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[indigo lotus]

it's just condensed

[alpine fulcrum]

so im fine to run it on a beach or something?

i find toxic sewers to be nasty to run with eater altars

too easy to eat a faceful of proj

[indigo lotus]

yeah whatever you're comfortable with. it's just more time efficient to do on narrow maps

you wont be losing on rewards

[alpine fulcrum]

yea but if i can clear fine on a beach it doesnt matter right

[indigo lotus]

yep

[alpine fulcrum]

cool thanks!

[indigo lotus]

on narrow maps it just takes way less time for portals to spawn if they get condensed

it may spawn 2 3x portals rather than several waves of 6 total for example

[rocky forge]

What happens if i hit "take all" the shipment rewards if there is more rewards than my inventory can hold?

[indigo lotus]

it takes as much as you can hold

[carmine kraken]

yea I can see that as a "help" but it has drawbacks, for example I needed the ore and now I need to run maps again because all my ore was smelted while I was away 😦

[indigo lotus]

yeah i gotcha. miners are significantly faster than smelters though so you should have a net count of ores over bars but if oyu're going afk for a while it can cause problems

[alpine fulcrum]

is that still the case with immune response?

[indigo lotus]

yep still the case

same monster count, but literally just a time save for waiting for the portals themselves to spawn

[alpine fulcrum]

i hate the tight maps so much lol

[indigo lotus]

you dont have to at all, do whatevers comfortable

just a minor timesave if you're blasting

[somber isle]

I like the blight thing that makes tower get salvaged, but building different tower types is sooo hard

some towers just completely suck

[stable yoke]

If a miner is in position, but not working are they still taking their wage?

[somber isle]

anything you see in maps is very likely "fake", just the animation

pretty sure what actually matters for wage calculations is the management page

if there is nothing to mine, they do not take a wage

[stable yoke]

I mean in my town. Like there's a miner there, nothing to mine, but they aren't under the "idle" tab

Ok great 👌

[somber isle]

in general, every activity stops consuming wage when there is nothing left to do, except for farming, since farming never ends

anyway does anybody have a spreadsheet for like, worker gold efficiency? maybe the ranges on each tier etc?

[stable yoke]

I was wondering about that, am I meant to be having the farmers going 24/7? Cause it's bleeding my gold
Still on campaign tho

[somber isle]

I mean it's a choice

the "food" things farmers produce will provide you with currency items

while the ore provide various things depending on the place you ship to

(spoiler)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1gtB0hPJeVA2JolLddvlp_dXywDfMHGenzJ3O6bW7l8A/htmlview?gid=0&pli=1#gid=0

[stable yoke]

Whoaaaaaaa ok

Didn't realize it was that deterministic

[somber isle]

ya

[stable yoke]

🙏

[languid ore]

I can't progress in the league mechanic past the very beginning. I've done the league mechanic most areas (on act 6) and I still don't have any orichalcum ore. I've seen the word "orichalcum" pop up a couple times when I've done the league mechanic. I'm confused as to what I'm doing wrong?

[indigo lotus]

its random

[celest turret]

You get it in higher level areas

[indigo lotus]

the higher tiers are rarer

keep going youll get it

[languid ore]

I only have level 1 recruiting

[indigo lotus]

you're not gonna be maxed out halfway through the campaign man

[languid ore]

I am positive I'm doing something wrong

It's not about the rate of progress

[indigo lotus]

theres nothing to even do wrong

just upgrade stuff as you get the resources for it. if you dont have the resources yet, keep going until you find them

[languid ore]

I don't have any of the other stuff set up at all either - I haven't found any crimson iron ore

So I'm just not supposed to be able to engage with the league mechanic until maps? That's what's currently happening

That's why I'm asking

[indigo lotus]

what do you mean you dont have any

have you found crimson ore deposits and cleared them?

[languid ore]

I have ore to mine

[indigo lotus]

they need to be mined by workers, go to kingsmarch and set up mining, assign some miners to it

theyll be mined over time

[languid ore]

I cannot because I do not have any crimson iron ore

[indigo lotus]

make sure theres gold in the kingsmarch treasury or they wont work

[celest turret]

There's still a lot more to engage with before you get that ore. You just need to hold off on some upgrades until you nget it

[languid ore]

No I think I am being misunderstood

I literally have not been able to start mining yet

I don't have any crimson iron ore and I have to mine it to get it? I'm confused haha

[indigo lotus]

it's literally only gold to establish mining

no ores needed for level 1

[languid ore]

That's why I'm asking, I must be doing something wrong

[indigo lotus]

you have mining established already

go over to it and click the billbaord by it

assign some guys and theyll mine for you

[languid ore]

OK, I figured it out, I hadn't set up anything with recruiting people yet - I wasn't aware I had to recruit people

[indigo lotus]

check out the league showcase video they did for the league reveal, they go over the basics, you should be able to figure everything out from there

[languid ore]

it's 45 minutes long?

that one?

[indigo lotus]

that one. not all of it is the mechanic

[languid ore]

noted

thank you

[indigo lotus]

o7

[somber isle]

Does "different tower type" mean the 6 categories? (fire, lightning, stun...)
Or do the tier 4 tower specializations also count? Do levels count?

[indigo lotus]

doesnt seem documented anywhere, but i'd assume the former i guess

[pastel tartan]

how can i craft fortify on hit?

[indigo lotus]

its likely from the runesmithing table in kingsmarch, you probably need to increase its level to unlock it

[somber isle]

Only on daggers tho

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/List_of_runesmithing_enchantments

[pastel tartan]

need on chest

[indigo lotus]

you can only runesmith on weapons

[pastel tartan]

im not talking about runesmith tho

[somber isle]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Fortification#Sources_of_Fortification

[indigo lotus]

doesnt look like it's gettable on chestpiece

if its in some pob you're using im guessing someone cheated lol

[winter elk]

anyone know what that gate with the boulder thing is in jungle valley?

[warped trellis]

Cool, but how do I know HOW MUCH do I need?!

[indigo lotus]

lol

[somber isle]

more, clearly xd

[faint ravine]

Just rescue tbh

[sonic stirrup]

Can get via eldritch implicit. Someone should update the wiki page to include that

[warped trellis]

Its grayed out, cannot click

[sonic canyon]

Did you already try to rescue them and fail?

And if not, what does the tooltip say?

[plain field]

Hey I'm just wondering if fubby got nailed for the alleged exploit/abuse? I mean he kindof admitted guilt when he said just let GGG decide, that wasn't even a denial lol

[indigo lotus]

who

[warped trellis]

Literally nothing. No I didn't think I clicked on rescue already. I have 17K gold in the bank ATM.
https://i.imgur.com/6LiNsNl.mp4

[indigo lotus]

hmm

worth a bug report i guess

[desert plaza]

hey, guys. Maybe noob question but what build (i have duelist and ranger) can i play for farming blight in maps with good clear + clear map also?

[indigo lotus]

anything with explosions are really nice for blight

so gladiator bleed explosions should be decent, youll struggle for single target a bit but its good for mapping

[haughty oracle]

so it seems 55 dust sent with shipments is enoug to get 2x the value ? and it only goes to 2,5x value over 550 dust ?

[indigo lotus]

its not a linear scale yeah

3x is like 8k dust

[warped trellis]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3539926 Done. I'll keep farming gold I guess and see if I can ransom.

[indigo lotus]

good luck

[warped trellis]

There was my best crew on there I'd rather not abandon it lol

[neat cloak]

How do I set prices for bulk sales?

[indigo lotus]

on the currency exchange?

[charred light]

If you get good with towers you can do blight with basically any build, just learn how to spot choke points and use a variety of towers so that immunities don't screw you over

[neat cloak]

@indigo lotus no

Like this

[indigo lotus]

i know some people list entire tabs but i dont know the process on that

it might involve TFT

[stuck basalt]

best league start in a while, if it still counts as league start

[indigo lotus]

damn nice

whats your farming method

[stuck basalt]

alch and go atm lmao

[indigo lotus]

on t16s?

[stuck basalt]

yea

[indigo lotus]

dope

[stuck basalt]

doing harvest/expedition

[indigo lotus]

looks like those t16 map enhancements are kicking in

[outer zenith]

Are there any transfigured gems that are selling really well?

[indigo lotus]

https://poe.ninja/economy/settlers/skill-gems?level=1&corrupted=No&gemType=Normal

lacerate of haemorrage, ica nova of frostbolts, frostblink of wintry blast are the big ones

[lilac granite]

its real my slave died on ship? xD

[ashen bay]

Ok so this is a thought that has crossed my mind...
What if... we don't send any shipments at all early and we spend all the gold on upgrades.
When things are upgraded then shipments are more cost effective.
So we send shipments when shipyard is fully upgraded

[indigo lotus]

well the issue is that you really want to fill out the port quotas

every one you clear makes the next one bigger

and therefore more efficient

[warped trellis]

There's a portal that spawns when you click on 'rescue'? Cant see it in town

[ashen bay]

but shipyard upgrades also makes the port quotas better

so sending them early is still inefficient

[somber isle]

not really

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1gtB0hPJeVA2JolLddvlp_dXywDfMHGenzJ3O6bW7l8A/htmlview?gid=0&pli=1#gid=0

like yeah the quota can double what you get

but if what you get is not what you want

it might be less efficient

[charred light]

are runes considered currency for these rewards?

[sage quartz]

no idea! still watching his video, sec will share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RA84_LdoXU

maybe he says, idk yet

[charred light]

I have seen that the karui ports give tattoos where the kalguuri ports give runes

[sage quartz]

https://imgur.com/gallery/ziggyds-poe-settlers-of-kalguur-shipping-cheat-sheet-notes-aLOZPpf

theres a full pdf link there that its turning into a single image

the pdf is a full guide on it

the link is also in the video

[fast oxide]

Why does the pirate boss have such an insane amount of health when I’m only in yellow maps?

[sage quartz]

ALWAYS send atleast 55 dust

not really worh it for more

55 dust= 2x reward value
550 dust= 2.5x reward value
8,000 dust= 3x reward value

unless you're rich with dust

[ashen bay]

dumped tons of inventories into that disenchanted dude, sitting on like 100k+ that i have no other way of using xD

probably wasted tons of gold on it though...

[vestal mortar]

Is it good for anything else? got like 500k of that shit lol

[sage quartz]

so pour 8k dust into all your shipments! big value! 👀

[vestal mortar]

Then you can't send anywhere near as much shit or it pops the risk up

[sage quartz]

big risk big reward

[vestal mortar]

sure...

[ashen bay]

Btw have we gotten any guidelines for good and bad wages for workers?
i've started on an excel sheet to get some ideas of whether the wages are good and bad so i know who to hire when rerolling workers.
But would be nice if this already existed

there are a lot of numbers on that worker hiring list, i get blinded.
so need some context to the numbers to make informed choices

[sage quartz]

gold is so plentiful

2 maps and I have over 1 day in reserves

[ashen bay]

there are many different ways to spend the gold, so i think it still makes sense to not waste it at the very least.
there are some workers i've seen who has almost twice the wage that they should have

[sage quartz]

Okie

[vestal mortar]

Lol I'm constantly broke but most of my town is upgraded

to like at least 9 or 10, h alf maxed

except for recomb and rune

[dusky kernel]

Gold feels bad until you have all the upgrades then it fine

But when you're like halfway and you're trying to save the 700k or whatever to get all the upgrades it feels real bad

[ashen bay]

I tried to make the point earlier that it may be worth just not sending shipments at all until you have the upgrade.
atleast the shipyard upgrades.
Would you agree with that?

[dusky kernel]

Depends. I think shipping requires all 11 to make profit. Everything until then is you setting up for that end game. You need everything else to make that happen to hit quotas and that is time gated. I'd say don't send big shipments and keep it low levels

[charred light]

gold feels fine if you're not rushing upgrades, but it's a very different pace than other POE mechanics

[dusky kernel]

Because the favored resources balloon quite fast anyways tho so it's probably fine to let shipping rot until you can buy it all but it's gonna feel bad not having the main league mechanics giving you pings every hour

[charred light]

I got unlucky with verisium and was softlocked in upgrading town for a bit and built a massive stockpile of gold

[fickle latch]

hey im a bit confused it says there are no more ores to mine, what am i supposed to do?

[ashen bay]

Is it worth to delay upgrades then?
why? how?

[dusky kernel]

Find them in maps?

Are you not clicking them I'm confused

[fickle latch]

oh nvm sorry i thought they mine them through the shaft

[sonic canyon]

If you don't have ore, get more ore in the world/maps

[fickle latch]

im sorry

[sonic canyon]

The Delve mineshaft is entirely unrelated.

[fickle latch]

ok thank you!

[charred light]

delaying upgrades isn't better than rushing them, but you will feel very starved for gold as the upgrades scale faster than your first character can generate gold from mapping

[dusky kernel]

It's fine it was just confusing like did you somehow ignore the entire league mechanics was where I was going lol

[charred light]

I'm mostly applying a mindset I learned from other automation games though, I tend to secure resources first before teching up

[fickle latch]

yeah no i thought that was just a way to get extra material lol i thought they would constinantyl mine from the shaft

[ashen bay]

I think this makes sense in many other games because the resources you get there is required for upgrades.
So if that was to translate here then ships would return with materials that were required to upgrade your stations.
But that is not the case, except with runesmithing (and to a very small degree)

[dusky kernel]

There's a large shipping guide on Reddit.

https://reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1effp3q/ultimate_kingsmarch_shipping_guide/

[worldly nova]

Oh shit this is dope

[gentle perch]

WTB Guardian Turtle

[zenith fjord]

Is kirac not giving missions yet?

:T

not fixed?

[sonic canyon]

There's nothing broken about getting Kirac missions to my knowledge.

[wheat gale]

do yall know if the favored resources multiplier applies to all items in the shipment or just the ones they want?

[royal siren]

Can anyone explain me how this ratio shown works?
Does it show similiar auctions ?
Or opposite ones buy orders?

[ashen bay]

Looks like the multiplier is specific to an item type.
Are you asking if you still get the multiplier if you send more of that resource than what they are asking for?

[idle ruin]

What league starters turned out to be really good and what ones turned out to be bait this league?

I am making a late start and at least want to use that knowledge to my advantage

[royal siren]

Lightining strike slayer rlly cheap to start and goood. But man upgrades for this build are min 12 divs 😄 for amulet. 18 div for cluster, 20 div for lethal pride

Friend plays icenova frostbolt archmage, but that also requires 2 divines for gems to start

[ashen bay]

Lots of people recommended it, i wonder if the price shot up because of the popularity or because the build just requires very good items?
i'm asking cause im in SSF so the first factor does not apply to me.

[wheat gale]

nah, just if it applied to all items in the shipment. thought not

[idle ruin]

any of the initial league starters that turned out to not work?

[south breach]

Yeah I went Ball Lightning of Orbiting build cause couldn't get Ice Nova of Frostbolts . It's not that bad

[junior belfry]

When does the timer for the shipments actually run down? Is it real time? Or only when in game or in a map?

[normal plume]

Which league mechanics have people been finding useful for dropping more gold in maps? I've noticed some league mobs drop gold less often than others

[south breach]

Real time

[junior belfry]

So I must be doing something wrong. I sent my first shipment and the timer is at 36:32 but doesn’t move at all.

[south breach]

You still need to have gold in the treasury

That might be why

[junior belfry]

Aha thank you!!! That was driving me nuts

[south breach]

Everyone's been on that Expedition stuff from I watched. I've been doing Harvest + Expedition myself. Gotten some good currency from Expedition.

The Incursion league seems ok too... problem with some league's is that you miss out on ore deposition for your town

Like Delving seems like a waste of time

[clear tree]

ALWAYS check what your mapper give you ahaha
(I did not do any craft on it ahahahah)

[fleet totem]

does 1 crimson ore count as much as 1 crimson bar when sending them to other countries/continents? aka will I get more rewards for sending a bar instead of an ore?

[normal plume]

Yeah I do want to stay in maps

[normal plume]

Bars count as 5 ore for fulfilling port orders so I imagine it's similar for increasing rewards too

So like if it says they want 1000 Crimson Iron you can fulfill the order with 200 bars

[ashen bay]

i'm curious cause i tried to use the workers to map for a while.
Does it look like it's worth it to you based on the high wages?

[fleet totem]

thx m8

so it doesnt make sense to ever send ores instead of bars

[south breach]

So I've been over shipping this whole time

[fleet totem]

same...

unfortunately haha

[south breach]

Does Crimson Iron and other low tier deposit only occure in low tier maps or something? I upgraded my town and stuff and I seem to get a lot of high tier deposits in my maps.

[fleet totem]

but thats also a good aspect of new leagues if you ask me, to improve and learn by doing mistakes. discovering what the league mechanic is about

love it

[normal plume]

Yeah I found that out yesterday and was like "oops, good to know"

[south breach]

I'm fine with that... my problem now is every port wants crimson or orichalcum... and all I get in my maps are the high tier ores

[clear tree]

For me completly wast of time as long as they are not lvl 7-8 doing red map

[normal plume]

Yeah engaging with the community to figure out all the wrinkles of the league mechanics is fun

[south breach]

Oh a Youtube video went up with more info earlier today I saw. You guys should check it out. Look up ZiggyD Gaming

More info on the shipment mechanics

[ashen bay]

i had them doing white maps, it was a huge waste of gold from my experience.

How much gold/hour does it cost for your crew to do red maps like this?

[clear tree]

like 12-15k, but it's so quick that you can only do it while your online

but yeah gold is hard, specialy cause some farming dont get any gold (Like Raveged blight made me sooo poor)

[ashen bay]

Are they reaching 100% map completion most of the time?

[clear tree]

nah; depends; like half of the time

[ashen bay]

to me it seemed pretty cheap to be able to make them do maps, but became very expensive to reach a guranteed 100% completion

[ashen bay]

thanks for the info, i'll probably hold off on it until i have a lot of red maps and maybe if i find mappers with low wages

[violet nymph]

Can I just put all my gold in kingsmarch? Or is there any consequence of that

[waxen eagle]

is this a good ring setup?

[exotic forum]

A lot of people have been. 🙃

I started out overshipping bars but that was during acts.

The 5x count note is tucked away in a tooltip

It'd be nice if the ui showed you the quota for the selected port, and how much the allocated cargo would apply to that quota

So you'd quickly know "oh, this says I'm at 5000/1000 crimson" that's too much.

[junior ore]

How does the market works? I mean:

If i want to sell Enkindling Orb for chaos, it say the ratio is 1:100

If i want to sell Chaos for Enkindling orb, it say the ratio is 3.31:1

Shouldn't be the same ratio?

[exotic forum]

Cause well... your average user isn't going to read every tool tip in the game.

[somber isle]

Why the hell can atlas runners not even run white, normal maps

what loot does it even give

[waxen eagle]

Mine gave me a Kalandra's touch in a T2 map

[somber isle]

ok but like on average

[ashen bay]

it's pretty terrible even when they are able to complete it.
The wages on those map runnes are very high.
If you scroll up then you will see my talk with another guy who said that it starts to get beter when they run red maps and you get tier 7-8 workers.

[somber isle]

💀

[waxen eagle]

It's pretty decent, at least from an SSF perspective. Lots of bubblegum stuff

But generally on average the league mechanic isn't very rewarding, but still fun

[somber isle]

"bubblegum stuff"?

[waxen eagle]

Wouldn't bother with it before you can hire 7+ runners though, they can at least runs t6 maps and stuff - focus on upgrading the town first

[somber isle]

yeah no kidding

[ashen bay]

i do agree that it's fun though.
I think what they need to do is make it easier for the mappers to complete the maps and lower their wages a fair bit.

They don't really need to buff the rewards, atleast not on lower tier maps.

[somber isle]

yeah like every other thing has decent low-entry

this is like

u just unlocked mapping? FK U XD!

[waxen eagle]

rank 10 runners are insanely pricey, you cannot keep up with their wages unless you farm non-stop or run synth maps over and over again

[ashen bay]

i was paying 3000 gold/hour for 4mappers, they were barely able to complete blue tier 2 maps

[somber isle]

do you know if anybody made a spreadsheet of prices of workers?

[ashen bay]

it was horrible

[somber isle]

at that point you might as well just use gold on black market

for better drop

xd

[waxen eagle]

Just get lucky

[somber isle]

that's the entire game tho

[waxen eagle]

Yeah, currently 2k fusing deep into 6linking my chest, would've probably been faster to just farm einhar...

[somber isle]

just get lucky xd

[waxen eagle]

[ashen bay]

Also keep in mind that ships can return with items that are up to item level 86.

But mappers will only return with items that matches the area of the map you put in.

[somber isle]

💀

[ashen bay]

so gold spent on ships and shipments seems much better

[somber isle]

for gear probably yah

I mean ground loot fking sucks

if mappers are giving u stuff from ground loot pool? idk

[waxen eagle]

Ships are better, yeah. Especially since they're like the only (reliable) source for tattoos

[ashen bay]

I do hope that they will reduce the cost of linking sockets someday.

I kinda want to just find a really good chest piece and equip it rather than getting stuck consider whether it's even worth 6 linking it.

in most cases it seems more worth to get a 6 link through div cards or other means and then trying to craft stats instead.

Poe 2 will not have this problem

[waxen eagle]

I mean linking is gone in PoE 2

[ashen bay]

i'm curious how that will feel

[waxen eagle]

And there are lots of ways to get 6ls in the game

Ships are a good source, too

I've got like five already and didn't even focus on armor items

[ashen bay]

you got 6 links from shipments?
i only got 5 links so far, how much shipment value did you send?

[waxen eagle]

500k at most, haven't put too much time into the town yet

But you gotta send ores which result in armor, shipment value barely matters. You won't get 6ls if you send ores which gives you jewelry and stuff :D

I'd wish this information would be more available in game

[pearl nymph]

is it worth hiring rank 8 workers or just 9/10?

[ashen bay]

My take on this is that it's actually more important to look at the wages since they roll randomly in a large range and they will decide that workers product/gold.

[pearl nymph]

I see

I might look for 8+ then looking at the wages

[ashen bay]

i don't know if we have any good overview yet for what wages can be considered good for what ranks in what professions, i sort of started making a cheat sheet for myself.

i would expect something like this to be released in the near future by the community (hopefully)

[indigo lotus]

also worth noting how many hours you'd need to pay the worker to pay off the constant rolling trying to get better wage workers compared to just any worker ofthat level

[pearl nymph]

maybe ziz ou zigd or just on reddit

[ashen bay]

ye, i tried to sort of find an average.
Like when it comes to farming my rule now is that the worker should atleast be able to gather 1 blue zanthimum per 2 gold.

i will not hire farmers that requires higher pay.

so i'm not looking for "perfectly rolled" wages

[indigo lotus]

what has this league done to you

[ashen bay]

it's okay, i can probably be hired as the next Manager in my local Amazon warehouse

[indigo lotus]

"i will not hire farmers that require higher pay" something a poorly written business villain would say

[ashen bay]

i would just tell them that it's a free country and if they don't like it then they can simply go work for someone else, then not mentioned that i own every other company in the industry.
Good luck to them muhahahaha

[indigo lotus]

hit em with "theres no such thing as a free lunch" on the way out

[ashen bay]

i also work with law makers to ensure that compliance and quality standards can only be met by our company

[timid solstice]

what parameters do I have to put into poe trade to find rune enchanted weapons?

[coarse bridge]

anyone know why my gold isnt showing on the ground but its showing on the map?

[ashen bay]

There is a bug that has been in the game for a very long time where the item text for dropped items are shifted far away on the screen.
It's possible that this is the problem you are seeing.

It can be corrected by toggling it off and then on again

[exotic forum]

What you can afford to have. Remembering that this is still what... first week of the league?

[ashen bay]

Press Z twice

[pearl nymph]

fair enough. no need to rush

[exotic forum]

I started logging this info 😄

Esp considering production rage remains the same regardless if wage.

My most cost efficient so far is still a few 1s and 2s

Though, I'm starting to get to where I can sustain more shit

[coarse bridge]

z didnt do anything lol

[ashen bay]

Woudl you mind sharing your numbers?

For example for farming i used blue zanthimum as the benchmark.

For gold/hour i just took the cheapest wages from my workers, then i caclulated the product / gold.

Then i found an approximate target of 2 zanthimums per 2 gold so i got te target gold/hour values.

i have no rank 5 farmers sadly 😦

[ashen bay]

hmm.... hard to say what the problem is.
The other possibility is that the item text is turned off, but Z would have fixed that by just presasing it once so i'm not really sure what the problem is i'm afraid

[fading cedar]

380 gold/hour for a Rank 7 Farmer. Too expensive?

[ashen bay]

according to my numbers the answer would be that it is a bit more expensive than it should be, but i'm working from a small sample size though.
So take it with a grain of salt

[pulsar depot]

I think the game is telling me something https://i.gyazo.com/78024210308ee8e764f747ebb5ca5cfb.jpg

[untold frigate]

I think I regret upgrading to Rank 6. Rerolling is getting way too expensive to come out even 😱

I mean, I guess it's not too bad, but I don't know if I'll be ranking up anytime soon.

[sturdy ravine]

damage with bows and damage with bows skills, 2 different things?

[cunning creek]

hey, how can I stop smelting Verisium that I need ore for upgrading buildings?
I already removed workers, but they still make bars somehow

[untold frigate]

'damage with bow” is broader and includes all damage dealt with a bow, while “damage with bow skills” is more specific and only applies to skill gems that are explicitly tagged as bow skills.

[untold frigate]

If you have workers on empty ores marked to mine, they will start mining other ores. So you have to remove all of your workers into idle

[tall jungle]

Where, if anywhere, are people recommended to make suggetions regarding the new settlers features?

(And please tell me not a forum that requires me to create another account... 🤣 )

[untold frigate]

Go check the main menu in-game and see if there's a feedback option. Otherwise, head to the path of exile forum and login in with your steam account. No need to set up a new account.

[neon elk]

50k gold is still showing not enough for ransom to not show insufficient, really need to show how much. Also a bit ridic for a buggy encounter that just ejects you, eats your single portal, or vaporizes you with nothing on screen by all reports

[agile hemlock]

it's always showing you the opposite orders, so if all the sane orders are fulfilled, and someone just made a copium offer and it's been there for several days, you'll see that

[tall jungle]

Pelase tell me you're jokinga botu the main menu and I didn't literally look at the menu and miss it before posting 🤣

[grizzled moon]

the league is out, theres not gonna be crazy changes

maybe slight adjustments to already existing systems

[ashen bay]

Just noticed the last mining upgrade

Marking Ore in Areas grants Gold equal to the amount of Ore
This should be a pretty solid 1k+ gold bonus to every higher tier map i think (?)

[agile hemlock]

yea

[pseudo sage]

could this be of any use or disenchant

[fading cedar]

Probably disenchant as no attack speed

However, you need to show the base to make a full assessment 😛

[ashen bay]

"any use" really depends on the context, are you asking if it can be used for certain build? otherwise you could try to ask for a price check

if it's valuable then it's probably useful to someone

[pseudo sage]

yeah, that basically. but i think ill just scrap it

has a few good stats but low tier

[red stone]

id scroll into block chance slam, just as chris intended

[cinder light]

help! im not getting amber?

[grizzled moon]

need to mark amber for them to mine

you'll find it in the world

[cinder light]

oh, those things with the 3 pods?

is it just find one and its unlocked?

[untold frigate]

The more you collect, the more you can mine.

[cinder light]

hmm, so they have a duration?

[eager holly]

Amber is I think the tree one. So you'll just need to click on it and defend it from some attackers. It'll have a health bar, the more the attackers hit it the less you get.

[cinder light]

i'm still in 3rd act

[untold frigate]

The trees can have up to around 170 or less amber to collect.
Not sure if they go higher than that

[outer gate]

Figured out a pesky "bug" or unintended feature idk which 😅
If you set a worker (Smelting) to smelt a specific type of ore (in my case Verisium)
Then change the type of ore smelted to another (Bismuth)
And you run out of bismuth that worker will start to smelt its previously allocated type which royally kept messing me over as i was trying to save ore for upgrades.

[ashen bay]

i think they go up much more as you reach higher tier maps in endgame.

[outer gate]

i got 500+ veins by t14+

[versed flax]

I really just dropped a ralakesh's impatience and went "oh it's just this unique"... not knowing it's 25d currently lmao

[agile hemlock]

lul

OP item frfr

[ashen bay]

if they run out of the type they are assigned to then they will start to smelt any other type that is available.
You don't have to reassign them

[outer gate]

It picks the recently assigned ore type and its really annoying

[agile hemlock]

still T1 unique tho

[twilit willow]

Sadge 😢

[plush coyote]

is black market the same as gwennen?

[agile hemlock]

Way better outcomes

[plush coyote]

i thought it was only up to rare items until i dropped a unique

[agile hemlock]

But you don't see the base

[ashen bay]

it's sad, but tbf i think you may be playing very high risk here.
try to get some more and better crew on these ships

doin't play with 50/50 coinflip risks

[twilit willow]

Yeah Shipment A was 2 IV 2 V second was 3 V 1 III

[outer gate]

Its also way easier to farm gold then specific expedition currency imo

[twilit willow]

It is what it is tbh

They were 200k~ shipments a pop

[loud sequoia]

Anyone know how to get a scourge modifier on an item?

[fading bear]

where do i find the thingie that let's you have a chance at opening blight chests multiple times?

[hoary pulsar]

idk if it's me but lacerate feels slow mapping, mainly due to the aoe size

[exotic forum]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bq0SeSjEvuMt_knPoZHkOYISkfpJKs0-eUGStrXulUk/edit?usp=sharing

probably not the best structure but didn't really have an idea for a neat way of doing multi-class workers

[pastel void]

whats the best harvest scarab setup im getting pretty pitiful amounts like 90 drops doubled

With t15

and atlas speced into modifier and other things

[somber isle]

If a worker is a certain tier, let's say tier 3, do they always work the same speed as other tier 3 workers?

I assume yes but who the fk knows

[glad ermine]

guys can unique items drop already annointed from a map? did they add that in recently?

[blissful onyx]

Yes. But they can charge a different rate

[somber isle]

aight

[blissful onyx]

Talismans drop with anoints

[glad ermine]

can a unique drop with an annoint ever though?

[blissful onyx]

Some can yes

[prisma sigil]

Does anyone know what the "haunted by tormented spirits" wand enchant does?

[exotic forum]

production is skill-based, wages are not.

[somber isle]

I assume if a worker has multiple skills, only the skill relevant to the work matters for productivity?

So a worker with tier 3 everything is the same as tier 3 farming worker if you put him in farming?

dumb questions but, just making sure to cover all bases

[exotic forum]

a worker with tier 3 everything would have tier 3 farming 😄

[somber isle]

yes

that's the example

[exotic forum]

but yea, Rank 5 smelter Rank 4 Miner as a miner will produce the same as a worker that is just a rank 4 miner

I haven't seen it personally, but maybe say... a Disenchanter/Miner could maybe roll a lower wage than a regular Disenchanter might

I know disenchanters cost a hell of a lot in general

and a worker having multiple skills doesn't necessarily mean they'll cost more

Disenchanting    2    60    Yes
Disenchanting    2    60    No```

Perfect example sort of ^ although on the lower end of things

the lines ending with "Yes" were a single worker that was Mining 3 Disenchanting 2, with a wage of 60

and then a worker that was just Disenchanting 2, wage of 60 as well

so it could just be rolled within the the highest wage range available among the skills the worker has

or its a wider range that's skewed to more commonly be within that higher range

[bold spade]

Is there a consolidated list of all the upgrades for the buildings somewhere? I'm trying to find out the max level for the buildings but am only getting weird tier lists lol

Might be googling the wrong words but still

[somber isle]

ye go to wiki search kingsmarch

[bold spade]

Dang I'm dumb

Thanks

[bright wren]

just came here to talk about the bit of research i just did for farming production rates

farming skill | wheat produced (before farming speed upgrades)

I | 20/h
II | 30/h (1.5x I)
III | 50/h (2.5x I)
IV | 80/h (4x I)
V | 120/h (6x I)

i used this to even out all of my farming plots to produce about the same amount each

[exotic forum]

slight issue i ran into with figuring out just a straight multiplier

is rounding

Seen a few x.5 values that round down and some that round up

[indigo lotus]

time for a 500k crop shipment, lets see if we get lucky

[low vigil]

These mappers are keeping all the gold for themselves and still want some gold/hr

[indigo lotus]

and they still demand salary lol

those damn greedy cashiers and their tips

aint it enough to die in a parallel universe and pick up shit off the floor

[tawny fractal]

Do we happen to know what league mechanics drop gold?

[indigo lotus]

anything that has enemies that drop items

[exotic forum]

that being said

more mobs more gold

Probably a lot of gold for blight maps too

[plucky jewel]

anyone know why bloodnotch skyrocketd in price and is now back down?

[eager sedge]

how do I tell if a worker has started mining? On the mining board, the timer is not running

[worthy temple]

Is Verisium supposed to be super rare or something? I found a bunch yesterday, but today I did like 50 maps at least (whites, yellows, reds) without a single Verisium

[somber isle]

dude. are ritual rewards just dogshit?

I'm considering not even doing rituals anymore

[blissful onyx]

Spec into them

Then the rewards are better

[somber isle]

every other mechanic has at least decent rewards with 0 spec into it

why is ritual shit by default

[blissful onyx]

Not really

[somber isle]

yes really

[blissful onyx]

Most mechs are shit by default except maybe expedition

[somber isle]

at least other mechanics have specific rewards

like ultimatum

[blissful onyx]

There’s some good corpses in ritual

[somber isle]

or breach, or alva, or fking anything

[blissful onyx]

They’re just not as popular right now

Well do those then

Ritual is mostly a juicing mechanism

[somber isle]

well I kinda wanna do all of them

juicing?

wdym

[blissful onyx]

Each altar adds a bunch of mobs to the map

More mobs more loot

[somber isle]

I guess the xp yea

[blissful onyx]

XP and stuff like deli layers

Occasionally you can get some decent currency or cards from the altars too

[somber isle]

btw I wanted to ask

if you shock an enemy, and you hit them again with a shocking hit for the same amount of damage

do they get shocked for more

since they took more damage

[blissful onyx]

Not necessarily

[somber isle]

wdym it's a yes or no question

if I hit an enemy with 1000 lightning crit, and they get shocked for 30%, and I hit them again with another 1000 lightning crit, do they now get shocked for more?

[blissful onyx]

Shock ailment is based on damage dealt not damage taken

The mob is taking more damage because it’s shocked but you’re not dealing more damage

[somber isle]

ok so no

thank you

[hazy summit]

is there a good place for bug reports

[blissful onyx]

The forums

[crimson dove]

is veritisium bugged for anyone else?

I have done several veritisium and I have no ore marked

[pastel void]

Aparrently your sailors can die with no risk

[swift mesa]

they stole ur loot and ran

[feral merlin]

which one should i get? 15 prem stash or the 40 one

[pastel void]

Na the npc said one guy died in a tavern fight darn drunkards

[somber isle]

me when the the the when the dust

[proud vessel]

The only fear i have while shipping is government demand 50% package

[acoustic pike]

Why would you send that much dust?

adding it to every shipment is good, but it has severe diminishing returns

[pastel void]

My idea was it increased the quality of returns

As well

Also I had a ton

[somber isle]

It multiplies the value of your shipment by 3x at 8000 dust, past that it hardly goes to 3.5x

maybe at like 100k dust or something lmao

[pastel tartan]

these stats on a weapon, they scaled based on my build or they are purely flat? like im scaling with cold, the cold would be more beneficial?

[somber isle]

it's inversely exponential, basically

[somber isle]

wat.

they are flat, but they can further be increased

[devout osprey]

if youre scaling cold dmg then the flat fire and chaos wont be boosted.. and less valuable

[pastel tartan]

got it

[past thistle]

Are tattoos only found from karui shipments in 3.25 or can we also find them in ritual like omens?

[pastel tartan]

ty

[devout osprey]

those flats get boosted by inc cold dmg etc

[pastel tartan]

the more lightning dmg = more chance to shock?

[devout osprey]

yesn't

go here, lots of people can help u, 5am here rn

[somber isle]

yes, lightning dmg will shock based on % of enemy health

(in reality it's not enemy health, it's "shock health", which is lower than health for bosses but equal to health for most things)

also, it's multiplied by effectiveness of non-damaging ailments

so 20% shock -> 30% shock with "+50% effect of non damaging ailments"

[pastel tartan]

what i meant was 20-50 add lightning dmg has less chance to shock than 100-250?

[devout osprey]

no

[somber isle]

there is no "chance to shock" related to damage

[devout osprey]

by default if you crit, you shock.

[somber isle]

damage will scale the shock amount

[pastel tartan]

got it

ty

[somber isle]

shock itself is applied either with "chance to shock" or yeah criting with lightning

if the shock is too small, nothing is applied tho

[dreamy maple]

Just out of curiosity.. do you burn/freeze when you apply that elemental crit respectively?

[somber isle]

yes

freeze same as shock, if too low amount it's discarded

[somber galleon]

Do people still take others through breaches etc to power level?

[somber isle]

dude... "Crit resistant" is sooo fucking dumb

like holy fuck whoever put that in

It's not like "50% less damage from crits", no, of course not, it's "take no extra damage from crits". ok fk my build I guess

also of course sometimes they have regen or "extra life" or some dumb shit with it and it takes 1 minute to kill

it's fine when u can run past but when u have to kill it for some loot or whatever it's just fking bullshit

[grim basalt]

can you leech from dots?

[devout osprey]

no

[somber isle]

idk I was having fun making my own build with the melee changes, got really far this time, but when you're doing fine because of stuns or shock whatever it's fking annoying in the few cases where you can't afford to invest in that

also makes you look into every other build that doesn't have to do that shit or just gets a higher damage effectiveness multiplier

[spice lichen]

look on the brightside it's not enemies cannot be crit

[somber isle]

LMAO

[spice lichen]

it used to be that iirc

[somber isle]

they would, if players wouldn't whine about it

yep

I don't mind having a modifiers that fucks crit builds, but like idk why do some builds get more modifiers like that than others

like attack elemental builds have "blocks attacks", "resists element", "crit resistant", on top of the extra life and energy shield and life regen bullshit

like no wonder every attack meta build is always phys or bleed or poison

[spice lichen]

meta builds tends to be cold, chaos offscreen, or something with silly aoe/coverage or overtunned numbers

[somber isle]

I mean ice shot and tornado shot yea

[tawdry plover]

3 element attacks have been the only style generally for ages

[somber isle]

also the cold thing was cuz of hatred

now that's not a thing anymore

[spice lichen]

cold is because when your paper thin freeze is the old defense you need

[somber isle]

true xd

but the cold attack build is for ranged characters only

you still get fked as melee if you try to do cold, I mean frost blades is... somewhat ranged

I mean the improvements they made to melee are amazing, but there's just so much jank in terms of balance around it still

I hope they keep improving on it

[spice lichen]

hexblast miner, frostblades is fine with enough damage well more specifically speed

[muted briar]

Price check anyone?

[somber isle]

like rn I chose to do (cold/lightning only) wild strike, with evasion/ES and with a claw and shield offhand, as shadow trickster, and I mean I made it to white maps with very little issue and yellow maps easy enough, but red maps is just busting my ballz now

full SSF too

idk maybe if I traded for items I'd be blasting again but probably not

idk, I just wish when I died it was less "oh this enemy 1 shot you because this specific monster deals 5x the damage as every other monster in this area" and more "you were standing in shocked ground", "the map modifiers make you have less res and that enemy has ele damage" - and even then u don't really have the time to like see them on your screen and even check them before u get 1 shot so you just get paranoid and invest in defenses and it still doesn't help

anyway boat league is pretty cool

[spice lichen]

accidentally hit by an corpse explode on the corner of your screen 🙂 from the 1 mob that wasn't shattered

[somber isle]

oh good, yet another "crit resistant" essence monster, b r u h

I'm going back to playing tower defense xd hopefully they don't spawn that shit

[tough prawn]

guys, im using arcanist brand with flame surge and flammability witch works perfectly fine, but since i started using purity of elements, my flame surge and flammability wont go off anymore.. and when i turn off my purity of elements aura, the brand+surge+curse again starts to work, so its like enemies benefit from my purity of elements and ailment immunity.. this is a bug right?

[high fossil]

Sounds more like you're not leaving enough mana unreserved to pay the costs of the triggered skills

[tough prawn]

legend, ty

ure totaly right, im missing mana

[high fossil]

Got space for a lifetap in that setup?

Or you'll need to find more.mana reservation efficiency somewhere

[tough prawn]

sadly no, but since i know whats the problem, im gonna figure it out from here, tyvm ❤️

[lucid dagger]

lmfao, I've already gotten my Town to Rank 11 and I only realized that I totally forgot that Runesmithing exists and that I haven't unlocked it yet

[somber isle]

it's ok, it's just a crafting bench

no workers on it or anything

the levels only unlock different crafts

[rugged comet]

opinions on Seance in fast alch and go in this patch?

or not worth after conversion nerfs

[left oxide]

Hello once again fellow poverty league players

Today i read empy's group got less than 3.8 div/ mapper per hour running uber juiced strats

Poverty league do be poverty-ing

[somber isle]

@left oxide what is ur opinion on the abyss cheese that happened in affliction

that printed a fkton of money

[left oxide]

That was too much loot

[somber isle]

oh ok

[left oxide]

Dosnt change the fact that loot this league is bad

[somber isle]

ngl I was expecting u to be like yes pls more

[somber isle]

r u sure tho? like

[left oxide]

I have resorted to running guaranteed return mechs

Like destructive play

[somber isle]

the boats are going to be giving you loot constantly

[blissful onyx]

I haven’t had an issue but I’ve been kinda lucky I guess

[left oxide]

I have gotten a sum total of 50 chaos or less from boats

[somber isle]

even while logged off u still accumulate currency in the form of food

yeah but

[left oxide]

And i have max port

[somber isle]

it's a long term kind of thing

[blissful onyx]

I’ve gotten 1 div from boats

Plus lots of gumball

[somber isle]

like try to get cheap farmers

like

good resource production/gold used

and also get a bunch of dust

and then send 8000 dust with food to whatever places, doesn't really matter but it's better (from 1x to 2x multiplier) if favored obviously

boats and farming don't cost THAT much gold

[blissful onyx]

It’s 50 dust for a 2x multiplier

[left oxide]

Yea i sent up to 400k ships to kalguur

And i got squat in return

[somber isle]

isn't it 55, and 550 for 2.5x

[left oxide]

Food ships

[blissful onyx]

5000 dust for a 2.54 multiplier

[somber isle]

8000 is the best tho imo

I have so much dust

[somber isle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1gtB0hPJeVA2JolLddvlp_dXywDfMHGenzJ3O6bW7l8A/htmlview?gid=0&pli=1#gid=0

[blissful onyx]

It’s a logarithmic scale

[somber isle]

so is this wrong or

I'm just going to believe the spreadsheet over u

[blissful onyx]

Could be those numbers idr

[somber isle]

either way doesn't rly matter

[blissful onyx]

It’s mostly irrelevant unless you’re sending shipments in the millions

[somber isle]

it's not the ships that matter

it's the shipment value

so u need good boats (lots of slots for workers + good workers) so that bigger shipment value doesn't increase risk

the dust is just there to multiply ur farmer productivity really

they are most useful for bars which are way more limited

but I mean if u want currency that'll give u more currency too

[nimble sun]

do you guys think the 22k high qual reroll for workers is worth?

[somber isle]

idk I never hit it

22k is a lot tho

those mfs better cook and do the dishes too xd

hit it once and see, if disappointed never hit it again I guess

[turbid locust]

okay, bye i guess?

[nimble sun]

gah i just went full dumbo mode and double click portal back out from pirate

so i lost my whole IX crew lineup 😦

i swear i clicked like 5 inches away at least

cuz i was alrdy paranoid from videos

but idk game registered it as if i clicked the portal

guess just gotta dash

[fast oxide]

I like how we are 6 days into the league and nobody has a clue on how loot from boats/map runner device works. Devs must be laughing at us in office

[modern nexus]

Nah im laughing

[tough prawn]

i dont have a V keybind for 5 days now on the league mechanic and there is still no fix around (?) or does anybody know if i can fix it on my own

[flat egret]

whats the cheapest uberekiller this league?

[left oxide]

i get more per map

that i got in all my shipments

from league mechanic

the whole league

idk man

And this is farming ""guarantee drop" mechs

because floor loot is garbo

You know in trailer they showed it giving tons of currency

then they changed it to "upgrade" currency rarity?

well there is a problem with that

things like blessed and regal orbs are nearly divine tier of rarity

how many times have you gotten those? yea several for me :/

and guess what? all your chaos from mechanic? UPGRADED to those

lmao

[cold monolith]

IS arc self cast a good build ?

Im interested in trying one day

[radiant plinth]

Is the map Scrying with the nameless seer permanent? Or just for the 1 map you're running currently?

[left oxide]

permanent afaik

[hot quail]

Havent been good for years, to be honest

[cold monolith]

Sad. Thanks for the answer

[left oxide]

PSA

cortex drops a shitload of gold

44k in one cortex right now

might depend on what mods you get tho

from clearing not the boss to be clear

[hidden cove]

is kingsmarch shared across all chars of the account? the city lvl etc

[left oxide]

i think yes

hardcore people are rips

imagine dying and having to pay red map wages

seen people complain about it xd

[stiff lantern]

game down ?

[austere whale]

Can double anointed items have the "secret" annoints?

[young summit]

why is the power of mace/ele enchants so much higher than phys/axe?

this sucks

i get what, like 30% inc dmg on top of my 180% and maces get 150% added damage as element? wtf

[left oxide]

added vs more

phys enchants still suck

[young summit]

they are more? i guessed they work like implicit phys%

[astral rapids]

Hey guys, kinda new here trying to decide what starter to pick, I cant decide from power siphon, cyclon of tumult and lacerated of haemor

any tips which one would be smarter to pick up?

of those 3

[sullen rain]

how hard was pathfinder hit with nerfs this league?

[tawdry plover]

Are we affected by anything other than removal of attack/cast speed on flasks?

Phy to ele I guess but that's everyone

[left oxide]

lacerate is treating me well

The weapon phys% is local

think of it like going 1 tier up in your phys mod i guess

[young summit]

thats what i meant though, its not 30% more(which would still be way less than ele builds get) but just 210% instead of 180% increased local weapon dmg 😦

[left oxide]

ye

16% more

is nice-ish

nothing compared to past stuff

but ok

the league mech in general is lame af

rewards-wise

[young summit]

not when you play ele maces :/

^^

i almost feel forced to switch

[left oxide]

maces have been crap forever tbh

they need the power

[woeful halo]

wdym

[worn drift]

Would be nice with a hotkey in Shipping that instead of discarded items sent them to disenchant

[ashen bay]

When upgrade says

25% increased Smelting Speed

Does that mean it is changing the earlier 15% increased speed from earlier into 25% ?

Or does it add 25% increased speed on top of what was already upgraded?

[swift spade]

does minion damage count as spell damage? i mean spell damage i do

like if spell damage is leeched as energy shield. would i gain energy shield if my minions do damage?

[sonic canyon]

Minion damage is not spell damage, and unless it specifically states that damage is leeched as life to you, any leech effects will only recover the relevant resource for the minions, not you.

[ashen bay]

Look at the red text, it will be clearly stated like this if that is the case.
there are a few effects which allows you to get resource back based on minion actions.

[south plume]

any of you know if 100% favour is the max you can get from a port?

[ashen bay]

i'm getting 90% in some ports and i don't have the last upgrade yet.

Ports Quotas are 50% more rewarding

so i would assume that it can go higher than 100% if i understand this correctly.

[heady panther]

It can

[south plume]

need to know how much i need cuz im starting to snort the dust here now lol

[wet harbor]

Is the "middengard" continent with its runic magic a very thiny veiled Midgard parody.

[little sandal]

to summarize this league XD

[remote elk]

my trade macro not open the menu how i fix it

[outer gate]

When it comes to strongboxes, is it better to have flat # drops or % increased quantity?

[royal siren]

What contracts do people buy? I wann do my regex to check if I have any?
So like level and idk what to look for

[swift spade]

this game is so funny

[olive bear]

Question, do the miners still cost a wage even if there isn't any ore to mine?

Do I need to set them to idle manually?

[turbid valve]

they dont take wage, but if u have other ore they will mine that instead

[flat egret]

why do earthshatter builds use General's Cry + autoexert without any skill gems that the minions can use?

[steep dock]

Boat league

[tawdry plover]

To pop the spikes I reckon

[livid birch]

if you put up a sell order for an item for 1c and someone puts up a buy order for an item for 2 c and they get matched up do you spend 2c or 1c

same question for the buyer i guess

or does the extra c just vanish

[flat egret]

i spent some considerable time just now, to come to the conclusion that it do be like that.

[tawdry plover]

I've had leftovers on both ends but not sure whether it generates new C or someone got the worse deal

[livid birch]

oh leftovers

cool

[tawdry plover]

I assume someone just got a worse rate than you

Or their fair rate

[flat egret]

since the generals cry doesnt do anything that cannot be done by other cries, i could just as well swap it for something that has more benefit

[tawdry plover]

It has the lowest cooldown I think

[flat egret]

perhaps this is where i look at shakos in the future 😄

[tawdry plover]

By a fair margin

[flat egret]

gotcha

[dusky citrus]

how many mappers do I need running 1 map? I started with just 1 and they died instantly

[sharp pollen]

i found 4 worked best for lower level maps

probably could do it with less if you had level 7 mappers

[shell forge]

Jesus, who the heck is asking Raulf to spy on us???

Foreshadowing perhaps?

[violet nymph]

Low cd spike popper

[shrewd token]

finally someting nice from ship

[smoky sun]

any sell white map t12+ for 1 chaos each, can buy 20

[stuck steppe]

lucky, all i get is garbage

[left oxide]

price check the tats

they can be worth a bit

[flat egret]

do you know if there is a rythm to it, like popping every time aftrer earthshattering?

[shrewd token]

F

[teal panther]

In addition to other replies here, it's also good with its low cd to generate/keep rage and to remove ailments. Both from warcry masteries

[flat egret]

ay i was occupied with the nonbuff aspect of it.

[hoary oasis]

What resources/bonuses you've had?

[shrewd token]

wheat around 3k cause bonus and dust boost 10k

[worn drift]

if you die on verisium, is the ore forfeit?

[strong quiver]

has anyone figured out how to get lots of gold?

[swift spade]

if i use "at least two green sockets" on a six socketed item will it also change the number of sockets?

[left oxide]

5 chaos

watch out

cream my pants

[coarse bridge]

I’m thinking about fresh starting on a new league already , is that dumb ?

[outer mist]

which jewels are worth corrupting out of the crimson, viridian, cobalt?

[grizzled moon]

ofc its 'dumb' but ive certainly reset ssf progression many times in past leagues

if you have time and youre having fun go for it

[swift spade]

hall of grandmasters still rip i guess? kirac offers one

[sharp pollen]

yolo

[strong quiver]

jsut colors

[swift spade]

i mean i just leveld so...

[sharp pollen]

then you have 6 portals to use

[swift spade]

they will destroy my spectres

whole army gone in 1 frame

[sharp pollen]

just resummon them with something better

take it as an upgrade opportunity

[swift spade]

ok im going in!!!

[sharp pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

[solemn escarp]

Does the currency exchanges in the town we build this season lose you currency in the exchange vs what you could get trading with a player or what? Also is it trading currency with an NPC or is that other currency traded to another player using that NPC?

[swift spade]

gg

[minor heron]

Hey guys, what should I max first

Mines > Town> Farm> Ships?

[eager holly]

Not sure in the first one but the second is trading with other players but using the NPC.

So someone must list the item for sale for whatever you want to spend, typically chaos, and then you can place an order to buy. If no one has it for your price, you create a buy order and if someone lists it for your price you'll get it.

Once you select the item you want to buy, and what currency you want to trade for it, you can hover over part of the UI to see the rates.

[hushed wedge]

i dont understand the sentinels i wasnt there for that league, what are you supposed to do with them?

[dusty cove]

Empower monsters to murder for batter loot

[hushed wedge]

so just hit f2 when u get it and its basically wisps?

[dusty cove]

Sorta deppends on it

[indigo elm]

I Just started mapping with NPC, really waited for it, and I already regret it 🤣 lost 2 mappers

Damn, lvl 5 mappers can't do T1 blue maps???

[sharp pollen]

chuck more bodies at the problem

[indigo elm]

What's the highest tier they can complete, in your experience?

[sharp pollen]

umm, i have them running t5s rn, but i have had them run everything lower

once those are gone i up the tier

but i have seen on reddit running red maps

but i just have 4 portals for now

[olive bear]

Is shipping useless early game?

even sending about 2000ish shipment power with a lot of food, I barely got any currency and just random bad rares

[astral forge]

quick question, if a port needs 3200 Orichalcum, will sending 640 bars fulfill that? that's what it means by counts 5 times, right?

[stuck steppe]

pretty usless unless you beef it up with dust until diminishing value

[cunning yoke]

yes

[stuck steppe]

and you have to allegedly improve the " hidden favor" by completing the shipping orders

[astral forge]

@cunning yokechamp, thanks

[lucid silo]

was there an update on the Bars amount counting for the shipment of ores? cuz it used to give 5 times the amount but now i received way less completion on the port quota than normal tried to see the last few patch notes but didnt find anything on this

[austere whale]

how do I get back my marionettes if I unequiped my summon spectres?

[wind veldt]

How do you get thaumaturgic dust?

[austere whale]

disenchant in town

rog

[wind veldt]

When do I unlock disenchanting

[kindred shoal]

Is there any special upgrade for last level of tavern?

[valid kernel]

Yea when do we unlock disenchantment? When I talk to Rog he only offers for me to sell things to him

[wind veldt]

thats what im saying man

[valid kernel]

Yea I want to know too..bro

[solemn escarp]

What am I meant to do?

The league starter lightning arrow build says mid game to get a bow and even gives a link to appropriate bows with the right stats for the build but the link they give is to bows without 6L and without even 6S.

If I add those in the bows change from 2 chaos for a crit bow into 2 Divine Orbs for a bow with 6L but the wrong colours or 5 Divine Orbs for a bow with 6L and the right colour sockets. 6S is 3 Divine Orbs.

2 Chaos one however only has 4S and 2L and idk if it'd even be possible or viable to make that 6L and the right colours...

For about 25 or 30 Chaos there are some with 6S but 4L and the wrong colours or even one with 5L but no 6th socket and it kinda even has the right coloured sockets except it needs another extra socket and that socket linked to the other 5 lol.

There's no way I can afford multiple divine orbs when they each gost over 150 chaos lol. 900 chaos or w/e for a weapon is just not doable. But idk what I can even do in this case?

[valid kernel]

Disenchanting is a new feature which allows players to gather a fresh resource in PoE - Thaumaturgic Dust. To start changing your items into this currency, you have to acquire level 5 in Recruitment. It will allow you to Disenchant and Recombine items.

I guess we need a lvl 5 town?

[timid root]

What is the fastest way to get to 100 from 88? I am doing mines now

[sage thorn]

Aiming for "Dual-wielding DEX Swords (or DEX Sword + DEX Shield) Warden" Ranger for this League.
Will mostly play it by ear, with occasional wiki checking, but for this one, I'll go forward without a build guide.

[potent zephyr]

my game crashed

[formal root]

*Opens pile of Gold
*No Gold inside

[valid kernel]

Lol

[fallen terrace]

did some math and found out it takes about 1.7 million gold to fully upgrade the town

[left oxide]

finally a div from ship

shame i am at the point where i am running uber juiced maps

so its kinda meh

[cunning yoke]

weird to complain about currency you spend very little effort getting, but I'm here for it

[wind veldt]

Ohh tysm dude

[fallen terrace]

it's "passive" income

[ashen bay]

Has anyone got the upgrade to disenchant unique items?
i wonder if this will be a good sink for trash uniques

[gleaming anvil]

Hey guys what mechanic would you guys recommend to farm as a stormburst totem build? like top 3 mechanics you think work well with

[pastel void]

Do we want to fulfil a order in one load or space em out

Unsure

[neon elk]

Pirate always has to be done solo right? can't get help b/c 1 portal?

[pastel void]

you can

but the helper wont get gold

Is there any strat to get alot of vers I run alot of maps 😦

[karmic sigil]

why is my block capped at 34% here? tornado inquis, it's showing this in pob

[gritty basin]

AFAIK the gold cost won't change, since it's based on total volume. Could be room to work with rounding, maybe, but that'd be so much micro that I don't think it's worth it.

The big thing to consider (imo) is how fast you want your trade to be completed and at what ratio. If you want it done fast, pay a little over market price (so if 1 chaos buys 3 alchs normally, post your trade for 1 chaos to 2 alchs and you'll get it filled instantly). If you want good deals but you're willing to wait, post something a little under market price and then let it sit for a while

& if you need some of a specific thing right away, and you want to stock up for later, then do a fast one and a slower one at different ratios

Or, now that I've typed all that out... you're talking about the shipment not the currency market, aren't you. lmao

For shipping, it doesn't matter - if they're asking for 500 wheat, you can send them 250 and 250 or 500 in one go and you'll get a reward for completing it either way. The main thing would be the risk factor on the shipment itself, and to a lesser degree, the time it takes to actually send the boat

[crimson dove]

is veritisum ore bugged for anyone else?

I marked several hundred for mining yesterday an d I have 0 smithers for veritisum and now I have several hundred bars of veritisium

[cunning yoke]

If you have no resources for one thing, your workers will do another. So if you have 12 miners on Crimson ore and run out, they'll go mine the next thing

Same for smelters

[sterile brook]

Are you in a map with the modifier "Players have 40% less chance to block"?

[karmic sigil]

just hideout, but it went up to 42 / 42 when i put on this annoint?

[sterile brook]

Are you a gladiator? PoB will automatically calculate "Chance to Block Attack or Spell Damage is Lucky if you've Blocked Recently". But you likely haven't blocked recently in your hideout

And I see that your character sheet block chance, 34%, when put into this lucky formula: 1 - ((1-.34)*(1-.34)) = 56.4%, which is what PoB says

[karmic sigil]

https://pobb.in/sDeKoA7cl6CY no, im looking at all my gear wondering where the block is going lol. new character so still familiarizing with everything in my build

[sterile brook]

Ah, your shield has "Chance to block is lucky" which would do the same thing

The character sheet does not calculate Lucky, which rerolls your block chance twice

[karmic sigil]

Oh right
but isn't block cap 75, to 65% with the shield? why is it capped at 42% ingame

[late venture]

Where is hc ruthless channel?

[sterile brook]

I wouldn't say your block chance is capped at 42%, your chance to block just is 42%. Your shield gives you 23%, you have 8% from the annoint, and I assume 11% more on your tree which takes you to 42. The cap is definitely 75 (65% with your shield), but maximum block chance is not displayed in-game.

Also, because of how Lucky works, you can exceed the maximum of 65%/75% effectively, and as measured by PoB. Because you're not exceeding the cap per block roll, you're just rolling twice per hit. That's why 42% block is effectively 66% block, despite that being above your maximum of 65%.

[cunning yoke]

the 3.5 people who play it probably have their own discord somewhere

[sterile brook]

#1┃ruthless exists for chatting, and they do have a Discord pinned here #1┃ruthless message

[late venture]

Ty

[pastel tartan]

need to do anything or just wait

[keen dirge]

Yo, I think I found a bug? I assigned miners to mine and smelt Verisium (best one) but nothing happens? I don't get any Verisium ore nor bars, why?

[distant harness]

You have to find the ore in maps

[outer mist]

is there any good unique maps for gold?

[distant harness]

Poorjoys maybe

[karmic trench]

why am I getting bad outcomes on my shipping like every single time?

[silver rover]

Red bar to high?

[karmic trench]

like half the shipment went missing, crops went bad etc, not just bad loot

[silver rover]

RNG hate u

[karmic trench]

so if im filling out the favored orders I should plan on doing them in multiple shipments so i dont get the red bar too high

this is too much micro for a slammer

[silver rover]

I got taxed 75% by the king the other day… what king who taxed me lol

[karmic trench]

its kind of stupid, already paying a gold tax to keep this shit running now it has to skim off my resources too

[slender fractal]

any good slayer here please ? need help

[ashen bay]

i must have sent 10-15 ships or so, i never got a bad outcome or a random event.
They all came back just fine with loot.

I'm hearing all of these weird shipping stories and i kinda feel like i'm missing out

am i too lucky?

[twin girder]

whats the best currency farm method for LA Deadeye ?

[stiff socket]

heyo, anyone have any good strats to farm gold with alch and go?

[ashen bay]

People have talked about synth map having lots of gold, but those are high tier maps i think.

Someone started a rumor that harbingers gives tons of gold.
I tried to spec into it myself on atlas tree but did'nt give much.
May have been false rumor, or maybe it got patched.

[somber isle]

No one is talking about how blight's notable gives quite a bit of gold, about 50-150 gold per t4 tower scrapped

this

so blight ravaged maps must be... insane

[ashen bay]

nice, didn't know about that.
Although i don't think i tend to reach many T4 towers in most of those encounters.

[somber isle]

yeh

about 4 usually

[ashen bay]

ah ye, if you buy up blight maps. i get it....

[twin girder]

can someone elaborate ?

[somber isle]

I mean that wheel has all the blight passives that let you build more towers so

(more enemies and less cost)

[ashen bay]

not sure if there is a specific one for LA deadeye, i'm playing this myself so would be cool to know if there was one.
Otherwise i would say just run through red maps as higher tier maps gives more gold.
And ofc synth maps if you can get your hands on any.

[mental sphinx]

wtf

[terse pollen]

guys how to farm gold ? 😄

[stiff socket]

Thanks for the response. All the guides PC players releasing require scarabs, on console thats a rip T_T :'(

[silver rover]

Shrines and strong boxes for more mobs maybe a safe bet

[agile pawn]

Some maps like strand give 1 ore type and others give 2 or am I trippin?

[sonic canyon]

I don't believe it's tied to map type, I believe it was said to be random.

[old tulip]

tfw zombies can't even hold up in white maps so I just wasted a few hours grinding out a witch for nothing

jesus

[ashen bay]

You may be missing some passives in your build to keep minions alive, are you a dedicated minion build?

there is a channel for build-help here.

[old tulip]

nah, just gonna go back to splitting steel. ssf zombies makes me want to off myself when you don't get any good abses until way later

[ashen bay]

i believe minion health scales with gem level, is your zombie skill gem leveled up?

[old tulip]

apropriately yeah but there is no way to level it if you are above campaign area xp and maps just kill you

[ashen bay]

ah yeah, i still think this sounds like a slight build issue.
if you are not seeking help ot improve the build and would rather play something else then that's fine ofc.
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with Zombies, atleast not that i'm aware of

[tawdry plover]

It doesn't apply there

[somber isle]

yeah I just found out :<

big sad

btw blight maps give almost 0 fucking gold

[tawdry plover]

Yep

[fading oriole]

Anyone have an alternative to awakened trade? it just gives me an error and doesn't work

[tawdry plover]

Maybe try updating it

[fading oriole]

I literally just downloaded it

it simply won't run at all

and the dev has no support

[tawdry plover]

Hm that one sounds odd. I'd say maybe try again or run as admin but thats your call

[fading oriole]

already tried running as admin

dumb poe overlay has ads

I just want something simple for price checking 😦

[agile pawn]

No league mechanic ores in delve is like the silliest miss ever

[fading oriole]

don't think it would make sense to be in delve

okay I fixed awakened, and probably fixed a bunch of other windows problems at the same time

good ol' regedit

[formal root]

Any build suggestions?

[somber isle]

xd

[agile hemlock]

conversion trap

[swift mesa]

do converted monsters drop loot

[slate kite]

hey guys, any idea why i cant manage kingsmarch from my hideout, i did invite him manually, i did all quests, i talked to every npc and there is still no option to manage the town

[brittle river]

Chimerascale Gauntlets

[uneven prairie]

duper alert duper alert

[leaden hatch]

New player in act 1 looking to get back into POE if anyone wants to party up i'm in #1050813220312600586

[exotic forum]

100% cull is only option

[clear fern]

Hi guys, anyone knows if settlers prog carries over to alts?

[ashen bay]

1152 ore from one node in T16 map.
It scales up pretty fast

was a crimson ore node

[naive notch]

Does the settlement continue working when I’m offline ?

[ashen bay]

yes

make sure you have enough gold for the night

[naive notch]

Damn that’s so cool

[ashen bay]

not sure how far you progressed, but you will get access to a ship later, and it can be sent to a port on a 4 hour long journey.
I try to send that before i go to bed 😛

[naive notch]

Yeah just makes sense . The things u get from shipping are not bad at all have gotten some really cool bases

This league is just so much fun for me

[hoary oasis]

Keep in mind that farmers work as long as there's gold in a bank. Others end their job when there are no more resources to mine/smelt or when their ships return

It's good to save some gold (withdraw) so you can send ship when you login

[chilly cliff]

Can anyone help me finish the twisted fight?

[austere stratus]

hey guys, anyone knows if theres a way to find out how much ransom the pirates want for a ship?

[twin cobalt]

hi, does anyone have a link for Lacerate Bleed Gladitor loot filter? I am too stupid to do one myself. TY

[olive bear]

Has anyone found a good ratio for production per hour / hourly wage / skill level?

[violet nymph]

0 / 0 / 0 until balance patch

[steel parcel]

Do they smelt anything after their main ore is eampty?

[rustic dew]

Is it just me or does it appear like breach doesn't drop gold?

Toxic sewer and blight with 0 juice I get 9k, Dunes with juiced Breach I get 4-5k which takes longer and is harder. Kinda feels bad.

[olive bear]

They're doing a balance patch?

[violet nymph]

I have no idea I would hope so lol

[indigo lotus]

mf frost wall and leave

[indigo lotus]

yep at random until all ores are gone. all workers will work if their designated resource is empty

[sturdy ravine]

if I die in an ore encounter, do i lose the ore? or I can come back

[agile hemlock]

you can come back

[hard dawn]

Storm burst totem is coming online, still very early atlas but I already have tons of ideas to progress to the endgame

[naive notch]

Dang that’s smart

[somber isle]

Welp, I switched from wild strike back to frost blades just to kill atziri just to find out the skill is just way better and easier to clear shit with
Which in turn made the skills feel like they're balanced like crap and made me question why I'm trying to min max things when the better min maxing is to just pick the skills that already come with +1 million meters range and more targets, and trinity isn't even close to the best support gem for wild strike so it's just downsides - except maybe for shock, but eh

kinda sucked the fun out of it tbh

all cuz of atziri and her mirror which btw wild strike can't deal with cuz the shock just jumps to the mirror one xd

[stiff lantern]

how i can put taunting on path of building ?

[exotic forum]

Farmers also cost more in general

"Is enemy taunted" should become available when you have a source of taunt.

[sage quartz]

Im missing something, can someone point me to where in this build Im generating Endurance charges pls ty

https://pobb.in/_q-Ys5kEbmqz

[hazy summit]

Is the website down right now?

[small jungle]

Yeah down on my end also

[viral cargo]

If Miners or whatever are assigned to a job but do not work do they cost Gold the time they are not doing anything ?

[sage quartz]

unassign them or they continue to cost you.

[viral cargo]

I dont like that, that kinda destroy logic to leave them working over night

at least in an efficient way

[sage quartz]

You're the boss, you're the one who has them working with nothing to do, they'll gladly accept

[fading oriole]

That is not true

[sage quartz]

It is.

[fading oriole]

If a worker has no work, you spend no gold

It's 100% not true

[viral cargo]

funny joke aside: It does seem like a waste of Gold if i want to farm crops the 12h iam away but not pay miners for 8h of doing nothing

[sage quartz]

It is true.

[fading oriole]

Stop spreading misinformation

[sage quartz]

You can go verifiably prove it.

[fading oriole]

I did, today

[sage quartz]

Im not argueing with you sorry, would rather block and move on. gl

[fading oriole]

Absolute clown

[viral cargo]

from my pov i cant trust any of you two atm

have to check it myself once i run out of mats

[sage quartz]

Feel free to go test and look at numbers

[somber isle]

This is incorrect

[sage quartz]

kk