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wet creek Mar 7, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Hello! So I started a flicker sticker stike build and I have 7 frenzy charges until now, but from the very beginning my frenzy charges also drops also when i use flicker stike ?!!?

light adder Mar 7, 2021, 2:57 AM

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You spend charges to bypass the cooldown of flicker

wet creek Mar 7, 2021, 2:57 AM

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so how can i fix this

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i didnt see anyone from youtube to have this

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what i am missing 🙂

light adder Mar 7, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Quality on flicker strike gem, blood rage, items like farruls fur, oro' sacrifice, terminus est etc

wet creek Mar 7, 2021, 3:01 AM

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10x

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crecursor's emblem

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is there a limit of elemental - res or penetration ?

vast gazelle Mar 7, 2021, 3:25 AM

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no but it has somewhat diminishing returns

wet creek Mar 7, 2021, 5:42 AM

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so if I penetrate 50 res and put curs for - 42 % right, sooo is it too much ? I mean usually there is a point / cap of max efficiency and after this point it is not worth it so much, right? What can you tell me of my stats? Should I get rid of one of the stats?

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and also i want to ask about close combat support and what means bas eon proximity ... if i gain some melee range what will happen

vast gazelle Mar 7, 2021, 5:58 AM

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so

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penetrate and reduce/strip res stack additively @wet creek

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values below 0 increase damage taken

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-100% effective resist is doubled damage taken etc.

wet creek Mar 7, 2021, 5:59 AM

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yeah yeayh

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ok

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and close combat support gem ?

vast gazelle Mar 7, 2021, 6:13 AM

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afaik you have to be like

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physically on top to get full benefit

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and it falls off over i think 15 range?

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not 100% on that one

wet creek Mar 7, 2021, 7:07 AM

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like a level obef the target ?

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above the target*

wanton shell Mar 7, 2021, 10:13 AM

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wich ring is better for berzerker lvl 72 last act??

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till now,i didnt found best solution

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i didnt find@

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..and i never have a options to do best craft for me

livid goblet Mar 7, 2021, 1:47 PM

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my blood filled vessel which i want to use for Ritual V challenge, has 2 bosses instead of just the stalker of endless dunes boss. will it still work?

devout osprey Mar 7, 2021, 6:03 PM

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yes

sour mountain Mar 8, 2021, 12:38 AM

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itll just give you even more favor

wet creek Mar 8, 2021, 11:10 PM

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does crit strike stack with double and triple damage?

sour mountain Mar 9, 2021, 12:20 AM

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yes

polar citrus Mar 9, 2021, 7:14 PM

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anyone have a moment to bail me out of a dumb invitation? 7 bosses left in a new vastir invite with ele weakness+extra dmg as fire

eager charm Mar 9, 2021, 7:15 PM

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We have #1┃looking-for-group @polar citrus

polar citrus Mar 9, 2021, 7:15 PM

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thx

humble glade Mar 11, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Do the ritual rewards scale based on player level or zone lvl?

velvet palm Mar 11, 2021, 3:51 PM

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only div cards scale off of player level as far as I know

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ritual scaling is questionable as fuck

humble glade Mar 11, 2021, 4:17 PM

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so it doesn't really matter what zone I'm in. I'm just hitting act 10 by the way

spice cipher Mar 11, 2021, 5:25 PM

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ritual rewards are best during acts and early mapping tho they can still be good its just rng like everything else

torpid pewter Mar 11, 2021, 7:26 PM

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ritual rewards scale? From what I have seen, they are random objects, gated by zone level, and pack count limited. By that, I mean if you are in the acts, you most likely won't see exalts until you hit a zone level in which they could appear as a drop. And in maps, it uses the same drop tables as the map. Pack count seems to limit how many items and definitely how much tribute you could earn. I have noticed object counts super low in t16 base maps vs t16 Alc orbed maps.

proper widget Mar 12, 2021, 3:51 AM

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i think ex are like lvl 34

barren crescent Mar 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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is the lvl requirement really relevant in bigger picture when you spend hopefully less than 1% in lvls 1-35 of your league's playtime.

torpid pewter Mar 12, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Do the new watchstones that do not say number of uses, have uses? Like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chromium_Haewark_Hamlet_Watchstone - got my answer after more Googling: No, they stay

Path of Exile Wiki

Chromium Haewark Hamlet Watchstone

Chromium Haewark Hamlet WatchstoneOnly the souls trapped within can bear witness to the Maven's dark proclivities, and they dare not speak up.Socket this into a Citadel on your Atlas to increase the Tier of Maps and reveal hidden Maps in that Citadel's Region. You can only socket one Crimson, Viridian, Cobalt or Golden Watchstone into each Citad...

vast gazelle Mar 12, 2021, 11:49 PM

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they dont

violet nymph Mar 13, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Man I'll say this tho

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I been getting some stupid baller items on rituals

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Since I only do em on super juiced maps

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Like popped a 4/20 enlightens, exalt cards, t1 base item craft sales, and the jewels

lucid dagger Mar 13, 2021, 2:57 PM

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is there a strategic way to use a Ritual Vessel? I know you can use it on the map device to increase the ritual monsters, but when would I want to do that?

violet nymph Mar 13, 2021, 7:35 PM

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when you think a deferred very expensive item is about to show up i guess

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but honestly it's impossible to predict

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so just use it at some point and hope that it lines up lol

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there were a lot of posts on reddit complaining about them using 4 vessels and getting garbage for the items in the ritual

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imo each vessel should add an additional reroll and people seem to agree with me

sour mountain Mar 14, 2021, 5:41 AM

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its for juicing monster density

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and nothing else, imo

ebon locust Mar 14, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Im finally done with this league

velvet palm Mar 14, 2021, 11:14 PM

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oh shit I forgot challenges were a thing Pepexalt

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gonna have to finish up mine some time soon

deep plinth Mar 15, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Just wondering how long is left on this league does anyone know?

light adder Mar 15, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Only info we got so far was next league starts early-mid april

deep plinth Mar 15, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Will wait until next one than thanks

placid grotto Mar 15, 2021, 5:33 PM

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That's a bit long for a league, no? Is GGG going to 3x leagues per year? I can't imagine they would as that would be a 25% cut in revenue

eager terrace Mar 15, 2021, 5:33 PM

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regular 3 months

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heist is the one that ran an extra month

tawny pasture Mar 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Heist was long

placid grotto Mar 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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If Ritual goes through mid April, that's 4 months, no?

tawny pasture Mar 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Ritual is just normal

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Its starting in january

placid grotto Mar 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Since it started mid Jan

tawny pasture Mar 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Not december

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Its 3 month

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Not 4

placid grotto Mar 15, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Oh derp right

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And this is why languages index to 0 not 1 haha

viscid kindle Mar 16, 2021, 11:35 PM

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holy shit i got an exalted orb from the ritual thing lmao

maiden coral Mar 18, 2021, 9:33 AM

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Slam it

slender temple Mar 18, 2021, 7:40 PM

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wait

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close your eyes first

velvet palm Mar 18, 2021, 11:31 PM

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can't guarantee 2.4 life regen without closing your eyes

lost sand Mar 19, 2021, 2:41 AM

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@Bleeddudebro oshabi kill count

slender temple Mar 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

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lost sand @Bleeddudebro oshabi kill count

wrong discord

violet nymph Mar 24, 2021, 3:43 PM

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I slammed 30 exalts worth of mods today

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Best I got was a t1 rarity

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Noice!

vast gazelle Mar 24, 2021, 6:20 PM

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did you close your eyes

violet nymph Mar 24, 2021, 7:04 PM

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No cause my balls were closed

vast gazelle Mar 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

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ah good substitute

spare axle Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Slam an ex eye closed a day to keep any doctor away

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and your sanity in bonus

sharp iron Mar 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I can see why Echoes of the Atlas expansion and Ritual league happened at the same time. Both involve fighting bosses outside of their normal arenas, so when they could make that possible to do with the boss fights, they could do both things with it.

white badge Mar 28, 2021, 8:35 AM

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is the the 50 blood-filled vessels with maps counting each blood-filled vessel or is it counting each map

white badge Mar 28, 2021, 9:26 AM

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it's per vessel in case somebody searches for this

raw crest Mar 29, 2021, 12:49 AM

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How hard is the Maven fight? I can kill Sirus A9 for comparison

cunning blade Mar 29, 2021, 1:26 AM

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uh, easy i guess? could be hard

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her abilities are all easy to dodge, only difficult ones are the memory game, boss spawns and coil beam phase

slender temple Mar 29, 2021, 4:08 AM

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raw crest How hard is the Maven fight? I can kill Sirus A9 for comparison

you can insta phase her but still gotta deal with her "stuff" she does. unlike sirus who you can just insta phase 3 times then insta kill him with almost no interaction with his "stuff" asiude from teh tornados

sharp iron Apr 3, 2021, 6:13 AM

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Got lucky today with an Unnatural Instinct appearing in my ritual rewards and being able to Defer it. It's going to take awhile since it was 10k tribute to buy, but that item is worth several exalted so I am looking forward to getting it.

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I actually am collecting up enough currency that once Ritual merged into Standard, I'll be able to buy a Headhunter in Standard.

velvet palm Apr 3, 2021, 8:52 PM

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the fact that being able to defer isn't guaranteed still appalls me

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like, here's a thing you'll never be able to get

sharp iron Apr 4, 2021, 6:09 AM

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Hasn't happened to me yet

frigid venture Apr 4, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Ritual League Challenge Statistics when?

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also why is there a Harvest League statistics post but none for Heist League

native sonnet Apr 4, 2021, 6:45 PM

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maybe cuz it was so bad? templarHeist

next epoch Apr 4, 2021, 6:47 PM

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throwback to that time they published ascendancy statistics for some league and everyone pointed out that the huge percentage of unascended witches was probably mostly bots

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2757540 ah, that was from metamorph

Surprisingly, even though this dataset was taken 5 weeks into the league, we see unascended Witches as the most common class.

Path of Exile

Announcements - Metamorph Statistics: Challenges and Ascendancy Cla...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

barren crescent Apr 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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it would be interesting to get access to perfect data of player statistics

sharp iron Apr 5, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Do we currently have any information on what happens to items in our Deferal list when the league ends? I currently have an Unnatural Instinct that was defered, and I don't want that to vanish.

red jackal Apr 5, 2021, 4:44 PM

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nope

sharp iron Apr 5, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Defering an item lowers its cost by 10% of it's current (not original) cost, right?

red jackal Apr 5, 2021, 7:52 PM

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nope, 10% of the original cost

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you pay 10%+5% deferral fee

tawny pasture Apr 5, 2021, 10:56 PM

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sharp iron Do we currently have any information on what happens to items in our Deferal lis...

we done even know yet if it goes core

sharp iron Apr 5, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Ah, true.

brisk capeBOT Apr 6, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Rule 10 no longer exists!

copper kernel Apr 6, 2021, 6:42 PM

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WhatTheFuck

violet nymph Apr 6, 2021, 6:51 PM

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What was rule 10

slender temple Apr 6, 2021, 6:59 PM

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dunno

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there are some secret rujlesi tihnk

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or were removed idk

brisk capeBOT Apr 6, 2021, 7:00 PM

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Rule 11 no longer exists!

barren crescent Apr 6, 2021, 7:13 PM

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we condensed server rules by 2 or 3 few months ago

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mainly merging thing or two

sharp iron Apr 6, 2021, 7:59 PM

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I'm going to play more of this league just to get my Unnatural Instinct off of the Deferral list, and then retire this character for awhile.

crystal mantle Apr 8, 2021, 9:46 PM

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wooot

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first

carmine vigil Apr 8, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Huh

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Oh it only 6 days till this league comes huh wonder how its going to bw

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Be*

violet nymph Apr 8, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Seems like it's gonna be pretty damn incredible

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Given there's not a whole lot of ways you can scale phys degen with spells I'll bet it'll be a good budget option

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Reap league starter maybe?

tawny pasture Apr 8, 2021, 10:26 PM

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carmine vigil Oh it only 6 days till this league comes huh wonder how its going to bw

8 days

carmine vigil Apr 8, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Ye that

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Same thing

mystic sparrow Apr 8, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Was there any info on what Everlasting Sacrifice is on the new unique shield?

silver kettle Apr 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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there was not 😄

mystic sparrow Apr 8, 2021, 10:39 PM

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dangit

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i wanted to theorycraft on the shield, it looks pretty neato

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but from what i could compile so far:

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Immortal Ambition's "Energy Shield cannot Regen or Recharge" doesnt apply to Eternal Youth's "Energy Recharge applied to life"

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so having some energy recharge still works

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Corrupted Soul and Divine Flesh both make energy shield as a defense rather useless, so Eldritch Battery is an option

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I could see a MoM Indigon build use this shield, but that entirely depends on what Everlasting Sacrifice does

violet nymph Apr 8, 2021, 11:20 PM

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So, bloodthirst seems pretty decent even if the % life as added flat damage doesn't scale with level. cuz 2% of 7k life is 140 flat at level 1.
compared to rage support at 50 rage's 59-107 added flat at level 20

vast gazelle Apr 8, 2021, 11:42 PM

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mystic sparrow i wanted to theorycraft on the shield, it looks pretty neato

afaik the shield is any 6 random keystones

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not just those 6

violet nymph Apr 8, 2021, 11:42 PM

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vast gazelle afaik the shield is any 6 random keystones

Nope, it's been confirmed to be just those 6

vast gazelle Apr 8, 2021, 11:44 PM

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wait really

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oh carry on

languid zenith Apr 8, 2021, 11:48 PM

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Iterating on the ritual formula seems like a good plan

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Big clumps of enemies, kill em and get stuff

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core PoE

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Wonder how well LL attack will play out

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presumably you'd still go ES?

unkempt jungle Apr 8, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Are the maven ascendancy for atlas region goign to change?

devout osprey Apr 8, 2021, 11:51 PM

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yes, we dont know what though

mystic sparrow Apr 8, 2021, 11:51 PM

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They're adding a ritual one

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and they're rebalancing some others, possibly the harbingers one

unkempt jungle Apr 8, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Would be great to know this as it can influance league starters

tawny pasture Apr 8, 2021, 11:52 PM

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wait for dev manifesto or patch note

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like we all do

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:05 AM

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languid zenith presumably you'd still go ES?

Honestly life builds can hit pretty high HPs to start with.
Even if you get pulled down to half from 9-10k hp, 4.5-5k life with 2% life as attack would also be nuts.

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Also 40% damage taken as dots is pretty good defensively. With headroom for popping out of LL with a flask to deal with big hits.

vast gazelle Apr 9, 2021, 12:07 AM

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especially if you have vaal pact or just big leeches

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its insane

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Yeah, seems like there's plenty to work with on that front.

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 12:09 AM

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What builds focus on both hit and DoT?

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That sounds like a pain to scale unless they changed up something.

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Also, WOO PHYS DOT SPELLS!

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:11 AM

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@lucid stone reap, the new spell scales both, in the most convenient way possible, spelldamage = dot multi

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 12:12 AM

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I wonder if reap mines are gonna be a thing. It sounds obnoxious to have a ton of scythes everywhere

copper kernel Apr 9, 2021, 12:12 AM

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scaling both sounds like a waste

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 12:13 AM

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I'm asking because it was mentioned in the content reveal, not really because I'm trying to make a sabo build.

silver kettle Apr 9, 2021, 12:13 AM

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schwing

copper kernel Apr 9, 2021, 12:13 AM

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is glad going to be the phys spell ascendancy

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monkaHmm

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:15 AM

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vanity

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Last league I wanted something that made enemies wet and did something with lightning damage. We got hydrosphere.
I wanted phys DoT spells and now we have this. :D

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I'm hoping next league we get channeled wand skills.

silver kettle Apr 9, 2021, 12:23 AM

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takes notes

devout osprey Apr 9, 2021, 12:24 AM

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channeled totem skills, you wield 1 totem like a laser canon and it shoots a laser (duh)

proper widget Apr 9, 2021, 12:27 AM

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a channeled support that makes a spell go off at the cursor might be cool

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theres a few spells that support edge-of-screen targeting but a channel support would add a lot of potential weirdness

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:31 AM

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oh

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oh god thats a good point

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vanity

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 12:32 AM

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hngngg

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multiple scaling dipping

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:32 AM

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and tecrods gaze isnt limited to 1 apparently

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 12:33 AM

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HHNNNGGG

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:33 AM

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so having 5 of them is 250% crit multi in off hand jesus fuck

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 12:33 AM

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thats awesome

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more chase items

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:33 AM

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also can we talk about essence of delirium belt craft

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50% during any flask effect

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a certain class(es) going to be very happy

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and boots with cannot be poisoned

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im so happy wtf

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we can do cannot change prefixes / suffixes and reforge with essences now

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lmao

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lol

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probably no witchHarvest

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yea

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with the glove base that gives 50% inc dmg to off hands

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:40 AM

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ik this is a poe2 thing, but can we talk about claws counted as unarmed?

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:46 AM

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y

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vanity

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:48 AM

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because that opens a ton of skills for facebreakers :^)

thin vine Apr 9, 2021, 12:56 AM

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you guys know normal jewels can get 51% multi 7% life right?

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and aren't even that hard to make w/ harvest

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Does fever have a max stack, or is it just dependent on how many hits you can get out before you reset it?

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:58 AM

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thin vine you guys know normal jewels can get 51% multi 7% life right?

triple multi cost like 20ex tho, see how rare these new unique ones are

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:58 AM

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lucid stone Does fever have a max stack, or is it just dependent on how many hits you can ge...

think corrupted blood stacks to 10?

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:59 AM

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lucid stone Does fever have a max stack, or is it just dependent on how many hits you can ge...

do believe it's 20 stacks which is corrupted blood, since it's corrupted

silver kettle Apr 9, 2021, 12:59 AM

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violet nymph do believe it's 20 stacks which is corrupted blood, since it's corrupted

corrupted blood is changing to 10 max

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 12:59 AM

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ah

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 12:59 AM

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silver kettle *takes notes*

I love things that interact with ground effects
purifying flame is my favorite skill
pretty please 🥺

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:00 AM

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... duration skill with a locked direction so you have to move your character to aim it

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:00 AM

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Hmm, I wanna do something that uses both archmage and the new life sacrifice stuff.

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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depending on how the new life sacrifice stuff is worded, it might not work with archmage.

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Are we getting phys DoT multi in the shadow area?

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The only phys DoT is in the bleed part of the tree, and on clusters

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:01 AM

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I'd assume there's some support in the passive tree somewhere.

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:02 AM

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If low life is now 50%, then that makes minions a little easier to kill for MI

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:03 AM

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don't make me play popcorn skeletons again, I will do it

severe hamlet Apr 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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I'm excited about new phys dmg over time spell skills, it's kinda new archetype, don't remember other spells that deal phys dmg over time

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:05 AM

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How good is 2% of max life as flat weapon phys? Poor facebreakers :(

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I'm guessing it goes up to 5% or 8%

severe hamlet Apr 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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if you have 8k health, that's 160 added phys? that's great, no?

proper widget Apr 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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its 100+ flat phys

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:06 AM

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On a 10k life build that would give you 800 flat phys to weapons.

proper widget Apr 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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and 10+% more

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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But you'd have spent a lot of your points in life and not damage.

proper widget Apr 9, 2021, 1:07 AM

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im prob gonna take it with the new phys+bleed support

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Coward's Legacy is going to probably be BIS

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Because it doubles the life you can have when you want to use this.

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I kinda want to do a fever build with kinetic blast.
Also that unique abyss jewel that lets your projectiles chain off walls has me excited.

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I'm guessing the maximum of 20% doesn't go to 40% if you equip two of them?

vast gazelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:14 AM

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as written it should

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:15 AM

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It should go to 40%?

vast gazelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:15 AM

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yeah

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unless theres a limit on the number you can use

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:15 AM

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To me it reads like Expansive Might or whatever that one staff cluster is.

vast gazelle Apr 9, 2021, 1:15 AM

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put 2 in the abyss belt

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ez 70%

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:15 AM

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They're searching eye jewels themselves.

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How useful is chaining off walls?

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I liked using it with kinetic blast.

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I'm expecting that it stays at 20% :<

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However, this sounds like a really fun jewel to put in a stygian vise or in a rare that has a hollow fossil. :>

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🤞 Please don't be 20ex

north crow Apr 9, 2021, 1:20 AM

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watching the video when the perandus coins dropped they didn't show them?

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anyone think they fixed grouping of item drops and don't want to spoil it yet?

proper widget Apr 9, 2021, 1:37 AM

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don't 'up to a maximum' stats not really stack

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i thought they established that for some of the cluster jewel notables

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don't remember the wording on that jewel though, it might be a maximum per-jewel depending on how it works

cosmic basalt Apr 9, 2021, 1:38 AM

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anybody thinking about how to build for Reap?

limber spire Apr 9, 2021, 1:38 AM

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i wonder, can you support non-auras with arrogance support?

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and if so, would the skill only get the mana multiplier and not spend life?

cosmic basalt Apr 9, 2021, 1:39 AM

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nice

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 1:43 AM

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limber spire and if so, would the skill only get the mana multiplier and not spend life?

No, for it to support the skill it needs to be something that reserves mana.

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You know what would be fun? Skills that have built in lightning to cold or cold to fiew

north dragon Apr 9, 2021, 3:16 AM

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Looks fun

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The new league

fair prairie Apr 9, 2021, 3:31 AM

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not super hyped for league, seems a little plain jane. But the loot changes has me hyped

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 AM

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lucid stone No, for it to support the skill it needs to be something that reserves mana.

archmage + that?

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syn

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 3:46 AM

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im actually more interested in exsanguiate

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though I fear its boss potential may be kinda poopy

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I wonder if exsanguiate mines would be viable

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:14 AM

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So I got a question because I have had something in my head since Petrified Blood was announced and I can't stop thinking about it.

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GGG confirmed that Agnostic will keep consuming mana if you have Petrified Blood since you're not "at full life" however, if you manage to reserve exactly 50% of your life that would mean you're both at low life AND Agnostic deactivates until your hp goes down of course

carmine canopy Apr 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Agnostic still consumes mana if you've got life reserved

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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oh it does?

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damn it

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never mind then 😦

carmine canopy Apr 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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It was indeed a good idea

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:16 AM

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I was thinking that plus MOM on a hierophant with cloak of defiance would mean I only take 10% direct dmg lol

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templarSad

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I wonder if anyone has ever made a build with so much Mana regen that Agnostic doesn't lower your mana LOL

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Gotta research

proper widget Apr 9, 2021, 4:18 AM

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i feel like thats every agnostic build

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or i guess the cost only kicks in when ur actually down hp

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Yeah thats waht I mean, Assuming you're always not at full hp. You have so much mana regen that your mana doesnt go down even though agnostic is ticking

sharp iron Apr 9, 2021, 4:21 AM

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How much time do we have left for Ritual?

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:21 AM

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robust surge I was thinking that plus MOM on a hierophant with cloak of defiance would mean I...

that assumes the 40% from PB is additive to MoM which it likely isnt

tawny pasture Apr 9, 2021, 4:21 AM

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sharp iron How much time do we have left for Ritual?

it end on 12

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:21 AM

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its probably 40% of the damage you take that didnt get taken from mana

sharp iron Apr 9, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Thanks

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:22 AM

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otherwise you could use other sources of mana before life to gain 0% damage taken directly

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which would basically be immortality with any amount of leech

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:23 AM

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robust surge I wonder if anyone has ever made a build with so much Mana regen that Agnostic d...

anomalous arcane surge

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:23 AM

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You're probably right there, but is still quite strong assuming that the Petrified BLood doesn't gain more on the dot that is still a 70% dmg reduction

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:23 AM

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issue is PB has 35% mana reserve

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and is not an aura

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so you cant put it in essence worm

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so have fun stacking enough mana to support 70% MoM with that

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:26 AM

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With 22% reduced mana reserved + Blood Magic 20 + Enlighten 3 you achieve a 50% Hp reservation on a 35% mana reservation gem (I was testing it with Discipline)

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:27 AM

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50% HP reserve loses you the perma overleech effect of PB

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also 22% RMR is not exactly the easiest thing to grab

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:27 AM

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I was thinking on making a caster so

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Also with Agnostic who cares about overleech?

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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rare girder also 22% RMR is not exactly the easiest thing to grab

True

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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agnostic on PB? you'll have constant mana degen

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Thats why I was asking if its possible to get so much mana regen that even with Agnostic active 100% of the time mana still wont go down

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Dunno if thats possible

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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it wont go down passively

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but once you take your first hit

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70% MoM hits

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aaaaand you're at 0 mana

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:29 AM

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Yeah

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I was contemplating making it work but since you pointed out that they're not addictive that killed it for me hahaha

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Which makes sense, if it was it would be very op

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:29 AM

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also in all of this

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where is your DPS

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:30 AM

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I haven't think about that yet. I was just thinking about whether that was possible or not xD

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:31 AM

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you're already spending a ton of passives getting 22% RMR and enough HP to support PB

leaden wraith Apr 9, 2021, 4:31 AM

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i wonder if you can reserve life with pb

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:32 AM

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you can but reserving >= 50% loses your permaleech

leaden wraith Apr 9, 2021, 4:33 AM

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it'll be nice to theory craft around

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having perma leech on not slayer could be cool

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:33 AM

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rare girder so you cant put it in essence worm

I believe this is not accurate though

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Essence Worm just says it reserves no mana, doesn't it work with Heralds?

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:33 AM

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oh hm

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maybe you could then

leaden wraith Apr 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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and we dont know if this scales with gem level yet

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could go more than 40% if it does

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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A level 1 petrified blood prevents 40% of that loss,

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i would say this implies it does

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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Yeah I'm very interesting in finding that out too @leaden wraith

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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#ggg-tracker

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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Yeah but how much, 50% or 60%? Anything higher than that would be insane in my opinion

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:34 AM

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wonder what the max will be

leaden wraith Apr 9, 2021, 4:35 AM

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if it goes past 50%, which is the breakeven, its basically slayer leech for the most of it

robust surge Apr 9, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Yeah if it reaches 60% I'm going to be very happy.

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:36 AM

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wonder if it will have an alt qual that will scale it

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wonder what the base quality scales on it even

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maybe the duration that damage is taken over?

leaden wraith Apr 9, 2021, 4:36 AM

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maybe

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 4:38 AM

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4s => 4.5s at 20q

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or smth

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though that would make 23q do nothing on it

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assuming it rounds to 1 place

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 5:00 AM

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im just watching the presentation now
you can use an offering to go to a random trial 😍

leaden wraith Apr 9, 2021, 5:17 AM

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some of the changes are very nice

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 5:19 AM

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Does Corrupting Fever work with totems?

rare girder Apr 9, 2021, 5:34 AM

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this means you only really need to find a single trial in maps now

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unless the opened trials dont drop offerings

lucid stone Apr 9, 2021, 5:39 AM

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I wonder how petrified blood DoT damage works with MoM

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Hmm, that actually sounds like a fun build...
Divine Flesh + MoM + Ivory tower + Petrified Blood... + font of thunder + Mind of the Council?

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Doesn't help for phys damage, though

sharp iron Apr 9, 2021, 6:35 AM

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Guys! I have a theory!

We know that Veiled Chaos orbs are basic currency items, and that they are going to add more vendor recipies.

The vendor recipie for chaos orbs is 1 rare item for every equipment (or a 2 handers filling both hand slots).

So I theorize there will be a vendor recipie for veiled chaos orbs, being 1 veiled rare item for every equipment slot. Which would also give incentive to not immedietly vendor items after unveiling them (as they always have their own influence icon, even after unveiling)

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 6:54 AM

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rare girder unless the opened trials dont drop offerings

i expect they won't
it's still an amazing buff to SSF

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especially as you get a lot of offerings from things other than trials

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im curious if anyone's thought of good ways to use the new veiled orb but idk

maiden coral Apr 9, 2021, 9:52 AM

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So Im a bit curious if trials opened by offerings will drop offerings
Chaining them eternally might seem too good cause once you get one you get all (eventually)

warm lodge Apr 9, 2021, 10:32 AM

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what is the reliquary foil version of things? Is it just a cosmetic difference

dull pawn Apr 9, 2021, 10:34 AM

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wonder how many people are gonna be angry about the harvest changes

gaunt loom Apr 9, 2021, 10:42 AM

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harvest will still be good, not just op shit

barren crescent Apr 9, 2021, 10:44 AM

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it will still be op shit

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templarLul

dusky kernel Apr 9, 2021, 10:53 AM

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maiden coral So Im a bit curious if trials opened by offerings will drop offerings Chaining t...

They might be changed to be similar to vaal side areas opened with a vaal fragment. Chance to drop

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There is a chance to keep chaining vaal side areas back when it was worth opening them in your hideout but those days are long gone since now you get absolutely showered in fragments

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Mostly fishing for midnights because midnights used to be rare back in the days of literally watching your HD activity to look to see if a vaal side area was available in your instance

maiden coral Apr 9, 2021, 10:59 AM

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Yeah that's true

dusky kernel Apr 9, 2021, 11:17 AM

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They said they wont have the specific syndicate persons mods

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like elreons or haku's

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in the veiled chaos orb pool

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which is a BIG shame

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that might be the only change because the new tier of unveil is all numerical increases

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so like unveiling the added phys mod before still unlocks the T2 added phys we know and love, but the unveiled put onto the item is closer to the T1 mod

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that i dont know

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 12:13 PM

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cant find any info bout slinger reservation of life-cost spells

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am i right, slinger would reserve mana, but spend life on cast?

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:17 PM

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why would it spend resource

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if its already reserving

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 12:18 PM

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but reserving what?)

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:18 PM

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no idea for that tho

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likely will reserve mana

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since spellslinger already overrides the cost for the spells

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 12:19 PM

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thats smart

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 12:20 PM

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could be a good way to deal with life costs but lets see how good these gems are first anyway whatYouDidThere

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 12:23 PM

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opens CI possibilities

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or low life

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 12:55 PM

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i would figure you'd be better off linking your spellslinger to Arrogance

cunning blade Apr 9, 2021, 1:27 PM

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what

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y

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its not an aura so it wont benefit

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u lose a dmg support

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and get a massive 200% multi on it for reservation

cursive gust Apr 9, 2021, 2:22 PM

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still looking for info on everlasting sacrifice

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 2:25 PM

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cursive gust still looking for info on everlasting sacrifice

check back in a week 😄

cursive gust Apr 9, 2021, 2:27 PM

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:anonpony_stressed:

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 2:46 PM

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cursive gust :anonpony_stressed:

ill tell you in

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well maybe sooner

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if we get the json next week for pob

rare rose Apr 9, 2021, 3:19 PM

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Obviously we don't know all the Ultimatum modifiers yet.. but what builds come to mind when you think about builds that can ignore a lot of troubling map mods and such?

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:20 PM

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summoner

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mines

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traps?

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maybe brands idk

rare rose Apr 9, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Yeah, might be a carrion golem start for me if the patch notes are tame.

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last couple leagues I had build envy seeing people with other starters be able to trivialize league content with other builds.. and I hate to re-roll until I at least get pretty well into red maps and a couple awakener kills

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:29 PM

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this league looks like it might be group play friendly

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even with random people

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weird and cool

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 3:30 PM

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i want to try steel skills next league

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so they'll prolly get massive fuckt

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:34 PM

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what i am inclined towards, currently, is something that stuns the entire wave and keeps them stunned

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possibly consecrated path

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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sour mountain what i am inclined towards, currently, is something that stuns the entire wave a...

cold damage my dude

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stun was nerfed

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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glacial hammer is a good idea too yes

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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cold damage claps cheeks and works well with double/triple dipping builds

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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winter orb CWC ice nova maybe

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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phys -> lightning -> cold

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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the new atziri staff drops from regular atziri or uber?

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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i always like playing glacial cascade but i would prefer pbaoe

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:35 PM

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im gonna do cold conversion minions

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then later phys->lightning->cold conversion brands

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:36 PM

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for freeze shenanigans im defo going for creeping frost cultist chan

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:36 PM

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which minion has the best AOE skills?

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carrion golem has some neato AOE swipes and might be doable

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:36 PM

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FAS @sour mountain

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Frost Auto Scouts

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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oh you just made me think of!

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the effigy dudes that are a kitava minion

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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they also have innate cold conversion so you wont need triad grip

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wickermen

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they got hard nerfed

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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well currently targeting carrion golems but if they are nerfed ill just go straight into brands

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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yeah i thought so

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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OR

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new spectres

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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carrion golems seem like they would be fairly straightforward, not dependent on doing anything too fancy, can fit into a variety of minion based builds

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:37 PM

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if they exist

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btw

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+1 spectre chests are drop only mod so

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tehy gonna be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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ssince no more infinite duping via einhar

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:38 PM

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i play ssf so i think spectre might be a skip then 😦

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:38 PM

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@sour mountain not necessarily

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:38 PM

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sure, i could aisling lab it

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:38 PM

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if you get a femur of the saints you can get 4 spectres

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 3:38 PM

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CI spectre wil be painful. lifebase probably ok but still super expensive chests

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:38 PM

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i think i'll be better off if i go for golems

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i always like skelly + carrion golem

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:39 PM

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i want to know what spells are atziri's staff supposed to cast

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:39 PM

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very comfortable to play them

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they are supposed to cast the spells Atziri casts, i believe

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:39 PM

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which flameblast and storm call however?

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she has two of them

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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they might jsut be those, but with beefed up numbers

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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the super charged ones or the regular ones?

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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if it's super charged flameblast that'll be interesting

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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the screen filling flameblast would be mega fun

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but i know how im league starting

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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well, you can do that with flameblasts already, right?

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:40 PM

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cold dot occultist

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:41 PM

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can't go wrong with that

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freezing pulse into cold dot is comfy

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:41 PM

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well i was thinking creeping frost

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creeping frost & cold snap

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:41 PM

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when do you get creeping?

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:41 PM

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think act 1

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:42 PM

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oh they dropped it to level 12

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thats not so bad

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:42 PM

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idk tbh

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:42 PM

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still, i think you would be better off with freezing pulse until you get some dot multi

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lmp pulse is just really good feeling levelling imo

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:43 PM

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yea

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@sour mountain act1 yea

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i checked

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:44 PM

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and if you want to stick with freezing pulse until mapping, it plays comfortably with First Snow

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:45 PM

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nah

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ill atleast get a rime gaze by then

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@sour mountain right now i have three builds ready-ish

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berserker cyclone

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:48 PM

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i am leaning towards a minion guardian of some kind

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:48 PM

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atziri staff elementalist

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and cold dot occultist

sour mountain Apr 9, 2021, 3:50 PM

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cold to fire glacial cascade is also a very stable pick that i like to play

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 3:50 PM

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mines?

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or totems?

cursive gust Apr 9, 2021, 4:15 PM

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How does divine flesh work with eldritch battery and MoM

twin geyser Apr 9, 2021, 4:22 PM

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wanton bridge mines?

I say minions 🙂

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 4:24 PM

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@twin geyser i was asking Saihah about cold to fire glacial cascade

twin geyser Apr 9, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Oh. Misinterpreted it.

wanton bridge Apr 9, 2021, 4:31 PM

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no problem

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 4:51 PM

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just saw Q&A, saw only map owner will get witness

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day made

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 4:55 PM

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what were the numbers for that forced-lowlife thing? limited to 50% life from non-flask healing, 40% of incoming damage taken as DoT instead?

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:29 PM

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covert nacelle what were the numbers for that forced-lowlife thing? limited to 50% life from no...

Pretty much. The 40% of incoming damage taken as DoT only applies to damage affecting the bottom half of your life pool though. And the 40% will likely go up to 59% with gem levels but we haven't seen yet.

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:30 PM

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so bottom half of the life pool, but does it work with MoM 👀

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/mcqir3/314_league_info_megathread/gtw9p0g

Here is Mark's explanation on the mechanic

r/pathofexile - Comment by u/Mark_GGG on ”3.14 League Info Megathre...

428 votes and 743 comments so far on Reddit

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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dope

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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I think it should work with MoM in a sense

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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eh ok it sorta works.

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the redirected damage doesn't get split

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Like, any damage taken from the bottom half of your life pool

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Right

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This basically just helps you mitigate big hits with sustain, for the builds that don't want to go shavs but want to be low life with all the blood skills

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:32 PM

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so I'm assuming it only counts if the life would have been lost, which means stuff like Jinxed Juju would apply beforehand.

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yeah see I'm still not seeing that as actually viable somehow lol

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investing in life but then cutting all that investment in half seems counterintuitive, but who knows maybe it'll still be good for some reason.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:33 PM

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There are some benefits that come from never reaching full life

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Like leech effects never removing themselves, so you basically get slayer leech

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For the lower half of your life pool anyway

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:34 PM

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basically it'll only work if your recovery is absolutely insane, which y'know, fair enough.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:36 PM

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It just opens up life based or hybrid low life builds honestly

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Which is cool like, with the new essence of hysteria helmet mod and pain attunement and all these skills that cost life it'll be a fun puzzle to solve for people

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:39 PM

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well we'll have to see how much one-shot protection it ends up providing.

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 5:40 PM

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imo it sounds as good one shot protect

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will prolly be pretty pog with mom

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Enables some fun stuff with some of the items we didn't really have a good reason to use before. Replica last resort, dreadbeak, lori's lantern, etc.

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I think if the % goes up with gem levels by 1 it'll be enough to enable a low life, life build

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:41 PM

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the problem is, it cuts your life in half, which is the opposite of one shot protection.
so yeah we'll have to see where the % ends up.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Like oh you have 50% life, but 60% of your incoming damage is happening over a few seconds instead.

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:42 PM

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that'd be pretty dope

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:42 PM

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As long as you have enough recovery to survive normally that should be enough to keep you going

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It starts at 40% lvl 1, I'd imagine lvl 21 is 60% but could understand if it didn't go up that high

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:44 PM

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it'd fuck you vs strong DoT but y'know, all part of the tradeoff.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:44 PM

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I mean if you don't have enough sustain to survive the dot anyway what's the difference

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:44 PM

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half the time to react?

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Like unless the dot expires and you would normally survive with less than 50% hp it shouldn't be a huge difference maker

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Oh I don't put myself in a position where I have to like react against dots

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Life flask is always bubbling

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:46 PM

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smash bleed flask, dash out of DoT zone... eh there's use cases.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:48 PM

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There's some really strong while on low life effects though

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:48 PM

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I'm probably gonna end up doing some dumb meme shit.

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as usual.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Soul of ryslatha, the life flask charge one

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It's upgrade is 60% inc recovery from life flasks while on low life

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Lori's lantern has
Damage from Enemies Hitting you is Unlucky while you are on Low Life

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Lots of budget options here

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:51 PM

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(psst, panicked flask)

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 5:52 PM

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I can't imagine you wouldn't use bubbling most of the time here, if you're forcing low life through reservations

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Just so that it doesn't get removed once you cap out

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 5:56 PM

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unlucky means that damage of mob would roll twice and ull get hit by lowest roll

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they both could be highest rolls and both could be crit

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I don't think it rerolls crits

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but on average it's something like 10% damage reduction.

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which, honestly pretty ok

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limited hardcore viability

fading cedar Apr 9, 2021, 5:58 PM

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Is it just me or are the new skills dead on arrival?

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 5:58 PM

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occasional damage reduction 🙂

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:58 PM

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? they seem pretty decent

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assuming there's gonna be a passive tree rework to support some of the new stuff

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 5:59 PM

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better than cracling lance on release

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 5:59 PM

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kek

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honestly I'm pretty psyched to try out Reap as a DoT skill.

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 5:59 PM

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they could be as good as dark pact berz meta

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 6:00 PM

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reap looks like better reave/cleave

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:00 PM

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ill look at notables first

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:00 PM

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reave/cleave are attack-based so it's not a direct comparison but

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 6:00 PM

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oh reap is spell?

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:00 PM

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and needed one more support gem still

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:00 PM

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ye

fading cedar Apr 9, 2021, 6:01 PM

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The reap skill has a 0.8 cast time. A 0.7 cast time skill is mostly unplayable.

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 6:01 PM

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it's time for blood inquisition

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:01 PM

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I mean, as a DoT skill it doesn't matter.

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 6:01 PM

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COC REAP

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:01 PM

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yeah you could go hit-based reap ig

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maybe

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:02 PM

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coralito crit based dot could be fun

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:03 PM

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Once we see gems and new tree I'll decide if reap is playable or not

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The chaining one def has more potential to become a popular skill I'd say

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:04 PM

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pretty much this

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:04 PM

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yeah, well. as is, there's no support for it in the tree.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Personally I'll be starting reap no matter what cause I love the whole idea behind it

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You're just reaping monsters like hell yes

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:05 PM

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what if void sphere get phys dot too?

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:06 PM

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if trickster doesn't get support for reap in the passive tree I'm gonna riot

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Don't think they're changing void sphere but who knows

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:06 PM

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tentacles chaining skill could be also fun

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:06 PM

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I mean they don't typically put skills right into ascendencies right? Exception being necro since it's minions

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:06 PM

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I mean in that region of the passive tree

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but yeah

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Ohhh

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Honestly I'd be okay with it around trickster or around all the bleed stuff by duelist

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:07 PM

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phys dot in general havent any source of multiplicate, but nearby take inc phys damage

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:07 PM

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Realistically it'll get placed or included in nodes around both areas

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You can get phys dot multi?

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:08 PM

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yeah you actually can lol

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Wdym it doesn't have any sort of multiplication

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:08 PM

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clusters

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:08 PM

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it's mostly clusters yeah

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Yeah but we knows it's coming on the tree they already said it is, ontop of clusters and regular jewels

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Apparently some affixes are getting adjusted as well

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It'll be playable

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Meta or strong? Doubtful, but it'll be playable

fading cedar Apr 9, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Another thing I don't really get is corrupting blood. It's a spell, but modifiers to spell damage do NOT apply. So only physical and DoT apply (and maybe bleeding?)

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:09 PM

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I think the confusion here is you said "You can get phys dot multi?" and people were like "of course you can" when you meant "uhh no, you can get phys dot multi right?"

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:10 PM

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ok, ithave stave node, axe node, sword node and tricksters dot multi

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:10 PM

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dude

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tree rework

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Downfall — Today at 9:03 PM
Once we see gems and new tree I'll decide if reap is playable or not
Id-deal plays tricks on — Today at 9:04 PM
pretty much this

covert nacelle Apr 9, 2021, 6:12 PM

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fading cedar Another thing I don't really get is corrupting blood. It's a spell, but modifier...

you mean Corrupting Fever? I think it's a decent pair with Reap for free DoT scaling damage.

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:12 PM

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fading cedar Another thing I don't really get is corrupting blood. It's a spell, but modifier...

I'm pretty sure it's been clarified that it is not bleeding

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:12 PM

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covert nacelle you mean Corrupting Fever? I think it's a decent pair with Reap for free DoT sca...

Corrupting fever applies corrupting blood

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Corrupting blood is changing to 10 stack limit

fading cedar Apr 9, 2021, 6:15 PM

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And flasks that remove bleeding also remove corrupting blood 🤔

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Yeah they're like clarifying it all now, to make it clear that it isn't a bleed the bleed mods are getting a line for corrupting blood

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:20 PM

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crimson dance against weapon swap ensnaring arrow - 95% of damage

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 6:22 PM

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What

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Are you talking about a bleed build?

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:22 PM

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yep

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melee bleed

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against bosses who use tp, have unwavering stance and only staying at place without moving

quasi siren Apr 9, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Have they mentioned if you can go to your H/O between waves to do a trade? Or once you start an Ultimatum, are you locked into finishing before you can do a trade?

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:29 PM

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i think on map u locked on pause between waves

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so trade quite impossible till the end

quasi siren Apr 9, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Shucks. Oh well. Minor inconvenience.

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:31 PM

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u still could finish fast with trash rewards

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opportunity cost

quasi siren Apr 9, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Just don't crash! Haha.

hollow mason Apr 9, 2021, 6:32 PM

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yeah, exactly

paper flare Apr 9, 2021, 7:11 PM

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It's like mini heists

bold basalt Apr 9, 2021, 10:08 PM

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just dont trade

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 10:49 PM

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anyone thought about mahuxotl. how does corrupted soul + divine flesh work together?!?! does corrupted soul win for the way damage is handled?

violet nymph Apr 9, 2021, 10:49 PM

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no clue on how it works.

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it's something that needs actual testing

slender temple Apr 9, 2021, 10:50 PM

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that item

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i want to learn more haha

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 2:27 AM

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if i have phys taken as ele with the new Petrified Blood, and i get hit by phys, would i take ele dot?

languid path Apr 10, 2021, 2:28 AM

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petrified blood does not care about what type of dmg you take, only how much life you are going to lose after all dmg calculation is done

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 2:30 AM

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i know but would i end up taking a pure phys dot or some ele? like does it check before or after conversion? I’d assume after

languid path Apr 10, 2021, 2:31 AM

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petrified blood is not a dot, it is not damage in anyway, it does not have any dmg type

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 2:31 AM

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er..

languid path Apr 10, 2021, 2:32 AM

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and it is after all dmg calculation, so yes it will be after dmg shift is done

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 2:32 AM

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the damage you take is spread out over 4 seconds. thats not a dot with a duration of 4 seconds?

silver kettle Apr 10, 2021, 2:33 AM

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no

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 2:33 AM

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hm.

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well at least i know its still converted

languid path Apr 10, 2021, 2:33 AM

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it's more accurate is describe it as "the health you would lose"

silver kettle Apr 10, 2021, 2:33 AM

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the damage is calculated, and then instead of losing the life from that damage instantly you lose a portion over 4 seconds

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 2:33 AM

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odd. aiite

silver kettle Apr 10, 2021, 2:34 AM

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it's not an aura

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making it apply to nearby allies would be...problematic

violet nymph Apr 10, 2021, 2:38 AM

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how does all this stuff work with ES

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if you use petrified blood can you still have an ES globe over your life

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i.e would a hybrid inquis setup be strong or not strong

languid path Apr 10, 2021, 2:39 AM

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ye, but it does nothing unless the dmg that you would take would delete all your ES and dmg the 50% of your life

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even then only the portion of dmg not mitigated by es would actually be affected by petrified blood

next epoch Apr 10, 2021, 2:50 AM

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silver kettle the damage is calculated, and then instead of losing the life from that damage i...

Huh. It's like... the mirror image of Vaal Pact

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Vaal Pact: when you hit things, you gain life instantly instead of over time
Petrified Blood: when things hit you, you lose life over time instead of instantly

carmine canopy Apr 10, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Reverse Leech

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or, if you play League of Legends, it's like getting a Death's Dance

covert nacelle Apr 10, 2021, 3:34 AM

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hm.. if you take a hit with Petrified Blood, then gain ES, will you still lose life or would it go through the ES instead?

languid path Apr 10, 2021, 3:40 AM

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petrified blood is not dmg, it does not interact with es

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you simply lose the life, like how when you use a skill with blood magic it wont interact with es

wanton rivet Apr 10, 2021, 3:52 AM

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petrified blood + first to strike seems like a crazy engine

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Oh hey, they added Moratorium from Diablo III to Path of Exile https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Moratorium

Although PoE certainly needed it a lot more due to much greater penalty for dying and more one-shot scanarios

Diablo Wiki

Moratorium

Moratorium | Diablo Wiki | Fandom

next epoch Apr 10, 2021, 4:10 AM

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vast gazelle Apr 10, 2021, 4:15 AM

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yeah im glad to see it

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really enjoyable playstyle

fading cedar Apr 10, 2021, 10:41 AM

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What's the deal with non-ES Low Life anyway?

fading cedar Apr 10, 2021, 10:42 AM

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wanton rivet petrified blood + first to strike seems like a crazy engine

I think any form of life recovery other than flasks is nullified

cunning blade Apr 10, 2021, 12:19 PM

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yea it is

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first to strike wont work with it unless u decide to use a flask to go over low life and drop back down

wanton rivet Apr 10, 2021, 12:20 PM

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fading cedar I think any form of life recovery other than flasks is nullified

adrenaline triggers pretty much every time u flask if u have ways to bring it down

rancid hull Apr 10, 2021, 2:21 PM

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So will Golden Reflection now have a random chance to drop??

devout osprey Apr 10, 2021, 2:22 PM

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atziris reflection u mean?

rancid hull Apr 10, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Yes.

atomic heart Apr 10, 2021, 2:22 PM

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no.

devout osprey Apr 10, 2021, 2:22 PM

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no because its upgraded by prophecies

rancid hull Apr 10, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Ok. Thanks. That is what I thought.

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Well, I think I've just finished all of what I want to do with my Ritual character now. Got my Unnatual Instinct from defering, not much else in my deferal list is worth much, and I just completed a temple as well.

lucid stone Apr 10, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Bloodthirst support would not work with spectral shield throw, right?

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Why wouldn't it?

wind sundial Apr 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Because spectral shield throw doesn't use your weapon damage

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And Bloodthirst specifies weapon damage

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I believe?

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Ah

thick cosmos Apr 10, 2021, 7:10 PM

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any1 got some decent leaguestarter guides for this "exangunate" ability :D? it looks really cute i wanna try it out ❤️

eager charm Apr 10, 2021, 7:16 PM

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we cant plan for what isnt released yet

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wait until patch notes

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Given how they're adding multiple life-spending abilities, do you think we'll get any passive nodes on those?

wind sundial Apr 10, 2021, 7:18 PM

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They have said there's going to be passive tree changes

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So we'll see

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 7:39 PM

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There used to only be 2 Brand skills but there were still passives related to those. And there's going to be more than 2 skills with Life costs now. Plus there are supports that allow you to give anything a life cost.

thick cosmos Apr 10, 2021, 7:40 PM

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i like the concept of life cost instead of mana and keeping my mana to reserve for auras 😄

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i wanna do a full leech slayer and go nuts with auras lol

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Conversely, it might be viable for my Archmage Witch to reserve life instead of mana for her Discipline. Depends on how much Arrogance increases aura effect.

spare axle Apr 10, 2021, 8:18 PM

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so, how does agnostic work with petrified blood ?

slender temple Apr 10, 2021, 8:33 PM

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i think they said it drains the mana nonstop

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soo i imagine diviniation distilliate wil be easier to use ?

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😄

spare axle Apr 10, 2021, 8:48 PM

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: (

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rip

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would have loved to go LL with agnostic

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though just maybe I can achieve it still

ember lodge Apr 10, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Replace it with overleech

sharp valley Apr 10, 2021, 10:01 PM

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technically dont need overleech since you are never full health?

gleaming peak Apr 10, 2021, 10:12 PM

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I think that’s correct

ember lodge Apr 10, 2021, 10:34 PM

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What I meant is that since you are always at 50% hp, your leech effects don't turn off. So it's a 'free' pseudo-overleech effect on petrifying blood.

vast gazelle Apr 10, 2021, 10:41 PM

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Yeah honestly this seems big for mf tbh

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Guaranteed divination distillate

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The challenge is allocating agnostic

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Isn't there a unique body armor that gives a random keystone?

tawny pasture Apr 10, 2021, 11:28 PM

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yup

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the one from chalupa

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 11:51 PM

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vast gazelle The challenge is allocating agnostic

If you don't have anything already planned for your body armour slot, you could use Skin of the Lords with The Agnostic rolled on it to save yourself needing to path to Agnostic https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Skin_of_the_Lords

Path of Exile Wiki

Skin of the Lords

Skin of the LordsSimple RobeQuality: +20%Movement Speed: -3%Item has no level requirement and Energy Shield (Hidden)Sockets cannot be modified+1 to Level of Socketed Gems100% increased Global DefencesYou can only Socket Corrupted Gems in this itemItem has 6 Sockets and is fully linked (Hidden)CorruptedThe Lords are chosen so carefully.Only they ...

vast gazelle Apr 10, 2021, 11:51 PM

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sharp iron If you don't have anything already planned for your body armour slot, you could ...

true but alot of mf go greeds embrace

sharp iron Apr 10, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Ah, makes sense

violet nymph Apr 11, 2021, 12:06 AM

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sharp valley technically dont need overleech since you are never full health?

correct, mark said this is the case

dry kindle Apr 11, 2021, 1:18 AM

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damn im so excited for popcorn zombies with that low life buff

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will be doing 2mill dps on a budget

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 1:27 AM

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popcorn golems 😄 if not nerfed

dry kindle Apr 11, 2021, 1:29 AM

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yea was thinking that too, can't decide

sharp valley Apr 11, 2021, 1:33 AM

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exsanguinate is breaking my head as in how i would even make a character with it...

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is not a projectile, but can chain, consumes life not mana, physical DoT not bleed

dry kindle Apr 11, 2021, 1:34 AM

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the war banners and melee auras should be great for it

ember lodge Apr 11, 2021, 1:34 AM

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and it's on hit damage too

dry kindle Apr 11, 2021, 1:35 AM

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maybe even somehow get it to poison too

covert nacelle Apr 11, 2021, 1:55 AM

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theres probably going to be support for it on the tree

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and we were already teased phys dot multi on weapons

tawdry heron Apr 11, 2021, 3:12 AM

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im really wanting to know if the dot from reap is going to be considered an ailment

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and if it can be converted, since its just labeled as Physical Damage over time and is not a bleed

sharp valley Apr 11, 2021, 3:31 AM

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it shouldnt since it should work like soulrend

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wich is also not an ailment

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similar with creeping frost

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 3:36 AM

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sharp valley is not a projectile, but can chain, consumes life not mana, physical DoT not ble...

youd just as likely focus on hits

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either could be good

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 3:36 AM

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tawdry heron and if it can be converted, since its just labeled as Physical Damage over time ...

no conversion works afaik

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you cant convert wintertide with cold to fire etc.

tawdry heron Apr 11, 2021, 3:36 AM

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true

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probably wont focus on the dot then

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on it

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unless the new stuff on skill tree for phys dot is good

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 3:42 AM

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yeah

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@tawdry heron think of exsanguinate as a physical arc

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with some dot stuff stapled on

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arc chains but isnt a proj

tawdry heron Apr 11, 2021, 3:43 AM

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im talking about reap here

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not exsanguinate

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 5:04 AM

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oh sorry

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i misread

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that was at roonike

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Guys, I found something while rewatching the Ultimatum reworks

cunning blade Apr 11, 2021, 5:52 AM

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?

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 5:52 AM

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The flavor text for Winged Blighted Scarab references the Heart of Blight boss that never made it into the game

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This might be the update that finally adds it.

cunning blade Apr 11, 2021, 5:54 AM

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go post it on reddit vanity

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free karma

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 5:54 AM

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Don't really use that site anymore but okay

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If you don't know, Cassia has lines in-game where she theorizes there must be a source of the Blight, and people have datamined unused voice lines for a Heart of Blight boss fight.

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I'm trying to find the exact lines right now

next epoch Apr 11, 2021, 5:58 AM

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sharp iron If you don't know, Cassia has lines in-game where she theorizes there must be a ...

https://oriath.net/League/Blight/Cassia/#CassiaTheBlightHeart

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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Found it!

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 6:00 AM

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maybe they wil finish this quest line in poe2

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 6:01 AM

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This is the update where they are revising previous leagues. Seems like the perfect time for me.

maiden coral Apr 11, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Not just this update imo, this year seems like a step towards breathing life towards everything

sour mountain Apr 11, 2021, 9:05 AM

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if you can now corrupt the blighted maps maybe you'll be able to corrupt into the heart of blight

north dragon Apr 11, 2021, 9:13 AM

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time to get that double mirror

maiden coral Apr 11, 2021, 9:15 AM

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it has to state you sac a mirror sadly

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 10:19 AM

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When the double mirror thing dropp as good as a mirror itself, good luck finding one 😄

marsh wyvern Apr 11, 2021, 10:26 AM

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GL finding anything higher than an alch to sac

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 10:28 AM

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Not like an exalt is that difficult to find

cunning blade Apr 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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also apparently sincr every1 has different rewards

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im gonna assume every1 has different sacrifice in parties

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and if u die, ur team cant salvage ur mirror kekw

marsh wyvern Apr 11, 2021, 10:48 AM

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@zenith warren ex are quite rare unless u are playing like 12+ hours a day just farming. its not the exalt itself we are talking about btw. the currency sac thing in ultimatum is what im speaking of. if you think the sac exalt thing is gonna be common, you must be new to poe

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Ye, since exalted dropp as rare as mirrors

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templarLul

marsh wyvern Apr 11, 2021, 11:30 AM

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ex rare as mirrors? im confused

frosty forge Apr 11, 2021, 11:48 AM

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cunning blade also apparently sincr every1 has different rewards

actually in the Q&A chris said that with inscribed ultimatums all the party member play for that single reward, for a single person.
there is not a separate sacrifice for everyone

cunning blade Apr 11, 2021, 11:54 AM

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oh

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interesting

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so can hire some op dude to safe guard ur 1 mirror gamble

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🤡

red jackal Apr 11, 2021, 12:08 PM

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and then it'll drop free for all

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(they're in some remove-only "stash" like ritual rewards I think though)

final dagger Apr 11, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Do we know if reflect is gonna be a possible mod on ultimatum encounters?

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 12:22 PM

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north dragon time to get that double mirror

time to lose mirror to instance crash

cunning blade Apr 11, 2021, 2:43 PM

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final dagger Do we know if reflect is gonna be a possible mod on ultimatum encounters?

highly doubt it

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they would never put in a mod that 99% of players affected cant reliable build a counter against, like for simulacrum

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only instances of reflect now are outdated content ( atziri and lab ) or content u can control if reflect is rolled ( maps )

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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doubt ultimatum would be that good

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but hey, have been wrong before

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don't forget to farm coast and tidal island ultimatum in first hour for 10 tabulas

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i know i'll try it

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 3:57 PM

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They should slap it onto the twilight strand, so you can farm uber hillock with it

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templarLul

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 3:59 PM

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tbh i wouldn't mind that

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Dont know if there is anything more boring than farming uber hillock

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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i wouldnt do it

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id just buy the sword for levelling

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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well

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if i ever played an SSF league id do it again

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oni goroshi is insanely op for low investment

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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15-20 hours farm?

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templarLul

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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took me 17 hours total when i did it the one time

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Dunno really about ssf, dont play it

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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when i started playing poe that is . someone told me about this item that was "too hard for me to get" and im like *** please i used to spend days in one spot in everquest trying to get an item killing something every 15 minutes

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Can you trade between your char with ssf?

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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getting oni hooked me on poe and also cuz poe is great

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SSF is separate league

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so all stashes are separate

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you can trade between your own chars that are inside that league

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but not with other players or your chars and stashes in other leagues

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Then goroshi farm isnt that bad

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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@violet nymph no idea aht that is. ragnarok online?

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ive heard of it

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Since you can with 4 chars

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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yeah

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oni is fine

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its a 6 link weapon that scales all the way up to level 100

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ewww

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Dunno i just farm insane in the membrane in wow, that is enough for me

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templarLul

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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i like poe method

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all instanced

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competing only in build efficiency and currency gathering

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:22 PM

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so if i understood the trailer right

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ultimatum is basically ritual with more steps but less rewards?

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:23 PM

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i mean in the time you farm oni, you can level to maps, and craft better weapon altogether

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM

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gray ravine so if i understood the trailer right

id say MORE rewards

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because

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you get a rewards for every round you complete

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM

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bold basalt i mean in the time you farm oni, you can level to maps, and craft better weapon ...

you dont get a smartass lady ~~with a sultry voice~~ making comments 3 times an act though

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM

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in ritual you might get 1-4 rewards or 0 if you were deferring

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I consider that a boon

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goddess is terribly written

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:24 PM

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but you're getting shit rewards. in ritual you defer stuff you want

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:25 PM

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well

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:25 PM

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i actually levelled with oni recently, and I cringed everytime there was a voiceline

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:25 PM

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you kind of have choice in ultimatum too

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you can stop anytime and cash out

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:25 PM

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idk, in the trailer it looked like the rewards were garbage

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random 2 socket rares or something

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:27 PM

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shrug ritual was mostly garbage too just like most of hte gacha mechanics. you gotta grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind to get the good stuff

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:27 PM

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If you are lucky

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:27 PM

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ritual was pretty sucky that you had to do it multiple times and monsters spawned so slowly

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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i didnt like the "well you deffered this item" but we dont show it to you for 20 rituals

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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oh ye

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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i stil lhave a fated connections and a few other high value items lost in the defer pipeline

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no motivation to make them appear

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:28 PM

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i have bunch of 6links deferred

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on character i stopped playing

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week after start

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:29 PM

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6 links are basically a divine anyway

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:29 PM

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not in first week

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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o lol i only got 1+ hours a day of gametime so by the time im getting 6 links they're worth a divine XD

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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no more infinite duping means market gonina be quite different in 3.14

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random bases that are sortof good might actually sell

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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infinite duping?

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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there will still be fractured fossils

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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yeah infinite duping

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for the next 2 days

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you can go to einhar

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and he will help you dupe magic items

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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you mean splitting?

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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yes

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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big brain time: get delver ready, sell fractured fossils

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for 5ex a piece

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:30 PM

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with fenumal plagued arachnids

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craicic chimeral

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the STD market for duping legacy bases just died. those guys probably madly scrambling now to make a dupe inventory

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:31 PM

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i like that they made temples a sellable item tho

tender tusk Apr 11, 2021, 4:31 PM

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duping involves splitting

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:31 PM

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no more sitting in base for hours trying to sell a temple

tender tusk Apr 11, 2021, 4:31 PM

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it's not the same thing though

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:31 PM

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fractured fossils still exist tho

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synthesis bases

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like explody bow are gonna be even better

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:32 PM

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yes

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:32 PM

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5 scarab maps are gonna be fracture fossiled too

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:33 PM

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huh, so ultimatum is gonna add mods to a map already juiced up on mods

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fk my life

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:33 PM

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just play aoe supression build

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like summoner

gray ravine Apr 11, 2021, 4:33 PM

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i hate summoners

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:33 PM

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do you love loot more ? 😄

livid oasis Apr 11, 2021, 4:33 PM

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when do we get the patch notes?

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:33 PM

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tuesady sowek

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:34 PM

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summoners puke

livid oasis Apr 11, 2021, 4:34 PM

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ty

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that was quick response

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:34 PM

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manifesto tomrororw

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chall rewards today

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:34 PM

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just gonna do steel skill champion if it doesnt get too nerfed

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drop bunch of steel turrets and gg

zenith warren Apr 11, 2021, 4:39 PM

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They should slap rewards at the end and patchnotes today

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Who cares about challenge right now?

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:42 PM

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get people excited

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idk

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this is what they have done every pre league

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 4:44 PM

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i'd rather see patch notes/manifesto over the weekend

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so I can watch content about it over the weekend

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 4:49 PM

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same

bold basalt Apr 11, 2021, 5:15 PM

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it does make sense from hype pov that they release more interesting stuff closer to league start though

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 5:20 PM

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well

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we have "something" everyday until launch

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starting today

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so the hype trai will keep moving

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Guys! I just realized something

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Heart of the Grove is being converted into a fragment you can find and then use in the map device to bring you to the fight, instead of something you randomly encounter

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And the Incursion temple is also itemizable, activated in the map device now.

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:14 PM

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ok?

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:14 PM

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This means you can theoretically have the Maven witness the Heart of the Grove and Omnitect fights

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:15 PM

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maybe

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probably not

devout osprey Apr 11, 2021, 9:15 PM

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dont give them ideas

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:16 PM

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nuless they do

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oshabi-omnicect-3head guy

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as new invitation

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:16 PM

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You can have her witness breachstones and other fragments, so she should be able to witness the Heart of the Grove fight

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:17 PM

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pale council should eb included too then

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right after they PUT THE PALE COUNCIL MUSIC IN THE HIDE OUT MUSIC PLAYER peepoFloorCry

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PepeHands

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:19 PM

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If I were GGG, I replace "The Forgotten" Maven's Invitation with "The Corrupted", and have it be vaal-themed encounters instead of Synthesis encounters. Then when Atziri gets moved from The Feared to that, put Heart of the Grove in The Feared to replace her.

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:21 PM

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oshabi doesnt belong in the feared. she can be instant killed with 0 risk

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Oh

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:21 PM

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oshabi is a joke

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i did the oshabi part of egg this league

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i never even saw her mechanics

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she just landed on the ground

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and instantly expoded into loot

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I didn't know because she was one boss I never fought

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:22 PM

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basicalyl its a dps test

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if you have enough

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you can skip the entire fight

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she could be included wiht pale council in like "The others, fine ill collect them too"

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i like your idea of vaal invitation though

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now that thre are 3 itemized vaal boss fights

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roomba, quad and 3head

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hmm

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1, ?, 3, 4

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kind of like delve nodes !

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so then delve bosses shoudl get witnessed too

sharp iron Apr 11, 2021, 9:49 PM

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It doesn't really make sense for Delve bosses to be witnessable

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 9:49 PM

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do they not matter

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;\

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 9:59 PM

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they are in your wraeclast

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not in the atlas

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 10:01 PM

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oh

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OH

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good point

carmine vigil Apr 11, 2021, 10:02 PM

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cant they make fragments for them tho?

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after you kill them in delves they drop fragments for atlas to get them witnessed

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 10:34 PM

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i guess they could btu thats what theyd have to do

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 10:36 PM

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i think it would be pretty awesome to itemize those

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some of htem woudl be impossible tho

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like the depth 2k auls haha

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but still awesome

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imagine maven witnessing depth 6k aul

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TWINS

carmine vigil Apr 11, 2021, 10:49 PM

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lol

vast gazelle Apr 11, 2021, 10:53 PM

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ok

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im now on board

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but only if she witnesses at the strength of the depth

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 10:54 PM

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yes agreed

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and with the mods

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from that area

carmine vigil Apr 11, 2021, 10:58 PM

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what if you can get the min depth one witnessed and the deeper ones in the same invitation because its 2 difficulty

slender temple Apr 11, 2021, 11:11 PM

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well invitations are fixed level

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not related to the tier of boss we witnessed

carmine vigil Apr 11, 2021, 11:32 PM

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ah rip

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~~imagine 10 delve bosses~~

red wharf Apr 12, 2021, 12:04 AM

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hey, I'm looking at 2 new skill gems, exsanguinate and reap, second one seems to be so much stronger looking at dmg numbers of hit/dot, what's the appeal of exa skill there? Surely chain tag doesn't solely explain it?

cunning blade Apr 12, 2021, 12:04 AM

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clear it seems

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no idea if it will be any good though

red wharf Apr 12, 2021, 12:06 AM

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can't be.. reap is 58-87 hit/120.2 dot vs exa 13-19 hit / 17.7 up to triple dot

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so roughly reap is 192.7 dps, exa at 3 stacks 69.1 dps

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orb of storm is 3-5 targets, depending of gem level, am I reading it right? https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Orb_of_Storms

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(for comparison, lvl1 exsa is 7 targets)

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i took numbers from lvl1 gems

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unless you mean requirement level? Does it affect anything?

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but how does it affect their dmg/leveling?

covert nacelle Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 AM

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because a level 1 req level 1 gem is different from a level 1 req level 38 gem.

slender temple Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 AM

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or the awkened gems which have an even higher req level at leve 1

covert nacelle Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 AM

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like.. compare essence drain level 1 to bane level 1.
you know that ED does more damage than Bane, but if they're both at level 1, bane outdamages ED.

red wharf Apr 12, 2021, 12:49 AM

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so early level req gem scales up faster?

vast gazelle Apr 12, 2021, 12:59 AM

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early level gems are given in a1 or a2

sharp iron Apr 12, 2021, 12:59 AM

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vast gazelle they are in your wraeclast

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said it doesn't make sense for them to be witnessable by the Maven. Thanks for explaining that.

vast gazelle Apr 12, 2021, 12:59 AM

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so their level 1 bases are lower to compensate

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so level 1 reap compares more favorably to (we dont have the numbers but probably) level 5 or 6 exsanguinate, for example

next epoch Apr 12, 2021, 2:10 AM

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red wharf so early level req gem scales up faster?

depends on what you mean by "faster". gems that you acquire early on in the campaign take much less experience to reach level 2, but you're also gaining a lot less experience (numerically) at that point so it kind of balances out

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the total experience required to go from gem level 1 to 20 is roughly the same though, iirc

violet nymph Apr 12, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Yeah, its easier to compare their numbers against skills of the same level bracket

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Since we only have level 1 data right now

vast gazelle Apr 12, 2021, 4:11 AM

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oh huh

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controlled destruction is a link

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that should work

formal jewel Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 AM

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Okay so ultimatum is dis
You go in
you kill stuff
and either you leave for a reward
or keep fighting monsters with modifiers for a better one

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is that it?

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Its like a harder ritual to me

next epoch Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 AM

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yeah, that's about the shape of it

formal jewel Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Clear speed and survivability are two things imma go for so yee

next epoch Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 AM

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oh, actually, I think the rewards are cumulative -- you keep fighting for additional rewards, not just a better one

carmine vigil Apr 12, 2021, 5:20 AM

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mhm

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it stacks ontop of first wave i believe