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frigid jasper Jun 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I cant either, i think there are role restrictions

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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you need the member role

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you get it after like 3 days or so

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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lol

olive whale Jun 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Does lvl of monster from seed impact on possible modifier pool?

For example: There's reforge rare item with lightning modifiers from seed with lvl 67 monsters, and i want a mod which starts to roll from ilvl 68. Can these seeds possibly roll it?

brisk elk Jun 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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anyone know the name of the seed that adds 5 SOCKETS to an item

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Leech, yellow, t1.

brisk elk Jun 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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OO thank you so much

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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the seeds have a leeway of... +2? lvls i think?

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so a lvl 67 seed should work on a item up to lvl 69

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which is why you can actually farm your gear to start mapping yourself if you dont have any. That is if that stupid Life exalt would drop^^

olive whale Jun 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Oooh, that's nice!

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I mean if it works that way ofc

pure mantle Jun 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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How come the energy is not moving from my FULL storage to the disperser?

olive whale Jun 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Thanks, btw :)

wraith scroll Jun 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Popping my question from #1┃general here - does anyone know if seeds can be used to craft items that are ilvl >85 (i.e. ilvl 100 body armors from cards)

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Uh, i actually dont know, you would need someone with 84-87 seeds, maybe lvl 90 seeds

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marauderthinking with a Life exalt i could actually make a shield so expensive people dont have a price for it

rapid wasp Jun 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Do life cycles 9nly progress in areas u have yet to be in or can u go back to any area in any act and they will still progress

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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every time you click a cache the life cycle progresses

pure mantle Jun 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I really don't understand it. I connected everything the right way I suppose, but the energy is not moving

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Easiest way to get things right since it can be hard to see the big picture is to do one thing at a time. aka setup primal first and do only primal. Then place and setup the vivid, then wild (order doesn't matter)

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but this way you can clearly see as things are connected that the setup is correct

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and you won't get your wires crossed

quick quarry Jun 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I wanna double check. You can only harvest a 5x5 at a time right?

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Yes

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Well Not exactly true

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You can only harvest 5x5 per collector, but you can harvest as many collectors as you click in uhh 1-2 seconds

quick quarry Jun 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Does it increase the amount collected?

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

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no, each collector only grabs what is within it's own 5x5

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if you're thinking about the 1500 juice horti station you get it by doing t3/4 harvests

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though someone said a full t2 harvest works. idk, I got mine with t3

quick quarry Jun 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I haven't even gotten T3 seeds. Just building my T2 cache

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Has anyone done extensive Testing how ilvl affects Tier Up rate, or If its the Same across all ilvls

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

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how do you even delete things that u don't need anymore ?

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I've spent more time doing harvest stuff than playing the rest of the game. Gear is still shit b/c I'm not getting bases but it's easier to mess with farming and layouts while I'm on call

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Ctrl click

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

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yea harvest stuff is nice down time, its nice you can kinda stockpile stuff, and organize your farm or build it etc while idling

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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It's so nice and slow. I'm a hardcore casual aka I've got almost 3k hours into the game and I'm yet to kill all the og guardians. The game isn't balanced around people like me but this patch feels like it was made for me and it's amazing.

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

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wait i may be over complicated my grove for no reason, does anyone knows if you cant use the same line of pylone to both take and send energy ?

like if i use only one pylone to link
collector --->-- pylone --<-- disperser
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storage

does this work ?

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

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it will do both

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that works fine

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

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..... FUCK ME !

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im doing so complicated shit

pure mantle Jun 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@shadow flax Cheers, I was just too 3head and didn't connect on pylon

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@urban wind ty so much for this spreadsheet

urban wind Jun 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@spare axle You are welcome 🙂

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@balmy hound ok thanks lets go and re try this...

ebon kiln Jun 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Hey guys is it possible to harvest craft on iL 100 or would it say item level too high?

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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@kindred dagger

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kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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lol

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@urban wind does your spreadshit works ? to me for what i tested there seems to be some flaws in pylone and seeds growth

urban wind Jun 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@kindred dagger Yeah a lot of people have said it works. Let me know if there are any flaws, all the pylons are correctly placed.

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

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ok im gonna try some basic but i dont see how your storage works as pylone can only connect to 4 storage for exemple but i'll try it right now maybe i just dont visualise well the connexion in my mind

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 6:54 PM

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look in the bottom right corner of my drawing, his layout maybe diff but connections would be the same

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or bottom left too

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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yeah by testing its thats fine i get the connexion

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@balmy hound lol not sure we can see everything on yours, those link make it unreadable, but thanks for the share

keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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btw anyone got a clue how to get a t4 seed?

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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trying to understand how crafting works with harvest. How does this craft mod works :

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wanton rivet Jun 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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its like exalt

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it'll add another affix

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 6:59 PM

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it says there are no valid mods , incompatibility? spell damage % isnt valid there?

urban wind Jun 21, 2020, 6:59 PM

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ok im gonna try some basic but i dont see how your storage works as pylone can only connect to 4 storage for exemple but i'll try it right now maybe i just dont visualise well the connexion in my mind
@kindred dagger Storage connection diagram here : https://i.imgur.com/wTOUl8p.png

raw grove Jun 21, 2020, 6:59 PM

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so...one question, with this setup, does this mean the lifeforce from bottom left collector move along the direction of the 2 red arrows to the storage tanks?

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wanton rivet Jun 21, 2020, 6:59 PM

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ur itemlevel might be too low so there's nothing left for it to add

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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oh you're right the first affix starts at ilvl 2

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^^

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that's why thanks 🙂 . What is the purpose of seeds level? Is it for restriction ? Like you cant put a seed lvl X craft on an item with Ilvl Y where Y>X?

keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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seed lvl also indicate how much lifeforce they give

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probably also change the crafting result

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aka higher lvl gives better result not sure if anyone has tested that tough

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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but there are no restrictions? i can use a seed lvl 10 to craft an IlVL 83 item?

keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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havent tried it yet but wouldnt be suprised.... (also I dont really check on the lvl of my seeds when I craft stuff) but I havent run into any(tough Im primarily saving stuff up currently

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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ok thanks

keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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btw has anyone gotten the crafter thing? and what does it do?

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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The seed level restricts the level of the item you can use it on, yes.

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It's not exactly a Y>X rule though, I don't know the exact details.

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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seems fair

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I've used a seed of a couple levels lower for instance.

raw grove Jun 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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@keen tiger

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keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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nice

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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that's neet

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do you use them with stored lifeforce?

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the stored craft options i mean

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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No

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@raw grove life force isnt directional its more like electricity, it can go in any direction once its connected its connected

last axle Jun 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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vanity

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rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 7:06 PM

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You use the lifeforce and then it Stores the cfaft

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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oh ok

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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There is a new Button once you have the station

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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this league makes crafting way less frustrating

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clicking 1000 times an orb really wasnt my thing

keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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yeah

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finally getting a 6link doesn't take forever

deft ermine Jun 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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dunno about 6 link but getting decent items will be way easier, 6 link might definitely be faster too but targeting affixes is so great

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the remove one add one is godsend

keen tiger Jun 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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the remove one is amazing

vast gazelle Jun 21, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i need to hit some fire affixes

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so i can try to craft +1 fire wand

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 7:22 PM

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This is my preferred method for setting up storage as opposed to what I've seen elsewhere. Easily expandable - knock out the last connection, add another python, reconnect between the two pylons and now you have +2 connections for storage.

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void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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chaosthinking

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Your pylon:storage ratio is 1:2 when it can easily be 1:3.

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You naturally increase the size of your tile-ing to a 1x4 from your current 1x3 though.

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Pylon 1:3 has an issue with expansion. You have to make more cells in order to expand and store more lifeforce. This has a lower ratio yes, but it's easier to expand.

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 7:33 PM

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carefull you are making the math teacher mad templarLul

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:33 PM

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?

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How is there an expansion issue?

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A single storage can have 2 connections.

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You can string it along seamlessly.

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Hm, that wasn't working for me which is why I did this

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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And because there are 3 storage units per tile, you have 2 free connections per tile too.

shadow flax Jun 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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hold on let me test again

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I have definitely connected a single storage to 2 pylons, if there is a routing issue after doing so then I dunno,

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Game lets me click the buttons though.

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You can even have all 3 types tiled in a recurring pattern.

urban wind Jun 21, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@shadow flax You can easily expand the 1:3 configuration, See this image : https://i.imgur.com/xI2lhU1.png

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Is there a reason for the gap between apart from aesthetics ?

urban wind Jun 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Ive left the gap in here to show the expansion more clearly.

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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👍

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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can I get some help with the color-coding for the example crop layouts?

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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how to get rid of stored lifeforce from the collector?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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so where exactly do I connect each pylon to each dispenser in each color configuartion? I'm starting with the purple one, but it's showing yellow colors connecting from across the map.

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I don't think I have enough materials to really do it efficently, but it'd be nice to at leasat get my farm started to be efficent

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 7:52 PM

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get materials first, its going pretty fast

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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ok...

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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its only my opinion do as u wish

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 7:54 PM

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but I mean, I don't really understand how they connect still

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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What part of the connection do you not get?

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Keep the 3 colours separate and it's pretty straightforward, there is no in/out front/back, as long as it is connected to the right colour, you are good.

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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... how are colors from across the map yellow on a purple tile?

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how do you connect them to do that?

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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someone meybe just did put random colour to link em?

small wigeon Jun 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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so, i've been leveling and trying to reach mapping, just picking up seeds and storing them and now i can't plant these for some reason. Is there anything i can do with them or just vendor

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violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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those are all t2+ and hgave their requirements listed in their dscrip

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 8:01 PM

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how can i get rid of stored lifeforce from the collector? i cannot put it back like this to the stockpile

small wigeon Jun 21, 2020, 8:01 PM

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they actually all tier 1

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kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 8:02 PM

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ok 100% its bug or there is something really mest up with grove, EVERYTIME seed T2 bugs and stop growing because they said li need more condense X force

but the dispenser is working and i got my storage full.... but for some weird reason they just say that i dont have enough, and yes its automated ON

fuck this

undone parrot Jun 21, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Do you have the right type of condensed lifeforce? @kindred dagger

languid lake Jun 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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whats the best way to get t1 seeds?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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so.. anyone know how to get the right colors for the crop layouts?

languid lake Jun 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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im hurting right now for wild force

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trying to plant my t4 seed

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 8:05 PM

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You arent colorblind by any Chance right and are using the wrong lifeforce?

kindred dagger Jun 21, 2020, 8:05 PM

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@undone parrot is this is ajoke ?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:08 PM

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So discord isn't letting me link this photo

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 8:10 PM

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You dont have the member tag

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You cant Post Pictures

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 8:11 PM

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how can i get rid of stored lifeforce from the collector? i cannot put it back like this to the stockpile

glossy barn Jun 21, 2020, 8:11 PM

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seriously how do you deal with getting more seeds of other types? I'm just getting more vivids wtf

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I don't see where to get the member tag, i have a photo I need to post :C

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I looked in rules..

eager charm Jun 21, 2020, 8:12 PM

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3 day time period

nimble fiber Jun 21, 2020, 8:14 PM

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so if a seeds ilvl is 67 it can only craft ilvl 67 and below gear right

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Can I post a google spreadsheet of my farm setup then? I optimized one that was on reddit for 45 of each storage container instead of 9 @eager charm

nimble fiber Jun 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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45...

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Big gains

nimble fiber Jun 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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very big

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I'mma wait til yuzu responds, don't wanna accidentally break a rule

eager charm Jun 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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just a FYI: editing in a mention doesnt actually ping the person but sure

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I also need to verify it works, so if anyone who understands the mechanics can double check it

nimble fiber Jun 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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which one did you optimize, the one that had some sort of pylon highway to the top right?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Yea

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qN88_NssaNPZwGLkTfKZRcrcs-taednVEF36kL_25ek/edit?usp=sharing

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Only issue is, i THINK you can route over any stairs with pylons, hopefully that is true

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:18 PM

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45 seems excessive at a certain point you're not going to need the storage

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:18 PM

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But why not have 45 if you can?

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Because you can have more production instead exaltThink

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Technically, there is space for an extra 9 of yellow & blue with that setup, but uneven numbers is bleh

void wing Jun 21, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Gotta optimize that production to consumption too.

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The layout is pretty hot though.

gusty sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 8:20 PM

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i think im being an idiot, got issues with propperly connecting pylons with storages, anyone got som sort of sheet on how they should be optimally connected?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:21 PM

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My spreadsheet i linked it super optimized

gusty sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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i ment more how should i connect pylons with storages, in a criss-cross or straight lines?

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cuz i think i messed up

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says my T2 seeds any getting enough force, but my tanks are full

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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basically

nimble fiber Jun 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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should update the total equipment

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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one pylon to three pylons

gusty sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 8:23 PM

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100% Pepega here

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:23 PM

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then each of those three pylons connect to three storages things

gusty sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 8:23 PM

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ait

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:24 PM

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so a 3x3 square of storage capped by an upside down T

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at the bottom of the 3x3 connect one pylon to the three bottom storage things, and connect that pylon to your concentrator for your t1 fields

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can someone explain how I read the google doc on color connections? Or link a video? I am stumped.

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Do you want my google sheet?

gusty sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 8:28 PM

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templarthumbsup fixed it

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me smort

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I am looking at it and am completely lost. Am I putting pylons next to central sections of the collectors, or the outside of them?

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So anything with a P is a pylon

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right

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let me find the photo to show the visual setup of it one sec

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ok, that would be helpful

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https://i.imgur.com/4Ln1MVF.png

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can't link it directly, but that's the idea

obsidian flare Jun 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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how do ppl make the bigger t2+ farm? when i do it t2 seeds say there are no adjacent t1

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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but those are storange tanks?

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Yea S is storage tank

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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guys

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need some help

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I'll update the sheet with a expanded legend one sec

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 8:31 PM

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for the pylon inside

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what do I connect it to ?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:31 PM

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but I mean for the configuration of the basic t2-t3 setup for all of the colors.

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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is it good if I link all 3 with inside P

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and got the right P to storage ?

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yes

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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am I putting pylons next to the connector and then outside of it, or just inside, or...

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Connector?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:33 PM

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er, collector

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and then putting pylons on the outside? but then how do you connect them to different colors?

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:34 PM

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You don't want any pylons in the harvest area, everything is outside the square

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This isn't his layout but here's an example

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violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:36 PM

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can I get an in-game screenshot visual?

wanton rivet Jun 21, 2020, 8:38 PM

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do that many seeds drop in maps wtf

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I'm trying to understand this logically, but I still just can't figure out what connects whewre for the life of me.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qN88_NssaNPZwGLkTfKZRcrcs-taednVEF36kL_25ek/edit?usp=sharing

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if only i could get someone to just do it for me. this is big brain shit.

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Fixed? Legend on right side @violet nymph

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I mean.. it's... a legend.

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but it's not for the collector, specifically. i'm asking about the collector layout

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Which one top right or the t1 ones?

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top right one.

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 8:45 PM

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is it normal that the game won't auto plent some things ?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Oh, you just put the pylons exactly where labeled

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 8:45 PM

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or plent a part of the patch

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exaltThink

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Connect blue pylons to blue dispersers, and blue collection thingys

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same for all three

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like this?

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balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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There's an inventory bug this patch, if you pull seeds out of your stash and put them in inventory it will auto plant

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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gonna be honest without seeds it's hard as fuck to tell

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i don't have any blue seeds rip

lunar quarry Jun 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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You don't want any pylons in the harvest area, everything is outside the square
@balmy hound holyyy shit wtf is that. oh no

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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The in-game visuals are terrible

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:48 PM

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it's a 5 by 5 square, and you can't grow t3 or t4 in the corners

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this help any?

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so in top left corner put a yellow disperser, top right corner put a magenta disperser*

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@lunar quarry It's my version of the pylon connections drawn as best I could with my phone Editor 😂

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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right, but now how do I get those pylons to become those colors?

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I meant dispersers not pylons rip

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Connect them to that color storage

lunar quarry Jun 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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swwwww

@lunar quarry It's my version of the pylon connections drawn as best I could with my phone Editor 😂
@balmy hound this spreadsheet scared me

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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You just click on the pylons and connect the dots according to the colors in my spreadsheet

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I don't have enough materials right now anyway to do much with it. I guess I understand a bit better.

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Follow my squiggly lines and it tells to exactly how to connect stuff

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:51 PM

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yea so think of it as a circuit, your storage is your battery, your t1 farm is your generator and your t2+ farm is your output

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connect the t1 farm (generator) to the storage (battery), then connect the storage (battery) to the out put (disperser and harvester in t2+ farms)

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If it's not working, the link in that order is messed up

balmy hound Jun 21, 2020, 8:54 PM

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It's literally called Daisy chaining, every blue object needs a blue connection ever yellow needs a yellow etc. Each object can have up to 4 conduits

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:54 PM

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So if you're having issues, start from your t1 farm, and follow the chain up to the t2 farm, eventually you'll find the circuit break (where pylons are not connected)

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Yea it's net+ cert all over again gag

odd cloud Jun 21, 2020, 8:57 PM

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The reroll life craft change the tier or just reroll the number?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 8:57 PM

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i think I got the first farm up and running, even though it's only going to output t1s for now

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now I just need to get more dispersers to get other farm colors connected

obsidian flare Jun 21, 2020, 9:00 PM

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why do some t2 seeds say there is no t1 seed adjacent but its literally touching it?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 9:03 PM

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I think ifinally figured it out. feelsgood.

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 9:06 PM

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how can i get rid of stored lifeforce from the collector? i cannot put it back like this to the stockpile

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 9:13 PM

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auto plant isn't doing anything

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even though everything is connected

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huhu

balmy sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 9:14 PM

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hey, does anyone have the levels required to get 6 socket/link recipes from leech and feasting horror seeds?

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 9:14 PM

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or auto plant only plants 4 seeds

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not a whole patch

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wtf ?

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is this all glitched ?

balmy sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 9:15 PM

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try taking all seeds to inv

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sometimes it bugs

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also t2 seeds wont autoplant

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 9:16 PM

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i'm talking about t1 so all good for this

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it's weird ..

balmy sparrow Jun 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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i hope we get poe ninja data on seeds, some t1 seeds are way more useful than others

zealous sentinel Jun 21, 2020, 9:22 PM

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does anyone know what i have to do to trigger the quest for the essence storage?

silver kettle Jun 21, 2020, 9:23 PM

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have more lifeforce available than your collector can hold and condense it

zealous sentinel Jun 21, 2020, 9:24 PM

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ok ty, i was wondering how i got it in hcssf in act 4 and now in sc akt 10 i dont have them 😄

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Am i playing wrong or what is the point of the league? I am lvl 88 and so far manage to get 3 tier3 seeds, outside of the free alch for maps, what else is there that can net some currency? You are suppose to attempt those random level 1 crafts on high level items and sell them (cuz it didn't work for me)?

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 9:30 PM

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can someone tell me which setup is the best out of those :" https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b1maezGBODta9rGgcd58bkcG6DwrCdoFfBjRTyUOqyo/htmlview?pru=AAABcvXfViQ*OrM2AmzRUsacMKcB4ylfjg#

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NnAHWdxPcK6olfrMEsVur8mhGGnGZj38ZhQE030FsAM/edit#gid=579628768

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:31 PM

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There is no best set up, you have so much free space, due to the fact its hard to produce higher tier seeds

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NnAHWdxPcK6olfrMEsVur8mhGGnGZj38ZhQE030FsAM/edit#gid=579628768
@blissful current running with this one, but it really dosent matter

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 9:31 PM

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really?

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alright ill try to do that one too then

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looks simpler xD

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so just to be sure

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the T1 ones in the corners like vivid t1 are collectors aswell right?

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It does not say C specifically so im not sure

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Yea

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They are collectors

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 9:33 PM

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alrgiht thank you

somber wigeon Jun 21, 2020, 9:35 PM

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What are the requirements for T4 seeds?

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:36 PM

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What are the requirements for T4 seeds?
@somber wigeon 300+ maps 🙂

somber wigeon Jun 21, 2020, 9:37 PM

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No, I mean planting requirements

astral yew Jun 21, 2020, 9:39 PM

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guy i need help

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how to connect this reddit layout https://gyazo.com/f3788fb0ef0bed08437885e50cefd1e9

Gyazo

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like the dispensers and stuff connect with what lol

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Pretty sure planting requirements wont be the problem

astral yew Jun 21, 2020, 9:40 PM

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i made the layout ingame but im confuse

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Which part?

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D to P

sharp iron Jun 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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What do the new forms of Sacrifice to the Goddess do?

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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@astral yew Think of all as a big network, where the rule is applied to all as it follow - Can't have more than 4 connections, cant have connections with more than 4 spaces and thats it

frosty basin Jun 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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So did we figure out what the new X to the Goddess items do?

sharp iron Jun 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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That's what I'm asking

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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One adds 5 uses to the divine font

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And Makes everything harder

sharp iron Jun 21, 2020, 9:54 PM

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So it's just harder labyrinth with more rewards (namely enchantments)?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 9:54 PM

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So apperantly every time I open the harvest in my hideout its bugged and I can't interract with it. I can only interract when its open from a new encounter

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thats a saj

frosty basin Jun 21, 2020, 9:55 PM

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So it's just harder labyrinth with more rewards (namely enchantments)?
yes that's what I'd expect. The unknown is the details - what kind of rewards, what kind of increased difficulty.

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:55 PM

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So tier 3 seed that requires approximately 24 tier 2 seeds and those 24 tier tier 2 seeds requires 576 T1 seed on average net in 5 twice enchanted?

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That is amazing 10c profit for 64 maps

frosty basin Jun 21, 2020, 9:57 PM

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you're right, though to nitpick, it's better than twice enchanted - twice enchanted is cheap, because most people don't run the lab

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 9:57 PM

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How much are you willing to pay for 5 use of divine font?

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Enchanted fossil is 2c rn, ok add 1c for the resonators its again 15c profit

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The main concern is not complexity of the league, but lack of actual reward, the whole thing can sum into free map alch and thats about it

dense copper Jun 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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How do i get high tier seeds?

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Do we know If Higher lvl seeds have a Higher Chance to drop Higher Tiers?

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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T2 seed is killing T1 mobs, T3 seed is killing T2 mobs and so on

wary field Jun 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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is there a site where I can see what all affixes classify as? e.g. what's a life modifier, what counts as attack modifier, defense modifiers etc for the seeds

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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T4 seed is approximately 1152 maps if you get 12 seeds on average per map and 1 seed per 24 harvests

drowsy portal Jun 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Are there T5 seeds, or was that just rumor?

rigid stream Jun 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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No T5 seed, but something Else...

drowsy portal Jun 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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If there are more crafting options, then that's what I'll like lol

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I also seriously hope they make harvest integrated into core, that will be great for Solo SSF players

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I've already crafted some great stuff and I'm a newbie

dense copper Jun 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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@oblique falcon Which mobs?

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:06 PM

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When you have t1 seed ready to be harvested, it spawn mobs, those mobs can drop higher tier seeds

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 10:06 PM

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can somebody explain me what i need to connect what with here?

how to connect this reddit layout https://gyazo.com/f3788fb0ef0bed08437885e50cefd1e9
@astral yew

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Like that guy does not get it either xD

dense copper Jun 21, 2020, 10:07 PM

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@oblique falcon Thanks

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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@blissful current D to P while following the universal rule

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Think of all as a big network, where the rule is applied to all as it follow - Can't have more than 4 connections, cant have connections with more than 4 spaces and thats it

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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alright but for example

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the lower left the pylon

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what the fuck does that connect to?

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the collector?

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I think I simply failed to install pylons

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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and you cant fill up all the seeds right with this etup

spare axle Jun 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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might be why I can't auto plant properly

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or smth

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fml

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Just click as they are grouped by colors just try it out, nothing you can screw anyway

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You cant fill all the seeds, mainly cuz you lack enough higher tier seeds

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Damn the more i think and read all the "amazing crafting options" and so on the more i feel like this is just standard with something that wasn't think trough in term of actual reward

frigid jasper Jun 21, 2020, 10:14 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b1maezGBODta9rGgcd58bkcG6DwrCdoFfBjRTyUOqyo/htmlview?pru=AAABcvaFW1Y*q8Ji3S8J0TOSDqpAbh8s3Q

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This setup is better imo @blissful current

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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What dose make it better, its more complicated and time consuming, what dose make it better?

buoyant copper Jun 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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ive been following this farm setup guide

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and idk how to connect the storage tanks together

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pylons have a max of 4 connections, so do i just add more pylons to the side?

marsh wyvern Jun 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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no. it literally shows you how

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pole to storage

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x3

buoyant copper Jun 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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do the storages autofill each other

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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@frigid jasper damn too late but why is it better?

marsh wyvern Jun 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yes as long as its all connected together

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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btw is auto disperse supposed to be on?

oblique falcon Jun 21, 2020, 10:19 PM

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it is a network, despite the D/P/S where P is the only thing that can connect other pieces

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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how can i get rid of stored lifeforce from the collector? i cannot put it back like this to the stockpile

languid path Jun 21, 2020, 10:23 PM

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use it to feed t2+ seeds without being connected to a storage

brittle vault Jun 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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thanks!

blissful current Jun 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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https://gyazo.com/545b2c0be15e0a6ee3ffe1555c6adf4b

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so uhh how do i exactly feed those now?

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just plant t1 seeds close to them?

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but how can t4 plants then exist

frigid jasper Jun 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I feel like the one you used fills a lot of good space to maybe some other collectors?

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Yea t1 seeds next to them

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 10:42 PM

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the person who posted this made a small mistake

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you need to put a yellow pylon in the highlighted box or you can't reach the yellow disperser north of it

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rapid wasp Jun 21, 2020, 10:43 PM

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sooo if one collector is ready to harvest would that stop other plants from growing?
this tier 2 seed has been saying 7 growth cycles for the longest now
and same with all the other seeds i have they wont go down

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 10:44 PM

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sounds like your tier 2 seed isn't growing because of some other issue

frosty aurora Jun 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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99.5% space efficient gardening setup. All tiers. Connection guides in comment. https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/hdd9zs/995_space_efficient_gardening_setup_all_tiers/fvkfk81/

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lol

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 10:57 PM

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i aint touching that shit lol

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where does t2 even go

frigid jasper Jun 21, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Wow

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That setup is sick

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You have to replace t3/4 in the upper right area is my guess @violet nymph

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With t2

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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ew

vapid jackal Jun 21, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Anyone know how rare augment with new phys mod is?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:01 PM

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very very rare at high levels

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i've yet to find one since like act 4

vapid jackal Jun 21, 2020, 11:01 PM

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I got augment a caster mod fairly eqasily

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but I cant find augment phy to save my life

rapid wasp Jun 21, 2020, 11:05 PM

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so can someone explain what this means " upon further testing it seems that the seeds not growing is related to level of monsters spawned by the seeds vs level of zone where the seedpod is."

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:08 PM

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@vapid jackal I see it quite often in maps

vapid jackal Jun 21, 2020, 11:08 PM

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What tier?

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:08 PM

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8s as of rn havent made it further

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Been showing up constantly for me

vapid jackal Jun 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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k, well if you see another id like to buy it. Ive been farming low level areas and Ive planted 150+ hellion seeds and not seen it once

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Sadly im ssf :v

vapid jackal Jun 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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RIP

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:10 PM

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I can condense them for you tho since im a chaos build templarLul

vapid jackal Jun 21, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Feelsbadman

somber wigeon Jun 21, 2020, 11:10 PM

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The crafting option that reforges the number of sockets on an item 10 times and picks the best one: Does anyone know if it has any possibility of reducing the total number of sockets from before you crafted it?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Anyone know why these wont grow

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Everything else did, they have what they need, its conntected

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Other flowers in the same bed, connected to same source grew

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@somber wigeon its a possibility if unlucky yes but it will pick the best outcome of the 10

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@violet nymph idk if its my phone quality but I cant see any near dispersers O.o

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

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rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Heyho, how do disperser work? It always shows red when I try to plant t2 there

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Blue light = primal so make sure the storage is the correct one only thing it could be as far as I can see

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Storage is good

somber wigeon Jun 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Sometimes dispensers glitch and show that they aren't working even though they are, btw

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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No clue then sadly

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:15 PM

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uggg

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:15 PM

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The plants want wild not primal tho

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From dispersers

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:15 PM

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mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Hmm

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Yea , i have it all, you said blue light

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Not sure what it might be if you got a wild storage connected to it

rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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I feel dumb, so far I realized how to plant m1 near collector and connect them to storage tanks. No clue how to grow t2 or higher or what happens when I connect a disperser with a collector

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Wish I could help :/

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@rugged stone took me a while to understand too tbh

rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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maybe I should read oshabis messages

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:17 PM

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ZiggyD got a garden guide up I believe

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Probably worth a watch

rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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oh wait, can I connect storage tanks of different colours to a disperser?

worldly sedge Jun 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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hey guys stupid question, im looking at the above template, why does that look so different than my layout in game?

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it looks flipped or something

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Hucus template?

rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:18 PM

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because wild t2 seems to need vivid, so there must be a way to connect them right?

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:19 PM

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You take a disperser connect it to a vivid tank through a pylon in that case @rugged stone

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I would show you but im in bed rn :/

worldly sedge Jun 21, 2020, 11:19 PM

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this looks more like my layout when i hit tab....

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rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:19 PM

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but that makes it a yellow disperser

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for a pink seed?

worldly sedge Jun 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yes it needs thar for growing its simple once you get the hang of it

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Its quite trial and error

rugged stone Jun 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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I ll watch that video I think

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but the disperser must be adjancent to a wild collector?

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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@worldly sedge his template is a picture from the air showing from top fo bottom

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@rugged stone it has a fiels around it that gets highlighted when you want to place it

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Field*

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Too many typos sleep time templarLul

rapid wasp Jun 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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@violet nymph figured out why they wont grow apparently if ur seeds are to high level compared to the zone ur in then ur seeds wont grow
like chamber of sins Act 2 is level 16 zone
so it wont grow my level 23 seeds ( idk why the game would give me such high seeds lol
but it grows my level 21 seeds

worldly sedge Jun 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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ill just imagine it flipped like i sent a few seconds ago

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

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@wide meadow wrong chat I think

wraith scroll Jun 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Is there a list of the jewel implicits you can get off the T2 seeds? So far I've only seen 1% ms

livid lake Jun 21, 2020, 11:25 PM

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frosty aurora 99.5% space efficient gardening setup. All tiers. Connection guides in comment. ...

rapid wasp Jun 21, 2020, 11:26 PM

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is it wise to save tier 2- 3 seeds until maps? or use them right away?

quick quarry Jun 21, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Has anyone figured out if planting similar seeds together crossbreeds them to desirable outcomes?

onyx helm Jun 21, 2020, 11:48 PM

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do we know the conditions for t4 seeds to grow?

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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@mortal yarrow I figured it out

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THe zone i was in was too low to count for those seeds

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Ahhh

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Didnt even consider that tbh

violet nymph Jun 21, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Didnt even know that was thing, they where t2s i got from the t1s whose zone i was in

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BUt i guess t2 seeds up themselves in level

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:50 PM

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It would make sense

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2am to sleep or not

onyx helm Jun 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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if exactly 1:52 am, dont

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Dont it is then

onyx helm Jun 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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high five

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Going back to imperial legacy grind templarSad

onyx helm Jun 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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gl

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btw, dooo we know the conditions for t4 seeds to grow?

mortal yarrow Jun 21, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I would expect 4adjacent T3

onyx helm Jun 21, 2020, 11:58 PM

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and is it possible that they need the 3 kinds of lifeforce?

half moon Jun 21, 2020, 11:59 PM

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if a seed spawns lvl65 monsters what ilvl items can I use on the crafts?

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65?

boreal forum Jun 22, 2020, 12:08 AM

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does it matter if you put multiple of the same craft t1 seed together or do you lose much by auto planting t1 seeds

onyx helm Jun 22, 2020, 12:11 AM

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autoplanting t1 seeds serves mainly to store lifeforce for higher tier seeds

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and multiple crafts on the same harvest mean more of those crafts

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so, for example, the more link craft seeds you plant, the more link crafts you get, therefore higher chance of getting rare crafts

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and more chances or re-rolling rares, etc

boreal forum Jun 22, 2020, 12:14 AM

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say for exam ple i spread out link craft seeds over multiple harvests, does that reduce my chances of rare crafts

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instead of stacking them all for one harvest

wraith scroll Jun 22, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Ugh I got refered to the pins when I asked about jewel implicits earlier but I can't seem to find any resources on them in there.

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welp guess I'm dumping my lifeforce into storage tanks - with the optimal setup needing like 150 of em might as well lol

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:29 AM

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but

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autoplanting is really bad for me somehow

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would plant 2/3 of a cell and won't do anything for the others

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am i just missing on something u_U

marsh wyvern Jun 22, 2020, 12:30 AM

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someone said earlier that if the seeds are too low level they wont auto plant

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if that is the case, just make sure to manually plant them all for some free juice

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:32 AM

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oh..

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thanks a ton

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any way to get those seeds around my level by any chance ?

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do you know what is considered too low level ?

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exalt

marsh wyvern Jun 22, 2020, 12:33 AM

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honestly idk. what level are you now?

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I harvested all the seeds, (only this t2 remains around this collector now).
Will the Wild seed requirement for this one reset after I reset instance?

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WOuld this add a implicit to this? I am guessing it doesnt work on uniques

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but before i click i wanna make sure the unique mod isnt a implicit

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Cause I know i can corrupt one on

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ok

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It adds one

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thats cool

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vapid jackal Jun 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Are all the "Augment an item" equal weighting so to speak?

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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level 69

vapid jackal Jun 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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wait

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It requires itemlevel 69?

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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oh no

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not for you sorry xD

vapid jackal Jun 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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oh

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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was answering for the person helping me above

vapid jackal Jun 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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ah

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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if it says only augment an item

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it's not different from the orb

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but there are targetted augments too I believe

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no guaranteed tier I'd guess

vapid jackal Jun 22, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Im farming quarry for t1 seeds

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to get Augment an attack mod

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Done like 150 seeds at this point

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No augment craft yet

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:45 AM

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@marsh wyvern level 69

mild pine Jun 22, 2020, 12:45 AM

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How frequently do tier 4 seeds drop from tier 3?

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 12:45 AM

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ye it did

marsh wyvern Jun 22, 2020, 12:46 AM

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not sure then, it should work fine with the ones you get in act 10

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:46 AM

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well for acts 10 it seems to work perfectly fine

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but then most of my stash is good for the bin

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but I heard we could vendor the seeds somehow

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maybe i'm wrong

marsh wyvern Jun 22, 2020, 12:46 AM

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the ones that did it to me were like lvl 25 or something silly

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i just planted all the low level ones then harvested for teh juice

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:47 AM

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ah yeah right

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ty for this :p

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will manually juice them I guess

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at least it'll get me rid of these low level seeds

marsh wyvern Jun 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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now im strugging to get enough wild seeds to do the tier 2s lol. when i was doing the story, almost all the seeds i got were wild

blissful spindle Jun 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Can "remove a defensive mod" get rid of a res?

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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well i'll redo entirely my garden

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i'd say yes

marsh wyvern Jun 22, 2020, 12:49 AM

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thats exactly what i did. i waited until i got to maps then redid it

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i used this one (the left L), prolly better designs tho but im way too lazy to figure it out https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1b1maezGBODta9rGgcd58bkcG6DwrCdoFfBjRTyUOqyo/htmlview?pru=AAABcvVljX4#

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 12:51 AM

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it looks fairly straight forward

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and it's not wasting too much space

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👌

wraith scroll Jun 22, 2020, 1:05 AM

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not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but it looks like ilvl 90 seeds will work on ilvl 100 bases - ilvl 75 seed works on ilvl 85 dagger

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violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Do you choose what it changes into?

glossy barn Jun 22, 2020, 1:09 AM

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no lol

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this is PoE not choice of exile

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 1:09 AM

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You don't get to choose what mods get added to your items, either

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 1:09 AM

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This isnt mods

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This is a new mechanic

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 1:10 AM

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It isn't precisely new. There's already other mechanics in the game that exchange items, e.g. Gravicius' div card swap

wraith scroll Jun 22, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I would like 1 of the most expensive essence please. Thanks.

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 1:11 AM

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If it doesn't specifically say you get to choose something, you probably don't.

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FWIW, the same seed also has "change a stack of Oils into a different colour of Oil" and "change a stack of Fossils into a different type of Fossil", so I can guarantee you that you don't get to pick a type

small wigeon Jun 22, 2020, 1:33 AM

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each basic plot here would need a collector of its own, right?

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pliant plover Jun 22, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I can’t wait for someone to figure out a best setup so I can copy it path of geometry isn’t what I signed up for

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 1:39 AM

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harvest scientists are working hard on it https://imgur.com/a/kzQvwsr

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Connections: Space efficient gardening setup - PoE Harvest

pliant plover Jun 22, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Mad

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Thank you

languid path Jun 22, 2020, 1:42 AM

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tomorrow we're gonna get a layout that uses more space than the grove actually has

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uLtRa eFfiCieNt

frosty aurora Jun 22, 2020, 1:47 AM

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overlapping zone for t3 seeds...?

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don't you like

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lose gigaton

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of juice

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Lol.

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also other issue is that it's only for wild type that way

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 1:54 AM

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hhhhhhhhhhhh

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why do i only get primal shit

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balmy hound Jun 22, 2020, 1:55 AM

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How is it only wild? It has every type in there. The problem with layouts right now is no one is calculating life juice output vs harvest intake vs storage. You may very well find you need less storage and more output but the bottle neck might be amount of seeds and not space which seems more likely to me

shy lagoon Jun 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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guys did anyone understand whats this?

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https://imgur.com/a/ymqp5AV

languid path Jun 22, 2020, 2:03 AM

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https://poedb.tw/us/Farric_Lure
https://poedb.tw/us/Saqawine_Lure
https://poedb.tw/us/Fenumal_Lure
https://poedb.tw/us/Craicic_Lure

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my guess would be they open a boss fight

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 2:04 AM

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map fragments with purity reservation? 🤔

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i heard it was a way to deterministically get specific beast types in maps

wanton rivet Jun 22, 2020, 2:30 AM

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pokemon league

livid apex Jun 22, 2020, 2:39 AM

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ok so

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im confoose

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is it a legit strategy to save mediocre tier 2 seeds in the interest of using them to "fertilize" tier 3 seeds

barren ingot Jun 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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sure does own this league super baits and switches you on rewards

mild pine Jun 22, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I'm getting more lifeforce when harvesting than I would expect from (15 * 8), should have gotten 120, but got 182, and the "+% lifeforce" mod was only about 8%. Is there some other actor that scales lifeforce gained?

scenic belfry Jun 22, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Is there a list of the possible jewel implicits you can get?

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From the seedcraft

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:03 AM

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?

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max tanks is 3?

spare axle Jun 22, 2020, 3:07 AM

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max link for 1 conduit is 4

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exaltThink

ocean narwhal Jun 22, 2020, 3:09 AM

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yeah you can't connect more than 4 cables to a conduit

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Do i need more than 3 tanks per 1 harvest

ocean narwhal Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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"Source" in this case being the thing you clicked first

surreal axle Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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this only can be used on ilevel max 70?

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ocean narwhal Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I mean I think you're gonna need loads of tanks for endgame stuff

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yeah but 1 harvest

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only one

ocean narwhal Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I've been spending most of my leveling juice on tanks

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Btw

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1 more think

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what does a tank do exactly?

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i am confused

ocean narwhal Jun 22, 2020, 3:11 AM

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it stores excess juice

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so you can use it to water t2-4 seeds

obtuse elm Jun 22, 2020, 3:11 AM

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saw someone link a chart of all the lightforce recipies now I can't find it, anyone have a link?

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:11 AM

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so if i link the harvest to the tank will the dispersers actually work?

ocean narwhal Jun 22, 2020, 3:12 AM

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If you link a collector to a tank, and to a disperser

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then they'll work

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:12 AM

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what if i link the harvest to the tank then do another link for the harvest but with disperser not linked to tank will it work?

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but ofc disperser linked to the harvest

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in other words individual links

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link harvest to disperser alone and harvest to tank alone

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will it work?

surreal axle Jun 22, 2020, 3:14 AM

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there is any official explanation about how the seed "ilevel" limits the craft?

steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:14 AM

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its probably just higher tier modifiers

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mostly likely it tbh

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@ocean narwhal

surreal axle Jun 22, 2020, 3:15 AM

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but things like this that don't involve mods

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steel plinth Jun 22, 2020, 3:15 AM

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That i dont know

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but i think higher = higher chance for 6 link

surreal axle Jun 22, 2020, 3:16 AM

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cause it works on a ilevel 72 item

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confuse af chaosthinking

zealous nova Jun 22, 2020, 3:23 AM

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For ilvl 100 items, what level seed do i need to use to craft or anyone have experience crafting those?

wet harbor Jun 22, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Did I just reinvent the optimal setup or is it janky

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final venture Jun 22, 2020, 3:25 AM

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It still need to meet the socket level requirements or number of sockets @steel plinth @surreal axle

floral oxide Jun 22, 2020, 3:25 AM

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janky af lol

wet harbor Jun 22, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I get coverage so I'm happy tho

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obviously some just aren't lit up

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 3:33 AM

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uhhhh

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something seems incorrect here

copper spoke Jun 22, 2020, 3:48 AM

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How are you supposed to make a second tank????

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Even a full garden doesn't yield 75 lifeforce

languid path Jun 22, 2020, 3:53 AM

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higher lvl seeds

copper spoke Jun 22, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Oh, does that come naturally as you level up your character?

noble bison Jun 22, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Yeah, you'll get plenty of lifeforce for creating infrastructure with when you reach maps

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You don't need to go too over the top with infrastructure while levelling anyway, I think

copper spoke Jun 22, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Ah ok got it, thanks for the info !

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Just farm quarry for a few befoer you out level it

jovial spindle Jun 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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is there a way to pick up stuff and remove its stored lifeforce so i can stack it in stash

cinder orchid Jun 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Anyone can help me with this bug?

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I've had a seed ready to harvest but I can't harvest it, says it needs more vivid life force, but it's connected to a storage container but doesn't disperse it.

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Pic on request

tardy ridge Jun 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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is there anything that increases the number of seeds you get from a cache? like map tier or map quant?

willow moss Jun 22, 2020, 4:42 AM

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i am scared to pick up my collectors/storage tanks with lifeforce in them, do i lose my lifeforce if i pick them up?

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 4:42 AM

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No. They keep any stored lifeforce when picked up

willow moss Jun 22, 2020, 4:42 AM

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ah cool

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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The only gotcha is that you can't put them in the seed stash while they have stored lifeforce

north dragon Jun 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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wat

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silver kettle Jun 22, 2020, 4:53 AM

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wat

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okay found the issue (but it's just a display bug)

wise quest Jun 22, 2020, 4:56 AM

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New op layout notLikeThis

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I feel like this is getting out of hands

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Would be cool if the grove would be just a flat square area like the nebula hideout

wise quest Jun 22, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Nah that would mean you could see stuff

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Oh right cant have that in poe

wise quest Jun 22, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Planing on exel and then doing the exact same layout looks like the only way to get something that makes sense together

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Well this is one of 3 storage units that I build which can each hold ~3k lifeforce

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https://puu.sh/FZ4fq/c7cc457884.png

wise quest Jun 22, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I dont have those tanks yet 😢

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 4:59 AM

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And this is what I would imagine to work as the higher seed area xD

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https://puu.sh/FZ4fH/4e1cdc4e36.jpg

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All of the Dispersers and Pylons have the right color to my surprise

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this should work

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up to t3

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I still don't get why there needs to be 3 different dispersers

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Each disperser can only disperse a single "color" of lifeforce

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 5:14 AM

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No shit, I meant why is it designed like that

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It's clunky

marsh jetty Jun 22, 2020, 5:16 AM

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good morning

wise quest Jun 22, 2020, 5:23 AM

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witchHarvest

shy lagoon Jun 22, 2020, 5:24 AM

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guys whats the max difference between seeds lvl and itemlevel while harvest crafting?

light jay Jun 22, 2020, 5:31 AM

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10 i think

wise quest Jun 22, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Zana mission makes me spend 5Minutes in 1 map

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2 Gardens + other stuff

mild pine Jun 22, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Can you sell horticulture stations with powers stored in them?

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 5:48 AM

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goodquestion

thorny shale Jun 22, 2020, 6:14 AM

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how do i make the crafring holder

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do i link up a bunch of tanks filled with lifeforce

cobalt falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:16 AM

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How people spam their vd fast with spellslinger.. i only cast 3 ball per cast with frenzy and barage support

cunning blaze Jun 22, 2020, 6:24 AM

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how do i make the crafring holder
@thorny shale A lot of T3 seeds can give you 1800 lifeforce to craft it. I believe it is also possible with some high ilvl t2 seeds aswell

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btw you can not craft anything using lifeforce from tanks

thorny shale Jun 22, 2020, 6:24 AM

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huh ty

cunning blaze Jun 22, 2020, 6:24 AM

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tanks are only for giving energy to t2-3-4 seeds

thorny shale Jun 22, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i'm going to water so many seeds with these tanks

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Maybe fewer than you think. High tier seeds use up a lot of lifeforce

stiff bough Jun 22, 2020, 6:28 AM

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what happens if a strip of collector intersects with the grid of another insector

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or clashes with geometry on the map like the treeline

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can you mess up where you plant one?

next epoch Jun 22, 2020, 6:30 AM

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It is possible to place a collector in a spot where some of its area is unusable, yes. You can pick it back up by control-clicking it and move it to a better spot

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There are a bunch of guides being worked on with heavily optimized layouts.

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https://imgur.com/a/kzQvwsr is one such

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Connections: Space efficient gardening setup - PoE Harvest

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:32 AM

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So is the augment a mod onto an item craft not available once you've hit a certain zone level?

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I haven't seen it since hitting maps.

stiff bough Jun 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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whats going on in the top right of that garden map

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i just started the league

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Man feedback on Reddit on harvest is getting quite negative already

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People are bored

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Well it's a very interactive mechanic while leveling that's for certain. Absolutely amazing for so, but one you hit maps it's just a glorified chaos/alch recipe at the lower tiers. And the ascending tiers are too difficult for most people to even engage with.

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I think it's going to receive some changes so it's more straightforward in the future. Though considering GGG's track record, this may take a month.

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Yeah I was confused. I had these fun and powerful crafts while leveling and as soon as I hit maps, all the crafts were just chaos/alchs basically

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:39 AM

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I mean.. it's understandable I've aquired like 5 watchstones and I already feel like quitting

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The only really new thing is being able to do Synthesis stuff again which is sooo rare that it takes forever to engage with

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I think the mechanic would do far better if there was more obvious variety to what can be done with it. I've seen nothing but the same shitty reforge mod more often than not.

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If they made the aug, annul, and switch and so forth mods more available then it would be interesting.

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It would be interesting to use it to craft powerful gear, but as it stands I'm slowly interacting with the mechanic less and less as it feels like a complete waste of time.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I still remain my case and wont change it until i see any improvement. This league is just standard with added free map alch

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Just add tough magic packs to seed cache, let them drop T2 seeds. boom ez donw finished completerino

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Let monsters in maps drop higher level seeds so you can actually get something other than reforge 20x per harvest

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Is there any difference in doing the mechanic in T1 vs T16 besides item level drops?

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It doesn't seem anymore rewarding with seeds drops to me.

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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IMO the 8 seeds per map is just too little.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Could be that higher iLevel seeds increase the chances of getting a single good craft

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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I got 8 seeds per cache on twilight strand and I am still getting that in T5 maps

violet nymph Jun 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/580813777763827712/724507052495601694/9sPI16f.jpg?width=562&height=703 (Harvest Meme)

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Such an unbalanced league.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Single tier 3 seed is 64 maps per average of T2 seed found in 24 T1 mobs and T3 being 24 T2 mobs with 9 seeds droped per mat

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Absoltuely bliss at league start it felt like as you could make such crazy shit you normally wouldn't have at that point.

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Guess GGG really wanted to kill the loot part of the game like they said.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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It's just weird. You get a bunch of things that are supposed to allow for insane crafts. Yet 99% of all crafts are shitty chaos spams between maps

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Absolutely this

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Which on average will yield between 8 and 70c so 39C on average per 64 maps sound a bit off

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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In addition to that what even is that point of crafting insane weapons if there is no challenging stuff to use them on?

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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You look at all the crafts on the teaser and it's great.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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You can only delete Sirus as hard as you could before

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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You actually engage though and you get shitty chaos recipe crafts 90% of the time.

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Other 10% is the replace a mod with same exact mod craft.

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Well delirium was just too much loot and now we have the complete opposite. Like a heroin addicte quitting cold turkey

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Well any league would feel like a step down

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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There's Uber lab variants, 300% damage Izaro, 6 enchant chances and stuff

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:47 AM

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But this is an entire staircase down

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I mean cool

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More lab stuff

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People hate lab for a reason

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 6:48 AM

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I'm not people, I love it

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:49 AM

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6 enchant chances is 18c with enchant fossil (2c)+resonator(1c) that is T3 recipe as stated you need 64 maps for a 18c loot 😉

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Exactly this, and that's only optimal, most people are not going to run the optimal setup for the optimal result.

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A lot of work, underwhelming reward.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Meanwhile the new Harbinger uniques

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Biggest joke in the entire game

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Sounds like Delirium on release

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Its not optimal, best reward is 10c to ex for T3 in my eyes and the chance is 1/72

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I guess to me it doesn't feel like very much work

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like you have the buy in effort to set up the area

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but after that everything just happens in the mapping lane

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not like I wasn't going to run those maps

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Seems like a lot of work to someone who is farming their own seeds and is just using a regular setup they made themselves.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:55 AM

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So why should one play this league instead of standard Wallach?

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Good leveling

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 6:55 AM

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why would you ever play standard to begin with

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Why would you ever play this League?

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Like idk you can't really fix this league it's just boring with nothing to do

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Standard? I'd rather get hit by a train than have to sort out 100+ remove only tabs

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:56 AM

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What is the difference between this free alch league an std?

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 6:57 AM

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if you want to try and get trading done in standard be my guest

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couldn't be me

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 6:57 AM

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That dosen't change the fact that the league is not rewarding at all

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 6:58 AM

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the reward is a fresh garden salad

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 6:58 AM

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I mean it's right for them to reduce the amount of garbage that drops from every single white mobs

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but in return you gotta up the quality of what actually drops

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 6:58 AM

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I mean it isn't shitting loot at a stupid rate like delirium or legion

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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I want to think they'll work on fixing this to make the league more rewarding.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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What do you actually wanna do tho?

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Delirium loot was so good, legion loot was so good lol

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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But with how the league is tied to the crafts, I'm not sure how fucking long it would take them to change all of those into something actually good.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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They would need to introduce meaningful crafts

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New stuff

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Not a Chaos Orb cosplay

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Yeah, and that's going to take forever if they even decided to do that.

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Delirium loot was bad early league

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:01 AM

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"This league is prolly gonna break the game" yeah then give us stuff to brake the game

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Watch them say fuck it and increase delirum portal spawn rate and make this Delerium league's little brother.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Like give us a t4 craft that increases the number of affixes to 7 or 8

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idk new stuff

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powerful new stuff

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:02 AM

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We got a new craft here and there.

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The lock a modifier one.

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But that's meh..

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Thats not new

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Because of lock prefixes/suffixes mod?

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Literally just yoinked from Synthesis items that no one cared about

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Honestly, just giving us more T1 seeds would fix alot of problems

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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more t1 seeds is just more meaningless garbage

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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That dosen't change the fact that the league is not rewarding at all
@oblique falcon
Fucking what

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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all these chaos recipes are T1 seeds

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Yeah, making the higher tiers more easily accesible might help.

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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it means more T2 seeds and more Juice

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Well the meaningless garbage could just be turned into power for higher tiers.

wraith mason Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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which means more meaningful crafts

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Either give more seeds or actually introduce NEW mods that matter

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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they just need to increase the T2/T3 seed drop rate if people are spending too much time on T1 crafts

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:03 AM

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New mods to build and play around

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I think the mods we got were decent, they're just not to be seen.

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Target exalts and annuls looked cool.

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But where the fuck are they?

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:04 AM

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None of the mods are new tho

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it leads to exactly the same items as always

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just faster

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:04 AM

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They're not new, but it would have been a more accesible way of crafting expensive gear.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Instead of Month 2 for a 1k pDPS 2-hander its now gonna be Month 1

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:04 AM

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@velvet palm are you trying to say there is an actual reward (outside of the free map alch?)

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:05 AM

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It raises the bottom bar and allows weaker players to participate in higher tier content. Which isn't terrible.

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Yeah, insanely easy to craft top tier items

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Just.. git gud?

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Imagine using that shit as alchs templarLul

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:05 AM

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It's a lot more difficult than that. And I'm not talking about for myself.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Like if you arent ready to play hard content then idk. Boosting them with dumb items isnt gonna help them

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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I'm talking about looking out for the community in general which isn't your typical 3k+ hour PoE gamer that has hundreds of exalts.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Yeah, insanely easy to craft top tier items
@velvet palm how you craft top items when you need 1152 maps to gain single tier 4 seed

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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I think not being able to do hard content is often a result of a difficult to understand economy system.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Well PoE isnt supposed to be your easy going aRPG

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they said that multiple times

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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POE is increadibly easy if you just know how to make currency

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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You don't need t4 seeds

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Just the t1s make crafting high end shit easy

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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How come?

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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do you mean to grow a T4 seed or just to get one

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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T4's are to get a T5 boss

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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The reforge craft is lame and weak.

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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because I already have a T4 and I haven't run over 1k maps for fucking sure

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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@velvet palm can you back up this with something?

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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and I'm pretty sure waggle didn't either

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Can you link your profile to see how we are suppose to work with the new league interaction?

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I'm gonna assume this guy saw the league and didn't touch it

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I am 88 lvl and can say that i haven't seen anything from this league so far

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I've used the mechanic every time I've encountered it and have spammed every reforge I've had access to.

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It helped with 5Ls, it helped with decent items I normally wouldn't have for essentially free. But no "high end shit".

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Well yea, saving those 2-3C per item league starter is not "amazing"

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Dunno where that guy went when asked to back up his words @velvet palm you there mate?

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Crafting top tier stuff in PoE requires a decent understanding of the item system.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Hit 3 prefixes then meta craft

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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You do realise you don't need to ping me every time, right?

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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insane knowledge required

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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That crafting harvest provides is extremely powerful, but it isn't going to poop out targeted exalts if that's what you were hoping for.

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I'm not home, now go play fifa or whatever you do with your time

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Meta craft influence mods? Sure.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Still waiting for evidence about that top tier craft you mention

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Extremely powerful in what way?

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Free chaos craft?

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:11 AM

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🙂

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I see, that is so on point dude will go play fifa 🙂

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Just slam a conqueror ex then

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Read the seeds' descriptions, no clue what more you would need templarLul

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Like really this aint rocket science and harvest crafting is just utter garbo

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I assume reading is a little hard for you though

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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If you think this is garbo crafting then templarthumbsup

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Ok give an example which seed can grant you anything?

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Yeah, and the seeds tell me,"reforge for a physical mod".

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Cool

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So chaos craft like I just said?

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It sounds "amazing", oh my god I get to target physical mods. Pretty useless when after 100+ crafts I've only once hit anything higher 500pds

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:13 AM

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More phys, remove non phys add phys

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Same with caster

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Same with every element

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Remove non-caster mod, replace with caster mod.
Exalt for specific elemental mod

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:13 AM

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When have you seen the previous two?

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I've never seen the last two

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That's the issue

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Same with life, def, etc.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Despite the poor effort of trying to make someone look bad, would be better for you to give an example and say "Hey, this can net some currency". No you go with the attitude you are not worthy to explain i am superior without anything to back it up

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Target exalts an annuls are NONEXISTANT

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Send me a picture of you with one of those.

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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For you sure, it's RNG for a reason

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I'll suck you're fucking dick.

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Dude, all you do is talk shit

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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But it's so fucking rare that it's not even worthwhile considering.

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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That's why you aim for the craft table that lets you stor crafts for infinite useage

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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League's shit this aint shittalking

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:14 AM

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But you're talking out of your ass Rain.

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Saying this league is unrewarding, when this league is the most broken one so far

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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You are the one talking shit why i was giving you chance to explain and show the right way

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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I've interacting with this mechanic nonstop for 40 hours now

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Whats so broken about the league?

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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I've played nothing but this game since league start.

velvet palm Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Why would I waste time on you

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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It's not worthwhile.

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It's so simply Rain Good

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Making a statement should be based on something, what is your based on?

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Send a picture to use of those mods you talked about.

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Actually show us that those mods are even in the loot pool

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Because I have YET to see them.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:15 AM

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@velvet palm Where's the broken part in this league? appart from the non-existent fun

woeful halo Jun 22, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Sample size of 1, mods don't exist at all

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Math checks out

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:16 AM

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I'm almost certain at this point that target exalts and annuls drops out of the loot pool after a certain point.

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I've talked to other people.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:16 AM

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That insane top tier item was mad in 30+ attempts

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void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:16 AM

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They are definitely in the loot pool, but they get rarer with increase in seed level.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:16 AM

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I even consider myself lucky with that being from the T1 nodes

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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So they get rarer with seed level.

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How fucking rare are they? About as rare as I'm likely to drop a raw exalt?

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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The rarity issue might be something, I don't know that info and haven't experienced it enough to be able to talk about it.

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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So they're pointless?

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Seeds have a range of 10 so you basically only farm 76 ilevel zones and t16s are useless

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insane league

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Single T4 seed is approximately 1152 maps if you get 12 seeds on average per map and 1 seed per 24 harvests - this how the league function

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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T16s arent useless? You need Minimum ilvl 78 to Spawn the final boss

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Why would I care about the boss again?

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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So you run 1152 maps for a single influence exalt?

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Cause it Drops Special uniques?

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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The uniques are terrible

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all of them

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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?

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No u

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:18 AM

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And that fifa dude can talk how much he want, but dealing with people who make statement w/o backing it up since forever and next time you decide to share something better be prepared

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Honestly interested in the lighting resistance unique.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Give me one example of a good new unique

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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6L Helmet is pretty good

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Helmet with no life, no res

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insane item

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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The one thing I said before league started is that thr power of this stuff will depend on its rarity.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Literally gamebreaking

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Takes 30000 Divines to hit two good supports

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For a 6 link and some stats

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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You dont need Life and Res on absolutely every Item, this isnt 2015

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:19 AM

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So if targeted exalts are as rare as exalts, its kinda bad yea. Ofcourse I don't actually know how rare it is.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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I smell bs

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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I can start keep track of how many seeds I drop and how often I get the targeted exalt/annul.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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"You dont need life on items - btw this is my 2000 HP level 95 build. I die a lot poe Discord fix my build"

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"game is too hard I die all the time"

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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But from my experience I'm eventually just going to get bored after another 1k seeds of reforges.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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le may oh. give me a break

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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it definitely does not take over 1k maps to grow a T4 what the fuck

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Wallach calculate it and tell us your results

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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I'm not talking about growing a T4

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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mate I have a T4 and I only have 266 map tiers odne

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Biggest buff for me this league has been vulkan and the better performance templarLul

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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waggle already killed the final boss which takes 2 tier 4s

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how could you believe this

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Is the constant crashes without error log a feature too?

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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I've had 0 crashes.

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Who said a T4 takes 1k maps?

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Ok do we agree you take 12 seed on average per map?

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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And only a few bad/laggy instances.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I said it

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Or the invisible Sirus

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invisible storms, invisible everything

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I haven't tracked my average, but sure, we can say 12

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Invisible bosses have been annoying..

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Do we agree you take higher tier seed per 24 mobs?

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I couldn't stop lagging in sirus fight before so I'm looking forward to actually doing it this league.

primal whale Jun 22, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Now you have 1000 fps

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cause nothing is rendered in that zone

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:23 AM

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no 24 plants per next tier does not sound right

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I think I'm averaging 2 T2s per full square or thereabouts

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:25 AM

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24*24 = 576 T1 seed for 24 tier 2 seed. 576x24 = 13842 (tier 1 seed) 24 T3 seed which will net T4 seed and 13 842/12 (seed per map) = 1152

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:25 AM

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but again I haven't had much of a need

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:25 AM

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EVEN if you take 2 seeds on average per full (24) harvest you just divide the final number by 2

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:25 AM

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By 4

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Its squared brah

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Yea, yea /4

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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And thats ~260

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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288

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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I don't even know if I'm at 100 maps yet

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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241212/12 = 288

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Well that is seed number, you got some from leveling

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Which is roughly what that Guy ran

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266 Maps for a t4

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:27 AM

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like I think something is amiss here

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:28 AM

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There few Primal Blisterfruit posted (T4 seeds) between 20c and 1 ex

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Still even if its 200 maps AT BEST for 1 single exalt i won't call it rewarding or game breaking

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:29 AM

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I don't think it's even close to 200 maps

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like I said I have 266 tiers done

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Market value =/= rarity or Power

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:30 AM

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a T5 map adds 5 tiers

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I'm like just into yellows and I have a T4

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Ok i didn't count the 12 T3 profit in that

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Wallach i dont believe that, i am starting low red and have single T3 seed (haven't touch the garden till maps tho)

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:31 AM

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I mean I can just screenshot these two things

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but I've also streamed everything

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not something you get to argue

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Maybe you're both just engaging with the mechanic differently?

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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well I also don't think the drop rate of seeds is equal

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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There is not much to engage really, take seed - plan seed - harvest

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Drop rate of t1 seeds?

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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to date I have never harvested an entire square of T2s

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usually it's a much smaller number in that plot

rigid stream Jun 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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5-15 seeds per map

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Yea 12 i plant for T2

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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so I don't think the T2 plants drop seeds at the same rate

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Still feel the league mechanic is underpowered in term of reward

jagged surge Jun 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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”Chaos” spam with t1 seeds feels like the only consistency this league...

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:38 AM

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It is for sure is compared to Delerium.

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Talking about running X amount of maps and engaging constantly with a mechanic and doing a lot of setup for either a syntheis mod, locking a mod, or a influence craft.

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Just did x3 T1 harvest of 24 got 1 T2 seed in total, not sure x2 for 24 harvest is accurate, but ok w/e

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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When you could just run literally one Delerium map with minimal setup and prep and get enough currency to do any of that.

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Delirium was big speed big loot league.

jagged surge Jun 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Probably will see a buff to seed drop in the coming weeks

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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This is very much the opposite of that.

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Yeah, and I agree that this league could be less rewarding.

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But it's such a polar opposite that it's difficult to swallow.

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Eh, its day 3/4 only.

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:42 AM

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my guess is they up the rate on T2 seeds

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to me it sounds like people are sifting through too many T1 crafts

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Delirium wasn't as good as it now compared to the same time last league.

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:42 AM

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when for the most part they are T2 food

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Maybe up the chances for better t1 crafts too?

oblique falcon Jun 22, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Despite all being said i really feel like playing std (not that i have ever played it)

void wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:43 AM

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It's hard to make calls not knowing the base rates.

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:43 AM

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yeah, if they can put target exalt an annuls on the map it would be a decent league imo

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Make some actually great gear which is what was advertised.

eager terrace Jun 22, 2020, 7:44 AM

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you definitely seem to stop seeing those once you get to maps

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at least from the T1 harvests

opaque galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Though a big issue IMO is that this mechanic becomes almost entirely irrelevant to your late game progression as you get the end game gear you wanted.

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Without anything to fight or interact with, this mechanic will quickly feel pointless no matter how powerful of gear it can make you.