1┃mirage-league

[frank gate]

It starts at around Noon on Friday PST. There is a countdown at https://www.pathofexile.com/

[mint lark]

THanks for the reply! Will check that out

[high fossil]

it's definitely the ideal build for what you've asked. Minimal buttons, nice and tanky, and Pohx's guide explains absolutely everything you need to know.

Plus the skill concept is "i'm on fire and that's everyone else's problem", which is just fun to do

[mint lark]

Sould fair! I like that, been playing sorc spark, Monk flicker and Druid Wyvern/entangle in Poe2.

[lapis citrus]

is there something easier to play and more tanky than necro poison srs? i play hc only and want an easy build to get to t16 and do all content

[frank adder]

Does anyone here cook some starting atlas progress planner?

Ive been looking at one myself but cant rly decide if i want to go for breach+kalguur(ores) and a third option either essence or betreyal? (Doing bleed slam slayer or trickster exsang/reap as starter build)

This is the betreyal version: https://poeplanner.com/a/6dAu
This is the essence version: https://poeplanner.com/a/6dAW

Any thoughts or recommendations?

Betreyal seems nice for xp both char and gem + bonuses like fractured veiled mods and a few safehouses to drop medallion + foulborn trapped chests!

Essence with the new mirage mechanic could be nice to just get duplicate + new essence!

[young knoll]

i didnt play keepers league, is there anything i need to know specific about the new breach?

[obsidian bison]

one question this build is good? https://pobb.in/Kx6Rdj6cBhOK

[frank adder]

KBoC necro is rly strong starter, but if you are new to the game you would need to follow a good guide tbh

This node is stupid good

from Cruel lab

[lapis citrus]

is there something easier to play and more tanky than necro poison srs? i play hc only and want an easy build to get to t16 and do all content

[frank adder]

Bleed slam slayer seems good for hc content, great overleech and great damage, also bleed is a super good ailment to use cause you dont need to put pressure constantly on targets they can bleed out

[lapis citrus]

people told me it's harder to play than srs because you have to use more buttons

[frank adder]

using buttons is not hard? wth xD

also the buttons youre using are warcries mostly and cast vulnerability?

and its optional to use buttons.. only for pinnacle bosses you do full rotation of that stuff, for mapping and that kind of content you just slam away and go next 😛

[lapis citrus]

SRS is one button only, maybe the curse

[frank adder]

one button is incredibly boring

[lapis citrus]

what about hiero archmage?

[frank adder]

sure, great build and scales super good

no idea on hc though

i feel armor, life, charges, overleech, bleed is just great for hc in general

[livid birch]

you're probably better off doing a jugg build if you want reliable death mechanic removal

[livid birch]

mjolner cyclone is 1 button but also frontblink dodging I guess

[lapis citrus]

like bleed boneshatter?

[humble hornet]

play RF, get to maps reroll

simple day 1 strat

swap RF for sunder if you pref that

[livid birch]

I think like zenith but yeah sure basically most of them if it's not super self damaging

[frank adder]

sunder is amazing to lvl with lol

[humble hornet]

ill legit be Zerk sunder till maps

easy W

[frank adder]

just keep upgrading ur weapon as you go 😄

im slayer sunder all the way to pinnacle bosses

[humble hornet]

^ This

legit this for all new players

[lapis citrus]

can you guys send me a guide?

[frank adder]

might swap in groundslam of es for more coverage or i can just play narrow maps 😄

[lapis citrus]

i never played without following a guide

[frank adder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kmz88dm5Zw
This is a great guide with easy to follow information 🙂

Check comment section for validation, he is a trusted build creator

[livid birch]

isn't slayer a little squishy

[frank adder]

If im not doing this, im exsang reap trickster mines!

[lapis citrus]

i want the most tanky viable option tbh

[frank adder]

nah you got lots of overleech which is rly good and you can just pack on tons of life/armour/maxres/charges etc

get that suppress to 100 with clusters and jewels

think its like 30 from clusters, 70 from gear or smthing

[lapis citrus]

idk how jewels farming work

[frank adder]

youre hc ssf?

[lapis citrus]

just hc

[frank adder]

then dont need to farm

just buy 😛

They arent expensive at all

[lapis citrus]

btw hiero shock nova from goratha seems more tanky, like way more

you sure ground slam slayer is more tanky than that?

[frank adder]

no idea 🙂

[lapis citrus]

fair enough

[frank adder]

There is nothing stopping you from making a build tankier

[lapis citrus]

except not knowing all mechanics?

i have 600h, i'm mostly casual tho

only got to red maps and never made a build myself

[frank adder]

Yeah I would never play hc if I didnt have great knowledge of a game and how mechanics worked etc

But there are def tankier builds than a slayer slam 😄

[lapis citrus]

the adrenaline man

[lapis citrus]

like?

[frank adder]

anything with block

gladiator is super tanky ascendancy with lucky block

[feral basalt]

Typical HC starters are cyclone champion (i prefer this with impale as my starter), hierophant mana stacker, any RF build, any jugg build

I see a lot of totem builds as well

Guardian is also going to be very popular this league, and is very tanky

[lapis citrus]

So hiero shock nova / kb is viable for hc?

[feral basalt]

One of the best hc speed runners on PS is going heiro shock nova.

It's got great map clear

[lapis citrus]

I care more about being immortal tbh, it seems really tanky

[feral basalt]

Well yeah, any HC has to be tanky.

It's a little squishy early game, but as long as you don't make any dumb mistakes you should be good

[wide pollen]

Any content creator has a good guide for league start necro kboc?

[lapis citrus]

Early game? Like during acts or white maps?

[feral basalt]

In acts

Basically into you get your first 2 labs

Or until you take the skill tree notable that takes 40% of your damage taken from mana.

[nova kiln]

guys who is really trusted to follow for ele hit Slayer pob ?

[livid birch]

the most comfy tanky build I ever had was blood magic rakiata jugg because you could just objectively ignore like 60% of all ultimatum modifiers

[sage scroll]

is it better to league start with RF chief
then get some currency buy stuff for delve character and make that one?
or just run smite duelist and do delve upgrade from start

[livid birch]

literally jung lol https://mobalytics.gg/poe/builds/jungroan-kinetic-blast-of-clustering-necromancer

[strange leaf]

Rf can delve but it depends on how deep you want to go

[sage scroll]

whats the best depth for farming currency

never really played delved tbh

[strange leaf]

Check out jorgen he made two great delve guides this week on YouTube

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_K8DdmWXbjk

[livid birch]

pretty much the deepest one that doesnt slow you down afaik

[strange leaf]

And https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh_U-_oHlwE

[livid birch]

they just keep scaling in how much asurite youre getting which you can convert to fossils to sell

[strange leaf]

If you are new to delve those videos are great

[mental nimbus]

just double checkign that terrible tree doesnt exist still does it

[prime tree]

which one? genesis? Still there.

[mental nimbus]

the one that drops those items and currency

[prime tree]

nerfed, but we don't know how much yet.

[nimble gyro]

Alright. I'm an RF enjoying senior citizen who only plays one build per league. I'm probably gonna play RF again, but I just wanted to ask... should I consider any other build this league?

[agile hemlock]

Not more so than any other league tbh

[livid birch]

mjolner cyclone is also um... accessible

so to speak

[nimble gyro]

Cyclone builds were what I played when I was just playing the game for fun and doing whatever I wanted.

Might look into it. Before RF I was a FP totem enjoyer.

[sage scroll]

will currency drop much more now in regular mapping?

t16 maps

[hasty perch]

Yes

And you want to know the funny part?

If everyone has double the currency then no one has

In trade at least. In ssf its actually a buff

[sage scroll]

ya ur right

how far can RF chief delve

[hasty perch]

not that deep i think

probably runs into dps problems on nodes

[sage scroll]

ya rf does have very bad single target

is jorgen a good build maker?

thinking of following this league starter to endgame guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9I6wLRe2Uk

for delve ofcourse :)

[quaint ember]

I'm going to play Death's Oath

seems like a great build for anything except ultimatum and bossing

[sage scroll]

is it this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLsyO841JG0

[quaint ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1rpUtNtHb4
this one actually

but i'll check that bideo out

[sage scroll]

looks fun

is there any leveling video for it

[glacial wolf]

Heyo does anyone know if mirage works with delirium? Im going shield crush but im not quite sure what to actualy go atlas wise

[gleaming zodiac]

RF might? be even better with the exploding totems 😁
if you only do one build per league you should do RF if that's what your comfy with otherwise you might end up with a meh build that you don't like and quit the league few days in 😅

[prime tree]

in the ziz interview they said it'll work. how exactly tho, no idea. i think there'll just be another mirror of delirium in the mirage if you had one in the parent map.

[glacial wolf]

Sweet! Think ill be doing delirium then seems to be decent

[prime tree]

not sure how useful an additional mirror of delirium is gonna be in the small mirage zones tho

[gleaming zodiac]

they said if you entered a mirror of delirium it should be in mirage too (that's their plan, but they were not sure if that was in yet or at all iirc from the interview)

so it might be different 🤷‍♂️

kinda sucks that the mirage is a separate area entirely tho 😭 i hate extra loads

[prime tree]

https://youtu.be/1vRHUP9P6tI?t=503 veeeeeeeeery thin on the details on how it works

the intention is that if there is a delirium mirror in the overworld that you interacted with, then there is one in the Mirage

[quaint ember]

I don't think so but I can finish the campaign in like 5 hours with winter orb

[glacial wolf]

hmm true not sure what else would eb decent for shield crush to farm tho and delirium seems pretty simple for me to just play lol

[glacial wolf]

damn yeah barely any lmfao

[prime tree]

i'd be surprised if the current state of your delirium carries over to the new instance of the mirage.

[gleaming zodiac]

it won't like i said it's a completely different child area (with a loading screen), you'll lose all your shrines/buffs/minions upon entering, there's no way they can keep delirium progression throught these

[glacial wolf]

huh that sucks

[prime tree]

just run fully miraged maps

[glacial wolf]

Is that a thing?

[prime tree]

yes, map bosses in the mirage can drop maps which will have the mirage in them affect the entire map. So, double the map basically.

[glacial wolf]

oh damn thats sick

[quaint ember]

double the map

isn't that what we had in the scourge league?

except it was every map

you just pressed a button and there were monsters everywhere again

[gleaming zodiac]

pretty much but it was not doubling mechanics tho

[quaint ember]

well this league they're not doubling alva

and I love temple

I'm very sad about it

[gleaming zodiac]

yeah that's unfortunate all the masters mission are not doubled 😭 , niko, alva, einhar, jun
would have been fun for beasts and jun too lol

[quaint ember]

my bleeding heart

[merry anchor]

looks like back to harvest

[winged wedge]

dammit the challenge rewards are nice

dammit

[quaint ember]

yeah i'm getting 40/40 this league just for the love of the game

even if it's the last thing i'll ever do

[plush coyote]

they only make good rewards for good legs

[winged wedge]

Okay, then what build is likely to go all the way with little friction from campaign to endgame? I'm not talking budget, just "gearing up is common sense and doesn't require careful crafting or rare uniques"

[plush coyote]

cyclone shockwave

you can discard attack speed modifiers on weapons and just get a lot of damage on hit

you move while you attack

[winged wedge]

Retaliate Glad, for example, is too slow for my tastes but doesn't require odd gear or crafting, and is super tanky

[plush coyote]

has good area

[quaint ember]

most spell builds

spells you just level up your gem, maybe get +1 to gem level and added damage to spells on your wand or sceptre

and go to town

[winged wedge]

I mean I could be a metalet and go KF totem like all the other kids

I don't want to be ostracized

[plush coyote]

then go unarmed melee

[gleaming zodiac]

yep challenges rewards looks pretty nice, they usually looks pretty meh

[quaint ember]

I've never done a doriany's fist build before

maybe I should give it a shot

[robust fjord]

is viper mamba dead?

[quaint ember]

not really

just nerfed

[nova kiln]

is Ruetoo Trusted for builds or bait ?

[sonic field]

not at all

[sonic field]

trusted but not newbie friendly

[nova kiln]

i want to try the ele hit Slayer

i might try to give it a try in Standard first to see if i might like it

[neat carbon]

do you guys think penance brand elementalist will still be decent this league or should I aim for a different build?

[onyx knoll]

RF

[sick pilot]

He's one of the handful good build makers, but yeah not noob friendly

[nova kiln]

what do you think about ele hit Slayer ?

[merry anchor]

its what im starting as

[sonic field]

should be fine

[sick pilot]

From what I've seen, it's cracked if you know what you're doing. People already practice with that build and it's reaaallly good.

[nova kiln]

i am afaraid someone Said this idk if it is True or not

[sick pilot]

That's just fake news imho

[merry anchor]

doomer

there are also other build creators that have guides for it if you dont like how his pob looks

[sonic field]

tbh its quite the opposite, its the phrecia version that lacked in defenses

rue himself admitted that and said he learnt from his mistakes making the slayer pob for this patch

[quaint ember]

git gud

[nova kiln]

mr pro i am noob learning the game

[nova kiln]

thx a lot for ur time bro ! ❤️

appreciate it

will give it a try !

[quaint ember]

no I meant the guy in the comment

[nova kiln]

ah okay i though you are mocking me for Some reason

my bad then

[sick pilot]

Im just rolling with impending doom hextoads and praying to Chris Wilson xdd

Ure good with Rue build

[merry anchor]

hes sipping a margarita on a beach watching you suffer

you specifically

[sick pilot]

Hopefully I wont sip margarita on beach aswell xD

[merry anchor]

if your there, your not blasting on league launch

[sick pilot]

Well we all start on beach

[merry anchor]

i feel like my luck is i would wash up on that shore with a stick in my butt

[sick pilot]

That's reserved for minion players

[merry anchor]

lol

thank god

im not a minion enjoyer

[royal siren]

What's best build to play?

[merry anchor]

subjective question

its all based on what playstyle you enjoy

[merry anchor]

what experience do you have in game and what kind of builds do you enjoy from other games similar to poe?

[lilac dock]

Do we have foulborn items in mirage, or they were exclusive to keepers of the flame?

[merry anchor]

foulborns are in the game

i think you need to run breach content to get them

[lilac dock]

Alright, now i actually consider doing poison holy relic starter again, because foulborn sword will be infinite times cheaper than dialla's cloak

[red totem]

Did we get any info on where we'll get the new gems in game, and for which characters?

[torpid turtle]

Stupid question maybe, but do we know if we can support holy strikes armaments with the melee splash support gem? Considering they use the actual holy strike skill aswell

[merry anchor]

the new greater gems?

[gleaming zodiac]

if you don't want to worry about anything you can just do RF it's pretty easy build with the best guide available for it (but it's kinda boring to play)

[sick pilot]

We just know Hextoads are from Nameless King...so Ritual boss, and most likely other bosses

[red totem]

I meant the holy skills

[sick pilot]

Nvm then

[red totem]

Thanks anyway 🙂

[merry anchor]

i know holy strike is the new templar starting skill

most likely just get them from vendor npc as you go through campaign

[red totem]

I saw that as well, was wondering if they said anything about the others. I guess we'll see when the league starts, and worst case is act 3 or 6 🤷

[merry anchor]

the only one that wont be offered through campaign will be the new static strike which will be through the lab

as its a transfigured gem variant

[red totem]

I'm getting baited by Divine Blast. Maybe worst case I'll start with shield crush and transition whenever I get it

I like levelling with the skill I wanna play

[merry anchor]

i dont wanna get baited by any new skills just yet so im doing a normal build then maybe swap after someone else figures them out

[red totem]

I've been starting slams for too many leagues, I wanna change a bit. It's not like I'm racing for the economy anyway, I'd rather have fun discovering

Plus, numbers look good, might hit 100% crit chance around level 60 to 70. Emperor's Vigilance might be BiS, or at least a very good option, and it's pretty cheap on league start

[merry anchor]

i think the league start meta is very stale. been the same thing forever

[red totem]

I admit it's been a bit stale for some time, but there are new builds coming every league. It's mostly that I have strict tastes x)

You won't see me touching totems with 10 foot pole

I've also been praying for a chaos hit/dot buff for way too long, I already have copium in my blood for 3.29

[sick pilot]

It's stale mostly just because people refuse to try new things tho. They wanna do the same thing that has always worked again and again. Which is sad xD

[red totem]

I also agree. Shield Crush has been a really good levelling skill, but I basically have seen two other people play it

Building defense and offense together is really comfy for campaign

[merry anchor]

my league starts are ususually something that worked last league that i didnt touch at all. so it might be old stale meta but i havent played it in like 2 or three leagues so it feels fine for me

but im not a slam every league start kind of player

[cold monolith]

what do you think would be best as an ascendancy for a fire blast of trarthus and conflegrate build ? (bow fire dmg over time). before elementalist was good but now...

[sick pilot]

Im league starting with Blight for like 6th time in a row till Act 3 swap for better spells... just because I like playing skills I wanna use in the endgame as soon as possible.

[merry anchor]

im not good at dot builds so i cant help there

[red totem]

I think elementalist might still be good. The nerf to golems was coming from a mile away, and it's not like it's bad even with it

[cold monolith]

no issue

[sick pilot]

Isnt ignite gutted? They already admitted it sucks and they wanna buff it next patch.

[rotund patio]

"Removed all crafts that Enchant Flasks from the Horticrafting Bench. Existing items with these Enchantments are unaffected."

[red totem]

She still has a good kit, nice adaptability, good all rounder. For a fire dot build, I'd still go for her with Shaper of Flames, golems

[rotund patio]

The enchants are still available throug the currencies?

[cold monolith]

I don't think it's ignite it's only fire dmg over time ?

i need to check

[sick pilot]

Nvm then

[red totem]

And Heart of Destruction or Bastion of Elements, depending on what you need atm

[prime tree]

horti enchants are not the ones from the crafting bench (eg. used when charges reach full)

[red totem]

Also best spot for ignite on the tree

[cold monolith]

I mean it's not amazing either way I just didn't know what to play and it seemed cool looling at dreadful videos but the golem nerf is so big

[rotund patio]

ah u are right

[prime tree]

these were ones like "+100 max charges, -1 max charge on use"

[sick pilot]

Also the lovely 3% regen craft

[red totem]

The golem nerf isn't the biggest deal with conflagrate, it's the playstyle. You love it or hate it, it's very special. Also puts you at way more risks than a "normal" ranged attack, so you need to be prepared to build some tankiness or use more portals

[cold monolith]

I never played it before, it looked cool at least

thx for the info

[sick pilot]

laughs at bow players
I saw Fub die like 5 times recording his league start vid and I couldnt stop laughing

[red totem]

I'd recommend giving it a go before you league start it. I'm not saying it's bad, just that it's not for everyone.

Having to run towards your arrow is not the most intuitive thing, some people hate delayed damage

[cold monolith]

make sense I can probably try out a few skills

[red totem]

I'm saying all that, but still going for Divine Blast starter, sooo... I'll be the fool of someone I guess x)

[sick pilot]

Yeah, bow players will laugh at my 90%ms with no HH

[cold monolith]

scorching ray totem is my favourite but idk how to make it very good

I hope they buff it one day

it's playable definitely

[red totem]

You mean 90% bonus ms, right? Not total... RIGHT?

[sick pilot]

Surely

[cold monolith]

I saw the ascendancy sarech gave lvl 1 cruelty to main handed weapon

so I was looking at what could be cool with it

[sick pilot]

Am I the only one thinking Saresh bloodline is poop? Besides the defiance at home node

[royal dove]

Oh, great, now the owners of the PoE Reddit have also added that awful automod that just goes around collecting reports and banning everyone to the PoE 1 subreddit too. RIP in peace, /r/pathofexile, you are now as enshitified as /r/pathofexile2

[red totem]

I found the best teacher is trying. Maybe not as a league starter, but when I start to slow down on a league, I like to pick a skill or an item I think will be fun and build something around it. Sometimes I hit a brick wall, but sometimes I find something really nice. It's great at teaching you where to look on the skill tree, the items, and how to build something new by yourself.

[cold monolith]

I always made up my own build

it makes for tough start

and slow

though

probably not a good idea

[red totem]

Are you having fun?

[cold monolith]

unless my build is mega poop

yeah

[red totem]

Then I think it's a great idea

[cold monolith]

im not a great builder

I kinda suck at it still

youtuber they make amazing stuff

[red totem]

There's no need for meta and racing and shit like if you have fun some other way. It's a game, after all 👀

[cold monolith]

what will you do

[red totem]

Yeah, but I doubt they made amazing stuff on their first week or even year playing. Plus, you'll always find someone better at something, there's no need to compare yourself. Just try to do better!

[cold monolith]

I wanted to league start flamethrower trap but I've seen several video it's probably the worst skill of the game so I need to calm down and not pick something too shitty

[red totem]

As a league starter?

[cold monolith]

yeah

[red totem]

Gonna try the new Divine Blast with Inquisitor. Plan is to cap crit ASAP and scale with crit multi. Still hesitating on going full fire or Trinity, but I'll see that on the spot, I guess

[cold monolith]

what do you like about divine blast ?

[red totem]

I think I'll go for Inevitable Judgement, at least at the beginning, frees up curses to use Temp Chains instead, it's very good defense

[cold monolith]

I never tried temp chain as a defensive layer yet

can be interesting

[red totem]

The novelty, mostly. It's an attack, but not a melee nor a projectile, so you have to build it differently. I also really like attacks that build up on shield, it allows you to build offense and defense together, which is quite comfortable. I also love its base AoE and attack speed, and the scaling of crit chance is really big.

It needs reduced duration for flow, but that's not a big deal for Templar.

And there definitely the cool factor: big booms

[cold monolith]

I also want to play a chronomancer in poe 2 one day

the slowing things is appealing

to me

[red totem]

Chronomancer is an amazing fantasy class. I really like that they're going for such novelty with PoE 2

[cold monolith]

yeah

[red totem]

Same with the djinn summoner

[cold monolith]

I love class that are unique

and you build around

[nocturne wedge]

Guys, Mamba PF or Blight of Contagion? What do we run with this league?

[cold monolith]

the one kind where it's just a vessel you can replace with minimal change to another one

don't like it

[red totem]

Soooo... don't like the ranger, same as me x)

[red totem]

Divine Blast, big white booms, mega crits

[cold monolith]

I played bleedbow slayer it was so cool and I had to scale frenzy charge

[nocturne wedge]

I need my prolif dopamine brother

[cold monolith]

it was not squishy

[red totem]

No need for prolif when you got screenwide blasts

[nocturne wedge]

Anyone know if Blight of Contagion is a 2 button build?

[red totem]

Slayer is cool, I feel it's a different type of fighter. I'd recommend trying stuff with the Jugg, similar vibe: you have all the defense in the world, you have to build your own offense with the tools he gives you (like accuracy or endurance charge stacking)

[cold monolith]

I remember trying to play self cast tectonic slam of cataclysism jugg

sadly had to move toward general cry, no way to generate enough charge per second to attack myself

and in poe endgame there is no mercy for us

especially in necropolis

bad time

@red totem what do you think of reliquarian ?

I don't see many build being made

I saw only two

[red totem]

Incredible idea, but I have not looked at it too much. I think it has really big potential

[cold monolith]

@red totem do you think it's possible to make a decent holy strike guardian but hybrid style ? you know with hallowed flame you'll buff your own dmg with ascendancy and stuff

minion dmg and attack speed applying to you

feels like you may be able to make a hybrid minion

[red totem]

I think it's what the skill is intended for, but I'm not a minion enjoyer, so I can't tell you if it might be good

[cold monolith]

feel like there is ten build I want to make x)

[red totem]

Sounds like a great base idea, though. Shield of Light might be very good with it, since it recasts itself from allies around the target. Holy Strike lets you control the minions positionning by being close to the ennemy when you use it, so you can multiblast

[cold monolith]

idk for you I was starting to lose a bit of faith in poe 1 with keepers

but it came back

golden ageeeeee

[red totem]

Might also do well with Domination Blow

Or DB of Inspiring

[cold monolith]

shield of light seems awesome I played a retaliate build before it's not that bad

herald of purity ?

it's simpler I feel like

withoiut glad though

so much clunk

[red totem]

Absolutely Herald of Purity with it, more damage, more minions. I think the clear for Holy Strike won't be too good (although you can add splash damage with the annoint), but it probably has very good single target. DB or DB of Inspiring might be a solution to get more clear, and switch to Holy Strike for bossing?

Idk

[hasty perch]

i would just holy strike with melee splash and animate guardian of smiting for bossing help

because both scale very well with rallying cry

[full saddle]

Does anyone know if anyone is working on a FP Totem guide for the next league?

[red totem]

I'd go Guardian for something like this, very good added damage, maybe the new support

[red totem]

Remind me what FP is?

[full saddle]

Freezing pulse sorry

[hasty perch]

i don't think anyone is doing a freeze pulse totem build in 2026 ngl

[full saddle]

Wallach used to be my goto but I dont think he plays anymore

[cold monolith]

I saw it

[red totem]

I know Palestron has a KF totem build

[cold monolith]

you have freezing pulse/ice spear totem build guide

on youtube

[red totem]

Might be similar enough for inspiration

[cold monolith]

hierophant

[hasty perch]

you can probably check the totem guy and switch some passives

titantiel or smth like that

[cinder quail]

will the challenges only be available in the league (I am kinda new so idk)?

[full saddle]

Hmm ok, never tried to make my own build before but ill give it a shot

[prime tree]

yes

[red totem]

Yep

[cinder quail]

do we know what they will be?

[full saddle]

just tweaking existing ones probably a good way to start

[prime tree]

shortly before the league starts when they get datamined. (iirc they can no longer datamine them out of the torrent)

[red totem]

I don't think they publish them early, but you can check them in game as soon as the league starts

Or datamine, I guess x)

[prime tree]

so like ~2h before the league starts they usually show up on the subreddit and/or poedb

after the patchservers went live and usually add the last bit of data that isn't in the torrent

[cold monolith]

I don't see people not getting crazy resummoning their dominating blow minions 3 time a map

idk why they all want to play it

I feel like that's the worst league for them

[stone belfry]

On the other end of that, I wonder when Warden outclasses slayer

because slayer seems to have impact for melee QoL, masterful form for frenzy + great defense scaling

overleech for a couple of nodes that only he can use b/c of overleech

(feed the fury, glad's perseverance)

[red totem]

Unpopular opinion : I prefered the old Raider

[stone belfry]

Old raider got nerfed into the ground

[chilly depot]

I agree

[stone belfry]

GGG just didn't feel like doing the correct stuff with her

AoVeil got nerfed from ailment immunity to 50% avoid

and the +8% cahnce to evade was on onslaught route

[red totem]

It was a difficult puzzle: old class, with most mecanics available somewhere else. Giving big number buffs wouldn't have made special. They managed to make her special, but Raider will always be in my heart.

[chilly depot]

Does it ever? Melee wise I feel slayer will always be better

[stone belfry]

50% inc. onslaught effect got removed from onslaught

[cold monolith]

I feel like they dropped the ball with the defensivce aspect of it which would have given it evezn more of an identity

[stone belfry]

I think it just needed a couple of thigns moved around and some nodes buffed

[cold monolith]

so you end up just being a ranger focused on ele ailment which a lot of deadeye were already doing

[stone belfry]

the avatar nodes were all kind of just...underwhelming

frenzy: you get inc attack speed, move speed, eva rating, % inc. damage

like...cute?

It was a generic damage node that didn't even give too much damage

AoVeil ... what did it do again?

ailment avoidance and

applied 20 exposure to nearby enemies?

[wary smelt]

old raiders was just what u ran with until you swapped to another ascendancy

[stone belfry]

sure b/c she got outscaled so hard

like here's how she could have been fixed

Onslaught: bring back 50% inc. effect

AoChase: remove +8% chance to evade attacks -> replace with 100% more onsalught effect, your action and movement speed cannot be lowered while you have onslaught

not below base, but cannot be lowered period

[cold monolith]

I really like elemetalist with the golem stuff you can't say the ascendancy isn't transformative at least

[stone belfry]

Then AoSlaughter: apply 5 exposure per frenzy charge on hit, frenzy bonuses are doubled

[cold monolith]

it feels unique

it has it's own stuff

[stone belfry]

And AoVeil: +8% evade, 50% chance to avoid ailments, prevent 10% of suppressed spell damage while phasing

so then you'd have 3 routes

speed, defense, raw damage

[cold monolith]

I think phasing is the only buff annoying to get nowadays I don't see many source

from raider

[stone belfry]

don't need it if you have whirling blades

or you can just get % chance to gain on kill

there's also withering step

[cold monolith]

I guess onslaught isn't that common

[wary smelt]

wym u run a phasing on kill jewel and thats it lol

[cold monolith]

in my head phasing is associated with delve

if not why do you even need it

but you are probably right im not that old a poe player

[wary smelt]

dot builds/melee builds/ tons of builds that dont insta kill the whole screen

[cold monolith]

I see

make sense

[wary smelt]

but phasing on kill + corrupted blood immunity ios something i always try to get on my jewels

woth sacraficing a slot for those 2 lines

[cold monolith]

yet now you'll have to consider the annoint belt

they gave you a problem to think about

lol

[wary smelt]

?

[cold monolith]

I meant you have to choose between stygian

and the new belt

as a rare belt

[wary smelt]

i mean just slot it into the passive tree lol

[cold monolith]

I rarely see people doing that

ngl

but it's definitely possible

yeah

every slot in the game seems so competitive

nowadays

so many unique jewel

and stuff

[stone belfry]

How often do you get a jewel that's better than +1 curse, +1 proj, +12 block, or 2 max res all?

and then remember that those are the general purpose type nodes

[cold monolith]

there is a +1 curse jewel ?

[stone belfry]

No.

[cold monolith]

+1 proj ?

[stone belfry]

No.

[cold monolith]

I see

[stone belfry]

I'm talking about the new blight belt.

[cold monolith]

yeah

[stone belfry]

Because those are anoints.

[cold monolith]

that sounds strong

but especially good for off meta build

[stone belfry]

Whispers of Doom, Multishot, Prismatic Skin/Nomadic Teachings, As the Mountain, etc.

[cold monolith]

like not in the right place of the tree

you can steal more node

more enabling

[stone belfry]

yep

[cold monolith]

for those

even the charge ones

are nice if you want to stack

you don't need to be at the right spot

W patch anyway

only sad thing is breach tree going core

😭

and you say you want to make ground loot matter and id items and stuff

holy shot in the kneemacaroni

[stone belfry]

Ehhhh if you get less points on breach tree

then you might nto even be able to get all the mods you want

and the tree isn't immediately entirely open either

[cold monolith]

feel like they thousand better than what you drop on the ground

[stone belfry]

That's not saying much.

You understand that the core loot system in Path of Exile is fundamentally broken, right?

Like here's the math

When you're lvl 4 and kililng stuff in mud flats

you're level 4, the items are level 4

[cold monolith]

Im listening

[stone belfry]

that is, the average mod on the items are equal to your level

Now, when you're in an ilvl 83 map

or t16 map

you're rolling everything from level 1 to level 84 or whatever

what's teh average of that?

[cold monolith]

so because it doesn't scale high enough you need to niche stuff to get items

too*

[stone belfry]

I'm saying that the bad mods aren't being culled

the mod weighting is not only uniform

but biased against the top tier rolls

[cold monolith]

true I think the mods are the problem

they were saying in poe 2 you have less this issue because you have less filler and way more generic good mod

so stuff that drop may be good

whereas here

[cold monolith]

there is almost no way past a few day

[stone belfry]

Like this is your basic 1H sword % phys

so say you drop an ilvl 83 sword

you're 40 times more likely to get a tier 8 mod as you are a tier 1 mod

[cold monolith]

you think it's too steep ?

or a bad way to go about it

[stone belfry]

so let's look at it

400 + 200 + 100 + 50 + 25 = 775

you are more likely to roll a junk tier, t8 mod than you are anything from t5 up combined.

[sonic stirrup]

this is not broken. This is built with intent. Designed to be this way.

Crafting is supposed to be difficult

[vague hemlock]

This is why stuff like tree and Rog is good, right? Can reroll tier ratings.

[sonic stirrup]

but to not be too hard early on

[stone belfry]

And the result of said intent is "filter out all the rares because you're more likely to see a garbage tier mod than anything even remotely decent"

[sonic stirrup]

since you have little to no resources and drops early

[stone belfry]

People say "please buff ground loot please buff ground loot"

and then you have this guy saying "it's the intent for ground loot to suck"

[sonic stirrup]

if you think there's too much equipment on the floor that nobody picks up then say so

people do pick up ground loot

[stone belfry]

I'm saying that the reason people filter out ground loot is that they have knowledge of the above.

[sonic stirrup]

but not for regular modifiers near the endgame

[stone belfry]

And it is correct to filter out ground loot

sure, they might pick up bases

[mossy gorge]

How SSF viable is Archmage Hiero starter?

[sonic stirrup]

but at what point are you sure that the player can't be interested in the random mods of floor loot?

[cold monolith]

in last epoch because items are identified you can filter even better

[stone belfry]

well, here's the thing--they're supposed to be interested in a t16 rare

like if they're just progressiung into reds

and complete their first t16

Then ideally, they should want to be identifying rare spine bows or imperial claws or w/e

[cold monolith]

you can probably find youtube vod about that

I heard it's doable

like not low on tier list ssf

[stone belfry]

But in practice

People say "ground loot sucks, ground loot sucks"

and I'm showing exactly why ground loot sucks.

Last Epoch took the exact opposite approach for instance.

They made drop-only tiers and all items identified on drop

So you could be excited about finding ground loot

In the meantime, people complain about breach tree when IMO, breach tree does exactly what ground loot should do

[cold monolith]

that system seems bad for trading though you can't make a loot filter for good items with stats that make sense while you can tailor your filter for your build

[stone belfry]

Actually drop items with basic mods but rolled at high tier

That system gives you a choice.

You can either juice your own drops in SSF with huge bonuses

or go the trading route

Now, LE does a LOT of things incorrectly.

[cold monolith]

last epoch ssf is goated

[stone belfry]

Exactly.

[cold monolith]

I don't see a reason to trade

[stone belfry]

Maybe you need a super-specific item

[cold monolith]

it'ss actually more inconvenient

to trade

to me

[stone belfry]

But it's also a concession to the fact that they may not have enough players for a viable trading economy

GGG does, sure.

But what happens when your indie game only has as many players as a GSF league?

[hallow plover]

What are people’s thoughts on blight for mirage? Is the currency drop buff going to make it super good?

[cold monolith]

first it depend on what you mean by blight

farming oil or titanic

I heard titanic is gutted

[stone belfry]

So there's no point juicing blight anymore?

[hallow plover]

I was thinking titanic

[stone belfry]

I mean in that case

Just do juiced breach

With the hives with enrage the hive scarab

keep clicking it until it gets too hard

I wonder if the "enrage the hive" button is also available in the fortresses with the scarab

So you can potentially keep clicking them through 24 waves

(assuming your build is pure godmode)

[hallow plover]

I was also thinking with the currency drop buff it might be decent just with the pure amount of currency drops if the buff is as big as they are letting on

[hallow plover]

How did it get gutted?

[stone belfry]

Hoenstly I think if you're doing blight, just do it early on

and then do breach for the "juiced generic drops"

[hallow plover]

Fair

[cold monolith]

first they started to lower the number of ennemies in blight then they probably changed a few scarab then idk

all I know

[hallow plover]

I like the esthetics of blight which is why I like trying to make it work

[cold monolith]

i'll check

[hallow plover]

Ow yeah if they lowered enemy numbers that would suck for this

[cold monolith]

look

imo it's good as they said if you have 1 thousand monster on the screen

[hallow plover]

Bruh!?

[cold monolith]

no wonder you have performance issue

reducing the monster and make them better

im happy about it

but for titanic rip

[hallow plover]

That is so many ways to add monsters removed

[cold monolith]

can't support this many monster

damage the performance too much

[hallow plover]

Yeah ik just sad

I wish it could handle it

[cold monolith]

yep

maybe one day

for now realistically even if they can improve performance a bit, it was way too much

[wary smelt]

I would like them to reduce # of monsters in blight ravaged maps and improve the loot to compensate cuz those have the same issue

Don't think anything changed with blight raveged right?

[hallow plover]

I might try it anyway and see how it feels with mirage doubling it

[cold monolith]

if you like blight as a base mecanic

like me

should be fun

because two blight

mean

[hallow plover]

I do yeah

[cold monolith]

100% fun

200%

[hallow plover]

Idk why but it has always been the most fun to me

[cold monolith]

love the loot explosion

but I hate blight map

it's too long

[hallow plover]

Yeah!

[cold monolith]

atlas doesn't work

especially the atlas not working

[hallow plover]

Fair

[cold monolith]

hate that

[wary smelt]

the change with blight chests all opening at same time is nice

[hallow plover]

Agreed

Yeah so nice

[wary smelt]

i stopped doing blight cuz it was so annoying having to click like 50-100x

[hallow plover]

I don’t break my fingers in each map anymore

[cold monolith]

yes such an amazing change

and amazing is an understatement on how it feel like in game

[obsidian marlin]

Blight is great all league long

[cold monolith]

now with poe 2 it's the era of qol changes

it will heal our hands

[obsidian marlin]

Such a relief too, and I’m off work tomorrow which 🙏

[cold monolith]

nice

what"'s your plan

did you thought of quitting your job to save wraeclast full time

[obsidian marlin]

Meta slave kf totem into probably frost mage something crit

Ritual legion blight

[cold monolith]

im gonna do blast rain of trarthus and conflagration

[obsidian marlin]

Ah nice I like that skill

[cold monolith]

I think

yes I tested it

today

so smooth

and dreadful made a version of it

[obsidian marlin]

Ignite prolif etc? Or going dd

[hallow plover]

I’m doing spectres

[cold monolith]

no it's not ignite

just dmg over time

[obsidian marlin]

Ah

[cold monolith]

my favorite spectre are the forest tiger

when you get like 8 of them

or something

best feeling

[obsidian marlin]

I’m curious about that bleeder one from ritual that can stack like 16 bleeds

[hallow plover]

Yeah um going to try ghazzy build for it and see how it goes

[cold monolith]

ghazzy build have crazy gear requirement

I remember trying to follow one and seeing start of yellow map +1 +1 minion wand with minion dmg and socketed trigger craft

and being like

[hallow plover]

Yeah I’m ok with it tho. Gunna start absolution which will get me started

[cold monolith]

okay we are not playing the same game

[hallow plover]

I’m more ok to stay on the less good bit for awhile and then get the good stuff later

[cold monolith]

I heard the reaper are cool too

[cold monolith]

I switched to zizaran version it felt way more realistic

it was zoomancer

amazing build

[hallow plover]

Oooo

Fun

[cold monolith]

very fun to resummon my squeleton it's almost like you have a dmg skill

[hallow plover]

Is it on his channel?

[cold monolith]

so you don't play a boring minion build that afk

yes

[hallow plover]

I like watching my boys kill everything idk why just feels fun

[cold monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcDuszpBZ8

[hallow plover]

Thx!

[cold monolith]

you're welcome

do you know if animate guardian of smithing give you smite buff btw

[hallow plover]

Idk sry

[cold monolith]

also try to be careful of what may have changed in the last months

first I think svalin is way more rare

and beside that idk

[hallow plover]

I’ll take a look

[stone belfry]

is it? Because only a few builds can do gigajuiced blight

since gigajuiced blight is both a single-target DPS check and a tankiness check

[cold monolith]

oills are always good at least

[stone belfry]

they aren't

silver and gold yes

everything else drops like a rock IIRC

[cold monolith]

after a few weeks tainted oils become crazy good

that's about it at least

[hallow plover]

Can u give me an example of a build that can?

[stone belfry]

Ummmmmmm

A gigajuiced slayer I think?

[cold monolith]

giga juiced blight got nuked anyway

and we meant titanic

[stone belfry]

It's now called gigajuiced breach

[hallow plover]

Yeah ik just curious

[cold monolith]

I mean it would he the strongests kind of builds in the game

[obsidian bison]

https://pobb.in/w944qK0R8ck5 Is this a good build or is it very difficult?

[cold monolith]

the one with insane dps and insane tankiness

[cold monolith]

shouldn't be that difficult he has many steps to improve it bit by bit

👀

[vagrant iron]

They didn't change base shockwave, right? That's still unusable with axes and its only the exceptional version that works with them?

[hasty perch]

no

[vague hemlock]

Think shockwave might have had changes to AoE, but it doesn't work with axes, no

And yes, exceptional version does work

[vagrant iron]

Yes, I know, was just verifying for my leaguestart plans

Whether I wanted axes highlighted on the initial filter or not

[vague hemlock]

What are you building?

[vagrant iron]

Holy sweep shockwave slayer

[cold monolith]

thank you

[torpid turtle]

do we know if the holy strike the armaments use is a copy of the actual holy strike skill?

[alpine magnet]

are blight maps now waystones with randomized tilesets? or do the drop as they currently do with tileset locked?
opening blight map = random zone
vs blight maps say beach/ coves etc

[plush coyote]

itd be pretty good if you could choose the map

[kindred trail]

do we know if nightmare maps drop as the specific maps or an umbrella item like the other maps?

[sonic field]

you still choose tileset, you just have one wildcard "map" item with a given tier

[sonic field]

the examples they shown were just called nightmare map

[kindred trail]

thanks for the help

[muted palm]

anyone thats played exsang miner can you confirm with me if it is good at all mapping content outside of legion? like how it does in deli/breach?

[sonic field]

actually its not that bad at legion

[muted palm]

i know its good at legion. im asking for stuff outside of that

like high density deli etcv

[sonic field]

and its bad at any content where you cant rely on freeze as defenses

because outside of that it doesnt really have much

[muted palm]

i woudl say its way better than "not that bad" at legion. its literally meant to farm legion lol

[dry epoch]

Was there any word on if merchant tabs are going to be 'remove only' in the new league?

[random juniper]

How does the new keystone change the astrolabes?

[vague hemlock]

??? How would they work if that was the case?

[vague hemlock]

Instead of removing the map you did from the area, removes a different random one instead

[high fossil]

It means you can keep running the same map, while the influenced area shrinks around it, amd the map you're running gets more and more mods from the astrolabe

[sonic field]

lets you run the same map repeatedly in an astrolabe with the downside of not controlling the blob, which can result in less juice per astrolabe

as when you split it, the smaller part disappears

[dry epoch]

Possibly back to your inventory...idk...just asking if anything was published

[high fossil]

But in the new league, it's an empty tab

[random juniper]

Oh thank god

[high fossil]

Why would anything need to be removed?

[sonic field]

all stash tabs only ever become remove only on league migration

[vague hemlock]

Async trade is staying

I know my merchant tabs are still in the merchant tab area, but I don't know if others can see them

[dry epoch]

Searches are league specific, aren't they? So will what we have listed in the current league be listed under standard or Mirage?

[high fossil]

Everything you had in Keepers is now in Standard. It will stay in Standard. When you start playing in Mirage, you'll have an empty tab that you can start putting items into.

You can't bring any old items into a new challenge league, by any method. It's just not how the game works. Fresh start, fresh economy

[dry epoch]

Got it, thanks

[tame oracle]

will it replace mage blood?

[chilly depot]

Not replace but should be equal power if you get good rolls

[tame oracle]

okok

so its like what one do you get lucky and get

[high fossil]

Lol, more like which one do you save up and trade for

[chilly depot]

It's more the defensive one your looking for imo, all the offensive ones are good regardless of what your looking for

Unless replinshing shrine is offensive can't remember if it is

[high fossil]

smh what kind of snowflake is offended by a replenishing shrine

I feel like that one is pretty distinctly defensive, it affects your life sustain directly

[chilly depot]

After the changes to it im offended by it

[high fossil]

Fair

[chilly depot]

But I understand why they changed that

[pseudo hull]

wait so the "attacks repeat" on the new lioneye's glare isn't the same as doubling your attack speed it's just an extra attack without cost? that's literally pointless lol

dead on arrival bow

worse than 1 div rare bow

[high fossil]

Sounds good, you can give it to me when you find one

[agile hemlock]

Yeah, I don't quite see the synergy tbh

[formal pewter]

no megablood?

[prime tree]

ye. 4 can't go up to 5 even with a top roll of 1.22x

[chilly depot]

So a free attack is bad?

[pseudo hull]

i mean what build has resource problems

in 2026

[chilly depot]

It's not the cost it's literally a whole another use of your skill without having to cast it again doubling your attacks per second

[pseudo hull]

iut's literally not

doubling yhour attacks per second

it's not

[high fossil]

It's doubling your attacks per attack

That's technically a kind of doubling

And yeah, if you put a Glare on an existing bow build you're not getting value for money

[pseudo hull]

if you're 3 attacks per second with lioneye glare is that 6 total attacks in 1 second or is that 3 with 3 more happening over the course of the next second? it seems like it's the latter

[high fossil]

But i think it opens up the build design space in interesting ways

[pseudo hull]

it's just like a quality of gameplay thing for unserious builds

like making you yourself a mirage archer kind of

if you wanna just shoot some stuff then run around to reposition more it lets you get more value out of that

[silver kettle]

this conversation feels like it's missing the context of Lioneye's also now having "Attacks you use yourself have 50% more Attack Speed"

[tame iris]

you still have to sit thru the animation time for repeats so kind of neither?

[pseudo hull]

yeah but 500 pdps and 50% more attack speed

[silver kettle]

cause that's part of the package with the repeat and it feels weird to separate them

[pseudo hull]

is worse than a rare bow

[tame iris]

but uh i think lion eyes has some potential as str stack

[pseudo hull]

500 pdps with 1.5 more attacks i'm pretty sure is just worse than any 1 div rare bow

that has stats appropriate for your build

so yeah it's just DoA

[high fossil]

So... Make a different build

[tame iris]

your not factoring in sources of flat that arent on a bow

like str stack alberons

[pseudo hull]

i mean idk just feels like a miss on the design part

[high fossil]

How can it miss, it has Hits Can't Be Evaded

[pseudo hull]

rofl

idk just GGG always does this their uniques are just like 90% just like leveling quality of life things that are all useless in actual builds then the other 10% are like mandatory build required items

wish that 90% could be a lower %

and that 10% would be higher

why make something super rare if it sucks?

[high fossil]

Because unique items are generally not intended to be BiS. They're intended to let you do something unusual, that you can't do with a rare item no matter how many mirrors you're throwing around

[quiet cypress]

Runegraft of gemcraft got a huge nerf this league right?

[pseudo hull]

i think that unusual you mentioned goes best with something that actually defines a build

rather than quirky but not actually good

just me i guess

[high fossil]

I agree you wouldn't slot Glare in as an upgrade for an existing build, but coming at it from the ground up i think you could do something cool with an ascendancy that usually has trouble with accuracy, mana sustain, attack speed, or all 3

I actually want to try the new Glare with some inquisitor CoC shenanigans, i reckon it'd be a monster for that

[pseudo hull]

i was sitting here thinking i could switch from storm rain deadeye to warden because of the new lioneye's glare because endless munitions would then overcap

but turns out i was wrong and deadeye is just still way better

[sonic field]

viper trying to lead us away from the op secret lioneyes ballista build smh

[pseudo hull]

lioneye doesn't affect ballista tho

[wary smelt]

you use yourself though

[silver kettle]

that was their joke lol

[sonic field]

you dont understand the greatness of the build

[wary smelt]

can still do self use toxic rain ig

[sonic field]

anyway the bow looks greats for builds that get their flat elsewhere

[pseudo hull]

ice shot with blizz crown and hyrri's ire?

idk what builds these are

[chilly depot]

STR stack alberons, or burning arrow of vigor life stacking wouldnt mind using that bow

[lost lagoon]

Lioneye’s glare toxic rain of sporeburst assassin?

[cloud galleon]

does sentinel of radiance to anything for guardian on a non minion build (other than counting as an ally)?

and triggering the hallow flame thing

[sterile atlas]

20% of Damage from Hits is taken from your Sentinel of Radiance's Life before you

[tame iris]

it does decent campaign damage

[sonic field]

it attacks too slow to keep up the guardian node

[cloud galleon]

does it manage to survive in endgame juiced maps?

[sterile atlas]

Might die fast on a non-minion build? Never tried honestly.

[cloud galleon]

thanks! i guess it'll resummon after a bit anyway after dying so

not a big deal

[sterile atlas]

You do have to summon it yourself, right? Or is that part of what's being changed

[cloud galleon]

it's probably a nice buffer for the start of maps before you get all endurance charges and stuff

[cloud galleon]

oh what a dumbass. you're right

yeah it doesn't resummon automatically, it's just permanent

[mighty temple]

Am i understanding this correctly? You hit for 392% damage. Then the 3 weapon minions hit the same target, each doing 392% damage that then gets 168% more damage, for a total of (392 + 3 * (392 * 2.68) = 3151.68% damage?!!! Am i missing something or is this absolutely busted?

[cloud galleon]

still a nice QoL change

[tender geyser]

wait I just realised that there is like no way to leech mana w/o annoints on templar, the holy strike might not look as juicy as I thought

[cloud galleon]

cluster jewels

fuel the fight

[tender geyser]

you want the 12 point minion cluster with 35% effect tho

it's way too much damage

[cloud galleon]

i guess that if you cover enough of the ground with consecrated ground it could survive with its massive life pool regenerating a %, what with all the consecrated ground effect on the tree now

[tender geyser]

is annointing like 1% life and 1% mana leech just the play

[cloud galleon]

maybe get that + megalomaniac?

[tender geyser]

oh megalomaniac is a good idea yeah

[cloud galleon]

i'm a big fan of megalomaniac

[cloud galleon]

unlikely but it's a nice thought

[tender geyser]

there's also daring ideas on a small mana cluster, that could be used before a decent megalomaniac rolls around

[cloud galleon]

yeah that could be really cheap

[sterile atlas]

The minions have their own stats - they don't use your holy strike (like e.g. mirages). And you're almost certainly not scaling both parts equally. (Also possible their own skill has different damage effectiveness.)

[cloud galleon]

templar start is really strange to me, it's really far from all the nodes i usually take. it's my first time on the upper left of the tree

[abstract cipher]

I've been pobbing holy strike and it's one of the most challenging skills I've ever pobbed

[tender geyser]

yeah it's a nightmare

but that's what makes it fun right?

[abstract cipher]

so many things you'd want on it only work on one side of player/armaments hit

or only have a version that works on both on an absolutely mediocre source

[cloud galleon]

OHHH they're working on losing buffs and minions between instances

that's wonderful

[tender geyser]

dom blow actually saved

[sterile atlas]

What about buffs on minions, huh?

[cloud galleon]

that absolutely wrecks my plans, i have to consider so many more builds now

[fringe arch]

Im doing siege ballista hiero probs

The mirage news solidified my thoughts lmao

[harsh sedge]

yo whats the abbrev of the upcoming league?

Mrg_?

[odd gate]

mirage?

not sure what you're asking

[harsh sedge]

last league it was KotF

cant use Mir because thats cringe

[odd gate]

oh

[harsh sedge]

M is too short

[high fossil]

Ok but Keepers of the Flame is really long, and needs to be abbreviated. Mirage is fine

[odd gate]

i dont think people will abbreviate it

[harsh sedge]

has to be sth like Cru for Crucible

[odd gate]

and a lot of people called it keepers instead of kotf anyways

[harsh sedge]

Mirage is too long, name length is limited xd

KotF is technically correct thats the thing

[high fossil]

Oh, do you use it as a character name tag?

[harsh sedge]

like all my chars yeah

[odd gate]

id go mrg

[harsh sedge]

i started somewhere around Legion with Leg_

im thinking about Mrg honestly its the only one that sounds logical

i dont want to see any Mir_SussyPlayerxXx running round or im gonna cringe out lol

[high fossil]

Just name your character "Mister_Gee", so efficient

[harsh sedge]

should i call you mista?

[high fossil]

I think i musta mist your point

[harsh sedge]

what was the last atlas expansion?

it wasnt Conq of the Atlas right?

[high fossil]

No, it was whatever brought in the incarnations

Secrets of the Atlas

[harsh sedge]

that was it yep

[high fossil]

But honestly the distinction between expansions and "just leagues" seems to be getting less meaningful

[harsh sedge]

wait

[high fossil]

They just do endgame updates when they can and want to

[harsh sedge]

im thinkin abt to do a PSA on reddit.
heres why

• Mir is cringe as i mentioned above, regardless if you had a mir in lifetime or not, doesnt matter
• M is too short, not an abbreviation technically
• Mrg seem the best deal
• doing the PSA to avoid Names like "SotA_HolyRelic" as ive seen it in the MoT league

cause ive seen this a few times people confusing the content expansion with the league name

[hollow osprey]

Just spell it Mirage

6 words,as short as Keepers

[young knoll]

is this a good node to take if im doing settlers ore stuff on league start?

[high fossil]

If you care more about kingsmarch than delve or harvest, then yes

[young knoll]

yes i will not be delving or harvest

[vital pollen]

Until you see +2m dust and bye bye mageblood hahaha

[tired widget]

life force tends to be more valuable than crops especially after the crop devaluation this update but its still pretty good for converting sulphite to ore

[wraith dust]

Hi guys, usually can we download the new update before the launch or no ?

[gleaming zodiac]

Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone

[wooden dew]

will 5 flask magebloods be possible with that new league currency mentioned?

[high fossil]

No, it can scale a mod to 1.22x its original value, and 4 x 1.22 = 4.88

Which is, to the best of my understanding, less than 5

Pretty sure they picked the limits to make sure it wasn't possible

[brittle bobcat]

There is a 59 gig torrent for PC Standalone users which has to have a small fixup patch, or there's the usual ~12 gig updates for all platforms around 2-3h before launch.

Consoles might have some sort of preloading, never really looked at those too closely.

[high fossil]

I believe console preloading happens alongside steam patching

With occasional delays because console

[mental nimbus]

is mageblood worth using on a LA deadeye

[high fossil]

Mageblood is pretty much always worth using. What other belt would a LA deadeye use that would compete with that much power?

[mental nimbus]

headhunter

then again i was unsure if i should use HH early and switch to mageblod when i get the crit for it

[high fossil]

Mageblood can be a source of massive crit with a diamond flask

But yeah, if you're looking at that end of the market then they're both fine choices, just adjust your build for whichever belt you prefer

Or try the new shrine belt, if that ends up being as good as people think

[mental nimbus]

what does that do

[tame iris]

If your purely mapping hh>mb if your bossing sanctum running or rly anything other than mapping mb>hh

and then shrine belt probably >mb worse than hh for mapping

[sonic field]

permanent effect of one offensive and one defensive shrine while under no flask effects

[mental nimbus]

but coudnt you just amost do the same but for 4 flask efects

with MB

[sonic field]

depends

[mental nimbus]

you can max out your resistences with mb

1 flask

[tame iris]

50% action speed is a shrine

[sonic field]

resistance shrine + the gull caps your resists at 90% (including chaos), diamond shrine guarantees crit

[tame iris]

50% action speed is better than what you get from flasks

[sonic field]

echoing shrine makes all your skills repeat

[tame iris]

and then res shrine fixes your max res anyway

[tame iris]

Also 100% more atk/cast speed

[mental nimbus]

im confused im looking at the belt now. it says diamond shrine and resistence shrine. which means it garantees crits and maxes your resistences no?

[tame iris]

50 ele res 10 max res

And it rolls 1 offensive shrine 1 defence

So crit could be accel shrine

[high fossil]

There will be different shrines on different belts, ok don't divine to reroll

[tame iris]

non divineable

[mental nimbus]

oh so it can roll any shrine buff not just those

[tame iris]

not any cant roll divine shrine

:p

would be a tad too broken

[dusk drift]

what league mechanic you guys gonna start wif

[mental nimbus]

is it expensive like mb expensive or

[dusk sleet]

Will the leauge launch at 2pm?

[tame iris]

probably but its new this league so we dont know drop rate

[high fossil]

Technically we don't know yet, but... Yes

[gleaming zodiac]

Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone

[tame iris]

18 hrs 42 minutes from now

Since i dont know your timezone

[mental nimbus]

woudnt mage blood be better still tho

ye you can garantee 2 shrines

but you can garantee amost 8 unique effects with mb

[gleaming zodiac]

you can also use breach ascendency to get 3rd ring with the new belt

[mental nimbus]

if you coutn the implicits and the explicits seperatly

[tame iris]

But you have to compare the power of shrines to flasks

[vague hemlock]

You mean ritual ascendancy?

[tame iris]

50% action speed is better than flasks

[gleaming zodiac]

maybe i am not sure lol

[tame iris]

And you get the same max res

excluding gull scaling

[vague hemlock]

Guaranteed crit is better than increased crit chance

Mageblood is I think maybe better defensively, but accel shrine is incredible on basically everything

[mental nimbus]

wouldnt onslaught with attack speed/movments pseed and 70% increase effect and 25% increase effect from prefix be way better than 50% action

[tame iris]

action speed is animation speed

If you go from 0>50% everything you do is 50% faster

[vague hemlock]

Breach does not give you a third ring. The reason people were talking about it is because it was broken with ele hit before they fixed it

[mental nimbus]

oh

[tame iris]

You move 50% faster attack 50% faster etc

[mental nimbus]

ok that makes sense

[tame iris]

multiplicative with your move speed etc

[gleaming zodiac]

yeah my bad, it's the ritual one, i'm tired 🤣 i mixed them up

[tame iris]

[mental nimbus]

ohhh so that would stack heavy haha

[tame iris]

It do be a fucked up effect

[mental nimbus]

then again its luck of the draw witht he drop no

[tame iris]

Ye

[mental nimbus]

so i could get absolute dog water on it

[vague hemlock]

We don't know the drop rate. Probably something low to get the belt, then the rolls are weighted

[mental nimbus]

do we know the drop chance yet or

oh

hahah

[sharp otter]

steam update when?

[mental nimbus]

the predwonload is already out atleast from the console standpoint

[vague hemlock]

It's also a boss drop, so the boss fragment is also going to be expensive unless it's very common

[mental nimbus]

what boss drops it do we know that

[tame iris]

New boss saresh

And we dont know how often we can fight it

[mental nimbus]

oh rip

[tame iris]

nor the drop rate

[high fossil]

2.5 hours before league launch

[wet dust]

did anyone try to piano warcries recently?
wondering if I should sacrifice auto exer

[civic jolt]

Say for the mirage GGPK file, i just copy it straight to the game folder? e.g. c:>program files>poe ?

[frank pike]

just use 1 warcry manually and keep auto exer probably

piano looses dps due to actually having to warcry

[kind coral]

is zombiemancer still #1 to afk blights?
Of all minion builds

[frank pike]

isn't it chains of command shenanigans?

not sure tho

[marsh flower]

Anyone know what time league starts?

[gleaming zodiac]

Realms will go down at <t:1772812800:F>
Approximately when the patch will be up (approximately) at <t:1772815500:F> (12GB)
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1772823600:F>
Torrent is already available for download, it only work with GGG client (not steam) check #poe1-news
time are displayed in your local timezone

[frank pike]

17h 24mins