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tawny plover
but it updates now, so old filters get updated
yeah PoB takes a while
level 20 gems on jan 13
so at least 1 day to update
but you can do it manually
if you have something specific in mind
floral wagon
ill prbably just end up playing necormancer skeletons and zombies
tawny plover
https://pastebin.com/5Ha9Veem this is my rough plan
Cold stone golems
if the aura nodes dont get nerfed too much
velvet palm
pendulum is 15% since it has 50% uptime
violet nymph
yes i understand that now
dusty umbra
@velvet palm 100% uptime on bosses 😉
tawny plover
it's like like .5 of a support gem
dusty umbra
oh forgot it's 4/8
violet nymph
"gain convergence when you hit a unique enemy, no more than once every 8 seconds"
why must they do this to me
tawny plover
They do it to everyone
dusty umbra
still a must node at least on my build
tawny plover
sadists
dusty umbra
perma 60% inc aoe when mapping pretty much
violet nymph
i mean i guess it's slightly better since it doesn't feel random
you see a boss, you get 4 seconds of burst
violet nymph
then you can wait and burst again
dusty umbra
it's just a reworked pendulum really
devout osprey
velvet palm
30% isn't THAT much for an ascendancy node, so I don't know why they gave it such a downside
should be every 6s at least in my opinion
tawny plover
30% is a support gem
velvet palm
support gems are more
violet nymph
imo you should just have convergence always when you're fighting a boss, and the area otherwise
velvet palm
they're around 40-45
dusty umbra
support gem is 39-45 ye
tawny plover
Aspect of carnage is 40% more, you you get 10% more damage
violet nymph
but it's fine if it gives you the damage to burst a boss down
dusty umbra
also 15% more >> ultimately way better than 70inc
violet nymph
60% area is very nice
violet nymph
if you want to play herald stuff go assassin at this point
velvet palm
isn't it kind of worse if you have split damage
violet nymph
you probably won't be using trinity together with mastermind of discord
violet nymph
what do you mean split damage then
violet nymph
???
dusty umbra
hence the AOF and signal fire
alsooooooooo
harvest crafting is back (hopefully i can get 50% gloves instead again)
violet nymph
50% cold/lightning bv is gonna be an inquis build, not an elementalist build lol
dusty umbra
and go for double wands or wand+shield then instead of signal+bow
velvet palm
bet it's only gonna be stuff like "roll item, item has X mod"
violet nymph
definitely gonna make a battlemage BV build with this staff
would work better with EK though cause it has actual added damage effectiveness lol
bfbb would be nice probably
tawny plover
I guess you could use Smite as an attack skill to get the damage aura
IMO that's gonna be the goto skill for battlemages
zealous monolith
Barring changes, my battlemage weapon of choice will be Disintegrator
violet nymph
disintegrator did get changed mind you
it had its big flat damage to spells removed and was given the Battlemage mod
martyr of innocence had the same thing happen to it
so basically you use them exactly how you would've used them pre-3.13
velvet palm
the go-to skill for battlemages is gonna be not doing any battlemage stuff 
lucid stone
I doubt anybody is going to actually do melee skills outside of some jank builds with battlemage
At most they're gonna put on some big damage unique or rare and only cast spells
Maybe it'll be used for CoC
violet nymph
??
violet nymph
i'm talking about battlemage though
velvet palm
and?
violet nymph
inquis gets way more for spells
velvet palm
I mean yeah
violet nymph
i want to actually try a hybrid build lol
velvet palm
it's gonna be shit, but have fun
berserker is literally the same as inquis except it gets more attack stuff instead of more spell stuff
and then that one thing that affects both
violet nymph
inquis has a lot more nodes that also effect attacks
void elbow
I wonder if Hydrosphere can cause ailments on a second Hydrosphere. Because if so it will be pretty spicy on totems.
sour mountain
it probably can, but it would have no effect
assuming you can even own a second hydrosphere
void elbow
Will probably test out on standard after the league start anyway.
violet nymph
if there was a support gem that gave you 1 giant totem instead of a number of spell totems, hydrosphere might be good on it
the single totem casts then moves the hydrosphere around
while you give it ailments
void elbow
The way it works in my head is me having 4 totems, each spawn a hydrosphere, they freeze or shock eachother then go brrr.
violet nymph
well, one has to have an initial ailment
cause hydrosphere does nothing until an ailment is applied to it
void elbow
It does the initial/travel damage, which is already phys>cold. My hopes are that it can freeze other hydrospheres with this damage
maiden coral
Im curious, why do people call ritual league a boss oriented league if it's about clearing in a tiny arena
native sonnet
the maven part
lucid stone
Can you even have more than one hydrosphere out?
native sonnet
no
maiden coral
the maven part
Ah fair
Is Frost Bomb the only way to do cold exposure, wondering if that plus hydrosphere would be good or clunky
native sonnet
ascendancy, cluster, wave
silver kettle
hydrosphere itself inflicts cold exposure
maiden coral
Oh lovely, so if one wants to do a cold hydro, just need to inflict chill on it for the pulses?
silver kettle
chill doesn't work on it, needs to be freeze or brittle for cold
maiden coral
Ahh thanks!
maiden coral
amen 🙏
hollow osprey
Yeah I need the numbers though
maiden coral
or maybe just one CF if you want to focus on two
hollow osprey
EE/Trinity Support sounds like a great plan
OH WAIT
It needs all 3 elements to fully charged
maiden coral
no no, trinity charges the two elements you /didnt/ use
in the preview video they alternated between fire and lightning, and cold just kept charging and then fire and lightning alternated
swift pagoda
can also do slams with it
maiden coral
would that be too slow for trinity or hm
untold dragon
You can put store bosses and put 4x on a map.. then the rituals in that map will each have all 4 of those bosses... seems insane, no?
maiden coral
quite 👀
untold dragon
T16 full delirious, atlas passive tree with beyond + other league stuff, craftable watchstones with beyond or other mods, sextants, zana mod.... then just throw 4 crazy boss rituals in the device.
maiden coral
hmm craftable or the unique stones though
I've only ever done one T16 100% Deli, and it took me forever and nearly all my portals 
untold dragon
I've never even attempted it, but definitely tempted this league. Without a doubt I would need my strongest build ever to do this content. I definitely want to do the 10 boss fight and the Maven.
lucid stone
Can richochet chain off walls with projectiles that always pierce?
violet nymph
probably
untold dragon
how does that richochet work if you have chains 3 times, hit enemy, hit wall, 30% chance to hit same enemy again?
assuming just single target in enclosed area
maiden coral
WAIT I DIDNT NOTICE
WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THE TWO AS ONE MAP BOSS
violet nymph
they gonna shit on u hard with dmg mods KEKW
slender temple
@maiden coral nice find my dude
maiden coral
Just give us the shifting lights and im happy no matter the oneshots HAHAHA
harsh bone
If you defer an item in map A, not activate rituals in map B, will you find the item in map C?
Or does it count map B as an instance, despite not activating the rituals
maiden coral
that's an issue if it doesn't show up in C i feel, if you're just trying to trigger conquerors or idk sulphite stuff
harsh bone
I'd imagine that it only counts the instance if you activate the ritual. I hope
maiden coral
hopefully
hollow osprey
This gave me hope that we won't have much phase bossez
Also I like the new bosses in the new map
The one looking like Terrace but land-themed
cunning blade
wait what happens when u put those multi boss maps into the maven thing
u gonna get like 4 bosses from racecourse map?
slender temple
this i wanna know too
woudl be hlarious to do allt he multi boss maps
and have like 30-40 map bosses to fight at once instead of 10
sharp iron
There are some bosses that by Deadeye character can straight up trivialize because she knocks them back faster then that can move, making her able to keep them off screen for the whole fight. So I think that with the right ten bosses, the fight can be trivialized with that method
She even uses spread shot and has piercing, so she can knockback them all at once
Theory crafting the easiest 10 bosses to use is a lot more productive then the 10 hardest
native sonnet
Does map bossess have knockback protection like end game bossess?
Also chain gem/skills might end up being a dps boost in the 10 bossess scenario lol
sharp iron
Map bosses don't have knockback protection
I would know, I have 100% knockback chance and have done some very goofy things. Like preventing bosses from ever entering range to attack me, or pushing a totem boss outside of its intended arena
Knockback actually is a viable form of defense in a lot of circumstances
The only knockback effect my Deadeye has is a notable that makes all critical strikes with bows give knockback. Which isn't too significant by itself, but I am running a crit build with 100% crit chance.
kindred dagger
just realise deadeye lose the on hit life.... that sucks a lot it was really neat, it wasnt hard to put it somehwere with the rework
covert nacelle
has it been confirmed whether trinity support’s resonance gain is replaced every hit like Elemental Equilibrium or if you can keep 100% uptime on all 3 elements by hitting fast enough?
cuz it says its a 2s duration but idk if a fire hit and a lightning hit can stack to grant resonance gain for all 3 at once
maiden coral
It's subtle but the gameplay vid of it shows that all 3 bars can charge together
kindred dagger
for what i get they even tell it directly in the video that the purpose IS to actually charge them all 3 together
for better bonus
stone belfry
So on trinity support: does that mean you should be playing CoC discharge with it again?
Cold damage on your weapon, then use endu/power charges for the discharges?
native sonnet
indigo wedge
does anyone think glass cannon miner builds will be good against this arena with the bosses?
violet nymph
Cold damage on your weapon, then use endu/power charges for the discharges?
yes, this would work
native sonnet
... enhance
violet nymph
does anyone think glass cannon miner builds will be good against this arena with...
go low life, use sire of shards fireball or ball lightning or something, blow up the whole screen
tawny plover
does anyone think glass cannon miner builds will be good against this arena with...
no
you won't be able to nuke 10 boses
with mines
If you wanna oneshot the arena, you need a ice crash berseker build probably
indigo wedge
I am worried. the only builds I know how to play are miner ... and they are extremely poor in defense
tawny plover
I am worried. the only builds I know how to play are miner ... and they are extr...
the guy has a whole channel dedicated to miner
indigo wedge
ok, i ll try
tawny plover
it's a very tanky MOM + indigon build
fallen tulip
AKANE's trap miner ❤️
tawny plover
I believe it can tank Sirus storms too
fallen tulip
i just dislike the indigon playstyle
indigo wedge
its a starter build?
tawny plover
yeah
fallen tulip
"・The entry cost is cheap. Check my older videos in this league. But my setup is expensive."
yeah
its the scion one i think
pathfinder + saboteur
fallen tulip
lol spark mines thats funny
tawny plover
all you need is a tremor rod
indigo wedge
looks awesome.
fallen tulip
why do you have to spam it 3 times a second then?
tawny plover
spark mines should be good for the arena combat tho
it's prob gonna be a top build for the league mechanic
untold dragon
New core expasion echoes! Fight 10 bosses! ... smaller than usual league to go along with big expansion ritual... Fight 16 guardians in one map! lol
tawny plover
You know how the flask works?
I wonder if you do the Precinct or some other 3 boss map, do you get all 3 bosses like metamorph
or 6 if twinned
let's say the cap is 22 monsters
6 of them could be unique mobs and 16 w/e
untold dragon
I don't think the ritual altar will always be near the boss 100% of the time... but any mob or boss that is in range of the altar will be stored in the vessel after you defeat them
tawny plover
well you can't drag them into the ritual
so if it spawns in arena, its gonna spawn near boss
or tag the boss as mob
untold dragon
Yeah, but I think some maps the rituals will all be outside the boss room
random likely.. but it would be cool if it was with the boss as often as possible
tawny plover
well its up to 4 rituals right? what if 1 is guaranteed for the arena
untold dragon
hopefully, but i'm not expecting it
untold dragon
i'm wondering.. i know you can't drag mobs in, but what if you have Beyond active and the ritual fight spawns some beyond dudes.. then will you be able to store beyond bosses?
tawny plover
you won't
it's preset
basically you only revive the mobs that are there already
otherwise you could do some corpse shenanigans
like zombies as corpse
desecrate
the tormented prophecy Forceful Exorcism would double up on bosses too
untold dragon
capturing 4 kitavas would be funny
violet nymph
i miss beastiary league
untold dragon
have we seen any specific bestiary nodes on the atlas passives yet? Probably some juicy ones.. 2x red beasts or something
untold dragon
We have seen Essence as watchstone mod though
velvet palm
ew bestiary
tawny plover
Essence is in there too
untold dragon
Can't wait to see all 8 trees.
silver kettle
not long to wait 🙂
velvet palm
vuper gib petch
also calm down my worries of getting items that you can even afford to deffer
your silence speaks volumes
tawny plover
vuper gib petch
Soon ™
untold dragon
From what I've seen from the videos, you'll have enough. The super high tier items that are 15,000+ tribute are supposed to only appear when you open maps with extra ritual vessels included - which will give more tribute to spend.
In the map where the fated connections appeared for ~15,500 or so, the player had 17,000 tribute avail to spend.
tawny plover
In the map where the fated connections appeared for ~15,500 or so, the player ha...
maybe you need 5 slots in map device for that
untold dragon
Went ahead and grabbed the Elite Faithsworn pack 🙂
I wish the skill mtx sale was lasting until the gem change reveals come. Would be fun to pair a buffed skill with a new mtx to league start with
slender temple
ooh lira arthain = heist? naisu
ah well we gota wait til tommororrow fro teh atlas passives right
i guess its time to go back to sleep
tawny plover
"The Maven can witness fights with possessed monsters but the possession won’t be present in her arena."
"You can also take on the bosses simultaneously with a party, but the success of that fight is awarded to the instance owner." does this mean that the passives are only allocated to the instance owner? It would be like doing Lab in a party but only the one who opened the Lab can ascend
"After you have first completed the 10 boss fight, you have the chance to receive invitation items which can have mods and are craftable, allowing you to scale the difficulty of that fight." Invitation items = maps? Can they be split in two with Beastcrafting?
If they can be crafted, they can be split right?
untold dragon
I don't know if that item will be worth splitting. If you get one every time you capture 10 T16 bosses then I assume it wouldn't be worth it
not capture.. have her observe rather
slender temple
maybe if we splitting a bunch of t19 map bosses but even then idk
tawny plover
it depends on how are the 10 boss fight is right?
tawny plover
maybe if we splitting a bunch of t19 map bosses but even then idk
"The Maven's challenges have fixed monster levels, so the tier of the map doesn't directly impact the level of the map boss when you fight it again."
untold dragon
yeah, i don't think it will be that rare. Maven only appears sometimes when you finish the fight. So if it takes 10 maps to trigger the 10 boss fight, and she appears 25% of the time, that's 40 maps per Maven fight. Much more than that would be a lot.
slender temple
"The Maven's challenges have fixed monster levels, so the tier of the map doesn'...
ok no point to split then
native sonnet
zafaq, the way i read the respond is actually about 2 separate parts "fights"
If you invite the Maven to witness a boss fight and complete that fight with other members of your party, they'll also be counted as having completed that fight.
the first fight is referring to the fight in maps, which counts for all party member
You can also take on the bosses simultaneously with a party, but the success of that fight is awarded to the instance owner.
whereas this fight refer to the maven arena, which count towards the progression atlas points, which only the owner get
tawny plover
So you get the boss "pokeballs" but you need to open the arena on your device? Shared loot but individual progress?
native sonnet
yes, so all party members in the map get the progression from killing map bosses and their own pokeball (quest item)
which they each need to use on their own map device (since u cant trade quest item) to progress ur own maven arena/atlas points
tawny plover
"There are no Ritual-specific sextant mods. However, mods that increase the number of monsters in a map will impact how many monsters you encounter in a Ritual." more packsize more tribute?
"Harvest content can only be found in maps." ew
hasty perch
3a) Within Their Grasp - [BREACH] Breach Bosses have 5% chance to drop a Breachstone; Breachstones dropped by Breachstones have 9% chance to be Charged, 3% chance to be Enriched, and 1% chance to be Pure
I smell moneys
a shame you can't open more than one breach tho
tawny plover
well, for pure, its 1%(chance to be pure) out of 5%(chance to drop) out of 5% (Chance to spawn breach boss)
hasty perch
the other breachstones are valuable too
tawny plover
So it's 2 in 1000 Breachboss encounters
hasty perch
not huge money but still valuable
and you can most likely increase breach boss spawn with other nodes
it's very very nice for ssf tho
these atlas nodes
makes targeting stuff a lot better
lilac saffron
Bruh its bad
hasty perch
it's very interesting
tawny plover
ok. so let's say 5% chance to drop a stone, and 5% chance to have a Breach Boss. that's 0.25% to drop any breachstone
hasty perch
gatekeepers might be more efficient i guess
with double splinter and double breach boss spawn
to try to also get their loot
tawny plover
picking up splinters is a noob trap
Xoph's Breachstone is 10c day 2 so you'd need 10 splinters for 1c
velvet palm
the most efficient breach nodes are not taking breach nodes
breach is just a bad mechanic by now
it's literally only delirium fodder
violet nymph
ooh
OOOH
maybe they're gonna do what to chieftain's rotating node what they did to elementalist's
50% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
Gain Flame's Advance when you Hit a Unique Enemy for 4 seconds, no more than once per 10 seconds
(Flame's Advance grants 100% of Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage)
like this
violet nymph
totem chieftan?
sharp iron
I think GGG's philosophy has been steering more and more towards "player agency over outcome is highly important."
In a looter game, it's a lot about luck and the surprise of the draw. You don't know what affixes an item will have before you identify it, so it's about the surprise of the rolls. You don't know what mod an exalted orb will give you, what unique item you'll get next, or when you'll get it. The early leagues went along with that as well.
But with every recent league, it seems GGG has made the outcomes be something the player chooses. Harvest has deterministic crafting, blue prints have 5 or 6 items you can select which you want (as well as selecting which rooms to reveal) and now Ritual is seeming to be the league with the most agency as you get to choose which bosses you'll fight in it and are given a full shop of choosing which loot to get.
hasty perch
It's a good thing to give some control
sharp iron
Yeah
I feel that if they're going to remove the growing mechanics in Harvest, there should be new ways to control which recipes you get. Like three new Scarab-like items that make it so a portal to the Sacred Grove will spawn, but it will only contain Vivid/Wild/Primal plants.
So if there's a certain recipe you want that's a Wild recipe, you can use one of these to get a Sacred grove with only Wild plants.
neat summit
@sharp iron they are tho ... when u enter a grove u will have a choice of different farms to fight with different crafts in each
gaunt loom
I wish there was more party friendly in this league, where each party gets own personal loot from it
sour mountain
i think its entirely reasonable to expect Harvest and Heist scarabs
harsh bone
well, for pure, its 1%(chance to be pure) out of 5%(chance to drop) out of 5% (C...
Isn't the chance to spawn a beyond boss is increased by 100%, which means every breach will contain a boss
barren crescent
Nah, more like 1/5 breaches has a boss
harsh bone
That's confusing. Someone explained to me that "100% more generals" from the legion node is like 5% base chance, increased to 10%. If a 100% more only adds 5% chance, doesn't 100% increased add 100% chance to the base value. Like, 5% chance, going to 105% chance
barren crescent
Nah it would be +100% chance to spawn boss
Emphasis on having the +
Look how crit wording goes
harsh bone
So what's the difference between more and increased in this instance
barren crescent
Nothing, as far as I know
It would make sense that breach would get better bonus though
harsh bone
It shouldn't be nothing lol. Otherwise, they should be consistent in terms of language
barren crescent
Unless there are other spawn rate modifiers that we arent aware of
The more generals could also mean that you will always have 2 if 1 spawns
harsh bone
That is guaranteed and they worded it correctly without numbers. The numbers are only on the chance of a general spawning
I hope someone will explain all the nodes by tomorrow. There are a few that I have no clue if it's good/worth it
hasty perch
The difference between more and increased is that if you get more instances of more they're multiplicative while more instances of increased are additive
With only one instance of more or increased there's no diff
Increased applies to base chance
More to final chance before said modifier
ocean creek
I have question about echoes of the atlas passives. Are we gonna have enough points to unlock everything in a region
eager charm
yes
eager terrace
remember that there are minor nodes on those trees
and crafted watchstones
so the difference in wording is probably not an accident
untold dragon
@ocean creek No. You'll get up to 10 points. There are 20 points available to spend per tree.
You can respec though
New respec orb specifically for those trees
low gyro
I just can't wait to get legion focus atlas passives on maps with corridors and lot of doors and blight completly in the open....
lucid stone
How does frostbolt work with ricochet? Will it chain off terrain?
tawny plover
frostbolt does not chain
since it always pierces
chain has 3rd priority. it's Pierce > fork > chain > richochet
gusty sparrow
Does Delirium fog pause its movement during the Ritual?
devout osprey
very good question
gusty sparrow
Fog and beyond together gonna be spicy af
devout osprey
so we got no info of that so far.. about that
hot quail
If it is consistent with other mods it should
Because engaging with other mods (legion, blight, abyss, breach) causes mist to stop
tawny ravine
Early deli was painful for a lot of reasons tbf
tawny plover
I don't see why not, they are regular maps
tawny ravine
I think he meant simulacrum
tawny plover
I think he meant 100% delirium
hot quail
Because then you take 100% deli something, and you put 4 vessels along a map and slap double or triple beyond on it
tawny ravine
If you can survive it, sure why not
hot quail
and then you get all the tribute and wait for a HH
native roost
does bladeblast/bfall have more sustained aoe dps than toxic rain? I'm looking into rolling a trickster or assasin and I'm weighting options
tawny plover
It does not. You can do toxic rain mines, for sustained aoe and it's way better than bb/bf
native roost
I'm mainly looking into clearing atziri but being able to boss rush with effecive dps should come along.
native roost
is trickster tr mines a thing?
native roost
sweeeeeet ❤️
devout osprey
but... mines dont count as "you killed" right?
tawny plover
yes
it also means you are reflect imune because the mine does the damage
that's why its good for atziri
native roost
mines also 1 shot all phases
tawny plover
because of the inate 2% reflect
native roost
I did uber on ed/contagion a while ago. but it's so clunky because you actually blight her down (and it's not good)
wet plaza
but... mines dont count as "you killed" right?
Any dots count as you doing the kill
devout osprey
oh right dot..
empty swan
I wonder how deadeye ascendancy with chain off walls will work, like if my projectile pierce and after piercing hit wall will it chain back on target?
native sonnet
im expecting standard projectile behaviour
If a skill produces multiple projectiles at once and chains, none of the projectiles may chain to an enemy which has already been struck by a projectile from the same attack or cast. If there are no valid targets in range of the original enemy, it will target an enemy but not hit, instead passing through.
lean rivet
where is today's reveal/news aaaaaaa
empty swan
Not stonks
ruby chasm
Is there no new info? There's less than 5 days before the expansion drops.
empty swan
Soon-ish atlas talent tree reveal and day after ascendancy rework reveal
native sonnet
empty swan
Who bet on max block glatiator dying?
jolly glen
Is there any good Cylone build i can run when the new updated League comes
empty swan
We don't even know ascendancy changes aren't that too early for cyclone build?
jolly glen
i just want a decent cylone build to level with Then i can reset it at end game and see
surreal helm
I missed the stream. Is it easy to reset allocation of atlas passives?
thick oar
anyone know how many points we get for each region's atlas passive? 10?
thick oar
if we get 2 for each time we encounter (3, 4, 5, 6, 10), it would be 10?
hasty perch
could be
there's juicy stuff
ngl SSF players must be extremely happy right now
and for trade league the delirium branch looks nuts
delirium increases 50% faster means more splinters 
if your build can take it ofc
ocean narwhal
oooh atlas passive trees lets take a look see
one of them gives extra favor if you complete a mission for a master
because favor carries over between leagues, this seems pretty weak
opaque sable
Some of these tree nodes look amazing, can't wait.
If I'm not reading this wrong, sounds really absurd:
eager terrace
according to comments it removes all monsters and adds in a fixed amount of replacements
so not like a 1:1 ratio to density
but still sounds very good
ocean narwhal
dang intelligence gathering means safehouses are gonna be way more common
opaque sable
Ah alright, makes more sense. Still sounds really good yeah.
Yep, safehouses galore haha.
eager terrace
the betrayal and legion ones really have my attention
neat summit
Gib moar POWAH!!!!!
Ngl looks nice but also looks like kinda a hastle to do "per region"
neat summit
do we know how many atlas points we get per zone?
And ye i think they said 8 passive points
neat summit
o wow
eager terrace
new thing, dunno yet
neat summit
i should get back in this league uwu
eager terrace
probably first thing I'll buy just to find out
neat summit
Still think having both heist and atlas together is kinda a conflict of design but meh uwu
sage smelt
"einhar missions have a 5% chance to replace all monsters with beasts" IMAGINE waiting for him to net them all
lilac saffron
Imagine the overlapping sounds
tawny plover
If I'm not reading this wrong, sounds really absurd:
You are probaby readin that wrong
hIt probably turns demons to beasts
sonic glen
so for Immune Response, is that to just farm XP, or is it items too?
silver kettle
they drop items
that big explosion of loot you get at the end of a blight encounter from the pump is all the items the blight monsters dropped
sonic glen
does that apply to blighted maps as well?
vital void
is the new great migration node as crazy as it looks?
cunning blade
imagine going 100% delirium map
silver kettle
does that apply to blighted maps as well?
no, atlas trees don't apply at all to blighted maps
cunning blade
and proccing great migration
sonic glen
ah, that's easy then
I'm loving these, some actually legit choices based on what I want to do
silver kettle
that was the goal
we had a meeting with a bunch of designers and secretly each chose how we'd allocate our points for each region. if everyone agreed we considered that a failure and rebalanced
sonic glen
that is awesome!....any chance you did that to the skill gems too? 😄
vital void
new incursion mods are gonne abe pretty nice for consistantly getting good rooms
sonic glen
these trees are shared across all characters because it's atlas progression, right?
silver kettle
yup
vital void
welp this league is gonna actually keep me in maps
im not gonna be able to reroll 6 characters in the first week of the league
sonic glen
so on hard choices, I love delve - but I'm finding it hard to actually pick the delve nodes because the ones they compete with are so great
vital void
yah respecing the atlas is gonna bankrupt me
next epoch
Including bonuses to favour gain on some of the nodes seems like an odd choice, as favour doesn't affect your character and isn't league-bound
silver kettle
it's just there cause why not
it's not like there would have been a different stat on those nodes instead if favour wasn't there
they would have just had the one stat
tawny plover
are the [redacted] for 11th the maps?
eager terrace
should be the ascendancy trees
rancid crypt
assuming echoes expansion question are fine here, how many points do we have for each atlas passive tree?
slender temple
10 and 20 choices i think so you acn get half of it
maybe some of them have more options i dunno i just checked a few
rancid crypt
make sense thats its kinda half the tree in each region, cool thanks
silver kettle
they each have exactly 20 nodes
maiden coral
the favour is fun for those that are hideout oriented
empty musk
So with new elementalist does avoid ignite no longer matter when specced into guaranteed ignite?
tender lake
Is there a list of maps based on tiers from the atlas image?
tawny plover
based on tiers ? no
you can kinda guesstimate the tiers
lower tiers are on the inside
and high tiers on the outside
so in top right
burials is t16
crystal ore, dig , primordial, arsenal, bone crypt are t14
beach, ??? are t16
and so forth
crystal ore, dig , primordial, arsenal, bone crypt are t14
wooden cloud
Do we know anything about small passives on the tree?
robust terrace
do we know what the vaal merchant is ?
maiden coral
Nope, only the ones of Lex Proxima and Glennarch I velieve
tawny plover
vaal flesh merchant?
robust terrace
yes what's that ?
light adder
tender lake
@tawny plover ill jump on the paint soon and make a list
devout osprey
so whats that supposed to mean
west mango
you know how legion mobs sometimes have the big glowing icons over their heads
it's like that
devout osprey
ooh, smrt
native sonnet
too bad it only work with wild exiles
devout osprey
true. looking forward to this league. now to find a build that i can stick to and not reroll 5+ times first week
west mango
too bad it only work with wild exiles
damn, my factory-farmed rogue exiles are no good here i guess
silver kettle
the alternative was make sure courthouse and precinct never end up in that region
which sounds annoying
devout osprey
dang it they think of everything
native sonnet
so u're saying courthouse and precint are in the region? :3
silver kettle
you say that, but you haven't thought of the thing we haven't thought of
and then someone is going to think of it and post it on reddit
and we're going to go FUCK and nerf it in 3.14 I guess
devout osprey
thats a big selling point for playing leagues
native sonnet
does the exile have 1 reward or can an exile have multiple rewards?
devout osprey
it says Rewards
west mango
i mean yes, it says Rewards, but it's also referring to Exiles in plural
devout osprey
and 15% ..
native sonnet
yeah that;s why im not sure
devout osprey
this game sometimes man
west mango
i would say no, an exile can only have a single Reward
native sonnet
and the low rate
west mango
because they only ever have one giant glowing icon above a monster when they use the Reward mechanic, you know?
tawny plover
you say that, but you haven't thought of the thing we haven't thought of
So... hate to be that guy, but have you considered how it's gonna work out with 36 strongboxes (Monstrous Treasure) guarded by 1 exile (Contested) plus another exile from prophecy (Waiting in Ambush), how "wild" is the wild factor
silver kettle
anything spawned in after level generation doesn't count
native sonnet
wait, does that mean zana anarchy/mapmods, sextants those works?
silver kettle
should do yeah
native sonnet
i thought wild mean literally randomly generated, not forced by any game mechanics
oo
devout osprey
so strongbox works or no?
silver kettle
strongbox does not
west mango
but ones generated by zana and scarabs would
native sonnet
i guess that actually make sense, so the node before it would work with it
devout osprey
rouge exile scarabs 
native sonnet
ok, that sounds better now
was thinking purely random spawn exile and 15% sounds super low lol
devout osprey
same tbh
west mango
rouge exile scarabs <:chrisThinking:591269235674710023>
did i have a brain fart? thought that was a thing
maybe i got them mixed up with something
tawny plover
a mod needs to change the motd of the channel
A channel for in-depth discussion of the current heist league and upcoming ritual leagues' mechanics. No random poe image spam or narrating your poe experience.
west mango
i was about to ask why bc i completely glazed over the actual content of it
tawny plover
Heist is done right?
devout osprey
no
tawny plover
oh
west mango
actual deadline is tomorrow
tawny plover
because I rememeber I made a new witch and it went to standard
west mango
yep, because they fucked up and closed the league early for about an hour
violet nymph
yes
rigid idol
Also i feel so confuse when this is ritual league mechanic channel but most discussion is about echoes expansion
cobalt falcon
So max is 10 then
violet nymph
Magma Orb name change confirmed
tawny plover
Also i feel so confuse when this is ritual league mechanic channel but most disc...
Well it's a channel for current and unreleased content.
cobalt falcon
Oh, i confused since faq say will need higher tier for next maven
west mango
yeah, technically watchstone tier isn't directly related but map tier is
rigid idol
Well it's a channel for current and unreleased content.
I just prefer a channel to ask only about expansion specific tbh. But ritual league are simple enough anyway
tawny plover
We just don't have enough info about ritual tho
rigid idol
They already answer most of the question regarding defer party etc
tawny plover
Did anyone say how the ritual is gonna work in maps like precint?
where there's 3 bosses
rigid idol
Regardless i am glad that the expansion is like this so i dont care on any league mechanic
tawny plover
do you grab all 3 uniques?
cobalt falcon
It seem ritual spawn is slow, can we just activate it and do anything outside ring and come back later as it already spawn all?
native sonnet
if the ritual spawn on them, yes i believe so
tawny plover
you cannot leave the arena or you fail the ritual
west mango
once you activate it it locks you in
rigid idol
It seem ritual spawn is slow, can we just activate it and do anything outside ri...
No reason to think of it like harbinger delirium/breach
tawny plover
once you activate it it locks you in
I don't think it locks you in, you can leave, but you will fail the ritual
native sonnet
u leave by porting out/logging out btw, faq says u can't move out of it
tawny plover
"Can you 'fail' at a Ritual?
If all players within the Ritual die or have left, then it fails. You can come back and spend any Tribute you did earn before it failed."
tawny plover
If you port out of a map, the map pauses tho
native sonnet
not for this i guess
breach is an example of non pausing mechanic when u leave the map
west mango
and mission timers don't pause either
slender relic
delirium didn't at first either
tawny plover
so it's like a boss arena?
cobalt falcon
Man, not looks good for zoom
west mango
so it's more like a single-use delve node
tawny plover
Bestiary encounter
cobalt falcon
More like harbringer boss area
west mango
or that
maiden coral
Idk if it's legit but has anyone seen the 9th Atlas Passive tree
devout osprey
yes but i cant remember it.
slender relic
9:th?
devout osprey
wait what
native sonnet
yes
maiden coral
I can't find any discussion of it here or in Reddit so I'm confused how valid it is
devout osprey
Lira arthain
west mango
i mean, there is a reddit post about it
devout osprey
it is a real pic.
native sonnet
its from the china's announcement page
maiden coral
i mean, there *is* a reddit post about it
really i can't see it lmao
wary cloak
mods probably hidden it
native sonnet
west mango
ah there we go
devout osprey
lots of pics of zana
native sonnet
99% sure they arent
maiden coral
scams
charred wind
what is the best location to farm now with the atlas tree ?
native sonnet
yes
tawny plover
https://i.imgur.com/bC9UmKq.jpg
it's fake
west mango
source?
tawny plover
me
maiden coral
tawny plover
tirn
tirn's end is obviouslly cropped
it was photoshoped
if 1 item was faked, all of it was faked
west mango
hm
i guess i see your point
here's the standard version for comparison https://i.imgur.com/qWKq9gR.jpg
where the tirn's end tree doesn't have one end of the point bar scrubbed off
tawny plover
but there is a missing icon from the atlas
cobalt falcon
164/164 but not all completed is sus
tawny plover
slender temple
well if its real and from china realm its just mtx passive tree
tawny plover
lucid stone
Vaal Flesh merchant? ow0
maiden coral
lmao what
cobalt falcon
Ooohh
slender temple
that does look like a button
maiden coral
it was there all this time
cobalt falcon
So its true
maiden coral
the link came from a cn site
lucid stone
Does votive hoard mean you can potentially get unset rings with abyss sockets
lucid stone
Nah, it just says 'chance to drop a rare item with an abyss socket'
tawny plover
I dont think its valid for jewelry
native sonnet
yeah doubt it, and expecting it to be like the fossil mod, which takes an explicit affix
cobalt falcon
Might be
tawny plover
Probably is
harsh bone
Do you wana see what's on that tab? It's kind of a spoiler lol
Not even sure if it's legit, but looks pretty real
Oh cool it's actually legit
dusky wedge
maps dropped in area have 10% chance to have blight encounter? or maps in area has 10%
harsh bone
Maps that drop in the area, those maps has 10% to contain an additional blight
So, you must get lucky and have a blight encounter, then there will be a 10% chance of getting 2
dusky wedge
and how are you supposed to track that in your maptab? 😄
tawny plover
Not even sure if it's legit, but looks pretty real
If you are talking about the Uncharted realms stuff, it's fake
harsh bone
If you are talking about the Uncharted realms stuff, it's fake
How come when it's on the Chinese server page
tawny plover
How come when it's on the Chinese server page
its photoshoped
harsh bone
Whoever faked it is pretty damn good. That's some creativity
tawny plover
if you look at the tirn's end section its cropped
and it has max atlas completion, but the maps are not completed
its pretty damn bad
you just didnt notice
its obvious photoshop
harsh bone
Kinda disappointed. Would be cool if there's actually something in there
tawny plover
there's no reason btw, for the Chinese version to give a "english" leak
on a picture
for a Chinese audience
harsh bone
But just look at it. It's an awesome idea. They should totally think about it in the future
tawny plover
It already does something
but that picture is fake
we just don't know what it does yet
harsh bone
I'm assuming it's related to the Maven, not the atlas trees
near thunder
I mean, it looks fake but why is it on the Chinese poe site? Kinda weird
I mean, if it is fake why would it be there
Yeah, that is what I am saying
The screenshot got messed up somehow but if it was a fake someone threw together it is weird that it ended up on their website
near thunder
It is removed from the Chinese site now
near thunder
I think it might make since if they are modifiers for the arena where you fight the bosses Maven captures
abstract sable
What are yall even talking about thats fake
near thunder
And that location is called the "uncharted realms"
tawny plover
https://i.imgur.com/bC9UmKq.jpg this is fake
near thunder
The expansion reveal page for the Chinese website had a screenshot with 9 atlas passive trees instead of 8
It has some obvious issues that make it seem fake but it is from the official page for the Chinese server
tawny plover
It has some obvious issues that make it seem fake but it is from the official pa...
then it's obviouslly a fake
abstract sable
They showed it during the content reveal video you could just match up the symbols and paste them on
near thunder
then it's obviouslly a fake
I'd agree if it wasn't from the official site. Doesn't mean it isn't fake but gives it some credibility
tawny plover
no it does not lol
near thunder
Good point
tawny plover
if it has obvious issues... then it has obvious issues
abstract sable
whats fake about it
tawny plover
and it's claimed it came from Chinese server but it was then "removed" I never got to see it on their server
tawny plover
the completion is maxed out, but the maps are not completed
tirn's end is cropped out
near thunder
That is from the Chinese servers official site
Check the other images on the reveal page, they are all the same cdn
tawny plover
there's obviouslly 3 maps that are not completed
abstract sable
It perfectly matches the content reveal video from youtube
near thunder
They probably have dev commands to set full completion or something, Tirn's End is the main thing that is fishy
near thunder
Maybe it is just any map/area that isn't on the atlas
near thunder
Yeah, they replaced it with that sometime in the last hour or so
But as you can see from the links, they are hosted in the exact same place
abstract sable
probably uncharted realms is early spoiler but we cant even see what it does so who even cares
near thunder
I do because it's fun to speculate :D
abstract sable
I mean to try hiding it or w/e
near thunder
Ahh ok I misunderstood
dusky wedge
i hope there wont be to hard/expensive to respec your atlas tree
abstract sable
What the heck the china page looks way cooler than america page
dusky wedge
america page? you have your own?
abstract sable
yeah they have their own entire asia website
dusky wedge
yeah but you said you have an own america page too
abstract sable
dusky wedge
what is american with that page? 😄
slender temple
International*
maiden coral
🧐
slender temple
@abstract sable you are aware that GGG is based in New Zealand so yeah
cobalt falcon
3.14 uncharted league
frail bluff
So there's no league bosses? that kinda suks
severe turret
eh? Maven is a league boss
brittle shale
no exp boss
league... idk you can spawn all 4 shaper guardians from ritual vessels @frail bluff. At the same time.
That's good enough for me I think
frail bluff
Maven from expansion. that' atlas based not league specific @severe turret
or am i confused LOL
barren crescent
Maven is indeed expansion boss
Afaik there has not been a single word does Ritual have unique bosses
severe turret
do we know anything about the new skill tag of "orb" that they put on Hydrosphere and if it will be going to older skills like Winter Orb?
severe turret
I imagine so as well, just don't know what it means
barren crescent
prolly 1 new 3-4pt cluster in tree having: orb skills have XYZ
severe turret
increased pulse frequency?
barren crescent
would make sense
oos would use that as well
worb... well I guess it could be worded that it does in the passive form
maiden coral
what orb skills do we have and what do they have in common? 🤔
barren crescent
mostly stationary duration based area dmg
maiden coral
inb4 poe 2 has an orb witch ascendancy
severe turret
I ask more b/c we are actively updating PoB code to try and get a head start on new stuff
this expansion/league looks far less complex then previous leagues in terms of "new" stuff
maiden coral
All we know atm is that Trinity Supp doesn't help Orbs
severe turret
from a PoB support point of view I mean
maiden coral
That's neat tho 👀 gl on the updating! Have teased ascendancies been added in?
severe turret
in internal builds yes
frail bluff
if the 2nd and 3rd ritual rewards also shown in first as grayed out, we can reset instance and farm. 
maiden coral
Big thanks to what you guys do and hope the rest of the 3.13 implementation will be smooth
severe turret
no problems, we enjoy
we are hoping to add Aegis support in the next drop for eHP calc with the new Elementalist rework
low gyro
just I little question thats not 100% clear to me:
If I defer an item is it apering only on the rituals in this zone/map or is it also availible in another one or not?
livid lake
It will appear in other maps yes, not sure if you can defer the same items multiple times in on zone though.
low gyro
yeah also if the ritual currency will stack in other zones cause we dont know the exact prices of some very strong items?
livid lake
the currency is only for the current zone
native sonnet
Tributes dont carry over
livid lake
so you want to leave that zone with as little left as possible whether deferring or buying items.
just bare in mind that the more items you defer you need to keep deferring them till you can buy them or they go back to full price.
oblique sleet
They said that if you defer an item a few times and then don't defer it, it will go back up in price each time you see it until its normal price then go away forever :'(
radiant lance
its probably only going to matter for like the big ticket items you arent likely to see again/very often
native sonnet
that was a pleasant surprise than i originally thought how it was gonna work
basically prevent instance crashing from deleting the hh u deferred for 10 maps
covert ibex
Does deferring keep reducing the price of the item? I thought it was just a small cost to make it show up again, so you can get a juiced ritual that gives you enough currency to buy it
bold basalt
covert ibex
So you see an item and you're basically guaranteed that item given enough rituals
not sure if I like that, unless there's a limit on how many times you can defer to incentivize doing juicier maps/rituals
oblique sleet
I think the limiting thing is that it might take you like ten maps to buy the super expensive item
Plus when you do juicier maps with more monsters, you get more monsters in your ritual which gives you more money faster
covert ibex
Is that even limiting? Even if it takes me 100 maps to get a HH that's still insane
oblique sleet
I wouldn't mind that. I want nice gear but I am too poor for it 😄
native sonnet
the opposite of that would be a bunch of complains on reddit "why give me this reward choice when i cant buy it, feelsbad etc"
warm lodge
The good drops are probably just ultra rare
covert ibex
I don't think it would a bad thing to force you to do fat maps to be able to purchase expensive items
sextants, chisels, alchs, corruptions, scarabs, watchstones are all there for a reason
oblique sleet
Probably so but the dude did say "you can also get high tier currency and other things, which might end up being the best way to get them" and he shows 4 exalts being deferred
cosmic anvil
This just means the economy will be extra fkd for casuals
cosmic anvil
If you don't do the mechanic and exalts rain like candy and you're just hoping for raw drops then your raw ex is gonna be worth like 1/5th
Why this game keep making me learn
native sonnet
ritual seems easy/simple and rewarding enough for casuals to get good rewards from them imo
cosmic anvil
but they're bringing back harvesting also to micro manage which will be insanely important for some specific items
i think of all leagues this one im gonna fomo the hardest
oblique sleet
You have to micro manage for harvest?
cosmic anvil
Oh yea it was way too big brain investment to go past T2 seeds
covert ibex
not really
you choose from pre-determined gardens which show you the rewards beforehand
basically zero management
oblique sleet
Yeah they made it super simple I thought. Now you just find a garden and choose between two things.
cosmic anvil
Every fkin time man, casual players try to gripe and everyone like LOL SO EZ
covert ibex
you don't plant seeds at all. you are given gardens, you choose one you want, you pick a reward to use or store
oblique sleet
And you can save 10 crafts
silver kettle
Harvest's new implementation doesn't require doing anything yeah
You literally just get given fully grown plants to harvest
Including all the higher tier ones
oblique sleet
@cosmic anvil no they just made harvest super simple
silver kettle
You don't have to do any management to get high tier plants
cosmic anvil
Do you still have to arrange crap near each other and plant color overlaps?
dusty cove
oh thank god, no more poe the farmvile eddition
oblique sleet
When you do a map you have a chance to find a garden. You choose to fight one of two things based off what you want. You get to use or save that craft
That's all harvest is anymore
cosmic anvil
I'm fine with them making some mechanics part of the main game but metamorph is lacking any use for casual play
oblique sleet
Can store 10 crafts and use them from your hideout whenever you want
severe turret
does re-rolling the tribute pool remove deferred items or make them lose 1 level of deferment?
oblique sleet
I don't think that's been mentioned, but if you can't afford it again, it may be wise to defer it again and then roll
native sonnet
no clue, i asked here and on reddit but didnt get a response yet =/
violet nymph
It'll be very easy to test that on the coast day 1
Hey viper are we getting all 40 of the skill buffs in the manifesto
oblique sleet
I think the manifesto was supposed to include all skill gems and ascendancy
violet nymph
And also are there any important nerfs that haven't been teased
oblique sleet
They just didn't want to post that and have people buying stuff to then send to standard with an advantage?
native sonnet
the manifesto was birthed from 1 of the patchnotes that had significant community negative reaction
so its meant to act as a bridge and explain the reason behind it to ease the reception to it and to give players time to mentally prepare to it in the patchnotes
barren crescent
Manifesto is like a briefing of whats the context of upcoming patch notes
without really saying what the changes are exactly
violet nymph
I wonder if this league will break the "this is a buff" curse that makes talking about ggg balancing really annoying
Imagine if they a c t u a l l y buffed molten strike
severe turret
buffing Winter Orb ..
silver kettle
I think people prefer to meme @violet nymph
violet nymph
I hate memes that override serious discussion
kindred schooner
i'm probably just not finding it, but has GGG mentioned whether we'd have a way of resetting our maven boss pool? If we get a boss in there we don't like, or one that doesn't fit with a new build, are we going to be able to do anything about it?
barren crescent
afaik the boss selection isn't random
you literally invite her
past the 1st boss maybe
kindred schooner
yea, but if you invite her for a boss that's fine on your league starter but bad for your next build, are you stuck?
native sonnet
U can always purposely fail/abandon the fight
barren crescent
and how that blocks your atlas progression?
kindred schooner
or maybe you realize inviting a boss interacted with another boss in a way you didn't expect and it really feels bad. I mean, there's lots of reasons you'd want to reset your boss pool. Just curious if we'll have one. If not, we'll have to take a moment to really consider it
normal kraken
is it confirmed when atlas passives are awarded? is it after each maven fight per region?
dusty umbra
nope no exact confirmation ; but basically you will have all by time u reach 32 stones
eager terrace
it is from the maven boss fights
bronze cave
Is Tribute per ritual or per instance?
eager terrace
per instance
bronze cave
Does that mean i should always do all rituals first beore spending anything?
eager terrace
you will be able to see the later rewards from the first ritual
bronze cave
ah, nice
eager terrace
even though you won't be able to buy them yet
bronze cave
yeah thats fine
native sonnet
U dont have to, but is probably the ideal way
No point of looking multiple times , especially since the high value ones are the end
eager terrace
but yeah I doubt there is a lot of reason to buy anything until you have done the last ritual you can handle
native sonnet
But if u r looking to grab a quick alch to use on a strongbox in the map u could
bronze cave
But can i buy items from the first ritual at the last one?
Or do i have to backtrack for that then?
native sonnet
Just becareful on spending too much before seeing the end u might not have enough to defer a hh if u spent most of them early
eager terrace
yeah all the rewards are tied to the same "stash"
but like the first ritual will have some of the rewards shrouded out
bronze cave
Just becareful on spending too much before seeing the end u might not have enoug...
Wdym before seeing the end, i thought i can see all rewards from the later rituals at the first one
sterile fulcrum
Don’t collect rewards till it’s done
Tf you guys smoking in here
If you fail you can still collect
native sonnet
no, some of them are hidden
u get to see more as u complete the rituals in the area
bronze cave
Okay, but since they all share the same stash space i never have to run back to the first ritual
native sonnet
correct
bronze cave
i can just always pick my reward at the last one, cool
eager terrace
you can see the item types / sizes but not fully see them from the first ritual
native sonnet
random thought - what if we defer everything in that half stash tab, they get added to the new half tab from the new zone right? (instead of replacing)
so if we defer the whole tab again
would it overflow having a 2nd tab ? 🤔
eager terrace
well tribute is probably too limited for anything like that
native sonnet
in a juiced map, or only defer the cheap big pixel items over multiple rounds
eager terrace
not sure if they mentioned a limit to number of defers
it's also not clear to me if a defer always shows up in the next instance
native sonnet
not that it serve any purpose but just curious lol
eager terrace
or just within X future instances
native sonnet
yeah same
bronze cave
tbh this stuff has me tempted to actually play some league mechanic before maps
native sonnet
for the invasion passive, since valuable unique refers to league specific unique, im thinking "valuable item" are league specific items (including unique) like incursion mod items/ veiled items/ delve mod items
does that sound right? or was there any other info on this?
silver kettle
it's not that simple 🙂
ocean narwhal
New raider node gives perma phasing?
devout osprey
ye
ocean narwhal
requesting animation of ranger completing the lab and vanishing from existence
A "valuable" item sounds like it'll be rerolled a bunch of times and it'll take the most valuable result
gain advantage on loot drops if you will
master of metal nerfed
eager terrace
viper is it possible to clarify whether deferred items are always in the next instance
or just guaranteed to reappear in a future instance
woeful blade
Looks like a future instance based on the wording
silver kettle
I don't know anything more about ritual than you do, sorry. didn't work on it at all.
eager terrace
hey no worries
woeful blade
And from the looks of it, it's like a progress bar you fill up over time, but if you don't defer it, it just gains some price back
dusty umbra
i bet you did have hand in minion nerfs though 😄
silver kettle
I actually didn't
bronze cave
And from the looks of it, it's like a progress bar you fill up over time, but if...
What did you mean by that? If you dont defer it, shouldnt it just not be guaranteed to show up again?
silver kettle
barely involved in balance this league either
woeful blade
That's not what it says in the FAQ
silver kettle
had my hands full with all the endgame stuff
dusty umbra
fair enough
woeful blade
When will Zana mods for Ritual be announced?
sterile brook
When will Zana mods for Ritual be announced?
They were teased by GGG (unintentionally?) in a video
Might change though
silver kettle
they're in the patch notes if Bex doesn't show them earlier
woeful blade
What did you mean by that? If you dont defer it, shouldnt it just not be guarant...
"Can you lose access to the rewards you've deferred?
If a deferred reward comes up again in a later area, you should either purchase it or defer it again. If you don't defer it again, it doesn't completely vanish immediately, but it does recover some of its original cost. If you allow it to get all the way back to its starting value, then it will stop reappearing for you."
-FAQ from two days ago
tranquil aurora
hydrosphere's first line seems to imply we can 6-link one Hydrosphere, and move+reset it with a seperate hydrosphere on CwC setup. Do we know if that's how it works?
bronze cave
"Can you lose access to the rewards you've deferred?
If a deferred reward comes ...
Yeah i just reread it, so they only vanish if you ignore them multiple times
bronze cave
viper is it possible to clarify whether deferred items are always in the next in...
Here's your answer
eager terrace
niceu
woeful blade
Huh, interesting
bronze cave
I swear, my Bex response rate the last few leagues has been stellar
eager terrace
I feel like it probably needs to work that way
or people will lose track of everything
bronze cave
Items you have defrred from previous instances are highlighted i think
eager terrace
right but let's say you have like multiple items deferred
and one of them doesn't show for like 6 maps
bronze cave
yeah
eager terrace
it may come back alongside some other deferred item
it'll feel bad if you just forget you had something deferred and now have to choose to pay or let it go
bronze cave
It would also be weird if you want a good rare item and then you dont see it for 30 maps and by the time you do you dont need it anymore
eager terrace
rather than more like once you start a defer you know you either keep paying or not
and that yeah
it just feeling like it is taking too long for that deferred item you really want to even come back
native sonnet
also make sense for it to be the next 1 (deterministic) so u know u can juice ur next map and buy it
rather than juicing maps and the item didnt show up
frigid holly
Weren't we due to get full details on all the ascendency changes today? Just the balance manifesto provided right? I didn't miss it soemhow?
silver kettle
full details on ascendancy changes are coming literally any minute now
vast gazelle
me waiting for poe website to work
native sonnet
wonder what happened/causing the crash lol
oblique sleet
prob 500 billion people refresing the page to see if it's up yet
native sonnet
should be less ppl than announcement
ocean narwhal
they up