1┃mirage-league

[mental nimbus]

Is there a good example of when you would use it

[hidden holly]

if you want the restored unique?

thats literally it, it changes the unique from the afarud version to the maraketh version

[drifting crown]

They shouldn't and they won't

[hidden holly]

i could see an argument for wanting to get them on a vaal skill but getting a free support gem and a level 21 would be bad

like if there was a coin that corrupts a gem into its vaal version with a random support gem or something

if you wanna change the unique

you can look them up on poedb or the wiki

[mental nimbus]

oooh ok

i thought they ment it reverts them back to magic versions

[hidden holly]

you can just watch the league trailer and it tells you all this stuff?

or like google it

https://youtu.be/y8X5MC5gdzA

oop wrong video

https://youtu.be/zFzHf3etCTA

[mental nimbus]

thank you

[civic jolt]

does the mob that drop black barya spawn randomly in map? or is there a condition for him to spawn?

[merry jacinth]

anyone here doing holystrike in endamge

[scarlet sun]

love getting tft carries

[pulsar burrow]

awakened inc aoe gem dosn't exist anymore

what gem is replacing this?

[finite whale]

How does one get the new unique belt?

[pulsar burrow]

https://poedb.tw/us/Exceptional reading it right now, hmm

the fk, nothing replaces awakened increased area of effect gem

there is nothing similar at all, same for awakening burning damage or awakened elemental focus

wtf?????

[fierce plank]

Do we need to go to forums and submit a bug since here in discord we dont have room for it ? Passive : Twist of fate doesnt work when certain corrupted maps are in use, there is no error message it simply nothing happens, there are no portals for map ?

[agile hemlock]

Yea, they didn't want the exceptionals to just be strict upgrades except multistrike for some reason

[pulsar burrow]

this is dumb and bs, minmaxing rf got completely gutted

[hard egret]

hello how much it's worh ?

[stoic falcon]

where are mercenaries, im lookin for the of infamy mod

[bright arch]

gone

of infamy mods currently arent aviable in league

[stoic falcon]

cap im lookin at someone with an infamy mod

apparently can drop from exiles in mirage?

[bright arch]

hm? idk about that, i guess

maybe even from syndicat members

[vestal escarp]

KF totems feel gud

almost at level 90 already

[manic kernel]

https://www.twitch.tv/zizaran/clip/FrigidDeterminedSkirretRiPepperonis-HU46nC8U-syW2DaH

[reef peak]

Are foulborn items still a thing ? And if so how do I search them on the trade ?

[tall plover]

Yes, you can filter by the mod

[copper raven]

Have we discovered where the free 5L pops up from the mirage mechanic?

[reef peak]

Ohhhhh im Blind thank you guys ❤️

[nimble ivy]

But there are some with multiple versions so by mod is easier for those

Cause sometimes you'll have 1 foulborn version that's like 5 div and another that's like 2c and you'll never see the expensive version if you don't filter by the mod

[tall plover]

It is one of the wishes, just talk to the npc each time you see her, you don't have to complete the mirage if you don't like the choice

[pure raft]

Could anyone help me kill a t14 memory map boss real quick? cant quite seem to deal enough damage

[copper raven]

Does it only become available past a certain point in the campaign? If so, do we know what point that is yet?

[tall plover]

Act 1-2 have orbs of binding (free 4-links), act 5-6 is probably where I'd start looking for a 5-link there

[copper raven]

Word thanks

[vestal escarp]

damn it seems like there's zero good exceptional gems for Kinetic Fussillade totems

[simple shore]

yo its been 3 days and there isnt a single asenath's chant on trade?

[sterile atlas]

Should you not be looking for asenath's mark? Chant went legacy ages ago.

[simple shore]

oh

dam im stupid, forgot mark has the trigger on bow att now

[vestal escarp]

can a brother get an exceptional gem that works on totems that isn't ass

[scarlet sun]

did they nerf the box scarab farm? im not seeing them in mirages

[clever quartz]

Need help - what crop is best for shipments? i just completed a 15k blue zanthium shipment, and it returned ALL shields. did they swap the rewards?

[simple shore]

yes ores are currencies now

crops are equips

[clever quartz]

oh interesting.

in that case what ores should i go for and does smelting it before shipping make the rewards better

[simple shore]

smelting increases the value of the ores and it depends on which port wants wat

[mental nimbus]

how do i gain access to exarch and shaper in this new atlas

[simple shore]

go all the way to the corners

[clever quartz]

corner maps

[mental nimbus]

ohhhh ok thanks guys

[covert coyote]

are divine fragments bugged? i am not getting them back

so i cant get the soul for the pantheon

[hollow osprey]

Gonna try Smite Slayer next

Idk how good it is

Oh wait no, I mean Static Strike Slayer

[spice locust]

can anyone help me test if u can search for specific valdo items on trade, map completion reward doesnt work for me

[plush coyote]

i know that in one future league theres gonna be reliquarian mageblood with 1 flask

[vestal escarp]

NANI?

[steady sedge]

Can minion builds run Expedition farm?

[sonic field]

fully juiced expedition hits real hard so make sure your minions are tanky

[fierce rivet]

Anyone have a decent tip for Kingsmarch this league? I assume its mappers over crops but maybe the tattoos arent that bad/unprofitable

[deep glen]

what farming strats is everyone doing?

[umbral plover]

killed maven and maven 10 boss invitation so what i am missinge here ??

[fierce rivet]

ultimatum and its real nice

[deep glen]

have u got a link to the strat? 🙂

[umbral plover]

duh ultimatum need tanky lad

[pine shell]

I did shitton of ultimatum last league n it was shit. Cws chieftain build that I really liked though

[jade field]

Do the mirage frogs have some secret to them, or is it just a filler option for funsies?

[hollow osprey]

Imagine if its one Unique flask

[prime tree]

one slot is unlocked by completing a nightmare map, the other by completing a maven 10 boss invite. probably a ui issue

[brittle bobcat]

The display can be a bit odd like the fella above here suggests as it reveals left to right, you are probably short on progression for another condition like the NM maps.

[alpine fulcrum]

anyone know ifi t's better to craft a big ES chest from a 6L base or to just try to roll using tree?

[umbral plover]

what is a nighmare map ??

[plush coyote]

t17

[umbral plover]

though t17 were removed

so they just get renamed ??

[prime tree]

they are just called nightmare maps now

they are also t16 now

[frank pike]

are the bossfights as difficult as they were before?

or slightly easier since only t16?

[prime tree]

haven't tried one yet, but wasn't hp scaling kinda silly as in t16 would be half the hp of t17 or something?

[deep glen]

whats the best wand for kb build?

kinetic?

[umbral plover]

this mf one tapped me like 4 times damn rares are more scary than end game boses

[thin ginkgo]

Classic soul eater

[ocean spoke]

damn, i wish that we could tp to someones hideout to async trade straight from a map instead of having to portal back to hideout first... make it so hard to fight against bots on good deal items 💀

[iron flicker]

how often do cord belts drop from blight

[tranquil osprey]

yeah i have done a bunch and so far nothing

[pulsar burrow]

You need to do more damage and lower your health even more, go full mathil build with 2k life if a white mob touch you, you explode

[marsh wagon]

can i ask for what to upgrade and link pob here? Or is that build planning?

[umbral plover]

i killed him just by running from him and poping totems

feel sorry for melee

[upper dragon]

so i just had a thought, i heard that if you ban mechanics on the atlas it'll try and put your prioritized ones closer to the mirage. what happens if you ban all of them? does the mirage end up closer to the boss?

[ivory lintel]

How tp unlock the extra scarab slot? I did maven 10 boss as per quest its still lock

[brittle bobcat]

See this above: #1┃mirage-league message

[gloomy bay]

Got to maps and was planning to transition from Arma into Penance brand but I literally ID’d this in the first map Kirac handed to me

Guess I stick with Arma brand until like I get Uber Lab done

[idle jewel]

welp, looks like i got wrong half of essence

[reef peak]

Hey guys 👋🏻 anyone knows if I can you coins to reroll imbued supports ? Or do I have to level a new skill gem ?

[smoky geyser]

8 not 10 is my guesd

[pastel void]

when do the majority of the player base land in t16 map/ atlas complete?

[smoky geyser]

week 2

[pastel void]

damn so I need to wait till around that for some of the uniques to die down in price 😭

[smoky geyser]

evryone on this server is top 10% and isnt that majority

[pastel void]

eh probally considering like 40 percent of the players prob dont hit maps

[smoky geyser]

coin lv 1 20 quality, corrupted means ypu can np longer apply anything to the item

[reef peak]

Ohh I can slam level 1s somehow had in mind they had to be 20😅

Thanks

[smoky geyser]

lv 12s in act 1-5 or all in library

[brittle bobcat]

Coins require level 20 gems.

@reef peak ^

[smoky geyser]

ty for the info^^

[winter elk]

does anyone know if this node works with fusliade?

[echo oyster]

mrow

[smoky geyser]

you need - skill eff duration from the real one

[winter elk]

ahhh, thank you

[reef peak]

So you do need a 20/20 gem and then pray to get the right support 😅

[brittle bobcat]

Requirements are 20/whatever, but 20q is probably useful if you want the quality post-corruption 😄

Gambling with coins requires quite some stock to feed from, it seems.

[outer pagoda]

Where you get the coin support stuff.

[rocky glacier]

Is the correct betrayal strategy still asiling in research

and everyone else in a different area

[smoky geyser]

bruh this lab

[brave sigil]

whats the deal with higher quality stuff dropping in maps? i dont remember getting 25% qual items in regular maps in previous leagues

is that just a normal part of the drop pool now? superiors up to 30%?

[bright sable]

This has always been in the normal drop pool

[native osprey]

ehh always is a long time its been there since they removed quality from betrayal with the revamp

which was in the last 2 years so not even in the ballpark of always

[brave sigil]

hmm weird... i mean i've played the last couple leagues and somehow never noticed

[native osprey]

they were pretty rare, a good 30q twilight was many divines

[brave sigil]

I see :)
Thanks!

[native osprey]

[green remnant]

Your filters might have been hiding alot of them except the very rare high quality ones

Like iirc i think the stricter filters will hide below 24%

[iron flicker]

does it matter what quadrant i put my astrolobe in like does it give diff rewards in a different quadrant?

[true pewter]

same problme

[iron token]

I need some advice. Anyone know if I should go for 6 absolution sentinels or 6 spectres?

Gonna farm for the dark monarchs helmet

[upper dragon]

got the threads of the originator going and its already profit by the 2nd map.

[bright arch]

theres different rewards for completing an astrolab depending on the quadrant

[nova sail]

im losing my shit against the boss in burial chamber wtf man

[iron flicker]

is there anywhere i can see the rewards?

[nocturne wedge]

Do the voidstones only work per quadrant? If so, whats the deal with getting all 4?

[iron flicker]

more nightmare map drop chance

[nocturne wedge]

Ahh okay, thank you!

[bright arch]

they arent fully documented on the wiki yet and i also cant find much info on the memory vaults atm

[obtuse tiger]

Why does bane not leech?

[brittle bobcat]

Most of the mods are per-quadrant but some are across all quadrants, like the ones that differ for each stone.

[nova sail]

am i just blind or what? where do i put the writhing and polaric invitations? ive tried everywhere and nothing works

[brittle bobcat]

Hunger is along the bottom middle edge of the southwest quadrant.

[bright arch]

cause you can only leech from hit dmg, bane has no hit damage

[brittle bobcat]

If you rightclick the invitation in your inventory it may focus the camera where it is.

[bright arch]

not if its in the fog of war i think, that really needs to be changed

[nova sail]

i see thanks

[chrome osprey]

is the raise all skillgem level button bugging for anyone else?

[granite perch]

if a deposit turns into lost shipment it doesnt show up in mirage even as a deposit, anyone know if this is intended?

[obtuse tiger]

Damn that’s very unfortunate. Most of my dmg comes from bane lol

[green remnant]

Its one of the drawbacks of such dot builds like blight etc too. Have to find other ways to sustain

[hot berry]

when I thought GGG cant surprise me

[sonic field]

lmao, apparently they drop their loot too

[hot berry]

Minotaur got incarnation of dread and 2 sirus to help

cause maven spawned two extra map bosses with Gauntlet keystone

[sonic field]

oh lol, thats somewhat a dest play buff

[dawn breach]

You wished for terror

And you got it

[sonic field]

we can run feared in normal maps now pog

[grim sapphire]

Anyone run Absolution for early acts of campaign? Like 1-4?

[ocean spoke]

Hey guys, is this thing permanent like i buy it once and its effective for ever kinda like a voidstone or it has X durability and after it goes poof?

[tepid arch]

It has durability you'll see it fast enough

[ocean spoke]

Oh ok got it.

What you mean by i will see it fast enough? Those drops quite often or what?

[tepid arch]

Its just that

[ocean spoke]

because at 60c each im not going to buy any as i already have 100% chance of ritual from my tree 😮

[tepid arch]

When you complete a map inside the quadrant, other maps get buffed, but the map you just completed loses the buff

[ocean spoke]

oh

[tepid arch]

Rituals in the maps get random buffs for each map completed

[ocean spoke]

I see

that seems pre good then 😮

[tepid arch]

At the end you get a vault from eagon iirc

[ocean spoke]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[tepid arch]

(When all maps are complete)

[ocean spoke]

ence the high end price atm

[tepid arch]

These are probably always gonna be pricy

But worth it if you juice enough

[ocean spoke]

yeah for sure

still not sure if it adds enough to ritual to be really worth it tho, but ill def test it atleast 1 or 2 and figure out by myself 😄

Thanks alot for the info i do really appreciate ! 🙂

[tepid arch]

You're welcome !

[sage scroll]

The Celestial Brace
Goliath Gauntlets
how does people farm it?

[vapid topaz]

is gold included in currency?

[flat depot]

is the new static strike gem any good? thinking about making a build for it

[prime tree]

in what context? stuff like 100% more currency found in area? afaik no, gold is kinda its own thing

[vapid topaz]

ye mirage stuff, ty

[sonic field]

gold has its own separate wish

[vapid topaz]

ty

[distant pollen]

I made the biggest mistake making a build that requires the Lycia Bloodline. I loathe Sanctum and I build actually good defenses on my character so I don't have to dodge EVERY SINGLE projectile ever. Sanctum is just an insta-gib player's wet dream.

I could probably do it a bit better... if I had the Lycia bloodline to actually get the node to scale my damage, but that's a catch 22 because I can't do it until I do it.

[rough oracle]

How rare is greater fork from 5way?

in a priv league so have to farm it myself

[sage scroll]

delve good for farming now?

or just boxes the best one

[distant pollen]

Not currently. Bugged pathing.

[sage scroll]

damn

[distant pollen]

Once they fix that, we can actually test and see....

[scarlet sun]

is this still bugged or did they fix it?

[sage scroll]

what exactly is the bug?

[coral gyro]

When will the new scarabs be added to poeninja and awakaned?

[sonic field]

its in "worked on"

[distant pollen]

They claim some nodes aren't pathable. To me, it feels like your map that you have and the map that is shown are of two different seeds, so you have to blindly try to click on nodes. After trying several nodes and not being able to travel I just gave up.

[sage scroll]

oh

[agile dawn]

What's the difference?

[vapid topaz]

guys what button do u use to denotate mines? D seems bad

[prisma cliff]

why lootfilter doesn work: GENERAL-HIGHLIGHT SPECIFIC BASES:

[drifting crown]

You link Automation yo Detonate Mines.

[vapid topaz]

m not sure i understand what u mean

[drifting crown]

You don't detonate mines manuallly, you link Detonate Mines gem to Automation gem to fo it automatically

[vapid topaz]

ah okay
1- at what act is that gem available
2- i'll do that once i get a 4 link

[drifting crown]

I think you can get Automation from Siosa in Act 3 Library

[hot quail]

What do you mean it REQUIRES it?

[distant pollen]

If you're being pedantic about the word requires, your username fits your attitude perfectly.

In other words to leverage the build mechanics that I created to actually scale to significant DPS, I need the lycia node that converts lightning to chaos.

[agile hemlock]

Can't you cope with the foulborn jewel, or is the build using both already?

[languid prism]

does anyone else's fps drop when near people in town?

[quaint island]

day 2 over as a new player, finished maps now to do my crafting tomorrow!

[thick roost]

Anyone else server rip for EU?

[high rain]

anyone crashing a lot more this league?

[pale matrix]

Does anyone know when POB updating holy hammer?

[prime tree]

haven't crashed yet. disconnects, a lot on day 1 and 2.

there are some known crashes related to the breach walls i think?

[high rain]

hmmm, i say crashing but its actually the POE2 workaround the devs added where it freezes for 10 seconds then creates a new session in the background and resumes the game

i heard thats gpu related so im curious

[brittle bobcat]

if( crash ) dont();

[frank pike]

Hour 1 me and almost all of my guild mates crashed cuz MTX bug in towns would cause everyone in the town at that moment to crash

[atomic gull]

short question?

wy is it cheaper to run uber uber elder than normal uber elder?

[coarse bridge]

what tier map is silo?

[true pewter]

is valdo map on trade search dead?

[agile hemlock]

The price is probably based on voidstone carries, and UE voidstone carries are easier, so more demand.

[upper dragon]

now i know my build of KF isn't the best but when i can still almost instakill normals and i see this tank, i have no choice but to nope out

though still surprised its managed to get me to T16 maps this quickly on SSF, i haven't been playing THAT much.

[quaint seal]

Is there a better feeling than sixlinking a body armour on the first fusing?

[summer bone]

Does the divine font of a basic lab - transfigured of same colour guarantee the transf version of the gem placed? I happened to get lacerate of haem by using lacerate and double strike of something by using double strike.

[nocturne kite]

Yes, loads. First time it's ever happened to me, I'm starting to worry about hardware faults lol

[quaint seal]

theres a specific one that transfigures the exact skill you're using, its rare

[summer bone]

So using lacerate actually does not guarantee 1 of 3 result to be lacerate of something?

[nocturne kite]

Nope, it's random

[upper dragon]

its basically 1/however many of that gem colour has a transfigured gem

[summer bone]

Ok. I see. It just so happened that both uses of the font have the transf version of my placed gem

[severe plume]

if i don't have maven discovered on my atlas, can i still drop the voidstone if someone carries me?

[scarlet sun]

did ggg adress the problem where faustus sometimes bugs and you cant place any orders unil you logout?

[prime tree]

16

[upper dragon]

any ideas on why i can't buy arcanist brand? it just doesn't seem to appear in my shops. pretty sure i've done every quest, and i've been maps for a while

[prime tree]

are you checking lilly's shop? it's in the int support gems tab

[upper dragon]

oh right its support 👍 brain went derp

[delicate needle]

is there some way to accidentally prevent big bosses from spawning into unstable breach? did like 15 and still ahvent gotten one

[mint ledge]

Is there a way to see which Genesis tree body parts are still missing?

[mental nimbus]

can the coins destroy your gem or no?

[steep sable]

Is there a guide for flicker strike that works early or should I focus on a different build first then pivot into it? I never tried flicker strike before and wanted to give it a try and follow Magefist on YT

[unreal veldt]

What does that big ass hourglass do in the mirage?

[rose dragon]

gives dust

got like 40k when i got it, but was in not rly juiced map

[mental nimbus]

can the coins upgrade to level 21

[gloomy vector]

what is happening to delve chart? it just keep covering everything with black, sometimes partially and sometimes full chart is black, if i zoom out it fixes temporarily but then happen again. is it just me?

like this

[rich needle]

ok real question; am at work but i couldnt figure out how to use the writhing invitation. how does that work nowadays? back in my day you used to just slam it into the map device. but now i cant do that anymore

[pearl mortar]

do essences have any exclusive drops in mirage?

[pulsar patio]

any1 know where is my last atlas point o.o

[pulsar creek]

fuckass trade site crashed?

[fiery kernel]

seems like

time to actually play the game

[honest egret]

so a weird thing
i defered something in ritual
then next map i had a ritual and a mirage with a ritual
and that defered item showed up in both normal and mirage shops, and i could get it from both shops

[sonic field]

we duping charge rings now?

[honest egret]

apparently

sad it was just some random crap i defered just to use up the rest of tribute

[static geyser]

faustus wont let me put items into him

anyone else got this bug?

[honest egret]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[static geyser]

tried restarting game, but nope

[devout grail]

Yeah happens im not sure what to do to fix

[void kindle]

https://poedb.tw/us/Atlas_of_Worlds you can see it's towards the bottom, next to siege

[rich needle]

Ah yes I see it! So i first got to do the maps to get there to unlock it? 🙂 thanks!

[void kindle]

yeah, the atlas has lots of little spots on it you have to reach to unlock certain things now

which is sorta neat and sorta a little annoying, but hey, it's new

[boreal glade]

i have no idea what to farm

what are you guys doing

[upper dragon]

i'm in ssf so atm i'm going to essences then into blight cause some nodes are a bit close, once/if i manage to start getting voidstones and the second set of atlas passives, i might go legion

[strange leaf]

Blight building currency then delve for fun. Haven’t really don’t done it much so I figure with the fossil changes I will try it

[clever saddle]

i suppose wealthy exile doesnt have mirage league data yet?

[stray stream]

how juicy is the endgame, for an ssf player? with keepers as 0, and mercenaries as 10

[mortal igloo]

Bro where do i place voidborn key at 💀 ive been looking for like 10 minutes

[rose dragon]

Next to maven I think?

[sterile solar]

twist of fate doesnt work for anoyone else?

[noble linden]

anyone wanna do nameless seer send me a dm

[fervent drum]

help, how to use it, dont saw any where to put it in atlas

[proper pendant]

Guys , why cna;t I go to the next lvl like the box on the right

No matter how many yimes I click on it it doe snothing

[unreal veldt]

What is dust used for. Man I really should read league mechanics 😭

[rose dragon]

recombi, ship

[slow ruin]

go to hideout, back to mine then try again

currently a bug ggg is investigating

[proper pendant]

Oo , ok , I was suspicious as It let me go to the left with no issues . Ty

[unreal veldt]

Ahh that dust. Ok thought it was like a new dust mechanic. Thanks!

[daring crypt]

anyone else who gets the instance crash thing upon entering a area every other map or so ?

[agile dawn]

i hate this guy

[jagged tulip]

If you're using puncture or have puncture in your manaforged arrows setup, that is the cause. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3917303

[wispy smelt]

omg god bless you I thought it was mtx turned it all off.. I am indeed running that

so I should just take that out I don't even need it anymore anyway

[jagged tulip]

Please reply to the bug report so that it gets noticed

[arctic imp]

Hello!? Fucking, HELLO, how in the absolute hell have network issue not been sorted yet, god damn 😄

[upper dragon]

anyone do the mirage boss yet? i got a black barya but i haven't even done eater and exarch yet, compared to them how hard is it?

[vestal escarp]

Its day 3, relax

[wispy smelt]

I will have to do that when I get off work but I will thanks!

[arctic imp]

I know, that's my point.

Don't think the people working on bugfixes is also working on sorting funky network with providers, otherwise new hires are needed

[timber crown]

They dont work during the weekend iirc

Or barely do

[arctic imp]

Gives Ultimatum flashbacks

[drifting crown]

It's there for NTR fans

[ornate flower]

is it normal to not get mirage boss or corrupt coins I think they are ninja nerfed Im 92 lol

[vestal escarp]

Seems like coins are a t16 thing tbh

Haven't seen a mirage for them in Whites or Yellows

[alpine magnet]

is delve map bugged?

can't click on many nodes

[potent spindle]

Sadly yes. For me works leaving the mine and going back in. Also I think not moving the delve node map helps not getting this bug. But not sure if this is the problem.

[obtuse tiger]

can anyone explain how this build has so much armor? Do the armor% passives really give you that much or am i missing something https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/edrarven-0959/EdrarvenPenanceBurn

[amber iron]

https://pobb.in/9U4PvcrMhfCb any help for upgrades next other than 6link

[stable cave]

Anyone know what this immunity is or if this just means that branch can drop mirage items or something?

[regal storm]

Mirage related

[stable cave]

is that more or less all we know right now? I assumed it was mirage related as it's only in the mirage areas but I was wondering what it does or adds

[upper dragon]

i wonder when i'll be comfortable enough in my build to run this.....

[regal storm]

Think it's just mirage related drops

[wary orbit]

how rare are these ? ive been playing forever and this is the first one i found

[stable cave]

what are you referring to?

[wary orbit]

the hourglass

[upper dragon]

the hourglass? i think it just depends on luck if any ores overlap with the mirage

[wary orbit]

ohh, ive had it blocked for a while. makes sense

[sonic stirrup]

Forever? 3 days?

They were added this league

[bright peak]

How is the league? I heard they're planning some fixes for auto losing summons, any idea when it is done?

[scarlet sun]

self sustaining

[rancid gate]

any1 got a spare Flammability gem ?

[dreamy light]

Anyone doing kf totems? How are they?

[arctic imp]

Insane.

[harsh pilot]

idk if any dev reads this but i entered the mirage and the portal spawn on top of a verisium ore thingy and i cant exit the mirage

[sonic stirrup]

If you want devs to read you make a bug report

Probably also with a /bug

For context

[smoky geyser]

[short blade]

does anyone know where the volatile vaal orbs drop from? Is it in the mirage from the Afruud mobs, is it something new from Atziri, or what?

[devout badger]

what build is good early game?

[coral gyro]

How do you unlock the last scarab slot? It says maven 10 boss invitation but i did 2 already and its still locked

[sonic stirrup]

You running Maven's invitation: The Atlas unlocked the other slot

You need to run a Nightmare Map for one slot

[main rose]

What content drops volatile vaal orbs?

[serene bear]

yoo, if anyone doing nightmare map can i get its completion pls?

i asked everywhere but no one responding

and why its says maven 10 boss complete? I have already done it several times

[bright arch]

visual bug

[serene bear]

thought so

[smoky geyser]

ggg please fix rucksack and add currency buttons to the maps so i can levfeclick craft them

[vale dew]

Hey all. I started playing PoE when PoE2 went into early access. This league is the first time I will be playing PoE1. Any recommendations for a good starting class that might be a bit more forgiving if I want to try and make my own build (I did hear that is a lot tougher in PoE1).

[agile hemlock]

Ranger is pretty straightforward IME.

[fierce plank]

No.. I have wrote several times and even opened topic on forum section bug fixes but no response.. I mean that node is giga important and I really dont understand how is it possible its not enabled 3rd day in league ? Seriously that doesnt make any sense. It seems people are not running it so much like other nodes such as Unvawering Vision which grants you 20 passives, imagine that doesn't work on start of the league for 3 days.. like instant riots lol

[neat carbon]

server fell over again?

[viral bough]

rip paris

[severe quail]

rip start of containtment map

[onyx helm]

man i sure love this league

[severe quail]

oh its alive

[sharp nova]

Anyone else running Crop Rotation unable to actually get the Crystalised Rancour to show up?

[onyx helm]

well its something, grats

[vapid topaz]

is automation the gem skill that denotates the mines on their own?

[sonic stirrup]

what

detonate mines is a skill granted by all mine skills and also the gem detonate mines

you can support detonate mines with automation if you want to

[vapid topaz]

what is the gem that makes the mines i throw detonate automatically

[sonic stirrup]

it's not "a gem"

it's 2 gem

[vapid topaz]

this?

[sonic stirrup]

that's one of the two

[vapid topaz]

is the other one green?

[sonic stirrup]

it's white

[austere vessel]

Is there a trick to getting the unique to spawn to fight the new mirage boss? Does he just show up somewhere or do you need to break the chains or be in t16?

[olive iris]

Whats the best depth to find Aul? Never delved before and top results on google all say something different

[leaden cloak]

there isn't a "best", just a "now has a chance to spawn, with greater depth increasing the chance"

so "best" is the deepest your build can go, but that doesn't consider the time it took to get there

[olive iris]

ty will keep going down then

[mystic parrot]

I need help to get 10k gold to complete my build so i can farm more gold

[lilac dock]

Was there a djinn related item that allowed you to double corrupt uniques, or i hallucinated something in sleep?

Like i can remember i saw something like this, but i can't find it, so now i'm thinking if i am a moron

[worn abyss]

anyone with some free time for a boss kill? i could need some help with Whakawairua Tuaha, and i prefer not to lose the portal as its a unique map

[young knoll]

how do you 20% skill gems now? i used GCP on a lvl 20 in vendor it not workgin

[high fossil]

Are you thinking of the coins of restoration and desecration? Transforming faridun uniques to their maraketh counterparts or back again?

Pretty confident there's no double-corrupt outside of the temple of atzoatl

[lilac dock]

I am almost sure someone pinged item that stated it allows double implicit on uniques on chat,

but yet again, i have no proof and couldn't find it on wiki or anywhere else, so i quess i might have stupid

[brittle bobcat]

Are you aware of the change two years ago where it now only flips supports?
Which gem are you trying to flip?

[solar tendon]

Is scarab vendoring strat good like last league?

[trail fractal]

what best for aurabot champion or scion?

[high fossil]

There is also the volatile vaal orb, which doesn't do double implicits but can scale the values of random mods on unique items beyond their usual limits

If it's not that, then yeah, you may have just been dreaming about PoE and made some stuff up

[lilac dock]

Might be it

[sharp roost]

Are the djinn coin incubators bugged? just finished two and they both dropped nothing

not under the filter either

[young knoll]

level 20 abolution

[vestal escarp]

what are good kinetic fusillade imbuements?

[vestal escarp]

there's an orb in poe 2 that works like this, nothing in poe 1 so far

[high fossil]

Yeah, you can't use the vendor recipe on skill gems, only support gems. You'll have to add quality to Absolution using GCPs or the Divine Font at the end of the Labyrinth

[young knoll]

gotcha

[brittle bobcat]

Skill gem flipping was removed fully in 3.23, only most supports since.

It probably coincided with the new font as quality gems became something more desirable then.

[young knoll]

i see

[brittle bobcat]

Interesting.

[sharp roost]

incubating a 3rd, will report back on its contents

[junior iris]

i saw it pinged too but i forgot the name and it's not on currency exchange

[brittle bobcat]

Look out for a big chunk of gold when it pops, might be what happens.

[proper orchid]

😳

[sharp roost]

Oh is gold an outcome? Then it's possible I saw just instantly picked it all up

[vestal escarp]

vaal noice

[lilac dock]

Is otesha the giantslayer pantheon bugged? I'm doing this map 3rd time with vessel, and nothing

Is it on other map, or?

[high fossil]

They're going to move it to Beach, but haven't yet

Because that map has 3 possible bosses (if i'm reading the wiki right), you might have to run it multiple times to get the right one

[brittle bobcat]

Ah, warbands.

[gentle grove]

Why is there no info post league start on static strike of gathering lightning

Ijwk if the skill is good or bad. If it's bad I wanna reroll a new build. Also is it better on warden or slayer

[high fossil]

The hotfix to move it to Beach has just gone through, apparently

[timber crown]

Does breach change in anyway with the mirage mechanic?

[swift ferry]

Divine blast has been unexpectedly delightful what a amusing shield skill they made.

[leaden cloak]

Mathil's running it right now on Warden if you want to check that out

[harsh depot]

Is there a way to search for specific imbues onthe trade site?

[royal dove]

Breach Tree birthed this. LOL

[timber crown]

Bruh

[royal dove]

Too bad the base is not t1

[harsh depot]

lol; had to refresh the page - must have been added sometime after I opened that tab XD

[verbal crest]

does anyone know how to search for the 4 mod logbooks on trade? I have tried # of modifiers 4, doesnt work. I tried # of implicits 4, didnt work. anyone know?

[scarlet sun]

so many great choices i dont know what to pick

[twin fjord]

Did they ever add a regular vendor to the MTX Djinn you get from Twitch subs?

[timber crown]

What are some rare wishes that are must haves?

I dont want to miss once by accident

[hardy oracle]

Fortune smth i got 100k gold from it

[vestal escarp]

how hard is Saresh in comparison to, say, Esh and Tul?

[sour solstice]

what is like the highest dmg builds in mirage 3.28?

[verbal crest]

probably molten strike of the zenith at high end

[sour solstice]

really just wanna get a build i can scale to oblivion

[verbal crest]

yes that is zenith correct

there is a reason the highest delver has played it the last 4 leagues

[sour solstice]

haha lol

[verbal crest]

just look up onemanaleft on youtube and go from there

[topaz jay]

Steve?

[verbal crest]

ya

[topaz jay]

I was wondering where he went

[sour solstice]

what even is that delve stuff?

im kinda newjust played last 2 leagues

[topaz jay]

Get juice for the old man at the mine, go down and get fossils to make custom crafting currency

[verbal crest]

deep delve is the literal hardest content in the game because it keeps scaling way past anything you can get in maps the deepr you go

[drifting hornet]

do people sell aul kills?

[sour solstice]

sounds insanely tuff tbh

[verbal crest]

its not hard unless you go really deep, you stay in the top 300 levels its pretty chill

[topaz jay]

It scales to be, but early delve is chill. it will scale more as you go deeper and deeper. Think of poe2 atlas but as a league mechnics

[sour solstice]

thats like stuff u can challenge urself with friends whoever gets deeper

[sour solstice]

ahhh okay

[topaz jay]

Expect even delve is more fun then the entire atlas in poe2... imo

[sour solstice]

haha

will try it definitely thx for helping

[topaz jay]

If you are new, go blight or breach for endgame. They are pre easy to understand and can make just as much as any others. Heist can be really good too though

[sour solstice]

was wondering what to farm yeah

[queen cedar]

they do, but there's not much of a point in selling deep aul kills. just delving for aul and fighting him doesn't take a super crazy build.

[marsh wagon]

I personally like delve more than anything else. Just looting stuff from the mines feels good

Delve seems easier to do cos no need to understand scarab and juicing. It's simple, need more loot go deeper.

@sour solstice hope u enjoy it. Blowing up walls and wiping out cities is a great feeling

[sour solstice]

Thx bro just need to get my hands on a cool build now

I was trying to do a 6man party build but didnt know what that meant and now i understand why my build does not work in any way without aurabots or stuff like that

[weak juniper]

best way to farm currencies? I have Lightning build

[torn ether]

servers are soooo annoying!

[abstract pulsar]

did they remove elder guardians? i dont see them on the atlas

nvm im stupid i forgot you can run thoses on any map

[wooden dew]

Any help with my pconc build would be greatly appreciated
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/mike99-3342/character/ElectrixksMirage

I am farming 8 mod maps and still get blown up a lot, have about 20 div I can spend just not sure where to put it to make the build tankier

[candid solar]

whoa disconnect op

rip cal server

[river sonnet]

is it a texas angle

[dreamy ginkgo]

They REMOVED T17???

[brittle bobcat]

Revised into Nightmare maps.

[royal siren]

What is mine build advantage over lets say ranger bow build?

I feel kinda jebaited, so far have 0 dps 0 survi and 0 map clear

[marsh wagon]

Pohx rf better than I expected. Dps is terribad compared to my past leagues but the clear is stable. Ended up getting currency more reliably.

That explosion is doing all the dmg

[topaz jay]

Yes, most people hated them. T16 , memory strands and the new globes make up for it

[soft edge]

My character and her Dire Pole. I don't think I can get rid of this weapon I crafted. Name alone forbids me.

[tight zealot]

should i keep going with penance brand of dissipation Inquisitor, or should I switch over to RF Chief or another league starter

[inland cairn]

Just completed the campaign and can't get map device to work
Can anyone help me out

[high fossil]

Did you run the quest map from Kirac, and talk to him afterwards?

[inland cairn]

I just picked up the quest from him I went to the map device and it just brings up the atlas without any way to place a map in it to activate

[high fossil]

Click on one of the 4 little blue circles, those are the t1 maps

Around the edges of the central circle

[inland cairn]

Thank you you are a godsend

[marsh wagon]

I really like new map system. No longer need to hunt for rare specific maps

[white badge]

where are the infamous mod items acquired?

[high fossil]

In the past, since they were only available in Mercenaries league. Or you can trade for existing legacy items in Standard, but that's basically also the past

[white badge]

they're in the current league, apparently they drop from miraged exiles

[high fossil]

Huh, wild. Thanks for answering your own question, then

[winter bone]

peeps, I am genuinely confused… is pob not updated yet?

[high fossil]

You have to remember that every single person capable of updating pob is also desperately nolifing the league launch

So sometimes updates can be slow

[winter bone]

yeah thanks, just wanted to make sure, cus it was wild to see my char half broken in pob

[high fossil]

The tree is available from a beta version, you can opt into those

[brittle bobcat]

Current PoB from today has tree and gems and stuff.
Doesn't have imbued supports.

2.62.0, IIRC

Ninja is updated to the new PoB as well.

[brittle bobcat]

Probably run regular now, it's likely further ahead unless beta was pushed.

[winter bone]

also, as someone who missed past breach reworks, is it viable strat for juicing without being dependent on that breach tree (I really hate to interact with it)?

[solid sedge]

How rare are these coins that imbue your gems? I've been playing every day 6hrs most days and I haven't dropped one

[cedar mortar]

tul dissapear from arena

is this intended or bug?

[viscid blaze]

If my forbidden flesh is 10d and my flame is 30d, is it a price fixer special

[upper dragon]

be me: ssf get ventor's gambit only knowing it as one of the big rarity items.... -33% even adding in the native bonus tives a whopping -21%

and of course i had to let the bad luck continue by risking the black barya when i knew nothing about the fight

[alpine cairn]

are you guys lagging in server or is it just me?

[plucky violet]

aaaand server stability back to being shit. failed to load mirage instance

[sage scroll]

does it mean phys dmg is useless if i get on bow?

[unique bough]

i'm getting some weird sort of stutter, feels like network stutter rather than frame stutter though, anyone else got the same?

nvm fixed it, was my vpn

[dapper salmon]

Does anyone know why it has 10 links?

isnt 6 max?

[ornate plinth]

3 skills aren't active...

[odd gate]

how many have checkmarks

[haughty aspen]

is chance double damage modifier affect with totem build?

[dapper salmon]

how do i see that?

7

[odd gate]

by looking at the right side of your screenshot

[dapper salmon]

ye just noticed, but its still 7

[unique bough]

smite of divine judgement is doubled up in that second one for some reason

[dapper salmon]

So i just equip the first 6?

[haughty aspen]

just uncheck the same skill and you good

[unique bough]

both of those setups are for smite of divine judgement? i'm a bit of a noob too, dunno why it's made like that

[dapper salmon]

kinda unsure, apparantly its bens build or sum. and another rando made a step by step guide for noobs like me

[unique bough]

oh lol nice

[dapper salmon]

holy its late, i gotta sleep, I JUST noticed that theres two smite of divine judgements 🤣

[sonic field]

double smite is there on purpose to calculate double hit properly

[haughty aspen]

yeah he just confuse why its 7 link

[sonic field]

you set one to strike damage and the other to aoe dmg and include both in full dps calculation

[silk palm]

well

i dropped a mageblood

what build do i play now, was playing wocot mines, don't wanna do all the work of fixing my build for mageblood, would rather just start new

have about a 30div budget + the mageblood

[lucid stone]

pfor traps

[silk palm]

pfor?

[lilac dock]

Is there any reason to imbue automation gem?

Like, are there any downsides or any chance of positive outcome?
Never supported this skill

[rich needle]

Is this not where i go to fight/use my screaming invitation? it wont let me :<

[rose dragon]

click the bottom right node in circled area

[rich needle]

thanks! but nothing happens when i do

[viscid blaze]

you can also right click the map if im not mistaken

invitation*

[rich needle]

it zooms in on that very "map" location when i do but then nothing to start it

i feel silly. surely im missing something

[restive zealot]

how much is aul carry/taxi going for atm?

[brittle bobcat]

You don't seem to have the Eldritch Voidstone socketed in the socket above. IIRC, that comes from defeating both Searing Exarch and Eater of Worlds for the first time.

Got no idea how/where you run the quest versions of the fights.

[lucid stone]

purifying flame of revelation

[rich needle]

Cheers! it turns out the issue was the pathing towards this node. i went from the bottom, coming from the right side.

but the game wants you to path from the bottom left tier 1 path. Hope that makes sense 🙂

[brittle bobcat]

Not quite sure what you mean, the only node connected to the voidstone socket is Palace and the nodes in the atlas pocket are just connected in a diamond.

Ah, something weird if you entered the Southwest quadrant from the Southeast quadrant instead of connecting to the central T1 map?

This-like?

Looks in your screenshot like you had a path from the centre to Palace via Frozen Cabins -> Siege.

[rich needle]

yeah my path was the green one! But a path in the red needed to be completed. i only had to do 1 t12 map to make a path from tier 1 starting to the abscence path

after which the invite DID work

circled yellow. when i finished that map i was able to do the invite

[young knoll]

do you still take these atlas nodes when you're on T16s? and shaping the mountains?

[sage scroll]

what numbers do i input here to search for tier 1 or 2
spine bow

[sterile atlas]

You can, if you feel you need more map drops. Maps still attempt to drop at every tier. A T14 that can't drop due to your atlas contributes 1/9th of a future T16 drop. If it upgrades a tier, it'll contribute 1/3rd of a T16 instead.

[leaden cloak]

you have to take the average, so (low+high)/2. T1 fire is 165-225 to 335-390 on bows, so (165+335)/2 or 250 for your min

[craggy bolt]

yo any blaster in chat can help me with my feared in sc? 3 portals left and I couldnt do much.. its pretty beefed up

[tardy juniper]

The POB i'm looking at has a Vaal skill in a manaforged arrow setup. Can you manually activate the vaal version of the skill while manaforged arrow procs the regular?

[sterile atlas]

Sure. Vaal skills can't be triggered, so it won't be supported by manaforged.

[strange violet]

does it matter which one i would choose?

[prime tree]

anyone who has farmed the new breach ever found themselves having way too much graftblood to use for the amount of wombgifts you get?

[prime tree]

the color decides which type of coin the special mobs can drop.

[strange violet]

it depends on my build?

[prime tree]

blue > coin of knowledge. red > coin of power. yellow/white > coin of skill.

[prime tree]

if you want to use the coins yourself, yes. the coins add a random but suitable lvl1 support gem of the corresponding color to a skill gem. So, which color you want depends on what would be best for your skill.

you can also just buy the coins from other players and either pick the color that corresponds with the most expensive coin (so you can sell it instead) or you can just pick the option that gives you the best benefit, ignoring the color.

[vapid topaz]

isn't trap and mine support to work on exsanguate+mine?

[prime tree]

the support should work for exsang mines if that's what you mean

[frank pike]

i do believe it does?

[vapid topaz]

so why is the dps staying the same?

[strange violet]

thanks mate for info, ill just stick to blue ones since i play mage and its most expensive too

[frank pike]

is everything properly linked?

exang + trap and mine damage + the mine support gem?

[vapid topaz]

ah sorry it is linked, but it seems the UI was bugged yesterday

[bright hemlock]

anyone knows what side of atlas the wasteland is for mana cost craft?

[void oasis]

hello i have a question about bosses in delve do u have few chances to beat them or is it just 1 try

[brittle bobcat]

You have one try per attempt, if you lose you can rerun the whole segment with new sulphite.

Once you defeat them, the node is completed.

[void oasis]

ty ❤️

[autumn stirrup]

dam the scarabs be printing

[sage scroll]

do u guys fight aspirants 3x or just once in the last rooom

[sage scroll]

how much does it cost per run

[autumn stirrup]

I think i probably put in 3 chaos worth for this map. Im just farming strongboxes. Pretty cheap to run em.

[sage scroll]

ur not using any scarabs?

[autumn stirrup]

im using 3 ambush scarabs but ive farmed all of them myself. Maybe using 3 chaos worth of them.

[sage scroll]

nice

[hardy veldt]

hello, i bought merchants tab iam pre act 6 its not visible in my stash tab yet its all G?

[sage scroll]

which ambush scarab btw

[autumn stirrup]

merchants tab is in faustus you can access it by manage shop.

[hardy veldt]

ok. so ive to get to faustus first yes?

[autumn stirrup]

basic ambus, potency, compartments. and im also running all strongbox nodes in atlas.

[autumn stirrup]

Yeah im pretty sure you do need to get him. not exactly sure how it works maybe someone else knows better.

[sage scroll]

ok thanks ill probably also run boxes after campaign :)

[hardy veldt]

Okay thanks for info 🙂 Iill wait for someones response regardless

[autumn stirrup]

No worries and yeah boxes seem good. also ultimatum has been great but it needs a pretty strong build.

Then again if u spam ultimatum with mirage you eventually get the divine shrine buff and can just clear it without dying which means its just easy currency.

[sage scroll]

ultimatum is the one with the circle and round based?

[autumn stirrup]

Yeah.

[sage scroll]

i cant run that on my deadeye ill get oblitarated :)

[brittle bobcat]

Wiki suggests that you need Faustus from Act 6: https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Asynchronous_trading

And yeah, merchant's tabs are separate from your regular stash, so you won't see them until you can open your shop.

[autumn stirrup]

But yeah like i said u can get the divine buff from the mirage and clear it with that and you cant die with the buff.

But it can take time to get the ultimatum in the mirage and a divine buff lol

I have 100% knockback and freeze with the new belt and running glacial mines its just pretty broken as it freezes and knocks every enemy off the screen so i can just clear ultimatums pretty easily xD

[sage scroll]

righteous fire is good for ultimatum right?

[autumn stirrup]

Im not sure about that. I did RF in campaign but swapped right off when entering maps. I guess it could be pretty good for it.

[sage scroll]

probably

[rocky remnant]

It's not bad for it if you have explode

[frank pike]

RF is ehhh, you can get bursted a lot, with a life on block shield it's probably fine tho, but you can swap into CWS

dont try ulti on RF before getting a life on block shield and having 75/75 block

[torpid turtle]

Anyone else completely underwhelmed by holy strike after getting to higher tier maps?

I'm focussing on the minions themselves and well, i'm barely getting over a 1m dps with a decent amount of investment, not like 10's of divines or anything. But it feels like for a melee strike skill it should be doing more.

[frank pike]

the only good build with it was the semi RF-like version using lv30 infernal legion from that one unique

[frank pike]

this one

[naive prism]

rational doctrine price nearly doubled overnight😭 wtf

[torpid turtle]

Yeah i've seen that one

[astral pulsar]

Getting bored of absolution, I’m at 92. Should I switch to hroc or make a new build. Kinda want a map blaster

[covert coyote]

Fastest way to get golden oil in ssf?

[woeful flume]

Has anyone used the imbued gems on the corrupted lab invite?

Does it keep the imbue?

[worldly haven]

any1 can sell me offering of the goddess for 1 chaos

[frank pike]

probably go full blight atlas with extra map drop scarabs > drop blighted map > run it?

like there is one blight notable that gives chance to drop blighted maps

[upbeat rock]

you can also sell 3 oils for one a tier higher, so even if you dont drop one you will be able to combine your lower tier ones into one fairly fast

[kind sluice]

Does uber atizir count as a pinnacle boss for atlas points? I'm at 11/12 and cant think of who Im missing

Nvm I just didnt take the reward from Kirac for elder lmao

[frail tide]

Anyone seen this minimap icon?

I'm standing on it and can't see anything here other than some like uninteractable minions

[haughty aspen]

is holy flame totem channeling skill ? cause i use non-channeling bench craft on ring doesn't affect but its still totem skill (?)

[haughty aspen]

i though it was non cause its totem

[sterile atlas]

Icon bug with the desert tileset. (It's the flask refilling station from royale.)

[frail tide]

If you put spell totem on incinerate or scorching ray it's still a channel skill. The totem is an additional tag, not a replacement

[haughty aspen]

ohh i see thanks

[frail tide]

aaa ty

[loud lichen]

anyone doing nightmare maps?

[frail tide]

given they are still expensive, some people definitely are

[warm topaz]

10 years and thousands of hours. I've finally been blessed

[humble glade]

I didn't play last league. Are those videos for breach still good for this league or have the changes/nerfs to core change things enough to warrant new strats?

more specifically the crafting tree

[swift zenith]

not as lucky as you, but I just got lucky too.
I am still deciding what to do with iot

[wild cosmos]

Do yall think its worth investing in a simplex rn or too late?

[clever quartz]

can someone help me with a build?
im doing animate weapon of ranged arms at the moment and its going well but i just killed the boss and gotten rotten elergy which looks really cool. now it has an effect that summons a shambling corpse for 5 seconds, with a limit of 100 once every second.

Theoretically, can i max out on cooldown reduction and have a stupid amount of zombies

[elder fulcrum]

Have yall tried the different renderers?
Is any one less prone to deadlocks?
(Vulkan, directx12)
Feel free to ping me about this

[elder fulcrum]

IMO never late if it's good but always a gamble no?

[upbeat rock]

Uusually if something scales it would be in the modifier text, i dont think the "once per second" can be reduced further. You can increase the duration these minions persist to more than 5 seconds but that would result in an uptime of like 10 of them with a 100% increased duration investment

[topaz jay]

The brass dome worth the 3 divs for the 6 link? Hmmm....

[thorny scroll]

How do i get all part for the genesis tree, or can i run like unstable breaches and get all parts or do i need to do hive fortress?

[topaz jay]

Spend blood and just do breachs, the body parts just randomly drop

[modern axle]

I, i dont find the putrid cloister and i really need the 3mods craft, i have the putrid cloister waystone but not the nods in the atlas, can some one help me with that?

[thorny scroll]

alright ty

[little iris]

RIP mirror

[topaz jay]

Mirror? am I blind?

[dusk drum]

Fishmen

[little iris]

he is more rare than a mirroor

thats why its rip mirorr

[topaz jay]

Ohh fair, I thoiught that was some other player. Never even seen that dude. Does he do anything?

[little iris]

teaches you how to fish if u have a fishing rod

[topaz jay]

oh bruh, I thought they removed that with pherica. So that's how you fish, how do you even get the fishing rod?

[little iris]

cards

[topaz jay]

Is it worth doing still?

[little iris]

idk, never found him with a fishingrod before

[elder fulcrum]

Nah

Without that ascendancy fishing rods are back to being a meme

Easter egg / collectors item still valuable just because of how rare they are

Pretty sure

[bright arch]

im currently playing with this, cooldown reuction sadly doesnt increase how fast you summon, since the trigger is specifically once per second

but minion and skill effect duration influences how many can be there at the same time

[rose dragon]

There are hot autobombers using rod and angler runegraft

But idk hive herald looks better than hot to me

Though can also do rod and angler on hive, ik eri was doing that there

[old cedar]

Guys i ended up not playing in leaguestart because of reasons
I was running some kind of scuffed Deaths Oath/ Impending doom thing on my own but since a lot of days passed im wondering if there's some builds outshining others rn. I plan on doing my 2stones with that probably ditching DO completely for now but looking for recommendations/builds to look out for

[sage scroll]

what? people do that? why?

[cyan dagger]

Hello wanna try new league.Dont play poe maybe more then 1 year. Can someone recommanded me some good class for starter to have easy leveling a can clear t16 map ? Dont have much time so want something rly easy where i dont need thinking just for chill try new league 😄

[fleet sandal]

how do you sell on the market? i forgor

[tall plover]

Absolution Guardian/Necromancer is very chill in campaign and in early maps, but you'd want to spec into something different lategame to run juiced t16s

[mint copper]

@full moss Hi! I have been having problems with Awakened Poe Trade. I changed pc before this league so I just recently installed APT, when I open it while having Poe opened, the game just gets covered by a black screen, it's like if the overlay was open over the game and wasn't transparent so it gets covered by a black rectangle, but when I press shift + space the settings tab opens like normal. If I close APT the game gets visible again. This never happened to me before in my older pc, I have used the installer to install it and I have the version 3.28.102.

[sterile solar]

Man did they buff maven cus I failed on ele hit Slayer, feels like she slams more shit

[whole tide]

how can i start a blight map?

the map device doest allow to click on 'ACTIVATE'

[wild cosmos]

Right click the blight map in your inventory while having the atlas open

[whole tide]

ahh thank you!

[sage scroll]

i should be getting 24 passives in total from quests right?

[limpid basin]

-1 if you take the bandit choices

but yeah

[south rock]

anyone got a harvest tree/strat?

[upper dragon]

is the blight ring anoints meta still the same of the meteor tower and the frost chill?

burning ground*

[nimble ivy]

I've been having at least one, often multiple crashes per session this league. It's the kind where my game isn't responding and everything except the UI is black. Anyone else with a similar issue?
I tried switching from DX12 to DX11 (didn't have this problem with 12 before) but that cause my shader processing to go through the roof and I basically play a slideshow

[ocean spoke]

Anyone know whats the difference between cortex and cortex replica? I tried to look on the wiki but cant see any other than the price difference on poetrade lol

[olive glacier]

Any1 knows what the Mirage Wish is to target farm Wretched Defilers?

[steady sedge]

I love drop in those league

[steady sedge]

just type /global 6666 and and u will get those corpse

[steady sedge]

5 divines hooray

[upper dragon]

am i remembering wrong (i haven't done blight for a while) but before wasn't it that you could only get blight ravaged in normal maps?

[rose dragon]

Ravageds drop from either blighted maps or from normal maps when using blooming scarab

[upper dragon]

these were just rare blight ravaged tier 13 maps

that image was even before i remembered i should anoint the maps

[rose dragon]

Are you sure they were ravaged and not Just blighted?

Since ravageds aren't supposed to drop from ravageds

[upper dragon]

the ones that turn the entire maps into blight rooms with 12 branches

[rose dragon]

Yes these come in two types - easier blighted ones that can be anointed 3x and harder ravaged ones that can be anointed 9x

[upper dragon]

those ones that dropped have a different pattern on the maps if that gives info

than the ones i used

[rose dragon]

Yes coz the one you used was blighted while the one you droped was ravaged

[upper dragon]

didn't even know there was different ranks, though i never had a build as good as this one so normally did low tier maps

[strange leaf]

Anyone else having trouble getting their blight maps to go to their blight tab or just me?

When I shift click the maps to my map tab naturally and I feel like before they went to my blight tab instead or am I remembering that wrong?

[edgy lion]

F Servers?

[sonic stirrup]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3917580

[main mica]

why is the drop rate on resto coins so high

I have 100 of them and nothing to use them on

and why is the drop rate on support coins so awful, I've looted 6 divine and single support coin, and the support coins are the ones that are actually useful

and you have to use a dozen of them to hit something useful

[amber iron]

https://pobb.in/q1DHuUDu724- any suggestion what should be my next upgrade?

[vapid surge]

"Some packs in the Mirage area will be replaced with monsters that cannot drop equipment".... Tell me, what is the benefit of this? Loot pool picks from everything else? Like currency, div. cards etc?

[hardy veldt]

I meet Faustus and i still can;t sell through stash tab. I didnt get additional stash tab for which i PAID

[atomic sage]

Yo breach scarabs price spiked?

[rancid ginkgo]

anyone also not able to see Foil valdo maps in trade

[pearl mortar]

to get the fully miraged maps you need to kill the map boss in the mirage right? what affects the drop rate. does having scarabs for more maps affect it or quant. or is it a set % chance to drop

[twin harness]

can i use a dying sun while i have mageblood ruby flask? or wont i get the proj and aoe from dying sun

[proud condor]

Crop rotation, or cornucopia, whats best yall think?

[fallen panther]

Anyone try stacked deck farming this league? hows it going?

[sage scroll]

ele hit deadeye build
did i buy the wrong skill gem? im shooting mines in the ground

[sonic field]

read the light blue text

[gray compass]

Oopsies moment

[sage scroll]

oh rip my 50c

[sonic field]

it was sold cheaper because its a failed infusion

[sage scroll]

thankfully i got one now for 35c :)
im blasting now

[scarlet sun]

2 in 1 combo

[jovial vessel]

anyone can kill pls the synth bosses seems its hard for me

[faint basin]

Anyone have a 3.28 atlas strats sheet?

[blazing geyser]

What’s the cheapest way to 6 link?

[sage stratus]

Buy it

[silver fulcrum]

has anyone tried harvest

this league?

[sage stratus]

I have an 8 link

I could get a 9 link if i get lucky with corrupting my foulborn soul mantle

[eager root]

how i get the new Mirage maps i wanan buy them

[red saddle]

Can't download update on steam, anyone has same issue?

[frail geyser]

Yo i had to relog,now faustus says i dont have my merchant tabs anymore any idea

[rain shard]

what are the best mechanics for TR build?

[fossil nimbus]

cant find where to put thes maps in to run them https://i.imgur.com/eyyNpfH.png

[upper dragon]

not entirely sure but i thikn i remember seeing the conquerer maps are on top right?

[forest star]

Anyone can tell me why i'm getting 1 shot by everything from t1 to t15 maps? https://pobb.in/n9yRO1c8-r5x

[fossil nimbus]

shaper is there

[upper dragon]

i see, i haven't finished mapping my own atlas out, still trying to get some tier 16's to drop so i can have some attempts at eater and exarch

[dapper salmon]

This is my pob:https://pobb.in/o1iWwrPwvsTK

And this is the one im following: https://pobb.in/g7RV6YWT_KVP

Does anyone know why my build is so shit?

I know i havent minmaxed everything in midgame build but i thought i would be playable in like t5/6 maps at least, but its not. Legit unplayable compared to even the slams leveling build. Thought clusters and ghostwrithe was the most important

[past spire]

does synthetised stability reduce the amount of maps you can do with 1 astrolabe or its the same number?

[lapis citrus]

https://pobb.in/xBJG4LbcSXHa

Can someone tell me if with this build i can kill the infinite hunger without dying?

[strange wind]

Anyone have any suggestions on atlas strats this league for a new player?

[sonic stirrup]

Playing HC?

[lapis citrus]

Ye

[sonic stirrup]

I see

I'd recommend putting it in your server nickname

I'd say it's doable if you're familiar with the boss, but no promises

[lapis citrus]

i've never done it before

[sonic stirrup]

I'd also recommend doing simple upgrades like lesser eldritch implicits

And budget anoint

[lapis citrus]

can i dm you?

[sonic stirrup]

Why

[lapis citrus]

i have no idea how these mechanics works lol

[sonic stirrup]

Just ask in this discord

[past spire]

good luck doing anything in poe in hc while blind 😄 you should train on a normal char first

[sonic stirrup]

You can consider asking in #1┃after-acts-help instead of here as well

[lapis citrus]

how does the lesser eldritch implicits work

[sonic stirrup]

And in general, I too would not recommend HC on a first char

[lapis citrus]

first time i reached t14s

[sonic stirrup]

Read Lesser Eldritch Ichor

And Lesser Eldritch Ember

[upper dragon]

they give extra effects to your armor, like these are the ones i have on my boots

[sonic stirrup]

Non-shield armour

[upper dragon]

though i should change that phys as lightning, i don't do physical damage

[lapis citrus]

can i re roll them?

[upper dragon]

anyone know which type gives phys as lightning? i don't want to accidentally overwrite that endurance charge one

[sonic stirrup]

Hold alt

[upper dragon]

and yes you can reroll them, just use another one on them

[sonic stirrup]

Also, I'll just say that the least intuitive mechanic is to follow the direction of the sludge

[vapid topaz]

can someone buy me an item and i'll pay him(i don't have the gold for it)

[lapis citrus]

so what should i do instead of that boss fight

[sonic stirrup]

Also you might want to run a lower level molten shell, and specifically vaal so you have panic button

Shrug

You can continue grinding maps, or go do the boss fight

[lapis citrus]

why lower level molten shell? because of CWDT?

[sonic stirrup]

Yes, you'd also run a lower level cwdt

[lapis citrus]

like which lvl

[sonic stirrup]

If level 1 is enough to cap your molten shell, then level 1

If it isn't, some slightly higher level I guess

Oh right, that doesn't scale at all with level

Well, aside from how much flat armour

I'd use level 1 cwdt if I were you

And whatever level molten shell matches the level requirement requirement

[lapis citrus]

so it triggers everytime?

[dapper salmon]

Anyone who knows why after i use energy blade transform i cant use smite of dj?

[brittle bobcat]

At some point there, you should be able to invite them to your hideout and then use the "Currency Exchange" and "Manage Shop" conversation topics, the Merchant's tabs are in the latter.

Your fellow exiles may know more about the particulars.

[idle jewel]

is 8 mod full mirage map so good it costs whole div?

[manic hazel]

is there any source for the stuff kingsmarch gives with shipping?

[iron tapir]

so im trying to get to shaper but how do i get the maps before it like maze of the minotaur i cant find it on poe trade to buy it

[limpid basin]

type shaper guardian map

[plucky lodge]

could someone help me with swapping off fusillade? too laggy.
what are some options for scions?

[iron tapir]

ohhhh

ty ty

[frozen condor]

When progressing maps, are we best just going one quadrant at a time go high as we can? Or is it still best to do all t1, all t2, all t3, all t4 etc

[prime tree]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kingsmarch#Table_of_rewards

[oblique steeple]

bottom left + crafts

[onyx spindle]

anyone doing aul? really need the bloodline

[young knoll]

Does anyone else have a problem of forgetting they cleared the mirage or not?

[manic hazel]

ty sir

[red wharf]

seems im missing points for genesis tree, 1 for equipment part and +2 for uniques. I don't know where I'm missing parts (quest tracker mentions it), I've ran unstable breach, hive, fortress, killed breachlords, fed tree up to 30k blood. Farming breaches for days and 97lvl atm

according to people I asked about, I got full points for currency and mysterious parts of tree. Just missing 1 equipment point and 2 for uniques

edit: nevermind, I ran hive again and it dropped missing part. I don't know why, few days ago I ran normal hive and somehow was missing part

[upper dragon]

finally got some more tier 16 maps. got eater done and while not a drop i need, in a sense i got some good luck for once, have no use for it and SSF so can't trade but i'll take what i can get

[dapper salmon]

anyone got any idea why i suddenly cant use it swords?

[mortal igloo]

Hello, quick question, does quant and rarity play a huge role on chances to drop conquerors orbs ?

[high fossil]

You've added in Trauma support, which has a more restrictive list of weapons it works with

Bonks only for trauma

Although i suppose an axe is not really a bonk. Probably why bonk is not an official poe keyword, hey

[dapper salmon]

bought a normal gem instead (which was a bit more exepensive)

and it worked now

so yeah, wierd that trauma just makes swords req poof

[high fossil]

It says it on the gem, but i can't think of another support that changes the weapon requirements. Definitely an odd case.

[sterile atlas]

Nightblade, Close Combat, Shockwave. It's oppression. Varunastra will set us freeeee.

[cloud galleon]

it feels like picking Ores + any other strat is shooting myself in the foot with the mirages, which now target the enormous amount of ores instead of the other mechanic. is there any way to influence this? does Mesa get covered more consistently, for example?

[dawn tree]

servers acting crazy for anyone else?

[high fossil]

A few people are reporting it, yeah. Not sure if it's a particular region or something, but it's not everyone

[astral pulsar]

Man, I league started absolution and it was smooth until red maps. Now I’m almost done with campaign using KF totem and so far it’s amazing. Only thing is I feel kinda squishy.

[dapper salmon]

How do you switch atlas tree? to page 2

[devout osprey]

open atlas tree with ctrl + g, then its a dropdown top left

[dapper salmon]

i just havent unlocked it yet mb 50 points first

[frosty tapir]

have any fun builds been found for this league? kind thinking of starting my next character on Sunday and wanting to prepare a build together

[unborn ember]

I miss cheap annuls, switched place with exalts in price

[autumn stirrup]

League be printing had a few 1 div scarabs off screen too

[mystic elk]

This is such a silly question, but could someone tell me how I can run Shaper guardian maps this patch? I have no idea how to activate the map lmao

It just says "Wrong map type" when I drop it onto a regular map node, so clearly I should drop it somewhere else ... but right clicking it also doesn't seem to work like it does for the unique and special ones

[heady storm]

hey guys im new to poe1 does anyone have a giga strong build guide for me to follow whats the best build rn?

[shy lichen]

top-right of the atlas

[mystic elk]

Damn, thx ... I was even looking there but just didn't realise that's how it worked. I'm finding the new atlas UI really obfuscated :/

[limpid basin]

the shaper guardians are specifically really weird, yeah

[summer dawn]

Anyone able to tell me what map/quadrant I wll find the hits cant be evaded craft recipe?

[toxic tinsel]

is there a best map to run boxes

[pastel vault]

Are smuggler's cache loot/spawn rate affected by IIQ/Rarity/Pack size on a map?
Like if you have a heist atlas tree for it, does it matter if you run white maps or 8 mods maps?

[icy coral]

Hey which quad of the map is wasteland at?

[cosmic hill]

you gotta find them on the map too ?!

[loud geyser]

guuuys anyone running bloodsoaked banner? do swift affliction and brutality help it? or is it unaffected cause it's a support gem?

[lunar acorn]

so uh, just opened my kirac vault pass valdo's puzzle box

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742068676571824140/1481116264779743252/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_a3f8a81c-26d0-49b6-a54d-ee79c6deece4.jpg?ex=69b22483&is=69b0d303&hm=4a0cd2227c538e9634cb9505b9b76cb34a82a78f408f3bcad3164950dcdaf81e&

[sonic stirrup]

That's so free too lol

[wind bay]

free Progeny for the babes

Better than Henny for the Asian ladies

[sage scroll]

does life per second count as life modifier?

[torpid turtle]

Anyone playing around with the new transfigured storm burst? Am i correct in think that if you have 100% inc duration, if you let go of casting the skill would do 1.2×2/0,4×0.75 damage?

Or well, that amount more rather

[high fossil]

Just hold alt, you can see the tags of the mod

But yes, life regeneration is a life mod

[sage scroll]

ok thnx

[dapper salmon]

Is 22mill dmg endgame?

[limpid basin]

"endgame" isnt a word with a set meaning

... in other words, yeah, pretty much i guess

[limpid basin]

potionseller sell me this potion

[brittle bobcat]

3.28.0b:

Fixed Honoured Incubators not correctly describing that they are capable of resulting in Gold as well as Djinn Coins. This is purely a description change, and not a functional change.

[sharp roost]

o7

[smoky geyser]

now THATS what im TALKIN about

[orchid mantle]

is there a way to search on atlas for maps you have not yet completed? similar to !unmet for stash for gear you can equip

[smoky geyser]

the gold ring is atlas point

[orchid mantle]

yeah, i want to use the search bar

[smoky geyser]

i jsut search the tier ie 1 2 3 4 5 etc and go systematically

unless the asci for checkmark works?

canyou regex checkmark?

[atomic heart]

uhoh

[smoky geyser]

oh

[echo oyster]

neat

[deft geyser]

hey guys, is there a server problem ? i've been disconnected 2 times now

[wind bay]

OMG mirrorrrrrrr

[rich flume]

anyone getting long loading screen in general this league ? like more than 10sec some times , in and out of maps or hideout

[smoky geyser]

flasks are hot for me today holy shit

b2b XD

[alpine bridge]

Any ultimatum farmers in chat? I need a new layout, dunes is a coinflip if mirage covers it or not

[smoky geyser]

castle ruins, you spawn in center or in bottom left and yits narrow

or haunted mansion

[alpine bridge]

ive tried haunted mansion before and it would always spawn at the start and have the mirage at the back end of the map, but i will try castle ruins

[wise matrix]

Once in a lifetime!

Moooney!

[sage scroll]

guys am i ready for final lab?

[errant flax]

first map with the mirage mechanic

chat is it even worth doing the mirage? i feel like the rewards are mid

[errant flax]

im no expert but where is your chaos res

[rose dragon]

well these full mirage maps pair rather well with containtment scarb

[errant flax]

good idea

[sage scroll]

still completing atlas so i thought i dont need it atm

[brave sigil]

volcanic fissure seems better than volcanic fissure of snaking if the projectiles spawned do overlap damage and hit the initial target again multiple times. is that the case? or is it like each enemy can only be damaged once per skillcast or something

using snaking seems strange when the regular version of the gem has a higher damage slam-hit and like 4+ overlapping projectiles that each deal ~half of the slam damage. It's just x3 total damage if im understanding correctly?

[spiral bramble]

Thanks, mirageboxes

[hardy veldt]

I’ve him in my hideout and the only feature I’ve access to is “Currency exchange” it is as if I didn’t buy the package :))

Shall I open ticket or provide with screenshoots?

[lilac citrus]

What are yall doing for gold bc deli + beyond is straight trash

[brittle bobcat]

You can see your MTX purchases at https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/microtransactions to verify what you bought. Emailing support is probably a good idea if you think that something's weird.

Generally goes faster if you verify your account: https://www.pathofexile.com/support

[smoky geyser]

home sweet home

[jaunty girder]

hey, a new trade issue im having. i want to buy a 20/20 righteous fire from trade but all the cheapest corrupted ones have bad supports that brick the gem like cast while channel, is there a way to filter those out?

[snow marten]

Flask rolling in simu a lovely place to be

[brittle bobcat]

Yes, Imbued filter under Misc if you want to remove all imbued outcomes.

Otherwise, not-filter for the particular ones you don't want.

[jaunty girder]

thank you!

[snow marten]

Huh didn't spot that one yet.

[jaunty girder]

exactly what i was looking for perfect lol, there's so many things on that section now its easy to miss

[strange violet]

what would be good atlas farming method for archmage shocknova?

[snow marten]

Are u capable of doing 8mod t16?

[strange violet]

not sure - kinda new in poe1

i was thinking about rituals but few ppl told me it sucks for my build

[snow marten]

Idk how tanky you are but on the lower end without spending too much on investment you could do stacked deck farming

5x cloister + atlas tree plenty of videos on it. (Allie has one for 3.28)

strongboxes, essences, harvest.

Most things people need to craft or roll are always decent enough profit. Economy isn't too stable yet as early league.

[fallen fog]

any reason simplex's are plummeting in price?

[strange violet]

https://poe-atlas.com/best-endgame-atlas/
so this one might be valid or no for strongboxes

[snow marten]

Not familiar with the site / at work so can't easily check it. Also #1┃atlas-tree-planning is also a good channel to check

[strange violet]

thanks mate

[amber iron]

can someone send the atlas planner for ritual/breach

[hardy veldt]

Either I dont understand something and apart from buying merchant's tab I need to buy more Premium Stash Tabs or I have to proceed with creating a ticket since something is wrong :/
I dont have access device with game installed right now so cant provide more screenshoots than that

Since I would like to access it in my stash i think the answer is simple - id need to buy premium stash tab(s)

[brittle bobcat]

All you should need is a Merchant's Tab to be able to list things via Faustus.

[novel void]

what level 1 support gem is sought after for mamba corrupt?

[brittle bobcat]

Premium stash tabs are for your stash, to customise the tab title/colour and list things for "in-person trade".

Merchant's tabs are outside of the stash, they're with Faustus/Ange and let you list things for "instant buyout" async trade.

[fiery summit]

quick question, a couple days ago on reddit someone posted a picture with the new atlas progression in Mirage (like bosses, fragments etc.) did someone has the link? i can't find it anymore

[hardy veldt]

The question did arise because a friend of mine can access such option in his stash.
He can "sell items through his stash" and does not need to talk to augustus for that matter

[brittle bobcat]

With a premium stash tab, you can list items to a price and players can whisper you to ask to trade for them.
For that kind of trade, you have to invite them to your hideout in a party, find the item in the stash, open a trade window and exchange the item for currency.

With a merchant's tab, you can list items with a price and players can automatically travel to your hideout and purchase them from the merchant, without you having to do anything or be online at all.

[hardy veldt]

Yes, but he managed to select one of his stash tab as public and thus when selling something players can just buy them on their own and he does not need to be present for the trade to happen
Not via merchant/faustus etc etc. Since iam not knowledgabe on the topic ill explain it as is:

1. Player takes item into stash tab 5th places it here enters text, price etc
2. He can then leave that item in stash for however long.
3. Once he gets payed for that item he can collect the payment.
4. He does not need to speak to any merchant / Faustus during the whole process any single time

And the question is:

[brittle bobcat]

Async trade is only via the Merchant NPC.

The NPC is Faustus, there's also MTX for alternate "NPCs" like the Back Alley Trader and Djinn Merchant.

The stash cannot do async trade. The stash does in-person trade.
There's probably some misunderstanding somewhere there.

[ruby granite]

how do you search for mirage maps in trade?

[brittle bobcat]

This one, I reckon?

[ruby granite]

oh i feel dumb, was looking in the map filters but i guess not 💀

[brittle bobcat]

Always gonna be in the one you didn't look in ^_^

[broken geode]

Does lesser massive shrine and massive shrine aoe buff stack with each other?

[prime tree]

nope

[tiny thistle]

still lagging so much

[bright summit]

Eu is Giga cursed

[last quail]

i shall name him Fluffy.

[snow marten]

"You are my friend now"

[hollow plover]

1D ok?

[proper orchid]

im like 90% sure thats not good the flat ele is low, tho ive only sold bows so could be wrong

just use awakened poe and click attack speed and ele damage and see what pops up

[serene bear]

how can i unlock fortress map?

[somber violet]

UMM?

[proper orchid]

delete that shit

[somber violet]

Do I make an eclipse solaris wander now?

[hollow plover]

hix, real is 4D

its good base for craft

[stoic flame]

What am I missing why cant I open that reliquary ?

[soft edge]

Question: How do you increase knockback distance that isn't Meginord's vise steel gloves? Holy Hammer isn't a strike skill right?

[zealous frost]

Penance Brand of Dissipation Inquisitor or Archmage Hierophant (Transfigured Shock Nova, Ice Nova, Ball Lightning), wat u think is the best?

[sage scroll]

does increase dmg and concencrated ground help me? (deadeye fubgun build)

[iron flicker]

what exactly does astral touch mod on mobs do, feels like they get way more tanky

[iron flicker]

not really good on deadeye

[hollow osprey]

Yes, but are you running MB?

[sage scroll]

still completing atlas :)

[lost void]

Anyone can point me where Dry Sea map is ? It's a bit annoying to not have an interactive atlas on the web to find where to path for certain craft recipe

[cloud galleon]

hello! what effects do favored resources have on shipments? it used to be that it gave a bonus on completion, i think, but the big ass percentage number makes me think it's something else. does anyone know?

nvm it's on the wiki apparently