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i have a selection of the same change a div card craft with a different level and juice cost, is there a reason to use a higher lvl one?
no
yea that’s how it works
though because I'm a brainlet, I don't have enough storage tanks to fill that out completely
just craft more when you dont need to spam out reforges or whatnot
I don't usually craft
most of my equipment is stuff I picked up 10-15 levels ago
so it can't even roll anything good
My problem this league is being given lots of options each time I harvest, but I don't want to use them on garbage to waste them, so I just don't craft and just get some more infrastructure
How high item level wise can you go above a seeds level? I know my level 70 seed worked on a 75 ilvl armour
+10
how do i get the "Remove a random Lightning modifier from an item"? it seems like on Primal Dustspitter Seed but i have harvested a couple of fields of those and didn't get that mod
What ilvl
what's the seed ilvl?
i dont think that's matter, i dont get that crafting option at all
It matters
Because the seed lvl dictates the weighting of the mods
On lower lvls the good crafts are more Common than on high lvls
They did recently change the weighting. I’m not sure if that will still be accurate.
It is accurate
What happened before was, certain Things couldnt Spawn before lvl 80 and certain crafts were too Common above 80
Mmm ok so what's that mean for me? is that mod on lower or higher seeds?
It is on all seeds
But, its more common the lower the lvl is
So for example you should never use a Ilvl 84 seed on a. Ilvl 70 item thats a waste and you wont get Shit
You can use lower lvl seeds for that
what? im not talking about the crafted item
im talking about that crafting option
Remove a random Lightning modifier from an item
How Common that is depends on seed lvl
And seed lvls have a Limit how far they can below an itemlvl
Or you cant use them at all
Yea then you only need to understand that high lvl seeds have worse chances at getting better crafts than Low lvl seeds
the amulet is lvl 81
broooooooo
You dont use lvl 83 seeds
that's not the problem
It is
why not thoug?
Because thats how they work
so i need to farm low lvl seeds?
bro im using seeds lvl 70-80
@frigid iris I’d do it this way instead.
You can connect the inn/out pylons to any of them. Doesn’t have to be the ones I left them on. This way you can expand to more rows of storage easier by continuing the pattern.
Is boss fight root wall mechanic still bugged? I'm stuck outside the root wall on my first time with the boss, and I don't know what to do
@charred basin I found the system shown on reddit more elegant
0 votes and 0 comments so far on Reddit
@winged dove don't spam your post in multiple channels.
So you want easy Access to T4 seeds, which yield incredibly broken crafts, got it
T3 seeds are easy to come by btw, a full field of T2 seeds gives 4-7 T3 seeds, average
full as in 19 or 24?
when you chose "auto plan seeds" it only plants level 1 seeds right ? Also is there a way to prevent it to plant from the seed stash but only whats in the inventory ?
Anyone selling a Horticrafting station with 'replace a non speed mod with a speed mod'
the setup for that is scuffed tho
Its not
where do you even place harvester
How do I De-activate a Disperser so I can move it? I've turned off Auto-Disperse, but when i CTRL+Click the Disperser, it says "You cannot pick up objects that are activated"
Its a 5x5 grid with the harvester in the middle
and the dispenser need to be placed outside
Yes
@frank veldt did you run a harvest at all in that instance
what are some good items to chance this league
hh
I have seeds planted but i havent done a Harvest
hm thats weird, can you disconnect it then remove it in the next instance
Ill try that
Any ideas why my seeds are not growing here? It says I need 20 more units of Vivid, and I have a Disperser set up, but it doesnt seem to be feeding the plants even though "Auto" is turned on https://gyazo.com/0432690083bb44c825afca343f3060e4
is there a point in chancing conqueror influenced items
like idk a conqueror shavs
is there anything other than a HH to chance this league
i have the seed that gives me 10 chances
Ignore the Red blinking, its doing that because it autodisperses simultaniously on Growth tick
And Not before
Why are only some of the seeds blinking red then? and not all of them?
As far as i can tell, I've set up Corner 1 and Corner 2 the exact same way. But for some reason, the Tier 2 Seed in Corner 2 is blinking Red https://gyazo.com/be61efef53128e486cc42d097832af2a
Did you press the Button on the left? Is it the right type of juice
are seed types random?
Yes
@rigid stream damn, you sure? Because if its true I actually wasted like 2 hours to try and find why its not auto dispersing lmao
Yes it Just Works. I have grown Like a hundred of blinking seeds
That is, If it has the right Juice and autodisperse is on
wtf thats so stupid, I thought about everything but that one small thing
but didnt about that one small thing *
I mean, thats what i would expect on auto^^ it Just works
how am i supposed to use the horticraft station ?
you connect it with the station you're crafting at
You get a new Button once you connected it
Doesnt have to be connected directly, it can be somewhere on the Same Powerline
that's what i've heard anyway, i haven't made one yet 
that is connected directly according to how pylons work lol
Well, it doesnt have to be Close to it, to be more precise
how many crafts can you store in one
3
You can make Infinite of them
So storing crafts isnt an issue once you have Made a handfull
yeah
It uses lifeforce when you Put it into the horticraft, so you dont need Stored lifeforce or anything
the system i'm using calls for 9 horticraft stations
You want as many as you can get
It gives you a larger leeway^^
And you can Store more 5L crafts that way
for leveling i guess
you really don't need more than three horticrafting stations
you can remove them from the layout and stash them once they're full
Mass producing horticrafting stations xD
too bad you can't sell the parts at all
The crafts sell pretty well so its fine
the Ring and Amulet craft have swapped descriptions
how many t3 seeds do i need to harvest to get a t4 seed drop or can they drop of just one t3 harvest?
It's random, AFAIK
@next epoch ok
do you guys think that augment crafts will be the next master spawns boogaloo
i mean
it's literally targeted exalts
obviously they're supposed to be hugely fucking rare
Its very likely the next hurr my masters arent spawning
when in reality its a bunch of ... very nice and good... people, that run 2 maps and havest 5 crops and dont get an exalt and then say they ran 200 maps and harvested 5000 crops
and a lot of people don't realize that with bench craft you can make nearly as good stuff
like bench craft highest res and use T2 seed that gives "swap a resists element"
boom exalted resist for free
But, thats only for the top 0.1%, how should someone with 15 kids and 7 wives get that
by buying specific rings in trade for like 5 to 15 c right now
you can easily resell them 2+ex
with just T2 seed crafts and bench abuse
did just that yesterday bought 15c a life/WeD/ 16% all res mod ring
bench craft swapped fire and lightning res on top
and then you have an uncrafted life/WeD / all res / double highish res ring
with 1 prefix open to master craft
sold one 3 ex yesterday on a ruby ring
imagine buying stuff this league when you can make gg shit yourself, ppl must be stupid
horticrafting makes those things even easier
not going to complain :^)
and then they'll whine on reddit "league gives nothing gnn"
because unlike delirium you have to think a bit about what you're doing to make the bank
dae bad league cant right click receive money
really feels less RNG too , you can just print exalts with the right seeds and clever trading and upgrading
can I get Attack speed, Bow attacks fire an additional arrow, dot multi if I slam "attack" modifier to my bow?
Hey all, is there a way to harvest craft remove "mana gained on hit?"
no
ok thanks
hey guys, if say for example i have a melee attack linked to a melee support then linked to a range attack, even the melee support wont affect my range attack, i can still use my range attack right?
idk if it's a bug or not, but my friend is using ngamahu's flame axe, however when he linked his main melee with this, he cant use his main attack anymore
i understand if shockwave wont support the axe's trigger skill, but should it affect the main melee skill as well?
yeah probably dump low level seeds for new character
and the top right can just harvest anything from t2 to t4 right?
so much storage 
12k juice storage, seems about right if you'd plan on buying t3/4 seeds
Is there a video that explains the garden and how to set it up easily? Just looking at that shit gives me a headache
Do you loose your current harvest crafting options if you just leave it there and do another map?
if you enter into a new garden instance you basically lose everything you didnt store/use. by closing the map you entered the garden in, youre basically also closing your way of getting back into that instance
or more succint: i think yes you would lose them (this is where the horti-whatever-station comes in to play of course)
k, ty
where do people sell harvest crafts?
guys, changing lightning res to cold res is not working atm
ive tried with several people
why does everyone use stacked storage rather than distributed sotrage
its easier to see what you have if its all in the same space/on the same screen? not to mention it turns it into "link stuff to this 1 thing" rather than " make sure all these separate things are connected"
Why does my auto plant not plant my T1 seeds even though I have like 50 of them?
probably too low level
you can manually plant em i you still want to use them
id use them just for life force mainly
If you use the T4 wild seed to fracture a mod on an item, can you later use an influence orb on the item?
I know that the T4 wild cannot be used on an influenced item. But i'm wondering if you can use the T4 wild, and then turn the item into an influenced item
is there a way to search for a seed tier?
since harvest start, I've been having primal overload and constant shortage of wild seeds
is that universal, or are seed drops completely random and you have different experiences?
been back and forth. felt overwhelmed with wild and primal. suddenly ran dry on vivid energy ._. idk ... rng or who knows
I actually went and tested this on the internal servers the other day, because I had a long term overload of wild and shortage of vivid on live and wanted to make sure it was just RNG
Conclusion after "running" 200 maps — yep it's just RNG
so, same as "broken" metamorph organ RNG then? 🙂
had like ~9 full storage tanks of each before i went for horticrafting stations. was feeling good. then i look one time and all my vivid tanks are empty ._. "we gonna need more storage maybe"
how do I pick up my T1 farms? its saying "you cannot pickup objects that have been activated"
theres nothing planted, dont get why I cant just pick it up
Refresh instance
isnt that an uber elder frag
yeah, shaper fragments are the square ones you get from shaper guardians
What's an easy but rewarding garden set up for early mapping?
Slap a bunch of collectors down, plant T1 seeds, do them untill you have 24 of one Kind of T2 seeds, slap a collector down, slap dispensers near it so the requirement is fullfilled, plant 24 T2 seeds, kill them. Repeat Till you have 24 T3 seeds of one Kind, then slap collector for T3 seeds...
You dont need a super space efficient Garden, the only Thing you need to remember is, never harvest a field that doesnt have 24 seeds
And try to get 18-30 condensers per type
whats a good gem to corrupt in 2x corrupt room in temple? in this league?
how many tier 3 seeds do i need to harvest to get a t4 drop?
is it easy to remove lightning damage with harvest crafting to roll it later for physical damage? Because I see a nice axe for 3ex, but wondering if that is possible to do it without breaking anything else.
think ppl underestimate what easy is in this game, easy is still more often then not a really long grind
primal dustspitter seeds can produce that craft
"Remove a random Lightning modifier from an item"
@eager terrace thanks
I'm sure you'll need to churn a hell of a lot of them to find it
it's only a T1 seed so the weight is probably really low
Yeah, but not problem, as long its possible I have time
Is 24 containers per type enough?
for the time beeng, probably
thats 7200 energy, a T4 seed needs like 2500, a T3 seed...500+
so if you have a lot of T3 seeds, you might want some more
what ilvl does the map need to be for seeds to grow? i mean how close do the lvls need to be?
im running a lvl35 map and my 40 seeds arent growing, and i dont see why
i mean, does it have something to do with my character level?
there is no lvl 40 maps
have they fixed the harvest boss glitches yet?
next week
great. not like there was some event that entered you in a pull for some prices gated beihnd it
How to make people not interact with game mechanics 101
4 days of playing to get to a boss fight that bugs out on you
the odds of getting the rare crafts are currently bugged and they will look into it next week meaning its useless to do anything other the hoarding seeds atm
so you can't do boss and you can't do regular seeds. What league is it actually right now?
back to
maps
You can be relatively certain than 11/10 Posts on Reddit are a bunch of whiners that Ran 5 Maps and expected free targeted exalts. When in reality it will and should need Quite a bunch of seeds, especially since you can Just save and sell them
Could probably use a Bit more storage, but in General, yes. You dont need the full T4 fields though, because i dont know If you can reliably fill that without buying seeds
But it has enough T1 fields and the fields are 24 seeds each, thats important and should Work for Most applications
Im hoping the update that will "give more seeds" will help sustain
Ahh didnt notice but thanks for input
The Update will give uhh buff thingies
That improve yield and lifeforce and some Other stuff
@gloomy cedar I think the element swapping mod is bugged. I also cannot use mine
I have used one of the elemental swap mods before though, maybe it is related to horticuture bench?
Is that a normal cold mod?
yes, "of the ice", t2
the suffixes are full. maybe it's coded in such a way that it adds new mod, then removes last, and it can't do it with 3 suffixes already?
the one I successfully did previously on gloves only had 2 suffixes at the time
so trying to work out how this is different
Thats possible
anybody knows how "augment an item with a new influence modifier" works?
I have "remove a random influence modifier from an item"
I have a helmet which is redeemer and I dont like the affix it got
I would like to reroll it into a redeemer affix
will add and then remove work ?
I want to change regen mana into -9% cold res
can you craft ilvl 100 item with seed craft ? if yes what minimum seed ilvl ?
Is there a comprehensive list what mods count as physical/caster/attack/cold/etc?
poedb’s mod section and craftofexile both show tags on the various affixes
Did anyone use the Sacrifice a Map to create random Map currency based on its tier craft? What's the best map to sacrifie? does it matter if it's just a t16 or an influenced map?
is the horti station limited to 1 type of seed ?
yes
Does auto disperse actually work or not? I can't actually tell
it does
if you have the LF, it does
It doesn't LOOK like it works
It works
So the part where the seed still flashes red and I have the option to manually disperse lifeforce is a bug?
No
It Disperses on growtick simultaniously
Meaning, while it doesnt Tick, its Not dispersed
Thats done because this way you dont lose an extra Turn of lifeforce If you rearange your seeds
I wonder what was the reasoning for not letting us interact with mana at all
hey all, i'm trying to use the pinned layout, and i'm having an issue. The first pylon in the storage areas has 5 connected. is there something i'm missing?
@charred basin
@copper kernel https://iw.gy/rnbdEq is an improvement over the linked one in the pin to fix the 5 pylon links. Posted by the same guy.
How does ilvl of seeds works with items?
Like can i use an ilvl 72 with a base 86?
i died once to the harvest boss fight because it is a lag fest and now the boss is bugged. 100 red maps down the drain.
Max ilvl difference on seeds vs items is 10. If im not wrong once you get to ilvl86 it stops mattering, example: ilvl 86 seed can effect a ilvl 100 item
Hopefully someone can correct me if im wrong
so now that harvest lady ran away with my boss encounter
Should I even do my other t4 seeds since she not gonna show up and plant the thingie
they really fucked up with the bossfight. it wouldnt hurt half as much if it wasnt bound to the mtx event.
This is super anectodal but, did anyone else feel like having active delirium reduces the chance of higher Tier seed drops?
also, this still exists
Does anyone know if the "reroll numeric value of X modifier..." can change the tier of the affix at all? If it can't, why does this exist? Seems very useless to me.
is there no option to reroll the tier?
no
lol then this harvest crafting sucks
I legit dont understand how to make any good items with this
guess have to spam the "replace" thing?
uh you chaos roll with it untill you get a nice combination of T1 mods, or have an item with nice mods, and then you remove and augment the mod types you want untill the item is perfect
thats for the standard crafting types
but what if I have like "x% reduced attribute requirements", I havent seen a crafting option that removes this. Does it exist?
nope, that doesnt have a tag
rip
you have to use a normal anull for that
is there a way to split stacks when accessing stash through collector?
guys what od you have to do after you kill the harvest boss ??? for the lottery
is the auto dispenser still bug?
how do i fix my grove so it shows icons
ctrl click for new instance
ctrl click the icon you see at the map when interacting with a way point
and auto dispenser is not bugged, it shows the icon to irrigate manually when u visit the crop but they are working normally, at least for me
I just never manually press and it works
no like all my crops dont have the icons over it either
they usually disappear when you're fighting mobs, so check surroundings to see if none escaped (some mobs go away to kite for some reason), if you don't find any just ctrl click the Grove icon and it will forcibly create a new instance
ctrl clicking fixxed
for some reason i cant print screen and paste pictures here
is there a way i can reroll some mods on a pair of gloves to keep the ES rolls but add life
trying to reroll a mana mod to life is that possivle
will lvl75 seed work for ilvl85?
thx
So there's no portal back to the conqueror from the grove, opened one to get back to my hideout and now cant get back to the map, what do?
dont want to lose my conqueror spawn
Hi all. Busy fight the Heart of the grove and the boss bugged out. She is frozen in place with no health bar. Is there a way to work around this or is the fight lost. Any help will be appreciated.[img]https://i.imgur.com/UpWlMUP.jpg[/img]
Anyone gotten a 'create 6 link' craft out of the garden?
Is there a way to un-brick the fight?
I only got around that bug since I was playing totems
haven't heard any solutions that work universally so far
you can try to target very specifically so that your spikes go through
went all the way to act 1 to buy a bow and blink arrow in it, but no dice
I guess that is what I deserve for not waiting for a patch
I think more t1 seeds should drop in the game. Like 1.5x or 2x more.
Well, I should say more t1 seeds before yellow/orange and red tier maps. It just seems like a big mechanic to ignore until you get 30+ t1 seeds at a time
eh you do get quite a few
and if you feel like you dont get enough, you can spam some low tier maps fast and get the caches
Also, is there any information on storage containers needing to be within a certain range of the collectors+dispensers? I had this huge network and none of the dispensers, although connected, were sending lifeforce down the line
there is no distance restriction
When a seed says 'adjacent' do diaginals count?
yes
yeah there are no range limitations
probably just need to check the connections
if the dispenser isn't lit up a certain color it isn't connected to a life force source
https://harvest.iw.gy/# is a good planning tool for the garden
is augment/remove/remove+ super bugged or super nerfed? didn't they say they were going to buff this? (sorry if it's been asked before)
@eager terrace Yeah, I make sure they are all lit up. I am wondering if they all have to be under a pylon area of effect to be connected for transfer
Well, technically they all are
it may be that there is a break in the chain somewhere
Yeah I will triple check
like the color storage they are connected to is empty
but the fuller ones behind it aren't a full chain
they are all lit and connected. I will check next time I go to add to the banks to see if it says any lifeforce would be wasted (I have 15 or 20 of each color all empty, so plenty of room)
Anyone got a video on how to link this monster? https://i.redd.it/njxdy8nhib651.png
I need to see it being done I can't figure this crap out
dont do that
thats a very... special... layout
you spend more time building it than you will play this league
take a normal layout
Where can I price seeds?
does the white socket seed craft require the item to have no white sockets?
no
This is the layout i want to use i just don't know how to connect everything so it all works
I was hoping there was a video with a connecting it guide
does anyone know what removes "+1 to socketed gems" from 2h weapons? harvest wise
@frosty sequoia i think there is no. the tag for it on poedb is "gem_level" so yeah.. guess u cant remove it using harvest
okay, I was watching a streamer say he did it accidently
but i think you are right
Is there any reason NOT to want dispenser set to automatic?
Hi does anyone know how you get the "Crafting stations" where you can save crafts?
harvest many t2 seeds at once and you can buy it for 1800 lifeforce
cant be bought from stored lifeforce
higher item level seed = more lifeforce
Oh so I just have to continue the harvest quest?
I remember I couldn't buy dispensers at the start too... makes sense 👍
Whats the item level of the ring? Guessing thats why
Yep
but the sacrifice must be a bug right? isn't that just for fragments?
Reroll the Suffixes on a Rare item, with Lucky modifier values
Can a t1 mod go down tiers with this craft?
someone posted a basic Harvest garden guideline, I suck and lost the link -- Anybody have a basic one you could show me? I'm super late to the 'get a garden started' party
If you mean layout, check pins
how do we sell seeds? how to check prices on craft?
how does one go about crafting 3 res, ms, life boots with harvest crafting optimally?
if you dont get res just craft remove cold mod, add another cold mod
for example
until u get the res
do i alt spam to get certain mods to start with, or just harvest craft chaos spam until i get a few res with ms?
Id Say Harvets craft till you got at least some of the mods/most
then use Remove + Add to improve tiers of rolls/augments to add missing ones etc
and make sure any unwanted mods are ones that can be target removed with harvest too
@earnest token -- hey brand new to discord really... where are the pins? thank you!!
@fierce prairie
oh. derp, thank you much buddy!
No worries
should i buy seeds or just run maps for them if trying to craft for profit?
what if you dont want to craft and just want to sell the craft for other people to use
u can't do it besides trade chat, can't search for tier 3/4 seed specifically
on trade site
Theres a PoE Trade Services discord thats got a chat specifically for craft sales
@earnest token do u have a link, i never joined the poe trade services discord
ty @earnest token
Np
yo can i get that link too
Is there ever a reason to turn off auto disperse? I just put together the pinned setup. As far as I can tell I can just leave it on, and not plant any seeds until I'm ready, so leaving auto disperse on won't do anything until I put the seeds in that "high tier" section
Like I think you would only turn it off if you decided you wanted to use that section for lower tier seeds for a bit for some reason
does any1 have the links/connections for the 99.5% effective garden?
Took me 2 seconds to find on google 😉
took me 2 seconds to not see the links also 😉
and another 2 to scroll down , thanks dude :p
haha np
Are auto dispensers broken...?
I dont want to go to the garden every single map to click each dispenser lol
seeds that are getting auto-dispensed are visually bugged - they'll glow red and the lifeforce requirement for them to grow won't be checked. however, they will actually grow if other requirements are met, and you can observe that by watching their growth tracker fill up
Ahhhhhh thank god
does the dispensers prioritize at all? or do they disperse evenly if you have 2 collectors that require x lifeforce?
i think it only works when you can cover all
Is the "Change a modifier that grants Fire Reistance into a similar-tier modifier that grants Lightning Resistance" broken? I have a regular item with fire resistance (not crafted) and it says that the items has no modifiers of specified type.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/hdd9zs/995_space_efficient_gardening_setup_all_tiers/
also what is this? i thought T4 seeds need 4 adjacent T3 seeds?
@grizzled harbor does it have a lightning res mod already?
Is it a viable strategy to fill the rest of the t4 collector plot with t1 seeds to enable harvesting a single already-fully-grown t4?
whats the chance of a feasting horror seed giving you a 6 link craft?
No
Dont fill the T4 seed with T1 seeds
You will Not be able to use the T4 craft, it costs too much lifeforce
So.. Do mods that remove or add specific categories of things no longer exist at end game? lol
I just started POE Harvest recently. For some reason some of the seeds (T1) are not growing. Is there something that I am doing wrong?
You get them every Couple hundred of one Type
You are running zones of a too Low lvl
Seeds only grow If the area you are running is of an appropriate lvl
What is the appropriate level?
In Story mode, -2
So a 65 seeds should grow in a 63 zone
But that range gets lower the Higher you Go, where at map lvl you should Run Maps of a Higher or Equal lvl
That is done to prevent people from speedgrowing highlvl seeds in Story zones really Quickly
So if I get a level 65 seed from Act 10 area, I can still grow the level 65 seed by restarting the zone even if I'm level 80?
Your Player Level is irrelevant for growing seeds, yes
Thank you so much
is there any rule on what crafts u get from certain seeds? I planted like 40 level 83 physical rolls seed and NONE of them gave me augment physical mod.
good mods are obviously rare
the announcement page had a list
of possible mods out of a certain type
i checked it, it says its possible to get it from the ones i planted
but never got it
i guess rng and have to wait, should get it eventually ^^
40 seeds is not even close to enough
you can expect to get an aug maybe every 400-500 seeds of one type
Anyone know where to find and follow an easy and simple garden setup ? The ones pinned are a bit unclear to me
Just don't be dumb 
i will make an easier setup later, it gets kinda tiring to explain it 50 times a day so i can post that then
Actually, about the last one pinned, can t2/3/4 seeds be grown at the same place (the top right corner)
I dont know if thats clear, I'm speaking about the transition to t2/3/4
Thats the thing I'm not sure about
Because all I see in people gardens are t1 then t3 and t4, dont know where the t2 were before going for the t4
Is there any point in trying to use t1 seeds to craft mapping gear or should I just buy something high life high res for a few chaos already made
I usually just pump juice into maps but I'm gonna cap on storage soon so I have no idea what to use t1 seeds for now
You can easily make mapping Gear with T1 seeds
You can even make Endgame Gear before you start Maps
The crafting is very strong
Is there any trick to it besides keep slamming a good base with the reforge crafts until it spits out something good
No, reforge untill passable and than add/remove untill its as good as you desire
I'm still on white maps so my seed drops are still like 6-10 a map, can I even reliably farm up those add and remove crafts
I barely saw them as is a few days ago before the patch
For Starter Gear? Yes
Quarry can craft Up to lvl 75 items, mening you wont get great influence items or anything Special, but Life/resist Gear can be made with medium effort
Oh dang is it back to quarry farm. I have like over a dozen t2s and half a dozen t3 I gotta run anyway to hope for t3 and t4 drops before I start buying maps so I can farm some up anyway
You should.wait with Using your Higher Tier seeds Till after the patch
Has any one found a solid guide for how to get the horticrafting station?
Because the Higher seeds will drop buff items that so stuff
Yeah for sure I wont plant any t2s until I get like stuff I can use them with
I meant tier maps earlier tho. Like basilica t3
harvest a t3 seed @worn sedge - its just about the sheer amount of lifeforce
you need to harvest at least 1800 lifeforce in a single collector
iirc you can get to 1800 using a large amount of t2s, but just growing a t3 and then filling out the plot from there will get you enough for a horticrafting station
In a 100+% Quant map, 24 T2 seeds of lvl 67+ give you over 5400 lifeforce
Meaning, you get 3 horticrafts
lul
do harvest craft respect meta mods?
like i have a defense mod on a suffix and two defense mod on a prefix
if i craft cannot change suffixes and use remove two defense mods
cant remove the suffix one?
yes
thank you. i hope its not bugged or something
You know what sucks? Can't trade harvest stuff. Like if you made too many pylons or whatever
you can store pretty much infinite
Isn't helena crafting a lousy low tier cold res on a belt and then using "remove a random cold and add a new cold" effectively the same as "augment cold"?
yes
It's the main way of using it
wow this league's crafting is so crazy for fixing borked rares
yep
bought this glove for 5c
removed 7 life, crafted lowest possible life mod, removed life added life
open pref for whatever damage mod i can get
About people ranting against the hate toward the league earlier and everyday : 1. Most players are more casual than we are. We just need to look at the league stats to understand it. People have life and cannot always spend as much time they spend on a game to understand and be efficient on this particular game by scrolling through 17 websites. I'm not saying the game should be more accessible but that we should understand the complaints. 2. And not the least. You understand this game is an ARPG right ? You understand why people played it and loved it in the first place ?
@frosty aurora couldn't you have gotten life leech if you were unlucky?
It's not about how complex it is
its also not timeconsuming
lol
"its also not timeconsuming", - 10k hours player
The thing is, this isnt a mobile game
its not supposd to be played 20 minutes a day
Oh yeah cause I certainly spend hours on internet to understand every PC game I play
yes
No
if you want to play a complex game you do
if not, you can play easy games, like candy crush
but even that needs some level of understanding
setting your garden up takes 5 minutes, then you play
[x] doubt
Yes so is it a reason to rant against the majority of players who hate micromanagement in an ARPG ?
it's busywork i dont want in an arpg => skip for me
you could argue, planning your passive tree is micromanagement
cmon at least try
and loot
appearently not, people automate as much as possible and event want auto loot
so i dunno about that
how's that comparable to an easy but annoying to setup garden
Ok so ?
then dont
Let's say theyre lazy
the gardening feels clunky in the default cam with my char even blocking space
Then nobodys plays the game because they hate it and the devs go on ?
@frigid venture maybe but that didnt happen
yes thats how it works

precisely not. GGG update the game to please most people
No, they dont actually
if they did, we would have autoloot, everything would die in one hit and there would be 0 mtx
There is a middleground sir
no there isnt in this case
nuance is hard to get
Ok sir
some just dont
Sometimes you have to take a stand as devs
I dot not hate the league at all. I understand the complaints and I regret the hate toward it from 10k hours players. That's it
The problem is, people expect to get the same amount of rewards with playing 2 hours a week compared to the people that play 12 hours a day
thats not even what many complain about
and the game cant be balanced around the former ones, because then the rest would be done after 5 days and quit
And here again we need to find a middleground
there is right now
Not at all
if you strawman hard enough you can argue against anything
People are leaving
The main complainers on reddit arent even on red maps yet
And also they claim to have ran thousands of seeds and dont get results. And when they post their actual data, its like 200 per seed type
which is nothing for something as strong as a tagreted ex
You don't get what I said
he doesnt want to, its easier to argue against another point
Sure ok
But I need time to understand how things work. And what I want is be satisfied by killing monsters
Well that's it for me
Gonna play the game cause I love it
I have run hmm im not exactly sure how many, but a couple thousand quarry seeds, at least 600 of each non rare type. And from what i can see, the rates dont differ too far from what you get in maps
i don't get it
i'm spamming t7's, and i can't grow them because the seeds are too low of a level?
and once you reach Red maps, you get like 20-40 seeds in one map
what lvl is the seed
oh it's 83
the seed has to be lower or equal than the map lvl or it wont grow
yes
well they sure did a poor job of communicating that wtf
all leagues work like that
Stuff wont work if the zone you run is too far below what the thing you want to do is^^
cool so now i can't even fucking auto plant
I have run hmm im not exactly sure how many, but a couple thousand quarry seeds, at least 600 of each non rare type. And from what i can see, the rates dont differ too far from what you get in maps
@rigid stream
cause it takes my high level seeds
You just prove the opposite though
hm?
you can grab a thousand quarry seeds in an hour
that doesnt take that much time
it takes around.. 10-15 seconds per run
Very fun
If you need gear and arent good enough for maps yet with your build, its an option you can do
high end maps are far better, but this is somehting that someone that doesnt have a lot of time can easily do and get gear that can clear all content
Im not sure if those people would have lasted in any league
do you think someone like that would be able to handle delirum?
Steam numbers friend
Yes because it's another kind of gameplay
30% less than last league at the same time
Steam numbers dont mean that much compared to delirum cause that had the start of a pandemic
then why are you here?
xd
Why not
It's one league I dislike
Why can I not have an opinion on the league if I gave it some time and didn't enjoy it
The Problem is, negative people cause more negativity which drives regular people away. Public reception actually plays a huge role in how not invested players recieve a league
The thing is
I heard this streamer man doesnt like the league, so it must be bad
now its bad and i dont like it
Most casual player and that is most players, won't read any complaints
They'll just leave
The full truth is, non invested players dont even come here
That's just another easy way to keep others from saying their opinion
So you know it
Every league so far was way worse week 1-2 than the rest of the league
It's not reddit that made people leave xd
Not quite, you can just dislike a league, and you can be vocal about it. You can also be very vocal about it and make 500 reddit posts about it
Why did it improve? People voiced their opinion
The problem with that is, people dislike the very core idea of the reward structure
zzzz
they want instant gratification loot explosions and dont wanna bother with crafting
Another strawman how nice
not really? thats what 90% of the complaints are about
That and not having larger tanks
The busywork is what's the #1 complaint
This actgually are comlaints from non casual players xd
You can minimize that
Yeah
Crafting 1000 tanks Vs upgrading tanks won't make the league any more interesting
what busy work? If you want that super space efficent 99.5% garden sure. But you can just plop it down and it works?
Pylons are not some kind of big brain thing it's just busywork
I agree some of the garden setup could made easier going forward.
But for harvest league, setting up your garden once, its really not much effort.
sprinklers could have 1 more radius, but thats about it
It's a lot of effort for a lot of players
Garden setup is a one time thing for the entire league.
my only complaint is that I have to strain my eyes to see the squares clearly when setting up for t4 lol
people also said incursion is too much work
no?
the point is, you are more likley to not get what you want and do the full mechanic, because of the 3 in one instance. Because a room cant spawn twice a map
thats why its worse than before, even though you only need 4 instead of 11 spawns
they also diluted the chances of each room a little by introducing more room types after the league ended
For incursion its not, this looks worse, like a messy but functional garden. You actually get screwed if you dont get T3 rooms
You keep neing blind about what most people want
This is something
And that is playing the game
For what is was to them at first
The casual run into incursion, press a button and kill monsters to kill more monsters and get some reward
He likes it
And he doesnt rly care about not getting specific T3
Do he even trade
then you can just ignore all mechanics and just run more maps?
incursion rooms before T3 dont have rewards, 0, nothing
its just a bunch of monsters
Until you are bored cause there is nothing new from months before aka harvest for a lot of casuals
Can a Q20 empower receive double exp from a Facetor's Lens like it does from Tora's Workbench?
What drop rate for T2 seeds should I expect? I seem to have decent T2 -> T3 yield, but the T1 -> T2 sucks (I average maybe 1 T2 seed for each fully planed collector of T1s)?
0,8-1,2 per 24 in a 80-120% quant map
~5% droprate
thats what i just got from 4 fields of 24 each per color
so.. 96 seeds per color
So I have a level 65 staff that I want to craft, and I'm using lvl65 seeds. Can anyone tell me why it doesn't work?
sure, whats the item
Pledge of hands
what do you wanna do with it
do you have enough sockets for the links you want
you cant make a 5L with an item that only has 4 sockets
for example
You need to get the 5 socket or 6 socket yellow seed first and then use the blue 5L or 6L seed
I do have 5 sockets yeah. It says the item is too high level but... It's only 3l higher than the seeds I used
Oh shit okay how do I check that?
seeds have a range of +10 lvls
go to options, UI, turn on advanced mod descriptions, and then press alt when you look at the staff
Yeah that's why I was confused. I was like this is 3 levels why do you want to make me sad.
Thanks I'll check!
Ugh it's level 81
Unfortunatly, you cant reliably. You can use the "keep prefix but reroll Suffix" craft
And then craft the suffixes
I think its wild T2
it broke 😦
well, screenshot is a no, but a nonexistent last enemy remained
checked whole place with the help of minions, but nope
Sometimes its a burrowed enemy, or a random shaper Ball or so
do I need a separate Horticrafting Station separately attached to each pylon network?
Is there a 'Build-your-Garden' Tool or is everyone just making them with Google Docs?
please advise, do you keep on building more storage for the juice past ~9 tanks, or do you just let it go to waste?
9 tanks is barely enough for a t2 field.
Get more.
@raven hawk You can swap on the fly if you want/have only 1.
It can store crafts of different colors simultaneously.
ah nice, so it keeps the stored stuff when you disconnect it
so, looks like for the sake of the seed cache appearing, it never counts you as being higher than level 68
I'm in Blood Aqueducts (a level 61 zone) as level 72 and I'm still getting seed caches whereas previously, if I was more than 10 levels ahead of the zone, they just stopped appearing
All league mechanics Count you as 68 at most
welp, this was news for me
Its been Like this since... 5 years? Maybe more
Is it worth to wait for a full garden of T2/T3 seeds or should I fill them with lower tier seeds once I get about a handful of them?
I need to entirely replan my garden - is there a quick way to dismantle everything or do I need to go manually item by item?
need to go manually item by item?
manually crtl-clicking ever piec eof equipment to un-deploy it
Hello, this might be a dumb question but i have a Body (Dex) affix "increase stun and block recovery" i want to remove. I tried using "Remove a Defensive modifier ..." and got an error. Is it a bug or is there a specific condition i'm not aware of when dealing with this line ? I was pretty sure it's a defensive affix..
Okay i see i'm not the only one with this problem since the question got asked an hour and half ago.
TL;DR : not possible reliably with harvest craft
Stun and block Recovery has No tags
It is, If you can affors to lose the Other suffixes
There is a seed that selectivel Rerolls your suffixes
Yeah i was kind of hoping to keep the 2 t3 resist suffix :x
Depending on how good the prefixes are, you can Just add/remove the resists Back on
If its Like +1 curse explode^^
i'm only doing a low level craft to get to maps easily and found a nice chest with life t5 and double resist t3 ... bad luck on the stun & block suffix
So quite a Lot
You can Roll T2 Life on quarry seeds
Coupled with hybrid you can get Like 130 Life? + % crafted Life
what kind of item lvl/ilvl should i try to get before trying to craft that t2 life ?
i know quarry seeds are lvl 65 but i dont know if it's the item lvl or ilvl that should stay under 65
Quarry seeds can craft Up to itemlvl 75
You can craft medium Gear with it, Most good influence mods are Higher though
and doesn't go above like 70 for rares, besides atlas bases
does anyone have a good video guide on harvest superboss?
No, Not a lot of people have fought it yet, however you can watch karv or Waggle do it
Dont die and dont log out during the cage phase though
how do I know what section each stat belongs to with the modifiers in harvest? like which add/remove affects intelligence?
None, intelligence is an attribute
pretty sure there aren't any attribute affecting seeds
Poedb has all of the modifier tags
Or craft of Exile, but thats a Bit Harder to Look at
anyone met a harvest craft where you remove IIR mods.
there's all crafts
no rarity, unfortunately. ;)
fitting meme from reddit:
There's remove random non x affix add x but..
yeah that's usually not gonna work for a "deterministic target annul"
Do i loose collectors craft if i leave the garden without emptying them ?
you can portal out but once you make a new one it's gone
do you make new one if you port from ho btw (if you opened it from map)? i never actually tried
i tried going bad to the original instance and letting the others expire but it didn't work
yeah, if you want a fresh one from your ho you need to ctrl-click the grove
Does synth aug get rid of implicit?
So I think I'm doing something incorrectly. I have a bunch of t2 seeds ready to harvest in a disperser, but I cannot harvest them. Do they get harvested when I click harvest on a collector that's situated next to the disperser, even though those seeds don't fall into the area shown by the collector?
they have to be in range of a collector to be harvested
they dont need a dispenser once they are grown though
So I just pick up the disperser and put a collector there instead?
yes
if you don't want to replace hardware each time, you can set it up so your dispersers water from the sides and just leave the collector there
Stupid question, is it connected to the collector?
And if it is try picking it up and putting it down again
removing and replacing has helped me and friends earlier at least
what is the lowest ilvl seed I can use to craft on a ilvl 84 piece ?
74
I highly doubt that but I did not try
afaik you can only change sockets on a corrupted item
Don't think you can change sockets with harvest on corrupted items
But as I said, did not try
Using that "sacrifice armor to create a ring with similar modifiers" can you put the explode as phys dmg from crusader on a ring??
@slender relic I tried. You can't. Was a bit sad, tho I should expect that.
the amulet and ring crafts have swapped descriptions
yo does the t3 mod that adds an influence to an item that isnt influenced reroll it as well?
or does it just add it?
What's the Seed requirements to end up with 1800+ to craft the Garden Table thing?
just adds it Gun, quinn hit elder on a 2h axe b4 and it didnt reroll
a thing of t2 is enough lupus, a field of 3's lets you build like 20 tables at high levels
If i got ~3 tanks with 300/300 in (purple) this means ive done something wrong with my connections , right?
talking about hard left Disperser and top right, which are grayed out
If I had an item whose only cold mod possible was cold resistance, but all three suffixes were already filled, would the Remove non-cold + add a cold mod force a suffix to be removed? Or would the harvest craft just fail to work?
afaik only with the remove non x add x affix which is.. less useful
Does this work on unique jewels?
hey guys, what do I need to do when I buy the horo<something>? How do I save crafting mods on them?
you place the horoscope station on the ground
link it with a color
next time you clear a harvester when you click on a recipe
a button on the left will pop up
with which you can save a craft
they work with just 1 color
right, so I need to get 3. I can just link it to a pylon?
so anywhere, as long as it's linkable to a pylon?
would be really annoying if it has to link to the collector itself.
yeah just a pylon
it needs to be in the same loop as the harvester
but not directly linked
and just plop it down and use it when done?
hmmm, so I can just bring the thing along when there's a good craft I want to save, then pack it away after....
that's neat.
i have like 30 deployed just in case
woah, that's a lot.
it really picks up when you reach t3 seeds
a lot of the crafts in t2 are shit
so youre better off getting horoscope stations
a full t2 field is like....8-10k life force
you might use 3-4k at best
and t3 & 4 offer way more juice
O.o is that level based? Even with a couple threes mixed in I don't get the 1800 for a hort
Hmm. I'll be okay next field then. Think I was low 70s last try
Does map mods that increases monster density helps?
density doesnt help since monsters spawn at a set amount
but i am fairly certain that quantity increases seed drops
Also, I really need to run higher tier maps 😦
for t2-4
hmmm, Quantity... right. I should pay attention to that then.
so running unid-ed map helps
I havent played for a little while. Just got back to POE. Had no idea what to do with delirium and the previous league. Tane Octavius dude.
Do "Lucky values" make rare modifiers more common as well as Sanctified fossil?
Lucky Makes the value within a Tier Roll twice. There is another Thing... Its Like, Rerolls but With a Higher Chance of high Tier modifiers, that works Like the sanctified
anyone who has been farming t3-t4 seeds, can you tell whether I'll ever need more than 9 full storages of each juice?
I'm at the point where I make more juice when I use and I'm not sure whether it's fine wasting it, or should I keep collecting it...
I mean... I don't know if you need 30 per type
t4 seeds drain 2 tanks per cycle
A full Low lvl T3 field needs 1000 Juice for both types
30 per type is an awful lot of space wasted
but 9 is probably a little shallow for T3/T4 regular farming
like if you're buying seeds
A high lvl T3 seeds needs Closer to 2000 per Type per round
So your 9 Tanks would Not suffice after a single map
30 seems like overkill to me
after this upcoming patch all your T1 fields will return every 3 cycles
a field of t3 seeds seems overkill tbh
well that too
Not really
i guess people buying seeds can achieve that
Its the Most seed efficient
A full T2 field yields 4-8 T3 seeds
So after Like 3-4 fields T2, you have a full T3 field, roughly
i dont understand how you find enough space for so many harvesters
Depends a Bit on rng of course
and like 100 storage tanks
I only have 1 advanced field
And 5 Basic fields per type, From which i use 4 per type, 1 is for leveling
There is no need to start growing Higher Tier seeds before you have 24.
You can obviously Cut the leveling fields and Exchange them for T2s, because those do appear fairly.often
The Garden has a Ton of space. You can fit 3 Tanks between max range Pylons for example. And many edges have room for Tanks
okay, good to know, gonna keep collecting the juice
definitely can make space for 100 storage tanks, atm all garden is filled with t1 farms and 3 high tier gardens
but if I keep harvesting, I don't need more than 3 of each t1 gardens, really
it's only qol that I can keep planting without harvesting for longer, if I have 6+ of each garden
hum, so i got a soft lock cuz a death during root wall phase => cant finish the boss fight, then i go do an other map cuz.. nothing else to do, but even if i harvest an other T4 see nothing happen, did i broke my garden? :(
What is the minimum tier of map i have to run to get seeds which i can craft on ilvl 83-86 items?
76 seeds can craft 86 items
yes
any idea why when i press auto-plant seeds , it wont plant any , even though i have alot of them in the inverntory?
are they t2? auto plant only works on t1
i have both t1 and t2 in the chest
do i actually need to have them in my inventory to auto plant? cause from what i know , i can auto seed from the chest
no, it takes them from the chest


