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[torpid badger]

Hoping for a transfigured essence drain next

[sonic stirrup]

It's most definitely coming

We should get trans gems for all dps skill gems at least

[thorny pond]

I need a transfigured Dark pact

Like yesterday

[devout barn]

How hard it will be to get an alt q gem in the league? If I bring the same gem into all 4 labs I'm doing for my ascendancy, is it going to be a good chance of success, or alt q craft gonna be rare?

[thorny pond]

No one knows

[devout barn]

[torpid badger]

So fucking pumped for Friday, haven't been this excited for a league for a good while now, can't wait to see what ungodly builds get made

[silver kettle]

same

[devout barn]

Biggest power spike since crucible

[torpid badger]

I just hope they give chaos damage some love lmao, poison is so boring

[ivory perch]

Can tinctures apply to off-hand attacks?(probably not)

[thorny pond]

Yes they do

[candid solar]

replica chains of commands animated ranged when?

[sonic stirrup]

The node says weapons with an s

[silver kettle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452002#4

[devout osprey]

in english does this mean both?

[silver kettle]

but if you mean shield attacks

[ivory perch]

ok, I'm sorry, lemme clearify, >shield off-hand attacks<.(I feel stupid for not thinking of weapon offhands when asking)

[silver kettle]

ok

they do not work on shield attacks

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah shield is probably no

Oh lol

[high fossil]

Yes, it does.

[ivory perch]

Well then Primalist for shield attacks aswell.

[sonic stirrup]

Or click all but the tincture nodes, but yeah, highly dubious to do that lol

Can totally do it until you get good charms maybe

[ivory perch]

imo the other 2 ascendancies are kinda meh for most builds(or most builds that I play)

[flat escarp]

hey im still new and have a question

is it better to do endless tide or pick a beyond boss?

[bold basalt]

If you want to kill more monsters, endless tide, beyond boss guarantees some currency

[flat escarp]

alright makes since. but you arent guarenteed a boss right

but with endless tide you are guarenteed mobs til the end?

so there isnt really a reason not to take a boss if you can handle it

[frail prism]

the boss ends the mobs, and the mobs can drop div cards

[vital orchid]

Do we know what they are replacing alt quality gems with in heist? That was the main profit for me

[silver kettle]

there's not a direct replacement. from the patch notes:

also

[vital orchid]

Ah thanks for the help. I think I'll still try league starting it, always have been a heist enjoyer

[odd scroll]

how smooth is woc levelling, can i use old videos to follow?

wanna try woc into EK/maw

[somber prism]

I put the Transfigured Gem text on github to more easily see the difference between the original gems and new gems: https://github.com/Vindexus/PoETransfiguredGemDifferences/compare/original..transfigured?diff=split&w=

[visual stone]

so prob tomorrow we getting a patch notes about tinctures and all gems that are missing?

think im going srs guard since its a really nice and safe starter but at same time all i want is to play flicker with new techs that will appear

[full hedge]

Are you me

[young vector]

what are they doing with heist now that alt gems are dead

i heard rebalance of some replicas but not much more

what are the grand heists, uniques or the ones you pay for

[dim nebula]

I was going to make a RF BV build

feeling so anxious that neither of them have showed up on the transfig gems reveal yet

[icy fog]

pretty sure all the rewards are just mixed at the end now

like currency, enchanted bases, replicas and experimental bases

[potent zephyr]

When is it starting exactly

[sterile brook]

!leagues

[drifting thicket]

Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The Trial of the Ancestors league started:
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The Affliction league starts:
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This information was last updated on August 18th. The above should show in your local time if you have the right timezone set with your discord account.

[sterile brook]

In 2 days!

[potent zephyr]

So Friday

Why is console late

[high fossil]

Because deployment of patches has additional stages of approval through the console ecosystem

Whereas for PC they just send it out when it's ready

Well, "ready", some leagues...

[tiny sentinel]

guys is poison srs dead this next league?

[stable basalt]

just saw a build for corrupting fever champion this league looks like i found what build im running

also could someone help me find a lootfilter that works? i tried installing one but it wont show up and i cant activate it

[severe trail]

anyone have a arc totem build pob?

[jaunty parcel]

Are arc traps a thing again?

[quick dragon]

What y’all think about ball lightning mine since we have ball lightning of static transfiguration

It will stay at one place and zap constantly

[maiden anvil]

afflcitgionfafflctionfafflcitoandakflaflkavjlvkajv

fettichiniaffliction

[alpine gust]

Hmm, is there a new replicas list?

[sonic stirrup]

no

[alpine gust]

Gotta find out myself by doing bluprint heists

[carmine pond]

From what I've heard it's believed arc ignite might be back

Everything is all speculation though

[candid solar]

looking forward Cwdt loop raise zombie fall sky. Attack of titan increased size minion.

[burnt lava]

do we have a sense of how easy it will be to transfigure gems? like if I wanted to build around a particular one, can I expect to get it in SSF or will it be prohibitively rare?

[high fossil]

That's not really clear yet. I suspect they're aiming for something closer to "fairly predictable" rather than "completely trivial" or "prohibitively rare"

[icy fog]

I think we only know replica covenant and badge of the brotherhood

[sonic stirrup]

Any lab will let you. But we don't have any idea of how easy a specific gem will be to get

[icy fog]

I assume the lower labs will only have like the change to same colour gem, or the transition a gem.

Or the pick 3

They said they want them to be obtainable in the story

In the ziggy chat I think

[mild ingot]

first we got woke gems

now trans gems

[icy fog]

Don't forget the S&M orbs from eater and exarch

Dom/sub

[wanton bridge]

Damn they dropped more new gems

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452554

[mellow beacon]

It's not all of them yet, is it?

[silver kettle]

no

there's still one more batch to come

we just decided to split the final batch into two

[mellow beacon]

Got it, thanks.

[wanton bridge]

Thanks Viper

[lyric ice]

Justice for Siphoning Trap
Justice for Spectral Helix

[pastel mural]

Sorry am I stupid or are all these new trans traps just straight upgrades

Especially lightning trap with the terrain chain and infinite pierce along with more damage and the extra trigger chance

[hard locust]

I wonder how many gems will be in the final batch; tons of big ones like RF and lightning arrow that haven't seen variants yet, should be a big one I hope

[tawdry plover]

The extra trigger chance is on most traps now fwiw. That's the quality effect

[tender ibex]

If there is no power siphon trans gems Im gonna be so sad

[somber prism]

I added part 4 to the comparison view here: https://github.com/Vindexus/PoETransfiguredGemDifferences/compare/original..transfigured?diff=split&w=

[violet nymph]

That makes sense because lab helmets were straight upgrades too

[wanton bridge]

Thank ye

[rocky nebula]

hey, remember that suggestion I made about a minion that's a copy of your mainhand weapon?

animate weapon of self reflection baby!

[high fossil]

sorry, they came up with the idea totally independently, so no royalties

got any other good ideas, though?

[rocky nebula]

yeah

[fierce nacelle]

Will support gems get alt qual?

[rocky nebula]

but it'll cost ya this time

[high fossil]

support gems are losing alternate qualities, and there are no transfigured support gems being created (for now)

[fierce nacelle]

thats whack

[rocky nebula]

RIP divergent boneshatter

I didn't see any transfigured boneshatter gems with attack speed, so I assume it's gone for good

[high fossil]

there's one more batch of gems, start praying and buy some mtx

[tawdry plover]

Boneshatter had 2 released already unfortunately

[leaden cypress]

i love how they are just tormenting Pohx with these lists

100% intended

[carmine pond]

Anyone know of a good build guide for ice spear? Think im gonna try splitting early and then transition to crit late game

[wanton bridge]

Ice Spear totems or mines?

[carmine pond]

What would you suggest? Most stuff I've seen so far has been cyclone coc with the occasional mine so I don't know much about either of those

[wanton bridge]

I'd say mines but mines are also a way to fast track into carpal tunnel syndrome

[carmine pond]

Which I'm already having issues with lol

[covert nacelle]

lancing steel coc ice spear eow deadeye

[candid solar]

so this mean your main hand is equiped will clone the animate weapon self reflection?

[covert nacelle]

uh

english

but yes

[candid solar]

and not need the bladefall correct?

[covert nacelle]

correct

[candid solar]

sorry not my first time english.

[carmine pond]

I kind of have a deep hate for the whole shard mechanic so I'd rather just go for cyclone at that point

[covert nacelle]

lancing steel of spraying

[rotund surge]

I don't have time to look all over these "new" gems. Are the changes to most gems minimal or substantial?

[high fossil]

most make substantial changes to how the gems function, but not all of it is new content

for example, there's a summon skeletons tranfiguration that summons skelly mages, and an EK that fires in a nova

but there's also a whole bunch of really interesting new variations as well

[rotund surge]

thanks for the answer ❤️

[primal halo]

should i try ssf this league? im gonna be playing Lightning Arrow Deadeye

[winged wedge]

LA is all about moving quickly through maps and mowing down everything. Which means you quickly get to higher content and you get a lot of loot as long as you stay alive. And in SSF more loot is gooder

Amd bows and bow skills in general have the damage and clear, so you can craft gear yourself if you have a plan. Only potential headache is bosses - you need good gear to get tankiness and DPS for the bigger boys

[wind kernel]

haven't played in a long time, so I'm really out of touch with what PoE is like... these tinctures seemed interesting at first but thinking over them they seem kinda lackluster, am I just being silly? Like how significant is all damage can ignite/poison, or stun on full life, or culling strike be compared to a flask slot?

[winged wedge]

It all depends on your build. If you use a weapon, something like culling (free 10 % more damage against big enemies) and "every hit can poison" is impactful. And getting extra charges and 30 % inc effect for two flasks is definitely strong, especially when your flasks are ideal for your build

And if you already have a build that can spare having one empty flask slot and only three flasks, you can now get the benefit from the Traitor keystone on top of 75 % inc effect of your tinctures, which will likely be busted for some build and tincture combos

[wind kernel]

the traitor doesn't really work well with tinctures right, cause the flask slot is no longer empty

or I guess you mean

[winged wedge]

three flasks, one tincture, one empty slot

[wind kernel]

you benefit from flask charges from 1 empty slot, combined with inc effect from tincture

ah I see

[winged wedge]

AND you can use a microdistillery belt

"Can't use Flask in Fifth Slot
Flasks applied to you have 30% increased Effect" Hoo boy

[wind kernel]

hmm alright

[winged wedge]

So GGG definitely understands that you should get compensated if you give up a flask slot for a tincture

[wind kernel]

do you happen to know any interesting flasks that might be worth all that increased effect, other than ones like maybe bottled faith for more damage (though I guess inc effect also scales reduced duration on that right?)

[winged wedge]

Progenesis will be very expensive but can get absurd with this. You will have one life flask giving you constant massive life regen to deal with damage over time, while a huge percentage of damage you take from hits will now be spread out over 4 seconds.

[wind kernel]

right, that'd be crazy, alright I definitely underestimated tinctures

[violet nymph]

Progenesis and dying sun

Or taste of hate

Will be pretty cracked

But that ascendency is meh compared to charns

Even with what we've seen so far. And if there's proj charms it's gg

[winged wedge]

It depends on how many wisps you get, how often the charm vendor rerolls, what charms mods there are and how expensive they are. So Primalist is likely what most builds will gravitate towards over time

[wind kernel]

ahh, I'm still catching up a lot on what I've been missing

I briefly played a few months ago, but before that hadn't really played in like a year

so haven't even gotten around to looking at the new league ascendancies

[winged wedge]

Warlock first for move speed if you can give up the sockets. Then Warden for tinctures, and then Primalist when you find/can afford to buy the right charms

Yeah no this league has the potential to reach unnerfed Harvest power

[visual stone]

Where is RF GEMMMMM

[random mist]

to get to the maps faster should I do every quest in the campaign, or rush to the end and then clean up with stronger character?

[narrow salmon]

Is the Volatility Arma Brand probably the go-to for ignite? Been wanting to ignite arma brand for a long while now since they nerfed it forever ago

[carmine verge]

damn the Animate Weapon of Self Reflection is a dream come true

[alpine fulcrum]

for the new summon reaper gem, does that mean i can have 2 soy reaper and one big boy?

[alpine adder]

toxic rain league start? what do you say

[carmine pond]

Most of the quests require next to no backtracking so with proper pathing you should be able to pick up all your points while doing the campaign

[balmy moss]

I wonder whether putting in a gem into transfiguration thingy in lab will offer you one of the trans options of that gem as well as 1 random trans gem option as well

or just a random option or 2 every time

and I also wonder whether the 3 new ascendancies or a variation of them will be a new class in poe 2

Druid?

[high fossil]

I don't think they'd pre-cycle poe2 content like ascendancies into league content, it'd spoil the reveal at release. These might be some concepts they tried out and didn't have space for, though

[naive prism]

league start is in 1 day but I haven't seen the kirac's mods and challenge rewards yet

did I miss something ?

[tawdry plover]

Kirac mods were in patch notes but not sure of challenge rewards

[naive prism]

Ooo thanks man

[silent galleon]

So how are we feeling about tomorrow lads? Excited?

[honest trail]

Exited and very uncertain. I kinda wanna play ED Contagion, but I see no up-to-date guides for it

[silent galleon]

That sounds pretty neat, yeah I'm still uncertain about what I want to play

I kinda wanna play srs but I've done that like 3 times already. So I was looking at a zombie guardian build. But on the other hand I'm uncertain how zombies will feel after they took out the slam

I hope it kinda improved their ai a bit

But on the other hand I'm like fuck it I'll just play ea elementalist

[honest trail]

Srs is great, but I've also played it quite a few times now xD

[silent galleon]

I've done poison and fire srs before guardian rework

So it's tempting

But I'm like i dunno maaan

[honest trail]

Yeah there's a lot of things one could play

And even more now with T-gems

[silent galleon]

I've never really had much build diversity because I had a shitty laptop so minions were my go to and now I'm just so hesistant to play anything but stuff that's minions/ballista's/totems

It's become like a habit

[honest trail]

Reasonable

I also really enjoy DO Caustic Arrow

Not the greatest build

But extremely comfortable

[silent galleon]

DO?

death's oath?

[honest trail]

Death's Oath

[silent galleon]

right yeah

[honest trail]

[silent galleon]

Hmm

I got like a day and a half to figure it out

[visual stone]

all i need is to see how much gonna cost the surf board

and whats the trans rf effect

imagine surfer rf

https://tenor.com/view/silver-surfer-shield-surf-rocket-surfing-gif-9153394

ill be like silver surfer running around

[silent galleon]

But it's so expensive ;-;

[visual stone]

or surfer deaths oath thats a option too

[silent galleon]

true

or surfer autobomber

[visual stone]

yes

anything that u just walk gonna be cool

[silent galleon]

true

[visual stone]

and ofc im farming that beach maps

[silent galleon]

wasn't beach map taken out of rotation?

[visual stone]

idk i guess ill surf in desert then

or coral reef map

sand surfing is cool

can also snowboard in snow maps

[honest trail]

Beach 🪦

[primal halo]

whats a better strat legion or MF? im gonna be playing LA deadeye

[silent galleon]

I feel like legion would be way lower investment

[swift zenith]

legion for sure, the only issue with legion is that not all builds are good for it, LA is one of the good ones for it

MF is also quite expensive to start doing well

[low gyro]

the trans gem for fire traps seems juice for ignite even without the burning ground effect

[violet nymph]

new wildstrike looks insane

wtf

[winged wedge]

Those costs are harsh, on a 6L

Maraketh claws and Polymath is a start, of course. That and Soul Drinker basically makes it a Trickster-only skill on leaguestart

[dreamy raven]

I was trying the SRS Guardian but was barely doing dmg to Bosses
But I have seen video of it more with different skills

Help me figure out plz

My Build choice are

1. SRS Guadian
2. Lightning Arrow DeadEye
   Which one can be good build for Endgame , as I dont care about league start my end game goal is only build for doing maps and elders

or you guys can also suggest one

[violet nymph]

like regular pinnacle bosses no uber? both are good

both are like top 5 builds right now

[dreamy raven]

I mean anything in endgame

[violet nymph]

thats what i mean what do you mean by endgame

[winged wedge]

1 is harder to convert or respec into a zoomy/big damage build. 2 is going to be very popular and a little more expensive to gear up over time, but has nutty potential

I am also torn between the two

[dreamy raven]

many build i have seen are like after campaign will be changed to someone else kind comment

[violet nymph]

uber bossing and fast mapping are endgame but need completely different builds

[dreamy raven]

whatever comes in it as so far I have played campaign and tier 6 maps only

[violet nymph]

ok go with LA

[winged wedge]

SRS Guardian tapers off at level 85 but will still be endgame viable, but it will take work. Turning a LA deadeye into a TS mega-mapper is already an established tactic. Just be aware that it is squishier.

[violet nymph]

but if you want to finish atlas SRS guardian will carry you quite hard

[dreamy raven]

Yeah thats what I have heard as well

[violet nymph]

honestly if you're that new of a player Id go SRS

you can be naked and get to yellows

with just the guardian summon

[dreamy raven]

I'm targetiting getting all 4 voidstone, possibly fighting mavern/ubers as I havent made it that far till now

[violet nymph]

SRS guardian is good for new players

you can make it there it will carry you

[dreamy raven]

wont say totaly newbie but yeah have played RF in all Nov event and RF in ToTA

[winged wedge]

SRS Guardian makes for a dreamy, creamy and super-smooth campaign and early mapping. It is fantastic for new players. LA into TS is big damage and speed but you will have to stay more on your toes and regularly improve your bow

[dreamy raven]

BTW will be playing in party

if that helps

[violet nymph]

oh guardian will be nice for party

[dreamy raven]

my friend gonna be Boneshatter 70%

[winged wedge]

I would go for SRS Guardian, Mike. It is not "garbage" for endgame, and some of the new gems could help with bossing once people figure it out. And you will be a strong addition to a group!

[dreamy raven]

I C but does it do good amount of dmg to single target as I'm trying it in standard and in Act 4 so far boss dmg not good

[violet nymph]

you need sentinel of radiance

that will carry you from first lab to yellow maps

radiant crusade

read a guide bro

[dreamy raven]

Hmm. Yeah will try to use the new build of SRS from zizaran and see if I find it good playstyle for me.

[dreamy raven]

was trying GazzyT low budget one

[violet nymph]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/summon-raging-spirit-guardian-league-starter

[grim anvil]

Are the new big SRS spirits that crit any good?

[dreamy raven]

yupp thats the one am talking which is 95% similar to what zizarn showed. will try that

I was using thishttps://pobb.in/gLZhDGHWtQbD

[dreamy raven]

What about red maps?

[violet nymph]

thats when SRS will kick in

[dreamy raven]

Pardon my english but you mean shine?

Alright thanks both of you

[violet nymph]

that sentinel of radiance is very OP earlygame

but later you need SRS damage

[dreamy raven]

I C

[meager sierra]

Based on prior precedents,

Would Burning Arrow or Vigour (when used with ballista support) use the Exile's HP or the Ballista's HP when determining it's damage?

[violet nymph]

FR totem used totem HP and it was broken so im guessing that

is that how its worded

[meager sierra]

The burning arrow of vigour gem says the skillgem gets base damage based on 25% of your max life

Exact wording:

Deals Added Fire Damage equal to (#-24)% of Maximum Life
100% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire Damage
25% chance to Ignite enemies

[violet nymph]

the totem's life

because thats how this works

same wording

so totem's life

[meager sierra]

God, how would I even reasonably tell how much life a Ballista has

[violet nymph]

is it the same wording though

hmm

[noble python]

was sanctum nerfed at all apart from reducing drop rate of tomes?

[meager sierra]

Not from what I recall

Does anyone know what level of Ballista is made from a Level 21 Ballista support gem?

Trying to realise how much HP the Ballista would have for purposes of burning arrow of vigour

[violet nymph]

🤷

[dark pasture]

Anyone running carrion golem build this league? Whats the gem changes into anyine knows?

[glass seal]

They never tell us if drop rates were nerfed

[molten heart]

I wonder if this new warlock node that grants life instead of energy shield only works on hybrid armor/ES gear?

[thorny pond]

Why would you think that?

[molten heart]

well it says armor right there, but guess ES gear is "armor" too

[thorny pond]

It means equipment. Gear. Armor

[serene roost]

Pob has this info

[fallow mica]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555708248519344159/943458507846475846/output.gif

everyone tomorrow

[stable basalt]

so ready for league start whgat time approximately will it start?

[silver kettle]

There's a countdown to the exact time on https://www.pathofexile.com/

[stable basalt]

2pm est for me

[left oxide]

Hello guys

i skipped last league but this league looks amazing

what leaguestarter do you guys recommend?

i was thinking some flavour of boneshatter?

tho the bad thing is i do not like jug :/

[stable basalt]

if you dont like jug do boneshatter slayer less tanky more dps

[left oxide]

thanks

i heard we get league 2hrs sooner this time?

or was that a misscomunication?

[wary smelt]

Daylight saving

Also depends where u live

But for NA it's 2 hours early yea

[left oxide]

ah rip my place uses dst

so normal time then

[stable basalt]

iv got so many builds in mind i want to play lol

having trouble deciding which one i will do first

[left oxide]

sign of a good league

after so much stale balance they knocked it out of the park :p

[stable basalt]

from cA to bone shatter and SRS guardian

[random juniper]

anyone has experience with leveling a cobralash deadeye? im in the first 2 acts and trying it for leaguestart but compared to RoA it feels HORRIBLE. really horrible

[stable basalt]

aalso armourstacking jug or CF champ

[opal abyss]

It is horrible until you get the travel skill that throws out all the projectiles you caught

[random juniper]

i think you mean venom gyre

cobra lash is similar looking thoguh

[opal abyss]

Oh ya, you’re right! Cobra lash is the chaining skill.. I use that until about act 4 then switch to my actual league starter

[opal abyss]

It needs as much flat damage as you can possibly get in order to use it through acts 5-10. Really needs lots of flat damage to get through to act 4 too! But with enough the chain carries hard

[dreamy apex]

Is it sustainable to use SRS no unleash now with enough cast speed i wonder

or maybe still too hard to sustain 20 without unleash even with max qual

[tender ibex]

@fallow mica sorry for the ping, but are we getting distant pick ups? That gif kinda suggests that

[random juniper]

im j7ust struggling to get flat dmg in a leaguestart scenario early on

[gentle kayak]

any big brains staying up with PoE over the years know what build(s) might be good for just speedy general yellow/red map clearing? (not juiced and party play), just jump a map in and go. maybe farming expedition in maps or something.

i did an srs necro last time i played - a couple leagues ago, that became quite fast with some investment.

[random juniper]

lgightning arrow deadey

[gentle kayak]

teah that sounds sexy. u got any more details or just pretlty traditional LA + Mirage Archer?

[neat summit]

All I know is AW is kinda dead ... Literally no way to get lingering blades until you can get transfigured EK or BF

[dry kindle]

coc has been nerfed and mana hard to sustain from it but i guess thats what I'll do

[wraith mason]

I see so many ppl planing their build around trans gems and I am like "how do you guys know these won't be rare as fuck"

[civic violet]

They can only be so rare, since you will be able to get the alt in the lab.

Some may require multiple lab runs, but as far as we know, all are available at even the first lab.

They talked about a strategy of running the first lab for new gems in Ziggy's video.

[swift zenith]

some may be, but since we have the option change gem A to its other versions in lab, probably not as annoying or hard as it was to get that specific helmet enchant

what we dont know is what the higher labs will give as an extra, they left it open in the Q&A

[civic violet]

Yup and you will see the result each time and can choose not to accept it.

This is not Lab Enchants 2.0

[wary smelt]

Man I hope there more trans gems inc

Where BV....

[swift zenith]

as far as ggg said, there will be a lot more. But the closer it gets to launch less I have hope for that

[silver kettle]

There is one more batch coming

[wary smelt]

Now my hopes just went up

[violet nymph]

why do you guys need new gems? LA base qual is already revealed

[rotund patio]

How will Scourge Arrow perform in ultimatums? (PF)

[violet nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[violet nymph]

dogshit

people are in for a rude awakening for ultimatum

especially on bow builds

go tanky DD for ulti

[dry kindle]

how do you survive ultimatums time freeze?

[violet nymph]

nothing can happen during that time

[wary smelt]

The one where the entire game is paused?

[dry kindle]

he freezes all time, except himself so you are frozen while he keeps attacking you

[wary smelt]

Are u talking about trial master?

[south plume]

so whats special about this league except for the affliction gems? anything noteworthy?

[violet nymph]

in-map league mechanic finally

[south plume]

argh shit, is it a modifier thing this time around?

[grizzled moon]

3 additional ascendancies is kinda big

[dry kindle]

yea trialmaster

is there a trick to surviving that?

[south plume]

wait wait, hold on. new ascendancies? or 3 more points to put in??

[grizzled moon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/affliction

[south plume]

wait, did i read it correctly that you technically can have 2 ascendancies???

[silver kettle]

Yes

The Wildwood ascendancies are in addition to your normal one

[wary smelt]

Timestop Slam: "Ultimatum!" - Pauses time, teleporting and slamming the ground three times, causing delayed red Sunders
Timestop Projectiles: "Might of Chaos!" Pauses time, teleporting and creating three blood orbs that bounce off the arena's walls, exploding on impact

[south plume]

oooh shit. maybe i should play this league...
i assume this 2nd ascendancy will carry over?

[wary smelt]

Don't see a move where he just keeps attacking while ur frozen

[south plume]

cuz holy shit, if these carry over, double strike could turn wild 🤔

[indigo lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiJB3c-Sjeg

never change mbx

[south plume]

i promised myself i wont be replaying as marauder... but if i can have 2 ascendancies and perhaps make double strike viable... i might try it

[thorny pond]

That’s how I feel about berserker and rage cleave and/or the new rage vortex

[copper dune]

I am probably going to go completely off the rails this time and try something crazy. There are too many cool trans gems to try 😄
The Forbidden Rite of Soul Sacrifice looks particularly interesting as a CWDT engine. Since this one only takes chaos damage scaling from ES instead of both Life + ES, it will be much easy to manage just how much self damage is done per cast.

Flicker Strike of Power supported by Power Charge on Critical also sounds really fun. More build opportunity than with Frenzy charges

[thorny pond]

I’m feeling the new cold snap of power too

I hope they give a dark pact that just sacrifices life for a big aoe

And has nothing to do with Skellys

[copper dune]

Heck, I might just combine them and use:

• Flicker Strike of Power
• Multistrike
• Power Charge on Critical
• Cast on Critical
• Forbidden Rite of Soul Sacrifice

Then I could use a bunch of CWDT setups in the rest of my slots and rely on Flicker Strike as an activator

[grim anvil]

I'm curius about the new Reaping Soulrend that does hit and hits like a truck

[copper dune]

I love the theme of Dark Pact, but always ended up just using Forbidden Rite to achieve a similar goal. Although now, there is a Burning Arrow of Vigor gem that is a bow attack that scales off of 25% of your max life now too. So many cool life scaling options

[neat summit]

ye thats the problem ... this is poe ... they will be rare as fuck

so anything that relies on one is dead

like AW

[copper dune]

Except that there will be a flood of random ones up for trade because folks will keep searching for the ones they need. Farming the lab will likely be lucrative

so unless you are planning on playing SSF, you will likely be able to buy some of the minor ones

[zealous sentinel]

Boneshatter league inc(SSF)

[signal bluff]

Farming lab for enchants was terrible, there were so many terrible ones, you were way better off just farming other content that drops helmets with these enchants already (blighted maps, simulacrums, delirium orbs, incubators). I managed to sell maybe 3 lab-enchant helmets (for a divine or more). This gemcrafting altar looks way better

[copper dune]

exactly. You don't need to bring the correct base with you for whatever enchant you get. You just roll the gem and sell or use it individually.

[grim anvil]

If Blight of Atrophy works as I understand it works I'm 100% going to play it

[barren crescent]

Don't say you are on the "where RF" band

[wary smelt]

I'm not

Message right above that was me talking about BV

I really like BV but hate duration being required

[south plume]

man, i still cant believe devs are just giving us an ascendancy as part of a league lol

[sonic stirrup]

Version 2.2 be like:

Well, that wasn't quite the same, so fair enough

[south plume]

kinda building up hype before poe2 xD

[copper dune]

tbh, im more impressed that GGG is able to have success with more than one project in flight at the same time...

that speaks volumes about their work culture and recruiting practices

[south plume]

i gotta say, despite some leagues being utter dogshit, they do have a lot of passion for the ARPG genre and know what they are doing... and actually play their game. Kinda hoping POE2 will be what D4 could never be

[copper dune]

the mercenary showcase completely blew me away. WASD! finally!

[south plume]

im hoping dual wield is fun... i dont want a dual strike

gonna be amazing to play with wasd tho

i assume the lab changes for the gems is perma and not league specific?

[copper dune]

they were under the "changes to core" section in the reveal. So i'm assuming yes

[south plume]

oh yeah fair point

[pseudo hull]

we betteR GET MORE GEMS

WHERE ARTILLERY BALLISTA

[icy fog]

@copper dune there's also a good chance they will be adding more over time.

I'd assume at the very least heralds, spell slinger, archmage, arcanist brand etc.

They did say atm it's just main skill gems a few times

@pseudo hull I hope they make siphoning trap and conversion trap actually good lol

I'd kill for holy relic with like +2 relics no regen

[south plume]

bruh wtf is this shit???

    Quality now provides 0-20% chance to deal Double Damage to Bleeding Enemies, instead of 0-10% increased Attack Speed.

Devs, are you trying to nerf double strike when its already dead? bleed is dogshit!?

[icy fog]

@south plume you don't need to scale bleed to get dd

Just make them bleed

It's essentially 20% more damage vs bleeding enemies

[copper dune]

This league reinforced a pretty important precident. They are willing to remove a league mechanic that already went core. 👋 Metamorph
My hope is that some of the more obscure gems get axed to make room for transfigured versions of more popular ones

[noble python]

Anyone run Sanctum last league with Hexblast?

[icy fog]

@copper dune they've done that before?

[pseudo hull]

we better get more gems before league launch...

really irritating

[south plume]

i guess perhaps if you roll VAAL it has use, cuz the impale DS is way better

[pseudo hull]

hey guys we deleted tons of content that your builds relied on but also didn't replace it!

🙂 🙂 🙂

[icy fog]

That's a super odd take lol

[thorny pond]

Can’t make you happy huh?

[pseudo hull]

what are u talking about

[icy fog]

@south plume yeah but if you're using like vulnerability, you get chance to bleed right

[thorny pond]

Exactly what I said about your comment

[pseudo hull]

there's literally no reason for me to do lab other than to ascend they REMOVED content from my builds

[icy fog]

@thorny pond I have so many builds I want to play now this shits amazing not to mention all the borrowed power from the mechanic lol

[thorny pond]

Do labs sell gems

#profit

[pseudo hull]

raise spectres got nerfed again and the trans gem was an old unique gem that 0.0% of spectre players used because it was bad

they have no idea what they're doing

[icy fog]

@pseudo hull you don't even know all the lab changes yet.

We don't know every craft the font offers

[craggy pelican]

here's to hoping we get wand attacks today

[thorny pond]

https://www.grindinggear.com/?page=careers go apply. See if you can do better

[copper dune]

you clearly didn't watch the reveal.
try to roll gems that you don't have yet.
try to roll gems to profit
choose the XP reward to dramatically level up a gem you already have -- crazy good for awakened gems

[south plume]

perhaps, but it still is worse than the impale enchant. I doubt Double Strike will get more popular than it marginally is atm, but the impale makes it way more enticing for phys builds

[pseudo hull]

i only want to play the skills i like to play and it is distinctly worse to play those skills now

[craggy pelican]

idk maybe youre just bad

[icy fog]

@south plume yeah I'm pretty keen on the impale blade fall with that 10% base crit and impale on crit

[thorny pond]

If you say so.

[copper dune]

he's the type that would quit Magic the Gathering whenever standard rotates because he has to come up with a new deck idea...

[icy fog]

Lol

[south plume]

double strike gets all of its stuff on hit, except reflect which happens on kill

[icy fog]

I miss when vaal ds was meta

[craggy pelican]

losing glove and boot enchants kinda sucks but honestly, who relied on those for a build

[icy fog]

@craggy pelican boots where so nice

Were

[thorny pond]

Dem Bois!

[pseudo hull]

i think most classy magic players quit over a decade ago so that's really not a great example for your case

[south plume]

well tbh, it could possibly be a buff to VAAL with quality being chance for double dmg. even better if you get lucky with a high quality

[icy fog]

@craggy pelican I used to enchant regen on my animate guardian boots 😦

[pseudo hull]

mtg hasn't been good for a long time ...

[south plume]

although im unsure if regen or life steal will be better

[icy fog]

@pseudo hull that's not the joke

[copper dune]

I see that you are immune to analogies.

[south plume]

WotC hasnt been good in a long time lol

[copper dune]

the point is more that when content rotates... oh let's see for example... POE leagues every 3 months! Certain things will be better or worse. Trying to force the same build every league is innately not going to perform the same as last time

so you have to adapt

[noble python]

What are people using for Sanctum?

[craggy pelican]

not spark probably

[noble python]

lol yeah

[icy fog]

At some point this league I'm doing animate guardian of smiting with rakiatas and chains of command.

Probably as a champion and scale smite/wrath aura like lightning srs

[south plume]

well last time i tried fire double strike... but now i can try replica wings of entropy

[thorny pond]

Mtg is fantastic. But hot take

[icy fog]

@thorny pond the issue is how often they release new product now

It's just too much and I grew up playing it

[noble python]

MTG is releasing too many sets

[thorny pond]

Oh definitely. I don’t play standard anymore. I play casually weekly and mainly commander

[icy fog]

Started around judgement? I think

Now it's just too fucking much lol

Yeah commander, and like draft/sealed events is all I do now

[pseudo hull]

i thought MTG was good in 2000-2008

[icy fog]

100%

[pseudo hull]

mirrodon and dark steel was the beginning of the end imo

[copper dune]

increasing that length of standard so that it takes until next year to rotate was really depressing. what's worse is that if you want to play limited, you are forced to play with cards that are not legal in constructed.

[icy fog]

I enjoyed until after the Egypt set. Blanking on the name

With bolas

I used to play the shit out of magic duels in the xbox lol, I with they'd port arena to console I hate playing games like that on my pc or phone -_-

On*

Sorry I'm dyslexic as fuck

[south plume]

actually... do these gem enchants work with stuff like awakened?

[copper dune]

but the reference to magic was more that we have to adapt when content rotates. Whining about how card XYZ doesn't exist in the format anymore isn't useful. Part of the fun is supposed to be learning what is possible in the new meta. This metaphor directly applies to POE when leagues change up content. @pseudo hull crying about certain lab enchantments not existing anymore is silly. Either figure out another way to make what you are trying to do work or experiment with a different build

[icy fog]

@south plume I mean you can support them with awakened supports yeah

[pseudo hull]

ive been playing for like 10 years

[icy fog]

There's currently no support enchants or aura/herald ones

[pseudo hull]

i figured outwhat i like

[south plume]

no imeant make it awakened or.... other modifiers

forgot the names

[icy fog]

@south plume we don't know yet

[south plume]

argh dammit!

[icy fog]

@south plume there could be one that has a chance to make it go awakened

[copper dune]

I bet your wife loves doing the same position over and over again 😉

[icy fog]

I'm assuming they didn't show them all

[craggy pelican]

there are no awakened main skill gems and theyve said that there are no transfigured support gems

[pseudo hull]

@copper dune that's pretty rude and bizarre

it's a video game

[copper dune]

it's a joke about you being boring

[pseudo hull]

yeah but it's not really boring

[icy fog]

@craggy pelican that's not what he asked

[pseudo hull]

there's plenty of players in games and there's an entire category that just plays what they like

i forget their name in the MTG terminology

you can't just alienate that whole category

is it johnny?

i think it's johnnies

[icy fog]

They haven't "killed" that many builds even with this shake up though

Lab will still be lucrative

[copper dune]

yep

[pseudo hull]

they're not killed they're neglected

which is FAR worse

[icy fog]

Not really

[thorny pond]

Neglected?

Weird

[craggy pelican]

the only big nerf was spark losing like 50% proj speed

[pseudo hull]

when u make a new specific type of content

that entirely removes and alters large aspects of the game

[copper dune]

there are infinitely more builds that were created out of this changeset than those that were deleted

[pseudo hull]

but then ignore some builds while making the meta certainly other builds now

[thorny pond]

You can’t appease everyone.

[pseudo hull]

yeah you kinda miff the people of all those builds

[vast meadow]

looking at frenzy of onslaught, so for a flicker strike build, your going to get faster and stronger too?

[thorny pond]

The lab is large aspects?

[icy fog]

They're giving love to basically every skill gem

They didn't remove lab though it'll still be lucrative... whining about stuff before knowing all the changes is odd man

[south plume]

gonna pray i can make impaling DS viable for once. dont want to rely on fire dmg ;P

[thorny pond]

I think it’ll be fine

[south plume]

eh we will see

[craggy pelican]

i just want to see the 2 versions of KBlast

[thorny pond]

You can’t make everyone happy it’s impossible

[south plume]

at least i dont have to pop so much into ele dmg now

[icy fog]

I want holy relic with no regen and extra relics.

-_-

[south plume]

and no longer need to buy the twin fire gems

[elder whale]

no transfigured frost blades gems. rip

[thorny pond]

Yet

[vast meadow]

golem of hordes, is that just like 5 smaller golems?

[elder whale]

oh shit was that not the final release of all the gems?? well then 😬

[copper dune]

do we know if every gem will have 2 versions? It sounded like it could be anywhere from 0-2+ trans gems, but it doesn't have to be 2.

[thorny pond]

Why would you think it was?

[thorny pond]

No

[icy fog]

@copper dune 1-2

At least for damaging skills that aren't heralds

[copper dune]

some gems will have 0 alternative versions I bet

[vast meadow]

4 pages so far, i think they will maybe double what they have currently and just make it random so you never know what build you will have, ssf will love it

[icy fog]

I assume they will regularly add them over leagues too

[elder whale]

because it was the day before release. this'll be my 2nd league so idk how close until release time they put out info

[south plume]

oops marked word xD

[thorny pond]

Oh they will change stuff 15 minutes into a league if needed

[elder whale]

jesus lol

[thorny pond]

They have added stuff in the middle as well

[copper dune]

congratz! welcome to the game that you will continue to come back to for the rest of your life 🙂

glad to have you

[icy fog]

I kinda want the wave of conviction one from crucible back where you got dot multi based on duration

[pseudo hull]

if you make a new type of content that drastically alters a huge portion of the game completely changing how most builds play, you can't just neglect a bunch of skills

that's not allowed

that's a huge misstep

[south plume]

was saying im hoping the other DS affixes arent utter dogshit. Impale looks nice, and attack speed seems meh... unless they do 100% dmg conversion?

[thorny pond]

Is labs a huge portion of the game?

[pseudo hull]

yes

[elder whale]

thank you!! i'm a D4 refugee and this was the home i was looking for 😄 absolutely love the game and so stoked for this new league

[thorny pond]

I’ve only done labs 4 times per character

[pseudo hull]

threshold jewels

enchants

alternate quality gems

they're all gone

those literally dictated builds

[icy fog]

Threshold jewels died a lot time ago

[thorny pond]

No they ain’t

[thorny pond]

No they ain’t

They are called Transfigured gems now

[icy fog]

^

[copper dune]

ah, you poor soul. We were all led astray by the false profits of D4 (pun intended).

[south plume]

ah... im getting a bad feeling that awakened impaling double strike is unlikely xD

[icy fog]

I'm more upset of heist changes than the lab changes lol

I'll be pissed if I just keep finding shit enchanted bases in heist over replicas and experimental bases

[thorny pond]

If heist ever got rid of the dumb doors…

[icy fog]

But I'll still play em 🤷

[barren moat]

Is LA going to suck for ultimatum with its low defence?

[south plume]

oh wait, it wasnt awakened, it was divergent and anomalous

[thorny pond]

Scale@more defenses

[copper dune]

I want an atlas keystone that applies to maps and/or heist which just makes doors start open. I would 100% take that

[thorny pond]

I don’t mind requiring me to click it. But the time it takes the NPC to open the door just blows my mind

[copper dune]

I have died to a door boss (needing to click a simple door to open it) many times while kiting enemies

[south plume]

divergent impaling VAAL double strike seems very good? or i hope so

[icy fog]

@barren moat in b4 people using conversion trap in ultimatum lmao

I really hope conversion trap and siphoning trap are playable with the Trans version

[copper dune]

Welcome to 2023. poe is confirmed a trans friendly game apparently, lol 😄

[south plume]

i gotta say tho, i kinda wish trans affected some of the weaker VAAL gems to at least attempt to make them more viable

[icy fog]

@copper dune I got muted in here for having a character named Transgemder...lol

[violet nymph]

Enchants were majority just stat bonuses.
Threshold jewels were stuck being tied to the base versions of skills and could not be balanced properly independently.
Alt quality gems were majority just stat bonuses and the number of "builds" actually centered on taking advantage of those effects were fewer than the number of new trans gems by a large margin.

Trans gems basically took all the good of those 3 systems and converted them into 1 system with significantly more robustness in the system.

It's not that they neglected those systems by removing them. they took them out for a system that aimed at doing it's best at actually doing what they wanted those 3 systems to do in a better package for balance.

[icy fog]

Also having multiple systems that you constantly need to update when new skills come along is a lot for the dev cycle

Some systems like metamorph also don't age well.
Metamorph was only made so they could code poe 2 shape-shifting while still designing a league

[violet nymph]

Also, the game changes drastically patch to patch. that's just something you have to live with man. they can take anything you like in or out of the game as they please and have been doing so for years. it's nothing new and it isn't going to change.

[icy fog]

@violet nymph I used to main dp zerker I had to adapt hard when vp changed and zerker lost spell leech

Main*

[grand crow]

will affliction be better than ancestors

[icy fog]

@grand crow depends different people like different things over all probably yes

[violet nymph]

we don't know. but has a bunch of cool new build options and the base game is fun, so that's good enough for me lol

[high fossil]

That depends on how much you liked Ancestors

I'm voting yes though, for no particular reason

[icy fog]

@high fossil the ascendancies alone(mostly yellow) has my hype

[high fossil]

Oof, i know right. This is gonna be a 5 build league for me, minimum

[violet nymph]

For me, it's tinctures

[south plume]

im probably going primalist, but will have to see what will empower double strike the most

[rotund surge]

I know its a difficult question, but what you guys predict are going to be the best leauge starters?

[violet nymph]

all damage can poison tincture go brrr

[violet nymph]

same shit as last league in most cases

they didn't really touch old shit

some stuff was hit by quality changes, and that's about it.

[south plume]

well i guess that up to 20% chance to double damage with VAAL will work well for me XD

[thorny pond]

Caustic arrow looks juicy

[winged hatch]

Anyone know if there will be a way to trigger the warlock marks?

[high fossil]

I was about to reflexively say "mark on hit" and then i stopped and thought for literally any time. I suspect not, non-gem skills are hard to interact with.

[cosmic bobcat]

Surely my CA build will be able to do inv farming

[icy fog]

Saves you having to farm/use a pneumatic dagger + can use better supports/weapon types lol

[violet nymph]

i was going to be using it for SA

[gentle kayak]

what builds are very strong for uber lab farm? something with high armor and phys mitigation to just eat the traps, I think? And a ton of mobility, and very strong boss single target dmg (to burst - or wait then burst Izaro phases for max keys)?

[violet nymph]

you can just look at old lab runner builds

[icy fog]

@gentle kayak typically low hp, tons of speed and damage

Lots of flat regen

[gentle kayak]

interesting. yeah that could make sense

[icy fog]

If you have 1k hp and 1k+ regen traps doing nothing

Then you insta phase

Traps are %hp damage

[tepid cape]

Now this is prolly a bad question
Will casting the new Reaper of Eviscerating ( to make him perform his attack) gain the bonus from the new ascendancy where spells you cast (it has the spell tag) gain damage = to % of its life cost

[icy fog]

Doesn't work

[tepid cape]

🫡

[icy fog]

Reaper is only a spell because the act of summoning it is a spell

I'll word it better in a second

Basically since you're casting the repeat to summon it or two make it attack

The spell part of it is basically summoning it/commanding it.

The reaper itself is a byproduct of you casting the spell and functions separately on its own.

Similar to how you can't use like spell cascade on falling zombies or even like controlled destruction.

Even if it was a caster minion like absolution or mage skeletons it would be the same situation

[gentle kayak]

A general LA Deadeye might be a decent lab farmer? as long as i was strong enough to do single target Izaro, and smart enough to avoid traps.
It's obviously not min-max but if i wanted to do some uber labs wiht a LA Deadeye, I'm guessing it wouldn't be ass

[covert nacelle]

anything that runs fast is a decent lab farmer

[icy fog]

Any build can lab farm just depends how fast you wanna do it

You don't even need insane dps to instant phase him

[covert nacelle]

ideally you'd be fast, tanky (to ignore traps, especially against phys dot), and have the minimum dps to kill izaro (not a lot)

[icy fog]

We used to do low life GC mine builds back in the day for lab farming

[covert nacelle]

but really anything that runs fast is fine if you don't fall asleep

[icy fog]

You can have like 700 life and 2x Kikazaru and be fine on traps lol

Petrified blood also helps a fair bit

[covert nacelle]

ah right, they're percent

[icy fog]

My sc lab farmers used to have basically no hp.

Also understand if something is coming up from the ground in the Izaro fights if you phase him the phase doesn't end until that thing gets up to ground level

But he's pretty easy to dodge just running in circles between his cd

Also if doing the low life set up don't use minions or anything that he may attack so he's easier to predict/dodge his cleaves

[potent cove]

how do you scale raise zombie of falling dmg?

[sonic stirrup]

Same way you scale zombie damage normally

[icy fog]

^

[sonic stirrup]

Aside from that their attack and action speed won't be more sustained dps

[icy fog]

Traps and mines also are good

[sonic stirrup]

Instead your cast speed will be

Or rather, effective cast speed

[pseudo hull]

yes i know i play this game. My point is they made new interesting power to a bunch of gems but also not for a bunch of others and thats cringe. They even said they would too but it seems like it won’t be in time for league launch so that’s a pretty big letdown

[icy fog]

Baron str stacking would still work for lots of % inc

[sonic stirrup]

I'm wary about the double delay with such a setup

[icy fog]

I mean, double delay vs having tons more damage isn't bad.

I feel you'd still have other minions for clear

I guess not

You have mony

Monty

[sonic stirrup]

I really don't think you'd run this with a typical summoner build

Because you have no reason to scale their defences, for one

[icy fog]

Forgot about the explodes from monty

[sonic stirrup]

Nor minion attack speed

[icy fog]

Delay isn't an issue

[sonic stirrup]

Not much of an issue

Nor did I call it one earlier

I'm just wary of it

[craggy pelican]

We should be getting gems part 5 soon right? Assume they're gonna show more of course

[sonic stirrup]

Probably gonna appear tomorrow

[icy fog]

@craggy pelican in the next 0-24 hours lol

[sonic stirrup]

Less than that

[icy fog]

I know

[tepid cape]

Okay heres a fun question. If I have both of the new reaper gems, how many reapers can I have out at once
One Gem has a Maximum reaper limit of 1 and the other 3
How would this theoretically work if I tried to summon both gem reapers

[sonic stirrup]

3

It's probably going to either be 1 regular, 2 weaker

Or maybe won't let you

Probably just gonna let you though

[tepid cape]

^ this is what im trying to figure out

[icy fog]

I assume it would let you

[sonic stirrup]

I really don't think you can get 2 regular with it

But you can probably get 1 regular with 2 weaker

[fluid flume]

Guys did I really read that the new transfigured Hexblast doesn't consume Hexes and is an AoE spell now ? We can Hexblast spam now ? Am I dreaming ?

[sonic stirrup]

But it probably isn't worth it

[icy fog]

I was going to say the same

[sonic stirrup]

Because it's what, 2.1 total effective reapers vs 2.4

[icy fog]

It's not worth

[sonic stirrup]

And you're paying an entire 6l

Extra

[icy fog]

I would rather just use OG reaper while mapping and swap to the no CD solo boy while end game bossing

If I were to play reaper

[patent island]

WHEN AFFLICTION

[upbeat ledge]

tommorow ?

[dreamy apex]

are these times localised?

so thats my time right

[thick ocean]

in 20 hours

[dreamy apex]

also never played a launch before what are queues like

do servers crash and stuff

or is it usually smooth

[thick ocean]

@dreamy apex nah it's good, a very short queue at first, rarely any crashes

it's been smooth as fuck for the last 3 or 4 leagues

[dreamy apex]

oo kk nice

[high fossil]

There are some horror stories from back in the day, but GGG seem to have figured it out recently

[thick ocean]

i think it was 6 leagues ago or some shit

where they misscalculated

and the queues were horrible, and a lot of crashes

[high fossil]

Yeah, that was the last really bad one. But before that "i'll just start playing on day 5 when the servers are stable" was a pretty common statement to hear

[reef igloo]

do i go toxic rain or EA ele?

[proven thunder]

toxic rain is dope if you wanna do expedition

ea is great for sanctum early

[south saddle]

will the essence craft on the map device be available?

[reef igloo]

is sanctum still in?

[devout osprey]

yes

[reef igloo]

oh

ive never done one before lol

[dreamy apex]

standard and season char slots are shared right

[devout osprey]

yes, you by default have 24

[reef igloo]

what will be easier to make EA ele or toxic rain?

because i wanna map and do bosses

[devout osprey]

they are both easy, but EA elementalist has some rules, for Elemental Eliquiribium

[reef igloo]

and whats that

[devout osprey]

you cant have flat fire on your gear anywhere

or you will lose tons of damage

[reef igloo]

its easy to manage not to get it right?

i feel like i never do unless i play rf

or like elemental damage bow builds

[swift zenith]

kinda easy, you just have to keep this in mind when crafting some equips

[reef igloo]

okay

[swift zenith]

cant remember which, but take care when exarch/eater influencing your gloves, there is a mod for flat dmg there. Always have at least 1 more before using those

[reef igloo]

okay

i dont really use those

but i need to start though

[pseudo hull]

excuse me ggg i want more trans gems youre missing sone

some

[patent island]

WHEN AFFLICTIUNZ

[pseudo hull]

wait its launching early this league?

[craggy pelican]

torrent always drops day before i thought

[pseudo hull]

normally it is 1 pm PST

on friday

[devout osprey]

torrent is live

[pseudo hull]

it looks like it is earlier tomorrow

[craggy pelican]

its always been 2pm est for me

[pseudo hull]

11 am tomorrow

does NZ have daylight savings at opposite time of year or something?

2 hour shift from last league launch

[glad crag]

Hopefully more gems out soon

[dusty umbra]

always like that during winter league

[mystic crane]

do u guys think they will just keep some Tgems hidden in the pool and let us find out ourselves ingame?

RF copium

[winged wedge]

I am still angry GGG never considers moving league start early.

Like you are already launching on Saturday as far as NZ is concerned, so move it up an hour or two for the sake Europeans

[mystic crane]

its 3am leaguestart for me in asia

[winged wedge]

Sheesh, my condolences

[civic violet]

Doesn't matter when it starts, I don't until my kid goes to sleep, 6 hours later.

[glad crag]

It's always 8am start their time, if they have issues they have people at work that can fix it.

[winged wedge]

Make it 7 am 😠

"You guys don't have coffee?"

[pseudo hull]

oh yeah they do have daylight savings so thats why

so our time goes back 1 hr on west coast and theirs goes forward 1

for winter leagues

[charred quest]

How long is affliction gonna last

[lone acorn]

It’s usually 4pm est Fridays so it’s definitely earlier

[high fossil]

Around 3 months. An exact end date of the league won't be announced until they lock in the release of the next league

[charred quest]

Oh ok

[devout ledge]

hey guys where can i see the new ascendancies

[devout osprey]

https://www.pathofexile.com/affliction

click the smol images

[devout ledge]

ty :)

[leaden dragon]

preferred starting build?

[pseudo hull]

artillery ballista raider

shit is braindead and fun

[violet nymph]

So I have to consume one corpse per instance if I want to use Blood Hunt

[lunar yacht]

Wait is it per instance?

[frosty heath]

Ready for the first 6 minutes of league start

[somber junco]

the reason RF gem hasn't been released is

They didn't know what to do with it haha

[craggy pelican]

inb4 hit based RF

[swift zenith]

so, no final batch of gems

[high fossil]

Not yet

[true oak]

this season seems like it's really encouraging experimentation which is cool, so much new stuff

i'm just catching up on everything now, this season looks stacked

I only wish respeccing was a little easier/more accessible to try everything out

[copper dune]

fortunately, leveling a 2nd character feeding them currency and items makes it go waaaaaaaaaay faster

[true oak]

Yeah that's true, I generally only do one character due to time constraints for myself, but I can't wait to see all the builds that come out

having all these alternate skills and gems is extremely interesting for diversity

[winged mason]

do tinctures work on shield skills crush or sst

[high fossil]

No, unfortunately. Even when you use shields for an attack, they're not considered weapons.

[stable basalt]

anyone want to form a party tomorrow

[fleet timber]

What's w the vinegar

[violet nymph]

Raise Zombie of Falling Guardian?

Hey guys , i was an ImpD abuser but now i'm lost... , i'm doing tujen each league starts and idk which other league start that perform well in the same content , any suggestions ?

[high fossil]

Everybody knows that vinegar makes you win-egar

[dusk gazelle]

vinegar has copious electrolytes, important if you're using enough energy; I'm just surprised to see no salt. Eating salt separately? Salt+sugar+vinegar+other stuff is alright, if not super tasty.

[humble horizon]

I did that last league too, now gonna start with Caustic Arrow

[violet nymph]

Well i played it as well

didnt like it at all

played the death oath one

[humble horizon]

I'm gonna go without Death Oath, either some rare body armor or Covenant or Dendrobate or Cherrubim's Maleficence or Queen of the Forest

there's a new transfigured gem that increases the damage and poison chance of CA

[solar mulch]

Guys i really need advice which build in your opinion will be better for ultimatum EA elementalist or RoA raider from fuzzyduckzy

[torpid badger]

Will transfigured gems still be released after tomorrow or will they stop working on them after tomorrow

[high fossil]

There's been no info released about that. But if there's something that isn't ready for launch, but that they really want to be in the game, they can hotfix it in later. It's happened before.

[humble horizon]

it's quite possible that they will release some new content after the league launch

[violet nymph]

MineFall Zombian of Radiance login

[frosty heath]

apple cider vinegar in the water

[violet nymph]

microwaved and gargle it to soothe a cold

[frosty heath]

with the lemon juice + kiwi / strawberry drink packets are amazing

it tastes like drinking a fresh smoothie

[low fog]

nut

[ashen prawn]

do we have an updated atlas passive tree yet?

i know there wasnt much changed other than ultimatum

[inland nest]

atlas planner has the updated tree

[fleet timber]

Interesting

[noble python]

So

Hexblast anyone play it?

[arctic cargo]

debating on it

[noble python]

ahh

Have you played Hexblast before?

[arctic cargo]

nope

[noble python]

ah, ok

[arctic cargo]

havent done bossing in a while and though i might this league

[noble python]

I'm considering Hexblast because I feel Sanctum may still be good

[arctic cargo]

that too

[noble python]

Though I don't know enough about Sanctum relic drop rates to have an idea

[maiden mural]

I'm assuming they haven't shown what the challenge rewards are?

[high fossil]

Nope, not yet revealed

[indigo lotus]

@silver kettle hey are all the transfigured gems shown off at this point? I can't help but notice that reap is missing, and I thought all active DPS skills were getting at least one

[silver kettle]

Yes, that's all of them for now. As we've said, 1 for each damage gem is the goal, but we didn't get to all of them for this patch. There will be more in the future

[indigo lotus]

ah i gotcha

thanks for clearing that up

[somber junco]

THERE IS YOUR RF BUT IT SUCKS LMFAO!!!!

[high fossil]

New Viper Strike looks very interesting. Why poison twice when one gets it done?

[magic jackal]

Can someone help me with figuring out how to get my omni key setup and getting it to highlight things like movement speed boots or colored gem slots at a vendor? I'm using the Laikoen leveling helping

helper*

[kind pilot]

I love how the new RF says it ends you have 1 life but doesn't use life lol

[high fossil]

It deals damage based on your mana, it doesn't deal damage to your mana

You're still just "on fire" in the classic sense

[kind pilot]

oh wow you are so right

these gems are very tricky

[somber junco]

but it does scale with spell power

[high fossil]

There's so much weird stuff with these new gems, i totally went to reread it before i posted. We've gotta relearn a whole bunch of stuff

[kind pilot]

MoM RF when?

[high fossil]

Pohx frantically pob-ing

Or possibly frantically sobbing

[copper dune]

the new RF is going to be able to be scaled so hard. Huge W.
The base radius is almost double the old one too

[kind pilot]

Actually MoM would take the RF burn as mana right?

so not actually completely dumb

[high fossil]

40% of it, yeah. Plus that can be increased with other sources

[somber junco]

but, does reserving your max mana effect the new RF?

[copper dune]

no

if you read it, it clearly says it deals damage based on max. Not unreserved

[kind pilot]

^

[somber junco]

I thought reserving mana is reducing your max mana

[copper dune]

they make a distinction for when it matters for specific interactions

it will always be called out as "unreserved mana" or life

[high fossil]

Can you have New RF and RF Classic active simultaneously though? I assume not, but so much scaling/meme potential for the low low price of "on fire twice"

[copper dune]

probably not since they are the same root spell 😄

[kind pilot]

new RF + old RF MoM

[high fossil]

I know right

[copper dune]

also, it would be pretty cheesy to have multiple of any of these. For CWDT setups, they specifically make all spell gems of the same name share the same CD. So I would assume it is the same case here. Could be wrong though -- or they could have forgotten 😉

day 1 hotfix material

[kind pilot]

oh god, manaforged with the new gems

[high fossil]

Only 14 hours til we can start finding out what overpowered toys need to be taken away from us!

[kind pilot]

honestly i forgot bodyswap existed

[warm spruce]

So I take it affliction drops later today?

[kind pilot]

1 pm cst

[high fossil]

Depending on your timezone, it might

It's tomorrow for me

[warm spruce]

So 7pm GMT ok

[warm spruce]

Yeah it’s 5 in the morning here

[high fossil]

Time to go back to bed and rest up for launch!

[warm spruce]

Ironically am

I’m practically a noob to poe so

Was waiting for this new league before bashing my head into this pot of crack again

Just so I’m not left in the dust

[kind pilot]

dw we're all left in the dust lol

[high fossil]

Nice. Do you have a starter build picked out? Or just going to try some stuff and see what you like?

[violet nymph]

Don't worry. Everyone is going to be having their fair share of getting left in the dust either hoe wild this league is looking build wise lol

[warm spruce]

Generically?

Hunter or bow woman, meme with mirage archer and that chaos gem I forget the name of until I can get to that funny tri elemental archer thing

And from there, learn more lol

[high fossil]

That's the important step

[warm spruce]

Cuz my best character was level 56 or something and I have no clue how or what I was doing

Other than vaguely how it goes

[somber junco]

Perforate of duality, it's miss typed right? 76% "less" damage in blood but "more" aoe in sand. Don't sound right.

[high fossil]

I think the tradeoff is that in blood stance the spikes can all hit the same target

[somber junco]

oh wait orginal says the same thing

[high fossil]

So each hit is smaller, but they add up. Whereas Sand Stance would be about spreading out for clear

[somber junco]

nvm

[high fossil]

Lol, classic. I considered checking that

[somber junco]

just did the math, perforate of duality does insane dps

new cyclone sucks

[slender furnace]

Anyone got any good league start ideas

Cause I cannot decide

[dry kindle]

ohhh my god, do they not realize how insanely OP that new righteous fire is?!

[somber junco]

its good for SC players

[dry kindle]

not only that, but you can scale insane % increase spell dmg with mana via heirophant

nah, it can work for hc easily too

there's this node that grants you instant mana regen whenever you use a guard skill. fills you up every 2 seconds

[honest torrent]

first time making my own build, checks estimated cost
300divines

T_T

[slender furnace]

Ez dubs

[dry kindle]

and then there are flasks that can auto gain charges which also replenish your mana...

[tawdry plover]

When you put all the good items in pob

[dry kindle]

hell, just cyclone with the new ascendencies to gain 3 charges/sec and auto heal with potions

[barren moat]

Is lightning arrow going to be bad for ultimatum?

[somber junco]

You get 200% increased mana, that's only 60% spell damage.

[dry kindle]

that's a free 60% spell dmg tho

[tawdry plover]

Wouldn't u just indigon+arcane cloak = spell dmg

[dry kindle]

yea i can see ppl abusing that like crazy

manastacking is back!! woohoo!

i never tried it, but you can probably still bloodmagic to use other skills to add to your dps, and double dip that % increase spell dmg

[tawdry plover]

Pathfinder perma flask sounds like its good here

[somber junco]

too many op builds

[violet nymph]

Would leaguestarting that EQ of Amplification be a bad idea?

[tidal bobcat]

will the wildwood be accessible during the campaign or only maps? can't find this detail in the patch notes

[violet nymph]

New league mechanics usually are accessed during campaign as far as I remember

Completing them might be rough though

[tidal bobcat]

thanks, that was my guess too but wasn't sure

[finite furnace]

What farming would be best for casual play, like 1 week until red maps. Map blaster like CF champ/LA and legion farming. Or a single target like miner and expedition+harvest. Since I cant use early league currency making.

[pseudo hull]

what do u know thtey missed several main skill gems, including all the ones i legit use every single league….

well done GgG

[violet nymph]

[pseudo hull]

ultra omega cringe

[lime flax]

i refuse to peek

im going in blind

[violet nymph]

so last batch tomorrow or not?

[pseudo hull]

there are no more

[arctic fulcrum]

no this is the last batch, (5/5)

launch is tomorrow

[pseudo hull]

they legit missed several main skills

[blissful onyx]

Cringe

[pseudo hull]

why they make transfigured versions of the leveling ballista gems but not the endgame oneszzz

[thin otter]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452760

[pseudo hull]

nobody uses shrapnel ballista and seige ballista in maps they use ballista totem or artillery ballista…

[lime flax]

I like shrapnel

:c

[inland dagger]

is there a countdown?

[high fossil]

yes, on the main page at pathofexile.com

[violet nymph]

affliction rewards are cool af

SC trade it is

[brave mirage]

where trans artillery ballistaaaaaaaaa

[tawdry plover]

Iron commander exists

[lunar yacht]

Less than 14h to launch (assuming it's not delayed)

[pseudo hull]

seems like steel shrapnel ballista will be good

[lunar yacht]

Fuck this league.

No transfig fireball?

[pseudo hull]

i wanted some kind of meme trans magma orb

[lunar yacht]

Are you kidding me?

[pseudo hull]

or blast rain of blasting

[lunar yacht]

I wanted to enjoy some fireball but I guess I have to play Arma brand

L patch

[copper dune]

Or flame surge of combustion
Or firestorm of meteors
Or cremation of "volcano"

[lunar yacht]

No.

Flame surge looks bad. Firestorm of meteors is fine but fireball is more fun and cremation I might as well be playing DD (+Arma brand uses cremation anyways iirc)

[copper dune]

The cremation one doesn't require corpses. Totally different

Flame surge one is an ignite hella engine multiplier.

The more ignites on the thing, the more it scales

Woohee, it's gonna be so good

[vestal mortar]

DD vs rage vortex/cleave for ultimatum league starter?

[lunar yacht]

It's not gonna be good. No fireball transfig = L patch.

[copper dune]

Pretty sure Fireball still got the quality change to make it marginally better like all the other damage skills. /Shrug

[lunar yacht]

Quality change is cool yes. But they literally ignored the stable of every ARPG

Well at least viper strike made it, but melee poison is melee poison

[crude fern]

do you guys know how splitting/shattering steel actually work now that they removed shards and call/ward?

is it just a purely 1 button spell now?

[eternal turtle]

Any ideas how many gems didn't get released l?

I only noticed 1 flicker strike gem

[somber junco]

it's fun to try new things

[tawdry plover]

Some didn't even get one, but they did make it sound like this is it

"Here is the final batch for the path of exile affliction league"

[copper dune]

Tbf, each one of these is like a whole new ability added to the game. That's ALOT of work for a short amount of time.

[eternal turtle]

I thought they said there was over 100 somewhere

Kinda wonder what will be most useful one and what will be most useless one

[dusty cove]

Just me or no alt sweep gem?

[copper dune]

Some of them are pretty build defining -- RF and Flicker for example. Choosing to scale mana or power charges makes a big difference and opens up new possibilities. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them end up being worth quite a bit early in the league