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[potent mulch]

they said that there is a atlas passive that makes the ultimatum trial last 3 more rounds

gonna be tough but highly rewarding

that's why we gotta play something tanky I guess

[winged wedge]

At that point you don't just need tankyness. You can't choose the condition, so you can get Ruin or other modifiers that suck for your build. Which means you fail unless you also kill stuff real quick

[potent mulch]

regardless of the trial master himself lol

[swift zenith]

guardian srs is probably the easiest option by far, not much involved except selecting the right ascendancy node

[potent mulch]

good point

[potent mulch]

I see

bone shatter jugg is better than slayer right ?

[hot ivy]

[winged wedge]

Now that Divergent BShatter is gone, Jugg is not necessarily a significant difference. Jugg if you want to have an easier time with defenses, Slayer if you want to have an easier time with damage

[glass seal]

We don't actually know divergent boneshatter is gone. Could just be a transfigured gem

[potent mulch]

thank you

[potent mulch]

maybe, will see

@winged wedge SRS Guardian is more tanky and the Necromancer is more damaging?

[winged wedge]

This, I do not know, but it is likely. Check Subtractem's SRS Guardian and the accompanying PoB.

[half wadi]

I hate Fire Trap with a passion, but love Righteous Fire...

Hope there are some changes

[winged wedge]

I can't play RF again if I have to use FT for single target. And I did great with it in Ritual

[mystic bolt]

Wait.. That is weird..
"In Path of Exile: Affliction, we've added over 100 Transfigured Gems!"
Shouldn't it be "hundreds"?
I had assumed every single skill had three versions now.
Or did I massively misunderstand something?

[hot ivy]

hundreds of transfig gems is definitely over 100

[mystic bolt]

It is indeed.. But "more then 100" sounds to me like "less then 200", you know?

And arent there like way more then 100 skills in the game?

[hot ivy]

probs running out of time to make and code everything

[tiny snow]

i also think they never said that each skill would have 3 versions

they said 1-2 on the stream iirc

[fading idol]

Hey, does someone know if vaal gems can be transfigured ?

[grizzled moon]

would make sense that you cant transfigure already corrupted gems, and there are no transfigured vaal skills

[fading idol]

if you transfigure and after corrupt it could be a solution but guess we don't have the info yet and it would be weird yes

[winged wedge]

Jugg + Nebuloch + Consec. Path Flicker slams ... i think i hauve covid...

[violet nymph]

since falling zombies no longer require a corpse, can you make totems that dropse corpses in enemies? Like EA Ballista but instead of arrows its dead people?

not that I'd do it, i suck at buildbuilding, but I'm curious if the possibility is

there

[gleaming zodiac]

🤣 that'd be creepy and funny

[silent galleon]

Funny you say that I had the exactly same idea

It does have the spell tag

[sonic stirrup]

You can, but the Vaal skill is the regular vaal skill

[hollow canyon]

Cant wait for the new league!!!

[random juniper]

Same

Cant wait to throw my life away again for 1 month

[fathom rock]

How does the conc path worth with the earthbreaker support I wonder

[south plume]

HUH did impaling double strike make double strike better?

[dry kindle]

yooo does anyone else suddenly want to play coc blade blast of detonation?

[random juniper]

Might be

[random juniper]

Kinda. Bladeblast at last

[dry kindle]

that's insane, 5x dagger damage

but i wonder if it also takes from +added damage mods on dagger, or just base damage

[random juniper]

I just wanna play any impale skill and/or bv, bf, bb

[random juniper]

I could imagine that

[dry kindle]

seems busted already to me lol

you don't even need to drop blades, it just explodes

[covert nacelle]

is DD of chain reaction busted or is it just me

[outer stone]

corpse mines

[tacit quest]

do transfigured gems have a vaal version?

[devout osprey]

yes they can (not confirmed im just guessing)

[sonic stirrup]

there aren't trans vaal skills but you can have a trans vaal gem

I'm pretty sure

[devout osprey]

yeah the vaal version will be normal version, but vaal

[tacit quest]

nice

[random juniper]

I dont think there will be vaal versions, and if so it would maybe be a rare lab craft that lets you transfigure corrupted gems or sth

[long sandal]

Do tinctures apply to clones since they use copies of your weapon?

[random juniper]

But idk, since the vaal skill isnt affected i guess

[spiral ether]

hey is arc elementalist viable as starter?

[grim basalt]

Arc is always viable as a starter

[covert nacelle]

no maybe

[long sandal]

why?

[covert nacelle]

actually

maybe

depends on the minion

[wispy phoenix]

anyone advice on good league starter build for a guy with 150 hours in the game im having trouble finding some solid info on any that i can trust

[covert nacelle]

if you're talking about mirage archer, that thing is spaghetti

so it probably works

[covert nacelle]

have you done EA ignite champion yet?

[wispy phoenix]

i have not homie

[covert nacelle]

good build. only downside is the damage delay

[wispy phoenix]

any pob i can find on it

[arctic thistle]

my poor shattering steel

the build was my project fro the longest time

[covert nacelle]

Zizaran will have his updated version somewhere on his youtube. Shouldn't be any different from last league.

[wispy phoenix]

ty

[knotty ivy]

snoobae on youtube

[humble horizon]

I heard EA Champ damage gets hard to scale later on?

[swift zenith]

yes, but you can eventually switch to something else. It still goes very far with some investment

building it is very easy too, so it is a great league starter for beginners

[humble horizon]

gotcha

how does it compare to toxic rain pathfinder (totem or selfcast versions)?

[swift zenith]

I think it is easier to build, but I like toxic rain more since EA needs the totems while totems can be an extra for TR

[humble horizon]

seems like pathfinder is also faster?

[swift zenith]

PF can eventually get full time buffed flasks, which means more quicksilver flask movespeed. But the champ can also run fast enough if you build it right

it is a lot more about how you want to play

[bold timber]

what builds are we running for new laugue?

[torpid badger]

Blighted contagion seems neat

[violet nymph]

WINTER ORB

[high fossil]

I'm going for bladefall-bladeblast, probably power siphon spellslinger with an eye to move to coc.
But that's just a delaying tactic while smarter people develop better builds that i can steal

[cyan wing]

Something tanky would be my plan. Maybe even melee

[arctic cargo]

what class? Trickster?

[high fossil]

That is an excellent question, with about 5 answers at present

[arctic cargo]

which class are you going?

[high fossil]

I haven't decided yet. Trickster, sabo for coc, deadeye, raider, or possibly champ (but probably not champ). It's early days, much progress to be made

[arctic cargo]

okay thank you just looking for classes out of the norm to try something knew

[tender ibex]

I have never been much of a bossing kind of player, but this time. Now I wanna farm Ashes cuz god damn this is an ashes league if I ever saw one

[high fossil]

Ok now that i actually look closely at my options it'll almost certainly be trickster. A lot of built in utility to cover the stuff i usually neglect on league start

[undone gyro]

so you're telling me, that the divergent additional accuracy's % damage per 1000 accuracy is just, gone? did I read that right?

[eager charm]

fine?

not sure what you're asking

[lyric ice]

Do we have any idea what will be replacing mods on helms? like is it just removed or is there another use for helms now?

[cunning epoch]

I forgot sorry haha, but how long before league start can you download before hand, like an hour or something?

[high fossil]

The servers will go offline about 3 hours before the league starts. Then GGG have to deploy the patch before we can start downloading it, which recently has been taking about 30 minutes, iirc? I'd budget up to an hour though. Then you should be able to start patching, and then join the queue to log in.

[cunning epoch]

Yeh easy thanks mate, I’m just from Australia and league start starts at 3:30am so just seeing how much sleep I can get haha

[high fossil]

Same. I usually set an alarm for 3:30, get up and apply the patch, join the queue and go back to sleep til 5:30

[violet nymph]

Power siphon seems really trash now

GL bro you'll need it

[high fossil]

Really? I didn't see much changing with it, what do you think is the issue?

[violet nymph]

Cant link barrage with it anymore

The only reason to use it

Ggg does this weird shit where they nerf bad archetypes

[high fossil]

I don't give a carp about PS damage, i just want power charges and a trigger for BB-BF. I might sub in another skill if it doesn't work well for coc, but that's not really a problem

[pseudo hull]

do we know if all skill gems used for spells or attacks will have a transfiguration by league launch?

There’s a few in the A-D i don’t see on today’s announcement

[short blade]

late answer to this, but they are currently not intending to do transfigured support gems. The reason is transfigured gems are basic skill gems that have something about how they play modified. Support gems modify skills. If you are creating a changed version of a support gem ... it would just be a new support gem. No reason to make them transfigured versions, its just a new one. They talked about this briefly in the Q&A before the patch notes were released. They didn't hard "No" the concept long term, but that's their current thinking.

[carmine pond]

I'm fairly confident all active skill gems will have at least 1. Most likely some are just still being tweaked

[pseudo hull]

cool ty

[shy steppe]

That may be the goal, but they might not complete it:

[wild arch]

What are the odds of getting a cool viper strike alt

[serene roost]

Pretty high probably.

I’m hoping for some cool molten strike interactions

[barren crescent]

Surely no mid league balance patch, right

[mild ingot]

anomalous controlled destruction moment

[umbral kindle]

was this unique revealed?

[mild ingot]

isnt that the trickster helm

[umbral kindle]

saw it in the affliction reveal

isnt is new?

[mild ingot]

yea its th trickster one

[umbral kindle]

ahh yeah, its the tricksters smile, new helmet in affliction

ty

[mild ingot]

garbage

[umbral kindle]

seems so

[mild ingot]

another 1c unique

unless you put it on AG 🤔

enemy hits ag

it loses resist

[umbral kindle]

this overwrites exposure?

[mild ingot]

i think epoxsure yes penetration no

[umbral kindle]

k, thanks

[mild ingot]

dont thank me

[pseudo hull]

what u guys think of this combo?

red dream + replica badge of the brotherhood + fire skill

i was thinking of going raider and going 10 frenzy charge with this and using some fire skill

[hidden fulcrum]

do we know what crafting options we will get on the map device?

[pseudo hull]

i think it was announced yeah

kiracm ods

ultimatum on it

[hidden fulcrum]

10c ew

[pseudo hull]

prolly worth lategame

when ur rollin an op ass build for it and doin the 13 round thing

[hidden fulcrum]

do we know our map pool yet?

[pseudo hull]

yup

[hidden fulcrum]

cant find it in patch notes >.<

nvm found it

jungle valley back on the menu

[shy steppe]

it's definitely worth even without 13 rounds.

[hidden fulcrum]

exarch altars gonna be lit

does anyone remember if ultimatum pauses your buffs between rounds? shrine buffs for example

[lunar yacht]

Fuck exarch altars. Blue altars is the way to go

[devout ledge]

wrong

wrong wrong wrong

unless you are a gambling addict

[lunar yacht]

With blue altars you at least get fun bosses. With red altars you just sell the bosses too

[hidden fulcrum]

wrong

[elfin sierra]

i prefer exarch altars because the mobs spawn quicker

thats about it

[rapid radish]

does anyone have 2 good league start build ideas for affliction for myself (semi-knowledgeable) and a friend(completely new)

[rare junco]

For new players Explosive arrow champion is always my go to. Zizaran has a ton of resources on it. It’s very easy to understand since you’re just stacking attack speed. Can scale for endgame. Cheap uniques.

For more experienced players I can’t really recommend anything cause I’ve only tried detonate dead, cold dot, and explosive arrow which are all pretty basic.

[brisk quarry]

you could start double duelist and play cyclone slayer

[lethal mica]

I'm thinking I'll go dd this league but was unsure how it scales endgame

[grim basalt]

DD scales pretty ok TBH

I ran DD two leagues ago in delve

[rare junco]

I hit a wall with detonate dead early maps, but I know people can get it up to killing Ubers. I think Ben ran it in one of the boss kill races previously. It’s a solid build for bossing. I’m seriously considering it for this league.

[lethal mica]

Same

[grim basalt]

I took detonate dead to t16 easy pz

[lethal mica]

Furthest I've got so far is t5s I just started like 2 weeks ago

[grim basalt]

Jorgan has a pretty good black flame detonate dead if you're looking for a starting point

Taught me also how to layer defenses

[lethal mica]

I'll look it up

[grim basalt]

Iirc you scale detonate dead with minion damage using the minion DMG modifier apples to self

[unkempt pecan]

wtf, only 40 trans gems revealed out of >100? But the release is right around the corner.

[slate rivet]

is it known if juggernauts unbreakable node and the new warden asc oath of maji /double defenses of body armor// stack?

[odd basin]

It's the same effect and can't stack

[slate rivet]

ah I c thank you

[bright orbit]

armour stacking? nah.
life stacking? YES PLEASE

[mild ingot]

last minute

just like me and assignments

i bet ggg devs are thinking: the deadline is release day

[serene roost]

Shameless molten strike champ build guide plug (I made it, on Reddit)

[visual stone]

what are best options for ultimatum builds?

[tepid zenith]

It pauses the entire game. Nothing ticks or happens

It's why people have been clamoring for them to add the pause effect to betrayal and stuff

You're 100% safe while paused

[silver cave]

I'll take their word for granted that they are still making and fixing a bunch of them

What would be most efficient mechanic to juice with affliction wisps? Beasts?

[odd basin]

Beasts don't drop too much do they? I think the only affected league mechanic is Legion because those spawn in when the map is loaded instead of spawning when activated. Not sure if wisps work with that but the above is true for Ritual; only Legion can be sucked into it, not shrine monsters or breach monsters or anything else.

[limpid nacelle]

More talent trees?! 👀

[swift zenith]

considering what happened last league, you can even consider mid league is the deadline

[warm scroll]

Don't worry, there's not too much choice in the new wildwood trees (I refuse to call them ascendancies because that's confusing). It'll be fairly obvious which ones you want to go with

A lot of stuff needs to be explicitly built around, like the warlock blood magic nodes. If you're not doing attacks with weapons, tinctures will be of limited use to you from magi. Primalist won't help much if you don't have any charms that boost useful stats for your character. etc

[sonic stirrup]

As warlock, you can click all but the life nodes though and it seems decent enough

And I don't think there'll be any build that won't be able to take the charms one for stats

Because it genuinely seems like it'll have a very diverse spread of different stats

[dusty umbra]

actually it looks to depend on which charm so it won't be as disperse as you might think

[sonic stirrup]

I don't know what you mean by that

[mystic bolt]

I am a bit nervous about the league mechanic.
I really hope that we won't end up clearing 90% of a map, then go into the forest to hyper juice the few remaining monsters.

Or go into maps with multiple bosses to juice just them.

I won't survive another city square meta :D

[narrow ocean]

what league starters is everyone doing?

[mystic bolt]

Big secret!
No one is allowed to know..
(Poison Ballista Caustic Arrow)

[dry kindle]

anyone doing a blade blast dagger build? i managed to get 3 mil dps with it in pob. usually all my pob's only do 200k at best. so i know this skill is something special.

[inland yacht]

I'm going back and forth. I was testing Boneshatter Jugg in the last days of Ancestor, but the new Animate Weapon Guardian build Ghazzy just shared looks really good too. Also, Subtractem had a great elemental SRS Guardian, and I'm considering splitting the difference between them

Since Animate Weapon and SRS share a lot of build similarities

[dry kindle]

like i said, in my pob, the best i can do with poison ballista caustic arrow was around 250k. how tf do people get over 10 million?

[inland yacht]

Palsteron is wagering on the new transfigured Caustic Arrow with high poison chance
Video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkmriIazivQ

[mystic bolt]

By knowing how the skill works.
It can shotgun the same target up to 7-9 times.

[dry kindle]

yea i have put shotgun into consideration. and that was the vid i watched.

all the hits with 5 totems was 250k total poison dps tops

[inland yacht]

5 totems x 7 projectiles each

[dry kindle]

in my pob each projectile was doing 6k poison dps

hell, it was only doing 1k dps with a bare 6 link.

[mystic bolt]

Then there's something wrong with your pob.
250k dps is barely anything these days.

[dry kindle]

i know which is why i'm asking what i'm doing wrong lol

[inland yacht]

Poison requires a lot of things to align: Duration, Attack Speed, Damage over Time Multiplier, and Poison Chance

[mystic bolt]

If you want I could take a look.

[dry kindle]

yea i got those, check my pob

[inland yacht]

If you don't have all of those, then you're going to have a bad time

[dry kindle]

gimme a sec to grab a link

https://pobb.in/ef375fFLkfGT

[inland yacht]

Because if each projectile is doing 6k poison DPS, and you attack twice per second, and no duration bonuses, that should be:
6_000 poison DPS x 7 projectiles x 2.0 seconds => 84_000 poison DPS
84_000 poison DPS x 5 totems => 420_000 poison DPS

[dry kindle]

i thought the poison dps displayed was all the poisons stacks combined for 1 projectile

[inland yacht]

It's been a while since I've looked at a poison build, but there's usually a value of per-poison damage, and another of effective poison DPS as a factor of how many poisons you can stack (byattack speed x duration) multiplied by your poison chance

[dry kindle]

either way if you magically double it after all the calcs in pob, its still less than 400k 😦

[mystic bolt]

Pob looks fine.
I am just confused by the Occultist Choice.
Pathfinder should be better in every way.

[dry kindle]

as you can see i took all the poison nodes, poison multipliers, put in all the ailment gems. seems like most builds suck unless you can figure out some kinda weird trick interaction with transcendent jewels or something.

well pathfinder for me was half the dmg....

[mystic bolt]

And way too many uniques etc.
Rare items are strong!

[dry kindle]

what should i look for in rare items?

[mystic bolt]

How new to the game are you?
(Not mocking, I need to know to answer the question)

[dry kindle]

i added the line '40% chance to poison' in the amulet to pretend it was the transfigured caustic arrow

believe it or not, 5 years on and off

[mystic bolt]

Chaos Dot Multi, Dot Multi, Attack speed, arrows..
And a lot more.
Your version is basically drowning in unnecessary uniques.
Oh, and resistances, of course.

Lemme quickly whip up a day 1 pob.

[dry kindle]

yea i figured i'd work on the resistances later, no point in putting them in now

[thorny pond]

The mechanic will always been at the beginning of map

[mystic bolt]

Sadly that is not helping..
Because if what I said works, then we have to backtrack every time..

Well.. Wont "have" to.

[thorny pond]

They said it spawns at beginning

[mystic bolt]

But you know.. Efficiency and such.

[blazing grove]

Is there any info what summon Dark Effigy Skill skill does?

[icy fog]

@blazing grove nope

I'm free, got muted for posting character names I've been using in game for years on poe.

Got some reddit mods here lol

[grizzled moon]

yeah names that probably would get you banned ingame too if reported

[sleek light]

Has there been a word anywhere how existing Skill MTX are working with the new Transgems ?

[grizzled moon]

"Yes, as long as the base gem has a compatible microtransaction, it should work with the Transfigured version of the skill."

[mystic bolt]

Not that I know.
But GGG has been very good at updating mtx when changing the visuals of the base gem.

Ah, nvmd.

[grizzled moon]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452002#19

welp the link doesnt work but its in the faq there

[winged wedge]

SRS Guardian looks enticing because I like the idea of a brainless campaign

And then I can always convert into a more powerful Templar build when I have the currency and Atlas/Atlas points

[icy fog]

I've been using most of em since 2013 every league lol

@winged wedge guardian anything is brainless, rf daddy solos

Smooth gameplay lol

[winged wedge]

But Cobra Lash deadeye can just cover the screen with death... And BV PF has splodies...

[icy fog]

I'm starting shattering steel deadeye same idea cover the screen

[winged wedge]

Yeah, Steel or CFever Champ and steel deadeye can also do wild stuff

[icy fog]

Good curse on hit rings going to be stupid pricy with everyone having curse explode

Delve going to be money even early on

[winged wedge]

And everyone is going to be able to buy charms too, which they can keep for later or sell

I think some absurd things will happen when all builds get access to explosions.

[icy fog]

Everything gets clear speed

You can also just charm swap when bossing

[winged wedge]

Oh yeah, what the hell, I forgot that part. Yeah, I think GGG may have partially given up on limiting the fun

[icy fog]

I mean it's temporary power but yeah, I assume the corpse vendor will be sticking around maybe as navali

Charms are prob staying as sanctified relics

Which they did say may return

[digital aspen]

I personnaly wouldn't bet on anything from affliction going core

[icy fog]

I feel the charms will 100% become sanctified relics eventually

Corpses were to make up for losing alt desecrate pool

I don't think the mechanic will stick around but I feel a lot of it is just testing for different systems

[digital aspen]

maybe. I do prefer to expect nothing though, I can only be pleasantly surprised then 🙂

[winged wedge]

The WW ascendancies often have drawbacks, tho. No gems on gear slot, no mana, or a mana reservation (barkskin) and such

If the primalist and the other WW skills that lack drawbacks receive some, they could more easily be integrated into the core game

[icy fog]

I'm not talking about those, I feel they'll 100% be gone

Some things just feel like they're just there for testing

[winged wedge]

Barkskin should just be a skill gem. More armor and no evasion if you aren't hit, vice versa the more you get hit. genius design

[icy fog]

I feel we have enough armour/Eva reservations

Grace, determination and defiance banner

Having another seems odd

It's a buff to Armour stackers though

[swift zenith]

just noticed, barkskin does not come as a passive right? You need to actually activate it

just like molten shell*

[winged wedge]

Yuh, it reserves mana.

[swift zenith]

if it reserves mana it became less useless, but still, unless the numbers on barksin come really strong not much reason to use it

that second node for it is also very conditional

[icy fog]

You don't take the 2nd node I feel

You're going tinctures/bark if you take it

Honestly the detect evil is probably the 4th node lol

[swift zenith]

detect evil may be useful in the league mechanic, and maybe boss rush

the empty slots one seems nice early on

[icy fog]

It's also great for HH and other things

Yeah early empty slot is solid

If you have a good tincture

[swift zenith]

I am thinking of making a raider with this node, with an empty boots, to complete acts/early maps faster

[icy fog]

Detect evil in timeless events let you know when all rares dead off screen

Emblems**

[open jungle]

You just find these new ascendancy people throughout the normal campaign?

In the wildwood mechanic

[thick stratus]

CHANCES of blink arrow trans gem skills being linked to their gem lvl

[violet nymph]

yea im not doing it till im done atlas tho. like usual

I never do the league mech until i'm settled

[open jungle]

But lose out on ascendancy if you don't unlock them and do the quests?

[violet nymph]

yep

[icy fog]

I normally do it a bit while leveling because hardcore. Sucks when you don't learn a mechanic is overtuned early on lol

I'd rather lose an hour than a day

[open jungle]

Hard to skip this one with the extra power it gives

Like skipping lab...

[icy fog]

Yup

[violet nymph]

most league mechanics are completely worthless pre-red maps. this one seems decent early though. but im conditioned at this point

[icy fog]

I feel the same

[open jungle]

It feels not optional like normal league mechs

[violet nymph]

im using manaforged setup so i cant drop sockets early anyway

for that node

[icy fog]

Even if you just do it every few zones

[open jungle]

I usually skip most too until maps but the warden or primalist would be nice boosts through campaign and early maps probably

[violet nymph]

the charm one is worthless until a week in

[icy fog]

Yeah even just using the yellow one to cap spell suppression with charms early is huge or hitting the jugg node so you don't need brine king

[violet nymph]

where everyone will swap to it

so why swap at all

just wait a week for charms to hit markey

[icy fog]

Naw charm one can be fine early

[violet nymph]

the charm one in sc trade is the best one and its not close

not on day 1 tho

[icy fog]

It's the best in most cases besides a few builds

[mystic bolt]

:/ Want more gems.. Gimme now GGG..

[violet nymph]

yea unless theres some reap warlock build

someone cooks up

[icy fog]

If we actually see 4+ charms everytime we find the person I'm sure it won't take long to get multiple usable charms even wo trade

[violet nymph]

doubt it, that would make the other 2 trees actually worthless

at least the 2 trees will be good in ssf without trading for charms

[icy fog]

You don't need best in slot charms for it to be worth it

[mystic bolt]

I wouldnt say worthless.
The Evil Druid tree has some really insane stuff.

[icy fog]

The other two don't do a ton for every build

[violet nymph]

that has 2 good nodes

and attacks only

i mean its free power but its not like worth talking hours and hours about like some people

[mystic bolt]

I meant the.. uh..
What are the names again?

[icy fog]

@mystic bolt yellow, blue and purple

[mystic bolt]

The one with the enemy summoning mark.

[mystic bolt]

I like that :D

[violet nymph]

i cant even check their names

[mystic bolt]

Depending on how the Mark works, its is an easy 300-500% more damage mod for some builds.

[icy fog]

Yeah strong for arc

And booms

[mystic bolt]

Arc, every shotgun build, booms, many strike skills etc.

[icy fog]

Bomeshatter

Bone

Actually just trauma.build

[violet nymph]

yea it has 1s cd at least if not more

[mystic bolt]

But there is no way it is THAT good..
There has to be some limitations on it..
I just wish they would tell us.

[violet nymph]

if it doesnt have ICD then GGG just wants to melt their servers

thats the only way its better than charms

you could spawn like 50 mobs per second easily

without ICD

[icy fog]

If only we still had mark effect tattoos

[thorny pond]

What do we think of Blade Blast of Dagger Detonation

[violet nymph]

melee 💀

although 2.9 is kinda large

[thorny pond]

It's yuge

[violet nymph]

cant leageu start with shitty dagger tho

maybe 2nd build

[icy fog]

You can start BF impale and swap later

[thorny pond]

Plenty of things to swap from

[icy fog]

Yup

[thorny pond]

I'm gonna do two builds + a starter this league. Fairly confident one of my builds will be Rage Cleave. Second is Dark Pact/Sacrifice or Relic of the Pact life stacker.

Just trying to figure out a fun starter.

And I think I might do Blade Blast of Dagger Detonation

Maybe make it posion

Idk

[violet nymph]

im doing LA into TS

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[thorny pond]

Pretty standard

OH I also wanna try the new Cold Snap

[violet nymph]

like 80% of SC trade

[thorny pond]

That looks fun as hell.

[violet nymph]

new gems released

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452250

[thorny pond]

Whelp. here goes all my ideas

[icy fog]

Str stacking falling zombie traps is happening at some point for me

Also Trans AG with rakiatas and chains of command.

Using the lightning srs champ scaling

[thorny pond]

Okay Hexblast of Havoc is god

gold*

[violet nymph]

bleed EQ is back

[thorny pond]

New EK gem is nice too

[thorny pond]

I basically saw that coming

[hot quail]

The new LS is just.. For ultra clear?

[young vector]

did they delete helmet enchants for new gems?

or this is on top

[thorny pond]

No helmet enchants

[open jungle]

How is hexblast with increased crit and more damage % but now highest resist?

[icy fog]

@thorny pond I was hoping for end charges but after conc path I knew it would be power charges

[young vector]

they only showed explosive concoction

[swift zenith]

cant we build it around coc? plenty of crits coming from that

not as fast as usual flicker tho

[icy fog]

You would still scale AS

[thick stratus]

ok BAMA trans gem skills have to scale with minion lvls or else 0 pt using them 💀 unless for clear or something

[bright orbit]

I am about to go into this league with an absolutely deranged league starter: Arohongui Chieftain w/ Bodyswap+Flamewood spell totems.

Will it be shit? Probably. Will every single AoE in this build shotgun with themselves? Absolutely.

Thank you Warlock of the Mists for the gift of Penance Mark. I will waste this gift on the jankiest bullshit imaginable.

[west loom]

Pretty ez to sustain with assassin so I guess it’s finally flicker CoC time.

[narrow ocean]

Man I was looking at caustic arrow too. You gonna focus on poison dmg or the chaos dmg?

[swift zenith]

go for the poison, the chaos dmg seems more like a bonus

[void tinsel]

Planning on doing blade trap. The 2h gem seems neat.

[west loom]

Chaos is there so the skill has some base damage to work with at least

[swift zenith]

we still have one more batch of gems to come, so I will wait before deciding]

[west loom]

So yeah the main point is poison

[narrow ocean]

So its not really viable you guys think to focus on chaos and just try to squeeze all poison/resistances ect

Also anyone brave enough to try the blood tree

Looks real interesting to stack that life cost reservation reduction

[swift zenith]

if the base dmg was higher maybe, but it is not big enough to justify going on the chaos dmg, poison will stack better

[narrow ocean]

The dmg is deceptive though since you will be like shotgunning 9 hits a shot

Thats why I was asking im still a pleb

Ive only done a few builds

[eternal dew]

has anything been said about vaal versions of transfigured gems?

[swift zenith]

vaal is a different type, so no vaal of t-gems

[eternal dew]

sadge

was thinking the new dd gem could be really cool for blight, but then no vaal dd

[primal pawn]

so how the hell are you supposed to use vaal arc then?

does this mean literally no vaal arc for the build?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1060054480818819082.webp?size=48&name=Deadge&quality=lossless

[violet nymph]

you can use it just the vaal inherits the parent gem's attributes

just like how alt quals worked

[swift zenith]

you still have vaal arc available in the game, but no vaal arc of surging or vaal arc of oscillating

[violet nymph]

you can get vaal arc on the alt gem. but it behaves like vaal arc

at least to me knowledge

the vaal arc doesnt get new behaviour

[swift zenith]

here found the answer:
They answered it in the Q&A, you can corrupt the trans gems to add a vaal skill, but that vaal skill will be the same as on the normal gem and will not act different because its on a trans gem.

[violet nymph]

yea 👍

that would be cool for a future expansion though

[eternal dew]

oh okay awesome

[old pasture]

the put in the list of gems both mirror arrow gems from the first batch... anyone else noticed?

[swift zenith]

those were revealed during the main patch reveal, but now we are receiving the alphabetic gem batches

[glass seal]

Okay boys flicker coc is back on the menu. Whose ready to destroy their eyes and brains at the same time with this ultimate headache inducing fun

[lone acorn]

how difficult will it be to get these new trans gems?

[swift zenith]

dunno, they did not reveal this. Those will come from lab, but not sure if each gem have a different chance rate to appear

[lone acorn]

are they going to be considered bis gems for builds?

[swift zenith]

for example, you go to lab, reroll a green gem and there is a higher chance of getting a few gems. And the options that directly converts the gem into a t-gem being rare

[lone acorn]

cool

[swift zenith]

probably for some builds, there is too much info right now, I have no idea what will be meta or not

but some gems do look too strong

[hasty nexus]

Hey, seeing as LA and a few other bow skills were nerfed, does anyone recommend any fun bow skills?

[visual stone]

i just saw the gems and man.... this might be the first league i play flicker since start

[lyric ice]

WTB 100 more trans gems. Let me have a successful Siphoning Trap! :p

I literally like so many of the skills I can't even decide

[visual stone]

ye flicker of power gained me, im going berserker for some flicker build

[lyric ice]

Lightning strike of Arcing, Absolution of Inspiration + Animate Guardian of Smiting. Spectral Helix build, literally any bow build. Blink mirror build ftw?

WTB Siphoning Trap buff :p

[violet nymph]

GGG memers

[violet nymph]

LA nad TS buffed

[lyric ice]

Can't wait to see more of the charms and whatnot

[grim basalt]

I'm def going to make a minion build this time

Animate guardian and the new zombies look juicy

And with animate guardian being ranged he should die less

[lyric ice]

Wait, did I make up a trans gem for spectral helix?

Sky Zombies seems fun lol

[grim basalt]

NVM I lied. Smite is a melee skill

[lyric ice]

*is dumb

Nvm :p

Just stack auras and get a spectre too

and take the additional regen passive nodes lol

[mystic bolt]

Pure poison, abusing the new version of the gem.

[narrow ocean]

Thanks I guess I will plan out a poison build then

[vague venture]

Elementalist ignite? 😳👀

With Heart of Destruction AoE

One trap explodes an entire pack

[mighty forge]

any news on if there will be Vaal versions of the new skills?

I Need a vaal Earthquake of Amplification in my life

[high fossil]

You can get a vaal gem of the transfigured gems, but it has the transfigured base skill and the regular vaal skill. Vaal skills do not get the new mechanics.

[vague venture]

Timothy McVeigh elementalist

[pale tide]

wait do the primilast charms stack can i have 3 plus 2 arrows for tornado shot

[high fossil]

The charms stack.

If they have mods that stack. +Proj will stack, just like it currently does from multiple sources. But has a +proj charm actually been shown yet?

[pale tide]

no but im hoping its just every single asendancy node

that would be absolutly stupid strong

[tropic birch]

Any good build for starter that can carry me to red map?

[carmine pond]

There are several, toxic rain ballista, ea totem, and you could check out Zizaran on yt since he makes ssf viable builds

[silent galleon]

Did we get any transfigured support gems too or did they just remove all of em without giving back any support gems?

[carmine pond]

There will not be any transfigured support gems only active non aura ones

[silent galleon]

Right

[carmine pond]

None of the support gems were removed idk where you saw that

[silent galleon]

I didn't see it anywhere, I asked xD

If it was true

[carmine pond]

It's definitely not true lol

[silent galleon]

I meant like did they remove alt quality support gems too

[carmine pond]

Alt quality doesn't exist anymore and the lenses you use for them will be removed. Awakened gems will stay

[silent galleon]

Right okay that kinda sucks

But I'm sure it'll be fine

[carmine pond]

Many of the normal versions of gems were majorily buffed so should be fine

[silent galleon]

Yeah true

It starts thursday right?

[exotic nacelle]

2 days 17hr from now. gotta count for your timezone

[carmine pond]

Dec 8th 19:00 UTC

[silent galleon]

oh that's friday

that's better than thursday

[exotic nacelle]

generally if league in your timezone starts on friday, they will 90% of the time start on fridays every time 🙂

[silent galleon]

Yeah I couldn't remember since the reveal was on thursday

[carmine pond]

For me it's on Thursday at 1 so I get 1 hour to play before I go to work 🙃

[silent galleon]

oh fun fun

[exotic nacelle]

thats rough

[silent galleon]

Starts friday at 8pm for me, but I got work on saturday so I'll have to turn in early

[exotic nacelle]

i mean unless your speed running it for early map profit taking it easy in the campaign can jsut make your build cheaper once you reach map 🙂

[silent galleon]

Yeah I take like 8-9 hours to reach maps

10 if I'm really slow

[carmine pond]

I'm usually always late for league start so it don't matter to me much

[exotic nacelle]

oh, i might have miss some information. but is there some lab transfiguration that are lock behind high lvl labsÉ

[carmine pond]

The exceptional gems probably

[exotic nacelle]

im generally a support player so, i gotta go fast if i wanna have a chance to get a group

[silent galleon]

Man that sounds rough

I'll just be supporting my minions I guess

[carmine pond]

The new spectre monsters look like they could be fun

2 of those hydras they teased would have some nice clear

[exotic nacelle]

just be careful if you bring those into high end zone 🙂

they said they have Very low resilience

[carmine pond]

F

[exotic nacelle]

they do look fun though

ghazzy will make it work so just look over there 🙂

[carmine pond]

I probably won't be playing them honestly

Not a huge fan of minions

[winter gate]

would be nice if somehow PoB was updated before the release so we can theory craft beforehand

[exotic nacelle]

it generally is on thursday

like a day before

[winter gate]

for real?

that's cool then :p

[exotic nacelle]

its not 100% undate but most of the feature are in there

update*

[winter gate]

yeah like new gems and stuff

[high fossil]

Tree is easy, but full gem data has to be datamined. Gems are usually the last thing to be implemented, but there's not much else for them to have to work on this time i think. So maybe they can prepare?

No wait, tinctures are probably trouble

And the whole concept of a second ascendancy

[exotic nacelle]

everytime the new league thing are the main problem

[tender ibex]

Is there a place on this platform that would be eligible to ask a question for the FAQ?

[wary stratus]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/gameplay-discussion is probably one of the better places to post questions. GGG does read stuff posted in this Discord, but it's very easy for things to slip through the cracks with how many messages there are.

[sterile brook]

They read most questions posted to the forum, I'd definitely recommend that for getting things into the FAQ

[dry kindle]

does spell cascade spread depend on the base spell size? for example lets say skill A has a default size of 3m. And skill B has a default size of 6m. does spell cascade spread more for size B? or would it remain the same spread for both and B would just overlap better?

[wary stratus]

TL;DR: Yes, skill B should spread more.

Sometimes that doesn't happen, but every historical example I can think of ended up being "fixed" (nerfed).. so..

[frosty heath]

any thoughts on lightning strike guys

[violet nymph]

poison LS is back with tincture, dont need to use heist dagger

[frosty heath]

what class for poison LS?

i was going to go raider

or trickster

[violet nymph]

berserker

[frosty heath]

oh hell naw i aint going zerker

[violet nymph]

raider and zerker are both good

or assassin

[frosty heath]

I was thinking trickster and forbidden flesh/flame explosive expert

[violet nymph]

thats not a starter

later you can play anything with currency

[marsh oracle]

has anyone made a "crit to do poison dmg build" seems like it was terrible forever lol

[eager charm]

It’s a fine archetype just “why would I invest into crit/agony when I can just do poison and scale”

[lyric ice]

Damn

So much to think about LOL

[grim basalt]

We still have more gems to go right?

[violet nymph]

I'm confused about the new ascendancies, so we can have 2, right? But still just 8 points max that we have to split for both?

[grim basalt]

No

New ascendency has own skill points

You gotta do league mechanic to level it

[violet nymph]

Oh, thanks, got confused due to how PoB handles it then

[stable basalt]

im stuck between 3 builds i want to do

[grim basalt]

You gotta do quests to level it

[stable basalt]

armour stacking juggernaut, boneshatter jug or SRS guardian

hierophant*

[grim basalt]

Depends on the goal

Delve?

[stable basalt]

trying to do all content

[grim basalt]

Armour stacking

[stable basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-it-gif-23757538

XD

bgeen a while since i played armour stacking

been*

[dusty cove]

Hmm am I being baited by crit GH?

[rocky trellis]

is it possible to get all of them ?

or i have to choose only 3 of them ?

[mild ingot]

4

probably noone will get the warcry node except blight/breach farmers

[rocky trellis]

where can i see all the Charm mod ?

[sonic stirrup]

Step one: break into GGG hq

[rocky trellis]

wish i lived in new zealand

o? they don't live in new zealand ?

[sonic stirrup]

You wouldn't normally want to break into places 💀

[rocky trellis]

lmao

just kidding. hope to see all Charm mod

[drowsy tide]

i wish

[carmine pond]

Then nobody would take the bear node

[winged wedge]

I want to do SRS Guardian because I want fast and mindless leveling, but I also heard RF daddy and the relic auras drop off at ~lvl 85 and there isn't a great way to scale damage for endgame. What do you respec into when you have accumulated decent gear?

[open halo]

Maybe try respeccing and trying falling zombies

And tell us how it is

Take one for the community

[carmine pond]

Zizaran is already doing that so no worries

[faint ravine]

I'll get it to start with on corrupting cry, and respecc into the third socket once i have 3 definitely-not-jewels-jewels

It's just a bit of quant early on, nothing to scoff at

[faint ravine]

You can always respecc into Spark Inquisitor or similar

[winged wedge]

Absolutely someone is going to do like five thousand map runs with and without the chest-opening warcry and compare the resulting loot

A small little drop from every dead mob is nothing to scoff at if you run a juiced map with sirens, beyond, and no explode/destroyed mods on gear

Or, a chance for a small drop even

[faint ravine]

Yeah if its a few extra chaos while filling out my Atlas that's more than worth it to start out

[median wagon]

hey, i see new league coming in 2 days, im thinking of coming back to play if it is good any reviews ? what does the community is saying currently.

[faint ravine]

Last league was extremely popular. This league we're getting a shitton of new gems and Bonus ascendancies and everyones favourite circle mechanic is back

Looking real good

[hot quail]

Community is pretty hyped for sure

[high fossil]

It's weird, i can't recall the last time there was this little negativity in the lead-up to a league.

[mild ingot]

there is never negativity in the leadup

people are excited everytime

the negativity comes a few days after launch when ppl become disillusioned and complain content is not rearding neough

see tota

how ppl cried when it didnt print divines on day 1

[carmine pond]

Nah the main problem people had with tota was how unbearably difficult it was. Even after hot fixes it was a terribly done mechanic that few builds could actually do without you wanting to rip your hair out. And yes the rewards were also terrible in comparison to everything else

The only good thing that came out of tota was the tattoos. The actual mechanic was irrelevant and most people would have preferred it was replaced with something else that way they could actually play the league mechanic

[high fossil]

You're right, i wasted so much time enjoying myself and getting the best rewards i ever had, while exploring a completely new game mode that made an excellent contrast to normal mapping

What a fool i was

[slender relic]

People were plenty negative in the lead up to expedition

[carmine pond]

I said "most people". Obviously some people enjoyed the mechanic but most couldn't even get past 400-500 rank and quickly quit playing it all together

[wary stratus]

bit weird to speculate on something like that with little to no supporting data

[carmine pond]

My entire guild all agrees the mechanic was bad

There is also plenty of people I've heard complain about the same thing

[wary stratus]

it wasn't particularly rewarding compared to higher end strategies, but it was accessible and decently profitable for more casual players

[carmine pond]

The idea was good but the difficulty was ridiculous

[wary stratus]

if you're in a guild talking about stuff like that and listening to complaints you're already not part of that casual chunk of the playerbase

people, particularly casuals, tend to not say anything when they're just having fun playing something, so obviously if you're not part of that social circle you're not going to hear their thoughts

it's fine if a specific mechanic wasn't to your tastes, but recognizing when you're in your own little social bubble is important, you can't make broad statements like "oh well everyone disliked the mechanic" when you haven't actually collected any data, and are just going off of biased anecdotes

[carmine pond]

It's hard imo to give an actual representation of casuals in poe because of the complexity of the game. To me I'm a casual because I still have to rely heavily on build guides to play

I only talk to alot of people because I don't have friends irl lol

Casuals in the sense of like diablo casuals I feel like are a very small sample size because of how many people I see quit the game trying to figure it out on their own

The data I'm using is from nearly everyone I've talked too saying tota was way overtuned and needlessly difficult. One of the most common requests I saw was that we needed a way to stay in the same rank so you could play at a level you were comfortable with

[wary stratus]

casuals, as in people that just wing it and do their own thing maybe a few hours a week tops, pretty much always massively outnumber more dedicated players in basically every game, usually by a huge margin

it's to such an extreme degree that I've seen games die purely because they neglected their casual playerbase

[still pelican]

Probably a stupid-ahh question that nobody has the slightest idea on but will the Summon Zombie of Falling consume raise zombie slots for the half second they're alive?

[carmine pond]

Those people don't usually stay that long in poe is my point on that. They either start looking up build guides like I did or they quit. Granted I've met 1 or 2 people that just play it like diablo and never see pinnacle bosses or even maps but that's super rare from what I've seen

[carmine pond]

Probably not but who knows

[still pelican]

wait if it doesnt thats broken

[wary stratus]

As far as I'm aware you don't need to be concerned about your zombie limit at all with falling zombies, as long as that limit is not zero

[still pelican]

Ok good

Cus theres the scepter that reduces ur zombie count by half but doubles they're dmg

[wary stratus]

you can use one of those, but not two

[still pelican]

One of the first things im testing when I reach lv 68 is if szf works even if u have 0 zombies

[wary stratus]

two will mean you can't cast the skill at all

[still pelican]

Yeah cus its addative

not multiplicative

They mentioned the skill takes ur minion dmg and ur spell dmg into account, theres the thing that adds ur minion dmg onto ur spell dmg which will probably be insane

[carmine pond]

Zizaran recently made a vid about falling zombies you might want to check it out

[still pelican]

Gladly. I really wanna use that skill because I think itll be funny as hell. Can u dm it to me?

[carmine pond]

Got you fam

[worthy otter]

Do we know if hexblast miner will be a viable league start?

[north dragon]

Didn't ggg already posted some faq about zombies

It deals 2.5x the damage of a regular zombie melee attack. Your zombie limit doesn't matter unless that limit is zero, since that prevents you from summoning zombies.

From faq

[violet nymph]

yea but why would you play it

[steady gale]

Maybe i should start looking for a league start

2 days and 7 hours till league

[grim sage]

Boneshatter jug or slayer in 3.23?

[grizzled moon]

probably jugg

[hot quail]

I cant put ice spear in a bow and have the bows fire +1 proj to apply, right ?

[lusty burrow]

bows have "fire an additional arrow" as a modifier

ice spear doesn't use arrows

[hot quail]

+1 from skills should work, and +2 from ascendancy

Yeah, thats what i was afraid of

[lusty burrow]

skills fire an additional projectile would add one

why do you want to use a bow with ice spear

[hot quail]

For coc

[lusty burrow]

forgot bow coc existed tbh

[hot quail]

Even tho cyclone coc should be superior for ultimatum

The fact that people dont even know it exists is precisely kinda why i wanted to try it

But cyclone got buffed for coc, ice spear got buffed for clear, frost bomb.. Maybe? For dps

[thin otter]

I'm looking forward to League Challenge Rewards. I hope it's not Armour Set this time.

[violet nymph]

same. if its shit ill just go ssf

[tawdry plover]

Its always been Armour set + sometimes other things

[violet nymph]

not always

[noble sparrow]

keep your expectations low

[noble sparrow]

after they changed to the 38/40 model, yes

[toxic olive]

I remember that for years we got only footprint effect, weapon effect and/or portal/wings/pet as challenge rewards

[violet nymph]

glad i got synth wings and pet. theyre so good

and expedition portal

[toxic olive]

but at the start of leagues as concept hardcore and softcore had different leagues and thus - different rewards

[fiery shuttle]

Do we know what tribute to the goddess and the other special ones do?

[violet nymph]

more rolls im guessing

[narrow ocean]

whatever it is this season is gonna be a banger

they seem to be shaking up alot of stuff

[pliant depot]

Btw when are they usually revealing the challenge rewards?

[dry kindle]

damn i'm so excited to play with that new siege ballista. gonna abuse the hell out of that increased attack speed/quality and poison

[craggy ice]

Do we know if the league mechanic punishes random flicker teleports like Delve/Synthesis?

[thorny pond]

You don’t take damage from the blackness

You just can’t enter the blackness from my understanding

[craggy ice]

So how does it interact with flicker?

Or can we even attacks mobs in it?

[thorny pond]

From the videos.
Mobs don’t appear until you reveal the area it seems

[craggy ice]

Hmm. So flicker doesn't really sound great... We will see, and I will just choose a build that can be respect to Circle league build

[violet nymph]

I'm a Warlock and I feel extreme disgust and hatred for Mana and Energy Shield, what should I do?

[sonic stirrup]

Click the agnostic and blood magic. Totally won't make the agnostic completely useless

[violet nymph]

Reserve full mana and play trans fr

[dry kindle]

I have this build idea that can do over 150 million dps if it works out the way i think it does. But if it doesn't work the way I hoped, it wil only be a 500k build.

[winter jay]

Anyone else have no idea what to league start?

[digital ingot]

guess the day before

or right before the launch

[craggy ice]

elaborate?

[glass totem]

so warden is just pathfinder at home?

walmart mageblood?

[craggy ice]

I have the opposite problem. I have too many ideas on what to league start..

Currently deciding between 11 builds

[winter jay]

Well same im torn between TR, SRS, LA, Falling zombies...

[thorny pond]

Falling zombies seems good

And ziz is doing it so you have something to follow

[winter jay]

yeah looks fun but it might not be ideal lol

[violet nymph]

My build idea is to befriend 2 aurabots and just pick skills and items randomly

[winged wedge]

I doubt people will have a bad time with any of the popular builds as long as said builds don't assume you want to craft a bunch of jewels or very custom gear, or that you can get your hands on key uniques

The only thing to consider is what kind of content you like/hate and whether you tolerate/hate things like switching support gems or keeping an eye on buffs and flasks

Some builds expect you to div bless Malevolence every x seconds or to give yourself adrenaline etc. And some builds are bad for bigger bosses, Legion, Blight etc

[craggy ice]

Do the trans gems have Vaal variants?

[thorny pond]

If you Vaal a trans gem. The Vaal skill will be the base Vaal skill

So Vaal arc will do what Vaal arc does even if it’s a Vaal arc of whatever

[craggy ice]

so the Vaal skill would do the normal vaal skill, but I could still use the trans version when not using souls?

[thorny pond]

Yes

[elfin maple]

Im going good ol' boneshatter again

[frigid jewel]

Someone knows when supporter packs will be available?

[elfin maple]

I presume on league release or within the first week or so?

Iirc these are different and we might be getting the league ones mixed with core this time around

Yeah so 8th of dec they launch

And core and league are combined this time around as opposed to core launching 2 weeks after

[frigid jewel]

Thanks... i want something that looks cool while i'm getting slaughtered🤣

[elfin maple]

They did show that massive hand slam finisher which looks really crazy. But I presume its a higher tier pack

[frigid jewel]

This is something i need to get🤣 😅

[elfin maple]

I do wonder how they packs will work since its fused

I really would love some cheaper options tbf

I think the detail is absolutely stunning but some of them are priced very highly

They also got the 1v1 boxing ring mtx which looks rather hilarious

[frigid jewel]

This is true... but if i get addicted i also go no-life, so not spending money on other things, like go out or whatever. What i save this way i can use on packs👌

A week end with friends can be costly too...🤣

[worthy otter]

When do we get core packs announced?

[dreamy raven]

Looks like most of peeps going SRS guardian

[modest compass]

Do guild name of stash tab set in standard carry over to league like personal stash ?

[swift zenith]

it is easy, strong and does not require much investment to do what a league starter needs to. Going with it and transitioning into something else is easy, specially considering the new t-gems

[pliant ravine]

what about the variant offerings?

ie belt enchants? Does that still exist?

[dreamy raven]

Cool.

[grizzled moon]

belt & boot enchants gonezo

[timber ermine]

does anyone have a link to that CWDT discord

[sterile brook]

there's an item in the FAQ about that too, might be on a different page

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452002/page/1#27

Q: The three Enriched Eternal Labyrinths modify the Divine Font and/or Lab chests in various ways. How will these work after the patch?

A: The Eternal Labyrinths of Fortune and Opportunity are unchanged. The Eternal Labyrinth of Potential does something a bit different to what it used to, but you'll have to find out exactly what for yourself!

[ashen prawn]

question on ralakeshs impatience

with its changes, it doesnt say anything about losing the charges

well it does

but i mean like, it just says, you count as having max, nothing about having to be stationary for it

oh also, does that mean you can use maven belts and still get those charges?

cause it just says you count as having max of that type, not sure how that interacts with old ralakesh

[wild arch]

The boots just give max charge stats at all times regardless of how many you have

[sharp venture]

would that work with discharge?

[wild arch]

In what way

[ashen prawn]

no i dont think so

it says you count as having the stats, i think they did that cause discharge was doing silly stuff last league

[sonic stirrup]

It's either going to bring you almost no benefits or completely brick discharge

[sharp venture]

yeah thought so

[eager charm]

Since your min charges can’t be used. It won’t be free damage either

[ashen prawn]

yeah

i was just curious for like, easy way to have max of all charges

[sonic stirrup]

Well, it no longer is minimum charges

[ashen prawn]

cause if it doesnt care about stationary anymore

i might use it on some other builds just for the extra stats

[sonic stirrup]

It was explicitly changed to stop people from abusing it with discharge in weird ways

[wild arch]

It should work with maven belts

[sonic stirrup]

Honestly they seem kinda really good in general now

[eager charm]

Oh I missed that

[sonic stirrup]

Most definitely will

[ashen prawn]

yeah thats what im saying

like, you cant use it for any charge bypassers

so flicker, flicker transfigured etc

but if it dont care about moving anymore

i might just use it in general

[sharp venture]

but it would work for things like accuracy per frenzy charge

[ashen prawn]

yeah

[sonic stirrup]

It used to just brick flicker

[sharp venture]

interesting

[ashen prawn]

well yeah

im just sayin

[sonic stirrup]

I wonder...

[sharp venture]

weren't some gems really after that?

the new qualities

[ashen prawn]

i mean, those builds had ways to generate their own charges

[sonic stirrup]

You mean like Frenzy?

[sharp venture]

yes, but you'd still have a second or two, before you generate them

[ashen prawn]

yeah frenzy seems funny

i like it

[sharp venture]

yeah, frenzy is one example

[sonic stirrup]

Frenzy is an example of where the boots wouldn't help at all

[ashen prawn]

unrelated to ralakeshs, but flicker strike of power CoC seems funny

well cause frenzy makes charges so easily

[sonic stirrup]

Because you will literally always except the first enemy in a map have full frenzies

[tawdry knoll]

yo guys is it just me or is flameblast of contraction insane for totems?

[sharp venture]

yes, but there is still that "first enemy"

[ashen prawn]

i dont think ralakesh's impatience would have any real spot in a build

but levelling itd be nice

[sonic stirrup]

Which would be an extreme waste to care about

[sharp venture]

granted not a major thing, but there were things like "you have iron reflexes at max frenzy charges"

so you could have a moment when you're not as tanky

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah, which is a relevant use case, and not from a gem quality effect

[ashen prawn]

what if you like, used surgebinders with ralakesh

[wild arch]

Maven belt so you can keep the stats of charges you're missing

[ashen prawn]

true

i was saying that earlier, but idk if it'll work yet

[sonic stirrup]

I absolutely think it will

[ashen prawn]

we'll have to see

i mean arns anguish with ralakesh

[wild arch]

The belt doesn't get rid of original charges

[sonic stirrup]

There's meme builds for all charges share cap with one charge

[ashen prawn]

would be really cool if it worked

yeah its slayer with badge isnt it

[sonic stirrup]

But also just the fact that always having all max charges for just boot slot seems really powerful

[ashen prawn]

since slayer makes endurance equal to frenzy, and badge makes frenzy equal to power

eyo, a thought

tulfall

since you dont actually hit max power charges

you wont lose it, and you get the added cold to spells, and inc cold damage per frenzy

[sharp venture]

tulfall with 11 power charges could be interesting

[ashen prawn]

well it could also be 11 frenzy charges

badge of the brotherhood

[sharp venture]

yeah

that's what I meant

[ashen prawn]

yeah

[sharp venture]

11 of all charges

[ashen prawn]

i mean, slayer is far from the power charge nodes

you'd probably just do occultist or something

[sharp venture]

hmmmm

[ashen prawn]

idk if slayer's position and lack of spell damage support is worth the endurance charges

you would still get 3

maybe more if you take some nodes

[sonic stirrup]

Anoint

[ashen prawn]

that too

theres a lot of ways to do it

[sharp venture]

could probably do something with the new ascendancy too

maybe

the primalist

[ashen prawn]

i doubt slayers endurance equal to frenzy will be on charms

but maybe max charges will

[sharp venture]

yeah, that's what I meant, max charges

[ashen prawn]

yeah if it is

that'll be insane

i mean, its possible, if they didnt account for it, to get 2 ascendancies with power charge max, maybe +2 max

doubt it

but it could happen

and i mean if you arns anguish, maybe slayer is worth it

[sharp venture]

why just 2?

[ashen prawn]

from each charm

[sharp venture]

aren't there 3 charms possible?

[ashen prawn]

didnt specify

i mean 2 from each charm

[sharp venture]

oh

maybe... that'd be a bit cracked

lol

also wasn't there a replica badge?

oh, nvm, that's not as good for power charges

[ashen prawn]

Yeah it's not

I mean even if they dont

[dusty umbra]

Charms so far give at most 1/2 of ascendancy

so at most you'll get 1 charge if we eve get that (maybe there will be some charms that are limited to 1)

[ashen prawn]

The arns anguish with ralakesh seems cool

The most annoying part is getting the power charges on the tree

If you go slayer

[dusty umbra]

just do blight gloves + ammie annoint for 2 and 3rd one is reachable

[ashen prawn]

I forgot about the blight gear

First thought was strangle gasp

But you have badge

Seems like you do use arns, you'll need a way to generate endurance charges

[sharp venture]

btw, we're losing alternate quality on all the gems? support gems too?

[grizzled moon]

indeed

[sharp venture]

but we won't have a way to change support gems, right?

that's kind of oof

[grizzled moon]

yeah it is

a lot of them were marginal in my experience

[sharp venture]

yeah but some were kind of nice

btw, malachai's loop for the power charges with the boots seems kind of nice

[ashen prawn]

Oh malachais true

There's a lot good options

Surgebinders are another

They scale with all 3 charges

[sharp venture]

true

hmmmm

[ashen prawn]

Dunno what skill scales off, spell damage, phys, and ele

Maybe eye of crowns

[sharp venture]

would the power charge items work on ag?

and you could make a blade vortex build

that converts phys into ele

[ashen prawn]

Think they would, but idk what max charges on a minion is

[sharp venture]

hmmmm

[ashen prawn]

Charges are stronger on minions

[sharp venture]

stronger?

[ashen prawn]

Yeah iirc power charges give 200% inc crit chance for minions and monsters

Same for endurance and frenzy

[sharp venture]

but less charges?

[ashen prawn]

Yeah, idk, I assume their cap is 3 by default

[sharp venture]

would conduit bypass that?

[ashen prawn]

Don't think so

Conduit doesn't affect minions

[sharp venture]

yeah I see that now

[waxen kindle]

the charges now have the same effect as players on minions

no more juiced charges on minions

[ashen prawn]

When did they change that?

[waxen kindle]

3.19

[ashen prawn]

Ah

[noble python]

Hey, so the timer for affliction league lists 2 days almost exactly

which would be 2pm est

Is that correct?

the timer states dec 8 pst below

[sonic stirrup]

The timer is a timer

[noble python]

ok so it would be 2pm est

[sonic stirrup]

I don't know anything about any particular time zone except my own

[sharp venture]

hmmmmm

[sonic stirrup]

Which is the benefit of a timer

[sharp venture]

I wonder, a support occultist with charges and curses

anathema ring, those boots, malachai's loop, power charges on tree, and a way to curse everyone with everything, lol

[undone elk]

What gates will be available this league?

[sonic stirrup]

Map device crafting options?

[sharp venture]

whoa, I just saw poisonous concoction changes...

lol

seems like a buff

[small wigeon]

how does new LS work? its worded "per chain" not remaining or have chained

[rain oriole]

lul

clearing metamorph organs second batch

[weary raptor]

With the changes to Heist, can anyone tell me how reliant on alt quals heist blueprint farming was?

ive never actually done heist before as a farming strat

[grizzled moon]

well they were the most popular thing to farm

hard to say what new heist will look like cause the blueprints are the same

[weary raptor]

you could have all the same drops from the same layout

idk if that is good or not tho

divines/good replicas/goos experimented bases

[undone elk]

Do we know what league mechanics are available with out the 7 gates?

[fallow mica]

@tiny snow https://clips.twitch.tv/YummyTastyOkapiRedCoat--bw5di7k_rUHnUxp

[oak hearth]

big f

but this

[surreal apex]

Minions are back lets goooo

[oak hearth]

alors this is funny af

[surreal apex]

Archer skeles, mage skeles with just gems is creamy

[swift zenith]

and they skipped all the gems I was interested in

[glass seal]

good to see that the we can get additional golems via the trans gem was a lie for everything but ice golem

[tall magnet]

Is there going to be a 4th gem batch or is this it?

[high fossil]

Did you notice the bit of the announcement that says "every golem will have an Of Hordes variant because we removed the anima stone"?

[swift zenith]

Supposedly we will have at least 1 t-gem for each skill

[glass seal]

i did miss that good catch brohark

[high fossil]

GGG know what do

[swift zenith]

There is a chance of us not receiving all or the spoiler until launch

[inland nest]

I hope not

[silver kettle]

there is going to be another batch

[high fossil]

I think if old-style RF was just secretly in at launch pohx would shit himself to death on stream

[dusk gazelle]

Does "minions automatically crit" (giant srs) apply to Minion Instability explosions?

[leaden cypress]

thats what im wondering - exploding giant bees sound fun

[young vector]

falling zombies looks so funny

full on explosive kamikaze zombie

[flat escarp]

Ive never played a summon bulld before but 3 reapers sounds sick. Lol

[candid solar]

hmm this is interest 3 maximum reaper.

[winged wedge]

But you have to keep feeding all three

[young vector]

if they dont eat each other its cool

[eager charm]

Don’t have to. Should but you don’t have to

[winged wedge]

Let me rephrase that: You get to keep feeding them ~~~

[west epoch]

Dang it! How am I going to resist playing stone golem of hordes explode curse

[spark pilot]

Hey, it is said that all alternate quality gems became regular ones. Does that mean we won't have alternate quality support gems too ?

[high fossil]

Yep, alt quality supports are gone

[spark pilot]

damn, thanks for the answer

[hard locust]

@silver kettle will all active gems get at least one transfiguration before launch? like the missing ones from previous batches (ball lightning, RF, freezing pulse etc.) or is it possible some won't get them in time

[silver kettle]

there is still another batch to come, if they're not in that batch they will not exist on launch

[hard locust]

gotcha, thanks! would any missing ones be added a few days after or not at all this league?

[silver kettle]

I'm not sure sorry

that decision is well above my pay grade

[hard locust]

no worries, appreciate the info

[wild arch]

Viper strike? 🥺

[dreamy raven]

bruh SRS guardian seems so bad. Boss dmg is <<<<< RF

[winged wedge]

SRS Guardian is for sleepwalking through campaign and early maps. Then you can spec into something else or build currency for your "dream build".

It might be possible that the new skellies can synergize with the relic auras as well

But SRS Guardian is def not weak, it just tapers off because it gets harder to scale the powerful things you get.

[torpid badger]

Im just dreaming for ED Contagion to become relevant again

Blighted Contagion gives me hope

[devout osprey]

make it your quest of 3.23 to make it work

[torpid badger]

My only complaint is this
612\5 stacks = 3060 dps fully stacked (Blight of Contagion)

284\20 stacks = 5680 dps fully stacked (Regular Blight)

But Im wondering about the newish contagions to see how they work the best...

[sonic stirrup]

Psst use \

[wind shale]

iam so fucking hype

someone put me in coma

and wake me up like 2 days later

[sonic stirrup]

I meant before the * to prevent auto formatting
Like \*

lol

[torpid badger]

I realized lmao didn't even process in my potato brain