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[candid jetty]

Yup that's what i was thinking. Otherwise full t1s will be easy achievable, which seems OP

[ocean gulch]

anyone who can help me with uber lab?

[bronze night]

anyone can confirm the new ctrl+shift+click works with copying all stacked currencies in trade window? i tried trading in npc and its not working. Havent tried it on a player atm -_-

edit: I finally got it working. It ONLY works for player-to-player trades NOT with NPCS.

[lusty helm]

when all the current league adds is new ways to base craft, it should be op. compare it to shit like affliction or crucible where we had massive borrowed power...

[undone yew]

hopefully in the next couple of days

[low nymph]

WHAT IF IT IS AN APRIL FOOLS

[torpid turtle]

Not neccesarily for important stats like %phys or spell damage or + spell skills gems as they still have way lower weighting, still. It would make it considerably easier

[agile cedar]

so excited for another crafting league that only caters to people who understand crafting 🙄

[shy steppe]

It technically was already op. It just took knowledge and use of a tool to make it such.

[shy steppe]

? The changes literally took away the need for knowledge.

You can't screw yourself by increasing rating anymore.

[lusty helm]

and a lot of luck and/or trading

[candid jetty]

Indeed. It will also lower the weights of a lot of other mods too, making the rare mods with no tiers (+ skill gems) more accessible since the total weight of the item will be lower

[torpid turtle]

The changes should make it a little bit more player friendly (a small amount). Information you should learn however is what kind of mods can appear on a piece of equipment you are making and then simply putting increased for mods you want, but more importantly alo scarcer for mods you dont

[shy steppe]

Yeah. epsecially trading. Didn't like the tiers of corpses. I was expecting that and the base item change to really smooth out the crafting. Wasn't expecting the change to the +tier weighting.

[candid jetty]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but will the changes they'll make to necropolis, I think this crafting league might help a lot of player understand better crafting

[torpid turtle]

Now they just need to make coffins filterable on the trade website

[shy steppe]

Maybe. idk. I don't remember people saying harvest was great for understanding crafting. I think all it does is bring new players to tools that everyone else is already using. like craftofexile and poedb.

Because they are now kind of forced to craft.

[valid mist]

I mean is this even crafting?

It sort of is.

But it's kind of like... Just generating an item?

[shy steppe]

Outside of synthesized and influence, base type doesn't matter. A chaos orb is essentially generating an item of a specific base type. That is just the state of crafting.

[agile cedar]

its just another go next league

[lusty helm]

yeah... it's like rog, but more itemized

[valid mist]

I suppose it's because everything is just one step

[pale hemlock]

League mechanic is pretty bad ngl

[fierce phoenix]

It'll be better next patch seemingly

A few people are already making good bases with it but it's not very worth it most of the time

[valid mist]

Isn't it... Pretty lame? It basically just adds rippy mods to everything lol. I mean the rewards getting better can be nice but it's fundamentally not that interesting. I suppose there's all the other changes.

Even if the mechanic becomes overpowered it's still rather basic. I don't think this goes core.

[fierce phoenix]

Yeah it doesn't feel that exciting

[valid mist]

Is there other stuff to count with the league?

Like arch nemesis released with exarch and eater too iirc

I think synthesis had one of the cooler mechanics.

As like... Concept at least

But a lot of stuff was aids about that league

And it kinda pushed clear speed meta even harder cause you were in timed indtancesb

[sweet folio]

But i already quit and gave away my gear 😦

😭

[valid mist]

Heist is probably my favorite but it's a hassle to grind everyone up.

[shy steppe]

That was a core expansion and doesn't count. The league itself is plenty. It's already more than what harvest had.

[slow isle]

the numbers next to the monsters in the lantern, i want the lowest numbers at the top right?

[valid mist]

I was saying that in the sense of 'the league game with large addition to base game's

Bad asking 'maybe Necro is the same so is so bare bones'

[shy steppe]

And tbf, they don't usually make a league to please everyone. They just try to include updates to many things so that anyone can find something they can enjoy. It doesn't have to be the league mechanic.

I personally like the current mechanic for crafting more than harvest crafting. It's a lot stronger, with the downside being you can't craft on a base you own. Ie Synthesis. So it's disappointing to see people not want it to go core for the simple fact that they don't like it.

If anything, things you don't like work out better as core than they do during leagues.

[hasty perch]

League mechanics are always dog week 1

[elfin sierra]

seer finally had something decent

[lusty helm]

ive still only ever seen him once

[arctic cargo]

What atlas would yall recommend for CF?

[clear anchor]

Is there any way to turn off the auto pathing/auto walking when you cast?

[devout osprey]

yes, click skill on skillbar, then click "attack without moving"

[clear anchor]

No, not that one

[devout osprey]

then idk what you mean

[clear anchor]

example: I'm standing around the door and press RMB to cast my spell, then my character starts moving towards the door, basically auto-pathing.

I've never had that before, ever

[devout osprey]

this sounds like you accidently hold move over door, ive had this with strongboxes aswell

[ruby vapor]

Can someone lend 20c ill give ya back 30c in 1-2 days

[clear anchor]

Nah, I've carefully tested it out a few times and I wasn't holding move 😦

[fresh spoke]

random question i see some people having more than 1 clone with bama how do you get more?

[lusty helm]

transfigured gem

[fresh spoke]

both of mine are

and only getting 3 max

[lusty helm]

yes 3 is more than 1

[devout osprey]

you use both blink arrow and mirror arrow

[fresh spoke]

im using both currently but swear i see people with 4 or 5

[lusty helm]

3 blink clones 3 mirror clones?

[devout osprey]

are both your skills gems trans?

[fresh spoke]

yes

only have 3 total

[devout osprey]

link profile

[fresh spoke]

wow im dumb

i fixed it

using both bombarding

doesnt matter which one? or not really?

[proven spire]

League changes look dope

[hollow nebula]

Anyone know the global channel for sharing spectres or have a pale seraphim or arena master themselves?

[lusty helm]

anyone have any results to share of the non-mtx CoC DD performance update?

[exotic ivy]

any word on this coming league mechanic patch tweak (ie, when?) i don't think i cbf starting the league in it's current state

[alpine sierra]

does scarcer make it less likely to appear or higher tier?

[gritty basin]

The post just says as soon as it's ready - but honestly, I haven't found the new mechanic to be that 'bad' as it is now. It's not hyper rewarding, but the only time I've died to mobs w/ the league mechanic was when I was REAL dumb and I stacked a "hits will always stun" and a "overwhelm 30% of phys damage reduction" on the two most prevalent mods... with the stun being on a ranged mob. Still beat the map tho

[exotic ivy]

I'm just not interested enough to do the campaign with arbitrarily more difficult enemies without much by way of reward. I'm going to wait for the patch regardless

[gritty basin]

I believe the idea is supposed to be that scarcer reduces the weight of that modifier, making it less likely to appear. The one for modifier tier is the one that'll eliminate lower tiers

[gritty basin]

Totally your choice! Play the game in whatever way makes you happy, or the whole thing's a mood point anyway 🙂

[alpine sierra]

Okay thanks

[violet nymph]

what items are good for twink leveling using armageddon brand + cremation? templar

[alpine sierra]

Just level with hollow palm

[valid bloom]

league is gonna be saved with this new update huh, good decision by ggg

[bright peak]

is it possible to buy the clock map device with the timer

[dusk dew]

I don’t get the changes

[humble lintel]

I think if you put first the item you want to craft and then the mods, everything will feel better

currently its confusing for new players

[dusk dew]

I just feel like mapping is harder

It’s like pseudo end game in campaign

With random packs modded up

[still fox]

guys what are haunted modifiers and what are devoted modifiers?

[hollow wharf]

Haunted Modifiers
https://poedb.tw/us/Necropolis_Grave#HauntedModifiers

Devoted Modifiers
https://poedb.tw/us/The_Lantern_of_Arimor with yellow color

[still fox]

aight thanks

[pastel void]

wow they kinda suck imo

+1 charge is nice

[hallow shale]

Are the league changes coming like tomorrow or in 2 weeks? I don't know how GGG works

[tawdry plover]

Im hoping Friday but there was no listed timeline or anything

[hollow wharf]

they're on holiday, probably in two weeks

[undone yew]

Aren't they back from Holiday? The post by Mark mentioned "To get straight to the point of the improvements to the league, here's what we're currently doing today in the studio."

[hollow wharf]

The long weekend here unfortunately cost us the capability to respond to larger changes as fast as we'd like and a huge lesson going forward is to make sure we don't deploy expansions on public holiday weekends as we don't have the personnel available to make changes as fast as we want.

this announcement makes me think they are still on vacation

[undone yew]

right, but wouldnt the long weekend have been "Friday-Monday". Not sure how they observe religous holidays in NZ tho

[sonic stirrup]

At least over here, the long Easter weekend just ended

It's last Thursday to Monday

So I interpret that as them being back from their break

[hollow wharf]

anyway, the sooner it can be updated, the better.

[high fossil]

NZ's first workday back after the long weekend is nearly over.

[wet harbor]

Is it weird that I'm worried if they overbuff the crafting that it will become another harvest situation when it's over?

[gritty heath]

Why are scarabs so cheap this league?

[violet nymph]

sell in bulk

also they changed scarabs in case you haven't noticed and they drop a lot more

[twilit turtle]

Loot is so bad this league, the crafting is horrible. Never get anything worth keeping..

[twilit turtle]

Whatever they do it definitely needs a buff it’s horrible atm

[swift mesa]

yeah

most ppl would have more fun

it doesnt really annoy me that much that other ppl get to have fun

[tulip orbit]

this league has to be the most worst designed thing i have ever seen literally trying to learn the game again because i havent played in 2 years and unless you have absurd knowledge and know every mobs attack patterns etc its completely impossible to know what to put the modifiers on and you just get unkillable mobs its so stupid make it so we can disable this trash

[valid mist]

Tbh the I want them to buff the mob mods to make up for how dumb some of that shit is, crafting is take or leave mostly QoL issues

[hallow shale]

As a new player (played last two leagues but maps for the first time this league) it's been miserable

No buffs or power to be found, but now the mobs stun/freeze me for 10 seconds

[tulip orbit]

yea if you havent no lifed for years and understand every mob and modifier they break the game im bout to just quit its awful

[valid mist]

Game has been quite smooth this far but I'm playing a miner

And some of those mods are dumb as fuck

Like freeze reflection? Thanks ggg

But of course melee gets fucked as usual with stuff like guaranteed stun

I am glad I didn't decide to do a flicker build again

That being said the all flames are kinda cool

So maybe the league will end up being good after tweaks

[grim basalt]

The crafting mechanic feels strong if you actually use it as intended

But you gotta plan a craft and then get all the corpses

[waxen ridge]

told myself im only gonna buy 1 cuz i never buy loot boxes and boom, got lucky

[reef igloo]

does anyone have a loot filter for COC DD

[twilit turtle]

Use imexiles for leveling then just any strict after that

[visual axle]

i got this insane early drop (playing lightning arrow)

[remote orchid]

well

[slow isle]

what are some of the trns gems i should be trying to get for good builds? I know of DD of chaining, and ice nova of frost bolt, Any thing else?

[burnt osprey]

im looking for something to do for my second tree

is incursion good for ssf?

[silent heart]

ah no way since its more bothersome do this craft compare to harvest

[dense fable]

Compared to any other crafting imo

[azure creek]

There's a new keystone on the tree which adds cursed treasures to incursions. They add quite a bit of currency and scarabs. Nothing game breaking, but a great supply of basics

[turbid sage]

tasty doryani's prototype ventors 👀

[tall plover]

Nice one. I got really lucky and the first one to drop was 10 Quant, 35 life and 100 res. Better than all my rare rings I had at that moment. It was white maps, second day of the league

[slow isle]

how do we sustain maps in 3.24 now? i pathed directly up to unwavering to get the bonus 20 points, now what should i do? go throught the center getting the 2% nodes?

[dreamy raven]

whose guide you following?

[ashen storm]

For sustaining 1 specific map is it better to run 0-1 watchstones to keep your t16 pool small or to run all 4 watchstones to get a lot of map tier upgrade chance?

[valid mist]

what pack size is 'negative one' 🤔

[jade mirage]

Was lucky a few years back with the Black body armour, basically was endgame for me

[vagrant steppe]

any delve experts can advise, how to recognize which path has the hidden walls to the node ?

[silver parrot]

yo, is there someone kind enough to explain to me which allflame embers are good? i don t really understand, the only one i ve seen good is meatsack but i still don t understand why s good

[valid mist]

Niko discovered the secrets of teleportation and no longer needs a mineshaft

[lusty helm]

Meatsack is mostly good for buffing up a spectre. There are a few good ones that drop specific things like tattoos, one that makes mobs harmless frogs, one that turns packs into huge packs of rats...

[valid mist]

So how did they nerf stacked decks?

[tawdry plover]

They removed boss unique divination cards from the deck pool

[valid mist]

Well here's a good combo... I'm getting a lot of scarabs this map I feel

[edgy merlin]

You can check gem values over on poe.ninja

You can filter specific quality types uncorrupted etc.

[valid mist]

wow, they sure did add a lot of junk scarabs huh

[lunar stirrup]

not that fast, normally available in week2 or 3 depending on the creator free time, although his patreon can view the WIP version instead

[valid mist]

Is jewel slamming the best usage for exalts these days?

[edgy merlin]

Its the most common use case due to how simple they are to craft

But crafted items can make do too if they end up with 2 empty mods and the other one is a crafted one

Theres also a few benchcraft recipes

[low vigil]

What is the chance to get a Detonate Dead of Chain Reaction if using the transfigure gem option? Should be 50/50 but I suspect Chain Reaction have a lower weight than the other Gem and by how much?

[lusty helm]

50/50? You don't guarantee the same gem just the same color

[grizzled moon]

probably talking about the option that transforms x gem into its transfigured variants

so with 2 variants you'd suppose end up at 50/50

[violet nymph]

Lookin like it’s bout time to make my deadeye a pathfinder

[quasi warren]

The changes are out necropolis is going to be ridiculously strong

[dreamy raven]

I need to restart my char what build I should go?

[grizzled moon]

what did you play, what kinda char do you want

[quasi warren]

Ice trapper!

[dreamy raven]

thats what i switched from

xD

I was Ice trap sabo. Didnt workout mid swap to Hex but now I'm just dying

[quasi warren]

LMAO, I have been playing ice trap and it feels great
You are not tanky but you can clear the packs from afar pretty fast

[keen charm]

is the patch out?

[grizzled moon]

no

[fierce phoenix]

T17 and scarab stuff but the scarab changes seem very negative so far unless they change it a lot

[sour sparrow]

how can some people afford MB so early? I'm done with atlas but am barely able to make a few divs an hour

[valid mist]

the point of the scarab change was to be a nerf, I suppose.

[fierce phoenix]

I don't see why it would be, but it definitely is in practice

[neat ice]

Sanctum, t17 maps, gambling

[edgy merlin]

If you're properly glassed up are no hit runs easy?

Just delete the bosses and mobs

[neat ice]

I dont think so, no hits require some practice and actual skill

[upper dragon]

quick question, do you need to collect the ghost whisps for the next zone/map to get higher tier's cause they take forever to pickup

[mortal crane]

is there somewhere that i can see the prices of all corpses

other then having to search them all on trade

[fresh spoke]

Can anyone recommend or point me into he right direction for a bama atlas tree

[alpine sierra]

i havent had this much fun since kalandra league

[coarse bridge]

When do the fixes go live? I died in hc last night and will probably wait for changes if they’re not live already

[grand oak]

is this true that everybody is leaving poe?

[alpine sierra]

theyre really enjoying 1% chance for jewller orb

theyre prob staying

[flat egret]

no

[faint ravine]

Wdym the new scarabs are awesome

[fierce phoenix]

But we lost half the multiplicative slots for juicing (sextants) and they're comparatively rarer and balanced around group play

It was a nerf on multiple fronts

[faint ravine]

yeah it was a nerf for high-end juicing for sure, it feels soooooo much better for just mindless mapping

[alpine sierra]

does abyss interact with the mechanic?

[fresh spoke]

So with the nerf to some things what are people changing their atlas to

[edgy merlin]

The ark is leaving tomorrow

Anyone not on the ship will drown in the flood

[grand oak]

i’m friends with Noah

[edgy merlin]

I have noah friends

😻

[valid mist]

balanced around group play
🤢

[coral hornet]

im 85 and i didnt see any forbidden tome? how i can drop forbidden tomes?^^

[neat ice]

They are global drop

Pretty rare id say

Something like memory drop rate

[versed wing]

How’s the league so far? Haven’t played yet can’t get it to work in China atm

[neat ice]

Mediocre id say

[native cedar]

from a newbies perspective, @versed wing - I'd say it's great! It's very simple to use and I can control difficulty levels quite well.

[sleek zephyr]

how do you unlock the 5th map slot?

[fresh spoke]

@sleek zephyr how do you unlock the first four?

[sleek zephyr]

in the map device i mean

[edgy merlin]

do a t17 map

[sleek zephyr]

oh thanks

[strong ferry]

I don't want to be too much of a negative nancy but i'm not convinced the announced changes are going to make the league fun. The necopolis affixes are still going to exist, still going to be unavoidable, and as far as i can see some of them are still going to be infuriating. I'm playing a frost archer and I just feel like I'm being picked on whenever I see "reflects non-damaging ailments" in the lantern.

[wanton surge]

im playing ice trap sabotuer, a build which is by no means high (or even mid) range and I feel like the modifiers so far are pretty okay

[stable yoke]

So maps have the necropolis lantern thing too?

[wanton surge]

Yo pog

Just got 5 regal orbs from a 1% chance for an additional drop mod

necropolis league busted confirmed

[granite terrace]

how are you guys sustaining maps? I have 10 favoured jungle valley maps but havent found drops of jugnle valley across 4 maps... which atlas nodes should i pick up to sustain maps like that?

[hexed rapids]

the nodes on the atlas tree that start with "Shaping" are great for this, but you can also favorite 1 other map next to jungle valley so that you can run that one when you're out of jungles and then hope it gives u it back as a connected map drop

[potent cove]

is Polymath bugged? I don't seem to be getting any mana or ES from it...

[tawdry plover]

Are you a trapper by chance?

[chilly cypress]

I hope we get the option to destroy corpses in a map, Geminate Haunting seems kinda annoying rn

[valid mist]

An observationmn I have made

is that you REALLY want to save the Meatsack allflames for 'strongest monster in pack has X' mods since it seems to basically convert an entire pack's worth of drops into one monster

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552615024393322506/1224629098765353032/image.png?ex=661e2fb9&is=660bbab9&hm=b4bc99d117caead33d474199b2d1860aaf00ae7a611aac67b6af2fe8505494e1&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261523438017970177/1224630724938829894/image.png?ex=661e313d&is=660bbc3d&hm=4baf80ff2996b636c0f32f37c2ccc5b5703c5901fbecf7e251e27253ed3c892e&

I had a 'strongest monster in pack 25% chance weapons ->chaos' mods which I'm sad I didn't have one for, but probably would have only gotten a couple

[fiery kelp]

what was that map people run for exarch altars again, the one where the boss does not spawn until you are in the boss room?

[lucid totem]

I just dropped a mirror, how can I get this turned into usable currencies ?

[grizzled moon]

do you have a premium tab

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Listing_items_for_sale_using_the_Path_of_Exile_trade_forum if not, you're gonna have to sell it on the forum

[vivid talon]

me too! I really want to see what that ring is in the background

[edgy merlin]

Buy mirror fragments and div cards

Do NOT do more than 1 trade for breaking it up

[tawdry plover]

Jungle valley?

[empty hawk]

I hope they give us the option to just turn off corpses

Even if they make them itemisable I will still never use them, this mechanic is so bad

Id rather play this entire league without the league mechanics at all tbh, the haunted mods suck, the devoted mods suck, the scarabs suck

The crafting sucks

Why am I even playing this league. Im a fuckin addict.

[empty hawk]

A few divs an hour? Im barely getting a couple divs a day, and I made mirrors last league. I dont understand at all how anyone is making money this league.

[cobalt wyvern]

um

[neat rover]

unique crafting is bugged?

with corpses

[ripe aurora]

Is the nameless seer spawn still bugged sometimes?

[neat rover]

how this shit works???????? I have ONE corpse i need 4 but it doesnt let me add close to it

omg it has to be specific phracia corpse

jesus this is so dogshit

i will go insane with this dogshit system

[placid meadow]

Anyone having issues with "failed to connect to instance" right now?

[fading cedar]

Did anyone try Sacred Wisp Support? How is it?

[grave tartan]

a ralakesh dropt for me today

utt im doin ssf and i dont skew the gameplay.. I figured id sell n give the 16d to my buddy ahah

[potent cove]

yea, why?

[tawdry plover]

traps dont proc on kill effects

unless an enemy dies to a dot they inflicted

[potent cove]

wow that's annoying

[violet nymph]

when is necropolis getting buffed

[keen elbow]

Has anyone even made a good craft yet with the necro thing

[empty hawk]

Ive left every item ive made on the ground other than a couple random rares in the campaign

[magic timber]

Why does the necromancer have googly eyes?

[slow coyote]

You're asking the wrong question. It should be 'why does only the necromancer have googly eyes?'

Everything is better with googly eyes.

[urban tapir]

So noob question... does lightning arrow of electrocution suck or something? It seems really cheap i am using a lightning arrow build and dont know if its worth getting

[tepid canopy]

Been holding off starting this league due to still playing DD2. Is it worth jumping in now or waiting for the new update patches for the league?

[narrow salmon]

is twilight temple still bugged yall? 😮

[narrow salmon]

You'll want higher ilvl corpses anyways so worth hopping in now

[slow coyote]

I've not used it but the skill description makes it sound like it'd suck for clearing. And LA is mostly used as a clearing build.

[urban tapir]

Oh ok thank you. Still relearning the game and this is my first time using a bow build so i appreciate the help

[slow coyote]

Stick with regular LA for now. It's an awesome skill. It's been meta for a while, and there are plenty of good guides out there.

When you get to mapping and have some currency to make the transition, you can switch into Tornado Shot pretty easily too.

[nova ridge]

Anyone have a good place to look for a proper item pricing?

Or anyone able to help me price a jewel?

[slow coyote]

poe.ninja

Or the official trade site

[nova ridge]

It's a jewel, little hard, esp cause unique 😦

no others with 3 or 4 of the same stats on the jewel, and all the 2 stat are 1 div

[slow coyote]

Yeah. You'll have to try to price it based only on the important mods. Don't try to price based on them all.

[nova ridge]

2 crit multi elementals = 1 div

[slow coyote]

Try listing for a div or more then. See if anyone bites.

[nova ridge]

but, ine has cast speed + spell damage

none others do

[slow coyote]

Start high. If no-one buys after a day or two, drop the price.

[nova ridge]

Fair enough. Where would you start when you know like 95% of the two multi's are 1 div, not a single other with spell power OR cast speed of any kind, you have both? Start up at 5? or think 3?

[slow coyote]

Hell, start at 10 and see if anyone whispers 😄

[nova ridge]

Fair.....

lol

[slow coyote]

We're early in the league, so there's plenty of time to try to sell it.

[nova ridge]

I got a late start, only just hitting 80, no div drops yet, so banking 2-3 would be nice, 1 would be great too but I feel like it's better than all the ones listed for 1, just not sure how much thats worth

[slow coyote]

Indeed. It's really tricky to price low-volume stuff like that. Hopefully you bag a few div.

[fiery kelp]

what is the point of this? Aren't the haunted modifiers the dangerous ones? Why would you want them to be even more dangerous?

[neat rover]

anyone gotten fracture or meta craft corpse?

i did sooooooooooo many maps only shit

i have all necro nodes

[quartz ferry]

Anyone can tell me how to open the lantern?

[slow coyote]

More risk = more reward

[wanton surge]

Sooo do the syndicate members drop their regular scarab rewards :o

Like in safehouses and such

[old tulip]

I've got like 15 div to spend on a build, what should I do chat

[random drift]

farm 85 more div

[old tulip]

for what

[strong forum]

That affects Devoted Modifiers as well

x% chance to drop y

[abstract jacinth]

what is pack density and how is it different than pack size?

[keen elbow]

Ye fr its bad

[empty hawk]

Get 1 extra chromatic
SCORE!

[abstract tusk]

lantern isnt popping up for me at the device, any idea why?

[vivid talon]

anyone else having lag spikes? can't even map, 2k ms spikes every 5 seconds

[outer zenith]

Is the nameless seer a guaranteed modifier for the start of the second act per new character?

[violet nymph]

which league start should I start with this league?

[agile hemlock]

Get something with good single target, rares are beefier than usual. Hexblast mines should be quite strong.

[edgy merlin]

Try changing realms

[potent zephyr]

Im 50h into the league and not a single divine has dropped yet

[summer cove]

does the "strongest mob" mod only apply to pack leaders or something?

I didnt get a single div from this map

[agile hemlock]

It's usually more an issue of jewelry items just not dropping

[wicked venture]

good question, i just got similar (only 25% tho :/)

[crimson cipher]

Anyone knows how Singular Focus vs T17 convert prioritization works?

Like do T16 rolls either hit favoured map or currency before taking another stall on a t17 convert dice roll?

Not sure if its just me, but kinda having less sustain with Singular Focus on vs not having it with same exact juice level. I mean, still sustainable enough but just am feeling more of the returns when its not on.

[fresh spoke]

is this correct 1 per 1 Primal life force?

[fresh spoke]

how do i list them in game like that?>

[thorny pond]

Is it me or does Anger support gem is kinda bad?

[terse pelican]

whats ur tips for leveling descently fast? not like rushing through it all, jst wanna reach uo to my felas as soon as possible xd

[sonic stirrup]

put a / in the price

[neat rover]

i have feeling that 90% of necro nodes from atlas doesnt work

[slow isle]

allflame drops rate is so low

[humble notch]

where do you find these guys?

[night lance]

how long does it take to craft another item for the league mechanic

[woven venture]

Hover over the roman numeral next to the mods while peering into the lantern.

[hollow wharf]

tencent releases new Allflame and League QoL updates

[woven steppe]

hey how do you use the coffin on the grave? im right clicking nothing happens

uh wtf, how do you use coffins

[sonic stirrup]

you don't

[woven steppe]

why

i just paid for it

[sonic stirrup]

you use coffins on monsters before you put them in graves

[woven steppe]

1c

oh wtf

so when there in map?

[sonic stirrup]

here

Might also be able to do it while in an actual map, not sure

[midnight agate]

patch notes is out!

[low vigil]

Hnnng fk yea, no more chaos orb reqd to itemize corpse

[night cliff]

Can i remove an already buried corpse?

[shy steppe]

So are the increased effect of huanted modifier passives only down side now?

wrong screen shot lol

[torpid vine]

how do I do this?

I forgot

[hasty perch]

nice , patch coming up "later today" guess its time to go to bed and play better necropolis when I wake up , hf people

[pine gate]

i am assuming they mean daytime in new zealand

[sonic stirrup]

hold shift I think?

maybe also alt or ctrl or something

[torpid vine]

I tried everything and it doesnt work. I am talking about the new 3.24 changes where you dont have to hold Shift and Click as a maniac.

[sonic stirrup]

I know

[shy steppe]

was this in the 3.24 patch notes? Because this used to work on implicits. Worded like a description change, but definitely a mechanic change as well?

[sonic stirrup]

It's just holding ctrl

I went on to test for you

[torpid vine]

It doesnt work for me, or maybe there is an option to togg it on

[hasty perch]

Yeah, thats why i said time to go to bed. By the time i wake up it'll be end of day for them

[torpid vine]

Ahh I got it. It is holding both CTRL and LEFT Click at the same time. I thought you hold Ctrl and press left click once.

[sonic stirrup]

well yeah

[torpid vine]

thanks man, I appreciate it

[vernal stream]

alteration orbs are pretty expensive this time around, 4 for 1c.

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

[brittle river]

I love new patch notes

I just really hope they nerf/fix the newly arising degen mf culling strongbox meta. Otherwise its just a repeat of archnemesis all over

[runic basin]

I wonder what time today that new patch is going to go live...

[waxen ridge]

is the new patch deploying today?

[low nymph]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3502131

yes later today as in NZ time

[shy steppe]

which is like a couple hours. Unless they are deploying after normal work hours.

[violet nymph]

From what I was told you need a T6 natural modifier and place it on a mob with +1 modifier tier to get it

[undone yew]

do we know roughly the amount of wisps final map bosses get via "Thorough Exploration" on the atlas keystone?(Is it worth) And does it stack with Mavens destructive play?

[alpine sierra]

does ritual interact with the league mechanic?

[hollow wharf]

new patch in 1h10m

[clear anchor]

I'm new to crafting and all that, so could I receive some feedback.
Is 4 divine a fair price for these boots, in the current state of the league? Was it too cheap or too expensive?

[gusty lance]

anyone having issues with groups and incursions where the non group leader is stuck inside the incursion?

[west pond]

patch is a massive log in

[sonic stirrup]

#price-check📉

[gritty basin]

Not sure if anyone answered you, but afaik the Devoted modifiers are the yellow text ones - so basically, it's saying that the increases/decreases to modifiers in the lantern only apply to the 'regular' mods, not the yellow ones. That's the way I'm understanding it, anyway

[shy steppe]

Yeah. I know what it's saying. But it applied to devoted modifers before. There are passives that increased the effect of haunted modifiers. Wasn't this only used because it increases an upside? Now it only increases the down side modifiers.

[gritty basin]

Uhhhh maybe? But they're also buffing most of the positive modifiers it looks like

So in effect, it's replacing the 'sometimes' buff with a constant one

[shy steppe]

Still doesn't answer what is the point of the passives existing.

Do Haunted MOdifiers have some hidden upside that is buffed?

[gritty basin]

OH

Yeah, the 'worse' the modifier is, the more corpses/allflames you get. I think that's how it works, at least

[heady panther]

That's my understanding

[gritty basin]

I'm not sure what impact the rank up/down has on that, but hopefully we'll be able to see that when the patch drops and we can see how the modifiers affect those rates

[clear anchor]

anyone online that can kill a T16 juiced map boss?

[manic mural]

I don't have numbers but I've been sorting the mods highest tier first to get then on the highest density packs, and I definitely feel the difference in corpse amount if I do it the other way around

[gritty basin]

Makes sense, I haven't really been paying much attention to the regular modifiers, I just move the devoted ones to the higher density spots

But I'm also playing RF and right now the only thing that can kill me is chaos damage - and that should be mitigated soon

Also I just tried the allflame of frogs and tbh I kinda felt guilty as I ruthlessly hunted them down for the 2% chance for a chromatic orb

[novel void]

Do I need to be in a certain map tier to get the omens to show up in ritual?

[gritty basin]

In a Ritual? I'm not sure I've ever seen one show up in a ritual... there's Allflames for it though, I've stumbled across a few of 'em

All in white/yellow maps

[unreal gust]

Hey all. Let me know if there’s a better channel to ask this:

What are the odds when corrupting a jewel for it to become a Unique? Is it 25%, as there are four potential outcomes, or is the weighting different? And can vaaling a common/magic/rare jewel give you a corrupted variant of a unique that is not inherently corrupted? Like if I vaal a Viridian jewel, can it become a corrupted Unnatural Instinct?

I may start using my Vaals on Crimson Jewels and pray for Rain of Splinters but would like to know what I’m working against.

[gritty basin]

Technically, #1┃crafting-advice would probably have a more substantial answer... but afaik the answer is yes - you can hit a rare jewel with a vaal orb and get a variety of corrupted uniques. I'm pretty sure there are some that are excluded, but idk which

IDK if you trade at all, but my usual approach w/ jewels is to list anything that's decent and vaal the rest - if it's trash, vendor it, otherwise sell it if I can

[unreal gust]

Ty General. I’m 100% sure that the two jewels I’m working with CAN be chanced, fortunately. But while Rain of Splinters is ALWAYS Corrupted, Unnatural Instinct is not. So I just want to make sure that the latter can be chanced by using Vaals

I do the same generally but I’m broke as hell this league and desperate for some upgrades 😂

I also still need a Corrupted Blood implicit so now would be the time to get the most use out of vaaling my jewels

[gritty basin]

Big mood, I've found two exalts and maybe 50 natural chaos drops, and ZERO DIVINES and I'm almost done with knocking out yellow maps on the atlas

[unreal gust]

I’m finishing up my whites and I have one Exalt drop from Act 8 But that helped me afford a cheap corrupted 6-link so no complaints, lol

[carmine vigil]

I’ve found 0 exalts and 5 divs

1 was from tujen

[grim basalt]

Ive found 1 raw div drop and I have 4 void stones

[carmine vigil]

F

My first div drop was act4 i believe

[grim basalt]

I've sold other stuff worth a div or two but only 1 raw

Haven't seen a div conversion allflame either

[carmine vigil]

Honestly the most div drops I’ve seen

Same

I also only gotten seer during campaign so F

[grim basalt]

I've never seen him

[carmine vigil]

Oof

Maybe post patch

[grim basalt]

Only once during aff

It's ok. I'm going to just delve this league to statt

Start*

With adorn prices being so high. The red city is worth something now

[gritty basin]

There's an allflame that gives sulfite when you take out the packs... and wow is it generous

Buy some while they're cheap (if you're in trade) but honestly hold onto 'em until you've put several upgrades into your storage capacity

[clear anchor]

wth, maintenance?

[low nymph]

we want this maintenance

[heady panther]

Big patch brotha

[tawdry plover]

The new patch is coming

[clear anchor]

I need 3 more seconds to kill exarch first kill 😦

[low nymph]

edged pretty hard there

[low shadow]

same

[low nymph]

hmm this maintenence is reminding me that i should eat something

[terse wyvern]

so like ... hi?

What do we do with downtime? like ... talk to each other?

[low nymph]

uhhh im not socially aware enough for that

[terse wyvern]

I got new shoes. I run super fast now

[gritty heath]

So you guys like corpses?

[terse wyvern]

...sir, this is a wendys

[low shadow]

lol

[stone nymph]

crispy corpses

[gritty basin]

It's 1am... do I sleep and play in a few hours, or are we goin' all night

Decisions, decisions...

[terse wyvern]

sleep? like that stuff babies do?!

[low shadow]

I need my ORBZ

[silver horizon]

how much time to server live?

[gritty basin]

Bruh I've been sleeping less than 5 hours a night since league launch, and if I wasn't sleeping then the game was up

(That's an exaggeration, but seriously - 74.6 hours logged since league launch)

[gritty basin]

~5 min, probably

The annoucement said 10 min downtime

[gritty heath]

So you have a mageblood right?

[dusk dew]

Lol

Fiending

[low shadow]

I hated this games gutz for a year...now I want to marry it

[gritty basin]

Dude I wish. Most of my gear is still what I used during the campaign

[gritty heath]

What were you doing for 75 hours then? Standing in hideout?

[dusk dew]

It’s all waiting room for eiyuden

[gritty basin]

Finished the A10 Kitava fight, started on maps... somewhere around t3 I realized I was still using my magic helmet from act 2

[low nymph]

patch is done. log in

[dusk dew]

What build you abusing

[gritty basin]

RF, and there's probably 10-20% downtime when I'm alt-tabbed working on things or making food, but the rest of it's been grinding maps. Essences and scarabs so far, and filling out the atlas

I'm not a particularly fast player 😄

[dusk dew]

Effort leads to success

[low shadow]

I tried to log in without updating....I have a problem

[gritty basin]

Same... and now Steam wants to validate the files

I think that answers the question of if I sleep now or stay online... sleep now, games in a few hours. GGs!

[scenic linden]

Are the patch notes live?

[soft grove]

How many family corpse are there the unique haunted ones?

[hollow wharf]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3502209/page/1#p25286234

[scenic linden]

I take that as a yes

[pine lagoon]

When does patch drop for console?

[lusty helm]

chefs kiss

[soft grove]

Anyone by any chance know how many of those haunted corpse they are ?

[lusty helm]

4 of each surname i think

[soft grove]

Ohh so 4 of each name ? How many names are there ?

[main sentinel]

20

[tawdry plover]

5 families

[soft grove]

Sheesh lmao so 20 in totall and 5 families Niceee I wonder what u get can get from it

[tawdry plover]

If u wanna spoil urself |||the uniques are on poedb|||

[soft grove]

Ohhh nice bouts check it out thanks

[soft grove]

Thanks I found them on poedb helmets looks cool like a old king crown

[quaint roost]

who at ggg thought this would be fun

[coral hollow]

I'm pretty new to the game and crafted an interesting item with necro and can't find anything for a price. Can anyone help me? I don't know if it's good or not.

[snow marten]

I'm curious if that'd work with destructive play.

[soft grove]

I need help from u pros i heard there’s a tatoo that gives more projectiles is that back ? And how much should one run atm to buy one ?

[snow marten]

That tattoo is not back

Not all tattoo's are back

[soft grove]

Ahh Damnnn… that sucks

[alpine sierra]

Can you make endgame items using this crafting mechanic or is it only good for bases?

[sharp stone]

Does anyone Know why I'm not able to collect corpses any more. I have only collected 4. I can see the corpse on the floor but not banner. thanks.PC

[jolly linden]

There seems to be a new Caverns secret room? Is there any guide to new campaign secrets and Easter eggs?

[violet nymph]

Magistrate haunted is so janky

[valid mist]

Just the ability to not RNG base type is a fucking godsend

I'm actually thinking about speccing into league mechanic now

at least for a while

[marsh oracle]

should I make a tree without unwavering vision just to get scarab drops? duno how much you get

[valid mist]

The big buffs to the league crafting mechanic probably deval;ue other forms of getting good rares, hrmm..

[shy steppe]

didn't drop a single scarab...

[hallow shale]

So yesterday I was like "I'm going to wait for them to patch this in a few weeks" and today it looks like they fixed everything?

League good now?

[dense rivet]

same thing happened for me and the catalyst one

[snow marten]

I had the div one.. I see people dropping 10-20 div in such maps.. and i got none

[pure prism]

hmmmm it says here that "Increases and reductions to Haunted Modifier Effect no longer affects Devoted Modifiers."
I have the atlas passives that reduce the effect of haunted modifiers and the devoted mod that gives more exp for the mobs shows less exp when I have these allocated for example when I'm opening a map, I even tried unspecing the nodes and it gives me more exp when I don't have them.

Am I missing something or is it bugged?

[bronze cave]

Is the ilvl of the item I'm grave crafting the average of the corpses ilvl, or sth else?

[slow isle]

so i can map sustain with atlas 1, and once i have lots of maps, i can farm with atlas 2?

[dense rivet]

yea you can do that

[valid mist]

god I get way more sulphite than I can spend

[fickle orbit]

where can i see how many packs does the map contain?

Is it the roman numerical number on the right?

[dense rivet]

if you are looking at the lantern that is showing the tier of mod, you have to hover over the mob to see the pack density. There is no number that will show but it will say stuff like very high or low

[fickle orbit]

Thank you!

[flat egret]

is there a link to theory about the corpses

i wanna know how to correlate chance to mod rating

[dense rivet]

have you tried craftofexile?

[low nymph]

i think someone named grimra created the video

[dense rivet]

grimro

[flat egret]

ok ill look into that

im using coe atm

i cant see that it has -1 explicit option

[soft coral]

Just read the patch notes and wow didn’t expect them to come out with this many fixes this quickly. Nice!

[dusty cove]

Jesus, shame at work look like patch is spitting fire

[ivory meteor]

currently running legion, im la/ele spectrum was wondering what atlas strats would synergize well with my build

[agile hemlock]

do the increased effect corpses stack on a single corpse? As in if I surround one with 4, does it get 160% increased effect?

[agile hemlock]

yes

[keen sundial]

hi so i want to farm more corpses can i manipulate the number of corpses that i drop via atlas tree?

[gentle cradle]

Hey guys, what's considered the best atlas strat for alch & go at the moment?

[severe bay]

is kirac missions glitched? i cant open it

[prime tree]

first time seeing this. i assume they removed the effects, but forgot to remove 1 (or more) of the mods that now have no effect?

[violet nymph]

they removed daily kirac missions

[dusty cove]

I like my Alva and go. Doubt it is the best.

[torpid turtle]

How do you filter corpses?

[woven steppe]

how do you search trade for monster level? wheres the filter?

[prime tree]

for coffins? item level works for that

[stable bolt]

"Increases and reductions to Haunted Modifier Effect no longer affects Devoted Modifiers." its on the patch notes, but I just tested it and the atlas passive nodes do affect devoted ones?

went from 300 something to 720% increased quantity

[edgy merlin]

there's a search bar in the window

[stable bolt]

not sure what's going on there

[twilit arrow]

so... how's the update ?

[torpid turtle]

@edgy merlin Yeah, i needed to clear my cache on the trade website in order for it to show

[edgy merlin]

oh I thought you meant ingame lmao

[prime tree]

big qol

also a bit silly maybe

[twilit arrow]

how do we proceed shall I give you my username so you can give me one of those ? :p

[twilit arrow]

that's great to see, I hope this is as good as it looks on the patch note. Will see tonight

[prisma ferry]

what does the "haunted by tychus" or whatever morgue mod do?

[dusty cove]

The order is summer after most common

[twilit arrow]

I need to write a note on ppl I block, I never remember why

[burnt osprey]

I'm getting tired of detonate dead. Are there any good mine skills besides hexblast?

[tepid canopy]

Is the league good now since the patch? Still haven’t started!

[fringe river]

Ha ent logged in to the new patch yet but can you somehow craft influenced bases with the new graveyard?

E.g. is it possible to make shaper elder bone helmet

[ashen storm]

Aside from shrines and strongboxes which league mechanics create "natural" mobs e.g. mobs that get affected by the lantern?

[snow marten]

Alva? maybe

Not sure if that even counts tho

[ashen storm]

just checked and the mobs inside dont get the league mechanic mods(which makes sense since they're not of the same race that mobs that appear in ur map)

abyss also doesnt work since that is the separate abyss mobs

ritual when the mobs revive they lose their league mechanic mod also

[thick torrent]

Hi all! 👋

[gusty hull]

How are the patch updates?

[ashen storm]

league mechanic busted now as expected

[gusty hull]

Yay!

[heavy oyster]

well, i was able to itemise my full morgue and sell all the non-garbage crap for 2div in 1 hour during my lunch break, so big improvement imo

[gusty hull]

Now I can actually play the league and get upgrades as I go.

[hollow nebula]

omg the leech feels so good on bone barrier now

[ashen storm]

you're gonna be able to shit out 6x t1 items every couple hours

I already made a 3x t1 ES shield before the buffs

[quick shadow]

what does the prospero's wager atlas passive actually do?

[dusty cove]

Essence

[snow marten]

Do we already have a list of the good corpses?

[ashen storm]

I'll check essence mobs

does essence actually add new mobs or does it just imprison existing ones?

[dusty cove]

Adds iirc

Probably not as good as just throwing more strongboxes on

[ashen storm]

Checked 4 essences and none of them had a devoted or haunted mod

but ye it's so few mobs even if it worked I'd probably be better of just grabbing some more map effect or something idk

[grim basalt]

Do higher tier maps have a higher chance for the divine one or should I mass buy and role t5s

[prime tree]

🤷 tbh

[stable yoke]

Anyone done league crafting since the patch?

[quick shadow]

frogs

[dense rivet]

I wouldnt use the new ones unless they fixed them but as vegetable said frogs

[round trench]

Anyone know how corpse level related to item level? Can't find anything on the wiki

[dense rivet]

the new ones don't drop anything

had 200% quant map with 0 catalyst drops from the core allflame

[merry flame]

Any juicy map strat not done by a streamer? 🙂 anyone can teach me? haha

[crisp frost]

is prospero's wager worth it?

[agile flare]

can the + modifier tier rating be found on trade site atm?

[pliant ravine]

just had big brain idea to put rogue exiles on this

holy

[faint ravine]

I hope you didnt forget to spec the scarabs from unique enemies atlas node

[low vigil]

Anyone have spare DD Chain Reaction?

[slow coyote]

Spare? I assume you mean for trade, since you're not going to beg here, right? Sure, there'll be some available for trade on the official site.

[low vigil]

I'll exchange my 6 DD of Scavenging for 1 chain reaction.

[drifting thicket]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[low vigil]

The odds are probably 20 Scavenging gems for every 1 Chain reaction.

[slow coyote]

That's irrelevant. There's no trading or begging here. Use the trade site.

[low vigil]

I should've bought one when they were 8c, but I thought to myself, it is 50% chance according to Ruetoo's guide, so should be easy to farm. How wrong I was.

[rustic dew]

Have seen many ele bow crafts, anyone figured out a way for a phys bow yet? Or is it too difficult to block all the ele damage?

[red wharf]

I just got 4 voidstones and 13/15 fav slots, how can I optimally farm t17 maps, specifically fortress for yoke amulet?

does it require some specialized tree, or can emblems help with t17 drops?

[plush robin]

so is necropolis crafting good now bois?

[plush robin]

lucky ass

i just get jewler orbs

[heavy oyster]

just tried it on craftofexile; takes 88 graves vs. ~25 for an ele bow. The big problem doesn't seem to be the ele mods, but the amount of tier modifier corpses you need to get good rolls vs. an ele bow (12-15 vs 5-8)

[west pond]

how do you get Monstrous Treasure this league?

[pulsar juniper]

atlas passive

[pallid zodiac]

anyone know how to filter by corpse level when searching for corpses in trade??

[visual wyvern]

If you close the Lantern interface while loading a map - how do you get it back up?

[pallid zodiac]

just click the map device again

[visual wyvern]

nope - not bringing up the UI

[potent zephyr]

fuck this league mechanic im never crafting again

[mossy matrix]

What did you expect by not giving any tiers?

[pseudo juniper]

Gotta be satire.

[woven venture]

First time crafter problems.

[sonic stirrup]

Looks like you got what you wanted?

xd

[drifting tulip]

Hello, I've seen it a couple times, but not sure if it is just a rare modifier or is gotten from specific monsters, but is there a way to target farm minion scarcity/chance modifiers?

[mellow sun]

Can I not craft pneumatic daggers or void fangs using the league mechanic? 😕 I was really hopeful with the patch that would be possible, but I don't see them in the list...

[woven venture]

Special bases are... special.

You'll need to farm them in Heist and craft normally.

[mellow sun]

Oh, OK.

[sonic stirrup]

That would basically make heist worthless

[mellow sun]

I am doing Blight b/c my build is not the best for Heist, but can continue to just buy the bases from trade I guess

I just like to do things somewhat-SSF-ly if I can, as I hate interacting with trade

[visual wyvern]

Sorry for the duplicate question - just seeing if anyone knows an answer.

If you close the Lantern interface while loading a map - how do you get it back up?

[cobalt flower]

how j can filter allflames on poe trade with monster levels? im trying to add stat "monster level" but nothing finds after it

[wraith saffron]

does a spell trigerred by kitava thrist give the 50% chance to trigger another spell ?
or the 0.1second cooldown prevent it ?

[west pond]

which??

[waxen radish]

Hi, I dont see the recipe for black morrigan for 6link? How do i discover it?

[dense rivet]

adding attack also increases phys dmg chances and also add modifier tiers next time

[tepid canopy]

Can anyone let me know what size the update patch is on steam please?

[slate vigil]

Well the chromatics is not a rare drop. Also, can someone explain how these bishops work? Is it really better to put the best mods on top when they appear?

Oh wait, I see now

[sonic stirrup]

153 MB for me

[agile cedar]

How bad is the single target for RF chieftain? League started explosive trap of shrapnel trickster and didn’t really like how squishy it was so I’m switching over, but I’m worried about not being able to do map bosses or kill rares

[tepid canopy]

Cheers!

[grim basalt]

I mean depends on how you scale it

Usually you also use fire trap for single target

But there's def an upper limit

[stable ember]

hey guys i got the nameless seer mod on my map , i cleared everything but he isnt on my map

i got the perma delirum
maybe it bugs it?

[tepid canopy]

What builds are people running this league? I’m trying to choose between explosive arrow and detonate dead

[rustic dew]

Damn, there isn't even that many graves, no? Phys bow is less popular to begin with but not also more expensive to craft, I feel cheated as a poor bleed bow glad. :S

[violet nymph]

DD > EA, but real chads play Specters

[west pond]

does qual on Frenzy gem increase my attack speed in general per frenzy charge, or my attack speed with Frenzy particularly?

[violet nymph]

Just Frenzy

[west pond]

thank you

[violet nymph]

It's a local mod

Frenzy would be fucked if it just gave you a free passive buff for slotting it in

[west pond]

yeah that's what i figured

[rich saffron]

Hi! Anyone knows how to turn on pantheon passives from divine vessel? As I know it can be selected in this patch

[peak hemlock]

can anyone help me with a t13 boss (no maven, just a lot of regen) , need for atlas

[lusty helm]

hmm, do the allies from the necropolis "converts on death" count as minions?

[slate vigil]

Inconvenient but potentially super strong modifier. So many potential spirits too

So many free rare items

[idle nimbus]

Can anyone tell me where I get the detonate dead chain reaction gem? I've looked online and it suggests merc labs. Is it just a gem drop from running them?

[torpid quail]

are the increased tier corpses now very rare?

[slate vigil]

👀 hmm

[solemn reef]

If you use 4 of the 4 link crafts and 1 of the 5 link crafts does this guarantee a 5 link item (assuming it has at least 5 sockets)?

[lusty helm]

when you finish the lab, there's an altar where you can modify a gem. one of the options is to change a gem into a transfigured gem of the same color. That's what you want.

[idle nimbus]

Thanks. And it can be any blue gem? Doesn't need to be the original detonate dead?

[lusty helm]

correct. i hear theres also an option to transfigure a specific gem in the upper tier of the lab, but I've never seen it

[old tulip]

best software that definitely updates itself the way it should

loving having to fresh install pob every league

[slate vigil]

Never happened to me

[cyan kettle]

what does "itemise corpse" mean?

[old tulip]

turns it into a tradeable item

what builds use sword and shield

[placid meadow]

Is there a way to filter by monsterlevel for allflames?

in poe trade, I mean

[grim basalt]

I-level

Item level

[placid meadow]

wait, it's item level?

wow

[grim basalt]

Yeah

[slate vigil]

You would think that for something that's so common in medieval warfare, that concept is actually quite rare in PoE so who knows

Hardcore might be a start

[terse otter]

They nerfed something about boneshatter builds this league, right? What was it?

[lusty helm]

why do people keep messaging me to buy efficient training and then declining invite... specifically that item, multiple people...

[slate vigil]

I feel like the necropolis locker is a myth, it's not real, it won't hurt me even if I want it to

[grim basalt]

Lmao

Necropolis is love

[slate vigil]

It's clearly not in town. Didn't find it in the graveyard place, maybe it's at hideout?

[exotic jolt]

U need to place it in your hideout

[slate vigil]

Hideout exclusive utility. Great

[lusty helm]

the only time you really need it is when you're placing embers and you can place them from the stash in the menu

[slate vigil]

Act 4 appears devoid of common farming spots for this league mechanic specifically

[cunning yoke]

Why would anyone farm for the league mechanic in act 4

[slate vigil]

Why would anyone do anything when the option normally exists?

And "farm" isn't really the right word here

More like, passive income as you progress through the acts and something useful to put your allflames into while you're at it

Actually returning to the area isn't the main concern

[cunning yoke]

There's basically never passive income through the acts past day 2 or 3?

Only recent exception I can think of is TotA with whatever drop you needed to access the mechanic

[slate vigil]

So, there is usually passive income on day 1 up to day 2?

[cunning yoke]

Passive income in that more items are sellable day 1/2, yes

But it's rarely, if ever, due to the league mechanic specifically.

[slate vigil]

I dunno about that, I can't be bothered to sell things day one even if I found it

[cunning yoke]

I mean, whether you can be bothered or not is completely independent of the facts that more items are sellable. "Passive income" doesn't really exist in PoE to begin with, so I'm not really sure what your point is in general

[slate vigil]

One thing I have noticed is that it's really unpleasant to speak to people who make claims like these... just take your multi divine farming strategies elsewhere. Your mind is occupied by nothing but trying to make the best possible build farming the most rewarding kind of content instead of actually having fun casually farming lower end content

If I want my 30 chaos orbs through farming acts and call that passive income, what gives anyone the right to say I'm wrong for thinking that way?

[gusty wasp]

Damn 0 on market, must be a rare drop?

[slate vigil]

Maybe see whats on standard and price it higher than that

[lusty helm]

definitely seems like something that would be very popular in the current meta

[cunning yoke]

Yeah, I don't do that. I'm literally in mid tier yellow maps and play for like 2-3 hours a day.

[cunning yoke]

The fact that you're using terminology incorrectly makes you difficult to understand, but you are correct in that you're allowed to think/feel whatever you want.

[slate vigil]

Without passive selffarmed loot from acts, you won't have anything to build your character to be ready for maps with

[cunning yoke]

Nothing in this game is passive is my point. Literally the entire game is active. You can't make money by doing nothing, it is literally impossible in this game, ergo there is no such thing as "passive" income.

[slate vigil]

Passive income is what made me able to push into maps in my earliest PoE days

[cunning yoke]

No it didn't, because it doesn't/didn't exist. Currency gained via progression is not passive by any definition except for yours, apparently.

[slate vigil]

You seem to be awfully upset by me using the word "passive"

[cunning yoke]

Call it what you want, but don't be surprised when people are confused why what you're saying. If I start calling bread pizza instead, folks are gonna be confused.

[ashen storm]

Killing mobs and getting items from the mobs is clearly passive

[cunning yoke]

Super passive bro

[slate vigil]

What I mean by passive is not having to put a lot of effort and purposfully go out of your way to farm something. Passive in acts according to my broken terminology is be able to find drops while pushing from one end of the area to the other and by casually engaging with the league mechanic

[lusty helm]

I mean, play RF and its basically passive

[cunning yoke]

You just described LITERALLY the entire game. Like, literally.

With the exception of endgame juicing maps

[slate vigil]

Mirage archer is half passive so, yeah, that also technically counts

[ashen storm]

does meatsack or a ghosted rogue exile with seance have more iiq/iir?

[lusty helm]

only half counts

[cunning yoke]

I think the jury is still out on this, I've seen people saying each one is better than the other

[ashen storm]

ye same

[slate vigil]

So you're implying there is no such thing as passive income in PoE? Great. That makes it even easier to understand what I mean, but clearly you don't so...

[ashen storm]

closest thing to passive is afking blighted maps on a summoner id say

[slate vigil]

and active is literally everything else? So there is no semi passive or semi active?

[cunning yoke]

So you're implying there is no such thing as passive income in PoE?

I'm not implying it. I flat out said it just a few minutes ago, lol

[slate vigil]

Like, literally no inbetween?

[cunning yoke]

No, there is literally no inbetween.

[slate vigil]

Then make up one

[cunning yoke]

There is only actively playing the game if you want to make money

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slate vigil]

You can't be far active or far passive

Umm, that didn't sound right

[ashen storm]

yes

[cunning yoke]

Imagine, something you said didn't sound right

[slate vigil]

Imagine policing words from someone whose not native

[cunning yoke]

I'm not a native speaker either

[slate vigil]

Would you be happier if I said I wanted to gain active campaign income?

[cunning yoke]

Which is why, shockingly, words being easily understood is important lol

[silver kettle]

I'm guessing the word that might make everyone happy here is "incidental"

[slate vigil]

Incidental?

[cunning yoke]

Meaning it happens regardless of whether you're doing it intentionally or not

[slate vigil]

I suppose

But I haven't heard that word enough to use it

[glossy swan]

I was hoping the grave drops would change to a hover-over type drop instead of the GUI popping on the screen :/

[slate vigil]

I just think of the word incident and think, yeah incidental doesn't make sense. Oh god... English, why you do this

Would I be able to say I want more incidental income from act 4 necropolis mechanic?

[neat rover]

a lot

what ilvl tho

[gusty wasp]

83

[neat rover]

thats nice

big money

[gusty wasp]

Do you have an estimation in mind?

[neat rover]

no, but i wouldnt price it under 20 div thats for sure

you can get more

[slate vigil]

Now I'm genuinely curious

[lusty helm]

they're the same root, the latin "incidere", which means "to fall upon"

[valid mist]

so I actually got around to looking at the league uniques

and holy hell are these dogshit, or am I just missing something?

The gloves and jewel might be pretty good

I assume the jewel is meant to be the 'chase' unique

[slate vigil]

The number of monster types in zones in act 4 seems to be the problem

Adding 1 or 2 native monsters to those zones might support the league mechanic better, but that's probably not gonna happen mid league

[valid mist]

What's the problem with different monster types?

Doesn't that only affect the modifiers that call out 'of blah monster type', which there aren't really any that matter for

and definitely not in act 4

[slate vigil]

Most zones in act 4 has 2-4 monsters native to their zones, resulting in only 2 league modifiers to choose from, resulting in less rare choices, effectively cutting potential earnings from those zones

Circles are areas with like 2-4 monsters or at the very least 2 - 3 modifiers that don't roll well, X's aren't rollable

[lusty helm]

yeah most leagues arent really built to reach their full potential in the acts

[slate vigil]

Technically the aquaducts can be rolled, but only from one way which closes once you leave the sceptre of god

[lusty helm]

interestingly when hte league launched you could roll those zones from town but if anyone else went through the door while you were placing the modifiers it would reset on you. Their bandaid solution was to just make the zones unrollable

[slate vigil]

Yes but that's not the problem here. First 3 acts you get used to having plenty of options to customize it, then you get thrown into act 4 and feel starved. I swear this is not the first time act 4 has been acting up with league mechanics

There may be something inheritely wrong with act 4

[lusty helm]

not really 'wrong' just 'not a match' Simply wasn't designed with mob diversity in mind

[slate vigil]

That might be the case

[lusty helm]

and the 'dream' zones are kinda small to boot

kind of a small act in general, especially compared to the monster that is act 3

[slate vigil]

Yeah, perhaps one day we can get a normalization of act 4

[lusty helm]

we'll get a completely different act 4... in poe2

[noble jasper]

can some one tell me a build to start

[lusty helm]

ea ballista champ

[noble jasper]

bow champ

[lusty helm]

technically yes

[slate vigil]

You would have better luck just searching one up

Belly of the beast seems to get back on course for the league mechanic

[full zenith]

someone wants to do maps?

[split iris]

any Splitting Steel gamers?

[turbid gyro]

Anyone having decent luck selling meatsacks on trade?

Rater not use tft

[valid mist]

What is tft

[turbid gyro]

The forbidden trove, th Black market of Poe lol

[rustic dew]

What's the usage of the meatsack alflame? it cant be just for specters?

[valid mist]

Did they add an auction house

[storm socket]

Hi i want to play a infernal blow build, you think what is the better ascendancy for that please ?

[valid mist]

You put it on strongest monster concerts items with rarity to X

[rustic dew]

What does giving HP to a monster with high rarity do? Do mosnters with more hp drop more/better items inherently?

[turbid gyro]

@rustic dew massive bonus on div explosion

[valid mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/261523438017970177/1224630724938829894/image.png?ex=661e313d&is=660bbc3d&hm=4baf80ff2996b636c0f32f37c2ccc5b5703c5901fbecf7e251e27253ed3c892e&

[turbid gyro]

And that as well

[valid mist]

I used on on scarabs

[turbid gyro]

Ppl getting 10 div explosions as well

[rustic dew]

So the devoted has to be monster have % chance to drop something?

[turbid gyro]

Yes

[valid mist]

This as only yellows too iirc

You want it to be strongest monster in pack X

[rustic dew]

Okay thanks, never seen scarabs or divs, only chaos so far on devoted.

[turbid gyro]

High end meatsack were going for 1.5/2 div

But I haven't had any buyer's today at 1.5

[valid mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/552615024393322506/1224629098765353032/image.png?ex=661e2fb9&is=660bbab9&hm=b4bc99d117caead33d474199b2d1860aaf00ae7a611aac67b6af2fe8505494e1&

[rustic dew]

I see, I think I have never seen that, or noticed it.

Wouldnt that be better with the anarchy one?

Every rogue exile is a pack of its own, no?

[valid mist]

No

Pack size 3-8

[rustic dew]

Okay, lots to learn with this league mechanic sitll, largely ignored it until last patch

maybe the atlas passives are worthwhile getting then

[turbid gyro]

Corpses are selling really well also

Some good high end ones

[valid mist]

I allocated into atlas passives cause corpses got super buffed. Price checking is a huge pain though

[rustic dew]

I just dumped them intoa quad tab without prices and onyl one i got messaged for was resistances 300% scarcer, so that must be in demand

[valid mist]

At least before you start just collecting high end

[rustic dew]

the haunted unique ones are bad though right? I just tried it once and the unique item was 1c

[valid bloom]

so, necropolis crafting.. if i want a 5 affix item so i can craft the remaining affix, should i set the item for 5 affixes, or should i still go for 6 affix to maximize chances of getting good affixes?

[valid mist]

I mean... 5.

Why would you go for six?

You'd have to annul.

And then you'd have to hit the one bad one anyway

[final umbra]

What's the deal with Allflames? Are they like, worth anything?

[valid mist]

Some of them are, high level meat sacks for instance

Presumably ones that can be used in t16 or 17, unsure on the all flames level range

[final umbra]

huh interesting

I got one that turns packs into rogue exiles

[valid mist]

Don't know the use case for that

For meat sacks, you use them when you get a devoted modifier like 'strongesf monster in pack all drops with rarity are scarabs'

Sounds like there might be a div card one too

Since meat sacks has a pack size of one you're basically condensing a whole pack of drops into one monster

So you get a rare one and if drops 40 scarabs

[lusty helm]

Rogue exile is should be great with anything that turns armor/weapons/jewelry into currency. Also with the scarab node that makes unique monsters drop scarabs

[candid jetty]

are the two side of the necropolis not connected ?

[valid mist]

No

Items are crafted from a block of graves that are all connected, so like

xxx
xxx
xxx

If you have

xxx
xoo
xox

The bottom right single grave is its own thing, gotta put one north or south to connect.

I think that's how it works at least.

[candid jetty]

Oh, alright. Thanks !

[fresh spoke]

has the patch for crafting happened yet?

[lusty helm]

Yes

[waxen eagle]

Anyone had success with chain opening maps fishing for divine mods?

If so, what's your strategy and how's the profit looking (putting aside that it's super degenerate and boring)

[valid mist]

I think that's why it force opens once you do. It's not like you can just check, then take the map back out and buff it up

[waxen eagle]

That's obvious

[valid mist]

I can't see how the math would work out unless the idea is to do it with really low tier ones.

[waxen eagle]

You just open the map, check for mods, put the next map in

Really depends on the odds, but with an atlas set up for it and using frogs/rats for each one you should get quite a bunch every time you hit it. I assume the mods are less likely on low tier though

Maybe find a sweet spot like t12, mass bulk buy and go

tempted to waste a few divines on it just to prove how incredibly poor this league mechanic is and I hope they remove divine from rewards lol

[valid mist]

What's the divine rate?

[turbid gyro]

Scammed 😦 no div drops

[waxen eagle]

I don't know, there are no real numbers around

[valid mist]

You... Don't know how math works.

You want a high pack number

[waxen eagle]

I'm at 900k kills and I have 0 divine rewards so far, so it may be extremely rare

[valid mist]

Not a low one.

[slate vigil]

You can move the bricks around tho? Why are you putting it on the boss?

[valid mist]

It's not the boss it's a meat sack

[waxen eagle]

He put a meatsack on it

[valid mist]

You put them on devoted modifier that CONVERT

[waxen eagle]

That's like the worst you could do LOL

[valid mist]

Not raw drop chance

For raw drop chance you put the highest pack size

[turbid gyro]

Damn lol

[inland dagger]

is splitting steel of ammunition good?

[waxen eagle]

By putting in the meat sack you reduced your chance for divines from about 100% per pack to 5%

[turbid gyro]

Jbaited then because meatsacks are what is creating the conversations so I'm told

[valid mist]

Wasn't it just explained in detail what you want to use meat sacks for.

No you just have the reading comprehension of a lettuce.

[turbid gyro]

That as well

[valid mist]

I want to cry.

[turbid gyro]

I do have dyslexia

[hazy schooner]

I'm trying to select a "Convoking wand" in the graveyard crafting, but the only minion wand that appears is Convening. Am I doing something wrong?

[turbid gyro]

Why it's a game lol

[waxen eagle]

Anyway, gonna splurge 20 divines on bulk buying maps and see if I can get my money back. See you guys in a few hours after opening map after map

[valid mist]

Well if you get 20 per map and can get maps at 1c each then... Maybe?

I guess it depends on the dicv devotion chance

[agile hemlock]

hm, it's never going to be better to farm white maps than 8 mods, huh.

[valid mist]

Do mods affect pack size anymore?

You'd probably just buy as many of the highest maps you can get for 1c

And just do them vanilla

[waxen eagle]

Yeah, gonna look into low tier reds or something

[valid mist]

Make sure you have a good all flame and then just spam.

[waxen eagle]

But I guess 1c is like tier 9-10

[valid mist]

If you can expect 15 divs when it shows up that means the odds need to be about 1 in 2k to be a bit of profit

[waxen eagle]

So that's 2700 maps, let's assume you get one mod every 500 and I get 10-20 div

[valid mist]

And is anything but reliable

[waxen eagle]

Sound profitable just from rough mathing

[valid mist]

Is it really one every 500?

That sounds uncharacteristically too generous

[waxen eagle]

Isn't that the eater shrine rare?

eather divine shrine*

Or something like that

That's the problem, nobody really knows the odds on these mods

[valid mist]

I'd expect the div devotion to be like one in 5k not one in 500

[agile hemlock]

yeah, I think is going to be another flask rolling thing where the limit is your sanity

[waxen eagle]

Could be every 500 maps, could be every 5000 maps

[hazy schooner]

I'm trying to select a "Convoking wand" in the graveyard crafting, but the only minion wand that appears is Convening. Am I doing something wrong?

is there a corpse or something that helps improving the base?

[valid mist]

You need special corpses for the atlas bases

Like two tone boots

Or steel rings

[valid mist]

I'm more willing to bet on one in 5k than one in 500

[hazy schooner]

do you know the name of the corpse so I can look out on trade site?

[valid mist]

It's a modifier

[hazy schooner]

I don't understand 😦

[valid mist]

'item vase is steel ring. You need at least two corpses with the same name'

Or something like that

Just look 'two corpses' and you should find it

[agile hemlock]

there is supposedly a creates a minion wand corpse, but trade does something very cursed when you search that

[valid mist]

I suppose this does at least mean I should spam open all my white and yellows when I get to reds full time rather than just turning them into wisdom scroll fragments

That being said I wonder if the other usable devoted mods skew things too

Flesh sacks might not be worth using if you're just spamming 20 divs of vanilla reds lol

[stable yoke]

Anyone have any idea how many "reforge socket link...keeping greatest number of links" I need to guarantee it?

[valid mist]

Infinity

It's rng, there is no guarantee, just high odds.

[agile hemlock]

90% chance for six link is at around 2400 I believe.

[ember plank]

Just logging in for the first time after the patch. At the graveyard right now. So, I can choose what base item I want to make? I want an Unset Ring. So if I tally all the stats I want, I'll be able to choose Unset afterwards?

[agile hemlock]

ye, it's in the UI.

@ember plank

[ember plank]

mmk. let's see where this leads

[valid mist]

Why do you want an under ring?

Plan to corrupt?

[ember plank]

Ah. Gotcha.

[ember plank]

zoomancer build

HUngry Loop in one, Stone Golem in the other

Just following POB. /shrug

[waxen eagle]

So for my own sanity I'm gonna limit myself at 2000 maps instead. Showered, ready to bulk buy (oh, this is going to take forever)

[valid mist]

If it takes approximately 4 seconds to do each time it will take 8000 seconds

[agile hemlock]

do make a spreadsheet of sorts out of it for data

[valid mist]

Or about 2 hours and change

With spreadsheet creation time that is liable to balloon to more like 5 hours

[agile hemlock]

fair

[waxen eagle]

Yeah, I guess it will take me 3 hours just to open them

I won't do a spreadsheet, just note when I hit one and at which map and how many I get (if I even get any)

[valid mist]

Personally I feel like the data would be useless anyway

[ember plank]

alright. so apparently i need waaaaaaaaaay more corpses.

[valid mist]

Unless you hit it like 4 times

[waxen eagle]

Tier modifier is what you need, that's the most important one, else you just get low tier mods

[valid mist]

If we assume you get it one or zero times the best we could say is 'probabably fairly low odds' which duh

[ember plank]

I gotcha. I've got a bunch of level 50s and 60s

Probably best to toss those?

[waxen eagle]

But yes, a lot more corpses. These super good crafts are made with either a ton of divines in corpses or endless hours of farming

Yeah, toss low level, item level affects which mods can roll on your item

[ember plank]

Keep 78+?

[waxen eagle]

For most crafts you want 83 ilvl and then depending on what mods you wanna hit, you want to add some + ilvl corpses to reach 86

[ember plank]

mmk.

[valid mist]

Is it decent to try and force 6ls through corpses with + itrm level to grt a good base?

Or at that point may as well just go whole hog?

[ember plank]

Um, what about links? I've got a few 4 links in the 70s range and a 5 link thats 69.

Will thsoe levels have an effect?

[valid mist]

I assume the graft level is average

Or is it lowest in graveyard?

[waxen eagle]

Yeah, all corpses affect the outcome of the item ilvl

[ember plank]

wow. I've got garbage.

[waxen eagle]

But it's averaged as far as I've seen

[ember plank]

haha

[valid mist]

I mena you can still play around with the system and try to make something decent

[ember plank]

My highest is a 76

[waxen eagle]

So if you have like 10 83 and put one 60, you maybe drop to 82 (haven't tested, got no low ilvl corpses :D)

[valid mist]

You don't need to spend divs on a perfect craft

[agile hemlock]

you can cheese the ilvl fairly easily with the +ilvl corpses

[valid mist]

I'm personally wondering if I can acquire a good ilvl sadist garb 6l a bit cheaper with corpse crafting

I really need to get a better chest piece

Going into reds on a 5l ain't gonna be fun

[agile hemlock]

I am in reds on a 4link and having a great time

currently you can 6l for 140c using black morrigan + sth beastcraft

[valid mist]

What build?

[waxen eagle]

Can you get 100% 6 link with corpse crafting?

[valid mist]

I thought I saw that but it may have said sockets