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exotic forum
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Lol

blissful onyx
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For the currency yeah. The DR for tattoos or runes is much softer.

hot hawk
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I've scored 3 5L chests from shipping so far, but they aren't the right armor type. I'm doing armor/ES; 2 chests are evasion/ES and the other is pure evasion. (I'm in act 10 fwiw)

somber oriole
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did i under sell it? xD

sonic stirrup
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That ring is unethical. No negative mods

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Lucky

worthy brook
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off topic but whoa a spiral knights avatar. anyways finally got my first power rune drop. and i need 14 more for this rune craft. oof

sonic stirrup
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Yes

south breach
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Can you do a Runesmithing craft if an item already had 3 prefix and 3 suffix?

sonic stirrup
swift mesa
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u inspired me to flicker again 🙏

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also can i see ur pob

loud rock
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swift mesa
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really nice for cheap items

loud rock
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Forb flame and flesh total should be 45d now

swift mesa
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oh damn

loud rock
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not needed

swift mesa
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screw this league

loud rock
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it always have been that price

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since it has been introduced

swift mesa
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chaosthinking harder to get divs this league though

loud rock
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not needed, you can get 40m dps without the clusters and forb flesh and flame

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just take more AS on the Tree in compensation or more crit multi

swift mesa
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🗒️

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good amulet tech

loud rock
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i have vaal breach for additional vaal skill but no slot yet

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tempted to buy unset ring but that would prob be expensive

swift mesa
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do u know how u will progress further?

loud rock
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ye

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headhunter -> unset ring -> get better clusters

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3 passive clusters are the objective later on

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voices

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i can buy HH now, but im just buying patients 20c each and hope i can get there

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since 20c each is 3k chaos cheaper

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and i dont need it immediately

torn jewel
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do ''idling'' npcs still suck up gold?

swift mesa
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oh yeah hh scales better with phys weapons becuz of phys to ele buffs

vagrant grail
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Only thing you gotta worry about are Farmers who never idle unless told to, because they technically never run out of work.

young beacon
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one quick question guys does inc elemental damage only work ones if I convert my lightning to cold?

rough wren
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and i cant find beter gear with the right sockets

somber isle
torn jewel
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should i be spending wheat/metal on shipping early game? or hoard it till im lvl 80 or higher

i.e im shipping stuff now to get currency and items, not sure if its worth while

young beacon
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one quick question guys does inc elemental damage only apply ones if I convert my lightning to cold?

somber isle
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In other words, your elemental damage will only apply once

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It does not matter if lightning or cold

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Your converted damage will have both the "lightning" tag and "cold" tag

young beacon
somber isle
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once

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That converted damage can benefit from both increased cold and increased lightning (and increased elemental), all of which are added up (once)

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tho

young beacon
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oh well no more double dipping ays.

somber isle
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I don't think that ever was a thing

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unless you have like, "more" cold dmg and "more" lightning damage

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then it probably goes insane

young beacon
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in the past it is a thing..

wind sundial
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I'm guessing there's no way to reset your town progress?

young beacon
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I guess they nerf it

torn jewel
# vagrant grail Nope

is it worth using the wheat/other materials early game for shipping? or keep them till char level is higher

somber isle
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o oke

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idk you can check PoB calculations

loud rock
exotic forum
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Can always start out slow and ramp it up as you go so that your town costs don't outpace your ability to farm

swift mesa
loud rock
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yep

swift mesa
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but its really expensive

loud rock
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but i hate

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rares

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cause i rly fucking hate crafting them

swift mesa
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same

loud rock
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i legit never touched rares above maps

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rare weapons*

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for flicker i ALWAYS go for rakiatas, voifdorge, est or oro's

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looking for a very specific but kinda common rare is gonna cost you

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like my ring is fucking 20c for some reason

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its just life and res at high rolls

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why tf is it that expensive

swift mesa
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i think ppl get resis and life on rings

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like most do

somber isle
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cuz it's fking hard to get a good tier on life and a good tier on resist

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let alone both

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only life and 1 resist is not that easy with "raw" crafting (chaos) but most people suck at crafting so much (I was one of those people until this league) that they don't know how to reliably get it

loud rock
somber isle
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rings are one of the hardest things to craft tho imo

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amulets too tbh

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just cuz amulets have soo much good shit on them

random trellis
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they might want to extend this league longer, 3 months is pretty short for this one

swift mesa
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yeah how else am i going to farm all my power runes

left oxide
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So how you guys feeling 2 weeks in

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I have a 80div invest character and my wealthy exile is half way to a mageblood

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The currency exchange is one of the best updates the game has ever had but i believe there are still a handfull of things that can go in there

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Like it's missing some fossils lmao

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And adding normal(scoured)/unique maps/invitations to it would be great too

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In general i believe only items w/ variable mods should not be on it(gear,jewels,flasks etc)

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I do feel the gold costs are a bit bananas, today i am making some regexes and starting t17

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T16 fully juiced legion is only 15k gold per map :/

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I believe we are in for a 5 month league

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They are laser focused on the coming poe2 beta

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It NEEDS to be a roaring succes with how many resources and how much time they invested

vagrant grail
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Not that I mind. I cannot nolife this game like a streamer can.

left oxide
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If i was them i'd have a small week-long NDA beta with high level players 1-2 months before normal beta

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Maybe even pay them to nolife it that week

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And then implement all the feedback

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Since they need the public beta to be a succes

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Like i'd be sweating bullets at the thought of launching to anything less than universal acclaim

left oxide
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Especially with a new in-office job getting signed monday

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Altough i start 1 and a half months from now

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Boy am i excited, but RIP grinding on company time

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Alass i gotta take the x3 bag lmao.

vagrant grail
left oxide
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Well get prepared because PoE2 is wildly different

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I like PoE1 because i blast the screen

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And hordes of mobs die

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PoE2 aint about that

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So they need to nail the new formula

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Altough is the league bosses are indicative of PoE2 bosses i am sad

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I hate having to wait 1 minte for invulnerability phases

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Yes mr pirate lord , theatric more with your waves, il go have a coffee or something

vagrant grail
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I would love to see the community slowly nudge Chris away from his "vision" of having trade be annoyingly hard. That is my one gripe.

left oxide
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Like the league bosses would be amazing if they just took a hint from elden ring

vagrant grail
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Potential competition from other ARPGs seems to be having a good effect.

left oxide
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And replaced invuln phases with 80% damage reduction

vagrant grail
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Have you seen clips from POE2 yet, even the act bosses look amazing.

left oxide
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They get to extend the fight but we still feel engaged in it

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Yea the bosses are good except the 1 thing that ruins them

vagrant grail
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I wouldnt worry too much about bosses. They are looking good so far.

left oxide
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Invulnerability phases

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That last 15-20s

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Urgh

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Like just get rid of those and the bosses would be so so so good

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80-90% dr during those attacks would effectively stop builds oneshotting the boss

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But let us keep having our fun of hitting them

vagrant grail
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I am really excited to see all the broken nonsense builds that will come from weapons having their own trees. kek

Crucible league dialed to 11.

left oxide
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Well idk, they are preparing a way lower power level

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They want us to dodge roll individual mobs

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???

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So yea

sonic canyon
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Weapons don't have their own trees. More precisely, each weapon set has a number of passives that can be allocated for that weapon set, so sets 1, 2 and Shapeshifting are able to allocate some number of passives differently.

sonic canyon
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Exceptions being those miniboss types like the Faridun Impaler in the Witch gameplay, which was originally an area boss.

vagrant grail
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Hopefully Templar finally gets pants.

sonic canyon
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I believe he does.

native heath
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is there only 1 boss enemy this league?

left oxide
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3

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Pirate, bandit, and black knight

native heath
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oh nice

left oxide
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All 3 have low damage high hp

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And 20-30s of invulnerability phases

native heath
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only encountered the pirate so far

sonic canyon
left oxide
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That cannot be skipped

vagrant grail
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Aren't we getting two classes per type? So there will be another Str/Int class.

sonic canyon
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That's right, that's what the second character is

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Templar and Druid on Str/Int

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For the full list:

STR: Marauder and Warrior
STR/INT: Templar and Druid
INT: Witch and Sorceress
INT/DEX: Shadow and Monk
DEX: Ranger and Huntress
DEX/STR: Duelist and Mercenary

obsidian kernel
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You are hardly someone who even answers regularly. You have the "new" tag. Are you really going to take the "I can't answer questions. Go look at the wiki" attitude to a genuine question ?

daring hinge
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ye

obsidian kernel
# daring hinge ye

I didn't break any discord rules by asking that question. I always check the wiki first. And that question is specific to new league mechanics. You didn't have to be rude to me. You have a bad attitude and that karma will return to you one way or another

daring hinge
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aint that serious brother

obsidian kernel
# daring hinge aint that serious brother

Why dont YOU go check the wiki. Some of the details from the latest league aren't even up. Most of the people who tell other to go check the wiki do so because they have answered the same question thousands of times. You just like to act like the same kind of expert even without knowing the answer yourself

daring hinge
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move on

sage thorn
pseudo geode
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Coming back to the game after a long break. Could someone give me some advice on what's the best map to scry to? in other words, best layout / density (boss difficulty is irelevant)

left oxide
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Depends on what you run

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Legion->dunes

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Blight > some corridor map

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Etc etc

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Strand/beach are nice too

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As always depends on your atlass

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Jungle valey is great

pseudo geode
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ah I just found the seer in underground sea and not sure where to put it

left oxide
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With blue altars

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Since the boss counts as dead untill you enter room

pseudo geode
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is city square good?

left oxide
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For essences i think? Cant remember well

pseudo geode
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I'll give it a shot, worst case I can scour it out, thanks

left oxide
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no need to scour it

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scry is a change of target with source, not a swap

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the undeground sea cards will be on both underground sea AND wherever you scry to

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not like underground sea will get the square cards

exotic forum
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essences is just lowest tier of a color that you can speed through to get any essence spawns?

left oxide
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essences you use scarabs

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to force a lot of them

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t6 maps are fine i think

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they are all about blasting speed

exotic forum
left oxide
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that is why t6 is fine

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lowest yellow map

exotic forum
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yea

left oxide
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fastest blast on low dps

exotic forum
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or lowest tier red for shrieking essences

pseudo geode
golden urchin
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of course my power goes out in a boss room 😭

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rip my zerker

umbral ruin
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Why is stasis prison so cheap this league? Can they be farmed from ships?

prisma epoch
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is there a way to farm specific (war) rune in the shipping

sage thorn
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Has there been any recent sightings of Dannig + Isla shipfics on Ao3?

left oxide
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You can upsell runes 5 to 1

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Vendor your crappy ones for war if ssf

left oxide
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Nobody using it

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The essence tab is so nice

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the upgrade button is straight p2w lmao

agile hemlock
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buy up stasis prisons, post an OP build with stasis prison on reddit, cash in lul

upper dragon
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Despairge well, still don't have a 6 link and my maps refuse to drop high tier maps so i can't even get the craft. i've spent like 300-400 fusings so far.

hoary oasis
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Can I reduce the number of resources requested by docks if I use dust?

left oxide
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beast works too

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spam linking is ugh

pseudo geode
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Does anyone know what Sactum affliction "Iron Manacles" (cannot avoid Resolve loss from hits) actually does? Does it bypass Inspiration?

agile hemlock
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I believe it's only relevant to the avoid chance you get from evasion

frosty basin
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my map runners got me a voidborn reliquary key (2 div). Earlier they found me a divine orb.

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I've still only gone through my t1 maps and halfway through the t2 maps.

elfin warren
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guys just newb questions, when im farming blue altars, rush boss? and why? thx 🙂

coarse grove
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How is the economy doing? With all this automation, and uniques flowing in so much, I'd guess that it's in the dump.

left oxide
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boats are hidden op

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if you spam

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no power rune there

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just a bunch of lower tier runes

left oxide
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we are in half poverty league

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top end uniques are orders of magnitudes rarer than last leagues due to no broken juice mechanic

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and my boats bring in like 2-4 raw divs/day

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not a lot for a league mechanic

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if the currency exchange didnt exist the league would go down as poverty central

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Also the automation is memes

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i run juiced t16s and frankly the gold is miserable

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The auto map runners suck you dry so hard you must be running t17s to sustain them

outer pagoda
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what fun build to play this league

umbral ruin
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is corrupted blood an ailment?

sonic stirrup
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No

left oxide
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Just get a cb jewel

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Forget it exists and move on

tribal canopy
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i am in t9 and less maps, there a method to get 5k+ gold each map?

native osprey
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more magic monsters

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awfully hard to guarantee with no favorite map slots and less than half the atlas tree

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but just add more magic and rare monsters get more gold

noble thistle
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Hum, there is a problem with betrayal no? supposed to get 40/round with my lab guys and instead i got 8 ._.

hoary lodge
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anyone know how i can get a ton of t17

charred ingot
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can someone help me kill map boss in t17 i need the extra atlas slot ill pay 1 div

charred ingot
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softcore

hoary lodge
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i meant

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eu, na, OCE?

charred ingot
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settlers

hoary lodge
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or what

charred ingot
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eu

hoary lodge
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sure invite me.

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@compact junco i did a thing

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you didnt bait me my name is a lie

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😂

sonic stirrup
sonic stirrup
compact junco
hoary lodge
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since he only had 2 portals up

red mauve
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yo is this thing good? nothing like it on the market

hoary lodge
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neat

dreamy beacon
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what material do i ship to get more runes?

spare acorn
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Got 1D from shipping at like lvl50 and nothing since 😔

rustic hawk
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So I have enough gold in my towns treasury, however my townsfolk are not working

elfin cliff
spare acorn
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Maps would be nice

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Hate having the “drops connected maps” be a high percentage and then I get a T1 map in a T7 one

torpid scroll
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i just fought against admiral valerius for first time without seeing any spoilers before! and might i say this was very enjoyable fight -- im underlvled and undergeared it took me awhile but this felt so well polished the telegrapphic and the sound design is soo goood i fking loved it 😄

pliant haven
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What is this - Reflective fog. What does it do?

agile hemlock
pliant haven
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oooo nice .thx

fallen terrace
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how many maps do i gotta run before sasan shows up

crisp plume
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Anyone else not comming across orochalcum ore???? Where is it. I run maps and get every other type but no more orichalcum??? help please

fallen terrace
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luck issue

crisp plume
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can it spawn on any map type?

minor heron
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I failed this map and IDK why it was so rippy. Doesn't look like any bad mods?

agile hemlock
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Reduced aura effect turning off your auras?

minor heron
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my only defensive aura is determination and doesn't look like any phys mods there

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actually going to go cry

agile hemlock
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Oh wait 25% ele pen + tons of phys as extra

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Tho that's boss only

tawdry plover
minor heron
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i might despec from block tbh

tawdry plover
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Frenzy charges +% sdmg are essentially phys mods

minor heron
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my league starter with only grace and 2k life has less deaths than this max block summoner

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sucks ass man

tawdry plover
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Could've just been some nasty rares

minor heron
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idk how people lvl to 100, took me 2 weeks to get to 94

tawdry plover
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Avoid all dmg mods, take ur time but also go quick. Idk how to explain it

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Pace well in maps but hideout is lava I guess

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Don't make any of those "well this altar might kill me" decisions

minor heron
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i lose out on gear if i don't do them though

tawdry plover
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Well the tradeoff generally has been loot or xp unless you've got some insanely tanky build

minor heron
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do streamers actually avoid does mods? how do they make currency otherwise

tawdry plover
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I reckon streamers builds are generally significantly better than the average player

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Eventually u can just stat check the game

hoary lodge
cerulean python
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what would be a good build to do delve for 10~ div?

twin girder
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how good is LS Deadeye, currently playing Ele hit of spectrum deadeye is it worth switching to ?

ruby flame
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so if I die once to the encounter when I got my ship kidnapped thats it?

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I thought it was 6 portals but no portals

ruby flame
delicate wraith
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i think i just won POE thx to Gwennen

steep hollow
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was buying shields off the black market... ended up making this bad boy

shadow crater
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Wanted to see if anyone could fill me in what im missing.
I had a Valdo map I ran, full cleared it, but it didnt provide a chest with the foil reward?

pseudo heart
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Wow I have 1k hours and just learned you can vendor portal scrolls and transmutes for wisdom scrolls

tawdry plover
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You found all abyss and strongboxes?

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Vaal vessels aren't marked I don't think

shadow crater
tawdry plover
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No vaal vessels I assume?

shadow crater
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I opened 6-7, havnt found any additional

tawdry plover
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It does say 10 on the map mod

shadow crater
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walking it again without a loot filter to be positive

tawdry plover
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Do u want me to come scope? I can log in quick

shadow crater
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Bet

tawdry plover
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What's ign

shadow crater
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Im a child I know. coconutpeepee

tawdry plover
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Xd

half acorn
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Do kingsmarch mappers benefit from your atlas tree?

gritty basin
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Not that I've been able to tell

sterile brook
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I don't think they do, but they do actually run the map you give them, when they find div cards they are generally ones on that map's drop table

near beacon
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Anyone have the meta strat for ships? IE crop ratio and dust?

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Or a video link I could check out?

sage quartz
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I hate rolling magma ;w;

agile hemlock
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blazing salvo is more comfy, just weaker

sage quartz
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💯

sage quartz
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https://imgur.com/gallery/ziggyds-settlers-of-kalguur-shipping-cheetsheet-notes-v2-important-strategic-updates-5F7Y1GR

near beacon
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alert perfect Ty alert

compact idol
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Hi. I just started the Settlers league. I just established the smith. But the HR guy in the tavern has only mining and shipping applicants. Can i put a miner to the smith? If yes, will there be disadvantage in production? Or how to hire a smith guy?

sage quartz
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refresh recruits

compact idol
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that cost money

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and on the beginning i dont have much

sage quartz
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yeeee but then you'll get people who can do their jobs

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save up, you'll get there 🙂

compact idol
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I understand. .... .... I have put a shipping guy to farming corn... so is that a wrong thing?

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Articles doesnt really talk about when u put a guy with x profession to an 'y' work...

sonic canyon
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If they don't have the specific skill, they count as having 0 skill in a job.

compact idol
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Uh... So... i have to hire someone with farming skills too?

sonic canyon
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They would still do something, I believe, but you might as well just wait, get some more gold, and refresh for suitable applicants.

compact idol
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Eh.

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Thanks buddy.

past spire
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is there a google doc somewhere for 36/40 challenges?
dont know what to focus first in atlas tree for the most rng challenges, i was thinking about 'kill posessed boss in ritual' and deli boss in harvest

sour sundial
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Not sure what's going on with the trade site when it comes to these unique maps. I'm trying to buy the last few I need for completion's sake and it only lists one guy all the way down, all appearing to be the same map. There's one other person scattered around, and both of them appear to be afk. How the heck am I supposed to get these maps? andrew315Frustrated

past spire
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you can filter collapse by buyer or something similar

sour sundial
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Does this dude just have a ton of the same map? What seems weird is they were all listed at the exact same time

agile hemlock
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they probably went into a dump tab

sour sundial
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I see

past spire
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its possible ye , what i usually do for those is select by the most recent posting and not price, its worth spending 1-2chaos more if you dont have to wait 10min

sour sundial
late sage
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from experience, Divined Destiny is easy and I finished mine today

past spire
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ty amazing 🙂

late sage
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just spec into Diviner's Strongboxes in the atlas tree

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Magnificent Mastery is likewise doable, just a bit grindy - you'll get it done if you just play the game with scarabs for the two masters you want

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(I did Niko and Einhar)

past spire
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im doing red beast and safehouses because i prefer to grind maps over anything, 200/400 red beast and 1/40 safehouses

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should be quick with the nodes i think

late sage
past spire
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didnt see the challenge that ask for ' use a mirror of kalandra ' kek
what did you spec for the rng bosses with ritual and possesed?

past spire
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i should start by this one + einah + jun

late sage
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as for Extravagent Equipment I used Sacred Orb, Tempering Orb, C-Exalt, Dominance, Conflict and Divine Teardrop

past spire
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dont know what atlas to spec first 😭

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they say its an easy challenge but the rng seems horrible

late sage
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Blight Boss while Delirious is simple too

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Sacred Grove is cancer, didn't do it

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Breachlord is likewise annoying to spawn so didn't bother

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Harbinger while in a Breach sounds tricky but I managed to pull it off during my early mapping

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and unique map boss that's possessed while in a Ritual is, well, yet again forceable via Ritual scarab

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just gotta get lucky with the final Ritual being at the boss arena

past spire
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i guess i will enable all content except abyss + legion + ultimatum and see how it goes

late sage
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so it sucks in the boss

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then you complete the Ritual and voila

late sage
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because you can do Abyssal Depths for that one other challenge

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and the 30 Legion encounters for another

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(did the latter myself, 1/5 on the former)

past spire
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ah y i see

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ty fo the help 🙂

late sage
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🫡

civic jewel
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if you send bismuth bars to riben fell, is it possible to obtain exceptional/awakened/transfigured gems or just the normal ones

wild gyro
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which of the beast types is best to spec into for profit?

half ember
civic jewel
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3 of the most profitable beasts seem to be wilds, then deep

wild gyro
civic jewel
potent vortex
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Are there any builds rn that can blast through 100% deli t17s?

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I haven't played in a few leagues and the games gotten way harder

wild gyro
past spire
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some of those grinds are awful tho i dont see myself farming 500 maps with 3 scarabs

rapid olive
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they removed the brothers gift card from the cemetery drop pool?

late sage
late sage
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I think it's easy enough

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especially if you use scarabs that don't make things harder for you like Harvest (can just skip the Sacred Grove after all)

past spire
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true :p
they will probably be done before the other challenges if i pop 2 each maps so its fine

late sage
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yeh

supple swallow
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https://pobb.in/nYR9XJ4G9THi
I have Resolute Techniques, Monsters can't block attacks, and a decent accuracy investment i feel (several nodes, accuracy on gear), but it seems like 2/3s of the time Ground Slam does the animation but no hits register. Any ideas?

half ember
civic jewel
native osprey
blissful onyx
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Real. Not sure if it’s intended but it’s not super great for currency. My best returns have been sub 1 mil shipments. It’s pretty random.

somber oriole
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Is expedition better than harb for frost blades? harb is kinda boring and slow profit lol

native osprey
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I wouldn't run expedition unless you also take the ignore block mastery [which you should]

somber oriole
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yeah i would def get that insted of targetting another mob, specially if i already have it ina glove lol

somber isle
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and evasion

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imo

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I guess it's fine if you have enough DPS actually

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but if you're at 1-2M I don't think you can do every/most modifiers comfortably

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if you get some disgusting rog items u can probably make a ton of currency tho

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idk. I'd say do what is most fun tho

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I don't think expedition is hella fun (unless u can just blow up every relic affix thing)

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I prefer breach

somber oriole
#

yeah I'm trying to find what's fun, so far bligh and harb were not so much, and essences in T16 need and hella OP build lol
breach and deli looks like fun, just need to know how to kill all the mobs in breach before it closes lol

somber isle
#

you either get ancestral call, or "non-vall skill target 2 more enemies" or the "non-vaal skills target 1 more enemy" in the attack mastery in tree

somber oriole
#

i've never spec into it so i have no idea what the nodes do

somber isle
#

and just, enough damage, really

somber isle
#

doesn't rly change the mechanic

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delirium also is kinda the same

somber oriole
#

so map layout and damage matters more

somber isle
#

yep

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same with delirium

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delirium is kinda strange

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not sure if you know how it works, but basically the "deeper" into the map you go, the more tanky monsters get

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by a lot.

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they might do more damage too probably idk

somber oriole
#

had no idea it buffed the monsters as you go lol
for me was just a "race"

somber isle
#

you can also add "layers of delirium" with delirium orbs

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on maps

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which is how I realized it made stuff tanky

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with 100% delirious making the map REALLY tanky

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it makes the map have delirium, with no end to it

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btw

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and custom rewards

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I would only recommend u spec into delirium if u have rly good dps

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like 3-4M+

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probably more idk

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unless u spec into it casually

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or like semi-casually

somber oriole
#

oh yeah i know how the work on the surface, I think i have more if i configures my pob right lol

somber isle
#

then it might be fun :>

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breach is much easier to manage

somber oriole
#

and looks like splinters sells decently too

#

i mean their evolved form lol

somber isle
#

I would say if you get bosses to spawn u get like 10 splinters per breach

#

on a good breach?

somber isle
#

u get the evolved form by using a normal breachstone, killing the boss in it, and SOMETIMES getting an "upgrade" currency

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and then using that upgrade currency on the normal breachstone

#

u can also use the upgrade currency on the unique items that boss drops

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to upgrade them to be unique items that the upgraded boss drops

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shit like that xd

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it's not the most interesting form of like reward system in poe

#

but the interaction is fun

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delirium is, imo, slightly less fun in terms of interaction, but more fun rewards (sometimes, when the rewards don't decide to randomly be fking armor and weapons xd)

#

I like blight but

atomic finch
#

How do you price/sell an 80% derilious T17 map?

somber isle
#

I don't like that blight maps give like 0 fucking gold

#

I think that was a really dumb oversight

somber oriole
#

yeah I'll try both and see which one is more fun

somber isle
somber oriole
somber isle
#

breach feeds into delirium very very well

somber isle
#

just

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no gold

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you get no fucking gold

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I remember doing a normal blighted map (not the hard version) and I got like 200 gold

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or some shit

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I mean the rewards are good but fk u I wanna interact with settlers mechanic

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also

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this fking node

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does not work

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in blighted maps

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which is annoying as shit

#

but yeah if you full spec into delirium

#

just know that optimizing for delirium high-end

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requires a lot of dps and survivability

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so don't feel bad if u can't

somber oriole
#

sure! thanks for all the help!

somber isle
#

simulacrum especially

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is very 1 shotty

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np

loud rock
civic pewter
#

Hello, I can't decide between Jurgen's shield crush build or Ziz's Spectral Shield Throw, what can you tell me about each?

shadow cypress
#

what do you use to start disenchanting when you just get it to rank 1? ive tried all rares and i cant place them in the window

kindred shoal
#

Is this bugged?? I can't rescue

hoary pulsar
#

sometimes its worth picking up floor amulets and identifying them xD, thats all my luck for the league

hybrid vessel
#

Rank 1 is only magic items

nimble plover
#

ehhh??
didnt know this can happen

#

my first divine this leaguee

humble barn
#

any advice for what crafted ring could be better than taming for warden? everything I sim in pob gets blown out of the water by it

#

even synth ring with onslaught implicit, no chance

slow isle
#

how do i get workers with single skill above lvl 5? i already upgraded the city to get lvl 8 workers, and rolled over 100k re-rolling workers but they never show up

wheat gale
#

if you join someone's delve at 400 depth, does that count for the challenge? I'm assuming not

#

also is there any way to increase the chance for sasan/black knight or is it just chance? those are my last two things I need for 36/40 lol, delve and a boss

#

got like 3 knights back to back to back earlier in the league but didnt get the laser challenge done

digital zodiac
#

can we Scry multiple (2 map's card dunes, jungle valley) on to a same map? (example : city square)

violet nymph
granite basin
#

hey, which is the Shipment value "sweet spot" to get the most out of it? thanks a lot!

delicate notch
#

i am BEAUTIFUL

#

this shit is ridiculous lol

torn jewel
#

i have a 6 link that doesnt have the colors i want, im lvl 56, what is the best way to change it to have colors i want inexpensively

potent lily
#

what does gold coins do?

stark barn
#

you use it to upgrade kingsmarch town

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and hire people

#

It's basically like a cell phone mini game where you use the gold to do things at your kingsmarch base

pseudo heart
#

Is it worth identifying watchers eyes?

stark barn
#

Any hardcore players here?

rustic dew
#

95-99% of the time unidentified is gonna be more valuable, but you can hit the 1% that is worth a ton

median mulch
#

Is there any good strat for exp farm this league apart from abyss?

#

wanna finally hit that last 50% to lvl 100

rustic dew
#

rotations or 5 way, but I am assuming you want to solo? Breach was decent for me but 99-100 is a pain

median mulch
rustic dew
#

It's still around 4% for 5-6 minutes, better than anything else I am guessing

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Maybe Simulacrum? Haven't tested and not every build can do it, but I guess it's better now as it starts higher level

median mulch
#

Anyways, will just redo one of the atlasses for abyss and lvl this way

rustic dew
#

With breach on Dunes I had around 35m/hr probably more with delirium. Haven't tried abyss so not sure about it (at lvl 99)

median mulch
#

I've made 50+ when running abyss with my friend on Strand (also lvl 99)

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He is just off for the next 4-5 days, so we cant run together)

rustic dew
#

5way will be around 120m but it is of course boring

#

And it costs money, although if you have enough to buy a bunch of enlightens, you can even profit from it.

#

Otherwise I assume the upgraded chayula breachstone rotations would be good xp as well.

warped trellis
#

I know it's just an unducated guess. But do you think Replica Alberon's price will continue dropping in the coming weeks? Looks like it reached a peak and doing down to ~50div but seem to stabilize.

sleek quest
#

hey, what's the best channel to share Craters for Verisium Ore?

echo kite
#

so this just dropped

coarse bridge
#

What map should i scry?

hot quail
hot quail
#

Anyone who knows 200% how harvest scales with other than packsize?

sudden harness
#

does anyone know if theres a way to exclude specific uniques from the search site when searching

#

like I know you can search for non uniques but thats not exactly what i want

mystic coyote
#

Do low level kingsmarsh workers perform more work per gold than high level workers? Or vice versa?

pearl nymph
#

is the "Gain 1 rage" passive on Lethal Pride new to this league? pob doesn't seem to be able to search for it on find timeless jewel thing

loud rock
quiet sail
celest wind
#

how much is life regen wurth ?

elder seal
#

So happy to be in mapping now 🙂

hot quail
spare vapor
#

Recovery will in fact save your life, but 23 is pretty much nothing

pine shell
gleaming sonnet
#

I've been away for 1 week, so I have some questions:

  1. Do we have testing done for bars / dust for gear? i.e. how many bars/dust to get T1 rolls?
  2. Do we know if Verisium affects negatively currency rewards?
  3. Does dust have any impact on runes? i.e. is it better to send pure 50M shipment or less with a 3x dust factor
pine shell
#

runes are dependant on total value of the shipment so yes dust will have impact

faint ravine
faint ravine
south breach
#

Wow... I went to rescue my ship and died... so I lose all my crew?

agile hemlock
#

yea

south breach
#

Well that sucks... gonna take quite a bit a gold to get a good crew then Madge

violet nymph
#

I jel

vagrant bobcat
#

are there any cheap 1c scarabs that would go well with an alch and go T16 jungle valley searing altar/strongbox/shrine atlas?

brazen topaz
#

can anyone explain, why i cant regen es anymore somehow?

tawdry plover
#

U have divine shield or ghost shrouds

#

And the -3k armour/evasion is lowering that

#

Capping ur es pool

#

@brazen topaz

rich quest
#

whats the best shipments to be sending for raw currency?

steep mountain
#

any idea why my miners/smelters have stopped producing?

agile hemlock
blissful onyx
#

You still want dust. It has a multiplier just with quickly diminishing returns

thin barn
#

what atlas strategy is everyone running?, i been doing ritual but i want to do something else

pastel tartan
#

Most rewarding thing in the league = ignore the league

#

10/10 balance

blissful onyx
#

Same as it ever was

old tulip
#

I'ma be honest, ssf ain't hitting anymore

hollow dune
#

Anyone playing Hexblast mines?

little stump
little stump
hollow dune
# little stump yup

With how it works, is there any mechanic that sucks to do or just doesn't feel good. I know they are good at Sanctum but unsure what else they are good at outside of that.

little stump
pine shell
little stump
#

but it's not an amazing map clearer, e.g. legion is just okay with HB trickster

#

and it's obviously not very tanky so not ideal if you can't dodge anything

agile hemlock
little stump
pine shell
#

yep dust has no impact , have got 3 divs today and all from sending 250 crop of each type to ribben fell since it only takes 30min

little stump
#

which is fine when you can mass message people

old tulip
#

did they fix heist not dropping gold yet

pastel tartan
old tulip
#

if other mechanics can, it must

pastel tartan
#

Sanctum doesnt give gold either

old tulip
#

that would make sense but heist doesn't make the same money

#

there's no tradeoff

pastel tartan
#

Choices

agile hemlock
#

I assume heist never will since it spawns an endless tide of enemies

vocal magnet
#

I don’t like that I have to spam maps to get gold, delve gives gold but not enough

blissful onyx
old tulip
#

they already have a system for diminishing returns in heist so that's a nonfactor

agile hemlock
#

Yeah, as is typical, the league mechanic is locked off to people who don't run maps

blissful onyx
#

In my experiences it does affect it

pastel tartan
#

Doesnt even make sense

#

So im fine with other leagues giving 0

hollow dune
#

About to reroll and wasted most of my currency lol can you build your way into Molten Strike of Zenith or do you need currency to get it going?

quiet sail
#

You can build up to it, but it probably requires replacing some gear and quite a few regrets

dire topaz
#

Is this an okay item?

blissful onyx
#

No

steep lark
#

i need help i want to buy 5 Ways but unfortunatly i dont know the right chat for Trade please someone help me

somber oriole
#

may i ask a kind soul to share a regex for frost blades to do 8 mods maps?

worn drift
#

whats most gold efficient, shipping or settlers mapping?

fickle sandal
#

why people are running so many t17, even buying them 100 c each? It's just the 8mod maps farming?

blissful onyx
#

I farm my own

agile hemlock
fickle sandal
agile hemlock
#

You put strongboxes on them, roll more currency/scarabs, and drop absurd amounts of either currency or scarabs.

#

They have the biggest area quantity values in the game, and they have the more multipliers on top of that.

fickle sandal
#

I'll try the ambush thing, I got a bunch saved them lol

agile hemlock
#

Do a bit more research into the exact strat tho

fickle sandal
#

i'll see on youtube if someone has a guide

somber oriole
#

first really lucky drop from the league

hot hawk
#

What does recombinator do for item level?

agile hemlock
hot hawk
#

Ok, ty

random trellis
#

I rotate Poe with TFT, later social life

loud rock
torn jewel
#

disenchanting - how?
i have it unlocked, cant put any items in it

lime flax
#

Hi folks

lime flax
#

Levels up to rares

#

Final upgrade is uniques

limber turret
#

you can first disenchant magic items, then upgrade into rares

#

last upgrade lets u disenchant uniques

astral badger
#

Really liking that 2k of all crops baseline per shipment. Decent tick of raw divs

mental osprey
#

anyone got an idea on what's the best crop orientation/layout for shipment value? trying to consistently keep the ships running with high value to encounter the pirate for power runes in ssf. (got all rank 10 farmers so it's just the layout to change)

limber turret
#

There is no way to increase how many pirates you get as far as I know

mental osprey
#

why is my 350k value ship the only one that ever gets ganked, and not the 2x varisum+dust cheese for scarabs?

limber turret
#

Idk man, bad luck I guess

mental osprey
#

idk landing the same 1/3 ~14 times so far is pretty impressive. would be pretty unlikely that there isnt some kinda relation going on there in my eyes.

limber turret
#

Wiki says risk doesn't increase chance for pirates, game does too

mental osprey
#

not saying risk,

limber turret
#

Dunno about actual ship value since it's not noted down though

mental osprey
#

i keep risk to 0, was just talking shipment value

limber turret
#

Maybe it does have something to do with it but it wouldn't make sense in universe

#

Cause how do the pirates know what ship has the better loot lol

mental osprey
#

if I had to guess, it might be a way to make sure the pirate doesn't gank someone who just started act 3, unless his loot scales to zone level, since a 50k gold infusion early on would be pretty wild

devout osprey
#

video is 1s too long

old pasture
#

excuse me, if I wanna focus on the Abyss mechanic, which map would u recommend?

copper dune
soft edge
#

Question: How do I go back to rescue my sailors? I accidently clicked on the portal?

buoyant bough
atomic oyster
#

how come nobody is using coil? i thought it would be even more popular due to conversion nerf

#

(i'm specifically talking about slammers actually... like why isn't it BIS when a lot of slammers have 85-90 all res?)

blissful onyx
#

Coil is still good, but as a mid-range option

#

Top end you'll want a GG crafted rare

pale hemlock
#

I just sent a 6 million value of blue plant sprinkled with coke and got 1 mirror shard even after losing a quarter of the shipment. kek

north laurel
#

And I sent food worth 47 million and got no mirror shard, just 6 divs and other lower currency. This stuff is so random it seems

rich quest
#

anyone know if expedition or harvest is currently better profit?

pine shell
#

I am very tempted to sell my power rune lol, problem is I might never see it again

atomic oyster
blissful onyx
#

I don't really know what you should do in an SSF environment, POB it and see what gives you more defenses

#

No clue what build you're doing or what configs you have

atomic oyster
#

slamzerker... yeah idk how to pob really

#

i guess what matters is the max hit?

blissful onyx
#

Mostly yes

languid ore
#

I don't understand this league
It feels impossible to do anything meaningful with for me
Everything costs so much gold for actual meaningful rewards?
Never had a league where a mechanic has given me so little. Super frustrating. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Trying to get rank 9/10 mappers and shippers but they are crazy expensive and rerolls are silly expensive

#

I have no idea why people find it enjoyable. I want to but everything feels giga gold locked for meaningful rewards and even farming my face off I still don't get enough to actually meaningfully progress

pine shell
#

why do u need rank 9 and 10 shippers ?

#

after all the testing n everything it is very clear that sending small shipment is way better than large ones expecially for currency which is not even affected by shipment value

#

u can easily do that with rank 6 or rank 7 shippers with 0 risk

stark barn
#

sending small shipments is best?

pine shell
#

yes , send in small chunks rather than one big million value shipment

stark barn
#

how do i keep up with them asking for more ore? does the ore deposits from farming also grow in number?

#

i mean do the ore deposits in the wild get bigger?

pine shell
#

u get reward everything u send them shipment , and not when u meet their favorite material quota

pine shell
stark barn
rustic dew
#

I think small shipments can't give you power rune for example

stark barn
#

that makes sense i feel like i do get runes when i ship larger

pine shell
rustic dew
#

Also the better tatoos I think need high value

pine shell
pine shell
#

so far I have only seen people talking about it dropping from black knight

#

I got 1 yesterday

rustic dew
#

I think I have but I am not 100% sure, I had one at some point, could have been boss.

pine shell
#

atleast as per those reddit and youtube post where people are sending million value shipment power rune hasnt dropped

#

but that black knight boss seems to give it often , only issue is boss is extremely rare lol

rustic dew
#

Only seen it twice I think, 140 hrs playtime

whole python
#

Can you somehow trade in 3 logbooks for 1 different? So you can get rid of the ones u dont wanna do ?

stark barn
#

The time has come for me to attempt to finish the tutorial for the first time

nova scarab
#

I got the power rune from the pirate boss so sending small shipments over and over again to the nearest port to “farm” this boss can be good to increase your chances of getting one I suppose

mystic crater
#

Do we need to send full favoured resources everytime we ship?

#

I did ship favored Wheat and now it shows 10.000/10.000 green color for next shipment

#

Does it mean I did that and got bonus and now I can send just any food?

#

Or I need to add 10.000 wheat again to get favoured reward?

violet nymph
#

That portion of the quota is ready and you just have to finish the rest

stray gyro
#

Can nameless seer swap card from unique map?

dreamy raven
#

I just unlocked map device and rank 2. I putted mt high rank mapper and a white map t5. But then justin 20-30 sec the mapper died. Happened with the other mapper too. What am i doing wrong here?

grizzled moon
#

you'll want to check the risk for the maps you're running

#

but they're basically useless for a long time

chrome ember
#

mfw i accidentally scam myself of 100c

past spire
#

Are the challenges shared between ssf and normal league? Im stuck on 30 port quota, they ask for 50 k each mats, can i make ssf char and continue challenge from here?

remote tundra
#

has anybody seen foil ghostwrithe? my wives valdo map contains foil ghostwrithe as reward but we didnt find how it looks on the internet

sharp otter
#

has anyone tried omen of frotune on enchanted rares?

#

is that possible?

tranquil beacon
#

No

#

They clarified that before launch

waxen radish
#

hi guys does it work for you the challenge gear grinding goals - when i claim my runners loot - it just does not count to the counter. It is rare T14 maps

jagged surge
#

what do u use in reflection mist? first time i encounter one in map

sonic canyon
#

If you get an interface, you just click reflect and pick one ring. If you get the drop, then you can use it on a rare ring or amulet.

#

Or sell it

elfin warren
#

got this from boat shipment 🙂

vocal magnet
#

Gg

spare vapor
#

incredibly rare

limpid leaf
#

So when I send ships out. Should I only send the required for bonus? Say 0/420 I send 420? Or do you guys send more than they provide bonus for?

astral badger
#

I send around 2k crops along with what they require. Been getting decent bubblegum out of it

pale hemlock
#

I send the required amount and sprinkle some crack on it to get value up.

spare vapor
#

The quotas once you level up the ports are like 200k

pine shell
#

I have been sending 250 of each crop since last 2 days to ribben fell and that another port which has 30min eta. Have got 3 divs so far ,

spare vapor
#

you'll never send that much at once

woven hull
#

is it good or bad boys?

#

tras

frail lake
#

hi guys can anyone help to complete a t17 map once?

left oxide
#

Mbs up 30d in 1 day

#

Moving goalpost :///

#

At 10d/hr that's 3 hrs of inflation/day

#

Rip us slower plebes

compact marten
#

Why is my production rate of ore mining 0? It's being taken by smelting but they won't mine

red stone
#

what are peeps throwing fracturing orbs at, gonna burn 1 for challenge

celest hearth
compact marten
#

How do you get your first rune for runesmithing upgrades?

coarse bridge
#

Is there a way to increase nameless seer spawn? I’ve ran over 100 t16 burial chambers without him spawning

coarse bridge
#

Yeah I’ve been full clearing. It’s been pain lol

last blaze
#

is there any website where people just post atlas tree

umbral ruin
#

Any way to speed farm sasan the bandit lord?

ember crystal
#

is this worth it?

violet nymph
#

no xD

lean oriole
#

i've heard they nerfed the drop rates hard this league, both in t16 and t17.. is that true?

violet nymph
#

I've never amassed so much wealth so quickly in my poe career

#

And we have divine every map strategies

#

What exactly is nerfed?

sonic stirrup
spare acorn
#

60 breach rings right?

brisk schooner
elfin warren
#

any idea what are these little violet shits? it always rekt me

pale hemlock
blissful onyx
#

Upper right

ember crystal
#

What maps should I be buying? (Build isn’t finished fully)

frosty basin
#

Do shippers rank up? I was able to only send 8900 blue zanthrium with my last shipment without risk, and now I can go up to 11900, same location, same favoured%, I don't understand why

thorny charm
#

How do you deal with pirates or corrupt officials taking half of your shipments or whatever

south breach
#

I lost my crew trying to rescue them.. died to the pirate Madge

#

Now I play gacha simulator trying to get a good crew again

somber isle
#

from pirate kill

#

I couldn't die to the pirate personally

#

but it took me like 10 minutes to kill him

#

xd

pulsar burrow
#

Been about 2 years since I’ve played, is this the most active Poe discord or is there another one?

somber isle
#

I'd assume it's the most active / official

pulsar burrow
heady gazelle
#

do I want ember or ichor eldritch to get lightning leeched as life on gloves?

amber trellis
#

is there any updates to the shipping strategy?

#

last i checked sending a bunch of 500 food items and 8K dust seemed the most efficient?

pulsar burrow
pulsar burrow
amber trellis
#

i believe the last multiplier is at 8K

#

so if you have overwhelming amounts of dust like i do, no reason not to send 8K

faint ravine
#

Yeah unless you're recombinating like crazy you drown in dust

pulsar burrow
#

good to know ty

robust narwhal
#

Hey, did I made something wrong or currency exchange is bugged? Made order like this, paid over 20k and It's "completed" after just 20 of 405 gemcutters. And entire gold is gone ofc. Does anyone experienced something like that?

exotic nebula
#

no it will slowly fill that out as it finds the deals for you

#

like for example, I was selling stuff for chaos and it did 20 at a time until it fulfilled my order

robust narwhal
#

Yeah, it should, but once it's completed order is no longer listed

#

My friend just checked there are no 1:1.76 orders

#

Plenty of offers for even worse ratio for gemcutter sellers

exotic nebula
#

i don't think it would show low numbers, like if you are only one selling at 1.76, probably doesn't make sense to show it there. Or it was rolled into 1.75

left oxide
#

unethical

#

used scarab chisels on the few 180% maps i got that i can run

stuck pier
#

why my town say that i will be out of gold in 20 hours, but 10 passes and im out lol

spare vapor
#

i had no idea

rugged comet
rugged comet
heady gazelle
#

got it, 2nd roll it popped. now i can lvl an alt, no idea what one, but got 50div or so to use to gear one up for now

celest wind
#

finaly some good loot 😄

worn drift
#

What variables determines settlers map awards?

somber isle
#

Why are forbidden tomes so cheap? I recall it being super rare (and expensive) in previous leagues?

#

Did they increase drop rate?

austere dirge
#

i was having a weird thing happen yesterday running red maps, no matter the map every mob was getting an invulnerability looking shield no matter there was no modifiers stating this it would take 0 damage for atleast 5 seconds then once the invulnerability would shield would go away I could 1 hit everything it was kind of frustrating anyone have any idea what could be causing this I'm on t13-t14 maps so far

left oxide
#

either proximity shield

#

or invulnerable allies rare

#

if it looked like a bubble is the shield

foggy whale
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tip i just realized, for disenchanting if u have extra scraps/whestones quality up the gear u give him and it will give u more dust

somber isle
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Is there a way to apply item filter to vendor screens?

sonic canyon
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No

somber isle
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aight

bleak tulip
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why did kitava's feast get so cheap now

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didnt it used to cost a few divines?

agile hemlock
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It's a T4 unique, it can't really be expensive for long

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I've dropped like 4 by now

signal maple
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Somebody bring down the nimis price

somber isle
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xd

atomic glacier
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can vortex be used as a main skill

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im not familiar enough with spells to know whats what

somber isle
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it seems like its main purpose is damage so

agile hemlock
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Usually you'd use vortex as part of a cold dot build which uses a variety of cold dot spells at once to stack damage. It's also been nerfed across several leagues

somber isle
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like

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it doesn't do very much besides chill and damage

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it seems

atomic glacier
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a lot of why im asking is cuz of the skill effect sale and black hole vortex looks cool enough for me to want to buy it and make a build with it

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odd reason maybe but none the less

agile hemlock
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It has a 2k cold dot on it

somber isle
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it may not be amazing tho

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like maybe you'll get it to 1M

agile hemlock
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Which is a third of Wintertide brand, but very doable still.

somber isle
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or idk maybe you'll get it to way more

atomic glacier
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hmm

somber isle
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but it probably isn't a meta skill

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where u can just follow a build guide

atomic glacier
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oh im not worried about being meta

agile hemlock
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Could try to make hit of projection work

atomic glacier
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i just dont want to feel like white maps are a slog yknow

agile hemlock
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The skill is weirdly broken and hits way more than the number of frostbolts would suggest

atomic glacier
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hmm

agile hemlock
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Oh it'll be fine in white to yellow maps in all likelyhood

atomic glacier
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yeah but would i be looking at multiple divs investment just to make it useable

somber isle
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yeah white to yellow maps is easy to get to

atomic glacier
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cuz im broke af

somber isle
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yellow-red can

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fk u up

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xd

somber isle
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idk

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you can also learn crafting

atomic glacier
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i semi know how to craft

somber isle
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check out Rog (from expedition), Harvest rerolls, essences

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and/or delve

atomic glacier
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im not good with crafting gg items but ive crafted like 2 or 3 items worth 8+ divs

somber isle
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yeah ofc

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crafting gg items is for the ultra rich

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xd

atomic glacier
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yeah

somber isle
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that or

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you get lucky with Rog

atomic glacier
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what are we thinkin for a vortex build

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like uh

somber isle
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I have no idea

atomic glacier
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fuck i forget ascendancy names

somber isle
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I only do atk builds xd

atomic glacier
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tf is the templar one for ele resist reduction or whatever tf it is

somber isle
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honestly ascendencies aren't the biggest deal

atomic glacier
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inquis maybe

somber isle
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I mean they can be

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but aren't always

agile hemlock
somber isle
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like try to look at the tree

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look at the general area u will be in, check defense and offense in that area and yeh xd

atomic glacier
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im not sure which method of scaling would be more affordable

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cold dot or whatever tf else

somber isle
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Modifiers to Spell Damage apply to this Skill's Damage Over Time effect

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and it has 6% base crit chance

atomic glacier
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word i deadass havent even looked at the gem yet

agile hemlock
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Cold dot is about the only useful thing on vortex, so it'd be gem levels, spell damage et al.

somber isle
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XD

atomic glacier
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black hole go brr

somber isle
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also

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chill will be guaranteed

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from the skill

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no matter what

atomic glacier
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mhm

somber isle
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which also means u can double dip maybe

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with shock? or idk

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u don't need to be fancy

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at first

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just see what u do, like frenzy charges or power charges or whatever the fk

agile hemlock
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Honestly cold dot really sucks with charges

somber isle
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oh also it has

somber isle
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I guess not

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nvm then

agile hemlock
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Frenzy does have more damage and cast speed on it, which isn't unhelpful

somber isle
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I would say, go to an existing character u have that is as close to that archetype as u can, and just equip the skill and try to see how much damage it deals with nothing

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or like, very little

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just experiment and gather as much info as possible

atomic glacier
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all i have for characters are melee builds

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lmao

somber isle
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yeah me too xd but still

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like

atomic glacier
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a berserker and gladiator

somber isle
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looking at gems

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can help a lot

atomic glacier
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fair

somber isle
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for instance I'm using wild strike

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and I was browsing through gems and found "sigil of power" which gives u flat lightning damage when using mana

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and like who the fuck would've thought that the lightning mage buff was usable on melee shit

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xd

agile hemlock
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Something to look at is ravenous passion as well, but it does require spending a lot of mana

somber isle
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also there's a mastery

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that gives enemies 50% increased damage taken

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when they are frozen

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the longer they're frozen

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so u could try to go that route with freeze duration

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but then u need freeze chance

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or u can use another skill that freezes

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and do a 1-2 combo

somber isle
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ggg pls

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crit resistant lowering their damage taken by more than 80% (given a crit multi of like 300-500%) with no possible counterplay

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is stupid as shit

atomic glacier
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does vortex count as hitting an enemy with the initial damage tick

somber isle
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yes

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it says on wiki

atomic glacier
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word

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mmm

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i always get confused with what counts as a hit

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like i dont think dots count iirc

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always have the idea in my head that a hit is only shit that uses accuracy

agile hemlock
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Everything that deals damage is either a hit, or damage over time

atomic glacier
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ah so its that simple

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kind of thinking going vortex hierophant and i just mana stack or some shit

agile hemlock
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That should be vaguely playable with vortex of projection, but manastacking on a skill with 170% DE seems miserable

atomic glacier
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whys that

somber isle
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cuz 170% is not a lot of multiplier

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and mana stacking is balanced for skills with more multiplier

atomic glacier
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the more i can learn about spells the better cuz i always want to make a spell build but theyre always cooked when i make em

somber isle
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and then idk it depends on the spell

atomic glacier
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and dots cant crit for spells right

somber isle
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they can with a keystone

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that converts ur crit multi into dot multi

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but in general no

atomic glacier
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this game is so fuckin complicated i love it

somber isle
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this would also apply to poison

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inflicted with melee

agile hemlock
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Damage Effectiveness determines how much damage a skill gets from added damage. If you add 100 damage to discharge, discharge will deal 600 extra damage, since it has a DE of 600%.

Since manastacking usually means you're casting the spell by hand, cast speed also matters

Ice nova of frostbolts, the premier manastacker skill has, due to hitting multiple times, a DE of around 2000%/s. So vortex would be about 10x weaker

atomic glacier
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damn

somber isle
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u can still scale it in other ways tho

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just not with added damage

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or like, it's not great to use added damage

sudden locust
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does the type of food you send to a port affect currency received back?

agile hemlock
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Two important notes

  • added damage doesn't work for cold dot at all, tho indigon is a thing you can do.
  • it's important to make a distinction between dots and damaging ailments. All damaging ailments are dots, but not vice versa, but perfect agony (the aforementioned keystone) only applies to ailments, not all dots. If you want to scale the dot from vortex, there's no way to use crits.
atomic glacier
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ok i figured you couldnt use crits

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good to know

unreal beacon
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Got 1%ed

somber isle
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for added lightning

agile hemlock
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Honestly, just going for spell damage cold gem level wand, replica Dragonfang (or +1/2 dot multi amulet ) and a 6 link, maybe with a cold snap to help single target, you should be good for probably red maps.

somber isle
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xd

agile hemlock
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Well, that still doesn't help the dot

somber isle
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ofc

atomic glacier
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imma have to think on this for a bit

somber isle
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build making is mostly just trying shit out as you level up

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and finding things u can do

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u could never like

atomic glacier
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oh yeah ive made a few builds now

somber isle
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plan it without playing it

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that would be hell