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[storm crown]

That boss is horrible 😉

[left elbow]

Did rituals get stealth nerfed or has my rng really tanked? In the first week I had an exalted orb, a fated connections, other solid rares that sold for 25-50c, etc. This week I haven’t deferred a single item. Best items I’ve gotten has been a couple t15 harbinger maps, and I chain t14-16 maps for a couple hours every evening.

Is it just me?

[signal swan]

I've never gotten a fated connection, and only two exalts, one currently on deferral, and some shitty 6Ls.
It's just luck.

[left elbow]

Wtb some of that sweet streamer rng

[rigid stream]

Just a coincidence

[half panther]

Do rituals actually give more tribute if I kill the map boss first and then do them? I keep hearing this from some people and it feels rather odd to me to have to backtrack just to make the best out of the league mechanic

[rigid stream]

It might? Its a Bit hard to track, but so far it seems that the gain is pretty random and its usually Not Worth to backtrack

[half panther]

👍

[naive forum]

Does the Sanguine ritual spawn somewhere specific or am I unlucky. 18 watchstones in still missing that one.

[tawny pasture]

only 18 ?

you are just unlucky

[bold basalt]

maybe the completion is not getting granted to you

[dusty umbra]

@signal swan how many maps uve ran? Ive seen about 5-6 ex x1 and fated twice

[slate stratus]

how do I get the thing in the middle of my atlas that gets maven to witness the boss kills

[spare imp]

Any consensus on best Uncharted Realms nodes?

or, a tier list?

[cunning blade]

@slate stratus u need to fight all 4 shaper guardians or elder guardians

maven will witness them even without the uncharted realm unlocked

uncharted only unlocks when u finish one of its 6 invitations

and the guardians are the easiest ones

[proud raptor]

I deferred an exalt earlier today and I'm planning on making a new character. Should I just play until I get it or do different characters not interefer with one another when it comes to rituals?

[left aurora]

just got maven to witness enough bosses to get to 10... does she not automatically drop that invitation or am i missing something?

[violet nymph]

bug

[sharp falcon]

the next boss kill in that region should drop the invitation (bug fix)

[honest vapor]

is there any bonus for doing unidentified maven invitations

[next epoch]

Each character has their own set of deferred items.

[agile verge]

For Tirns end whats best for skills after the Einhard stuff? Cant decide if Invasion or Delirium is way to go

[low eagle]

Is there a list of the loot pool for the ritual altars?

[strange minnow]

delirium obv

[rigid idol]

She do not automatically drop after 10 bosses

[patent dust]

Who does this ground debuff that slows me and silences my dash? Its pretty annoying..

[patent dust]

Im still hoping they'd add something we can keep track if deferred items is still active or gone.

[gentle sapphire]

Damn I’m pissed lol

Best thing outta my ritual has been 5c

[undone lance]

weird. i did a map which procced monstrous treasure and no rituals showed up

i guess the mapgen had trouble placing them between all the steong boxes?

[gentle sapphire]

Yeah probs what map was it

[eager terrace]

I thought the patch made it so she did drop the first 10 boss guaranteed

"Maven's Invitations are now a guaranteed drop upon capturing the 10th boss in an Atlas region for the first time."

[upbeat turtle]

Does the level of a map effect the rewards from the altars??

Seems like a dumb question but I swear if I do like a t5-8 map I’m getting better rolls in the tribute than I would in t14 maps

[cloud heath]

how do you get the central citadel?

i thought you had to defeat the maven itself, but maybe its by doing all the quests on the right panel?

[rigid stream]

You have to do one of the Special invitatons

[raw zodiac]

Guys what do you think are the best nodes on uncharted realms

[smoky steppe]

Is there a way to bring all of a rituals rewards to a new map not meaning defer

[tawny plover]

no

[smoky steppe]

I small brain finally bought the exalt I had been defering and looked under it after and its "The doctor" x2 that I can no longer afford to defer lol

Can I refund the exalt lol

[prime rapids]

At least you had the chance. I keep getting fucked over and only getting 2k tribute per map.

If I'm struggling to clear t8 maps why the fuck is mervail or whatever her name is dropping me t16 minotaur maps after a crucible?
GIVE ME SOMETHING USEFULL YOU FUCK

[blissful plaza]

Do I need to kill different bosses in order to acquire uncharted realm talent points? Killing the guardians over and over again would not work?

[atomic arrow]

You need to do the uncharted realms invitations.
They do drop from the guardians though.

[bold basalt]

i did 2 maps after like a week

and now i am pulling 3k tribute per map instead of like 8k

[livid pecan]

is there any counterplay to the maven heal? can it be prevented at all? other than just "kill the boss faster"

is there an ability to lowers healing taken by enemies? or anything at all other than "reroll"

[gentle sapphire]

Try frost bomb

@livid pecan

[livid pecan]

does that work through boss immune stages

[bold basalt]

no

[quiet moss]

so if i deferred item on tier 12 map can it show up on lower tiers? cause i deferred some juicy 6 link and 30 maps later still didnt show up

[rigid stream]

Yes it can appear in any Zone on that char

[cosmic edge]

How do I revert map tree points?

7c each? Holy!

[bold basalt]

they drop semi often

[cosmic edge]

Have never seen one

[bold basalt]

well, i said sami often

[cosmic edge]

Indeed

[bold basalt]

but mostly from the fights maven sponsors

[cosmic edge]

I mean... I've already got like 5 exalts from drop

And none of this

[bold basalt]

you got pretty lucky

[cosmic edge]

Yeah, luck cannot be measured, unfortunately

Loos like heists are giving decent-awesome rewards, but is pretty boring to do so

Specially when items like this keeps stuck into my inventory

Do I need to sacrifice a baby in a ritual or something like that? ROFL

[bold basalt]

i did like 5 heists in the entirety of this league

might as well remove it

or merge it with delve

no reason to keep it since it's currently the worst designed content in the game

[marble quest]

you need to turn in quest items to the npcs

[blissful plaza]

I did total 3-4 uncharted realms invitations with shaper and elder guardians, only got 4 talent points, doing next invitation doesn't grant talent points anymore

[next epoch]

You can drop the Heist quest items in any non-town area, and get them back from the Heist NPC when you need them

[atomic arrow]

There are other types of invitations.

The Maven's Writ also grants 2 points

[blissful plaza]

Okay I see now, the invitations have to be different

[dusty umbra]

breach lords/synth/elder guardians/shaper guardians/shaper-cortex-chayula/ which one im missing here

[barren crescent]

I've not dropped a single one of those end game invitations past the launch week weirdly enough

plenty of other invis

[sage flame]

Man, finally getting to the point where Rituals regularly go past 1k totals

[versed gulch]

Someone succes to capture Jungle valley boss map on rituel ? for the challenge " complete ritual encounters V"

[barren fox]

looking for/wtb Apocalyptic Ritual site or Heart of the Grove

[open prism]

who can better?(check tribute per ritual on t16 map)

[barren crescent]

@barren fox this aint the server for that

[agile verge]

After harvest what do you guys do for Haewark Hamlet?

[mighty spruce]

Guys, if i have cannot be silenced on a jewel, can the rituals still prevent my dash?

Because ive had some pretty close calls with volatiles due to the fact it wouldnt let me dash

[storm crown]

Isnt that a root?

Or grasp as it probly is called

[gusty reef]

How do I unlock the passives for atlas?

I'm so confused

I've already completed a 100 different maps and I've seen the envoy like a million times but did nothing

I've got 100/165 completed

Ye

most of them have four watchstones

https://gyazo.com/e114889de12ed1c795e0ff9efa9cbe70

Only found out that passives are a thing like 10 min ago

lol

Yea I've got 1/3

What button?

I don't remember its been ages

Ah I do have the button

Never saw that lol

Dark

Bruhhhh

Lmao

f

I've done more like 300 but ye 😭

Okii thanks!

So basically now just do 3 maps in each region right?

How do you further get skill points?

Aight, ty ty!

[raw girder]

so a monster spawned behind the wall during a ritual, can't get to the monster, can't remove the screen lock, any known workaround for this bug?

[celest atlas]

any one got a link with the best ways to enhance the different area ?

where to put the metamoprth and where to put delirium and so on

[balmy aspen]

can i join someones maven invitation to get the passive points if i have it unlocked, or do i have to spawn it from my map device?

[hollow lava]

guys is there a trick or so because I played A LOT those 2 weeks and didnt get a single opulent ritual.... we are talking for 5 days and more played time ...

[rigid stream]

Opulent is rare

I havent Seen an Apocalyptical

[high pike]

Hey guys. In uncharted realms can you get points with just doing same invitation?

[next epoch]

Can you get all the skill points in the game by killing the Granddaddy Crab a hundred times? 🙂

[high pike]

Yeah but i don't think this work this way maybe i am wrong

coz if i look on UR i can still see guardian invitation there even tho i did it

[vast gazelle]

you cannot, you only get and can redeem each skill point quest once per character

[next epoch]

that's the point I'm making, yes

the uncharted realms skill points are each associated with completing a specific type of invitation -- not just completing any invitation in general

[vast gazelle]

so far as I know, you can only trade the invites that drop after you get 10 points in a region

[empty mauve]

Tradeable invites start dropping once you get to ten boss requirement. You don't need to complete your first ten boss arena to sell them.

Your first time capturing ten bosses in a region does guarantee a drop though.

Have like, four Lira Arthain invites despite only just today completing that atlas passive tree

[feral lantern]

1st time playing, I don't really buy items from any ritual on act 1,2 now

is it important to do ?

[vast gazelle]

nah rituals are p superfluous in story

dont worry about em till maps

[honest silo]

i just did the mavens invitation for the constictor, enslaver, etc and now it wont let me allocate points. Im unable to click the center of the arena and if i leave and come back it says complete the mavens challenge but the are all dead?

[cunning blade]

i dont think u need to actually click the thing in the middle to allocate points?

so long as u killed all the bosses in the invitation and see the loot explosion

[timber surge]

uh...weird question maybe. but what happens with deferred items if you dont interact with ritual mechanic in a map?

[eager charm]

nothing

they'll just chill until the next time you interact with rituals

[timber surge]

gotcha, thanks 🙂

[next epoch]

man, getting a bitter ritual that isn't up against a wall is actually really fun

[agile verge]

What's best map to favorite for Haewark? Atoll doesn't seem like the move for ritual since you often get tiny amounts of points due to layout

[sour mountain]

just grab currencies from rituals while you're levelling

[storm crown]

Love when you juice up a map and The first ritual gives you like 260 tribute...

[cunning blade]

atoll

if ur doing haewark, ur probably looking to speed farm for harvests

and ignoring rituals at that point like you should anyway

[lean mulch]

Is it just me, or do higher tier maps seem to provide worse Ritual loot? I feel that white/yellow maps give better Ritual rewards

[cobalt falcon]

How the mechanic you spawn 4 boss?

4 vessel on map device?

[cunning blade]

@lean mulch no, ritual is just dog shit late game

rewards didnt scale up appropriately

[half panther]

TRUEE

[dense sail]

I got like 3ex from it but im only up to t15 maps

[barren crescent]

thats 2 ex more than what I've gotten lvl 97 btw

[rigid stream]

I have gotten... 10 ex?

Lvl 89

And 88

[uncut oriole]

So, what's the deal with a) the new bases, and b) ritual types? I've only ever seen one of the bases for the challenge, and I'm still missing the Glacial rituals.

[hollow lava]

guys in order to store boss for ritual challange (phoenix + 3 other and etc) we need to take juice from ritual that was spawn and finished in the boss area only ? or can take juice from ritual outside of boss area ?

[bitter locust]

One of the rituals needs to be in the boss area for it to have "captured" the boss but once that has occurred using the vessel on any of the rituals in the zone should work

[dusty lichen]

i'm missing the 'volatile' type and seems violent is not even in the list, but i've done multiple of those
https://i.imgur.com/HzMjz7W.png

[safe hedge]

What's the point of Ritual Vessels?

[rigid stream]

To Juice your maps

[storm crown]

to get more monsters on the map

[versed gulch]

someone get Queen of the great tangle (jungle valley map) on a blood-Filled vessel for the challenge complete ritual encounters V

I think it's bug

[silent citrus]

League Question, If I only do 1 out of 3 rituals in a map, do the non revealed items "assuming they would have been Deferable items" would these hidden items increase in cost? Or do hidden items not matter unless I reveal them?

Curious cause I been full clearing every map including the main story thinking that if I skipped a ritual I'd lose a deferred item.

[polar jay]

GM, please kindly review and balance the tribute point system. I only managed to get 168 in a map! I couldnt get any items, worse, it was barely enough to defer items.

[ornate flower]

So added 4 boss ritual to a map

Best item I got was lvl 10 unique mace

Bullshit mechanic?

[rigid star]

somebody can explain me how to get uncharted realms quest done? where i can get invitation?

[opaque surge]

anyone completed sulphur vents challenge? how do we do it

[primal whale]

Are the Ritual vessels bugged? My Ritual is right next to the map boss and it didnt capture the boss (for Ritual encounters V challenge)

[eager terrace]

the vessel doesn't have the boss' name on it?

I've seen that before when I teleported out of the map to get a vessel and went back in

[signal girder]

are t16's bugged with ritual feel like i get half the points compared to 15's and 14's

[lyric orchid]

Random drop or trade. Witness each of the encounters on the invitation and complete the invitation

[marble quest]

i just used kaom's roots

[cunning blaze]

bullshit player moarliek

[prime rapids]

So do you not share defered items between characters?

[light adder]

nope

[prime rapids]

Thats stupid. Every other league mechanic is shared. Well there goes my enlighten lvl 3 gem and everything else too

[void wing]

You can still get it on that char.

Unless you deleted it ig.

[prime rapids]

I stopped playing that character because it sucked ass.

[rigid stream]

Its good to be that way

Imagine you get your 20k deferr Item on your lvl 15 char

You wont be able to get it

[prime rapids]

Thats why I completely skipped ritual in acts@rigid stream

[quick raven]

ooof just ripped all my portals to the maven breachlord fight, are all the uncharted realms invitations that hard?

[tawny pasture]

breach is one of the harder

[fallen lance]

breach is rough if you dont have the dps

[quick raven]

I couldnt even tell what was killing me, had corrupt blood immunity, 7 end charges, 5800 life, fortify, immortal call, end cry...

just the 5 of them up at the same time is just too much dmg I guess

only map mods were monster life and ailment avoid

[rotund swallow]

Hey how does it work if you skip all ritual

in an area

does it drop the loot anyways & some of your item can increase price/be lost ?

[rotund swallow]

thanks

[golden marten]

So are rituals just embarrassingly broken for anyone else?
https://gyazo.com/c0e9b07a853740e066ff63016677a6b9

This happens in every ritual.

It really feels like none of this shit was playtested

... And now the game crashed. Honestly this league has been a major letdown in terms of performance and bugs

I honestly wouldn't mind 3 4-month leagues per year instead of 4 3-month leagues if it meant that things like this didn't happen

[rigid stream]

oh no what a tragedy, mobs forget to attack you

in the endgame you want this to happen, its very easy to get 700 mobs including 6+ bosses in a single ritual

[golden marten]

Oh yeah I know, I'm not complaining about the easiness now - just saying it looks really bad on GGG's part

Combined with the texture issues and trade system meltdown

[red jackal]

eh, I get a few (1-3) of those in every other ritual. kind of very annoying to find them

they're always at the outer circle and camouflaged by the ritual

[rigid stream]

sometimes they are invisble

thats horrible^^

[heady kindle]

If you ignore ritual in a map like lets say I'm just running through to pick up sulphite deposits

can it mess up your deferred items?

[silver kettle]

not if you never click a ritual in the area

[heady kindle]

nice thanks

[prime rapids]

I swear this league is fucking stupid.
Do some generic ass map get 5k tribute
Do a map with 127 quant and 71 rarity along side a vessel and get less then 3k tribute????
Not that it matters since they don't offer me shit worth getting anyways

[next epoch]

tribute feels like it's highly dependent on how many ritual packs are able to spawn near the altar (= RNG)

[crystal plover]

Is there a write up on the best points to allocate for maven map passives?

[silver kettle]

I've also noticed that sometimes when people complain about really low tribute gain from a ritual they've just dragged the monsters outside the circle and killed them there, which means they aren't resurrected.

[next epoch]

Wait, that's a thing?

🤯

[marble quest]

yeah you can lose tribute from killing things outside the circle but not the other way around which kind of sucks

[fossil spindle]

Was wondering what's the optimal use of the ritual stocking thing ? Should I just get some random t15 boss in rituals and put them in my next map ?

Or should I save them for specific encounters ?

[sour mountain]

try to get ones from multiboss maps

so far i've found it really is just more sugar

im a casual tho so ymmv

(and try to get the challenges of course but you know that bit probably 😄 )

[tender lake]

Wtf. Why wasn't that mentioned in the reveal

And as necro. Wtf I'm boned

[sour mountain]

if you focus on standing miles away from the fight and just sending minions it might

[tender lake]

Can't really stop and start dps to make sure everything is inside. Mobs usually come outside it and my minions kill outside.

Inb4 cyclone cast while channel convocation

[unkempt dome]

can someone explain me harvest craft farming?

in which region

[young vector]

and here i am the new player reaching maps thinking i reached endgame with a boss every ritual and idk how many mobs because my skellys take a huge chunk of the screen and then i read this

[vernal isle]

Is it possible to save guardians in a vessel and then insert them into another map for more fragment drops?

[lost trench]

i just found my first special maven invitation to have her witness the elder guardian kills, do i have to have the invitation in my inventory when i kill them?

[rapid nebula]

No

[zinc forge]

They absolutely care if they die outside. To quote viper, right above the convo

I've also noticed that sometimes when people complain about really low tribute gain from a ritual they've just dragged the monsters outside the circle and killed them there, which means they aren't resurrected.

[devout osprey]

reverse knockback meta it is then

or vaal cyclone

[barren crescent]

reverse knockback crit arrow nova king of the hill tornado shot Deadeye

[pulsar condor]

Can someone explain how i get too fight Elder Guardians?

[storm crown]

I dont get why The amount of monster are so very varriedeven when packsize is pretty much The same.

[lyric shuttle]

hate this league, why dont these base types ever show up? https://i.imgur.com/S6rys0B.png

shitty buggy league

[rigid stream]

They Show Up from time to time

They are quite rare though, once every 20 -30 maps maybe

[lyric shuttle]

NEVER seen any besides the ice hat which dont even count ffs

[rigid stream]

If you reroll agressively and use vessels you get more

[sage flame]

I found a Volatile Ritual Altar in my second map; should I try to buy a Ritual Vessel to use on it before doing it?

Oh, all of them are Volatile. Not quite sure on what it means for them.

[eager terrace]

all rituals in the zone will be the same type

volatile is just one of the different ritual types; you can hover the ritual before clicking it to see what each type does

[sage flame]

I'd heard that people have gone a couple hundred hours of mapping without finding Volatile, so I thought maybe it was special/would warrant trying to get vessels for the altars

[eager terrace]

nah, when you use a vessel on a ritual all you capture are the monsters

[sage flame]

Ah. What do you do with them from there?

[eager terrace]

you can put a filled vessel in the map device

or multiple if you want

all those captured monsters are forced into the next map's rituals

you also get bonus tribute and reward quality per vessel

[sage flame]

Ah, sweet.

The rewards were literally all divination cards

[eager terrace]

yeah there are like two "tiers" of rituals

the second tier that has the fancier totems have a special reward table

they're either all div cards, all currency, or all uniques

[exotic forum]

do deferred items count against the other items that show up in ritual rewards?

ie: by having deferred items, does it causes you to get fewer new items that show up in ritual rewards?

[brave wing]

does tribute transfer from one area to the other?

[warm lodge]

Do I need to go to low level zones to find the ritual base types?

[devout osprey]

its go up.

like t13 ish should have all in my experience

[deft dune]

Are T16 Rituals still mega bad?

[pseudo pilot]

I just got a six link soul mantle after re rolling and I couldn't de4fer

pain

just pain

[violet nymph]

never reroll unless you have like 6k tribute

[pseudo pilot]

it was just while leveling through campaign

and was nothing good before

just unlucky

[cunning blade]

@deft dune yes

[barren crescent]

I keep finding t15 beachheads etc. on my T14+ rituals

quite consistently

[limpid yacht]

So, I have super expensive item in tribute. I defered it 2 times already. Is there a way to speed it up? Like spamming T1 maps, checking first ritual if item is there, if not - make new T1 maps, and so on. Is this viable?

I would like to try it, but I am afraid that I will loose that item

[left patio]

rerolling counts as a new set of rewards, if you have nothing else worth buying you can always reroll to just get one step closer to it appearing again. but make sure you'll have enough left over to defer again after the reroll cost too.

[limpid yacht]

Right! I can reroll 🙂 Forgot about this feature. Thanks 🙂

[slate summit]

Yo

is it only a chance to spawn them when you put in the ritual vessels?

i just used 4 ritual vessels with the 4 boss, but none of them spawned

[vast gazelle]

when you use the ritual vessel

you have to use it on the ritual near the boss

it only sucks up the monsters that were around the ritual before you started it

[slate summit]

Ye i did

i made sure having the boss spawn in the ritual before capturing it

but the issue was that none of the them spawned in the map where i used all 4 of them in

[vast gazelle]

hmm that shouldnt be how it behaves

weird

[graceful valley]

why are rituals so useless, they give you like no exp, the items are never any good either

[vast gazelle]

idk man

i get chaos and other usable currency regularly

and decent div cards

[graceful valley]

out here getting lucky

[limpid yacht]

I have 2 Headhunter cards from ritual, and a lot of other nice items, currency is just a small part of what I earned from it.

[tawny pasture]

i got 3-4 exalt

ritual are nice

[shrewd wasp]

i deferred an item once, it showed up and i didnt defer it, is it gone forever now?

[limpid yacht]

100% you can skip defering at least once, but dunno how many times. Generally, if you see red frame around item, it means it will not show anymore

[sharp falcon]

when u dont defer an item, it will come back as a red framed one, if u dont defer than, u lose it (the first time u just lose the previous discount, but basically u need to NOT defer TWICE an item to lose, if u deferred it previously)

[next epoch]

deferred items disappear if you skip them more times than you defer them

[hardy aurora]

does anyone know if ritual is shared between chars?

[next epoch]

it is not.

[hardy aurora]

so like if i have an expensive deferred item on one char but i start leveling another it wont lose the expensive items on the original char

[next epoch]

correct.

[hardy aurora]

wew ok thanks

[stable thorn]

is there a special requirement for malevolent rituals? only one i havent seen yet

[tawny pasture]

luck

do more map

[viscid plank]

is there any site i can check all the prefix & suffixes for platinum titanium chorium watchstones?

[languid path]

poedb

[maiden coral]

Are Ritual defers account or character based

[light adder]

char

[maiden coral]

Thanks

[unkempt briar]

Are rituals rituals?

[limber spire]

yesn't

[bitter locust]

No, rituals are mechanics. Rubbing your fusings on Kuduku for luck is a ritual

[quartz trellis]

Anyone know how to search for blood-filled vessels that have certain boss monsters in them? I've been trying to find any of the Ritual Encounters V ones up and never see any. I can find blood-filled rituals with boss monsters in them but when you search the itemized monsters for the exact same boss monster, it doesn't show up.

[next epoch]

I'm not sure those properties are currently searchable. The "Itemised Monster" type is for searching for bestiary monsters, not blood-filled vessels -- I'm not sure why boss monsters which can't be captured show up there

[quartz trellis]

They can be 'captured' in blood-filled vessels but they are currently unsearchable @next epoch

[next epoch]

no no, what I'm saying is that if you're doing a search like this, it's not finding anything because that type of search is for a different kind of item

what it does work for is searching for itemised bestiary monsters, like this:

[quartz trellis]

So the search is maybe bugged then and thinking it's a bestiary item? That could be possible. I knew what you were getting at already. My guess is the monsters in blood-filled vessels are just bugged in the search.

[next epoch]

No, what I mean is that the interesting properties of blood-filled vessels (like what map they're from or what monsters they contain) don't appear to be searchable at all. They aren't the name of the item, so you can't search for them in the main search box, and they don't show up in any of the other filters

To reiterate: The box up top only searches the names of items. It works for itemised bestiary monsters because the item is named after the monster. Blood-filled vessels are always called "blood-filled vessel" regardless of whose blood they're full of

[quartz trellis]

Ye, so it's an issue with the search engine probably. I guess I got unlucky af yesterday too when I started focusing on trying to do the challenge. I didn't see a single boss ritual after many maps. Finally saw some today.

[keen sentinel]

so i been ignoring ritual as i been trying to do atlas bonus objectives in and out. i got no idea what ritual is aside from kill stuff get loot

[hollow lava]

hey guys, if u fail to kill the feared cortex,chayla, elder etc bosses I mean If u lose all portals are u gonna lose also withnesed bosses ? I mean for second try again should kill them all before activating the invitation ?

[muted bluff]

If you enter and leave an area/map without doing a single ritual, so like:
Do rituals in area1, defer an item.
Enter area2, but don't do any ritual.
Enter area3, and do rituals.
Have i lost the discounts?

[raw girder]

so I have The Hidden invitation (for Domains), killed Xoph via regular Breachstone and still can't see the completion for Xoph's domain on my atlas, am I doing something wrong?

[quartz trellis]

was Maven turned on when you did Xoph?

You have to manually turn Maven on for the special stuff for the first time IIRC

[raw girder]

yes, just noticed when I mouse over the invitation in map device, it says 3/4 now

so guess it counted that I killed Xoph?

[quartz trellis]

ah, okay. You also have to zone out of the instance before the map will update your completion haha

[raw girder]

zone out?

I'm in my hideout.

[quartz trellis]

Ye, that's when it updates. When you leave the instance. So it just had to update on the atlas is all.

[raw girder]

But how can I see it in the atlas? Guess it's still not listing completed mavens there.

[quartz trellis]

No, I'm saying it just needs to update. Your next instance should show it just fine, if it still doesn't show completed while you're in the specific Xoph instance.

[raw girder]

So I have to wait for the instance to close. Then it should update? Is that what you're saying?

[quartz trellis]

No, lol. You're not getting what I'm saying at all and I'm not sure how else to explain it. Hmm. Everything is fine, the game just doesn't update the atlas until you teleport out of the instance you just did. Literally just a visual update.

[raw girder]

So it's a bug that it didn't update when I teleported out of the instance? Not sure how else to understand what you're saying 😄

[quartz trellis]

No, it's not a bug at all. It's something that's happened forever haha. The atlas does not update your progress until you leave the instance you're in that progressed it.

[raw girder]

Didn't I do that? I left the instance I was in that progressed it, right? I completed Xoph's Domain, teleported out to town, that's leaving that instance, no?

[quartz trellis]

Ye and you said that it updated?

[raw girder]

When I put the invitation in the map device, mouse over, then yes, says 3/4. But I expected to see a list of all locations in the atlas UI somewhere, that's what I understood should become visible once you complete at least one of the locations.

Where you normally see awakening level, I expected to see maven icon, which if you mouse-over shows that I only completed Xoph Domain, but none of the others.

[versed marlin]

Once you complete one of the special invitations and unlock the 9th atlas tree you see a list in the centre of that tree that shows your bosses witnessed towards each of the 5 special invitations

It's a bit stupid but before you complete one of them there is no in game tracking for progress

[raw girder]

Thank you, that's what I've been wanting to hear 😉

Watched some youtubes explaining this where they explained it wrong then. The Grimro dude said it wrong 😛

[versed marlin]

Most people were just rushing out content to be first but before knowing exactly how everything worked and the best way to explain it

[raw girder]

well said

[quartz trellis]

Ah, I got what you were asking now. Yea, the way to check your progress doesn't show up until you already started it I believe. That's kind of GGG's thing though. They don't want to hold our hands

[raw girder]

Would you maybe know if it makes a difference which breachstone levels I use for the invitation?

thanks, so guess can go cheap and use the regular ones

How the hell... my The Hidden invitation said 3/4 after I completed 1 breachstone, now completed a 2nd one and it simply allows me to activate it already, without the need to complete last 2 breachstones. Can someone explain this?

but I haven't done a single breachstone before, this season, how can I have completed 2 already before?

anyways, shouldn't be a problem to open the invitation already then, will save me the breachstones

was just worried it will be some weaker fight with only 2 bosses or some other mess 😄

HAHA this is so buggy, can't open after all. But now instead of a tooltip 3/4 2/4 or whatever, I get a message upon pressing "activate", which says "You have not collected enough bosses from this Atlas Region"

No uncharted realms yet, trying to get the first invitation done.

When "Activate" button was disabled in the map device, on mouse-over, it explained why it was disabled, that I need to witness more bosses and "3/4"

Doesn't seem they tested this scenario well enough, got 2 ways of communicating same message.

yes, that's what I get now after 2 breachstones, after 1st breachstone the button was disabled with 3/4 tooltip

let me check what I get after 3rd one, maybe they implemented this differently for odd/even numbers 😄

Guess if I rip the invitation fight I'll have to redo the breachstone instances if I ever want to repeat? Or does it remember that they were witnessed until I win the final fight?

ooook, they're tough, this will be a rip :<

[quiet moss]

what the heck is going on with the trade... i get trade messages with items sold an hour ago...

[sacred bough]

guys do i need to turn off the witness when fighting maven herself? or it does not matter

[glad thicket]

If I'm trying to farm a specific ritual item I deferred, does it work if I just do 1 ritual and start a new map if my item isn't there?

[livid pecan]

hey have they nerfed maven healing yet?

im waiting to come back to play until that happens

[violet nymph]

@quiet moss For me, I didn't get a single whisper despite having items up, then about 30 minutes later suddenly BRRRRRRRRRRRR

I WANT YOUR BREACHSTONE I WANT YOUR X CARD I WANT THIS I WANT THAT

Dozens of em at once all of a sudden

[livid pecan]

hmm. okay. thank you.

so its still broken, good to know

[rigid stream]

Maven healing was nerfed

It now has a much longer cooldown

Some time ago

[stable thorn]

Does it matter which ritual totem you use vials on? ie should you use it on the last one you activate for the most mobs or does it remember across the whole instance

[slender temple]

@quiet moss people not using official trade site

@quiet moss list a perandus blazon for 1c and wait a few hours them remove it the messages won't stop for hours and hours

[native sonnet]

does the secret of stones atlas passive (25% increase watchstone effect) work with the 1% chance for ex to drop as 3ex?
a.k.a does it rounds down/ if i have 4 stones, does it actually become 5% or still 4%?
i see the other mods get modified by 1.25 under watchstone modifier on map device, but for the ex mod it's still listed as 4 separate 1%

[lilac saffron]

Maven shaper fight is nothing compared to before the fix

Maven had only 3 moves: heal, double and explode balls

You used to have 4 shapers in the arena

[sage flame]

Finally got a few watchstones. Done only 1 Maven-held trio fight, which felt pretty easy, but I'm sure higher tier maps will change that. Only got past 5 and up to 7 so far.

Got stuck on map progress last time I played PoE, so actually figuring it out this time is fun.

[naive shadow]

Why. Are. Ritual. Bases. Immposible. To Obtain.

[light adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/lbywxw/i_didnt_think_finding_base_types_was_going_to_be/glx7ir0?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[naive shadow]

Lmao

Wow I'm 7/9 i feel accomplished now

[gleaming kettle]

So the Ritual encounters V challenge is just bugged some bosses will not spawn in the ritual lol

[silver kettle]

The challenge is definitely completable (just checked to make sure, plenty of people on live who have completed it). Did you make sure that the boss died inside the ritual circle? That seems to be the main thing that trips people up. If in future you definitely do and it doesn't respawn, worth submitting a /bug while still in the area.

[gleaming kettle]

I'm specifically talking about the Spider Boss that falls down (queen of the tangle something) did her 3 times inside the boss room ritual and she never respawned in the ritual.

I was gonna post a bug report on forums then found a similar complaint posted by somebody else and others replying with the same issue https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3031381/page/2#p23861881

@silver kettle

[sharp falcon]

In the forum someone mentioned u need to do the divine vessel catch first. It 100% true. I did without it and I cant spawn the queen in the ritual. Than I did with it, and now I can spawn it. So just collect the queen with the divine vessel, give to Sin, and now u can try catch the queen...

[gleaming kettle]

Oh snap that makes sense

You're a god @sharp falcon

[sharp falcon]

Not me, who wrote the forum post... but yeah, I tried it and it worked!

[gleaming kettle]

So I just tried it and it didnt work boss still does not respawn in ritual 😂

[sharp falcon]

That is interesting, because I tried before like 20 times... than I do the divine thing and it worked the first time. You did it separate times? If yes i dont know what happening...

[gleaming kettle]

Yeah well probably just bugged for some people including me, will try again next patch, thanks still lol.

[frigid peak]

guys, do the node Neural Pathways and Remnants of the Past on atlas passive tree work with Unique bosses from Beyond? I ran about 20 maps with beyond mod from Map device but they didnt drop anything

[fickle sigil]

when do the mechanics start for this league

[versed raptor]

ritual encounters v just straight doesn't work?

[sage flame]

I'm still trying to get Perandus bro to show up, using that 20% chance skill on the atlas tree. No luck so far.

No idea how many coins you need to buy anything good from him, but I'm hopeful.

[wraith mason]

I played almost 15h of PoE over the weekend and didn't get a single harvest. Wow

[formal stag]

is tribute depend on how many ritual on the map ?

or it depends how many mobs ritual spawn ?

[vernal isle]

both I guess?

it's pretty inconsistent

don't drag mobs out of the circle

[formal stag]

yea ik that. I just feel unlucky cuz 2 rituals only 500 tributes, but 5 chaos orbs with each more than 1k5 tributes.

[rigid stream]

It depends on mobs

And there are certain Tricks to get almost 20k tribute

[agile verge]

What's best setup for Uncharted Realms if I'm mostly just running Haewarks? I finally got around to max points. Thinking all Zana stuff, +1 awakening level, and Secret of the Stones, but open to better alternatives

[twin obsidian]

How to unlock awakening 9?

[twin obsidian]

nevermind, found out my games bugged and i wont be able to unlock awakening 9, others are telling me they have the same

[rigid stream]

?

you need to finish the special invitations

[twin obsidian]

yes but it's bugged, it doesnt appear in my inventory or stash

i'm not the only one with this problem, the forum is full of people

?

[rigid stream]

what doesnt appear in your inventory?

[twin obsidian]

the uncharted realm invitation

the quest that enables you to ascend to awakening 9

[rigid stream]

Thats a Random tradable drop

15%? 20%? Droprate of any of the Special invitaton Content.

Somewhere around that

So do a couple elder/shaper Guardians and it will eventually drop

[twin obsidian]

someone told me it's a green quest 🤔

uncharted realm doesnt appear on trade search for me so

[rigid stream]

The Formed The feared The Hidden

And some others

Do the elderguardian and then the shaperguardians The Others are hard

[twin obsidian]

aight well idk why it's like that it doesn't even say anything accept, "accept the invitation" on my challenges

[rigid stream]

Because its a Secret thing^^

Once you unlocked it you get a list

[twin obsidian]

I wouldnt mind if it didnt pop up on my screen every 4 minutes

[twin obsidian]

@rigid stream just did the mavens wit, nothing happened just a platinum stone dropped

atlas still the same

so I have to complete them all? doesn't make any sense

[rigid stream]

No you have to Run elder Guardians/shaper guardians

They drop the invitaton

Or breachlords/Synthesis maps

[twin obsidian]

Yeah well I definitely have the quest, it should tell me what I need to do

[rigid stream]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ritual/RlyKYYWU7

It will Tell you once you completed one

You get a new menu in the middle with a checklist

[twin obsidian]

ya I'm gonna do it now

[rigid stream]

Dont do the feared First, thats really really hard^^

Hardest Content in the Game currently

[zinc wadi]

do the mods on craftable watchstones stack?

[rigid stream]

If they have a numerical value, yes. If they are a boolean, no

[fast crest]

just had my first exalt offer from a Ritual. Unfortunetly; it was alongside my deferred 21/23 Vaal Cyclone which is worth about x1.5 ex

[versed marlin]

If you didn't have the points to defer both you could have chosen to defer the ex this time provided the cyclone had a yellow boarder and not a red one it would still be in your deffered items pool. It would just gain back some of its original cost next time it shows up.

[rigid stream]

Also 21/23 Vaal cyclone is the Same as 21/23 cyclone. Nobody uses Vaal cyclone

[wet plaza]

its even worse, not the same as it eats souls

[violet nymph]

no, but it's still a period of time where you're not getting souls with your other vaal skills

i.e. objectively worse

[exotic forum]

main tricks iv kind of figured were a thing for Rituals were:

A) If the map boss is inside a ritual area, do that ritual first.
B) Do the larger rituals first that way mobs from those larger rituals show up in any small rituals you might have.

and ofc: Keep a rough idea of how much Tribute you got from an individual shrine, since Ritual Vessels only collect the mobs that were first killed at any one ritual site.

[brave wing]

Is there any way to optimize favour gain?

I saw something about clearing the rest of the map first but I don't notice a difference

[rigid stream]

there are several things you can do to massively improve your favour gain by a factor of hmm 5? i would say

[surreal helm]

Is it worth it to allocate the +1 awakening level node in the uncharted realms?

seems pretty weak for 2 passive points

[sharp iron]

How much time do we have left for Ritual league?

Also, is there a list of Ritual base types anywhere?

Nevermind, I found what information I needed.

Dang, was really hoping there would be an item that gave the effect of the Blizzard Crown, but for Fire. That would have been so good for my cast on crit fire Inquistor I'm trying to make.

[cunning blade]

we arent even past the first month so id say quite a lot

[leaden fjord]

[empty juniper]

guys if you defer a item is it region linked or can it return in all regions?

[lilac saffron]

Only char linked

[empty juniper]

ah oke

ty

[flat oriole]

Hey guys, so im try pushing end games. What invitations we should do/buy first? So i can get my first few points of the realm

[signal swan]

both guardians probably

[errant compass]

hi guys

there is a question about quality/quantity of a map:
do they affect how many coins I will get after clearing shrines? and do they affect how many monsters will spawn in shrine area?

[rigid stream]

Yes and Yes

But Quant Not by a lot

[errant compass]

@rigid stream is there any reddit posts about it?

[rigid stream]

absolutely not

but

Basically what you need is a fairly open map and then add the following things. High packsize, Domination, Sextant that adds monsters that convert when killed

what happens then is, a shrine or a totwm group spawns in the ritual

so you get 100+ monsters per ritual

and then you get 12k points before using any vessels

[errant compass]

I mean, if I want to farm only vessel shrines as fast as I can and get as much coins as it can give, so should I always 20% quality and vaal my maps? +other juicing things to add as much monsters as I can?

[rigid stream]

you want packsize over quantity, but in general yes

[sharp falcon]

Yes, go to the pack size, not quality. If u do over 25% pack size, u will be fine. And most important, try to kill any mob in the ritual circle, what spawn in it...

[sour mountain]

try to juice with stuff like prophecy unique monsters to add cool stuff to the rituals 👍

[livid birch]

if you go into a zone without touching a ritual do deferred items still tick down or not

[silver kettle]

no

you can kill the monsters around the ritual as well. they won't tick if you don't ever click a ritual altar.

[livid birch]

ok thank

[sharp iron]

I hope this league becomes map-only and doesn't migrate into campaigns.

[sour mountain]

i kinda do too

[sharp iron]

I hate reaching the next area, but then remembering I missed a ritual and haven't spent the tribute for the last area, so I have to backtrack to do that.

It works when your goal is to clear a map. But your goal in the campaign often isn't to clear areas, it's just to make it to the boss or make it to the next area.

[sour mountain]

i've just found them very slow to interact with

[rigid stream]

They scale with your clearspeed

[storm crown]

@silver kettle do they tick of item that isnt revealed? 🤔

[bitter locust]

I think deferred items are always revealed

[cinder isle]

They Are.

[exotic forum]

what do ya mean?

[ebon locust]

is there a way to remove/cancel deferred item?

[storm crown]

I mean hiden defered items do they still tick.

[silver kettle]

I don't believe there is such a thing as a hidden deferred item. This is just from my experience as a player rather than any dev answer, but if a deferred item shows up in an area it's always visible from the first ritual

[hushed sequoia]

Actually worth it to use ritual vessel?

[storm crown]

ty for clarification!

mvp as always

[exotic forum]

yea, deferred items will always show up revealed and can be identified by having an additional symbol on the item

the point to what viperesque was saying though was that ritual rewards only get rolled when you do the first ritual (including the hidden items that get revealed as you complete more rituals)

If you don't do a ritual in an area, ritual rewards don't get rolled, which means not even your deferred items get rolled so they don't increase in price

ultimately it means you can zoomzoom through multiple areas, not do a single ritual, and not risk losing any previously deferred items.

[violet nymph]

Which watchstones(chromium, i want them permanent) would be good for hamlet

if i wnat to do troves

Harvest Crops in Areas have an extra chance to grow higher Tier Plants
?

also, can you have both of those stats?

[vivid crag]

you're better off spamming zana for harvest

use Titaniums with +1/2 map options for zana with the uncharted zana passives

[bold void]

Is there a way to check which maps have the maven witnessed?

Cause I want to do the maven invitation: the forgotten but don't know which I already did and which not

Oh

I found it

[cobalt falcon]

Can i do same invitation again

Example repeating breachlord invitation

[jagged slate]

How do I prioritize which stuff to pick with a given area’s Favour? Mostly I’ve been going after currency and cards, with an occasional fossil or unique.

[gritty basin]

Do we know if there's any set math regarding the tributes? Like how much per enemy type math

Also, is the number of enemies guaranteed? I've been getting rituals at the edge of the map, where half the circle is out-of-bounds. Does that mean only half the enemies spawn? Or do they all spawn in half the space

I'm playing a summoner so I can't really see the enemies to check lol

[gleaming kettle]

PSA for anybody attempting Ritual Encounters V and having trouble capturing the boss, make sure to DISABLE any corpse destruction mechanics you have.

Been trying for days to do the jungle valley one and finally figured it out lol.

Obviously a bug but easy enough workaround for now

[high ore]

omfg my hat eats dead people, that makes so much more sense

thank you

[next epoch]

omfg my hat eats dead people
and that one's going in my quotes file

[dusty lichen]

hm not a bad talisman lol

[peak terrace]

talismans have been good to look at since the annoint changes

u can luck out on a pretty cool one

[hasty perch]

They roll super good stats

Sadly the annoint is nearly always bad or has ko synergy

[barren crescent]

Charisma is never bad

[warped monolith]

Yo, I have a question regarding "Uncharted Realms"
Do I need do to all "4 Shaper Guardian bosses" in same time inside Maven's crucible in order to get 2 skill points OR can I activate maven's invitation With just 2 or 1 bosses killed and still get 2 skill points?

[vast gazelle]

the maven must witness all four

[velvet palm]

you do those four maps separately

and then pop the invitation in

[halcyon veldt]

If there was no way to steal buffs from mobs (ie remove hh and its equivalents) would that brick some 100% deli builds?

[native sonnet]

if by "some" u r referring to the selfcurse TC builds that built around HH, yes

[halcyon veldt]

No, I mean some of the builds in dental

General

Almost any time I see the "I clear 100% deli map in 5 seconds and then I have to spend 5 hours looting, GGG fix this" point they're running hh

[native sonnet]

Not all builds run 100% delirious with HH, most of them do, and most of them does not brick without HH, but "some" does - so yes

[sour mountain]

that talisman is kinda average... but hardly bad

and the charisma anoint is juicy

[cursive glen]

You could always do a t2 tower farm instead

The 15min looting is annoying and real though, i tried out the 100% delirious strat yesterday and I'm considering selling my base and going back to killing bosses

[midnight plinth]

Random question, I have 10 bosses captured for Lex Proxima but I didn't get the "green" invitation for Maven's fight but I got this thing. The question is as follows...how do I get the actual 10 boss invite?

[rigid stream]

that is the lex proxima invite

the 10way is tradable

[midnight plinth]

weird, i cannot open it :\

unless im missing something, if i put it in the map device it won't open

nvm, it was just bugged, had to relog

[eager terrace]

that is the 10 boss

oh discord didn’t scroll

👨‍🦯

[silent kindle]

short question, if you put multiple ritual vials in the atlas device, will it add multiple monsters?

vessels*

[native sonnet]

yes

[silent kindle]

ok thanks

follow up: is it worth it?

[native sonnet]

worth is subjective/situational

if u put 4 in randomly, probably no

if u put 4 in to buy the deferred HH, hell yes

[silent kindle]

so having more monsters in the ritual does't affect the drops in the ritual?

[native sonnet]

it does, per the vessel

but not noticeably better rewards from my experience

[silent kindle]

ah ok

ye same experience here

i'll try one with as many unique monsters as possible

[devout osprey]

any smart ideas for the ritual encounter V? trying to lure guradians into the ritual cicrcle is a mess

[velvet palm]

get a buddy and reverse knockback cyclone shenanigans?

[native sonnet]

no

just goptta run the map till u find 1 where the ritual actually spawn in the boss room

then capture that with the vessel

after u capture all of the required ones, use them all in a map and complete the rituals

[spare imp]

do watchstone mods stack? I'm specifically talking about platinum watchstone mods.

so if i have 3 platinum valdo's rest watchstones with 15% chance to contain an additional harbinger, do I have a 45% chance to contain an additional harbinger, or up to 3 additional harbingers each with a 15% chance of spawning?

[proper widget]

well typically mods of the same name just stuck

i dont know why watchstones would be an exception

[native sonnet]

they do

45% chance for 1 additional harb

[pliant jacinth]

Are ritual rewards bound to a specific map or region on the atlas? I got some div cards and deferred them and haven't re appeared for a while.

[graceful knot]

For people who farm valdo's rest harbingers, are Laden Platinum's the best after Auspicious? The ones that give harbingers chance to drop an additional currency stack?

having 3 of them seems good in combination with the Auspicious one..

[rigid stream]

Yes its good but, its too expensive

[wet plaza]

laden are cheap so def worth if you run auspicious

[rigid stream]

You get about 30% more loot compared to Not having watchstones. So you need to Run roughly 600-800 Maps to make your Money Back. Which.... Sure May be Worth it? But only If you intend to Farm a lot

[native sonnet]

does the aura/debuff actually say increase dmg taken in game?

cuz poedb doesnt seem to show that stat

everywhere else = ?

[tawny pasture]

i remember seeing we take increased dmg while in the aupulent area

when you have the aura

[fringe umbra]

#so if your region is dominated by some1 u cant allocate the points in mavens crucible

[storm crown]

You mean when they have stolen The watchStones?

[pallid flower]

Talk to Kirac - He'll reveal the citadel and you can allocate the new points from the map

[ebon locust]

Volatile Ritual is so hard to find. Any tricks to up your chances to get this for challenge?

[tawny pasture]

do more map

[violet nymph]

Opulent is the last one for me

Somehow haven't seen one yet

[tawny pasture]

ive encounter each of them at least 5 time

[frail dew]

If I defer something on one character will it show up on another?

[silver kettle]

no

[lunar notch]

Iirc last ritual for me was dread

[warped monolith]

can this boss be done in tWo people? Like someone carry me, I just die inside & get 2 skill points When fight is done? I Would like 2 skill points NoW and learn the fight Later.

[vernal isle]

boss carries are thing, yes

you probably want to go to #trading

[heady zephyr]

yo if i don't have enough tribute to defer and item, what happens?

[onyx jacinth]

Did you defer it already?

[heady zephyr]

many times ya

but i actually had JUST enough to do it again. but regardless im still curious

[onyx jacinth]

Then it’ll get more expensive, if it had a red border it disappears.

[heady zephyr]

alright good to know i appreciate it

its a 7 link chest with shitty stats. how much roughly could that tell for?

[tawny pasture]

we dont price check on thiss dicord normaly

but a divine orb

[spare imp]

What does the New Vastir node "Total Anarchy" mean by "every 2 additional content types applied to Areas"? Does it mean map mods (prefix/suffix), league contents (metamorph, delirium, blight, etc.), or what?

[native sonnet]

the mods with the "extra weighting"

[spare imp]

well that just seems strange, but ok. I'll have to look and see what all counts. I doubt the nodes are worth it though

[native sonnet]

the mods from sextants counts too btw

essentially the ones that add league mechanic/content

[spare imp]

what about the additional rewards mod? does it just roll its loot table again or does it pick from anything special?

[native sonnet]

just random "rewards" like the legion sergeants afaik

[spare imp]

seems pretty meh. i'll try it since i have the orbs. might be quicker than doing the abysses

[sharp iron]

I have two five link chests in Defer that are so close to me obtaining that it is taunting.

Both would be very good for my build as well.

[sharp iron]

I haven't been playing very much as I've focused on other projects

I'm in act 9 rn

I did have an exalt drop, but I'm saving that to buy stuff go use on the Altar of Corruption and Doriyanni's Insuritute I gave saved up in my Incursion Temple

[copper kernel]

You can just sell those in the trade servers

Instead of burning money

[sharp iron]

Maybe.

[dry plume]

how do i capture bosses with the ritual vessels? Do i not have to just use it on the ritual that spawned in the boss room?

just did the jungle valley boss and it wasnt captured 😦

[livid birch]

does the price reduction stack if you defer the same item multiple times in a row

[rigid stream]

Yes

[spice merlin]

low map tier or the boss died outside the ritual

[native sonnet]

jungle valley boss is buggy, had to try it 4 times to capture it

[ruby cargo]

For Complete Ritual Encounters V is caping boss for vessels buggy or something? Jungle valley and wasteland boss didn't get captured despite being in the ritual

[torpid pewter]

Is Zana's missions in regions not getting the effect of that regions Passives a by design thing, or a bug?

[light adder]

Since she yells at you for doing anything maven related seems fine those are not working from her

[native sonnet]

zana's mission are on "her atlas", not urs

hence ur atlas passive doesnt work and they dont progress conquerors etc

[torpid pewter]

Sounds good 🙂 Just making sure

[livid birch]

thank

oh also if maven witnesses a boss is it possible for her to forget about that boss and not replicate it anymore

incase i accidentally curse myself by showing maven a boss that i really hate

[native sonnet]

the conqueror progress and watchstones are on ur atlas, which also dont progress/apply

and those are tied to ur atlas, rather than map device

[spare imp]

what movement skills pass through maven's coil beams without getting the debuff. I swear dash does not work. Using a 21/23 dash btw

@native sonnet , do you know?

[native sonnet]

never tried all of them so dk, but if i have to guess blink arrow/lightning warp

[violet nymph]

Skills labeled blink should all work

Anything that teleports

[rigid stream]

zana just doesnt like maven cannonically ans hence you arent allowed to bring her

[sour mountain]

this i kinda wonder
does the Syndicate have their own map device?
i think they do but im not sure

[rigid stream]

they dont

map devices are really rare

[red jackal]

not that rare, I have one in my hideout

[rigid stream]

cause thats the one you built with kirak after the primary one blew up

[red jackal]

speaking of which, there's no map device in the acts anymore, is there?

no way to keep up two maps at the same time

[rigid stream]

dont think so yea

[native sonnet]

ye, popped alva this league then realize i havent made my frostferno

had to have my guildy pop an estuary on his ho for me

[sour mountain]

if they dont have a map device how do they get into maps

4head

[livid birch]

the syndicate needs map devices or else they couldnt do anything on the maps lol

[storm crown]

Maybe They can travel like the elder 😏

[wintry cypress]

Anyone know if Laden (Additional Harbinger shard chance) stacks?

[silver kettle]

it does

[tacit lake]

if i witness someone elses shaper kill, does it register on my uncharted realms?

[wintry cypress]

ty

[cobalt falcon]

If i dont click reward, but i do ritual

Can defered item disapear if i forgot about it

[native sonnet]

yes

[cobalt falcon]

Oh dang

I forgot it a lot

[onyx jacinth]

You can share witness credits

[north dragon]

Nice

[frigid venture]

Umm how

https://youtu.be/wur1X2YBh6o

[ornate flower]

planning fresh ssf start, any suggestions thats not bladeblast?

[north dragon]

Blade fall

[slim solar]

What do you think is better on Valdo's Rest Platinum watchstones (beside the "Harbingers in Areas drop rarer value Currency Shards"): Harbingers in Areas have #% chance to drop an additional Stack of Currency Shards OR Areas have a #% chance to contain an additional Harbinger ? Or a mixture?

[rigid stream]

Extra harbingers Chance doesnt do much,you have Like 6-10 already

[slim solar]

ok,so I go for more stacks

[ebon locust]

WTF Ritual Vessel on the Lookout Boss Area is stupid! It spawns invulnerable boss minions and you can't end ritual unless you TP or DC... does GGG know this bug?

[low rune]

Anybody know how to open a tier 5 maven's invitation? just cant open it.

[maiden coral]

same thing with pit in my experience, they spawn outside the arena

[maiden coral]

I know it's just rng, but is there anyway to have better odds at finding the high tier Ritual Altars? stuck at 13/15

[violet nymph]

not afaik

i still haven't found opulent

[maiden coral]

@violet nymph i have opulent if you want, softcore

[violet nymph]

ooh

[slender temple]

Took me getting to level 98 and hundreds of maps before I saw a sanguine ritual never seen one again

[grave wadi]

There’s a certain area in silo where if you have a ritual in it, half the mobs will spawn on the other side of the wall which you can’t access unless you walk across the map

[maiden coral]

good lord

[slender temple]

almost 99 now still havent seen another one hahaha

am only mapping

[light adder]

Yeah, thank god for guild buddys with that challenge

[storm crown]

sanguine ritual wich one is that?

hadf to look it up XD but i have had all the rituals Xd

[lapis cairn]

does beyond spawns in ritual encounter raise amount of favor?

[rigid stream]

nope

[lapis cairn]

okay, damn. thanks

[warped monolith]

Can I remove "#% increased Mana Regeneration Rate" as item explit using some of HARVEST crafts?

[devout osprey]

no

as in, you cant target "mana"

[celest atlas]

you could prop only use remove an non-x add x to have a little more target than with an anullment

[red jackal]

(or via reforge but keep prefixes/suffixes if it was an isolated stat)
also, why do you have the Corona-Warn-App logo as your profile pic? 👀

[reef locust]

i friggin hate the ritual that ensnares you! and ofc half the yellow mobs have proxy shields

just ranting cuz my dude died to one a minute ago

reminds me a bit of D3's "waller" mod... bullshit mechanics

[rigid stream]

the snare only happens if you stop moving for 2 seconds

if you keep moving it doesnt happen

[solid canopy]

What’s the point of the ritual bottles

[limber ivy]

Hello, i have some questions about rituals and tribute points ( how to have better score , how does the scoring works ... ) it's a bit difficult to understand at first

[vast gazelle]

so you kill stuff next to the totem

you click the thingy

it spawns monsters in the area and you kill them to get tribute

more monsters and harder ones = better tribute

each ritual will spawn all the mobs that started near rituals youve killed that map so far

[limber ivy]

thanks
I found killing a Boss is 400 tribute points, Rare 50 , magic 20 and normal 10 points, and when the monsters spawn in next ritual, it's only 60% then 20% and finally 0 ( But not sure )

one of my friends says the clear speed is important to improve score, and sometimes the ritual end without killing every monster because the maximum score is reached ... but it seems pretty odd to me

[vast gazelle]

hm i dont think so

ive been trapped in ritual enough times fucking around looking for a crab or a worm or something to end it

[limber ivy]

yes, me too. Maybe it was totems created by the ritual itself, or raging spirits ?

[rigid stream]

The Ritual Totems dont Count. Clearspeed does Not Matter. Bosses are Not as important as normal Monsters count

If you get 150 Monsters in your First Ritual you get Like 1600 Points. If the Second Ritual has 80 Monsters you now get 1600+1000, now you are at 1600+(1600+1000) 4200. Third Ritual another 80 for 4200+(1600+1000+1000) 7600, 4th Ritual 80, 7600+(1600+1000+1000+1000)= 12200 Tribute

Roughly

Thats why you Always do them in the order of Size If you can. As the Boss is worth less than a bunch of normal monsters

Thats also why, If you want good Ritual vessels, you pay Attention to the Tribute gain of that specific Ritual and only take the ones above 1500 tribute

[limber ivy]

Yes At first, I read 'boss 1st' but it's not always good ( maybe with twin or double boss it's better ? )

But when you kill a boss it gives 400 first time, then 240 then 80 then 0 at 4th spawn

[storm crown]

@rigid stream bosses seem to affect you rewards tho

[next epoch]

Doubtful. The game otherwise behaves as if rewards are all chosen at once when you start the first ritual, and is influenced by the area level and the type of ritual. It'd be hard to imagine a way that the monsters you kill during the first ritual (but no other rituals) could change the item selection

(And it's even harder to imagine a way that subsequent rituals could influence the item selection, since the sizes of the hidden items are all determined ahead of time, and items seem to always be roughly sorted by their tribute price.)

[limber ivy]

I did this table about scoring scaling , it's pretty accurate ( maybe some errors, not sure about 4th with non unique )
Yesterday I did a twin boss map on Coves T1 ( 2 bosses by default ), I earned 4x400, 4x240 ...

And I used a vessel ont Ritual1 to capture them, it worked...

[rigid stream]

The scaling is wrong

You certainly dont get 2 from normal Mobs on your Last Ritual

[limber ivy]

Yes, it's a bit hard to last kill a white mob and be sure it's from the 1st

but for bosses it's ok

[rigid stream]

Because otherwise you couldnt get the 4k+ the 4th Ritual can easily add

[limber ivy]

some values are wrong, but there is a scaling, i will try a with a fresh character from start, act1

but doing in the right order of size is the best strategy. with or without scaling

[storm crown]

@next epoch gamreport did like 200 filled rituals, his conclusion bosses in the vessels affect the reward

[limber ivy]

The first line about Boss is correct, and a good strategy is to aim mapq with twinned and/or multiple bosses

[rigid stream]

A Boss Ritual vessel with 50+ Boss is worse than a normal one with 150 Monsters without a boss

[wanton shell]

its a difficult that leage,not enaph luck

..and alot of lags

specially in party

[storm crown]

More monsters is better for tribute but rewards seem to be affect on how many unique mobs you have in them.

[wanton shell]

yes,sure,but they didnt put to me rewards as uniques

so,maybe just expirience

but game is a game,we cant cry,play with pleasure

[storm crown]

Gamereport did a +800 monsters ritual with no Bosses and couldnt even spend all The points 😂

[wanton shell]

some time ago,i was in drakensang online,i was a old player there,but after they sell it,all crush,so i start poe and now im happy again

perhaps,i need a time ,but its a not bad game

in begining,the game was created for not so many people,moderators didnt know that game will be so popular

that explain the lags and bugs

today its about a millions,i think,players inside

so,its a difficult thing

for them too

[exotic forum]

you sure its tied to # of unique mobs in them or is that maybe just from someone using a bunch of ritual vessels that have unique mobs in them and the better rewards is from the vessel usage

[storm crown]

its not 100% but vessels with uiniques had better rewards from the testing

[limber ivy]

it's written "Rituals have 20% improved Favour Rewards/Rituals spawn Monsters 20% faster/Rituals have 20% more maximum monsters alive" on a blood vessel

[storm crown]

its comparing on maps with 4 vessels onto them

[prime wind]

Hello, how do I sell blood-filled vessel with bosses meant for challenge since we can't look per boss on trade ?

[onyx jacinth]

People sell them on TFT

[prime wind]

what's that

[eager charm]

A separate discord server

The forbidden trove, you can look up the link on google or smt

[prime wind]

thanks

[eager charm]

[bitter ermine]

hey, what does this mean? After defeating a Maven's challenge, I no longer see the atlas citadel? and cant allocate any passives?

[native sonnet]

u have conqueror rdy, just talk to kirac/zana and run that, u already earned the points, just allocate it after when u can click on it

[bitter ermine]

oh I guess I've just never done maven while I had a conqueror ready

[red jackal]

just need to talk to kirac for the citadel to become visible again btw^

[spare imp]

how do I prevent a conqueror from spawning? I just need to unsocket a watchstone from the region before opening the map, and i can put it back in after entering it?

[spice cipher]

why would you want to is the my question

[wet plaza]

Don't do sirus when the cycle is finished or remove a stone yes

[vast gazelle]

doesnt unsocketing a watchstone prevent the appropriate tier maps from dropping for that region

[violet nymph]

I just got to maps in ssfhc, can someone explain best usage of those ritual orbs?

[tall lily]

How do you get rituals vessels with more unique mobs on them

[vast gazelle]

you use the ritual vessel on the ritual totem that you initially killed the unique mobs next to

[wintry lagoon]

So, note to anyone who is leveling another character or just starting. Do not click the treasure chests that spawn Ambrosia and Amarissa if they're in the ritual circles. The game will spawn them and they will not be hittable.

[modest bolt]

how to increase amount of maps which Zana offers to complete her mission? I've taken atlas passvie to double it, but she gives me only 7-8 maps to choose from. That's almost the same as before

[cobalt falcon]

Random

[versed marlin]

There are watchstones mods you can roll to give more zana map options.

[torpid pewter]

I wish the atlas passives that increase the chance of an encounter/thing would decrease ones not picked by the same amount. Like in Liara, if you pick secret stash, and had stuff for blight, the chance for breaches and Einhar missions were decreased by 10%.
Or double the chance increases the path provides. The 5% - 10% boost just creates more feel bads than feel goods (mainly around harvest and delirium)
The increases/enhancements from the various passives are good (Not a fan of beyond demons, however they are great for loot)
Also the crafts in harvest seem more RNG bad than RNG balanced... It would be nicer to see Target anul, aug, etc, in the t16 juiced harvests than currently.

[spice cipher]

yeah no harvest already too powerful with target annuls

[tepid furnace]

Definitely not a fan of that, because you can just get both a lot of the time. All you've done is replaced a feel bad with an even bigger feel bad — what about zones where all the labelled mechanics are pretty great? I love Blight, but I'd be forced to either take not great Blight nodes and miss out on stronger nodes, or effectively lose the ability to ever do Blight in that area.

(as an example)

[sour mountain]

eh, its fine... the only mechanic for which it does not work is, arguably, alva

because if you're trying to get jacked temples, doing alvas on other maps will ruin your temples

but i think most people will just throw 4 alva missions into glennach cairns anyway

[maiden coral]

how on earth do you search for blood-filled vessels that match the stuff you lack for Ritual Encounters V

[versed marlin]

You can't currently, on the trade sites anyway. You'd have to trade via a discord chanel to target what you want or self farm them.

[celest hound]

What's the approximate spawn rate of rituals with map bosses? I'm trying to grind out Rituals V, and I'm just not getting spawns to even do the captures.

[light adder]

Think the longest map streak i had to run looking for bosses with ritual spawned in arena was 10 maps

[celest hound]

I'm at 30 and counting.

I even got Jungle Valley once, but the damned boss didn't spawn during the ritual, so the vessel didn't capture him

[light adder]

Beeline to the boss room and run that ritual first, at least that helped me with jungle valley boss, didn´t get the first one too

[celest hound]

I'll try that

[light adder]

Few threads about that problem https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3025355/page/1#p23869322

[celest hound]

before I waste time, this CAN be done with lower level maps right?

No requirement for vessels used for Rituals V to be red-tier?

[light adder]

Dunno if there is a higher chance to spawn in boss arena on higher maps, did that challenge with a wild mix from white to red maps

[celest hound]

Apparently complaining about it was the key, got Jungle valley on the very first white map 😄

[versed marlin]

The jungle valley one is the most annoying, even when the boss spawns in the ritual it isn't captured on some attempts

[celest hound]

When that happened me the boss itself didn't spawn during the ritual. I would have heard it, and it wasn'tthere

[spice cipher]

they are VERY expensive per vessel

[torpid pewter]

Why no Void-Sphere MTX of the Maven portal?

[young vector]

can you buy Maven invitations and rush the leveling of the altas trees?

[versed marlin]

You need to witness the bosses to activate invitations and in that time you mostly drop all the invitations you can run. The 3 to 6 boss fights for each region are non tradeable quest items also.

[maiden coral]

Completed the Maven but her challenges glitched for me

Disconnected during a memory game, succeeded in it but it still decided to blast me dead
Reconnected, there was a degen field on the floor - so I only needed 3 more degen attacks, WHICH did happen
all of this in the final phase, so no resetting from brain phase

The game awarded me with the memory game completion, but not the degen field challenge

[torpid pewter]

One of the Blood vessels I created had a boss spawn with no lifebar. I can't remember which it was, but it looked a lot like Innocence, on foot, swinging a sword.

[blissful onyx]

Was it an animated guardian? I think the basilica boss spawns one. They're invulnerable but have a duration.

[torpid pewter]

It spawned smaller guys as well (they had no lifebars either). I ran about avoiding hits for a while and it never decayed. The only way to resolve was to die.

[blissful onyx]

That's pretty odd, sounds like a bug

[rare girder]

you can portal out of active rituals to solve that also

ive had to do that once

[trim sage]

when does the laegue end

[devout osprey]

early/mid april

[celest atlas]

is there any trick i tried like 5 times already and i killed her as soon as i had each stacks to 5 .. or am i just unlucky and the first stack running out to fast?

[devout osprey]

i used culling strike.

[wet plaza]

if you kill a totem the charges go off iirc

[devout osprey]

you wait around until you get 5 stacks

yeah dont kill totems

[rare girder]

use southbound or whatever the no-kill gloves are, throw a storm brand on her, and wait

once you get the 5 stacks take off the gloves

make sure you dont put a brand on the pillars or they will die

and remove all your stacks

[warped monolith]

This Watchstone affects Lira. Will this Watchstones affect map located in Lira if I enter map through Zana ? Asking coz of harvests boosts.

[tawny pasture]

why re-asking when i already awnsered you

[vivid gazelle]

for the Uncharted Realsm passives... can you do the same one multiple times to get more passive points? or do you have to do all different ones?

[devout osprey]

different

[crude scarab]

Is there any trick to do the ritual base types? I'm at 7, and haven't seen a new one in quite a while

[vivid gazelle]

no trick i dont think, i know you can defer them just once and it counts as "buying them"

for the achievment

[maiden coral]

maybe rerolls?

[quick saffron]

I was in the same boat as you, I rerolled another character and just kept redoing the first zone in act 3

it took 2-3 hours i think, which includes the time to get there

[oblique tundra]

Does anyone know whether The Feared watcher's eye drops are 2 or 3 affixes?

[native sonnet]

2

[hollow vigil]

Does anybody know if any conditionals affect mavens orb to not drop? IE failing the memory game. Or do I just have really bad luck...

[light adder]

Only got the not more than 16 volatile orbs in the maven fight that dropped my orb, don´t think so

[hollow vigil]

okay, thanks

Im at 15 with no drops 🙂

[light adder]

Awaken 9 seems to effect it tho

[hollow vigil]

hmm okay, maybe ill try that. just been doing 8

[wet creek]

i have a question, does double damage and brutal charge affect damage over time

nvm

[vast gazelle]

no they are hits only

[wet creek]

yeah cuz there is no specified info about brutal charges and it will be fun to have crit on dot builds 🙂

[lilac vine]

did you guys had problems with the ritual encounter V challenge? i put the 4 right vessels (chimera one) in my map device, opened a map, did all rituals and didnt get the challenge done

[wet plaza]

no worked for me

[fierce furnace]

Looking for Glacial ritual for challenge... can pay!

and hearth of the grove

[livid lake]

you did all 4 @lilac vine ?

[tawny pasture]

#1┃looking-for-group #trading

[lilac vine]

all 4 rituals @livid lake i guess it didnt worked because the boss of the map was also in my ritual. but thats crap imo. bad design.

[devout osprey]

I did mine in the arcade boss "room" so i had 6 bosses, and that worked

could be specific boss that ruins it

[lilac vine]

Maybe y. Was in an arena map. Anyway I just skip that challenge for the 36 :)

[dusty lichen]

ba ritual farming is actually legit, thank god it's over

[slender temple]

@dusty lichen from blood awyadycts not bad idea maybe quarry is better ?

[fierce furnace]

Still looking for hearth of grove and glacial ritual for challenge, after thousands of maps lol. PM pls can pay

[light adder]

Check forbidden trove discord

[fierce furnace]

hmm ok

[white badge]

is there a way to search what map a blood-filled vessel comes from

[vast gazelle]

no idont think so

[violet nymph]

Ty

Didn't realize that would work

Holy shit gg

Noice

https://tenor.com/view/nice-nooice-bling-key-and-peele-gif-4294979

[dusty lichen]

still don't get why those bases are so insanely rare

[low gyro]

Its strange that you can't do mavens Invitation with a different character....(no putting it in the map divice and open portals will not work it just not appears for different characters and yes its the same instance cause after changing its still in the divice for this one character, also same for maps aso....strange and shouldn't be like that).

[barren crescent]

The bases feel much more common in low tier maps than reds

[raw crest]

how hard is the feared?

[versed marlin]

With good damage its very easy, if you get overrun by bosses and have overlapping mechanics you can burn through portals quickly. Depends where your build is at currently. Very easy for some and impossible for others.

[wooden python]

Couldnt find an answer for that yet: Do Watchstone mod apply to unique maps?

[silver kettle]

no

[velvet palm]

viper fix gaem

[lyric shuttle]

is it random if/when the boss gets captured, I left the final ritual for after I killed the boss, did the ritual and it didn't get the boss, totally confused https://i.imgur.com/Kb0RMGS.png

so I did 2, killed boss, did third, no boss captured

god dammit it's STILL BUGGED https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3029315/page/1

exact one that bugged for me

[silver kettle]

hotfix for that just went out a few minutes ago, if that helps

[lyric shuttle]

REALLY??? IF YES, THAT'S AWESOME, same exact issue on SUMMIT MAP

sorry to be brusque but this has been a bug since day one, so yeah

https://i.imgur.com/7eiUhvM.png

seems fixed, i'll check summit next

[light adder]

It sorta worked before if you just run to the boss and to that ritual first

[lyric shuttle]

i did that before - no go. this time, worked

same with summit, rush boss, never showed, testing now

balls, SUMMIT has same issue, rush boss, never shows in rituals

[lyric shuttle]

mineral pools, SAME

In order to capture a boss with a ritual vessel :

1 : you need the ritual circle to be present in the boss area
2 : you need to kill the boss INSIDE the ritual circle
3 : you need to give a few second before you activate the ritual
4 : you need to activate the ritual (which will validate if the boss is there

SO, no vessel in boss room = no capture

[lyric shuttle]

AND if you don't DO/capture in boss room, if they show up later capture doesn't work either, source > ME

[lyric shuttle]

also, just checked i have zero bosses from <81 so it's probably level gated, no big surprise

t14+

[wet plaza]

That's written in the vessels

You need to capture it in the ritual it first spawned

E.g. Boss room

[sharp falcon]

It's absolutely not lvl gated, at least not all of them (but I think not at all). I captured the spider queen in white map...

[lyric shuttle]

WELL the DIG boss is also bugged then, got stalker with ritual, killed her, waiting, did the boss room ritual, got the VULTURE QUEEN, explain that one

https://i.imgur.com/xUUFFFu.png

[bold basalt]

vulture queen is one of the bosses?

[lyric shuttle]

I GUESS, these phased bosses are screwing up the achievement I GUESS

https://i.imgur.com/tWCZDDn.png

I did exactly what you're supposed to do, stalker did NOT capture in BOSS ROOM ritual, and yeah I waited

OK, def not level gated, BUT PHASED BOSSES ARE ALWAYS BUGGED

ex: brittle emperor? first attempt, no bug. DIG: 4 tries, GETS WRONG BOSS, ruins is next, I did 6 at T3 with NO boss altar

[spice cipher]

bruh that challenge is ass just skip it

its obv bugged to shit

[wet plaza]

its not bugged, completed it just fine

[versed marlin]

It can be buggy where some bosses don't capture even when they are present in the ritual and die in the circle but it doesn't take that many attempts to collect all the bosses needed

[spice cipher]

its really buggy, half the time you cant capture the bosses even when present in the ritual

[lyric shuttle]

again, because they are PHASED it's crapshoot on getting the right NAME of the god damned boss, please TEST league challenges better

OVERGROWN RUINS is not bugged, it does work, DIG is still on my shit list , going to try again to replicate the mis capture issue

[wet plaza]

I had 0 issues capturing dig twice so just try again

[lyric shuttle]

TERRACE is OK, BUT I waited until the boss spawns the bubble towers just in case, first try, but took 4 maps to get boss altar to spawn (acceptible)

DIG is still bugged, I have video, I killed her, but a couple minions last, after that, she does NOT spawn at the boss altar

[velvet palm]

why do you keep randomly capitalizing words

[lyric shuttle]

DUNGEON, bugged -- BUT, on third attempt after boss was no-show, I LEFT arena, came back, HE SPAWNED. SO, I read somebody had same exact result in (pre patch) Jungle with the spider. from now on I'll LEAVE and see if I get 100% success rate, THEN that's the evidence

[lyric shuttle]

DIG -- did it three times with boss dead, left area, NO BOSS in ritual, fuck this

[devout osprey]

i did pre this patch and what i had to do was skip all rituals until the boss

no problems.

[lyric shuttle]

been doing that all day long, rush boss, kill, wait, activate, no boss same here https://i.imgur.com/43FbbVm.jpg

NO BOSS appears. even after leaving

[spare imp]

Ya'll think Secret of the Stones is worth it? Otherwise i'm just getting adept tracker/enduring influence. Just talking about valdo/hamlet farming.

Current uncharted realms setup

[coral garden]

just realised one of my challenge was undone, i think it was quite an issue 1-2 weeks ago? any fix?

[high scaffold]

do /recheck_achievements command... if u havent got it fixed yet

[coral garden]

@high scaffold didnt work

[high scaffold]

aw... what challenge

[coral garden]

turn in div card

scarab one

i know i did it because i had 2/3 and gambled to 4/3

after turning in i have 1 left

[sour mountain]

is the +1 awakening level just not a good node

i dont see many people take it but i like the idea of it

[lyric shuttle]

how can you track which sets of bosses you've run for uncharted passives? I cant remember

[versed marlin]

Mouse over the middle tree to see your boss progress, or if you have an invitation it shows on there also

The +1 awakener level isn't that strong when you look at what an extra level provides you. Most of the good benefits come from your awakener bonus stacking up for every 6 completed objectives rather than from awakener 8 or 9

[sour mountain]

i suppose if you get it while you're developing atlas, you'll be able to more easily fill Awakening bonus

and you can switch out later

[cunning blade]

its pretty small difference unless ur farming conquerors really

and most people prefer to farm guardians and elder/shaper or zana harvests, so they took those nodes instead