1┃mirage-league

[echo bridge]

I think you will need help from someone because of the bosses challenge

The ones that are RNG like starfall crater

[cosmic hill]

you will be sniffed

prepare yourself

[leaden oxide]

what is the best for keepers league . jugg or chieftan rf?

[sonic field]

chief

jugg hasnt been good for rf for a good while now

[leaden oxide]

ok thx.

[iron flicker]

da sniffa

[earnest orbit]

geh

[cosmic hill]

Hello

Hope campaign is going well for you

[earnest orbit]

it is

summoning 40 minions is fun

[cosmic hill]

SRS nice

[earnest orbit]

just completed act 3
Them minions just deleted dominos

[cosmic hill]

Nice

Only 12 more acts to go

[merry anchor]

why would you kill dominos. they deliver pizza

[earnest orbit]

Papa johns better

[merry anchor]

some of us dont have that option

[earnest orbit]

damn
I have that option but I rarely eat pizza

Hell I rarely eat anything that would make me fat

[merry anchor]

https://klipy.com/gifs/usagi-chiikawa-23

[quiet torrent]

ohoh this is amazing im doing t15 16 maps not too juice but i can yea my build not max yet tbh but i hope i can do these 36 now ihave 10

[quiet torrent]

oh thanks yea i will ask for help hope i can get some

now im doing this challenge but iv used all my scarabs for niko may i ask for 1 scarab if you can help

[echo bridge]

Im at the gym rn but when I log in I can donate some

[shut crescent]

I just love this challenge... waste of currency

[echo bridge]

People say you can get it in Kirac mission IDK about that

[shut crescent]

NEVER seen it there...

[echo bridge]

But it must be more affordable than the 30 div map

[shut crescent]

LOL okay nvm, Comprehensive Scouting Reports can make it show up xD

[echo bridge]

You can ask for @quiet torrent if he can come in

He trying to do all the challenges too

[shut crescent]

Yeah anyone that needs it can join lol

[civic jolt]

this my first league so i am sure why but is it because the league is close to ending that chaos orb lose its value? a few weeks ago a divine was only 150c now it is already 250+

[merry anchor]

no one puting new divs in circulation drives up the price so yea, league being close to done does that

[civic jolt]

oh like the hardcore players stopped playing so the supply of divs got smaller?

[merry anchor]

thats true for hardcore and softcore. when the playerbase shrinks, no one is adding whatever everyone wants into the pool of things to be purchased

[civic jolt]

mb i meant the "hardcore grinding" people not hardcore game mode player

[merry anchor]

yea

but if you patient enough to wait the next league in less than 2 weeks

or you can mess around on standard if you need supply

[crisp grail]

I need to speed through challenges

I only had a few days playing Phrecia so just migrated to keepers now

what build should I go for on a budget + mageblood

[green remnant]

Some stranger i met did 33 challenges in 2 days on hroc

[crisp grail]

I leveled on a shadow so basically stuck with trickster, right now either going to go smite or exs mines

[simple drum]

is anyone one about to fight the maven? I would like to pay for the completion, no time to make a boss killer character rn

[sonic field]

no asking for paid carries on this server

tft is for that

[simple drum]

sorry i didn't know

I looked for that server i have no idea where to ask XD

[echo bridge]

what are your characters?

[quiet torrent]

hey everyone ^^

looking for help pls anyone here doing challenges i have 11 done

[echo bridge]

this is a easy one

[quiet torrent]

im done with this

[echo bridge]

did you capture 3 minor pantheons?

[quiet torrent]

i did it yesterday but im sick i couldnt play for along time

im on this now yea

we need specific maps for these panthrons right

[echo bridge]

and divine vessels on map device

[quiet torrent]

i have like 6 vessels

if im not wrong yea

[echo bridge]

have you done the uber lab?

[quiet torrent]

oh sorry back

you mean Trial of Ascendancy?

im done with this yea

[echo bridge]

did you get a bloodline ascendancy too?

[quiet torrent]

im not sure tbh how can i check that

[grand fossil]

^ also that last task can be aligned with doing objectives for this challenge:

[quiet torrent]

guys how can i expand this ??

and how can i get fast\more graftblood we have challenge for this 😭

[sonic stirrup]

Better graft

[quiet torrent]

the hand you mean

[green remnant]

They're called grafts

[civic jolt]

is there any fun build i can try with 50 div budget? or they are usually much more expensive?

[grand fossil]

two grafts with max rolled "% increased graftblood gained" prefixes give 50% increase there

[sonic stirrup]

There's nothing called a hand no

[fast kettle]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Golden_Hand

-# job

[drifting thicket]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[young hound]

Can anyone help me finish the Challenges? 36 for helmet

[frank pike]

go to tft, they sell chalange completion help there

[quiet torrent]

but how much :\

[real ingot]

Your soul

[summer jackal]

• your offering a job by any chance 😄 ?

[supple crag]

How long is usually the new league reveal stream?

[proper pendant]

About 30-40 minutes

Guys , I am interested in doing Delve next league , at what lvl do I start dropping valuable stuff where I can afford to buy HH and stuff like that ?

[gritty basin]

👀 We're officially Mirage League now

[barren crescent]

This channel is an illusion

[vapid plaza]

Somewhere 600-1000 last time I delved

[lunar stirrup]

RIP mercenary T_T

[iron pilot]

guys im behind on the stream. Has anything been said about WASD movement yet?!

Please for the love of god say they introduce it into this league.

[unkempt sedge]

so, is farasta a bad guy or a good guy?

[mortal crane]

fuc i missed the actual meat of the stream

i hear new accendancy

[paper crow]

it's the reliquary ascendancy from phrecia but they will be changing which uniques are in it every league

[bitter vessel]

when is release date

[coarse bridge]

the way the new maps works not being tied to a specific layout is confusing

[steel river]

any screenshot on the notable passive atlas regarding influenced maps?

[coarse bridge]

i can put a t16 onto a t1 map and its a t16? whats the point of voidstones then?

[stable yoke]

voidstones juice up your maps.

[paper crow]

^^

[proper pendant]

can't wait to see the numbers for the new holy skills , i prayed for them

[plush robin]

nu uh

[tough cosmos]

time to clean dust from better poe

[dreamy raven]

Are we still able to force a content via Tree?

[narrow sedge]

What builds are best for blight and uber bossing?

that can be league started

[zinc dagger]

are we winning?

[inner pulsar]

Yes.

[dreamy raven]

ohh so those sextant are just upgrade version of memory tree?

[inner pulsar]

The number of mods on voidstones shown in the stream is much longer than the mods on stones in the live build. So I think they a) have their own unique effects and b) don't only affect map drops now.

[dreamy raven]

also i couldnt get it or missed so voidstone dont increase map lvl?

[inner pulsar]

The sextants seems to be an upgrade of the memory strands yeah.

[dreamy raven]

or what?

like it says higher tier then it also says convert to gold or something

[sonic field]

its not needed anymore

[lilac wadi]

is there a video yet? I lost the livestream cause of a stupid meeting

[dreamy raven]

why ? dont we need higher tier maps? like once i have unlocked t16 how to make sure i get t16 only ?

[inner pulsar]

I think I saw something about the voidstone allowing Exceptional Gems to drop from bosses

[sonic field]

you have a general map (tier x) item and you can choose which map you run it in, although i think maps have minimal tier they can be ran with

[dreamy raven]

wait t16 should drop t16 and since we can use map to any map its not needed

got it

and every tier should drop higher tier just like poe2

[dreamy raven]

yeah lineage gems from PoE 2 technically

but better

i dont like the keepers tree it drops the purpose of crafting and ground loot 🙁

[inner pulsar]

Oh. The decayed voidstone is on the League Preview page on the site. One second.

"T1-15 Maps are dropped 1 tier higher"
"T1-15 Maps in areas are converted to Gold"
"T16 Maps in area have a 0.4% chance to be a Nightmare map per Voidstone Socketed"```

Looks like nightmare Maps are the t17 replacement

Notably, the tier up and the gold conversion don't have percentage chances. It is a guaranteed 1 tier up, and a guarenteed conversion to gold.

[dreamy raven]

that explains the lower tier map convert to gold and only higher drops.

[inner pulsar]

So once you kill Uber elder, you will only drop t16 maps.

[dreamy raven]

but we still gonna have higher tier drop right without voidstone and voidstone just guarantees it

[inner pulsar]

The atlas tree as we currently enjoy it still exists. So I think we'll still have chance to get higher tier maps?

But the voistone guarentees it yes.

[dreamy raven]

hopefully we do

cool

[inner pulsar]

Wonder what the exarch/eater stones will do tho

[dreamy raven]

hmm we can use all voidstone or only 1?

[inner pulsar]

Ah, from the site itself Tier 17 Maps have recieved significant changes to better align with their original design. These are now called Nightmare Maps and are now tier 16, with their primary purpose being to obtain Uber Boss Fragments.

[dreamy raven]

if only 1 i think the gold thing will be different for may be more currency more item

more unique

[inner pulsar]

It's now a base type of map, like uniques or Vaal Temple (or whatever that corrupt a t16 map one was)

[inner pulsar]

They showed off slots for each stone in the corners of the atlas

[dreamy raven]

i c then may be that voidstone only affects the quarter area of the map

and as i said more currency more item

gotta rewatch the stream to see

[inner pulsar]

Nah it's global

The astrolabs are the ones that care about the quarters

[stark elbow]

what does this mean exactly?

[waxen juniper]

proj chains all monsters that are in close range?

[paper crow]

within the range it affects, you effectively have infinite chain. there's a similar effect for pierce iirc

[stark elbow]

how does that work with remaining chain count on skills?

[inner pulsar]

I would guess it probably just doesn't count down while it's in close range

[stark elbow]

ah, I think there are no skills with quivers currently that have that

arc is not a proj, cobra lash is claw/dagger

tho there is like cluster node

that can enable that for any chainin skill

Projectiles deal 15% increased Damage with Hits and Ailments for each remaining Chain

[south latch]

Holy Hammer + HoT + New Orb of Storms for HoT Autobomber Revival I'm so excited

[fallow mica]

(✿ =‿‿=) 💤 ͏

[ember totem]

um if anyone plays/played cws 2.0 from emiracle
how do you travel in the map with no free sockets left to put in a dash or travel skill?

[autumn stirrup]

So, we can have 40% increased AOE aura effect from mines and then also apply the 100% quiver bonus while also gaining the astral projection 25% AOE for the mines? As some of mine skills have aura,spell, projectile, nova tags.

Any ideas if this would work as said and also how would the cast at location work with mines as most or all are novas. Would it perhaps change anything?

[supple crag]

I'm absolutely no expert and I quit upgrading it after a while but I had room for both frostblink and shield charge: https://pobb.in/cyaa14hZXPYV

[gusty wraith]

do we have the info on how we'll unlock the frag slots now that they changed t17 maps? like do we still get them from the t17 or somewhere else?

[vague venture]

I wonder if the rest of Reliquarian’s skills will have some way to support Explosive Arrow. Free Widowhail is already kind of nuts.

[ember totem]

thats the RF variant aka cws 1.0
cws 2.0 utilize unearth lv 30 and normal detonate dead to deal dmg

https://pobb.in/Gzf3zstnIkD2

I was thinking to put a gem on a second wep, but that will disable all my auras on switch

[supple crag]

Ah ok. Don't know then

[grim rover]

damnit, this new league is gonna make me play trade. too much cool shit that i will not have all the time to farm. PATCH NOTES AND GEM DATA NAO

[iron flicker]

you dont use unearth in ultimatum its better for simu

[royal dove]

Patch notes where?

[ember totem]

emiracles guide disagrees but I would love to get more info so I can understand how it works

[south latch]

I ran normal RF last league, I'll likely start it again this league

That said if I can proc shock off Holy Hammer I am running the fuck outta HoT Autobomber with that new OoSoS

[maiden thunder]

They're really going PoE 2 with the Atlas changes, hate to see it

[south latch]

They're really not, if anything it's old Atlas but better imo

[echo grove]

@subtle drum What do you think about the new holy skills

[subtle drum]

pretty basic honestly

[plush robin]

yo momma is a wonderful woman

[subtle drum]

i'll probably try leveling with those holy hammer minions

see if it compares to hroc

[subtle drum]

great save

[plush robin]

https://tenor.com/view/positive-vibes-gif-20847983

[round obsidian]

Are we not getting notes today?

[silver kettle]

notes are scheduled now rather than "after Q&A". they will be posted in 15 minutes

[iron flicker]

you must've misread cause he says you dont need it in ultimatum and he right

[round obsidian]

Oh i see, cool ty

[upper arrow]

do the new vaults have heist rewards? i saw display cases.

[craggy wadi]

the display cases are a mechanical thing rather than being related to heist

[tender gulch]

channel got updtaed to Mirage!!!!!!

[upper arrow]

ok thanks.

[echo grove]

Eyo minions?

I didnt see that one

I think im gonna try the shield skill or Holy Sweep

[ember totem]

mind to share where that is written or vid? cuz I have read every bit of the cws and cws 2.0 and faq
and cws 2.0 should be a drop in replacement for both ulti and simu

[paper crow]

Nova based mines work as you'd expect, so for pyroclast mines for example it's just really good

altho, using widowhail's effect for a quiver is kinda throwing when we have foulborn tremor rod right there providing 60-100% aura effect for mine auras

[autumn stirrup]

Nice, I was wondering if that would be the case for mines, seems really good.

I was wondering mostly if the projectile dmg would be boosted for mines with widowhail passive.

[autumn stirrup]

Like for Icicle Mine of Sabotage it would boost the equipped quiver projectile dmg % for all projectiles from the mine right?

Also how would this work for socketed quivers?

[paper crow]

If the mod has a % value it just doubles that value.
For things like +pierce as well it doubles it

It doesn't interact for sockets

you can already see how it works with widowhail currently. so check the wiki for more details

[autumn stirrup]

Will do thanks.

[frail canopy]

Huh, viper strike nerf seems really really bad

[tidal knot]

do we have the tags for holy hammer?

[pine topaz]

No Changes to Minion builds or did i Miss Something ?

[subtle drum]

yes changes to minion builds

templar minion builds

absolution / domination

[pine topaz]

Okay so i didnt Miss anything

[subtle drum]

spectres got a change as well

not that significant i don't think

[pine topaz]

No significant buffs or nerfs

[tidal knot]

looks like slam but idk if the info is released

[dense sequoia]

F to cws ultimatum builds, read the “added a mod that prevents block” and my jaw dropped

[subtle drum]

the significant buff is for domination/absolution

which is sad because i played that this league

[daring crypt]

guys do you think that the updated lioneyes glare is gonna go giga stonks ? the Repeat attacks and 50% more atk speed speed VERY stronk

[subtle drum]

maybe a little

bow repeat is strange

[pine topaz]

I dont enjoy playing Minion builds with temporal Minions that i have to recast constantly

[daring crypt]

was thinking of a Storm rain boss dps and lightingarrow/TS for clear

[subtle drum]

fair

[daring crypt]

with the repeat and 50% more atk speed

[alpine sierra]

Is map rolling gone?

[subtle drum]

i had my fun with it though and can fully recommend

[daring crypt]

thats half of a echoing shrine

[subtle drum]

im probably going sabo anyways

[pine topaz]

Yeah Well No. Will wait for poe2s League i guess

[subtle drum]

fair

have fun

@echo grove either the new holy strike / dark pact + skellies sabo for league start

[rancid gate]

so did they release date yet or ?

[alpine sierra]

How do 8 mod corrupted maps work now?

[subtle drum]

and then swap to vaal absolution with hallowed monarch login

[opaque gate]

Removed all crafts that Enchant Flasks from the Horticrafting Bench. Existing items with these Enchantments are unaffected.

Does this mean no more "Used when flask are full" enchants?

[subtle drum]

those were from the crafting bench

not horticrafting

[summer jackal]

The Bloodnotch Unique Jewel now has 20-30% of Damage taken from Stunning Hits is Recovered as Life (previously 40-60%). Existing items can be made worse with a Divine Orb. 😭 whyyyyyyyyyyy

😢

[abstract halo]

this is sick tho

[vast meadow]

DAMNIT Mark, you did it again

login

[wind bay]

still no console -> pc trading so skip for me. have fun gents

[honest lodge]

Playing poe on console is like competing in the special olympics.

[daring crypt]

^the items gained from "The Lion" div cards are affected by item tiers right ? or is it all a 1/5

[devout osprey]

tier, they have weightings

[royal mica]

Hey are levels gonna reset witht his mirage thing in a week or so

[high fossil]

Existing characters get moved to Standard league. If you want to play in Mirage, you make a new character and start over like everyone else.

[royal mica]

Cool just double checking

Gonna just wait for the new league and stop playing for now then

thanks ❤️

[high fossil]

As is tradition

Hell, most people did that 2 months ago 😄

[royal mica]

stopped 2 months ago to wait for Mirage?

[devout osprey]

tryhards usually "complete" the league first month yes

[high fossil]

Basically, yeah. Leagues come out on a regular schedule, so why not burn yourself out and then take a break?

[royal mica]

ahh true

[paper crow]

Yeah, a large chunk of the playerbase stops playing by the end of the first month. The game isn't designed to keep you attached to it 24/7/364

Once you achieve a goal unless you have a new one to chase, most people here just stop playing

[royal mica]

Yeah I'm just now revisiting it since launch to try out the new druid and stuff

didn't realize I was so deep into the league

[devout osprey]

there is no druid in poe 1

[royal mica]

I mean poe 2

[rich karma]

Can GGG accidentally put the Mirage league live

[high fossil]

Well now they're alternating poe1 and poe2 leagues, every 2 months

[grand fossil]

this is poe1 channel :]

[royal mica]

oh I'm a moron

holy shit they develop both games at thes ame time still and do the same leagues? lol

[honest lodge]

There is no mirage for poe2

[royal mica]

what a trip my bad you guys lmao

I just watched a whole video about mirage and didn't realize it was PoE 1 wtf

[paper crow]

lmao, maybe give it a shot

there's a lot of fun stuff in poe1

[high fossil]

Yeah it's kind of wild. If you like 2, try 1 and see if you like it as well. Some stuff makes less sense but the power is undeniable once you get a good build going

[honest lodge]

Thats peak head up ass'ery ngl

[grand fossil]

they alternate between 2 games with new league releases every 2 months, so each game has new league every 4 months

[high fossil]

No way, have you seen the discussions happening in general? Those guys are sniffing their own appendixes

[bitter vessel]

anything known about Reliquarian ascension nodes?

[high fossil]

Only what was shown in the stream

[narrow sedge]

PBrand looks super dead

[honest lodge]

Valid point

[vast meadow]

every league has like jawdropping things in it, i know i probably wont get to them all but damn. they never stop

like being able to control other players pets

[frosty tapir]

What we saying then, ores and kingmarch be a good way to farm? I meed something to replace my Harbys

[honest lodge]

I like the druid changes and the new warlock class

[vast meadow]

that exceptional exile looks cool

[frosty tapir]

Im an RF player so I think ores would be really fitting farm to do if its going to be strong

[devout breach]

how many waves does blight have usually? without scarabs

[north crow]

Did anyone see the nightmare map? I was skimming the announcement what are they?

[devout osprey]

they are instead of t17

[north crow]

ah must of missed that

i saw them on the atals stones

[paper crow]

they exist outside of the normal tree, meaning they don't get many of the benefits. They also are more in line with the original goal: Acting as the gate to uber bosses and not being defacto best farming strats since t17's are dead.

[mellow rapids]

Are we getting poe2 waystones in poe1? but better?

[vague hemlock]

w.r.t. the coins that give supports, what are the best lv1 supports? Wondering what to look for with the coins

Assuming the supports are in fact stuck at level 1

I imagine it's going to be stuff like lifetap and arcane surge support on utility skills

[pseudo hull]

am i wrong in thinking lioneye glare going to be like super broken for self-cast bow users?

like how is that not going to just make storm rain do a jillion dps

[agile hemlock]

You have to find flat

But yea, it's probably sort of a paradoxica for bows

[pseudo hull]

combine with warden so you get the 200% shock really fast now too with the repeated skill

[thin crane]

Do u guy think we can imbued gem to lv 21 ?

[hollow topaz]

wait so if keepers is core does that mean those little tentacle shoulder things are permanent now?

[odd gate]

no

[odd gate]

grafts are removed

[vague hemlock]

Didn't look like it in the video, and you could turn them off anyway

[hollow topaz]

bad update

jk watching reveal still

[sweet cedar]

does someone know if the new broken belt can roll any shrine buff ? it looks like it because they changed resonating shrine

[brazen plinth]

I am curious to know if the Atlas hideout will be updated with this new map layout

[paper crow]

power charge on crit is probably one of the best options for most skills across the board. simply a free source of crit and power charge sustain.

[vague hemlock]

Leech ones are probably relevant. Fortify is a good one. Rage seems relevant. Culling strike seems nice.

Behead just looks fun

[hollow osprey]

Wait, do they STUCK at level 1 OR they can level up?

[hollow topaz]

it corrupts it but no +1 corrupt

[hollow osprey]

Some Support Gems are only good on higher levels, if they stuck on level 1 permanently I'd rather have them be ultilities

[hollow topaz]

you can level corrupted gems its fine, just make sure the quality is good before you use it

[hollow osprey]

I'm not talking about the gems

I'm talking about the support part

[hollow topaz]

I wonder if you can use it on exceptional gems like enlighten or empower

[high fossil]

Stuck on level 1

[high fossil]

No, because you can only use them on a lvl 20 gem

No such thing as a level 20 enlighten (yet)

[past depot]

enlighten support goes up to level 4 quality 20%

the dif between level 3 and 4 is night and day which sucks

[hollow topaz]

i dont like that its forced to be lvl 20

[brave marsh]

It's to make it a sidegrade to Vaal skills or 21/23

[echo robin]

Anyone know where you get harvest beasts now? Couldn't find anything in patch notes, maybe something was said on stream that I didn't catch

[brave marsh]

so those are not immediately obsolete

[hollow osprey]

Well thats dead on arrival

[hollow topaz]

nah coin apparently does require lvl 20

[hollow osprey]

Enjoy skills having 20% less damage

[quaint ember]

it's literally a free support gem

how can that be detrimental in any way

lmao

[high fossil]

You're not comparing it to a level 20 support, you're comparing it to +1 level and/or 3% quality. Which don't do much on some skills

[hollow topaz]

mana cost is def something to be aware of with a 7l though

[brazen plinth]

for sure

[hollow topaz]

Does this mean squire can do an 8 link?

[hollow osprey]

To be fair most builds nowadays take the reduced mana cost clusters

[quaint ember]

pretty much

[echo robin]

If you hit like endurance charge on melee stun that's free 7L

[brave marsh]

a lot of supports are like 90-99% power at level 1

[hollow osprey]

If you hit stuffs like Trinity Support

Yeah

[brave marsh]

we saw it give cruelty support

[hollow topaz]

guys this is big

[hollow osprey]

Honestly I'm interested in the new belt base more

[hollow topaz]

we can go cat build + hextoad build

[hollow osprey]

Annoint is HUGE

Definitely a viable alternative to non-MB users or non-HH users

[short blade]

Okay, late to the party. The reveal stream said "t17 maps have effectively been removed" but reading the patch notes, it just seems like they've been renamed? How else were they changed?

[vague hemlock]

The coins give any valid support at lv1 of their corresponding colour

[hollow topaz]

dune maps have also been removed

[vague hemlock]

They are very cool. I look forward to being unable to afford any useful ones

[hollow osprey]

It drops from Mirage maps so chances are its not gonna be too expensive

[brave marsh]

depends entirely on rarity

[hollow osprey]

Even if they are rare, you can still anoint corrupted stuffs so who cares

[brave marsh]

and if there's weights to support choices

I reckon added cold/lightning gonna have very high probability

[high fossil]

Different mod pool, and they're excluded from a lot of the map-juicing methods that will affect maps on the main part of the atlas

[hollow topaz]

scion new ascendancy looks most interesting

[high fossil]

So they will not be the optimum way to farm currency etc, but still give access to uber fragments

[short blade]

ah, thanks

[vague hemlock]

I like the "living ascendancy" concept, but it's going to suck in Standard

[hollow topaz]

I mean standard is basically permadeath in my eyes

none of my builds work in it after like 2-3 patches anyway

[queen current]

Guess I'll be reinstalling

[maiden belfry]

Harbinger Removed as a Core League bro WHAT

Guardian looking kind of crazy yo

[vague hemlock]

I mean, after the Atlas changes, the main thing it gives you is carpal tunnel, so it makes sense

[hollow osprey]

Pls be changeable with Div Orbs

[severe plume]

LOGIN

[odd gate]

doubt it

[thin crane]

oh wait, last league Viper strike of mamba use both weapon on atk ?

[hollow osprey]

Why not?

To be fair even with this form having 150% increased crit + res is insane

WAIT LMAO

DIAMOND SHRINE IS PERMA CRIT

[prime tree]

If dual wielding, deals the damage of both weapons in one strike.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Viper_Strike_of_the_Mamba

[hollow osprey]

Perma crit + 50% to all res if you don't touch your flasks

Thats not a bad deal god damn

Even better if you pick Nameless Ascendancy and choose no Ultility flasks to get an extra ring

This shit is powercreep as fuck

[thin crane]

also +10% max res

[quaint ember]

this league is gonna be fire

[dire oyster]

so are existing awakened gems going to be converted to something else or it will stay as is?

[high fossil]

Patch notes just says "can no longer be obtained" which should mean existing ones stay, and just go to standard as legacy items

[ancient furnace]

Hey folks, I was looking for some guides on necro aurabots, have any of you ran upon any PoBs or guides for it?

[iron flicker]

omg u right

that' be nuts

[hollow osprey]

This belt is nuts

The downside is that

You gonna loose out sources of ailment mitigation

No chill/frozen immune

[devout osprey]

well, the elemental ones? use purity of elements

[mint vigil]

mageblood is still better, just use diamond flask and ele res flask(i dont remember name)

[hollow osprey]

Okay I guess you CAN'T roll the shrines

Because imagine getting the immortal shrine

Like I can see them being changeable with a couple of exceptions

[mint vigil]

ggg won't let that happen, there used to be immortality tech in merc league, got nerfed the moment a cc made it visible

[pearl iris]

Clarified some descriptions on Cluster Jewel Notables such as Purposeful Harbinger and Follow-Through to make it clearer that the caps are global. This is purely a descriptive change.
- https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913392
But Follow-Through does not make any mention of a cap, unlike Purposeful Harbinger. Did GGG accidentally name the wrong notable? 🤔

[hollow osprey]

Mageblood gives more stats based on the flasks, this one is just straight up more damage

And has synergies with the Nameless Ascendency

[mint vigil]

hmm thats true

[quaint ember]

I want to run 3 unique flasks

Mageblood is not optimal in this build

[hollow osprey]

Also remember, no flasks mean life and mana flasks

So you really REALLY have to reconsider your strategy

[vague hemlock]

Instant flasks exist

Did see some wondering about whether it works with immunities granted by flasks, though

Idk how they work with other "during flask effect" stuff

[narrow sedge]

what is the opinion of using base penance brand after the approximatelly 25% More buff to it relative to the PBoD deathknell

[north inlet]

Hi

What’s the league about

I missed the twitch thing

[devout osprey]

https://www.twitch.tv/pathofexile/videos click latest video. u can skip forward as u want

[north inlet]

Oh

[sonic stirrup]

I was gonna link patch notes

but that also works

[north inlet]

U can link those too

[sonic stirrup]

sigh

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3913392#themiragechallengeleague

[north inlet]

Alr thanks

[cunning blade]

whats hot in 3.28?

[sonic stirrup]

lol, was looking at nerfs

cast on portal is shot

cws will no longer enjoy block in ulti while running any ulti modifiers blindly

int stackers in shambles

[high fossil]

I don't care if it's good, i'm excited to experiment with the Reliquarian

[sonic stirrup]

eb got shanked

why is harbs gone tho

[devout osprey]

its explained in patch notes, in harby speak

[high fossil]

Cos people farmed them too hard but the content was kind of old and sucky

[sonic stirrup]

true

[prime tree]

i've only played it once a while ago and the delay until it detonates, even with solid cast speed, just felt kinda meh. So, numbers might be there, but mechanics might be lacking. take this opinion with a whole shaker of salt tho

[sonic stirrup]

yo, storm burst buffed to be less shit for clear? nice

it's one cast ahead

lol, mamba can no longer be cheesed with the extra poison unique

wait, ele golems nerfed again? sad

[cunning blade]

all i see is astral projector and maybe terminus est ngl

terminus est might remove the need for farruls entirely which is massive

[narrow sedge]

I had good cast speed, PBoD was crazy overpowered. You cast it 2-3 times and then just run around on bosses. It did blight basically on its own exct.

[cunning blade]

the other stuff looks kinda limp

[high fossil]

If the Cadigan's mace node gives battlemage then that's me set for the league

[narrow sedge]

Main problem with the skill is the clear caused me psychological damage before I had enough AOE for explody

[cunning blade]

hmmmm even over inquis which already gives it for 2 points?

[quaint ember]

Foulborn uniques still exist right?

[devout osprey]

ye

[cunning blade]

some like fowlborn embalmers are gone

because fuck mamba

you WILL play binos or pf

[prime tree]

i enjoyed both times i played PBoD. But regular PB has the delay before it deals damage and that just felt bad to me back when i tried it.

[quaint ember]

I want Foulborn Death's Oath

that one should be easy to get

[cunning blade]

wat did that one do

[high fossil]

Yeah, i find inquis kind of limiting. Looking for new stupid interactions

[quaint ember]

increased wither effect

[sonic stirrup]

Relative rarities of several currencies have been adjusted. Most notably, Exalted and Regal Orbs will now be comparatively more common.
Wait, ex and div are no longer equal?

[quaint ember]

never have been

[sonic stirrup]

though with harbs gone ex would appear less often anyways

[cunning blade]

btw with petrification and the action speed debuffs from t17 mods gone

[sonic stirrup]

they always have been

[cunning blade]

min action speed is no longer as big of a deal right

?

given ur curse and chill/freeze immune

[cunning blade]

they were always 50 50 until now

[cunning blade]

thank fuck i guess

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[cunning blade]

[narrow sedge]

im so confused, it says PBrand activates every .1 seconds while PBoD activates every second.

[cunning blade]

i wont feel bad whenever an exalt drops now

[sonic stirrup]

min action speed also mitigates temp chains

[cunning blade]

knowing i lost a div

[sonic stirrup]

xd

[cunning blade]

^^

curse immune is a ton easier to get than

min action speed

[sonic stirrup]

no longer reduced reflected damage taken

[cunning blade]

i can forgo auls entirely at this point if there isnt any other bullshit slows left

[sonic stirrup]

it's now portion of damage can't be reflected

no more noob trap from eating shock

or wearing abyssus

sad

[cunning blade]

only ones i can think off are grasping vines (?) and the delirium one

[cunning blade]

hot

[sonic stirrup]

primordial bond halved

golem stackers in shambles

[cunning blade]

elementalists no longer doing x10 the dmg everyone else is day 1 on naked gear

[sonic stirrup]

it is good for qol

[cunning blade]

[sonic stirrup]

also low tolerance nerf

so mamba is gone from meta probs

with no longer being able to cheese extra poison and nerf to low tol

[cunning blade]

still probably strong af but

the bigger issue is the attack speed nerf

its gonna be clunky af for poison

[pulsar birch]

were there any pictures of the league armor set posted anywhere?

[sonic stirrup]

Removed all crafts that Enchant Flasks from the Horticrafting Bench. Existing items with these Enchantments are unaffected.
huh

[sonic stirrup]

maybe. or you can check the video showcase

[quaint ember]

yeah idk why they would do that tbh

[sonic stirrup]

All Essences now have a maximum stack size of 10 (previously 9).
peace

[high fossil]

They usually do it as a teaser in the week before launch

[sonic stirrup]

Reduced the damage dealt by Rusty Crusher's shock rifle ability by ~50%.

is it bad that I have no idea what this is

[devout osprey]

thats a heist POS

[quaint ember]

yeah

[sonic stirrup]

The Aiding an Archivist quest no longer shows on the Quest Tracker when not in Act 10.
I am at peace

Fixed a bug where have multiple Evolving Shrine buffs ignored the reduced chance for monsters to upgrade rarity every time a monster upgrades rarity.
grammar moment

[mint vigil]

new immortality strat(only inside mirage area, terms and conditions apply): select the you can't die wish, if not in the list, portal out and do next map until you are immortal. gg ez.

[sonic stirrup]

Fixed a bug where the "10% of Leech is Instant per Equipped Claw" Claw Passive Skill Mastery did not specify that this only applied to Life Leech. This is not a functional change, purely a correction of a description error.
Huh

Fixed a bug where Trarthan Gems could sometimes drop from Expedition Gem Chests instead of only dropping from Heist Gem Chests.
I did think this was weird

[odd gate]

yeah yohsene brought it up in general yesterday
we were all surprised too

[subtle drum]

yeah it was bought up when we were discussing the new essentia

[sonic stirrup]

only read through patch notes now

[quaint ember]

same 3.27 guides

[zinc oxide]

General cry with static strike will be cool

[strange leaf]

Am I too late for the twitch drops? If not who is still on I can watch?

[normal zinc]

anybody know what armor mtx this is

[pseudo hull]

calling it now -- storm rain warden with new lioneye glare gonna be just so strong with so little investment

[granite terrace]

Are there still twitch drops now? Missed the livestream

[zinc oxide]

They are after the livestream, search for any POE streamer

[merry anchor]

you have a full day i believe

[sonic stirrup]

Just check twitch

Active drops

[trim grail]

that new antiquarian scion ascendancy looks cool

I wonder if it'll be good

feel like scion is never meta since its too generalized

[merry anchor]

well scion is home to armor stacker. strongest shit on the planet

[hollow osprey]

If nothing changes I'm just gonna go Holy Strike Guardian

Copying whatever the fuck DomBlow Guardian players did

Holy Strike seems to be more on the active side though because you need to actually hit an enemy to let your weapons hit said enemy

[pseudo hull]

seems like holy flame totem gonna be poggers can just use it all through acts and relax

[floral tundra]

you guys gonna fix the ele hit interaction with breach ascendancy before league drops right

[floral tundra]

dom blow of inspiring looks good ngl. i did a shitty pob and it kinda owns

[hollow osprey]

Yeah I hope Holy Strike is just "Dom Blow but better for people who hates minions but still want to stack minion"

[trim grail]

so I'm still new to this game, this is like my.. 5th season? I've played PBoD, zoomancer, slamzerker, RF chieftan, LS Slayer. any big "meta" or "hallmark" builds I'm missing that I should try out?

[floral tundra]

ele hit, holy relic of conviction

[slow magnet]

Oh shit I missed the stream, is it still possible to get the twitch drop 🙁

[high fossil]

Something with bows for sure

[trim grail]

my POE2 build this league was poison arrow amazon! XD

[merry anchor]

you have 24 hours from the livestream to watch 45 min of any streamer with the drop enabled

[heady cove]

I'm on my 5th league aswell. And I'm trying to play one of each archetype rather than just meta builds. So far I've done Mana Stacking, Bow mapper, Mines, Armor stacker, RF, Minions, Cast on Crit E-Blade.

Next on my list is Wander, Dex Stacker, Strength Stacker, Ignite build & Poison build. Hope this gives some ideas

[trim grail]

that's what I mean, archetypes, not necesarily meta builds. I just want to try something different every time

[heady cove]

Yeah, glad to see someone else is going down the same path as me haha

[high fossil]

Wanders should still be in a good spot this league, Kinetic Fusillade is a fun and powerful skill

[heady cove]

I figured if I do it all once and understand each archetype's damage/defense scaling. I can have a good grasp on the league

[trim grail]

I'm still not brave enough to make up my own build though lol. I find a leaguestarter in the archetype that I'm interested in

[heady cove]

Yeah wanders look to be in a pretty good place, though ngl Fusillade totems look nuts

[elfin sierra]

if in doubt, flicker

[heady cove]

^^^ True, I've been wanting to flicker for a while

If theres a good looking Scav build using Termanist est to enable flicker with good damage I might try it

Oh sorry.... relequarian

[zealous nova]

This coin system means you can't get a vaal skill and a coin-added support, right?

[merry anchor]

yet to be seen

[high fossil]

Pretty sure it does mean that, since the coin corrupts the gem

And it makes sense that it'd be a trade-off to decide on, instead of just pure power creep for every build

[odd gate]

that's my understanding yeah

[zealous nova]

Vaal double strike bros, it's over

[cedar mortar]

I miss keeper alreasy

[merry anchor]

glad its over. cant block that fast enough

[brittle bobcat]

Sounds like the league was a keeper.

[merry anchor]

knee slapper lol im just sick of walls for a while

[queen flame]

Whats crystalized rancour for? It says its used on horticrafting Station?

[paper crow]

it's for most likely new crafts. Since rancour is from the mirage'd harvests

[queen flame]

But we havent seen any recipes yet?

[paper crow]

nope

[queen flame]

Maybe we get reforge keep back

[rugged condor]

Regarding the item that adds +1 level support to gems. If I use it with a skill, does it choose from the gems that support it, or is it random?

[spare mesa]

do ilvl 84 mods for deli farming exist still?

[mild ingot]

what is the new belt unique thats gonna replace MB? where was it revealed

[marsh wagon]

Ele golem nerf looks bad. Any stable league starter for witch?

[odd gate]

i'm probs starting smokie's gcf mines elem in ssf
all the necro minion builds are still insane like helmbreaker's praw or hroc

[frank adder]

Mines look very good tbh

im going exsang/reap trickster as planned but might change direction if i see something i find more interesting but it really covers my goal for bossing and atlas strats

Wanted Hexblast but that got gutted few leagues back

[pseudo hull]

do tinctures count as flasks?

[marsh wagon]

Nerco minion untouched ya. I do a lot of delve. Do minions do well there?

[high fossil]

no

[lunar stirrup]

How do we obtain harbinger unique now?

[high fossil]

global drops

[lunar stirrup]

i see

cuz patch note didn't mention

@high fossileven the infuse harbinger item?

i mean item to upgrade harbinger unique

[high fossil]

only the upgraded ones will drop

[steep hollow]

https://i.imgur.com/FKPZXNn.png first impressions notes of new patch BEFORE FULLY READING PATCH NOTES (!) lol

[odd gate]

yeah reasonably well

[hardy oracle]

Apparently from new boss it gives u 2 perma shrines tho we dont know if its random shrines or no. Imagine combos

[steep hollow]

i mean if its like perma acceleration and massive shrine maybe

or echoing but no way that would be insane

the problem with any idea to 'replace' mageblood is no matter how OP they make a belt, nothing else is going to make you never have to press any flask keys

[odd gate]

someone in ziz's chat said it's one offensive, one defensive shrine

but no real source backing that claim up

[high fossil]

this one will, cos you can't use flasks if you want the shrines

[steep hollow]

oh lol

ok but then u are still kinda in deep shit cuz u arent getting ailment immunity/cb/curse etc from suffixes

that takes a lot of investment to solve elsewhere

But i could see a giga high roll like acceleration + massive or echoiing + massive be good

a lot of the defensive shrines arent that good tho, no?

i guess the one that increases defences could be nice for like armor stacker or something

[pale imp]

im still new to the game does anyone know if kb will be good next league as a league start

im trying to find smthg to league start and practice is in ssf

[steep hollow]

still reading patch notes so idk for sure but if regular kb is unnerfed it will be good, kb of clustering is probably ded tho assuming they did a classic ggg double tap on it

everyone has been playing kboc for a while now but regular kb has been good the whole time just not as good

[odd gate]

wand skills basically untouched

[pale imp]

ah alr what abt penance brand or forbbiden right

[odd gate]

int stacking killed but you weren't doing that in ssf anyways

[steep hollow]

oh yeah i mean if kboc is untouched then its still great

werent ppl playing elementalist on that build tho?

golem ascendancy node got hit hard

[odd gate]

pb is playable, pbod is pretty rough now (probs just a bossing skill)

fr is untouched i think

[steep hollow]

i saw someone saying regular pb is sounding pretty nice for ignite starter

[odd gate]

if you wanna start wands id probably do kfussilade

[pale imp]

what?

whats that?

[steep hollow]

Kinetic Fusillade

another wand skill

its really strong early and kinda whatever late game but thats a great deal in ssf

def great campaign skill

[pale imp]

im not playing the new league in ssf

[steep hollow]

u can pretty much play and practice whatever you want then, as a new player adhering to the meta is not very important, you arent competing with experienced players either way, and most skills are fairly viable with trade

[marsh wagon]

Pohx saying hinekora will be fine

Wonder if it'll be eo

[pale imp]

ah ok

[marsh wagon]

Single target really needed that ignite

[pale imp]

ill go lightning arrow

[steep hollow]

LA is always strong

simple game plan, scales great with cheap gear, scales great with gg gear

[pale imp]

bet thats what ill do then

[steep hollow]

just have a plan for taking damage, bow builds are ez to scale dmg but hard to scale defense

a lot of them die a lot in yellow maps cause they didnt plan well for defense

unless ur dmg is poggers and u arent getting hit

[bright sable]

Mirage DN

[steep hollow]

Have they said anything about fracturing orbs?

[ashen prawn]

so will foulborns still exist?

[steep hollow]

yes, and there are new foulborns

they said they will keep adding new ones and they might even appear on the new scion ascendancy in the future

[ashen prawn]

oh ok

[sonic field]

and there were some changes to existing ones

like no spread on embalmers

[ashen prawn]

i was quite interested in foulgrasp support as well for arcanist brand recaller

what build works best for an auto brand recaller? i was initally thinking voltaxic burst

[steep hollow]

im gonna recall ur mom

[sonic field]

armageddon brand is the usual iirc

also blade blast i think

the vortex one

[hollow osprey]

Hallowing Flame is a very PoE 2 mechanic

"Create but can't consume" type of deal

[versed dock]

I just saw Graven's Secret shown in the video gives +100 to intelligence but it's not in the patch notes?

[high fossil]

It may still be under discussion, getting finalised

Or maybe just an oversight/mistake

[halcyon tusk]

does anyone know if fracturing orbs are added to sanctum since they are in core drop table now ?

[vapid topaz]

is getting the filter from filterblade now, gonna also keep updating after the new league comes?

[autumn stirrup]

Do you guys think chaos will slowly be replaced as main currency with exalted?

[dusty cove]

no

anyone feeling like doing voltaxic 🤔

[fast kettle]

Main currency is divines

[autumn stirrup]

For endgame definitely.

Atleast they are buffing exalted orb drops and hopefully so that they will be almost as frequent as chaos.

[proper pendant]

I tried to watch some of these streamers react to the new league to see what they have to say , and beside Fubgun and Ziz , none of them are talking at all the entire time...

[autumn stirrup]

A lot of them have posted reaction / thoughts videos on youtube after the stream.

[snow marten]

Interesting. destructive play is sounding allot less appealing in mirage

[thorny fiber]

yo, about the new mapping in mirage:
do we know if we have to unlock all the map location paths once after campaign? or if its free to choose as long as you have a fitting tier map item?

would dislike the "unlock the paths first" way

[ionic siren]

Voltaxic is very interesting but its hard to find a way to boost chaos res of enemies consistently to really take advantage of it

Mostly since there is no chaos res aura

Feels like there is still a piece missing somewhere for it to rly work great

But definitely way more interesting than before

[sharp lake]

Hey this will be my First League I Play POE 1. Can someone tell me with the new patch notes what I can play. Not to tricky.

[cunning blade]

wat do people leaguestart with for spell dot these days

especially on shadow

is ED C my only option :despairge

[muted dirge]

Yo boys anyone who actually knows what they doing unlike me can tell me how cooked es/int stacking is I wanna play CI KB but I need to know if it's playable or not and when to swap to es

[neat summit]

Edc or exanguinate/reap

Or RF

[cunning blade]

shadow? RF?

[hot quail]

Spell dot.. Exsanguinate trickster?

[sterile shuttle]

Isn't energy blade just dead

[wooden spoke]

ok can someoone explain the new league mech i dont understand sht and they changed so much

[supple crag]

Pick something to farm and the league mech lets you do the farm twice in map, but second time with some added modifications

[bright arch]

its sanctum and lake of kalandra combined

[wooden spoke]

so for example if im farming strongboxes and theres 32 , now its 64?

[wooden spoke]

fuk

[bright arch]

but they are both in the map

so good

[wooden spoke]

i hate sanctum

[ashen storm]

Whats a goated big boom juiced expedition farmer

[eternal trail]

Anything chain explode

[ashen storm]

I saw ppl talk about blight of contagion is that good for it

[eternal trail]

Prob, could also be rf, or Herald, or ignite/poison prolif

[rotund tide]

whose planning to go reliquarian? what you thinking on building?

[stoic ravine]

Was there any info about what will happen to the beachhead divination card drop? Was it moved somewhere or just deleted like the rest of the harbistuff?

[tidal egret]

deleted, as are the blue men

[prime tree]

do you mean the voidforge card?

no mention of it in the patch notes

[hollow osprey]

So its confirmed Screams of the Dessicated can have the shrines being rolled

One defensive shrine + one offensive shrine

[vocal elk]

How important is it to get action speed immunity?

[dusty cove]

not really

worth getting aliment immunity

[vocal elk]

so is trickster and jugg worthless now?

[sonic field]

no

the modifiers are still very good and also the ascendacies dont just revolve around these

[vocal elk]

What are sources of action speed slows in endgame besides chill/freeze that can potentially kill you?

[sonic field]

well the 2 bigger sources were taken away from t17 mods so now its just prob some other misc effects that can appear sometimes

i dont remember exactly what stuff is action speed vs just a movement/attack/cast speed decrease

because these nodes dont affect the latter

[dusty cove]

temp chains map mod

[sonic field]

ah yeah this

[naive sierra]

At least curse immunity protects you from that

[sonic field]

and ailment immunity takes care of freeze/chill

[naive sierra]

We have options now for dealing with action speed that isn't just rolling to jugg or trick

[dusty cove]

think also uh scorpion desert boss gives it but thats it of the top of my head

[naive sierra]

Super healthy for the game imo

[sonic field]

the sand stuff yeah

breach monsters inflict it too

[bright arch]

i hate sand

its coarse and sticky and gets everywhere

[vague hemlock]

Think the sand stuff might be in mirage zones, actually
so there's another use case for it, at least this league

[primal coral]

They killed harbies

I will never forgive GGG

[hollow osprey]

Ngl even with the removal of the duration, you still end up needing to recast Sentinel of Radiance pretty often

Because ITS FUCKING SLOW

I saw some videos on how it performs and oh god this thing moves slower than the slowest mob in PoE2

[inner pulsar]

So lemme see if I have this right:

Mirage-Essence has a known unique Essence type
Mirage-Blight has a unique lane type and a special annoint belt base
Mirage-Settlers has Thaum Dust Deposits
Mirage-Harvest has a unique Lifeforce
Mirage-Ultimatum has new challenge mods and the prefix/suffix Catalysts
Mirage-Delirum has a currency that rerolls Cluster Enchantments without affecting explicit mods.
Mirage-Strongbox has special Strongbox base types.

So that leaves Abyss, Delve, Bestiary(?), Incursion, Heist, Legion, Breach, Betrayal, Expedition, and possibly Maven-witnessed bosses? Any others I'm missing we don't know about yet?

[sonic stirrup]

If you're gonna count maven why not exarch and eater

[inner pulsar]

Cause maven always shows up at the same place (map boss) but exarch and eater are more... "random" in their spawns. Same reason why Bestiary has a question mark.

In a similar manner, I don't expect much from a Mirage Intervention encounter, it's mostly Fortification/Transportation/Research

It's also why I didn't include Anarchy or Torment

I wouldn't have included Harbinger either but rip bozo

[hollow osprey]

Mirage Ritual is just gonna be a new item base isn't it

[inner pulsar]

Fuck I forgot Mirage ritual you're right. But it's either new base types or new omens

[hollow osprey]

As a Ritual gambler I hope it has something worthwhile to do the same Ritual... Wait a minute

HOW WOULD REDOING THE RITUAL AGAIN WORK

[vague hemlock]

It's 36% faster now

[hollow osprey]

Like if you defer the item in this realm then would it reset in the Mirage realm?

[hollow osprey]

36% more faster. According to patch notes
But I need to see it

[sonic stirrup]

Anarchy and torment are on a specific spot though

I would expect them to also count

[hollow osprey]

Why do I feel like Ritual and Expedition is gonna be left out

[sonic stirrup]

You have a point with eldritch altars and being assassinated randomly though

[hollow osprey]

Because its gonna hard to code how they work

[inner pulsar]

It's actually just one ritual encounter, with a seperate tribute shop, all monsters replaced by high-tribute Mirage monsters.

Hope you brought an empty vessel!

[hollow osprey]

Where did you get this info?

So its just one more chance to gamble if that was the case

[inner pulsar]

From the same place any good statistician does: my ass

[hollow osprey]

To be fair that does sound plausible because Mirage doesn't cover the entire map

So its just one spot where the League mechanic is near

[sonic stirrup]

Several league mechanics

No?

Or did you mean specifically talking about ritual

Oh well

[inner pulsar]

Didn't they talk about how there were going to be some "covered" Maps where the Mirage does in fact span the whole map? I remember hearing that in the q&a and making a joke of "ain't that just Scourge"

But yeah the base Mirage mechanic is a small area. So only one, maybe 2 ritual altars will get caught. So either it adds tribute to the existing map's shop or it has a completely seperate one.

...granted it's not like there's a whole lot of grey area not covered by one of those two options.

[ashen storm]

holy hammer expedition :o_:

[glad bloom]

Holly strike's minion damage can increase by multistrike support?

How about ancestral call? Summoned ancestors have minions?

[hot quail]

Whats the source on mirage harvest, and do we know what its used for?

[violet peak]

Are merchant tabs required to be able to sell via async?

[queen current]

Super excited for the new league, haven't played since sentinel

All it took was a new ascendancy for my beloved scion

[violet peak]

scion been needing a rework. this one is kinda cool

[inner pulsar]

https://www.pathofexile.com/mirage

"Empowered Leagues and Rewards" has Crystalized Rancour, stack size 10, tooltip mentions the Horticrafting bench

Beyond that, we dunno.

[sterile atlas]

Multistrike would work for minions if they allow it to support holy strike. Don't see why not.

Ancestral call ancestors are just clientside visual effects. That's just you hitting. Should create minions on you.

Actual mirages like saviour / gen's cry... probably create minions for you rather than themselves? Compare totems using minion spells.

[queen current]

I love scion how it is honestly. It's what I go for when I want to play something off meta that's hard to do on other classes. Having a new ascendancy makes her even more versatile

Even the ascendant is quite strong, but simply not a lot of people play it

Attribute stacking on ascendant will probably not be a thing this league though because astramentis on reliquarian lol

[flint rampart]

guys is the pob tree out ?

[prime tree]

https://github.com/grindinggear/skilltree-export (no)

[flint rampart]

about how long before league start does the pob update ?

[quaint ember]

2 or 3 days

[sterile atlas]

It's usually after league start, not before. PoB needs info from the game files.

There may be a partial (dev branch) update before that, depending on what the contributors feel like implementing manually

[violet peak]

Is deaths oath actually good? Ive always wanted to do it but i heard it never gets enough dps for resonable price

[quaint ember]

it's good

they added new uniques that help with damage on 3.27

[violet peak]

ooh interesting. i skipped last league

got a video or written guide or something?

or pob

[quaint ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1rpUtNtHb4

this should be enuff

[violet peak]

why is this guys life orb purple

[sterile atlas]

Mtx.

Challenge reward from back in affliction I think

[violet peak]

ah ty

this deaths oath build looks fun

[bright sable]

Jebait

[hot quail]

We dont know if horned scarab of awakening effects are available anymore, right?

[bright sable]

Nope

[hot quail]

Do we know the effect of miraged expedition +

[queen current]

never been this excited to spam canyon over and over

death's oath has always intrigued me, but the cost of the build was sky high when i looked into it

[quaint ember]

it's nice when you're bored of rf

[lament forum]

Any frostmage pobs?

[summer jackal]

guis how to gett rid of this yellow line when a window open in 11 pro ?

[quaint ember]

idk i'm still using windows 7

[summer jackal]

makes me give u a hug

[gleaming zodiac]

Wonder what would be good with frostmage since it cannot support so many skills

[quaint ember]

freezing pulse would be a good one

winter orb

winter orb is actually crazy fast to clear the campaign

[gleaming zodiac]

It cannot support orb skills

[quaint ember]

oof

[reef igloo]

for the new gaurdian asendency for the shrines is it not still the basic randoms just upgraded to greater version of them im a ittle lost?

[lament forum]

It's probably good on eye of winter or spark or ice nova or ball lightning

The usual suspects

Maybe even ice spear

But is it good at all to begin with

I'm thinking you'll have to use whispers to solve mana problems

[dense sequoia]

I was thinking about map completion for atlas, how is that going to work now? just completing the map on any tier?

[gleaming zodiac]

My guess is each map will have to be completed on a minimum specific tier to get bonus, so if a map is t2 you'll have to run any t2+ map at least magic (that's just a guess)

[dense sequoia]

that’s what I figured it was gonna be, but wanted to ask in case I missed something in the patch notes

[viral leaf]

will hallowing flame affect holy flame totems?

[sterile atlas]

Holy flame's not an attack, so nah

[prisma cliff]

guys, will shield crush be good for a noob? can I still craft shields on the tree? shields count as armour?

speaking oif holy flame totem, will it be viable for stones?

[tender geyser]

I really want to start with the holy strike skill seeing as it's a minion/attack hybrid and I think that's really fun to figure out but I'm slightly worried about clear, I wonder how do minions react when you "target" more than one enemy with the "non-vaal strike skills target additional enemy" and if the minions will attack other targets too making it more spread out, are there any skills that behave that way rn?

[tender geyser]

shield crush slayer is mega comfy to start with and yes shields count as armor

[prisma cliff]

and not a champ for extra safe?

I am a giga noob.

[tender geyser]

you get 7 endurance charges from stacking frenzies so you get a lot of phys and ele reduction, overleech and usually you pick up block nodes so it's very tanky anyway

[sterile atlas]

The character in the content reveal had extra strikes

[tender geyser]

I played it like 2 leagues ago and it was very comfy, and nothing about slayer or shield crush changed

[tender geyser]

oh right let me go there and study the behaviour

[prisma cliff]

how exactly do I get endurance charges on this build? from tree? when block? when hit?

[sterile atlas]

(I'd assume regular behaviour where minions don't have your stats and just have their own swing)

[tender geyser]

slayer has a node that gives you max endurance charges equal to your max frenzy charges, so you click frenzy charges on tree and get +1 free from that ascendancy also, then you get them on kill from one of the nodes and when hit from a shield node iirc

[prisma cliff]

thank you.

[prisma cliff]

precise or resolute teqnique?

[tender geyser]

also it's pretty easy to craft a shield even w/o tree by just grabbing a high ilvl armor shield and using dense fossils, it's cheap and usually will lead to high armor

[ember plank]

So I haven't played in about a year. Been dubbing around in SSF Standard for a few weeks. Using Soulsomething staff with Phantasms. Going great. Very lazy build and I love it. I see 3.28 is coming up in about a week. Suggestions for an autopilot minion build for SSF? SRS perhaps?

[tender geyser]

I can't rememeber honestly I think it's precise but you should look up a build, RT seems too far to commit especially early on

[prisma cliff]

and the new holy flame totem with 6 projectiles? good for stones?

or storm burst ttoem better?

[tender geyser]

I haven't playe totems in like 2 years so idk

[prime tree]

fossils are now delve-exclusive, so remains to be seen how fossil prices will be affected

[tender geyser]

oh right, they might be expensive now

[frank adder]

They are going to be expensive yes if not all of a sudden everyone wanna delve 😂

[fluid flume]

I'll be honest guys if patch note is 70% nerfs again I'll skip the league again...
it's been 2 leagues i'm skipping feels bad

it feels like PoE 1 is slowly being nerfed into PoE2.

[quaint ember]

git gud

i'm blazing through content

[prime tree]

i mean it kinda is a lot of nerfs to popular stuff

[frank adder]

Yeah they want to stir things up, stuff that is meta and done every league should be looked at and changed to see reactions and bring new stuff to the table

It’s healthy

[frank adder]

Same 💪

[gray compass]

New gems / corrupts should give overall buffs to things though at least

[quaint ember]

yay more gambling

[dawn heart]

what are you guys league starting with

i was thinking cyclone slayer or rfc

[vague venture]

Cold DoT occultist/elementalist with frostmage support, whispers, CI, and fully reserved mana might be good.

[frank adder]

Exsang reap mine trickster crit cold conversion

[brittle niche]

Hi Guys, I'm just wondering what a new leauge means? Will I no longer have my character and stuff? I'm also curious what changes gameplay wise

[merry anchor]

changes were in the live stream and patch notes that followed. your character will be transferred to standard along with its gear and currency. if you want to play the new league you will starting a brand new character with a fresh new league economy

just going to have to be a tad diligent and read (i know it sucks) but honestly alot of changes

[hasty perch]

antiquarian pyroclast mines i think

[queen current]

Prob caustic arrow

Then spec into something cooler later

[brittle niche]

Ah I understand. Thanks ill go read the patch notes. I most likely won't know what 99% of the things are lol

[barren crescent]

is this" last patch's antiquarian still viable"

[hasty perch]

mayhaps

[hasty perch]

might be suboptimal

[barren crescent]

There'll be compilation vids about biggest winners and losers etc. etc., There was only few build killing changes in notes

[prime tree]

frostmage gives you added flat cold, not sure that will be very useful for cold dot, no?

[vague venture]

It should work with something like creeping frost

On the initial hit anyway

But if not then crit is good too

[quaint ember]

DO or Inquisitor RF

I'm not sure yet

[vague hemlock]

Static strike
Would have done it with or without buffs

[twin hornet]

Impale wand champion, if I can pob something for it later

[mystic hound]

The new static strike? Or old one?

[thorny fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-to-go-now-i-have-to-go-now-my-planet-needs-me-poochie-poochie-died-on-the-way-back-to-his-home-planet-the-itchy-and-scratchy-and-poochie-show-gif-20635516

^harbinger

[vague hemlock]

Old one. New one looks cool, but static strike is nice because you can get damage while moving

Also it means you get to ignore the downsides of e.g. pulverise support

[prisma cliff]

guys, the new holy flame totem good for ssf or shoestring budget to get stones?

[mystic hound]

Fair enough, I want to try it this league, any suggestions on what to look at for league starting?

[vapid topaz]

will the new ascendancy have bloodlines?

[sterile atlas]

Not much of an upside either considering the beams aren't area damage, unless you want it for shockwave

[prime tree]

not sure what you mean. you can pick a bloodline ascendency like with all other ascendencies and spend ascendency points in the bloodline ascendency instead of your regular one.

[vague hemlock]

I'm new and also bad at the game, but I'll see what I can come up with

1. Works nice with shockwave (this is what I'm doing. Have to use a mace, but it's a lot of extra damage and clear
2. Attack speed is mostly qol. Scale it for shield charge and to not move like a slug, but you don't need tons, and can sacrifice it for stuff like pulverise support
3. +1 strike is very very nice. Attack mastery and exarch implicit are much better sources of it than ancestral call, though, since they don't use a support slot. Imbued gem might be another good source tho
4. Since we scale less off of attack speed, we really want another source of damage, such as stacking strength or mana
5. Single target isn't great. Also reflect enemies are uniquely annoying for us
6. Scaling duration is very nice qol. There are two wheels in the centre of the tree. Take one

[vapid topaz]

ah good

[vague hemlock]

I've only really played with shockwave, yeah. Haven't tried a non-shockwave build yet

[merry anchor]

if your asking about the new scion ascendancy, its gonna be based on weapons

[vapid topaz]

weapons? how, isnt it all uniques?

[merry anchor]

sry not weapons but uniques

[warped pike]

I’m pretty sure first nodes are chest pieces, bottom is weapons, top is jewelry, and last ones are helmets

[vague hemlock]

Although there are other things that lower attack speed, like The Grey Wind

[vapid topaz]

so, idk about about the bloodline tree, is it the same for all ascenancies?

[merry anchor]

yea bloodlines are something you can obtain to replace an ascendancy node if you dont like your options

they are available for all builds

[vague hemlock]

Yes. You can have any combination of 1 ascendancy+1 bloodline

[vapid topaz]

ah i see, i thought they were different for each ascendancy, glad to know now

[prime tree]

it only got additional projectiles, right? so clear might be better, but single target should remain the same. you could look up current HFT starter builds and see how the dps is looking for early endgame

[merry anchor]

yea they are the same regardless of what your playing

[hardy oracle]

I dont think bloodlines are restricted to certain ascendancies

[bitter vessel]

are the nodes for reliquarian known or nah

[vague hemlock]

Some are, most aren't

Unless they got revealed whilst I wasn't looking

[prime tree]

official reveal on monday (nz time), some stuff was changed already since the reveal apparently

[bitter vessel]

thank you kind sir

[tender geyser]

I really hope they add the spiritual aid stuff straight into the holy strike gen, I mean it makes sense right? It's an attack that summons minions that attack with you, I'm sure they will right, and it's gonna be like 200% right, because it makes sense to do that right, they wouldn't just release a skill that needs more pathing to do decent damage right, they for sure gonna do that

I just wish we got 20/20 gems rn, can't wait for like Thursday to see if my starter is cooked or not

[hasty perch]

level 1 skill to beat hillock : needs level 30 to grab spiritual aid

[bitter vessel]

makes sense

[tender geyser]

That's why I'm hoping for spirit aid baked in, I'm fine with it scaling with levels like 60%-180% or whatever they gonna cook but please let me path into attack speed and splash before I need to pick go up the tree

[hasty perch]

to be fair tho it would be SUPER strong early with spiritual aid by default

level 3/4/5 templar gets 10% phys +10% minion and then a 15% 15%

[tender geyser]

Yesh true that's why I'm saying to make it like low% at low gem levels and then let it scale so it's not super busted

[hasty perch]

level 7 you'd be sitting at 116% inc damage already

(if we consider a 100% conversion)

if the skill is good first lab is monstruous though

[tender geyser]

It would also make sense to scale both the attack portion and the minions with gem levels like you do other minion skills

[hasty perch]

like 80% phys as extra lightning goes hard

[tender geyser]

Idk if the sentinel is not just better overall

20k rf aoe is insane on low levels and now you don't have to resummon him

[hasty perch]

could be

[tender geyser]

Pretty much can carry you trough the campaing

[hasty perch]

he has huge base damage on his swing too

[tender geyser]

He's attack is meaningless the aura is what deals damage

[hasty perch]

for clear yes

but for bosses his swing nukes

[tender geyser]

I'm more worried about the clear in campaing tbh since the strike should be good for bossing +3 attacks every time you swing is nuts even with low lvl dmg

[hasty perch]

if i remember well he was taking like 1/3 of bosses health per swing

[tender geyser]

Damn

First lab sentinel it is lol

[hasty perch]

yeah just checked

level 40 no passive node allocated to see base damage

3300 base damage swing

[tender geyser]

Yeah that's balanced

[hasty perch]

level 40 tree without equipement

its pure phys too so easy to boost while boosting your own swings

whether through hatred , flesh and stone , vuln etc

[odd gate]

sentinel can carry to yellow maps, it's kinda absurd

[hasty perch]

getting like 25K average hit level 40 with basic minion damage wand 1 mod and vuln/flesh and stone

[tender geyser]

That's also why I'm taking the gamble of starting this wierd home cooked build, if everything goes wrong I might just switch to some pure minion build in yellows

[hasty perch]

gaming

if its shit absolution is the same tree

for leveling

and absolution with 40% more damage and 44% more AoE is absolutely great for leveling

[tender geyser]

Pretty much yeah like Accuracy stuff+additional strike wheel respec

[hasty perch]

(animate guardian of smiting is probably super strong too but its a trans gem)

was looking at the change and its like 35% more damage later on

[tender geyser]

I haven't touched a minion build since like delve league so if this fails I'll shop around for something, thanks for the tips

[hasty perch]

the advantage in trade league is that there's the mace for AG

voidhome

500pdps and 1c

for early league

[muted dirge]

yo guys anyone have smth that tells u what zones u can fully skip in campaign

[hasty perch]

Fetid pool act 1

[muted dirge]

what abt the rest of the acts

like surely there is a spreadsheet or smth

[grizzled pelican]

This?

https://nicolasbagatello.github.io/poe1-campaign-helper/

[muted dirge]

ye thx

[grizzled pelican]

yw!

[vague hemlock]

A good rule of thumb for quests is that if it involves fighting a god, it's either mandatory or gives you a skill point

I'm not 100% sure if there are any exceptions to this rule, but I don't think there are any

[dawn heart]

new endgame looks kinda hype

[copper bone]

Chat which supporter pack is better

[vague hemlock]

Whichever one you like more

[safe sable]

no news today ? 🙁

[sonic field]

weekend for them rn technically

[vague hemlock]

Actually I just realised. What's going to happen to the adjacent map drop chance?

[sonic field]

prob turned to map drop chance

[vague hemlock]

That was my thought as well, but I'm surprised it isn't in the patch notes

Or at least, I can't find it

[royal dove]

Aren't the numbers on the new Divine Blast skill way too low? It deals like half of the damage that a skill like Shield Crush of the Chieftain does.

[sonic field]

it has a build it 100% more multiplier on explosion and i assume the small dot does continuous hits when it stays there too

[grim rover]

did they say when gem data is gettin gposted, yet?

[sonic field]

next week

[grim rover]

figured, was wondering if they had a specific date/day. oh well, will continue cooking at room temp until then

[steady sedge]

AAAAAAAH PERMANENT GUARDIAN OF RADIANCE!!!

[sonic field]

semi

you still recast between maps

[steady sedge]

Not a big problem imo