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slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 1:01 AM

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mix up all the nodes

pearl prairie Jul 10, 2021, 1:01 AM

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I am already sad cause they shuffled div card locations

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But yeah other stuff/meta, change it

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 1:02 AM

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what would be awesome is if each character you make gets its own atlas and set of tree configurations

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but you cant look at it until you reach maps

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life isn't fair - league

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😄

pearl prairie Jul 10, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Interesting but could be too complicated

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If you make 20 chars per league

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vanity

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 1:04 AM

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motivation to learn the 1 hour 16 minutes to maps run that tytykiller was able to do

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god tier efficiency'

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even could be optimized

pearl prairie Jul 10, 2021, 1:06 AM

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And me with twink gear doing it in 4-5 hours PES_Cry

maiden coral Jul 10, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Sub 10 hours on no twink gear 😔

limpid current Jul 10, 2021, 7:06 AM

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essences will probably not be nerfed

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imo

storm crown Jul 10, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Unveil is more likely to be nerfed tbh. But i hope it wont

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 11:42 AM

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nah

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just buff it more

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now there are no recipes

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just unveils

pearl prairie Jul 10, 2021, 11:42 AM

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It's the only thing people want to slam

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 11:42 AM

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veiled eexalted orbs

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here we go

pearl prairie Jul 10, 2021, 11:42 AM

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May just nerf veiled orbs to not get like 3 veiled mods on one item

violet nymph Jul 10, 2021, 11:48 AM

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unveil meta is pain

maiden coral Jul 10, 2021, 12:20 PM

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~~increase the odds for T3 and T4 plants pls~~

maiden coral Jul 10, 2021, 2:23 PM

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all i had were the harvest nodes, and i didn't get anything meaningful tbh so I might just not think about harvest too much next league

storm crown Jul 10, 2021, 3:42 PM

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slender temple veiled eexalted orbs

that would be cool wouldnt lie, but probly gonna have to be more rare kinda like a conq exalt or maven orb... they could give it to catarina as a dropp tho

empty crystal Jul 10, 2021, 4:53 PM

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veiled exalted orbs, wow good idea. more possibilities for crafting would be welcome

devout osprey Jul 10, 2021, 7:58 PM

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like... aisling slam

next epoch Jul 10, 2021, 9:01 PM

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tbh this game already has way too many crafting mechanics

storm crown Jul 10, 2021, 9:13 PM

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this would just be extending one that already exists

empty crystal Jul 10, 2021, 10:53 PM

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felt like rest of betrayal became kinda useless and uninteresting

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so more choices from GGG could really help that

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or GGG should focus on bringing each crafting method closer to each other

peak terrace Jul 10, 2021, 10:56 PM

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they cant

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and its also not gonna work

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cause even if all are the same

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one is bound to be cheaper by cost/effort/availability wateer

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and thats what ppl gonna use

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also of u make many types of content give same/similar rewards

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what be the point of the diff content when the end result is same

storm crown Jul 10, 2021, 10:59 PM

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kinda wished metacrafting wasnt so expensive

empty crystal Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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well things may have been different if they didn't nerf harvest to the ground and "buff" Aisling

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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ez tiem travel back to harvest league

empty crystal Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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yeah

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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where splits were ez dupes for bases and the crafting was free

empty crystal Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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also harvest league kinda put essences back in ppls mind

slender temple Jul 10, 2021, 11:06 PM

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essense still ok

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with fractured items

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right?

empty crystal Jul 10, 2021, 11:06 PM

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yeah it is

empty crystal Jul 11, 2021, 2:55 AM

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that makes a lot of sense wisdom

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hillock qualities is probably great at league start in trade

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might be worth do it without catarina then

maiden coral Jul 11, 2021, 3:07 AM

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How are the 5 5 2 2 people in 3.14? Is it still worthwhile?
Vorici ITF, Tora Vagan?

empty crystal Jul 11, 2021, 3:10 AM

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still viable but since leaders don't have double rewards anymore (when not running mastermind) it's not as rewarding

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also there was a challenge to motivate ppl on doing mastermind

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Riker (Blight scarabs) is a nice replacement for Vagan, whoever comes first

maiden coral Jul 11, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Yeah i know of the mastermind related challenges, but 5522 feels faster to churn stuff out once the board is set

empty crystal Jul 11, 2021, 3:36 AM

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aisling t4 was up to 7ex though, but still 5522 is quite alright

maiden coral Jul 11, 2021, 3:39 AM

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Wait what
I only reached 4 to 3 ex prices

empty crystal Jul 11, 2021, 3:47 AM

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end of league it was 3ex again, probably higher while not many ppl had it

wet harbor Jul 11, 2021, 5:03 AM

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40% chance the skulls on sticks generate floating in space, also wonder what the significance of them is

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are those signboards using already known symbols?

sour mountain Jul 11, 2021, 9:07 AM

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Hillock quality is also good if you're leaning into a non chancable unique

slender temple Jul 11, 2021, 12:42 PM

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So the coloirs on the countdown are blue does that mean a blue league ?

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maiden coral Jul 11, 2021, 12:45 PM

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The banners had bluewhite symbols did they

shy spear Jul 11, 2021, 2:49 PM

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Hyped for next league, just got this leak of an item, made by Chris Wilson himself!

normal lance Jul 11, 2021, 3:01 PM

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amazing

opal relic Jul 11, 2021, 5:37 PM

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slender temple So the coloirs on the countdown are blue does that mean a blue league ?

That reminds me that usually blue is associated with water... ⛵

pale solar Jul 12, 2021, 12:08 AM

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pirate league??? xd

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 12:10 AM

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hope so

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i made a ton of wellerman wombos 😄

hasty perch Jul 12, 2021, 12:46 AM

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Pirate or not i just hope the mechanic isnt fight waves of mobs in a zone

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Twice in a row is plenty

empty crystal Jul 12, 2021, 1:03 AM

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if it's not in circles it's a buff

rough phoenix Jul 12, 2021, 1:40 AM

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hasty perch Pirate or not i just hope the mechanic isnt fight waves of mobs in a zone

looking at the teaser, atleast part of it looks like fighting mobs in a zone

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maybe they come in waves or when you want to cash in a reward

tawny pasture Jul 12, 2021, 1:41 AM

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i mean , poe is about fighting monster

empty crystal Jul 12, 2021, 1:50 AM

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many time it's "1 monster remaining" so I believe we are the monster

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 1:50 AM

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we are the monster in poe

empty crystal Jul 12, 2021, 1:50 AM

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slender temple we are the monster in poe

templarthumbsup

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 1:50 AM

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do i need to link the omiman video again

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 1:54 AM

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we are the monster in poe
veritania be like

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 1:56 AM

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zana also monster

sage thorn Jul 12, 2021, 3:15 AM

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I'd speculated this new league will focus on the Ezomytes, in terms of like the lore and all that.

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:18 AM

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sage thorn I'd speculated this new league will focus on the Ezomytes, in terms of like the ...

Is Einhar the only Ezomyte we know of

sage thorn Jul 12, 2021, 3:19 AM

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No; Grigor from Sarn town in Act 3 is also an Ezomyte.
Also the guy who writes the poems in Izaro's Labyrinth (and whose dead body you find in the room before the final fight) is an Ezomyte.

Also PoE2 Act 1 has Ezomytes in the Town area.

wooden zephyr Jul 12, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Are ezomytes like Nordic inspired

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I didn't even know Einhar was one lol

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:24 AM

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he has a nordic accent

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one of the new npcs that doesnt have a NZ/AUS accent

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oshabi is another

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:24 AM

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I checked on that but she calls herself from Azmeri?

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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maybe

wooden zephyr Jul 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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Interesting

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:25 AM

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i actually didnt read her lore or pay attention to her

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ive clicked on her once

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i think i had to for challenge completion

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she has 106 audio files 😄

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you can pickup the accent if you listen to a few

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sage thorn Jul 12, 2021, 3:27 AM

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maiden coral I checked on that but she calls herself from Azmeri?

Oshabi was part of the Azmeri group in Act 2. Gruest, Silk, Yeena.

Then Oshabi got kicked out after trying to sacrifice a kid for her Lifeforce thing, and Yeena took over the job of contacting the 'Spirit'.

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:27 AM

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yeah

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osh 16 she says shes azmeri

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:27 AM

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Oh wtf wow didn't know her relation to A2

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partner and I played PoE for the first time during harvest, but decided to play on standard for some reason 😆

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So all I know about her was intro blurb and fight in Ritual

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:29 AM

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its hard to say waht the real world acccent is from but its not a nz/aus accent.

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yeena has the same accent iirc

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id have to heck

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:29 AM

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stay true, to you

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:30 AM

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yep

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same accent

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also she talks about weylam neat

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holy shit yeena has 77 audio files?!?!

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btw the conq have like 55 audio file each

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and entire story told in there if oy listen to them

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veritania slowly descending into hate of all things that arent her

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Zana's dialogue for each tells a lot already which is nice

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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trialmaster has 637 audio files O_o

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Once again wishful thinking, but it'd be nice if more dialogue is given to the playable characters once poe2 rolls in

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He has a ton of congrats/fail lines iirc

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Heard he even gives a genuine congrats if you succeed after a super long streak of failure

sage thorn Jul 12, 2021, 3:33 AM

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But yeah, also I speculate this League will deal with Ezomytes because of the light-blue glow and the runes etched on the skulls.

Kinda reminding me of the light-blue runes in PoE2 Act 1, and that takes place in an Ezomyte-related area.

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:34 AM

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maybe hes talking abotu the lightbringer the eldritch beings are scared of?

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:35 AM

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slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:36 AM

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637 audio files tho is nutnty

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nutty

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i wonder if thats all diff languages too

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ah there is 3 variations of every single t hing he says

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this is my response to trialmaster after clapping his cheeks 23 times

sage thorn Jul 12, 2021, 3:40 AM

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slender temple maybe hes talking abotu the lightbringer the eldritch beings are scared of?

Lightkeeper*

Also I dunno if that audio file is talking about the Lightkeeper specifically. It'd be odd for Atlas-related stuff to kinda spill out outside the endgame.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3106179
There's some details about the specific entity here.

Path of Exile

Announcements - Ultimatum League: Creating the Trialmaster - Forum ...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:42 AM

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hmm

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:42 AM

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sage thorn But yeah, also I speculate this League will deal with Ezomytes because of the li...

I don't actually recall PoE2 Act 1, haven't watched stuff about it in some time
Apart from that wurm boss and the graveyard boss

It would be nice to remind us of the Ezomytes and flesh them out more before that arrives

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:42 AM

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atziri and aukana also hve the "oshabi/yeena" accent ;o

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maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:45 AM

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slender temple

how'd you get voicelines from her already

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 3:45 AM

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hmm?

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this is alal in the game files

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if you have steam version

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its been there forever

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since december

sage thorn Jul 12, 2021, 3:45 AM

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sage thorn Lightkeeper* Also I dunno if that audio file is talking about the Lightkeeper s...

Also, obligatory "But first, we need to talk about parallel universes" joke.

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Oh wait stupid I thought it was the leader in PoE2 A2, mb it was legion's maraketh

sharp iron Jul 12, 2021, 6:00 AM

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We're getting closer and closer to this new league now

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So aside from speculation, is there anyone you just want from an expansion that would be realistically possible for GGG to do?

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 6:09 AM

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i want a mix between heist and betrayal

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 6:09 AM

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~~auction house qol~~

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 6:09 AM

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do things in map mostly

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and a separate area entirely

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not one or the other

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why i dont want betrayal 2.0 is cause its complex and bothersome to pay attention

sharp iron Jul 12, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Yeah, I think Betrayal is as complex as I'd like a PoE league to be. I think everything else should be simpler then it.

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 6:22 AM

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imagine if we could take all the existing masters with us into maps and stuff

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one at a time of course unless there is a master mission there

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i think einhar is best choice

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since he buffs you

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alva is probably good option if we get her MF aura

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zana is garbage at combat theyh woudl need to give her a proper wand skill 😛

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Unique Map where you do all 5 master missions when

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I liked one suggestion where the 4 people represent different factions, and you work your way into the favor of what rewards/group you want

Like how Starcraft 2's Protoss Campaign gave you different units based on which factions you aligned with

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In terms of rewards, its interesting that there hasnt been more interesting Ring and Glove Enchants, we only have Blight and Lab (if im not mistaken),

one league might bring those into the game eventually

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 7:03 AM

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Jewel enchants when

maiden coral Jul 12, 2021, 7:06 AM

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A fairly wild one, but exalts for Uniques to give them one more statline (aside from synth and corrupt implicits)

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 7:07 AM

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i would like to be able to bring Zana as a 2nd to any other master

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thats all i wnat

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rather sextant/ scarab/prophecy + device master can go together

verbal wyvern Jul 12, 2021, 8:39 AM

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Rotate masters when ogeyes giv tane and cassia as masters for atlas missions

copper kernel Jul 12, 2021, 8:41 AM

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they dont compare to masters tho

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 9:18 AM

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the content they are tied to is so watever compared to the masters 🙂

sharp jewel Jul 12, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Less than 2 weeks to go and 0 hype, F

slender temple Jul 12, 2021, 9:46 AM

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3 days

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till the hype train blasts off

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or blasts us :p

pearl prairie Jul 12, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Teaser is not meant for hype, it announces the stream ASakashrug

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And that's where hype is

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 9:50 AM

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the very fact ur dum ass is here to check whats going on means there is some hype from ur side @sharp jewel

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u wouldnt show up here if u werent interested in the new league would you now

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omega big brain guys

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come in here to meme

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...

barren crescent Jul 12, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Mememorph and blight are much smaller in complexity than any of the master's contents

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 9:51 AM

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ye :S

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tehy are device material

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i guess u could only remove nico i guess and put him on device for a league

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would be a cheeky way to enable deep delvers without the need to map rotation

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and u could remove nico if 3.15 releases a main npc that is big

pearl prairie Jul 12, 2021, 9:53 AM

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You always use scarabs anyway

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For deep delve

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 9:53 AM

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ye sure tru

pearl prairie Jul 12, 2021, 9:53 AM

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No need for rotas

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 9:53 AM

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i guess :S

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then whats the need for nico master then ?

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niko*

pearl prairie Jul 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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To just get sulphite and be fast cause of that Atlas passive AW_Happy

peak terrace Jul 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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tru

pearl prairie Jul 12, 2021, 10:54 AM

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Too much hassle

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Yeah not only that

verbal wyvern Jul 12, 2021, 1:29 PM

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I’d love cassia as a master, blight is fun sad

floral cobalt Jul 12, 2021, 4:49 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNRjt4rCymM

YouTube

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Hans Zimmer - Hoist The Colours - Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worl...

"Hoist The Colours" - song and scene from the beginning of "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End"

Hoist the Colours, sometimes written as Hoist the Colors, was a sea shanty known by all pirates across the Seven Seas. The song was related to the action of hoisting of a pirate's flag, though it was mainly used as a call to arms for the member...

▶ Play video

velvet palm Jul 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Rotating masters could work, Oshabi is viable

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I'd say just rotate whole league mechanics + make them more consistent

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so like, only 5 or something can appear, but they appear more frequently

hasty perch Jul 12, 2021, 5:54 PM

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Yeah

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Each league put lile 1/3 of the current event types

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But put them to like 10-15% spawnrate

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Would make every league feel much more different

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Would also change the economy quite a bit and at the same time less having 40 fragments of 15 things

next epoch Jul 13, 2021, 12:14 AM

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It That Visits Your Hideout

rotund surge Jul 13, 2021, 6:26 AM

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what are your predictions, on what random under powered skill they will buff this league that still will end up under powered?

rose pasture Jul 13, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Town portal

prisma wedge Jul 13, 2021, 7:49 AM

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I think it's going to be reworks mostly

limpid current Jul 13, 2021, 7:50 AM

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bf/bb loses another 5-10% of damage

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8head

wary stratus Jul 13, 2021, 7:50 AM

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I kinda hope they buff traps honestly

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seems like such a shame how they're completely overshadowed by mines

prisma wedge Jul 13, 2021, 7:51 AM

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I've league started with ice trap and it seemed ok.

rotund surge Jul 13, 2021, 8:53 AM

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This now is the third league in a row where they hyped "skills" before the new league. Last two definitively fell flat in that regard.

copper kernel Jul 13, 2021, 8:55 AM

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Thats pretty much every league

velvet palm Jul 13, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Their only impactful changes to skills are nerfs

peak terrace Jul 13, 2021, 9:08 AM

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@rotund surge what do u mean

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the new low life mechnaics and blood skills are cool

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and used a lot

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especially the low life rework

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so they did sth correct prev league when it comes to skills 🙂 if u say they didnt u are delusional

rotund surge Jul 13, 2021, 9:10 AM

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Because it was accompanied by massive nerfs all around, AnD iF YOu dOn'T AgREe wITh mE You ARe DEluSionAL templarthumbsup

peak terrace Jul 13, 2021, 9:10 AM

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ahahhawhwhawh

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what did they massive nerf

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to make going low life okay

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or to make any of the blood skills okay

velvet palm Jul 13, 2021, 9:11 AM

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What's with the ggg suckling on the server recently

peak terrace Jul 13, 2021, 9:11 AM

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😄

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anyyyways

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keep hatin

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🤷‍♂️

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:16 AM

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do i need to link chrees wolcen vid again

bronze cave Jul 13, 2021, 9:17 AM

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I dont even mind falling for the same PR trap every time, i like getting hype and i will again this time

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:20 AM

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ill probably complain about one of the EGG or some conditional but ill play it

maiden coral Jul 13, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Meanwhile I'll hunt for which 4 I won't do and be on my way

barren crescent Jul 13, 2021, 9:43 AM

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I'd argue all of the new skills from patch saw success

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exang was a hit right off the bat, same for corrupting fever

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Reap took a while

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idk what ppl are doing with petrified blood, I suppose it works

peak terrace Jul 13, 2021, 9:49 AM

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ye

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it is good

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for every low life build

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i think everyone uses it basically

limpid current Jul 13, 2021, 10:12 AM

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all the new skills were well designed and worked well

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they need some more support on the skill tree imo

maiden coral Jul 13, 2021, 10:20 AM

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The pdot ones were very cluster reliant for growth right

barren crescent Jul 13, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Reap's dot is practically irrelevant compared to exsang

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and exsang hit the dot soft cap of 1-2M without clusters on budget gear

hasty perch Jul 13, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Glacial hammer getting numeric buffs until 8000% effectiveness

violet nymph Jul 13, 2021, 3:34 PM

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Yeah reap and exsang are definitely weak skills for dot

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Which is quite unfortunate given how cool they are visually

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Wish they'd put more ignite stuff on the tree and nerf the ignite clusters, same with the new pdot stuff

violet nymph Jul 13, 2021, 3:54 PM

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But but but that would make them accessible

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Farm A6 twilight strand until you have half a dozen clusters on league start day or bust

rotund surge Jul 13, 2021, 4:24 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/EQy8Tdf.png

Imgur

This is totally how GGG is gonna achieve the big metagame shift they announced

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I would play it

violet nymph Jul 13, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Oh man that would never fly after the rage over seeding in delve

valid isle Jul 13, 2021, 4:55 PM

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PoE Roguelite?

hexed rapids Jul 13, 2021, 5:59 PM

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valid isle PoE Roguelite?

I'd love that

steep dock Jul 13, 2021, 6:14 PM

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That would be interesting for a league i will admit

hasty perch Jul 13, 2021, 7:05 PM

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No tree

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Just a choice between 3 nodes every level

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witchHeist

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Keystone at level 25 50 75 100

tardy wolf Jul 13, 2021, 7:11 PM

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uh that would kill the game wack

sleek light Jul 13, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Could be nice for a PoE1 goodbye league, or event month

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 7:14 PM

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or a new ascendancy

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vaal fanatic

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somethign fun for the nutters that like leveling up

sleek light Jul 13, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Yeah

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Fir scion, the "Descendant"

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 7:16 PM

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YES haha

hasty perch Jul 13, 2021, 7:17 PM

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No choice pure random and you have to make the best of it templarLul

wraith plume Jul 13, 2021, 7:19 PM

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March of the legion nerf inc?

devout osprey Jul 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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why?

valid isle Jul 13, 2021, 7:20 PM

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id say major notable every 5, keystone every 25 (with an option to skip the keystone in place of XYZ)

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would totally be fun

hasty perch Jul 13, 2021, 8:07 PM

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As an endless ledge kind of race

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I'd be down for that kind of event

valid isle Jul 13, 2021, 8:32 PM

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time to let viper know lol

barren crescent Jul 13, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Krangled league

wraith plume Jul 13, 2021, 9:20 PM

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I remember endless ledge

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and 10 or 15x invasion boss league

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:21 PM

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what if this is the league where they test out socketed gems ;p

steep dock Jul 13, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Gems within gems

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:30 PM

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steep dock Gems within gems

its not a meme

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its coming

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they told us @ exilecon

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and showed us examples of how it works in their test poe

steep dock Jul 13, 2021, 9:31 PM

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orly?

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:32 PM

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yes

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sec

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https://www.pathofexile.com/poe2

Path of Exile

Path of Exile 2 - Path of Exile

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

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barren crescent Jul 13, 2021, 9:34 PM

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wat are you on about

steep dock Jul 13, 2021, 9:34 PM

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ahhh interesting

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:34 PM

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i am looking forward to this the most

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even more than the new story

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which im sure ill enjoy once then just speed run it as usual

barren crescent Jul 13, 2021, 9:34 PM

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Thats poe2's gem system

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not some test poe

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 9:37 PM

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they wont test it before?

barren crescent Jul 13, 2021, 9:38 PM

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How would I know

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I wouldn't call it a test if it come to public realms

verbal wyvern Jul 13, 2021, 9:54 PM

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hasty perch Keystone at level 25 50 75 100

i would play this

rough phoenix Jul 13, 2021, 10:49 PM

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just 2 more days of coping

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man the wait is killing me

slender temple Jul 13, 2021, 10:55 PM

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2 more days you mean 10 more days 😄

rough phoenix Jul 13, 2021, 11:22 PM

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yea its just an unfortunate time of the year

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absolutely nothing to do

glacial umbra Jul 13, 2021, 11:31 PM

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when is new league

rough phoenix Jul 13, 2021, 11:47 PM

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23rd

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28th console

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 12:01 AM

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slender temple what if this is the league where they test out socketed gems ;p

Or the "we want each weappn base type to feel different" thing

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 1:15 AM

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@maiden coral that could be neat. Like drastically diff speeds and damage or implicits ?

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Just watched the Poe2 Act 2 Gameplay Demo recently, it was how Spears would have benefits for weaving in and out of combat, Crossbows have different types of Bolts and shit
No idea how they'll do that for hammers vs maces vs staffs and what not but yeah

Iirc, Claws could be used for unarmed?

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 1:31 AM

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yeah like in other games

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 1:32 AM

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that would be nice, if swords and axes had very different feels

limpid current Jul 14, 2021, 2:08 AM

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everything about the new ways equipment, at least weapons, differ, makes me look forward to poe 2 more

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claws being usable for unarmed is some good shit too

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 2:11 AM

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wonder if they'll address self cast vs other types of casting (mines/brand/totem/slinger/etc) down the line, like how 2H, Dual Wield, 1H + Shield have different benefits

sharp iron Jul 14, 2021, 2:15 AM

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I think the 16th will be a character reveal (as there was clearly a small group of characters shown at the end of the teaser). Not sure what the reveal on the 17th will be.

devout osprey Jul 14, 2021, 2:15 AM

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dude stop

sharp iron Jul 14, 2021, 2:16 AM

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What?

devout osprey Jul 14, 2021, 2:16 AM

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its not characters. its npcs. they are not controllable but us

sharp iron Jul 14, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Do you know what "NPC" stands for?

devout osprey Jul 14, 2021, 2:16 AM

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nvm i somehow read your comment as playable character

sharp iron Jul 14, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Alright then

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No harm no foul

sour thorn Jul 14, 2021, 3:05 AM

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hottake: Power Up league.
every old league mechanik gets a new upgrade
Ritual gets ritual maps(what we saw in the trailer
Heist gets 3 new thieves and more BPs (we saw the npcs in the trailer.)
and every other league mechanik gets a buff/rework too

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 3:07 AM

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I do like that 3.13 and 3.14 breathed life into old stuff, if they'll continue that path with other systems or keep improving the same end game systems

alpine sierra Jul 14, 2021, 3:09 AM

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They need to remove leagues or put them in a cycle not add more.

steep dock Jul 14, 2021, 3:24 AM

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They're going to add new eyes obviously, at least two sets of them

next epoch Jul 14, 2021, 3:31 AM

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as you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes

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of course, that's what we all said during Metamorph League too

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 3:36 AM

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steep dock They're going to add new eyes obviously, at least two sets of them

There's 4 npcs, that's 4 sets of eyes chrisThinking

next epoch Jul 14, 2021, 3:41 AM

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icy hot take: ggg shakes up the metagame by replacing item drops with item pulls

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 3:45 AM

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...gatcha?

languid path Jul 14, 2021, 3:45 AM

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if you die in softcore one of your equipped item is destroyed

kindred schooner Jul 14, 2021, 3:46 AM

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the promised meta shakeup
patch notes:

Cast On Critical Support now has a fixed internal cooldown of 0.5 seconds
Cyclone functions the same but no longer has the "channeling" tag
Characters are limited to up to one of each type of golem
end of patch notes

next epoch Jul 14, 2021, 3:46 AM

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maiden coral ...gatcha?

that's the joke, yes

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 3:47 AM

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-We've flipped ascendancies to the opposite end of the passive tree

next epoch Jul 14, 2021, 3:47 AM

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delve goes sideways

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Necromancer Duelist

wooden zephyr Jul 14, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Raider Templar hell yes

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Insane

kindred schooner Jul 14, 2021, 3:48 AM

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languid path if you die in softcore one of your equipped item is destroyed

First 3 hours of league this mechanic actually duplicates your equipped item instead of deleting it so tryhards get their usual early league currency buff

wooden zephyr Jul 14, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Honestly that would be great

kindred schooner Jul 14, 2021, 3:50 AM

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wooden zephyr Raider Templar hell yes

This would be nuts both ways. The QoL from Raider on that side of the tree + Inquis Regen with the dodge and crit nodes of that side

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100% crit flaskless with stupid regen, ele avoid, acro, phase acro, wind dancer. LMAO

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Finally, templar meta

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Gladiator Witch, pdot spellslinger?

kindred schooner Jul 14, 2021, 3:52 AM

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would actually make reap with occultist work

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i love that PoE allows for such variety, but I hate when the obvious thematic choice just doesn't work. When I saw reap I was fanboying at the idea of occultist reap but then realized there's no way to convert phys dot to chaos dot and occultist doesn't scale bleed/phys dot at all

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Just like I was pissed that Battlemage doesn't actually enable a spellsword playstyle

wooden zephyr Jul 14, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I have a hard time finding cool flavorful builds in this game

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I guess that's what I have last epoch for

kindred schooner Jul 14, 2021, 4:01 AM

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yea the game development progressed down the path of loot and not combat. The current meta revolves around minimizing the time you spend actively attacking (unless cyclone) because you need to stand still to attack and standing still is death. It's all about passive dps. Minions, dot, totems/mines/traps

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hope the meta change is around combat itself, not simply replacing skillgem x with skillgem y as the meta

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triggered green spell vomit is no different than triggered blue spell vomit. That's not a meta shakeup to me.

limpid current Jul 14, 2021, 4:03 AM

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they'll eventually have to come around to rebalancing damage vs defense

kindred schooner Jul 14, 2021, 4:05 AM

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not just that but also balancing playstyle. The traditional rpg combat tropes are that melee do the most damage at the drawback of taking more damage where ranged do less damage but are more mobile and safe. In poe, everything does all of the damage so there's literally no drawback in playing a ranged concept (attack, spell, or minion) vs melee. melee is all downside

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 7:59 AM

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all the discussions about needing to re-balance gameplay, always boil down to slowing the game down, because then a single ability can have more impact. They said they want to slow down poe2, but chris said in the spoilers last league that players will always find a way to speed up anyway.

sour thorn Jul 14, 2021, 7:59 AM

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dont forget

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poe endgame = poe2 endgame

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so in the end both gamemodes need the same "speed"

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:00 AM

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yes, but that does not mean "current poe endgame = poe2 endgame"

sour thorn Jul 14, 2021, 8:01 AM

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but it does mean if they slow down poe 2 they will also slow down poe1

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:02 AM

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I mean poe2 will "eat" poe1, if poe2 comes out, the only thing left from poe1 as standalone will be the campaign. They also said they wanted to reduce loot and find a solution for flasks in poe2, but it will be seen how much of that is going to be true when poe2 comes out.

sour thorn Jul 14, 2021, 8:03 AM

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nah i doubt that

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liek when i said the engame is the same i meant that

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PoE1 characters can't play through the PoE2 campaign or vice versa

once your character reaches endgame the content will be shared

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it will be more like 2 different playstyles

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:07 AM

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As I understand it, you creat a new char and then you can choose what campaign you want to play poe or poe2 and you can't switch between these campaigns once you have chosen. But once poe2 is released and updates the mechanics of the entire game (what ever these updates will be) you will also play the original poe campaign with these mechanical updates.

sour thorn Jul 14, 2021, 8:07 AM

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ohhh ok

crude steppe Jul 14, 2021, 8:08 AM

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Basically a legacy campaign option for a new game

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 8:10 AM

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Entire game slowing down would mean a ton of revamping of old league content, good luck to them

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:11 AM

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They have shown that they could do it when the reworked Hillock. Since now you only get hit where he swings his sword and you can dodge the swing. They only did this updates for the early campaign bosses, but mechanically thats a modern take on rpg combat.

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But I also don't think they will do it, because it would change how poe plays in a massive way. Changing the identity of poe is a risk, why take the risk. However I'm certain they could rework combat if they wanted to do it, that they have the capacity and they also know how they could achieve it.

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Tbh they kinda have to if they want to make poe2 slow
having a large speed boost because you're now in endgame would be strange

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:26 AM

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In the Q&A for poe2 in ritual, they said they want to find a solution for the Flask-system, and then they show an graphic update for the Flaskbar in the poe2 ultimatum trailer and didn't mentioned anything about Flaks changes, even thought the entire Chat spammed about it.
That is why I keep my expectations low, that we really are going to see massive changes.

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 8:30 AM

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it was just a graphic update, could be that they're still working on the update's inner workings, or don't want to disclose it yet

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But fair point, no point in keeping hopes up

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But on regards to speed
It would be so jarring if endgame continues with the current speed

poe2 gameplay video showed you weaving in and out of combat with your spear or playing smart with what bolt type to use

and then endgame you go in and you just... one shot packs? what was the point of the in and out combat throughout the acts then

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:35 AM

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Its just a trailer, played to make it look cool and like it has a modern rpg play style.
If the poe2 campaign is released and people had some time to optimise it, there is a high chance you will be as fast clearing it as you are in the current campaign.

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 8:42 AM

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They did say that it should roughly take the same time as poe1 i think, but who knows if its based on who's perspective
Fast clearing the acts is fine if its via skipping quests/packs smartly, but if levelling builds get to the point they can clear packs without care it kinda makes the slowing down and combat revamp moot if we'll be back to fast map clears of old

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 8:45 AM

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If I'm remembering correctly, they said controversial stuff about the length. First they said, the campaign in it itself would be shorter and then in the ultimatum q&a chris said the player would need around the same time to finish the campaign.

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 8:53 AM

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Unfortunately not much we can do but wait for all the questions to be answered
Is fun speculating though

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 8:53 AM

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rotund surge If I'm remembering correctly, they said controversial stuff about the length. Fi...

That's strange huh

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:17 AM

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maiden coral But on regards to speed It would be so jarring if endgame continues with the cur...

if they don't slow down endgame then PoE2 will be boring bloat just like PoE1 endgame

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I hope this doesn't happen

copper kernel Jul 14, 2021, 9:18 AM

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but the fast gameplay is whats enjoyable about poe

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:22 AM

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Most of PoE's problems come from the fact that PoE is too fast in my opinion.

Seemingly random oneshots /shotguns
Visual clutter because too many mobs and effects
Gameplay is braindead because you oneshot packs
5 FPS because too much going on too fast.
...
The gameplay you see in PoE trailers is always pretty slow and controlled and looks really fun. And then when you play the game it's something else entirely

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I personally always enjoy myself up to yellow maps, and then things get messy, my FPS starts to drop, etc. and then the game just gets a bit boring for me.

ionic summit Jul 14, 2021, 9:24 AM

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That's the paradox

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:24 AM

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honestly

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when poe2 comes

ionic summit Jul 14, 2021, 9:25 AM

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He game ended being something it was never designed to be through scope creep

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:25 AM

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and we are forced to play Wolcen-Like

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where u use multiple spells in a rotation to clear the packs

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there would be a fukin shitstorm towards ggg for ruining the zoomies gameplay

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and easyness of poe

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:25 AM

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only on reddit

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most of the playerbase won't care

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:25 AM

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am lowkey willing to even bet money on that ...

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o trust me they would

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if i ever quit poe

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it would be cause that

ionic summit Jul 14, 2021, 9:26 AM

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That's why I think they're changing the game extremely gradually

copper kernel Jul 14, 2021, 9:26 AM

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zoomy gameplay is the reason why most people play

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:26 AM

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i do not want to rotation clear packs ... i like my one button builds 🙂

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if i wanted fukin rotations id have sticked to mmos

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or actually played wolcen or so

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:27 AM

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you will not have an actual MMO rotation lol

copper kernel Jul 14, 2021, 9:27 AM

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shit like ed/c is barely tolerable because its strong as shit

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:27 AM

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poe gameplay is so smooth when u set everything up its so comfy and enjoyable

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u dash and rmb

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dash

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rmb

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so fkin enjoyable

ionic summit Jul 14, 2021, 9:27 AM

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Multiple button builds would be so much more fun without the flask rotation

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:28 AM

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Imagine playing Slam build in current PoE you already have 3 warcries, 1 slam, 1 movement skill, 1 guard skill, maybe frenzy or whatever the hell else. It won't be very different from that, I can't imagine

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:28 AM

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yes

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but its an obvious choice u made to play that right

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if they make it

copper kernel Jul 14, 2021, 9:28 AM

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its also strong as fuck

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thats why its tolerated

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:28 AM

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lol

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:29 AM

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group skill > debuff skill > damage attack > damage attack > dash

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that is already too much for me

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also the slam rotations you do between packs or right after attacking

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:29 AM

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I am sure you will still be able to Dash -> RMB -> Dash -> RMB. The cool thing about PoE2's skill system is that you can for example have 1 clear skill and 1 single target skill, that's how I understood it. idk though

peak terrace Jul 14, 2021, 9:29 AM

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it is not an on pack rotation

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there is a clear distinction between preparing for attack

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and standing 2-3 sec facing the mobs unleashing ur skills

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i hope that never becomes THE way to play

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 9:34 AM

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I could see that happen for rare or boss monsters

rotund surge Jul 14, 2021, 9:49 AM

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ionic summit Multiple button builds would be so much more fun without the flask rotation

Yes. This. I think I would enjoy a poe build that has around 4 Ability's I have to use (but not spam), similar to a moba. But every build already starts with the 5 Button flask piano.

alpine sierra Jul 14, 2021, 10:18 AM

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Archmage?

final plume Jul 14, 2021, 11:49 AM

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I just want the game to be less out of control

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get rid of all the power creep and non-existent balancing

alpine sierra Jul 14, 2021, 11:51 AM

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I just want the actual name of the league to be unreleased

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 12:02 PM

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unreleased

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so they
redact it further?

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 12:10 PM

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31 hours 39 minutes

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till we get league name perhaps

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 12:11 PM

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what do you mean perhaps

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 12:13 PM

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maybe 45 minutes of chrreees wolcen fishing

pearl prairie Jul 14, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Whole content revealed but not league name templarLul

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 12:13 PM

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and then 3more seconds of teaser at the end

pearl prairie Jul 14, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Oh fishing

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Yeah pls

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templarthumbsup

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 12:14 PM

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im thinking its the opposite though

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will be 3 days

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of big infos

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 12:15 PM

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if poe's tweets are anything to go by
we won't get the league name until ThisIsBadger figures out what he said

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 12:18 PM

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they really boosting his views.

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wahts weird is

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his discord isnt exploding with discussion

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just a few lines

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 12:19 PM

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I'm trying to get it going templarSad

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 12:20 PM

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im just gonna wait for the announcement

hasty perch Jul 14, 2021, 4:37 PM

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League name revealed on end of league day

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You play the whole league as ??? League

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And the ones who guess it right win a weta pet

steep dock Jul 14, 2021, 4:38 PM

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lol

hasty perch Jul 14, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Toucan.

empty crystal Jul 14, 2021, 5:29 PM

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hasty perch Toucan.

more toucan(s) would change the meta a lot!

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one cannot but toucan

valid isle Jul 14, 2021, 6:17 PM

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hasty perch You play the whole league as ??? League

maybe we are gonna get the RNG league.

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after all... this is PoE

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 11:18 PM

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No tw drops

next epoch Jul 14, 2021, 11:44 PM

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a dredmor-flavoured league would be amazing

junior belfry Jul 14, 2021, 11:47 PM

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So obviously going to be named Suffering

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 11:51 PM

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There are some other big reveals contained within the livestream that you are likely not expecting.
poe2 beta sign up and info? :p

foggy zinc Jul 14, 2021, 11:55 PM

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I'd wager PoE mobile or royale

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 11:55 PM

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slender temple ```There are some other big reveals contained within the livestream that you are...

Good catch didnt see this

foggy zinc Jul 14, 2021, 11:55 PM

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they hinted toward royale before ultimatum start

slender temple Jul 14, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Trevor mobile fall guy will be in stream then ?

junior belfry Jul 14, 2021, 11:57 PM

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I really want PoE mobile. I just can’t find anything mobile that holds my attention on my iPad.

foggy zinc Jul 14, 2021, 11:58 PM

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problem with PoE mobile is that they don't really know what they want the core gameplay loop to be

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it can't just be PoE ported to mobile, too much input required

maiden coral Jul 14, 2021, 11:59 PM

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Your suffering soon ends
How far will violence take you?

One liners on their twitter, cant see how the two intersect

foggy zinc Jul 14, 2021, 11:59 PM

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they heavily hinted towards suffering being the name of the league, wonder if it's a jebait

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Interpreting the violence line as there being other methods aside from violence, like negotiation or something

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 12:00 AM

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I don’t think it’s jebait

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Suffering soon ends
QoL league :templarLul: :templarLul:

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 12:00 AM

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What is royale?

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Spellbreak

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Its dying tho 😔

barren crescent Jul 15, 2021, 12:01 AM

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maiden coral > Suffering soon ends QoL league :templarLul: :templarLul:

nerf notes come out, no more sufferring from better or worse skills

foggy zinc Jul 15, 2021, 12:01 AM

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a couple of years ago, they did PoE royal as an april fool's for some time

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Oh you mean Poe battle royale?

foggy zinc Jul 15, 2021, 12:01 AM

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and it was exactly that, you'd find gear and gems

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 12:01 AM

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That sounds like a terrible idea lol

next epoch Jul 15, 2021, 12:01 AM

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balance was… questionable but it was fun for a little while

foggy zinc Jul 15, 2021, 12:02 AM

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it was pretty functional for something thrown together last minute, but yeah it wasn't balanced at all

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ranger op

next epoch Jul 15, 2021, 12:02 AM

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bows were hilariously overpowered

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Give Spellbreak a check @indigo wolf

For a spellbased game, the playerbase wanted it very mobility based for some reason

Its not so hot rn, but its nice, havent played in half a year or something

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Yea
Not like there are queues anymkre

hoary snow Jul 15, 2021, 12:25 AM

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“Your suffering soon ends” better mean “we’re adding quality of life so your wrists don’t hurt anymore”

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 12:25 AM

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@hoary snow hahahhahahhahahahahaha

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If your right

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I'll buy both supp packs even if I hate th

foggy zinc Jul 15, 2021, 12:26 AM

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don't really believe we'll see any improvements to that

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Sadly

foggy zinc Jul 15, 2021, 12:27 AM

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but ggg can prove me wrong, hate using flasks

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Imagine if flasks are gone

hoary snow Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Imagine if flasks could be automated.

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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And now you can only use one skill

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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I like flasks aPES_PeepoSadRain

hoary snow Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Imagine if currency could be automatically picked up

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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They are too powerful to remove them

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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You have to feel the weight of currency

hoary snow Jul 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Less than 25% hp? Pop health instantly. Thanks.

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No need to piano your keyboard

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 12:29 AM

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"weve deleted pathfinder"

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 12:29 AM

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Imagine a gambit system like ff12

rocky nebula Jul 15, 2021, 2:00 AM

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When they say "change the meta-game" I hope it means less trash on the ground and deletion of ID scrolls

limpid current Jul 15, 2021, 2:18 AM

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well, loot doesn't have anything to do with the actual metagame

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marauderthinking

wet harbor Jul 15, 2021, 2:49 AM

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85% chance This guy https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1415443050281664512 owns this ring https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Tecrod's_Gaze

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

Fear not, exile. Your suffering soon ends.

☠️Watch our announcement livestream☠️

↠ When: 1pm July 15 PDT
↠ Where: https://t.co/FtwTXil7Oc
↠ What you need to know: https://t.co/NWE4AZLcmR

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Tecrod's Gaze - Official Path of Exile Wiki

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 2:50 AM

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That's a jewel, not a ring

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Also, I think it'd be odd to have a character from this league own an Abyss item when Abyss is a different league

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 2:51 AM

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also

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leagues don't overlap

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they all start at the "same" place storywise

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i.e. leagues not sequel to other leagues

wet harbor Jul 15, 2021, 2:52 AM

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ring jewel, words

light adder Jul 15, 2021, 2:52 AM

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You could bend that rule a bit, harvest got new harbinger stuff

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Harbinger items or harbinger lore?

light adder Jul 15, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Both, since the new items got new lore

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 2:53 AM

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Alright then. Still feels different to me then introducing a new character though.

wet harbor Jul 15, 2021, 2:53 AM

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we have 3 liches and 4 lich jewels, this dude looks pretty lichey; ergo, that's Tecrod.

light adder Jul 15, 2021, 2:53 AM

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(and new parts of the harbi alphabet if i remember right)

wet harbor Jul 15, 2021, 2:54 AM

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sharp iron Also, I think it'd be odd to have a character from this league own an Abyss item...

a delve only boss owns an abyss item btw

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Ah, that's true

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Fair point, actually.

wet harbor Jul 15, 2021, 2:56 AM

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lich is more of a plot device than a mechanic in this case

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 3:29 AM

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would be funny if they launch poemobile and its some fully integrated shit with current league

peak terrace Jul 15, 2021, 4:42 AM

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new boss fukin pog

limpid current Jul 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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slender temple would be funny if they launch poemobile and its some fully integrated shit with ...

they said poe mobile would be a separate entity

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Last minute prediction what GGG is going to absolutely going to be buttering up this league?

velvet palm Jul 15, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Buttering up implies improve, so nothing

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Texture streaming is still going to be shit

velvet palm Jul 15, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Gonna be even more shit*

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Yup

velvet palm Jul 15, 2021, 7:07 AM

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They literally make it worse every league

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Poe2 texture streaming will be so good the game will be literally unplayable

cobalt falcon Jul 15, 2021, 7:11 AM

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Ikr, just preload everything

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Hopefully they don't fuck up launch

velvet palm Jul 15, 2021, 7:33 AM

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It's gonna be bad

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Chris already said a bunch of No Man's Sky shit about poe2

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 7:35 AM

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we just need a video of riding on the back of a bunch of undead strapped together in the form of a dragon

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Hopefully d4 is good enough to shake things up and last epoch releases.

past obsidian Jul 15, 2021, 8:01 AM

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slender temple we just need a video of riding on the back of a bunch of undead strapped togethe...

https://breadmasterlee.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/compound02.jpg?w=2500&h= like this?

slender temple Jul 15, 2021, 8:03 AM

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past obsidian https://breadmasterlee.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/compound02.jpg?w=2500&h= like...

lovely

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now just need a marauder riding on the back holding a lance

past obsidian Jul 15, 2021, 8:03 AM

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Nice

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:30 AM

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alpine sierra Hopefully d4 is good enough to shake things up and last epoch releases.

I know it is an unpopular opinion, but I think D4 is looking good.

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:07 AM

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So long as blizz dont work their magic on the game and make it a hot mess im fine with d4

peak terrace Jul 15, 2021, 9:08 AM

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would still be worse than poe

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by far

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 9:16 AM

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It would of course have less content, but why would it be worse besides that?

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:17 AM

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If d3 is anything to go by

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I doubt they'll be able to pump out new content every 3-6 months

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From things like 3.14 to proper expansions

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 9:19 AM

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Honestly don't know why people hate on the end version of d3 so much. Yes the original release was shit. Yes the graphic style was a strange choice. But the combat was good. D3 was designed as casual arpg and I think it was a good game if you played it like that.

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:19 AM

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D3 finally got something new added to it for it's new season, but it's been maybe 2 years since proper content was added

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99% of the time nothing changes in d3

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Lots of people play it for a day or two and then quit until next season

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 9:22 AM

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Yeah, it has little content, but the content it has is good. Like I already said, besides the lack of content, I don't see why D4 has to be bad.

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 9:22 AM

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Witch doctor is fun to play

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lot better than summoners in Poe imo

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:23 AM

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It's a bit early to make a decision on d4 being good or not, for sure

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Last epoch gives you a fucking dinosaur if you're a summoner

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:23 AM

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I'm wondering if they'll even be able to keep it alive with how they run their games

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Poe doesn't have dinosaurs

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 9:24 AM

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The combat is better in d3 then in poe, in my opinion, while zoom zoom is "fun" it is not as fun as combat in an arpg can be.

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Imo they need to take ideas from ggg

alpine sierra Jul 15, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Last epoch has way better combat than poe

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 9:24 AM

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The combat in d3 feels good ye

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Combat and rifts won't carry d3 though

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 9:46 AM

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hard disagree about last epoch having better combat than PoE, the unity engine or whatever they're using feels wildly inappropriate for an ARPG and the skill design is hilariously unpolished, it's a good game because the devs are ambitious and willing to try new and weird approaches to the genre, not because it's some technical marvel

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like full stop, I think Wolcen of all games has better combat than Last Epoch, even though that feels mean to say, because I like Last Epoch a hell of a lot more than Wolcen, and it's obvious the LE devs care a lot more about actually making a good ARPG

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I'd actually go so far as to say combat is the single worst aspect of last epoch, it feels like your character is in a permanent state of t-posing, floating around mashing buttons that spawn death sparkles, while enemies spontaneously combust at your approach

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the only builds I've played in last epoch where I managed to get around that nasty "floating" feel to combat were summoners (where it doesn't really matter, it's not your character hitting things) and channelled skills (where floatiness is expected and sometimes even desirable, not weird and offputting)

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PoE only (relatively) recently finished implementing the last piece of the puzzle necessary to fix that, when they made the actual animations for attacks match the hitbox 1:1 -- I forget when exactly they did it, but that change is the entire reason you can dodge hillocks attacks by circling around him in one direction, but not the other, and small details like that are huge for combat to not feel bad

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the main thing PoE is lacking relative to D3 is seamlessness, I'm not really sure how GGG could fix that though, as the problem seems mostly caused by a difference of design philosophies, D3 makes practically everything it can instant cast with a short cooldown (and in many cases zero cooldown), while GGG does the exact opposite (example: if you think you're getting multiple charges on frostblink you better keep dreaming kid, somebody might use that for damage and we can't risk actually making it viable)

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 10:34 AM

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slam skills with warcries are actually the perfect example of that, if something like earthshatter champion was a build in Diablo 3, all of the warcries would be instant cast, and the devs would find some other way to balance it relative to other builds (probably with a 1000% damage modifier somewhere, let's be honest) instead of balancing via negative-QoL

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:00 PM

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the sparkling purple skill looked nice on the phone

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like pyroclast mines

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2 sparkling purplies

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1st one kinda like homing blazing salvo

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2nd one like infernal blow

final plume Jul 15, 2021, 12:19 PM

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yeah I think Last Epoch combat is dogshit

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but all the systems are just great

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and let's be real PoE combat sucks

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running in a circle and hitting RMB every once in a while is not exactly great combat

sweet osprey Jul 15, 2021, 12:22 PM

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So best guess for what Raiz says ppl will get hella mad over tonight?

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My money is on Harvest getting removed entirely

still saddle Jul 15, 2021, 12:24 PM

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i'm willing to bet that it's going to be something extremely arbitrary

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like no longer giving scrolls for coins

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except on a much larger scale

sweet osprey Jul 15, 2021, 12:30 PM

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They way he said it makes me think it relates to a hot button topic on reddit

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:44 PM

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sweet osprey My money is on Harvest getting removed entirely

I find this funny; because Harvest was removed entirely in Heist Leauge and people weren't rioting over that

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 12:45 PM

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harvest in it's initial implementation sucked ass though

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hard to get mad over losing something a lot of players hated

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it wasn't actually enjoyable to use until the rework in ritual league

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:45 PM

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But Reddit is basically a anti-GGG circlejerk cesspool atm. I literally found someone circlejerking about the '40 gems buffed' thing that didn't even know what patch that was [He said it was Ultimatum...]

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Well yeah they didn't buff 40 gems in Ultimatum. Because they said that about Ritual

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Really; seeing Witch has been by far the most popular character for multiple years now; I'm forseeing nerfs targeting Witch; her region of the passive trees, her ascendancies...

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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That 40 skills buffs was a total joke tho

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It was like 10 at the end

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templarLul

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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It was still true. 40 gems were buffed. Some quite significantly

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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No, it's not true

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Just you can buff Heavy Strike to the moon it's still heavy strike

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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It wasn't 40 skills

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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the 40 skills being buffed literally wasn't even supposed to be hyped, chris just saw the change and was like "why isn't this being hyped? everybody look!!" meanwhile the devs actually responsible for the changes were like ".. chris, please, stop"

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Buffs

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Nah; I went and counted. 40 gems [not skills; 38 skills and 2 supports] were buffed

sweet osprey Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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@fast crest yeah, but it only turned into a reddit circlejerk after they brought it back and then nerfed it. Removing it entirely now would certainly fit the bill of what he's describing templarHarvest

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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fast crest Nah; I went and counted. 40 gems [not skills; 38 skills and 2 supports] were buf...

It was mostly nerfs

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And quality changes

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Do I need to list them?

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Like nothing meaningful

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Chris overhyped it

sweet osprey Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM

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"Nothing was changed, they over promised" is a meme tbh

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:50 PM

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I mean; the tweet was literally 'we have buffed over 40 gems'. Not 'we have made 40 gems OP'

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community expectation =/= not what GGG was saying

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in a strict sense; 40 gems were buffed.

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 12:50 PM

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chris is an unreliable source when it comes to patch note hype because he's not really involved in the process anymore and hasn't been for ages

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Chris said it on stream, tweet doesn't matter much

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Just like 'Bow Leauge'; it's another example of GGG says something; community hypes; community dosen't get what it blew out of expectation

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GGG never said they were buffing Bows; only updateing them

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:51 PM

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What was the league with those 40 buffs

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Ritual?

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:51 PM

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community assumes bows will be OP after slams/Archmage ect. And Ritual

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I mean some of the buffs are minor [EG: 10% more conversion on a gem] but are still buffs. Some are pretty big tho; like Frost Bomb got higher base; +100% damage effect and +7 radius

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:52 PM

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chris overhyped it by saying that 40 gems have been reworked in the trailer

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:52 PM

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in a strict sense; 40 gems were buffs like GGG said

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I'm talking about literals here

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:53 PM

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yeah he wouldnt have said so if it wasnt 40

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:53 PM

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And the community hyping things beyond what they're told

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:53 PM

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community wants bad skills to be good nothing wrong with that

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:53 PM

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But as I said; it dosen't matter how much you buff Heavy Strike; it's heavy strike still. No-one's gonna play it

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when they can Cyclone

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or Bladestorm

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ect

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:54 PM

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we need a non-armor way to get reverse knockback

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then heavystrike will be fun

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:54 PM

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It's not about numbers it's about ease of use, people will play what's smoothest to use

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Yeah if we talk about buffs like +0.4 to wo duration, I wouldn't even call it a buff

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templarLul

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:55 PM

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I mean it is a buff; it's +33%

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:55 PM

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after nerfing it alot and then buffing it a little i agree

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:55 PM

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templarLul

rocky nebula Jul 15, 2021, 12:55 PM

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I never understood bladestorm, like how does someone enjoy it?

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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saying it's 'not a buff' is just factually false

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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they nerf static strike then buff it next league can u say its a buff

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Out of those 10 maybe are actually meaningful

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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bending the truth to fit a narritive

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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The rest is garbage

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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buffs are buffs; meaningful or not

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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Yeah ok

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It's just funny

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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just like nerfs are nerfs; meaningful or not

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:56 PM

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How trash they are

sweet osprey Jul 15, 2021, 12:57 PM

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"I don't play it/it's not meta" has never rly been a good basis to dismiss a numeric buff, tbh

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:57 PM

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it felt like they did those random number shifts just to reach big number

pearl prairie Jul 15, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Just for rounding purposes

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 12:58 PM

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i hope the phys dot gets built upon

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 12:58 PM

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Just be careful not to tell GGG that with specifically PHY DoT that Ascendant can out-More Damage Berzerker

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[She can get 45% with Zerker+Glad; with only 5% increased taken as opposed to 10%]

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:00 PM

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1.25 * 1.15 = 1.4375% (edit: also 25 + 15 is 40, how did you get 45 lol), you don't add the numbers together, and I kinda doubt GGG cares honestly

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1 ascendancy node vs basically your entire ascendancy

fast crest Jul 15, 2021, 1:00 PM

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It's still an offensive thing that Ascendant is actually best at.

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Not something common

gray zealot Jul 15, 2021, 1:05 PM

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ascendant is probably supposed to be the phys dot archetype anyways

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Just saw the Raiz clip 👀 am worried on how true his statement holds

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:17 PM

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what raiz clip?

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 1:17 PM

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||https://clips.twitch.tv/SquareIntelligentPlumageDerp-3ahZvFpX2yjutxyN||

Twitch

Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers.

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:17 PM

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not there anymore

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what was it?

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Try again, I butchered it with < > ||

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:19 PM

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oh he leaks the league?

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I might not watch it then lol

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 1:21 PM

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It's no leak

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Well, unless you think how he expects the playerbase to react is a leak

peak terrace Jul 15, 2021, 1:23 PM

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they are killing cyclone

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arent they

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:24 PM

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ok I will watch then 🙂

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ohhhh uh oh

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well at least it sounds like its actually a big shakeup

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big shakeups can make people mad but they can make things fun again as well

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Time will tell how long we'll adjust to it yeah

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:27 PM

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a lot of people have their builds they want to play every league and when they have to try something new they get mad

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I want to try something new, I play different builds every league so I am open to a big shakeup

sage thorn Jul 15, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Inb4 the mystery character in that latest league tease picture is a char who was cut from Fall of Oriath.
In this case, the Corpse Queen.

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:36 PM

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God I hope they finally make the heist stash an actual stash tab!

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I will gladly pay a couple bucks for it

sage thorn Jul 15, 2021, 1:39 PM

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Not a fan of the Heist Locker hideout item?

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:45 PM

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the lack of auto-sorting to the heist locker is both irritating and confusing

violet nymph Jul 15, 2021, 1:45 PM

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No Twitch drops?

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:45 PM

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wary stratus the lack of auto-sorting to the heist locker is both irritating and confusing

nope.....would rather have it in my main stash

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I want to ctrl click into it just like everything else

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and use affinities

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Unfortunately none

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:46 PM

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when the league ends and stashes get merged, all your heist locker stuff gets tossed into your main stash as remove-only tabs, so it's clearly not that far removed from being an actual stash tab as-is, the lack of ctrl-click / affinities is just dumb

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:50 PM

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My guess would be they have it all ready to go but are just waiting for the heat from the other league tabs to die down

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which everybody seems to have forgotten about, so I am hoping this league

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:51 PM

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there's no reason for a paid heist stash tab, because all of the functionality you could want from it should just be how it works by default

wraith mantle Jul 15, 2021, 1:52 PM

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tbh if they nuke cyclone it'll probably not be directly that but an interaction to CoC triggers

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:53 PM

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wary stratus there's no reason for a paid heist stash tab, because all of the functionality y...

You mean you think it should just be a free tab?

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:53 PM

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I would not be surprised if they nerfed the hit rate on cyclone by like 50%-75% and doubled the hit damage, just to make it less appealing for CoC

wraith mantle Jul 15, 2021, 1:53 PM

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as a melee skill it's still far and away the best but that's more because it takes zero investment to get going compared to +2 strike gloves or tribal fury+however many travel points said strike skill has to go out of its way

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:53 PM

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@junior belfry I think the existing heist locker should be compatible with tab affinities

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:54 PM

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wary stratus <@!350362533435146243> I think the existing heist locker should be compatible wi...

For that to happen they would need to move it into the main stash

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:54 PM

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no they wouldn't, you just think it would because you can't imagine how it would work otherwise

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:55 PM

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wary stratus no they wouldn't, you just think it would because you can't imagine how it would...

how are you thinking? you ctrl click into your main stash and it just goes into the heist stash?

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 1:55 PM

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ctrl+click heist items while looking at your regular stash, have heist affinity set to your heist locker, poof, items go to the heist locker, like magic

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 1:56 PM

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wary stratus ctrl+click heist items while looking at your regular stash, have heist affinity ...

yeah that is possible, personally I would still rather have it in my main stash, but that is a personal preference

rose pasture Jul 15, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Misfits League

river wing Jul 15, 2021, 3:07 PM

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My terrible prediction: GGG adds mercinaries to the game and those are the 3 people at the end of the teaser

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:12 PM

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equipping the heist chars is enough 🙈

devout osprey Jul 15, 2021, 3:15 PM

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make heist char have 1 equipment slot instead of 4 🙂

hexed rapids Jul 15, 2021, 3:16 PM

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the system is complex enough on its own. There was never a need for us to have to gear up the members Imo

steep dock Jul 15, 2021, 3:20 PM

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We need like 10 more gear slots obv

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Right glove, left glove, right boot, left boot. Pants. We dont have pants!

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 3:25 PM

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needs more necklace slots, nowhere near realistic limiting us to just one

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https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/mr-t-at-home-in-los-angeles-picture-id1309695258?s=612x612

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:29 PM

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metashake up is splitting body armor into chest (3 prefixes) and pants (3 suffixes) ofc
Get ready to see your vaal regalias cut in half

steep dock Jul 15, 2021, 3:34 PM

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League name is obv No Pants Path of Exile: No Pants

merry lava Jul 15, 2021, 3:42 PM

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crafting league

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:43 PM

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pre-prefixes and pre-suffixes

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wait no. what about new rarity

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:43 PM

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What on earth would we hate so much

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I think I'm more afraid than happy about new league already

sage thorn Jul 15, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Maybe the league will include changes to past content, much like what Ultimatum league did for rewards from past content?

devout osprey Jul 15, 2021, 3:45 PM

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that might be what the "meta-changing" thing is

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:46 PM

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ritual tackled past content somewhat, ulti did rewards
tbh im kinda thinking a systemic revamp of something else

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:46 PM

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I always hope that they do stuff with old content that shakes it up. So it doesn't feel like a pain to decide what to do

timid geyser Jul 15, 2021, 3:46 PM

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The answer is always boats

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⛵

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:46 PM

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timid geyser The answer is always boats

but yeah. it is

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:46 PM

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could be combat, could be flasks, inventory, who knows
But part of me thinks it's a revamp of something aside from content

timid geyser Jul 15, 2021, 3:47 PM

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maiden coral could be combat, could be flasks, inventory, who knows But part of me thinks it'...

Yes, could be naval combat, could be pirate peg flasks, could be barrels for storing stuff in ships. pepePirate

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:48 PM

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everything boat related is fine mavenCozy , everything else mavenRage

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:48 PM

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timid geyser Yes, could be naval combat, could be pirate peg flasks, could be barrels for sto...

We trading actual goods now, Tradewinds 2 style peepoexalt

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:48 PM

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haha

sage thorn Jul 15, 2021, 3:49 PM

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This is super farfetched a prediction, but what if the league introduces the new skill gem system showed off in PoE2?

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:50 PM

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thought about that too, but I'd say they still want to wait to hype PoE2 more

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Same, would be dope tho

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:50 PM

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yep

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Assuming PoE2 does have more than just the gem changes, I think that wouldn't be what they will ship ahead to lessen the "omg everything is changing" feel we will get

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:51 PM

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possible

wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 3:53 PM

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the main reason I don't think we're gonna get the new gem system until PoE 2, even if it's ready right now

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would be because they need to migrate all existing standard data over to the new system

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it's an absolutely massive undertaking, not something they could just throw together over the weekend

sage thorn Jul 15, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Fair point, yeah.

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They'd have to figure out what to do with Fusing Orbs too since the new skill gem system would make them obselete.

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:55 PM

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I do hope that they're ayt with this league's launch and the character transfers - that's what caused the issues with Ultimatum's queues if i'm not mistaken

devout osprey Jul 15, 2021, 3:55 PM

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🗑️ put them here

steep dock Jul 15, 2021, 3:55 PM

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empty crystal wait no. what about new rarity

Zizirare items. Whenever a ziz character dies, everyone gets a zizirare drop.

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:55 PM

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riffLul

maiden coral Jul 15, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Iirc, fusings will be converted back into jewelers at a rate

Also fun that it'll be chromatic in the main line of currency progression (trans > aug > alt > etc)

peak geode Jul 15, 2021, 3:57 PM

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4 HOURS, EXILES

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WHO ELSE IS GOING CHOO-CHOO ON THE HYPE TRAIN?!?!?!?!
HOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEE

rough bobcat Jul 15, 2021, 3:58 PM

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no twitch drops 😦

empty crystal Jul 15, 2021, 3:58 PM

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still scared

verbal wyvern Jul 15, 2021, 4:03 PM

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No twitch drops? Damn

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Sadge

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 4:05 PM

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https://preview.redd.it/ea2o6blryab71.jpg?width=640&height=882&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=fd2b2cd192719583f43b342579460ca3beffa343

devout osprey Jul 15, 2021, 4:06 PM

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top1 is techinically right. 2nd has a point 3rd idk economy in shambles?

limpid current Jul 15, 2021, 5:07 PM

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rotund surge https://preview.redd.it/ea2o6blryab71.jpg?width=640&height=882&crop=smart&auto=w...

if they dont like it and have a legitimate reason about it, I never minded, but if they just become a cesspool looking for attention, the subreddit can go to the devil, along with all the children that never grew up in it

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 6:22 PM

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the subreddit is where all joy goes to die

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this is new 🤨

devout osprey Jul 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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no

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oh it wasnt a question. but it isnt, incase it was

rough phoenix Jul 15, 2021, 6:37 PM

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guess i just never looked at it then

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 7:01 PM

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wary stratus Jul 15, 2021, 7:48 PM

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welp, 10 mins to go

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there are uh, spoilers in the pathofexile.com/livestream CSS

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something something badge header

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wow, there are a lot of spoilers in this css

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Please, get ready to spam about flasks in the q&a, thanks peepoexalt

silver kettle Jul 15, 2021, 7:59 PM

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wellll

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 7:59 PM

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C'mon Hex league!

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Still banking on that name

paper gale Jul 15, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Here we go :D

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:00 PM

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silver kettle wellll

Now I'm expecting something about Flasks after that answer

paper gale Jul 15, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Wow I completely forgot it was now and almost missed it, if it wasn't for the server ping...

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:00 PM

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I'm leaving this chat now because I'm worried that you guys will be a few seconds ahead and spoil me on what's ahead

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:00 PM

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rotund surge https://preview.redd.it/ea2o6blryab71.jpg?width=640&height=882&crop=smart&auto=w...

that exalt line still makes me believe that the theme song for PoE is Bastille's Pompey

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because WHEN YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Honestly, I need to see the trailer like 3 times

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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This looks complicated!

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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Aww, that's what it was. That's actually a name I thought would be perfect for a league awhile ago, but didn't think of it for this one.

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:03 PM

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i cant watch the live stream, so im counting on you guys to give me the play-by-play

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Oh no. Not explosives

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It's legion

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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oh my god

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Legion 2.0

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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that looks tedious af

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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valid isle i cant watch the live stream, so im counting on you guys to give me the play-by-...

Expedition League. Looks like 3 factions are trying to find secrets about Wraeclast's past by using explosives to breach into archeology sites. Summoning monsters in the process and gettings relics.

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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looks like harvest but instant returns

steep dock Jul 15, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Make your Own circle League

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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"Ancient Kalguran explorers"

So it sounds like "Kalguran" is going to become a new culture added in PoE's lore.

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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watching the stream

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Kalgurans might be related to Poe2

fervent storm Jul 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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1k splinter stacks.....okay

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:05 PM

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and some monsters are ||Immune to certain types of damage like physical||

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Oh great, gambling

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

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ughhh

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

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"average man" obese af

rose pasture Jul 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Sounds fun league!

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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I wonder if he's voiced by Danny DeVito

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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trash unique npc

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Oh great, a chance orb vendor

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:07 PM

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sharp iron Expedition League. Looks like 3 factions are trying to find secrets about Wraecl...

legion meets delve? lol

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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do all of the npcs have their own currency?

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Yeah

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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valid isle legion meets delve? lol

LMFAO that’s what I was thinking

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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LUL ggg always adding new trash currencies

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Oh great, another locker

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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i mean, i loved legion personally

fervent storm Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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tired spindle Oh great, another locker

at least with affinity

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Better a new locker then a new stash tab

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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How much y’all wanna bet the explosions causes a bunch of crashes?

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:08 PM

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especially the 5-way fight.

But delve was kinda zzz to me.

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Oh hello

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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infinite delve was ❤️

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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That portal tho

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Something that is like a new form of map

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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This looks sick and holy shit that portal

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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what the fuck

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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That portal animation is sexy

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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the models/animations are definitely good

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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I really like the mechanics, but I think I would've preferred if this had a pirate theme instead of a necromacy theme

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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no loot filter templarLul

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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What is this Ward

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:09 PM

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The portals 🥵

south gulch Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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What's the site for the expansion? http://www.pathofexile.com/expedition doesn't work

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Oh the stream crashed.....

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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New Def. Now it gets sexy

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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its like armor but better nvm 5sec cooldown LUL

south gulch Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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fiery tartan Oh the stream crashed.....

stream fine for me

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Oh I’m a bit behind lol

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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It's basically a scaling wind dancer

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Twitch just said no and closed my screen

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What does Ward do?

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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I’m going from the poe website

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:10 PM

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battlemage helm without crits

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Isnt ward what evasion already is

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Isn't the ward value really low though?

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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It basically reduces one hit every so often?

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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fickle current It basically reduces one hit every so often?

yeah

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Yeah 1 hit every 5 sec

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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why would I get ward if I could just stack more evasion

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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covert nacelle why would I get ward if I could just stack more evasion

to tank that 1 hit every 5 secs

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Seems like a good fit for eva chars? But 5 seconds seems like a long time

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Why not rework old gems, like Viper Strike?

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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covert nacelle why would I get ward if I could just stack more evasion

For when your character fails to evade a boss hit

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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I guess if you already have too much evasion

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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But there’s gear that reduces the time

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Oh there is? I msised it

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:11 PM

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I think there is

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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dense summit Seems like a good fit for eva chars? But 5 seconds seems like a long time

the helm had 20% faster recharge, so assuming the rest of the set can get similar mods

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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covert nacelle why would I get ward if I could just stack more evasion

because now you can (probably) stack multiple def layers on one item

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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I'm ready. Give me these gems

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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19 new skill and support gems riffLul

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Slam totem oh my god

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Oh that's what we needed. More slam support

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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COME ON AND SLAM TOTEM

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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SLAM TOTEM

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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SLAM TOTEM POG

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:12 PM

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AHHH IM A FEW SECONDS BEHIND

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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MELEE ATTACK TOTEM POG

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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totem meta?

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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LEAP SLAM TOTEMS lul

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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Leap slam tOTEEEEem

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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Ah I just saw the leap slam

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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BALLERINA TWIRL

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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bladestorm but better?

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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wait this dude is like level 30 in a low level zone.

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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stun build pog

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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covert nacelle BALLERINA TWIRL

Fuck this is making it so hard to decide what build I wanna play

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Why they make bone shatter look garbage

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Boneshatter is weird. Hit yourself to do more damage

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:14 PM

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tired spindle Why they make bone shatter look garbage

heavy strike but better templarLul

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:14 PM

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bone shatter = self-head trauma

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Hey! Been awhile since we've gotten a new banner

fickle current Jul 15, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Fuck I have an ad break :(

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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fuck the banner I wanna see what that channeling skill is

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Shield Charge without the charge

crisp tree Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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that looks sick

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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SHIELD THROW BUT BETTER

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Oh sick!

crisp tree Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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gem hh Pog

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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oooooo behead!

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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HEADHUNTER SUPPORT GEM!?!?!

dawn ferry Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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oh here

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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"skill but better" seems to be the theme of this league LUL

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Ahh boo no stacking

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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POG indeed

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Oh no stacking

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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oh. it's shit.

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:15 PM

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that sound effect though

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Storm arrow is cool

dawn ferry Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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i gotta wait a bit for build guides

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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storm rain looks awesome too

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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lightning toxic rain

dawn ferry Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Chieftain gonna be super op

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Eh nothing survives ballistas anyway

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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looks cool tho

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Whoa unarmed skill

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Flask meta

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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WTF

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Explosive Concoction is really weird. But interesting.

junior belfry Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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lots of interesting stuff here

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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3 FLASK SLOTS I DONT NEED TO SPAM

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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flask throw from Last epoch

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:17 PM

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shadowstep hell yes

crisp tree Jul 15, 2021, 8:18 PM

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dashing coc

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Kind of slow burst

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Why does every lightning skill have to be weird to cast

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:18 PM

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attack traps???

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:18 PM

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blade trap kinda weird, no cooldown though

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Herald of Poison, Reaper edition

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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summon Reaper pog

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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OH SHIT

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Reaper is cool

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Reaper looks sick

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Summon reaper + HoaG + Carrion golem

crisp tree Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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lul

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Ha

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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kek

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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forbidden rite was what i wanted to see

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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eat this scorpion, reaper

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:19 PM

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5Ex gone

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Low Life build with forbidden rite

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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homing Blazing salvo

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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That's just winter orb

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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pog real winter orb

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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EYE OF WINTER = BETTER WINTER ORB

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Winter orb CwC Eye of winter

crisp tree Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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wtf

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Meteors what

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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with Sire of Shards ofc

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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Wait that's the new firestorm????

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:20 PM

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definitely not better then old WO

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:21 PM

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tempest bind but better

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:21 PM

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pretty rune is pretty

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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absolution inception pog

sharp iron Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Lots of interesting skills. Shame we can only play one or two of them per character.

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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orbital strike minions

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Absolution is cool

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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sharp iron Lots of interesting skills. Shame we can only play one or two of them per charac...

yea until Poe2

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Vall Spectral Throw?

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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HAMMERDIN

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Auradin!

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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no ones stopping u from re-rolling within your class choice though

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finally actual hammerdiwn

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I've wanted something like Spectral Helix for so long

dawn ferry Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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balance

fervent storm Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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nerfs incoming

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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here we goooo

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Here they come

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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"we're nerfing everything by 99%"

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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rip molten strike

fiery tartan Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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that's a lot of power

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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uh oh

crisp tree Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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rip melee for no reason

rotund surge Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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lets set it to zero!

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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lmao harvest

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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How many new skills are we looking at?

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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19

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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holy hell.

tired spindle Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Oh we are getting a power crush

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Well, that includes supports

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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19 new gems altogether

valid isle Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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oh, including supports. how many new actives?

dense summit Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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but like 12 actives I think

fallen tulip Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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i didnt count how many new actives

covert nacelle Jul 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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100% delirium showcase???