1┃mirage-league

[shrewd lava]

Hey wasnt the league closing already?

[devout osprey]

i just logged into merc league so not now

[shrewd lava]

like i left at 28 challenges coz did not know it was closing today

[devout osprey]

global chat is saying league ends in 30 mins

[shut smelt]

yeah, sad! i was having fun

[eternal citrus]

endednow?

[rose dragon]

It endendnowed yeah

[ember totem]

any timing on when we can migrate to std?

[pine gust]

https://tenor.com/view/anyone-bueller-gif-26439281

[ember totem]

waiting patiently for my dopamine addiction to come back online

[pine gust]

im with U

[crude panther]

Boys I haven't played POE in years. Made a HC SSF Mercenaries character the other day. Now it says league has ended, migrate to Standard (non-hc, non-ssf). Is this what happens after league ends? Or can I wait and play SSF/HC with it?

[ember totem]

any challenge league chars are moved to standard when it ends, you can still play your char there

[rose dragon]

Wait for migration to complete and you Will be moved to hc ssf standard

[crude panther]

Oooh I thought it was softcore trade. Thank God lol

[rose dragon]

Well if you click the button it May be

Since the usual before-league-end migrate button does that, best to wait to be safe

[crude panther]

❤️

[rugged mantle]

how long will it take for merc league characters to move to standard league?

hey one of my standard league character shows the league ended message and play button is locked, what do i do?

[odd gate]

usually a few hours

[brittle bobcat]

My toon just landed, it seems.

[rugged mantle]

nvm it is playable now hehe

[velvet ivy]

Rip league

[ember totem]

rip my merc

she was a good fella

rip my 6x dmg increase too

[hollow wigeon]

why did all my void stones disappear when migrating to standard

[devout osprey]

ask kirac for them i think

[jaunty bluff]

Did we get numbers on the Ward Shatter skill for the runic bloodline?

[brittle bobcat]

Historically they've been in remove-only tabs or you could talk to Zana/Kirac for them.

(tabs were mostly for sextant shenanigans, I think)

[brittle bobcat]

Ooh, sneaky channel name change.

First! etc.

[rugged mantle]

is the 3.27 atlas tree reveled?

[toxic jackal]

https://pobb.in/aW7gQrY3bYd3 this is looking cool for people who like slayer

cArn 3.27

but you wont interact with bloodlines ig

[loud rock]

another carn watcher

[toxic jackal]

i aint gonna follow that

[loud rock]

[toxic jackal]

but its actually interesting work from him

hes so good at making up things

[barren crescent]

The day slayer gets nerfed

Its gonna result in so many posts

[rugged mantle]

Will our merc league gold merge with standard?

Or are they gone forever

[winged wedge]

For me, it's Ice Shot mines

I hope Wall of Force helps with single target but aero says it slapped even without it

[little raptor]

Has there been any clarification on how HC death into League works now? Can you migrate your stash, does HCSSF go into HC or SSF, for example

[muted bluff]

Did anything change?... used to be:
HC League --> SC League
HC SSF League --> SC SSF League

Stash stays where it is.

[jaunty bluff]

If it's anything like poe2, ssf stays the same. Stash stays in HC, anything on your character goes to SC.

[sonic stirrup]

There's no real reason to assume anything has changed aside from that which has explicitly been changed

[little raptor]

Okay that makes sense (dunno why I thought HCSSF might go into HC), was more curious about if migration was a thing like it is from SSF to Trade, ty

[prime tree]

it used to be HC League --> SC Standard. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/League#Temporary_leagues
With 3.27 it will be HC League --> SC League. So people can no longer mule stuff from league to standard.

[muted bluff]

Oh wow! I really thought people ripped to SC League. Interesting, thanks!

[past spire]

What is the difference with playing zerk? Does it have more or less damage or utility or clear speed?

[sonic field]

more dmg, less recovery, prob less tanky too

[past spire]

Also no resolute technique but no gear piece with crit chance or critulti,so you are wasting accuracy on several pieces for a 5-10% base crit chance?

[sonic field]

also zerker has double exert node

[past spire]

With leech not sure less recovery but ye for the rest not sure 🙂

[sonic stirrup]

Standard is also a league

[rare sun]

Anybody got a video of the skill thunderstorm shown in the keepets twitch stream? Can't find it and that skill will convince my friend to play this game

[gritty basin]

If they showed the skill in action during the stream then it should be in the VoD... if they didn't, then I don't think a video would exist yet since nobody can play with the new skills yet

[sonic field]

hard to beat slayer in recovery

[sharp coral]

damn they buffed cyclone time to make my 27th cyclone character lets gooooooooooo

[gritty basin]

To (mis)quote the fearless leader Mark Roberts... this is a game about killing monsters in a circle.

Therefore Cyclone is the skill they WANT us to use, because circles!

[tulip relic]

hey gang, i know my brain is smooth, but why cant i find the time the new league starts friday? everything just says 10/31 PDT from what I see.

[sharp coral]

im kinda sad we didnt get a new melee skill or buffed some interesting other options maybe chains is good

[clear night]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-waiting-im-well-gif-18430344

[clear night]

theres a timer in the middle of the site

🤔 reminds me of smth

knew it

looks kinda similar to master undertaker, supp pack from incursion

[finite tundra]

Hey guys does crits buff ailments damage ? like overall damage or only physical stuff lke that ?

[prime tree]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ailment#Critical_strikes this might answer your question, maybe

[toxic jackal]

this guide got everything you need by crafting the gear, and lvling gems up
and he actually could do uber bosses 10hrs

[hallow perch]

Maybe I don’t know how to make builds, but the bloodline ascendancies don’t look that incredible to me

[thorny pond]

It’s probably the first part. They aren’t designed to be better or worst than your regular ascendancies. They are designed for choices

[subtle drum]

goodbye mercenaries

[merry anchor]

goodbye free doryani merc

[bronze mantle]

Do we know what the 'mystery' part of genesis tree is?

[muted bluff]

Wouldn't be a mystery if we did, would it? ;)

[timber crown]

Its definitly a secret passage to a secret boss fight that requires a BOAT. BOAT LEAUGE IS HERE

[foggy ocean]

Are tehy going to be releasing the gem information soon does anyone know?

[late flicker]

quick question, RF elementalist doesn't work particularly well early for stacked deck farming right?

[agile hemlock]

should feel decent, especially since RF bypasses proximity shields

outside of you just dying ofc

[plush robin]

the only reason why reddit is valid

[timber crown]

Do you guys think its a good strat to rush the 2 stones, get as many points as I can, rush harvest and basically alch and go harvest for a bit then change to harvest rotas?

[storm orbit]

It's what I mostly do for league start, alch and go harvest without scarabs and without crop rotation was still a solid 12 div/h for me last league

[timber crown]

Niiice

Idk how am I so slow that I can never reach such high ammounts of div per H

Do you just ignore the map mobs and rush straight to the harvest?

Or do you try to get as many eldritch quant mods

On an alch and go setup

[prime tree]

check how they did it previously. i think it's like 1 or 2 days before launch usually?

[foggy ocean]

yeah i know but usually they confirm when it will be released and i was wondering if they had already and id missed it

[velvet yarrow]

on high end harvest strats you never ever alch and go

oh sry you were on league start

harvest isnt that strong on league start

[timber crown]

Hmmm

[velvet yarrow]

it becomes stronger as the league progresses

[timber crown]

Its easy to run and sell harvest so id think it isnt strong but quick and sure to make money no?

[velvet yarrow]

oh for sure it makes currency

but early on you can buy 9k red or blue juice for 1 div

[timber crown]

Ewww that sucks

[velvet yarrow]

once yellow juice hits 1500-2000 for a div though...

[timber crown]

So basically only yellow juice is worth at the start. So basically get yellow juice and sell that early on and keep red and blue till its worth atleast a bit more

[velvet yarrow]

yellow juice is only slightly better at league start

once the gamblers start to get antsy is when yellow juice will sky rocket

and thats not week 1 or 2

[timber crown]

Hmm hmm hmmm

[velvet yarrow]

i plan on doing some early harvest because i need the juice for crafting purposes

[twin relic]

I know this isn't build planning/build help, but is this a channel to discuss build ideas?

[wild cosmos]

Hey peeps, are we getting anymore reveals? since they talked about adding 20 new uniques, Im gonna assume we'll discover them as we play?

[limpid basin]

they dont reveal most uniques

vast majority we have to drop ingame ourselves

[sonic field]

#1┃build-planning and #1308715058716610580

but people often share their build ideas on general as well

[wild cosmos]

Ah fair enough! so thats all from the reveals right? nothing to wait for before going to bed

[sonic field]

there's still gem info and they could possibly reveal one or two uniques, but not all

[wild cosmos]

Alrighty!

[fading cedar]

Headsman VS Wild Bear. Hard to decide without crunching numbers and testing, what do you think?

[sharp coral]

headsman since you need at least 5 rage per sec for it to feel good and we still dont know if having adrenalin prevents loosing rage

[fading cedar]

Why would prevent it? 🤔

It's not soul gain prevention like Vaal skills

[thorny pond]

You can’t gain adrenaline if you have it. So while you have adrenaline you will have max rage.

As soon as adrenaline falls off you’ll lose your rage

[fading cedar]

That I'm less sure of

It might as well be that you reach max rage and if you already have adrenaline you just go back to zero

But that's only happening if you gain 50 rage in 5 seconds, which is highly unlikely unless you have Admiral's Arrogance 🤔

[tight grail]

does anyone know how the breach mechanic will work in parties?

especially regarding loot and blood distribution?

[jaunty nymph]

So is keepers a full league or a short one? Couldn't see any mention of that

[wheat moon]

Supporter packs when?

[undone kestrel]

Not trying to be a buzzkill, BUT...

Doesn't the new skill, Wall of Force, looks exactly like pre-nerf Hydrosphere? Where it HAD to be nerfed to only taking limited hits per second because it literally one-shot everything?

Even if it lasts, I don't know, 20 hits... This could get out of hand really fast xD

[jaunty nymph]

Yes, but I don't think GGG care about balance in POE1 so much now they have POE2. POE1 will, and I can only speculate, be more about letting us have fun

Still though!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/750862122023649282/1432082417262526594/image.png?ex=6902652f&is=690113af&hm=bf9132621035470dbd08819df22863f6ba0e81245ba7b8576a506aa8f7f7edfd& I'm sure this was removed once as well

[agile hemlock]

doesn't tornado already give you a hit limited target?

[jaunty nymph]

It is just me, or is that kinda insanely strong? assuming you deal all 3 types of ele damage, in a single attack or you can convert all damage to say lightning and then to cold etc etc

[agile hemlock]

yea, you can go from tri-ele to chaos at the cost of a support gem, a ring, and both weapon slots

[sonic stirrup]

not really, because it already has a limit of hits it can take as seen in the reveal stream

[sonic stirrup]

converting half your damage is not good like ever

[jaunty nymph]

or we could scale flat fire damage onto a fire skill and then use 2x consuming dark no?

[sonic stirrup]

dual wielding the consuming dark is one way to make that node make sense yes

one of very few ways

[sonic stirrup]

I do think they very much still care about balance

the bloodlines all felt quite reasonable

[sonic stirrup]

and if you're converting from phys to lightning, and then lightning to cold, well, whoops, you just missed out on some cold scaling because some of that damage went straight to chaos instead

[jaunty nymph]

Perhaps, but we'll see. Personally, I am very interested in seeing how i can get this and volatile dead to interact

[undone kestrel]

Yeah, they were somewhat tame. As Dreamcore has pointed: "They are a replacement for your 3rd or 4th node, but not as strong to replace your core Ascendancy nodes"

[agile hemlock]

sure, that'd work

[jaunty nymph]

Well, that could get crazy strong then, cos chaos skills tend to have issues scaling flat damage as easily... interesting idea

[sonic stirrup]

no

[jaunty nymph]

No?

[sonic stirrup]

sure, you get wither

but wither isn't free

and you lose out on getting your enemies like usually about 100 below 0 res

and sure, you get to use mods to scale fire as well as mods for chaos

but that doesn't usually do all that much

and sure, ele/fire as extra chaos helps

it's not really crazy strong though

not to mention the cost of using both hand slots

for subpar raw damage

and also paying an ascendancy notable

will it make sense as a build? probably

will it be meta defining? no

if anything, I think there's a higher chance that all damage can poison on an ascendancy notable is much more likely to wreak havoc

[agile hemlock]

this would only really be valuable for poison, which sure, poison crema or smth will be decent

but chaos hit is still the weakest paradigm

[sonic stirrup]

it's pretty sad to grab it for poison though

when there's all damage can poison on an ascendancy notable elsewhere

[agile hemlock]

true

[past depot]

Any opinions on a decent league starter that i can use into the endgame and not have to worry too much? (assume i have no knowledge of poe1)

[elfin plinth]

if anyone knows, based on the buff of kinetic blast clustering, how is the damage of a Templar kinetic mana focus vs gladiator bleed lacerate?

[sonic field]

much better than glad

gear might be a bit more expensive tho

[timber crown]

Glad has better mapping survivablity tho, but then again lacerate feels shitty to play without aoe

[agile hemlock]

pohx.net documents a righteous fire build, the coziest leaguestart around due to how well-documented it is
earthshatter berzerker is probably the strongest leaguestarter in the game, you're just a guy with a big axe who slams for a ton of damage.

[elfin plinth]

much better? like a lot? sad after trying to think of something to play now im confused again XD, but for the start lets say to make my first 10-30 divines, would kinetic win over lacerate haemorage?

[agile hemlock]

isn't the usual manastacking kboc setup really expensive to make happen?

[elfin plinth]

yeah i thought gladiator because of the block but if the damage is far infirior to kinetic then i don't know

[sonic field]

pal played it a bunch and says its fine to start iirc

[agile hemlock]

nice

[sonic field]

especially with the buff

[agile hemlock]

pal played a non-ballista build, wild?

[timber crown]

You will be able to get the two stones no problem, maybe swap lacerate for eviscirate, its also good if not better. But once again. Aoe matters alot

[sonic field]

not the first time that happened (and ofc today he pobbed ballista kboc with wilmas and tigers )

[agile hemlock]

lessgo

is it better than PSoA?

[sonic field]

dunno tbh

but buffed = good right

[agile hemlock]

oh for sure

especially with whispers in the game

payoffs on top of payoffs

[sonic field]

i dont think you run whispers on kboc

[agile hemlock]

IG after buff it's not going to be that much more flat

[sonic field]

reduced mana kinda hurts and you already get flat from the skill itself

[agile hemlock]

it's like 100% more flat, tho of a different (worse) type

[sonic field]

ok if we look only at flat then whispers is a dmg buff

but thats ignoring transfiguration of mind and other mana stuff

[agile hemlock]

yeah, I haven't actually POBd it, just saw the setup and found it neat

gotta grab a juicy megalo with unholy might on crit and such.

[sonic field]

ye, this also reduced your tankyness cuz less mana for mom

and ofc its an opportunity cost over another ammy

[agile hemlock]

yep

[warm vector]

What about Earthshatter Jugg?

[sonic field]

zerker better most likely

or slayer

[tender gulch]

best leaguestart for the league? kinetic rain? somatic shell? imma be racing too

[hot ivy]

Slams

[tender gulch]

ah ok

but hoefully there's a good endgame transition for em

im tired of slamming all day long

[hot ivy]

Slams is fully endgame viable

[tender gulch]

oh ik, they just got boring for me after running thme a ton

just looking for a transition build

[sweet snow]

spin to win

maw of mischief ignite

ele arrow

[sudden gull]

I'm so excited about this league that I created my own sounds for my loot filter lol. Gotta make sure those divines hit just right.

[sweet snow]

i'll be choosing one of those

[grand hemlock]

Do we have clarity if the disables utility flask downside from the new ascendency work with mageblood constantly applying their effects to you ?

[green remnant]

Not really, but im near 100% certain mageblood doesnt bypass that

[brave marsh]

Reduced duration and soul gain prevention are additive on vaal skills right?

[ancient furnace]

Hey folks, does anyone have a guide for champ aurabot? I was looking for it but I only found the 3.26 version and they used EConc for levelling, I'm worried that it won't be good enough after nerfs :c

[agile hemlock]

Apparently it still feels fine

Nerfs simulated by dropping PT

[ancient furnace]

It does? Oh nice, thanks

I was practicing with ST and it felt miserable

[grand hemlock]

That's the thing though they clarified in the FAQ that cluster jewels count as in the passive tree today, but haven't done the same for MB with the ascendancy so I'm 50/50

10 ragrets and a MB to try it in a week's time

[verbal tapir]

same as always molten strike of zenith

[grand nest]

anyone know if exsanguinate reap miner is good im tryin to have a pretty versatile build for both bossing and mapping

[odd gate]

yeah it's good

[grand nest]

bet ty

[grand nest]

Do you know anyone is specific or just go with fearlessdumbo?

[odd gate]

fearlessdumb0's is good

[grand nest]

Aight ty

[candid shoal]

Any good league starters for slayer, champ or glad?

[cunning blade]

sunder

slams into smite slayer or eviscerate glad

[heady valve]

Guys, if I die on keepers HC, and get sent to keepers SC, will my gold come with me?

[solemn rain]

Does anyone know what outfit they are using in the teaser trailers?

[loud rock]

https://pobb.in/9PWOsXsKEFff Bossing
https://pobb.in/pH4Uh7eQ4BHT Mapping

Preview for bossing and running

Mapping it's basically the speed of Act 9 melee basically

[pine shell]

starting RF and then later switching to CWS to sit in heist n ultimatum , how bad is this decision lol

[rose dragon]

if you mean in simul n ultimatum its hella comfy

just pick some good tv series to watch while cws works

[bleak crypt]

thats a common swap. you cant league start cws. ultimatum is good and easy money with that build

[winged wedge]

Cryonic Ring
Enthalpic Ring
Synaptic Ring
Organic Ring
Fugitive Ring
Formless Ring
What could these be?

[sonic field]

phys dmg reduction and max res

[winged wedge]

Ooo, keen

[gritty basin]

So card farming with Grav got nerfed, right? What do we think the new path-to-profit is for Syndicate?

My gut tells me the most reliable is gonna be just spamming rank 3 leader fights for allflames, veiled chaos, and medallions - then fight Cat for the other veiled currency, maybe the boss uniques, and idr if she can drop all flames as well

[reef igloo]

what build is everyone thinking of playing?

[prime tree]

probably ES zerk. last "slam" i played was sunder in abyss league

[tight zodiac]

does the "Vaal Skills deal 1% more Damage per Soul Required and Vaal Skills require 40% increased Souls per Use" means if skill currenty requires 30 souls now then it will require 42 and the dmg increase will be 42% ?

[wild cosmos]

Probably just spamming hideouts for medallion drops, tho they increased their drop rate at higher ilvs so it depends on how often they'll drop, but I assume their price will still be on the higher end like last league due to minion builds going for that bloodline

[full basin]

Did GGG mention what will hapen to Foulborn uniques after leauge ends?

[loud rock]

prob just rotting in standard like any other

[loud rock]

Mapping example with SHITTIER GEAR (600pdps(?) axe compared to PoB's 800 and no effect of Hidden potential for 200% inc damage) around 60 mill dps less on boss without adrenaline too + map mod 50% avoid impale

[winged wedge]

Ice shot of pen mines, by aer0

I don't mind playing mines and relatively non-tanky builds

[loud rock]

just a warning, lots of helpful role people are calling his builds bait

at least the one he made in maxroll

[thorny pond]

New breach rings

[agile hemlock]

I think ISoP mines are solid enough, tho aer0 is coping if he thinks the new runegraft won't brick fury valve splits

[winged wedge]

Well what's a good back-pocket build if I don't wanna go ISoP

I have done Retaliate glad, a bit slow but went well. I don't want to go RF because I want more clear and damage than that.

Big slams?

[loud rock]

what im going personally

smooth mapping, 900 life on block + 65 65 block + 100% suppress + -300 damage + 130% resist per banner from suppressed spells on bosses / huge packs, more towards 1-2 mill dps for mapping

100 mill dps for bossing if you are just allowed to stack buffs

pinnacles / bosses that just auto attack until you attack to activate

[loud rock]

^ shitty gear in the video

Since I cba to make magic gear like in the PoB

[winged wedge]

Very bad gear. looks nuts

[loud rock]

200% Inc damage with the jewel

Can't get access cause if I scour my gear, I fucking dont have attributes

[winged wedge]

I like the idea of going melee for once

[loud rock]

The build is basically 6 Conditional buffs crammed into 1 build

2x banner for essentially immortality, 1x for 60% DPS bump
Adrenaline (the vid has none for mapping boss)
Pride needing full stacks
Blood stance for Perforate of duality
Perforate of duality being able to attack once every 4 seconds w 2 seconds downtime
Impale being in the map modifier

War banner alone

50+- seconds duration per banner if you don't invest in any other duration items

[thorny pond]

Do we know if kinetic fulisade is a spell or an attack?

[thorny pond]

Isn’t RF with explode good clear?

[sonic field]

its in patch notes iirc

[winged wedge]

It's better, still not remarkable. And I don't like Fire Trap or the single-target damage in general

[thorny pond]

Huh? It doesn’t say if it’s a spell or attack

[thorny pond]

For sure. I get the single target issue. It’s why I never do it personally

[sonic field]

it says "attacking again"

spells dont attack

[winged wedge]

I went super-hard on RF in Ritual, it was nice to turn my brain off and walk suckers to death but I missed clear and speed. Now that melee is back to good numbers I want to do big slams

[thorny pond]

ES is your friend then. It’s the best slam by miles

[agile pawn]

I just can't choose between cold BV and Mamba please help.

[sonic field]

cold bv hasnt been good for a good while

especially on start

[full basin]

Test it today =d

[rare mica]

Any league starter recommendations for SSF?

[grim basalt]

Scarabs

[loud rock]

What I'm running @rare mica

[gritty basin]

Like doing the Grav strategy but targeting scarabs?

[loud rock]

Heister, Bosser, Mapper, and Ultimatum / Simulacrum farmer in one build

[loud rock]

Sample mapping

On the left is Boss DPS

[grim basalt]

Yeah. Do scarabs for whatever is the most meta strat. General scarab drops are nerfed due to the map mods nerfs in t17. People won't be printing them as much.

[loud rock]

On the right is Heist runner with only few passive points changes and 2 gem changes

Video is taken with no Mageblood or Runegraft of the warp

[grim basalt]

Because fub doesn't run syndicate. So whatever fub does. Sell the shovels.

[gritty basin]

Yeah it's not a bad plan, I'll have to ponder

Although, fighting Cat doesn't reset the board anymore, right?

[potent night]

Gamers, on league start (SC) I've only got like 8-9 hours before I have to go, and then won't be able to play until late Sunday, I can finish acts in 3 hours but what should I do after to give me some starting currency to work with when i return? Lab?

[gritty basin]

So it might be feasible to run both at the same time. Target scarabs using the Grav strategy, but still run the other safehouses and just never imprison anyone. As long as they never hit rank 0, they shouldn't leave the division and the scarab farming still works I think

[gritty basin]

Sc trade or ssf?

[potent night]

trade

[gritty basin]

What are you league starting?

[potent night]

99% going poison conc of bouncing

[agile hemlock]

heist for chaos recipe and buy up whatever's cheap leaguestart (meta gems and such)

[potent night]

i could do heist but never done it since heist league, so not sure if i'd waste time trying to learn it

[gritty basin]

Maybe deli then? Try and get as many cluster jewels as you can, throw 'em all in an async tab for slightly under "normal" price and come back in 2 days for profit?

[potent night]

but ig it is just speedrunning contracts?

[agile hemlock]

you buy demo and lockpicking contracts from wakano typically

[gritty basin]

Heist is SUPER easy to learn mechanically, but learning what you want from the end loot takes time imo

[potent night]

i wouldnt mind deli but are low ilvl clusters worth it?

[gritty basin]

Unless you're just grinding regular contracts to get markers and selling whatever misc you get from the side rooms

[gritty basin]

In the first two days? Maybe?

Could also consider delve for fossils and resonators, essence is pretty much always good value

Blight would be a bit of a grab bag, but it's not bad if your build is more clear speed than bossing

[outer zenith]

The new somatic shell gem looks super dope with some of the other wand gems they introduced

[potent night]

essence is probably a safe shout

[gritty basin]

My current plan (as you might have guessed above) is Syndicate and I'll probably combine it with harbs (because I love them) and strongboxes

Basically my goal by the end of the league will be to have three atlas trees that, between them, are set to run all of the main league mechanics. That way I can run different characters and always have a good mapping option prepped, and async trade means I can passively make a lot more than normal

[potent night]

i actually might go delve, haven't done it in ages and with the azurite from tree being removed, might have extra value

[grim basalt]

Nope

Is tujin worth running early league?

[sonic field]

yes

expedition is one of the best early strats

[timber crown]

Idk how about you guys but this time around I want to attempt a speedrun

[balmy frigate]

I want to try the new living lightning support but we dont know how it scales or works yet

[sonic field]

wait 7h

gem info today

[sweet snow]

wait for the big boys to do the math.. just review tomorrow 🙂

[sonic field]

nah better lock in, see funny numbers on new skill, make some garbo pob and then complain on league start

[agile pawn]

It's one of the most played on poe ninja

[sonic field]

or day1 for more accurate starter data

[sonic field]

idk what league are you even checking

[agile pawn]

Merc elementalist

[sonic field]

7%

its 8% at current snapshot which is end of the league data

i dont reccommend it as a starter, and dont get baited by the new unleash node, read how repeats work on bv

[pulsar juniper]

Has anyone spotted anything about the Kirac Vault Pass for Keepers?

I wanna know if i should keep my points for it, or spend them on useless meme cosmetics

[prime tree]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Kirac's_Vault_Pass#List_of_Vault_Pass_seasons
There've been vault passes for the past 10 leagues, would be surprised if there wasn't one for keepers.

[pulsar juniper]

Yes, I meant more the rewards.

[prime tree]

never paid attention to them, don't they usually release shortly after league start? like 1-3 daysish?

[pallid crater]

Where's my list of foulborn uniques Chris PLEASE

[prime tree]

don't think we'll get those. probably more of "we can't wait for the community to discover them" kinda thing

[kind coral]

Syncretism and other Atlas Passive Skills granting either Shrine Buff Effect or Shrine Duration now only grant these benefits to Shrines activated from within Maps.
?
Does it affect The Gull any way? Gull is creating shrines on map so...

Or it's related only to Templar asc. keystone and Blunderborne unique?

[timber crown]

Good question, I'd have to assume its supposed to nerf gulf

[barren crescent]

Man doesnt even work at ggg anymore

[barren crescent]

This is to kill gull and blunderbore gaining benefits from atlas tree

No atlas tree nodes should read: this specific item gets buffed to double the effect

[pale matrix]

is lightning tendrils a good delve league starter and has ES been nerfed?

[agile pawn]

So Gull is dead in 3.27?

[barren crescent]

Nah, they just arent mini hh levels of power

Still good for mapping

[sonic field]

no and no

[dusk patio]

Is there a chance we will be getting the full list of foulborn uniques before launch? Or do we need to wait for data mining? (Primarily asking because I'd really like to see emperor's vigilance for shield builds have a foulborn)

[steady wing]

Prolly not

[timber crown]

Nope, community will have to find out

[kind coral]

This makes Gull worst unique, because you had to click damn shrines LOL

I used it once and it was pain in the ass, especially with high movspeed and screen clustered with VFX's.

I have a question: if you skin transfer unique, linking item in chat would link the transfered skin as well?
I've seen un-corrupted Siegebreaker (the strand/implicit bugged one), but it had mageblood art, so my only guess.

[sonic stirrup]

I don't think this affects Gull

[kind coral]

Shrines count as buffs and duration can be increased by "inc buff duration", right?

Or nowdays only "inc shrine duration" and temporal chains can affect them?

[ashen kraken]

Guys looking to do a Kb cr champion, anythoughts, Noone has anything on it for 3.27

[sonic field]

you mean cf?

[timber crown]

Is it really better to sell identified rares instead of unid?

[kind coral]

yeah, cuz why.
Your only chance is to look on ninja:
https://poe.ninja/builds/mercenaries?class=Champion&skills=Kinetic+Blast&min-level=98&sort=dps

[kind coral]

Rares?

[timber crown]

Yea in act 1. I never paid attention to it but some guy once said its better to sell identified rares while rushing the acts

Then unid

[kind coral]

My only question is why you want to sell rares in Act 1.
Probably do not matter at all. Like not many people would pay more then 1-2 alts for rare a1 item.

This is matter of links

[timber crown]

I mean vendor

[prime tree]

it depends. unid gives you transmutation shards, which can allow you to buy gems.

in A2 you wanna id because the gems costs alts

[kind coral]

Oh.

The ID is free in new league, isn it? From vendor

So you always ID and sell now?

[prime tree]

obviously you id gear that has the links you could use and stuff like weapons and boots

[kind coral]

Or vendor wisdom scrolls have a price in gold? I didn't see it in trailer, I thought it's free ID of inventory

[timber crown]

Yea... that is true.... ok ill sell unid for transmutes so I can afford pconc if somehow I dont drop 1 transmute

Im really trying to hit abt 25 ish minutes per act so I wanna stratagize this leauge start to the max lol

[kind coral]

phys, attr and all elem too, but I'm not sure if it gives 5 in a1

[timber crown]

Wdym

[kind coral]

Some affixes gives a bit more shards. Up to 5 shards

[timber crown]

Ohh thats what you mean yea

[wild cosmos]

What are yall planning to start this time

[loud rock]

banner slammer

[little gust]

I saw the build you posted the other day, with all magic gear and couldn’t figure out for the life of me how it had capped resists

[loud rock]

banners

[little gust]

Defiance banner is what was listed in pob and that only give spell suppress, right?

[loud rock]

rallying icon notable passive

[little gust]

Maybe I just don’t understand the build at all. Hahahaha

[loud rock]

near the impale and verstaile combatant notable

[little gust]

I see. I’ll look at it again! Thanks. Looks fun and easy to transition to better gear later on

[loud rock]

you are mostly immortal if your within your bubble

[loud rock]

mapping example

with shittier gear

boss you can just sneeze at

[loud rock]

Pinnacle boss + running for delve / heist / lab example

without any investment

as long as you can survive hits enough you are essentially immortal while in ultimatum / delirium / etc since your regen is also p high if you are standing in DoTs, you can also get immortal flesh to abuse the positive res you have on

[little gust]

I’ll almost certainly steal this for league start 😂 looks solid

[loud rock]

in every video except running one i show the gear if you just pause

you can just stand in eater's attacks too there and you wont die

im waiting for adrenaline to proc in the vid lmao, it wont go down to low life

i havent even added this yet to the build

+40 mill dps for bosses

[scenic flax]

can RF chieftain become any good build on endgame?

for bossing specifically

[loud rock]

hateful accuser and its below average

it can onetap bosses if you gamble on 5%

[sonic field]

no

[velvet yarrow]

It can reach a point where you do them comfortably but any other build with same investment will be better

[subtle bolt]

I'd love if 3.27 released tonight. I'm ready to go

[scenic flax]

oh shit its tomorrow already

i forgor

[loud rock]

up to you to believe or na

im gonna try full magic item simulacrum day 3 in SSF and see if i can go far

worse case i just upgrade my weapon

or i just get more life in passive tree, enough so that 900 life on block just keeps me alive

i can just play earthshatter or sunder for mapping in simulacrum and swap to perforate to oneshot the boss

ok nvm not day 3 its the lowest weighting wow

[storm orbit]

is there already a site where i can check the new altas skill tree? i think on poe planner it still has all the removed nodes

[loud rock]

poedb

[slow oasis]

I plan to reroll day 3-4 into trickster. Need a build that can clear all 4 stones and farm currency in t16s ( legion/breach) for these 3 days, save all the currency for the reroll, would you say this build can do this on full rare ssf gear and some cheap uniques? Can be any ascendency, I will just lvl new char day 4 it's fine Any advice guys? 🙏

[loud rock]

^ what im going for

videos example available with shit gear

the only thing that i cant run is legion, breach should be fine(?)

a bit lower side in the dps for mapping since 220% of your dps is stationary and impales being half your damage

[hasty lark]

guys, would cyclone build be a super expensive build in the upciming 3.27? or is it decent?
thinking of picking it as leaguestarter

[odd gate]

cyclone is bait

it's weak comparatively

[shy terrace]

still remember full screen dual wield cyclone doing 5way carries back in the legion league where 50% of ppl played it. is it enough to bring it back idk and now there is a lot of op builds

[hasty lark]

so what would you recommend as a leagues tarter for dad gamers with limited time? 😅

rf?

[west badger]

Cyclone is also a fine dad build.
Rf too
And slams

[hasty lark]

will cyclone do better in single target dps than RF?
I was actually thinking picking one of them

[west badger]

That's a tough one.
I think cyclone will pull ahead in St early.
But level out to about the same if you focus on it

[hasty lark]

I see, well I guess i'll try cyclone, looks like a fun build
haven't tried malee build yet

[west badger]

There is a good Shockwave cyclone build out there updated for 3.27
Cant find it right now but it's on YouTube by a guy who plays it often

[hasty lark]

sounds great, i'll look it up, thanks 🙂

[odd gate]

i think rf would out perform cyclone for general league start and progression

[hasty lark]

would you mind elaborate why?

and if you have a better suggestion than both of these build your'e welcome to share 🙂

[odd gate]

significantly tankier earlier, better map clear with explosions, requires basically no gear at all

cyclone does have better single target

most importantly though, rf is harder to mess up and has the most comprehensive guide of all builds (pohx's wiki)

[hasty lark]

got you, and you changed my mind, which is pretty easy as you can see 😆

[hasty lark]

so right now rf chief is the go to RF build?

[odd gate]

that being said, if you know what you're doing, pick whichever looks cooler

ring of fire, or spinning weapon

[hasty lark]

well, Im not a completely newbie, but I do have only around 400hrs so that's still pretty beginner when talking about poe 🙂

[wild cosmos]

Yall think they'll nerf the funny 5-link in campaign thingie, just watched ZiggyD's video and it feels like this new system thingie is printing 5-ish links

[prime tree]

didn't it have a bunch of points invested in it? so you'd have to spend time in the campaign to progress the tree thing to get the 5link.

not sure if that's worth the hassle.

[odd gate]

probs not, i don't think ggg are afraid of giving us hood gear in campaign
it's already common-ish to get a 5L from gambling

[odd gate]

yeah he was 10 levels over zone

[wild cosmos]

Oh right

[hasty lark]

whats that 5l "thingy"? 🤔

[wild cosmos]

Basically interacting with the breach tree and speccing into equipment links n stuff then crafting gear usin that

[fierce nacelle]

Did they not change the skill tree?

[sonic field]

nop

[quaint roost]

simu any good for currency early?

[sonic field]

simu and early dont go together

not because they are bad, but because you cant do them

cws is the fastest for them

and then yes they are good

[quaint roost]

what abt retaliate glad

[sonic field]

not enough recovery

but better option that most others

[loud rock]

also you cant get past wave 10 cause of the bosses lmao

wrong reply, shouldve replied on not enough recovery

[prime tree]

minion accuracy stuff was removed/replaced and then the ascendency changes and bloodline ascendencies additions. Other than that, there don't seem to be any changes.

[sonic field]

yep single target would be a problem too

[upper idol]

Some1 help me decide, do i go exsang/reap trickster, pconc into poison brand pathfinder, or pconc into seismic trap pathfinder.

My goal is to rush uber elder for carries, planning to play alot opening week so can farm currency

[thorny pond]

If you’re gonna boss… I’d say seismic trap

[sonic field]

well definetly not reap for boss carry, it has good st but not early uber farmer tier

[steady estuary]

I have played a few leagues, but only beaten the campaign, I want to grind this league and im kinda clueless about what build to pick, I have looked at molten strike og zenith, but it needs currency to get going, what should I do before I have currency? I have also looked at cyclone shockwave slayer and pconc pathfinder

[loud rock]

look at maxroll for new player friendly guide with progression guide

[sonic field]

earthshatter berserker is prob the most hyped starter currently, and its on the same class as msoz so you can swap later

[sweet snow]

so slamer it is then

cyclone is good too, but might be slower but should scale better

[severe plume]

Havent heard anyone hype up earthshatter, theres nothing to hype its ancient build

If u want hype build u play wander

[loud rock]

theres a poll in reddit poe or somewhere, 50% is elementalist iirc

[severe plume]

Everyone and their mothers will play wander

[loud rock]

berserker and other melees are very downward lmao

[sonic field]

then you arent looking anywhere, baiscally all tier lists have it in s tier

wander is very popular yes

but it will be split across ascendacies

[severe plume]

S tier doesnt mean hyped tho exsang mines is s tier too and there's 1 guy only talking about it

[sonic field]

you have ele, necro, deadeye, warden even some occys and champs

[sweet snow]

mines is a different play style

[severe plume]

Same with cws rf

Is that hyped? Probably not

But its s tier cause its best build for potentially the best farm available

[sonic field]

exsang mines have the mines treatment

some avoid these

[sweet snow]

it's like RF. love or hate.

[sonic field]

even when hexblast was very dominant it wasnt top 1 in numbers

and that build was even better than exsang

[sweet snow]

ive played hexblast before. not exsang

[sonic field]

i played both

[loud rock]

kinda small votes of 6k

[sonic field]

and only certain part of community

[loud rock]

eh we will just see on ninja later

[sonic field]

yep

i still expect there to be a lot of eles

[sweet snow]

Glacial Cascade is alway strong too

[severe plume]

Hc players will go slams

[sonic field]

i mostly seen ppl shit on it that they didnt like it

[severe plume]

In trade i think ppl will go wands cuz fubgun jung rue palsteron and probably 20 other streamers are also doing it

[sweet snow]

streamers are streamers... they will do whatever that's new and get views

[severe plume]

Yes and people play what they play

And wands are absurdly strong atm

Why not play it

Have you watched jung's 2 stone wand vod?

Its ridiculous

[sweet snow]

nope. let me check it out

is it like 5 mirror budget?

[severe plume]

Its ssf 2 stone run

What mirror

Like ssf start

He's on blue gear

[sweet snow]

ok

[severe plume]

And thats before lycia 1k flat lightning dmg too

And theres graft for lucky lightning dmg too

It will only get stronger

[true gate]

You can’t compare jungle Ryan to the average casual

[warped pike]

Does it start today or tomorrow?

[true gate]

Tomorrow

[warped pike]

Thanks

[true gate]

31st October at 3pm ET/12pm PDT

[finite tundra]

Guys coudl you suggest a fun skill for me to try league start with ? im tryna go slayer

[true gate]

Flickerstrike 🙂

[sweet snow]

flicker is always the go to if all fails

[true gate]

Flicker on slayer is good fun

Let Jesus take the wheel

[loud rock]

maxroll or youtube zizaran / carn

slayer masterrace is carn

[sweet snow]

wtf.. i'm looking at jung's witch wander leveling guide and i can say.. i get to his 6hr in 5 days

[true gate]

Yea. Jungle Ryan is an alien

[loud rock]

dont compare to actual good players

they can finish campaign in 3 hour

[sweet snow]

me too.. with a mb 😛

[ripe vigil]

If you go with Kinetic Rain, which character will u use?
Deadeye or elementalist

[true gate]

Neither

[sweet snow]

elemental will have better survivability

[hasty lark]

isnt it like a super expensive build?

[ripe vigil]

Yeah, but with deadeye u have 2 more projectiles

[true gate]

Not really, it has a really high ceiling for min/max though. Look at some videos by Magefist on YouTube

[ripe vigil]

I did all content with 1 div

With the scion

[hasty lark]

so should I consider scion flicker over RF chief?

[sweet snow]

u dont even know if kinetic rain is any good.. so play something you like that can swap into it

[true gate]

Or swap out of it hehe

[hasty lark]

so hard to decide which build to go with 😵

[true gate]

Depends on what you enjoy in gaming. Remember that the goal should be to have fun

[sweet snow]

flicker is the failsafe

[true gate]

This will be a fun league for flicker with breach

[ripe vigil]

I wll go with Kinetic Bolt and the swap

[true gate]

Hold the gas pedal down and zip around

[hasty lark]

I basically want to explore more builds
I try to go with different build every league

[hasty lark]

RF would also be good for breach no?

[true gate]

Go with a safe build you haven’t tried yet to farm currency and then wait for the nerds to math out the meta

[sweet snow]

death oath would be better imo

[true gate]

RF is a fail safe for gamer dads or people with no skill

You can transition to CWS too

[hasty lark]

cws?

[true gate]

Cast when stun

[sonic field]

cast when stunned

[sweet snow]

CWS is good for 2 things

[true gate]

Look up emiracle CWS on YouTube

[hasty lark]

I actually decided to go with RF I am just worried about the single target issue with this build

[sweet snow]

RF is hard to scale pass midgame

firetrap still good for single?

i played it like 4-5yrs ago

[true gate]

For any RF shenanigans just go join Pohx cult

Man has his own website dedicated to that skill

[sweet snow]

yeah, i followed his guide before

i guess i'll do wander to start

forget melee zerker

[junior tulip]

how's shockwave totem heiro as a league starter? it doesnt seem to require much to get rolling.

[sweet snow]

have u played totem before? it's a special play set

[agile hemlock]

once you get an astral proj, it'll be pretty good AFAIK

I only did it zHP for sanctum, and hatred nerfs did hurt it, but it should still hit playable numbers.

[junior tulip]

most of my chars are totem/mines/traps.

i've never tried swt before, nor heiro.

[sweet snow]

heiro is good

[agile hemlock]

You get autotargeting low latency freeze, so against low density it feels really comfy

and the aoe is kinda good enough to get away with clear as well

[sweet snow]

when i played.. i went offscreen clear. not shockwave

KB

but this was like 3yr ago. not sure about the update. it was smooth and easy

[junior tulip]

how's the boss damage?
my main concern over time has been that i simply lack the damage to kill bosses in time. like that wolf guy in the woods map (forget name). almost always a guaranteed death.

[agile hemlock]

that is an unusual issue to have on totems/mines/traps, but single target is good, I was hitting like 130m with fairly reasonable pricing, tho that had a couple conditionals since I only needed that for lycia.

and ofc you'll have to invest more since you don't get to just go zHP

[junior tulip]

i finally got around to watching a sanctum guide and tahat was what had me looking swt in the first place.

[agile hemlock]

it feels really nice for sanctum since it can deal with the ambushing knights without having to memorize where they spawn and dodging them (when you get the hasted affliction, they're near the limits of human reaction time for dodging them without warning)

typically they will just oneshot you, but if you keep a totem nearby it'll freeze them before they get to hit you

[ashen kindle]

Heya. I'm a new player and tried a little bit of 3.26 and now I wanna go and play 3.27 to the max. However, I cannot find a guide on Maxroll for a Marauder and I want to play that for the next league? Should I just wing it and not follow a guide? I'm still clueless in PoE though.

[true gate]

Earth shatter zerk

[cunning tartan]

Can anyone please Tell me when the Update will go online?

[true gate]

https://youtu.be/I5BSwTlkmx8

[true gate]

Oct 31 12pm pdt

[ashen kindle]

Oooh thank you! I'll check it out. Awesome!

[sweet snow]

i was going slams zerker or witch wander

or cyclon shockwave

[tawny wedge]

is there somewhere i can find all the info we have about grafts in one place?

i think i remember seeing cooldown and duration numbers on the lightning one but i dont remember where

[ashen kindle]

I, uh... got the POB for the guide. Looks cool on the video... understood about 7% of the POB though. On the Skills tab drop-down menu, there are 1-12, normal lab, cruel lab, etc. Can I ask what are the labs?

[true gate]

Labs are the labyrinths you need to complete to get your ascendancy points for your class

Poelab is a good site that has the map layouts usually for the different difficulties of lab

[slender cedar]

hmm anyone try lacerate glad last league or before how was it ? i was thingking league start it with Eviscerate help in clearing

[wild cosmos]

Its alright in league start yeah

[slender cedar]

I was kinda wondering would it clear fast enought or not

I did saw some ppl saod its go quite slow since dot stuff

[robust fjord]

guys, whats the loot nerf everyones talking about?

what exactly is nerfed?

[agile hemlock]

you can get way less map explicit effect

which was the main way people were getting good numbers on their maps

and most strats from settlers were nerfed

[sonic field]

endgame strats, if you never fiddled with endgame juicing you wont feel a change

[robust fjord]

is it scarab nerfs?

[sonic field]

partially

depends on strat

[agile hemlock]

blight and alva got scarab nerfed, but the fundamental thing is just the fact your maps will have smaller quant/rarity/pack size numbers, since the multipliers aren't as big

[scenic flax]

good ish but endgame it takes a long ass time to scale compared to anything else

iirc it was nerfed 3.25 or 3.26

rf might be extremely good this season if the new mechanic is a bit op compared to everything else

and even if it isn't, still a pretty solid skill to get 2 voidstones easily even if you are shit like me lol

[sonic stirrup]

is that so?

isn't RF clear kinda mid

[sweet snow]

i put rf as mid due to scaling issues

[ornate vine]

Hey guys whats a good wand league starter this league?

[tender gulch]

Guys, if I want to later transition to Kinetic Rain. Would it be wise to speedrun/race w/ friends Ziz's LIGHTNING CONDUIT Elementalist?? is that one fast?

[ornate vine]

Like I wanna learn to do bosses/ farm like blight, legion, scarab ect

[sweet snow]

any wander is good

[scenic flax]

till t16 i found it to be pretty fine, specially since the crafting is so easy

you don't need much to craft a good scepter and rings

the other gear just need tons of health and defensives and boom, you can do t16's

the more health you have the better till you focus on fire trap

nvm, i forgot this is not ssf chat

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[ornate vine]

Ahh ok I saw a Herald stacking one is that one good ?

[junior tulip]

how's the single target of viper strike of mamba?

[agile hemlock]

around 100m at the high end setup, assuming you're running content with some toughness/ubers

otherwise you may get dotcapped

[fierce nacelle]

Anyone league starting assassin?

[coarse lark]

what are the best builds for the new league coming tomorrow?

[simple arch]

Maybe this isn’t the right place for this, but I’ve only played last season of POE. I’m looking for a ranger character for league start. Any suggestions?

[minor dirge]

fubguns Deadeye KineticBlast

[ivory sand]

I'd recommend Poisonous Concoction of Bouncing Pathfinder, with consideration of starting what I previously stated and later pivoting into a different poison skill, the popular choice being Viper Strike of Mamba If you need specific guides I'd recommend looking at the ones listed in this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1oit0of/327_keepers_of_the_flame_league_start_build_index/

[simple arch]

Thank you man! This post is great! Thank you!

[sonic field]

take care with that list

it has a decent bunch of bad builds on it

even one rather infamous creator

[finite tundra]

Whats a good skill to play impale with ? ( ive never played impale )

[agile hemlock]

relic of the pact (or any other phys spell really), dual strike on champ.

[finite tundra]

oh shi so any phys spell ?

and then i just stack full phys ?

or do i also go ele dmg ?

Is attack damage the same as phys damage ? what are they different in ?

[agile hemlock]

physical damage is a damage type, similar to fire/cold/lightning/chaos

[odd gate]

!dmgsources

[drifting thicket]

PoE 1 has 4 damage sources:

• Attack
• Spell
• Damage Over Time
• Secondary
  These are mutually exclusive, so for example, Damage Over Time is never considered Attack Damage or Spell Damage. And therefore, stats like "#% increased Spell Damage" don't affect DoTs, even those applied by spells.

Note that some Gems have lines such as "Modifiers to Spell Damage apply to this Skill's Damage Over Time effect" which can make additional modifiers apply to the skill's damage.

This game has 5 damage types: Physical, Lightning, Cold, Fire, and Chaos. A hit can have several damage types at once, or just one. DoTs will only ever have one, but an enemy can be suffering multiple different DoTs at the same time.

[odd gate]

!dmgtypes

[drifting thicket]

PoE 1 has 4 damage sources:

• Attack
• Spell
• Damage Over Time
• Secondary
  These are mutually exclusive, so for example, Damage Over Time is never considered Attack Damage or Spell Damage. And therefore, stats like "#% increased Spell Damage" don't affect DoTs, even those applied by spells.

Note that some Gems have lines such as "Modifiers to Spell Damage apply to this Skill's Damage Over Time effect" which can make additional modifiers apply to the skill's damage.

This game has 5 damage types: Physical, Lightning, Cold, Fire, and Chaos. A hit can have several damage types at once, or just one. DoTs will only ever have one, but an enemy can be suffering multiple different DoTs at the same time.

[odd gate]

oh it's the same message lol

[agile hemlock]

attacks can do physical damage, elemental damage, chaos damage, or some combination of the three (same for spells)

impales only work for physical damage

on spells, you use the unique entropic devastation

and get a good amount of crit chance

[finite tundra]

ooh so i shouldnt do melee damage or attack damage on impale ?

just phys ?

o wait im dumb

nvm

i just re-read your text

[odd gate]

also read the bot message

[finite tundra]

oke thank yu

ig i gotta test all phys skills and choose the coolest or sum

oh yeah guys i have a question how do people get so much leech i look at youtubers builds and they ahve like 2k or sum leech/on hit rate and i look at mine and no matter how many regen nodes or life leech nodes i take i get like 200 or 500

is it just the items? cuz im kinda new and i dont do items rn in PoB i just do the skill points

[cunning stratus]

For the challenge cosmetics, will we eventually be able to use those in POE2?

[sonic field]

yes

[cunning stratus]

That's awesome. Is there anywhere I can see the set? I looked on the official POE site and googled but all the info is how to beat the challenges, not what it looks like

[sonic stirrup]

You can if you want to

Basically any skill that doesn't convert or have flat ele or Chaos or other things that aren't relevant will be usable

[sonic stirrup]

5% instant leech leech mastery

[finite tundra]

ooh ok thanks

but do i need multiple leech nodes or just get the mastery and das it ?

[sonic stirrup]

It doesn't really interact with any other leech stats

[balmy moss]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3870620

[tranquil plume]

What’s the difference between physical damage and added attack physical damage?

[limpid basin]

well, "physical damage" simply refers to the type of damage

damage can be physical, cold, lightning, fire, or chaos, and physical is one of those types

"added attack physical damage" is a stat that adds that much base damage to whatever skill it's affecting

you might need to get a little more specific

if you have a specific interaction/item/modifier in mind

[scenic flax]

is zizaran the bad creator?

[sonic field]

no

phoenix

[limpid basin]

yeah phoenix is not great

[agile hemlock]

I think that change is just phrasing

[scenic flax]

ty

[tranquil plume]

I get the part about physical damage - it’s the patch notes, they changed damage on bone shatter from added attack physical damage to physical damage. I figured it was phrasing, but checking.

[limpid basin]

oh yeah that part is just phrasing

[blissful onyx]

Looks like he got removed from that list

[sonic field]

good

[wild token]

kinetic rain deadge before even released? seems very nerfed compared to what was announced with the league

[scenic flax]

whats a list that shows which build is ssf friendly?

[thorny pond]

Do we think Kinetic Fusilade will work like Ember Fusilade from PoE2? Where if you have +projectiles you'll create more per "Attack"

[agile hemlock]

that seems to be the phrasing

[balmy frigate]

I really want to abuse the living lightning support.

[winged wedge]

Guardian with living lightning?

[latent parcel]

Wand league kekw kap

[balmy frigate]

Maybe, I assume they scale off minion nodes. So either guardian minions or necro

[nimble current]

Where is a good place to look up starter builds? I usually just use youtube. Need a fun build

[agile hemlock]

maxroll is the ol' reliable

[odd gate]

maxroll if you're newer
otherwise pathofexilebuilds subreddit has a megathread of league starters

[nimble current]

big thanks!

[elder vale]

i wonder what living lightnig dmg is base off. They wpn you use, or some stats we do not know a bit like srs.

[agile hemlock]

it's a minion, so like srs

[elder vale]

Hope we get datamining them before launch. To know if its atleast as good as srs in base dmg. Hopefully better, or it wont be viable since we can only have 8

[sonic field]

ofc we will, when patch download goes op

[simple plank]

What time zone does the game go live on Keepers? UtC?

[sonic stirrup]

big timer on the website

[agile pawn]

Earthshatter gutted?

[rose dragon]

What

[visual rover]

zizaran rarely makes his own builds anymore from what ive seen. his channel is primarily just formatting and POB collaborations with build makers / meta setters. its not a bad thing, i think he gets too much crap either way

[sonic field]

yes dont play

[wicked sparrow]

League starts in ~19.5hrs right? Just double checking cause timezones

[elder vale]

mine says 19hour 29min right now

Think i yolo Arc with living lightning as necromancer if i do not see anyone come up with something super insane with it.
Atleast that way i can convert to something else minion base if it fails horrible.

[merry anchor]

just go off what the website says. the countdown timer is universal regardless of timezone

[simple osprey]

kinetic rain is now renamed to kinetic bathtub water

[inland helm]

Is there a new skin to unlock with Kirac’s vault or no update this league?

[thorny pond]

Is there a compeditum for Spectres for PoE1 like there is for PoE2?

[raw swallow]

Is there much of a consensus on the kinetic rain numbers? Nerf looks brutal but the alt quality one should still be good right?

It's pretty much the pre need numbers w/o explode things

Which you could just add back with support gem if they end up being good

[ripe wadi]

hey guys, wondering is a phys dot build is new player friendly? - played a decent bit of poe2 but im aware that poe1 is alot more in depth.

[odd gate]

link the guide

imexile's/rue's are good but they might not be detailed enough for newer players

[raw swallow]

Shouldn't be complicated imo. I haven't played it on elementalist, but it isn't hard. The only thing you can screw up is life costs to keep up cf buff. But that's not like build ruining and both creators generally make builds I'd trust.

Tldr is you need to spend a minimum amount of life in its duration to refresh the duration. If the buff drops you just need to cast it again

[ember otter]

Blight contagion occ or physdot elementalist?

[odd gate]

phys dot

[ember otter]

imexile or ruetoo version?

nvm they are the same

[fierce nacelle]

Oshabi assassin looks interesting. If you unleash 9 seals. The crit us rolled only once. So with 100 percent more crit on full life enemies you barrage should do alot of damage

[regal stratus]

Does anyone know if you can create hardcore characters in a keepers private league and have them go to softcore private league?

[limpid wave]

Hey what are the websites you get builds off again ?

[devout osprey]

maxroll.gg/poe or youtube

[inner pulsar]

im currently just using craft of exile to make some placeholder gear for PoB using the process i normally do in a league. I get to a 2/2 shield with 2 decent suffixes, depending on how common(LMAO NO) Foulborn Exalted Orbs are it might be a pretty good idea to cheap benchcraft to fill one half of the mods, then foulborn exalt slam the other half full. and if it's a good mod, then spend the effort to lock affix/shenanigans

[outer stone]

can Bleed Somatic Shell be a thing?

[junior adder]

Hey guys im new to poe saw some cool farm in endgame with alva dropping tons of currency, will this still work next leauge?

[fallow mica]

ruetoo exsanguinate build

[rare mica]

What youtubers have good league starter builds for this patch?

[fallow mica]

ben_

[junior adder]

Snoobae

[fallow mica]

start as phaseplays' slams to speedrun acts and maps then reroll into what you want to really play

https://www.twitch.tv/ben_ slams playtest by Ben

[heady marlin]

are there some reliable league starter builds people always follow into or they just F around and find out?

[west surge]

Yes there are plenty of reliable league starters

One of them being Pohx Righteous Fire build

It's not the greatest build ever and it doesn't do a lot of damage, but it's extremely reliable and works every league consistently

[heady marlin]

are there any places i should know of to find these?

i know of maxroll/youtube though finding updated reliable ones take a while

[inner pulsar]

so with the new assassin node, what happens now?

can you recoup more than 100% of the original hit?

i feel like life-tanking poison hexblast mines assassin is not the way to play path of exile but this seems too fun to pass up

[manic mural]

Yes and it works exactly like you'd think: at 100% recoup a 100 dmg hit will recover 100 hp over 4 seconds, at 200% recoup you'd recover 200 dmg over 4 seconds

[inner pulsar]

Great!... So if I'm using this in conjunction with petrified blood it'd want to avoid the recovery mastery that makes recoup happen in 3 seconds so they keep pace, right?

[manic mural]

Idk about the math of that, but pb is after the recoup calc, so as long as you have enough recoup it'll match

Ah I see what you mean

Well it's like poison duration, it'd be same recoup amount in less time

[inner pulsar]

but if it hits the PB 50% cap and burns itself out, then pb loss can leave me lower than i should be

[limpid wave]

Boys rolling magma build LS

[manic mural]

OK did some reading and I think you're right to not take the mastery. Not an expert though, just a +1 from me that it looks right

[brazen pulsar]

What weapon would a Smite Gladiator use? The idea is to take lucky block then the 50% increased duration/aoe/aura effect Chaos Bloodline node for permanent vaal smite buff thats supercharged, but with cracked block chance from the double lucky shield

[verbal tapir]

i mean thats rlly just the 2 main places sometimes can find some cool stuff on forums / reddit but yeah... just make sure you check to see if its for 3.27 and can always link something here to ask if its bait or not

sorta just depends what you want

[rare mica]

Guys i need league starter suggestion (and the only build this season, so it should be scalable to later too)
I'm planning to play SSF for the first time ever and i'm a noob too
I want something that can clear maps quickly and also be able to kill all the bosses
I want something where i don't constantly have to press too many buttons (carpal tunnel)

[odd gate]

phazeplay's bleed slam slayer

[long trench]

pconc PF into viperstrike of mamba PF

[rare mica]

Do i have to go back in order to loot if it's a DOT build?
I mean they die after i have left the screen right

[rare mica]

I only wanna play 1

Something that'll work all the way from start till end

[odd gate]

they die pretty quick, you have high damage

and you slam so far in front of you

[heady marlin]

alright thank you

[odd gate]

also pathofexilebuilds subreddit has a league start megathread, all the builds in there should be good
maxroll is better for newer players, it's significantly more detailed than the average build guide

[heady marlin]

nice, i'll check it out once the league starts

[hollow marsh]

Uhhh chat help. Bleed slams or Assassin Wanderer for LS?

Wander*

Or something elementalist. I’m def conflicted. I know for sure second build maybe will be Emiracles CWS

[obsidian pelican]

assassin wand league start is bait for campaign it'll be decent after campaign though

[ashen prawn]

anyone got a sabo triggerbot voltaxic burst build

[rare mica]

I'll check them out thanks!

[hollow marsh]

So it’ll suck in camp I’m reading?

[obsidian pelican]

i can give u my elementalist leveling build if u want it

[hollow marsh]

I’m not against that tbh.

[still pike]

Is this league SSF friendly guys?

[odd gate]

if you're a blaster, it's going to be rough with exiles dead for uniques
and abyss for currency being dead
idk where you're getting your scarabs anymore, and no more grav lottery

if you're a casual ssf player, it'll still be fine

[still pike]

I'm a casual and want to take it easy but my friend is telling me they added new feature to sell items at hideout so its silly to go SSF this league

[loud rock]

We truly are, running in the Path of Exile

[wind sparrow]

can someone help me in #1┃build-planning pls im so confused with these 2 builds ;-;

[shut smelt]

do these builds include the new features? i am always curious as to how creators are able to make the builds without actually playing. Using PoB i am sure, but does it include the new skill gems and/or passives?

[neat pebble]

did the new league started ??

[pine pond]

no

any cool looking effect builds in top tier? similar how fross or fisser was

[lone hedge]

There was a list of maps and tiers for 3.27 right? Where was that, can't seem to find it now

[odd gate]

filter information announcement

[lone hedge]

Thank you!

[halcyon cove]

was there any datamine this time?

[odd gate]

#1┃general message

[wild cosmos]

Man Im so torn between VD spellslinger and Mamba

[sonic field]

vd wasnt buffed enough

mamba just straight up better

and less laggy as well

[wraith furnace]

Why does Living Lightning support say "Cannot modify the skills of minions" instead of "Cannot support skills used by minions"? What's the difference between these two wordings?

[sonic field]

you cant directly support minion's skills since they are not gems

so instead they get modified by whatever you have attached to your summon gem

[wild cosmos]

Honestly fair yeah

And after pobing a bit I feel like mamba can just go much further into scaling than VD

[sonic field]

i mean, with enough investment vd will go higher just because of dot cap,.but we are talking about really deep investment

at which point a better endgame build would be much more efficient with that amount of money

[wraith furnace]

I see. Thanks. That kinds sucks tho, I was really hoping I could put them on a Spectre.

[sonic field]

they want to avoid you multiplying their number by number of minions

since in that case the minion would own them and thus the cap would be per spectre

[wraith furnace]

I thought the minion limit on the gem was global

[sonic field]

your minions arent you

they dont care about your caps as long as they arent strictly related to them

if the limit was global you wouldnt be able to use that skill in coop

[wraith furnace]

I see

[heady marlin]

say..

my friend is gonna play ice shot of penetration and i was thinking of storm rain

are there any issues this would do during content clearing ? Surely two archers isn't necessarily the best thing 😆

[sonic field]

idk about viability of storm rain tbh

ice shot would basically clear maps before you can deal damage

[heady marlin]

https://youtu.be/cIedj9HKe9I?si=myCi-diKpgi53hrE

just seeing some bits of this vid it seems reliable enough

[heady marlin]

i am not looking to clear world records so i wouldn't care for that

i wanna play, move around, not sit around and be bored

[agile hemlock]

the voidstone run optimization is actually crazy tbh, I remember when 10 hours was like a solid 2stone timing on a strong build.

[hearty basin]

merry league launch day all! what are we starting?

[spare ledge]

Im going straight for kinetic fusillade

[halcyon veldt]

Holy relic of something

[hearty basin]

was thinking about going RF but now i've got cold feet lmao

[velvet yarrow]

Always RF

[pale rapids]

I think I'll try Absolution.

[wild cosmos]

Torn between VD and Mamba, but for visual clarity's sake I'll do mamba prob

[lusty jetty]

what are yall gonna leaguestart with

[true gate]

Kinetic pain of suffering

[shut smelt]

still breaking my head over it!!

[lusty jetty]

isnt that giga nerfed

[true gate]

I’m smoking the copium

And I don’t play Poe for meta, I just want to play new stuff

[shut smelt]

not long now!! and then...who knows!

[true gate]

I plan to have fun with new shiny stinky stuff

Can’t beat the sweaty racers and currency farmers as a casual anyway

[lusty jetty]

i got no idea what to play, things in mind currently:
ele wander
ignite evis
phys dot ele
archmage ball
vd
eb
hroc

[blazing glen]

Is there any content creator with a herald Lycia elementalist wander pob, out there?

[true gate]

What did you play last league

[lusty jetty]

bama

[true gate]

Bama still gonna be good this league prolly too

You should probably start ele with golems

Having op friends with you never hurts

[lusty jetty]

witch league

[true gate]

Great starting nodes for wander too

And you can pivot to many builds

Ez reroll

[kind coral]

Is delirium ascendancy keystone is the first naming nerf in history of poe?

[sonic field]

doubt it

[heady gazelle]

So uhh.. weapon wise for RF I just wanna aim for sceptres with fire dmg/fire skill, basically?

[agile hemlock]

yea

[true gate]

Basically

Fire dot is nice too

[agile hemlock]

you can throw a couple scorched fossils on a sceptre and get something playable in a <10

[wild cosmos]

Right above your message :D

[alpine badge]

How long before launch can you usually join queue?

[sonic field]

just refer to the pohx's site, it has all the answers for you

[sonic field]

1h ish

[prime tree]

depends. you can check the previous times when queues went up. can be like 30ish minutes after patch servers go live

[alpine badge]

Is there an actual list?

[prime tree]

nah, but you can search the poe1 news channel for "queue" and check the time different to the news when the patch servers went live

[alpine badge]

That’s smart lol, thx

[heady gazelle]

Ah good to know. Fire damage affects RF but spell damage doesn’t.

[sweet snow]

play death oath if you haven't instead of RF. scales easier

[heady gazelle]

I'll look into that, RF seems chill, I don't plan to go giga tryhard, so probs push it to endgame and use it to farm

[sweet snow]

death oath won't get u to end game easily... it's for currency farming

shieldcharge and see explosions... will have issues with boss at start game

[heady gazelle]

ah ok

[zealous belfry]

What do folks think about Pconc of bouncing assassin?

[twin bramble]

Physical DoT Elementalist or Bleed Gladiator for league starter? help me pick!

[oblique steeple]

death oath kinda poo poo

its kinda an occultist only thing cause it does so little you need to be carried by profane bloom

and your generally going to need that 60% chaos res to help get the res needed to enjoy it

If I was leaguestart occultist it might be okay... just nothing compared to an actual rare with 5 link

no reason to start occultist tho for me, I kinda only see value in Saboteur and Scion cause I play lifestacker autobomber

[zealous belfry]

Lacerate with Jack the Axe and Rigwald sword is VERY strong and very survivable for a league starter.

with just some crappy defensive yellows + Jack Rigwald you'll rip into t16.

I think it's surprisingly slept on for casual builds / smooth league start

[twin bramble]

@zealous belfry is it worth spending a few weeks into it other than league starting?

[zealous belfry]

Yes because it transitions flawlessly into standard lacerate gladiator, which scales absurd once you get into big, fancy crafted weapons.

You can get up to 4-7 mil dps for 3-5 divines, and then once you're printing currency go turbo.

[twin bramble]

@zealous belfry any PoB or content creator you'd recommend?

[zealous belfry]

uhhh

just poe ninja lacerate glad lol

It's honestly a super simple and intuitive build to run lol

[prime tree]

https://old.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1oit0of/327_keepers_of_the_flame_league_start_build_index/ has a lacerate guide by ronarray. no idea if it's good or not tho, never played lacerate glad

[bleak timber]

update gonna drop X hours before the new league?

[rose dragon]

Replica farul setup is good, but cba to check the guide

[prime tree]

servers go down 3h before the countdown reaches 0. shortly after servers go down - 1-15 minutes usually - patch servers go up.

[zealous belfry]

Hmm...maybe cwc cyclone corpsewalker corpse explosion assassin

with two x consuming dark + lycia bloodline you can get 100% fire to chaos

[bleak timber]

so in like 5 hours from now?

[prime tree]

the countdown is at 6h13m right now. so in 3h13m the servers go down.

then, some minutes later, the patch will be available for download on the various platforms

[zealous belfry]

Or maybe the dubstep blender. (CWC wave of conviction cyclone)

Yeah, with consuming dorks, lycia and the chaos mastery I could get all of the fire, 40% of the phys and 25% of the lightning converted to chaos

[dire forge]

Does anyone have xp with animate weapon builds? Considering it for LS

[winged wedge]

Goratha or Ronarray. I took Goratha's Retaliate Glad very far in Settlers league

Not very cheap or fast but goes far with bad gear and then becomes very reliable and tanky

I killed a few Ubers for the first time with it

[twin bramble]

@winged wedge does it fare well in breach? i wonder if retaliate-based builds will be good for the league mechanic

[winged wedge]

You know what, I am not sure

In high density, yes. The thing is the breaches want you to kill monsters constantly to keep the breach from collapsing

And retaliate skills are not always active when you want them, because they need you to get hit and then they are usable for a limited time

[plush python]

so which build is the best for this league?

[halcyon veldt]

this holy relic thing seems more and more sketchy as a "league starter"

i thought i just needed the gem, but nah, i need two transfigured gems, then two uniques that are going to be expensive early on, and a bunch of poison chance jewels?
???
really?

[plush python]

its a trap

[halcyon veldt]

well, maybe the poison isn't mandatory, but idk until i play it

[mental orchid]

hello , anyone know someone shared some duo build guides?

[gilded island]

Dad gamer here, looking for a steady build which doesn't require too much in terms of currency but still steady progress. Could anyone suggest some builds? I am very aware of Righteous Fire being one of the best, but seeing many goes for it and its popularity, perhaps there are easier builds to follow and gcheaper to get going?

[heady gazelle]

Is it cheaper to get RF or Earthshatter to T17s from league start ? Also.. is T17 the goal for map farming or is it T16s to farm? Haven’t played in awhile…

[rose dragon]

Depends on what you want to farm

Rf is kinda annoying to do t17 with, too many mods brick it

Earthshatter should hit t17 on like ground crap

[heady gazelle]

Oh really, it’s that strong? Dang

Might just earthshatter it then, never played it

[surreal gust]

RF Chief is a little too boring IMO. I'm personally using a slam build for the starter. If I was going Elementalist, which I may switch to later on - I'd use this RF Elementalist build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iKQXXD1fi4

[heady gazelle]

Oh snap, looks dope. I’ve actually never played a 2h build lol, always gone wand/sceptre

[glad geode]

Best skill to start as Templar ?

[sweet snow]

totemsssssssssssss

[mental orchid]

anyone shared some duo builds yet?

[magic socket]

is the update out yet?

[sonic field]

check snap on yt, he's the mastermind behind empy's group and does group play builds and farm strats content

[gleaming zodiac]

Approximately the patch will be up ~ <t:1761930045:R>
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1761937245:R>
you can leave your mouse on the timestamp to see exact time

[plush python]

So Wanderer is BIS?

[open snow]

How many hours left till out

[prisma apex]

league starts at 12pm pdt or patch notes will be ready to download and league starts 1 hour later?

[gleaming zodiac]

Approximately when the patch will be up ~ <t:1761930045:R>
Anytime between patch and launch is when the queue will open and you can spam Log In button
Exactly when the queue will start moving and let people in <t:1761937245:R>
you can leave your mouse on the timestamp to see exact time

[gleaming tapir]

whats the mechanic in new league?

[somber meadow]

breach

[past depot]

Did it drop yet?

I am stuck at work

[shadow furnace]

any good video guide for the new ascendanscy ?

[cloud patrol]

guys would you go ele phys dot or hiero frostbolt? I cant decide 🙁

[shadow furnace]

kb

[somber meadow]

is viper strike good for breach?

[wild cosmos]

Is preload out?

[wild cosmos]

Mamba is good for anything with pack size

And breach seems to have that

[gleaming zodiac]

patch is up on steam yeah, restart steam if you don't see it

[wild cosmos]

Juuust did thanks

[fluid abyss]

but the patch is up rn

smh

[shadow furnace]

yeah i was gonna say the same thing

[mental nimbus]

What class is everyone using for endgame this league?

[fluid abyss]

misleading us so they get into q faster

i see i see /j