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not for lookout, i ran 20 of them approximately and they're always at the beginning
unless i have mad rng which i doubt
weird
sooo is there any disadvantage of using for example a 76 seed craft on a lvl 83 item?
I've not got to mapping yet but has anyone else had issues getting wild and vivid seeds, I've got three plots full of primal seeds and opening seed caches keeps giving me them?
I like it for the socket links but it's going to make using them harder in the end with out the build up of concentrated lifeforce from the other types
I believe a level 76 seed craft can only give a level 76 mod. But I'm not sure
wrong
a 65 craft can give a 75 mod
the craft is only affected by ilvl of the item
Are there any weights/tables of what actually qualifies as a 'defensive' for example what does block/stun fall under? Are they all defensive, or are the ones that modify the monsters are they considered offensive?
poedb have all the info, most mods have a internal tag
so if the mod have a defence tag then its classified as a defence mod
https://poedb.tw/us/mods.php specifically
Tyvm
Do storage tanks have to be within a certain range or colletors to work or just connected somehow?
just conected
@rigid stream Ty
What falls under defense modifiers for seed crafts
anything with the hidden tag "defence"
you need to look it up at a site such as "poedb"
how do I store the crafts in the horticrafting?
link it to the harvester with the craft
then click the craft on the harvester and you get an option to the left of it to store it
ty
y doesnt matter if you do it after
Cluster jewel drop rate isn’t 25% per delirium reward is it
Think I'm officially over this league. Been farming color crafts for 2 hours and not a single red socket craft. Then went and spent 2 ex on seeds and still didn't get one.
Is red rarer than the other colors or am I just fucked?
Can you use harvest to roll cluster jewel
@viscid chasm isnt there a discord where you can trade services like harvest crafts?
It's rng bro
best item for harvesting "Change a Unique Bestiary item or same with an Aspect into Lures of the same beast family" ?
@ashen brook I have no idea, is there?
yeah there is, not sure which discord server it is though
that would be a much more efficient way to get what you want
cos trading >>> playing as always
Yeah, though I was getting around that by buying the seeds. Can you use other people's crafting stations for harvest though?
no, you have to give them the item to use
I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong here.
can I post a screenshot?
no..
I have a Vivid Lifeforce Collector with 5 fully grown seeds, but the collector says it needs at least 3. I have 2 more than that, but it won't harvest
oh, I guess you need 8 for T2
Yeah, needs 3 additional
is there a toggle for the harvest UI buttons? I can't see any buttons, so I can't harvest or plant etc, I've tried relogging
does level of the seed affect the chance of rolling better rolls? or just the ilvl it can affect (also is there an item level too low or only too high)
@wind kernel try Z or re-enter the instance with ctrl+left click
you're in an outdated instance from the sounds of it
I've tried entering different instances, switching servers, etc
Anyone here used an infused engineer’s orb yet? I know it sends qual to 30, just wondering if it’s worth or if I should sell em to people doing heavy juicing?
I've also tried re-entering the original map it last worked in, as well as entering from outside of maps altogether
ctrl+lclick the harvest thing from teleporter didnt work? other than that all I can say is try Z
maybe log off for 15min for all your instances to fully reset
yeah I'll try that
a break might be nice, I've tried everything else... even pressing every button on my keyboard 1 by 1 lol
@wind kernel happens when you have a random mob run away
...Which is annoying, but it sometimes happens. Hope it's fixed by now
yeah I thought it might've been that, but couldn't find a mob, so ended up entering new maps and creating new instances which didn't work either
I hope it's fixed by now, I've been logged off to let all instances reset, but I can't log in atm because my steam install is glitched and is stuck on an update for the past half hour, so I'll probably wait until tomorrow to check on it
Just update to standalone 
is blisterfruit the free slam?
nice, keywords in harvest are highlighted now
https://i.redd.it/j7715npzg1651.png @cobalt falcon
Thx cyan, i need stole that pic!
how come I ignored the right bottom part of that image
Wow that layout is monkaS.
you can barely use a 1/3 of that
I've been holding off upgrading till I need to and haven't even gotten a t2 setup going ._.
This is somehow worse than synthesis in terms of confusing and tedious mechanics
but its not
It isn't though?
schematics can be convoluted but theyre very unnecessary
Most of your farming is t1, which is super simple garden setup.
like the T2 craft changing the elemental resist type is so good
you just craft your best bench craft res and the seed gives you a real one for free
targeted exalt with same tier
I just feel like doing homework and research for a game defeats the whole purpose.
That's why I loved 3.10
well that's PoE man
just go ham and get shit
it's always been extremely strong to have knowledge in PoE
Crafting in PoE has always been pretty involved and given the item system I don't think there if a way around that.
delirium was a braindead league compared to usual leagues
People complaining about garden setup are just being silly though.
Betrayal was good, yes
Betrayal still is insane money if you do it right 
cuz there was something fun alongside the knowledge
?
GGG just doesn't seem to care that if you have no SSD betrayal is just..
Which part is so bad?
woops intervention encounter 5 seconds freeze
Huh.
everything else is fine
but intervention just freezes
and since they're dangerous if you're in a T16 and you're not playing a jugg
GL
In simulacrum, yeah
the other events are fine
like RN i click delirium portal and if reward type isn't a good one i instant skip
cba playing a map with 10fps for an armor drop
@hasty perch It's time to buy an ssd. It's required to play most games soon. We're soon gonna need a fast ssd like we need a fast graphics card. In a few years.
I hope they fix their game a bit for PoE 2 , I don't get how just loading town in PoE takes 5 times the ressources it takes to play witcher 3 in high def
only PoE "requires" an ssd
like there's an issue somewhere
Yea most games do not need a ssd.
My performance/smoothness has been significantly better with Vulkan.
it's better too for me
but delirium still eats my fps
and intervention is still broken
fun thing is intervention was smooth as f in betrayal league
they just broke something
and didn't bother fixing it
Honestly, they should Just enforce SSD at this point
that's silly
Even back then when the Game came Out they ecisted and werent that expensive
a F2P game enforcing a SSD makes no sense business wise
It does, it saves a Lot of hassle optimising for HDD
but being a F2P is to have a bigger target market
It shouldn't need a ssd to begin with though...
so it would make no sense
like fortnite enforcing an ID check and being above 15
that would make no sense
and would hurt their playerbase
Beeing f2p and having at least a Minimum hardware requirement arent mutually exclusive
Although if possible you should get a cheapo ssd, they're fairly cheap now and even a basic one does the job.
an SSD isn't the least minimum
An SSD costs 20 bucks
you're like expecting everyone to live in your country?
i'm in senegal right now and it's pretty obnoxious getting a SSD here
Is Amazon not that stocked over there?
a lot just don't deliver here
and there's other issues about delivery i'd rather be able to get them in a shop myself
because yeah they have ... interesting way to deliver here
still not used to not having a damn number and road name
which seems pretty damn weird when you first arrive
Thats a bit rough, yea
@hasty perch
We know exactly what the change with betrayal interventions was btw
And why it causes stuttering if u have slow loading
this number seems very low
@midnight phoenix You can't tease info like that and not explain it 
Hey guys, would a theorectical setup like this work with regards for farming?
can that fit anywhere on the garden?
That seems scuffed
No, it's just for a theoretical setup. Will the dispersers take from the storage tanks, despite the fact that they aren't directly connected with pylons?
yes
This is the setup that I tend to use for my farms
If it connected, whetever its by pylon or storage or collector, its connected
That feels like a minefield...
Hey guys, does anyone know if Harvest crafts obey meta-mods ?
Yes they do
Is the garden account or character bound and will my next character at lv 1 auto plant lv 70 seeds from my stockpike?
its account bound
lmao yeah you can auto plant some big boys
lmao good to know. ill put em in the tab while leveling. ty guys
i seem be having a hard time geting wild seeds
They all have the same droprate regarding flavor
i tried going back to act 1 see if i could get some more but i don't see them
League mechanics get disabled once you're past a level threshold.
You need a low level character to farm low level areas.
whats the name of the T4 Seeds?
anyone can confirm if harvest crafts ignore cannot be removed crafts?
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No, you cant Put l full collectors into the seed cache
None of them
You can however Just Put them into your stash
I minmaxed a spot on the groove for flexibility.
Having any tier/color you choose, it just works.
And also made it the smalles it can be.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/hfjzoh/rainbow_plots_plant_anything_anywhere_inside_the/
Exactly how long does a growth cycle last?
each time you click a seed pod
Oh...
this is what it looks like btw
If my seed spawns a monster that has a lower level than the ilvl of the piece of gear I want to craft can I still use it ?
+10 leeway
so a 70 seed can work on a 79 helmet?
How do you spawn the bosses exactly? Cant find any info on it
Ah gotcha ty
get the one morthem posted earlier and a bunch of T1 plots
Even if you spam quarry like a madman, like srsly mad, you wont ever need that big setup. you wont have enough T2s let alone T3s to fill that up
alright ty
For T4 seeds just add the missing disperser to a patch of your choice
fuck that convoluted mess
Bless.
added a small note for t4s
that same version but with all the t1 plots on the lower right corner is better, imo
you don't have to tour your whole garden for a quick check
@river ridge That is very nice, I was about to dabble in something similar but this will help. Will end up modifying it a bit to my taste.
The specifics of where you put your t1 plots really isn't a big deal...
Also the whole thing is a lot simpler than some people are making it out to be, moving sections around is incredibly easy.
why did you erase pylons on that image
the people that don't have it clear, colu not be able to replicate it
also again, that setup is bad, because it only has 20 instead of 24 higher Tier seeds, meanign you lose IIQ and Lifeforce
cause you dont get a full harvest
what about this setup? https://imgur.com/a/kzQvwsr
same issue
only 20 instead of 24
Thats much, much more important than filling out 99.9% of your garden
higher tier= T3+ ?
T2+
T2 included
Also that full setup has 0 horticrafts
yes
You want as many horticrafts as you can fit
they are so op
i was going to go with this one
with 2 alone you can guarantee 6 Offcolor Sockets on any item of your choice
also 20 isntead of 24
isnt this the same as the pinned with extra storage
could be, yes
pylons arent shown because they dont really matter
do you have a setup with 24 @rigid stream ?
igonere the ungrown T1s at the side
that setup pretty much lets you grow any T2 with just a simple reqire and replace of the collector
for T3 you have to place 4 additional dispensers, but thats not an issue
there is enough room
does it really matter
in what meaningful way
you lose IIQ and Lifeforce per Harvest and get less out of your rare seeds
there is a bonus for each seed after 8 you harvest, up to the max of 24
and you get less Higher Tier seeds as a result
meaning, if you do 30 harvest of 8, you get much less than doing 10 harvests of 24
even though you used the same ammount of seeds
The collector tells you that
its on the harvest button
Also it was during the talk with chris and Ziggy and afaik also in the main trailer and also on the main page
And on pretty much every media outlet^^
Its basically like the Metamorph organ bar
fair enough
sorry for making it scuffed, but would this not work for a 24?
yea should work, but keep in mind you need to fill the corners with appropriate seeds
that you cant collect
cause otherwise the corner seed wont grow
so the corners would be T1
but if you want to grow a T3 in the centre and you plant T2 on the corner, would the corner seed grow? don't they need 4 seeds?
they'd only have 3
as far as i know, the supporting seeds dont have to be able to grow
so the T3 in the corner has 4 adjacent, 3 inside 1 outside
and the outside thing is whatever, but you can place T1 seeds around it if you want it grown
by "1 outside" you mean i should have a harvester next to that setup, plant a seed on the ground, remove the harvester and keep the seed on the ground?
you can place seeds without a harvester^^
😮
you can litter your entire garden with seeds if thats what you want, lel
so what's the deal with the crafting thing?
been wondering how they came out with the "Horticrafting" name.
is that a joke for "Hold the Crafting"....?
gardencrafting 
what map Tier do i need to do to to harvest ilvl 85 seeds ?
i mean for their growth cycles
Yea, horticulture is a pretty normal English word.
75+ maps work @rocky mulch
@frail bluff they arent growing for me with monster lvl 78
anyone experience a bug where you can plant any seeds when its in your nventory, automatic thingy, but if you dont have any seeds it either doesnt choose any seed or random ones? its quite frustrating when the seed storage doesnt work
it doest autoplant seeds that are too far apart in itemlvl when they are in your seed cache
meaning, if you have lvl 80 seeds out, it wont plant dinky lvl 60 seeds cause that would be bad
What is the maximum ilevel of T1 seeds that can drop?
man quarry makes this league mechanic almost bearable
if I connect Collector, Pylon and Storage in following way:
C-P-S-P-S
will the collector be able to push lifeforce in one, or two storages?
basically can the storage in the middle act as a jump station, without having to connect pylons directly?
awesome, thanks! that will simplify my target layout a little
@rigid stream what do you think about this one?
Seperate fields for T2/3/4 is pretty unnecessary
what would you change
Agreed, seems pretty unnecessary, but then again maybe you're a super juicer who plans on buying and sustaining all of this 🤷♂️
what would you change
?
The layout in the pins is probably fine for most people
Personally I think I'll be fine with 3xT1s for each, 1xT2/3 for each and 1 swappable T4.
So thats what I'm doing.
but really theres no need to plan this stuff out, just slap down some harvesters and stuff
the grove has more than enough space
you only need like 3 life force t1 fields of each color and a single field of each color for higher tier seeds, i build 3x1 t1 3x1 t2/3 and 3x1 4s and literally dont fill 75% of my fields
I don't like the t2/3 plots in the pins, it doesn't do 24 seeds at once.
Which you kinda wanna for the increased life force modifier for a bigger harvest.
https://i.imgur.com/d8xb59K.png heres what i did and its overkill
so the same as mine but removing the T3s
yea you use the same field for 2s and 3s
would i need to change the outside seeds of the corners?
from T1 to T2 if i'm planting T3?
you can put them in any configuration it literally doesnt matter where you put things
sounds good, thanks
yup
i'll go with yours then
could you link the other pylon configurations so i don't have to spend more than i should building it, please?
the conections
yes, please
i didnt really go that far with it but i can real fast
im not sure how legible it will be but let me try
don't worry, thanks anyways
if you don't have it already
i know how to work the tanks
don't know about this pylon tho
i belive it is this
hopefully you can tell how that is, connections are hard to show
looks good, thanks a lot
i feel like a lot of the conections are like:
Pylon connects with 3 things, and then a fourth thing that is shared with another pylon
the low lighted yellow and purple squares kinda show the pathing which isnt super critical as long as every yellow object as at least one connection to the circuit somewhere
so if it connects to 3 things then a shared pylon kinda think of that as an electrical power source, using a pylon between the 3 allows you room for expansion later, youll notice some pylons arent neccesary to complete the circuit but if you want to add horticulture stations or more storage youll need the additional connections
i'm loving the mecanic more and more tbh
there's so many really targeted things you can do
its kinda interesting if you get really 5 head about it too
when i reach 50 craftingstaions then it might get interesting
like I started the league late due to bad internet and i'm running with 130% all res on garbo gear because my rings are both 110%+ resists mainly made with benchcrafting res harvest
the T2 seed swapping the ele res is so damn insane
it's basically ok bro add a 35% res you want as targeted exalt on every harvest
the really good crafts are pretty rare though so you have a lot of excess crafts or life force but its kinda cool to just keep a stash full of good bases and hit some decent gear to sell using a few crafts
yeah augments are really really rare
but with the remove add , and ele swap it's not that rare
after planting 10k seeds i got 1 augment caster craft
augments get like no drop rate in maps yep
but that's kinda fine imo
if they were too common it would be absurd
augmenting a caster mod is easily worth several exalts
in endgame crafting
its basically a targeted exalt
yeah
and considering how hard it is to annul the brick you exalted
it's just so damn good
crit and speed augments are nuts too
for boots and tailwind elusive
i just feel you need loads of horticrafts to make it worth
yeah , as I'm late on the league (well late is a big word we're week 1 and i missed 2-3 days)
i'm trying to get to T16s to get better life force out of seeds
and make some horticraft stations
but damn do T1/T2 seed help with gearing
just run quarry over and over and you get 2 craft stations per 20t2
idk feels boring
i'd rather get higher tier seeds and progress my atlas at the same time
especially now that my char got a bit of a gear upgrade it progresses quite well
well the worth of the map seeds is just bad compared to lvl 65 seeds
i ran quarry to have the full garden setup tho
they give a lot more life force
Especially with the Double seed and enough mapquant
You are gonna end Up with 70k lifeforce
and It would really surprise me if mods were not also weighted by ilvl
They are
it seems logical for GGG to do that
They are definitely weighted by Ilvlw
who cares if they give mroe lifeforce when i can do quarry in 10sec, collect 1k seeds and hour and get way mroe t2 that then turn into way more t3 and then turn into way more t4
yeah , seems fair to avoid people farming quary to get free exalts
Low level t4s that you can’t use on really nice things
That also doesn’t progress your atlas or get you anything else
you only need ilvl 75, which happens to most good mods be at
Am taking to Maximus
Also you cant grow the Heart of the grove with quarry seeds
oh ok
all in all after delirium which was extremely intrusive I'm happy about the change of pace
i made 20ex by running quarry, i havent made 20 ex by running red maps
i mean, i made 20ex by runnign quarry in lets say 10hours, i havent made 20ex by runnign red maps in 10hours
path of math has a video out he made 50 ex in one day rushing red maps , its doable for sure
the rush is over
I can make that much with decent maps, and it’s not as boring as wuarry
it was over 10hours into the league
seed drops in maps just feels useless, they need to up it by 3x
it could definitely use a little boost, in quantity at bare minimum to let us force harvest higher tiers quicker
I get like 5-10 seeds per map.
Assuming an avg of 7 and most seeds taking 3-4 cycles to grow, thats 21-28 seeds per set.
Which is enough for another set. The problem ofcourse is that it's divided between 3 types.
why can't I use the lifeforce in my storage tank to make another storage tank
strored life force becomes condensed, it can only be used out of dispersers not in crafting stations or collectors
stockpile seeds or get to higher level areas for higher level seeds they give more life foce, doing a combination of the 2 will grant you a ton of life force per harvest
isn't the max I can get 55 lifeforce?
so how do I get 75 lifeforce
plant more seeds
like i said stockpile higher level seeds, then plant them all at once and harvest them all at once, add up the life force of each seed before you plant it, that will be your outcome at full harvest
thanks
It seems like the instant you finish act 4 you stop getting good craft options
i mean i crafted a 400 pdps axe and a 6 link chest in like act 10, so i dont think its that dramatic ;p
but there is a drop off between acts and maps i think
Getting "remove a non-physical mod and add a physical mod" is ridiculously hard after a certain point
i do think they should switch up the chances of certain mods in maps
cause the whole excitement of the league is these craftsd
so making them inaccessible isnt fun
Harvest crafts don't ruin the game as chris says, they make leveling bearable and barely change mapping lol
yeah and i think thats a problem... cause you have this period in maps where harvest is basically irrelevant
does anyone else have bugged plants that wont grow?
They arent bugged
cause you have your base gear and your big boi crafting isnt until later cause you need bases ;p
so you just twiddle your thumbs for ten years
You're not running high enough content
If you're running stuff too below your seeds they don't grow
@radiant lance 6l chest and 400pdps sound like outliers tho
probablyu
i had two 5ls and no target exalts during my time in harvest
i was super surprised to see a 6 link craft before maps
so if they r levl 78 i have to run 78 level map @violet nymph
Or higher
if it makes you feel better.. its on a trash astral plate
Some gear should be cheap in trade leagues right
astral sounds pretty good
I'll be really disappointed if they don't keep some form of early-level crafting in poe after harvest. If they don't, literally no reason to start anything but spells
Or CA TR
bet they're redoing crafting systems
harvest has taught me, crafting early is fun when you have actual deterministic options
Yeah
this leauge is a test for these crafting options basically, to see how it impacts the game play, economy etc
so if they figure out a way to provide a similar experience moving forward i will be happy
i think its good for the game
I started slams and was giddy about getting high pdps weapons for the level
That was probably the most fun time through acts i ever had
i also think this is really good for introducing people to crafting
cause there is zero chance you can convince people to spend their 'currency' on crafting 9 times out of 10... but its way easier to encourage someone to craft with a menu option
A league mechanic making acts bearable is unprecedented for me
the idea is good but the implementation is bad, they should have done a balance craft vs kill rewards, like put powerful mosnters at the cache or something that has increased drops or special drops, instead of just having 100% focus on craft
which idea of making new builds
Usually i only make 1 or 2 per league because i fucking hate acts
they dont want to provide a deterministic crafting on the high end because doing so means that crafters either make their best gear get bored and quit quickly, or just print money
even more than they already do
They're printing money now with the unlimited 100% currency beyond delirium maps lol
Anyway i think maps should still have some amount of good crafting available
And it scales off super hard between like t10 and t16
Or something
but what does the harvest crafting station thingie do
stores up to 3 crafts
how do people go about selling garden crafts?
collateral or something? 3rd party service?
generally by any other hard to trade craft or service: usually offering to stream it or collateral (or both)
in the past ive discord streamed for people buying double corrupts, that sort of thing
hmm
is a 'augment lucky lightning mod' worth trying to sell you think? or just scrap it (lvl 83)
dunno any lightning builds this season
is there a link to that somewgere?
thank you
^^
Do we know whether or not seed level affects the chances of getting better/worse crafts?
Like would it be easier to get rarer craft options with lvl 83 seeds as opposed to lvl 65 seeds?
we know theres something of an inverse effect for leveling vs mapping levels
other than that im not aware of any
There a cap on how many seeds you can mature at once? half my t1 seeds wont advance now
You are running too Low lvl zones
And yes seed lvl dictates what you can get, really Low lvl and really high lvl gives better results on average
ok good looks like im putting off this craft til I get to t15s LMAO
gone through like 3k seeds
and nothing I want yet
im lvl 65 spamming quarry the rest are advancing fine
ive taken some out and replanted a few collectors see if it fixes
guess my best way to get into craft is gonna be to just rush high tier maps
quarry farming for seeds lets you craft upto i75 bases
Yea but it cant Spawn lucky exalts, Nor the good T3 seeds
easy to spam rare a lot of maps free too tho
Oh, yes, that works
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/hemlrn/poe_harvest_sacred_grove_planner/
I have created a garden planning tool, try it if you want to create a plan
So, harvest encounters VI seems to be broken. I didn't see it on the known bugs thread. Anyone able to confirm/deny this?
Which one is 6
Just did both the essences and currency ones, and neither updated the count
Change currency for alternate currency, change fossils/essences/orbs/oils/catas for an alternate stack
Infused zana mods part seems to be working fine
can someone tell me what do i have to do here to change my unique?
or what does unique piece means? isnt it the normal unique items?
so
harbinger uniques drop in pieces
thne you arrange them in inventory
to make them assemble
yeah, just confirmed again, exchanges are not counting toward harvest encounters 6.
Remove a random Fire modifier from an item and add a new Fire modifier. will it change the tier of resistance?
great to know. ty
anyone tried out the Spectres out of garden ?
Not yet, but some of the primal ones Seem promising, they have a worb Type projectile thing
the vivid shoot a charged projectiled
What happens to all the condensed lifeforce and why can’t I use it from the storage tank?
What's needed to get the 1800 lifeforce to craft a horticulture station? Will T1 lvl 83 seeds work? T2?
Hi ! Has there been any issues with dispersers ? I set them on auto but still have to click on the icon to "use" them. When I map, I come back 3-4 maps later, my t2/t3 seeds are glowing red and I have to reuse the dispersers manually even though I have enough lifeforce 😦
you need t2 seeds for the horticrafts
and they auto disperse
they just glow red cause they like doing that
if they are set up correctly and you have lifeforce, they just do their stuff
Anyone know why the last little dregs of energy dont transfer out my collector when i condense? There's plenty space in my tanks
seeds glowing red is very confusing though, when I click the disperser, they stop glowing xD
your collector cant be emptied after it has some lifeforce unless you use it to fertilise
They auto disperse on growth tick
they arent fertilised before they tick so they glow^^ but it just works, so dont worry about it and keep in check if you have enough lifeforce
ok, thanks ! still confusing 😛
Oh so i needa collect the collector to a disperser rip
no
the collector will keep the lifeforce untill used
but any additonal lifeforce you get goes into the storage
So how do i use up the condensed energy stuck in the collector
Annoying me cause they wont stack lul
empty it out by perfectly dispersing something. But thats a hassle, just let it stay on the ground^^
does quantity affect seed drops when u click on the cache?
Map quantity does thats why they are juicing up maps and opening full gardens
no, they dont even have to be growing
lol a guildie gave me a pile of vaals for spare maps and i got the colors right in 3 attempts
yay now i have functional body armor that's not a tabula rasa
last noob gear to replace is the goldrim
woo exalt drop
Does the level of a harvest craft determine the mods it can hit? e.g. does a lv65 craft that adds a modifier only add mods up to that level, even if I use it on an ilvl75 item?
Does the level of a harvest craft determine the mods it can hit? e.g. does a lv65 craft that adds a modifier only add mods up to that level, even if I use it on an ilvl75 item?
@carmine kayak seems so afaik
ah so even though I can use 65 crafts on a 75, if I want corrosive elements on a jewel I need 75 seeds
thats an ouch
hey, how do you get the crafting bench? my mate stored enough lifeforce to afford it, but he never gets the option to craft one
Does delirium pause while in the grove?
you cant spend condensed lifeforce on that stuff
have to get a single bunch of seeds that produces over 1800 uncondensed
Why the hell are my T2 seeds not getting the lifeforce that's being sprayed over them
visual bug, just keep mapping
ok ty
does anyone know if devastator worked with saviour/ works with general's cry
if you had frenzy charges when you summoned saviour, would it get the damage and AS bonus even though it didnt have the charges itself
What am I even storing life force for?
for sprinklers
is anyone good at farm wiring ?
can anyone confirm that quarry farm can generate t4 seeds eventually
ive just completed the 99.5 farm and im having problems with the wild lifeforce not reaching dispersers
for t2 seeds theres a storage pot right next to the disperser that needs to sprinkle on the seeds and its full of life force
Okay , thats something i guess
yea they pumped it up pretty decently, i got a few 20 seed caches now
how do you search for specific harvest crafts on the official trade site?
seed name
when you try to kill the mobs for the tier 2 and 3 seeds. when you die...can you go back and continue killing them? everytime it die...it will let me back into my grove. but all my seeds will be gone.
Hey guys question how do you unlock the crafting station for harvest?
you have to harvest enough lifeforce to craft it
ya i have 9 full stations filled
nah nah
you have to produce it all at once...once its in the tanks. the only thing you can do it spread it to your seeds.
so
1 field has to produce 1600 or how ever much it costs. so 1 field of tier 2s should produce enough to make it
make sence?
sense
ya thank you
cool
how are the seed drops after the patch? I still didn't have time to test and am curious
I have some T1 blue seeds in my stockpike, but my harvester isn't auto planting them. What did I do wrong?
They're probably too low level. You can still plant them manually
Ah, ok. thanks!
WHOMST PING
does anyone have a good layout that also include the crafting store stations? I see some that have full garden with stuff but no station to store crafts?
how to spawn the ultimate harvest boss?
Dude wtf
I'm getting one shot by this blue mob
"Of Prey., Has powerful crits"
and it's jkust ending me
well bois with the new buffed seed amounts
youll need more than 3 t1 patches

ive gotten more than 1 patch worth of seeds from a pod
ya'll having really jacked seed spawn rates? i i think i have 3 patches t1, 1 patch t2, 1 patch t3/t4
How much are you getting from a single map and what tier?
I saw one image of 30 seeds but I didn't catch the tier.
The 9 storage tanks on most layouts felt not enough to me already. That's what I want to upgrade.
I have way more than 9 per color now
ive gotten several times 30 seeds from t14-16s
30 seeds per map would average to 10 seeds of each type and assuming 3-4 growth cycles of t1 seeds that would mean 1-2 plots worth of seeds every set?
Unless by several times 30 you mean you got 100+ seeds from a single map 
So 3 T1s is enough?
i personally went with 4 now
cause if you get a streak of the same color seeds
you cant plant them all
Are you able to 6L harvest craft a unique?
anyone selling t1 seeds?
Anyone else having an issues where certain seeds are not growing? They T1 seeds I auto planted and are in the proper grow areas I have used before. I just reset my client have having a full square of them and few around the center of another not grow after a few cycles.
How does the 'Set a new implicit modifier on a X jewel" function? Since usually jewels don't have any implicit (without being a corrupted one, that is)
there are new jewel implicits added this patch
Ah, are those listed somewhere? Can't seem to find them on poedb (or I'm just being blind)
@nimble raven are you running maps too low to grow those seeds
it's either that or they aren't getting some particular color of life force needed for the next cycle
but if they're T1s I guess it must be the level of the region
where do you get more disperser?
craft 'em with life force from any harvest
they'll be at the bottom of the craft menu
yeah I just figured ohsabi may have a quest step
to only give you dispersers once you start trying to plant T2
yeah i have one, just wondering where can i get more?
maybe you can only craft them after you grow your first T2
I don't remember to be honest
like at some point they are on that craft menu between pylons and storage tanks
I didn't need to grow a T2 to get my craft unlocked. I did place one and did have a T2 in my seed stash though.
hey guys, whats the intervall for auto planting seeds? like if 5 level under my level or?
If you have them in your inventory it will place all afaik
yeah i know, but sometimes you just wanna autoplant stuff
i think so
I'm having problem setting up my garden, like half my seed don't get lifeforce from the disperser somehow?
the seed on the upper side get the lifeforce while the one down doesn't
can someone help me with gardening?
i choose to remove life mod and add life mod option and "#% increased elemental damage with attacks" got removed and changed with life flask recovery rate. am i missing something?
on poedb WED is clearly not a life mod...
ele dmg with attacks absolutly isnt alife mod^^
and i see no more remove options on lvl65 seed. Is it latest patch?
they exist
ive yet to invest much time into harvest, is the 8 dispenser set up used for tier 2 plants viable for tier 3 aswell?
ty
Would this be able to be used on an item level 82 base?
dam
anyway to fast plant t2 seeds? does having them in your inventory work?
is there a good casual layout for t4 essences ?
today's lab so crap ; i don't get how people run this crap lol
does anyone know if dispersers can act as pylons to channel energy through to storage tanks?
I don't get how people run lab in general
Wait so it's impossible to harvest craft on a ilevel 100 base?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2874544
@rapid summit
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when's the cluster jewel change going live?
next week most likely
guys
this guaranteed tailwind/elusive right?
if i craft something from 73 ilv seed on 83 ilv item, item ilv will be lowered to 73?
@ruby roost No
does augmenting something with harvest bench erase catalyst quality?
is there any seed that can craft Attack speed or dot?
attack modifier seeds?
speed modifier
sure, but attack can roll a bunch of junk
Anyway to get into the Harvest boss Root wall encirclement?
it spawned it while i was away, and now the fight is bricked.
am i seeeing it right that you need one horticraft station per color?
trying to follow the farm diagram in the pins but dont see how the t1 farms connect to the middle?
flying, you can mix and match, but you can only have one color connected to a horticraft station at once
just disconnect it if you want to connect another color
once a craft is in the horticrafting station, it no longer cares about colors
@runic zephyr no you can move horticraft stations around
yea thats what i ment... that sounds like a pain in the ass, ugh
sending crafts to horticraft costs nothing extra right?
so when youre overflowing on lifeforce you should always send all the crafts to the station?
or can it just store a limited number of crafts?
you can only store 3 per station
dang
just make more stations when you can
wtf
a taste
anyways, I just bricked my grove
spawned final boss in a map, map was too overloaded in mods, more than i thought I could handle so I lost the fight
boss doesnt show up now
nor the whole mechanic to respawn, quest still popping up, but no nothing
or does it start up again after X cycles of harvesting?
do T4 seeds need all 3 fertilizers?
Yes
thanks
I think this might be a better layout for harvest. @copper kernel I see you pinned the current one. Could you take a look and update? New patch increased seed drops so I’d assume that means more storage will be needed. This also makes better use of the top right for t2+ collectors allowing up to t4 seeds to be grown.
Credit to /u/setharial on reddit for sharing it.
from my experience you need more storage for sure and 1 more collector for each color
but i can just pin both

Sounds Good to me. The one I linked there has 4 t1 fields each, crafting stations, storage and all. It should be solid.
Thanks dude
tbf you can just pickup full horoscope stations
they dont need to be placed at all time
is there any way i can purge a storage tank of its essence?
maybe use it to feed some t2+ seeds.
Probably not with the time really.
Hard to have to much storage.
where did all the chaos seeds go, I haven't seen any in 50 maps
I know they made some changes that are effected by the monster level of the region your drops are in. I’d check out the patch notes since there’s a good chance it’s related.
the chaos crafts are mostly lvl 80+ and I am running t14-16. I am also getting 10x as many purple seeds. Does this somehow have something to do with me having a heart of the grove active for blue seeeds?
n=25
what's that "tribute to the goddess" thing about?
do all the seed types grow when you open a seed cache, or only the types that came out of the cache? trying to figure out why this T2 isn't ticking, its being watered OK
all seed types
you have to be doing content that is high enough level to tick seeds that are high level @compact elm
around that yeah
well no actually
just around the level you found the seed
as far as i know
can you harvest higher level mobs? Seems like my garden had one higher level seed and fucked me up
sorry for reposting, but didn't get answer in the other channel : https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/174994219390337024/726147844305715320
anyone know ?
I feel like I'm just missing something that's right in front of me, but how do I access the crafting menu from a collector in the grove?
I got there earlier after a harvest, but I have no idea where to access it again
Its a big Button on the collector?
I only have Harvest and Auto-plant
Maybe I can only craft after I harvest or something
kill monsters, use juice to craft, condense the rest of it for fertilizing purposes
or save crafts if you have a horticrafting station waaay later
Makes sense
I'm just getting to putting down storage tanks and stuff
I just thought I could craft at any time as long as I had lifeforce, but this makes sense
Is there a way to "brick" connection in the garden?
Some of my storage tanks dont pump dispersers while everything is connected (double check that, can put a video of it)
nvm found the missing link
You cant brick your garden afaik
how do u put crafts into the horticulture?
once one is hooked up into the same network as the collector that has the craft, you click on the craft and there will be a button to the left of it to send it to the station
do garden crafts change the item ilvl?
if I want to craft around cooldown recovery speed, (which is no mod like defense or caster) I need some items with that stat, right?
I mean like Tailwind is crit, so you can augment it with harvest
What is the maximum number of horticrafting stations you could have?
but CRS is "nothing" because its shaper/crusader?
Does anyone know the level requirement to craft on gear?
Like what level augment would I need for my iLv 86 piece
I have 74's but they dont work.
what does horticrafting use to apply the craft
why do higher tier maps never drop wild seeds honestly
Are the augment crafts from T1 or T2 seeds?
I really cant tell but...
Does elemental warding get any sort of bonus for numbers of curses removed?
what does horticrafting use to apply the craft
@south aspen when you store the craft it costs life force, when you use the stored craft you don’t spend any additional, it was paid for already
oh
k
so you just effectively craft the craft onto the bench
which then lets you craft onto an item
yep
My T2 seeds have 1 out of 2 checkboxes complete. It still requires lifeforce from a different colored seed. However, it also says it is ready to be harvested. Is this a bug?
are Raw Lifeforce values on seeds doubled when you harvest it?
I wrote down/added up 1800 lifeforce in t2 seeds in order to get my first Horticraft station. popped the farm and got 3600 in lifeforce.
question, if a collector is set up to grow all T4s, will it also be able to grow T3s? I want to set up T1, T2, and T4 plots if this is the case
are the mods you can get from seeds limited by the ilvl of the seed? for example, an ilvl 81 add chaos mod seed can only add up to level 81 mods?
@real elm not doubles exactly but you get an item quantity bonus for each seed in the collector area. Sounds like it might go up to 100% at 24 seeds assuming you had 24 in that collector area.
is there a list of all the crafting options you can get from harvest?
Yes
where can i find it?
A quick google search did it for me.
uhh... is the layout on pin a good layout for ssf casual... or the extreme garden layout from reddit better? 
too many layout, cant decide cuz i dont have time to keep changing layout 
For a casual player you could use only 3 collectors in a line with dispensers on the two interior edges
This will allow you to gorrow up to t4 seeds and covers everything. Maybe go to 6 plots total. No need to do 12 collectors
If you arent buying seeds in bulk you wont have enough seeds to support that much
and do i plant t2 on those plots at top right?
Do i need to match the ilvl of the item with the ilvl of seeds?
You do not--Seedcrafting does have levels of leeway for items to be Seedcrafted upon, however the leeway window starts initially very small (like about 3 item levels), but then grows as you continue progressing. I believe the maximum leeway window is 10 item levels above Seedcraft level?
Sick
ok great ty so much

so I just finally setup my harvest for t2+ (at lv93) - I'm pretty short on condensed lifeforce, will I catch up eventually or should I run quarry to bank some lifeforce?
augment an item with new attack modifier is the exalted thing?
Yes.
Hi all, trying to remove either stun duration, or projectile speed from this item do yall know what craft i could use?
don't think you can remove stun duration, but "speed" should remove projectile speed - https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Wand check here
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"Reroll" craft from plants can change the tier of a suffix or it just reroll its value?
has anyone confirmed if the quality enchant for weapons that gives crit is a local crit or is it global?
if its local it's even better for CoC, but if it's global it's just straight good.
i havent seen a remove or augment harvest craft in a long time, is it just rng, or does using higher ilvl seeds block some crafts from spawning?
No
how yall making currency now
i mean
exalts are 200c and feel like shit to farm up to with chaos
You dont. You map and are poor and craft your own Gear, screw build enabeling Uniques^^
Im still doing the chaos recipe. Havent had any ex drop and im lvl 91
I dont think thats super Worth it, at 200C per ex it Takes very long
Im running low tier maps and just got into reds 6 hours ago. I only do the chaos recipe to buy gear as quick as possible. If an ex dropped i wouldnt have to grind as much
Rng is rng
quick question, mate was using garden craft in a map and left for a trade - leaving his boots in the UI. He went back in his map and it's doing the can't click on anything... are the boots RIP?
does clicking seed cache in low tier maps help to grow higher itemlevel seeds?
there is a limit on how low you can go
is there a table listing all the possible crafts and their spawn weightages?
i was curious whether the crafts are weighted coz the overpowered "remove a random x modifier" crafts feel really rare
definitely weighted lol
and latest patch absolutely fucked the rates up and didnt even bother mentioning the nerf
more seeds in high maps but they nerf rare rates meaning nothing changed lul
i grew like 500 wild hellion seeds and didn't get a single remove phys craft
i have grown about 300 full plots of life seeds without a single life slam or remove/replace
when was the stealth nerf anyway
who know, but i got 9 cold slams in 3 plots 2 days ago
bruh some dude just bought
all my white maps for 1c ea

some new exploit found?
or are maps really just that high demand atm
kinda need more info, what maps did he buy
trying to look for ascendancy trials maybe
everything, he was actually buying everything up to t10 at a 1:1c ratio
@gloomy bay u can just ask for trials in global
ok that’s a lot more maps than I was expecting if he was buying your yellows too
yea sold him like 80 whites LUL
you can craft on ilvl83 bases using white maps
they also made it so you can get the exalt and annul+ exalt slam on maps under ilvl80 @cunning blade
since crafting can be done within ~10ilvls
grab seed and exit
i planted some higher ilvl seeds (t1) and thought about running a few quarries to pop them but they're not advancing at all, what i could be doing wrong?
won't grow if the zone level is too low compared to seedlevel
ugh, no fun allowed at all. thank you!
That's... obvious basic balance.
Imagine the meta being running coast to quickly grow your seeds.
you still need high tier maps to drop high tier seed
and you need appropriate level items to craft with those
it's not like you can use lvl3 seeds on ilvl86 double influenced items
it's already balanced against running coast
Does the harvest add an influence to an non influenced item will reroll the modifiers of the item?
mhm i love this league
Gz
I haven't seen a 6 socket one yet 
Same
i did like 500 socket and link seeds yesterday and got 2 5l and 1 5socket 
hi guys, is there anyway to check which mods each craft on the garden can roll? do you know any website that tells that?
like poe db
cuz im trying to roll "physical damage over time multi" on a lvl 80 hunter amulet but didnt get it
so i was wondering if its even possible
craftofexile.com might help
thats only a phys mod
how much inbetween seed lvl and map lvl to make seeds grown?
@sick helm you have to select the crafting method first
Maybe I'm not understanding things correctly here, but I'm following some excel diagram for setting up an efficient farm... each pylon can have 4 connectors... so how do the storage tanks get extra connections?
like this?
added direction arrows:
Connect each row of storage to the Pylon on its right. Connect the S that is next to the P to the P that is in the row below it as well.
You’re missing two connections
Top row S on the right to middle row P on the right and middle row S on the right to Bottom row P on the right
That leaves the left side P and the top row P for your connections to things
Your way actually does work if you don’t plan to add any more storage though
okay, so, expanding to a second field and keeping what you said in mind... i came up with this
so that's double pylons on either side?
on one side
What you put there will work @pulsar juniper
one main line of pylons with one pylon in front
I can’t make out what’s in tunbarts picture on my phone
the front pylon has 1 connection to the main line and then 3 to storage tanks
okay, so they're just connected in series instead of interwoven
True
and you rarely will need more than 30 tanks or so
Hi, anyone know how to summon oshabi boss?
I currenly have a tier 4 seed and I don't know should I use it or sell it
use the t4
You can expand the 3storage1pylon setup without needing any extra pylons.
You only need 1 pylon to connect to your entire storage bank.
i only lose the lifeforce if i dont use the crafts right?
any lifeforce not used or condensed is lost
so i keep the crafts?
