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[tight crow]

i dont mean Q&A

[quartz raptor]

god i am overthinking my league starter

[silver kettle]

we'll be posting one next week

[quartz raptor]

Those patchnotes have me flabbergasted

Last time I was hit with so much info was during the legion meele overhaul

[thick torrent]

Farm league here we go

[manic obsidian]

i wanna build vig strike so bad but it's so goddamn slow

[quartz raptor]

I am tempted to make the usual outliar again

cyclone

but the big question being, bleed or impale

[violet nymph]

what insane

how do they make mid tier item then? u can just make a few sell them just like poe crafting for profit

[quartz raptor]

[native sonnet]

where to post questions? forum?

[quartz raptor]

Wouldnt even know what to use for bleed tbh

last time I played bleed was what during legion with the atziri axe

[silver kettle]

currently we're just accumulating them from observing what people are talking about

[quartz raptor]

Ouh btw was checking out if I missed any stash tabs while I wasn't able to play

Did the metamorph tabs get changed to ultimatum tabs?

[tawny pasture]

https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/category/stash-tabs

[tight crow]

yes

[quartz raptor]

Ouhhh thats good to know so I pretty much dont have to buy new tabs huh

So I can use the new supporter pack points for more skins and skill effects noice

[sweet canyon]

hey, any starter in mind ?

[lilac mirage]

Probably Perforate

either that or some other, slammier slam

or if I smoke too much of the wrong stuff flicker

[quartz raptor]

Flicker my bane of existence

[sweet canyon]

AHAHAH

[quartz raptor]

Once and never again

My boomer eyes suffered so hard when playing flicker

[lilac mirage]

That's not what bothers me

[quartz raptor]

[sweet canyon]

i dont even know what to play, its hard to choose

[lilac mirage]

but modern PoE has too much shit that when you stand in it for 0.5sec kills you

and flicker kinda just...Goes lol

[quartz raptor]

and worst of it all you right click at the start of the map, suddenly you are in the boss arena having to backtrack for all the loot xD

[glass eagle]

I feel like it's gotta be a gladiator this league. Maybe retaliation skill focused

[lilac mirage]

I didn't hate that part lol

[quartz raptor]

doubled my time spent in maps

[lilac mirage]

but ye, I wonder how crazy frostblades will be

[quartz raptor]

found it not as effective as I wanted to

[sweet canyon]

retaliation block with shield caught my eyes

[lilac mirage]

considering its only weakness was always damage, the mechanics were great.

[thorny pond]

I’m definitely doing dual wield

Not sure what skill yet

[lilac mirage]

I might try and utilize a retaliation skill

[quartz raptor]

I am on the fence to go ye olde tried and true cyclone

[lilac mirage]

I wanna believe the bait haha

[quartz raptor]

but no clue what cyclone

[glass eagle]

Some skills with enormous buffs. Glacial hammer damage effectiveness has tripled

[sweet canyon]

some buff are huge

[lilac mirage]

Yep, some got a big damage buff

Double strike will be kinda silly

[glass eagle]

Sweep too

[quartz raptor]

cyclone % dmg doubled at lvl 20

[lilac mirage]

And also consider that quality is now better

[quartz raptor]

which is insane

[lilac mirage]

AND we get unique mods on rares

powercreep will go hard

[plush coyote]

lost added damage tho

[sweet canyon]

what is the impact of this in the dps so ?

[quartz raptor]

makes statstick cyclone more viable

[plush coyote]

not much, but my facebreaker char is now useless

[quartz raptor]

mhm

bleed cyclone or impale

[plush coyote]

ye

[lilac mirage]

bleed cyclone wha

[plush coyote]

imapale is buffed

[sweet canyon]

sad

[plush coyote]

can now get 7 of them

[quartz raptor]

either deal with crap bossing and affordable prices

[lilac mirage]

and I thought goin flicker required drug use

[quartz raptor]

or good bossing and unpayable prices

[lilac mirage]

now impale, there we're talkin

[quartz raptor]

I dont wanna know how cooked paradoxica and foil prices gonna be

[lilac mirage]

very cooked

[sweet canyon]

cyclone impale mmmh

[quartz raptor]

man I remember when crafted my first foil myself

I got brainrot

[lilac mirage]

I member making a STUPID good foil in ritual league

for my flicker glad

good times, that char was busted

[quartz raptor]

took me aprox 3 mirrors of resources to get an s tier foil

[lilac mirage]

old harvest was the next best thing to an item generator we got

[quartz raptor]

the amount of sink of currency I had to put into beast imrpints

was truly sad

[lilac mirage]

oof

that is a lot yea :x

was that in ssf?

[quartz raptor]

nah

trade league

[lilac mirage]

oh that pains lol

[quartz raptor]

missed 60 ex slams

[lilac mirage]

could've just paid a mirror service then ig x_x

[quartz raptor]

and over 100 veiled slams

[lilac mirage]

bad rng be rough

[quartz raptor]

tbf

I made the currency back via tft for mirror service

but god

it was annoying to craft a foil

last cyclone I played was so much more budget friendly

hedgemon staff cyclone lul

[lilac mirage]

LOL ye that's a contrast for sure

man I'm excited for this league

it is lookin real juicy

[quartz raptor]

tbf

I got supper lucky with my chest

got that within 4-5 ex

the old days before the economy swap to divines

[sweet canyon]

for me maybe : Boneshatter or cyclone impale or bleed lacerate

any though ?

[quartz raptor]

If you wanna go impale cyclone

[glass eagle]

Lmao this is what I do on my facebreaker character

[quartz raptor]

expect stupid prices

[sweet canyon]

meh 😦

[glass eagle]

Yeah weapons and stuff are gonna be more expensive I'm sure

I think the runecrafting stuff has a lot of potential to be busted

[quartz raptor]

Even when not meta just your watchers eye alone is aprox 60-100 divines no telling how expensive a pride watchers eye will be this league

[glass eagle]

Now you can just enchant your weapon with a fucking Nimis

[quartz raptor]

watch pride + purity watchers eye be like 2 mirrors or some nonesense

then again pride always was on the more expensive side

[sweet canyon]

i put away the cyclone impale so xD

[quartz raptor]

tbf

cyclone impale can start out cheap

but the ceiling and money sink is extremely high

for example if you cant afford running 2 foils

your next best option is 1 foil + paradoxica

[sweet canyon]

foil ?

[quartz raptor]

Jewled foils crafts

[sweet canyon]

dont know, ill check

[quartz raptor]

Pretty much rapiers with as much enhanced dmg on it as you can get and impale veiled mod

[sweet canyon]

ill check, i have hard time with this part of PoE :x

[quartz raptor]

smth like this

but instead of flat phys or crit you prolly going to add a veiled mod for impale

[sweet canyon]

oooh

it's a maybe so

[quartz raptor]

this isnt even a good foil tbh

doesnt have t1 emperror

[sweet canyon]

at least its gonna be a good melee season, i hope

thanks for the info

[plush coyote]

if damage was doubled, rage was buffed, raider was removed, tinctures were implemented and it ends up not being a good melee season then its all over

[sweet canyon]

there is always one build to jinx everything xD

[quartz raptor]

and heres your "budget" offhand

for impale cyclone

I say "budget"

cause paradoxica still expensive af

[sweet canyon]

expensive at what point ?

[quartz raptor]

well its a veiled drop from syndicate

highest chance from catarina

[sweet canyon]

oof

[quartz raptor]

then you have to unveil the correct veiled mods

[celest saddle]

and even then, theres RNG on the mods

[quartz raptor]

like impale, onslaught and stuff like that

so getting a paradoxic is in itself rough

but getting a good one can get pricey

cheaper than a foil

[sweet canyon]

the more u talk about cyclone impale the less i wantg to play it xD

[quartz raptor]

but still pricey

to be fair impale cyclone is expensive for a reason

it melts bosses

to stupid amounts of degrees

impale always was on the more expensive side because it is since legion so damn busted

and well hard to come by on items

before we had veiled orbs the only way to craft those foils was with t3 aisling slam

[sweet canyon]

pricey and / or complex to craft yeey

[quartz raptor]

but with veiled orbs locked now behind catarina and people on the fence about either going for max loot safehouses or the catarina drops the prices get inflated by that due to the scarcety and people not wanting to reset their safehouses

[quartz raptor]

well you can always just outright buy a foil or pay someone to craft it for you

[sweet canyon]

could be an option

[quartz raptor]

tbh I would say foil crafting is one of the worst crafting experiences

its easier to craft minion circs or chaos bows step by step

[sweet canyon]

never craft a things beside a quiver necro league xD

[quartz raptor]

Eh I craft fairly often

cause its cheaper than trying to buy the finished items

[sweet canyon]

i have hard time un derstand craft

[sweet canyon]

i understand that

[quartz raptor]

especially dual influence chest crafting

simple enough to make a good buck on them

[sweet canyon]

have u any good link or tutorial to halp ?

[quartz raptor]

ouh gods

[sweet canyon]

i must try craft to sell settler league

[quartz raptor]

I think the ones I followed back in the day are pretty outdated with the changes to last I played

when it comes to crafting tho I always use this as a template

[sweet canyon]

and with the change of the settler league, a lot of tutorial will be outdated

[quartz raptor]

https://poedb.tw/us/Modifiers

pretty much I am always using poe db to look up modifiers

their range

how to get them

also shows you what item lvl your bases need to be to be able to roll certain mods or tiers

[urban crown]

craftofexile

But learning PoE crafting is so painful.

[quartz raptor]

still gonna hate beast crafting this league

cause no bulk imprint or split buying sadge

[urban crown]

The shortest guide about PoE crafting is 40 minutes

[sweet canyon]

too m utch 😢

[quartz raptor]

I would say

the most complicated ways of crafting

beast crafting and fractured beast splitting

[urban crown]

No, those are not most complicated, those are most tedious.

[quartz raptor]

foil crafting boils down to alt spamming till you hit tier 1 emperror then you regal

if the added mod is shit

you imprint

annull

50/50

if you hit you good

if you fail

you use imrpint to revert the item back to 2 mods

and have to imprint again and rince repeat till the mod you dont want is gone

then you imprint and exalt slam till you hit the second stat you want also with beast imprinting

after that

you either fracture

and do bench crafting

multi mod craft

lock out either prefixes and suffixes

and then it goes to veiled orb slamming

also requires imprinting

the amount of imprint beasts you need for foil crafting is so stupid

[austere whale]

does the currency AH have maps?

[quartz raptor]

No

[austere whale]

sadge

[quartz raptor]

Because maps are not identical

due to the mods they can roll

[sweet canyon]

You lost me at 'Hi, im Mark Roberts' xD

[austere whale]

I mean I Know, but you can still do it on poetrade

[quartz raptor]

that you can

they touched on that during the QA last night with ziggy

[austere whale]

would be nice for at least guardian maps

[quartz raptor]

but hey

div cards

scarabs

and all that jazz is included

[terse lance]

do we know does crimson dance and gratious violence work to together

[quartz raptor]

no more dealing with ghaunzhio the chinese price fixing overlord that never replies

[quartz raptor]

Poe crafting is wild

easy to learn, hard to master

[thin otter]

Can we get gold from all the content? (Logbook, Blight Map, Sanctum etc)

[sweet canyon]

yep, a wild land

[austere whale]

why wouldnt it?

nothing about each of them that'd stop the other

[terse lance]

crimson dance say does count as moving

and the other says count as moving

[austere whale]

no? gratuitous violence is the explode

if u mean jagged technique then no

it doesnt work

[terse lance]

yeah thats what i mean

[quartz raptor]

tbf crafting a ED bow is way simpler

requires barely any crafting knowledge

it boils down to fossil spamming and then slapping a multi mod craft on it

and be done with it

[sweet canyon]

wut ?

[quartz raptor]

yeah

essence drain bow crafting was a breeze

you pretty much just spammed fossils

till you got the 1-2 good chaos mods you wanted

shaved off the stuff you didnt like

slammed "This item can have multiple crafted mods" slammed +2 support gems and another enhanced chaos dot dmg craft on it and you were done

[sweet canyon]

only that ? Are u joking ?

[quartz raptor]

tbf

not every craft is as complicated and tedious as foil crafting

[sweet canyon]

i hope xD

[quartz raptor]

it always depends how many different crafting methods you need to use

and how much step by step work it is

another good example is dual influence crafting

its pretty simple

well....untill you get into elevating influence mods but thats a whole other storry

[sweet canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/information-information-overload-overloading-freak-out-too-much-gif-12765210

[quartz raptor]

took me myself a couple of leagues to get into crafting

[sweet canyon]

i can understand that fact xD

[quartz raptor]

I would say my favourite type of crafting is roggers poggers

Making god items with rog is always fun

tbf I love expedition

[sweet canyon]

u can craft with Rog ? xD

[quartz raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHKcgw2XdSA

just an example

you buy a base

and then gamba

rog and tujen are the big hitters of expedition

you can even get ultra lucky and rog offers to add influences to an item or even slam a veiled mod

theres a reason people say rog is pog

[sweet canyon]

ok, pog is rog

Rog is pog or whatever u say xD

[quartz raptor]

hahaha

[uneven prairie]

If i purchase something (cosmetic or otherwise) will the thing be usable on the new league? Or is stuff like that bound to specific characters?

[marsh musk]

cosmetics can only be used on one character at a time but you can swap them between characters whenever youd like

the league does not affect cosmetics

[glass eagle]

Cosmetics are kept at the account level. You can log in to any character on any league and activate/deactivate them

[simple juniper]

Hi, does anyone know if the value on the adorned stays on the existing items or if it will be changed there too because the patch notes don't say anything about it, just that the range is changed from 50-150% to 0-100%?

[manic obsidian]

stays

50-150% will be worth more in standard

[simple juniper]

i have a 149% i bought it 2 months ago for 200d now 1,5 mirror + 🤑

thanks for the answer

[neat cloak]

So with the melee and defense buffs I'm guessing the ge will be a bit "easier"?

[cunning yoke]

I wonder if expedition will be changed since they're reusing the NPCs

[winter spindle]

using heist chars too. chances not, but they may have some crossover dialogue

[neat cloak]

We need crossplay

[vast meadow]

so Faustus is just gonna be in two places at once?

[glass eagle]

Cross play for poe1 isn't realistic. I can't remember if they are planning to do it for poe2

[silver kettle]

PoE2 will have full crossplay and cross-progression

[hard nexus]

any chances we getting new transfigured gems?

[odd gate]

probably not

[tame current]

they didn't annouce beast being stackable did they ?

[glass eagle]

Today I guess I catch up on patch notes and attempt a bit of build planning

I dont normally play leagues, but this seems sick

[inland gyro]

So hyped for this league. I'm playing cleave-glad, might suck but I'm going in. lol

[sonic stirrup]

Well, they did say they're adding one, so that's almost certainly all we're getting

[minor heron]

Tincture work with wander build?

[glass eagle]

Hey @silver kettle who was on the video/writing team for the trailer and live event? They did such an excellent job of surfacing all the coolest stuff and presenting it in a nice order, nice pace etc.

[sonic stirrup]

If you're Warden

[copper lotus]

[thin otter]

I hope I can get Kingsmarch hideout with challenge rewards or point. It would be awesome.

[wise lark]

hi? there will be a nerf on sanctum for 3.25?

[high fossil]

There have been no changes to Sanctum specifically announced, but some builds that people used for it may have changed

[faint nymph]

do you guys think bleed got enough to have decent damage this league?

[fleet timber]

Equip a melee item and be a gladiator, you should be good

lol bleed looking crazy right now

[faint nymph]

what actually changed for it? it feels like the same in terms of what's in the tree

or is it mostly the aggravate + normal lab explode?

[swift zenith]

For sure, bleed a thing now. But we will have lots of people building it so expect higher prices

[lunar stirrup]

Anyone know what's "Apparition Shrine" is?

[faint nymph]

did pob get updated? i feel like ive been told this, but updating dces nothing

[glass eagle]

It's a scarab exclusive shrine type, but the wiki page for it is broken, so idk

[swift zenith]

Explosion went from 10 to 20%, aggravate also increases dmg by a good chunk, and better the new quality system also helps it

[faint nymph]

ah ok. so still use what i know from before for scaling bleeds then? increased duration + faster bleeds, stuff like that?

[swift zenith]

Yes, but I wonder if melee may have better dmg now compared to bows, due to the buffs, but no idea

I am not planning to go for bleed

[faint nymph]

yea, i was thinking of some melee build

for bleed, i know i want glad cause i wanna try him out, but yeah

[swift zenith]

It seems that chance to bleed supp gem also is nice, but again I did not do the calcs

[austere whale]

Theres a beta version in the client that sorta works

[faint nymph]

ah, ok

ty

[frigid pumice]

Do the new nodes from the passive skill tree "Hits have a % change to ignore Physical Damage Reduction" stack with each other?

[grim oxide]

Hi there, i never did a build myself and dont have necessary knowledge etc to do so. Im looking forward new league and wonder: When can i expect starter builds available on maxroll ? When should i decide which one to follow? Should i just focus on a starter build and assume i will reroll later on (like during maps or so?) for a lategame build?

[stone fractal]

Will tattoos be in this upcoming league ?

[prime tree]

they are on the league page at least, so i'd assume so. how they'll be acquired tho 🤷 they have them in the shipment part of the info, so maybe that'll be the source

[tall plover]

To be honest, one of the biggest changes for me were banners, I hated how ugly they looked on the back of the character, now when it's gone it hopefully would make them look better

[prime tree]

they should

[slow isle]

so what builds got stronger, Just meele builds?

[limber turret]

Most likely it'll be in ship rewards

[limber turret]

A lot of builds got buffed

Some nerfed

[brisk wave]

I have a question, blight ravaged maps can drop dual annointed amulets, can we change the annoints while keeping the 2 amulet slots? or would changing one of the annoints delete the other? my understanding is that dual annoint is drop only, but that base will effectively have 2 slots. thiis makes blight ravaged a god farming area for bases with 2 annoint slots and chance orbs gonna go brrrr since people gonna be scouring turtoise bases for dual annointed badges

[prime tree]

it wouldn't surprise me if this just generates an item with 2 annoints by forcing that, but if you re-annoint it yourself it will default to the normal cap of 1 and it will replace both annoints with whatever you put on it.

[queen moon]

Yo, any idea how Settlers will work in Co-Op ( specifically in tearms of city management ? ) couldn't find info anywhere about that. Basically was wondering if there's any incentive to play in a party with the new game content etc.

[fleet timber]

Its probably solo progression with shared resources from areas you go in, like those oricalchum ore veins would probably get split between party members like sulphite

[umbral hemlock]

Are there easy sources to reach 100% crit chance with explosive conc pathfinder? I'm thinking of master distiller with diamond flask, ungil's and assassin's mark but i think i'm missing one

[hot quail]

Power charges?

[hot quail]

This sound like a classic GGG move. Like divining an old item to update it to new patch values

[umbral hemlock]

pcoc works with brands right?

[feral socket]

does damage effectiveness effect bleed damage for builds like Lacerate ?

[umbral hemlock]

storm brand can, i wanted to also have a setup for temp chains which would work with arcanist brand

now idk

probably linking it to a spell like arc for pcoc

[shy steppe]

Does this just make it easier to get 30% cap of scorch or does this allow the possibility to get 60% from scorch?

[austere whale]

You can get 60%

[umbral hemlock]

^

[wraith saffron]

i ctrl+f elusive in patch note and nothing found, did i smoked some crack or something, i'm pretty sure there was a change made related to elusive somewhere

[prime tree]

not sure about your illicit substance use, the only mention of elusive i can find is when they talk about the black market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFVLcNTXtxM&t=902s

For serious crafters, it can be a great starting point for making those elusive specific endgame items
which is obviously not related to the elusive buff ingame

[wraith saffron]

yeah probably my brain making stuff up... not the first time it happened to me on this game

[high fossil]

There's at least one elusive node in the new prismatic oil anoint nodes, i think

And those weren't detailed in the patch notes

[wraith saffron]

AH ! that"s right, i'm not crazy then lol

[high fossil]

Let's not jump to conclusions...

[wraith saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/good-one-arrest-cops-gif-7857592

[pseudo snow]

Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns. It now grants Supported Skills 0–19% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 30–11% reduced Cooldown Recovery Rate), and now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". It also now cannot support Retaliation Skills. Quality now grants Supported Skills 0–10% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 0–5%).

'supported warcries do not grant buffs or charges to you or allies' Don't know if this has been clarified somewhere but does this mean enduring cry can't be automated for endurance charge generation? or that automating rallying cry won't apply the buff at all?

[wraith saffron]

you wont get the EC if automated yes

only usuable pour exerting attack (mainly slam build +overexertion)

[pseudo snow]

so is there now no way to automate buff warcries? 😐

[honest quail]

do we know how many banners can be placed at a time? still 1?

[old saddle]

Hi,
Anyone knows if it is possible to use Mahuxotl's Machination in ur off hand and still get divine flesh keystone?

[sonic canyon]

You mean in your second weapon set? No, weapons only have an effect in your current weapon set.

Otherwise, every build would be looking to get two sets of weapons to double their damage.

[hot quail]

They added an anoint

That made elusive slow down 100%

[old saddle]

Thank u 🙏

[wise heath]

Have they said where gold would drop? Or more specifically, let's say i main Heist, will monster drop gold

[sonic canyon]

I believe it drops from anything that drops items regularly.

[umbral hemlock]

wouldn't make sense if it only dropped in specific zones

[hot quail]

You put a 12-link setup in your swap for clear and a 12link in your main hand for single target...ez

Or you make a 12-link minion support setup in your offhand

[dark heath]

Is Ward like Energy Shield?

[dark heath]

pretty cool thanks

does the slot it takes on the health bar look like ES?

This is Ward?

[upper dragon]

looks like its an outside aura

[dark heath]

ohhh ok ok, thanks!

[lucid stone]

Do we have any confirmation that tattoos are back?

[steep grotto]

am I seeing this right or there are no major nerfs this league?

[grizzled moon]

dd, a whole slew of hatred builds which is half the ladder

divine blessing removed hits a lot of builds

[steep grotto]

true! auras were gutted a bit

I think the mana reservation cluster were also gutted

what shocks me was the evasion aura nerfs. was that necessary?

[sonic canyon]

You're getting more defences from equipment, so the flat evasion and armour from auras was reduced accordingly.

[upper dragon]

i've been thinking of playing around with frostblade and later going into the alternate one since its default is 60% phys to cold, does the 40% from cold mastery make it 100% or is it 40% of the remaining 40%?

[steep grotto]

oh, true!

[sonic canyon]

So 20% more rather than 20% increased from quality, plus the new base types, should generally result in more armour and evasion than before on any builds that actively specialise into it, while making them slightly less powerful for people that simply throw on Grace and Determination.

[upper dragon]

also means weaker early game since the new armor are late game

[sonic canyon]

The quality buff is present throughout, though, and it's easier to get quality early on since you'll only need one or two quality items on low ilvl stuff. Not sure how exactly it will affect things, but I think people will manage.

[steep grotto]

what does the change from increased to more do in gear? the increased only affected the base armour anyways

[sonic canyon]

If I understand correctly, quality is now multiplicative to all local stats on the item.

[steep grotto]

but 'more' and 'increase' only matter if there's other sources of more/increase

[prime tree]

it's probably now instead of (base + flat) * increases = damage where increases include quality, it's (base + flat) * increases * more from quali = damage

[brisk wave]

I just realized that ancient orbs will probably be really in demand with these ammys. If you could get a good double annoint, people will chance it till unique then spam ancient orbs till they hit the amulet they need. Might be really good to farm harbys this league

[opaque heath]

we lost ark now

[prime tree]

Items are completely reforged when an Ancient Orb is applied. Sockets and links are randomized. Influences, enchantments, and other special item traits are lost when rerolling.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Ancient_Orb#Mechanics

[brisk wave]

Oh, fuck

[umbral hemlock]

100% conversion

[umbral hemlock]

tainted mythic orb will be even more expensive now

but yee ancient orb will be prolly the same as now

[austere whale]

it's gonna be weird if settlers is super rewarding because it's not actually challenging your build at all. so literally anyone can do it assuming they have gold

[brisk wave]

Chance orbs it is then, I dont think people will risk destroying a really good double annoint amulet, atleast even if it's some low tier unique someone will still buy it for dozens of divines

Or gamble the base

[umbral hemlock]

people are crazy enough to do it :D

[brisk wave]

Amulets might just have the highest price cieling for crafting with the annoints, although the chance getting a really good universal annoint combo is so small,
something like whispers + prismatic skin would cost mirrors on the base alone

[limpid current]

even if it is it'll be adjusted after it goes core

[austere whale]

if they make it core I'll be sad

I dont want more than 1 league of mobile gaming time gated bs

[urban crown]

Holy, I really hope tinctures are trash, because warden tincture tree looks cursed

Technically, right side is useless if all good tinctures have six or less seconds cd, but I doubt it.

[limpid current]

Runescape has Throne of Miscellania and nothing happened to it

[mortal crane]

anybody willing and able to help me with updating this to 3.25 and perhaps change some of the stuff for better https://pobb.in/EEhYtoVoX6Nb

[frigid pumice]

Any easy ways to get onslaught for a melee build?

[urban crown]

Take masterful form, because endurance charge change, get ralakesh swap or endurance generation. Already better.

Rage doesn't give flat damage anymore, so no reason to use this support

[mortal crane]

it gets masterfull form from forbidden flesh

[urban crown]

Oh, right, I skipped that part.

Call to arms is monka now, flicker probably cannot use any cries.

[mortal crane]

why rala swap pob shows it as a allround downgrade

[urban crown]

Rala swap for generating endurance charges before you go into map or boss fight, or simul wave, or anything.

[sage thorn]

Also there was some random channel that "leaked" the 3.25 patch notes, and the list of leagues that have changes was: Delirium, Legion, and Torment.
Guess PoE is no exception to "leakers" that provide info that turns out to be bogus.

[urban crown]

Also flicker got mana cost reduced, so you might be able to play the game without elreon ring

[lime crypt]

so melee build will generally be more expensive next league?

[urban crown]

Define "expensive"

[sage thorn]

Also the ZiggyD Q&A mentioned that Betrayal league will probably get a major change in 3.26.
Specifically, they brought up the idea to "disconnect" the Syndicate Mastermind pinnacle boss from the league proper, mainly so that you don't have to completely reset your Syndicate Board for a chance to get a Veiled Orb.

[lime crypt]

I just say more expensive than before, I don't need to define anything

[sage thorn]

If you don't provide your definition of "expensive" for people to think about, they cannot answer your question.

[lime crypt]

wtf, it's a comparison, not a statement

I ask if it's more expensive than before, not if it's expensive in your own definition

[thorn tendon]

I know it's selfish but more people running catarina means flask enchants become cheaper. especially when my RNG sucks. to just buy cinders

[lime crypt]

what's wrong with some people nowadays, I ask if something is more expensive than before, not whether it's expensive or not, from a 15c build to a 30c build is more expensive, but neither 15c nor 30c are considered "expensive"

[urban crown]

If you think of expensive as amount of time you will have to spend to get gear, yes, literally every build will require more time, because graveyard item editor is gone.
If you think of expensive as absolute amount of currency you will need to buy items, then probably also yes, but maybe no, we don't know how much currency we will get from boats yet.
If you think of expensive as rmt, then I have no clue.

[sage thorn]

minimap is talking about trade price in Chaos Orbs.

[lime crypt]

just in terms of chaos or div, yes

[thorn tendon]

some of those insane RF helmets are gonna be a pretty penny compared to last league

[umbral hemlock]

i think the entry point will be much easier but gg items will be more expensive to buy

[lime crypt]

because of the gambling with gold?

[umbral hemlock]

recombs and we don't know what enchants will be on the blacksmith

but demand will be higher than before

[sage thorn]

The Stackable Items exchange market will provide a massive shake-up as well.

[umbral hemlock]

^

[lime crypt]

thank god nimis will drop in price this league coz can craft in cow girl

[thorn tendon]

blacksmith enchants would overtake eldritch ones right?

[umbral hemlock]

so essences may be much more available so price to craft might be lower but an exchange market is unpredictable

[umbral hemlock]

don't think those enchants are on weapons :P

the eldritch ones

[sage thorn]

And that exchange market is not just currency orbs.
It's Delirium items, Catalysts, Blight Oils, Div Cards, Essences, Breach stuff... anything that's stackable, I think.

[thorn tendon]

hmm, weapon only? interesting

[prime tree]

eldritch stuff also not enchants but implicits

[lime crypt]

eldrich are implicit, enchant are explicit

[umbral hemlock]

yep, weapon only with effects from uniques

[thorn tendon]

ty m8s

[umbral hemlock]

that's gonna shake the whole market up

[thorn tendon]

tbh it will be nice not to have to alt-tab to grab crafting stuff

[lime crypt]

look forward to 0% adorned build haha

[umbral hemlock]

i'm not sure if the ui will be friendly regarding price changes

[thorn tendon]

possibility of the trade site having one list of prices and the in game other? or are they synced ?

[umbral hemlock]

poeninja exists but

[umbral hemlock]

not sure, they work fairly different i believe

[thorn tendon]

if I know POE and league start i'll be interesting at least

[umbral hemlock]

yeee

[dreamy raven]

I cant wait to play around galdiator or warden builds

[sage thorn]

Also the skills "Reckoning", "Riposte" and "Vengeance" are gone.
Existing gems for those skills will be converted to new skills "Swordstorm", "Glacial Shield Swipe", and "Crushing Fist".

[slow isle]

i did explosive arrow ballista champ for 2 leagues now, please reccomend me something else, please.

[thorn tendon]

what ya looking for build wise?

[lime crypt]

if I'm not wrong and someone can correct me if I am, warden will be best suited for anyone playing elemetal melee builds right?

[real tinsel]

hello, whats your go-to leaguestarter?

[thorn tendon]

RF tbh

[karmic lodge]

Ima go rf this league

[thorn tendon]

it's cozy

[dark heath]

I went RF in necro and hit a wall at 93 😦

Any recommendations for something to push me further?

[thorn tendon]

I usually top out at 95-96

get bored of farming then move on

[karmic lodge]

Last two leagues I played fulcrum lol

Non mf fulcrum.

Zoomie self chill fulcrum~ great for farming heist maps

[thorn tendon]

got everything done except maven last league

had the damage, last memory game + beam kept getting me

[real tinsel]

i see, i kinda wanna play marauder too since ive played necromancer psrs, champion/trickster ss, pathfinider toxic rain,

im just confused which one to go for

[lime crypt]

mf will be dead anyway, so

[real tinsel]

of the ascendancy

[thorn tendon]

also wanted to do a mapper again this league since the town will require ton of gold and there are real life timers

[karmic lodge]

True :), ima be farming maven this league, not the boss but the invitations.

Cause the new chisels are maven chisels 🙂

[real tinsel]

😮

[thorn tendon]

new chisels will be nice too

for mapping

[karmic lodge]

Right!

[thorn tendon]

I assume they're normal table drops?

[real tinsel]

there's so much stuff added, that i cant keep up with everything

[karmic lodge]

In the live stream I saw them drop in the maven invitation area

Not sure if they will drop in normal loot table

[thorn tendon]

I get ya. Town, mining dudes, map running dudes, dudes who want to mess with your town, boat dudes, gold farming for wages. On top of your normal stuff like mapping, gear, eldritch, betrayl etc.

[lime crypt]

personally don't care about bossing in this game, will do map and get currency to buy boss carry to unlock favorite map slot anyway, and the map scry function is so damn nice

[thorn tendon]

I at least get my two voidstones

[real tinsel]

and here i am struggling which leaguestarter to pick cuz i dont wanna pick the most popular one and get screwed over by expensive gearing

[hallow wedge]

I've not played for years, can I just delete all items from old characters to make room for the new league start??

or can they be used?

[thorn tendon]

new character is league specific

[hallow wedge]

(in my stash)

[karmic lodge]

Last league I found a way to get like 70-80 stacked decks a map, might look into that again this league

[thorn tendon]

keep your standard items

[tawdry plover]

You will start fresh in the new league

[thorn tendon]

^

[gusty hull]

EA ballista

[hallow wedge]

ok ty ty for quick answer

probably a noob question but hey, i'm back to being one lol

[thorn tendon]

only thing you might have fun with Kiimbo is checking your standard tabs

[karmic lodge]

Gotta love leagues, fresh starts are nice. Just going through story every time sucks. I am a 8-10 hour story Andy

[thorn tendon]

I will miss the 200 chaos maps that I'd randomly run into with allflames

[real tinsel]

which ascendancy

[hallow wedge]

yeah need to find a video to get through the campaign asap xD

[real tinsel]

champion on it is dead, says zizaran

[karmic lodge]

Right! Gl 🙂

[thorn tendon]

curious to see if I'll feel the monster drop off since this league won't have all zone or all map modifiers

outside of the resource monsters

[lime crypt]

3.25 league of slave owners

[hallow wedge]

have they said if the new league features unlock at the end of the campaign? or is it available straight away?

[thorn tendon]

said dude is in lioneye

not sure if it's act 1 or second half

[lime crypt]

it should be right at the beginning, otherwise all the respec with gold is totally useless

[karmic lodge]

Normally leagues starts early in the story no?

Though gold is probably scarce early on

[hallow wedge]

oh nice, so we can chat to the new NPC's then carry on through campaign to earn gold, etc

[thorn tendon]

ayy, hoard gold

depending on what the drop rate is like

[lime crypt]

better than orb of regret I bet

[karmic lodge]

Oh! I meant like for upgrading ur town while doing the story

[thorn tendon]

I imagine the town + gold + other stuff is a nice leveling boon

[karmic lodge]

The respect is based on level right so that’s cool

[lime crypt]

yeah, I don;t think you have enough gold to start shipping while still in campaign

best you can is unlock tavern to do gold respec

[thorn tendon]

or mining

[karmic lodge]

Right : ( ima not do the mechanic until maps like always

[thorn tendon]

what was the last one that was a pain in the ass early?

crucible?

[lime crypt]

you need to, for gold respec

[sage thorn]

Some of y'all will be running Kingsmarch like

Cold, the air and water flowing
Hard, the land we call our home
Push, to keep the dark from coming
Feel the weight of what we owe
This, the song of sons and daughters
Hide the heart of who we are
Making peace to build a future
Strong, united, working 'til we fall

[karmic lodge]

Good drops normally from monsters no? I don’t need to go to the town right o.o

[sage thorn]

It seems Gold is dropping all throughout the game, yeah.

[thorn tendon]

from what I've seen, league will depend on the gold rate imho

[lime crypt]

from all mobs yes, and this is your first taste of poe2 gold system too

[karmic lodge]

Maven invitations dropped a few thousand

[slow isle]

Im kinda looking for a tanky map blaster , im not sure what i want to farm, legion or deli? which one is more profitable? was easier to buy essences than to try farming them last league.

[karmic lodge]

Pfft sorry I’m a little too exited about maven this league

[thorn tendon]

you look into RF Chief or Jugg @slow isle ?

[karmic lodge]

Ima go with the basic RF, deli + beyond

[slow isle]

i thought RF was dead, im guessing im wrong?

how far can you take RF?

[lime crypt]

ulti, blight got massively buffed no?

[raw flicker]

I would highly suggest a duo comp hit based srs with specific support which i have done once with a guy from friend list...on 68 he could clear T16 blight with ease...but to get a peep to play with o_O

[slow isle]

could RF do maven invitations?

[thorn tendon]

I took RF inquis to sirus, uber elder, and was farming T16s easily last league. Only died to maven due to I can't recall patterns

[slow isle]

interesting,

[thorn tendon]

melee will be nice too, or archmage

[lime crypt]

I'll probably do blight and heist map farming early league anyway for quick currency, become the shovel seller for the gold rush

[slow isle]

Pohx is the best RF builder?

[thorn tendon]

hasn't steered me wrong yet

[karmic lodge]

Ima look into chieftain RF, if fails I can always respec to a melee build

[thorn tendon]

tbh the way I do it is, find a skill that looks interesting or a play style, check out a couple content creators if it looks interesting to you

build may put up numbers but is it fun for you to play

[sonic canyon]

Good old Fortuna. Hated the open world areas, but the music is nice.

[thorn tendon]

biggest question

[slow isle]

i dabbled with archmage frost nova of ice bolts? last league, was interesting, was great clearing but EA champ had a bit better bossing i felt, although it was probably my gear and not the build.

[thorn tendon]

I usually just do expedition and ritual all league because I'm boring

[karmic lodge]

Archmage was relatively untouched in patch notes this league no?

[thorn tendon]

with a mix of strongboxes and betrayl at the start of the league until I get my 3% flask enchant

[thorn tendon]

ayy

[slow isle]

my problem is I want one build that does everything.

[thorn tendon]

what is "Everything" ?

like mechanics?

or bossing?

[slow isle]

no, blast maps then smash bosses.

[karmic lodge]

Btw ya’ll gonna miss DD?

[thorn tendon]

RF can be a great mapper, bosses depends what you're fighting

[agile hemlock]

hexblast still hexblast

so you can just kind annihilate the game with that on trickster/inquis. Sanctum hat is now rarer tho.

[slow isle]

EA champ was ok, but map clear was kinda slow.,

[karmic lodge]

I feel like RF got super tanky this league, the new armour bases, and higher hp rolls.

As if it needed it

[thorn tendon]

I ran inquis with utu's, replica south tether and saffel

[slow isle]

hexblast looks interesting,

[karmic lodge]

Oh 😮

[thorn tendon]

the loss of the phys to ele convert will make me squishy

[sage thorn]

Rising tide raises all boats, as the phrase goes.

[slow isle]

I have ADHD so my mindset is all over the place.

[karmic lodge]

@sage thorn ah yah true

[thorn tendon]

I don't look forward to rolling my flasks again this league

[grim basalt]

YOOOOO the affliction boss now drops the passive skills radius gems from necropolis

litt

they just added tons of value back into ritual

[karmic lodge]

I feel like the meta will shift once people start finding out what crafts are available from runes

[grim basalt]

100%

[karmic lodge]

True

[grim basalt]

im going in with a home brewed idea

[shrewd osprey]

I wanted to go Ele hit this league, but now they made the first gem melee only its put a dampner on it. I feel forced to use LA which is annoying me just thinking about it

[karmic lodge]

Ritual goers eating good this league

[slow isle]

LA Deadeye was fun, but i died far too much.

[thorn tendon]

wasn't there a semi HH like rune craft?

shown in the reveal

[karmic lodge]

Wha? I did not see that o.o

[thorn tendon]

lemme find it

jungroan posted it on his twitter

[karmic lodge]

Ah kk

Thanks

[slow isle]

what is kinetic blast build like?

[prime tree]

wasn't it as scuffed replica HH buff?

[thorn tendon]

pretty much

[prime tree]

like steal a magic mob mod for 20s?

[waxen kindle]

25% to steal magic mod

bootleg replica hh

[karmic lodge]

Heh

Just run the all monsters are magic scarab

🙂

[thorn tendon]

man HH was so cheap last league

[karmic lodge]

Right!

I used replica HH last league….. was running breach and deli

Lotsa magic mobs

[lime crypt]

no, good riddance

[karmic lodge]

Ha!

Right it’s dedge thankfully

Maybe, hear people are still trying to revive it

[slow isle]

i never played it.

[waxen kindle]

yeah, archmage still works with it

still a 1600% DE skill

[karmic lodge]

Oof

Had an idea on the right side for poison, converting critical multi to dot multi, using daggers and melee damage can poison. And well I spent a few hours and couldn’t make a build for it. Cause I suck at making builds 🙂

[lime crypt]

good luck with that, the build is like triple or quadruple nerfed

hardest is the desecrate max level 80 corpses only, nerfed from 100

[karmic lodge]

Right, so I went to the left side and made a volcanic fissure build, went online and put on a tabula and went into a t16 with only one aura on and random equipment with life and res, and had no issues.

Poor right side of tree

[tired phoenix]

stuck between boneshatter and shield crush which has more dmg potential on both jugg for league start

[austere whale]

Wouldnt shield crush be better on glad?

[tired phoenix]

not too familiar just thinking between boneshatter and shield crush

[digital lagoon]

Any info on what the new league mechanic will be? I’m a new player and I was enjoying the game a bit, but then I looked into the current league and heard most people have negative feelings about it. I’d love to see this game during a good league

[tired phoenix]

next league is basically poe 4.0

[umbral hemlock]

You can wait a bit for the pob to get updated but inextricable fate with the new anoint for grasping vines will allow you to poison anyone 100%

[summer sundial]

The current league was very fun and interesting the upcoming league looks like it will be a banger

[umbral hemlock]

City builder

Looking really good

[digital lagoon]

Oh, like uh, similar to clash of clans?

I don’t know many city building games 😭 that’s the best reference I’ve got

[digital lagoon]

Really? I heard some of the most active players weren’t interested in playing at all past the first week

[summer sundial]

People say a lot of things about Poe leagues

[umbral hemlock]

Micromanaging was kinda tough but items you got from the graveyard crafting were among the best

[umbral hemlock]

Kinda? Without defending, but assigning workers to do things like shipments, mining, running maps, disenchanting items etc

[digital lagoon]

Oooh mining, im down for a resource management / semi-idle kind of thing

[umbral hemlock]

Yee part of the content will be time gated but the rewards should be really good

Check poe's youtube for the reveal

[digital lagoon]

Guess I should get started the day the new league drops

[digital lagoon]

Alrighty will do

Seems fun!

[lime crypt]

you have slaves running maps for you, especially the low tier ones that you don't bother to sell bulk, and the ones with bad mods

[quartz raptor]

Pshhh workers, you have to pay them wages

So technically not slaves

[terse atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[quartz raptor]

[terse atlas]

me when i saw league

[quartz raptor]

did some pob shenanigans

cyclone still is ass

Sadge

[terse atlas]

like pure cyclone or like shockwave cyclone?

[quartz raptor]

guess wont league start spin to winn

[quartz raptor]

wanted to go impale route with 2 foils or foil paradoxica

[terse atlas]

ah

[steel river]

Detonate dead will be gone in 3.25 ? I

[quartz raptor]

So no clue what to play now for league starter

[lime crypt]

no osha, can let them die if you want, so still kind of slaves yeah, or maybe 3rd world workers

[quartz raptor]

Eh they signed up knowing the work hazzards. Wraeclast ain't a nice place.

[north drum]

bro same i only played affliction league and i went la and now i dont even know what im gonna play for this league 😭

[quartz raptor]

Imagine first getting held hostage by a bandit just to have the seering exarch scorch your citie KEK

[lime crypt]

when you have millions of gold and only pay them a few hundred, almost remind me of real life corporate world

[umbral hemlock]

Isn't cyclone's pob very weird anyways?

[subtle star]

Same

[quartz raptor]

I tried out cyclone earlier and by god

[umbral hemlock]

Technically you could go ele cyclone with warden, stack shocks and freezes with a tincture and barkskin

[quartz raptor]

cant even use all auras anymore

with the reservation changes

[umbral hemlock]

Yee u gotta play smart

[quartz raptor]

time to rock a ventors gamble for mcr

[random juniper]

Anyone knows what happened to Esoro the build maker?

[quartz raptor]

my last one is weird af

was a shockwave staff hegemony build

[crimson zenith]

yea it goes all the way to the top left for that crit node

[lime crypt]

planning to play lightning strike warden but at least 4 streamers announce that they will also play, so it will probably be an expensive build

[quartz raptor]

I was thinking about maybe lacerate gladiator

or slams

but dunno

[lime crypt]

one thing I know though, eviscerate is a god damn good leveling skill for melee build

[umbral hemlock]

Ngl i would go for a lightning coil / cloak of flame so i can dodge the determ/grace buffs and get petrified blood

Tho i do that for a pathfinder so results are different

[quartz raptor]

yeah I got a heart attack when I saw determination having as much reservation as a damn herald

[umbral hemlock]

Yeee

Also there's two aura nodes for mana reserv, mana node node very close to ranger start so another mana reserv and there's anoints too

You can go like that to add more auras

[prime tree]

https://ie.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/yxnv5z/does_anyone_know_what_happened_to_esoro/ 🤷

[quartz raptor]

wont change the fact that the build got extremely worse with the changes to glad

cant get old glad stacks anymore on slayer with forbidden flesh

rip arena challenger stacks

[umbral hemlock]

Impale is good now tho?

I mean yeah glad is different now

But impale is so much better with double DE

Tho cyclone is not my thing i will try weird builds

[quartz raptor]

thing is

impale by itself is good

but impale cyclone

good luck league starting that

when your lowest grade endgame weapon is atziris dissfavour

and then the next upgrade is to change to dual wielding foil + paradoxica

on top of that getting a watchers eye with prider and purity?

Way too expensive to match the dps of other league starters for less investment

[umbral hemlock]

Hmmmmm

[quartz raptor]

plus with the removal of the flat phys on cyclone you are even more pegged to get big dick phys weapons to scale the new % dmg on the skill gem

[sage thorn]

That or just get lots of Whetstones.

[umbral hemlock]

Quality on gear is multiplicative now so that's a buff for dmg most of the time

[quartz raptor]

120%+ dmg wont do much if your overall flat dmg is ass now

[umbral hemlock]

Well

You can go hipster with energy blade

[quartz raptor]

I already can see the prices of j-foils

god foils like this already cost like 3 mirrors when its not meta LUL

[umbral hemlock]

Since there's gonna be items with higher es rolls so you can just do some weird stuff

I mean mirror worthy items are for ppl who spend 16 hours a day and stream too

[quartz raptor]

thing is

[sage thorn]

We'll see how Recombinating works.

[umbral hemlock]

^

[quartz raptor]

even without getting the synthesised implicits

just the t1 rolls

already is like 2 mirrors

[mortal crane]

i am so lost i cant decide what build to do for league starting

[manic obsidian]

frostblades

[quartz raptor]

We already know they answered that in QA

no more mutated mods

only combining two items

[umbral hemlock]

Yeah cyclone has never been my thing

Still shouldn't be too tough to get started and you should respec easily now

[sage thorn]

Yeah, making respecs cheap at low level, and using a resource that drops everywhere in the game, will help a lot.
Lets you undo early build mistakes more easily.

[umbral hemlock]

Yeee

Also scour orbs will be more cheaper due to gold

So it will not be punishing to respec

[quartz raptor]

@sage thorn For refference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSj7y7fQ4X8

timestamp

52:14

basic recombination no op recombination

No more random mutated stats and no more rare random stats showing up, only combining

[cunning yoke]

Still broken af

[quartz raptor]

the pain

[umbral hemlock]

It will still let you make some great weapons

[quartz raptor]

first I need to decide on a starter

[umbral hemlock]

Idk i'd still use recombs to get two +1 skill gems cus that's reasonable

[sage thorn]

Some people yearn to go even further beyond.

[cunning yoke]

I think I prefer that honestly. I didn't really like not knowing the actual possibilities for recombination

[umbral hemlock]

Kalandra's there for them then :p

[sage thorn]

The Reflecting Mist, yeah.

[umbral hemlock]

It can give you a +2 all skill gem, right?

[mortal crane]

[umbral hemlock]

Cus i'll spam it till i get the perfect ammy

[digital lagoon]

me when i found out there is an end to necropolis league

[terse atlas]

real

[manic obsidian]

hoping adorned dies :)

[terse atlas]

people still gonna use it for sure

[manic obsidian]

i don't have to feel obligated to use it this time around

[sage thorn]

Good, someone made the jokes out there somewhere.

[lime crypt]

use a 0% to show dominance

[terse atlas]

[terse atlas]

were u kickin about hypxiel skyblock server aswell i recognise ur name lol

[native sonnet]

is this supposed to be 5% and 12% or actually flat 5 and 12? lol

[quiet sail]

I have to think it meant %

Because flat 5 and 12 would be laughably low

[digital lagoon]

i believe i was for a while, yeah

i haven't talked there for about 3 months though, impressive memory

[terse atlas]

lol i used to play on a coop a shit ton so

quit a while ago tho

coop quit so did i

[cunning yoke]

I think this might finally be the league that I play SST

[grizzled moon]

if you can try it out first

[plush coyote]

does elemental hit work the same way than the current taming?

like 50 shocks would give insane boosts, or 2 scorchs would give 2 boosts

nvm read the wiki it doesnt

[cunning yoke]

Is it a weird skill to play or something?

[sterile atlas]

Taming is also getting changed, in case you've not seen the post

[plush coyote]

i didnt

tho it was obvious it was gonna be changed

[sterile atlas]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1e7bo06/me_as_i_keep_refreshing_and_ctrlf_the_taming_in/le0ysz2/?context=3

[grizzled moon]

you have to aim it, that gets old for some people

[cunning yoke]

Ah yeah I don't really mind that

[old saddle]

Any replacement for divine blessing for my toxic rain ballista?

[limber turret]

Use the divine blessing boots

[balmy dagger]

when does necropolis end? 23?

[grizzled moon]

yep, around there

[violet nymph]

23 and settlers 26

[balmy dagger]

so it gets disabled at the beginning of 23rd or it lasts till its end?

[old saddle]

What's the name of it?

[grizzled moon]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/March_of_the_Legion

[terse atlas]

are atribute stackers viabale at all at league start?

[gritty flare]

depends but probably not

gotta make a lot of divines early league

[terse atlas]

yea thought so

[agile hemlock]

Some are

intstack WI is afaik quite doable

[terse atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLDIBezc-XM&t=103s i was watching this and it looks really fun so i was just wondering

int and dex

[prime tree]

necropolis ends on the 23rd, you'll no longer be able to play in that league and all your characters, progression and stash contents will be moved to their parent league in standard. On the 26th, settlers will start and you can create a new character there. (or play standard instead or quit the game completely i guess)

[balmy dagger]

does it get disabled at the beginning of 23rd (0:00) or at the end? (23:59)

[old saddle]

Thank you 🙏

[grizzled moon]

its disabled some time during that 24 hour window, i'm not sure if they've already said

[grizzled moon]

right, that

so thats closer to midnight in europe than not

[balmy dagger]

I see it's exactly midnight here, thank you

[silver rover]

Will I sort out all of my remove only standed stash tabs this time… probably not

[terse atlas]

idk what to do while i wait for league ;-;

[loud blaze]

I play cyberpunk or mtg

[terse atlas]

fair yea

[ember lodge]

Do we know if gold coins can drop in Sanctum yet?

[high wing]

Didn't drop any in the teaser, but can't be sure

[ember lodge]

shame

[verbal tapir]

i think ive played like 8-10 different games in past 3 days just trying to wait it out lmao

[terse atlas]

Real

[golden urchin]

I've been doing hcssf runs for the past few weeks, kind of fun to treat this game like a roguelike and see how far you can get with a character on a specific build

definitely not for everyone though

[shy steppe]

No. Elemental hit is per ailment type. It's a misphrase.

[valid vigil]

any idea if we saw any crucible mobs mentioned in videos, endgame mechanics, or patch notes? I love frostbearers and wish for them back in the game

[sonic stirrup]

I didn't see any anywhere, and I watched the stream and read the patch notes

Though we did have a return of corpse items, although nerfed

[thick nexus]

LMAO BRO me too... Last Epoch, Elden Ring, The First Decendant

[plush coyote]

so scorch + EE = -85% elemental resistances

shock = 100% increased damage taken

unbound = 80% more ele damage

and freeze is freeze

[sonic stirrup]

You gonna run ele hit?

[plush coyote]

prob not

[sonic stirrup]

Then wild strike?

[plush coyote]

i need to sustain unbound so i cant do only 1 ailment

[plush coyote]

prob, but ill go early with ele hit

[sonic stirrup]

Sounds like you're not proccing EE then

[plush coyote]

ye ik

still a lot of damage buffs

[sonic stirrup]

Also, you do realise that you can't perma sustain unbound right

[plush coyote]

ye, it loads in about 5 secs

with proper as

idk if this math is right but i think the overall more multiplier is good

when pob updates ill make the build

[true thunder]

Do we have any confirmation from devs if Warden's new nodes Oath of Spring(Shock), Oath of Summer(Scorch), Oath of Winter(Freeze) are working with Hits from Mines ?

[sonic stirrup]

If you can get the 100 stacks in 5 secs it's right yes

[plush coyote]

if it doesnt specify then it should

[sonic stirrup]

No. But I can tell you there's no real reason to believe they won't work, especially when you look at Elementalist.
There's 0% chance Avatar of the Wilds will work though, but I see you didn't list it

[limpid haven]

anyone know what skill they using at 6:00 or is that a new gem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFVLcNTXtxM

[waxen kindle]

storm rain

[limpid haven]

thx

[upper dragon]

probably too much work to try and keep everything synced for max uptime for a league starter, but think static strike shockwave could be any good for casual?

[cunning yoke]

Wait so was the scarab leveling method untouched?

[hasty eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcRvBFaLpA

[violet nymph]

Beautiful

[devout barn]

So, league mechanics and progress in the settlement are character bound, not account/league bound?

[barren crescent]

I dont think that was answered, unless it was in ziggy qa

[barren crescent]

Yes we know the ins and outs of the reward structure of the league that is launching in 5days

[wild arch]

Is snaking fissure the highest scaling per attack skill now?

318% 4 times

[terse atlas]

vorp?

[wild arch]

?

[terse atlas]

👽

[stable yoke]

So are we going to be mapping ourselves too in this league?

Or will everyone just sit in hideout even more 🤔

[lime crypt]

The slaves can't do difficult maps, you have to do, and if you only stay in hideout, you have no gold to do anything with league mechanics

This league is quite anti hideout warrior

[agile hemlock]

Or the materials you get from maps

It's also anti bosser/delver afaict

[limber turret]

Up to you how much you play

Or how you play

[limber turret]

Gold is accountbound aswell, so bot runners will have a difficult time making exchange market bots

[lime crypt]

Yes, absolutely chad feature

[limber turret]

Not really in terms of gold, cause you get gold from any enemies you kill it seems

[agile hemlock]

I assume if you want to do trading you'll need the other materials

[limber turret]

Oh that's what you meant

I mean, who knows?

Bosses do drop runes for runesmithing from what the content reveal said

They might drop resources too

Not sure about Delve though, doesn't seem like there'll be much done for it

Or heist for that matter

[terse atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-forsen-pajlada-tweetney-derpatronic-gif-22102731

[agile hemlock]

I would assume resources are only from the goofy encounters in maps.

[lime crypt]

I understand your point, if you want to do shipping trade routes, you need the farming from cow girl, and also the mines you find inside maps to harvest by slaves

[agile hemlock]

That's what it sounds like to me, yea

[lime crypt]

but really, I wonder at which day of the league can I have a ship shipping back a few div in its reward like showcased in the video

[agile hemlock]

I mean, you care about the runes for enchants

Or magebloods if it can print those

[lime crypt]

haha, I assume mageblood will be infinitely rarer next league than necropolis

[agile hemlock]

Who knows, maybe you burn 9k of extra fancy juice and you get back a shipment of T0 uniques

[lime crypt]

assume you get it back, or some pirates will get your mageblood

[high fossil]

Pirate boss getting buffed by the loot he steals from you...

[fringe arch]

Mann

I just figured out my perfect content last league

And like

Two thirds aren't viable this league

Well mostly just one third that's obsolete

[agile hemlock]

it is honestly kinda based league - you need mapping for resources, bossing for rescuing your workers, and HO warrioring for managing the town

actually, would the automated mappers produce resources

that may let pure boss players thrive still

[vernal cloak]

If all melee is buffed does this mean Minions that deal melee damage also had a base damage increase or because they're a "Spell" summon skill they remain unchanged? Anyone got thoughts on the matter.

[wild arch]

Minions don't use skill gems so nothing changed

[winged wedge]

My big worry about the league is all the different input-reward ratios that can get messed up. Like, good runesmithing being absurdly rare, or the resource-hoarding monsters being overtuned, or shipping journeys having zero payoff

I also imagine people will be complaining about gold all the time

I do love that we can disenchant trash gear into something useful

[upper dragon]

one change i find interesting but probably kinda useless is letting chance to bleed affect minions, though i'm not sure how their damage normally scales. wouldn't it generally just make each minion cause very small bleed and without crimson dance (which i don't think will affect the minions) bleed doesn't stack right?

though perhaps the purity sentinels might have the scaling for it to do something i'm a noob

1000 hr noob

[sonic stirrup]

I wouldn't necessarily say very small, but yeah, it won't be very good with large amounts of minions, though I wonder if it could be relevant on some minion somewhere
Keep in mind that what changed is just that the Support Gem Chance to Bleed Support no longer has the line: Cannot support minions (not exact wording).

[jagged kettle]

Can we list currency from the currency stashtab on the new TM or must we use the NPC Interface?

[sonic stirrup]

Did the NPC interface have an option to list currency for sale at all?

[jagged kettle]

By NPC Interface i meant this and they only show the workflow within this interface on how to list items on there. So i was curious if the Stashtab lists the items on the same market.

[upper dragon]

i just checked the reveal again, the trader stores the item and takes it out of your inventory

[jagged kettle]

So probably no?

[upper dragon]

have to interact with the npc yes, especially since its a test feature atm

[sonic canyon]

There's a gold fee for placing the order, so it's a separate thing to listing it on the trade website.

As seen here

[upper dragon]

if they keep it later they might integrate it, but for now its separate

[jagged kettle]

Well maybe they could make an workflow within the currency stashtab so we do not have to go throught the NPC. Would be nice QoL

[sonic canyon]

Maybe if it sticks around, for now it's exclusive to the league and to its NPCs.

[upper dragon]

like the respeccing, they didn't say they are removing regrets so its just we have another method of doing it this league

[pulsar juniper]

going through the npc is the only friction that'll slow down automation

[upper dragon]

that and obtaining the gold to use it

[pulsar juniper]

exactly.

[upper dragon]

since we don't know if the ships or town maps can get gold which i doubt GGG would allow

i just like the idea that each bot has to farm several hours of campaign and maps just to get started TRYING to abuse the systems

[jagged kettle]

I think all workers are supposed to be gold sinks

[sonic canyon]

Gold is supposed to be tied to your actual play time, so being able to passively farm it through town mechanics would kinda go against that.

[upper dragon]

need some sort of reason to play the main game. farming gold in maps, finding ore veins, need some form of intrinsic motivation to pass the time instead of just sitting around

even if you mainly just want to do the league stuff

[sonic stirrup]

I know you meant that one, but I did not get the impression that it lets you create listings, only that it queries existing listings that appear on the bulk page on the trade website

I did not look very closely at it though

[sonic canyon]

The new interface has nothing to do with the trade website.

[upper dragon]

it appears that the server has an internal storage, when someone lists an item to sell it takes that item along with the ratio/item combination so that when someone else puts in that they want to buy using the opposite ratio (fusing - chaos, chaos - fusing) then it just pools it together and you can just pick out that number from the pool

at about 14:06 in the content reveal video you see when he places the order for fusing, chaos disappears from his inventory. so i assume the person selling the fusing had the opposite, they wanted chaos so fusings were taken from inventory

[ebon goblet]

Have any more of the new weapon enchants been posted anywhere?

[hoary mulch]

Nope. Just the one screenshot showing that it's probably big mods from uniques

[spare urchin]

i cannot wait

this will be dope

[tall hinge]

Will gold respecs make build choices a bit more forgivable for noobs?

[sonic stirrup]

Probably

[lilac mirage]

Yep, probably!

Since from what I can tell you still get respec points and orbs of regret

[untold dragon]

I think the gold "tax" to trade currency will soon be seen as a "gold to div conversion". Basically you spend you 200k gold to buy a lot of something that is currently flooded and then instantly list it for bulk sale on the trade site. People that don't have the gold buy 500 chisels on the market will pay more raw currency for the stuff you just bought. So you basically convert your gold to chaos/div profit.

[real tinsel]

what does warcry have infinite power mean?

[agile hemlock]

Warcries often do sometime per power up to a cap, this means the warcry always does the capped thing

[real tinsel]

wow

[real tinsel]

so as long as i hit even 1 enemy with warcry, itll max out the power?

[agile hemlock]

Even 0 enemies

[real tinsel]

wtf

[agile hemlock]

It's good

Was on redblade banner before

[real tinsel]

whats a redblade banner

[noble python]

That makes sense. It depends how plentiful gold is also

[agile hemlock]

or well, still is, chieftain just also has this https://poedb.tw/us/Redblade_Banner