Thats some rookie numbers
#1┃mirage-league
tawny pasture
lucid pilot
No not trolling. But I don't have the time to be messaging lots of players for a gem or an item this far into a league which btw has the most player retention to date Necropolis the player base quit ages ago. I love the game but honestly it's a over-saturated complete mess in it's current state... just my opinion
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone, but GGG needs to wake up and smell the bacon!
urban obsidian
Are you on Ruthless? We've been able to buy all gems from Lilly in Act 6 since... 3.0? And she's been in your hideout since 3.17.
naive solstice
how much would something like this go for, I just graveyard made it
urban obsidian
#price-check📉 idk PS market
sonic stirrup
No not trolling. But I don't have the time to be messaging lots of players for a...
Well, you said gems. And if you're not playing Ruthless, in act 6 you do in fact get a vendor that just sells all the gems, aside from transfigured, which you need 0-2 of, and awakened or exceptional supports, which you only really need many in very high end builds.
Don't like the trade system in general? That's fair enough
tall plaza
what does this league ends ?>
high fossil
The exact date hasn't been announced yet, we should be getting that information soon though. The next league should be starting late in this month, though.
maiden mural
2-3 more weeks 
tawny pasture
why ?
sage thorn
Can someone confirm if Tane Octavius himself is still present in the endgame Hideout, even if Metamorph has been removed from Core?
raw garnet
is anyone able to take me thru uber elder for the voidstone on necropolis?
maiden mural
When will we get teaser for next league?
honest egret
should be soon ish
teasers usually start about 3 weeks before new league, and since its announced for end of this month, it should happen any time now
maiden mural
Maybe this Friday :)
sage thorn
teasers usually start about 3 weeks before new league, and since its announced f...
For reference, 3.25 is aiming for late July, and the "GGG Live" content reveal of 3.25 is aiming for mid July.
honest egret
sounds about right, but usually like twitter teaser posts happen too
pseudo basalt
When the new league starts?
honest egret
just talking about it 2 messages up
agile oxide
😅
agile oxide
Nahhh
maiden mural
10 grams then?
agile oxide
0.5 grams
maiden mural
Fair enough
agile oxide
But not food
maiden mural
:(
blissful galleon
Dud what happened with global 820
It feels like global 1 now
Some dude saying how his leveling build sucks
While the other says to "get better" in a sort of way
I thought g820 was a helpfull place, maybe all g1 switched to g820 since g1 is now helping lmao
torn niche
I think league is just kinda dead
blissful galleon
I think the mods gave up on poe 1 lmao
From what i see, everyone in the active channels are just assholes atm
Plues where tf is the tft dc?
torn niche
You have to find it outside of this discord. Can't post in invites to other discords in here. (I think that's the case with most discord servers though)
torn niche
I can DM that if you want, I think
blissful galleon
I cant even search it in dc dashboard
torn niche
Bot would swat a link though
blissful galleon
Ye dm me it
torn niche
I got in trouble for linking that in here once 😅 then a mod rescued me lul
elfin warren
any idea for price?
torn niche
I don't know for sure. I think malevolence is the best mod?
elfin warren
ive no clue, it's my 1st uber elder kill and dropped this
little gust
we done did it. first lvl 100 character i've ever had
analog compass
gz
ruby forge
maiden mural
what is the new teaser, expedition rework?
tawdry plover
Doubt it's a rework, the new league will expand on the story of expedition it seems
maiden mural
a new and improved
echo grove
Expedition 2, even slower this time
maiden mural
10 minutes to blow up the site
barren crescent
20 minutes per house/land/colony on a chain
elfin warren
just dropped this in lair of the hydra yellow strongbox, not bad
proud imp
hi if someone stop necropolis and have a nimis ring plz i really need it 🙂
sonic stirrup
!rule 6
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sonic stirrup
Whoops
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little gust
huh... is sirus generally a hard boss? smoked him first try no deaths
never done it so have no context
agile hemlock
sirus is pretty build dependent afaik
little gust
just doin ele hit of the spectrum
i could see him being much harder for a melee build
patent eagle
melee builds play a different game
agile hemlock
hm, I would expect some issues since he loses all ailments on tp, but if you have enough DPS, he's fine.
little gust
hm, I would expect some issues since he loses all ailments on tp, but if you hav...
welp. build is doing ok then i guess. just hit 100, so i'm tackling a bunch of rippy stuff now
agile hemlock
it is kind of impressive to do it on a non-tanky build tho, props
little gust
thanks! my build is a bit tankier than most ele hit builds i've seen though. not sure what that actually amounts to since it's still a bow build hahah
dropped hands of the high templar. how to you get up to 5 implicits? just keep vaal orbing it?
alright.... shaper iss tupid easy too? why have i not been farming these all along? hahaha
agile hemlock
shaper is easy, ye.
little gust
i'm just going ham now trying all kinds of hard fights
5 way legion fight coming up next hahaha
well that was just plain fun
how do you even go about pricing a brutal restraint that isn't on the market?
sonic stirrup
how do you even go about pricing a brutal restraint that isn't on the market?
Price it higher than its worth and slowly drop the price until it sells
If you're dreaming high you price it higher than any brutal restraints
little gust
If you're dreaming high you price it higher than any brutal restraints
if i've learned anything in life... it's never dream that high 😂
whole thistle
Is necropolis worth starting a character now and playing through?
sonic stirrup
Is necropolis worth starting a character now and playing through?
I'd say no, not with just 3 weeks left. But that's really up to you and how much you like the cosmetics and starting over in quick succession
terse lily
Anyone want to run maps together?
charred quest
Vast iri desert in necropolis made me want to cry
Bc it was so laggy and then the monsters got a bunch of life and resistance modifiers
hidden talon
Is necropolis worth starting a character now and playing through?
You have time to do the vault/some challenges at least.
I've had a lot of fun, despite starting recently
snow venture
some one exp me ?
mental vortex
How much longer before the league ends ?
devout osprey
a little before end of july
mental vortex
Frek okay thanks
mental vortex
Wut
maiden mural
So this league should end 23 of July
mental vortex
So this league should end 23 of July
Nice thank you
lyric sky
feels kinda weird because this is my 2nd league playing, but Necropolis has sucked the joy out for me so I can barely bring myself to have my character finish act 9 lmao- excited for the next league, I've got a hunch it's gonna be a fun one tbh.
torn niche
What are some fun ways to juice maps? I got 44 left for the tiers challenge but it's so boring to just run white maps
agile hemlock
exiles + beyond portals
torn niche
That does sound glorious
Is it lucrative or expensive?
I could just enjoy the mayhem though
agile hemlock
shouldn't be too expensive, but probably not lucrative, got nerfed
agile hemlock
anarchy embers are now just 1 exile per pack IIRC
torn niche
Ah, yeah
blissful crypt
curation shaper could be fun to some... you could lose money or earn a few hundred divs who knows, its very swingy
blissful crypt
typical legion dunes was very fun to me but very low profit lol
agile hemlock
it's also one of those cringe strats that scales with delirium
torn niche
How many reward tiers can a normal exiles/beyond map give on delirium?
agile hemlock
I don't know, it's usually the other way around, the quant bonus from deli applies to beyond demons IIRC.
actually let me double check
agile hemlock
yea
torn niche
Do you need more than 1 deli orb?
Since they're scaling difficulty a lot if you get 4-5
But 1-3 I think this build could probably handle
4 too except exiles and massive amount of beyond...
agile hemlock
I am not sure, I didn't look into it post nerf, I just remember it being cool.
peak hemlock
agile hemlock
congrats
blissful crypt
nicee
analog compass
mai boi
maiden mural
That quicksilver flask looks enticing 🤤
lilac notch
hello! is there someone who would like to help me price some items? preferably an ice nova of frostbolts player 😄
coarse bridge
Do I have time to do a fresh start before season ends ?
silver kettle
Do I have time to do a fresh start before season ends ?
You have two weeks
coarse bridge
That’s plenty thanks @silver kettle
prisma goblet
can u get aisling craft in an item or do i need to ask for a service that has one ready ?
torn niche
Aisling is gone, she is was replaced by Veiled Orb
frosty basin
What does "static life bar" mean?
silver kettle
What does "static life bar" mean?
a boss life bar that is always visible while you are fighting it, as opposed to only being visible when you are targeting the boss
frosty basin
Oh neat!
bleak crypt
a boss life bar that is always visible while you are fighting it, as opposed to ...
can you tell if its a toggle option?
i saw some people that might prefer how it is currently over a static life bar
violet nymph
a boss life bar that is always visible while you are fighting it, as opposed to ...
Remember back in the day when players had to beg for normal mobs to have those tiny HP bars, now GGG adds huge HP bars without anyone asking
Xd seems core philosophy can change
tawny pasture
Remember back in the day when players had to beg for normal mobs to have those t...
not because you didnt asked that i wasnt asked by other
and its also a featur that gonna be in poe 2
maiden mural
How about no health bars at all
violet nymph
How about no health bars at all <:kek:1045021806144262244>
thats what they wanted on release
but players cried too much and they caved
limber turret
thats what they wanted on release
Wdym bro
Health bars were always a thing
For PoE atleast
Even Diablo 2 had healthbars for enemies
Diablo 1 didnt though
violet nymph
Health bars were always a thing
barren crescent
a boss life bar that is always visible while you are fighting it, as opposed to ...
Is there option to toggle this feature?
maiden mural
thats what they wanted on release
Would have left us guessing on how much the enemy has health left
silver kettle
Is there option to toggle this feature?
I'm not sure sorry!
barren crescent
cus I can alreayd see myself malding at the boss being hidden behind the HP bar and one tapping me
maiden mural
cus I can alreayd see myself malding at the boss being hidden behind the HP bar ...
Atleast it’s not in the middle of the screen
lost flare
Any advice on 6 unique map boss ritual alter challenge?
solemn heart
Run a map with Horned Scarab of Pandemonium
A map where you can rush the original boss room will also help
elfin warren
yo guys, dropped this.... does it worth running or just sell?
i was surprised it's around 23div right now
elfin warren
ty
jaunty gorge
!leagues
drifting thicketBOT
Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.
Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.
If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.
For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028
The Necropolis league starts:
PC - <t:1711738800:R> on <t:1711738800:F>
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This information was last updated on March 27th. The above should show in your local time if you have the right timezone set with your discord account.
jaunty gorge
is that a pretty standard launch time for each league? e.g. can we expect settlers to launch around the same time
maiden mural
is that a pretty standard launch time for each league? e.g. can we expect settle...
Don’t we know already that it’s launching 26th
jaunty gorge
time
but yes
my question was specifically about the time of release. It's the first time im around for league start
nvm just realised the time was in the teaser
1pm jul 26th PDT
jaunty gorge
hell yeah, 6am saturday for me
maiden mural
Imma just hit the sack and wake up in the morning
No point if the servers crash every 4 minutes
high fossil
hell yeah, 6am saturday for me
Best launch time on the planet, i reckon. Wake up, log in, pause for brunch eventually
jaunty gorge
yeah i should be able to clear my weekend too, and i usually wake up pretty early anyway so queuing shouldnt be too much of a problem
do "good" league start builds change much league-to-league? am i safe to just pick something off maxroll now and start planning?
tawny pasture
Not safe
jaunty gorge
and how different is the econ early league compared to halfway through? i enjoy rog crafting, i was hoping i'd be able to make some decent currency off that because it was useless by the time i started this league
tawny pasture
Best time is 2-3 day before league start
jaunty gorge
do we get patch notes in advance?
tawny pasture
Monday
jaunty gorge
ohhh cool okay
tawny pasture
League start friday
jaunty gorge
give the geniuses a few days to figure it out
tawny pasture
So tuesday and saturday for you
jaunty gorge
follow up question
are maxroll builds updated quickly enough then, or should i be looking elsewhere?
tawny pasture
Should be each league
tawny pasture
If not really updated built still there the it mean its mostly the same or excatly ?
tawny pasture
wait, is there a change?
?
honest egret
or was not Monday not the answer to do we get patchnotes in advance ?
jaunty gorge
wait, is there a change?
monday, the week of the new league
honest egret
no
patchnotes drop after the reveal stream
at least that was the case last couple of leagues
tawny pasture
Yeah and its often pretty close to the launch day
honest egret
so friday-ish a week before league
the stream is next thursday
and yeah, ppl have like a week to figure out new builds and update old builds, so there will be some by the league start
jaunty gorge
yeah okay
either way, i won't get too attached to anything prior to the tuesday or wednesday
honest egret
every big content creator will make a video of reacting to the reveals and reading through the patchnotes, so pick the one who is known for playing similiar stuff to what you like and you'll get some opinions on whats fucked and whats not :)
jaunty gorge
that makes sense. I will have to take a look
high fossil
either way, i won't get too attached to anything prior to the tuesday or wednesd...
Watch the reveal stream, look at the big countdown on pathofexile.com's main page to make sure of the timing
Patch notes should be available afterwards, but i agree that letting content creators digest it and pick out details is the way to go
My strategy is to pick a build i like, then wait for patch notes to see if it gets nerfed or if something else stands out as better. It helps to have a reference point for comparison, i find.
honest egret
i pick based on what i feel like and what feels okay-ish for the league mechanic
jaunty gorge
right, that makes sense. This league i really enjoyed playing CF champion. I played an outdated hoag jugg build that was fun, but not good, and recently I tried maw of mischief ele but didn't get to the point where it was all that strong.
I think i want to try something like ele deadeye https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/lightning-arrow-deadeye-league-starter
given how strong bow builds have been this league i probably should have just done that now, but oh well
honest egret
there will very likely be some bow starter viable next season, if it still will be lighting arrow we'll see
high fossil
Even if "the meta" shifts away from LA deadeyes after this league, i doubt it'll strictly be a bad build. We might just see a better option pop up, plus people have played it a lot the last few leagues and seem keen for something new. I reckon an ele bow deadeye of some kind will be viable
honest egret
yeah, like they would need to really nerf it hard to kill it, and i dont see a reason for that, since its not op
jaunty gorge
yeah fair enough
maiden mural
I need new league right about now
neat crow
hellow... my fist league is ending and I got some bodies in the cellar. i'm probably gonna used them to craft a nice 6l armour since i don't have one but economically speaking what would be the best use? fracture haunted modifiers (i've seen people get + power/frenzy charges)? or sell my frac corpses for some divines?
agile hemlock
what do you want the currency for?
neat crow
i have no idea since i've been playing for less than two weeks and have never been to standard 🙂
but i suppose my moneys are coming with me to standard...?
agile hemlock
ye, if you just want to have legacy gear for std, probably fracture haunted mods.
neat crow
which ones would you get?
agile hemlock
+1 mana per 2 int seems to be the big one
neat crow
interesting... is this why the increased mana mod tier corpse is so valuable? (but does it even increase the chance of gettting the mod?)
agile hemlock
probably
violet dust
the corpse u want is the one that adds a haunted mod to the item, then i guess the mana is usefull cuz now that the mod is in the pool u are prob able to increase the odds of hitting it
tawny pasture
but i suppose my moneys are coming with me to standard...?
Will you play standard tho ?
agile hemlock
Most league players only go into standard to test things and very rarely make absurdly high end builds
tawny pasture
As a new player
There is no reason for you to continue in standard really
What youve learn in 2 week will help on your next char
neat crow
trying to plan a graveyard craft with craft of exile... when i put -2 explict modifiers and select two prefixes it gives me 0% chance -- is this buggy or can an item not roll with two prefixes and zero suffixes?
mystic jolt
No, 2 affixes means magic item, so maximum 1 suffix and 1 prefix
(gy crafts start with 4 affixes)
idle sluice
Do HC Necropolis characters go to SC Necropolis league if they die?
mystic jolt
It starts at 4 and you can have 6 with 2 +1 explicit
idle sluice
standard sc
Dang. Thanks for the response.
peak hemlock
hellow... my fist league is ending and I got some bodies in the cellar. i'm prob...
don't use coffins for 6 link. you can get that for 20c. Focus on improving the craft itself
polar tundra
Super hyped for this league to be over. is it the 18th yet
sonic canyon
It will end on the 23rd (PDT), the 18th is just the announcement stream for Settlers of Kalguur.
maiden mural
Super hyped for this league to be over. is it the 18th yet
It will be on the 18th
maiden mural
It will end on the 23rd (PDT), the 18th is just the announcement stream for Sett...
1pm PDT
Meaning 11pm for me 😭
tawny pasture
Meaning 11pm for me 😭
waking up with the league announcement is great
maiden mural
waking up with the league announcement is great
But staying up for leaguestart is also great 😭
gloomy thicket
Is there any info about the next league ?
gloomy thicket
Next league is settlers of kalguur?
grizzled moon
yes
gloomy thicket
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3530603
Omg the changes r good
They r actually focusing on comfortable gameplay
Can't wait for the new league to drop
autumn merlin
hey do Blight Scarab of Bounty stack?
devout osprey
from the wording i think not. but im not 100% sure
odd gate
hey do Blight Scarab of Bounty stack?
wiki says 2 can be used
barren crescent
pretty sure 40%
tepid shuttle
curious, as it's a necropolis league mechanic. what are the odds that gravecrafting makes it into later seasons? as some of the seasonal stuff has stayed.
prime tree
it's too strong, i don't see this staying, not even in any sort of modified way later on.
tepid shuttle
sad day. I'm just figuring it out and starting to like it. it's useful esp for attack buidls (LA deadeye comes to mind)
may be difficult to play LA deadeye without it. unless you know exactly what to come out of acts with and start prepping that early.
umbral ruin
whats the minimum map tier for divine orb devoted mods?
loud mural
could i ask when the necropolis league is ending or where could i search for the info i am just a new player trying it out
grizzled moon
10 days, 23rd
loud mural
thx for the info apprieciated
mighty kelp
10 days, 23rd
Is there enough time left for me to get anywhere?
grizzled moon
at this point i wouldnt suggest it for other than practicing
odd gate
Is there enough time left for me to get anywhere?
if you're brand new to poe, i would suggest playing, 10 days is probably enough time for you to get through most/finish the campaign and get the basics down
so you'll be more prepared for league start with everyone
mighty kelp
if you're brand new to poe, i would suggest playing, 10 days is probably enough ...
I’m not brand new. Nee enough that I’ve never finished the campaign. But not brand new. Although that was a while ago. And on a different acc probably. Not sure I’ll play anyway tho since I no longer have access to my console and idk whether steam lets me download things on external ssds. But I’ll check out the pc gameplay ig. From what I remember, since I’ve played the game once before on pc before immediately quitting, the hit boxes are really annoying to click. Although I have no problem with click to move since I’ve played several such games in the past
eternal dew
I’m not brand new. Nee enough that I’ve never finished the campaign. But not *br...
i’d say probably wait until league start. unless you have enough time to no life the game for the next week and a half you aren’t going to get far at all. enjoy the league start hype, take your time, and see if you like it. if you start now you are going to have to start fresh in 10 days
also steam definitely lets you download games on other storage devices
mighty kelp
I have no life
mighty kelp
also steam definitely lets you download games on other storage devices
Not hdds but apparently it’s different for SSDs
grizzled moon
i dont see how it would be
eternal dew
Not hdds but apparently it’s different for SSDs
i reallly don’t think so
most steam users are using a desktop that has more than one storage device and hdd’s aren’t all the uncommon
mighty kelp
i dont see how it would be
So i was told by someone who has experience in the matter. I bought an ssd and if it doesn’t work I’ll just have to return it.
mighty kelp
most steam users are using a desktop that has more than one storage device and h...
Dunno, I tried and it didn’t work so i asked on the steam Reddit and apparently steam doesn’t support it
But my friend then told me he uses an ssd and those work so I’m trying tjat.
eternal dew
I have no life <:kek:1045021806144262244>
i mean you could go for it, campaign is usually around 20 hours for a noob, so like 2 or 3 days if you are playing a lot, and then you could work through maps until league start
if you do that and then play league start you’ll be much faster
odd gate
I’m not brand new. Nee enough that I’ve never finished the campaign. But not *br...
i have all of my games on an external 2tb sata ssd
no problems
just one click to change install location to the external one
mighty kelp
Ok another question perhaps not relevant to the channel but idk where to ask, what coop content is there? If I wanna play with a duo does this game have potential or should I just play this while I’m solo?
odd gate
Ok another question perhaps not relevant to the channel but idk where to ask, wh...
you can play the entire game duo
tawdry plover
You could do everything together if you really wanted to
mossy pond
guys what u think about detonate dead as a starter and currency farmer
tawny pasture
guys what u think about detonate dead as a starter and currency farmer
Wait for patchnote
But its been a meta league starter for years
mossy pond
ooke thx
strong bronze
Can you do armour stacker in the new league?
waxen kindle
Can you do armour stacker in the new league?
We won’t know until patch notes drop
strong bronze
true
barren crescent
Anything stacker is generally something not to be recommended as starter
those builds tend to have abysmally low power floors
summer sundial
This is not true
You can get 1.2k of a stat by throwing on some uniques and getting some stat rolls on gears
And you have a fine build
maiden mural
An exile has fallen into the river in Kalguur
torn niche
You can get 1.2k of a stat by throwing on some uniques and getting some stat rol...
this is more an exception than a rule
generally speaking, stackers double, triple, or quad dip, or more
gusty hedge
necropolis is about to go necro
torn niche
We should have a farewell party
golden urchin
just spent 3 hours farming Merc lab for ice nova of frostbolts. I got like 9 of deep freeze before the first of frostbolts. Pain and suffering
can finally play the build tomorrow 😭
gusty hedge
that's what I've been playing, NGL it has been awesome
when I was a level 3 some random just gave me five Divine and I was able to buy everything
maiden mural
They really be cooking with the QoL updates, let’s hope the league is as good
pastel mauve
Honestly, as long as they dont fuck up the league were gonna get a great league
scenic flax
so, i'm fairly new to the game, its my second season so far, when they say mostly that the mechanic won't go core, does that mean it won't go core now on 3.25 or that it won't go ever
not really sad about the crafting part, but i really enjoyed the allflame/choose your monster/bonus kinda deal
tawny pasture
normaly they mention it if there is a chance to go core later
since they said nothing i wouldnt expect for it to ever come back
golden urchin
They mentioned they're deleting all allflames and coffins, and the Necropolis is being removed
oh i misread your question sorry
yeah what Seuriac said
scenic flax
oh yeah, dw about it!
i was mostly asking like, cause if they just said "for now" it would mean theres a chance for a nice surprise on the league after the boat league
(again, talkin mostly about the allflames here)
golden urchin
they did mention specifically the crafting mechanic won't go core
scenic flax
the random "weapon to chaos" got me rich lol
golden urchin
entirely possible for allflames to come back as something slightly different
scenic flax
i see, ty
what whas the league with a blacksmith/vulcanic style
one where you could add passives to your weapons
i played that one as my first but i can't find it
devout osprey
crucible
scenic flax
thats the one
i remember that on the league we had a build broken that dominated dps-wise, where the totems exploded
golden urchin
yep, was a crucible mod on bows
scenic flax
did this league (necropolis) allowed anything like that?
golden urchin
nah nothing like that
scenic flax
i mostly played this league as a learning how to play the game itself really
golden urchin
this league i think (in my opinion) the most broken thing was the multiple fractured mods on top of influenced items
scenic flax
outside of the wallflames i only used the necropolis twice and it was meh
golden urchin
made crafting some stuff really simple
ah so if you didn't know, using the Necropolis you could get an item, like a bow, with three fractured mods (say all three prefixes as ele damage mods)
crafting the suffixes after would be really easy then
scenic flax
i think i heard about that
golden urchin
ofc the corpses to fracture like that + get the mods werent cheap, but easier to access than essence spamming like before
scenic flax
i tried making one with 1 fracture and it was like
terrible wrong
like it had a 25% chance of doing the right mod
and it had a mod with like 0.1% chance of even showing up, somehow that mod showed up and it was the one that hit fracture
so the weapon was beyond useless
did 2 RF character this league, first one was the tank version (juggernaut i think its called) second one was the chieftain
pretty proud of how much i learned on just 1 month of gameplay
and i can't wait for boat league honestly*
golden urchin
nice, yeah plenty of builds left for you to try
scenic flax
yeah
gonna try to do a very speed league start (and aparently the most solid build there is in this game) and maybe make a boss killer later on the league
golden urchin
I've been playing Sunder Jugg quite a bit in HCSSF, ripped on 3 runs at level 80 ish so far, kind of just hoping melee gets some nice buffs next league because I love being able to leap slam and get everywhere so quickly
scenic flax
oh yeah
golden urchin
if not, I'm probs gonna go a Pathfinder build just to zoom the same way
scenic flax
so, my plan is this
pathfinder into bosskiller in case the league and the patchnotes don't help melee
and in case it help, the dual strike jugg
and later idk, maybe just keep with that
wait, i might be remembering the name wrong
golden urchin
yeah i haven't gotten a chance to try dual strike of ambi yet because I keep dying before I can farm the clusters up lol, still got a week to try it out, just gotta get good at the game. The forced league mechanic definitely isnt helping, and also I kind of like HCSSF personally so that's also not helpful in a way
scenic flax
dual strike of ambidexterirt
golden urchin
yeah thats the one, ambidexterity
golden urchin
same
scenic flax
golden urchin
yeah i watched that
guys a legend fr
All of his videos are top notch
all from just an ai voice
scenic flax
was on this one where he gets a mageblood from cards?
scenic flax
idk if its just luck, if its because he knows the game on a godly leve
level, or a mix of those 2
but yeah, he seems to get everything on his ssf
golden urchin
i think its also playing the game an ungodly amount
still remember the first time i had that put into perspective
5 days into a league I saw a streamer type /kills and i compared theirs to mine
I think it was Ben_
yeah I was nowhere near the amount he killed in 5 days
and i thought i was addicted to this game
scenic flax
i mean, if you live/work on this, or you don't work at all, then yeah, you can do a lot more
golden urchin
not to mention he plays hardcore too, its a lot of game knowledge that plays into it
scenic flax
oh
thats a whole new level
i love how hard you guys can configure your gameplay here
and i don't see a lot of people here or reddit complaining about stuff thats like, hard on ssf or way more punishing than it should be on relentless
you guys just play the game ggg gave to you and have fun with what you have (outside of when league mechanics sucks)
and i love that idea
waaay diff than what i'm accostumed to
golden urchin
Yeah I think its just because the game is really well made. Like yeah some things on SSF are pretty much almost impossible, but its very few things (like forbidden flesh and flame for one, lots of luck needed there). Everything else really is just a matter of playing the game
and if you don't like the grind on that level, you just play with trade on no problem
having multiple options definitely helps
scenic flax
when is the patch notes coming?
so we can know what builds are good and which ones are nerfed that kinda thing
devout osprey
right after the stream on the 18th
livid apex
so long necropolis
tawdry rain
bruh anybody wanna carry me im lookie lazy af
warped trench
tawdry rain
so i should just go back to standard
tawny pasture
or wait for league start next friday ?
tawdry rain
ohh really
high fossil
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tawdry rain
damn i missed an entire league
high fossil
It was an ok one to miss, according to all reports
tawdry rain
ahh
high fossil
Next league reveal stream in about 19 hours
tawdry rain
i better watch it then
maiden mural
ayo we getting wildwoods back?
high fossil
Yes. At an unknown power level, amount of atlas tree support, and rate of occurrence, but yes it'll be there somewhere
maiden mural
13 hours left boys
grizzled moon
your character will go to standard, and you can continue playing there if you dont have the time to commit to a new league
sonic stirrup
I'd start fresh in the new league if I were you
buoyant bough
This season was my second season attempt.
But this next season will be the first time I go into the season from the beginning rather than starting 1/2 to 3/4 through.
So I’m hoping I’ll have enough time to figure out how to complete all the maps for the battlepass.
But I think it also depends on how much fun I’m having with my next build. I tend to get bored by the time I reach maps.
Does anyone have any knowledge of the statistics for how far the average player makes it into a season?
I’ve heard that most players seem to only play for a few weeks and many are satisfied with just beating the campaign, but I don’t know how true that is.
grizzled moon
dont think they've said anything recently, most people probably dont get to maps is a good bet
tender sky
Does anyone have any knowledge of the statistics for how far the average player ...
Me and my friends usually play around a month. We hit lvl 100, do all the challenges of league, beat the bosses, make a mirror and leave. this is usually our cycle for last 3-4 years.
buoyant bough
Me and my friends usually play around a month. We hit lvl 100, do all the challe...
This reaffirms what I’ve heard about those who typically clear all the content. Thanks
tender sky
This reaffirms what I’ve heard about those who typically clear all the content. ...
Yea. we basically do the content actually 🙂
This is an ARPG, not like crafting,surviving, building game. So once you done with the content, the rest is just repeating. If you don't want to level another character, not much to do.
buoyant bough
I probably won’t be able to finish all the maps for battlepass, but I got further this season than on my first season attempt. So maybe I can do it this next season
buoyant bough
This is an ARPG, not like crafting,surviving, building game. So once you done wi...
Yeah that’s fair
tender sky
I probably won’t be able to finish all the maps for battlepass, but I got furthe...
Yea that depends on the person. I takes me around a week to hit lvl 97-98 and finish all the maps and atlas usually.
Other 3weeks about min maxing build and challenges.
buoyant bough
I heard it’s common for people to do a “league start” character where their first character just gets them to endgame to start farming to get items for their second character— and that second character is what they play to push into the high end content. Is that common or accurate?
tender sky
I heard it’s common for people to do a “league start” character where their firs...
I mean there are league starters, yea. But what I usually do is I pick my build I want to play and then I pick the best class for it and then I look for best leveling build for that class.
So I don't have to level another character just respec instead.
buoyant bough
I see. That’s fair
tender sky
most end game builds starts to function with specific items on the build so it is most of the time not possible to start leveling with an end game build.
That is why you start with a leveling build.
buoyant bough
I feel like leveling a new character is easier than respec, since there’s no free reset after completing the campaign and orbs of regret are rare for me
tender sky
Eh at the point where I need to respec, I'd usually have couple hundreds of chaos or regrets.
grizzled moon
at some point in the trade league getting respecs is somewhat trivial
and leaguestarters are usually enough for 95% of the game
tender sky
Yea you get done with the 95% of the league in like 10 days anyways. The other %5 is what takes around extra 3 weeks
buoyant bough
Okay good to know. So if I’m struggling for most, it means my build isn’t great
I think my goal for now is to complete the battlepass for next season. I haven’t even come halfway toward it yet. So it still feels like a big goal for me. I’d also like to purchase it when I can complete it lol
grizzled moon
well, even leaguestarters might be hard for beginners to understand so its usually not that the build is badly made
tender sky
I think my goal for now is to complete the battlepass for next season. I haven’t...
Just go with a detailed league starter build on youtube. And make sure to download PoE build planner
buoyant bough
Just go with a detailed league starter build on youtube. And make sure to downlo...
I've never followed any guides for a game and I'm not going to start now! Haha
Thanks for the suggestion, though.
I'm not taking my progression in PoE too seriously. I'm just exploring it at my own pace while I wait for PoE 2.
tender sky
I've never followed any guides for a game and I'm not going to start now! Haha
...
Yea of course that is your decision. I'd consider it a success if you can finish campaign without following a guide tho 😛
buoyant bough
Yea of course that is your decision. I'd consider it a success if you can finish...
Well I used Cyclone with my first character, and I'm sure I did a lot wrong with making it effective, but Cyclone is probably simple and easy enough to work with, but I just assumed the campaign is not meant to be challenging to beat. I got stuck trying to progress in maps, though.
This league I tried necromancer and I had a lot of fun with it. So far it's been my most fun and best experience with the game. It also seems potentially like the easiest and simplest and probably the best class for a new player, as I just grabbed all the minion skill gems from vendors, including summon raging spirit, and typed "minion" in the skill tree and plotted a route for all of the minion buffing nodes and that was pretty much my build. Nameless Seer gave me a Tabula Rasa, so I was able to buff my minions how I wanted. I made it to Tier 6 maps without much of a struggle, but I ran out of maps so I don't know how far I'm capable of pushing with that character yet, but now the league is ending in a few days so I'm just calling it there.
For my next build I'm going to try Wildstrike and explore how Frenzy/Endurance charges work and see what I can do. I'm not confident in my skill tree route being good, but that's also because I'm not sure what I want yet. But I think my choices seem decent. Hoping to have a tankier character this time around.
tender sky
Well I used Cyclone with my first character, and I'm sure I did a lot wrong with...
I mean following a guide does not mean you blidnly follow it. Check their passive trees, skills they use and then try to understand the mechanic of the build. Make modifications according to your needs and make it perfect for your playstyle.
buoyant bough
I mean following a guide does not mean you blidnly follow it. Check their passiv...
Yeah I know, but half the fun for me in these types of games is coming up with my own builds and arriving at my own conclusions. I only start looking at what other players are doing when I feel like I have a firm grasp of the game and just wanna see what others have come up with that I might have missed. But I'm still in the learning and exploring stage with PoE so I don't wanna lessen that experience for myself.
Yeah I've heard that before. Haha
fleet timber
Catan league let's goooo
coarse bridge
analog compass
where do i talk about necropolis now omg
livid lake
the wind
coarse bridge
I want an ed buff
coarse bridge
):
mighty compass
ED isn't allowed a buff its clear is too good
idk i could never get it to work
coarse bridge
ED hasn’t been good since block was good
gusty sparrow
i miss clearing legions with ED
silver kettle
The league is just called Settlers 
high fossil
but if we call it Kalguur League, we can turn the name into Cowgirl league pretty much immediately
native sonnet
is that the name we're settling on?
regal crown
so we need to wait 1 week to start kalguur ?
odd gate
26th
violet nymph
so we need to wait 1 week to start kalguur ?
Cowgirl
sharp iron
I'ma be honest, I haven't played PoE in about a year (life too busy), so I was confused at the livestream announcement since I was like "I thought that already got announced?" but then I remembered that a teaser/name reveal isn't the same thing as an announcement.
high fossil
they've gotta announce their announcements so that we know when to start getting properly excited, you see
sonic canyon
Technically, the league name was announced, but the league's contents haven't.
sharp iron
The 4 or so teasers after the reveal also confused me. Since we were getting a stream of new reveals (even if it was changes to existing content)
plush coyote
there will be boat pvp i know
fading cedar
When the game plays you
halcyon veldt
i've wanted the ability to send my zombies to clear a map while i idle in hideout for a while
fading cedar
When people said "BOAT" I didn't believe it, for sure I did not expect Farmville/AutoBattler
fading cedar
Way overdue, interesting though that GGG caved in
balmy tiger
Integrated market. Intresting.
vital galleon
they have officially snapped
fading cedar
They were staunchingly adamant on this, citing reasons such as "friction"
olive bay
new hp bar?
halcyon veldt
new hp bar?
yes
violet nymph
Melee totems removed.....uninstall sad
south plume
FINALLY NO MORE DUCKING TOTEMS!!
violet nymph
FINALLY NO MORE DUCKING TOTEMS!!
I was hping for teh removal of ancestor totems, and buffing slam totems/abilities...not a full removal
south plume
Totems were utter dogshit design for melee tho
golden urchin
messaging here cuz #1┃general is going crazy, but is anyone else's game just crashing over and over again after the 3.24.3b patch that just dropped like an hour ago?
outer thunder
literally crying
silver kettle
messaging here cuz <#175005585203396622> is going crazy, but is anyone else's ga...
we're looking into it, apologies for the inconvenience!
golden urchin
np!
south plume
The only thing that worries me is whether the buffs will be enough to replace what we lost with totems
violet nymph
The only thing that worries me is whether the buffs will be enough to replace wh...
Absolutely
Heavy Strike got what, +200% base damage?
limber cloud
I am so happy about the gold for respec, it's going to make the game so much more accessible
solid pebble
On a boat
golden urchin
sounds like more than enough to me, im league starting melee. gotta pob this as soon as pob updates
south plume
Heavy Strike got what, +200% base damage?
Yeah but attack speed is gone
violet nymph
Yeah but attack speed is gone
It's a bossing skill, hit once
south plume
Ok, but this issue still exists for other skills anyway
violet nymph
Ok, but melee doesn't have an attack speed problem
midnight crest
rage hasnt speed in any way is trouble for all which used it nt just berserk
scenic flax
do we have any idea if theres gonna be a build thats gonna dominate this season or only after the patch notes?
violet nymph
Only after patch notes like always
violet nymph
We can speculate all day, but until we get shit in our hands it don't exist
scenic flax
gotcha
i couldn't understand 99% of the content from the stream, so thats why i was asking lol
violet nymph
I haven't seen the stream (I'm on mobile atm)
scenic flax
gotcha
violet nymph
But God damn are the buffs looking nuts
peak hemlock
guys? what did the "gold" on the floor do?
scenic flax
the new ships look amazing, ui looks terrible
scenic flax
guys? what did the "gold" on the floor do?
its a new currency used on the league season mechanic
south plume
Site is dead rofl
violet nymph
GUess i can stick with decoy totem flamewood elementalist ignite. But i REALLY wanted a conc path totem inquisitor this league 😦
peak hemlock
its a new currency used on the league season mechanic
i thought it was auction house :(
scenic flax
GUess i can stick with decoy totem flamewood elementalist ignite. But i REALLY w...
wasn't totem deleted or somenthing
high fossil
guys? what did the "gold" on the floor do?
gold is for hiring workers around kingsmarch, respeccing your passive tree, and gambling for items. so far.
south plume
Now THIS is what I call a good league.... Might delete my standard main and play this shit
scenic flax
gold is for hiring workers around kingsmarch, respeccing your passive tree, and ...
what respeccing the passive tree?
outer thunder
100% more currency drops is nuts
scenic flax
Now THIS is what I call a good league.... Might delete my standard main and play...
why delete the standard one
high fossil
what respeccing the passive tree?
as in refunding nodes
south plume
why delete the standard one
Because I play the same character... And also name
scenic flax
Because I play the same character... And also name
you can use the same name, no?
violet nymph
wasn't totem deleted or somenthing
Yes it was, which is why i am upset
violet nymph
Because I play the same character... And also name
He doesn't know
scenic flax
Yes it was, which is why i am upset
sorry mate
violet nymph
Yes it was, which is why i am upset
The 1 Totem player lmao
south plume
you can use the same name, no?
Pretty sure the names are game wide not league wide
scenic flax
is there any melee build thats ssf friendly or noob friendly?
violet nymph
Someone will probably have a guide out for it
high fossil
is there any melee build thats ssf friendly or noob friendly?
it's all changing. People will put guides together over the next week
scenic flax
i meant like for 3.24
violet nymph
I do hope this league machanic goes to standard, building teh village and trading out for loot looks amazing
high fossil
gladiator bleed looks promising
jade rapids
Wow I am so stoked for this league, love the melee changes. Always felt like melee was a pain in the ass
scenic flax
so i can read about how melee works a bit better
tiny remnant
high fossil
i meant like for 3.24
boneshatter juggernaut, then
violet nymph
The 1 Totem player lmao
Everyone has their favorite things Not everyone like cookie cutter/streamer builds
jade rapids
I already wanted to go boneshatter so now I'm even more excited
scenic flax
boneshatter juggernaut, then
ty
solid pebble
He looks like the trump pokemon
jade rapids
I also wonder if melee staff builds will be a thing with the new crit chance
scenic flax
so we use gold instead of the orb?
ancient zinc
i hate the concept of using gold for respect knowing the price goes up based on your levels 😦
violet nymph
The 1 Totem player lmao
I love teh MTX for conc path, and loved watching the totems zoom around pounding stuff
scenic flax
for the skill tree respec
violet nymph
He looks like the trump pokemon
Mans looks like he just won the election
violet nymph
I love teh MTX for conc path, and loved watching the totems zoom around pounding...
Just play Anime Weapons or some shit
I'm thinking Self-Reflection Energy Blades
south plume
for the skill tree respec
It's an option I'm assuming
scenic flax
huh, stupid question, but does animate weapons actually make a weapon into a npc/follower kinda thing?
ancient zinc
its a summon and yes
indigo lotus
no new transfigured gems? :(
ancient zinc
said weapon is gone tho and said summons are temporary
indigo lotus
lot of skills still missing some
golden urchin
no new transfigured gems? :(
there might be, have to wait for patch notes
ancient zinc
probably going to release them over the next week
violet nymph
huh, stupid question, but does animate weapons actually make a weapon into a npc...
It either:
Makes a melee weapon a minion for a time (base)
Makes a ranged weapon a minion for a time (ranged)
Makes a copy of your main hand melee weapon a minion for a time (self-reflect)
scenic flax
ty ty
scenic flax
It either:
Makes a melee weapon a minion for a time (base)
Makes a ranged weap...
but you can see the weapon like, "fighting"?
ancient zinc
yes
violet nymph
but you can see the weapon like, "fighting"?
Yeah it's a minion
scenic flax
LOL
ancient zinc
its basically an invisible player holding a weapon
violet nymph
You summon a shit ton of them
scenic flax
i wanna try that wtf, that sounds like so much fun
ancient zinc
its.. not.. its one of the most annoying summon to summon because of its clunkiness, very strong but you will be RIP if you die in a boss room
indigo lotus
you give a sword on the ground life and it gets mad and hits things
scenic flax
man, melee builds looks so fun, ambidextry, boneshatter, juggernaut
scenic flax
oh, not saying its strong or anything, but it does look fun
ancient zinc
im telling you right now its not, try out SRS first
ancient zinc
it takes a hot minute or two to summon everything and every 30 seconds or so you gotta roughly do it again, and they are squishy
sweet canyon
well, what a great league to come
ancient zinc
summon raging skull
violet nymph
srs is which one sorry?
Summon Raging Spirits
lucid stone
Anyone have a screenshot of the Warden passives?
scenic flax
so, i'm on twitch and i got a corsair somenthing
ancient zinc
r/pathofexilebuilds subreddit is perfect for you to try out if you are new not to be confused with the youtube channel(whch is garbage)
scenic flax
what is that item/cosmetic?
nvm just found out... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3531244
its a cape, and a lovely one that i will use 100%
austere whale
So is there a delay on the currency market? It wasnt clear
lucid stone
Looks like the grand exchange from runescape
sick meadow
10/10 league, they heard our suggestions
ancient zinc
china PoE has this already except without the gold stuff i think
about time.... there are so many price fixers in poe trade for currency, there will still be price fixing but atleast if you want to buy something you get it right away
bronze goblet
no need to dm 30 ppl?
Im in
austere whale
Im not sold on the league mechanic.
Those timed errands sound very mobile game fomo exploity
bronze goblet
and like, they really did it, they put everything in that, not just basic currency
ancient zinc
timed errands probably exist to help slow down the league from dying so fast
bronze goblet
Im not sold on the league mechanic.
Those timed errands sound very mobile game ...
they explicitly said its a huge experiment league
so I can live with that
austere whale
they explicitly said its a huge experiment league
I know, that doesnt mean I cant voice concerns :p
viral cove
Anyone has screenshots of the new uniques?
sick meadow
Im not sold on the league mechanic.
Those timed errands sound very mobile game ...
league mechanic doesnt really matter. I almost always skip the league mechanics entirely and it's still fun
ancient zinc
i fully expect some deterministically long achievement related to waiting for boats
odd gate
Im not sold on the league mechanic.
Those timed errands sound very mobile game ...
i think it's a good way to encourage retention
and for people to make progress even when not being able to no life
ancient zinc
you will still have to no life fyi... now its a daily chore!
bronze goblet
I know, that doesnt mean I cant voice concerns :p
I get it!
earnest marten
patch notes after this or?
unreal surge
Isnt every league a experiment? Well hope this one is not a fail like the recent ones
jade rapids
I mean passive POE income sounds fun
austere whale
i think it's a good way to encourage retention
and for people to make progress e...
I feel the opppsite.
"Oh Im not online, when I could be sending missions, fomo :("
ancient zinc
Isnt every league a experiment? Well hope this one is not a fail like the recent...
i would argue the past league and this one is even more experimental with very big changes probably due to more employees working back at poe1
jade rapids
I think if the rewards are tuned right, you won't need to put in a lot of effort to get reward
silver kettle
patch notes after this or?
once the Q&A ends yes
jade rapids
The "cost" is time
Although it's kinda dumb your trade route could fail or something
ancient zinc
i would be very interesting how bots will affect the currency trade shop, as I've seen in GW2
earnest marten
once the Q&A ends yes
thank u sir! Keep up the work guys!
west mango
so i'm certainly going absolutely feral over this
tranquil star
Ports from rs3 was unrionically the worst gaming experience I've had in any game - daily timegated RNG content is just not it. At least this seems to have a chance to recover "failed" missions and probably doesn't have daily restrictions, but the gameplay of "wait for 4 hours to see if you succeeded or not" is awful.
ancient zinc
gold would be trival for bots imo
violet sequoia
You cant trade gold yeah?
ancient zinc
even more so if gold is tradeable
gusty sparrow
yes
ancient zinc
i dunno if gold is tradable i sure hope not but... yeah
violet sequoia
I hope it isnt as well
silver kettle
gold is not tradable
jade rapids
The quality changes are crazy
ancient zinc
if not, respecting is going to be a pain in the ass
earnest marten
yes
fading cedar
if not, respecting is going to be a pain in the ass
Orbs of Regret are still in the game
ancient zinc
Orbs of Regret are still in the game
oh good
violet sequoia
Same this league is abt to be legendary 4 leagues of content in one
ancient zinc
but then again poe 1 got rid of daily missions in the past because it was an annoyance...
fading cedar
Despite the changes being a net positive for the game, I am concerned. Historically the good leagues were the ones that actually enhanced your normal PoE experience, rather than dragging you into a different game
sick meadow
it's optional tho
fading cedar
PALWORLD league, LOL
wraith saffron
the only thing i"m afraid is the powerlevel achievable from player, and no endgame improvement, making endgame reachable for everyone
ancient zinc
all league mechanics are optional what isn't is the challenges X(
mighty musk
PALWORLD league, LOL
Why do people keep saying this?
sick meadow
qol changes and changes to the core game are more important than the league mechanic imo
fading cedar
Why do people keep saying this?
Mark just said it
tranquil star
It's nice for those people for sure, and the rest of the changes look great, but centering a league in a game like POE around waiting for stuff to finish seems like a really bad choice.
ancient zinc
Why do people keep saying this?
you got slaves
mighty musk
Mark just said it
No way. Lmfao on flight so can’t watch live. Only caught the beginning 😭
tranquil star
There might just be enough other stuff to play that it doesn't end up mattering, but if there was no other stuff and the league boiled down to "regular game and every 6 hours you click a button to get loot" I think most people would not like that
jade rapids
Idk more loot means more progression
south plume
did we get a launch date? dont think i have seen it
jade rapids
The townies also have lots of crafting .launch is the 26th
south plume
damn a bit over a week
jade rapids
Patch notes always get released a week before league
ancient zinc
its next week
jade rapids
No mans sky works off this passive play idea a lot
Lots of little mechanics that are time gated. It is annoying when you run out of time gates to start though.
With the way the bosses work you'll have to fight them to get your town back or whatever
Even without the league mechanic though the melee changes are huge
rocky forge
They are going to remove melee totems from the game, what is going to happen to my tentacle ancestor totem skin?
jade rapids
And the currency trading
silver kettle
They are going to remove melee totems from the game, what is going to happen to ...
it will be refunded
south plume
did we get patch notes yet?
silver kettle
did we get patch notes yet?
not just yet, once this Q&A is over
south plume
RAAAAGH
urban sphinx
holy moly, league looks insane!
rocky forge
it will be refunded
they could make it apply to spell totems, the skin was nice
south plume
it will be refunded
wait, werent there ancestor totem skins in support packs iirc?
silver cave
long shot, but isnt this league basically tribal wars? https://www.tribalwars.net/
urban sphinx
can you drop us a hint before we see patch notes, how much was cyclone dmg increased? 😄 from 33% to maybe.. 330%? 😄
sick meadow
thats a weird choice tbh, melee totems could stay and they could remove the buffs from them
south plume
can you drop us a hint before we see patch notes, how much was cyclone dmg incre...
after q/a
upper dragon
about the respecing, since they didn't say the orbs of regret are gone i assume at least for now, the paying gold is just another option with the league mechanic specifically through the npc
urban sphinx
shit, gotta finish ER: SOTE before next week
south plume
about the respecing, since they didn't say the orbs of regret are gone i assume ...
another option for sure
smoky geyser
whats that thing?
obsidian swift
whats that thing?
Creeper
void badge
sextoy
sick meadow
whats that thing?
shrek's penis
devout osprey
thats viper
upper dragon
other than in general i am not a fan of entire options being removed like melee totems or raider(though i can understand balance wise) , i'm pretty hyped for this league.
sick meadow
raider didnt have anything specific going for it
there was nothing that made raider unique except frenzy stacking
smoky geyser
other than in general i am not a fan of entire options being removed like melee ...
melee totems and rage was a secret damage button nessicary for any melee build, so its more making the damage upfront instead of baked into 3 random skill gems that are more damage buttons the average player wouldnt think about
sick meadow
melee totems should have stayed, with the buffs taken away from them and a debuff being added that would make the player deal substantially less damage with their own attacks while they're active
smoky geyser
fair?
upper dragon
oh definitely, i'm not even a fan of totems, i've never gotten into the playstyle, closest i've gotten was a couple times i've tried some bow totem stuff but even that didn't feel great to for me (though my build probably just sucked)
south plume
no attack speed from rage or totems needs a different source now imo
magic hound
so... which melee build for league starter xD
fading cedar
I'm skeptical of melee, at least until I see the patch notes
abstract spoke
Lightning strike Warden obv
fading cedar
Damage numbers were never the issue, I think the main downside of melee, aside being in the enemy's face when other builds can offscreen, is the clear speed
violet nymph
I mean if you boss you don't particularly care about clear speed
south plume
im going either dual wield BS or Heavy Strike
sick meadow
warden ascendancies looked insane tbh
tired phoenix
Does this mean we can trade essence now?
zenith flame
they basically said anything thats stackable is tradable, so essence should be as well
austere whale
Better yet trade scarabs
fading cedar
Does anyone have any idea on how they dropped the ball on the auction house and caved in after basically a decade?
zenith flame
they probably had more pressure after last epoch did it successfully
sudden harness
they probably had more pressure after last epoch did it successfully
last epochs trade system is horrid
sudden harness
Does anyone have any idea on how they dropped the ball on the auction house and ...
Chris moved onto poe2 so now fun isnt held hostage
sacred glade
Is gold shared between characters? It was shown as a value above the character inventory, not taking any slots, not sure how I can stash it, since the stash has mostly slots, got me worried for hardcore.
thin otter
Has Earthbreaker Support been removed as well?
sick meadow
most likely yes
abstract spoke
are patch notes out?
high fossil
see patch notes for the *
well we'd LIKE TO
waxen kindle
are patch notes out?
not yet
high fossil
are patch notes out?
nope, still waiting for the q&a to finish
waxen kindle
viper is just edging us rn
opal bone
did Mark say 100,000 unique items per map last league or ONE THOUSAND?
agile hemlock
100k
opal bone
that's so nuts
dreamy raven
So we get to see challenges in few days i guess
unreal beacon
Stalling as ever
Give patch notes already!
opal bone
Man, if they moved harvest into maps and got rid of the garden, this patch would be nearly perfect
upper dragon
still over a week till its live, i'm in no rush to read. nap time
nimble venture
hold your horse did I hear that right? they adding actual market to the game?
west loom
hold your horse did I hear that right? they adding actual market to the game?
Yes, only for currency items though
ancient zinc
where's the patch notes 😦
nimble venture
whew thats a start thought I was thinking I'd have to wait for poe2 lmao THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE
high fossil
where's the patch notes 😦
after the stream ends
ancient zinc
ugh
vagrant coral
I’m so damn stoked for this league! So many new things to explore and learn.
ancient zinc
ill be sticking to old reliable builds as always
nimble venture
inb4 they nuke ur build
sick meadow
unbound avatar wouldnt work with proxy units, right?
ancient zinc
i play the clunky AW i dont think they will nerf it anytime soon
tired phoenix
Wait so is chris good or bad
ancient zinc
what sort of question is that?
tired phoenix
Is he the one holdin back AH for 10 yrs bc supposedly he on poe2 now AH gets releaed
hot quail
warden ascendancies looked insane tbh
For sure.
odd gate
Is he the one holdin back AH for 10 yrs bc supposedly he on poe2 now AH gets rel...
neither, the development of poe2 and testing it is what encouraged backporting currency ah
ancient zinc
yeah i find it odd that they were saying they didn't want auction because of x reason to suddenly do a 180 and say they want AH because they feel what the players felt even though they already knew what the player felt
vagrant coral
I’m also glad to see that the Wisps are staying, I really liked that mechanic
ancient zinc
i hope back to basics will block wisps
high fossil
yeah i find it odd that they were saying they didn't want auction because of x r...
they didn't want a bad solution, because that would make the problems worse. They waited til they felt they had a good solution, and also the problem has been getting worse and increasing the need over time
buoyant bough
Wait so is chris good or bad
Chris is the Great Egg. We believe he's benevolent, but you never know! Better not test him!
smoky geyser
LETS GOOOO
tired phoenix
POE CN had full blown AH for items too right?
ancient zinc
no dont think so
odd gate
i hope back to basics will block wisps
back to basics is gone im pretty sure
ancient zinc
i hope not i liked it
high fossil
b2b is gone
high fossil
NOOOOOOO why 😦
wait, were you kidding about "they won't nerf warchief" earlier?
ancient zinc
umm what?
high fossil
melee totems have been removed
ancient zinc
i said AW aka animate weapon
ancient zinc
dont think meele totems were considered clunky
sonic stirrup
dont think meele totems were considered clunky
Is this sarcasm
ancient zinc
nope they're like totem builds in general yeah?
golden urchin
not at all
sonic stirrup
Not at all
ancient zinc
i saw some big fat and juicy aoe dmg from some youtube videos
sonic stirrup
Melee totems refers to the two totems that granted more dps while near them to melee dps
golden urchin
they take up sockets that you really want for other stuff, and all you do is place them down just for them to buff you, its really annoying
smoky geyser
nope they're like totem builds in general yeah?
it was 2 "more damage" buttons that the game has been balanced around
abstract spoke
But the slam totem is gone too no?
ancient zinc
then what was the meele totem builds that use it as a primary dmg source?
golden urchin
especially with new call to arms, its very annoying
abstract spoke
rip consecrated path totems loved that build
sonic stirrup
then what was the meele totem builds that use it as a primary dmg source?
Not on the topic
sonic stirrup
rip consecrated path totems loved that build
Why rip?
ancient zinc
do those still exist or no?
abstract spoke
I assume the skill is removed
sonic stirrup
It's just the buff totems that are gone, or maybe just the buffs are gone
abstract spoke
Also the dps relied a lot on the other totems :p
ancient zinc
actually i think they might be removed because meele skills got buffed up the wazoo..
golden urchin
yeah they either redid the ancestral totems or removed them I'm guessing
abstract spoke
They just said in live they are completely removed
sonic stirrup
Also the dps relied a lot on the other totems :p
Wait for patch notes to judge buffs or Nerfs. You don't have the whole picture
A LOT of melee skills got extreme dps buffs, up to 100%
ancient zinc
shockwave support or w.e that meele autobomber build i wonder if that got boosted
abstract spoke
True but the earthbreaker support is almost guaranteed removed
sonic stirrup
They just said in live they are completely removed
I will admit I wasn't listening super closely since I was reading here, but I think they just said the buff totems are gone
smoky geyser
wait so a lvl 1 gem only needs 1 gcp?
sonic stirrup
wait so a lvl 1 gem only needs 1 gcp?
I don't think they said that?
abstract spoke
and looking at wording on earthbreaker support it is considered an ancestral totem so 99% chance gone
sonic stirrup
Or am I that far behind
smoky geyser
they didnt explicitly cover gcp or baubles to mu knowlege
abstract spoke
I think they are unchanged then
sick meadow
I'm cooking a half fire half lightning explosive trap warden, help me cook
ancient zinc
I'm going to miss the graveyard league support spectres i dont think they're transfering over
no more warcaller X(, unless they spawned outside of ember
sonic stirrup
I'm cooking a half fire half lightning explosive trap warden, help me cook
Patch notes are literally so soon. Wait
smoky geyser
"lets go gambling!"
ancient zinc
soon(tm)
abstract spoke
tbh this is worst q&a they've ever had
ancient zinc
i would like the patch notes to be released before the Q&A section started
abstract spoke
Normally I enjoy the Live ziggy questions, but this is just a rehash of the reveal to me
and recap of last league
ancient zinc
shame they aren't using youtube for livestreams twitch don't let you watch at your own pace..., or backtrack
smoky geyser
helmet bro!
sonic stirrup
shame they aren't using youtube for livestreams twitch don't let you watch at yo...
Yeah, though they do reupload it to YouTube afterwards
tired phoenix
How does poe proposed currency market compare to LE if anyones played LE
smoky geyser
yeah i gota make a couple clips on youtube
like "palworld league"
sonic stirrup
PATCH NOTES
native sonnet
hmm, how would take all works with the shipping rewards, up to max inventory or str8 to stash 
ancient zinc
its a player driven AH with non-tradable gold currency to control trade selling spam
basically any other game that does marketboard with fees except said fee isn't tradable
abstract spoke
dawnstrider is only earthbreaker unique now
tired phoenix
Think it was straight to stash since AH can go to stash
ancient zinc
oh thats lame the block-based retaliate skill isn't triggerable
you'd think a counter skill would be allowed to 'retaliate' right away
sick meadow
earthbreaker support still exists on dawnstrider
oh they did exactly what I suggested, the boots also has ancestral bond
its only a 5L though... should have been level 35 earthbreaker or sth
abstract spoke
Not a terrible thing but they should have thrown 50 str on it
mighty compass
new league looks like ass imo
terse atlas
for me im gonna have to play it
ancient zinc
hot take until you actually play it
abstract spoke
I think its going to be different than the last few so a nice change
terse atlas
it looks like alot of cool content
ancient zinc
personally i want to try out retaliate but i dont want to slow down early progression for experimentation..
manic obsidian
melee league let's go
mighty compass
didnt say it is.. just said it looks like it.. im not wantin to play a city builder 😛
terse atlas
fair enough
ancient zinc
they haven't reveal league rewards have they
"Scarabs, Chisels and Horizon Orbs now follow the same drop rules as Maps, as they are consumed proportionally to Endgame Maps. They do not drop more with additional party members present, nor do they scale with bonuses to Item Quantity on the player (not that you can get it anymore outside of Standard Leagues). The intention is to keep the number of these items dropping always proportional to the number of Map items dropping." oh no
terse atlas
why oh no
ancient zinc
mm wait so map modifiers should still boost scarab drops right?
short blade
Corpses spawned by the Desecrate and Corpse Walk skills now have a flat 15% chance to match your spectres, rather than a 15% chance on top of being added to the main pool of corpse varieties that can be picked from. These Spectral Corpses are now unusable for most purposes, and can only be used by Minion Skills such as Raise Spectre or Bone Offering.
So if I am reading this right, Detonate Dead no longer uses spectre corpses?
sick meadow
Corpses spawned by the Desecrate and Corpse Walk skills now have a flat 15% chance to match your spectres, rather than a 15% chance on top of being added to the main pool of corpse varieties that can be picked from.
dd is kill
at least the hit versions
terse atlas
"club penguin is kill"
ancient zinc
they just made the transcient spectral gem even more annoying to use with these changes .-.
sick meadow
The Elemental Hit Skill Gem now requires a Melee Weapon
but why
thick stratus
The Divine Blessing Support has been removed, and existing versions of this item will be deleted upon logging in after the launch of 3.25.0
terse atlas
Lightning Arrow: No longer has Added Lightning Damage at all gem levels. It now has 149% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 130%), scaling up to 177% at gem level 20 (previously 154%). Now has a Mana cost of 6 at gem level 1 (previously 7), scaling up to 10 at gem level 20 (previously 11). W or L?
golden urchin
what does "retaliate against a blocked hit" mean? do you have to stack block chance to use the skill?
sick meadow
what does "retaliate against a blocked hit" mean? do you have to stack block cha...
you have to block to be able to use it
golden urchin
ok ty
thick stratus
divine blessing is truly killed
ancient zinc
aw man it looks like they nerfed map scarab.... but now allowed all mobs and league mobs to... drop maps? they removed t16 map scarab too
sick meadow
battlemages cry builds are also kill
Doryani's Touch, granted by the Doryani's Fist Unique Gloves: Now has a Mana cost of 14 at level 20 (previously 8). It also now has 1000% Effectiveness of Added Damage (previously 600%).
hold up
manic obsidian
well i need to do a scion run and since it's melee league, can you guys suggest anything that isn't armor stacking?
sick meadow
this is nothing compared to other melee buffs
manic obsidian
i might do uhhhhh berserker and assassin
terse atlas
poision conc got buff XD
Poisonous Concoction: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1 (previously 7), scaling up to 9 at gem level 20 (unchanged). Now has 30 to 44 Added Chaos Damage at gem level 1 (previously 26 to 39), with values of 716 to 1073 at gem level 20 (previously 622 to 933).
ancient zinc
this feels kinda lame for 1 extra atlas slot a whole bunch of scarabs got a big fat nerf
sick meadow
frost blades is huge ngl
thick stratus
buncha early game spell scaling nerf
terse atlas
The small Juggernaut Ascendancy Passive that provided 6% increased Attack Speed now provide 5%.
but why
ancient zinc
danmit they really did remove back to basics... my favorite atlas passive for alc n go
sick meadow
molten strike is nerfed
manic obsidian
The small Juggernaut Ascendancy Passive that provided 6% increased Attack Speed ...
did he get more accuracy
terse atlas
not that i see
thick stratus
phys spell buffs?
Hatred: No longer has causes you and nearby allies to deal more Cold Damage. You and nearby allies now gain 30% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage at gem level 1 (previously 16%), scaling up to 39% at gem level 20 (previously 25%).
Herald of Ash: Buff no longer grants more Spell Fire Damage. The buff now grants 15% of your Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage at gem level 1, scaling up to 20% at gem level 20 (previously 15% at all gem levels).
terse atlas
The Adorned Unique Jewel now has 0-100% increased Effect of Jewel Socket Passive Skills containing Corrupted Magic Jewels (previously 50-150%).
nerfed
sick meadow
imagine rolling 0
terse atlas
most valuable one
look how they butchered ma boy Grace: Now provides "You and nearby Allies gain 40% more Evasion Rating" at gem level 1 (previously 55%), scaling up to 59% at gem level 20 (previously 74%).
sick meadow
they just deleted the chieftain ascendancy and didnt even put something there to replace it
nimble venture
they just deleted the chieftain ascendancy and didnt even put something there to...
damn all the 2 chieftain mains are gonna be really upset
sick meadow
and they completely butchered champion
primal adder
Archmage nerf or no?
thick stratus
look how they butchered ma boy Grace: Now provides "You and nearby Allies gain 4...
aint that ruthless only
terse atlas
dont think so
violet nymph
They've murdered warcries and berserker
thick stratus
boi
terse atlas
yea i just checked big dumb lol
primal adder
So ice nova of frost bolts is still on the table
silver kettle
this one isn't ruthless-specific though
violet nymph
Battlemage's cry is just pre curse change assassin's mark now, with more hurdles
terse atlas
this one isn't ruthless-specific though
so they did butcher ma boy
sick meadow
The Lycosidae Unique Shield now Adds 250 to 300 Cold Damage to Retaliation Skills
login
violet nymph
and enduring cry is 10% health regen
thick stratus
1000 armor/eva flat losses for both of em still good if u stack them tho
terse atlas
yea + u get more on armour now
Flicker Strike: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1, scaling up to 8 at gem level 20 (previously 10 at all gem levels). Now has 177% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 142%), scaling up to 408% at gem level 20 (previously 210%). flicker fans rn
sick meadow
frost blades will be the goat
terse atlas
whats the buff?
manic obsidian
holy shit flicker strike
sick meadow
490% from 225%, but they removed the added cold
manic obsidian
cyclone might be back bois
violet nymph
This must be a mistake, it triggers warcries but they have no effect on you or allies... so what's the point in using it
sick meadow
then whats the point
violet nymph
triggering warcries that don't grant buffs to you?
silver kettle
exerting attacks is the point
sick meadow
wait we can play elemental double strike now, the bleed thing is gone
violet nymph
exerting attacks is the point
So they killed warcry buffing to make exerts a thing when literally nobody gives two shits about exerts...
terse atlas
violet nymph
except for the 4 people playing a build that attacks slow enough to care about it
manic obsidian
smite seems tempting too, shit
sick meadow
409% double strike is insane
terse atlas
good skill got better?!!? Splitting Steel: No longer has Added Attack Physical Damage at all gem levels. It now has 120% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 70%), scaling up to 330% at gem level 20 (previously 210%). Now has a Mana cost of 6 at gem level 1 (previously 5), scaling up to 11 at gem level 20 (previously 8).
maybe?
Venom Gyre: Now has a Mana cost of 5 at gem level 1 (unchanged) thank you GGG, very cool
umbral hemlock
What do you think about glacial hammer buffs? Might be worth this league with glad?
sick meadow
vaal double strike warden with anarchic spiritblade, I found my starter
terse atlas
Shockwave: Now has 230% Effectiveness of Base and Added Damage at gem level 1 (previously 160%), scaling up to 336% at gem level 20 (previously 260%). shockwave buff, cyclone back?
sick meadow
Dual Wielding now inherently grants +20% chance to Block Attack Damage and 10% more Attack Speed (previously +15%).
wait this nerf is cringe
for dw?
violet nymph
Dual Wielding now inherently grants +20% chance to Block Attack Damage and 10% m...
was previously 15% to both, they're trying to slow the game down and get rid of PoE zoom so people don't get to the slow crawl fest that is PoE 2 and be like "we want our zoom back"
terse atlas
im still gonna want the zoom back
sick meadow
its more like they kinda killed dual wielding because glad has a node that doubles inherent dw bonuses
if the inherent bonus was too good, glad would be too strong
uneven prairie
guess we cant play league anymore 😦
violet nymph
Earthbreaker, granted by the Dawnstrider Unique Boots: Supported Skills now deal 0% less Damage at gem level 1 (previously 19%), scaling up to 19% more Damage at gem level 20 (previously 0% less Damage). No longer provides 10-19% increased Area of Effect with Melee Skills while the Totem is active.
silver kettle
guess we cant play league anymore 😦
we're urgently looking into this, apologies for the inconvenience!
violet nymph
Will be limited to a 5 link since boots...BUT DANG!
sick meadow
idk man this is kinda dumb, dw is still not worth it unless you're gladiator
violet nymph
Gen cry got damage nerfed again
100% more damage node on glad is cringe, it's a bossing node and people who are bossing aren't gonna spend 100 seconds fighting an uber
sick meadow
wonder if you can stack that during grace period
probably not, but you know... might be some spaghetti there
terse atlas
people on forums saying this is gonna be best league ever 
violet nymph
I was so bummed out i thought melee totems were totally gone...but nope! conc path totems and volcanic fissue of snaking are back on the menu!
terse atlas
swear people said that last league XD
sick meadow
yep dawnstrider still has it, but I wish the item was slightly better
stone sage
Firestorm of Pelting: Now has 95% Effectiveness of Added Damage at gem level 1, scaling up to 370% at gem level 20 (previously 120% at all gem levels).
Is this a mistake?
violet nymph
They've shaved 300% attack damage, 75% inc attack speed and all the movement speed off of Berserker for maybe 60-75% more damage. It'll hit harder but the zoom is killed...
sick meadow
`Firestorm of Pelting: Now has 95% Effectiveness of Added Damage at gem level 1,...
I think that's a typo
370% is insane for pelting
stone sage
yeah
sick meadow
it's still 120% I'd say
stone sage
yeah probably
thick stratus
excited to play melee but t17 exists
sick meadow
nothing can stop me from playing vaal double strike warden
violet nymph
"previously 50% less minimum attack damage with critical strikes"... what were GGG smoking when they wrote these patch notes
silver kettle
"previously 50% less minimum attack damage with critical strikes"... what were G...
those are the ruthless-specific changes
many ascendancies look quite different in ruthless
violet nymph
those are the ruthless-specific changes
ohhhhhhhh my bad