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[idle coral]

end of june is vacation. by the time i go back to work, my frontal lobe will be fried. i thought its already bad, but apparently its not fried enough by ggg standards

[midnight lynx]

hmm yeah, idk i was thinking finally! worb changes, and then.. yeah just another wortless "rework" aKa change that changes nothign

Do any1 know how much fortification can you get? like 20?

[brave sigil]

20 is base, 26 with a couple points on the tree

max reasonably obtainable is like 30-40

[midnight lynx]

holy moly

[brave sigil]

dont quote me on that tho

past 26 might actually be tough

[brazen scroll]

7 max from timeless I think? +10 max from celestial brace

[brave sigil]

thats like 43 then? dang. Celestial brace is uber exarch tho tbf

[brazen scroll]

Can get big numbers but with armour/ev stacking it always get expensive

[brave sigil]

I might go champ just bc I'll be playing alongside someone. Taunt all enemies, make them deal 20% less damage, and give 26+ fortification to allies? Sheeeeesh

They wont even need defenses at that point

just make them get 5M dps by level 80

not to mention you can make the enemy take 30% increased damage via the taunt/intimidate

seems super good in a multiplayer situation

[high fossil]

Yeah, that's definitely in line with the original vision of champion, party buffs and such

[midnight lynx]

Dang, after reading notes idk what i wanna play xD

nothing on glance dont appeal to me

[high fossil]

Just lurk general for 20 minutes, you'll see about 150 builds get suggested

[midnight lynx]

Oh okay xD

[red stone]

yes

im just gonna leaguestart any buffed already existing build and then look for whatever pops up week 1-2 that looks interesting

[sterile timber]

They don't deal 20% less anymore. That nodes gone.

[brave sigil]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[neat summit]

its not

wait

no its not

it was merged into the first taunt passive

[signal owl]

Which build should I play if I want to spin to win?

I saw GGG spoiled that in today's video

[brave sigil]

i think the taunt on hit part moved to the other one, but the reduced damage dealt was removed and replaced with the banner node

[brave sigil]

Slayer probably

maybe champion

mayber zerker

[signal owl]

That's Mastery

Ascendency

[brave sigil]

What more were you asking for exactly

rare weapon with t1 phys rolls

lol

[signal owl]

How to spec passive points/ascendency points/affixes I want on my gears/skill gems and support gems I should use/why I want them

I wonder can I spin to win pinnacle bosses... I guess it'll quite hard so I need to switch my attack way in endgame

[neat summit]

NVM I see ... Well least you'll still have the 10% from taunt ... And you'll have 11% more from fortify than we had this league minimum

[brave sigil]

You can definitely cyclone pinnacle bosses in ssf / reasonable budget. Not sure about Ubers exactly.

[neat summit]

We went from 15 to perma max ... And you can get +6 on the tree easy

So 5+6 is 11 stacks more

[brave sigil]

I think any old cyclone build should still be 95% accurate. I dont think there were any fundamental changes to the skill

and there's different takes on it

[neat summit]

The new support gem owo ... My new support gem xD

[brave sigil]

generally 2h weapon with as much damage as possible, body armour with high armour or armour/evasion rating, life and res on everything else
melee strike range and inc. aoe is great for mapping
slayer is my ascendancy of choice, lots of way to choose your QoL, whether it's aoe or infinite leech or whatever

[neat summit]

Wonder if I should cyclone or if it's bait

To be fair it's less bait than me wanting to play lightning tendrils

[signal owl]

Armour work in Poe?

[neat summit]

Uwu

Or scorching ray

[brave sigil]

armour is OP in poe

[signal owl]

👀 It's a joke in Poe 2

[brave sigil]

lol yeah

[neat summit]

Honestly I played disentegrate in LE ... And I totally am swaying to playing it here too lel

[brave sigil]

rip armour in poe 2

[neat summit]

But scorching ray would probably suck

[brave sigil]

I just finished a divine ire ignite character and it has sooo many good buffs now

focused channeling with divine ire?

im so sad they buffed it AFTER I played it

[neat summit]

Divine ire got nuked in a follow up post

[brave sigil]

oh?

[neat summit]

At least I think

[signal owl]

Which character should I pick to play cyclone?

[neat summit]

I didn't see it but someone said they did

[brave sigil]

i saw hexblast get nuked

[neat summit]

Budget ... Go jug and get can't be slowed

Or slayer but then you eat the speed penalty

But you'll have more dmg

And area

[signal owl]

I played hexblast as the main skill of my first character

My conclusion is I never want to play that again because defense is too weak

[neat summit]

But ye jug or slayer

XD

[brave sigil]

i think slayer is just straight up better than jug for cyclone

unless you mirror-tier stack str

[neat summit]

Late game it is because you can get the jug passive from a unique

But early game jug might be on par

With its ups and downs

[brave sigil]

gotcha

I just know the slayer aoe passive double dips with cyclone and the leech is insane for early game

since cyclone benefits from the aoe and strike range

[hybrid ingot]

So, is Currency Exchange being cross platform this league ?

[signal owl]

https://poedb.tw/us/Endless_Hunger#AscendancySlayer10

Do this node help me to immune corrupted bleeding too?

[brave sigil]

Corrupted Blood =/= Bleeding

You can get corrupted blood immunity via a corrupted jewel (it has to have the corrupted blood immunity implicit) or via a protection mastery

[signal owl]

Which ascendency can immune corrupted bleed?

[brave sigil]

None

Ascendancies don't grant corrupted blood immunity

[signal owl]

What's protection mastery?

[signal owl]

Oh then it's a how to manage passive branches issue

[glad zephyr]

you can find that on corrupted jewel implicit

[brave sigil]

99.99% of players solve it with a jewel

the protection mastery is more for like

if you're super broke

lol

[glad zephyr]

or life flask

[brave sigil]

jewel example

[signal owl]

Can't get my charges back quickly before

So I don't want to depend on flasks

[strong nebula]

planned on playing it, kinda new, is 22% net dps a big nerf?

[signal owl]

Increase physical damage/attack speed are affixes I want on jewels? Any affixes else?

[brave sigil]

attributes, resistances, uhh

idk what else off the top of my head

reduced effect of curses on you

mostly damage

[signal owl]

emmm I remembered we can't get attributes and resistances from jewels

[glad zephyr]

7% maximum life

[brave sigil]

oh yeah max life is a big one lol

[signal owl]

2h weapons better than 1h weapon+ shield?

[brave sigil]

2h = damage, 1h + shield = survivability

i believe 2h is generally preferred for cyclone

[signal owl]

Wait, which skill I can use else for more area of effect if I don't want to sacrifice my Ms?

-30% Ms is a lot...

[brave sigil]

?

the -30% (-20% at gem level 20) is part of cyclone itself. Unavoidable

[signal owl]

This is the only way for slayer to buff area of effect?

[brave sigil]

Not sure what you mean exactly. Cyclone gives you reduced movement speed while using it. Just part of the skill, doesn't matter what ascendancy you choose. Slayer can give you additional AoE for your Cyclone skill via the "Impact" node

Anything that says increased area of effect or +X to melee strike range will boost Cyclone AoE

Juggernaut can give you back some of the lost MS with the "Unstoppable" node, and some AoE via the "Unyielding" node and endurance charges

[signal goblet]

How do the channeling supports look?
At first glance i was thinking (hc) righteous fire chieftan, ignite prolif, incinerate

[brave sigil]

they havent shared the stats on the new support gem, no idea if its 30% more or 60% more or how it stacks or anything

infused channeling buff probably isnt super noticeable tbh

other than those two, not many channeling support options. Arctic Armour exists for more damage reduction while channeling (stationary)

@signal owl I'm sure you can find a much better / more complete PoB with a quick google search but if you want some ideas/pointers you can look here: https://pobb.in/uaFpC24f4i0i

@signal owl also here https://poe.ninja/builds/settlersssf/?skills=Cyclone

think of it less as a complete build PoB and more like highlighting some of the stuff you'd want to look at when you make your character

You also might want some kind of impale or bleed later in the game but idk when it comes into play

[neat summit]

It's 60% more for 100% cost

20% of each per stack

So positive stacks 3 times ... Negative 5 times

[brave sigil]

Sheeesh thats crazy

[neat summit]

To be fair most channeling skills need more than that to not be bad

and you gotta waste a slot on infused channeling so it has to at least make up for 2 support gems in 1 slot

So tldr it's mid

But it's a start ... And I claim it as mine owo

[brave sigil]

infused channeling is so good smh

[neat summit]

It's not good it's required

For basically anything that isn't cyclone

It was mandatory at 8% and it's mandatory at 12%

[brave sigil]

idk i think channeling skills get more hate than they deserve

they arent that bad

[neat summit]

They are really bad

[brave sigil]

and 8% doesn't do all that much

[neat summit]

Exactly

They deserved all the hate they got and more that they didn't get

And they probably still do

Channeling is just Soo bad in this game unless your cyclone

And cyclone up until now only exists to be a trigger battery for other stuff

CWC coc

The stupid Aftershock support specifically made for cyclone

[brave sigil]

It just depends how you play ig

no stationary skill will ever be ideal for blasting maps

by definition

[neat summit]

Also not ideal for bossing that your skill has a mandatory delay

[brave sigil]

i mean honestly channeling skills have an advantage in that you can charge up during immune phases and then frontload damage

on the higher end that's pretty valuable

[neat summit]

But you can do the same thing with much better skills for much more payoff

Like that was literally what mines and traps did

And you will only be good for that tiny burst at the begining

Then your back to doing tickles

Because of that delay

[brave sigil]

what makes you think channeling = no dps

[neat summit]

What makes you think it doesn't

And I don't mean no dps

[brave sigil]

I dont see the difference between standing in place to shoot 5 fireballs or standing in place to shoot one big divine ire

[neat summit]

Because you don't

Shooting 5 fireballs takes like 1 seconds ... Waiting for LT to do it's burst takes 3 seconds ... Waiting for scorching ray to regain it's stacks takes 3-5 seconds

[ionic wagon]

wasnt there a new fortify helmet mod shown in the video? I cant find it now

[neat summit]

Most charge skills have either a delay or some building mechanic

[ionic wagon]

nvm found it

[brave sigil]

and that's generally balanced out by innately higher dps once reached

in theory

[neat summit]

The problem is you almost never get to hit those stacks

Unless your cyclone kek cuz you can channel and stay out of the way

At the same time

[brave sigil]

dont get me wrong, I'm not saying channeling skills dont need buffs, i just think it's silly how many people consider them completely unusable garbage

[neat summit]

Because they are

[brave sigil]

and with most channeling skills you can frostblink mid channel and be perfectly fine

[brave sigil]

they literally aren't

[neat summit]

There is almost never a time when you can sit still and commit to 3 seconds of casting

Bossing or clearing

Clearing you want to keep moving ... Bossing you want to move out of the way

This is poe oof

If you can't move you die

And I wish I was exaggerating

Channeling skills also never offer any form of CC because that is supposed to be their downside and CC would make it an irrelevant downside sadge

[brave sigil]

if your gameplay revolves around meta mirror-tier trade league builds, and you're blasting maps at mach 10, channeling skills will never be a viable option, just based on the fact that you're stationary for any amount of time

but, if you're doing anything where enemies take >1 second to kill, channeling is not going to inherently feel worse than instant skills. It's just not

[neat summit]

If you could lock the enemy down for the time it took you to build up you would feel great ... But it would also make the time to build up irrelevant oof ... But right now the buildup process is a bit too rough

[signal owl]

Emmmmm I mean no another melee skills I can select to aoe?

[neat summit]

The problem is even if you ignore the meta players the game isn't ignoring them ... Drops are rough because these people are spamming 60 maps an hour and not 6 maps an hour

Lel

[brave sigil]

I don't think you're understanding lol

[neat summit]

I do ... You said if you ignore everything else it's fine

At least I think

Uwu

[brave sigil]

I'm talking about an average player just getting through maps and quest pinnacle bosses for the sake of progressing and enjoying the game

someone who gets 10 div a league and doesn't currency farm 60 maps an hour

[neat summit]

Ye that sounds horrible

Lel

[brave sigil]

or someone who plays ssf or whatever

like

everything up until uber content

[neat summit]

If you did all of that unrolled then maybe

[brave sigil]

unrolled?

[neat summit]

No mods

[brave sigil]

wdym

[neat summit]

Nvm oof

[brave sigil]

you don't think you can do all content with a channeling skill in ssf unless you leave the maps unmodded?

lol

like actually?

[neat summit]

Yes at least nearing the end

[brave sigil]

this is what i mean, that's an absurd take

you can totally do all non-uber content on a doo-doo homebrew channeling build in ssf

[neat summit]

Like I totally think you can get through the campaign with it

You can do that with just about anything

You wouldn't be taxed till yellows or reds

And especially in those later bosses

[brave sigil]

I think I see what you're saying. By red maps you probably need to put a little more into defenses than you would otherwise and that can take away from damage or qol or whatever else. 100% I agree. I just think that for the non-mach10-map-blaster, needing a little more defenses makes channelling "kinda rough" and not "completely unusable garbage" like most people seem to claim

but idk maybe I'm the only sff player and everyone else is a mach 10 map blaster in which case totally valid to think channeling skills are the most useless thing in poe

[neat summit]

It's also the type of game this is

Drop rates are kinda bad

And the only way to combat that is roll the dice more

So map blasters is just fulfilling the game design

[brave sigil]

eh sorta

it takes many many hours to reach that point in ssf, where move speed or channeling delay is the limiting factor, rather than raw damage output

it just depends where you find the fun and where you spend most of your time playing

by the time i'm blasting red maps for chase items my build is already complete

for me the game is getting it to that point

[neat summit]

I'm ssf uwu

I would love to be allowed to slow down lel

Always end up playing the weird builds anyway

But if the game is balanced around getting as many rolls of the dice as possible slowing down is adding even more friction

[brave sigil]

channeling is only slower at the very very endgame

when raw damage isnt the limiting factor

[neat summit]

It's slower at basically every stage of the game it's just the gap gets wider the further it goes

I still think we need a momentum support for channeling owo

[brave sigil]

I'm like 95% sure a scorching ray will kill a tough rare faster than fireball will, on an equally meta build 🤔

[silver jacinth]

I enjoy reading this conversation tyvm, you both have a valid point

[brave sigil]

in like yellow/red maps

[neat summit]

To be fair fireball is really rough ... Unless you do that ignite build with it

[brave sigil]

idk haha

[neat summit]

And then your not really playing fireball

It just became a vehicle to start ignites

[brave sigil]

oh really? i havent used fireball in a bit i just picked the first example i thought of

[neat summit]

Lol

[brave sigil]

but i guess it kills packs slower, tbf

idk lol, it depends on a lot

[neat summit]

Ye we usually skip fireball any chance we get kek ... Rolling magma is just right there

XD

[brave sigil]

rolling magma is goated

[neat summit]

The better fireball

[brave sigil]

i have to stop myself from using it every time

[neat summit]

Once you get used to aiming xD

[brave sigil]

i pick it up in the campaign and i'm like welllll maybe i make a rolling magma build this league...

lol

Purity of elements is also very hard for me to put down

its just so nice

[neat summit]

Same ... Really good temporary buff until you get everything sorted

Covers a good bit of res ... And gives freeze immunity until you get your own

Probably better than slapping on determination/grace early on

Even prenerf

[brave sigil]

yeah for sure. I'd use a 50% aura for freeze immunity alone

[neat summit]

I mean if all you care about is freeze immunity wear arctic armour

35% buff that does the same

[brave sigil]

that's trueee

[neat summit]

Lel

[brave sigil]

But then its like, 15% for everything else

which isnt bad either

haha

I'm not sure what to start next league

[neat summit]

Me either ... Possibly elementalist but I don't know what

[brave sigil]

i kinda wanna go champion and just stack all the % less damage taken stuff. fortification, infused channeling, maybe an enfeeble aura

the main appeal being resistance to mean map mods

[neat summit]

Yeeee it will work

[brave sigil]

less armour/evasion/suppression? pfft who cares

still immortal

who needs other defensive layers

that can be stripped away

[neat summit]

Don't get the entire channeling archetype killed again

[brave sigil]

I strive for map mod immunity

[neat summit]

Lol

accuracy stacking cyclone jug owo

[brave sigil]

I havent made a stat stacker before

i really want to

[neat summit]

I don't even know if it would work I'm just throwing words out there kek

[brave sigil]

not sure whats ssf friendly other than like ES stuff

rf/archmage kinda. idk if those are really "stackers" though

[neat summit]

Fire res stacker owo

That new ring should work on RF

[brave sigil]

nah

rf doesnt hit so it cant penetrate

unfortunately

[neat summit]

Oh ye true

deds

[brave sigil]

bro tried to sabotage my league start 😔

[neat summit]

Lol

Fire convert cyclone chieftain owo

Steal jug passive with F/F later

[brave sigil]

I've never gotten matching F/F jewels in ssf :(

i tried once

[neat summit]

Me either kek

Well I did get the stupid brick jewels from deadeye

Wind ward kek

[brave sigil]

I miss the raider

permanent unconditional phasing made me happy

[prime tree]

did they say that the mercenaries you can talk to/challenge will be in every zone in 3.26?

[signal goblet]

this champion change for mercenary league, the 3% attack speed per fortify above 20, isnt this like, terrible/fake?
it completely requires an item do to anything otherwise its an entire node giving u like, what, 12% attack speed?

[signal goblet]

they didnt say it but its a league mechanic so i assume so

[waxen lake]

i think they did, they said there is one in every area

[neat summit]

Yes

[neat summit]

It's terrible but it's better than what used to be there

[signal goblet]

its a shame
i wish we got something better
or maybe theres some proper support for fortify stackings omewhere

[neat summit]

Also maybe it's not too bad ... You can get 6 from the tree to start out

That's 18% armour evasion and attack speed

[signal goblet]

isnt that atrocious for an entire lab

[neat summit]

And there's like 10 more from a piece of gear

I forget where tho

So 16 over 20

[prime tree]

can't wait to check an entire set of gear for something worthwhile every zone then.

[neat summit]

Its gonna always be garbage

[ivory perch]

we have worse ones on other ascendancies.

[neat summit]

Also the 2 defense passives are a more multiplier

[prime tree]

special mods exclusive to the mercenary gear and allegedly "better rolled, because mercs also craft their gear"

[neat summit]

3% more armour and evasion

Not increased

[neat summit]

Ye that's just ggg trying to sell their league

Don't get excited or you'll be disappointed

Always

[prime tree]

i'm the opposite of excited for checking a full set of gear each map. but the shown special mods are pretty strong and the gear isn't marked with an icon or anything to indicate that it has a special mod

[neat summit]

Lol

[neat summit]

As long as we get the new supports they use it will all be worth it

Uwu

[ionic wagon]

Yeah maybe you smart ppl can figure out a champ build

20 if you do focus mod, 30 if you do gloves. So that’s
50% less dmg taken from hits
nearby enemies take 25% increased phys dmg
90% more armor/ev
90% increased attack speed
?

is the math I got rn

but idk how to pob lol I suck at it

+10 from passives and lethal pride for that ^

and +50% increased as from gloves

[bitter python]

can we target farm t16 enhanced maps? for example only jungle valleys?

im not sure if i didnt understand how they drop

[prime tree]

all they said in the reveal is that you can find them after defeating the 3 pinnacle bosses, but not where or how they drop exactly. maybe they mentioned something in the Q&A, but i haven't watched that

[timid garnet]

ed + ct, bane or soulrend, which of these can actually take on t17.(trickster btw)

[signal owl]

Should I purchase a crimson jewel with corrupted blood immunity or pray I can get one by vaal my crimson jewels?

[tawny pasture]

b oth

[signal owl]

[loud rock]

Just pick up all jewels

And corrupt them

[worldly geyser]

Guys what the difference between the secrets of the atlas league and the mercenaries league are they the same? Do i have to pick one?

[sonic field]

secrets is not a league

[prisma latch]

Does it start at 1pm pacific or 4pm?

[worldly geyser]

Yeah that makes sense i was confused as f*ck to why they have 2 leagues this time lol

[golden urchin]

secrets of the atlas is the name of the expansion, mercenaries is the name of the league, thats basically it

its just that 3.25 was Settlers league, while the expansion was called Settlers of Kalguur, so they just happened to share names

[dusk drum]

No?

[golden urchin]

ok what was the expansion and league name for 3.25?

[cunning blade]

i dont think 3.25 had an expansion

just a league

[final iris]

3.25 was just league, not expansion

Expansions generally have the word Atlas in them

And rework the entire endgame

[cunning blade]

expansions are separate from leagues and show up alongside a league as well yea

War for the Atlas, Conquerors, Echos, Siege and now Secrets

[golden urchin]

they refer to it as the Settlers of Kalguur expansion in a few places, expansions aren't just the "Atlas" expansions

The challenge leagues can have names different to the expansion names themselves

[dusk drum]

Google expansions

For poe fam

[golden urchin]

For example, Trial of the Ancestors vs Affliction league

[dusk drum]

No

Something atlas is the expansion

[golden urchin]

So you're saying 3.25 was not an expansion, yes?

[dusk drum]

No

League

[eager root]

give usss the patchhh notess

[high fossil]

Lol, no

[golden urchin]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3531661

[cunning blade]

[golden urchin]

thank you for your time

[cunning blade]

dont we already have patch notes

[eager root]

dose are not the patch notes i want the other ones they are suppuse to give us

[cunning blade]

3.26?

or different

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3787013/page/1

[eager root]

naaa they said soemtime this week or next with the scarabs the skills more stuff about merceanrys

[cunning blade]

oh

[dusk drum]

?

[cunning blade]

yea thats next week

[golden urchin]

yeah it'll take a while for full patch notes

they said they're making changes still

[golden urchin]

?

[cunning blade]

like new gems and stuff are only revealed in the week leading up to release

[golden urchin]

do you have anything to say other than a question mark?

[dusk drum]

Where does it say expansion

So i sont have to read from top to bottom

[golden urchin]

in the link?

press Ctrl+F

and type in "expansion"

then press enter

it will highlight it on the page

[dusk drum]

No thanks

Basicly ure wrong

[eager root]

i wanna know the scarabs and the special Skill abilitys mercenarys have

[golden urchin]

very low quality ragebait

[dusk drum]

League

[golden urchin]

No?

[eager root]

hmh

[golden urchin]

they'll release the details over the next week

[dusk drum]

Nah u wrong

[golden urchin]

so just gotta wait a bit

[eager root]

secrets of atlas are just an expansion i think and the league it self its the mercenarys

[feral stratus]

Any kb users i can interact with kb deadeye

[light glade]

Elementalist Golemancer Analysis

Shared for both old and new setup

Items

• Primordial Eminence (30% Effect) x 2
• Primordial Harmony
• Anima Stone (+1 Max Golems)

Passives

• Golem Commander (80% Effect, + 1 Max Golems)

Other

• All Golem Skill Gems have 20% Quality for 20% Effect

Total Effect per Golem: 160%

Old setup

Items

• The Primordial Chain (+3 Max Golems)

Passives

• Elemancer (25% Effect per Golem, +1 Max Golems)
• Liege of the Primordial (100% Effect, + 1 Max Golems)

Total Effect per Golem: 460%
Total number of Golems: 8

            Baseline                With Effect
----------------------------------------------------------
Chaos       5% Phys Reduction       28% Phys Reduction

Flame       20% Inc Damage          112% Inc Damage

Ice         30% Inc Crit Chance     168% Inc Crit Chance
            30% Inc Accuracy        168% Inc Accuracy
                
Lightning   9% Inc A & C Speed      50.4% Inc A & C Speed

Stone       105 Life per Second     588 Life per second

New setup

Passives

• Liege of the Primordial (100% Effect, + 2 Max Golems)

Total Effect per Golem: 260%
Total number of Golems: 5

            Baseline                With Effect
----------------------------------------------------------
Chaos       17% Chaos Res           61.2% Chaos Res
            16% DOT Multi           57.6% DoT Multi
                 
Flame       29% Inc Damage          104.4% Inc Damage
            20% Inc AOE             72% Inc AoE
                 
Ice         40% Inc Crit Chance     144% Inc Crit Chance
            420 Accuracy            1512 Accuracy
                
Lightning   10% Inc A & C Speed     36% Inc A & C Speed
            18 Mana per Second      64.8 Mana per Second
                
Stone       105 Life per Second     378 Life per Second
            20% Inc Defences        72% Inc Defences

Golem Changes Summary

            Lost                       Gained
--------------------------------------------------------------
Chaos       28% Phys Reduction         61.2% Chaos Res
                                       57.6% DoT Multi

Flame       7.6% Inc Damage            72% Inc AoE

Ice         24% Inc Crit Chance        1,512 Accuracy
            168% Inc Accuracy

Lightning   14.4% Inc A & C Speed      64.8 Mana per Second

Stone       210 Life per Second        72% Inc Defences

Key takes

• The only big downside is the lost %-Phys Reduction, and potentially the lost Life per Second
• The Increased Defences may (partly) make up for some of the lost %-Phys Reduction
  • Gaining Chaos Res will also help with survive-ability overall
• New setup is less rigid, allowing the use of a real amulet
  • Additional upside being your Golems don't have %-Less Life, reducing how often they die
  • As long as a golem is alive you get the full bonus, rather than it yoyo-ing from other golems dying

[signal goblet]

im almost certainly at this point either doing some arcane surge effect stacking fellow
or ignite prolif channel

[sterile brook]

Don't forget about the new elementalist ascendancy node that gives you a bunch of phys as fire, which can help replace the physical reduction

The Shaper of Flames Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer has 25% more Damage with Ignites you inflict with Hits for which the highest Damage Type is Fire. Instead, it now causes Enemies Ignited by you to convert 40% of their Physical Damage to Fire.

If you can take this and consistently ignite, 40% of physical as fire is equivalent to 30% physical reduction at 75% fire resistance

[agile lion]

I'm pretty sure it's now more worth to go Necromancer and pick the Golemancer Forbidden Jewels later on, rather than Elementalist all the way. Current elementalist as a golemancer feels like the current Bleed bow Glad', there's not much to pick, in fact, there's not enough

[jagged marsh]

golems support for melee/cast/dot/crit build ideas?

• regen/mana regen/defences/ immune to melee damage?

[stone nimbus]

Anyone have some good heist guides? It’s a mechanic I have never done but pretty interested although I’m sure betrayal mapping will be better now.

Seems like TR PF is the go to for Heist, but I’ll play it but sheesh I dread Ranger builds

[candid plinth]

how do you add things to the marketplace?

[golden urchin]

there's two ways, the easy way requires a premium stash tab. If you have one, you can make it public (right click the tab name and tick the Public checkbox), then any items placed in there can be right clicked to set a price (usually in chaos orbs or divine orbs)

the more annoying way is if you don't have a premium stash tab, you can make a forum post. Unfortunately i don't know how that works, so hopefully someone else can help with that

[candid plinth]

premium tabs cost real money?

[golden urchin]

If you mean how to use the currency exchange through faustus, then the UI in there should allow you to place buy orders and sell orders

[golden urchin]

yep

but there is a stash tab sale every 3 weeks, you just missed the last one I think

!tabs

[drifting thicket]

Stash tab sale when?
Generally, stash tabs are on sale every three weeks starting the second weekend of the league - the subreddit has an estimated stash tab sale day in the sidebar

How do I get points?
Purchasing the First Blood starter pack is recommended, as it has 200 points, a stash tab, and a weapon effect
||https://www.pathofexile.com/purchase#FirstBloodPack||
Alternatively, supporter packs are more cost effective than individual points, and give you extra stuff too.

Which ones do I get?
Recommended first tabs are:

• Currency Tab
• Upgrade to Premium (easier to list your items for trade)
• Map tab (after finishing the campaign)
• Fragment tab (after finishing the campaign)

_ And then what?_
If you're focusing on something specific eg. essence farming, picking up the essence tab might be a good investment. The same goes for the divination, and other specialized tabs, like delirium or delve. However, you may find you can handle things with a combination of regular tabs or a quad tab (and the extra storage space doesn't hurt either)

[golden urchin]

more info here ^

[bronze mural]

any expectations for the upcomming league starter builds?

[candid plinth]

oh this game...
I'm on a fixed income now. due to a work place accident. I can't afford that.
this game is killing me. I dont understand how to improve on my build and when I do get help which i am grateful for the but other players dont speak they just carry me thru then leave.

[zinc oxide]

I dont really know because i think it will depend a lot on runes and what new gems you can get from mercenaries

[golden urchin]

you can ask for help regarding your build in #1┃after-acts-help

you need to provide more details about your build though, starting with skills you're using, your defences (elemental resistances, armour, etc), your passive tree

stuff like that

[bronze mural]

ohh right

[haughty oracle]

so are the mercs perma hired, or only for one map ?

[mint vigil]

perma

unless they die, then you have to revive them with gold

[haughty oracle]

wow so they realy are like Diablo 2 mercs, thats great !

[wind totem]

With the changes to scarabs from the map device, do you guys think it will be possible to fully sustain the most common scarabs for any given league mechanic? I am really tempted to play SSF, but my biggest issue with it has ALWAYS been that I can't really juice maps reliably with whatever mechanic I feel like farming at the time.

[obsidian marlin]

Yea I guess betrayal and expedition could get your scarabs but it’s still random

[pastel void]

they wont level though turbo

youll have to replace em

[obsidian marlin]

I’m not sure anyone sustains endless scarab mapping, without trade

[golden urchin]

i reckon it'll be a bit better than last league since you use fewer points for more focused scarab chance, but yeah in ssf it's not possible to 100% sustain. You probably will still have to set side scarab farming sessions in t17s (that tree would be the same as your farming tree but we as much scarab chance as possible and with whatever notables you've you more rarer varieties, if that exists), and then go back to your main tree to farm the content

i think t17s still be the best place to farm then anyway, but if the new memory thread t16s are just as good, it'll be much easier to do that

[wind totem]

mmm yeah I thought so

it's a shame, cause I don't mind having to grind specific items I need for however long, but I need to be able to do the mechanics I love (and juice them to a degree) to do so

will think on it, we'll see

[blazing sail]

that's ~20% of the mod pool, very nice

[zinc oxide]

I think this is fine for attack damage players, but my question is: does spell players use resistance modifers on weapons in some way?

[limpid basin]

unless theyre in the campaign, no

no serious build ever wants resistances on their weapons

[hot quail]

this is more than fine for attack dmg players, this is HUGE for weapon crafting

[dapper mesa]

Is merc league separate from main league

[sterile nova]

No.

[zinc oxide]

Its weird...is like they took half a league with half and expansion and set it together at the same time

[dusk drum]

Wait wont be likr aura bot merc the best?

[high fossil]

Big expansion usually means smaller league mechanic, so people don't have to navigate too much new content at once

Secrets stuff is probably more impactful on the endgame than we realise

[sterile nova]

Yes, for most ppl, the mercenaries will be a more obvious league mechanic, while the very end game stuff is waiting there. Most would call this the merc-league.

[pastel void]

ah boo if they have a 5 link its not a 5 link gear

its just skill gem link not on the actual gear

[solid oak]

Its good for giving them gear though

What's everyone's thoughts on the starcaller axe?

[pastel void]

depends how strong is starfall

[eager root]

me will mainly use them as an Auraaa slavee

[solid oak]

Yeah exactly

[high fossil]

Looks sweet, actual play depends on the numbers of the granted skill

Which we don't know yet

But i want one anyway

[solid oak]

Yeh lol

[eager root]

Any free aruas its so big tbh

[solid oak]

I wanted to go cyclone coc soulrend of the Reaper but idk if that axe is great for it

But I want it so bad 😅

[high fossil]

If the skill is trash then i will farm t2 maps and look fantastic doing it

[solid oak]

Yeh lol I mainly just wanna have fun this league and try my own thing

[verbal crest]

We need more data on starfall to figure out if the axe is going to be good becuase if you rewatch the demo in the video, you will actually see cyclone is killing the vast majority of the mobs before the startfall hit, so we have no real idea how much dmg the startfall portion actually does or if the demo was just carried by cyclone itself

[zinc oxide]

Secrets of the atlas comes to replace alva, einhar, niko and kirac memories

[limber turret]

trading for aurabot mercenary

[solid oak]

Yeah true, it just looks fun af

[grim basalt]

This is good tho. Means I don't need to socket armour and weps and can give them the cheapest baller uniques.

[pastel void]

true

[mint vigil]

can you swap support gems on mercs?

[high fossil]

We've not seen anything that suggests you can. Their gear doesn't have gems in it, and their skill panel at the bottom doesn't seem accessible

Pretty sure their skill loadout is like their passives: if you want it to be different, find a different merc and hire them instead

[mint vigil]

yea seems like it

[pastel void]

pretty sure you cant no

they said certain mercs will be meta so doubt it

[prime tree]

can only the map owner hire them? Or everyone in the party could hire a "copy" of the merc you encounter in a map?

[tame dragon]

do they ever update pob to have some of the new league patch notes before a league drops?

[prime tree]

ye

https://github.com/grindinggear no preview json yet tho and no complete gem info i think, so not much to update for now besides a few things here or there

[tame dragon]

ye mainly just ascendancy changes

[gritty basin]

So looking at the patch notes for the upcomming league, one of the Atlas changes reads The Intelligence Gathering Notable Atlas Passive has been replaced with the new Lethal Extraction Notable, which causes Executing Immortal Syndicate Members in your Maps to grant intelligence to their current division equal to 2 times their Rank.

I was about to say it's trash, but that should mean you can get 6 intel per member, and I think the most I've ever seen from one encounter was 4 members... if that's affected by the Betrayal scarab for additional intel, I think that would mean 15 intel per member. Which should mean - in theory - a max of 60 intel per encounter

Combine that with making all the other houses rivals, it should be feasible to put the 5 members you want in one house, make everyone else hate them, and probably be able to run a safehouse between every map

Since IIRC there's a "betray" option for rivals that gives intel for the rival house

[dusk drum]

RF champion possible?

[velvet yarrow]

sure its possible but not good at all

[high fossil]

If Pohx says it's possible, i'll believe it. At a glance Champ defenses seem to be mostly about hit mitigation rather than DoT, so i don't really see it working well

[paper stirrup]

the cast when stun chieftain seem to have survived right? didnt get a chance to try that one

[limpid basin]

dd of chain react got nerfed

[paper stirrup]

hmm i see

[velvet yarrow]

still alive

and the new fire res ring i think should work really well with cws

[jagged saffron]

genuine question, is elementalist wave of conviction ignite kinda dead with rework elementalist acsendacy nodes?

[neat summit]

they got the poe2 buff that we didnt get

[neat summit]

probably worse whispering ice

[summer sundial]

yes

[jagged saffron]

thought so

[merry anchor]

thats a nerf

[neat summit]

lol

[summer sundial]

poe2 gem system is worse than poe1

especially in endgame

[hexed sluice]

is there a way to see new updated ascendancies? like in a planner or did someone put them together in a picture with their locations?

[signal goblet]

Chieftan using RF and ARF(arcane devotion) gets 24% more cast speed, 40% more spell damage, hinekora explodes, and ~90% all resist with a pretty simple/cost effective itemless setup)

Theres no reason for it to be a degen since we'd waste the cast speed
and theres no need for it to be fire (we could use avatar of fire potentialy), but it would likley either be fire or physical

what skills could be considered here?
bladefall bladeblast
blade vortex
incinerate?(does incinerate of expanse "charge faster" due to the more cast speed?)
purifying flame?

[plush marsh]

would kingmaker be good on the new mercs

[limpid basin]

yes

it would also be very expensive

[real osprey]

Its probably going to be really expensive this league

[woven steppe]

sorry whats this mechanic about a merc?

[violet nymph]

Are the Ele changes from Witch are good or bad ? ^^

[sterile brook]

Check the content reveal at 15:00 for more examples as well

#poe1-news message

[verbal crest]

I have actually been thinking about this and I think its going to highly depend on the behavior of the mercs. Kingmaker has a very small "nearby" radius and AG you can build and manipulate to stay in range of you but you have less control over mercs. I think some people might be pretty surprised how small the radius is and how often their mercs will be out of range

[woven steppe]

holy shit it looks so fkn good

[tight crow]

do we know if mercs use skills from items that grants them?

[eager root]

where i see thats comingg

[pastel void]

@prime tree Laate but I imagine whatever option the party leader choos es you gt or can abstain from

[woven steppe]

i hate this part, the decision..

fuck, pconc? lol

[violet nymph]

play what make fun. 🙂

[cosmic hill]

Where are they sticking these gems

[devout osprey]

i hope they dont need sockets

[pastel void]

idk maybe there culture has a weird device

[brave sigil]

perquil's toe is gonna be crazy too

"Nearby Allies' Damage with Hits is Lucky"

[sterile brook]

hmm? Not sure what you are asking

[merry anchor]

conner put out a vid on getting your AG and Merc to survive hard content

Like specifically the gear he used and had it survive 2k delve with double added ele mod

[exotic forum]

@cosmic hill to be fair, if you're able to replace what they have with something new and keep what they had. Then a mercenary having a five link skill would have it snatched up by a player to use or sell as a five link

And the way they did it instead prevents people from being able to do that

[pastel void]

you dont get to keep what you replace

It goes away into the void

unless it was yours

[cosmic hill]

???????

[edgy nimbus]

Will mercs help you fight other mercs?

[pastel void]

probally not

[empty sparrow]

You guys think the new pinnacles are Eater/Exarch power level, or Maven?

[pastel void]

id say maven

but they have quest versions so

[warped mountain]

i need a necro build

for 3.26

[solid oak]

GhazzyTV on youtube is probably the main guy for necro builds

just bought the sacred cryptkeeper pack and its not on poe2 rip lol

[hot quail]

We dont know. Yes?

[prime tree]

people gonna be selling mercs then on TFT if there'll be (rare) meta mercs

[vital ledge]

isn't golem commander 40%?, why 80?

[prime tree]

2 small nodes leading up to golem commander give 20% each

[vital ledge]

Oooh, my bad

Ty

[silver cave]

i feel like i im going to have so many questions with mercs since they are more like player than minion

• do trigger skills on equipment work on them (e.g. corpsewalk)
• can they gain e.g. rage, rampage and stuff

(no i definetly dont want dancing dervish to work on them xdd)

[harsh bone]

1- no
2- Probably?

We know they cannot use skills from equipment just like AG
But they will likely be able to generate charge or other mechanics with their skills from equipments

[severe plume]

are you limited to only 1 type of rune ?

or can i stack these for 100%?

[smoky geyser]

If say the 3 zana bosses are prob as hard as sirus/t17 and the final boss is like uber maven tier

[smoky geyser]

Read the last line... Wait... Huh.... I mean i goes it stacks?

You'd need 4 notables for sexblast though it dies free a ring slot which can be huge

Mercs seem like an ag that won't level with you, just use them as rogue exiles 2

Defibitly a singletarget league

[gritty basin]

I believe they said during the Q&A that it was limited to one of each rune

[candid plinth]

I hate these Fing maps

[alpine sierra]

Do we know if we still get betrayal safehouse rewards in Catarina fight?

[eager root]

u whud only need 1

[mint vigil]

is kingmaker buffs stackable? eg: If I have a kingmaker on merc and a kingmaker on spectre do I now have +20 max fort while in range?

[prime tree]

don't think they said anything, but i'd assume no and to make up for it they buff regular safehouse rewards

[eager root]

u need to get the boss key and kill that to get rewards

[severe plume]

Wasn't my question

[eager root]

why u even need 100% big waste of mastery nodes

[prime tree]

the syndicate medallion looks tradeable, so i doubt that your board will have any effect on the rewards it gives

[severe plume]

Im just asking if that's possible

[eager root]

truee so u can props just constantly farm the boss lol

[sterile brook]

It is not, you can only have one of each type of rune graft, as it says in the item

[severe plume]

ty

[royal dove]

Are there any new skills in 3.26 other than the two listed in the PoE website?

[edgy nimbus]

For sure more trarthan versions of gems

They dont list every new unique either

[ionic wagon]

kingmaker isnt max fort

[limpid basin]

not that we know the stats of

but there certainly many more

just have to wait for them to be revealed

[royal dove]

@limpid basin Yeah I rewatched the trailer and there are quite a few new ones, but no tooltip yet

[limpid basin]

also i dont remember if they showed different ones on the reveal

you can double check that yeah

[proper pendant]

so , what are you guys planning to play in this new league ?

[dapper mesa]

Sanctum 🙂

[mint vigil]

ah yea, I read the desc of the wep wrong

[plush robin]

hype

[barren gorge]

Do we know if the mercenary can have curse skill gems and if they would count towards our curse limit?

[gleaming zodiac]

i wonder if the mercenary getting hit in sanctum would take away some of your resolve 🤔 seems like an easy way to do sanctum you let your merc do all the work 🤣

[prime tree]

there's a screenshot of a merc with poacher's mark. I'd assume curse limit would work like with your AG.

[dapper mesa]

Pretty sure one of the mercs has elemental weakness

[digital horizon]

Is there a build that can run Sanctum and map at the same time, even if it's slow, without dying 100 times? Obviously in early

[dapper mesa]

Not really lol

Sanctum is a zhp build like no defences with single target dps being the focus. It’s super specialized

Not getting hit so you kill them first type of thing

You’re also not gonna want to kill kitava because you’ll have to find 30 all res on a unique heavy build

[digital horizon]

Yes i know but hexblast can sanctum and mapping, but bow ggg killed it

[dapper mesa]

Yeah it could lol before they gutted the skill to be just unplayable in any manner

[golden urchin]

theres many skills that are good for sanctum that can also be good for maps, but if you build for both, then u wont be running sanctum as fast, that's about it

SRS, penance brand of dissipation both come to mind

anything that clears a whole screen / from off screen will be good

[dapper mesa]

Most skill can technically do sanctum and map at a certain point

But a character that can do sanctum early on is not gonna have the greatest time mapping, but it is possible you’re just gonna have to adjust your build around it

[opaque heath]

No the merc is its own entity

[opaque heath]

Sanctum is nerfed if u already didn't know

[digital horizon]

what did they do to him?

[tight crow]

do we know if full mf + gravebinds merc is a thing?

[prime tree]

afaik they only said they nerfed it, but haven't revealed what they have done.

[queen cedar]

we don't know for sure but I would expect probably yes on the first question, and definitely yes on the second

curse limit is shared between all sources trying to curse the same monster, we know this from minions and party play. no reason mercs should be different

[dapper mesa]

Might be nerfed ****

[prime tree]

https://youtu.be/caeh4G_WhH8?t=3312 Mark talking about them making changes to sanctum

[dapper mesa]

Nothing definitive yet

Could be something small or could kill it

That’s why **

[glossy stone]

we back?

[exotic forum]

Technically speaking... it is impossible for any build to run sanctum and map at the same time because they require you to be in entirely different areas.

[violet nymph]

What i dont understand why their do this ? Frost Blades: Projectiles now deal 30% less Damage with Hits and Ailments.

[limpid basin]

consistency

so when strike skills have projectile portions they consistently deal less damage

[violet nymph]

i mean the normal frost blades are in singel completly dog water or ? and and the only thing what this skill can is aoe and theior nerf aoe now is this skill absolute shit ? (sry bad english) ^^

[odd gate]

get em bloon

[gritty basin]

Dumb question. We're still using the POB Community Fork as the unofficial-but-community-standard planning tool, yeah? I haven't done much theory crafting since the early days of Settlers

[limpid basin]

i mean i think it was okay before

[limpid basin]

nothing is official (sponsored by ggg) but yeah it is absolutely the standard

[limpid basin]

so now it's just... bad...

[gritty basin]

Copy that, thanks Bloon! Now to wait impatiently for the updates to PoB so I can start tinkering 😄

[violet nymph]

hmm ok beserker new notes are make this skill very interesting. 😄

[digital horizon]

Hexblast mine ES attribute stacker can, but its mega nerfed

[balmy moss]

lightning tendrils

[outer sun]

Frost blade's clear was consistently nerfed over the years so you generally don't want to play it these day for clear itself. The old days of Fight for Survival are long gone

[static geyser]

what is there in terms of good builds similar to how ice nova of frostbolt hierophant plays?

for a ranged spell caster with good clear speed and decent single target

i want to feel like a diablo 2 sorc

[sonic field]

there is a trans vortex that works basically the same

also cast from frostbolt

[static geyser]

does not necessarily have yo be a carbon copy to that build, in terms of auto cast and sort of cascading

but i do want the d2 sorc kind of feeling

[sonic field]

thats still prob the next best thing you will get

[static geyser]

mobile spell slinger clear master

[sonic field]

self cast is not in a good state currently

[static geyser]

i see

and what is this trans vortex thing

[sonic field]

you can just google vortex, wiki has buttons to change between normal and transfigured/vaal versions

[static geyser]

i also saw some video on lightning conduit elementalist?

at least it looked cool

[sonic field]

its one of few spell builds that could be playable

well maybe playable is too strong here

feel good fits better

[static geyser]

it certainly looked like it would feel good

but it didn't give me any good measurement of power

the video that is

vortex of projection? @sonic field

[odd gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AcSLwHHL-w

first build in the vid

[sonic field]

yes

[static geyser]

thought they nerfed the whole mana stacking deal

archmage that is

[sonic field]

they did, but it was very strong anyway, the dmg nerf is not a huge deal, you just need to may more attention to mana sustain

[static geyser]

he isnt using kitava though

my laptop gonna suffer with that build

looks right down my alley though, if not maybe even too similar to last league

[brave sigil]

so are golems mandatory this league or not actually that good?

[flat obsidian]

is there any content creator that does like a list of builds for new players to play on league start ?

[odd gate]

maxroll and zizaran will be your best resources, they'll be posting updated guides in the upcoming days

[flat obsidian]

@odd gate ty found like pohx and ghazzy but they cover builds that dont really excite me.
i found magefist, Flicker strike looks great but i have no clue whats happening

[static geyser]

CaptainLance aint bad either

[odd gate]

flicker strike is heavily discouraged as a league starter for newer players, you'll die an insane amount and do not very much damage
it's a fun second build when you have gear, but i do recommend picking a more standard league starter to play first

[brave sigil]

pohx makes the best beginner guides by far

just kinda unfortunate it's rf only

[flat obsidian]

@odd gate yes i thought it looked very squishy and unpredictable, thats why im asking 😄
@static geyser tyvm for the recommendation
@brave sigil yes, very easy to understand, the build just looks, "inactive"

[static geyser]

so how likely is it we will be able to make mercenary aura bots?

some people seem to think it is very unlikely mercenaries will be able to use skills gained from items

imagine slapping something like doryani boots on a merc and have it work

that would be pretty OP

[flat obsidian]

what are you guys starting ?

[static geyser]

no idea

[warm sail]

IMFUBGUN

[ebon goblet]

anyone gonna use their merc to generate some charges of somekind?

[pastel void]

cant wait for my bosses to steal my charges

[proven cosmos]

question.. do we know if the mercs are bound to character, or to account?
i assume to character.. i doubt we can use a lvl 80+ merc to carry an alt on campaign.... GGG wouldnt allow that... right?

[gleaming zodiac]

that's a good question 🤣 also the point you bring is also a good point... it's most likely bound to character because of that 😅

if it's bound to account that'll be great for alt tho hahaha

[proven cosmos]

i was thinking about it because somebody mentioned that how would they look for high lvl mercs with a aurabot if they couldnt carry themselfs.. so i was like "you grab them with the main and then with the aurabo.... wait a minute"

[gleaming zodiac]

unless there's a level requirement to use them but then that would be dumb as well since you'd have to get rid of your high level mercs if you make a alt

[proven cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/think-winnie-the-pooh-thinking-pooh-think-think-think-gif-7743943814219302717

[proven cosmos]

it would be amazing if we could just do that...

[royal dove]

One of the mercenaries that GGG showed in the trailer had a Earthquake of Winter skill on him. Can we take that skill for ourselves if we win the duel, or are we limited to the specific Tarthrus gems that GGG created for the league?

[spare mesa]

Anyone planning on saboteur start?

[paper stirrup]

is it known at what part of the campaign or maps will we get to recruit mercs?

[gleaming zodiac]

there's few skill with weird name on the mercenaries i don't think we'll be able to get all of them 🤔

[gleaming zodiac]

in every area

[paper stirrup]

i see so straight out of lioneyes

[gleaming zodiac]

that's the league mechanic it always been in every area when it's the main mechanic i don't see why it would be different here and yeah in the Q&A they talk about it being in mudflats and iirc it's also mentioned to be in every area

[paper stirrup]

alright then im aurabotting for my merc

[gleaming zodiac]

i want that skill 😏

[gleaming zodiac]

i thought about it to be fair early... depending on how powerful they are lol

[paper stirrup]

its kinda crazy the things you can do with just 2 nebulis

[exotic forum]

How is that build specifically able to be in two different areas at the same time

🙃

[nimble hedge]

9 power charge Uber elder

[main temple]

whats the max auras you can stack on mercs anyway?

[gritty basin]

From what I understand, you can't change the skills on a Merc. Jury's out on if they can use skills added by gear, but as far as the skill gems, it's straight RNG/presets from what I've seen

I wonder what they'll do about stat requirements... is it just assumed that a merc always has the stats required for an item?

[ebon goblet]

i think they actually have stats and skills trees filled in by ggg. so you would need to see what thier stats are

[gritty basin]

That would be awesome, but also such a pain to work with IMO

Well, depending on the variety/how it's presented, I guess

[pastel void]

I assume stat reqs wont be a merc thing

[gritty basin]

I saw someone saying 30 archetypes, which feels high - but then, 25 would mean one of every ascendency. That's already a potentially extremely overwhelming amount of information

[hasty perch]

No stat req means merc carries blunderbore

[strange wind]

anyone have recommendations on a league starter for someone whos only played one league so far (phrecia)? was thinking riteous fire since there are leveling guides for that as well (poxh)

[nimble hedge]

Phrecia willl be a bit different since the tuning and the idols etc were crazy. I would suggest RF 100%. My last 3/4 league starts have been RF and its been flawless.

[strange wind]

that something that you utilize to farm stuff in endgame for a different build eventually to push more endgame content or is it pretty viable to continue into endgame?

[nimble hedge]

I have farmed all 4 stones on RF but usually just pay someone for the elder and maven stones (I dont like doing bosses ) I usually only reroll off of my RF build once I have farmed my mageblood or the currency for a new build. RF can do anything that doesnt require a specific build (Sanctum). I would just suggest against doing bossing as a focus or ubers though.

[alpine magnet]

Can someone explain me the shipping boats nerf from kingmarch in 3.26?

[golden urchin]

we have no idea yet, need to wait for more details or for next patch to release to test things out

[gritty basin]

The "nerf" is that the shipping time is longer, but IIRC they said rewards have been scaled to compensate. Also there's no building Kingsmarch now, so in theory it's just immediately available (buff, not nerf)

*and I guess the Runes being changed is a sorta nerf, since the Runegrafts are likely to be less powerful than the Runesmith'd enchants were. They aren't the focus on the league anymore, after all

That's like a boat-adjacent nerf, since the runes come from shipping

[balmy moss]

now wait a bloody second, are you telling me I can have a mercenary with 2 auras and curse on hit ring?

[tawny pasture]

maybe

we dont know their curse limit or if they share the same limit as you

[high fossil]

we've got to assume they'll apply their curses like anything else: up to their limit, default of 1, and remove any curses that would exceed that limit. So you'll need to raise their curse limit with gear if you want multiple, and not overwrite those with your own curses

[ember lodge]

I can't wait to level for once, I suspect new elementalist + golems is going to be absolutely disgusting in the campaign (cos you get it all after the first lab 😄 ).

[green oracle]

Are the tree Changes already posted?

[sonic field]

no

you'd see info on the news channel

[green oracle]

Any Date posted when that Happens?

[sonic field]

no

again you'd see info about that on the news channel

[green oracle]

[prime tree]

you can check their github https://github.com/grindinggear/skilltree-export

[green oracle]

Blind build IT IS then

[potent condor]

i dont think The new dude is Zana's brother i think its Sirus cus the whole expansion is about memmories and things

[woven steppe]

so really pconc is still great for atlas rushing?

[shadow lily]

They said in the stream that he was Zana's brother

[worldly horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/mask-gif-19018372

[prime tree]

isn't sirus' backstory already established as well?

[digital horizon]

You could scale more damage and sacrifice defenses but you used Hexblast of Contraduction, you used Energy Blade, you had good damage and you went with the capped defenses

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers/character/Orangecupcak-1328/sthanctum?i=9&search=skills%3DHexblast%2Bof%2BContradiction%26allskills%3DEnergy%2BBlade

[fierce nacelle]

Gonna go heist and beastiary league start so i get huck, einhar, and my mercenary

[winged skiff]

So does everyone get an aura bot now

With these mercenaries

[merry anchor]

no cause they have set skills

[loud rock]

just use pogface

and the cane

or kingmaker

[merry anchor]

these are items for an AG that stays by your side. your merc is gonna go ham. better to give it actual gear

[soft moat]

people can talk regarding someone as a "sister" or a "brother" as a form of respect

like people that have worked together before

or idk in some fantasy worlds if youre part of the same guild or house youre someone sibling but just a formal respect

if it makes sense

[limpid basin]

or

it means brother

like a brother

[thick rock]

does anyone know if totems immediately attack/cast their skill on summon or if they have to play a full animation?

[limpid basin]

there will be a delay between you pressing the skill and them casting/attacking

which is the time for you to summon them and for them to appear

but its not that long

[thick rock]

yes i know that

[misty rover]

which one ya'll think better for league start? champion or slayer cyclone?

[thick rock]

but do they have the summoning delay and then have to go through the attack/cast time for the skill?

[limpid basin]

play champ for somehing new

[thick rock]

or do they just attack once summoned

[limpid basin]

what's the difference

[misty rover]

ngl champion looks very fun to me specially cuz that's my favorite ascendency before it got gutted but the items and chase uniques around it will be expensive and idk if i wanna stand in that line

[limpid basin]

if they ever do attack/cast it will take time

[misty rover]

champion scales better but it'll probably be smoother to start off slayer? i'm just split on this

[thick rock]

break points for totem placement speed compared to attack speed

was thinking about the new version of siege ballista

[prime tree]

the one that fires once and then disappears? You could test it with very low attack speed setup vs. very high attack speed and see how long it takes for the first attack to go off.

there is an activation time that you can't modify between placing the totem and it attacking/casting. It wouldn't surprise me if attack speed would be completely meaningless for that fire-once-and-disappear ballista.

[thick rock]

yeah this is what im wondering

it could be an interesting build

dex stacking siege ballista where youre invested in just totem summoning speed

makes it a better all around build

but the activation time is the totem summoning speed which is modifiable

i just dont know if it does the activation time and then have to go through the attack animation

[whole tide]

Could someone pls ELI5 the difference between secrets of the atlas and mercenaries league?

[prime tree]

afaik there are 3 things. totem placement, which can be modified by totem placement and action speed, it's the time it takes you to put the totem down. that is followed by an activation time, this can not be modified. then comes attack/cast speed, but this might only matter if the totem/ballista attacks/cast more than once, hence my suggested test.

[prime tree]

secrets of the atlas is an "expansion", it's changes to the endgame and base game, eg. the memory stuff and new pinnacle bosses. this stuff is available in the permanent standard league as well.
mercenaries is the league mechanic and is only available in the temporary league that starts on friday.

the latter are the mercenaries you can encounter and hire/fight, get their gear with exclusive modifiers and there special gems.

[whole tide]

And everything from secrets of the atlas is also available in the mercenaries league?

[prime tree]

yes, as it is part of the base game

[whole tide]

Ok. Thanks a lot. Understood

[ornate bay]

How does Venom Gyre look as league start next season?

[whole tide]

I suppose everyone will play the mercenaries league right?

[gleaming grove]

yes

im waiting on trarthan gems before i do my pob, im between chaos dot and sst champ

[prime tree]

@thick rock https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Totem#Totem_skills

When a totem is placed it has a non-modifiable activation time. This activation happens between the totem being placed and the totem starting to cast. For Spell Totem Support this is 2/3 of a second or ~0.66 seconds.
Not sure what the activation time is on ballistas, so just the nodes from Hiero might already be overkill (~0.15s placement speed) and lead to overcasting your ballistas before they can get a shot off.

[thick rock]

well you can easily get to 20 max siege ballistas with iron commander

but the text you cited seems to imply that they also have to do the attack animation as well

[lone hedge]

When are the rest of the patch notes coming? Any ideas?

[thick rock]

i guess the breakpoint would be, having your totem summon speed be 1/5th to 1/6th of the total time it takes for the summoned totems to attack

[visual dock]

guys is there a way to make guardian smite work? like smite as main skill as guardian? or what are other options for smite other than champ? because everyone gonna play champ

[balmy moss]

guys, I think winter orb as main spell isn't a great idea

I'm gonna have my mercenary use it

[sonic field]

slayer could work ig, guardian isnt that good as a generic attacker, even inquis would be better prob

but also hard to beat champ here

with the 30% aura effect

[visual dock]

yeah wanted to consider aura stacker guardian with the new 50% reservation effecincy and maybe could also do decent dps with smite but thats probably bad idea

ya seems hard to beat champ

if i go inq ill probably just do caster energy blade at late game

[sonic field]

champ is also extremally easy in terms of defenses

[visual dock]

but idk what to start with

[sonic field]

max forti and stacked eva + armor are some good defensive layers

[visual dock]

champ is easy from start to end pretty much but everyone gonna play it

[visual dock]

endurance too becuse its going to be stacking endurance and frenzy with brotherhood

[sonic field]

tbh smite most likely wont be popular enough of a starter for that to matter, yes the gloves and replica badge will cost a bunch but you dont need them at all

[visual dock]

nah they aint that expensive

im not worried about that

i think champ is actually fairly cheap beofre you are going for +1 max frenzy implicit ring/shield

[sonic field]

the gloves will be costly tho

especially good rolled ones

since its an uber unique

[visual dock]

ehhh probably unless + 1 max frenzy only few divs

ive used them last league as slayer stacker of charges

[sonic field]

its uber only and forti rolls between 1 and 10

[visual dock]

i got +10+1 frenzy it was like.. 100 div

with +1 frenzy corruption

[sonic field]

they werent that expensive previously cuz they didnt have enough attention, now they will cost quite a bit

[visual dock]

fair

[sonic field]

same for badge

[visual dock]

but without corruption they wont be very expenive they are not very rare

badge will be more expenive than gloves

for sure

[sonic field]

popularity can drive prices quite high, in phrecia damn kaom signs were 20c for a bit

[visual dock]

im guessing guardian also doesnt work as caster its probably only good as pure sup?

altho i wonder about guardian mana stacker

it should do fair amount of dmg

[sonic field]

its good for elemental hit based minions

with relics

also the node before relics is very good for campaign

[visual dock]

fair

just looking for fun league start that can scale later champ seems kinda overwhelming better option than the rest

becuse its so easy to from start

[sonic field]

also rf it seems

but thats not a starter setup

[visual dock]

rf has no dmg

[sonic field]

also guardian was the least played asc in settlers lul

champion will have an insane jump tho, it was the second least played now it will go top 5 most likely

[visual dock]

yeah i guess i could start as inq caster then transfer into energy blade later tho im not sure i want to do attri stacker cause its soooo rough

[sonic field]

alternatively you can do trickster cuz the nerfs werent enough for the ee setup

[frank pike]

pconc pathfinder then specters (the builds have the same class and some of the expensive uniques are the same so you can transition from pconc easily)

[velvet yarrow]

you take that back!

[sonic field]

pf specters?

[frank pike]

ye

[visual dock]

how much RF gets? 50m dps? 60m?

[velvet yarrow]

RF gets about 1-4m dps but its the explodes that do all the work

Fire trap you can scale to 36m in an RF build

[sonic field]

thats more than enough for all content especially given the build's tankyness

[visual dock]

high investment RF with its second skill like trap capped at around 40-60m?

[velvet yarrow]

36m at high investment

[sonic field]

rf is capped at 36 mil as all dots are

[frank pike]

how tanky is RF?

[velvet yarrow]

very

[visual dock]

thats for my taste not enough dps ive played RF few times

[sonic field]

thats basically THE tank starter

but i agree rf is kinda zzz in the single target departament without giga budget

[visual dock]

its actually not as tanky as EBlade build.. not as tanky as the champ gonna be with frenzy+endurance stacker.. . not as tanky as armour stacker

[frank pike]

the pathfinder pconc guide i wanna follow has this at endgame (cuz permanent progenesis with 70% flask effect is broken), is RF tankier?

[visual dock]

while having 1/5 of their dmg? or less

[velvet yarrow]

its still very tanky

[sonic field]

but in context of starters its one of the tankiest

[sacred python]

im new, just 8hours in gamepley, its so hard and slow to lvl up

[visual dock]

yes for sure but it has no high scaling and im looking for something i can keep scale and i prefer stuff i havent played alot its why im avoid champ in settlers ive played frenzy +endurance stacker slayer

which is the same build basically

[frank pike]

uhh, you are in a poe1 channel but you only have poe2 role, you might be in the wrong channel?

[visual dock]

i minmaxed it with mirror rings and shield and what not but its jsut the same

[sonic field]

dont worry about it, its enough to be 2-3 lvls near the zone you are in to not trigger xp reduction, usually you are under not over depending on how much you bother killing mobs

[sacred python]

oh crap lol sorry

[eager root]

I see allot of builds about volcanic fissure and if I see fubgun doing a build for it must be good

[visual dock]

what of this is a conditional lifepool?

[sonic field]

its the new ls

[eager root]

looks stronger then old ls

he has 12mil on pob with trash gear xd

[visual dock]

its strong skill but more clunky

and slower

[sonic field]

it isnt, the build was just as viable in settlers

just less traction cuz ls

[velvet yarrow]

my RF has more EHP than that

and i have seen 2m ehp RF builds

[frank pike]

i mean permaflasks with PF, so only immortal call cwdt is conditional?

[eager root]

yeaa if it dosent work out il just reeoll to rf if slayer no work out

[visual dock]

maybe ES ones.. or during guard skill and stuff doesnt count

[eager root]

but I feel like rf won't be that good for new mega juiced up t16s and to slow

[velvet yarrow]

no regular RF

[frank pike]

ehp is a whack way of measuring tho

[velvet yarrow]

i know

its not reliable but it is a single number metric

[visual dock]

ya like no stuff like guard/or vaal arctic armour etc

[visual dock]

the phys max is only 30k

means it can easily get 1 ko from phys still

[velvet yarrow]

my current rf

with progen

[frank pike]

yea kinda hard to get phys reduction on the ranger side of tree

maybe i could setup my merc to give me endurance charges

[visual dock]

ill probably consider armour stacker again or maybe go easy champ easy life. .. but also fair chance ill go inq for energy blade spell blade+battle mage endgame

int+str stack

the new cast speed

is nice

[frank pike]

oh yea, kinda funny how blood magic technically got a buff? cuz mana RF has no downside while giving cast speed for free

[visual dock]

yeah

it looks so good

or you could basically convert 80% of your mana to armour?

and then you have low man

mana and you can still use reservation

for auras cause they are % based

while basically having no mana and getting 25% more speed

[sonic field]

afaik mana rf doesnt look at conversion

oh wait nvm

for a moment i thought conversion = reservation

i guess i should go to sleep

[visual dock]

xD

i think the keystone

that convert

should work to reduce your max mana

right?

[gusty wasp]

Anybody know if we can add skills to mercs via gear sockets?

[frank pike]

they said they will have preset skills

[merry anchor]

wasnt shown in the live stream so thats not info we have at the moment

[frank pike]

so, no

[thorny pond]

I need to see the caster changes on the passive tree :/

[glass seal]

They come with preset gear too. You can change that, so can't 100% say one way or the other

[high fossil]

They were shown being given gear with different sockets, including a Kaom's Heart, and not having their skills change at all. So it's pretty safe to say that their gear sockets do not determine their skill gems.

[paper stirrup]

how would curse limit work with mercs ? If me the player has 1 curse limit, but merc has 2; would enemy have 3 curses active?

[limpid basin]

when you apply a curse

that curse will override the 2 extant curses

when they apply their curses, your curse will be overrided

the limit applies whenever someone tries to apply a curse

[high fossil]

The curse limit is how many curses can be left on the target, not how many each entity is applying

[paper stirrup]

ah nice then

[soft quarry]

Anybody league start BAMA in 3.25? curious how hard the farm is for the transfigured gems

[odd gate]

pretty easy, you can get either blink or mirror arrow of bombarding and then vendor recipe it to get the version you want

[soft quarry]

@odd gate ty

[lunar stirrup]

So ... we have to update the lootfilter manually this time?

[odd gate]

i think he means if you have custom rules for those sections, they won't immediately transfer over, you'll have to redo those custom rules in the new layout

[lunar stirrup]

or it still auto sync, he just let us know the major changes

[odd gate]

if you don't have any custom rules, it'll just work like normal

[grand nest]

Anyone know if CoC Forbidden Rite Cyclone might still be good in 3.26?

[limpid basin]

its been mid for a while and while continue to be mid

[waxen spire]

Fancy doing some blight ravages, haven't done in a hot minute. Any good build for them?

[vernal pine]

I think current build is poison crema? last I checked blight discord

[simple basin]

Do we know if mercs are character bound or league bound

[short plank]

Ditto!

[vernal pine]

oh hi sci lol

fancy seeing a poe player in the poe discord

waow

[grand nest]

You know a better one for which off the top of your head that’s pretty fast pace then?

[limpid basin]

whats your requirement

is a build?

every single other starter you see getting guides put out and getting put in tier lists

[grand nest]

Fast pace and good damage ig that’s it tbh

[limpid basin]

that's all of them

because if they didnt have that

nobody would play them

for example, everything here https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1l6peyr/fubguns_starter_tier_list_for_326/

[grand nest]

I mean yah I could do bama league starter again cause I know that one very well

[echo grove]

Can anyone try to help me get this to 2 million DPS, without adding additional active skills (ie reap) or a 35 corrupting cry Shako?
https://pobb.in/VamnA8iy1LV4

[oblique steeple]

wheres ur gear

[echo grove]

gone

[oblique steeple]

running nakked

what are you wearing jake from state farm

[echo grove]

Does any armour add DoT multi or is it just % Inc

I suppose i could run a Dialla's but that gives me conniptions since i want to be absurdly tanky

Also i just realized im basically making Shitty Phys RF

Okay this helps a lot

So does turning Pride to max effect cuz thats probably not fake

+3 Exsanguinate Dragonfang annointing Acrimony

Oh duh Vulnerability is huge here

[oblique steeple]

@echo grove 3mil dps, nakked, Physical SPELL user on the Physical ATTACK class

[balmy moss]

bro they just nerfed elementalist

they've removed this Enemies Chilled by your Hits have Damage taken increased by Chill Effect

[limpid basin]