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small wigeon
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does the seed pouch always spawn at the same spot at maps? im spamming lookout maps and its always at the beginning

rigid stream
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No

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Its random where it spawns

small wigeon
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not for lookout, i ran 20 of them approximately and they're always at the beginning

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unless i have mad rng which i doubt

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weird

abstract wave
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sooo is there any disadvantage of using for example a 76 seed craft on a lvl 83 item?

final venture
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I've not got to mapping yet but has anyone else had issues getting wild and vivid seeds, I've got three plots full of primal seeds and opening seed caches keeps giving me them?

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I like it for the socket links but it's going to make using them harder in the end with out the build up of concentrated lifeforce from the other types

sour mountain
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I believe a level 76 seed craft can only give a level 76 mod. But I'm not sure

jagged surge
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wrong

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a 65 craft can give a 75 mod

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the craft is only affected by ilvl of the item

oblique sluice
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Are there any weights/tables of what actually qualifies as a 'defensive' for example what does block/stun fall under? Are they all defensive, or are the ones that modify the monsters are they considered offensive?

jagged surge
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poedb have all the info, most mods have a internal tag

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so if the mod have a defence tag then its classified as a defence mod

vast gazelle
oblique sluice
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Tyvm

mortal bridge
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they need to increase seed drop by x5

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atleast

pure swallow
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Do storage tanks have to be within a certain range or colletors to work or just connected somehow?

rigid stream
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just conected

pure swallow
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@rigid stream Ty

frosty flicker
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What falls under defense modifiers for seed crafts

jagged surge
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anything with the hidden tag "defence"

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you need to look it up at a site such as "poedb"

violet nymph
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how do I store the crafts in the horticrafting?

jagged surge
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link it to the harvester with the craft

violet nymph
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did

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did it after harvesting

jagged surge
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then click the craft on the harvester and you get an option to the left of it to store it

violet nymph
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ty

jagged surge
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y doesnt matter if you do it after

gloomy bay
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Cluster jewel drop rate isn’t 25% per delirium reward is it

viscid chasm
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Think I'm officially over this league. Been farming color crafts for 2 hours and not a single red socket craft. Then went and spent 2 ex on seeds and still didn't get one.

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Is red rarer than the other colors or am I just fucked?

cobalt falcon
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Can you use harvest to roll cluster jewel

ashen brook
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@viscid chasm isnt there a discord where you can trade services like harvest crafts?

gleaming peak
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Yes entropy

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And regular jewels and maps

wanton rivet
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It's rng bro

celest barn
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best item for harvesting "Change a Unique Bestiary item or same with an Aspect into Lures of the same beast family" ?

viscid chasm
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@ashen brook I have no idea, is there?

ashen brook
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yeah there is, not sure which discord server it is though

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that would be a much more efficient way to get what you want

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cos trading >>> playing as always

viscid chasm
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Yeah, though I was getting around that by buying the seeds. Can you use other people's crafting stations for harvest though?

ashen brook
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no, you have to give them the item to use

whole schooner
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I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong here.

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can I post a screenshot?

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no..

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I have a Vivid Lifeforce Collector with 5 fully grown seeds, but the collector says it needs at least 3. I have 2 more than that, but it won't harvest

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oh, I guess you need 8 for T2

viscid chasm
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Yeah, needs 3 additional

wind kernel
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is there a toggle for the harvest UI buttons? I can't see any buttons, so I can't harvest or plant etc, I've tried relogging

green cove
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does level of the seed affect the chance of rolling better rolls? or just the ilvl it can affect (also is there an item level too low or only too high)

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@wind kernel try Z or re-enter the instance with ctrl+left click

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you're in an outdated instance from the sounds of it

wind kernel
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I've tried entering different instances, switching servers, etc

supple root
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Anyone here used an infused engineer’s orb yet? I know it sends qual to 30, just wondering if it’s worth or if I should sell em to people doing heavy juicing?

wind kernel
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I've also tried re-entering the original map it last worked in, as well as entering from outside of maps altogether

green cove
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ctrl+lclick the harvest thing from teleporter didnt work? other than that all I can say is try Z

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maybe log off for 15min for all your instances to fully reset

wind kernel
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yeah I'll try that

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a break might be nice, I've tried everything else... even pressing every button on my keyboard 1 by 1 lol

blazing steppe
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@wind kernel happens when you have a random mob run away

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...Which is annoying, but it sometimes happens. Hope it's fixed by now

wind kernel
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yeah I thought it might've been that, but couldn't find a mob, so ended up entering new maps and creating new instances which didn't work either

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I hope it's fixed by now, I've been logged off to let all instances reset, but I can't log in atm because my steam install is glitched and is stuck on an update for the past half hour, so I'll probably wait until tomorrow to check on it

velvet palm
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Just update to standalone templarthumbsup

celest barn
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is blisterfruit the free slam?

cobalt falcon
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What seed give cold mod

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Ive only see fire and lightning so far

sour mountain
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the blue one

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...i think

void wing
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No, yellow.

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Blue has lightning.

green cove
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nice, keywords in harvest are highlighted now

cobalt falcon
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Thx cyan, i need stole that pic!

dull pawn
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so following the pinned layout

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where do you put t2 seeds?

copper kernel
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top right corner

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also holy shit thats a convoluted setup

dull pawn
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how come I ignored the right bottom part of that image

void wing
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Wow that layout is monkaS.

copper kernel
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you can barely use a 1/3 of that

void wing
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I've been holding off upgrading till I need to and haven't even gotten a t2 setup going ._.

rocky nebula
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This is somehow worse than synthesis in terms of confusing and tedious mechanics

copper kernel
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but its not

void wing
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It isn't though?

hasty perch
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it's super cool

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like there's cheap extremely strong crafts

copper kernel
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schematics can be convoluted but theyre very unnecessary

void wing
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Most of your farming is t1, which is super simple garden setup.

hasty perch
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like the T2 craft changing the elemental resist type is so good

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you just craft your best bench craft res and the seed gives you a real one for free

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targeted exalt with same tier

rocky nebula
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I just feel like doing homework and research for a game defeats the whole purpose.

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That's why I loved 3.10

hasty perch
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well that's PoE man

rocky nebula
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just go ham and get shit

hasty perch
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it's always been extremely strong to have knowledge in PoE

void wing
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Crafting in PoE has always been pretty involved and given the item system I don't think there if a way around that.

hasty perch
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delirium was a braindead league compared to usual leagues

void wing
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People complaining about garden setup are just being silly though.

hasty perch
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betrayal was a good example

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insane money if you did it right

rocky nebula
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Betrayal was good, yes

void wing
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Betrayal still is insane money if you do it right templarLul

rocky nebula
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cuz there was something fun alongside the knowledge

hasty perch
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i wish , but I have a HDD

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so no betrayal for me

void wing
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?

hasty perch
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GGG just doesn't seem to care that if you have no SSD betrayal is just..

void wing
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Which part is so bad?

hasty perch
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woops intervention encounter 5 seconds freeze

void wing
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Huh.

hasty perch
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everything else is fine

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but intervention just freezes

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and since they're dangerous if you're in a T16 and you're not playing a jugg

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GL

rocky nebula
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I remember the Catarina encounter bugs in maps

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that shit was funny as hell

hasty perch
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delirium is kinda shit performance wise too

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sadly

rocky nebula
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In simulacrum, yeah

hasty perch
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the other events are fine

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like RN i click delirium portal and if reward type isn't a good one i instant skip

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cba playing a map with 10fps for an armor drop

wintry lynx
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@hasty perch It's time to buy an ssd. It's required to play most games soon. We're soon gonna need a fast ssd like we need a fast graphics card. In a few years.

hasty perch
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I hope they fix their game a bit for PoE 2 , I don't get how just loading town in PoE takes 5 times the ressources it takes to play witcher 3 in high def

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only PoE "requires" an ssd

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like there's an issue somewhere

void wing
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Yea most games do not need a ssd.

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My performance/smoothness has been significantly better with Vulkan.

hasty perch
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it's better too for me

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but delirium still eats my fps

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and intervention is still broken

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fun thing is intervention was smooth as f in betrayal league

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they just broke something

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and didn't bother fixing it

rigid stream
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Honestly, they should Just enforce SSD at this point

hasty perch
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that's silly

rigid stream
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Even back then when the Game came Out they ecisted and werent that expensive

hasty perch
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a F2P game enforcing a SSD makes no sense business wise

rigid stream
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It does, it saves a Lot of hassle optimising for HDD

hasty perch
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but being a F2P is to have a bigger target market

void wing
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It shouldn't need a ssd to begin with though...

hasty perch
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so it would make no sense

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like fortnite enforcing an ID check and being above 15

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that would make no sense

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and would hurt their playerbase

rigid stream
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Beeing f2p and having at least a Minimum hardware requirement arent mutually exclusive

void wing
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Although if possible you should get a cheapo ssd, they're fairly cheap now and even a basic one does the job.

hasty perch
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an SSD isn't the least minimum

rigid stream
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An SSD costs 20 bucks

hasty perch
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you're like expecting everyone to live in your country?

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i'm in senegal right now and it's pretty obnoxious getting a SSD here

rigid stream
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Is Amazon not that stocked over there?

hasty perch
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a lot just don't deliver here

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and there's other issues about delivery i'd rather be able to get them in a shop myself

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because yeah they have ... interesting way to deliver here

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still not used to not having a damn number and road name

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which seems pretty damn weird when you first arrive

rigid stream
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Thats a bit rough, yea

vast glen
midnight phoenix
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We know exactly what the change with betrayal interventions was btw

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And why it causes stuttering if u have slow loading

violet nymph
void wing
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@midnight phoenix You can't tease info like that and not explain it templar1

midnight phoenix
bitter ledge
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Hey guys, would a theorectical setup like this work with regards for farming?

limber spire
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can that fit anywhere on the garden?

velvet palm
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That seems scuffed

bitter ledge
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No, it's just for a theoretical setup. Will the dispersers take from the storage tanks, despite the fact that they aren't directly connected with pylons?

limber spire
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yes

cobalt falcon
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Disperser better on outer

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Since it can spray next plot

bitter ledge
cobalt falcon
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If it connected, whetever its by pylon or storage or collector, its connected

violet nymph
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That feels like a minefield...

wispy crest
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Hey guys, does anyone know if Harvest crafts obey meta-mods ?

rigid stream
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Yes they do

lucid haven
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Is the garden account or character bound and will my next character at lv 1 auto plant lv 70 seeds from my stockpike?

midnight phoenix
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its account bound

hazy vault
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lmao yeah you can auto plant some big boys

lucid haven
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lmao good to know. ill put em in the tab while leveling. ty guys

deft torrent
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i seem be having a hard time geting wild seeds

rigid stream
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They all have the same droprate regarding flavor

deft torrent
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i tried going back to act 1 see if i could get some more but i don't see them

void wing
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League mechanics get disabled once you're past a level threshold.

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You need a low level character to farm low level areas.

deft torrent
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i see

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thank you

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that was very helpful thank you

tepid ermine
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whats the name of the T4 Seeds?

lone shale
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anyone can confirm if harvest crafts ignore cannot be removed crafts?

rigid stream
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No, you cant Put l full collectors into the seed cache

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None of them

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You can however Just Put them into your stash

river ridge
rigid stream
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marauderthinking looks decent

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cant see any obvious errors

earnest salmon
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Exactly how long does a growth cycle last?

copper kernel
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each time you click a seed pod

earnest salmon
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Oh...

rigid stream
lime ferry
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If my seed spawns a monster that has a lower level than the ilvl of the piece of gear I want to craft can I still use it ?

rigid stream
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+10 leeway

lime ferry
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so a 70 seed can work on a 79 helmet?

unique jay
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How do you spawn the bosses exactly? Cant find any info on it

rigid stream
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You get T4 seeds, those Spawn Bosses

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They drop from T3 seeds

unique jay
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Ah gotcha ty

rigid stream
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no

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unneccesary

frail bluff
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u got better one?

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simple

rigid stream
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get the one morthem posted earlier and a bunch of T1 plots

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Even if you spam quarry like a madman, like srsly mad, you wont ever need that big setup. you wont have enough T2s let alone T3s to fill that up

frail bluff
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alright ty

copper kernel
copper kernel
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fuck that convoluted mess

void wing
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Bless.

copper kernel
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added a small note for t4s

normal kraken
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that same version but with all the t1 plots on the lower right corner is better, imo

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you don't have to tour your whole garden for a quick check

void wing
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@river ridge That is very nice, I was about to dabble in something similar but this will help. Will end up modifying it a bit to my taste.

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The specifics of where you put your t1 plots really isn't a big deal...

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Also the whole thing is a lot simpler than some people are making it out to be, moving sections around is incredibly easy.

subtle wagon
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why did you erase pylons on that image

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the people that don't have it clear, colu not be able to replicate it

rigid stream
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also again, that setup is bad, because it only has 20 instead of 24 higher Tier seeds, meanign you lose IIQ and Lifeforce

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cause you dont get a full harvest

subtle wagon
rigid stream
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same issue

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only 20 instead of 24

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Thats much, much more important than filling out 99.9% of your garden

subtle wagon
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higher tier= T3+ ?

rigid stream
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T2+

subtle wagon
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T2 included

rigid stream
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Also that full setup has 0 horticrafts

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yes

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You want as many horticrafts as you can fit

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they are so op

subtle wagon
rigid stream
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with 2 alone you can guarantee 6 Offcolor Sockets on any item of your choice

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also 20 isntead of 24

copper kernel
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isnt this the same as the pinned with extra storage

subtle wagon
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could be, yes

copper kernel
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pylons arent shown because they dont really matter

subtle wagon
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do you have a setup with 24 @rigid stream ?

rigid stream
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that setup pretty much lets you grow any T2 with just a simple reqire and replace of the collector

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for T3 you have to place 4 additional dispensers, but thats not an issue

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there is enough room

copper kernel
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does it really matter

rigid stream
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yes

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it does

copper kernel
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in what meaningful way

rigid stream
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you lose IIQ and Lifeforce per Harvest and get less out of your rare seeds

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there is a bonus for each seed after 8 you harvest, up to the max of 24

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and you get less Higher Tier seeds as a result

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meaning, if you do 30 harvest of 8, you get much less than doing 10 harvests of 24

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even though you used the same ammount of seeds

copper kernel
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did ggg post this anywhere

rigid stream
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The collector tells you that

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its on the harvest button

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Also it was during the talk with chris and Ziggy and afaik also in the main trailer and also on the main page

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And on pretty much every media outlet^^

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Its basically like the Metamorph organ bar

copper kernel
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fair enough

subtle wagon
rigid stream
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yea should work, but keep in mind you need to fill the corners with appropriate seeds

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that you cant collect

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cause otherwise the corner seed wont grow

subtle wagon
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so the corners would be T1

rigid stream
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for a t2 yes

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and for a t3 it would be T2

subtle wagon
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but if you want to grow a T3 in the centre and you plant T2 on the corner, would the corner seed grow? don't they need 4 seeds?

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they'd only have 3

rigid stream
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as far as i know, the supporting seeds dont have to be able to grow

subtle wagon
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oh so i'd only have them as supports

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ok

rigid stream
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so the T3 in the corner has 4 adjacent, 3 inside 1 outside

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and the outside thing is whatever, but you can place T1 seeds around it if you want it grown

subtle wagon
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by "1 outside" you mean i should have a harvester next to that setup, plant a seed on the ground, remove the harvester and keep the seed on the ground?

rigid stream
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you can place seeds without a harvester^^

subtle wagon
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😮

rigid stream
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you can litter your entire garden with seeds if thats what you want, lel

velvet palm
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so what's the deal with the crafting thing?

modest plank
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been wondering how they came out with the "Horticrafting" name.
is that a joke for "Hold the Crafting"....?

subtle wagon
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horti- in latin comes from "orchard/garden"

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it may be from that

copper kernel
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gardencrafting 5Head

subtle wagon
rocky mulch
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what map Tier do i need to do to to harvest ilvl 85 seeds ?

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i mean for their growth cycles

void wing
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Yea, horticulture is a pretty normal English word.

frail bluff
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75+ maps work @rocky mulch

rocky mulch
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@frail bluff they arent growing for me with monster lvl 78

echo mist
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anyone experience a bug where you can plant any seeds when its in your nventory, automatic thingy, but if you dont have any seeds it either doesnt choose any seed or random ones? its quite frustrating when the seed storage doesnt work

rigid stream
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it doest autoplant seeds that are too far apart in itemlvl when they are in your seed cache

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meaning, if you have lvl 80 seeds out, it wont plant dinky lvl 60 seeds cause that would be bad

weary vortex
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What is the maximum ilevel of T1 seeds that can drop?

vivid crag
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man quarry makes this league mechanic almost bearable

mortal python
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if I connect Collector, Pylon and Storage in following way:
C-P-S-P-S
will the collector be able to push lifeforce in one, or two storages?
basically can the storage in the middle act as a jump station, without having to connect pylons directly?

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awesome, thanks! that will simplify my target layout a little

subtle wagon
torpid sonnet
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Seperate fields for T2/3/4 is pretty unnecessary

subtle wagon
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what would you change

void wing
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Agreed, seems pretty unnecessary, but then again maybe you're a super juicer who plans on buying and sustaining all of this 🤷‍♂️

subtle wagon
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what would you change
?

torpid sonnet
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The layout in the pins is probably fine for most people

void wing
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Personally I think I'll be fine with 3xT1s for each, 1xT2/3 for each and 1 swappable T4.

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So thats what I'm doing.

torpid sonnet
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but really theres no need to plan this stuff out, just slap down some harvesters and stuff

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the grove has more than enough space

balmy hound
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you only need like 3 life force t1 fields of each color and a single field of each color for higher tier seeds, i build 3x1 t1 3x1 t2/3 and 3x1 4s and literally dont fill 75% of my fields

void wing
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I don't like the t2/3 plots in the pins, it doesn't do 24 seeds at once.

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Which you kinda wanna for the increased life force modifier for a bigger harvest.

balmy hound
subtle wagon
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so the same as mine but removing the T3s

balmy hound
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yea you use the same field for 2s and 3s

subtle wagon
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would i need to change the outside seeds of the corners?

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from T1 to T2 if i'm planting T3?

balmy hound
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you can put them in any configuration it literally doesnt matter where you put things

void wing
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T2 works for t2 and t3.

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So just plop down a t2.

subtle wagon
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sounds good, thanks

balmy hound
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yup

subtle wagon
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i'll go with yours then

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could you link the other pylon configurations so i don't have to spend more than i should building it, please?

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the conections

balmy hound
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as par as the other colors?

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far*

subtle wagon
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yes, please

balmy hound
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i didnt really go that far with it but i can real fast

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im not sure how legible it will be but let me try

subtle wagon
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don't worry, thanks anyways

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if you don't have it already

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i know how to work the tanks

balmy hound
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hopefully you can tell how that is, connections are hard to show

subtle wagon
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looks good, thanks a lot

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i feel like a lot of the conections are like:
Pylon connects with 3 things, and then a fourth thing that is shared with another pylon

balmy hound
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the low lighted yellow and purple squares kinda show the pathing which isnt super critical as long as every yellow object as at least one connection to the circuit somewhere

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so if it connects to 3 things then a shared pylon kinda think of that as an electrical power source, using a pylon between the 3 allows you room for expansion later, youll notice some pylons arent neccesary to complete the circuit but if you want to add horticulture stations or more storage youll need the additional connections

hasty perch
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i'm loving the mecanic more and more tbh

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there's so many really targeted things you can do

balmy hound
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its kinda interesting if you get really 5 head about it too

jagged surge
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when i reach 50 craftingstaions then it might get interesting

hasty perch
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like I started the league late due to bad internet and i'm running with 130% all res on garbo gear because my rings are both 110%+ resists mainly made with benchcrafting res harvest

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the T2 seed swapping the ele res is so damn insane

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it's basically ok bro add a 35% res you want as targeted exalt on every harvest

balmy hound
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the really good crafts are pretty rare though so you have a lot of excess crafts or life force but its kinda cool to just keep a stash full of good bases and hit some decent gear to sell using a few crafts

hasty perch
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yeah augments are really really rare

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but with the remove add , and ele swap it's not that rare

jagged surge
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after planting 10k seeds i got 1 augment caster craft

hasty perch
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augments get like no drop rate in maps yep

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but that's kinda fine imo

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if they were too common it would be absurd

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augmenting a caster mod is easily worth several exalts

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in endgame crafting

jagged surge
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its basically a targeted exalt

hasty perch
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yeah

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and considering how hard it is to annul the brick you exalted

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it's just so damn good

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crit and speed augments are nuts too

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for boots and tailwind elusive

jagged surge
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i just feel you need loads of horticrafts to make it worth

hasty perch
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yeah , as I'm late on the league (well late is a big word we're week 1 and i missed 2-3 days)

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i'm trying to get to T16s to get better life force out of seeds

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and make some horticraft stations

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but damn do T1/T2 seed help with gearing

jagged surge
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just run quarry over and over and you get 2 craft stations per 20t2

hasty perch
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idk feels boring

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i'd rather get higher tier seeds and progress my atlas at the same time

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especially now that my char got a bit of a gear upgrade it progresses quite well

jagged surge
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well the worth of the map seeds is just bad compared to lvl 65 seeds

hasty perch
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i ran quarry to have the full garden setup tho

rigid stream
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Its Not

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86 seeds are much, much better than 65 seeds

hasty perch
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they give a lot more life force

rigid stream
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Especially with the Double seed and enough mapquant

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You are gonna end Up with 70k lifeforce

hasty perch
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and It would really surprise me if mods were not also weighted by ilvl

rigid stream
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They are

hasty perch
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it seems logical for GGG to do that

fathom gale
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They are definitely weighted by Ilvlw

jagged surge
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who cares if they give mroe lifeforce when i can do quarry in 10sec, collect 1k seeds and hour and get way mroe t2 that then turn into way more t3 and then turn into way more t4

hasty perch
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yeah , seems fair to avoid people farming quary to get free exalts

fathom gale
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Low level t4s that you can’t use on really nice things

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That also doesn’t progress your atlas or get you anything else

hasty perch
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no , that's not what i meant by weighted

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that's the level range to use on items

jagged surge
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you only need ilvl 75, which happens to most good mods be at

fathom gale
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Am taking to Maximus

rigid stream
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Also you cant grow the Heart of the grove with quarry seeds

hasty perch
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oh ok

fathom gale
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Quarry seed are not 75 though

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Priblem

rigid stream
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Its good enough to get Basic Gear, thats it

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For anything really good, do maps

hasty perch
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all in all after delirium which was extremely intrusive I'm happy about the change of pace

jagged surge
#

i made 20ex by running quarry, i havent made 20 ex by running red maps

fathom gale
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I have

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Are you doing it right

jagged surge
#

i mean, i made 20ex by runnign quarry in lets say 10hours, i havent made 20ex by runnign red maps in 10hours

balmy hound
#

path of math has a video out he made 50 ex in one day rushing red maps , its doable for sure

jagged surge
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the rush is over

fathom gale
#

I can make that much with decent maps, and it’s not as boring as wuarry

jagged surge
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it was over 10hours into the league

fathom gale
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And I get to progress atlas and do bosses

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And get no zero experience

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Nonzero

jagged surge
#

seed drops in maps just feels useless, they need to up it by 3x

balmy hound
#

it could definitely use a little boost, in quantity at bare minimum to let us force harvest higher tiers quicker

void wing
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I get like 5-10 seeds per map.

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Assuming an avg of 7 and most seeds taking 3-4 cycles to grow, thats 21-28 seeds per set.

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Which is enough for another set. The problem ofcourse is that it's divided between 3 types.

unreal wadi
#

why can't I use the lifeforce in my storage tank to make another storage tank

balmy hound
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strored life force becomes condensed, it can only be used out of dispersers not in crafting stations or collectors

unreal wadi
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ah

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so how can I make another storage tank

balmy hound
#

stockpile seeds or get to higher level areas for higher level seeds they give more life foce, doing a combination of the 2 will grant you a ton of life force per harvest

unreal wadi
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isn't the max I can get 55 lifeforce?

hasty perch
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no

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the bar on the top is the max of this harvest you're doing

unreal wadi
#

so how do I get 75 lifeforce

jagged surge
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plant more seeds

balmy hound
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like i said stockpile higher level seeds, then plant them all at once and harvest them all at once, add up the life force of each seed before you plant it, that will be your outcome at full harvest

unreal wadi
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thanks

violet nymph
#

It seems like the instant you finish act 4 you stop getting good craft options

radiant lance
#

i mean i crafted a 400 pdps axe and a 6 link chest in like act 10, so i dont think its that dramatic ;p

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but there is a drop off between acts and maps i think

violet nymph
#

Getting "remove a non-physical mod and add a physical mod" is ridiculously hard after a certain point

radiant lance
#

i do think they should switch up the chances of certain mods in maps

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cause the whole excitement of the league is these craftsd

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so making them inaccessible isnt fun

violet nymph
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Harvest crafts don't ruin the game as chris says, they make leveling bearable and barely change mapping lol

radiant lance
#

yeah and i think thats a problem... cause you have this period in maps where harvest is basically irrelevant

dapper patrol
#

does anyone else have bugged plants that wont grow?

violet nymph
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They arent bugged

radiant lance
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cause you have your base gear and your big boi crafting isnt until later cause you need bases ;p

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so you just twiddle your thumbs for ten years

violet nymph
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You're not running high enough content

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If you're running stuff too below your seeds they don't grow

wet plaza
#

@radiant lance 6l chest and 400pdps sound like outliers tho

radiant lance
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probablyu

wet plaza
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i had two 5ls and no target exalts during my time in harvest

radiant lance
#

i was super surprised to see a 6 link craft before maps

dapper patrol
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so if they r levl 78 i have to run 78 level map @violet nymph

violet nymph
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Or higher

balmy hound
#

still waiting on my 6 L lol

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level 86 now fml

radiant lance
#

if it makes you feel better.. its on a trash astral plate

obsidian marlin
#

Some gear should be cheap in trade leagues right

radiant lance
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cause thats the base i had

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;p

wet plaza
#

astral sounds pretty good

radiant lance
#

and i rerolled since then

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so its actually useless

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and sitting in my stash

violet nymph
#

I'll be really disappointed if they don't keep some form of early-level crafting in poe after harvest. If they don't, literally no reason to start anything but spells

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Or CA TR

wet plaza
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bet they're redoing crafting systems

radiant lance
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harvest has taught me, crafting early is fun when you have actual deterministic options

violet nymph
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Yeah

balmy hound
#

this leauge is a test for these crafting options basically, to see how it impacts the game play, economy etc

radiant lance
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so if they figure out a way to provide a similar experience moving forward i will be happy

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i think its good for the game

wet plaza
#

i was not really hype when levelling minions

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most stuff was pretty meh

violet nymph
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I started slams and was giddy about getting high pdps weapons for the level

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That was probably the most fun time through acts i ever had

radiant lance
#

i also think this is really good for introducing people to crafting

wet plaza
#

i just wish the league in itself was more appealing

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just the crafting doesnt keep me

radiant lance
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cause there is zero chance you can convince people to spend their 'currency' on crafting 9 times out of 10... but its way easier to encourage someone to craft with a menu option

violet nymph
#

A league mechanic making acts bearable is unprecedented for me

jagged surge
#

the idea is good but the implementation is bad, they should have done a balance craft vs kill rewards, like put powerful mosnters at the cache or something that has increased drops or special drops, instead of just having 100% focus on craft

violet nymph
#

The idea of making new builds is actually like

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cool

wet plaza
#

which idea of making new builds

violet nymph
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Usually i only make 1 or 2 per league because i fucking hate acts

vast gazelle
#

they dont want to provide a deterministic crafting on the high end because doing so means that crafters either make their best gear get bored and quit quickly, or just print money

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even more than they already do

violet nymph
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They're printing money now with the unlimited 100% currency beyond delirium maps lol

#

Anyway i think maps should still have some amount of good crafting available

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And it scales off super hard between like t10 and t16

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Or something

velvet palm
#

but what does the harvest crafting station thingie do

limber spire
#

stores up to 3 crafts

half shell
#

how do people go about selling garden crafts?

#

collateral or something? 3rd party service?

vast gazelle
#

generally by any other hard to trade craft or service: usually offering to stream it or collateral (or both)

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in the past ive discord streamed for people buying double corrupts, that sort of thing

half shell
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hmm

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is a 'augment lucky lightning mod' worth trying to sell you think? or just scrap it (lvl 83)

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dunno any lightning builds this season

vast gazelle
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i think so

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id advertise in the poe trade server

half shell
#

is there a link to that somewgere?

vast gazelle
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looks like people selling it for 40c-1ex

half shell
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thank you

vast gazelle
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^^

final dagger
#

Do we know whether or not seed level affects the chances of getting better/worse crafts?

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Like would it be easier to get rarer craft options with lvl 83 seeds as opposed to lvl 65 seeds?

vast gazelle
#

we know theres something of an inverse effect for leveling vs mapping levels

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other than that im not aware of any

vivid crag
#

There a cap on how many seeds you can mature at once? half my t1 seeds wont advance now

rigid stream
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You are running too Low lvl zones

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And yes seed lvl dictates what you can get, really Low lvl and really high lvl gives better results on average

final dagger
#

ok good looks like im putting off this craft til I get to t15s LMAO

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gone through like 3k seeds

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and nothing I want yet

vivid crag
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im lvl 65 spamming quarry the rest are advancing fine

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ive taken some out and replanted a few collectors see if it fixes

vast gazelle
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guess my best way to get into craft is gonna be to just rush high tier maps

vivid crag
#

quarry farming for seeds lets you craft upto i75 bases

rigid stream
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Yea but it cant Spawn lucky exalts, Nor the good T3 seeds

vivid crag
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easy to spam rare a lot of maps free too tho

rigid stream
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T1 maps

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Which are kinda free anyway

vivid crag
#

its letting me use the rare recipes on any tier map

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lol

rigid stream
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Oh, yes, that works

coral needle
raw locust
#

So, harvest encounters VI seems to be broken. I didn't see it on the known bugs thread. Anyone able to confirm/deny this?

rigid stream
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Which one is 6

raw locust
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Just did both the essences and currency ones, and neither updated the count

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Change currency for alternate currency, change fossils/essences/orbs/oils/catas for an alternate stack

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Infused zana mods part seems to be working fine

frigid jasper
#

can someone tell me what do i have to do here to change my unique?

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or what does unique piece means? isnt it the normal unique items?

vast gazelle
#

so

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harbinger uniques drop in pieces

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thne you arrange them in inventory

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to make them assemble

raw locust
#

yeah, just confirmed again, exchanges are not counting toward harvest encounters 6.

shut ermine
#

Remove a random Fire modifier from an item and add a new Fire modifier. will it change the tier of resistance?

rigid stream
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It can

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But it might Just add the Same Tier or a lower Tier

shut ermine
#

great to know. ty

eternal laurel
#

how do i get a crafting option saved in my horticulture thang?

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nvm got it

normal pollen
#

anyone tried out the Spectres out of garden ?

rigid stream
#

Not yet, but some of the primal ones Seem promising, they have a worb Type projectile thing

normal pollen
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the vivid shoot a charged projectiled

stone marten
#

What happens to all the condensed lifeforce and why can’t I use it from the storage tank?

rigid stream
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You composted it

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Its now fertiliser

final dagger
#

What's needed to get the 1800 lifeforce to craft a horticulture station? Will T1 lvl 83 seeds work? T2?

steep epoch
#

Hi ! Has there been any issues with dispersers ? I set them on auto but still have to click on the icon to "use" them. When I map, I come back 3-4 maps later, my t2/t3 seeds are glowing red and I have to reuse the dispersers manually even though I have enough lifeforce 😦

rigid stream
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you need t2 seeds for the horticrafts

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and they auto disperse

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they just glow red cause they like doing that

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if they are set up correctly and you have lifeforce, they just do their stuff

vivid crag
#

Anyone know why the last little dregs of energy dont transfer out my collector when i condense? There's plenty space in my tanks

steep epoch
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seeds glowing red is very confusing though, when I click the disperser, they stop glowing xD

rigid stream
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your collector cant be emptied after it has some lifeforce unless you use it to fertilise

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They auto disperse on growth tick

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they arent fertilised before they tick so they glow^^ but it just works, so dont worry about it and keep in check if you have enough lifeforce

steep epoch
#

ok, thanks ! still confusing 😛

vivid crag
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Oh so i needa collect the collector to a disperser rip

rigid stream
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no

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the collector will keep the lifeforce untill used

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but any additonal lifeforce you get goes into the storage

vivid crag
#

So how do i use up the condensed energy stuck in the collector

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Annoying me cause they wont stack lul

rigid stream
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empty it out by perfectly dispersing something. But thats a hassle, just let it stay on the ground^^

lone shale
#

does quantity affect seed drops when u click on the cache?

rigid stream
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gear quantity? no

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map quantity, probably

vivid crag
#

Map quantity does thats why they are juicing up maps and opening full gardens

spice cipher
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the cache isnt affected by quant

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from what ive seen and read

torpid sonnet
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no, they dont even have to be growing

violet nymph
#

lol a guildie gave me a pile of vaals for spare maps and i got the colors right in 3 attempts

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yay now i have functional body armor that's not a tabula rasa

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last noob gear to replace is the goldrim

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woo exalt drop

carmine kayak
#

Does the level of a harvest craft determine the mods it can hit? e.g. does a lv65 craft that adds a modifier only add mods up to that level, even if I use it on an ilvl75 item?

vapid sequoia
#

Does the level of a harvest craft determine the mods it can hit? e.g. does a lv65 craft that adds a modifier only add mods up to that level, even if I use it on an ilvl75 item?
@carmine kayak seems so afaik

carmine kayak
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ah so even though I can use 65 crafts on a 75, if I want corrosive elements on a jewel I need 75 seeds

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thats an ouch

pliant stream
#

hey, how do you get the crafting bench? my mate stored enough lifeforce to afford it, but he never gets the option to craft one

civic mauve
#

Does delirium pause while in the grove?

pliant stream
#

yes

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it should

carmine kayak
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you cant spend condensed lifeforce on that stuff

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have to get a single bunch of seeds that produces over 1800 uncondensed

pliant stream
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he has stored 1800 of one seperate lifeforce

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but he never gets the option

carmine kayak
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yeah stored doesnt work

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has to be 1800 from seeds you freshly harvested

pliant stream
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ohh

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ye ty

final dagger
#

Why the hell are my T2 seeds not getting the lifeforce that's being sprayed over them

rigid stream
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visual bug, just keep mapping

final dagger
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ok ty

vast berry
#

does anyone know if devastator worked with saviour/ works with general's cry

vast berry
#

if you had frenzy charges when you summoned saviour, would it get the damage and AS bonus even though it didnt have the charges itself

violet nymph
#

What am I even storing life force for?

frosty aurora
#

for sprinklers

sour widget
#

is anyone good at farm wiring ?

tired kiln
#

can anyone confirm that quarry farm can generate t4 seeds eventually

sour widget
#

ive just completed the 99.5 farm and im having problems with the wild lifeforce not reaching dispersers

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for t2 seeds theres a storage pot right next to the disperser that needs to sprinkle on the seeds and its full of life force

spring plover
balmy hound
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yea they pumped it up pretty decently, i got a few 20 seed caches now

tawdry shell
#

how do you search for specific harvest crafts on the official trade site?

vast gazelle
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seed name

sour mountain
#

34 seeds from one cache?

#

what map is this blindow?

sinful oxide
#

hows the seed sustain now?

#

is it easy to sustain three plots each of T1 seeds?

lucid reef
#

when you try to kill the mobs for the tier 2 and 3 seeds. when you die...can you go back and continue killing them? everytime it die...it will let me back into my grove. but all my seeds will be gone.

sage dew
#

Hey guys question how do you unlock the crafting station for harvest?

lucid reef
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you have to harvest enough lifeforce to craft it

sage dew
#

ya i have 9 full stations filled

lucid reef
#

nah nah

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you have to produce it all at once...once its in the tanks. the only thing you can do it spread it to your seeds.

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so

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1 field has to produce 1600 or how ever much it costs. so 1 field of tier 2s should produce enough to make it

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make sence?

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sense

sage dew
#

ya thank you

lucid reef
#

cool

small wigeon
#

how are the seed drops after the patch? I still didn't have time to test and am curious

violet nymph
#

holy shit

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the cluster jewel change

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is fucking amazing

spice hazel
#

I have some T1 blue seeds in my stockpike, but my harvester isn't auto planting them. What did I do wrong?

next epoch
#

They're probably too low level. You can still plant them manually

spice hazel
#

Ah, ok. thanks!

violet nymph
#

WHOMST PING

vivid folio
#

does anyone have a good layout that also include the crafting store stations? I see some that have full garden with stuff but no station to store crafts?

sacred quarry
#

how to spawn the ultimate harvest boss?

mystic cobalt
#

Dude wtf

#

I'm getting one shot by this blue mob

#

"Of Prey., Has powerful crits"

#

and it's jkust ending me

copper kernel
#

well bois with the new buffed seed amounts

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youll need more than 3 t1 patches

#

ive gotten more than 1 patch worth of seeds from a pod

sour mountain
#

ya'll having really jacked seed spawn rates? i i think i have 3 patches t1, 1 patch t2, 1 patch t3/t4

void wing
#

How much are you getting from a single map and what tier?

#

I saw one image of 30 seeds but I didn't catch the tier.

#

The 9 storage tanks on most layouts felt not enough to me already. That's what I want to upgrade.

eager terrace
#

I have way more than 9 per color now

copper kernel
#

ive gotten several times 30 seeds from t14-16s

void wing
#

30 seeds per map would average to 10 seeds of each type and assuming 3-4 growth cycles of t1 seeds that would mean 1-2 plots worth of seeds every set?

#

Unless by several times 30 you mean you got 100+ seeds from a single map marauderthinking

copper kernel
#

no lul, ive had several maps drop ~30

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is usually around 16-30

void wing
#

So 3 T1s is enough?

copper kernel
#

i personally went with 4 now

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cause if you get a streak of the same color seeds

#

you cant plant them all

magic tendon
#

Are you able to 6L harvest craft a unique?

jovial yew
#

anyone selling t1 seeds?

nimble raven
#

Anyone else having an issues where certain seeds are not growing? They T1 seeds I auto planted and are in the proper grow areas I have used before. I just reset my client have having a full square of them and few around the center of another not grow after a few cycles.

versed dock
#

How does the 'Set a new implicit modifier on a X jewel" function? Since usually jewels don't have any implicit (without being a corrupted one, that is)

copper kernel
#

there are new jewel implicits added this patch

versed dock
#

Ah, are those listed somewhere? Can't seem to find them on poedb (or I'm just being blind)

copper kernel
#

they were but in some different page

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ill see if i have my tab open

eager terrace
#

@nimble raven are you running maps too low to grow those seeds

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it's either that or they aren't getting some particular color of life force needed for the next cycle

#

but if they're T1s I guess it must be the level of the region

nimble raven
#

Thanks that is it

#

Trying to clean up my atlas

junior skiff
#

where do you get more disperser?

eager terrace
#

craft 'em with life force from any harvest

#

they'll be at the bottom of the craft menu

junior skiff
#

oh ok, i must missed it thx

eager terrace
#

uh that is odd

#

have you planted any T2 seeds?

junior skiff
#

yeah, but i thought need disperser?

#

for t2 seed?

eager terrace
#

yeah I just figured ohsabi may have a quest step

#

to only give you dispersers once you start trying to plant T2

junior skiff
#

yeah i have one, just wondering where can i get more?

eager terrace
#

maybe you can only craft them after you grow your first T2

#

I don't remember to be honest

#

like at some point they are on that craft menu between pylons and storage tanks

rigid stream
#

You have to place one and grow the seed

#

Then it unlocks

void wing
#

I didn't need to grow a T2 to get my craft unlocked. I did place one and did have a T2 in my seed stash though.

echo mist
#

hey guys, whats the intervall for auto planting seeds? like if 5 level under my level or?

rigid stream
#

If you have them in your inventory it will place all afaik

echo mist
#

yeah i know, but sometimes you just wanna autoplant stuff

crystal apex
#

i think so

odd cloud
#

I'm having problem setting up my garden, like half my seed don't get lifeforce from the disperser somehow?

#

the seed on the upper side get the lifeforce while the one down doesn't

next sapphire
#

can someone help me with gardening?
i choose to remove life mod and add life mod option and "#% increased elemental damage with attacks" got removed and changed with life flask recovery rate. am i missing something?
on poedb WED is clearly not a life mod...

rigid stream
#

it was probably remove a non life mod and add a life mod

#

what you used

next sapphire
#

oh it explains a lot

#

lol

rigid stream
#

ele dmg with attacks absolutly isnt alife mod^^

next sapphire
#

and i see no more remove options on lvl65 seed. Is it latest patch?

rigid stream
#

they exist

rancid ember
#

ive yet to invest much time into harvest, is the 8 dispenser set up used for tier 2 plants viable for tier 3 aswell?

next sapphire
#

ty

sinful oxide
jagged surge
#

No

#

Its monster lvl+10

sinful oxide
#

dam

rancid ember
#

anyway to fast plant t2 seeds? does having them in your inventory work?

cloud moth
#

is there a good casual layout for t4 essences ?

dusty umbra
#

today's lab so crap ; i don't get how people run this crap lol

dire swan
#

does anyone know if dispersers can act as pylons to channel energy through to storage tanks?

velvet palm
#

I don't get how people run lab in general

versed dock
#

Wait so it's impossible to harvest craft on a ilevel 100 base?

jagged surge
#

Y

#

If you dont somehow find a lvl 90 map

frigid venture
#

Scroll down

velvet palm
#

when's the cluster jewel change going live?

livid lake
#

next week most likely

ruby roost
#

guys

last axle
ruby roost
#

if i craft something from 73 ilv seed on 83 ilv item, item ilv will be lowered to 73?

proper shell
#

@ruby roost No

sonic jacinth
#

does augmenting something with harvest bench erase catalyst quality?

unkempt dome
#

is there any seed that can craft Attack speed or dot?

rigid stream
#

attackspeed yes

#

T1 vivi

unkempt dome
#

attack modifier seeds?

rigid stream
#

speed modifier

void wing
#

Attack speed has both attack and speed tags.

#

So I imagine both work.

rigid stream
#

sure, but attack can roll a bunch of junk

wide adder
#

Anyway to get into the Harvest boss Root wall encirclement?

#

it spawned it while i was away, and now the fight is bricked.

runic zephyr
#

am i seeeing it right that you need one horticraft station per color?

hoary lava
#

trying to follow the farm diagram in the pins but dont see how the t1 farms connect to the middle?

wide adder
#

flying, you can mix and match, but you can only have one color connected to a horticraft station at once

#

just disconnect it if you want to connect another color

#

once a craft is in the horticrafting station, it no longer cares about colors

crystal apex
#

@runic zephyr no you can move horticraft stations around

runic zephyr
#

yea thats what i ment... that sounds like a pain in the ass, ugh

runic zephyr
#

sending crafts to horticraft costs nothing extra right?

#

so when youre overflowing on lifeforce you should always send all the crafts to the station?

#

or can it just store a limited number of crafts?

jagged surge
#

you can only store 3 per station

runic zephyr
#

dang

tender tusk
#

just make more stations when you can

dense pier
#

@_@

jagged surge
#

wtf

dense pier
#

a taste

#

anyways, I just bricked my grove

#

spawned final boss in a map, map was too overloaded in mods, more than i thought I could handle so I lost the fight

#

boss doesnt show up now

#

nor the whole mechanic to respawn, quest still popping up, but no nothing

#

or does it start up again after X cycles of harvesting?

subtle wagon
#

do T4 seeds need all 3 fertilizers?

rigid stream
#

Yes

subtle wagon
#

thanks

charred basin
#

I think this might be a better layout for harvest. @copper kernel I see you pinned the current one. Could you take a look and update? New patch increased seed drops so I’d assume that means more storage will be needed. This also makes better use of the top right for t2+ collectors allowing up to t4 seeds to be grown.

Credit to /u/setharial on reddit for sharing it.

https://iw.gy/MaIMfe

copper kernel
#

from my experience you need more storage for sure and 1 more collector for each color

#

but i can just pin both

charred basin
#

Sounds Good to me. The one I linked there has 4 t1 fields each, crafting stations, storage and all. It should be solid.

#

Thanks dude

copper kernel
#

tbf you can just pickup full horoscope stations

#

they dont need to be placed at all time

charred basin
#

True.

#

Just thought it warranted an update since they bumped up the drop rates.

coral trellis
#

is there any way i can purge a storage tank of its essence?

charred basin
#

maybe use it to feed some t2+ seeds.

#

Probably not with the time really.

#

Hard to have to much storage.

solemn swan
#

where did all the chaos seeds go, I haven't seen any in 50 maps

charred basin
#

I know they made some changes that are effected by the monster level of the region your drops are in. I’d check out the patch notes since there’s a good chance it’s related.

solemn swan
#

the chaos crafts are mostly lvl 80+ and I am running t14-16. I am also getting 10x as many purple seeds. Does this somehow have something to do with me having a heart of the grove active for blue seeeds?

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n=25

subtle wagon
#

what's that "tribute to the goddess" thing about?

compact elm
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do all the seed types grow when you open a seed cache, or only the types that came out of the cache? trying to figure out why this T2 isn't ticking, its being watered OK

violet nymph
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all seed types

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you have to be doing content that is high enough level to tick seeds that are high level @compact elm

compact elm
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oho

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so if it spawns a lv40 monster, I need to be doing lv40 areas?

violet nymph
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around that yeah

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well no actually

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just around the level you found the seed

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as far as i know

undone marten
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can you harvest higher level mobs? Seems like my garden had one higher level seed and fucked me up

sand herald
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anyone know ?

patent sequoia
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I feel like I'm just missing something that's right in front of me, but how do I access the crafting menu from a collector in the grove?

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I got there earlier after a harvest, but I have no idea where to access it again

rigid stream
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Its a big Button on the collector?

patent sequoia
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I only have Harvest and Auto-plant

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Maybe I can only craft after I harvest or something

violet nymph
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uh yeah

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that's how it works

patent sequoia
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Ah ok, I didn't know

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Just started playing this league, so still figuring it out

violet nymph
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kill monsters, use juice to craft, condense the rest of it for fertilizing purposes

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or save crafts if you have a horticrafting station waaay later

patent sequoia
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Makes sense

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I'm just getting to putting down storage tanks and stuff

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I just thought I could craft at any time as long as I had lifeforce, but this makes sense

solemn swan
violet nymph
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it's a visual bug

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you don't actually have any in there

oblique falcon
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Is there a way to "brick" connection in the garden?

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Some of my storage tanks dont pump dispersers while everything is connected (double check that, can put a video of it)

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nvm found the missing link

rigid stream
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You cant brick your garden afaik

astral willow
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how do u put crafts into the horticulture?

vast gazelle
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once one is hooked up into the same network as the collector that has the craft, you click on the craft and there will be a button to the left of it to send it to the station

subtle wagon
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do garden crafts change the item ilvl?

slim solar
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if I want to craft around cooldown recovery speed, (which is no mod like defense or caster) I need some items with that stat, right?

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I mean like Tailwind is crit, so you can augment it with harvest

weary vortex
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What is the maximum number of horticrafting stations you could have?

slim solar
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but CRS is "nothing" because its shaper/crusader?

obsidian pelican
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Does anyone know the level requirement to craft on gear?

Like what level augment would I need for my iLv 86 piece
I have 74's but they dont work.

lone slate
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76

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seed + 10lvl

south aspen
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what does horticrafting use to apply the craft

celest barn
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why do higher tier maps never drop wild seeds honestly

weary vortex
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Are the augment crafts from T1 or T2 seeds?

lucid stone
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I really cant tell but...
Does elemental warding get any sort of bonus for numbers of curses removed?

fluid tulip
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what does horticrafting use to apply the craft
@south aspen when you store the craft it costs life force, when you use the stored craft you don’t spend any additional, it was paid for already

south aspen
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oh

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k

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so you just effectively craft the craft onto the bench

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which then lets you craft onto an item

leaden storm
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yep

lean mulch
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My T2 seeds have 1 out of 2 checkboxes complete. It still requires lifeforce from a different colored seed. However, it also says it is ready to be harvested. Is this a bug?

real elm
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are Raw Lifeforce values on seeds doubled when you harvest it?

real elm
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I wrote down/added up 1800 lifeforce in t2 seeds in order to get my first Horticraft station. popped the farm and got 3600 in lifeforce.

woeful gyro
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question, if a collector is set up to grow all T4s, will it also be able to grow T3s? I want to set up T1, T2, and T4 plots if this is the case

violet nymph
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are the mods you can get from seeds limited by the ilvl of the seed? for example, an ilvl 81 add chaos mod seed can only add up to level 81 mods?

charred basin
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@real elm not doubles exactly but you get an item quantity bonus for each seed in the collector area. Sounds like it might go up to 100% at 24 seeds assuming you had 24 in that collector area.

tall zephyr
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is there a list of all the crafting options you can get from harvest?

charred basin
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Yes

tall zephyr
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where can i find it?

charred basin
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A quick google search did it for me.

high scaffold
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uhh... is the layout on pin a good layout for ssf casual... or the extreme garden layout from reddit better? templarSad

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too many layout, cant decide cuz i dont have time to keep changing layout templarLul

lapis parcel
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For a casual player you could use only 3 collectors in a line with dispensers on the two interior edges

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This will allow you to gorrow up to t4 seeds and covers everything. Maybe go to 6 plots total. No need to do 12 collectors

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If you arent buying seeds in bulk you wont have enough seeds to support that much

high scaffold
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and do i plant t2 on those plots at top right?

molten flower
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Do i need to match the ilvl of the item with the ilvl of seeds?

arctic tendon
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You do not--Seedcrafting does have levels of leeway for items to be Seedcrafted upon, however the leeway window starts initially very small (like about 3 item levels), but then grows as you continue progressing. I believe the maximum leeway window is 10 item levels above Seedcraft level?

crystal apex
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yep

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10 levels

arctic tendon
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Sick

molten flower
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ok great ty so much

violet nymph
neat belfry
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so I just finally setup my harvest for t2+ (at lv93) - I'm pretty short on condensed lifeforce, will I catch up eventually or should I run quarry to bank some lifeforce?

gray jackal
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augment an item with new attack modifier is the exalted thing?

void wing
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Yes.

viscid oriole
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Hi all, trying to remove either stun duration, or projectile speed from this item do yall know what craft i could use?

neat belfry
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don't think you can remove stun duration, but "speed" should remove projectile speed - https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Wand check here

odd cloud
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"Reroll" craft from plants can change the tier of a suffix or it just reroll its value?

violet nymph
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has anyone confirmed if the quality enchant for weapons that gives crit is a local crit or is it global?

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if its local it's even better for CoC, but if it's global it's just straight good.

glad tusk
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i havent seen a remove or augment harvest craft in a long time, is it just rng, or does using higher ilvl seeds block some crafts from spawning?

rigid stream
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Rng

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They are rarer on highlvl seeds tho

glad tusk
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alright thanks

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are the weightings known?

rigid stream
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No

cunning blade
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how yall making currency now

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i mean vanity exalts are 200c and feel like shit to farm up to with chaos

rigid stream
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You dont. You map and are poor and craft your own Gear, screw build enabeling Uniques^^

tepid lintel
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Im still doing the chaos recipe. Havent had any ex drop and im lvl 91

rigid stream
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I dont think thats super Worth it, at 200C per ex it Takes very long

willow siren
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i just run maps and kill conqs

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good influenced bases are 40c+

tepid lintel
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Im running low tier maps and just got into reds 6 hours ago. I only do the chaos recipe to buy gear as quick as possible. If an ex dropped i wouldnt have to grind as much

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Rng is rng

quick arrow
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quick question, mate was using garden craft in a map and left for a trade - leaving his boots in the UI. He went back in his map and it's doing the can't click on anything... are the boots RIP?

cunning blade
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probably

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garden is a buggy piece of shit atm

copper kernel
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probably not tbh

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the crafting tables are super persistent

frigid venture
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does clicking seed cache in low tier maps help to grow higher itemlevel seeds?

copper kernel
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there is a limit on how low you can go

frigid venture
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is there a table listing all the possible crafts and their spawn weightages?

rigid stream
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no

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spawn weights are impossible to know

prisma eagle
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Heart of the grove. Do I just run 100 maps?

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Or can it be sped up?

frigid venture
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i was curious whether the crafts are weighted coz the overpowered "remove a random x modifier" crafts feel really rare

cunning blade
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definitely weighted lol

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and latest patch absolutely fucked the rates up and didnt even bother mentioning the nerf

jagged surge
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more seeds in high maps but they nerf rare rates meaning nothing changed lul

frigid venture
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i grew like 500 wild hellion seeds and didn't get a single remove phys craft

jagged surge
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i have grown about 300 full plots of life seeds without a single life slam or remove/replace

frigid venture
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when was the stealth nerf anyway

jagged surge
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who know, but i got 9 cold slams in 3 plots 2 days ago

cunning blade
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bruh some dude just bought

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all my white maps for 1c ea

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some new exploit found?

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or are maps really just that high demand atm

jagged surge
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kinda need more info, what maps did he buy

gloomy bay
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trying to look for ascendancy trials maybe

cunning blade
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everything, he was actually buying everything up to t10 at a 1:1c ratio

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@gloomy bay u can just ask for trials in global

gloomy bay
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ok that’s a lot more maps than I was expecting if he was buying your yellows too

cunning blade
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yea sold him like 80 whites LUL

flint falcon
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you can craft on ilvl83 bases using white maps

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they also made it so you can get the exalt and annul+ exalt slam on maps under ilvl80 @cunning blade

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since crafting can be done within ~10ilvls

cunning blade
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oo

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so they just gonna run all those maps?

frigid venture
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grab seed and exit

halcyon lily
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i planted some higher ilvl seeds (t1) and thought about running a few quarries to pop them but they're not advancing at all, what i could be doing wrong?

woeful halo
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won't grow if the zone level is too low compared to seedlevel

halcyon lily
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ugh, no fun allowed at all. thank you!

void wing
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That's... obvious basic balance.

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Imagine the meta being running coast to quickly grow your seeds.

halcyon lily
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you still need high tier maps to drop high tier seed

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and you need appropriate level items to craft with those

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it's not like you can use lvl3 seeds on ilvl86 double influenced items

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it's already balanced against running coast

vague locust
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Does the harvest add an influence to an non influenced item will reroll the modifiers of the item?

rigid stream
wet plaza
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Gz

rigid stream
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its very rare though, i think this took like... 500? seeds

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roughly

void wing
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I haven't seen a 6 socket one yet templarLul

velvet palm
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Same

jagged surge
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i did like 500 socket and link seeds yesterday and got 2 5l and 1 5socket notLikeThis

sick helm
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hi guys, is there anyway to check which mods each craft on the garden can roll? do you know any website that tells that?

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like poe db

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cuz im trying to roll "physical damage over time multi" on a lvl 80 hunter amulet but didnt get it

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so i was wondering if its even possible

woeful halo
rigid stream
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Phys and Attack Mod should Work?

jagged surge
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thats only a phys mod

sick helm
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@woeful halo how do i search on craftofexile?

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it doesn't have harvest option

jagged surge
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how much inbetween seed lvl and map lvl to make seeds grown?

autumn snow
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@sick helm you have to select the crafting method first

jagged surge
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seems there is no harvest chaos option tho

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or maybe nvm

pulsar juniper
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Maybe I'm not understanding things correctly here, but I'm following some excel diagram for setting up an efficient farm... each pylon can have 4 connectors... so how do the storage tanks get extra connections?

charred basin
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Connect each row of storage to the Pylon on its right. Connect the S that is next to the P to the P that is in the row below it as well.

pulsar juniper
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so then i'm not wrong in the second picture?

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P -> 3 s then all 3 to the right P

charred basin
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You’re missing two connections

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Top row S on the right to middle row P on the right and middle row S on the right to Bottom row P on the right

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That leaves the left side P and the top row P for your connections to things

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Your way actually does work if you don’t plan to add any more storage though

pulsar juniper
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okay, so, expanding to a second field and keeping what you said in mind... i came up with this

rigid stream
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looks jank, do this instead

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much easier, much cleaner, easier to expand

pulsar juniper
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so that's double pylons on either side?

rigid stream
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on one side

charred basin
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What you put there will work @pulsar juniper

rigid stream
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one main line of pylons with one pylon in front

charred basin
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I can’t make out what’s in tunbarts picture on my phone

rigid stream
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the front pylon has 1 connection to the main line and then 3 to storage tanks

pulsar juniper
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okay, so they're just connected in series instead of interwoven

charred basin
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That would def Look cleaner

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Uses a lot more pylons by the looks of it though

rigid stream
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yes

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pylons are cheap though

charred basin
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True

rigid stream
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and you rarely will need more than 30 tanks or so

tight walrus
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Hi, anyone know how to summon oshabi boss?

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I currenly have a tier 4 seed and I don't know should I use it or sell it

magic tendon
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use the t4

void wing
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You can expand the 3storage1pylon setup without needing any extra pylons.

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You only need 1 pylon to connect to your entire storage bank.

latent jacinth
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i only lose the lifeforce if i dont use the crafts right?

jagged surge
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any lifeforce not used or condensed is lost

latent jacinth
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so i keep the crafts?