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[next scarab]

Tldr hot garbage

[slim hawk]

reddit overreacts

alkaizer snepai put it well i think, its not affliction, but its above average

[next scarab]

No its not

Make it optional and maybe then its average

[vagrant token]

Its my second league and tbh at tier 16 maps with league spec I stll not find league mechanic hard. I get more death by map mods or staking remnants then necro mobs.

Two of my issues was addressed with first patch (price of coffins and manual coffining of corpses)

And seems like Im only person who like to swap mods and use pokebols xD

[next scarab]

You really feel it in hardcore

When u r just chilling in a normal map then a haunted monster appears and boss music plays for no reason

[vagrant token]

Trust me, I would not notice difference ^.^"""

[next scarab]

They are way stronger than anything else in the map

[slim hawk]

i rolled a necro mod on a mob that was 25% reflected magic damage

like how is that combated

[sonic stirrup]

That was removed wasn't it

[vagrant token]

Map skip? 100%+ reflection resist? 🤔

I mean... Its not something like -20% max res

[cold mulch]

how do i search for this stat on flasks on the trade website?

[tawny pasture]

Oh a redditor

[next scarab]

Oh a dude with no valid argument or any positive contribution to the conversation

I get that this is the official server and u have to boot lick but come on

[tawny pasture]

What are yours ? You only complain

You just joined the discord to complain

[next scarab]

This

[tawny pasture]

But its aint true

[next scarab]

Why is this content harder than anything else in my maps and why is it mandatory

[tawny pasture]

Its aint an officiel discord either

[next scarab]

Lmao sure bud

[tawny pasture]

Cuz that how league work

[next scarab]

Alrright good talk u clearly dont know what u r talking about

[tawny pasture]

Not the first time you are forced to hard content from league while mapping

There is always standard

[next scarab]

Accept that this league is trash and move on u dont have to live in delusions

[tawny pasture]

Accept that you are a cry baby and not everyone think the same

[next scarab]

Mby u will stop calling ppl with actual valid arguments redditors

The laziest insult you can imagine

[tawny pasture]

Cuz its true

[next scarab]

What a joke

Keep bootlicking

[tawny pasture]

You join discord just to complain like people on reddit

[next scarab]

I joined here to ask questions about hardcore

You have no idea who and what im doing

[neat rover]

okay anyone got info on corpse category?? does it matter what kinda monster it is ?

it yelds different results ?

[sonic stirrup]

Corpse category matters only when you have other corpses that mention it

[neat rover]

okay cool

[vagrant token]

That moment when possessed, extra crit extra speed 4-5item 4ppl betrayal drop on your head with 8% chance

[tawny pasture]

Betrayal was rough as hell when it started yeah

[vagrant token]

I feelt like Bug during helldiver drop on easy mode

No. Im not about betrayal league, im about betrayal extra content xD

I'm at 90% mastermind intel and my intervention team are quite scary xD

[swift field]

so we can craft 6 fractured t1 items with necro crafting

WTF

[simple bison]

anyone know what the best lantern mod to use with the currency allflame ember is?

[proven spire]

is there a place to buy killing a story boss, I have 5c i can spend

[tawdry plover]

Could try asking global 820 maybe

[pale hemlock]

Global 820 is the meme channel

Trade 820 is the selling carries

[tawdry plover]

My bad

[neat rover]

round two of trying to craft rf gloves xdd

if this fails im done

OKAY

this works

i wanted dex, but i didnt get chaos res or life reg rate

gonna finish crafting this badboy

and post end process

we gaming

wait i cant use essence of greed on gloves xdd

LMAO

i guess i am forced to do fossils

[sonic stirrup]

You can

...

You do realise you have Fractured Life there already right

And the mod group of that life is well, the same as the life you get from greed...

Fossils also obviously can't roll flat regular life

[sonic stirrup]

Did you read the message

[neat rover]

i am pepeg?

[sonic stirrup]

Greed works fine on gloves in general

But you already fractured flat life

So you obviously can't force flat life

[neat rover]

how do i get life regen rate then

[sonic stirrup]

You can use for example Envy for Chaos res if you want to use essence

[neat rover]

these are 9 a pop

[sonic stirrup]

If you think you it'd be cheaper with fossils, go for it

[sonic stirrup]

No essence forces life regeneration rate on any item

[neat rover]

yeah you're ring

im kinda fucked

i have to roll envy until i get t1 regen

because i need chaos res too

[sonic stirrup]

lol

Yeah

[neat rover]

pray for me please

[sonic stirrup]

You did get two good fractures at least earlier

Could've fractured the increased armour if you were unlucky

[neat rover]

i wanted to get lfie regen rate or chaos fractured but i guess this works too...

okay i have few divines to waste

omg

t2

in 20 rolls

i cant i need t1

t2 again

-8 divines

2 times t2

oh my godness

I CANT EVEN ROLL t1

!!!!!!!!!!!1

my gloves are not 85 ilvl

OMG

this is major fuck up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/954958704283885608.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

end of league for me im done

i lose 100 life regen that is a lot.

with t2

[manic obsidian]

holy shit headhunter is cheap

[feral sleet]

haha so funny maven in t17 just spams heal non stop on boss gets thats another mod i have to skip

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[sonic stirrup]

Or get some anti regen via pantheon / recovery mastery / frost bomb. Preferably 2.

[agile ridge]

can anyone tell me if Combat Focus jewel works with Taste of Hate on Elemental Hit of the Spectrum or is the cold damage on taste of hate just lost?

[tawdry plover]

Are u converting the cold damage to other types in some way

It's not even a prismatic skill

The jewel doesn't do anything

[agile ridge]

hmm

this is from Snoobaes build

https://pobb.in/T6EkZ6vxrvJQ

[tawdry plover]

I'm not sure what that jewel is there for, or whether it was a misclick

Maybe he used it from before he had the Trans gem?

But honestly does that jewel socket even have 40 str in radius?

[agile ridge]

its got 40 int

i was wondering about that wording as well

where it was str AND int

[tawdry plover]

Maybe it works with both tbh, I haven't used those in years

[agile ridge]

or if it was just str and int combined

[tawdry plover]

Yea ok it works with 40 combined, but that's for normal ele hit not the spectrum version

[agile ridge]

interesting

yeah right it doesnt have the prismatic tag

[tawdry plover]

Yep

It doesn't choose elements at all, it always deals 3

[agile ridge]

yer

I think he might have missed updating that

might find a different LA/Elemental Hit build to follow, I got crazy lucky and dropped an early headhunter, never played LA before

[tawdry plover]

That's awesome GZ dude!!

[agile ridge]

using the abyss strat its pretty crazy getting ramped to like 30 HH buffs

[tawdry plover]

Never saw that before, I was always a legion enjoyer

[cunning crypt]

how do i remove a buried corpse without deleting it ?

[soft grove]

What’s the meta atlas’s tree rn ?

I try yawing delirium one but haven’t been lucky only 1 divine anyone can recommend me a better one with hopefully better drop rates for better things

[lusty helm]

That's the fun part, you don't

[cunning crypt]

damn

unique monster bro just stuck in the graveyard untill i find the rest of his family, sad

[lusty helm]

Rip

[cunning crypt]

rip

[tawdry plover]

If it's a common one u may already have dupes

[lusty helm]

If it's any consolation I think the unique are kinda shit anyway

[cunning crypt]

yes probably

the perandus one is cool af

[tawdry plover]

Yea was gonna say that one has some value

[lusty helm]

Hmmm I don't remember what that one is

[cunning crypt]

unrelated but is it worth it to spend like 4 to 6c on mapping gear for getting started ?

[tawdry plover]

For sure

[cunning crypt]

dropped a divine and now i can just do that

but it's still kind of expensive to do

[tawdry plover]

The better ur char can Map the sooner u can make ur currency back

[cunning crypt]

true true

also i found a random mapping tree i think it was from maxroll should i just run that ?

since i can just respec after getting the second tree

[tawdry plover]

Getting a 6link, capped res and decent life and ur set to blast

[smoky geyser]

bro this reave of refraction got me like

https://tenor.com/view/lgbt-rainbow-shine-beam-light-gif-12010762

[cunning crypt]

crafted a 5 link in the graveyard i think it's gonna get me to red maps

[lusty helm]

Divine is at like 170c, so 6c is nothin

[cunning crypt]

burnt 120c on ice nova of frostbolt lol

but i'm glad i at least got the build going

[lusty helm]

Wow I didn't know any trans gems are going that high

[cunning crypt]

yeah some are even more expensive

[smoky geyser]

you get me going😏

[lusty helm]

Might need to farm some labs...

[smoky geyser]

take whatever trans gem has the most value in its color and run t1 labs lol

i got a div my 2nd lab so i didnt need to

last i checked green is the best

can also sell lab service if you have an aurabot friend

[lusty helm]

I wonder what the best build for farming labs is ...

RF to laugh at traps? 😂

[smoky geyser]

i udually go deaths oath if im being cheap

jsut need jewelers orbs and a 6 link maraketh bow with a +2 bow gem essence slapped on it

[lusty helm]

Hm not familiar with that one

[smoky geyser]

https://pobb.in/YFXJq6n6erYq

my verison is zoomier but made of paper

[faint ravine]

6-linking an item is like 60c this league

[cunning crypt]

i currently own 0c

[faint ravine]

That's fair

[cunning crypt]

lmao

[spare urchin]

second time i get the nameless seer in the whole league as im leveling my templar, got the modifier in uppper prison... My dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[craggy ice]

do corpse levels matter for anything?

[silk gust]

Is there any problem with stygian spires? I've the nodes placed but I haven't seen a single one in 50 maps

[visual merlin]

Average determines ilvl

[spare urchin]

yeah, makes me not pick up any corpses while leveling my second one as ive already got my graveyard half full with a big bow craft

[vagrant token]

And now I'm at the point where I have not enought keybind because of automation change...

I don't want to place any of those skills on my LMB...

[strong bronze]

take move only?

[vagrant token]

I have 13 skills XD

in Affliction I have RF on my LMB

[spare urchin]

yikes, that is a lot of skills

wouldve been nice to maybe with that change get ctrl-shift skill support

[vagrant token]

YES

or stor turning off my auras

[spare urchin]

which suuuucks

the one QoL i wouldve killed for it keep auras on death

or even better, below the always attack without moving button a "cast on respawn" button#

wouldnt even mind if it only works after the campaign

[potent zephyr]

inflation hitting poe hard

[vagrant token]

Affliction moment

[dusk drum]

How do you guys upscale srs poison build?

[cursive pier]

Definitely my favourite item in this league. Thanks, Rog. :P

[torpid vine]

This league sucks ass with how broken some interactions are. It is completely ruined for me...

[cunning nova]

the numbers speak for themselves tbh

now at archnemesis lv and rapidly approaching kalandra

[torpid vine]

yeah, I could imagine. It is shit indeed in many aspects. There is no chase items when you can buy HH for 20 div. T17 is shit. Uber Bosses are the same as previous 2 years. I am quitting soon tbh

[dim nebula]

agreed

t17 maps being horrible and they nerfed uber loot is ass

[dim nebula]

I miss Ritual League so much tbh

[dusk drum]

We go play standard

[shy badge]

I'm bailing because it feels like they've shadow nerfed all the drop rates for me

[dusk drum]

Lol

[scarlet venture]

i think to do same thing

[brisk orchid]

idek what to play this league

they made all the fun builds not function

[brisk orchid]

wow i wander what happens when they nerf fun and make you have to be the tankiest thing on planet earth to run highest map tier

everywhere i look its RF, DD, hexblast, or MFers

[dusk drum]

Sounds like d4 first season kekw

[brisk orchid]

might aswell be

i get so exited every league to play path

but i just get dissapointed 9 x out of 10

and basically just end up saying oh well ill wait for next league

becuase magic find is so stupid that HH is 20 divs

they hard nerfed mageblood builds

whats the point in making poe 2 when there just turning poe 1 into it

poe 1 should remain for zoomers and just make poe 2 the slow one

theres nothing to farm for

no pinnacle builds

[dusk drum]

Yups

[grim basalt]

use the abyssal allflame

[sonic stirrup]

Use weapon swap to set extra keybinds for the skills you don't actively use

[flint moon]

My friend did this but only got 3 affixes, why?

[silk gust]

Flaring allflame of abyss or Allflame Ember of Abyss ?

[sonic stirrup]

split

He got 6 affixes

But they were Split over two items

[cunning nova]

+3 explicit

maybe +5 explicit will do idk

[silk gust]

Ok, I tried and spires spawns on the map... But destroying them don't count for the challenge. Still on 0/5

[grim basalt]

Damn. May have to spec ur atlas tree for them

[spare urchin]

i would kill for the method to just burn up a corpse, instead of having to itemize and then drop it. like, the right bottom corner of the pop-up would be a perfect place, mirroring the itemize option

[solar crescent]

Does anyone know the starting cost for doing the strongbox + exiles farming method? And at what point you can start it profitably?

Just alch and go isn't earning me anything, my best map so far got me a whopping 15c with the league mod thst converts drops from certain monsters to chaos.

My build sucks right now because I can't afford the upgrades I actually need (which happens to include getting my res maxed, I'm just rushing maps without life or res right now, it works but progress is slow af)

[versed valley]

Guys i have made a discovery of Socketless a Bow

[spare urchin]

yeah, thats kinda common

keep it as a souvenir for standard after league XD

[hollow dune]

Any good league start builds for Blight, rather not do DD again lol

[versed valley]

if this will be pathed there is a chance it might worth a fortune

[spare urchin]

yep, at least for collectors

[versed valley]

well wasn't planning to sell it as scrap

[potent zephyr]

bro why did it tell me activation failed after i started my map

i lost a good mod

fix all flame

[north canopy]

How do you all farm corspes

I found a atlas tree focused on corpse rush, with tons of pack size and mirrored rare scarabs, but cant i farm them while doing my blight strat too?

i wont sell them, i only need ones for my crafts

[jolly pawn]

I just came in here to say that this game has literally been ruined for me from one season and if all of these changes stay in the game I'll probably be done for good. I've never experienced a game I enjoyed playing so much get completely gutted and reverted to an unenjoyable grind where the only way to make currency is to create uber uber tanky builds ans run some of the hardest content they've ever put in the game. Nearly everything I enjoyed about this game has gone away. Future looks bleak. RIP PoE.

Yeah. It'll be a fresh start. I think the dev team was taking the feedback about there being too much bloat in the game too seriously and just started DDing enjoyable league mechanics. There's so many changes that I don't like I don't even wanna list them but I'm still excited for poe2.

[tough cipher]

The scarabs from intervention in betrayal are always the lowest ones or is there chance to get some better ones?

It seems like all the rewards from betrayal are pile o crap in this league..

[rough topaz]

Is the xp better in a 5way or chayaula's?

[copper fable]

is it worth putting manifested wealth on "accompanied by a rogue exile"?

[lusty helm]

has there been any word on if they plan to make any ui changes with the necropolis stuff?

[bitter locust]

BAMA has been nice for Blight, easy to hold down lanes without being there

[hollow dune]

Thanks! I'll check it out

[solar tree]

Did they remove the consuming thralls (lightning titty bitches) from eater of worlds maps? Anyone seen them?

[chilly bloom]

which allflame do you use on convert strongest monster drops to #?

[bitter locust]

The tech had been to combined the convert dropped weapon/armor/jewelry as # devotion mods with the rogue exile allflame, since they drop a full set of items every time. However, the price of that allflame is currently absurd, so you would be hard pressed to make more with it than you would just selling it. Meatsacks are probably your next best option

[short lodge]

How does one obtain the special corpses for different bases, like the ward base for example? In map, not on trade

[lusty helm]

Just random afaik. You can take the bottom left and bottom right necro nodes to maximize corpses

[dim nebula]

I promise you I will learn from my mistakes

[lusty helm]

That makes one of us

[tender ibex]

It is time for GGG once again to stand up and act! They made an amazing post launch patch. Now we need another one!

[dim nebula]

and then another one

[cobalt gyro]

Hey can anyone OP help me clear a t17 map for the 5 slot map device? my character does not have enough damage to clear it :/

[stable bolt]

How are my legion farmers doing? on vacation but haven't seen many posts about it, only that it got hit a bit
Still decent enough to do or bubblegum only profit now?

[dreamy light]

whilst playing splitting steel i am required to use a movement skill with beltimber blade to get +2 proj.
Automation doesnt work in this instance, what is the stand-point of GGG in using the num-lock trick to use a skill on repeat?

[waxen ridge]

why is betrayal so bad LOL

[leaden frigate]

anyone know if you can spec dif points after a map is locked

or will it go by the tree that was there when you selected it

[tawny pasture]

Map snapshot

Cant modifie atlas after to affect it

[gritty basin]

What do y'all do when you vaal a map and roll the mod that disables regen?

Vendor 'em, save 'em for 3->1 upgrades?

I can't imagine there's too many people out there who run builds that work well on that mod

[tawny pasture]

Lets em rotten in my map stash

[tawny pasture]

Leech

[gritty basin]

Oh good point

[sonic stirrup]

EB is fairly popular

[gritty basin]

I suppose... but even so, they're unlikely to be buying those maps when they can just roll 'em & deal with it if they hit that mod

Which was really the problem; I'm running RF and so regen is slightly important lol

[valid mist]

delete them

too lazy to try and recycle unless I'm desperate

though my build can run them they're just annoying

[prime bloom]

does anyone know if item level matter for morgue crafting?

[deep geyser]

How long till we get the affliction box items in shop... ive been waiting to start farming till I can get the tracking ring ><

[plush wasp]

I want a satisfying explosive build that fully explodes the screen but isnt expensive and league starter, does that exist?

[neat rover]

yeah rf chieftain

walking simulator

[lusty helm]

oh boy first big patch

"Ctrl + Right-clicking a skill icon for an instant skill when rebinding skills or within the Character panel now uses that skill." does this mean what I think it means?? no longer need to have auras bound??

[gritty basin]

Strictly speaking you never did - you could bind them, activate them, and then unbind them and they'd stay on

I think this basically just cuts out the 'bind/trigger/unbind' and replaces it with a way to trigger from the menu

personally I'd like to see a world where the auras aren't deactivated when you die. But that's just me

[deep geyser]

ah that explains it, it was kinda worded confusingly

[lusty helm]

My brother, that's binding them

[gritty basin]

Wasn't sure if you meant binding in a temporary sense or in a permanent sense

I played with a guy who went 300 hours before he found out you could unbind them without disabling them 😄

[lusty helm]

lol

[gritty basin]

I'm real interested in that section about the trade site... I could be wrong, but I don't remember any mid-league changes to the trade site before. Honestly, I don't really remember league-based changes to it at all

I wonder if that's an indication they're expecting this to go core, or if I'm reading too far into it

[lusty helm]

i kinda assumed it would since they made atlas tree shit for it

probably a weaker randomized version of mods

[edgy merlin]

are you not weaponswapping to activate auras lol

x qwert ctrl+qwert x

[flat egret]

can graveyard crafts make grasping mail with fire/cold overcap?

[opaque palm]

Yes, grasping mails crafted in the necropolis can roll grasping mail modifiers. There are mails up on trade with grasping mail modifiers and multiple fractured mods, which is impossible if not from graveyard.

[flat egret]

nice to know

[digital bay]

is the bulk trade coffin out? I can;t find it

[slate bramble]

Why did econ tank?

[flat egret]

they adjusted the amount of juice from the squeeze

[slate bramble]

damn, good thing I sold a few days ago

[hot kestrel]

I don't see bulk trades for coffins either

Feel like they made a whoopsie

[dim nebula]

kekW

[shut ravine]

made 10 divs just from selling those lmao

[tawdry plover]

Clear ur browser cache

[hot kestrel]

Yeah did that a moment ago and can see them now but there are 0 listed for any of them

[tender stone]

anyone know how allflame anarchy strat works?

did they spam fill all allflame slot into anarchy?

or jst one has good devoted mods?

[restive crescent]

the "exploit" is gone, good riddance, stick to that

[frail willow]

oh did they remove it ? there was no mention of that in the patch notes

[restive crescent]

it now only spawns 1, so yes

[tender stone]

so we cant fill 5 same allflame to get more loot?

[restive crescent]

you can

but it will be less then filling your entire monitor with exiles

[frail willow]

1 what ? rogue per allflame or only one rogue allflame per map ?

[restive crescent]

1 rogue per pack

[lusty helm]

teh pack turns into 1 rogue instead of a pack of rogues

[frail willow]

aaaaaahhh i see

[tender stone]

so if u 5 slot then ,first slot mod was strongest monster drop etc.. if i put 5 same meatsacks will other 4 with different mod will get the first slot mods?

thats what im wondering

[frail willow]

anyways the reason im here , how can i find a couple of people to help me run a t17 to get the 5 slot map ?

[restive crescent]

you can always write in trade chat or global chat

[frail willow]

i did so in global , got " call them " as a reply

[tender stone]

@restive crescent can u answer this

[tawdry plover]

No it doesn't work that way

[lusty helm]

each pack slot has its own mods they wont share just because you replaced them with the same thing

[tawdry plover]

The first slot meatsacks get the first slot mod, 2nd slot 2nd etc

[restive crescent]

So you have the highest density packs, top 3, you slot the exiles in it you will have as many packs as they were before BUT those packs consist from a single exile

same goes with meatsack

exile now = meatsack

1-1

[tender stone]

will they share 3 of the mods?

thats what im wondering

[restive crescent]

yes

[tender stone]

is it some kind hidden mechanic or what

[restive crescent]

no

you replace the packs, you don't replace the mods

the mods are fixed when you open a map

[tender stone]

yea i know it replace the pack

[restive crescent]

you can just move them up and down

[tender stone]

will they share mods jst because they same pack

[restive crescent]

the pack becomes 1 monster with those mods

[tender stone]

so the 2nd 3rd slot will share the 1st mods devoted because they same pack?

[restive crescent]

no

each slot has their own mod

[tender stone]

okay so they not

that just i want to ask xD

[restive crescent]

it was hard

😄

[tender stone]

im wondering why anarchy strat so broke i thought they fill all slot with anarchy

because it maybe share the good mods with it

[restive crescent]

nah, it was because of scarabs

not the necro mods

[tender stone]

ah the 100% uniq drop?

[restive crescent]

well, necro mods with quant and rarity could have been a parr of it if it rolled

yes

[lusty helm]

think I might be about done with Trade soon... suggestions on a good ssf starter this league?

[fleet notch]

It makes you think how they let abyss go last league, but are actively nerfing things this league. I feel like Im punished for not doing meta bullshit

[tawdry plover]

I don't feel punished but yea definitely a different approach this time

[fast oxide]

In a nutshell. It’s very frustrating. High end players destroyed the value of most items and then now get to laugh while casuals deal with the gutted league mechanic

[gritty basin]

lol I was already priced out of everything

I found the expensive div scarab a week ago, sold it for 14 divines, and that was more wealth than everything else I've done in the league to date, combined

Actually that might be a lie. I might have finally broken even on that one

[shy badge]

that's my issue, I hit 60 hours play time, haven't had a lucky drop of any kind, and only 1 raw div .. it's like base drop rates have been nerfed into the ground

[lusty helm]

ive had 2 raw div, one in act 10 and one in a low end quest heist. Not a single one in maps lol

[shy badge]

I'm playing helldivers2 instead, less time wastey

[azure field]

If I'm not using all the slots in the graveyard, it is still possible to get all the mods?

I'm trying to craft now and just using 30 corpses and I think it's not all linked to each otehr

[gritty basin]

@azure field you can have any number of corpses (up to 88) but they have to be orthogonally connected - so everything has to touch at least one other corpse, no diagonals, for it to be considered the same craft

[slow isle]

strongest monster rare items covert to div card, what all flame? rats?

[lusty helm]

strongest monster usually wants meatsacks

rats or frogs for all monsters

[azure field]

What does orthogonally mean? Sorry for the ignorance. This is currently my layout

[shy badge]

directly adjacent no diagonal

[azure field]

So I have to put more corpse?

So it could be connected?

[shy badge]

yeah, if you are doing one big craft, all the corpses have to be next to each other in a big blob

[sullen igloo]

So guys show me your best crafted carambas items

Caramba = bias

New fck word

[tawny ravine]

Question, does Fear of the Light add haunted mod to your non-base monster pack (harvest, abyss, breach, etc)?

[strong bronze]

how do you apply 2 of the same scarab to a map?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSyMmxYYD5E

[tawdry plover]

Some scarabs have limit greater than 1

So u just put them in multiple slots

[strong bronze]

i see that now

[shy steppe]

Man, they really destroyed their stance on not making mid-league nerfs this league.

[turbid gyro]

Yeah they cant make up thier minds

Now it's back to 7d h farm

[shy steppe]

Not actually against it. I was about to quit because buying anarchy allflames was getting too tedious. Just funny that they keep making nerfs.

[gritty heath]

So besides exiles what's the highest investment farming strat for a solo player now?

[spiral cloak]

lost a apothecary from div card doubler, bought another and went to 4

looks like im not quitting

[heavy crane]

Funny how on the day i decide to upgrade my build a little, buy a HH and whatnot, the patch drops and the HH price doubles in price

[gritty heath]

I had a lot of fun solo farming exiles in crimson temple, a pity they nuked it from orbit

[heavy crane]

now all the no life grinders who have stashes of HH and MBs are rolling in money

[tawny pasture]

since when you can buy that hh ?

[gritty heath]

I bought HH for 20 div, now it's 48

[heavy crane]

what? hh yesterday were 22div

[tawny pasture]

but since when you have those 22 div

[heavy crane]

what are you talking about

[maiden mural]

How much is hh now

[tawny pasture]

im just asking you since when you can afford the hh

[heavy crane]

50

[heavy crane]

for a couple of days

[tawny pasture]

well that a bit on you then since you waited , price will drop down again tho , maybe not like it was but will drop for sure

[heavy crane]

yea its totally my fault

not like ggg went back on their word to not nerf shit mid league

[tawny pasture]

they never said that this league , league have only 2 week so aint mid league and when they patched other stuff it was fine

[barren crescent]

Only buff

[shy steppe]

mid-league means any time after league start. It doesn't mean the actual middle point of the league. And they said it is a rule they abide. It's not something they say every league, it's a philosophy.

[tawny pasture]

so day 1 is mid league

that new to me

[shy steppe]

Yes. It's not new. You're just trying to make some weird semantic argument.

[tawny pasture]

i play since more that 10 years

first time mid league is used like that

and its not the first time they nerf stuff if there is abuse

[heavy crane]

mid league means literally "in the middle of the league", meaning day 1 and early day 2 are considered league starts and anything after that is mid league

[tawny pasture]

they also buff stuff when its undertuned

[heavy crane]

as kasey said its a philosophy in the game dev industry to avoid nerfing game mechanics if they are too rewarding

[shy steppe]

It's not abuse. It's literally just stacking mechanics and them working how they were intended. Abuse would be something like in Ultimatum where you could step outside the zone to pause timer/progression of the ultimatum and get more monsters.

[tawny pasture]

if they nerfed it , its because it wasnt working as intended

[shy steppe]

no? lol

[tawny pasture]

just like thet nerfed when you could make aura reserve 0 mana

[shy steppe]

It was just stronger than they thought it was.

anarchy allflame gave packs of 10+ rogue exiles. This was intended. The nerf to make it 1 doesn't mean 10+ wasn't intended. Just how it stacked with ohter mechanics made that number too strong.

[heavy crane]

they nerfed it because QA team didn't consider the possibility of spawning hundreds of exiles with scarabs in a t17 map

and the fact that the vast majority are complaining about the grinders making 10 mirrors a day helps the reasoning for the sudden nerf

[shy steppe]

I mean, you don't need t17 map, unless you were using the ghost mechanic. But since they removed the ghosts and still nerfed anarchy, they didn't like people spawning thousands of rogue exiles with strong boxes in T16s too

[tawdry plover]

I heard the ghost mod had a weird interaction that was killing hc players or something

Something like the ghosts were reflecting dmg with the minions reflect dmg mod

[valid mist]

yeah, lmao. Now rather than the price being low for all, the people who abused the strat the hardest get to massively profit when it goes back up

[heavy crane]

tell me about it

you're gonna see these people selling double digit HHs and MBs in the next few days

[valid mist]

sure, now it's not 'mirrors per day' or whatever, now it's 'one time injection of like 50 mirrors for a couple days'

[heavy crane]

there goes all my build planning out the window

now i have to find out how to play my build without HH for the next couple of days

[coarse bridge]

I haven’t had time to pay attention to the game that much recently , is this economy as bad as people are saying? Is it time to fresh start ssf? Lol

[swift mesa]

why would u ever ssf over trade

if trade not favorable dont trade

[coarse bridge]

It’s fun to get your own drops

[swift mesa]

yeah but why would u care about trade league then

[tawny pasture]

its not

always easy to make currency

[coarse bridge]

I’m currently in trade league

[coarse bridge]

Bet thanks

[crisp rock]

why did the "Divination Scarab of Curation" drop so hard in price overnight?

[tawdry plover]

The newest patch directly nerfed the strat that was driving their price up

[crisp rock]

ohhh i see :o i sold one before i went to bed for 34 div and today when i looked at them they were at 6.5 or so xD

ohh is it bc of the allflame of anarchy change?

[coarse bridge]

34 div for a scarab lol

[heavy crane]

the highest ive seen was 38div

[heavy crane]

they gutted the top grinders farming strat who were making 10 mirrors a day because it was beyond broken

every map they would play would be a powerpoint slideshow presentation

[shy steppe]

can't use with Back to basics. Such a scam.

[steep epoch]

so happy i skipped this mess of a league

[shy steppe]

If only you skipped complaining about it too. that isn't the price anymore.

[steep epoch]

I concur how dare someone critique GGGs questionable choice of balancing

[shy steppe]

yes. you skipped so you don't know what you're talking about.

You can only regurgitate what someone else said.

[steep epoch]

I am not wrong (:

[shy steppe]

You're not right.

[steep epoch]

i digress, enjoy the league

[red stone]

For high-end necro bama builds, is tri-ele the way to go? Or doomfletch with flat phys stacking

[surreal tundra]

Can an1 tell me what is a meta league starter

[frigid venture]

ok so how does this corpse work?

does it:

a. Give the item a random influence first then rolls modifiers under that influence based on other corpses

b. Rolls modifiers from ALL 4 conquerors (based on weights applied by other corpses) AND THEN give it the conqueror influence that the modifiers came from

[sturdy vector]

Does anyone know if the corpse craft fracture obeys the "needs 4 mods" to fracture? I'm assuming not since it doesn't obey anything else but I don't wanna waste a craft

[visual merlin]

You can craft a 1 fracture mod item

[sturdy vector]

Dope, thanks

[prisma ridge]

so farming t17 is new strat in this league?

[valid geyser]

Is there a recipe excel or what not that people have a lot of recipies in for necropolis crafting? I can't seem to find any online

[edgy merlin]

How the hell do I price coffins if there's a ton of garbage listings at the top

[edgy merlin]

if they're shared they lose profitability

[edgy merlin]

they JUST nerfed one of the strats

but you can kinda MF now with the increased currency drops

[waxen radish]

Hi, guys do you know if mortal set was also removed from ritual? I know they have in patch notes divination strongbox. But there is no wording over Ritual , but seems very rare to get anything good there now.

[prisma ridge]

oh ty, btw MF mean?

[edgy merlin]

magic find

increased quantity and rarity on gear

[prisma ridge]

glad to know

[cinder isle]

Havent played since Ritual league, looks like the current league started recently so Im gonna give her a go, Anything I should know? Anything that is new permanently added to the game from previous leagues/ removed/ etc?

Also, anyone have a good idea of a build that would be good as a league starter?

[gritty basin]

@cinder isle There's been a few changes, idk if any would count as 'critical' to know. Omens & Tattoos are a thing now, both from a recent league. Omens are items you hold in your inventory & trigger on certain conditions (anything from spawning a portal when you die to refilling flasks when they're low, etc. One use only.) Tattoos work kinda like jewels, but they replace nodes on your passive tree instead of going in jewel slots. They took a heavy nerf but they're still a neat layer of depth.

[cinder isle]

Oh, those both sound pretty neat, thanks. Ill have to get into it and see what its like

[gritty basin]

Also I honestly don't remember how far back Ritual was... did you play with the Beastiary mechanic? Heists? Delve? Pretty sure the Temple mechanic (Alva) and the Syndicate (Jun) were pre-ritual? I think?

[cinder isle]

all of those existed and were old mechanics permanently implemented, yeah

Ritual was probably 3 or 4 years ago? maybe a little longer? lol i cant remember

[gritty basin]

That'd be about when I started playing lmao

Uhhh prophecies got removed. That's a thing that happened

[cinder isle]

They had that grove mechanic in there too where you could craft really well

[gritty basin]

Ye, Harvest. Personally I wasn't a huge fan, but that's the beauty of optional mechanics

[cinder isle]

I crafted some GG items with that thing, is that still around>?

[gritty basin]

Yep, it's taken a few hits over the patches but afaik it's still solid

[cinder isle]

It was like the only way to craft back when i was playing, atleast the only way to kinda of gaurantee a good item

[gritty basin]

The current league mechanic is almost deterministic at this point

There's still some level of RNG, but you can get real close to locked in from what I've seen

[cinder isle]

Awesome

Yeah spamming chaos orbs and stuff is just really punishing lol im glad they are adding a bit of control to it

[gritty basin]

(Also, as for league start builds... RF, Explosive Arrow, I think Detonate Dead was super strong? but I might be misremembering)

Specters are pretty solid but I feel like zombies got knocked down several notches

[cinder isle]

hmmm, What is RF?

[gritty basin]

Righteous Fire

[cinder isle]

Oh okay

that rings a bell

thats like the fire aura thing yeah?

[gritty basin]

Yee

It's been my league starter for the past like 5 leagues lmao

[cinder isle]

I assume thats a witch build?

[gritty basin]

Surprisingly no

[cinder isle]

oh okay lmao

[barren crescent]

or

[gritty basin]

Chieftan (Maurader) seems to be the most comfortable, but yeah Templar can do it pretty easily too

[cinder isle]

Okay, I think ill start with that. I dont want to make my first character too punishing lol

[gritty basin]

I think there's also a... barbarian? is that a maurader class?

[cinder isle]

Sucks when you need certain items and stuff

[barren crescent]

proceeds to set themselves aflame

[gritty basin]

If you're following a build, RF has some slightly forced uniques, but the only one that's crazy expensive is the amulet

[barren crescent]

What does it even use nowadays?

Ashes?

[gritty basin]

The build I'm running wants Defiance of Destiny

[barren crescent]

Yeah that works too

[gritty basin]

It's only 57 divines

[shut seal]

how to craft corpses? no clue about this league

[tall anvil]

Are the servers dying or something?

Getting up to 8K latency

In towns its fine but not in act 8 lunaris Temple first floor

[stable yoke]

Sometimes after killing an enemy a window will pop up showing what the corpse is and an option to collect. Graveyard dude comes and grabs him

Then you go to the cemetery or w.e and bury the corpses you want to use to craft

[wide kayak]

Does fracture count as a Meta-Modifier Corpse for Decisive Souls?

Or is it just inc effect of other corpses?

[stable yoke]

Number 2

[wide kayak]

Shit :C

[stable yoke]

There are others, but they'll be like that, something to do with the other corpses

[dim nebula]

I need a lazy build

something with big aoe and very few button pressing

thinking about rage vortex of berserking

[sturdy vector]

Has anyone tested if its possible to awakener orb a fracture/influence gravecraft?

[turbid gyro]

What a freaking roller coaster this league is

[red stone]

I have a level 20 AG gem running right now, if i go to town (so he "despawns") and replace the gem with a lvl 21 one, will in lose the AG items?

[silver kettle]

no, AG items are saved to your character. what you do to the minion or which AG gem you use doesn't matter (except the minion dying)

[red stone]

thanks sir

[empty hawk]

The fact they had to do 2 massive mid-league changes shows what little foresight theyre making with their decisions.

Also, I FINALLY got a character strong enouh to start farming the t17s tormented spirits because, it was OP.
And then they destroyed it.

Good, so now 0.000001% are rich as fuck, and nobody else is allowed to do anything about it

Wonderful

Super thrileld about that

[old tulip]

I'm like 90% sure the "can't be stunned while fortified" node for Champ isn't actually working. Getting stunned in maps randomly. Not frozen, not hindered. Just stunned

[empty hawk]

Are you getting pinned from rogue exiles?

[old tulip]

does that prevent you from blinking

[empty hawk]

yep

The green rain of arrows rogue exile dude

pins you

Cant move or use movement abilities

No way to prevent being pinned from what I know, other than blocking or dodging the hit I suppose

[old tulip]

that's neat, it really makes all the time spent working towards ailment/cc immunity extra valuable

I think they should add super ligma poison that is chaos damage that goes through chaos innoculation

[empty hawk]

Its only one specific rogue exile in the whole game that does it

but obviously farming rogue exiles now its a lot more common lmao

[sonic stirrup]

Don't farm rogue exiles if you don't want to get hit by rogue exiles

And it's not like you're stunned or frozen

You can still use your dps skill

Which is likely to keep you alive

[empty hawk]

It is a busted ass skill that has no palce in the game imo, randomly one mob in all of POE can fuck you

When you have 15,000 beyond mobs and 100 ghosted rogue exiles shooting at you, sometimes DPS isnt enough my fren

99% of my survivability on my character is frostblink

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[mellow sun]

OK folks, am I doing this correctly? Anything I need to change before I press the button?

[empty hawk]

I havent done any corpse crafting this league because id rather stab my leg repeatedly with a steak knife than tediously go buy 88 corpses and place them, so I dont know

[mellow sun]

It's why I love having a shitty desk job. Gave me something to do throughout the day between calls, LOL

[gritty orbit]

what are the items i can use for leveling through acts with split arrow (bleed build gladiator)

[maiden bridge]

Is hexblast a tanky build?

[lusty helm]

can be if you build it on trickster i think

[warm anvil]

Decided to try a new build thos lg ball light jerophant

Freaking amazingly fun

[vagrant token]

Okay I finaly found why I dislike this league
I have already purchased 2 Quad tabs for coffins And feel like would get 1 or 2 more at next sale...
I'm too hoarder for this one

and yes, Right now I;'m looking at my coffins spreadsheet looking to what I want to craft XD

[lusty helm]

Yo GuysGroceryGames devs, now that y'all nerfed things in other ways, can we get "increased chance of devoted modifiers" back? feels bad to have increased effect and never see any halfway decent ones lmao

[solar crescent]

Are there any other nodes on the atlas tree that boost allflame drop chance? I got the top left cluster but its like 32% which feels a little low... Even if I am getting 2-3 all flames per map.

[lusty helm]

technically the ones that boost haunted mods likely will increase it slightly

[vagrant token]

and +1 tier to haunted

[solar crescent]

Oof... That's all the way at the bottom

[vagrant token]

my snowflake atlas XD

[solar crescent]

On mobile so I can't get my actual treet but it looks pretty close to this: https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BAAQACQAW_mcLzkY_sXxVDD6jEGN6p87TdeLcwWuMEzQxjBky7dFOgCRkZmpkKVt6CtOG35sNTDV6jPG0YqJT9Vp5Z8hBalDZh9vtZm5FAAfiwgAAAAAAAADAwAAAAAAAAAAAA==

[vagrant token]

Do you have so little points?

[solar crescent]

Im only in yellow maps, I took affliction league off so I'm rusty and slow

[vagrant token]

Then you should go to "noscarab" keystone

[solar crescent]

My build is also in need of a lot of help, I didn't really realize how expensive it would be when I started

[vagrant token]

what is your build?

[solar crescent]

So im level 85, midway through yellows, not capped on res, less then 2500 life, pure glass cannon... Which has been working for basic farming but I can't push reds with it

[solar crescent]

Ele hit

[vagrant token]

Deadeye?

[solar crescent]

If I was at my home pc I could link the pob I was following, but sadly at work for... 4.5 more hours

[vagrant token]

West coast?

[solar crescent]

Yes, working on my cluster jewlels, thats also why I took the abyssal jewel nodes, trying to RNG into some good 5-6 mod ones

[solar crescent]

Midwest, I just work late

[vagrant token]

If you want to play with mechanics drop something to reach this keystone, it would give you net +19 points
Then take Shrines clusters

Shrines + Nico buff

and also if you need help with regen there is this notable

So it would look like this

[solar crescent]

Hmm, maybe. My plan was to farm scarbs and all flames for a bit until I can properly gear up. Then GGG nerfed the exile farming method and ruined it

Also is there a way to mass buy lower tier all flames? It sounds dumb but I want to spam expedition all flames, they produce a passive income of artifacts and rerolling currency

[wide kayak]

I think i found the best unique farm strat for ssf just now

This is without exiles, just 2x lowest reliquary scarab, 1x mirror rares scarab, 1x tormented traitor scarab. T17, full map effect atlas, go for +2 additional modifiers on rare mobs on t17, done

[thick nexus]

Anyone doing T17 Carries, Need 1 map for 5 map device

[gritty basin]

Are the conquerors significantly stronger than they used to be? Or am I just way weaker than I thought I was

[gritty basin]

They added allflames to the bulk trading side, tho idk how many people are selling in bulk

Just looked and I guess they're only doing bulk sales for 80+... not sure if that's a low enough tier for what you're looking to do

[narrow zenith]

A question for graveyard crafting: If I make this mod “25% Chance to Create a Mirrored Copy” to 200%, will I get 2 mirrored copy from one item?

[subtle umbra]

Hello guys! Is it worth anything ?

[violet citrus]

Did they nerf essence or something, I’m still quite new to Poe. And last league I did essence farming. And got quite a few div, but now all of the essences I seem to get are really low level

[barren crescent]

ye its quite good

[barren crescent]

yep, u only get higgh tier essences in yellow n red maps

so if u wanna farm essences, do it in yellow

[violet citrus]

Okay thanks 😊

[barren crescent]

anyone playing trap of shrapnell trickster?

[solar crescent]

There is no option at all to do a lower level, I wanted to find low level worthless all flames to buy up and farm with

[jovial narwhal]

Can these combo to drop rares with fractured essence mods?

[devout osprey]

yeah but you only need the essence rare chance node. (this is probably much rarer though)

[past obsidian]

Does anyone know of a site that can plan where to plot in the graveyard with the row+column strength

[gritty basin]

Yeah, that'd be a bit harder to do... I guess you could always either grind up a bunch yourself or post in the global chat to see if anyone has some?

[vivid phoenix]

guys can someone help me price a lethal pride timeless jewel?

[leaden frigate]

yo can anyone help me with eater

can pay

[vagrant token]

Courious why XD

[sonic stirrup]

Are you asking why this happened?

[vagrant token]

no

[sonic stirrup]

I guess it was fun to fight the boss

And do I see Maven watching

[vagrant token]

I'm asking what I thinked before trying map with 11 essences

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[vagrant token]

yes

T16 20Q no mods 11 essences maven

if anyone want to try I still have 3 portals XD

[gritty basin]

Wait a second

There's a lantern mod that causes a map boss to spawn with the pack

If I have Maven in the map, and I have that map mod, will she see all the map bosses?

[sonic stirrup]

Maven only witnesses the original map boss

[gritty basin]

Phew

I'm both disappointed and relieved

[old tulip]

had ggg said anything about making rogue harbor not be a pile of laggy trash

[lusty helm]

thats just people's mtx, dont think they're gonna see any changes

[timid bane]

How do you get 30% quality on an item now that isnt necropolis crafted?

or can you not

[tawdry plover]

Perfect fossil it or beast corrupt to 30

Fossil it before it is finished. Please don't reroll ur item

[timid bane]

Perfect fossil wont reroll modifiers?

f

okay

so 20 as good as this wep gonna get

[tawdry plover]

Well once it's pretty well done beast corrupting doesn't really hurt. Sure it's corrupt but you likely weren't going to change much

[raw swallow]

what all flames are good for the pack leader loot conversion mods other than rogue exiles? are meatsacks still decent or are they bad after the nerf

[valid mist]

they absolutely fucking gutted meatsacks

like probably worse than just the base pack monsters

I killed two rare ones with rarity->scarab in red maps and got like 3-4 scarabs each

[burnt osprey]

What’s a good duo build?

My friend and I want to make a duo in our brosf

[crude kettle]

wth i had no idea it cld all be yellow mods

[rugged comet]

for essence scarabs of calcification would it be absolutely enough to run magic maps with +rare monsters?

rolling those maps sucks (if u dont want to use certain services)

[red wharf]

what can I do to optimize getting shaper allflame/corpses?

other than shaper scarab + high pack size maps (well rolled maps + scaling from tree), anything else I can do to improve?

[elder hill]

how do you unlock the multiple loadouts for the atlas tree?

[grizzled moon]

atlas points

[edgy merlin]

50 and 100 pts unlocks them

[worldly radish]

Heyo im pretty new but hit maps a day ago. Any player here want to team up or maybe show me how to progress from there?

[elder hill]

thanks

[edgy merlin]

#1┃looking-for-group, also, feel free to ask a ton of questions in #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[gritty heath]

I have 1 million kills and haven't seen a divine/exalt/annul mod once

[keen dagger]

anyone know chaos orbs are currently going for when buying with divs?

[mental swallow]

Check poe.ninja

[pulsar acorn]

About 150

[crisp frost]

with sudos,if i wanne buff attack / crit nodes with the 25% row buffs,how can i select that there for the best graveyard setup? :p

[short compass]

are decreased chance of resistance corpses really rare or am i just super unlucky, havent seen one drop in days

[gleaming sonnet]

How do you get the corpses for stygian belt and shaper/elder and conqueror influence?

[subtle umbra]

Hello guys! Any price check here ?

[crisp rock]

whats the best map for the Breach/ XP Farm?

[sturdy palm]

OMG alva temple crash rolled back my rat divine drop map....

[wicked wing]

which desecrate mtx do i buy? ppl say get a desecrate mtx but not which one

[opal falcon]

guys, with jewel conversion to divine is anarchy or meatsack better?

[gleaming sonnet]

Anarchy

Meatsack for strongest member and frogs/rats for %.

[hollow nova]

Anyone got a build to reccomend for Necromancer league starter?

[grizzled atlas]

is legion farming still decent ?

not sure if I should switch it up

[candid frigate]

does the level of the corpses matter?

should I pick them up during campaign

[viscid plank]

Hey! im looking at graveyard layout on the sudos site. What does it mean with column 25% and row 25%?

[low forum]

hey guys i got the exsan dragonfang amulet for ssf how good is the level +27-28 exsangunate clearing the T17 maps?

[bitter locust]

There are corpses that improve the effect of corpses in that column or row by 25%

[viscid plank]

Oh okay i thought it meant ther was some hidden buff on that grave xD

[gleaming sonnet]

Any tips for getting corrupted jewels in SSF? I just want anything with 2% reservation efficiency implicit.

[bitter locust]

Why would just rolling the jewel for reservation efficiency not work?

[gleaming sonnet]

The explicit is for mana reservation efficiency. The vaal implicit is for general reservation efficiency, which applies to life as well. I need 2% to be able to fit 3 50% auras on Prism Guardian.

[bitter locust]

Ahh, I never realized. Corrupted strongboxes would probably be the most reliable way to get a lot of chances at them

[agile hemlock]

There is also an atlas node that has rogue exiles drop corrupted jewels IIRC.

[gleaming sonnet]

I don't think it's there.

[rigid shadow]

can i have more than one invitation from kirac?

[mighty crag]

(noob here) can someone help me how can someone do skill tree like this by not conecting some points

[barren crescent]

That left side jewel socket is most likely a Thread of Hope

[bitter locust]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Thread_of_Hope

[faint ravine]

With how dumb t17s are and with how relatively low the scaling ceiling is for nonailment dots, i cant imagine it being good at all

Poison exsang maybe

[fallen terrace]

is there any point to this keystone?

the mods you get from corpses are random anyway

[cunning crypt]

Wat's the best allflame to use on monsters can drop an additional chaos orb ?

[scenic linden]

Is sear completely removed?

[scenic linden]

frogs and rats if its %# for chaos orb to drop

if its strongest monster drops it was meatsack but heard it got nerfed not sure

[hazy schooner]

I would like to start a fulcrum chieftain, I have a budget of around 60 divs. Is it viable for end game content? Is there a good guide I can follow from a youtuber or sth? thanks for the help

[neat rover]

life flasks with 30% quality non corrupted are 1+ div wtf

[fallen terrace]

yeah they're pretty rare

[neat rover]

xdd

my one is better

lets try to sell it xdd

[upbeat spade]

any news when the servers will be stable enough again that one can play again?

[cosmic spire]

pretty late start into the league, what builds are looking good for a budget? I keep hearing minions got buffed.

[neat rover]

i feel like this gonna cost something

[spiral raven]

The amount of price fixing this league

Is insane

🤡

[agile idol]

is there actually a market for all my coffins I found in yellow maps and below or do only the red i80+ ones sell? Most of my price checks say 1c-3c but I wonder if they just sit in listing forever

[tawny ravine]

It really makes no sense you can bury 88 corpses at once but Morgue can only carry 64 at once

[pulsar acorn]

landed the craft first try baby

[vagrant token]

Intresting is only I hope that necrocraft would go core? 🤔

[vagrant token]

Try to sell via Wealthy exile.
I often ask people for less then 80 lvl coffins. They obviously cost less but still usable

[upbeat spade]

friday evening is the best day for server stability

[vagrant token]

Servers...

3060 and 7800x3d couln't handle Blight in T16 map, and you hope that something would be able to handle Beyond farmers? XD

[wicked trout]

I tried starting the league with Ice Trap Trickster, then Elementialist, settled on BoneShatter Duelist...so much better!

[vivid ledge]

Hey guys, need some help. I've been trying to farm scarabs and it's ok, but I always did t13/14 maps. Now I wanna farm scarabs in t16 but saw the allflame for that is around 60c.
Is it still worth buying a few if I have all scarab nodes etc?

[wicked trout]

At that stage, 60C is affordable, go for it

[vagrant token]

I doubt you will get your money back without some IQ gear. But you might buy 1 and wait Tier 3 Item Quantity mod

[neat rover]

guys, how much % split corpses you need for 4 items

400% ?

[vagrant token]

201-300% for 3 splitet copy if I understant correctly

[neat rover]

thank you so much

[lusty helm]

Ya 300 should guarantee 3 copies plus the original

[vagrant token]

Heh guess I will go gamba my first corruption chamber XD

[subtle drum]

graveyard gave me funny ammy

[vagrant token]

wooooops

[hoary pulsar]

not a single exalt lmao.

[neat rover]

okay i am about to try to craft fractured rf helmet

i feel like its a bit scuffed and its gonna be complete fail

i'll be happy if i get 1 good fracture.....

omg

GUYS

I GOT IT

second one is bricked

[past thistle]

How has everyone been selling scarabs? Bulk sell tool?

[warm iris]

hey there

how much the corpes item lvl counts

when im crafting

?

is lvl 78 ? or should I go

for at least lvl 80 corpse?

[lusty helm]

Anyone playing coc dd without mtx that can comment on how the performance has been this league?

[winter elk]

can a existing character from last league start the new league or i have to create a new character?

[lusty helm]

Leagues are fresh start only, your old char is on standard now

[hoary pulsar]

88 graves 6+ hours and a couple divs spent buying coffins, lets see if I can get a +all/physical skills with double crit , or see if I just wasted the past couple days prepping

[subtle drum]

well

that sucks

[hoary pulsar]

mb, trhat was split

[swift mesa]

negative divs/hr

[candid frigate]

anyone knows what devoted monsters spawn the nameless seer?

[hoary pulsar]

yeah, spammed the generate outcome on craft of exile for a couple hundred times and not once did it not roll 4-5 modifiers or a skill gem

Either extremely unlucky, or extremely innacurate

[hoary pulsar]

ill stick to the old fashioned way of crafting thanks lol

legit 8 essences for all skill gems

[dim nebula]

dude, nice

that's lucky

[vagrant token]

So split copy actualy split item, good to know

[warm anvil]

Party invites still fuckd for console?

[lusty helm]

figures, now I get an allflame of anarchy for the first time

[warm anvil]

I've gotten 3 of those in acts

Don't even know why they good

[lusty helm]

they used to spawn entire packs of rogue exiles, which was amazing for getting a ton of drops. now its just one exile replacing entire packs

I swear deadly prey is the worst passive anyone ever came up with. Worst beast in this map broke out 9 times. and he was the last one so couldnt even make use of the bonus that gave

[snow forge]

is there anything i can do here for the divine orb thing or is it bad?

[blissful onyx]

Just put it on the biggest pack size

[barren crescent]

You want the mod into the pack with highest total monsters in the map

[snow forge]

any allflame i should use?

[barren crescent]

aka frequency * pack size

the bottom monster is probs the rarest pack in your entire map

aka total monster count is low

[snow forge]

do i ignore that +1 modifier on the monster and put it on something with high pack?

[barren crescent]

whats the stats of your bottom monster vs the top monster on that list

like mouse over the mob icon

[blissful onyx]

The mob packs in the lantern are ordered by density

[barren crescent]

so pack size is about same, but you'll have like twice as many rhoas in tha mpa than adders

you can add rats or other very pack size embers into it

if oyu got any

the density remains the same

[snow forge]

oke thanks guys

[barren crescent]

We dont know how much difference between density low vs high actually is

but its safe assumption that its worth the swap in your case

if it was medium vs low and about same packsize, then maybe 2% instead of 1% could be worth

[snow forge]

ayyy

[cobalt wedge]

i barely played poe this season

no reason really

not because i didnt like it

[proud gyro]

yoyo whats the scarab that gives shrines 30% more experience again?

[hoary pulsar]

now that's sexy

[void badge]

Hey, anyone running sanctums with hexblast mines?

[tender ibex]

does anyone have perfect layout for mana perandus pact?

[celest matrix]

guys i did a 4way myself to unlock the 5th slot on map device but i still have 4 what am i doing wrong
i remember thats how i did it last season

[tender ibex]

gotto complete a t17 map now. the unlock got moved

[celest matrix]

oof okay ty

[tender ibex]

np

[violet nymph]

https://youtu.be/sJ9BCduox7A?si=NkGByznkYUh0GB5K

[carmine sentinel]

So, what are the current support spectres, at least for BAMA?

[faint shell]

i need a oscilatin spectre for my DD build.. is there a way to get it from the grave? or is that a special drop?

[sterile rampart]

Do I need to start a new story mode In this league?

[faint shell]

yes. every league. but you have to choose "league" as game mode

[lime agate]

favorite part of this league

[sterile rampart]

Well that sucks cause I never finished the previous one with story mode

[gleaming sonnet]

Is there a list somewhere to see which corpses are meta-modifiers exactly? I don't see this on poedb.

I'm actually wondering if the corrupted implicit corpses are considered as meta.

[haughty oracle]

how much rating corpses are neccesary for tier 1 ?

[gleaming sonnet]

Depends on the mod weight. Somewhere between 900 and 1100.

[umbral cairn]

in the morgue the meta-mods have a border / frame. But you can't see it in a coffin form.

not sure the corrupted is considered a meta mod variant

hmm I just added one to my morgue and it sits in the list with the meta mods so I judged wrong

[gleaming sonnet]

Oh great. Thanks!

Yeah, I don't see the border, but it's below them, so I guess they're meta.

[umbral cairn]

I tend to just think of them as Increased, Scarcity, Buff. Covers the bases when I need to find something

[gleaming sonnet]

I'm SSF so it matters to see what kind I can increase in dropping.

[umbral cairn]

Shame they never got any filter specifics as they drop identified so it shouldn't be an issue to add it.

[carmine sentinel]

So, what's the current meta Scarab farm strategy? All scarabs nodes + ambush + ???

[umbral cairn]

pretty much but you can run most things with both of those so the third option is the one to decide on. I run Abyss when I want Xp with my farm. I also run beyond and expedition for a switch up, all with corpse nodes too

you can buy scarab allflames too for about 50c for when you get a nice devoted mod to apply it to

[vagrant token]

hey am I only one who have problem with ctrl+leftclick on pokebolled Black Morrigan?

[onyx estuary]

Does anyone know if I use the +1 to Linked Sockets in graveyard and I got it up to 6, do I also have to do the socket number corpse? Or can I just use the linked socket corpses alone?

[sonic stirrup]

The corpse adds linked sockets, rather than adding a link like the tainted orb of fusing, so it forces sockets as well, and not just links

[umbral cairn]

finally finished my self-found craft. Got lucky with the aps I think

[versed dock]

If I'd want to fracture 2 mods on my Necropolis crafting item, do I need 200% chance to Fracture?

Or atleast more then 100%

[prisma ferry]

meh this legion is trash, need to figure out some other atlas strat

I'm getting... stuff but its so spread out I probably still don't have a full divines worth of anything

[proud gyro]

what does scarab of hunted traitors do

[dusky bluff]

gg, go next

[haughty oracle]

do i need more than one 500% increased life/fire and so on graves ? do 2x 500% increase anything ?

[sonic canyon]

It would further increase the chances of getting the relevant mods, increasing it to 1000% and more.

[median mulch]

Corrupting a flask provides +/- 10% quality
Does it mean that this one potentially can be 40% qual flask?

[analog ravine]

almost done :>

[quartz berry]

https://gyazo.com/0bb12ae92dfa41d0830d3f4595269076 how much would you price it ?

[dim nebula]

10c

[prisma ferry]

whats the incentive to use these allflames? I mean most of them drop absolutely worthless crap and they make the mobs mad difficult

[dim nebula]

there isn't. that's why everyone's saying the league sucks

[prisma ferry]

it indeed seems like a huge poverty simulator, nothing drops anything of any value

trade also seems weirdly dead already, really hard to sell any half-decent rares

the devoted mods also seem mad rare

in like 2 full days of mapping with necropolis atlas points I've seen chaos conversion like once and basically nothing else of any value, just the jeweller/alteration etc. garbage mods

[turbid gyro]

Yep they over buffed then knee jerked and made it too far the other side.

[prisma ferry]

just mega carpal tunnel syndrome generator right now having to click to pick up all the garbage from the ground

idk also is it because everyone else is poor af too that nothing is of any value

[steady palm]

is the summon stone golem of safegaurding gem worth much?

[light adder]

You can check https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/

[umbral plover]

ok time to surf thru campaign again

[sonic stirrup]

Rogue exile allflame + unmaking orb from armour mod got me 133 unmakings from one rare t7 map with no scarabs and no atlas investment in either.

In general, obviously some allflames aren't worth using in general, but that is always so.

You can make profit with some of them, especially when you slap them on devoted mods on packs with high density and/or bonus tiers or pack size

And the scarab one is also really good of course

And using some meh one with high pack size is nice if you have a #% chance to drop x good thing

I also just think it's fun to slap on allflames

Some are quite hard though

Like the gem one is quite a pain

[prisma ferry]

133 unmaking is about 1div, I mean it's not nothing but not fortunes

[next scarab]

Why does standard not have the new triple atlas trees

[whole crater]

Am I mistaken in thinking that if i need an item with a mod t1 that requires ilvl 83 I should only use corpses >83 ?

[umbral notch]

depend of the mods

some mods need higher ilvl or they will not roll higher tiers of the mod u want, you can check craft of exile for that

[naive wedge]

How do i check for prices on lethal prides and elegant hubris? Seems real dragged to have to check on the calculator

[sonic stirrup]

It's fortunes when you're still in t7 maps lol

[whole crater]

Hey, thanks I mentioneed a mod t1 that requires ilvl83 am i missing smth ?

[sturdy ravine]

fav map slot don't apply to blight map droped anymore?

[violet nymph]

any way for me to know hwcih corpses are unvalbualbe, i have a lot of corpses im trying to sell but Idk which ones are worth keeping

[stark pewter]

Does corpse level matter for crafting? And if so in what way? (I'm assuming max ilvl craft = max corpse level?)

[brazen ingot]

anyone got low tier maps they dont want?

[edgy merlin]

It averages

[edgy merlin]

Its a pain in the ass but use poe.ninja or tft bulk pricing tool

[sacred hill]

Does player IIQ affect allflame drops or corpses?

[sonic stirrup]

It's probably impossible to know that for sure atm

Or at least, I don't think anyone has gone out of their way to test it

Considering that corpses aren't regular items, I'd wager that they wouldn't be affected by iiq, but that's purely speculation

Considering that Allflames are just regular items dropped from kills, I'd be surprised if they aren't affected by player iiq, but again, pure speculation

[hoary pulsar]

holy shit

does this actually have an open suffix? im not sure if that "upgraded" modifier is taking up a suffix slot or if I have to remove it to do a bench craft

[silver kettle]

The crafted mod is a prefix, it does indeed have an open suffix

[hoary pulsar]

ah ok, i thought the crafted ones had"of the craft" lol

[silver kettle]

But since it is a crafted mod, it will be removed if you do another bench craft on it

[hoary pulsar]

understood, thanks lmao.

[sonic stirrup]

"Of Craft" is the name of a benchcrafted Suffix modifier.

Whoops, almost misread something

Anyways

"Upgraded" is the name of a benchcrafted Prefix modifier

[hoary pulsar]

thanks for clarification, at least i had one right. in the process of finding the right boots i need haha.

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

[rigid yarrow]

What are people taking for 5 ways this league, anyone know ?

[slender swan]

hello guys what is the current best atlas strategy for COC DD for example?

[sudden harness]

anyone have a link to the grave crafting optimizer?

not craft of exile the other thing

[queen oak]

anyone available to assist with a T17 boss kill? currently at the boss

[celest matrix]

guys idk much about how to play this game and i can't seem to afford the good farming methods lol so is there any low investment farm strategies that you guys can share

i was flippin scarabs in past 2 seasons but idk what to do now tried breach and legion but dont seem to be making enough money comparing to how fast item prices going up

[next scarab]

SSF

join us

[astral forge]

How do you effectively use the meatsack allflames?

[white vapor]

What do you think about MF in this league?

[stark sentinel]

will this create required sockets or have i to toss in "reroll socket numbers 200+ times"?

[golden ridge]

if i bury those nevalius family members, they must all be connected and also same type eg.demons?

[faint ravine]

You can 6link items for like 60-70c this league, unless you're SSF or crafting something corrupted, probably not worth the graveslots

[stark sentinel]

thanks, but ssf it is :) so it's quite good way for me, since i'm already have a such corpse

[faint ravine]

You'll have to make sure its 6-socketed then

[indigo orchid]

are nameless seer drops affected by map level or any mods?

[brazen ingot]

What lv did you guys get your first div?

[storm saddle]

Rog the Reaper is here for Arimor's soul

[naive wedge]

Is the only way to realistically price timeless jewels to check them on the calculator and look for the stats?

[sonic stirrup]

That's not a realistic way to price them no

Because there's a lot of jewel sockets

With a lot of different builds

What's realistic is to list all of them sky high, and then drop their price every now and then

[pure hazel]

man trading feels dead right now.

just want to grab my corpses to do this craft but i either get afk reply or deaf ears lol

[naive wedge]

Thats what i started doing. Kinda sucks tho, the only one i know its worth something maybe is the 48% Increased effect of non curse auras

Aside from that i'm lost and i've got a bunch of timeless

[minor heron]

this map is giving me mental health, but there are no modifiers that are tough, why is it deleting me?

[pure hazel]

probably the -13 to res and the enfeeble curse

the increases attack/cast speed could be a other reason of the dying

[minor heron]

Do T7 alfalme mobs do more damage than normal?

[sonic stirrup]

Many do

Lantern mods can also be a pain

And desecrated ground can be painful if your chaos res and regen suck

[sacred hill]

90% evade feels more like 99% evade

I put down 4 artillery ballistas that shoot 10 arrows each per attack and spam lightning arrow and still random blue mobs take like 30 seconds to die

[minor heron]

not being raised to T7, should I bug report

[sonic stirrup]

There are only so many tiers

And the mods that just do x thing can often not be raised at all

[minor heron]

man idk how those 2k life bow/wander builds get to level 100, i am mentally drained dying all the time tryin gto map to 100

[lusty helm]

how do i get there...

oh found it

[faint ravine]

Chain-run lowlevel maps, play with a support to make you invincible for all intents and purposes, or, and this is the most likely....paying to leech exp

[north fulcrum]

bro how are people sustaining t16s this league, I have an atlas full spec'd into map drop chance and map tier chance

barely getting 1-3 t16s in one map

are voidstones messing my shit up?

[exotic rapids]

I was busy with work after the first few days of the league…. What’s a good currency strategy that doesn’t involve end game gear

I’m thinking essence?

So I can self craft some gear

[sterile brook]

Best to ask or Ctrl+f those questions in #1┃endgame-help @exotic rapids @north fulcrum , you'll likely get replies, this channel is more for the discussion of the league mechanic

[wary smelt]

slap on a progenesis kek

[scenic linden]

1-3 maps per map is over sustaining if you have singular focus on

[odd parcel]

guys i need nocturnal hideout

[lusty helm]

Anyone else been noticing weird rubberbanding even when latency is consistently well below 100?

[hard token]

just do ventrua’s exp strat

[grim gale]

when this league ends ?

good time to catch up ?

[grizzled moon]

no announced end date

started 16 days ago

[grim gale]

nice

[nocturne galleon]

hey, i opened a t17 I can't run, if anybody wants to take a crack at it the loots yours, feels like a waste to just drop

not sure if this is the right channel

[grim gale]

cant chose

poison srs or lightning arrow