1┃mirage-league

[crisp jacinth]

Will cobra lash assassin be good for a new player this league 🤔

[sonic field]

no

0 boss dmg 0 tankyness

[bright arch]

10 fun

[odd gate]

cobra lash got killed with cluster jewel nerfs

[crisp jacinth]

I want to try a build similar to D2 cobra strike style build, what would you recommend looking at instead of Cobra lash

I just like the poison explosion and movement speed

[smoky geyser]

if my slammed gem has wquality, will the suport be the same wquality

[odd gate]

i haven't played d2 but maybe look into pconc of bouncing deadeye? animeprincess has a guide i think

[vague hemlock]

Yes. Also works with destructive play I believe

[crisp jacinth]

I appreciate your suggestion I will look into it and see if it's similar

[ancient zinc]

were map atlas crafting suppose to be removed in mirage? if that's the case... wouldn't this just cause chaos orb inflation since the chaos orb sink is being removed?

[prime tree]

yes

we don't know how the other stuff will be affected, so maybe yes*

[pseudo comet]

I think I found a league starter idea for holy hammer by Woolie, now I'm wondering if Templar + Smite is a viable way of leveling, or should I just go with Sunder to be on the safe side? I ask because I come from LE and I love Smite

[vague hemlock]

Yes. Exalts have also had heavy drop rate buffs, so people are predicting that cheaper items will be priced in exalts now

[alpine magnet]

can someone explain me what the 2nd mod means?

[sonic stirrup]

Anything affected by the offering dies

*anything excluding things that can't take damage

[vague hemlock]

minions die when your offering ends. If you are affected by your own offerings, this kills you as well

[alpine magnet]

so I have to use offering always

[bold basalt]

is there a writeup of what actually mirage league mechanic does?

[vague hemlock]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913392

At the top

[past depot]

Ok so kill warlocks, select a buff forcthe realm your about to enter, kill all enemies, end mirage realm. Repeat

[vague hemlock]

Basically it copies part of the area, including league mechanics. It tries to spawn near league mechanics. Sometimes it alters a mechanic, including giving special rewards. Sometimes you can get coins that corrupt a l20 active gem and put a lv1 support on it. When entering the copied area, you get one of three wishes that gives you power or rewards, and also which type of coin you get

[past depot]

So it is kinda like ritual, where you can have stacked decks within it to copy mobs that drop more stacked decks

Ong

[vague hemlock]

Some of the wishes give you better currency or other loot, others do stuff like give you soul eater or immortality

[past depot]

Stack deck farming is gonna be cracked if you can enter a morage and then enter a ritual

[bold basalt]

i think the word is supposed to be weakening, not weaking

[past depot]

Yea

[cerulean sundial]

Hi fellow players,what happened to Ele Hit? Heard it was nerfed,what happened?

[ancient zinc]

thought so... imo removing atlas map crafting was a mistake cause it was a really effective chaos sink

[prime tree]

it wasn't nerfed, it just didn't receive an insane broken buff (that was announced in the patch notes originally)

[bold basalt]

there was a supposed OPOP interaction with breachlord ascendacy, as it is coded as 'added damage', but was decided to not let it go through

[cerulean sundial]

Ah, I seee. Thanks,so still good,just not OP

[bold basalt]

still the same, yeah

supposedly getting reworked for 3.29 too

[vague hemlock]

I think the rework was just making it not added damage

My guess is a programmer said it wasn't as difficult to fix as they thought

[proper pendant]

man , Can't wait for the league to start ... I am itching to start again 😄

[tepid mist]

only if ur a minion enjoyer

[native panther]

Can anyone recommend me an pbod build guide

I wanna Play and Test it

[rigid yarrow]

i have only tried Lokati's version, it was meh feeling for me tho.
But prob just me 😂

[bold basalt]

oh anyway isnt this broken for mines?

biggass aoe and 2 levels?

[rigid yarrow]

Mines arent a Aura.

Sorry, some are

[prime tree]

pyro mine probably pretty okay on the new ascendency maybe

[obsidian marlin]

icicle mine is an aura

:p

[compact cloak]

I believe they made this specifically for Pyro mines

[rigid yarrow]

Yeah, was thinking about something else 😂

[obsidian marlin]

i had a lot of fun on deadeye with 2 +4 tul wands on icicle

though scaling dmg got into annoying cluster jewel territory, i gave up lvl 95

curious to see where frost mage goes this league

[rigid yarrow]

frostmages support looks fun.

[bold basalt]

seems very good for early mine gaming

[compact cloak]

It'll be a minute before we see actual frostmage builds since its an exceptional gem

[obsidian marlin]

yea

[rigid yarrow]

Love the toads too 😂

[compact cloak]

The big boys gotta play with it first. The biggest issue is balancing mana cost, mana regen, and reservations

[obsidian marlin]

should be some memes with that one , toads on damage taken

[rigid yarrow]

Eldritch Battery + MoM time, maybe XD

[obsidian marlin]

cwdt + toad + stun + blind

[agile hemlock]

I kinda see the vision on PF, since costs don't matter to PF, so you could just play soul rend of the spiral or smth and take a bloodline

[rigid yarrow]

i remember, i just started playing POE. Saw Soul rend, was like gimme.
Had mana problems and gave up 😂

[compact cloak]

Losing so much es on a mana stacking build is a big l though

[rigid yarrow]

hence why MoM, turn your life into mana XD

[compact cloak]

Sort of, you still loose a huge chunk off your max hit. 60% es loss without other items giving more mom

[rigid yarrow]

Tho i dont know, i havent played enough spell related skills or anything related to it in poe1

More of a life+melee guy XD

[vapid topaz]

can someone help me with using relic of pact build but with the new ascendancy?

[compact cloak]

I see, im always a lowlife/mixed build

[rigid yarrow]

Yeah, i dont know what it is. It just feels more rewarding for me, when its a skill that hits the enemy. Or the sound of using dual strike of ambix as well.

Where some of the spells, are just alot of colors and death 😂

*for me that is.

[tepid mist]

when have you ever expected shrine/headhunter buffs to stay between instances? otherwise, it's all minions DURR

if you actually expected those to persist your build must really be lacking tbh

[smoky geyser]

I'm wondering if the imbued gems level 1 would be 1/20 or 1/0, because we have not had this modifier on a gem item before so could it use the parent gem qualities?

[cobalt scarab]

does anyone know if Holy Hammers overlap aka shotgun the boss with a 2x hit

[frank gate]

Anything changed as far as sanctum builds this league?

[north fulcrum]

When is gem info

[merry anchor]

whenever they want us to have it

could be tomorrow, could be an hour before launch

all we can do is wait

[prime tree]

could check the previous times they were released in #poe1-news via the search. it's like a day before launch usually iirc

[tender geyser]

They gonna come out on Thursday or something they always wait until last moment so they can balance(nerf) them properly

[tender geyser]

I stand corrected lmao

[molten solstice]

Lmao

[frank gate]

Lol.

They didn't reveal the execeptional supports at all.

[tender geyser]

170% more damage for minions on holy strike is so good

you don't have to put minion dmg/minion speed on them at all

also the static strike 96% more damage on bosses with crazy attackspeed seems pretty busted no

[vapid hatch]

Do they do the update today and just activate mirage on Friday?? Or does it update Friday?

[tender geyser]

update is on friday

[frank gate]

Update is on friday.

[fleet sequoia]

im devastated

[vapid hatch]

Thanks that's what I thought.

[fleet sequoia]

i thought the shield was going to be phys or fire 😭

[frank gate]

They've been clear holy is lightning this entire time though.

[prime tree]

a little under 3h before the league launches, patch servers will go up (after realm servers went down)

[fleet sequoia]

the new divine blast is fire and also shield based

that was my assumption, also trailer showed no shocked enemies D:

[shrewd wedge]

Hi!
I tried contacting GGG through X and the forum, but I didn’t get a response.
I believe **there’s a mistake regarding Betrayal in the patch notes. **
Could GGG confirm Tora’s changes? Currently, Tora in Intervention grants Ritual Scarabs, not Harbinger Scarabs. And we already have Cartography Scarabs with Rin.

Thanks in advance ✨ Please, I hope GGG read this🙏

[fleet sequoia]

oh well

time to recook

[lost anchor]

Are there any new skills that seem cracked, can't check atm

[molten solstice]

Holy Strike looks nice

[craggy pelican]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-1xOyI9ES9lsB7YnK2t

where's the exceptional supports

[frank gate]

In otherwords, enjoy not being able to plan until the dataminers get their hands on it.

[craggy pelican]

boo

[tender geyser]

fuck it I'm betting everything on holy strike not being shit, the strike skills are not the most fun to start with but fuck it we ball

[frank gate]

The new warcry support is interesting.

[craggy pelican]

its soulwrest gaming for me i think

[short bone]

holy fuc mno way

it drops on friday?

thats huge

i can no life without worrying about work the next day lmfao

[molten solstice]

Templar starts with it and Hallow Support, so maybe can make it work then just switch if it's bad LMAO

[tender geyser]

also holy strike seems like a perfect gem to brick like 20 times with the new imbued coin system since you would benefit greatly from both lvl 1 splash/lvl1 phys to lightning

[tender geyser]

oh yeah, sentiel carries in campaing anyway and if it's total doodoo shit kaka I can just switch to like absolution or something with minimal tree changes

or maybe cook up some tech for better clear since the single target is def gonna be good with it

was thinking of going staves and doing 2 6 links with one being herald of purity for clear? as they got more aoe now

but idk about how the AI of HoP behaves so it might be even worse

[frank gate]

Hmmm... Holy Strike Occultist...

Or Necromancer...

[ripe basalt]

Time to buy twenty of those at league start LMAO

[tender geyser]

necro should be good

[ripe basalt]

I’ll be pushing holy strike til the end even if it’s mid

[tender geyser]

I dont know if I have the strength to do it but I'll try too

[ripe basalt]

LMAO

[molten solstice]

I wanna go with a Holy build too, but it's probs gonna be Holy Sweep so I can just switch to another Slayer build if it doesn't work out

[north fulcrum]

How do we feel about trans flamethrower trap

[molten solstice]

How about Holy Strike and Shield of Light for the full Holy

[lost lagoon]

Penance brand ignite now that the reduced ailment damage is gone?

[proper pendant]

Guys , is anyone able to send me a link with the gems? I can;t find them on the forum

[ripe basalt]

50% reservation HoP

[north fulcrum]

Paak_hc did some pob and said it wasn't the juice

[lost lagoon]

Rats. Looked like a big boom to me

[proper pendant]

I found them

[vale socket]

So if your weapon is 100 damage, each holy strike minion inherits 100 damage base, then uses holy strike itself for about 400 damage per hit, then gets a 2.68 multi for like 1000% total? So each attack is 3400% damage? I must be missing something

Am I dumb

[tender geyser]

I mean I get 3 damage auras from guardian and probably like haste/determination from spectres so really there's not much other I can put on my build lol discipline?

[glossy adder]

reveal: 40+ new and changed exceptional gems
new and changed gems:
looks inside
no exceptional gems
🙃

[ripe basalt]

but do spectres live long enough in reds?

also are u speccing into minion defences on holy strike build?

[tender geyser]

They do if you are pure of heart and a good person

[ripe basalt]

then yours are dying then too

[tired widget]

didn't they say you can reroll an existing enchantment using the new currency?

[tender geyser]

The gems get corrupted so you shouldn't be able to change it

Maybe there's another that rerolls it but I don't remember they saying anything

[ripe basalt]

but yeah idk if ill be doin minion defences since holy strike weps are immortal

[tired widget]

fairly sure they said that's just to make it exclusive with 21/23 corruptions and the currency can be used to reroll a corrupted gem that's been enchanted with the support

[tender geyser]

Oh that's great

[ripe basalt]

but the wording says you cant modify corrupts

which i assume means its a one time roll

[proper pendant]

I was listening to Jungroan talking about these new skills , and the way his mind works is fascinating ..

[vale socket]

Oooh it's "attack the enemies you target with holy strike" , not attack with holy strike. Lol

[tender geyser]

I was just thinking of taking the 2 points next to the minion attack speed also works for you node and then using queens hunger+chains of whatever that gives you 3 offerings so the minions would get some block chance and hopefully live with just that, I haven't played a minion build in ages so idk about how tanks spectres are

[frank pike]

yea, in the Q&A they mentioned choosing between it or a lv21

[stoic solar]

whats a good blue character effect to go with my blue themed character next league??

[ripe basalt]

what would chains of command do in this build? i heard the rounds about that armor but dk what it does for holy strike

or are u talkin about another thing

[tired widget]

of all the leagues to do a harbinger cosplay

[tender geyser]

I meant the belt that gives you offerings can effect you, it's named something else

[tender geyser]

you need to remind wreaclast who is the boss I guess

[ripe basalt]

so they expliocitly mentioned being able to roll the internal support?

[stoic solar]

hey shhhh

i just

wanna be blue

okay

but im bored of the celestial character effect

that i got a few leagues back

so im asking for suggestions

[ripe basalt]

are you talking abou leash of oblation? tthats the one that allows offerings of all types but reduced duration

also im assuming youre gonna go necro for this build right?

or are u also goin guardian

[tender geyser]

guardian

necro has built in offering can affect you no?

[chilly depot]

It's random but iirc you can reroll it with the currency, but it's either 21/23 or a support

[ripe basalt]

yeah i was lookin at necro but i dont think there was much there that wouldve helped this build

my biggest concern is that holy strike minions wont be able to keep up with you if your attack speed is higher

unless its systemized that it queues its strikes

[tender geyser]

I think I'm cooking too much but there is just too much good stuff that you want to just push into that build, maybe offerings are not the way to go, but with queen's hunger and some duration you can have block/attack speed/critchance+ multi for you and the weapons

[ripe basalt]

rather than acting more like a trigger that waits for the attack time to end

i think the crit multi is probably the best thing there

i dont imagine that block matters if yorue going a staff two hander

you can block cap easily through staff nodes

[tender geyser]

yeah we will probably need to balance our AS with the minions

[ripe basalt]

yeah i think it should be fine with the minion AS > player scaling notable

youll always be relatively similar speed

and im just not worried about their survivability since theyre immune so its just ramping dmg at this point

ive got the minions up to about 70% crit chance idk how to get the rest to crit cap

[tender geyser]

Is that with the new crit gem?

[ripe basalt]

mhm

Ungil's harmony is a really easy way to self crit cap

and since youre not worried too much about your own crit multi its a good way to get exemplar running

• its a cheap af ammy you can just add crit catalysts to

id imagine youre not worried about your strike dealing dmgh

thats my plan at least, until i get something like uulnetols for the extra support gem

and then get that sweet 8 link holy strike

[tender geyser]

I think there's gonna be hol strike mostly+ minions to add dmg and then holy strike played more like absolution

[ripe basalt]

Idk much about absolution

[vagrant kayak]

did they revert the buff on absolution?

the aoe and damage

[chilly depot]

No

[chilly depot]

The play is going for spiritual aid and maybe command so you can scale your damage and minions together

[golden canopy]

I cant wait to use GREATER multiple projectiles exceptional support, or better yet GREATER GREATER multiple projectiles against UBER UBER shaper

[sonic field]

there's no exceptional multiple proj gem

[golden canopy]

booooooooooooo

rip the meme

do we know why GGG called them exceptional supports when awakened enlightened enhanced already used that term?

[high fossil]

Probably because having a distinction between awakened gems and exceptional gems doesn't actually make a lot of sense

[ripe basalt]

exceptional exceptional greater multiple projectiles of returning

😎

[golden canopy]

gives +2 proj and +2 split

[summer jackal]

how long does it takes for characters to migrate ?

[high fossil]

It varies, and sometimes it comes in piecemeal. Characters will migrate, but stash tabs take a bit of time, stuff like that.

I can say with complete confidence that it'll all be sorted in a couple of days, but i think the last few have only taken a few hours

Also if you are missing stash stuff, make sure you haven't hidden remove-only tabs, since that's where your league stuff will be

[ionic coyote]

nice video carn

[scenic flax]

yo, any tips for a good build for 3.28?

[quiet mortar]

are you making one? following one? do you want a certain gameplay? that question is super vague

[scenic flax]

sorry, any good build/guide for a noob? planning on following a guide, played before but never got more than 2 voidstones

[quiet mortar]

there are many of them, is there something you like? also its still early for 3.28. People are still talking/figuring things out

[high fossil]

Kinetic Fusillade was a great skill last league, and didn't get nerfed. I think a lot of people are planning to play it with totems this time around.

[quiet mortar]

yeah thats one

[scenic flax]

ty, gonna give that one a try

[nocturne sand]

ik kb is bad for bossing but is it good enough for voidstones
my other option was poison aw, but kb looks more fun

[patent spade]

No shield crush enjoyers?

[quiet mortar]

kb is good at bossing when you have multiple mirrors

[quiet mortar]

I like it, its fun

[hollow osprey]

Seems like Divine Blast is the way now

[opal raptor]

Reading through the patch notes, looks like FRoSS survived?

[gleaming grove]

monastery bell, herald purity, holy shield gaming

[nocturne sand]

ik its bad but like is it serviceable for just voidstones, not looking to get carried

[tardy gorge]

FRoSS is what? sorry im an onlooker trying to follow the convo

[nocturne sand]

and fs not doing ubers

[opal raptor]

Forbidden Rites of Soul Sacrifice(Cats on Crit build)

[gleaming grove]

i am brewing holy shield

[scenic flax]

huh what about ssf builds?

[quiet mortar]

if you are new do not go ssf

fross is fun

I still dont know what I will rock

[gleaming grove]

the other retaliations resetting retaliations means you can use howlcrack and vengeful cry to fish for holy shield resets if it ends up on cooldown

[quiet mortar]

bow build is making a comeback with t17 going away

glass cannon experience

[bitter sail]

wait T17 is going away?

[tardy gorge]

Is Archmage frostnova icebolt build still viable i know it was nerfed in like 2 leagues ago is it sdecent still or not worth running

[gleaming grove]

total t17 death was unexpected

[quiet mortar]

it is

[bitter sail]

I guess it's probably a good thing, idk

[quiet mortar]

on glass cannon it was either I kill everything or everything kills me instantly

[tardy gorge]

relatively simple?

[quiet mortar]

well its only viavble later with gear, its not really a campaign build, but not crazy hard to set up either

[tardy gorge]

So you wouldnt advise leveling as it?

or clearing the acts

[quiet mortar]

I don't even think you can

[tardy gorge]

noted thank you!

[high fossil]

There will be Nightmare maps instead of t17. They will still be harder than t16 maps but i think lack access to most juicing methods. So good for accessing ubers, but not the most profitable farming areas in the game

[quiet mortar]

I am pretty sure its impossible to set up before like act 9

so either way you couldnt go through acts with it

[gleaming grove]

https://tenor.com/view/diablo4-gif-23660463

[tardy gorge]

oh... okay haha i have more research to do

[quiet mortar]

you go firestorm or something

[gleaming grove]

they added nightmare dungeons fr

[quiet mortar]

pretty op for acts

[gleaming grove]

i cant really figure out what my leveling skill is gonna be so im probably gonna use shield charge until my retaliation engine is online

[quiet mortar]

yeah I have no idea what I want to do either 😭

[gleaming grove]

shield charge spawns purity heralds and triggers monastery bell.
pop holy shield, holy shield cones all shotgun off the heralds

im sure it will do... very, very little damage

[quiet mortar]

you are generous

[gleaming grove]

but the holy shield is gonna reset itself off monastery so till be spammable

[quiet mortar]

yeah

rip your hand tho

[gleaming grove]

im going to drink HEAVILY

[quiet mortar]

you will either blackout or have a hurting hand

decide your battle soldier

[gleaming grove]

average tuesday

[quiet mortar]

for a poe player honestly yeah

[visual mortar]

wait so they didnt stick to elemental hit being OP this league?

[high fossil]

They did not

[visual mortar]

thank god

[high fossil]

Retracted it about 2 hours after the interview

[visual mortar]

that's awesome to know cause I really didn't feel like league starting it

[high fossil]

I think that's the key, it was going to be so clearly busted that people were intending to play it against their will

[quiet mortar]

bro feels relieve haha

[high fossil]

That ain't fun

[quiet mortar]

every league there is that op buuld you feel forced to play

int/acc stacking jugg last season felt like that

[tardy gorge]

What is it this league i dont feel like any 1 stands above the rest rn

[patent spade]

Pre patch fun nerfs are good.

[gleaming grove]

i am a simple man

i press vaal absolution

[quiet mortar]

lol

[visual mortar]

besides ehit if they didnt nerf it

[quiet mortar]

yeah they are all nerfed

no crazy s tier this league

[patent spade]

For now

[quiet mortar]

yeah for now

[gleaming grove]

i think lightning aurastacker is gonna be strong

[patent spade]

There's enough changes and new things that we can't really tell what the flavor of the league build will be.

[high fossil]

It's going to be so obvious in hindsight 2 weeks from now

[quiet mortar]

but with the nerfs they also brought other builds back to life

[patent spade]

Yeah

[quiet mortar]

removing t17 made bow build more viable

[chilly depot]

Holy strike is s+ atm

[visual mortar]

that's what is gonna be so fun this league, gonna feel like a different game

[gleaming grove]

im gonna clear nightmare dungeons with a hammerdin

[patent spade]

Holy skills look fun af, ngl.

[gleaming grove]

legit going to be fiddling heavily with the retaliation

[quiet mortar]

no cap

holy will either be busted or dog

like last league new gem... no one used it

[chilly depot]

The dps numbers is something like 3000% DE

For holy strike

[quiet mortar]

we will see then

I will find a weird ahhh build so that I dont pay for super expensive items

thats my fun

[chilly depot]

I'm going either divine blast and divine light or sweep

[quiet mortar]

I have no idea what I am doing

I went melee like 90% of the leagues I played

might try something else for once

[chilly depot]

Melee is the way

[quiet mortar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/knuckles-ugandan-JWtUO3g1cmhFGsUhkD

[patent spade]

I was thinking of just doing shield crush while I wait for the inevitable solving of holy skills and actual gameplay for them.
I haven't done a melee build in years. And I think it was decent enough to try it.
I just hate warcries and exertion as mechanic.

[quiet mortar]

once you are late and its all auto its fun

but early managing warcries is a little painful

[fluid drift]

If I were to slam with Hallowing Flame linked (https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Hallowing_Flame) and wearing Tawhoa's Chosen for the Mirage Chieftan (https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tawhoa's_Chosen), would the mirage consume the Hallowing Flame, and then also reapply Hallowing Flame to allow my next slam to consume the Hallowing Flame?

seems like a potentially decent interaction

[patent spade]

Afaik, they don't interact that way.

[fluid drift]

looking at the wiki page for proxy, I suspect you're right, because otherwise you would be able to just have a totem apply hallowing flame over and over

[patent spade]

Tawhoa can't apply hallowing flame. And the chieftain won't trigger hallowing flame either.

[fluid drift]

and I doubt they allow that

[halcyon plaza]

what exactly is the benefit of t17s being removed?

[visual mortar]

10x build viability

[halcyon plaza]

because less dmg is needed?

[visual mortar]

no because t17 modifiers are cracked for most builds and t17 used to be meta for farming currency

[halcyon plaza]

i see thanks

[patent spade]

No one liked them, it was objectively the best way to farm anything, and the only reason why you would run t16s was because you had no more t17s and somehow you couldn't afford buying them on trade anymore either.
And the modifiers killed build diversity, because many of them completely brick almost all builds or were extremely annoying to run.

[visual mortar]

a better explanation than mine

[halcyon plaza]

Seems reasonable thanks

[patent spade]

Pretty sure t17 mods are the sole reason why trickster has been such a popular ascendancy for years. Since it can completely ignore or has an easier time playing around the more annoying, build bricking mods.
Also, maybe valdo's. But those are a whole different problem.

[quiet mortar]

last league at the end it was all about t17 farming, its ass

[pulsar helm]

Death of t17 is good

[quiet mortar]

yup

[patent spade]

they will not be missed.
||inb4 nightmare maps are somehow even worse than t17s||

[high fossil]

If only the name had warned us

[ionic coyote]

hideout won't betray you, there is no such thing as "bad hideout mods"

give Faustus a hug, he will flip the currency, it will be alright...

[patent spade]

but the hideout is lava.

[high fossil]

Not even "ground has patches of anime girl"?

[ionic coyote]

lava, as in warm and cozy... ish

[patent spade]

only if you have 90% fire res. smh

[ionic coyote]

that mod is ok for my build ngl

[ripe aurora]

Anyone know what happens when you run "Synthesised Stability" key stone, that lets you run a single map in an astrolobe, but then the blob bisects and the single map is not in the blob anymore? Then you have to run a different map right?

[ionic coyote]

well it says it can't target the map you ran

[high fossil]

Yeah, i don't see how it can perfectly guarantee that your map will stay in the blob. You'll have to change less, but still sometimes

[patent spade]

it collapses a different part of the blob, not the map you are running.

the whole point of it is running the same map over and over.

[ripe aurora]

but if your map is on the outside and it cuts a random map in the middle, bisecting the blob. Your side of the blob where your map is can disappear

[high fossil]

But if the blob bisects, and the chunk of blob containing the chosen map dissipates, then you have to change

[agile hemlock]

Yeah, I think that's a possibility

[ionic coyote]

im pretty you will be able to decide where the blob center will be

at least it looked like that in the showcase

[agile hemlock]

Yeah, I don't think this'll happen often

But the rng could be annoying

[ripe aurora]

seems like you dont want to run a map that is on the outside of the atlas then

[visual mortar]

keystone doesn't state that the map you run has to be connected though right?

[ripe aurora]

but then it wont have the astrolobe mods right?

[agile hemlock]

If the blob disconnects, the smaller part goes away if I remember the phrasing right

And if the map you ran was in the smaller half, it's probably GG

[ionic coyote]

yeah i'm like 99% sure if you click the blob sphere on the map you want to run it will be the center of it all

[odd gate]

i hope blobs drop enough that you can actually rush them constantly

[visual mortar]

and I don't see why they wouldnt just make it so the keystone just removes the furthest out map

[high fossil]

I hope we never replace the term "blob" with whatever they're supposed to be called

[vague hemlock]

They need to drop in 1/8 maps or so I think

[patent spade]

you can just keep running the larger blob, even if it's not ideal.
but from memory, if you select the map you want to run as center, it should not happen often, unless you have some terrible rng.

[ripe aurora]

Seeing that the spirit of the node is to be able to always run a single map, I'm sure it will work like that or at least it will after a patch

[vague hemlock]

keystones should have downsides

[high fossil]

I feel like it'll work 95% of the time and ggg will be happy with that

[visual mortar]

I don't see why they should punish players that want to run the same map over and over though

[patent spade]

astrolabes is the item that creates the blobs.
afaik, we have no idea what the drop rate will be, but we are expecting the 1/8 to 1/11 rate, otherwise it would feel awful to juice with them.

[halcyon plaza]

What do you guys think will be early currency and endgame currency farms?

[visual mortar]

early probably legion/betrayal are good options late though, not quite sure what's gonna be best

oh and also astrolabes

[placid meadow]

There any updated HrOc Guides yet?

[odd gate]

i don't think anything changed for it

[placid meadow]

@odd gate Ah, okay, and as for your name, aren't we all?

[patent spade]

We won't actually know for sure considering all the changes.
We are mostly relying on previous knowledge. But if chaos value goes to the gutters, some might be a lot less profitable than in previous leagues, or become more dependent on big ticket items to be profitable.
Ultimatum is consistent with divines, which are always on demand.
Harvest without cornucopia is likely dead.
Betrayal will be consistent throughout the entire league, as usual.
Ritual is still okay if you like that play style. But is a bit more rng and knowledge based.

[ruby ice]

Wil there be a new class on march 6?? or just another new season?

[ionic coyote]

uh, new ascendancy for scion is all

[halcyon plaza]

Why would chaos value go down?

[odd gate]

t17s were the major chaos sink

[agile hemlock]

Map device crafts as well

[halcyon plaza]

ahh okay thanks

[odd gate]

and also all the higher tier currencies are having their rates adjusted as well

[sonic field]

no t17s no map device crafts so less things eating them up

[visual mortar]

well bench crafts still sink no?

[odd gate]

i mean barely

[agile hemlock]

Ehh, people don't really bench enough to matter

[sonic field]

yes but nowhere near how t17s and map device did

[odd gate]

compared to 100s per hour

[patent spade]

T17s were a massive chaos sink, and map crafting got removed.
Without them, chaos is probably even less desirable than transmutes

[high fossil]

The new season has a massive amount of new content and balance changes, this isn't just a lazy "please start over"

[agile hemlock]

It's more clusters, maps, heist ammys and such I'd wager, especially with harvest probably getting expensive with no more woke rota

[ionic coyote]

oh I hope so

[patent spade]

Monkey paw wishes

[ionic coyote]

chaos orbs are kinda goated for some things

[halcyon plaza]

fair

but what will be the currency players want then?

like also when trading

[odd gate]

im guessing it'll stay chaos for the first few weeks at least

[patent spade]

From the looks of it, if chaos stops being the baseline currency, I can't really imagine what could be the next baseline. Due to rarity, some think gemcutter prisms

[odd gate]

maybe move onto exalts depending on their new rarity

[patent spade]

Alternatively, exalts again.

Yeah

[visual mortar]

since gemcutters will be used a lot more for the 7 links maybe you're right

[ionic coyote]

gemcutters being main currency is some alternate reality type of scenario in my head ngl

[halcyon plaza]

were chaos orbs the basline currency from the beginning till now?

[patent spade]

Pretty much

Early days of Poe it was chaos and exalts.
Then they made divines infinitely rarer and it changed from exalts to divines.
That was one of the biggest market crashes in the history of standard and everyone lost their shit. Lmao

[halcyon plaza]

i see xD

quite the change then

[visual mortar]

not really true, divines and exalts have been the about the same rarity until now, exalts were used for meta crafting but they swapped it to divines

[odd gate]

well wasn't it also cause meta mods swapped to div

[patent spade]

They removed the recipe for divines and we had virtually no div cards for them
While exalts had many div cards and the vendor recipe

But yeah

[high fossil]

Also i think in the very earliest days of poe, gcps were a primary trading currency. Not sure if that was alongside chaos or instead of

[hollow osprey]

So let me calculate this damage right

[visual mortar]

this is true but they removed div cards and vendor recipe for divines since they were planned to be the next meta craft currency

[patent spade]

Yeah. That was fun

I remember I yeeted all my cheap 6links to get divines and bought a bunch of them from unaware players. Lmao

[frozen nova]

Did Anyone asked for some clarification on the new Static Strike here ? The text is super vague

[hollow osprey]

Each minion uses Holy Strike which means we got 392% base damage + 392% added damage which makes them 784% damage
Now with 168% more damage its 1300% damage

NOW MAKE IT 3

4000% DAMAGE

NOW COMBINED THAT WITH YOUR OWN ATTACK

[vapid mist]

they scale with minion damage, not your damage

[hollow osprey]

The fuck did GGG smoke when they create this

[hollow osprey]

Your weapon stats are added

[high fossil]

But the minions will use their own Holy Strike skill, not your one. So the numbers won't work like that

It'll be strong, sure, but your math is not guaranteed correct

[hollow osprey]

Wouldn't their Holy Strike work the same as yours

[vapid mist]

a weapon is 1200 pdps if we are being generous, and then what ? 1200 * 4000% = 48000dps

[high fossil]

Not necessarily, and they don't have your passive tree and gear anyway

[vapid mist]

no

[hollow osprey]

And these fuckers work with Multistrike too

[hot creek]

tbf, we have no idea whether they will work with multstrike

[hollow osprey]

Sounds like a case of "go with Spiritual Command and just scale attack speed to the max"

[vapid mist]

assuming they use a strike skill (no reason they wouldn't), it will work, the issue is that GGG doesnt provide minion stats, so we can't really estimate anything

[hot creek]

Honestly, spiritual command seems like a waste

Better to go with Wilma's

imo

[vapid mist]

you need to scale minion attack speed too

wilma will only scale yours

[hot creek]

Depending on how the skill works, minion attack speed won't matter

They attack after you do

[vapid mist]

the skill isnt a trigger like frozen legion, so that only leaves the case of the minions attacking using their own attack

the wording seems pretty clear to me

[hot creek]

If you look at the reveal, they attack directly in sync whenever you do

[vapid mist]

that's because they one-shot every mob you hit

therefore they just do nothing after until you target the next

[hot creek]

Maybe, we'll have to see when the league starts

[hollow osprey]

Whatever it is I'm League Starting this

[vapid mist]

good luck, brave soul 🫡

[frozen nova]

Personaly I want to league start the new Static Strike but the description is so vague it could be just dog****

[edgy lion]

I would love to know if Holy Strike minions attack with your AS or if they have their own CD on attacks

[vapid mist]

nothing in the wording suggest they use your AS, they use their own AS since it is their attack

[edgy lion]

It's how they mechanically should work, since it says they target/attack what you attack

[chilly depot]

No, since they are just a copy of your weapon w/o skill tree

[edgy lion]

Like, the only real way to scale their damage is you having a ton of AS, so you just hit for 4x, if they have their own attack speed it's DOA

[hot creek]

"These weapons are minions and will attack with Holy Strike themselves whenever you do."

[vapid mist]

they target what you attack, doesnt say what they attack with.
if you want references to different wording, refer to holy relic or frozen legion

[hot creek]

Mark's words, not mine

[chilly depot]

Was stated in reveal they use holy strike

[edgy lion]

like the problem is that on the reveal they just oneshot stuff, so god knows for single target

[high fossil]

Sure, but they are using their holy strike skill, not yours

Because minions aren't you

[vapid mist]

it can be their own holy strike, doesnt mean yours

[edgy lion]

I mean, i really don't want to be uber baited by them

[chilly depot]

I'm aware, it's up in the air if it's your holy strike w/o gems or a version with different numbers

[vapid mist]

support gems apply to minion attacks if compatible, you can test this with zombies / specters

[chilly depot]

Right forgot bout that

[hot creek]

Even if they're using a different version of holy strike, the phrasing "will attack with blank themselves whenever you do", is pretty clear.

[edgy lion]

Marks does say "These weapons are minion, and will attack with Holy Strike themselves whenever you do" at 13,23

The only weird thing is that whenever he attacks after the minion do, they disappear for a second

[chilly depot]

If only frozen legion was good

[edgy lion]

No idea if it's just "rule of cool" or just some internal terrible CD... they could've shown a single target for a second ffs

[vapid mist]

i did make a pretty functional build a while ago, but i couldnt scale it past league starter territory without too much currency, i can vouch for it being a valid starter

[hot creek]

God I hope theres not an internal cooldown. There's nothing I hate more than internal cooldowns.

[edgy lion]

All they need to show is attack with some good AS on a boss and every question would be gone -_-

[chilly depot]

My only concern is that you might replace the minions if you keep using holy strike so they may not actually to attack if you aps is to high

[vapid mist]

i doubt it, if we go by other attack minions precedents

[edgy lion]

I hope to god they just refresh like every other similar minion

[hot creek]

Holy Relic?

[chilly depot]

Is a skill

[hot creek]

... Also a minion with an internal cooldown based on you attacking.

[vapid mist]

holy relic uses a spell, hence CD, not an attack

attacks have attack speed, which is very accessible on minions

[edgy lion]

I mean, not if you need to attack for them to attack too

[hot creek]

... Most spells have cast speed without cooldowns.

[vapid mist]

we still have no confirmation on your interpretation of the skill, the wording only talks about targetting, my interpretation is they will keep attacking what you target until it dies

[chilly depot]

Iirc the only minion w/o CD on spell use is absolution

[hot creek]

"These weapons are minions and will attack with Holy Strike themselves whenever you do."

[edgy lion]

I mean my interpretation is from Mark literally talking about the skill on the reveal video :v

It's not really an interpretation, more or a regurgitating whatever the devolper said

[hollow osprey]

Good luck finding one

[hot creek]

Will attack whenever you do is pretty clear. See, Focused ballista.

[hollow osprey]

Afaik they use your weapon so if your weapon is a fast one

[vapid mist]

his wording vs gem wording, both come from the devs, believe what you want

[hollow osprey]

Then they will be fast

[edgy lion]

Multistrike should work, god knows

I'll either get baited by that or play anything with a pop

[vapid mist]

focused ballista says that explicitely on the gem, holy strike doesnt

[edgy lion]

eh that's minion stuff

they always have hidden modifiers for fun

[hot creek]

Wait, by your reading of the skill

[chilly depot]

Its alright I'm baiting myself with divine blast or sweep

[hot creek]

you can just attack 3 times and they will keep attacking even when you're doing other stuff

[edgy lion]

sweep is fine, at worst you can just respec into any slam/attack build

[vapid mist]

yes, that's my interpretation

[hot creek]

so they will be STRONGER than they would otherwise be

[high fossil]

Don't sleep on sweep

[hot creek]

you can just throw them onto a dom blow build and MASSIVELY buff it

[chilly depot]

The weapons will attack whatever you hit last with holy strike

[vapid mist]

no, because they only target what you target with holy strike

[chilly depot]

I'm not, the bait is endurance charge stacking with jugg

[vapid mist]

the devs dont want it as a passive minion

[edgy lion]

i REALLY doubt they would make the literally strongest skill in the game for single target

Since if they just keep attacking you would slot it on any melee build

[chilly depot]

That is what the skill says

[high fossil]

I'm going slayer for no discernable reason

[hot creek]

They either attack when you attack, or they attack WHAT you attacked

[chilly depot]

They have a duration

[hot creek]

if they attack WHAT you attacked, then why would they stop if you used something else?

[edgy lion]

does it matter? multistrike once and now you have 4x damage out of nowhere

[vapid mist]

once again, minions do not benefit from your damage, slotting this on a melee build does literally nothing

[edgy lion]

That's why i really doubt they work that again

[vapid mist]

i mean if you want a two button playstyle then sure

[hot creek]

Yes but you can slot them into a dom blow build

[chilly depot]

Holy strike is a minion skill with the strike tag

I'd say absolution over dblow

[vapid mist]

i mean purely from a number perspective, dom blow is an absolutely garbage skill

definitely go absolution if you are doing this

but well, as with other minions builds, its all about socket pressure

with specters, animated guardian, auras and defensive setup, you gotta drop something, but it becomes an issue of is it worth it

also this skill requires a pure stat stick melee weapon

but most minion power comes from weapon + shield

you are making a lot of compromises here

[mystic hound]

all this minion talk is making me sick

[chilly depot]

That's why you go reliqurian to help with auras

[vapid mist]

real, me angry and fire around me, life is easy

[chilly depot]

I feel you, I prefer big bonk

[hot creek]

Why big bonk when can big bonk with friends?

[chilly depot]

That's what sweep is for

I get hammers with big bonk

[rocky tinsel]

How will voidstones work now with the new system? since map items arent tied to layouts

[chilly depot]

Also has it been said if maurader is keeping sweep as a quest reward?

[chilly depot]

Still should be the same

Just high tier map drops

[vapid mist]

it will look soomething like this

[patent spade]

voidstones will give bonuses to mapping.

[vapid mist]

the question mark is a voidstone specific mod that applies in that quadrant

[molten solstice]

So what's the good Holy skill

[high granite]

Nice holy strike looks gud, slap in a "5" link purity and its gaming time

[hot creek]

It's not mentioned in the patch notes, so I imagine marauder still gets it

[vapid mist]

absolution remains solid

the rest is fairly experimental

[molten solstice]

O ye I mean the new ones

[high granite]

I havent been burnt too hard from new skills these days

[chilly depot]

They all look good

[high granite]

Unlike the 2.0 and early 3.0 days

[high granite]

Lmao I wonder when the fuck they will be hitting the magical 4.0

[vapid mist]

holy hammer is the safest, the rest are 50/50

[chilly depot]

Sweep is good

The shield skill is definitely 50/50

[vapid mist]

you know what 4.0 is

[rocky tinsel]

so if youre in a map in that area, only t16s will drop

[vapid mist]

oor should i say 4.04

[frank gate]

WASD.

[molten solstice]

I see 🤔

[high granite]

Well what ever it is people wont be wanting to shoot themselves anymore playing melee on templar

[vapid mist]

i dont trust skills where half the damage is described as "randomly" on the gem

[odd gate]

it would probably be adding wasd or something
since that would fundamentally change how every skill functions

[frank gate]

Exactly.

[high granite]

They put in a bunch of acc nodes near him so thats nice

[vapid mist]

seems like it, quite the weird change but what do i know

[chilly depot]

That's if you sweep more than 8 targets, plus the AOE on the hammers is decent

[vapid mist]

so 1 hammer guaranteed per monster if less than 9 ?

[chilly depot]

Yes

[vapid mist]

hmm, i guess you could game it with hateful accuser or worms

but the AOE will have to be seen

[chilly depot]

1.2 base for the hammers, 2.8 for sweep

[high fossil]

I hear hydrosphere may also have some sweep shenanigans

[chilly depot]

Yeah with battle mage cry

Dream core has a video on sweep

[vapid mist]

until it gets hotfixed like every previous interaction with that skill they gutted

at what point do they realize they dont want anything to interact with hydrosphere and just remove it ?

[chilly depot]

For AOE scaling for sweep I plan to go jugg and stack endurance charges

[high fossil]

They hydros-fear its true power

[mystic hound]

fuckin hell idk if I want to do life stacker reliquarian (this is more memey), pyroclast reliquarian, static strike of gathering something (slayer probably?) or flicker slayer.

to many choices. :<

[chilly depot]

You can leave....

[high fossil]

I wish

[chilly depot]

Flicker reliqurian

[mystic hound]

idk bout that

[chilly depot]

Free est for league start and tear of purity not bad

[vapid mist]

what's the plan with lifestacking here ? i dont see any obvious synergies

[vapid mist]

it is bad compared to any melee ascendency tho

[high fossil]

Burden of shadows, 5% of life as chaos dmg

[vapid mist]

brass dome is the only saving grace

[frank gate]

I'm thinking about a build I found, reliquarian, WoCoT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lRuIcNolk

[mystic hound]

Kinda memey but yea burden of shadows, forbidden rites cwdt shenanigans, like I said, definitely gonna be bad, I want to do it tho just to see what I can pull off making a build myself

[mystic hound]

Not having the phys as extra on grace of goddess makes this kinda sad feeling, but I did like this video as well. Fun idea.

[frank gate]

Yeah.

[vapid mist]

i mean you can definitely go reliquarian, but you will be pathing right for mine nodes, and then you get nothing defensive or offensive that's synergistic on the ascendency outside of astral projector

[frank gate]

Yeah, I was considering either Trickster or Sab as a secondary option.

[patent spade]

i don't thing the qol we are getting from reliquarian is good enough to make up from losing all the insane stuff we get from literally any other ascendancy.
as a very early game ascendancy it could be good. but so far i think it's more of a meme than anything worth using past the first 20 to 30 divines to fund a better build.

[frank gate]

Yeah.

[mystic hound]

pyroclast mines seems like the only one that can really make use of it all and its still kinda mid lol

[high fossil]

That's true, but i also suspect there is going to be some truly degenerate interactions discovered that you'll need a massive amount of other gear to really take advantage of

[mystic hound]

true

I hope so

[high fossil]

Ikr

[frank gate]

I mean the Dome+Dome is already really good.

If it works.

[mystic hound]

double armour won't stack, but you can get 8 max res and a lot of armour which is nice

oh brass dome doesnt have doubel armour on the og uniuqe

but still

lol

[vague hemlock]

I'm just waiting for Original Sin reliquarian

[vapid mist]

it would certainly be an interesting choice on an armour chest piece to have that mod instead of 100% more armour

[frank gate]

I kinda wish Scion could FF/ff any ascendancy.

[patent spade]

imagine. everyone and their mother would be playing that. lmao

[nocturne sand]

poison aw seems complicated from the maxroll guide is it ok for new ish players

[frank gate]

Right now I'm debating between a mine user, and a Toxic Rain Pathfinder.

[mystic hound]

couldn't pay me to play a bow build

[vague hemlock]

I love that 2/3 of the conversion part of OSin is worth two ascendancy points. Really puts into perspective how good it is

[vapid mist]

it doesnt seem like a particularly difficult build to cobble together, however it relies on a chest piece called foulborn covenant for most of it's damage, which can be quite expensive at the start. if you dont know how to gather currency early on, it may be better to use a build that has less item requirements

[patent spade]

toxic rain pf is still the same good old build.
it's been made much easier to build if you get the foulborn quill rain that makes it so that the lack of mana to use the skill doesnt matter.
and it's really straight forward to gear.

[nocturne sand]

the other build I kinda wanted to play more anyway was KB, but ik the single target dmg is bad, should i just do that instead and swap later once i have currency?

[vapid mist]

i would rather you go minions as a new player to be honest

[patent spade]

unless you know how to build kb, i suggest something else. if you aren't comfortable with zdps while getting your voidstones, or getting a carry, then you'll have a miserable time.

[vapid mist]

i think the main thing you need to be mindful of is that jewels matter A LOT for that particular build

[nocturne sand]

ik like the trans bladefall and aw gems are important guide said potentially really expensive how bad is it?

[vapid mist]

before you get your covenant, you really need the additional damage on jewels, so be mindful of that

[patent spade]

most minions, toxic rain, ballista totems, shield crush, are all really comfy and straight forward builds for new players.

[nocturne sand]

last league was my first serious league got 2 voidstones i have 250 hours

I did toxic rain pf before wasnt my favorite

[vapid mist]

aw gem is a couple chaos, you can even farm it yourself, not sure about bf of tartarus

[nocturne sand]

i tried looking up prices for current league to get a rough estimate but keepers is gone and standard says 3d lol

[vapid mist]

you can use regular bladefall temporarily, it will just be a clickable on every minion summon instead of toggle and forget thing

[nocturne sand]

ive played piano builds before so idc that much

[fleet sequoia]

anyone know if essences are ok with ignite

[patent spade]

you need to know how to make currency early on, or you might take weeks building the baseline.

[fleet sequoia]

essence + breach is my starting idea

[nocturne sand]

whats the usual good one thats safe becuase i did struggle getting going this league

[vapid mist]

then you'll be fine, it isnt very piano anyway, the important thing is that you dont brick your build because you can't secure an item, good luck !

[nocturne sand]

never felt like i had alot of money

[vague hemlock]

Just to make sure: a t4 and a t3 unique are not going to be hard to get at leaguestart, right?

[fleet sequoia]

nah

thats super common

[nocturne sand]

i had like 3 or 4 d by the end in total but i never felt like i was making decent money

[vapid mist]

if you know what a t4 and t3 are, i dont think you need an answer for that

[vague hemlock]

Same. Probably would get more money if I followed another person's guide, but I don't want to do that

[fleet sequoia]

uh

if you're having trouble that early

[vapid mist]

well this is the league to learn how to get rich :D

[fleet sequoia]

i would just focus on getting 2 stones and then findign an early strat to get a couple d rolling

maybe breach essence? XD

[frank pike]

if you dont mind slower progression, doing harvest while doing map completion is a great way to have a few divs when you finish atlas

[hot quail]

The trans Bladefall is a big quality of life piece

*trathus

[fleet sequoia]

wait how do we get our stones this league again?

searing eater maven?

[vapid mist]

one from searing and eater at the same time, one from maven, one from base elder and shaper (no more uber yay), one from all incarnations killed

[frank pike]

eater+exarch | all 3 zana memory bosses | elder + shaper OR uber elder | maven

[ripe basalt]

how many trade site tabs are you guys gonna have on league start

[patent spade]

usually you need to learn how to liquidate all your currency and make it divines early on.
if you have any gear drops, liquidate them for cheap as well.
look for early flips on the market, it's mostly a knowledge and research based thing, so it's hard to recommend anything in particular.
a lot of people make the mistake of sitting on hundreds of chaos worth of bubblegum currency instead of trading it away as investment.
i've done more than 40 divines just by selling fusings, alts, chances, etc.

[fleet sequoia]

ohhh so no need for uber elder specifically now got it

[frank pike]

ye

[fleet sequoia]

and they combined eater + searing ok

bet cool ty

[nocturne sand]

gotcha thanks

[nocturne sand]

how does that work?

[fleet sequoia]

iunno

thats what theyre telling me lol

[frank pike]

after you kill both it will drop probably

[high fossil]

When you kill the second one, you'll get the stone

[patent spade]

you kill one, then kill the other, and then you get the voidstone from kirak, or something_

[vapid mist]

it used to be that each one would give their own voidstone, now you need both killed before you drop it

[fleet sequoia]

probably drops on the 2nd boss kill

there we go

see

XD

[vague hemlock]

WealthyExile and Awakened PoE trade are probably the two things that helped me start making divines. Helped me realise what was actually profitable and what was garbage. Also I became less afraid of high tier maps and map mods

[patent spade]

pretty much.
learning how to use those tools changes your view on items and currency.
if not, it also usually takes one big pp lucky drop to change the way you see everything.
i used to be a 2 divine build andy that struggled with voidstones, until i accidentally got a mageblood from ancient orbs.
went from barely able to run t16s, to clearing the entire game.
and after that, every league was consistently farming over 400divs, having mirrors, and easily completing challenges. and even now i'm still learning ways to be better at it.

[vapid mist]

embrace gsf, embrace communism

[patent spade]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

our mageblood

[vapid mist]

earn everything through the hard toil of you(r guildmates)

idk, trade gets tiring after a while, especially with all the FOMO kingsmarch introduced, it went from "i cant wait to farm" to "i'm gonna fall behind on gold because i logged in late today"

[patent spade]

i have a guild i made for playing with some friends.
and no one logs in anymore.
so i just stash leveling items and meme things i find.
lmao

[vague hemlock]

Unfortunately, I have yet to convince anyone I know IRL to play
I know someone who used to play, years ago, but that's it

[civic jolt]

I checked out wealthy exile but it had a problem with pricing item crazy high. Like it put lv 20/0 normal gem at 100d.

[vapid mist]

my only success IRL was a guy who finished act 1... in 10 hours... over the course of 3 weeks

needless to say, it aint going well

[high fossil]

This is the worst cult i've ever been in, so hard to recruit

[patent spade]

i made a full mirror this league while completely disregarding kingsmarch.
i wanted to confirm that it is not as important as other make it out to be.
and yeah, i did struggle a bit more than before when i had a bad streak of rng, but it's completely avoidable if you don't want to engage with it.

[vapid mist]

but you probably could have made 2 with kingsmarch is what i'm saying

[nocturne sand]

i feel like i just never make any money no matter what im doing

[vapid mist]

unless it was done with flipping, in which case that's even worse for me

[molten solstice]

New Static Strike seems nice

[vague hemlock]

Unless it was a trans gem in standard or smth, yeah, it does that. Works for most things, though

[patent spade]

yeah, but i would have had to go out of my way to get gold constantly, because getting gold on my own is ass. but i hate group play with randos.
engaging with anything related to kingsmarch is something i just didnt want to do because i don't like it.
so i just ignored it. and still made a full mirror.
you don't need more than 100 divines to make a functional build to do all the league challenges. so the mirror is just a self imposed goal.

yes, you can get more if you engage with it.
but if you don't you are still not missing much.
i see it more like a bandaid for not having enough knowledge to exploit other aspects of the game or when you are feeling lazy instead.

[vapid mist]

i mean i typically do meme homebrews for most of the league, so i'm confident in my ability too make do with a shoebox and duct tape. hence why i typically just go SSF/GSF unless there's a rare new unique i REALLY wanna try

[patent spade]

same more or less.

[nocturne sand]

whats yalls go to strat off start for early currency?

[vapid mist]

as a new player essence and expedition are probably the most foolproof

[nocturne sand]

and just sell essenses?

[vapid mist]

breach is potentially another one, but it's to be confirmed

[vapid mist]

yes, just essence scarabs and resell

[patent spade]

if a craft looks annoying, i just buy it.
i have some trauma with crafting.
i spent around 80 divines and got giga shafted by rng. i could have just bought the thing for 20.
that tilted me so badly, that if it's not a deterministic craft, i just avoid crafting altogether. lmao

[vapid mist]

assumiong your build can take on the essences

[nocturne sand]

this week is going to feel so long this will be my first ever actual league start so im ready

[nocturne sand]

im assuming it will be allegldy the st is insane

[patent spade]

essences, scarabs, and bubblegum currency are always consistent.
i'm not a big fan of essences early on because usually i get to maps with really scuffed gear. lmao

[vapid mist]

if you do build it correctly it should

[vapid mist]

i mean i'm not gonna recommend essence to an RF player lol

[nocturne sand]

now thats the hard part right there

[vapid mist]

he's starting minions so he should be fine

[patent spade]

2 weeks per map lmao

[nocturne sand]

i dont get the corpse raise specter stuff its such a unique thing

[vapid mist]

god forbid you get a regen / ground

[vapid mist]

you need to, it's a lot of power, basically you can copy any monster, but some monsters have special effects, for example, the big monkeys from act 2 give endurance charges

you wanna aim for those

[nocturne sand]

how do you actually get them, ive never seen them drop

[patent spade]

i once got the conc ground and maven heals and damage reduction on a map.
i didn't notice the combination until i was already in the map, i ended up just clearing as much as i could then left. aint nobody got time for that.

[nocturne sand]

the build i played last league used 2 as a extra aura slot

[vapid mist]

so either you kill the monster and click with raise specter on it's corpse selected on the ground or you get a corpse from ritual (or buy it most likey, but these are expensive early on)

[patent spade]

frenzy charges, and then the other ones give power.

[vapid mist]

ah right, been a while since i played minions

[nocturne sand]

does every mob drop them on every kill type of thing?

[patent spade]

ritual is a relatively profitable mechanic throughout the league.

[nocturne sand]

i just bought them this leauge

[vapid mist]

item corpses are exclusive to ritual, but for physical corpses on the ground, as long as you dont destroy corpses ( with offerings for instance) you can just raise it

[patent spade]

every monster has a corpse that you can raise.
the specter you raise has the same skills as the normal version of the monster.
so generally you want to raise a specter that gives you and allies buffs, or specters that have really high damage and good aoe skills.

you can also use unearth in a zone to get the corpses of the natural monsters that spawn in that zone.

[nocturne sand]

theres a list under progression of ones i want in maps, campaign uses absolution and srs so i dont have to worry about htat

[vapid mist]

the pob you shared mentions this in notes

[nocturne sand]

poe minions are so much diffrent than any other game man

[patent spade]

ritual offers corpses you can buy that have different ranges in quality, which affects the amount of extra effects they give when raised as specters.
imperfect corpses are kinda bad, normal corpses are okay, and you usually want to aim for the perfect corpses, that tend to have really strong auras or extra mechanics that make them much stronger.
and they are exclusve to the ritual mechanic, so you have to either buy them from other players or hope you get them during ritual.
some of them are quite rare.

[nocturne sand]

i think all that makes sense

[vapid mist]

anyway you should consider yourself lucky to be playing minions now, you used to lose spectres and animate guardian items on death

[nocturne sand]

when im innevitablity lost later ill ask again

[nocturne sand]

that is awful

you still loose ag items when it dies tho right

[vapid mist]

it only took 14 years to change that lmao

[vapid mist]

it was changed

[patent spade]

man, i remember spending like 9 divines on an animate guardian, and when i go into a map, it gets instantly killed by an archnemesis mob.
i haven't touched minions since.
lol

[nocturne sand]

that is alot nicer i was worried about that

[patent spade]

yeah, AG now can't be summoned again in the same zone where it died, but it comes back when you go into a new zone.
idr what goes on with specters though

[nocturne sand]

so what if you it dies in a map you just tp then go to menagerie or something and resummon and then go backto map

i think specters just respawn thats what happened on my trapper they just appered again after a few seconds

[vapid mist]

similar, they get auto resummoned in another instance iirc

[patent spade]

fair.

[nocturne sand]

i think i understand most of it now

[patent spade]

if your AG dies in a map, it cant spawn anymore in that specific map instance.
for example, you are doing silo, and AG dies for whatever reason, you won't have the AG during the rest of that map clear.
you can still open a new silo map instance and the AG will be back as normal.

[nocturne sand]

ah

[vapid mist]

instance means any zone for clarity, your hideout is also an instance

anyway, that's it for me today, take care lads, and good luck on the league start !

[nocturne sand]

if i left silo he respawned at hideout or whereever when i reload silo itll still be gone

?

[vapid mist]

i think that is how it works

[nocturne sand]

thanks a ton for the help makes tons more sense

[patent spade]

yes, that's how it works.
no cheesing the same map zone instance.
it sucks, since AG usually adds a ton of damage and utility, but at least you dont lose all the items you had it equipped with anymore.

[nocturne sand]

yeah i was wondering about that you loose alot of util

im guessing in hc you just close map and go again instead of risking

with the new mapping doesnt that make getting all ur basic maps much easier/

[patent spade]

you have to decide if you want to go back into the map without the AG or if it would be better to take the full L and go to the next map.

i guess?

[nocturne sand]

when is it worth switching from trying to complete as many new maps as possible to going for a currency strat?

[patent spade]

with the new system you dont have to worry about getting the next connected map anymore.
so you can push as hard as you want for completion.

i'd recommend making an atlas tree focused on pushing map completion, push as hard as you can until you get stuck.
usually that will happen around the same time when you get your second atlas tree tab. when you do, you grab all the farming nodes for whatever you want to farm, and sit on yellow maps until you are comfortable with your gear, then continue pushing reds until you get the voidstones.

some recommend push red maps and get the voidstones before setting currency farms.
but unless you know what you are doing, just stay in yellow maps and get currency there until you level and get some upgrades. it reduces pain points for yourself.
i've done hard pushing before and i was not having fun anymore. i just went back to yellow maps for 2 days, farmed 10 divines, swapped to a better build and then steamrolled the rest of the game.

most early game farms only need 40 to 60 points anyway.

[nocturne sand]

gotcha again thank you tons

[patent spade]

[eternal nebula]

what does the patch that just came out change for ele hit

that means the breachlord ascendancy wont make it all added cold flat right?

[young knoll]

Does anybody know if the mtx for animate weapon, work for animate guardian (weapon)?

[crude plank]

trust arakaali's fang is meta this league

[vocal pollen]

is there any point to starting now or should i just wait for the new league

[high fossil]

You'll need to start a new character in Mirage league after it launches to play in there.
If you'd like to do a bit of no-consequence testing, see what kind of skills you might like etc, then there's no harm in messing around in Standard league for a couple of days.
If you think that would feel like "losing progress", and you'd be bored by repeating early quests, then just wait for the league to launch.

[hollow osprey]

Something to notice is that Holy Strike has no reduced attack speed compared to most other strike skills

Actually I was thinking of going Zerker for this instead of Guardian

[young knoll]

All content creators talking up totems but bows gonna be meta 2nd build so start it first to get in cheap. Bow gear will be cheap af

[civic jolt]

i see people streaming making pob build for the new league but how do they do that when there isn't a new update for pob yet?

[crude plank]

I refuse, my spiders are unbeatable

[eternal nebula]

everything is still mostly the same, and new items that give certain buffs can be added in the config

• all the pobs arent being made for the new skills

at least to my knowledge

[high fossil]

It's also worth noting that some of the pobs may well be completely wrong and need to be massively reworked

But that won't stop people

[livid prairie]

what league starter will be super easy for farming and getting up this league?

[patent spade]

theory crafting is fun. and while the pobs might not represent the full picture yet, it's a good approximation for what to expect of some skills' performance.

[plush coyote]

shockwave cyclone is always easy, assuming you start with a class that has weapon or physical damage nodes

[patent spade]

what type of build do you like to play?
what farm mechanics do you enjoy?
usually the easiest is just what you are comfortable with playing on scuffed gear, not what's strongest.
that's why most streamers just start with more or less the same build every league.

[reef igloo]

does an aurabot work with a mine build, i wanna play glacial cascade of fissure but i dont know if aura bot works with it.

[ionic coyote]

it kinda should

[frail tide]

It does, but typically you want an elemental attack build to make full use of an aurabot

[ionic coyote]

its just probably less efficient with spell builds

[celest chasm]

im torn between kf totems and manman, any suggestions?

[ionic coyote]

at least glacial cascade benefits from hatred since its a phys to cold spell, but i dont think haste, wrath and anger would do anything for a mine build

[celest chasm]

kf totems has higher dps early but less recovery and tank, whereas manaman has lower dps but higher tank early

[frail tide]

I mean start kf totems if that's your two options, then respec once you have the money, you really don't want to be starting manaman i think

[celest chasm]

yea starting manaman seemed cumbersome

so many uniques that make it feel good, and you are kinda weak until later

is the recovery not a problem on kf totems?

[frail tide]

You get %hp and mana regen per totem from heiro, so it's not quite as jank as other non-dot totems for recovery

[celest chasm]

oo

oh i never even saw that node

yea thats huge

[frail tide]

Like checking palsterons starter one he has 6 totems? So that's 6% hp regen and 3% mana regen recovery immediately, i've not looked through the rest but it's a decent baseline.

[celest chasm]

200 regen maybe 300

i mean you have life flasks and its only leauge start

recon it could handle the 40 point ultimatum farm? or is that too much and its better for essence/alch go/jun type of farming

[frail tide]

Should be alright, i had a little look at the PoB, you get another 1% from templar start + 0.8% from endurance charge exarch mod on boots. + decent block? + life flask for emergencys.

Then it swaps into aegis when it gets the currency it looks like at which point the regen should easily cover any chip that makes it through aegis ES.

[celest chasm]

thats pretty solid

prob could get aegis day 2, play with that for a day and then swap manaman once i get some currency to make it feel less sluggish

if i had some good rng ive had on my practice runs, 2d before t16 maps is a possbility xd

even got a divine shrine in a t14 map 😭

[boreal wraith]

Anyone have any thoughts on the new siphoning trap of pain - i want to run it but unsure what ascendancy is best for it - previously on reap exsang the frenzy charges from trickster made it good
but i dont think frenzy charges look like theyll impact how these traps do damage - considering they have a 3 second duration?
Want to play it but unsure of the best ascendancy

[celest chasm]

might be making it up but i thought lily mentioned it in her leauge start tree branch video

there was some trap i thought

[boreal wraith]

ok i will look

base stats look solid especially with 15 targets at 20/20

[shell coyote]

just saw the trailer. Holy Strike looks cool is that the new DB???

[wanton scroll]

hey fellow exiles. im a returning player lookin to come back and focus some heist. any recommended S tier heist builds? bonus points if it doesnt melt a geriatric pc

[bleak marsh]

How is Hroc build in Mirage , any nerfs? I want to try it this time

[celest chasm]

toxic rain pathfinder

its the meta iirc

[celest chasm]

whatd db?

[boreal wraith]

She just says its prob good, not much detail tho

[celest chasm]

Ahh mb

[livid prairie]

Ive played alot of LA/Deadeye along with Necro as well my playstyle is usually just whatever will let me reach the endgame using the minimum amount of buttons possible usually doing MF or Deli wanna go into bossing this league possibly or deli again

[patent spade]

if you want a decent all-rounder that could get you into bossing while also being able to play deli, you could look into toxic rain, it's always solid. you could go full toxic rain, or do the much more popular caustic arrow for clear, toxic rain for bossing/tanky rares set up. technically a 1 button build since you still only use one or the other depending on the situation. but i get that not many like the dot playstyle.
if you want to go for meta, kinetic fusillade is a good map runner with decent boss killing potential. there's going to be guides for it everywhere.
if you don't want to go for meta, but still want something with high ceiling, that will be comfy throughout the league you could go for str-int stacking, hybrid life-energy shield stacking inquisitor, cast on crit ice spear of splitting or some other spell using lancing steel of spraying as driver. if you dont like that, you can always do the swap to kinetic fusillade or another templar build. easy and dumb fun.
if you dont care about anything, just spin to win with a cyclone build, peak of the 1 button builds.

[spare mesa]

Guys so do the voidstones only apply to the quadrant they are earned from? Or you just have to progress the earn the voidstone that applies to entire atlas?

[shell coyote]

dominating blow

[vast gale]

Where can i find builds for Poe mirage?

[livid prairie]

Word yeah i was currently thinking of kinetic fusillade but i saw the video made by jungroan so praying there isnt any last minute patches

[patent spade]

reading is hard.

[spare mesa]

I see and do we know the specific thing each voidstone grants specifically?

[high fossil]

Well it is in the extra patch notes added today, so i forgive them.

[high fossil]

I don't believe so

[patent spade]

doubt it.
it's not broken. it's just still the brand new thing. it is strong. but there's been more egregious skills that went on for several leagues without being nerfed.

[livid prairie]

true

[high fossil]

A lot of guides are still being updated, but also a lot of starter builds from last league will still function the same. You can have a look at maxroll.gg if you like detailed written guides, or find a reputable streamer like zizaran on youtube for video guides. Zizaran also often discusses other people's builds, so he can be a good starting point for finding other creators.

If you find a guide you're not sure about, post in one of the help channels here and see what people think

[spare mesa]

And all neefs to mamba except for attack speed was reverted right?

[patent spade]

pretty much

[high fossil]

It also got 20% less damage with hits while dual weilding, and it cannot inflict multiple poisons in the same hit

[patent spade]

if only they remembered cobra lash.
rip

[patent spade]

the 20% less damage is oof, but the poison in the same hit barely does anything, since it's being used for a single big poison proc anyway.

[high fossil]

Basically they left the "as intended" mamba poison functioning, and overperforming edge cases like hit-based mamba and multi-poison shenanigans got pruned

So it should still be a strong build, just a little clunkier to play with the speed

[patent spade]

pretty much.

[upper dragon]

still haven't decided what to go, that excommunicate support seems kinda nice cause then just slam and focus on elemental resists, but that permanent guardian summon is so tempting. and that shock nova of precession from the reveal looks nice

[patent spade]

we are spoiled for choice.

[upper dragon]

perhaps for league start just to get to maps i had an old guardian minion melee spam build i did in the mercenary league, though i think i went more aurabot, basically aura and summon heralds while spamming absolution. slow but pretty easy

though it would be alot slower without the merc

[glad vector]

How does Toxic Rain seem this league?
With t17s being removed I feel like it might be a bit better at the high end

[patent spade]

still the same skill.
solid mid range investment build.

[glad vector]

Thought so haha.
I just remember the build had some damage issues when super juicing T17s (unless you had giga gear)

[hot quail]

Dot build have limited damage at the very hard top ends

So that does track

[clever saddle]

what do you guys generally pick with the bandits, eramir or alira

[pine topaz]

eramir

[brisk linden]

Alira early, then forget to ever respec later

[clever saddle]

wait what you can respec that? how?

[rose dragon]

There is vendor recipe

Check on wiki

I tend to go alira early eramir late but recently a bunch of times I went from eramir back to alira when minmaxing

15% all res for a passive point is kinda a trade that makes a lot of sense often

[brittle bobcat]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Deal_with_the_Bandits#Changing_the_Bandit_choice

20 regretterinos and an amulet.

[hollow bloom]

Berserker vs gladiator flicker
I keep going back and forth

[tawny ravine]

So I imagine Rallying Cry should work with Holy Strike since they're all minions?

[sterile atlas]

Mechanically yes, and that was the warcry the character in the preview was using, so seems a safe bet.

[tawny ravine]

Sounds great

[winged wedge]

Block is very comfy

Triple lucky block, as suggested by Magefist, is very very tanky

[winged wedge]

Magefist is to Flicker what Pohx is to RF. If he thinks glad flicker is a good balance between survival and damage, then it will work

[novel void]

thoughts on this to use for PF mamba?

[winged wedge]

It took this long for me to link Abyssals with Metamorph/Saresh

Abyssals have this boss called Kurgal the Black-blooded. And Metamorph league was basically just black goo monsters and Tane wondering if there was some innate, tangible evil substance found in people that could be extracted

[winged wedge]

An eternal or divine life flask has 45 charges, with Ample that can become 45+35=80 charges. If that one is full when you use an attack the attack gets +80% DOT multi. Very hefty, but it takes up an amulet

Bear in mind, it says "Set A life flask with greater than..." so you can't sacrifice charges from more than one flask per attack

[tawny ravine]

Since hallow support says doesn't modify skills used by minions I'm gonna assume it won't trigger on HS minions hitting?

[sterile atlas]

Right, it won't apply the debuff.

(Minion hits can use the debuff the player applies though.)

[pale imp]

is ice nova of frostbolt a good league start?

[eternal trail]

Anyone cooking smth with chaos frogs ? 👀

[bright arch]

@midnight phoenix

[midnight phoenix]

Huh

THE FROGPOCALYPSE IS COMING

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[quaint ember]

gladiator

surviving feels nicer

[prisma cliff]

Noob, skill issues, solo stones, delve at 350-400 - is bleed lacerate of haemorrage Gladiatorro good for me?

[chilly depot]

Yes

[patent spade]

depends.
its not worth it if your plan is to only use that build the whole league.
damage, even with borderline mirror tier gear is laughable for the level of investment.
but it's okay as a build you pivot out of after you get some currency.

[quaint ember]

same thing with me and Death's Oath

It's a wonderful build for clearing maps but I'm not sure how well it's gonna go against ubers

might have to make another character just for bossing

hiero pizza totems probably

[patent spade]

i haven't used death's oath after the buffs. but you could double the damage and it would still not be enough to do any type of bossing. so yeah, you kind of need a second character that can boss.

[stoic solar]

Anyone have any league start recommwndations?

[storm matrix]

Can anyone estimate how the Kinetic Fusillade totem build (eg Palsteron is going to start it) will scale beyond 2 stones? Afaik he wants to transition to wand mana stacker, but I dont want to. Is there any way to get this build to 4 stones and beyond? I miss playing totem/ballista and Id like to play such a build this league.

[chilly depot]

Whatever looks fun to you

[prime tree]

You could see if anything on fubgun's or tyty's starter list strikes your fancy and then look further into those builds. Could also peruse the poe build subreddit with the knowledge that there isn't much quality control besides people up or downvoting the posts.
https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1rhrpur/fubguns_328_starter_tier_list/
https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1rgfvjz/tytykillers_tier_list/
(viper strike of the mamba was unnerfed again, so that's probably still an A to B tier starter)

[sleek jacinth]

this is probably the weakest node

[hot quail]

Wait, mamba still needs low tolerance to pop off, right? Thats not exactly league start available. Unless you start as something else and pivot

[bronze mantle]

It's not for flicker

[chilly depot]

It's ehh for flicker, by the time you get it you will have an est already

That's third lab

[prime tree]

tunner's mamba should be basically unchanged and was perfectly fine for league start afaik
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/viper-strike-of-mamba-pathfinder-league-starter

just need to invest in some attack speed instead of literally none, so it doesn't feel bad to use

it was A-tier on fubgun's 3.27 list

[frank gate]

Yeah the reliquarian I think could use a start on either side option. Or a start in any direction. It'd still be really disadvantageous to use. But it would enable doing 2 labs, then picking up a bloodline far easier.

[stoic solar]

not too helpful kinda already knew that😔

[stoic solar]

ooooooooo thanksss ill look into this

[frank gate]

Is your quote in your bio from Shadow Slave(Which is an epic webnovel, and not as R18+ sounding as the name implies), dude and or dudette? Random fucking question I'm sorry. But I've been catching up recently, and I just got to the epigone quote, but I can't remember if that's the exact quote.

Also, what do you like to do, as far as Ideas, I've really been liking the idea of a mine user start. Or maybe totems. But this league I think I'm gonna run 3 separate characters. Because I have two mechanics that benefit heavily from overspecialization that I kinda want to focus in on. Along with the main league mechanic. Being Heist and Sanctum. I wanna "get gud" at them

[hasty perch]

Change your quicksilver for a silver

[sleek jacinth]

i know, still weak

[stoic solar]

yeahh it is, might not be the exact one no just what i remembered, just found that moment really cool.
i think im gonna play flicker to start this league.... been a few leagues since i last played it and i find it really fun. might try out a miner aswell since ive never played as a shadow before

also i am a dude yeah

[frank gate]

Straight up gave me goosebumps.

Flicker looks really cool. It's tempting.

[stoic solar]

definetly!!!

[bronze mantle]

And you'd sacrifice a perfectly good weapon slot. The entire point of these is you can free a slot to make it better

I'm not saying it's the best asc node in the game, I'm just happy flicker gets some love. Same with the timepiece one and beacon of madness

There are more powerful and build enabling ones for sure

[prime tree]

the guide has silver+qs, haven't played or looked into the build beyond seeing tunner play it a bit last league, so not sure where and what changes you'd make to get some AS on the build tbh

[hasty perch]

Can get an AS suffix on dagger

Really it doesnt matter much

[fleet phoenix]

Remove your 40 power charges and 1000% additional damage modifier before posting a single POB dps number lol

[vestal sphinx]

Do we know how imbued supports will work in a trigger setup? For example, if I have a cyclone imbued with power charge on crit, linked with coc and a lvl 21 spell gem, will that spell gem get supported by the pcoc on the cyclone gem?

[wary smelt]

yea other gems are supported by the imbued one

its why they limited to 1 per equipment slot

[prisma quest]

Hey fellow Humans 🤖
is the only HRoC Guide really by Balormage? And I assume the Mirage-is-a-new-instance-thing. won't screw with HRoC right?

[lost hazel]

imagine having powcharge on crit, endurance charge on melee stun and some others that are high value at level 1 in a 6link where its 1 skill triggering 4 of them, you'd have a setup with 5 6links

i suppose 1 6link and 4 5links is more correct

[prime tree]

holy relics are permanent minions, so they persist between instances.

[waxen pecan]

is divinarius dagger usually expensive?

[violet peak]

1d maybe?

[torpid vine]

Guys, is Supreme Verdant Magus Supporter pack worth it? The Arcane Isle HO looks sick

[rose dragon]

It's t0 so has at least dust price

[waxen pecan]

I know what t0 means but not the dust price you mention. It fits so well into my build, hoping to get one on hc trade !

[prime tree]

it's cosmetics (and points), so "worth" is almost entirely subjective

[violet peak]

i feel the same way but idk if i can be asked to pay $90

[torpid vine]

Yeah, I am torn to buy it or not. It is up for like 3 more days and I dont want to regret it not buying it when it goes legacy lol

[violet peak]

$90 is crazy tho tbh

thats like 1-2 weeks of food lol

for some mtx

[torpid vine]

It is, I agree

But last MTX I bought was like 16 months ago

[violet peak]

Do you have all the special stash tabs and a few quads?

[torpid vine]

yeah, I do, been playing since 2014 😄

I just got tired of my MTX and everyone says Arcane Isle HO is sick, so FOMO I guess idk

[violet peak]

dont let FOMO guide you lmao

I'd say buying a $90 thing like once a year can be ok, this game is awesome

[torpid vine]

It is not just fomo, I also like the pack, maybe not 100%, but 80% for sure

[violet peak]

but dont do it bc fomo

[torpid vine]

Yeah, I agree totally

[violet peak]

I like the cat thing and map thing from the torturer pack rn

but the titan hideout is cool in the other one

[torpid vine]

yeah, same here, apex is a cool HO as well

and I got a sick map device from free MTX box in poe2

so not considering torturer pack

[wind cradle]

Can someone print the ingame timer to league start

[prime tree]

yw

league starts in 3d0h45m

[merry anchor]

wouldve been funny to leave it blank

[wind cradle]

Lol

[tall plover]

I'm torn between two builds, if I'm planning on doing maven boss rushing and t17s and possibly ubers, do I go for energy blade foulborn ghostwrithe inquisitor or perma vaal absolution necro?

[wind cradle]

😂

So as normal saturday early

[civic jolt]

On league start, is it recommended to skip optional quests and then do them after finished campaign since i would have a lot more gears/speed to run through them or i should still do them because the extra rewarded skills point would in turn make campaign shorter?

[chrome hinge]

hey guys what do you think a good starter build for the new patch is? most people abre opting for fusil totem , absolution or maybe posion/chaose necro what do you guys think ????