the [redacted] leak file Kamil already put in the new songs
#1┃mirage-league
swift pagoda
website -> profile -> digital downloads if you want to listen to the [redacted] soundtrack
devout osprey
🛠️ A channel for in-depth discussion of the current heist league and upcoming [redacted] leagues' mechanics. No random poe image spam or narrating your poe experience. PPLaugh
past obsidian
Can we discuss the leaks here
barren crescent
No
wet plaza
the [redacted] leak file Kamil already put in the new songs
Mp3 
swift pagoda
I don't have the ears or sound system for flac
barren crescent
You can only hear up to 30Hz anyway, smh
fair prairie
hype just a few hours away
barren crescent
!rule 9
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barren crescent
!rule9
brisk capeBOT
Rule 9: No spoilers either real or made up for new and unreleased Path of Exile content
north dragon
!rule69
brisk capeBOT
I swear to god these horny bastards...
hollow osprey
!rule34
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ಠ_ಠ
eager charm
No
violet nymph
what about rule 9, speculation allowed?
velvet palm
Trying to have fun? Not allowed
fair prairie
i get why speculation isn't allowed. could be fake speculation, a bummer but i get it
slender temple
well
at this point speculation will be suspect
because of well . reasons
before the patch yesterday it was ok ;o
silver kettle
@swift pagoda did well on the reads I have to say
swift pagoda
sharp iron
Here we go, ritual leauge info
subtle drum
wtf is this thing
sharp iron
It's your tribute currency you spend to buy items
zealous monolith
A deterministic breach. Now that looks fun.
sharp iron
Huh, those were base items, not unique items that were revealed
zealous monolith
Oh my the vessels can be used to juice maps.
subtle drum
is this single target league
sharp iron
Probably not
Yeah they have a boss, but I don't think it's anymore single target then something like Beyond
zealous monolith
The league seems to favor clear while the Maven seems to favor bossing.
maiden coral
what did they say about heist's return?
summer valve
basically unchanged
wooden cloud
what did they say about harvest? I missed it
devout osprey
yes vauge
wooden cloud
also, new league looks hype
I was gonna give up and resort to playing standard, but expansion is wayy too enticing
maiden coral
Can't see anything about it online @devout osprey
@wooden cloud You pick 1 each from two pools of mods everytime you see the grove, and then you can store up to 10 in a horticraft in your hideout i think
devout osprey
it was in harvest pretty weak stuff
maiden coral
oof yeah it looks bad, why does it vanish eventually 😂
wooden cloud
I wonder if they removed certain harvest crafts
violet nymph
Ritual League. Damn that looks tight
maiden coral
wait there's no more elementalist herald stuff
solar condor
Herald build crazy op, no?
wooden cloud
is there an image of the reworked tree?
herald stacking was nerfed a while ago, although I believe herald BV is still good
wooden cloud
ascendancy rework for me is the most exciting part; that and harvest
yeah heralds are gone
maiden coral
True actually, would be nice to see what new builds will arise
Ritual is interesting for deterministic shopping 🤔
final radish
oh boy we'll see if aura-stacking is gone 🦀 🦀
crisp tree
f split bp
maiden coral
they're nerfing blueprint splits lmao ish
dapper moon
Is it still gonna be the same atlas system? With conqs. and Sirus etc.
zealous monolith
I missed the answer to the question of whether a region's trees affect other regions. Did someone catch that?
blissful onyx
It looks like you can change the tree on each region?
sharp iron
My question is "if you're in an area with both Metamorph and Ritual active, can you gain an organ from a ritual boss?"
wooden cloud
get your split blueprints now
blissful onyx
Delete them. It's the only ethical move.
bleak crypt
does somebdy have the ascendancy pics for deadeye and inquisitor
silver kettle
wooden cloud
wait didn't someone on this server say "weapon damage applies to spells" or something like that
devout osprey
for inquisitor node
wooden cloud
prophet
ocean narwhal
Does that include elemental damage rolls?
devout osprey
yes
slender temple
The real question : if i defer payment on an item but dont defer it next time i see it . will it not appear again? or better yet can i cycle through deferring items to keep them alive and grab them all
weak sorrel
did they mention anything about uber lab requirement?
devout osprey
no
weak sorrel
sadness
ocean narwhal
summoned golems are resummoned 4 seconds after being killed
...minion instability golems?
wet plaza
absolute madlad
slender temple
wait
can we reduce the cd on that
ocean narwhal
I wanna see if ascendant gets any of this or if she's left out in the dust
probably not, but with enough golems...
wet plaza
i also misread the deadeye node with mirage archers and substituted blink mirror clones and was like 
slender temple
suicide stone golems
wet plaza
I wanna see if ascendant gets any of this or if she's left out in the dust
they confirmed ascendant changes
wooden cloud
if CD can be reduced, maw of mischief looks spicy
wet plaza
just do it on necro instead
ocean narwhal
Sort of want scorch build with those new boots too
dunno if it's plausible to get scorch on a build without getting sap too though
wet plaza
but yeah a bit sad for the single deadeye summoner enabler 🙂
ocean narwhal
Scorch+shaper of storms
slender temple
level 4
Bex_GGG
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You can defer more than one item.```
covert nacelle
I just decided that my next build is ignite elementalist off that ascendancy alone lmfao
2x obliteration + shaper of flames = fat chaos explosion ignite proliferation
wet plaza
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589531603118587957/796845910449455134/unknown.png shouldnt boost oblit explosion?
covert nacelle
the oblit explosion chaos damage can (and will) now ignite
wet plaza
oh you mean that, but you dont get the more
covert nacelle
therefore I can scale it with ignite rather than chaos stuff
and I can also use that one cluster jewel that prolifs ignites you inflict
I'm going to burn the world down
chilly hare
I was planning to start with a glad build but now i'm thining self-cast something
wet plaza
lucid stone
Elementalist golem minion instability build? Cause you get your golems back every 4 seconds?
lilac saffron
Imagine if you can split craftable watchstones
swift pagoda
what's the CD on this thing ?
wooden cloud
Do we know what elevated modifiers are?
warm lodge
Deadeye 55% less damage taken or just me lol
swift pagoda
T0 influence mods
silver kettle
Another new endgame reward, The Maven's Orb, affects items that have two or more influence modifiers. When used on such an item, it randomly upgrades one of these influence modifiers and removes the others. If the modifier that's being upgraded is already at the highest tier, it'll upgrade to a new elevated tier.
swift pagoda
@silver kettle any chance you can clarify the CD on Bastion of Elements ?
silver kettle
it has the exact same mechanics as the other aegis skills
swift pagoda
thanks
lilac saffron
I wonder if you can woke orb after mawen orbing
lucid stone
Water + Lightning skill! Woo! That's sorta what I wanted!
Shame it looks like you can only have one hydrosphere though
swift pagoda
3000 damage shield here I come 😄
silver kettle
yeah, for anyone curious the average build at level 90 takes 25-30 notables
(including asc)
warm lodge
what do you mean by notables
copper kernel
slender temple
the giant ones are keystones
fair prairie
only 25-30 makes me sad. too many travel nodes. Wish more could go into interesting things
that means less then a third of your points go to notables the rest is travel
lucid stone
Blackflame + replica Alberon's warpath?
vernal ivy
I'm sorry if I'm missing something, but do golemancers no longer get increased golem damage per summoned golem?
lucid stone
You can use intuitive leaps and threadsif you want lots of notables. 🤷
silver kettle
I'm sorry if I'm missing something, but do golemancers no longer get increased g...
that's correct. it was considered trade-off for golem-focused elementalists getting much more out of their remaining ascendancy points than they used to
lucid stone
If you take battlemage with spellslinger, do you get even more added damage, or does the added damage from your weapon only apply once?
lucid stone
And if a projectile has 'always pierces' on it, is it able to chain off a wall, or no because pierce needs to happen first?
ocean narwhal
I don't see why it wouldn't add it twice, unless they make spell slinger "battlemage" too
minor oyster
I thought they fixed the interaction between different types of projectile behavior
ocean narwhal
that seance passive (which adds up to 20 tormented spirits to a zone) sounds wacky
minor oyster
@lucid stone yes it would still be able to chain off a wall
pine pewter
with the deadeye rework do you guys think deadeye will be as viable as gladiator for bleed bow builds?
wet plaza
assuming nothing changes for glad i'd still say glad will be the non super highend build
minor oyster
lancing steel deadeye 👀
lucid stone
I'm gonna do kb deadeye and then elemental warding ignite elementalist or somethin
violet nymph
Fireball builds in delve lol
ocean narwhal
Deadeye looks like it might be better for bleedstacking with that one keystone
violet nymph
Also FINALLY elementalist is good HOLY shit
ocean narwhal
because of rupture stacking as well
Elementalist has some cool stuff
I wish to shock and scorch at once
wet plaza
kinda miss the old rupture stuff like multi and lgoh
lucid stone
Oh wow, I missed that. Guess you have to use an elder ring or thief's torment now.
thin vine
hmm would i rather have the elementalist shock node and EE or the elementalist fire node for ignite
fire node + flame wall actually, can't use flame wall if i want to stick to lightning ignites with EE
wary stratus
I am annoyed with the hierophant changes
ocean narwhal
elaborate? I'm not too familiar with hierophant
thin vine
it ends up being a minor dps nerf if you have to use multitotem support instead
wary stratus
no longer summon 2 totems at once, and lost the 6% increased damage per enemy killed recently
there's no way in hell I'm using multiple totem support, I'm playing ballista totems and have 8 totems already
wary stratus
I don't understand why Arcane Blessing and Illuminated Devotion are spell specific either
like would it really break the game if those worked with attacks fully?
wet plaza
tbh never used hiero for any atk based totems
wary stratus
hiero is really the only viable ascendancy for ballistas right now, nothing else comes close
wet plaza
was assa/champ/deadeye for me mostly
ocean narwhal
I'm looking at those +4 minimum power and +4 minimum endurance charges though
wary stratus
mostly because ritual of awakening is ridiculous on ballistas, the rest of the ascendancy is mediocre but every other ascendancy offers basically nothing for pure ballista builds
wet plaza
dunno i'd rather take champion for impale ballista or assa for poison over that
woeful blade
If you die during a ritual, what would happen? Does it reset to the point where you can activate it again?
wary stratus
I mean if I was playing physical ballistas sure I guess
doing explosive arrow though, so it needs to be elemental or generic
wet plaza
true but the lack of anything outside of 2 big nodes made me never roll hiero
swift pagoda
Heiro archmage looking decent
wary stratus
I hope pure ballistas get more attention in 3.13 than we've seen so far because it's a really fun playstyle, just hamstrung because it's not on GGG's radar for some reason
wet plaza
tbh i'd like them to revert the placement change
lucid stone
Phys wand ballistas is one of my favorite builds now
But it's so hard to get a good wand, and there's not a lot of skills to choose from
thin vine
so put ballistas on the list of builds that lost their only good ascendancy, next to cobra lash and sst
ocean narwhal
Trinity support looks interesting
wet plaza
ascendancy still is fine tho and alternatives exist depending on skill
covert nacelle
tri-ele hit with trinity support i guess
ocean narwhal
technically you only need two elements
the resonance with the 3rd will be super high but that's meh whatever
so it'd work well with Ele Equi
lucid stone
So resonance is basically a 25% more and a 10% pen if I'm reading that right?
thin vine
we don't know what it is at max level, and also you can't compare it to nothing since it takes up a support gem slot
ocean narwhal
3% more per 5 resonance
we don't know the resonance limit, but I'm assuming it's 50
How the heck am I meant to detonate my golems? maw of mischief or something?
or that one flask+belt combo
lilac saffron
They might put +1 summoned totem to tree, who knows
wary stratus
.. there already is +1 totem on the tree, ancestral bond, and panopticon + watchtowers for ballista totems, why would they add more mandatory nodes?
thin vine
How the heck am I meant to detonate my golems? maw of mischief or something?
does it count as dying if you weapon swap w/ golem gem on weapon?
ocean narwhal
They have to hit low life
thin vine
swap back within 4 seconds and you get more golems... hopefully
ocean narwhal
you COULD use something like infernal legion
but it doesn't work because golems are immune to elemental damage if you take the preceding node
wary stratus
not sure why you're trying to kill your golems, but: Minion Instability + Umbilicus Immortalis or Mother's Embrace + Coruscating Elixir
covert nacelle
minin instability is the why
ocean narwhal
Umbilicus immortalis doesn't work on golems
Mothers embrace consumes flask charges on summon right?
wary stratus
uh, Fleshcrafter can kill your minions too IIRC
I don't know if it works with Minion Instability though
wet plaza
Flesh crafter might be interesting but the 4s cooldown is rough
covert nacelle
no they wouldn't get low life
wet plaza
Flesh crafter and mother's embrace with the take chaos damage flask might work?
covert nacelle
chaos doesn't bypass the es so they'd still be tanky as shit
wet plaza
Ah fuck yeah you're right
covert nacelle
besides, converting the life to es kind of messes with MI
ocean narwhal
yeah because more life the better
the only method I can see is mothers embrace + coruscating elixir, or just letting them die normally somehow
wet plaza
Time to make tavukai work for SRS and golems
wary stratus
yeah I think Mother's Embrace with Coruscating Elixir would be the only way tbh
sustaining flask charges sounds painful but it would kill the golems as they're auto-summoned
ocean narwhal
... I have a sort of awful alternative solution
fortress covenant
actually that's super bad nevermind
vernal escarp
Thought on what this is? from the new passive tree
odd patrol
deep wave
Did i do the math right? A lv20 mirage archer with the new deadeye node is 83% MORE damage
neat rover
that elementalist nerf to golemancer is a big weirdchamp from GGG
vast gazelle
yeah i think golemancer died to give selfcast and triggered elementalist life
silver kettle
so out of curiosity what makes it feel like a golemancer nerf
when I was balance reviewing elementalist it felt very much like golems came out pretty even
vast gazelle
lemme reread and compare
ah
so the thing its missing now is the immune to elemental damage, correct?
swift pagoda
the exposure buff should compensate
vast gazelle
no i cant read, thats there
swift pagoda
that's still there, you dropped 180% inc dmg
vast gazelle
its just the - yeah
swift pagoda
this line got removed
silver kettle
right, but now you get to care about all of your ascendancy points instead of only 4
vast gazelle
okay, i think dead is an overstatement. i had it in my head that there were 3 +1 golem nodes on live elemancer and theres still 2
swift pagoda
if you want to go full damage grab exposure and the shock node
vast gazelle
yeah i think golemancer is better off from this tbh
swift pagoda
I'd recommend bastion tho, I think it's the best node on there
vast gazelle
you get access to more consistent better shocks and better exposure now, for the cost of 180% inc damage
vast gazelle
^ if you dont care about pure more damage you go the primal aegis one now which seems worth if i understand its function
swift pagoda
the 4 second resummon is soo good
vast gazelle
yeah the rework doesnt solve golem survivability issues but it is qol + more damage or tank which is a net buff
swift pagoda
it's a ~3000 dmg buffer with a 10 sec refresh
barren crescent
MI Golems 🤔 with auto summoning
vast gazelle
afaik golemancers cant run content with big phys/chaos damage because golems melt anyway
and that was the biggest issue the build had
swift pagoda
ye now you just chill for 4 sec
vast gazelle
@silver kettle im kinda sad that herald builds died for good as a non broken herald elementalist player but hey this version looks more fun
queen arrow
Doesn't matter if golems melt now, they resurrect themself in 4 seconds with golemancer
vast gazelle
that might make the difference tbh
queen arrow
dammit, was gonna mention something, but I forgot what it was, whats got the minion is immune to damage for set amount of time when summoned?
barren crescent
the auto summon is massive buff to non golemancers
I feel its very minor for actual golemancers
silver kettle
dammit, was gonna mention something, but I forgot what it was, whats got the min...
Blessed Rebirth on clusters
queen arrow
Yes, that one
vast gazelle
that might be worth as qol now
queen arrow
You could prob just grab that and your golems survavibility should be long enough for your golems to do stuff before they die again for 4 seconds
allowing for glass cannon golems
vast gazelle
always have golems up because theyll be invulnerable and die on a rotation
queen arrow
And if you abuse the jewels and chain, you can have a stupid amount of golems up constantly
allowing you to focus on their damage or your own stats without having to worry about golem survivability
also abusing renewal would be cool too, since they be switching between full life and death
stacking call to slaughter too is actually funny
wary stratus
@silver kettle not sure if you can answer this, but is there an ascendancy (internally) pure ballista totem builds are balanced around, or is it purely seen as a secondary damage source for bow builds currently? similar to how golems are heavily balanced around elementalist / necromancer
gloomy mango
So do we have patch notes now? Like has the new tree been released so I can start planning builds?
silver kettle
definitely cannot answer that sorry
queen arrow
We do not
silver kettle
So do we have patch notes now? Like has the new tree been released so I can sta...
they will be released in 5 days, though all the changed ascendancies will be shown the day before
lunar stirrup
guys what's the different between using the blood vessel on ritual and map device?
silver kettle
you use it on a ritual to fill it, then on a map device to add the stored monsters to rituals in that map
native sonnet
hmm, harvest craft saved to horticrafting station in hideout, i guess rip div card gambling? since they cant drop in hideout
maiden coral
Maven Orb is a pretty interesting gamble, can enhance or cut the affix you actually need
queen arrow
Supposedly, it can go beyond tier 1
native sonnet
just repeat till success, then harvest craft the other mod back on
silver kettle
ez
native sonnet
50:50
maiden coral
Maybe it stays in the inventory slot Sieg? Like how Navali div cards work
native sonnet
for the 1 that double yes that could work, but the 1 that convert into different cards wont fit
maiden coral
Ah :(
sharp iron
So you first use it on the ritual site to fill it up, then after filling it up, you use it on a map device? So each vessel will be used on both site and map?
native sonnet
cant wait to see some 5 upgraded influenced mods item lol
use empty on ritual to capture, use captured on map to release and fight
lilac saffron
If you can maven a magic item you can also imprint for woke ig
sharp iron
Do you think we'll get a section on PoE ninja for bosses in vessels then?
native sonnet
probably, anything tradeable and of value will be on there
sharp iron
Organs aren't on there though
native sonnet
cuz organs itself has no value, the mods are the value
sharp iron
True
native sonnet
this is probably more akin to beast orbs
sharp iron
Yeah
native sonnet
though not sure if there's any real "value" to them
ehh i could see ppl bulk buying them to generate ton of tribute and cleanout the favors like all the minor currencies and stacked deck etc
mint bloom
@silver kettle elementalist ignite multiplier now says it needs the highest damage to be fire, does that mean hexblast ignite won't benefit?
native sonnet
based on the way it is worded/described, yes
ocean narwhal
how IS hexblast ignite
wary stratus
hexblast ignite doesn't really make sense as an elementalist anyway, the main benefit of hexblast ignite is the "all your damage can ignite" component, which you already get from new elementalist
ocean narwhal
also sup redrach lol
mint bloom
Sup lol
I did hexblast ignite elementalist in heist and flashback, I liked it
Problem is you get rekt by hexproof and avoid ailment maps, so rolling maps is frustrating
queen arrow
I don't see how occultist isn't just better for hexblast then elementalist
ocean narwhal
old elementalist, not the new one
maiden coral
small tidbit but i love the trinity support ui looks
silver kettle
@swift pagoda my bad, elementalist's new Aegis has a shorter recharge delay than the other ones.
swift pagoda
how much is it
silver kettle
I'll see if I can get it squeezed into the faq
swift pagoda
if you can share ofc
silver kettle
cause there's another important thing about it that would be nice to mention while we're there
maiden coral
the atlas passives only affect the maps of that region, or is it just a trade off between having better x or y league mechanics
native sonnet
region
maiden coral
Ayt, thanks
Would be interesting how that affects what maps are good/high demand
also mindfulness where to use your master missions 😂
past obsidian
I don't understand what aegies does
swift pagoda
this but way stronger
it's a ~3000 damage buffer on a <10 sec cd by what viper confirmed
past obsidian
Wait actual survivability tools for elementalist?
swift pagoda
normal aegis mechanics recharge in 10
wary stratus
10 seconds definitely seemed too long for an ascendancy node
swift pagoda
if it's 6 to 8 sec it's the best buffer node on the tree
at 10 it would be great, I played Magna Eclipsis necro, that buff almost never went off
silver kettle
pssst the trailer has footage of it in action
past obsidian
What is primal aegis going to absorb? all 3 elements?
wary stratus
can probably figure out the timer just from watching the trailer, exact value would be nice though 😛
maiden coral
how big can we get it, 100 per notable
wooden cloud
I think viper noted the average for builds is 25-30 notables
wary stratus
30 sounds about right to me
wooden cloud
seems pretty good
maiden coral
megalomaniac and thread of hope might help boost numbers 
swift pagoda
my builds have around 27 to 35 without building for them specifically, I presume around 30 average
wary stratus
my (not at all fixed) hierophant ballista build has 33 notables
native sonnet
1passive voices
maiden coral
eager charm
27 notables in a lvl 80 build
past obsidian
My smol brain cannot handle how to use Trinity support gem
native sonnet
did u use normal mediums or megalomaniac? 🧠
wary stratus
elemental's primal aegis cd seems to be 5 seconds, from watching the trailer
eager charm
you dont unless:
EE
you like dealing multi type damage
past obsidian
I hope something cool was done with Raider
swift pagoda
found the effect
past obsidian
I felt like it needed more of a rework than inquisitor tbh
wary stratus
25:58 (hit, goes down to 3105) to 26:03 (recharges back to 3300 after 5 seconds of no damage)
swift pagoda
yep works like aegis, recharges even if you haven't depleted it
5 seconds is the best defensive node in the game
holy
maiden coral
trinity and EE are a hand in hand kinda thing right
swift pagoda
hits only, but not standing in bad and having golem regen compensates the DoTs
slender temple
what is "battlemage" ? is it a new support skill?
i see some discussion on removing stats from items and putting battlemage on them instead
wary stratus
new keyword that makes weapon damage add to spells
slender temple
but what are hte stats for battlemage? that same reddit thread also discusses instruments of virtue which isnt battlemage
you sure?
eager charm
yes
wary stratus
"Gain added spell damage equal to the damage of your main hand weapon."
eager charm
viper confirmed it
wary stratus
it's in the inquisitor picture
slender temple
this is just a description of instruments of virtue. battlemage is another thing listed there but not described?
past obsidian
I still can't think of a good battle mage combination
slender temple
hmmm
eager charm
my god..........poe plays cant read 
wary stratus
the description at the bottom is literally an explanation of battlemage
past obsidian
Reading in 2021
slender temple
oh i read that and the top part and thought it was a clarification of that
ahh
past obsidian
Elementalist lost the elemental leech lol
eager charm
slender temple
ok i see
native sonnet
well, the obvious broken ones got addressed
just go to wiki, list of unique weapons, sort by damage and go from there
slender temple
so can you make a 1k pdps 2h weapon and then use that as a base for spell casting (and conversion) with battlemage? (and instruments of virtue) or just use one of the two uniques that has it now with a diff ascendancy?
wary stratus
I'm kinda weirded out by elementalist's new Heart of Destruction, why does Convergence have forced 50% downtime on bosses lol
slender temple
im sure someone will make something disgusting with damage conversion build
eager charm
I've already come up with an idea 
slender temple
anyways too much thinking with very little info. on the 12th well get some real info. like what they doing to the precious scion 😉
summer elm
Is there way to manually stop the ritual or do you have to logout?
slender temple
its in map
so you can probably escape via portal
summer elm
I really hope it has button to turnoff like delirium does
maiden coral
Will there be adds in the Maven boss rush 👀
slender temple
undead versions of sirus shaper elder and some other abominations will appear in large hordes to replenish our flasks
obviously 😄
languid path
all I want is if I kill all 4 guardians at the same time shaper should just pop out
I dont even care if he drops loot
maiden coral
Hooo minotaur
slender temple
i wanna know about the phasing bosses
what shenanigans will the solo version have
maiden coral
Innocence, Brine King, Primordial Blocks, Arakaali
slender temple
yughol
goddess
malachai
kitava
and the list goes on ;o
actually tyhere arre two kitavas in maps. lord of the grey, and kitava the destroyer.
maiden coral
Can you have the Maven watch both halves of the Twilight Temple Map
So we can finally get solaris lunaris together in a map fight
slender temple
@maiden coral no unique map bosses atm
slender temple
for maps with multiple bsoses do we get them all at once
or do we choose teh boss we want to fight.. vaal temple comes to mind as well as the rogue exile maps
wooden cloud
Has It been stated if any harvest crafts have been removed?
maiden coral
Not that i know of, wonder when that will be discussed more
maiden coral
Or maybe even on manifesto?
harsh bone
Do we know if we can replace the bosses in maven arena?
maiden coral
you can choose what you put in i think, so we have some control at least
Not sure about removing
harsh bone
I was thinking of putting the first bosses I face as soon as possible just to start the cycle, then replace them later for easier / harder ones as I see fit
I hope we can change them
harsh bone
Are you sure? I thought once you build 3, they stay there forever
maiden coral
Cause it'd be weird to immediately do a boss rush again after fighting 1 more boss
harsh bone
I'm not sure if it's always guaranteed, she has to invite you first
So it might be like harvest, where you can do it every 3 maps or so
harsh bone
Oh you're right, you build them up each time until you have 10 and they stay there after that?
Where you can repeat it each time
Cuz having to do 10 each time is kind of too much
maiden coral
ehhh looking at sirus cycles that need 20+ maps, it doesn't seem that bad
Also once she's interested, you can control which bosses are added by calling her on the map device
harsh bone
When you put it that way, 10 doesn't seem a whole lot, plus you can progress both at the same time which is great
maiden coral
yeah, that's pretty neat
I guess it's tedious that you have to do it for each of the 8 regions, but it's a good long term investment with the bonuses to league mechanics it gives
fair prairie
also believe he said you can buy the end game invitations.
harsh bone
You're finishing up the atlas anyways, so you're getting everything by the time you complete the atlas
fair prairie
had a bit going on so may have gotten confused with the rituals i will have to rewatch
harsh bone
It's just the atlas trees are so cool, the sooner you get them the better. I want them to be activated as soon as possible
maiden coral
yeah 😄
harsh bone
I wonder if they tweaked the spawn chance for each region
Like, will we get more legion in an area with legion tree just because it's there
As a stealth buff
maiden coral
minor nodes help with frequency i believe
harsh bone
Some do yes
hoary snow
I'm just happy to see another simple league with a nice reward structure
fair prairie
yeah the 10 one is tradable
hoary snow
there's both the post-kill loot explosion AND the shopping mechanic, which is lovely
fair prairie
just re-watched
maiden coral
Really, where in the vid?
fair prairie
somewhere around here https://youtu.be/aYGSoRaUZ8Q?t=363
maiden coral
Hope they continue Heist's smart loot in the store
Ahh thanks, i didn't finish the qna
harsh bone
Wait, so you get an item to activated to do the 10 boss fight? That you can craft?
fair prairie
that is what it sounds like to me
maiden coral
so you can do an entire day of nothing but maven fights whack
harsh bone
I hope they clear all the Maven systems before the league
Because I thought the invitation is a portal at the end of a map, not an item that drop then you activate
Oh he actually said "Invitation are quest items" Until the one with 10 bosses
fair prairie
yeah like i said only the end game ones are tradable
fair prairie
it's all going to be fun eitherway. pretty hyped for the league and the expansion both. I like the more simple leagues best. I just want to kill things and get loot and that seems to be pretty much what this is
harsh bone
I agree, the league pair well with the expansion
maiden coral
it's also neat that this is another layer they can shake the atlas up every league
harsh bone
I think the answer is yes, but can we defer any item we find? As in, a mirror would never be too expensive to defer. We'll always be able to defer it
harsh bone
it's also neat that this is another layer they can shake the atlas up every leag...
It's very good to fill in the empty gap between sirus fights
harsh bone
They will be in future expansions
fair prairie
can't wait until he is gone lol
harsh bone
I like him. You don't see him that often, and the way he pronounces Oriath is amusing to me
maiden coral
you forgot bEURN to the ground
fair prairie
ehh all the visual clutter in the fight bugs my eyes out plus the map design itself with all the zoom in and zoom out is annoying as hell
harsh bone
You can just sell the fight ;p
fair prairie
yeah but the way it's set up that wastes time
don't like sitting around awaiting. i wanna play ya know
harsh bone
The atlas tree seem to add around 6%-10% chance for the desired mechanic to be spawned. I hope it's more impactful than I think
Oh true, I forgot about that
fair prairie
%6-10% is pretty impactful i would think
considering how often you encounter league mechanics
harsh bone
If you're specializing in a mechanic, you'd wana see it as often as possible, like the legion nodes do not add % chance for legion to be spawned. Feels like a waste when you go 10 maps with 1 legion
I'm hoping they stealth buffed these odds
maiden coral
wonder how this affects scarab value
fair prairie
may not effect it depending on how they interact
i think scarabs would just add additional so it should be fine
harsh bone
I'm sure they'll be less valuable, since people are getting more sulphite per map, way more
20% increased, with 10% of getting double
Never mind what I said about legion, the big node gives 10% to encounter a legion
Each with a general, feels good
Can get ~92% increased chance of it being maraketh from new watchstones
sharp iron
What are the normal odds on a general appearing?
native sonnet
not known
sharp iron
Only time I ever saw a general was in a tier 3 monolith room in Incursion
Which guarantees both sides have a general
harsh bone
Now, it's 100% chance to get 2 generals
fair prairie
get general pretty often you just have to be really fast to get to the edges
native sonnet
100% "more"
harsh bone
Doesn't that mean it's 100% to be a general
fair prairie
one of those weird cases where increase is better then more
harsh bone
That's not consistent with increase and more. Why lol
native sonnet
?
native sonnet
u do 100 dmg, 100% more dmg, u do 200 dmg
sharp iron
I suppose it's possible I've had generals spawn, but didn't free then so I didn't realize it.
It honestly really suprised me when I was fighting in the Incursion room and heard the voice line of someone yelling "Traitors!", since that was just something I had never heard before.
harsh bone
Oh okay. You're right
maiden coral
Wonder if there's a passive node to increase odds of getting a lab trial 
since we can reallocate out
native sonnet
not a league mechanic so probably not
fair prairie
all the different words get confusing pretty easy sometimes lol
maiden coral
% to drop upgraded offerings tho
harsh bone
all the different words get confusing pretty easy sometimes lol
Especially when it's a second language lol
Are they releasing the full atlas tree on the 10th ?
sharp iron
Haven't all of the Atlas ascendancies already been revealed?
I thought I saw that on Reddit
fair prairie
i want to take a deeper look at the inquistor was curious if one of the new ascendancies will work like wise oak. but didn't get a good look at the wording. If both strength and intel is the same % I wonder if that means it counts both as the lesser so you get to double dip crit
native sonnet
zana - no
sharp iron
I said "Atlas Ascendancies". I was talking about the passives on the Atlas.
And thanks, Viper
silver kettle
It's fun reading the speculation based on just seeing the images :D
native sonnet
gotta say, the torment 1 came up better than expected
violet nymph
hey viper, does every influenced mod have a t0 now lol
harsh bone
The wording on the incursion tree says
"Area have 3% chance to grant an additional Alva mission on completion"
So, we still have the same default chance, but when it occurs and lands on alva, there's a 3% of getting two instead of one. Right?
native sonnet
yes
storm crown
Ritual looks really solid from just The few pictures and vids we got. I like loads of monsters and this seem to do just that
native sonnet
just wait for the reddit post where ppl spent their last tribute on refresh and cant defer a hh or mirror
harsh bone
It's on them if they do it, you can see all the items when you first open it
native sonnet
i mean after u bought everything u wanted, had leftover with nothing good left to buy, and hit refresh
sharp iron
Were there any Synthesis icons in Atlas passives?
sharp iron
Thank you for that!
maiden coral
Wait lol torment needs to have touched monsters for benefits?
jolly radish
you defer a good item for 20% of the cost, so if a HH showed up foir 40k and you had 7k tribute, you couldnt defer it so you'd just lose a HH? I mean they said higher tier maps with "offerings" or vessels will give nuts loot and tribute, so I assume by the time ur doing those maps, rare items will show up, however if you defer the item did they say it shows up in the NEXT map so u can immediately mega juice it with 4 vessels etc to ensure u can afford the big item or?
sharp iron
Blight is going to work very well with this mechanic. Since for the most part you desperately want oils at the start to get your ideal aniont, but then oils aren't too useful after that.
harsh bone
Are you sure it's 20% to defer?
jolly radish
yes
sharp iron
So you start with focusing on Blight, then refund the points once you have your oil
native sonnet
yes, 20% is in the video, and while they didn't specify immediately next zone, it seems reasonable to assume so
jolly radish
violet nymph
lol i literally just heard that 20% number in the baeclast
native sonnet
and i imagine things like hh/mirror will cost alot, and most likely are spawngated behind using the captured vessels
jolly radish
^ hopefully
native sonnet
so u should only even see them when using the vessels which mean have at least enough to defer it
jolly radish
my assumption is that high tier items and t1 uniques wont show up unless mega juiced which means you can either afford them or defer them for another juicy map
sharp iron
Imagine finding a Headhunter, and then Defering that like 10 times in a row until you eventually have the ability to buy it
native sonnet
that or high tier maps giving more tribute, etc
violet nymph
it's also important to note that you can keep paying the 20% cost as it gets lower and lower so you're basically renting the item for a long time until you can finally juice a map enough to get it lol
maiden coral
I hope there arent stuff you see that you cant defer
harsh bone
So it's almost impossible to defer a mirror at the start lol feelsbad
jolly radish
yeah but Chris was REALLY adamant that shit like that wont show up early
he was like players DEFINITELY wont be getting a HH, they DEFINITELY wont find one that easily
lol
native sonnet
just hope ur instance dont crash before u can defer it in the 5th map or smthg ;|
jolly radish
in b4 first t1 map HH and mirror
maiden coral
Itd suck to have to pass up on a goldrim or tabula cause you cant afford 20% of it yet or something
jolly radish
3 mirror drop from betrayal
lilac saffron
It will probably be the easiest way to get an HH regardless
Apart from ancient orbs
wet plaza
jolly radish
yeah i'd love to do an early levelling ritual and be like oh tabula.. ah no points gg 15
harsh bone
I thought you could defer any items with the amount they give you. No matter what it is
lilac saffron
But it doesnt really count
maiden coral
😞
jolly radish
no you need 20% of the tribute to defer, if its super rare like 40k+ and you have 7k tribute, you wont be able to, but im assuming unless its literally a HH, mirror or shavs or something it should be deferable
im interested to know what items show up, if anything
imagine alt quality stuff \o/
harsh bone
I do realize that now, probably won't be much of an issue. But those unlucky few will hate it
jolly radish
getting alt quality gems without heist
whats the weird item below the breachstone
im assuming its a new unique?
jolly radish
i just wanna target farm those new 20 alt cards
harsh bone
Does anyone wana speculate what that is? Maybe synthesis?
jolly radish
you can you just need to abuse watchstone mechanics but its aids to setup
and only early on
maiden coral
Those people that farm tower for shavs or burial for the doctor beg to differ
jolly radish
rip burial farm
sharp iron
I see an organism inside of a crystal
sharp iron
My bet is on Essence
harsh bone
Makes sense
violet nymph
those numbers are always unconfirmed really
jolly radish
560 pts to defer 4 ex if you couldnt afford it? Big stonks
harsh bone
Not really since you get a lot of tribute
violet nymph
it'll be higher
jolly radish
imagine you defer it then it doesnt show up for 20 maps and when it does your game crashes and all portals rip
harsh bone
2.8k is kinda low
I wonder how do we get the item that allow us to refund the atlas tree
native sonnet
also note that those numbers might/can change between trailer and launch
lilac saffron
I hope the div card will be common af
native sonnet
balance is still ongoing
jolly radish
interestingt you'll see 3-4 ritual areas per zone, i thought it'd be one but multiple ones is nice, i wonder if the tribute 'stacks' up per area so you can bottleneck your tribute for those items
maiden coral
Yea never saw any tease of the atlas refund
It wasnt alongside the plat/chromium stones and the Maven orb
jolly radish
i do like the "pick an item" aspect from guff's stash so this is a +1 for randomness
native sonnet
yeah, woke cadiro is great, no need to pickup coins and half a stash of selection instead of just 1
and ppl can't jack it like cadiro
jolly radish
im so excited to see how trash the low level zone items are haha
imagine doing one in coast and it sjust a bunch of ilvl 1 white items
although saying that im sure if you went mudflats and did it you might clutch a few early transmutes or alts for gems
violet nymph
imagine finding a tabula 💰
jolly radish
trying to think what act 1 zone would be the best to do it on, i'd say ledge imo
jolly radish
kind of wish you could 'save' tribute though but its good cus you dont get to abuse early zones to keep target farming a good item like exiles+tidal island style mechanics
native sonnet
saved = ppl will ask for trade = balanced around economy
so i prefer this method instead
jolly radish
ye fk trading for tribute
at least theyve confirmed to dump party play further on though
map owner only gets access and you have to 'share' it
violet nymph
this is literally just a better version of perandus league
jolly radish
luckily im solo this time around
harsh bone
So do rituals benefit from mob density in the map?
jolly radish
i wasnt watching baeclast, fell asleep to nugis angellic voice 1 hour in
woke up to tarkecat screaming and went back to sleep
legit this
kind of confusing that you do the 'mavens' challenge in every map if you want, but did they clarify whats to stop you doing a bunch of shitty non-phased easy bosses and abuse those for the challenge
i mean we gonna expect "10 GUARDIAN OF THE PHOENIX MAVEN CHALLENGE.. YOU WONT BELIEVE HOW I DID THIS" clickbaits soon?
wet plaza
10 hydras with balls
violet nymph
phrasing
native sonnet
faust, can ur ballista take on 10 bossess? 
jolly radish
tfw you didnt play harvest cus of garden and lack of import now harvest is core with pre-made gardens
harsh bone
Bex: "Atlas Passive Trees and then Ascendancy Classes."
On what's redacted
wet plaza
faust, can ur ballista take on 10 bossess? <:otterPeek:709794897804263457>
They can take on anything!
wet plaza
I might die in the process but they can
jolly radish
chris said he felt harvest target craft was op so probably lots ?
violet nymph
he also said he didn't want to nerf the crafts
i think the good ones will just be extremely rare
rather than gone
wooden cloud
I feel pretty hyped but I cannot figure out what to play
native sonnet
if only conversion trap work on unique mobs ~
wet plaza
Th bossing focus made me doubt the blink mirror arrow starter I wanted to do tho
wooden cloud
^
I was gonna do some CoC or flicker originally, but I feel like bossing would require too much investment to be smooth
Although this may be possible with tributes and harvest?
native sonnet
cyclone with vaal cyclone suck all 10 bossess on to u
maiden coral
😳
sharp iron
Just don't bring along the map boss that has "nearby allies can't be killed"
wooden cloud
Really curious about the new inquisitor ascendancy that encourages attribute stacking
violet nymph
or that one racecourse boss with the reflect shit lol
wooden cloud
Feels like it's a lot of free crit
wooden cloud
I think you can probably aim for what like 400-600 attributes pretty flexibly?
violet nymph
soooo 600% inc crit chance
that's pretty big
battlemage is extremely interesting to me
replica kongor's undying rage inquisitor CI build 🤔
sharp iron
Actually, Amulets with +% to attributes ars better for stacking large amounts of attributes then Astremeties is.
Astrmeties is perfect for meeting attribute requirements. But when you're trying to stack things up to very large numbers (like 800+) then multipliers beat out flat bonuses for attributes
maiden coral
astramentis till we can afford a % amulet it is then
violet nymph
i use astramentis forever cause it's convenient
and i'm too lazy to think about % attribute mods
sharp iron
Indeed, lol
violet nymph
i would highly recommend looking at various 2H unique weapons to see what kind of nutty shit you might be able to do with battlemage
for instance, there's this staff called The Stormwall...
sharp iron
I believe Shaper % attribute mods go to 15%.
So it you already have at least 670 or more in flat attributes, then +15% beats +100 flat.
However, a rare amulet can roll a flat bonus in addition to that, as well as other useful stats like resistance. You can also have it be a dual attribute base instead of the triple attribute base that astremeties is. So more reason to go for it.
But if your Templar also has some green gems that he needs dexterity to use, then Astremeties might be better after all since it also allows you to meet those requirements.
After doing the math, it would seem that Astremeties is actually the way to go after all. And those % attribute amulets should probably be reserved for those pushing insane numbers, going past 1000
wooden cloud
How would templar abuse both strength and int stacking wrt to item choices?
sharp iron
I admittedly don't know. I'm not sure what all scales off of attributes
You could get the Divinity body armor (I think it's called something like "Cloak of the Ephereal") that has insanely high Strength and Intel requirements.
maiden coral
does battlemage benefit from added elemental damage on the weapon
violet nymph
yes, if it's a local mod on the weapon
i'm guessing it works the same as spellslinger
maiden coral
ah neato
slender temple
to the people from 2 screens above. chris said no duplicate map bosses for now
native sonnet
Not sure if this was answered somewhere, if i defer an item and then use the refresh feature
Does the defer still work, if so does it defer to the next area or right into the refreshed selections in that area
old carbon
guys is the ritual league going to be in the echoes of the atlas league or sperate ?
wet plaza
echoes is the expansion everyone gets, ritual league is optional like heist was
old carbon
OH thats big help, thank you friend !
Im still new to the game 🙂
So it you just going to have to kill enemies around the altar ? or will it be like a tower defense thing ? Im asking because am thinking about a build. Totem builds could be quite useful here maybe 😄
native sonnet
Just kill
edgy stag
ritual league will be in the echoes one ?
wet plaza
echoes is what everyone gets = expansion, ritual is the temp league like heist
edgy stag
ok thanks
high scaffold
i think people will try lure the whole map mobs into ritual then complain its too tedious to get reward for ritual mechanics
anyone think so?
languid path
anything that does not originally spawned within the vicinity of the ritual does not count
unless you meant people do it not knowing it doesnt work then complain anyway then yeah
that's reddit
high scaffold
anything that does not originally spawned within the vicinity of the ritual does...
sounds neat...was that confirmed?
languid path
yes, on the stream q&a session
tender geyser
Man slayer looks juicy
Do you think its gonna still be worse than champion if you go for impale?
Considering how boss heavy the expansion seems to be
golden arch
can't wait for the "only 2000 more ritual encounters before i pay off my HH" complaings on reddit woooweee
wet plaza
free loan no bitching
exotic forum
unless you meant people do it not knowing it doesnt work then complain anyway th...
first midleague patch will probably introduce a visual effect for Ritual mobs if there isn't already one.
barren crescent
don't forget on death effects reduced in dmg
golden arch
oops
hollow osprey
I love how this League is even more simple than Metamorph or Legion
This is just "approach an arena and kill all and get some coins in order to buy stuffs you like"
Honestly I'm fine with it, I'm down for killing more mobs
eager charm
Perandus but good
rigid stream
Eh perandus does have quite a lot of loot as well, If you meet it every area that is
tender tusk
hollow osprey
I absolutely have no hope to see any exalts though
high scaffold
can't wait for the "only 2000 more ritual encounters before i pay off my HH" com...
cant wait for "i forgot to defer my HH for the 25th times fucccckkkkk" 
i can see myself just mapping and completely forgot to defer important items 
maiden coral
You speed run your sirus rotations by leaving once the conqueror shows up
Then cry cause you didnt defer the HH
dusky kernel
the whole ritual urn thing where you fill it with kills and can trade it later thats ritual right
not part of simping for the lady
dusky kernel
right which is all part of the watchstones
crafting them to affect the boss orgies
did they say how many items you can defer in ritual?
i know it was multiple
native sonnet
multiple items per ritual , didnt mention limit
indefinitely on the same item (across multiple instances) till u can afford it
dusky kernel
Mmm
slender temple
what if we miss a payment
raven hawk
Hillock comes to your hideout to rough you up until you pay
swift pagoda
probably poofs if you do a ritual and dont defer it
slender temple
ill test it in first area 😄
native sonnet
inb4 deferring hh for 10 maps and the 11th map crashed before u could defer it
raven hawk
but yea I think my understanding from video was that you'd lose it if you didn't keep deferring
native sonnet
aye
slender temple
but you can skip rituals if you want right? or do non comlpeted rituals couunt as missing a payment
raven hawk
yea that's a great question - hopefully only if you actually open the store after?
so you don't have to 100% maps to find it haha
devout osprey
99.9% u can skip rituals
dusky kernel
the wording is what made me skeptical on it
it said defer to next area
not next completed ritual
I hope crashing mid ritual doesnt cause you to lose deferred items haha
slender temple
i hope juicing maps makes you get more tribute
liek t19 100% delirius ez buy evrything
native sonnet
aye, there's no reason to defer it to the next "ritual" since u get multiple rituals in an area which share the same inventory
dapper moon
Was there a showcase of the Deadeye rework and when are nerfs/buffs etc. Revealed?
hasty perch
Some map ascendancies thing look very nice
All magic mobs incursion is probably extremely good xp
dusty umbra
So what are our thoughts on currently seen ascendancy changes? Elem/Deadeye/Inqui?
Can't wait to see what they did to scion too
violet nymph
"actually deadeye is shit and worse than she was before" - quite a few people in this discord
lol
sharp iron
I don't like the change to Rupture, but I really like the defensive changes
For my high evasion, high dodge, build, this essentially gives me 30% less damage taken from hits in most situations, except the ones where there a very high amount of attacks coming at me.
No wait, it's damage taken in general, not just damage taken from hits. So this also saves me from damage over time.
So I'd say it's a nerf to the Deadeye's offense, but a big buff to their defense
violet nymph
deadeye will actually be fucking meta for lab farming now lol
literally never die to traps
kintsugi + wind dancer + wind ward
= never die
replace kintsugi with qotf if you want 2304982394 movement speed i guess
velvet palm
lab farming 
wooden cloud
have any of the elevated mods been released?
violet nymph
nope
besides the %int/+1 int gems one
from that you can assume there will be ones for dex/str too of the same quality
ocean narwhal
Does ritual loot use that weird "roll an item multiple times and pick the best outcome" system?
velvet palm
and the life flask one @violet nymph
violet nymph
oh right
violet nymph
Does ritual loot use that weird "roll an item multiple times and pick the best o...
we don't know
velvet palm
actually being excited for poe
I did not think it could happen again after shite league
violet nymph
if you think a little about it both the expansion and league mechanic are pretty small
expansion is literally just new watchstone stuff + boss rush + tree passives
and ritual is ritual
thin vine
that means there's not much room for bugs, right? ...right?
silver kettle
the secret tech of maximum impact for minimum effort
violet nymph
please do it more often lol
violet nymph
honestly i prefer the ritual choose-your-award mechanic over what we've been getting recently
violet nymph
i don't like it when the economy is overinflated with shit
velvet palm
100% it's gonna be buggy
zealous monolith
I wonder if the new deadeye ricochet thing works with frost wall. Or is it only natural walls?
fair prairie
lol that didn't take long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lha5B4PPJ4
thin vine
I wonder if the new deadeye ricochet thing works with frost wall. Or is it only ...
frost wall hasn't interacted with player projectiles in ages
zealous monolith
The reworked "Ricochet" node has an interaction with terrain in general. I'm going to try it once the patch hits.
clear gust
Ok guys, big question, which spell will benefit from added phys damage and high crit chance? Going for battlemage. With 2h weapon
sharp iron
Have they rewarded new hideouts for challenges before?
silver kettle
nope
violet nymph
lol that didn't take long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lha5B4PPJ4
this dude seems to think that the narrower scope didn't actually happen lol
sharp iron
That's really cool that this is a reward now
The hideout looks pretty nice as well. I'd like to build that in Minecraft and have it be a base in that.
lilac saffron
Will altars be in every map?
lilac saffron
Cute
wet plaza
man i love yojis actual trailers
violet nymph
didnt chris say that the league would be narrow in scope not that the expansion would
jebaited
wet plaza
We have defined a very specific scope for December's 3.13 expansion. It contains everything that a large Path of Exile expansion needs, but no more.
violet nymph
they're both pretty small
the expansion is just a boss rush, a boss fight, and the atlas passive tree/craftable watchstones
it's not a whole lot
violet nymph
the base changes of the expansions are those things
the content looks bigger than it is lol
that being said i'm fucking excited
silver kettle
it really is maximum impact for minimum effort as well
wet plaza
yeah i also enjoy the underpromise overdeliver approach this time
silver kettle
changes carefully selected to make players the happiest relative to the amount of work required
new content much the same
devout osprey
viper since you are here, what are those sticks ive seen in ritual pics?
silver kettle
I either don't know or can't answer 🙂
devout osprey
for those who dont know what im talking about
violet nymph
those look like shards of things we've seen but i'm not sure
native sonnet
viper, what happens if i defer an item and refresh the favor?
- deferred item is in new selection and deferred
- deferred item is in new selection but no longer deferred
- deferred item does not show up till next instance
- toucan
silver kettle
I don't know but it'll be in the faq
I really don't know anything more about ritual than you, I haven't worked on it or playtested it at all personally
wet plaza
you probably buffed ballista tho 
devout osprey
SoS buff
native sonnet
ah, just knowing it'll be in faq is enough for me 
round meteor
can you get offered an item that you cant even afford to defer ?
velvet palm
I'm guessing yes
round meteor
that would be tragic
velvet palm
can't wait to be offered ONLY things that you can't even deffer
fair prairie
Don't get me wrong when I say this i'm totally hyped for the new league and stuff, but what peeked my interest the most was when the video said poe 2 may be sooner then we think.
round meteor
imagine getting hh or a mirror in a t1 map but you cant even defer it
velvet palm
@fair prairie that's a bad thing
the more they rush it the more of a shitshow it will be
round meteor
i feel like im the only one that doesnt really care that much about poe2
fair prairie
it's been worked on for awhile now, i wouldn't consider it a rush job
round meteor
like this expansion and league is hype AF
velvet palm
considering they had only done two acts in over a year?
if the rest are done quickly that means they're rushed
round meteor
poe2 looks slow
fair prairie
I just want the 6 linked everything already... and new campaign. Not gonna lie i'm bored as hell with the current one
round meteor
after you do the poe2 campaign once you will go back to the old campaign
velvet palm
poe2 expert ^
fair prairie
i'll likely find a way to rotate them so i'll be less bored on restarts
round meteor
act 1 boss with phases
round meteor
i guess we didnt watch the same gameplay
fair prairie
not gonna lie that worm terrified me, but it was also made to be more difficult for exilecon. Our version will be easier
round meteor
if you think the new act1 is as fast as the current act1 i cant argue with you
fair prairie
they intentionally made the demo more difficult you need to factor that in.
violet nymph
they said they want to make sure new acts and current acts take about the same time to beat
fair prairie
won't matter much. you will always league start the campaign that has the ascendancy you like
campaign 2 could be trash but have the meta ascendancy so it would be the most played campaign
round meteor
you can choose any ascendancy you want after you play the new campaign once
fair prairie
is that tied to the account or league though
slender temple
Can we play older witch in poe1 campaign ?
round meteor
i think its account but im not 100% sure
fair prairie
unless they say account i think its safer to assume it's league
round meteor
i think they said acc
wet plaza
imagine being forced to play both campaigns every league to choose all classes
round meteor
yeah that sounds bs af
fair prairie
doesn't sound much different from now. your still forced to play the campaign to level a new character
round meteor
we will find out in 2050
fair prairie
lol
round meteor
for now lets enjoy the BIG juice
fair prairie
i got a feeling i'll dig this ritual thing... except for the mario part i don't like mario
round meteor
if there is no limit to how many mobs you can get in the jar it will be insane
fair prairie
I literally said last week i'd cry if they made Path of Exile: Mario and what did they do
they add the spinny wheel of death
round meteor
mario ?
fair prairie
yeah mario Where you have to avoid getting hit by the spinny fire arm in koopas castle
ritual has that same thing
round meteor
pfff just face tank it
since when dodging is part of poe ?
you just build more defence and more damage
fair prairie
maybe
but i get the feeling their gonna make spinny lazer hurt
I'm thinking legion chargers level of tears happening
fair prairie
just a date when they will reveal the map ascendancy nodes associated with it that i'm aware of
round meteor
wait a sec the vessel shows how many mobs there are
so you can just search for insanely stacked vessels
slender temple
It could be like Scion just unlock and then you can choose which char your want from poe1 or poe2 at creation time and it's account unlocked
round meteor
you can juice the shit out of maps to make stacked vessels for sale
slender temple
@wooden cloud 10% base rate as usual I bet
fair prairie
vessels to me seem sort of like Ambush, but you get to choose your loot with a shop attached
cinder star
not sure if this is the proper channel but did they mention the resonance cap for trinity support
wooden cloud
sad
round meteor
from what i understand the mobs you kill in the circle of the first ritual get revived on the other rituals too
so if you juice it with scarabs and sextants those also get revived
and by the time you reach the 4th ritual it will be stacked
fair prairie
sounds like something cyclone would be good at
round meteor
now imagine buying 4 of those stacked vessels and putting it in your map
fair prairie
or ED, Cont
round meteor
the map will crash
its the selfcurse dream
just imagine how many rares will be there
fair prairie
is this gonna be another vaal nova league
round meteor
sadly revived mobs cant spawn beyond portals so you cant have infinite beyonds
round meteor
if they somehow gut aurastackers this will be a selfcurse league
tawny plover
sadly revived mobs cant spawn beyond portals so you cant have infinite beyonds
What if you Vaal breach in the ritual?
you kill them, and then they revive
tender geyser
There's no vaal breaches anymore?
round meteor
What if you Vaal breach in the ritual?
dude that sounds like an early league bug
tawny plover
if there's breach in map device you can vaal breach
tawny plover
you can get it from the div card that gives a corrupted gem too
gemcutter promise
anyway, it was just a thought
I didn't see the challenges yet
dusty umbra
pretty eez access to explode for elementalists now with inpulsa and guaranteed shock on any dmg
dusty umbra
yeah that's my plan pre explode chest if it's not going to be too expensive
violet nymph
inpulsa is always expensive
round meteor
with harvest back getting explody should be pretty easy
dusty umbra
im going fire 5 * 50% (2.5% x all more/inc fire)
kek depends on how rare harvest and those crafts are
violet nymph
too bad elementalist doesn't have anything for freeze
round meteor
why ?
dusty umbra
@violet nymph im prolly going fire bv again albeit with elem this time
15% more (shock min)
30% more (the reworked pendulum)
25% (exposure)
1x golems node
round meteor
out of the reworked ascendancy it looks the best
dusty umbra
yeah i know it says you
and i already used woc on brand
in my last bv builds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j1jZIHS8hc&t=8s (during harvest) so obviously with pretty good gear
tawny plover
fire bv doesnt need explody, the herald of ash does enough damage to chain
but nice QoL tho, more reliable chains
i'm not sure about melee range in ritual league tho
10 bosses, probably bufffed
with melee range?
dusty umbra
4x Vasts and 6 pcharges will get BV to 30ish radius np
tawny plover
i'm prob going golemns tbh
dusty umbra
also i can always switch shock node for chill node (for surviv)
floral wagon
when will the new league start?
tawny plover
floral wagon
might as well get all the fucking autohotkey shit and the loot filters ready
tawny plover
loot filter jan 12th
floral wagon
oh yea