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[real tinsel]

can you have 100% uptime with warcries?

[agile hemlock]

yes

[real tinsel]

i might just go cheftain this league wow thanks

[agile hemlock]

remember that you have to manually click warcries now

[real tinsel]

ay wtf

[violet nymph]

anyone know how good lightning strike might be for ubers?

[sour sparrow]

is divine blessing just completly gone?

[real tinsel]

yes

[plush coyote]

no

its still in the March of the Legion boots

[cunning yoke]

Do we have any idea when the new gems will be added to PoB?

[devout osprey]

once the community voulunteers add it

[tawny pasture]

Ggg also need to announce them

[ebon goblet]

Ggg needs to announce a lot of things. I'm sitting here with my thumb in my butt waiting for things to be announced so I know what I'm working with. Main things are enchants and tinctures

[devout osprey]

on the other end of the spectrum they could not tell, and let you discover ingame

[mint vigil]

since it requires gold to trade currencies on the exchange, I assume city builder mechanics will be permanent

[agile hemlock]

I would expect them to decide based on how the league goes

[sonic canyon]

They could easily implement gold drops and the currency exchange without any of the rest of it, or decide that they aren't happy with it and remove it completely.

[spark harness]

you can invite faustus to your hideout, so once that's done you can ignore the city building entirely

[topaz pine]

which ascendancy is best for boneshatter?

[spark harness]

jug

[dusk drum]

you think thats gonna be the case for 3.25?

[spark harness]

Maybe? I don't hear a lot of people talking about it. It go a little bit of a damage boost but a big speed reduction so people aren't very hyped about it compared to all the other new melee options

[dusk drum]

what are the other melee options that are people talking about?

[topaz pine]

i wanted to play a melee skill, most a mapper, for years and i feel like its time to pull the trigger. question is which one lol

[dusk drum]

im the same fam

but i did play boneshatter alot

im looking into it or maybe even something else

we will see

[topaz pine]

we should wait a couple days so people make some builds about them its still early

[frigid kraken]

lacertate bleed gladiator looks fun

[tawny pasture]

There is like 15 option if not more

Sunder , earthquake , frost blade , cleave , dual strike , flicker strike just to name few

[dusk drum]

wow you just made

a giga choices for me

sunder earthquake cleave dualstrike

fok

[tawny pasture]

Im going sunder or frost blade probably

Lot of skill will fit the same build too or almost the same so it will be easier to test skill that fit you more

[tawny pasture]

Only those in the preview

Dont worry buddy it will be in #old-game-news

[plush coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/valerijan-valerian-nomark-nebesa-balderijan-gif-19228824

me playing warden

[ebon goblet]

Nobodies builds matter until enchants and tinctures are released imo

I'm going blade trap of greatswords:D

If hits against an enemy have added damage and I hit them with my greatswords, does the fire damage count as being from that sword?

E.g if I hit with rakiatas will the fire be inverted if the only source of fire is a "add fire damage" debuff on the enemy

[plush coyote]

it should get inverted i think

[wraith saffron]

is there a place regrouping all the mods leaked from the new league ?

from the rune guy

[ebon goblet]

I wish bro

The 3 that are actually impractical that were shown are

Trigger fire spell on hit. 0.25 sec cool down.

Weapon deal no phys but has 100% increased elemental damage.

I forget the last one

[wild arch]

None of the new configs work, it's just the updated tree for now

[signal goblet]

do we know numbers on puncture of shanking

[lucid stone]

bro half these ascendancy changes are just ruthless passives

[digital lagoon]

Can i get a reminder for the release date of the new league?

[high fossil]

!leagues

[drifting thicket]

Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The Settlers league starts:
PC - <t:1722024000:R> on <t:1722024000:F>
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This information was last updated on July 17th The above should show in your local time if you have the right timezone set with your discord account.

[high fossil]

Or watch the big countdown at pathofexile.com

[violet nymph]

5! 4! 3! 2! 1! GOGOGO

[high fossil]

Oh shit i'm not ready

[violet nymph]

Nobody ever is 🙂

[wraith saffron]

found it

https://poedb.tw/tw/Rune

only those that are in the video tho

no info on the 90 others

[spring girder]

Just catching up on the new league, sounds like an expansion to POE to me at this point .... great to see

[undone kestrel]

Please explain? The translation is a bit weird in this one, me and my friend group can't get in a consensus.

[grizzled moon]

shields come with a block value, this would ignore it

dual wielding comes with inherent bonuses that would be doubled

which sure doesnt make sense, maybe its not meant to be one annoint?

[undone kestrel]

Oh, so the first line is a straight up negative for Shield users... Got it!

[odd gate]

no matter your shield's block percent on it, it gets set to 50%

[undone kestrel]

weird choice, but I guess it's worthy for the Lucky node after.

[grizzled moon]

well usually the block chance is lower than 50% id say, i'd have to check some shields

[odd gate]

i think there's only one or two uniques above 50 block

so it's pretty good

[violet nymph]

Some shields give negative block so it's pretty effective for those

[undone kestrel]

Oh, I got it wrong then. It goes to 50%? Ohh right

understood

Kinda

Strong...

[violet nymph]

Dual wield is probably gonna be way stronger with 40% inherent and 20% attack speed since there are enough block nodes to cap it even with versatile, but Surrender is gonna be pretty sought after as well

Depending on how well crushing fist scales with level

[sullen shadow]

Every vid makes this more exciting

Also block cap is like what, 75 soft cap 90 soft cap? 50% is kinda huge regardless for this

[thick torrent]

heard u will be able to sell ur cs weapon skins in poe market.

[magic timber]

have they said if kingsmarch is a shared instance?

[high fossil]

How could it be? There would be different levels of upgrade applied around the town for different people

[magic timber]

wow had phasing of instances a decade ago

its possible

[high fossil]

Well then i suppose it could be shared, i don't believe it's been stated either way. I just don't understand how or why they would want it to be.

[magic timber]

I'm mostly worried about my game crashing as often as it does in rogue harbor with other player's MTX

[pastel void]

Yes more currency info 🙂

Wonder if the gold will be tied to the currency value i.e trading for a div is like 15k vs 10 c which is like 300

price fixing shall be dead on currencies yes !

[odd gate]

im guessing it'll be balanced around market quantity

where chaos is like the base line or something

[pastel void]

So like a fluctuating gold cost ?

[spark harness]

Is a mystery \o/

[pastel void]

I like the attempt atleast lets see if someone is clever enough to ruin it

[high fossil]

I reckon just based on drop rarity is more likely. Divine costs more than chaos, which costs more than alteration.

[spark harness]

The orb to fusing trade they showed was 1c for 5fuse coating 200gold, and 500c to 1000 fuse being 112000

So that scales pretty linearly on the chaos cost

[odd gate]

what's the drop rate of different essences? or other tradeable things?

i see where you're coming from, it just seems a bit weird

but yeah ig relative quantity is also fucked, cause it doesn't account for how much people consume each item

[pastel void]

You just gotta love being able to put something up the n sleep and have it sold /traded

Its gonna be great

Gear wont work but eh cant have it all

[high fossil]

Good point, not sure how it'll come down to the specifics. I just reckon it's more likely that ggg will set a cost based on the factors they can already control, rather than tying it to market fluctuations in some way

[odd gate]

i think it'll be effectively instant for most items for the first month

[pastel void]

Depends on the ratio you put it at id say

But I have a feeling we will keep undercutting eachother

[odd gate]

yeah probably, and im guessing gold is never going to be a prohibitive factor either
i feel like it'll be that if you map enough and aren't a profit crafter, you'll always be able to afford it

[pastel void]

But no price fixing so

Well you need gold for a lot though

You got a gamble shop, recombinators and respec

Prob missing something else besides the ah cost

o right city building and auto mapping

[odd gate]

im excited for gamble shop, hopefully i get luckyish during league start and get a few upgrades

if it's complete ass ill be sad

[spark harness]

Gamba \o/

[pastel void]

Is uniques in the gamba shop 🙂

prob not

Would take away from the other gamba shop in expedition

[magic timber]

why? different currencies, different rescources

Who is the gamba vendor and why is it not Gwennen?

[high fossil]

Faustus will have some Black Market items for gold

Gwennen is for law-abiding gambling only

[upper dragon]

since the exchange fills over time i wonder if they have a round robin system, where they slowly drip feed everyone who's queued up a little at a time so noone can just grab the entire market of a resource at once

[pastel void]

Could be intresting leon

Id assume so ?

Or maybe like one transaction then your others take a few mins to fill

[lime crypt]

first come first serve maybe

[autumn quartz]

You think there will be a Queue to get in?

[upper dragon]

not a queue but in the video they just posted, its another time gated thing where it slowly fills up

[autumn quartz]

Do I just sit in menu and wait for it to drop?

[upper dragon]

like you say i want 100, every x amount of time you get x

as all things in this league, finished with league stuff, back to maps or delve or heist or whatever

[lime crypt]

when something is done in cow girl, it will notify you anyway, be it currency trade or shipping

[pastel void]

cow girl?

[upper dragon]

name of the league

[lime crypt]

kalguur = cow girl

[foggy obsidian]

Does this mean that trading lower value currency like alteration : chaos is more expensive in terms of gold vs say vaal : chaos?

[upper dragon]

i don't think it mentioned what sets the gold price so might be static so kinda

just that its balanced around mid-game

[lime crypt]

might be static, doesn't matter what currency you trade

[foggy obsidian]

This might affect the exchange rate of currencies

[lime crypt]

I suspect it's not per currency unit, but per transaction

meaning you buy 10c or 1000c in 1 transaction same price

[pastel void]

ah

[violet nymph]

Nope it's scaled to amount of units

[pastel void]

yeah no they showed it scaled to unit

[foggy obsidian]

When the quantity is bigger the price of gold will be higher

[violet nymph]

But it will technically not be a big deal in endgame so long as you're not a hideout warrior

[lime crypt]

that sucks, what about people buying 5000 alt orbs?

[pastel void]

Ha rip the crafters mich

The people who wanna be hideout warriors

[violet nymph]

Well from what we saw it was like what 30 alt trade for 1000 gold and a single pack in an early map dropped like roughly ~150 or something idk someone do the math how long thatd take to farm XD

[pastel void]

its prob like 2 maps for one trade

[lime crypt]

so it's safe to assume that while gold cost scales with quantity, it also scales with the type of currency?

[pastel void]

not necessarily I think

[silver kettle]

I wouldn't bother reading anything into gold numbers you've seen, they were not final

[upper dragon]

ok, so from the video's we saw. there is varience (unless if the content reveal one had different gold cost for the exchange)
5 fusings to 1 chaos was 200 in content reveal. 15 alterations to 1 chaos was 575 and 30 was 1050 which equals to about 175 for 5 in the exchange introduction video

for all we know it might cost more gold the more popular it is

[pastel void]

Id like it to scale imo

[lime crypt]

linearly scaled with quantity yeah

[violet nymph]

I personally want a free market DECENTRALIZE THE GOVERNMENT

[pastel void]

wondwer what putting a mirror in will cost 😉

If its free bots run rampant mich

[upper dragon]

back to the trade discords with you

[violet nymph]

Okay yes that's true jk

[gloomy cosmos]

Hey guys haven't played for many leagues, scourge was probably my last league, where would be a good place to catch up on all the league mechanics and changes since then

[lime crypt]

that also means NO REPLY

[upper dragon]

anyway its just currencies, still have to regular trade for equipment

[violet nymph]

TO HELL WITH THESE TAXES!

[lime crypt]

so I believe awakened poe won't show currency price anymore, only item price

[red saffron]

Have they talked about how much gold will be needed for repecs at early levels? I ask as I have a few friends who are very keen on checking out PoE if the cost to respec is reasonable.

[pastel void]

nopers but I imagine it will be reasonable at some point

[lime crypt]

scale with your level
easier than getting your hand on regret orb for sure

[pastel void]

better then regrets anyway but they still exist

[upper dragon]

since the market is priced around mid-game i imagine the respeccing is the same, so as long as they can get to around act 7-8 farming gold for respeccing wouldn't be too hard

[red saffron]

Cheers! I shall pass on the news.

[upper dragon]

though its level based

[lime crypt]

maybe past level 70 will be more expensive than regret, but before that should be dirt cheap

[upper dragon]

higher level more expensive respeccing

we just don't know how much is low level respeccing

[lime crypt]

I hope less than 100g per

[pastel void]

ima guess you can prob have a full respec once every 5 acts

Gold wise

[lime crypt]

the whole purpose of gold respec is to have it easier respec early game, otherwise the system is pointless

[pastel void]

I said full though thats not something that is ever easy

You def will be able to move like 5-6 pts pretty fast

not so sure about 30 though

[upper dragon]

might be mistaking the area but what looked like the den or the cave before the vaal temple dropped about 50-70 from a pack of enemies,

[pastel void]

Well you can look up the base to find the item level

arcane vestment is the newer one

So

its maps

[upper dragon]

they must have had some custom settings then cause no way they only drop like 150 from a pack in maps

[pastel void]

from datamine

They can still change the gold value its not final

Its prob not that low your right

[lime crypt]

imagine getting hyped because the showcase char got 5mil gold, but when you reach t16 maps all you have is 50k gold lol

[upper dragon]

act 1 end with 20 gold

[lime crypt]

I wonder, what are the decent early league endgame content for quick currency kickstart this league? blight? expedition? ulti?

[upper dragon]

mappers eating happy this league. blight i think won't be that great unless if individual blight mobs can drop gold

[sonic stirrup]

Why wouldn't they

[pastel void]

I think blight will give gold yep

[sonic stirrup]

Individual blight mobs drop regular loot

So there's no real reason to not expect them to drop gold as well

[upper dragon]

i mean would be one of the best then cause of how dense the packs can be

[pastel void]

sanctum not dropping gold is expected though

[sonic stirrup]

Gold doesn't really seem like something you need to actively try to farm

[upper dragon]

but blight can still be pretty slow to start idk how fast it is compared to just blasting a regular map

[pastel void]

blight can be towers only dont even need a build but you might wanna be semi tanky

[upper dragon]

i'm horrible at making my own builds so i generally go for an atlass that focuses more on the towers

[lime crypt]

good thing about blight is you only need 2 anointed rings with no gears
but blight this league is about farming blight maps though, no more farming oil coz the +1 oil tier is gone

are maps bulk sellable by currency exchange?

[pastel void]

dont think so ?

[sonic stirrup]

No

They are not currency

And they have variables

Though I think most or all map fragments will be

[lime crypt]

sad af, will still need to sell blight maps thru certain discord

[sonic stirrup]

Well, there's 2 discords you could choose between

#trading

[sly tusk]

Did we get clarification on if gold is character or account bound?

[high fossil]

It's gotta be league-bound, otherwise you'd start levelling your second character and suddenly be unable to trade currency

Or upgrade/run anything in Kingsmarch

[sly tusk]

You upgrade things with league materials, not gold, and you pay the workers from a pool you throw gold into, not from gold on you

[high fossil]

Good point, i forgot about the treasury. Can you take gold back from that?

[sly tusk]

I'm assuming this is bismuth, but I could be wrong though

since, this is the icon they use for gold

[tulip sonnet]

wait so they buffed LA and elemental hit on the spectrum in next league?

I tought they are going to nerf bow lol

[lime crypt]

they do, in the deadeye ascendancy

but anyway, LS is the new LA

[tulip sonnet]

sure , but the nerf in deadeye seems a lot less important

then the dmg buff to the skills I mentioned above

especially elemental hit of the spectrum

[lime crypt]

yeah, but really people still want to play the same build they did for the past 100 leagues? why not try something new and proven

[tulip sonnet]

true , I got bored af of LA

but if its still going to be the best mapper will feel like I miss out

[sly tusk]

the ol' burden of optimal play

[upper dragon]

how rare is iron fortress? i probably won't go it for league start, but i've been considering the static strike shockwave

[tulip sonnet]

indeed

[violet nymph]

It's not super rare, but that's the Str stacker chest yeah?

[upper dragon]

yeah

[violet nymph]

You probably shouldn't expect it Day 1, but Week 1 shouldn't be too unreasonable

[upper dragon]

patch notes has no changes so even stronger cause quality changes means even more armor

[violet nymph]

I mean the armor isn't particularly why you are there

[upper dragon]

i know but its still nice

[violet nymph]

I mean I might be doing some jank with Shaper's Touch Energy Blade, but idk yet

[lime crypt]

str stacker is dead didn't they say

both ziz and fubgun said so when reviewing the patch note

[tranquil beacon]

That is perfect for me

[sly tusk]

well, they're not melee dudes, prolly need to wait for someone like cArn, no?

[ashen summit]

I'm assuming runesmithing is not possible on unique items but has this been confirmed?

[pulsar depot]

Do we have a time for release on Friday? :0

Or is that yet to be confirmed

[pulsar depot]

Thank you, forgot they like to do timers

[neat cloak]

How much of a buff is the quality rework?

[high fossil]

About 20%

[north dragon]

Why did they say str stacking is dead?

[upper dragon]

i think part of it is the change to battlemage's cry. i'm not very familiar with melee builds let alone strength stackers, but i think alot relied on the keystone of turning phys into spell damage then battlemage's to turn it back into phys damage to get around some unique item limitations

[fleet timber]

dude

is that a tribute to shitstain steve

no fucking way

[ripe basalt]

when do log-in queues usually start for league start?

[upper dragon]

i believe about 2 hours before

[high fossil]

The earliest is about 2 hours before the launch, if the patch was deployed quickly

Sometimes closer to 1 hour if they have trouble

[ripe basalt]

aite bet

😎

you can get the update prior to that tho if im correct right

cause they release the patch a day or so before?

[raw garnet]

When does it start?

[high fossil]

There's a torrent with the majority of the files for the standalone launcher available about 24hrs before launch. Steam patching happens about 3 hours before, which is also when you can apply the torrented gppk file

[high fossil]

You can watch the countdown at pathofexile.com

[ripe basalt]

yeah im running standalone so i should be fine

im so excited for league start

[lime crypt]

You guys so impatient, me be like logging in 6h after league start

[primal halo]

who isn't? this league is gonna be nuts i can smell it

thing is i was gonna play sanctum but then they release a banger league mechanic so now i have to delay sanctum even more

i never tried it

[alpine fulcrum]

For https://poedb.tw/th/Rune, was "projectiles return to you" data mined, or was it in the content reveal somewhere?

[primal halo]

pretty sure it was in the reveal

[lime crypt]

Nimis price dropping from 120 div to 120c

[primal halo]

prolly yea

btw are there any pob's going around yet or are they waiting for the gems?

[alpine fulcrum]

i dont see it in the reveal https://youtu.be/QFVLcNTXtxM?t=729

[primal halo]

weird

i didn't read nor watch it on the reveal but i saw tripolar bear's summery of the reveal

[alpine fulcrum]

hmm okay, it might've been hinted at somewhere else

[primal halo]

yea might be that

watch his vid to double check

i might be high

[high fossil]

It was in the reveal

100%

[primal halo]

good im not high

[ashen summit]

thank you, so uniques are officially unusable this league from the looks of it. These enchants are way too strong

[primal halo]

this league is not balanced and i love it XD

everything is broken but fun

[alpine fulcrum]

are you sure i cant find it

[high fossil]

It's visible in the trailer

Near the end

[high fossil]

At 1:38

[alpine fulcrum]

ahk the trailer ty

prayge it works for wands as well

[high fossil]

It's likely to only be craftable onto one weapon type, and i kind of doubt it's something you'd normally cast with

Otherwise they'd just be deleting nimis from the game

[alpine fulcrum]

would it be too op on wands?

bow gameplay zzz

i assumed they would because of wand attack buffs

[high fossil]

We'll just have to wait and see

It's going to be something dumb like 2h maces, i bet

[alpine fulcrum]

isnt that pretty much just molten strike then

anyway prob gonna be pretty rare/hard to get hte runes

it'll be aids if it's giga expensive

[austere whale]

how is blight looking for early currency in 3.25? anyone planning on doing it?

[high fossil]

I'm thinking it looks like a good gold source, so it's on my list

[tranquil beacon]

Blight is good currency in my experience, lots of bubble gum and bases

[topaz pine]

whats the most safe slam build for this league after patch notes?

i want to slam something

[maiden mural]

Leap slam

[limber turret]

Something like Tectonic slam

[topaz pine]

how about boneshatter or earthshatter? some say they are better than ever some say they will be slower thus worse..

what i want is basically like earthshatter; one slam and whole screen is gone, but idk what im talking about so..

[tranquil beacon]

Do you mind pressing multiple buttons?

[topaz pine]

i dont mind generally

less buttons makes me sleepy. but i want instant damage

[tranquil beacon]

Groundslam maybe

[topaz pine]

is that a singlular skill or do i need to pair it up with another one? when i search for it i see earthshatter and earthslam next to its name

i see spikes coming out of the ground. does ground slam causes it or any other skill?

[tranquil beacon]

Groundslam just slams the ground and does damage

Earthshatter slams does damagr and also spikes come out and you have to warcry to explode those spikes which then deals damage.

[topaz pine]

some visual effect would be nice you know

[maiden mural]

Tectonic slam it is then

[topaz pine]

i saw ice crash in some random video. it looked nice

[maiden mural]

[topaz pine]

can you link a video that showcases that skill and that skill only? when i search a skill i see other skills are also in play and since ive never saw what that skill looks like i cant tell

[maiden mural]

I’m at work, no can do

[topaz pine]

so i slam the ground and fire comes out of it?

[fallow mountain]

Just check on youtube🤔

[topaz pine]

i saw couple builds that also uses cyclone so wanted to make sure where that fire coming from. it looks super fun though imight commit if i see someone post a league starter for it

[near socket]

Hey all...im. really hyped for the New league...will be my 3rd.... which class/build are you going to play, now mêlee is changed?

[ebon goblet]

Y they no buff bladetrap of greatswords

[smoky geyser]

oh god i jsut realised, barksking flesh and flame

oh god

[gentle cedar]

what league mechanics will be good to focus on my atlas early on?

[lime crypt]

blight, expe, ulti, up to you

[ashen burrow]

i am going to farm breachstones

[austere whale]

Do we know anything about how the harvest quality enchants will work?

[summer sundial]

Same as before

[left fog]

hey guys what do yall think about party play this league?

[ashen burrow]

the only party play is 5 way hosting

[left fog]

XD

[lime crypt]

it seems like shit mech this league, coz can't focus on doing chayula

[lime crypt]

deader than dead

[ashen burrow]

if im the only supply ill be rich

[lime crypt]

you're just like everyone else, praying your next breach run will be chayula

[agile hemlock]

do keep in mind that grasping mails are going to once again actually be worth vendor recipeing

[hot quail]

They removed shrine leveling tho, people will need more 5way and Stones

So chayula will be doubly expensive

[agile hemlock]

unless the kalguur just ship you 3 quads of graspings if you give them exactly 45251 of juice.

[lime crypt]

chayula will naturally be x2 the price just by being not target farmable

[hot quail]

Does anyone have a list of the new anoint - only notables?

[upper dragon]

haven't gotten even half of them, but PoB has them as disconnected nodes, these are some from the left side

[hot quail]

Last one looks kinda juicy

[upper dragon]

i might have missed some but i believe these are the rest

[prisma epoch]

Any news about gem info?

[high fossil]

Not yet. We should see them within 2 days though, based on past leagues.

[swift zenith]

Blight and simulacrum looks good if you can clear them. Also sanctum was left untouched which means same strong option as previous league. But I am not 100% sure what is going to happen now that we have 1 more map slot

Lets just hope things dont get out of hand like last league, with the strategies and fixes

[potent lily]

auto pickup quality of life man

[swift zenith]

forgot to say, if you opt for blight in the long run, have a nice filter or a beefy computer.

[twin geyser]

has anyone confirmed if gold is auto picked up?

can't believe i'm asking this in poe of all games. lol.

[high fossil]

It was visibly being autocollected in the content reveal

And it fits with recent design decisions, they don't want people to have to click that much or leave their gold behind

[twin geyser]

sweet.

hopefully the currency trade works out well enough it moves over to poe 2 since gold's there as well.

[high fossil]

Pretty sure this is a poe2 component that is being backported

(and/or tested)

[twin geyser]

😮 oh

currency trade better go so well it goes core. ❤️

[past spire]

Good addition , annoying when you wanted to buy 20 chrome or such for a few c and people wouldnt bother responding

[sonic canyon]

Yes, the currency exchange, gold, and respeccing with gold were all PoE2 features that they ported back.

[dark heath]

Please give league, I can’t take it anymore!!!

[maiden mural]

Need more league

https://tenor.com/view/go-on-gollum-my-precious-gif-10877364535161632621

[faint ravine]

*and

Filter is base requirement, and unless you plan to run blight without tower and enough damage to onetap everything screenwide, blight will turn everything into slideshows unless you have a strong machine

[maiden mural]

There isn’t enough strong machines out there to survive blight

[faint ravine]

Though with a bit of experience you can build turrets that hold everything in blightravaged and blighted maps in the first 2 minutes of the map, and then pull up the atlas (to prevent your GPU from melting) and make a sandwhich

[tall hinge]

@silver kettle can we get gold from encounters not in maps like sims, 5ways, blighted maps, heist, etcetc? Or is gold only confined to maps?

[lime crypt]

Sanctum and not getting a single drop of gold aka say good bye to league mech

[swift zenith]

is it confirmed that sanctum will not drop gold?

if yes, yeah sanctum is a lot worse, but still considering how strong it is, you should be able to find a way to manage it

[agile hemlock]

sanctum enemies do drop items, so maybe it will

[swift zenith]

like ggg said, gold should be a lot more trivial later on

[agile hemlock]

but probably too little.

[faint ravine]

Sanctum has basically no enemies and even then you avoid killing as much as you can basically. Even if sanctum enemies drop 100 times more gold than map mobs, you'd get way less gold in sanctum than mapping

[tired phoenix]

Are orbs of regret still a thing since you can respec with gold?

[buoyant bough]

Yes, orbs of regret still exist

[real tinsel]

are we still able to get high amount of defense this league?

[swift zenith]

when you say defenses you mean armor, eva, and es? or all defensive layers?

[agile hemlock]

you have to kill guards in some rooms, to be fair. but yea, not looking good, it'll just be 8 mod ghosted exiles or something similar

[real tinsel]

layers of defenses

[swift zenith]

yes, you can still get good numbers on armour and eva even after the nerf on grace and determination, es also easier, we lost 100% damage taken as, but it is still possible to get a good amount of it.

That said, block is easier too specially on glad and sion, max res also got a easier to get. And endurance charges looks to be the best layer this league.

outside of that there are specific things, like reductions here and there.

[real tinsel]

is endurance charges more likely mandatory?

[swift zenith]

pretty much, but I think it is possible to manage without them even tho it is not the best idea

like they are very strong right now

[ember lodge]

To my knowledge, Endurance charges also apply to degens which drastically increases their value.

[real tinsel]

how good is block?

those cap at 75% so 25% will still hit you, isnt that a bit too lethal?

[swift zenith]

except for chaos they are reducing anything, pretty crazy

[real tinsel]

i dont know

[swift zenith]

lucky block is amazing, block is very unreliable alone

[real tinsel]

what is lucky block?

[swift zenith]

so glad got the upper hand on the block thing, still you can manage without it as another defensive layer

[swift zenith]

rolls 2 times

[real tinsel]

saw a video on gladiator ascendancy with lucky block, i hear its easier to get it

[swift zenith]

you get the ascendancy node now and yeah, that is it

[dusk drum]

Im planning to play sunder/earthquake/frostblade
What should i plan to take as a starter leveling build any suggestions?

[tawny pasture]

Can be slayer trickster or champ

[real tinsel]

i kinda wanna try bleed, i never played melee build before idk if splitting steel is melee but since they buff it might as well try it

[spare egret]

Has there been anything said if there's going to be unique tinctures?

[swift zenith]

no, we are a bit in the dark on tinctures

[spare egret]

That is a dang shame since my go-to build got a bit gutted with removal of raider

[swift zenith]

what? roa?

[spare egret]

cold flicker

well the hatred nerf hurt aswell

[swift zenith]

yeah, cold flicker dead, not only because raider got removed

if you still want to flicker you should look for slayer, the only viable option right now

deadeye frenzy node is crazy bad

[spare egret]

Impale zerker might work aswell tbh

[swift zenith]

zerker feels kinda bad right now, and slayer is enjoying the endurance charge meta

[spare egret]

fair

[tawny pasture]

Flicker got a huge buff tho

[spare egret]

might also just change out my playstyle and go for some gigatank build

will have to see

[swift zenith]

jugg seems a good option for it, you can be invincible, but I wonder about dmg

[thorny pond]

I bet is… slayer/warden/jugg/glad most played ascendancy

[swift zenith]

glad and warden for sure, at least in the beginning of the league

[spare egret]

Tinctures seem interesting for sure

was there any poison tinctures revealed yet?

havent really scoured thru the patchnotes myself

[upper dragon]

how well would this work with flickr strike or too far away for normal builds?

[tawny pasture]

Poison was on reveal

[lucid stone]

So taunt mastery was added for totems, but it requires totem to be stunned first, which is not likely to happen when you are stacking totem life for flamewood, and the totem needs to be stunned first before enemies focus it. Aaaaaagh

[swift zenith]

I think we saw it in the trailer/reveal

[tawny pasture]

Nothing like it was during its league

[tender geyser]

IMO a lot of people gonna leaguestart melee and then realise that even with all of those buffs they are in fact still playing melee and need to constantly keep up with the weapon progression and selfcraft 95% of their gear and they gonna reroll into the flavour of the month mine/spell build anyway

[swift zenith]

no poison with all anymore

[tawny pasture]

Nothing wrong with that ? Always been how melee work

[swift zenith]

that is what makes warden a safe pick tho, the options are easier to deal considering ailments

[tender geyser]

oh yeah I just mean there's gonna be a rather big group of people baited by the numbers that never knew how melee works

[swift zenith]

the melee experience

same goes for bleed, even tho it is a lot better

[tawny pasture]

It was to smash weapon on ground and kill monster

[thorny pond]

Is crafting a level weapon if hard? Look for flat damage lol

[tender geyser]

I'm really itching towards wardening with some kind of ele melee skill like MS or FB but it kinda smells like bait too

[spare egret]

welp atleast alot of chaos to be made crafting weapons early league lol

[swift zenith]

it looks safe considering scorch and freeze, shock seems more tricky tho. Freeze also got buffed against bosses which helps with the lack of defenses on the ascendancy

[thorny pond]

Molten strike on warden looks really good

[tawny pasture]

Vendore recipe

[thorny pond]

Shock you need to hit a bunch I think

[swift zenith]

also the ult, is a helpful addition considering how good the ailments are

[swift zenith]

50 times in a frame of 2-2.5s, you can also consider the passive which resets ailments when enemy is cursed

[tender geyser]

that's what I'm thinking, freeze should make it all worth it so fuck it, with FB it should also good enough clear, I just weep there is no attack speed node on there, maybe there's gonna be a special tincture or something wink wink

[spare egret]

cant wait to see the new uniques

[lucid stone]

Do any mana burn passives apply to bloodsoaked blade/weeping wounds, or no because it is a different debuff?

[lucid stone]

The Warlock curse stuff got added back as rings

[spare egret]

the what now

[lucid stone]

There's one for Affliction, one for Pacify, and one for Penance Mark.

[swift zenith]

you mentioned warlock curse seems there is a way to actually guarantee you the lucky block thing with one of the curses, and than you proceed to face tank

[lucid stone]

I am unsure if Affliction's damage -> life regen is affected by damage reduction on the minion

[wraith saffron]

am i wrong or there is no melee retaliation skill usable if you block when you DON'T wield a shield or dualwielding ?
--> ie : staff/warstaff

[rugged falcon]

we don't know, but crushing fist may be

[thorny pond]

I think retaliation skills might be bait

[wraith saffron]

any ETA on the new skill info release ?

[lime crypt]

because you need to block to retaliate?

actually there is a passive node allowing you to use retal skill after you get hit 5 times

[tawny pasture]

Probably in 2 days

[wraith saffron]

bro have you ever used a staff ?

[wraith saffron]

thx

[lime crypt]

no, why should I?

[wraith saffron]

because you can block while using a staff maybe ?

in fact you can block with any weapon if you get block chance in a way or another

[cunning yoke]

Then why are you assuming you can't use retaliation skills in that manner lol

[wraith saffron]

because it is said in their description

[cunning yoke]

Is it? I haven't seen the gems, didn't think they were released yet.

It's probably done that way because they're balanced around being 1h skills, and if they're used with a 2h weapon they're probably too strong.

[wraith saffron]

guess we'll see soon enough

[lime flax]

Sup

[stark sandal]

As someone who doesn't quiteunderstand the mechanics of all the technical changes that happened, is there a good post balance minion build that I could leauge start? I usually play bow builds and kind of want to switch it up and try out the new blight stuff with a minion build. Mostly just looking for recommendations worth doing research on. Preferably not BAMA.

[dark heath]

What’s the new blight stuff?

[grizzled moon]

mostly new rewards from blight

and endgame blight maps

[lime crypt]

minion in bad position, witch is dead this league

[dark heath]

Cool, it was kinda annoying looting all the chests after a blight map

[grizzled moon]

thats still there afaik

[twin bramble]

is trickster hexblast miner a good build for a single character during the league? something that that makes a good league starter and can later be converted into a stronger build.
What else would you recommend for a single character during league?

[grizzled moon]

i'd wait for any updates to builds but hexblast should be strong

[ember lodge]

hexblast mines occultist still looks pretty solid for sanctum rushing

[dark heath]

Whoops, I was reading the scarab turning all chests into one? .File:Blight Scarab of the Blightheart inventory icon.png
Blight Scarab of the Blightheart
. It no longer provides "Blight Oils found in Area are 1 tier higher". Instead, it now causes Blight Encounters in an Area to have one Blighted Chest, Blight Encounters in an Area spawn more waves of Enemies, Blighted Chest in Area grow larger and more rewarding the more Blighted Enemies are slain".

[ember lodge]

I'd adore for there to be a node that simply opened all Blight chests without needing so many clicks 😛

[grizzled moon]

theres the spell mastery to open chests that works(?)

[grizzled moon]

though understandably thats only an option for some builds

[lime crypt]

good thing about this change is that you don't care that much about doing blight in toxic sewer anymore, but it's still the best map for it I guess

[dark heath]

True!

[cunning yoke]

It also guarantees oils/maps, doesn't it? Since Blight has to spawn at least one chest that has them

[ember lodge]

fair point 🙂

[unique bough]

do we know how the new trading system decides whose orders to fulfill first? ie if 3 people put up buy orders for a currency at the same conversion rate whose buy order is fulfilled first?

[native sonnet]

unconfirmed but probably whoever list first

[unique bough]

fair enough, wonder how much undercutting will become an issue in that case

[native sonnet]

u lose the gold if u cancel listing so i dont see ppl relisting to undercut
natural undercuts is just part of the economy and is healthy in driving competition/fair price so shouldnt be a problem

if anything the biggest concern is probably a cabal/group cornering an illiquid market, but even that should solve itself with community information and ppl rushing to fill the gap
we'll have to see though

and ig worst cse scenario there should still be litings of things on the regular trade site

[unique bough]

true fair enough, i was probably overthinking it

[native sonnet]

ig another concern is price check macros/poeninja price, is that gonna be based on trade site or exchange

like bad actors can list alterations for divines en masse on trade site to pump the price check and ppl start listing in exchange base on their macro price checks

[unique bough]

you'd have to imagine checking through poe ninja would die off with this implemented right

[native sonnet]

if this is fully implemented/long enough for ppl to feel safe with the ratio on exchange without double checking yea, but i imagine most users would/should check before listings just in case any weird abuse cases do happen

we'll probably still see posts on reddit of ppl selling 100div for 1c or something

[umbral hemlock]

It would help if currency prices could be shown through the game directly while in map, as in price of divine to the most popular currency exchange, though i don't see this being a problem except with new players and people with bad loot filters

[ripe ruin]

Does anyone knows if you need a premium stash tab to trade currencies on the exchange?

[tawny pasture]

you dont

[stark sandal]

New atlas passive making blighted and ravaged maps more frequently dropped some other atlas changes that may or may not be good for blight. Added double anointed amulet drops from blight ravaged and a new highest tier blight oil with new annoints that use it

[celest onyx]

bois, will the boat and the mapping from the league mechanic continue working while we're offline?

[tawny pasture]

yeah

its real time

[umbral hemlock]

everything this league is real time

or almost

[celest onyx]

I missed the part where GGG said that, so that's why I'm asking, damn, I was about to skip poe entirely until poe 2

[umbral hemlock]

same, so :))

[stark sandal]

Are there any atlas passives for settlers this leauge like they had last leauge

[grizzled moon]

no

[stark sandal]

That's kind of lame they stated last leauge they wanted to continue that going gotward

[sonic canyon]

No, they said it was an experiment.

And they weren't happy with how it turned out, so they've decided against doing it again.

[native sonnet]

the feedback on that is really negative, they say they might try again in the future with (keystones?) ways that modify how u interact with the league mechanic, but not mandatory notables/buffs like we had with necrop

[ebon goblet]

Last league there was a cortex corpse that is coming back this league that I loved. Problem is that it crashed my game and the game of whoever was with me regularly. Is there a good way to see if they have fixed this?

They did not fix it during affliction league.

Note: it crashed random people I partied with in discord

[scarlet star]

in patch notes GGG noted: "Non-Gem items that generate with a Random Quality can now generate up to 30% Quality." any idea what these items are?

[ebon goblet]

Superior equipment comes with quality. I think that is what they are talking about

E.g some equipment can spawn with over 20 quality as long as that quality was on it from when it was generated by the loot table

So watch out for over 20 quality bases so you can trade em to crafters 🙂

[scarlet star]

I see, the initial wording led me to think a currency can get to 30, but they changed perfect fossils and limited tainted currencies to 20%

[ebon goblet]

Yeah they are trying to make ground items more relevant

[ebon goblet]

Does anyone have advice for how to find this out?

[tawny pasture]

cortex corpse ?

[dark heath]

Thanks!

I can’t wait to hear that loot drop 🤤

[ebon goblet]

Half remembered goliath

It is the cortex boss but as a spectre 😄

[native shoal]

do we know if there will be more trans gems?

[native sonnet]

just puncture afaik

[waxen garnet]

Are the new anoints still unknown?

[native sonnet]

its in pob

[inland dagger]

So I have heard a lot about melee rework this league, I havent read patch notes or anything like that because im kinda dumb, I've usually played melee builds in the past but the worst part about them was having totems or random upkeep stuff that ranged builds usually dont have. Is this something that was changed?

[native sonnet]

yes

[inland dagger]

Awesome

[ebon goblet]

Are there any anointments that work on minions being added?

[sonic canyon]

Ancestral Totems have literally been removed, and melee base damage has been increased significantly to make up for that.

[ebon goblet]

Wish they would just release a complete list

[karmic iron]

Guys, do we have any info on, if gold also drops from stuff like blight and simulacrums? Heist? Since they said gold counts as regular drop, I hope that it drops in the mechs

[dark heath]

Also is gold pickup run over? Hopefully I don’t have to click on each gold drop. I’m getting old

[sonic canyon]

It's auto pickup, yes.

And regarding what drops it:

[agile cedar]

Is there ever a world/league where league content is worth doing during acts? I want to rush through acts, but also dont want to potentially lose out on getting things start/some of the new content added

[native sonnet]

yeah there were leagues where u can spam tidal for tabula/lvling uniques early in act

or getting a nice lvling rare weapons, but if u r playing something strong that dont need these power then rushing to maps probably still better

[agile cedar]

Im probably playing RF because im a Pohx enjoyer, but am still waiting to see what other people cook up

[mint nexus]

Any idea what the icon to the left of bow is on here?

[shy steppe]

staff

[sonic canyon]

These are the same icons that are used in the crafting bench in your hideout, so you could also just check that.

[shy steppe]

oh which bow?

the one at the top or the one of the highlight

[mint nexus]

the one at the top

and its not the same as the crafting bench in hideout

[shy steppe]

Top should be a Staff

as that is the missing weapon type

[mint nexus]

ah yep im an idiot

[sonic canyon]

I was looking at the highlight, where the Wand icon matched the crafting bench one.

They do match the unique stash tab, though.

[shy steppe]

I'm hoping they are multi-meaning icons for dagger/2-handed axe/wand/bow icons

hopefully they still means one-handed melee/2 handed melee/ 1-hand range/ 2-hand range

Q&A said the cheaper ones apply to all weapons

[sonic canyon]

Is there another 1 handed ranged weapon other than the wand?

[shy steppe]

and those look like the cheap ones

rune daggers

well they have melee basic attack animation

but that is the name of those icons on the crafting bench

[karmic iron]

Nice nice ty

[bright zenith]

Has any seen any mention of how party play is gonna be handled for settlers?

[thorny pond]

Probably same way as always

Terribly

[tawny pasture]

to each their town

[bright zenith]

Yea I'm mostly wondering how minerals will be divided up when you're party playing, I do duo and it kinda sucks when it doesn't give anything to the 2nd guy

[native sonnet]

hmmm, hopefully its like beast where players nearby when u find it gets a copy of it (which u then process/mine from ur own town)

cuz otherwise i could see abuse case where ppl bring in 6man party when they find the rare verisium or something

[cobalt kernel]

This is probably too late to be asking these questions, but are there any tutorials for the new league mechanics? Also, since I find playing with a mouse and keyboard difficult, I play mostly with a controller. Is there any way to prevent gems from leveling automatically?

[native sonnet]

no real "tutorials" other than going in day 1 and experiencing it ourselves

[bright zenith]

New league mechanics is very rough, the reveal video pretty much says what we know

[native sonnet]

at least not from ggg, youtubers will make vids

[bright zenith]

yea 12 hours in content creators will have some videos up

[cobalt kernel]

Thank you. I'll keep an eye out for them.

[real tinsel]

what is a quin build

[tawny pasture]

zero dps build

[real tinsel]

oh wtf, no wonder they keep talking about quin build with the new glad node

[tawny pasture]

but this league quin will actually have dps

[fluid warren]

Well ST work with the new tinctures. I know the projectiles are ranged. But the weapon is melee? will i need the wardens ranged thing?

[tawny pasture]

ST ?

spectral throw ?

it will work yeah

[fluid warren]

yeah

im doing warden ST lol andwondering if the need the tincutes work on ranged weapons since ST uses melee weapons

[odd gate]

he somehow manages to make the most overpowered skills look unplayable in pob

[thick dagger]

Hype-train

[real tinsel]

what skill

[thorny pond]

Man. Trying to figure out what skill I wanna use with Gladiator is hard

[real tinsel]

is boneshatter nerfed hard this league?

[blissful onyx]

no

[real tinsel]

wait whats the difference for berserker or jugg for the boneshatter build

[plush coyote]

jugg can stack strength with the pillar of the caged bonk

[lyric ice]

What league starters are we doing?

[keen elbow]

im doing pconc slayer

then getting pconc of bouncing

[lime crypt]

Darn elon, is poe playable on tesla screen?

[keen elbow]

yea, hdmi slot

adapter

[real tinsel]

we dont know lmfao, so many changes so many options

[keen elbow]

https://pobb.in/F26g2pfriSnI

really easy to level with pconc and since ur slayer you can go other builds later on in league

like LS or RV

[real tinsel]

does chieftain have other builds besides RF ?

[tawny pasture]

oro flicker strike should be more than decent

[near beacon]

Will sanctum have gold?

[high fossil]

Not yet confirmed, but if it does it is unlikely to have much gold, due to the low numbers of enemies

[lime crypt]

sanctum main exiled from this league

[pastel void]

yoke is gonna be hella pricy this league isnt it

[maiden stirrup]

I'm going to try an LS Warden

[spice gulch]

Oil Extractor's were removed 😦 missed that

[twilit venture]

there's no numbers for retaliate skills right?

[silver kettle]

not yet, they'll be posted before launch

[twilit venture]

oh cool ty

[high fossil]

I thought that said "lunch" and got very excited

[silver kettle]

well it's nearly 2pm here so that would be a slightly questionable lunch hour if so

[wary compass]

Is everybody's town going to look exactly the same? Will there be any design choices or cosmetics or anything to differentiate them?

[stoic tinsel]

how long is settlers league going to last for?

[chrome crypt]

Wonder if this is intended for Warbanners next patch or if it's POB that's wrong.

[high fossil]

About 13 weeks, until we're told otherwise

[sweet canyon]

i would say 4 month but let's say 13 weeks atm as say Brohark

[high fossil]

I know right. It'll probably be extended or adjusted, especially if there's a poe2 early access launch to dodge, but we've gotta go with what the "official" information is as a starting point.

[lyric ice]

Thinking bow glad or dual wield glad with bleed

but, unsure atm

[sonic stirrup]

dual wield bleed never sounds like a good idea

[thorny pond]

Dual Strike of Ambidexerity or Ice Crash of Cadence maybe?

[pastel void]

@chrome crypt how you getting that

you cant place multiple banners at max valor I think

whats happening there is I think its counting all placed at max valor setting

[lime crypt]

have number on poedb, really huge numbers tbh

[grim basalt]

For the enchants they stated that unique mods could be craftd on weapons?

[bright zenith]

as they showed it, there was atleast some of the enchants that was based off of mods from unique items

Now if they would tell us how party play is gonna be handled for the league, that would absolutely make my day 🙂

[lime crypt]

how? it's gonna be fucked hard of course

[bright zenith]

very good point, still I hope they come out with some information soon

[waxen ridge]

very excited to play melee this league, sweep looks really fun

[whole marsh]

I'm not sure about the bandit leader change? Specifically, the golden fist giving a passive point. Are you still ahead of people who chose a bandit leader to keep alive for passive points? It still seems like a better deal to get the extra passive point.

[tawdry plover]

Now you can kill all for 1 instead of 2 points, but get that 1 missing point from the side quest

So you'd have 1 extra yea

[whole marsh]

Okay, gotcha. That makes more sense. Though I'm still wondering if the change really makes the bandit leaders worth it?

[tawdry plover]

I think their bonuses are more in line with 1 passive now

[feral socket]

have they confirmed if % life recovered on hit is still in the game?

[hasty perch]

Thinking that 4 watchstones isnt as important early this league compared to pure speed mapping. The earlier you get enough gold to slap 3 map devices and autorunners the earlier you sta k free loot

Might just not go for glad due to that and go a zoomy build with low defenses

[sonic stirrup]

Movement speed is always a stat that's hard to get, so 8% that you can just grab for a passive will be tempting for some
Pretty much everyone who played life builds would grab the old +50 life mastery, which has now been nerfed to just 30, so I would expect +40 for 1 passive to be fairly popular
15% ele res isn't amazing, but it also isn't really something you can otherwise grab for 1 passive, and if you are short some res it might just be worth it for you. Probably not gonna be that popular though

[hasty perch]

I am definitely getting 8%ms on most builds

Stat is goated

[ebon goblet]

Here's to hoping they add link skill stuff this league somewhere

[pastel void]

res early campaign is a life saver

[hasty perch]

ngl i think i'll miss old alira losing 5 flat mana regen when they increased mana costs sounds rough

[spark harness]

Clarity didn't take up that much room

[hasty perch]

yeah but clarity is int gem

big dumb 30 int attack builds

[digital kelp]

any build for sanctum farmer?

[tawny pasture]

same as before

[hasty perch]

just turbo dps totems or brands

i loved using brands for sanctum once i got a lot of brand attachment range from clusters

when brands start jumping from half a screen its game

[digital kelp]

which one is betteR? im assuming inquisitor better?

[hasty perch]

depends on your investment i liked using my charge stacking trickster with some agressive gear and gem swap

like mings hearts and dropping defensive auras for offensive

[digital kelp]

as a league start just never dont sanctum farming early game so i want to try

[hasty perch]

idk if trans stormbrand or penance is best rn with the nerfs

but globally you just want good range auto target and huge damage you can get from removing defenses

[austere whale]

Pen brand is quite s bit better

[hasty perch]

aight , didnt play brands last league i did sanctum a lot in wildwood league

so i didnt know if the nuke on penance made it weaker or not

[pastel void]

how do people generally level trickster fb?

Cause you cant really go two handed

[digital kelp]

normal pen brand?

[austere whale]

No, dissipation

[cinder garden]

So have you decide what build you gonna play for league starter ?

[hasty perch]

still lacking gem data

[astral badger]

How many days before patch release do we traditionally get 20/20 gem data?

[twilit venture]

day before but some times sooner, with more recently releases leaning sooner

[hasty perch]

wednesday evening usually i think

sometimes thursday

[maiden mural]

Righteous fire terrorist

[topaz pine]

does the ground slam damage really fall off if we are far from the boss?

[tawdry plover]

Deals up to (40-49)% more Damage with Hits to closer targets

[versed storm]

Any cyclone build you can start with now ?

[slow isle]

Archmage moving in to frost nova of ice bolts.

[swift zenith]

cyclone may not be the best to league start, but just like some builds you can manage your way if you can cover for the early lacks

[lost quartz]

cyclone shockwave slayer probably still good

[versed storm]

Tbh I don't wanna swap builds, I like to play the same build from beginning to mapping.
Which are the new hot melee builds for something like this?

[cinder garden]

Arent all build always have swap period?

[worn drift]

Anyone know if there will be a separate settlement and gold for each character?

[versed storm]

I mean there are swap periods early while which is fine I guess

[cinder garden]

Then try to look for SSF related build, It have less swap ,maybe? But settlers have 6 map slot, half - efford build can't make it to t17 , IMO

[versed storm]

I mean boneshatter also doesn't swap skills after campaign

[remote grove]

Hello guys , im kinda new to this game with those builds and i wanted to ask ya'll if someone can help me with a flicker strike or ice crash build on POB for 3.25 , if you guys deviced anything of sort i would be very grateful for your help

[prime tree]

no direct info on it afaik, but it's probably pretty safe to assume it's gonna be shared across characters in the same league.

[strange mango]

When are the league rewards gonna be released?

[noble holly]

Will slayer boneshatter still be doable for settlers?

[proven stag]

do we know if map runners follow your atlas tree
like if you heavily invest into heist can they pick up a lot of contracts and blueprints

[odd gate]

in raq they said they aren't affected by atlas

[proven stag]

can they run blighted maps?

[swift zenith]

boneshatter is not bad, but feels like a bad choice, no more totems and it was also not buffed enough to compare to some of the other melee options we have now

[noble holly]

Darn, was my goto for the last 5 Leagues aaa

[swift zenith]

your chance to enjoy other melee builds

[noble holly]

Ill have some copium and try slayer bs anyways, just to see how it feels

[swift zenith]

but like I said, it is not bad, you can still go to it if you really want

the gem was buffed, and melee is stronger because of the new quality and passive tree. At worst you can transition to something similar that may be doing better

[noble holly]

For me aslong as I can do pre uber stuff ill be glad, tho only one way to find out

[wary yacht]

GGG have shown in teasers and in the official reveal that various bases like belts or boots can now roll higher flat HP, but the only one I've found in the patch notes are body armours, do we know what's real?

[noble holly]

Also thanks for giving your opinion, helped with abit of deciding

[winged wedge]

I think I can be happy with a bleed glad build. Explosions will make clear much less of an issue, easy block you can coast on for a good while

War of Attrition to help with single target. That was always bleed glad's bigger problem

[south breach]

I wonder will the amount of gold earned allow for complete respecs or more of a dozen of skill points?

[prime tree]

it might be more of an early game thing. they showed the respec at an unknown character level, but it cost like 6kish gold per node and a 10 boss maven invitation dropped like 15k gold.

[swift zenith]

early for sure no, but we can either expect it to be very easy or to be a combined effort of using orbs and gold to respec

saying early I mean, you are at around 80-90 and wants to respec your entire tree

small amounts are probably fine

the longer you play we can expect it to be plentiful, at least I hope so

[south breach]

Yeah I kinda got the hint it's meant to be small amounts + using the orbs. I'm a casual player so I like the idea of being able to change up a build if I get a item drop or something. Not a full respect but like adjusting things without having to farm.

[swift zenith]

we still have the multiple pages, so unless you want to change your ascendancy (eg glad to slayer) you are probably fine

and it was feasible to do a full respect even with only the orbs, so consider it like a way to make things cheaper

[south breach]

Yeah I'm not a seasoned veteran at this like many people 😆

[lime crypt]

I expect gold respec to be cheaper and easier than regret orb before 70, then gold is better spent on something else

[hasty perch]

I will check early. If its cheap km definitely taking both the axe onslaught wheel and thr onslaught effect wheel for leveling

30% boosted onslaught on kill is pretty cracked for leveling

[sonic stirrup]

Boneshatter will genuinely be about the same as last league, but slightly less top dps against a boss, but slightly better clear.

Running it is not copium

You might also be able to find some use for autoexertion as well

It has just lost its undisputed spot as the #1 melee build

[wicked wing]

Wat warcries do u auto n manual for slams

[thorny pond]

Whichever ones you don’t want the buffs for

[noble holly]

Thanks for the extra wisdom!

[warm rune]

what does this change actually do? does it make mobs with stacked essences faster to die in general? or other way around?

Essences now grant increased Toughness instead of Life to the Monster they are affecting, and grant a small amount of increase Item Rarity and Item Quantity to the Monster for each Essence affecting them. The higher toughness a monster has, the less damage it takes. A monster with 100% increased Toughness takes 50% less damage, a monster with 200% increased toughness takes 67% less damage, and so on. Reduced toughness causes monsters to take more damage.

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

[sonic stirrup]

We dunno, because that doesn't include any numbers except how the stat functions in general

[warm rune]

ok, makes sense; ty

[sonic stirrup]

It functions like Reservation Efficiency

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

What it does do is make it harder to leech from essence monsters if you were only barely getting enough damage to leech

But that probably won't affect anyone that isn't running DoT

[lime crypt]

I never understand people playing the exact same build league after league, we repeat the same thing with our irl 9-5 job already, why keep going with repetition even in a game?

[violet nymph]

what do you think about RF being unkilleable league starter new league?

Pohx goat

[thorny pond]

Do what you enjoy?

[lime crypt]

enjoy doing the exact same thing every league? good for them, can endure both irl and gaming repetition

[south breach]

I mean.. everyone's different. Because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. Nothing to really understand there lol

[warm rune]

well, you can consider any hobby also a repetition.. or partying etc 😄
whatever floats your boat, who cares what others think

[violet nymph]

there is nothing in my boat

only suffer

[dense geyser]

Hey guys, I cannot decide what build to play.

I wanna focus on: Mapping & Blight. Don't care about Ubers.

I don't like piano builds, a 1 button build is what i'm looking for.

I just wanna chill zoom and blast maps while being a bit tanky.

I'm considering:

1. Bleed Glad
2. LS Slayer

I've read LS's playstyle might not be for everyone. Something about it not having good coverage, and also pebbles/object on map stopping its projectiles.

Bleed Glad seems alright, but same similar concerns with Lacerates AoE & coverage.

Is there another skill for bleed Glad that good for mapping/Blight?

[violet nymph]

join me in the dark side of RF

[dense geyser]

I love RF, played it once a few leagues ago. But wasn't it nerfed like 2-3 times in the past 2 years?

[lime crypt]

LS warden
honestly I don't even know why people even have any slightest consideration about LS slayer, are you playing HC?

[dense geyser]

No, SC.

[violet nymph]

i don't know, as far as i can tell Pohx the goat of RF told us that RF was buffed this league until very end game where it is a weaker version

[dense geyser]

But I like to be tanky anyways, I suck at the game and never got to lvl 96 no matter how tanky the build 😶‍🌫️

[frigid osprey]

I got my rf up to a 3 mirror investment last league was face tanking all ubers minus maven memory game. But honestly the kill time is still too slow

Double elevated rf helm with mirror sceptre, double corrupted dawnbreaker and mb

[violet nymph]

and way before your 3 mirror invest, like around 200div was it good?

[frigid osprey]

It was ok

[lime crypt]

lacerate (bleed) glad and LS warden both are solid option for league start, and LS warden has infinitely better clear than LS slayer, so up to you if you want to go slow and not dying, or go extremely fast and surprisingly, also not dying

[frigid osprey]

Rf is def a comfy build

[violet nymph]

ok for which stage of the game

[frigid osprey]

Not a build if u wanna kill shit quick

[violet nymph]

i'm a bit affraid of the lack of damage

on bosses

[frigid osprey]

Its blasts all red maps at 200div, 200 div might be hard for current t17s

[violet nymph]

maybe i should just ignore bosses

[frigid osprey]

I could only boss after 1.5+ mirrors comfortably

[lime crypt]

most can handle t17 next league, except if you juice full deli 10k wisp

[frigid osprey]

Still have to dodge sirius blasts and meteors tho

[violet nymph]

i've never got so much currency, my max invest was like 200div so talking about mirror is impossible for me

[frigid osprey]

200div, u can face tank 100% deli afk its kinda funny tho

[violet nymph]

how did you farmed those

[frigid osprey]

I was speed farming t17s + 100% deli maps

• i also craft a bit

[violet nymph]

i never craft in poe

does it requieres to farm harvest and shit?

essence monster

[frigid osprey]

Crafting is where money is if u understand market

I was mostly a sceptre, helm and jewel crafting

Sometimes yes farm harvest a bit but harvest juice can be bought and its cheap

[violet nymph]

i was a blight guy honnestly

i love opening a buch of stuff

[frigid osprey]

Rf bad for blight

[violet nymph]

why so

[frigid osprey]

Thats why im thinking def not rf this season

Cuz u want builds that can offscreen

Rf aoe too low

[violet nymph]

im kinda disapointed

what do you recommend then

i wanna be unkillable that's the main point

[frigid osprey]

Hmm im not sure yet at this point

Still checking out the diff builds tbh

Lightning arrow still ok

But flimsy

[violet nymph]

i used to love lighting arrow and tornado shot but i wanna be a tank this game

[frigid osprey]

Im thinking maybe stat stacking moltenstrike

I think its stupid tanky

And does good boss damage

But aoe still a bit low but still higher than rf

[jovial igloo]

Check out Zizarans Explosive Arrow Ballista, i think he updated and uploaded it yesterday or something

i think its decent. doesnt specialize in blight but it aint bad for sure

[violet nymph]

but for delirium its monster OP i assume

[frigid osprey]

Crayz good for deli

With DoD

[violet nymph]

what is DoD

[frigid osprey]

Defiance of destiny

[scenic linden]

didn't the build loose it's firepower?

[violet nymph]

death of death

oh

[jovial igloo]

Its nerfed but he says its still a viable build

[frigid osprey]

I was facetanking 100% t16s maps at lvl 89 with defiance of destiny

[violet nymph]

i should give it a try then

[south breach]

What are the thoughts about the retaliation skill of Divine Retribution. Good bad meh?

Was considering trying that out in a build.

[lime crypt]

blight maps or just blight? coz blight can be any build as long as the 2 anoints on rings are good

[swift zenith]

did they say if manaburn max stack?

doubt it stacks infinitely, but my doubt is like in the amount

[stiff oasis]

quick question, how do we get 30 quality now?

[tawny pasture]

Drop like that

[lime crypt]

I think you don't

[plush coyote]

i think ritual can offer 30 quality items

[stiff oasis]

i see, guess its a good thing we get new enchants. harvest enchants have lesser value now

[modest kite]

Hi. is that true that in the 3.25 a new campaign "pathing" will be live? I have heard this. Does anybody has source of that?

[grizzled moon]

no?

[void urchin]

I want to do a bossing build this league, never done a bossing build ever in Poe

Don’t even know where to start lol

[grizzled moon]

at its basic you'd want to pick a skill that does good single target damage

[agile hemlock]

the classic strats is explo trap trickster, but you do want sunblast

[grizzled moon]

historically something like traps and mines

but if you're not really into speedrunning and very early bossing, its not something i would place very heavy weight on

[lime crypt]

iirc sunblast is cheap, and will be cheaper this league coz so many people flock to mele builds

[agile hemlock]

It's a couple dozen c early, and it's a rather weird playstyle.

[lime crypt]

yeah, the delay is annoying if people can't get used to it

[cunning yoke]

Out of curiosity, do all the bosses in City Square count as a map boss, or just the last one you kill? I can't remember if it was changed at some point.

[native sonnet]

they are "map bossess" but depending on what mechanic u r trying to utilize/interact, only 1 count as the "final map boss" and many mechanics specify the "final" map boss

[cunning yoke]

That's a really solid point and I didn't notice the distinction, thanks.

[austere whale]

Are there any good blight strats for 325? I wanna try it cos now its gonna be easier to sell oils

But never did it

[swift zenith]

Get a build that can clear it consistently, use your towers with the good anoints, get a good filter, get a strong pc

[lime crypt]

same as every other league, get the 2 anoints on ring for kickstart

[swift zenith]

Hope your pc survives till the end of the leafue

[austere whale]

Ok but how do I make money? Do I sell blighted maps or do them? Same for ravaged? Which is better, do I take every blight node?

My pc is fine for it

[cunning yoke]

Might be easier to just look up a guide. Anything relevant to blight in the last patch will work perfectly fine this league.

[swift zenith]

it varies a bit depending on the league and market state, but like doing the blight maps can be very profitable if you can do them efficiently

Some people prefer to sell them since it is less time out of maps, it is also good if you can bulk sell them

And the pc thing is not a meme, blight is a frequent reason of crashes in poe

[lime crypt]

just do it without anoints first, and slowly you accumulate currency, or can do expedition too

[thorn tendon]

expedition early is easy money imho

chance for a divine or something to flip, especially with the in game market this league

[cunning yoke]

Expedition is just annoying tbh. Maybe I just suck at the crafting part too bad to make it worth it, idk.

[thorn tendon]

I usually spec into dan and tujen

[swift zenith]

Atlas passives dont affect the blight maps, so the passives are mostly for you farming those maps by yoruself

[thorn tendon]

can even sell logbooks early

[swift zenith]

Expedition is reliable as always

[thorn tendon]

could also flip essences early depending on if you want to invest

[swift zenith]

Essences will be nice, specially for all those melee builds early and some late crafts

I wonder about sanctum, as discussed before not enough gold, but the rewards are super strong

[thorn tendon]

I usually run RF so sanctum is just a "complete the quest" thing and I ignore. last leagues I couldn't even give the tomes away

[swift zenith]

Tomes were too easy to get still, and economy was crazy broken too

[thorn tendon]

last league I had such a hard time getting currency late campaign to early/mid maps. Needed to regear for maps and had a valdo's drop that funded it

at start that is

[austere whale]

I did a lot of exped but Im just tired of rolling Tujen

[thorn tendon]

how so?

[austere whale]

Because its standing in hideout playing with a slider

[cunning yoke]

Hideout warriors make the most money, but I want to play lol

[swift zenith]

Cookie clicker tujen

[thorn tendon]

got ya, that is me and betrayl enchant farming

so many crap weapons just to get my enchant library for the league

[cunning yoke]

I'm pretty sure my first atlas is going to be kirac/destructive play/betrayal and just snag all the guaranteed Jun scarabs I can. They were extremely cheap at the start of last league, and since you don't really need to do all the min/maxing with betrayal anymore you can just spam executions and go.

[austere whale]

Guess exped is fun if selling currency/logbooks is worth it but my days of haggling with tujen are done

Yeah I always take betrayal

[thorn tendon]

usually go strongbox and nodes, expedition and betrayl early

get my enchants, then move on. With the orbs being locked behind catarina, the unveiled flasks are cheap now

[cunning yoke]

I basically always go shrines/boxes/essences, but I'm changing it up this time around.

[thorn tendon]

depending on what happens around the town mechanic too

gamba npc, shipping, crafting etc.

[cunning yoke]

Yeah that's true. I'm actually quite glad there's nothing for the new league on the Atlas, I think that was a wildly failed experiment lol.

Felt so locked into taking most of the necropolis nodes on every atlas

[stark sandal]

I liked being able to invest more in the leauge mechanic. I don't think it panned well last leauge but because of the leauge mechanic not because of atlas existing

[cunning yoke]

I liked it until it felt mandatory

Which I didn't realize until probably a week or so in

[native sonnet]

i think if they just did the keystones and the 3 notables that skew the type of corpses wouldve been fine

the allflame drop rate and especially the devoted mods ones are too much

[dark heath]

I can’t wait to start building a settlement!!!!

[native sonnet]

turning a negative mods into positive is like double whammy, triple with the inc/red effects

[dark heath]

Hopefully there are lots of town upgrades to chase

[cunning yoke]

I was kind of hoping there would be like a server-wide thing that's been done on other games like FFXIV. Community goals sound kinda cool.

But harder to balance for private leagues and stuff, I guess. Probably better this way.

[dark heath]

Yeah, how will that work? Will anyone see my town progress when they come for a trade?

[cunning yoke]

In other games it's typically like: everyone contributes X resource until the requirement is met, then a new thing opens up that takes a new resource, etc., but different vendors and features open up with each completion. It's pretty cool, but it's probably for the best that it isn't that way in PoE.

[lime crypt]

Can't wait for the slaves to do maps for me

[dark heath]

Yes!!! No more messing with tier 1-2 white maps 🙂

[cunning yoke]

Are there new weapon bases or only armor bases?

[real tinsel]

they said the currency market will only be this league? that aobut next league and next next 😔

[cunning yoke]

It's experimental. If it works the way they want it to, they'll probably just keep using it.

[worn drift]

Depends on how it pans out

[violet nymph]

I hope it goes core

[cunning yoke]

Like basically all features in every new league: if it's good, they'll keep it around.

[real tinsel]

ohh 😮

but isnt this idea good, how could it go bad

[worn drift]

They probably know that removing such a convenience will not be popular

Hopefully they will just tweak gold costs etc

[cunning yoke]

There are lots of good ideas that aren't executed well. This one seems well thought out, though, and my guess is that they've added it to test it for PoE 2 and will likely end up keeping it after a few changes are made.

The 10 max order thing seems like it's likely to be changed, I can't imagine that being the limit for long.

[worn drift]

Probably failing on the side of caution in terms of abuse risk

[violet nymph]

is Delirium farm good next league? or it has been nerfed?

[cunning yoke]

For sure, it's better to start off small and expand rather than start off huge and adding more limitations.

[worn drift]

Kinda makes sense to increase together with rise in economy, to avoid monopolies

[cunning yoke]

Deli farm always good

[violet nymph]

great

[cunning yoke]

I think there will be a lot of money to be made with weird exchange rates. Everyone will list for chaos/divs, but how many people are gonna have Alt to Chrome listings for example.

Or essences to ex/alts/etc. It will be fun to play with.

[bleak forge]

people are gona be flipping currency like crazy using the dual exchange rate they are gona buy one currency for cheap in one marker sell high in the other until they crash the economy

because the currecy will get uber inflated

[spark harness]

People already do that

If you find an imbalance with vendor recipes you can exploit that easily too

[bleak forge]

not like how its gona happen this league

[spark harness]

I always have a spreadsheet with current exchange rates, if anything the increased volume will stabilize the prices faster

[bleak forge]

mark my words the economy will crash so hard ggg is gona have to manually interviene

[spark harness]

That sounds like fun ^^ lets goo

[bleak forge]

lmfao

[cunning yoke]

I don't think that will happen specifically because gold and max orders both exist

[spark harness]

There will be a lot of fun opportunities to manipulate the most popular exchanges to weird esoteric ones on low volume trades though

[bleak forge]

economist could write multiple doctoral thesis with this game

[violet nymph]

Simulated economies are the real economies

[heady eagle]

what do people think about harbi now they nerfed the fun scarab?
(The Harbinger Scarab of Discernment has been renamed to Harbinger Scarab of Obelisks. It no longer causes Harbingers in an area to drop rarer currency shards, or to drop a single type of currency shard. Instead, it now causes Harbingers in Area to spawn Empowered Obelisks, and Empowered Obelisks drop Currency Shards when Defeated.)

[fading cedar]

Could anyone explain why tinctures are not dead on arrival?
They take away a flask slot in a game with many powerful flasks, both offensive and defensive, for something that's just... yet another source of "increased damage"? 🤔

[agile hemlock]

it depends on their mods

there's also a ton of tincture effect on tree

[grim basalt]

because with wardens u can get perma tinctures

[fading cedar]

Basically, any offensive tincture needs to compete with Taste of Hate, which is also defensive on top

[grim basalt]

but tinctures can give tons of MORE damage, especially if you have perma uptime with warden

[fading cedar]

Having full flask uptime isn't much of an issue

[cunning yoke]

Why does it need to compete with Taste of Hate? It just gives phys as extra cold, don't tinctures have a myriad of effects for elemental/chaos/etc?

It seems to me like you're assuming only phys damage will use tinctures and that's just wildly incorrect

[fading cedar]

These are the tincture mods, not really impressed:
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Tincture

There are some tinctures still to be revealed but the known ones aren't super exciting

[grim basalt]

there's a 100% ele dmg tincture and that's just the base amount. You can still roll mods on them

[fading cedar]

100% increased, not more

[cunning yoke]

phys as extra cold isn't more, it's also increased

?

[fading cedar]

LOL no

[agile hemlock]

you have hatred if you're running ToH for offense, that's 40% as extra

[grim basalt]

Killing Blows against Rare Monsters have a (20-30)% chance
to grant one of their Modifiers for 60 seconds budget headhunter in a flask

[agile hemlock]

honestly, with like 50% tincture effect 45% crit multi + 150% increased is kinda crazy on some builds. With 1000 inc and 500 crit multi that's almost 20% more damage.

[cunning yoke]

All I'm saying is that tinctures have 9-12% ele penetration (and 17-25% overwhelm phys) on them, and that's with zero tincture effect. You straight up aren't beating that kind of damage with a flask.

[fading cedar]

Where do you see crit multi on tinctures?

[agile hemlock]

in the reveal

[grim basalt]

the wiki doesnt contain all the information

[agile hemlock]

they showed a photo of one with 27% melee crit multi

[fading cedar]

I see, missed that, that could change the calculation 🤔

Guess we'll have to wait for the patch to hit

[agile hemlock]

if tinctures are good bow warden is meta, else deadeye IMO