1┃mirage-league

[kind coral]

animated weapons probably bad for blighted maps. Mapping is prob ok (when they fix come in)

IRC weapons have weird positioning/aggro, not sure as well

[frank pike]

i mean, i have seen a AFK blight ravaged maps with chains of command

[kind coral]

will check then.

[frank pike]

bro just stands in place while the weapons are offscreen

[kind coral]

oh, yep, checked. They do!

[frank pike]

nice, i saw a guide for it in mercenary league, but i didnt actually play it

was tempted tho

[kind coral]

Last time I wanted to do any sort of AW they did require you to go big on char def, cuz their aggro/positioning were weird and some enemies didn't mind to hit you from afar. But it was way-prior aggro patches and other minion things

NoSweetBuild
on yt have nice showcase for 3.27

[frank pike]

yea, seems nice if you want to afk farm

i'll probably go afk ultimatum

[kind coral]

I just need game to farm for me while I researching PoB for this monstrosity :
#1┃general message

[frank pike]

wtf

[kind coral]

Yeah 💀

[tawny tangle]

what time does the league start ?

[nimble ivy]

Ggg didn't give any details on foulborn uniques getting more or less rare this league, right? Could be anything I assume

[frank pike]

If I can't see it, it can't hurt me type shit

[kind coral]

Timer on the official site!

[frank pike]

17h 13min

[tawny tangle]

thanks

[kind coral]

I want to make it legion on maps viable somehow, probably won't happen but should be fun anyway
Maybe some explosion type-things. On video it's just getting max possible spectres for pure eyecancer (with new gem it should get from 14 to 19~, but I will stick to lower value cuz spectres doubling/+4 spectres helmet not worth prob)

[sullen storm]

How bad is queue on league start? Usually the league starts at like 4 am my time, so I never bother to play league start, but I happen to be on work leave. So debating on no lifing this league.

[frank pike]

uhh, depending on when you join the queue, but up to 10-20min

[kind coral]

Its kind fast, but the problems with login itself/bugs/dc can happen and ruin it.
Didn't happen last time, so maybe everything will be good

[sullen storm]

Hmmm I'll chance it I guess.

[swift ferry]

I usually don't have issues with queues usually it's disconnects that plauge it.

[kind coral]

The queue starts a bit earlier then the launch tho!

[sullen storm]

Oh? So I could queue up a bit early?

[cloud galleon]

yeah, getting in is easy, staying in is harder. the game usually becomes a lot more stable 2 or 3 hours after league start

[prime tree]

i can recommend having garbage internet so downloading the patch takes 6 hours. By that point you usually don't have to worry about queue. ||I do not recommend this, actually||

[cloud galleon]

if i were you i'd set it to download at like 1 am and start playing at 7 am, personally.

[kind coral]

Yep! But idk when queue starts, I always missing time when the league starts because numbers on site are constantly off for me, as well as time-zones. pacific time and nz being +13 ain't makes it better

[sonic stirrup]

well, that's what a queue is all about isn't it lol

if you're early enough you won't have to wait at all

[nimble ivy]

It's not set in stone, it starts when ggg is ready

[prime tree]

yeah, i don't care about leaguestart that much anymore. sometimes i might play 1-2h then go to bed or just not bother at all and play the next day.

[sullen storm]

I have 10 gigabit internet. Patch won't be a thing.

[sonic stirrup]

if you queue up just before launch it's usually like 20-30 mins iirc?

but that also means that the queue disappears in about that same timeframe

[sullen storm]

Got it, I'll wake up a bit early then, thanks.

[swift ferry]

Emperor's vigilance is usually a 1div shield at leauge start right?

[frank pike]

last league i joined queue like 2mins before launch and i waited for like 17mins

[sonic stirrup]

that's 2 whole minutes early :p

though also, if there's server issues, the queue might return with a vengeance

[kind coral]

And non-steam client is better for queuing. Steam can have weird bugs, like don't even announce there is a patch for game and would require you to relaunch steam. So either official launcher or sitting on discord/stream looking for info in case of patch

[sonic stirrup]

vengeance

[frank pike]

i like steam tho

[sullen storm]

Well, if I'm facing bugs, it'll thankfully be 4 am my time. I'll just sleep.

[prime tree]

for keepers league ninja has it at 10c on nov 1st and 2c on nov 2nd. it doesn't really have that granular detailed data for xhrs after league start.

[kind coral]

I got 8bitduo gamepad just for poe2 0.1. Were laying on sofa and slamming X because servers were dead.
And... then the queue. I got into m+k controls somehow with gamepad attached, so I had to relaunch and... queue again. And I disliked the gamepad after 30 minutes, disconected it and... it's instantly DC'ed me for that reason. 'Well, time to sleep'

[swift ferry]

If I can get it for 10c tomorrow on my divine blast build that will be amazing. But I feel like it's usually/will be higher than that.

[prime tree]

you could check antiquary, but same issue as ninja it's mostly daily snapshots, so stuff like 7hrs into the league might be a different story

[kind coral]

Was it Mercenary that had problems on launch?

[swift ferry]

We shall see. Divine blast will a normal/average vig and a seething Fury is like 15% base crit so I want to get both as quickly as I can.

[prime tree]

it's t2? but i don't think it's usually in demand really and haven't heard a lot of buzz around divine blast.

you might be competing against like... 200 shield crush players maybe

[cloud galleon]

i've been hearing about shield crush for delve, so maybe that affects it

[cloud galleon]

do you have secret sauce to make divine blast scale well despite not being melee, projectile or spell?

[chilly depot]

Convert fully to fire then scale fire damage is my plan

[swift ferry]

Rn not much other than less duration to get the 100% more modifier explosions going off with things in it. Gonna fiddle more once pob updates it.

[chilly depot]

What ascendency

Divine blast is my backup if sweep is meh

[cloud galleon]

i would prepare a third backup just in case

[swift ferry]

I'm a generic bitch who forces inquisitor to work with wierd shit usually. If my garbage Dosen't work normally I just fall back to eblade till I have currency to make my bs work. Which might be a masochistic choice after the nerfs but in for a penny in for a pound as they say.

[chilly depot]

Hammers, surely that's not bait

[chilly depot]

Lance said the nerfs aren't that impactful, iirc from the video he had 5k es before e blade was on so

[swift ferry]

Yeah thankfully most of the eshield comes from converted life early on

[cloud galleon]

i don't get the point of inquisitor honestly. all the nodes are really basic

[tame iris]

it never goes down from 5k max

foulborn ghost overides the 50% less on eblade

[swift ferry]

Because a elemental damage Templar sounds cool on paper. But also free crit

[cloud galleon]

except instruments of virtue and fanaticism

[tame iris]

so your es pool is just always 40% of life (or more with heist enchant)

[tame iris]

because its generically good to crit cap for free and ignore monster res

[swift ferry]

Also battlemage is a useful/abuseable thing to have.

[cloud galleon]

yeah it sounds really cool, but the ascendancy is really uninspiring

battlemage is really good tho

[swift ferry]

I mean crit is sick to get.

[chilly depot]

One of the best defensive layers in the game, and easy crit scaling for whatever hit based ele skill.

[cloud galleon]

the -8% elemental damage from enemies?

[chilly depot]

No you ignore resistances if you crit

So you treat enemy ele res as zero

[devout osprey]

"Nearby Enemies take 16% increased Elemental Damage
Nearby Enemies deal 8% less Elemental Damage "

the first line boosts your damage, the bottom weakness the enemie's

[cloud galleon]

i don't think that's a defensive layer (?

i mean, death is the best cc i guess

[tame iris]

the defensive layer would be the recovery

hybrid templar if you go corrupted soul is quite good

[chilly depot]

Have you read the ascendcy at all? Also I put a comma there

[tame iris]

like imagine having 1-2k life regen with your damage split between both

thats inquis

[cloud galleon]

from pious path?

[tame iris]

yes

[cloud galleon]

yeah i guess that's also not a bad node

[chilly depot]

And reduced curse effect

[swift ferry]

Pious path has carried so many midgames on terrible builds for me

[cloud galleon]

maybe i've been too harsh on him

[tame iris]

i miss the inquis RF setups lol

was just so much raw recovery

[chilly depot]

Tbf battlemage nodes are probs the least picked ones

[cloud galleon]

and all that scales with the consecrated ground effect, right

[chilly depot]

Eb is the only build that uses the first one

[swift ferry]

I wish conc ground effect% affected profane ground. Mixing the Templar ascendancy with that one Bloodline would be cool

[chilly depot]

I am tempted to make a minion build on Inquisitor using that bloodline

[swift ferry]

Not the aspeed one?

[chilly depot]

Profane ground gives unholy might does it not?

[tame iris]

yep the inc dmg part scales too

anything that says conc ground you create applies x

including the new accuracy cluster that gives 30% acc on conc ground

which honestly id consider pathing that just for the ground effect

[cloud galleon]

yeah that sounds pretty fun

[chilly depot]

Damn I was planning to go jugg but those new clusters look kinda decent so I might go Inquisitor

[cloud galleon]

does area of effect of skills that create consecrated ground (like CPoE) affect the size of the ground or only the attack?

[chilly depot]

Ground

[cloud galleon]

nice

[chilly depot]

Wait both I believe

[cloud galleon]

no yeah i knew it increased the attack size

[swift ferry]

Heres my favorite silly sauce. Pious path with corrupted soul is fun. Basically split your damage between two layers both that are constantly regenerating does wonders.

[tame iris]

^ :p

my personal favourite way to play it as well

in general tho corrupted soul is pretty underrated

[cloud galleon]

are uniques for consecrated ground (like gifts from above) something to consider or just lesser than res rings in the early league and worse than whatever else later on

?

[tame iris]

also insane on like archmage builds since ur scaling life mana and es and bypass means it splits all 3

[tame iris]

its okay if your inquis early but worse than a res life ring imo

and later on it gets outscaled by basically any decent ring

[cloud galleon]

yeah that checks out

bottled faith tho

i might do a really bad Consecrated Path of Endurance Inquis if I get bored of my league starter

[tame iris]

faith is a weird one

if your a caster its okay lategame cos you dont rly have anything to do with that flask slot

if your an attack build tincture tends to be better

[cloud galleon]

assuming you're using MB, right?

[tame iris]

ye

[cloud galleon]

new belt might make it more appealing

[tame iris]

well no

shrine belt wants you to use no flasks

lol

[cloud galleon]

wait

i can't read no way

[tame iris]

you can only use instant flasks and tinctures

[cloud galleon]

lol

well it's gonna go crazy for my minion inquis build (?

[swift ferry]

I've been avoiding brewing with the stupid belt. If I reach the point where I can be stupid with it I'll enjoy it. But it is indeed so stupid.

[chilly depot]

I saw that and I feel that belt will only compete with MB if it's a godroll

[tame iris]

well yea

accel/echoing+res

prolly gonna grab accel/res later in the league

[chilly depot]

Crit/res

[tame iris]

in the discussion of inquis

crit is the worst possible shrine

[swift ferry]

All the offensive shrine buffs can be built around in some way

[swift ferry]

Oh ya.

[chilly depot]

Yeah

[tame iris]

only crit/action/echoing are actually worth building into though

like brutal is actively detrimental and the freezing/lightning dont really do anything?

[chilly depot]

If only the new skills were usable with rakiatas dance

[tame iris]

oh also actually resonating could be worth for discharge

[chilly depot]

Isn't brutal also double damage?

[tame iris]

no its 50% increased damage and knockback

additive with your increased damage

[swift ferry]

I've done some screwing around and even brutal you can make good If you want to. Like it's not a crazy dead roll.

[cloud galleon]

crazy for my CPoE build

[tame iris]

it has to do more than what you can get on a rare belt

or on mageblood

[chilly depot]

Just go jugg for cpoe

[tame iris]

and brutal just sucks

[cloud galleon]

yeah...

[swift ferry]

Oh ya. There's better but still it's like +125% damage with atlas and Gull so it's not dead at least

[chilly depot]

Unless SC then defense is a luxury not a requirement

[tame iris]

you have to consider an endgame build is usually around the 1.5k+inc damage mark or higher

so thats barely 10% damage at 1.5k% inc and your losing helmet slot

and belt slot

(and i guess flasks)

[swift ferry]

Yeah I'd still take a better shrine belt or a mageblood any day.

[tame iris]

id take no belt over brutal :p

the knockback is sooo bad

[swift ferry]

I avoid knock back cause it seems like it would suck most of the time. So I get it

[tame iris]

brutal gives you guaranteed knockback

yea

its one of those shrines you click off the moment you get it lmfao

[grizzled pelican]

Is there a POB update yet?

Asking for a friend.

[chilly depot]

Not till Sat cause you asked

[swift ferry]

Meanwhile my pob is a barely working mess because I am impatient and constantly self editing the files.

[kind hatch]

Guys if I’m planning to play till 2 stones, should I pick shield crush slayer or manaman?

[chilly depot]

Still sane exile?

[chilly depot]

Have you played melee before? And do you know the fights well

[kind hatch]

I’ve played bleed slams last league. It was okay for me.

[potent tartan]

looks like no streamer is planning to start league with Reliquarian 🤔

[swift ferry]

Makes sense. Most killer builds Ive seen brewed on it are expensive

[kind hatch]

I first have to get to 2 bosses lol.

[chilly depot]

You give up damage or better utility from other ascendencies so makes sense

[chilly depot]

If you go shield crush I recommend zerker over slayer

[swift ferry]

Like late game it can do some really good things with that recoup line, mystic refractor and Fross

[kind hatch]

I don’t know what to go. Hence why I posted here to get some insight.

[swift ferry]

Or the frenzy on crit line. But those are some late game builds

[chilly depot]

https://youtu.be/EexqaIzB9I4?si=mR7v40m2bLlb656D

[kind hatch]

Why zerker? Don’t you have to get extra defensives.

[chilly depot]

Are you going softcore?

Also you should be making block chance if going a shield skill so between block, leech and Regen you should be fine

[silk crystal]

Do you think we can imbue trap support

[dire bluff]

I think you can imbue skills and not supports.

[silk crystal]

I mean imbue trap support onto a skill

[dire bluff]

Sure, why not

[silk crystal]

Arc traps it is

Ok league starter done

Ice trap sabo into arc traps assassin

[dire bluff]

If that was the thing stopping you just get... whatever those trash boots are

you're like halfway there

[silk crystal]

Well I want to use stormshroud so I need rare boots

[dire bluff]

First time I've had someone want traps

ever

[silk crystal]

Otherwise everything else is tight

Oh I’ve been a trap enjoyer since betrayal

[dire bluff]

apt name and apt league for the opinion

[silk crystal]

Plus red arc mtx just looks amazing

When overlayed

[hollow osprey]

Is there anything worth for Beyond nowadays?

I mean, is it worth investing in Beyond

Tainted currencies don't seem to sell for that much

[tame iris]

its extra mobs for late game strats but i think its probably dead without map craft beyond

since its too many points on tree lol

[boreal glade]

what farms strats are op

in 3.28

other than like.. boxes and blight

[green remnant]

What time will you be taking a shit two weeks later?

[boreal glade]

7 am

[green remnant]

Naise

[boreal glade]

i got morning that day

[rocky glacier]

What is a good atlas strat for ballista fusillade

[oblique steeple]

alch and go deli

[rocky glacier]

I know totems die easily so I want something that the totemd don't die all th etime

[waxen spire]

For teh new Timeless are they adding a new emblem drop? 6-way possible?

[high fossil]

No, because the timeless jewel doesn't come from the domain of timeless conflict, you can only get it from empowered legions in mirages

[tame iris]

there wasnt an emblem in the item filter info unless it has a really weird name ^

[high fossil]

Also if the Legion mechanic itself was getting modified it would have been in the patch notes

[prime whale]

Do we know whether Blight (Ravaged) maps also allow us to choose which map to run?

[upper dragon]

👀 didn't consider that, actually a huge buff to blight if it does since some maps work better than others for certain builds

can spam the ones that work for you instead of doing them occasionally or stockpiling them like we used to

[hollow osprey]

Ritual gamba baby

Wait nvm the new Corpse looks horrible

[hollow osprey]

Huh I thought all of them would be the same

[clever saddle]

can someone explain the new atlas tree to me like im 8 years old

[high fossil]

Well, it's a lot like the old atlas tree, with a few slightly different nodes and no harbingers.

What are you confused about in particular?

[clever saddle]

ah ok i thought it was reworked somehow sounds like its the same?

[high fossil]

Well the atlas passive tree is the same, but the atlas itself has been massively reworked

[clever saddle]

oh i havent played poe in over a year so lots of new stuff probably

[high fossil]

You now have 4 quadrants, with map nodes going from a t1 at the centre out to t16s in the corners. And you don't find maps for a specific node, just for a tier. Then you open that map using the atlas node.

So you'd find a t3 map item, roll it how you like, then use it to open whatever map area you can run at t3.

And so on

Did you play during War for the Atlas, when we had Shaper and Elder influence blobs?

[clever saddle]

so you dont find lets say a maze map but instead use the maze tier map to open maze portal, provided you've unlocked maze?

no

[high fossil]

Yes

[high fossil]

Ok, then explaining astrolabes is gonna be very confusing in text, you should probably just watch the reveal vid

But basically you juice a group of nearby maps with something you want to run, and it shrinks and intensifies as you clear it off those maps

[clever saddle]

is it kinda like towers in poe2?

[high fossil]

I actually haven't played a lot of poe2 endgame, but i think so. People are saying this is a good hybrid of the poe1 and poe2 endgames

[clever saddle]

I just want to farm some divines in maps i dont really care beyond that

ah ok sounds good

[high fossil]

Then good news, the maps will have divines in them

Somewhere

[clever saddle]

Not really a league question but anyway to play group play in endgame without having a crazy setup? I feel like i have a pc that should be fine but somehow it isnt

[high fossil]

As in, you've tried to party up and your pc can't handle it?

[clever saddle]

Yeah there major lag and stuttering

cpu is ryzen 7 5700x3d, gpu rtx 4060, ram 32gb 3600mhz

[high fossil]

Some content is just laggy, especially when juiced, but it might be a network issue? Depending on who you were partied with.

[clever saddle]

possibly

[high fossil]

I've got a similar pc with a 4080, and always lag in blight-ravaged maps playing solo, for example. Endgame just gets messy.

[green remnant]

What content was it you're doing specifically?

Coz my pc struggles with uber juiced blight/alva sometimes too and its 7800x3d 3080 solo, really depends

[sage scroll]

torrent file is just a ggpk file
what do i do with it

paste it in steam install folder?

[timid geyser]

Torrent cannot be used with steam version

[sage scroll]

oh sadge

wait poe has its own launcher or something?

[timid geyser]

Yes.

The news page where you downloaded the torrent file states this

[sage scroll]

ig ill wait for steam patch then

[sonic stirrup]

Torrent is only good if your Internet is slow anyways

[clear anchor]

Has anyone else not seen the patch notes for the skill damage changes, or am I blind?

[silk crystal]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3914006

this one?

[clear anchor]

Ooh it's that one... That's less than I thought.

@silk crystal Thank you.

[silk crystal]

Yep the exceptional ones they don’t want to tell us all of em

[hollow topaz]

alright boys spin 2 win or guardian

[austere berry]

🥹

[woven steppe]

is the content.gpk file ready to download yet?

[brittle bobcat]

Been for around 9.5h: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3914487

You're looking at a 59 gig torrent or a 12 gig patch.

[woven steppe]

oh

might wait for patch then

[finite whale]

What does the new vaal orb do?

[brittle bobcat]

Patch time is in ~8h, 3h before launch.

[sonic field]

can under/over roll values on the item

[brittle bobcat]

Realms down: <t:1772812800:F> (<t:1772812800:R>)
Servers live: <t:1772823600:F> (<t:1772823600:R>)

[finite whale]

Oh dang that's kinda cool

[sonic field]

just make sure to press alt and read if the unique mod you want is not unscalable

[finite whale]

Thankiess for that information

[marsh wagon]

Does Alva's get mirages? No way surely?

[brittle bobcat]

Some specific mechanics with subareas of their own do not qualify.

[uncut umbra]

Question, if I wanna farm altars with Synthesised Stability, I can only use the maps from bottom left cuz that's where searing/eater voidstone is?
what if I wanna farm altars in a map that's in any of the other 3 quadrants?! does anyone know?

[bright sable]

Altars can be on any map layouts

[uncut umbra]

yes, but the eldritch voidstone says
"Eldritch Altars have 25% chance to have an additional upside and downside from the other Eldritch Influence type"
so, you're kinda enticed to use it on that quadrant, limiting your map choice

[bright sable]

Thats a global buff psure

Quadrants only matter for map drops

[uncut umbra]

idk man, in the video, when they socketed the voidstones, it only affected that quadrant

[bright sable]

Thats probably just for maps

They never said anything about the bonuses

Being local

But its possible ig

[uncut umbra]

I hope so, I just think it'd be so much better if you could socket the voidstones in whatever socket you want

Maybe I just wanna do dunes and say dunes is in the top right quadrant, I just get the voidstone I want

[finite whale]

Does it only work on uniques?

[sonic field]

dunno

[brittle bobcat]

AIUI - the way the voidstones work is that they each have a common set of per-quadrant modifiers, like the "all maps require T16 map keys", "all map keys dropped below T16 become gold", "map keys dropped are +1 tier".
They also each have a voidstone-specific bonus that is atlas-wide.

[uncut umbra]

if that's how it is, it sounds both busted and incredibly fun!
HYYYYYPE
thank you very much

[brittle bobcat]

Probably clarified somewhere else too, Q&A was close at hand:

~1h28m

[regal arrow]

TODAY IS THE DAY BOYSSSS - LOGIN!

[uncut umbra]

yeah, I was just hoping it's not only the
"Tier 16 Maps Dropped in Areas have 0.4% chance to become a Nightmare Map for each Socketed Voidstone" part that's applying to the whole atlas xD

[brittle bobcat]

Today is a day.

[sonic field]

exactly 12h apart

also damn you guys launching at 6 am for you

[frank gate]

Launching at like 11 here.

AM.

[regal arrow]

nuh its the day

[regal arrow]

oh wait, youre not EUW. for me its 10am

[sonic field]

red name = ggg employee

and ggg is at new zealand

[frank gate]

Only real populated place with UTC+13 as a time standard as well.

Not to disparage Tonga Tonga, and Fiji.

[brittle bobcat]

5 AM maint, 8 AM launch.

[frank gate]

EARLY mornin.

[brittle bobcat]

Currently +12h from CET until DST changeovers happen towards the end of March and beginning of April; after that it's +10h.

[sonic field]

sth is not mathing right for me

[frank gate]

By the way, LRR used to be one of my favorite sketch comedy shows to watch. They still doing Desert Bus every year?

[sonic field]

unless the hour you posted is not your current time

[brittle bobcat]

I feel more for our Aussie and SEA exiles.

[brittle bobcat]

Yep.

[frank gate]

Awesome I'll have to catch it this year.

[brittle bobcat]

Realms down: <t:1772812800:F> (<t:1772812800:R>)
Servers live: <t:1772823600:F> (<t:1772823600:R>)

For me:

[sonic field]

ok then the time you posted earlier was off by 2h

cuz 10h from 10 pm is 6 am

[brittle bobcat]

The 10 PM thing above? That's what the wall said the time was when I when I posted it.

[sonic field]

but that was few minutes ago

[brittle bobcat]

Completely unrelated to launch and all; except I should sleep soon 😄

It's currently 10:13 PM in NZ; while it's 10:13 AM in glorious Sweden.

[sonic field]

same here in poland

are there some hour changes over the night? cuz idk where the extra 2h would come from

[frank gate]

And 1:13AM in Las Vegas.

[sonic field]

launch in 10h from 10pm would be 6 am but your timer says 8

[brittle bobcat]

You're off by two hours in your math.

From 10 PM it's two hours to midnight, and another eight from there to 8 AM.

[sonic field]

oh wait im dumb

lmao

[brittle bobcat]

I've had to convert my brain to 12h time moving here. I'm with you 100% in confusion 😄

[sonic field]

we dont use am-pm in my country not used to the per 12 stuff

[frank gate]

It is annoying.

[frank pike]

The AM and PM stuff is confusing

Just use 24h

[sonic field]

was calcing it as if day ended on 14 pm lmao

[brittle bobcat]

I'm gonna live here for the foreseeable future, might as well embrace the suck.

[frank gate]

My dad was military, all our digital clocks, and pretty much all our computers for about 25 years were set to run in military time.

My friends look at me like I'm more psychotic, because half the time, when asked the time, I have to sit there and convert back and forth twice.

[brittle bobcat]

Half the time, heh.

[frank pike]

I dont get the whole "Military time" bs, it is just normal for me

[frank gate]

In the US the only people who use 24h clocks are the military, or people who work with the military.

[frank pike]

Avarage american cant count past 12 or sth

[frank gate]

You know...

[brittle bobcat]

:bedge:

[sonic field]

[last blaze]

Did they buff betrayal

[sonic field]

kinda

[frank gate]

So here's a funny story from my sisters life...

We were raised by and large in California, which for the US ranks or ranked like, 5th in education for k-12, essentially our primary education system. We now live in Las Vegas, in Nevada, which ranks, like 49th.

My sister was doing currency cashiering at work, and casually said, as she handed 5 twenties in change to a co-worker, "Here you go, 5 twenties, and 2 tens. For the 1 hundred, and 4 5s you gave me."

Her coworker looked stumped...

And then said, "How'd you do that so quick?"

So my sister just said, "There's 5 twenties in 100?"

Their coworker was like... "That's that California education."

[sonic field]

there is a new node that gives a chance for fractured veiled mods

[sonic field]

get down mr president

[frank gate]

You haven't seen the depths of my text walling.

[leaden sparrow]

One of the most troubling things I ever learned was that my county had the best public schools in the whole US

I dun wanna learn how dumb the average person is outside the west coast lmfaoo

[sonic field]

i learned that a bit too well when being a mod on a modded mc server

[leaden sparrow]

years off your life innit

[sonic field]

although that one might have attracted the below avg folk

[frank gate]

Nevada's bad, but at least it's not... Like... I've lived in Alabama... That almost gave me DID it was bad.

[leaden sparrow]

ngl

[sonic field]

basic addition up to 100 is one of the most requested help there

[leaden sparrow]

If I could move back to Seattle rn I would, Oregon's been fun but I miss the actual Mountain

[sonic field]

as soon as i tell them to just use a calculator they get mad

[leaden sparrow]

oh god

[frank pike]

Wtf, just how awful is their education

[leaden sparrow]

A teenager asked me to read an analog clock for her the other day

Imagine if you were born in the wrong county you wouldn't have supple enough neurons for maximum PoE enjoyment

[sonic field]

and these people get jobs in places that need math lmao

[frank pike]

It often baffles me how stupid can some ppl be, especially in various video clips i see where ppl think chocolate milk comes from brown cows or sth

[leaden sparrow]

So I can take Holy Strike from 1-100 right

[sonic field]

ye

[leaden sparrow]

Let's pretend I'm a little bit tistic and I kinda like using one skill all game

pretend as in bro I have hundreds of 40k minis lmfao

[sonic field]

40k minis are cool, never got into it but looks cool

im too bad with precise movement to paint these stuff

[frank pike]

Warhammer 40k has really cool lore but i am not at all interested in the game itself or the figurines

[leaden sparrow]

A girl got me into D&D and I painted the groups minis, then covid lockdown happened and we kinda stopped hanging out... I mean everyone did lol

[sonic field]

which game tho, there are multiple across multiple game genres

[frank pike]

Only know about the army fighting tabletop

[leaden sparrow]

A lot of people just build and paint and never play

[sonic field]

ah yeah never played that one either

i did play the more d&d esque wh fantasy ttrpg tho

[frank gate]

2000 US voters surveyed nationally, and only 23% of them could identify the large country that we recently attacked. They shrunk the map to include only europe and the middle east, keeping that country in the center, and 28% got the country correct.

[frank pike]

Crazy, but i am also bad with geography so i forgive that

[sonic field]

i remember some dots were even placed on usa

[sonic field]

[frank gate]

Yes they were.

[leaden sparrow]

This was the last thing I completed. PoE counts as Grimdark right

[frank pike]

In my high school you could choose whether to study history or geography during the last 2 years and i took history cuz fucj geography, history is cool at least

[sonic field]

lmao its all over the place, bet half of these actually didnt bother thinking where they place the dot

[frank gate]

I took both AP History and AP Geography because I'm a masochist.

[sonic field]

yeah id say world of poe is dark fantasy

[leaden sparrow]

Wait that's actually pretty damn good lmfao

poe even has a fair chunk of scifi

also BLOOD GODS

[sonic field]

the folks pointing at the sea lmao

[leaden sparrow]

...and Tzmagu is Cegorach...

and Igneans are Jingakhs

PoE can be Oceanic Warhammer lol

[frank pike]

In my highschool we had A and B tier stuff, A tier to prepare for the national exams, while B tier is simpler, more general stuff, I had A tier :Biology, Math, Chemistry, History, English, Lithuanian (my country's language)
And B tier: Art, PE

[sonic field]

in my highschool we only had general subjects not related to our specialization in the first year

the standard stuff like biology, geography etc

although history classes stayed for all 3 years

[frank pike]

Here, high school is 4 years, 2 years general stuff, and 2 years where we choose to specialise

[leaden sparrow]

Do any of the dom blow builds use holy strike asswell

[sonic field]

ok now its 4 years too, but i went using the old schooling form

[frank gate]

AP: History, English(Less a language class more a... Essay writing course, and a literature history course), Geography.
I had the option to take a College Level Elective: Computer Science 101
Normal: Science
Remedial: Math.

[sonic field]

was the last year of ppl doing so

as they removed middleschool for folk younger than me

and redistributed the years to primary school and highschool

[leaden sparrow]

I might trick myself into going Holy Strike, Dom Blow, Zombies kek

Slapzoo

[frank pike]

Here, Lithuanian is the essay writing course, while english is like actually learning the language, the national exams were B2 rier english, but my school went above and beyond and did C1

[frank gate]

Nice.

[sonic field]

i had mandatory c1 in college

[frank pike]

I had C1 in university too

Cuz learning various medical and pharmacological terms is apparently C1

[sonic field]

im on cs so thats useful here too

[frank gate]

I flared out educationwise in High School, at least for formal education. I got cocky, and blew my shot at university.

[frank pike]

I kinda stopped studying certain stuff in highschool, cuz just listening during lessons was enough for me to get 7-10 on tests, so i kidna gave up, now i dont know how to study but i am somehow in my 3rd year at uni

[sonic field]

same

[frank gate]

I had problems with authority in my youth.

[sonic field]

but im finishing my 4th year

[frank gate]

I got into big arguments with professors.

Because they basically made me take courses that I already knew the material of.

[frank pike]

Pharmacy studies are 5 years here, so I still have 2 and a half years left

[sonic field]

in theory cs studies are 3.5 years here

but i went to english version that has extra semester to bring foreign folk to our standards

[dull flume]

Haven't played in a few leagues... What are some good builds for that can league start and do all content and 40/40? I prefer map clear over boss kill speed. But i do like to be survivable. I don't mind if the ubers etc take more time to kill.

[sonic field]

ele hit slayer

if you dont mind melee

[dull flume]

I can take a look, any minion/range options so i can have a look see what takes my fancy

[sonic field]

dom blow seems to be popular for this league for minions

and for range if you dont mind totems, kf ballista

although self cast version works too

[frank pike]

Self cast a lot more iffy

[dull flume]

over absolution?

[sonic field]

absol still solid, even slightly buffed

[dull flume]

I don't like totems

I have tried them a few times and always get bored of them

[frank pike]

They will get more comfy cuz emerge speed will now scale

But yea, if you dont like them it's fine

I am fine with totems but dislike minions

[oblique steeple]

loser

[last blaze]

Is that good? Don’t most people want fractured something else so they can used veiled exalted at the end?

[rose dragon]

its really interesting for leaguestart for some builds (drop % phys fractured axe, slam on one essence, gg until ubers)

and is in general interesting for signature veiled mods - which are drop only and not obtainable by veiled ex (so hillocks increased attributes, elreon -mana cost, etc), tho for these its gamba if you drop them on good base or not (while if they drop unfractured you can transfer to desirable base then frac)

[rich pawn]

when does queue start?

[random juniper]

Is filterblade alr updated?

[sonic field]

8h ig

[random juniper]

Probably like 8j

[sonic field]

one way to find out

[rich pawn]

so like 1-2 hours before the new league?

[sonic field]

ye

[frank pike]

Like 30min before launch? Maybe even 1h, idk

[rich pawn]

alright thx

[mighty temple]

which of the holy skills do you think is going to work well on a guardian in endgame? Holy hammers looks cool, but it looks like it would be better suited for a more conventional slam build like slayer or berserker. Holy strike doesn't look like it will have a good clearspeed, should i just stick with dominating blow?

[sonic field]

yea

[sage scroll]

gonna release at 4am for me that sux

[mighty temple]

for me it's the perfect time at 8PM

Not that it matters because i got successfully baited by the holy skills and will be switching next week once they inevitably turn out to be bad XD

[sullen storm]

Hey, 4 am gang!

I'm planning to take a nice hot bath at 11:30 then get into bed so I can have a few hours of sleep.

[sick pilot]

Only if you never sleep

[eternal trail]

Who needs sleep when leaguestart

[dreamy jolt]

Half an hour befor queue up there must be a mandatory nap heheheh

[past badge]

Will they give us more gold drops this league? Last league was so hard to get enough for trading/kingsmarch/etc... as a casual player

[cloud galleon]

this league crops seem unimportant

[sonic field]

dont run mappers and its fine

[cloud galleon]

so most likely you won't have to spend so much

[sonic field]

mappers eat tons of gold

which makes me wonder, why do we even pay them if maps drop gold themselves

they only give us loot

not gold

[cloud galleon]

100% tax on gold found in maps

[dreamy jolt]

Double dip on the gold pot

[cloud galleon]

that's faustus' cut

[sonic field]

damnit faustus

bet he's now rich enough to fund a country

[dreamy jolt]

Queensmarch incomming?

[sage scroll]

whos itemfilter do u guys follow

[high fossil]

There are item filters other than Neversink Semi-strict? /s

[sage scroll]

ok

how long will mirage league lasts?

[high fossil]

4 months, give or take a week

[vague hemlock]

Hey, come on. There's also the Pohx RF filter.

[grim meteor]

i Just Wonder Why They arent Start Patching Early ??? its not start (Move) if you can enter game (While server closed 🙂 ) Some People Have poor İnternet speed, Some Bussy When announced Etc. Etc. PLs Hype This message Ty.

[cloud galleon]

they released the torrent for this

[grim meteor]

🙂 Whatever Why i close my internet speed For Whole game again? we are User and GGG is Provider They must find diffrent ways For Baahhh Whatever over 15 Leauge its still Same every Patch time i break Game This time much much earlier Before Start ( Not after 2 week)

[sage scroll]

do we get the update few hours early on steam

[high fossil]

Yes, steam patching starts 2-2.5 hours before the league launch

There will be announcements on this server

[proven cosmos]

oh god, i still dont know what i wanna play

[sage scroll]

thats amazing <3

[high fossil]

Better pick soon, or it'll be TS for you

[proven cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-external-anime-angry-gif-15030828

[frank gate]

I finally made my choice last night.

I'm gonna be a Mine User.

[civic vapor]

anyone had thoughts on using mjolnir with the new lightening gems?

[woeful glen]

can't decide between Kinetic Blast of Clustering Necromancer and Kinetic Fusillade Ballista Hierophant builds. which would be most noob friendly? only played one POE league a bit.

[high fossil]

My money is on the Heirophant

[open halo]

Have they released data on all runegrafts?

[sonic field]

no

[sage scroll]

ill be going holy smite champ by jorgen
hopefully it'll be good

[sonic field]

and they wont

it will be datamined on update

[open halo]

Ah damn

[sonic field]

update drops 3h before release so you should have plenty time to look through them

[open halo]

Update is at 00:30 for me

So at 21:30?

[sonic field]

yeah

[open halo]

Dang won't be able to look then

[gleaming zodiac]

Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F> time are displayed in your local timezone
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>

[open halo]

I'll check it out in the morning

[sonic field]

bros farming for the mod role

[open halo]

How much do players who start after 2 weeks suffer compared to those who start day 1?

Like in terms of making currency

[gleaming zodiac]

🤣 no i just love doing that every league start it makes the time goes faster

[sonic field]

between a lot and not at all depending on how much you compare yourself to others

[woeful glen]

if you don't think about profits in a game which resets every 3-4 months - you won't suffer.

[open halo]

I'll most prolly play something under 30 divs then

I hate acts and atlas

That's like the most time I spend on in game

[high fossil]

That leaves what, hideout? Delve?

[open halo]

I don't mind crafting

It's fun for me

[woeful glen]

did you try survival crafting games?

[open halo]

It's really good because of the new faustus tabs

Don't have to be online

Just craft and dump

[open halo]

Minecraft?

Or smth like ark?

[woeful glen]

well, there are literally tons of them 🙂

[open halo]

It's not like poe crafting

Poe crafting is complex and fun

But materials are expensive af sometimes

I'm looking forward to the clusters we can craft this league

[warped trellis]

Will Berserker Earthshatter still be a good-decent HC SSF starter despite the nerfs?

[lunar lark]

do i be sensible and go with something reliable or do i league start flicker strike

[prime tree]

ben seems to think so

[high fossil]

Start flicker reliquarian, free frenzy on crit

(from merc lab 😬 )

[open halo]

How do aurastackers get dps?

[cloud galleon]

from their auras i believe

which cost stacks

[open halo]

So just auras and smite

[warped trellis]

oh that's his starter?!

[open halo]

What's stacks?

[cloud galleon]

money

[warped trellis]

Oh I just saw his run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTfemHyesQ

[open halo]

Reliquarian aura stacker will be crazy

[cloud galleon]

are those 40 ads

hell yeah

[open halo]

Do we get ff jewels for scion?

[cloud galleon]

will it be better than ascendant aura stacker tho

[abstract token]

Fellas. What time does queue popnusually? Is there an average time?

[open halo]

I'm assuming we get ff jewels

[high fossil]

Scion yes, but only for ascendant nodes. Not for reliquarian

[open halo]

And grab the champion node through ff jewels

[lunar lark]

true, but, gladiator bleed explosions though

[open halo]

Yass

Slay

[cloud galleon]

huh, i guess it could happen then

[high fossil]

Valid point

[lunar lark]

used to being lazy and building cws chieftain every league to turn my brain off and farm harbis but they got rid of the blue man group

[sonic field]

just do other cws content

like ulti it was designed for

or simus

[lunar lark]

takin it as a sign to league start somethin' different lol

flicker go brr

[sonic field]

fair

[open halo]

Flamewood totems

Join me

[lunar lark]

pizza totems alive?

[open halo]

Flamewood totems might be clunky af but the tanky and dps is unmatched for budget

[rare gulch]

Does anyone have a beginner friendly POB for flicker?

[prime tree]

pizza totems pretty much unchanged except for shorter delay between "casting" the totem and it starting to cast the spell i guess. targeting range also a bit increased apparently 🤷

[sonic field]

• beginner friendly
• flicker
  yeah these dont match

[rare gulch]

I’ve done one league with flicker and I know you only swap into it later, but still. I played a good amount of PoE2 but am still a super noob at POE1

[high fossil]

You open PoB and it just says "don't"

[sonic field]

and the pob is kf totems instead

[lunar lark]

flicker is very much the "we ball" kind of skill. because you have no control of your positioning while flickering. you are all speed, no brakes, moth that just saw a lamp gaming

so in order to survive with it you need to understand defenses

thats why its not noob friendly

[high fossil]

I don't know of a beginner-friendly flicker guide going around, but Magefist plays a lot of flicker, if i recall correctly? Maybe check his youtube for some recent resources

[rare gulch]

Thanks!

Anyone else has a big mana they recommend? Might want to do more of a mage thing if not flicker

[sonic field]

goratha has a guide

[high fossil]

There's a bunch of "different" build guides around that are all just variations of archmage heirophants, with different spells

[bitter vessel]

is reliquarian gonna be a bait guys

[high fossil]

Tough way to start, possible wild combos once you have some gear to use on it

I reckon it'll be 20% of the league in 3 weeks time

[bitter vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-anotado-noted-noted-gato-noted-cat-gif-15232071836705052766

[bitter vessel]

wild

this season is the first time I wanted to make my own build, reliquarian makes it extra hard already

[high fossil]

Well i am delirious from lack of sleep, so... grain of salt with that prediction

But i do see potential in there

[bitter vessel]

make sure to get sleep before season starts tho

the uniques of reliquarian surely stack, right?
as in: tree node widowhail can stack with an actual widowhail item

[lunar lark]

🤔

[hollow osprey]

You used to do it with Terminus Est

Or Oro's Sacrifice

Nowadays I'd say getting a Farrul isn't hard either

[cloud galleon]

holy sweep with writhing worm flask for extra hammers on a big target

[hollow osprey]

God damn it what year is this
Sweep build

I still can't believe we are getting Sweep 3.0

[cloud galleon]

i can't believe it's basically the same as before but with an extra hit lol

and less flexible because of lightning conversion

[lunar lark]

i think i'm gonna be stupid and flicker reliquarian

[cloud galleon]

what other way is there to summon enemies?

[chilly depot]

He said beginner friendly not league start

Which I agree, it can be a trap for beginners especially once you hit late yellow/ early red maps a new player isn't going to know how to solve the issues that will happen with flicker

[silent heart]

I dont think flicker is that beginner friendly...especiallly when you reach yellow-red map,if you have no idea what item to buy yoy r kinda cooked

The building path for flicker is really that janky

[hollow osprey]

Those are the same sentence

[chilly depot]

No they arent, beginner= new player

[chilly depot]

Could you not call me out

[chilly depot]

I've got 2 backup plans if sweep is bad, and it's hammers or divine blast so I'm praying one of them is good

[autumn stirrup]

Dont worry guys with the new currency buff we will have atleast 5 chaos when we reach maps

[merry anchor]

sounds like 3 bait

[autumn stirrup]

HOLY HAMMER TIME BABY

[chilly depot]

On jugg yes sir, if the first 2 builds are bad

[mossy matrix]

And 2 divines

[autumn stirrup]

Soon we find out. Hype

[autumn stirrup]

Last league I didnt even find a div till like t16 maps

[mossy matrix]

But tbh getting 5 chaos is not that hard in campaign unless you really skip things

[mossy matrix]

True, the moment I got divine I sold enough to actually not be that hyped by dropping one

[autumn stirrup]

Haha yeah exactly, already rocking a 100 div build and getting that drop wasnt that exciting but atleast it dropped!

[cloud galleon]

is there any reasonable way to give power charges to general's cry guys?

[mossy matrix]

No

[rose dragon]

<@&174997701513969665>

[cloud galleon]

i'm all of those things what are we building buddy

[mossy matrix]

Easy report

[cloud galleon]

makes sense

[frank pike]

lets become hideout warrior and craft to a mirror or sth

[autumn stirrup]

Les build a thorns build.

[frank pike]

and they're gone

yippee

[cloud galleon]

they banned my new business partner in the world of online business. tragedy

[sterile brook]

no business

[frank pike]

Aria, you were a shitty scamming bot, but you were kinda funny unintentionally, you will not be missed, R.I.P

[mossy matrix]

My business is flipping div cards in the hideout 🙂

[sterile hazel]

yea i rember the time i did like 20k ventor gamle cards to get rings for disechanting and some good rolls XD was pain AF to trade them in

[frank pike]

now it'll be a lot better

do it again this league

trust

you'll profit 372%

[cloud galleon]

99% of ventor's stop gambling right when they're about to get a perfect roll

[sterile hazel]

in all those i got only like one really good one still sold for only around 30D but disechanting into dust made most of the money back

[heavy estuary]

Knowing my luck perfect roll = 0 mod item

[cloud galleon]

that's honestly the most expensive ventor's you can get

[mossy matrix]

max roll ventor's exist though

but min or 0 mod

[placid island]

Anyone that has experience with chaos recicpe enhancer and why it does not seem to want to login for me? Been a while since i last used it and now i can't seem to get it working

[frank pike]

if you roll a 0mod ventor, some collector might just buy it for 100div

cuz it's that funny

[jaunty sapphire]

A fast Int or Dex based melee? I try to convert my Slam/Cyclone-only GF

[stoic sage]

I'm thinking of playing One of this builds, which would be easier for a noob slow player to gear and do content in endgame?
Ronarray's Slayer cyclone
Ruetoo's Elemental Hit Slayer (Melee)

[placid meadow]

Isn’t ruetoo a cat?🐈

[heavy estuary]

More like 20 mirrors

[frank pike]

empy might pay a few mirrors at the end of the league for his meme museum

[rotund pine]

😭 no way best weapon effect is free

[sharp galleon]

Hype hype!

[bright arch]

a copycat

[rotund pine]

[zinc oxide]

I have a question...why the reliquarian doesnt appear on POB yet?

[proud heart]

league start's almost here... am I hyped for the league, or depressed because I'm starting rolling magma?

[golden orbit]

Options -> Opt-In to Weekly Beta Test builds

Should show relquarian

[steel halo]

wdym

[rotund pine]

"best weapon effect is free"

[barren silo]

rolling magma >>> concoctions

[elfin plinth]

could't find my in patch notes, anyone knows in what Act Holy Hammers is suppose to be in? ty

[cloud galleon]

Just don't start rolling magma

[golden orbit]

No information. But generally GGG put skills of similar archtypes in separate acts. We know holy strike is act 1, holy sweep end of act 1. Dom blow is act 3. So most likely act 2?

[cloud galleon]

It's in the patchnotes

Nvm it's not

My bad

[sonic field]

there was in ziggy's reveal somewhat

[cloud galleon]

The rest of them are

[sonic field]

its from gravicius act3

[sonic field]

act 2 doesnt really have main skills in it

mainly heralds and other non aura reserves

there are some exceptions but its very few of them

[steel halo]

where and how to get

[upper dragon]

i'm both old and not old player (i first tried around perandus league then 3.0 scared me off for a few leagues cause a whole 6 campaigns was intimidating to me, i'm basically an uber casual) but the tribute to glacial hammer gave me the feels.

[rotund pine]

twitch drop, u prob missed it

[upper dragon]

yeah, its been over a week plus new ones in a few hours

[strange leaf]

You can take almost any skill you want through the acts.

You don’t have to listen to a streamer word for word, crazy take I know

[steel halo]

sadge

[upper dragon]

see kinetic fusilage ballista, likely go it. streamer says go up with leveling skills. be me in testing, go down and rush the skill duration node so i can use the skill as soon as possible even if its slower (and does not good damage). but still i was getting them to no charge at the start of act 2. if you get some good weapons and armor with plus damage, might be pretty smooth

instead of waiting till level 40

though actual leaguestart i likely will still go up cause not having ANY damage nodes is rough

[proud heart]

you can, but I've tried plenty and the unfortunate reality is that RM is most deeps by a good margin out of what I've tried

[upper dragon]

"but is it fun"

[proud heart]

hell no, but the campaign never is, so it's just about getting through it as quickly as possible

[upper dragon]

hear about how RF guys might have a new ST skill

that works almost just like the old one but with additional beams

[chilly depot]

At least isn't a slog like poe2

[manic kernel]

https://www.twitch.tv/crouching_tuna/clip/SarcasticBoxyPonyVoteNay-x5LoPtYUGTg2rbZT

i feel that way mostly

[blazing zealot]

I saw people will go Berzerker or Templar HolyHammer. I wanna blast maps and farm, not really looking for min maxed boss damage. Should i go Zerk? What are the main diferences?

[manic kernel]

jus open ur pob and cook up two versions with those skills u wanna try, u will get ur answer

[upper dragon]

for the most part i'm part of the wing it crowd, so i have no interest in min-maxing, mainly just playing around and seeing what works so i don't mind taking my time in the campaign.

[chilly depot]

Templar is going crit based and zerker is got rt and romiras banquet

[manic kernel]

yea eventually, u just know what u need as ur playing, u feel the need for speccing tree for what u need at the time, wing it

[blazing zealot]

Whats rt and romiras banquet? Id prefer attack speed stack + aoe stack for better clearing

[manic kernel]

Crit vs Non Crit Resolute Technique

[upper dragon]

unfortunately i'm not entirely there yet. only 1.5k hours

[chilly depot]

And romiras banquet gives power charge on not crit hit

[blazing zealot]

I see

[manic kernel]

hehe, i just spec survival and then rely on support gems as the main dmg

[chilly depot]

So you'll always have power charges after the first hit

[manic kernel]

until acts are done

as u feel u are able to survive more reliably, spec ur dmg nodes

[blazing zealot]

So what im getting is, you can go crit and non crit, but neither is better than the other?

For map clearing/farm

[upper dragon]

one of the weirdest wing its i did was i think in mercenary where i saw the guardian got more reservation and i saw free real estate and shoved all the heralds and spammed absolution, did it do good damage? no. but i had a merc by my side

[hollow osprey]

Divine Blast is gonna be so miserable to play with

[manic kernel]

crit, in general, has a higher ceiling of damage to be reached, whereas noncrit relies on pure dmg which hits a ceiling pretty fast and lower than crit, not sure how these two would work for those two skills u mentioned

[hollow osprey]

It desperately need

1. less duration, so socket Less Duration
2. alot of AoE

[blazing zealot]

Well its Holy Hammer. Its a new skill so idk either. Ik it has phys conversion and its lightning based

[manic kernel]

i absolutely used all auras i could on my merc, and kept 1 on me, Pride, for my watchers eye, and loaded merc with aura effect gear

[upper dragon]

i never party so i wanted to experience being the aurabot. even with like 5 heralds on me i had a couple aura's on it was nuts

[hollow osprey]

I would say modern non-crit builds can be very competitive
Of course crit will always be the prefer option but there's tons of other non-crit stuffs you can mess with

Its why Precise Technique was born

[lofty crest]

Where can I find the usual leaguestart checklist? Like PoB and filter and such

[manic kernel]

yea it can with the accuracy and evasion typa stacking shenanigans

[paper island]

Do we know around when the update itself drops?

[paper island]

You just mentioned what you needed, or what else?

[gleaming zodiac]

1 hour ish

[paper island]

Thanks, Boss!

[manic kernel]

apparently in 2 minutes a guy was spaming some message idk

[wooden spoke]

is anyone running kf in mirage

[lofty crest]

Is there anything else that I need to consider besides pob/filter. Also, PoB not updating for some reason?

[upper dragon]

ballista or self cast?

[wooden spoke]

ballista

[gleaming zodiac]

servers are not even down yet, patch is usually ~30minutes after server are down

[wooden spoke]

i still cant find a decent guide lol

[upper dragon]

palestron has one and zizaran worked with him so i'm guessing that should be the main one atm

[paper island]

PoB doesnt have the upadte if im not wrong.

[wooden spoke]

https://pobb.in/yU-3-Z0uGzbt this is palestron

[kindred rampart]

palestrons ballista guide is solid

[wooden spoke]

its trash

[paper island]

hmmm.

[manic kernel]

ok thanks

[kindred rampart]

oh damn nvm

[wooden spoke]

cant find a good one , might just do bows like fubgun

[paper island]

Imma do bows on a deadeye too

This league might be a t16 blaster league.

[kindred rampart]

wait if you can look at guides to that level fo scrutiny

why do you need a guide

[paper island]

Thats sadly not how it works...

[wooden spoke]

problem is i did bows 3 times now so really trying to avoid it

[vivid crag]

It does, you need to be opted into the beta testing @lofty crest

if you are already, opt out, in then restart pob

[paper island]

Finding errors in another's work doesnt neccesarily mean you can recreate it.

[paper island]

Ty, where'd you find that setting?`

found the opt inf doe beta, nvm

[kindred rampart]

Finding an error in something that detailed means you should be able to fix

[paper island]

fixing and making your own build is 2 vastly different concepts.

[abstract dust]

we league starting armor stackers right

[kindred rampart]

Yeah, and I'm saying with his knowledge he should be able to fix the build

[paper island]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SteadyStateFinance-steady-state-finance-defi-insurance-mjQB178FsTgiLJUqCU

[vivid crag]

Dumb question but apart from kingsmarch and whatever bloodlines are, is there a lot changed since affliction? i know about async trade

[wooden spoke]

i found this https://youtu.be/grwLJIjoIFI?si=QdoykxbfxLpHYqYW kinda unknown i guess but could be solid

[vivid crag]

Bar the usual core mirage changes

[molten belfry]

yo guys! coming back to poe after a big break and im a bit late for the prep. can someone plz tell me which build is superstrong in lategame and scales very good with great gear? (from a min maxing perspective) idc if its not the best in the beginning. i just want to have a great alrounder later on because i wont level a second char

[kindred rampart]

Uhhh good clear or good bosser

[paper island]

Armour Stacker.

[molten belfry]

sounds good. i like stacking builds. any YT guide recommendation?

[molten belfry]

ideally both 😄

[manic kernel]

btw guys, i made a ladder app to see ur position by class, depth etc and can also see all past leagues and events ladders: try it out n lemme know:
https://poepsn.blogspot.com/2025/08/poe-ladders-leagues-and-events.html

[paper island]

Wander's later on are still great, deadeye wander and Necro KB is gonna be great too.

[kindred rampart]

hmm

[molten belfry]

but i prefer very fast clears.

[kindred rampart]

The armour stacker version of necro KB I'd say has fantastic clear

and is pretty solid defense wise

[paper island]

KB Necro sounds like your call as he says.

It got a very slight nerf but with investment still insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHXOhK28BaI

This is for traditional armour stacker.

[kindred rampart]

necro is just a good ascendancy in general

[molten belfry]

thx guys. appreciate it !

is necro new?

[paper island]

nope its an old one

[kindred rampart]

? necros been around since ascension

[paper island]

It just used to be very one dimensional and now it is being utilised in this way which is relatively new,

[molten belfry]

oh i think i missed that all. was a mad grinder back in the day. will prob go with a nec then!

[astral osprey]

what are your league starters ? havent played poe in a bit

[paper island]

I'll go some form of Deadeye Bows, prolly LA

[abstract dust]

id love to leaguestart minions, but i tried once and the minions just....dont attack until you stand still and thats janky as fuck

[paper island]

sounds interesting, one of my smoothest and cheapest zero to hour is SRS

[astral osprey]

i was thinking heiro but not sure which one to go with

[wooden spoke]

il do that too but progression is a bit annoying

[paper island]

slaps everything on beyond shit gear, dps falls off later but you switch at that point anyways

[abstract dust]

i got to kitava and just hated how the minions just ran around aimlessly until i stood still, it just felt bad

[molten belfry]

oh its a MS armor stacker? i played that already in the past but as a jugg? prob gonna do something else then. is MS even THAT fast? i guess u cant keep up with a fast deadeye build?

[wooden spoke]

i used to hiest this league for the solarine boy sht was goated idk now

[paper island]

Boss progress isnt the biggest worry since we are way faster for most content anyways.

realm closing in 7 minutes, + so lets expect an update in 45-50 minutes

[wooden spoke]

well my main goal is mapping and voidstones allat then make a pathfinder and grind hiest there

[wooden spoke]

update in 5 minutes for me

[paper island]

Deadeye wander is also an option for that then.

[crude crest]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

[wooden spoke]

probably, im still searching

[paper island]

Sec, i might have a build

[lunar lark]

🤔

[paper island]

nvm just checked, it got nerfed

[molten belfry]

omg thats just so much infos. does anyone have maybe 5min for a voice call? which ascension is necro? is it the "witch area" ?

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/league-starter/kinetic-blast-of-clustering-necromancer-league-starter its this one?

[opal gull]

is cold dot good on life stack with rathpith?

[paper island]

witch -> necro

its an ascendancy for witch

[molten belfry]

ok

which build is scaling the most / or has the most upside potential with insane gear?

[tired widget]

yeah it works, same tech as assassin last league. Flicker of Power just doesnt feel as good as regular flicker though

[molten belfry]

and is zooming very fast

[sonic stirrup]

A build that is not league start viable

[molten belfry]

which are these for example so i can check them out

so i take at least the correct ascension in the beginning

[sonic stirrup]

Probably gonna be something different this league

Armour stacker is usually up there in highest investment

But it could be some other stacker

[snow sentinel]

The one you linked is good

[somber arch]

can someone tell me all the benifits of farming legion im newish and this is my first full league

[snow sentinel]

Fast, clears amazingly well

[molten belfry]

ok perfect. is armour stacker always coupled with MS or are there some other main attack options?

[snow sentinel]

Scales hella well

[molten belfry]

dont wanna play the same stuff after returning

[sonic stirrup]

Dunno

Don't keep up with the meta

Just hear stuff sometimes

You can definitely go for something else that scales well

Not sure if MS is that popular anymore

It was VFoS for a bit but not sure if it still is after the nerfs

[abstract dust]

armor stacker requires like a mirror before its even comphy doesnt it

[sonic stirrup]

Well, he asked for it

[sonic stirrup]

And I did say this first

[leaden moss]

Man I'm so hyped

[molten belfry]

i played something similar in the past which was insane. its still top tier?

[cloud galleon]

do not ask chatgpt for things

[molten belfry]

i know... just dont wanna spam the chan here

[cloud galleon]

i think they were talking about minecraft here a while ago. you'll be fine

[snow sentinel]

Just play something you enjoy, all builds scale with enough investment

[leaden moss]

Just roll a fun skill on ssf, this is the best

[cloud galleon]

while that is true

hm

maybe i should just play ssf

[tropic glen]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[cloud galleon]

it's not like my build has any big required uniques

[sonic stirrup]

This is a made up concept

[molten belfry]

i have 4350hours in the game but played the last time ~6 years ago. im clueless rn

[sonic stirrup]

You can play spark at high investment, but not like that

[winged wedge]

I don't get to patch 😭

[upper dragon]

all the more reason to not go to a build guide, just jump in and see whats there, what is old instints will slowly return and you get to not be pressured and learn the new additions

[cloud galleon]

i'd just suggest checking what skill looks fun and browsing poe.ninja for the "top builds" that use it

[molten belfry]

guys has anyone with experience quick 5 min for voice? lol

[upbeat shoal]

This normal?

[snow sentinel]

KBoC Necro, Manaman Hiero, Armor Stacker, all scale well

[cloud galleon]

Strength stacking also didn't get nerfed this patch

[molten belfry]

which attackskill options has the armor stacker? and which ascension is it? slayer?

[blazing zealot]

could zerker, in theory go crit based as an "end league" build?

[cloud galleon]

It's either Champion or Ascendant (or reliquarian ig) and it uses Smite

afaik

[molten belfry]

fuick man im completely lost.

[cloud galleon]

hey man that's a good thing

[hollow crescent]

Armor stacker can be made on many builds

[cloud galleon]

you get to rediscover the game

[molten belfry]

i wanted to take a nap before the start and now i dont even know where to start at

[mellow flare]

i'm getting this too! :(((

what do?

[cloud galleon]

what other examples are there?

[molten belfry]

which is overall stronger and faster in the final form? kboc necro or armor stacker? it will be one of those

[snow sentinel]

Kboc prolly comes online much quicker

[brittle bobcat]

Wait. Try again. Yawn. Repeat.

[cloud galleon]

i guess armor stacker but it'll take a few hundred hours more to get it to top shape

it's expensive

[molten belfry]

thats what i love tbh. like a longterm motivation when im only playing one build anyway

[hollow crescent]

Ya, armor stacker is endgame stuff. And imo you shouldn't league start bc its a waste of time until you have 200+++div in gea

[mellow flare]

you forgot panic

do i have time to go to the store for snacks?

[snow sentinel]

I mean you could just start slayer and pivot to armor stacker champ later on

[molten belfry]

yeah i wont start with it. i just need to know which ascension to choose etc so i have the base for it and can transform later into the build

[brittle bobcat]

I'm thinking of making some breakfast.

[snow sentinel]

Smite slayer is an easy starter

[upbeat shoal]

how many hours til league start?

[molten belfry]

exactly this

[snow sentinel]

So just run smite slayer or ele hit slayer

The Cat has guides on both

[gleaming zodiac]

<t:1772823600:F>

[molten belfry]

which attack skill is the armor stacker using in the final form? smite? and is it FAST? exploding screens? 😄

[mellow flare]

ummm... so we are all gonna be late to league start?

[manic yacht]

Isop mines deadeye or icicle mines of fanning reliquarian 🐴

[tough cipher]

when will I be able to download the patch? I have a potato internet..

[gleaming zodiac]

20ish minutes

[chilly depot]

Yes you got 2 and a half hours

[blazing zealot]

what time does queue open?

1 hour before?

[chilly depot]

GGG will announce it

[molten belfry]

vaez u have by chance 5min for voice? 😄

[gleaming zodiac]

pretty much, but it depends

it could be before, or after it's never at the same time

anyways even if you are like 20,000 in the queue it will take like ~15 minutes max to get in

patch is up on steam and GGG client

[wooden spoke]

i updated but still 2 hours?

[rich badger]

it's weird my POE2 is updating on steam but not POE1

[stoic jetty]

Need to figure out what im actually going to build.... OR i can do 1 more run in slay the spire 2 >.>

[sterile nova]

This, wrong patch!?! 😄

[hidden fulcrum]

does anyone remember what the reason was for heist blueprints being dirt cheap in 3.27? 10c or less compared to 25c in previous leagues

[sterile nova]

PoE 2 downgraded or what is happening? 😄

[wooden spoke]

ok just so i understand LA/EHOS for mapping , tornado shot for ubers?

https://youtu.be/izWIPL8Slvw?si=W9Orknb3qnY8TFRo

[winged wedge]

Am patch now

[queen current]

How's league start? Login queues?

I'm doing a full clean of my PC in preparation lol

[hidden fulcrum]

there is always login queues

[molten belfry]

which version would u say is the strongest?

[kindred rampart]

Doryani's probably

[queen current]

The electric air duster has been an amazing investment lol. Since European compressed air is crap

[fickle sandal]

Is anyone starting detonate dead for league start?

[prisma apex]

do we know when queue starts?

[surreal gust]

Got PTSD from breach in 3.27 will block it end game just cause I need a break

[leaden kite]

does it start LA or swap later?

[wooden spoke]

opposite

ehos then LA when my bow is good enough and hyrri's ire

[molten belfry]

sent u a dm

[gleaming zodiac]

we don't it's anytime from now until league start most likely in more than* ~45ish minutes

[spice gulch]

Any safe reliquarian builds? Even if they arent S tier, but just the core build sounds safe

[surreal gust]

how often do you guys spam login to try to get a good queue spot

[golden orbit]

I do it while watching youtube at 1 minute intervals

[gleaming zodiac]

i do it every 5 minutes personally as it gets closer then every 1-2 minutes, or wait for the ping on discord

queue waiting time is pretty small anyways even if you're high in queue, it's more like a showoff thing on discord to try to get a single digit queue position

[cloud galleon]

Yeah I skipped 3.27 cause I love Breach and didn't wanna tarnish it (?
I'm starting with Breach fortresses then Breach Beyond Deli as usual

Foulborn uniques are gonna be a pretty big market, I get the feeling

[midnight hamlet]

what time is queue

[gleaming zodiac]

anytime from now until league start

[midnight hamlet]

pyroclast mines easy and safe

[boreal flare]

for league starter - is there any recommended chaos skill build? like deaths oath or impending doom or bane or something?

[surreal gust]

Anyone else get a deadlock message opening POE1 from steam?

[golden orbit]

I've seen queue start from 2 houts 10 minutes before til 30 minutes before. Its random.

[molten belfry]

smite armor stacker, kb necro or spark archmage. what is the strongest? 😄

or whih one has the most upside potential?

[brittle bobcat]

Persistent or just happening once? Did it recover?

Any weird overlays or anything?

[wooden spoke]

is anyone running legion next league? might do it new scarab looks broken asf

[spice gulch]

Allie has a reliquarian impending doom that looks fun. I don't always love their guides, but looks interesting.

[finite dove]

did they mention anywhere what kind of crafts the mirage harvests let you do?

[surreal gust]

persistent, Exception: deadlock detected, after I launch I see a black screen, POE cursor then deadlock. I'm running POE on a potato

[midnight hamlet]

ctrl + alt +escape

end deadlock process, or end steam process and retry

most likely anticheat prevention of some form

[proper pendant]

Have you guys decided what to play yet ? 😄

[kindred ether]

Does anyone know the local time for mirage?

[late otter]

When will the queue start

[mossy halo]

deadlock detected error?? 😮

what the hell

[barren smelt]

mirage update dropped?

[brittle bobcat]

What kind of GPU? Do you have overlays like Overwolf or PoE Overlay or something?

[mossy halo]

ye

[boreal flare]

i see thanks
lordgrim has chaos dot (soulrend, blight)
ky has blight

i never watched them - do you recommend allies over them?

[eager charm]

2hr and 12min

[barren smelt]

does exiled exchange also work for poe1?

[brittle bobcat]

If you leave the popup alone, does the game eventually load up?

[brittle bobcat]

EE2 is a PoE2 version of the original Awakened PoE Trade tool for PoE1.