1┃mirage-league

[light adder]

yes

[late cipher]

37 tattoo's to get this .... oof

[quaint lion]

since I've never played sanc before and I'm not sure what build would be a good idea this late in the league

[elfin sierra]

ts, hexblast, shockwave totems

[barren crescent]

High dmg / freezing capable / ranged dmg is good in sanctum

IE: Glacial Hammer is outright ass until you get it to a point where it outright perma freezes everything on the screen and has enough dmg to not be stuck in hazards for too long.

[quaint lion]

how about a lightning power siphon with a call of the brotherhood slapped on?

[quaint lion]

no I think I'll just do cold power siphon

[lofty ruin]

I just bought supporter pack with the Bell tower map device. Does it override my portal skins? Kinda expected to be able to switch between them, but maybe I'm missing something

[silver kettle]

map device mtx don't interact with your portal skins. there are specific areas that override your portal though, could you have opened one of those?

[lofty ruin]

Not sure, I just placed the Belltower in the hideout and opened first thing I was able to, I think the area was called Arena. I don't play currently, but wanted to get the pack 🙂 Maybe I should try with random map instead

[lofty ruin]

yes, works fine with actual maps 🙂 Thanks!

[drifting thicket]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[frank socket]

can anyone help me with tota?

[violet nymph]

does anyone know a good shockwave cyclone build ?

[flat kayak]

Damn is the titanic shell still bugged? Fights with Kahuturoa are the thing that make me wanna quit playing tota, heh

[warm scroll]

It's bugged only in flanker position, which only comes up a small amount of the time.

I haven't seen it happen focusing on getting rid of Kahu first, and I can't remember the last time I saw it happen when I didn't

I find Ikiaho far more frustrating with how precisely she can snipe with that ground effect and I have a bad habit of running straight into Utula's pee and falling over dead, which isn't fun

[late cipher]

help in what way?
kind of depends what your having issues with

[frank socket]

Honestly i just wanna play w someone

I feel like at some point it just gets rly repetitive

Dodge , distract and destroy

I feel like grinding w someone and comparing rewards could make things easier and more enjoyable

[slow pond]

only one person gets the rewards tho, the other one only has a chance to receive a reward of similar tier + no end of tournament reward

[late cipher]

yeah your parnet will get very low rewards

partner*

[sterile mural]

Ok quick question, it’s my first time playing and I’m following a guide. Guide has me get the silver potion on mule and silver potion on main but I miss clicked on a mana potion instead….

Do I need to make another mule?

[scarlet salmon]

you will be fine with 1

[scarlet salmon]

ask the #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help for future questions like this

[topaz jacinth]

man there are zero forbidden flames with endless munitions

[grizzled pecan]

hey ya'll, other channels aren't responding, have about 20 div and just leveled a Necromancer, you guys know of any decent carrion golem builds?

[marble wharf]

How do u drop reconbs in sentiel?

And does MF help?

[warm scroll]

I don't believe that MF helps. As for how you drop them... some drop naturally, but most will come from using a blue or red sentinel with the "Sentinel Rewards" type and using that on a big pack of monsters

[marble wharf]

Ight

I will redownload PoE just for Blast from the Past and play Crit Spark inquis or Frostblink Ignite Elementaliat.

Since i have never played any of those buildd and i wanna try em.

I have played Self Chill Spark Trickster but not Crit Inquis

So idk what the diff is

Reason is that i wanna be rich and idc where it will be, but selling recombs in std after a few months will make me able to finaly try endgame builds.

With relative ease

[versed garden]

when does ancestor end

[silver kettle]

early december is the target, exact date isn't locked in yet

[golden moss]

Shoot I hope I have time to finish maps I really want to for once finish map or at least get to red maps

[gritty heath]

League content is bugged. You take one warrior from the field and it takes completely different one

Somebody krangled the league 😄

[proper topaz]

If i want Ikiaho as last component, which of the two (Utula,Akoya) should i eliminate? I see that Akoya will be eliminated on the next loss, does that mean killing Akoya brings better chances of seeing Ikiaho last?

[iron sky]

If there is a set way to determine this, nobody has figured it out. Which leads us to believe that there is no deterministic results. Just pick either and it’s a 50/50 if she gets eliminated.

[proper topaz]

@iron sky cheers!

[grizzled pecan]

Anyone doing 5 ways?

[night plover]

for the last 2 days, I've been getting crashes in the league content. Before that, it was no problem, now every time Rakkiata's wave hits me, I get an error message ans my game closes. Anyone else with similar problems?

[warm scroll]

If Utula were already damaged, you would want to fight Ikiaho and lose intentionally. Unfortunately, he's not... your best play is probably to fight Utula and just hope that Ikiaho wins. After that, you would fight him again to knock him out, and then you'd have a free reroll on Ikiaho in the last round

If you fight her and lose intentionally and Akoya wins, you're still left with three guys on the field... you'll beat one... but the other two will fight one another, giving a 50% chanec that Ikiaho loses

[proper topaz]

I see what you mean! Looks like there is no way of deterministic outcome and the round reroll is too powerful to use before final round, so its a gamble as you hint 👍

by the way , is it possible to see if you are left with 1 lives or 2? i do not see it anywhere in the ui. Assume you died early but didn't play for few hours and forgot if you can reroll last round

Also , can you forfeit the round without having to wait for your totem to die? Makes things easier than relogging

[warm scroll]

Yes... there's a red mark that shows up on the top right of the "Select battle" window when you have a loss on your record, similar to the one next to Ikiaho and Akoya

As for forfeiting the round... I haven't found one... I just relog

[proper topaz]

cheers!

[late cipher]

remove all your units from the battlefield and just run into a corner, they will take your totem in a couple of seconds

[slim harbor]

if anyone is looking to make a 5 way KB build i have a full one with pobb/gems/flasks/gear wtc ( no hh) for sale, pm🥰

[serene mango]

someone give me a fun build to play for around 100 divs

[night mesa]

Anyone want to complete together the Navali's Neverending Nirvana Challenge - Final round with no totems or warriors?

[warm scroll]

yes

I also have a cheese build. WIth two, should lock them down pretty permanently

[night mesa]

@warm scroll whats your ign?

[warm scroll]

.@warm scroll should work

[warm scroll]

ah shit... I just realized my juggy is at 200 rating and basically doesn't die to mobs at that rating... easier way to complete challenge

[warm scroll]

TFW all of your channelers try to channel the consuming kunekune stuck in a void sphere all of whose damage taken is healing his totem

[marsh kernel]

What does the league end

When sorry

[silver kettle]

early december is the plan, exact date hasn't been announced yet

[marsh kernel]

Okay thank you

I just recently started playing a couple of days ago and was worried I wouldn’t reach end game before it ended

But I’m level 65 already and I’ve only been playing for 4 days so I’m sure I’ll get there by tomorrow or the day after

[late cipher]

"end game" is a whole lot of game lol, getting through act 10 means you finished the tutorial

[marsh kernel]

First time playing I didn’t know

I’m a Diablo vet

[late cipher]

now is where the fun starts 👍
so many things to do and ways to play open up to you now

[marsh kernel]

I gotta get the basics down first and learning what makes a good piece of gear vs a bad piece

One thing I’ve noticed is a lot of stuff just doesn’t have chaos resistance and it seems really hard to get

[late cipher]

you can probably get an amethyst ring off trade for dirt cheap with a huge chunk of chaos res on it

thats usually the short term fix for chaos res after you kill Kitava

[marsh kernel]

Okay

[sonic stirrup]

dismember moment again

[silver kettle]

FUCK

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[next epoch]

new strength skill revealed

[night mesa]

@warm scroll but that means making a new character - aw man

[warm scroll]

My jugg is still at like 215 rating... If you're willing to do it on an NA realm, I can run through a tourney rq on him and invite you

[night mesa]

@warm scroll yes please, when youre ready haha
I just tried again and failed

[warm scroll]

yeah, I don't see how it would be possible solo... you get like 20 seconds of free banishing time from that one field item, but that's enough time to banish like two totems if you don't get stunned\

@night mesa OK, on the last round. I did fail one match though so we've only got one shot

[night mesa]

Nice, whats your username?

[warm scroll]

Kytrarewn will work

[warm scroll]

Yeah, at least my budget version of the cheese build isn't great for multiplayer... if I had mageblood and more flask effect for innate evasion, plus various other flasks (I'm currently using two flasks for traitor), it'd be a different story

But my build sort of relies on being aggressive and that dying doesn't ruin your day

[night mesa]

But you still carried me

[warm scroll]

Nah, I think Belanos was the MVP in that one. He stuck to defending the totems, and rezzed me somehow when I thought I was dead for good (probably with the rejuve totem)

and your warchiefs did a shotload of damage

[pulsar depot]

Ranged is so much better in Tota God dayum

[runic snow]

Ranged is so much better in PoE. GGG never remembers melee exists.

So many ranged enemies sitting on top of degen pools that you just can't get near

[sage thorn]

More story-related statement I want to make.

When you think about it, the collection of islands that the Karui label as "Western Ngamakanui" probably have Karui who still worship Sione and Lani Hua, even after most Karui decided to stop doing so.

[proper topaz]

Does mobs accuracy scale with players rank? Will a mob at 2000 rank have more accuracy than 1200 ?

[warm scroll]

I was just going to post about accuracy, saying that it feels like the game just cheats sometimes

Some matches, it seems like the game just wants you to lose and every attack hits

I haven't seen any real difference in accuracy from like 300 rating to 2000, though

[late cipher]

remember each faction has its own "tribal passives"

Ahuana for example has higher accuracy

[torn niche]

^

[late cipher]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Trial_of_the_Ancestors

[torn niche]

She's the Ramako chieftain, idr did she have spear dancers?

[late cipher]

thats her yeah

the spear dancers are deadly and the archer guys do straight up ridiculous damage

[torn niche]

all damage is one 🔂

[late cipher]

I can take a few hits at 2k from most enemies other than the spear dancers and the bosses

[torn niche]

damn

[late cipher]

I've invested a hella currency in my main build though lol

[torn niche]

what's your defences and life pool?

[late cipher]

pro tip for all - replica mistwall is like 20c and caps spell block, such a good pickup just for tota

spell suppress and spell block capped, 90% ish evasion and 12k ES

[torn niche]

neat

then if I ever made 20k lifestack, maybe I could at least run around even if I did no dmg

[late cipher]

Int stacking Trickster / KB+PS

[late cipher]

yeah trying to deal damage is kind of pointless most of the time
I just focus on staying alive and peeling them off my own turrets (KB is very good for this)

no.1 target is always the invisible dog things, HATE those damn things
then i aim to take out any top tier disruption enemies like the rabagers / jade hulks

thankfully the AI is pretty dumb and you can kite the voss and her escort around the map while your team does its thing

[torn niche]

circling is very good yeah

get big nova, circle, spam big nova to get aggro on everything worked pretty well

[late cipher]

exactly yeah, a few of the bosses will straight up focus you too (Kaho and Kaom for example) so its really easy to just take them out the game completely by kiting

only time i really had issues was the stupid turtles making 12 totems invincible but I can burst them down now fairly quickly so its not an isue anymore

[warm scroll]

Interesting, because it's usually Ahuana units being piloted that Maata that are punishing

Utula and Rakiata are the ones that seem to focus me... Rakiata is a sniper with her water wall

[late cipher]

The key is to stop trying to win the game on your own imo
focus on kiting, staying alive and stopping them from taking your totems, only attack when its safe
(unless your cheesing it ofc then you can do pretty much w/e you want and win easily)

[warm scroll]

yeah, I'm cheesing it

Without mageblood, so evasion values are a bit lower than they would be otherwise

[late cipher]

then i'd suggest focusing the spear dancers as their probably what will 1 shot you the most consistantly

[warm scroll]

I probably have my lowest win percentage vs. Maata. I don't know what he does (other than being really aggressive about attacking my totems)

And yeah... spear dancers are the ones I've noticed showing up behind me and one-hitting me

[late cipher]

vs Mata I alays focus the dog things - they split into like 5 seperate dogs but most annoyingly they can channel on your totems WHILE invisible which is pure bs

[warm scroll]

My list of "kill first" is: Titanic Shell->Tidecaller->Spear Dancer

After that, Hulks and Ravagers because their totems are easy to kill even if they're not

There's a problem with focusing the dog things- they often have the item that causes even the tiny amount of damage from void sphere to heal their totem to full 4 times per second

It's extremely frustrating, especially when all of my team's channelers attempt to focus them, and I've got no way to dissuade them

[late cipher]

ah yeah that sounds like an issue true
I dont use Void Sphere so im no expert when it comes to that

Mata also has 2 very long range aoe effects which are annoying as f
maybe an idea to just "play defence" vs Mata - let your team do the heavy lifting while you just peel them

[warm scroll]

Yeah, that's what I've ended up on... his guys are so aggressive, it's best to crowd control them and let the channelers take on their unattended totems

[pale hemlock]

Hate the trawler dude. Invisible traps just one shot sometimes. I hear clinking. I run to other side. Worst thing to face is titanic she'll sitting in their base shielding everything.

[rare tiger]

Does Tornado Shot require any pierce?

[lunar yacht]

Does it still make sense to start a new character? I was planning to try a zoomancer build so I can league start with it next league?

[tawdry plover]

Tomorrow a new event starts if you'd rather try leveling in that

[lunar yacht]

Is it like cringeld?

Or cringled?

Ngl I forgor the name 💀

[tawdry plover]

Well its a different event entirely but yes you restart in similar fashion

The tree is normal

[lunar yacht]

So what's the catch this time around?

No skitterbots? That would be bliss

[devout osprey]

its 2 old leagues showing up, kalandra and sentinel

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3445755 "blast from the past"

Harness the power of ancient Sentinels and explore the mysterious Lake of Kalandra! The Blast from the Past event offers you an opportunity to return to these Path of Exile leagues from the past or experience them for the first time in case you missed them.

In this event, almost every Path of Exile area has both the Sentinel and Kalandra mechanics active. For more information on how these leagues work, check out the Challenge League sections in the patch notes here and here.

By the way, this event is not voided, so have fun crafting with Recombinators!

[lunar yacht]

Is this like a week long thing like Krunkerl?

[devout osprey]

krangle and yes

[slim harbor]

any divergant spark mains here pls pm i need help with my build

[manic shuttle]

just wanted to know what does "hindered" mean, like frozen and stuff? or just slowed?

[silver kettle]

Hinder is a specific debuff that reduces movement speed

[manic shuttle]

Thank you!

[warm scroll]

Wow, the price of silver coins is going through the roof

Couple weeks ago, it was 280:1d, then 240:1d a couple days ago. Now up to 180:1d

err, no, the chaos price is still at 1:1c

[late cipher]

pretty good Ventor's and a perfect roll Taste of Hate .... amazing what you find when your clearing out your stash tabs lol

[late cipher]

very little actual bulk though for chaos

[neat ice]

Pretty good ventor indeed

[marble wharf]

Show the ToH

If its perfect, it would sell for a few divs

[late cipher]

15/15 ToH yeah, already sold for 5 div 👍

[manic shuttle]

just wondering for RF Inq build, I saw a youtube video and he has energy shield up, while on RF. not sure why when I run RF, there is no energy shield as it gets burned by the RF skill. Im confused

[light adder]

pious path also regens es

[manic shuttle]

is that a passive skill?

[light adder]

ascendancy

[manic shuttle]

got it now! thank you!

[warm scroll]

Just out of curiosity, have you managed to drop a lock? I haven't ever seen one, and I'm thousands and thousands of coins deep.

Granted, I reroll the last fight often, and I've heard that might annoy Hinekora

[late cipher]

I've had 4 or 5 actually

but I havent seen any of the high value div cards others seem to be getting so

[warm scroll]

Best I've ever seen was 2 of the set for Squire

Which is about the same as a 4div or 5div reward... still, you know about that before going into the fight, it's probably a different system than tournament reward

[late cipher]

dont quote me on this but I have a feeling you can only get the Locks if you havent lost any games 🤔
Everytime Ive had a lock drop was a 0 losses run

[warm scroll]

That's what I've heard, yeah

So, no more rerolling at the end

[late cipher]

obviously my sample size is pathetic but

[warm scroll]

saves coins anyway

[late cipher]

I only ever reroll vs Ahuana tbh

[warm scroll]

I've also never seen Rakiata's sword

[late cipher]

oh yeah I've never seen that either actually

[warm scroll]

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if you did need to have a 0 loss run to see a lock... you definitely get 4 units more often from 0 losses, so they do track it

[late cipher]

it also kind of makes sense if I'm honest

Locks, the tattoo jewel, rakiatta sword etc - would be sensible they would be "perfect" run rewards

[warm scroll]

I'm pretty sure I've seen the tattoo jewel out of imperfect runs. Keystone tattoo also

[late cipher]

possibly yeah, I havent really paid much attention to them

I had quite a few of the amulets drop, they sold really well early, like 4-5 div each

[warm scroll]

at one point, I had a theory that you got better rewards if you didn't actually level up your army... like at the end of the tourney they converted remaining favor into reward quality

[late cipher]

lol thats some tin foil hat thinking

[warm scroll]

I finally gave up on it because you get more points when you lose (250 from Navali) so it wouldn't incentivize better play

[warm scroll]

not that exciting as far as div cards are concerned, considering that I've seen 5div drops without having to put up with Lilly's nonsense, but it's a new winner for best div card I've gotten

[iron sky]

Incorrect. I have had 2 locks after re-rolling.

[fierce yacht]

hello is there anyone have unused tota cheese equipment for inquisitor?
if yes can i have it? or lend me for some time to play haha.
very interested in tota and want to start very quickly,but just dont really good at making curency so i have trouble changing build
im playing RF build atm(by pohx rf guide)and hard for tota.

just started playing about arround 3 weeks ago soo forgive me for my lack of knowledge about this game

[mighty musk]

If TotA didnt shit out currency does anyone think people would actually enjoy it? Like sanctum would have enjoyers even if they nerfed the loot….but I feel not many people actually like TotA, especially if cheese builds didn’t exist.

[torn niche]

I would probably enjoy a bit of tota as long as the loot was at least decent. That said I still think they should work on some of the units

[warm scroll]

I enjoy it well enough, though it does have its issues. For one thing, I think they need to remove the death penalty from multiplayer

(You can only die two times before you're down for the count in MP, you can die 100 times in SP theoretically and still get right back up)

[warm scroll]

I can now confirm this, having gotten my first lock, from an imperfect run (the video I'm watching on the other screen got really interesting during one match)

[late cipher]

ooh thats good news then, means I can start rerolling the shitty rewards now without having to worry about possibly missing locks 👍

[warm scroll]

Worth noting that I got my first lock like 4000 coins in... so there might still be some effect on the rates

[ember hazel]

i keep dying in atlas missions man

[iron sky]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-amy-santiago-oh-what-a-shock-you-tried-something-and-failed-you-tried-gif-17662250

[indigo lotus]

NEW MAP POG

[proper widget]

are u just asking for an offering? i got 3 cards

[scarlet perch]

im tryna buy on poe trade but mfs arent replying to the trade

[light adder]

so use listing that want more, trading is against serverrules here

[proper widget]

undercover mod

[scarlet perch]

💀

[knotty wasp]

dont ask for trades here

[strange ivy]

Hello I am currently level 95 I want to reach level 100 but I don't understand how this discord works

[sonic stirrup]

Help category for questions. For example #1┃endgame-help.
#1┃looking-for-group to find people to play with.
#trading for trading.

[rare tiger]

Sometimes you intentionally lose a match to kinda "reroll" the reward of last remaining tribe, is that a good strat? Does losing a match in TotA affect final reward from hinekora?

[late cipher]

Apparently Hinekora's locks can drop even if you lost a match so rerolling is a perfectly viable strategy

I pretty much always reroll now vs Ahuana (+proj), Ickyasshole (max cold res) and Kaom (max fire rez)

[jaunty parcel]

How come I lose random people even when I haven't lost a fight or fought them

[devout osprey]

they fight other tribes, while you fight someone. like a real tournament

[jaunty parcel]

So it's just luck if you can get the ones you want to the end

[devout osprey]

ye

[late cipher]

yes and no, there are a few things you can do to try and keep specific teams in the game but its not 100% effective

most people aim to keep Ahuana (Ramako) alive for the chance at the +proj tattoo for example

[jaunty parcel]

I seem to have better luck get them to the end when I don't try lol

[late cipher]

quick and dirty guide

• never fight Ahuana unless its a div+ value reward
• if your down to 4 and you havent lost a match but Ahuana is on her last life you can fight her and deliberately lose
  (this gets her through to the round of 3 and you simply fight the other team to get her to the finals)

if she gets booted out round 2 or 3 there really isnt much to do other than try to fish for some of the max res tats from the other teams

[pale hemlock]

I've gotten two characters to 2k gotten 3 extra proj tattoo, seen zero hinekora locks.

[late cipher]

its all RNG, i've had 5 or 6 but never seen any of the high value div cards like Apo's / fiends etc

never seen the sword either

[warm scroll]

Seen one lock, no swords, several extra proj tattoos... I want to say probably 4-5

4 jewels, I think

[warm scroll]

that's a new one

[rough inlet]

WHAT YOUR RANK

[mortal yarrow]

more than 10 probably

[sullen dagger]

When will the league end?

[light adder]

no date set, except new league early ish december

[iron sky]

Mega F. Wtf. Haha

[warm scroll]

2000

I was trying to reroll Rakiata for the sword on the final battle of the tournament. She was offering me something I wasn't excited about... scours or something. Decided to reroll her even though I usually just push through anything that isn't Ahuana... and even though it wasn't a sword I was pretty pleased with the reroll

[fringe arch]

Ok imma be honest

I kinda wish Sentinels were the league mechanic made permanent rather than Sanctum

These r so much more fun

[indigo lotus]

I'd rather have them be a map mechanic and something you can spec into on the atlas tree, and just remove their crappy sentinel skill tree. just find one, pick it up, and have it follow you around with a recharge timer if the mechanic is on the map

i thoroughly believe that the atlas tree is the best mechanic ever added to poe, and the more mechanics that can be integrated in that tree, the better. I'd even like to see more "bigger upside with a downside" nodes, kind of like the new keystones

[next epoch]

they're neat but they don't really feel like they fit into the setting

[fringe arch]

I mean the sanctum doesn't really feel like it fits much into the setting either tbh

I don't like Sanctum mostly because of how much it has to force the rogue like aspect

I.E Resolve

[next epoch]

there's at least some attempt to tie it into existing lore. I don't find it particularly compelling but it's there

[fringe arch]

Sure but there's no reason the same couldn't be done with the Sentinels

[fringe arch]

I believe the same, it's the biggest reason why I prefer Sentinels

They just slot into everything

Including stuff the Atlas tree usually doesn't directly touch, such as Heist

Yes there are nodes that grant extra dabloons and blueprints but like

Sentinels directly interact with the content inside the heists

[next epoch]

(going further afield but the other league content that still bothers me is Essence. as far as I'm aware there's no real justification for why monsters are occasionally frozen in crystals, and no one remarks about it except kirac, once, for essence atlas missions)

[fringe arch]

Yeah lmao

Sentinels could be put at the begining of atlas missions and serve as a secondary augment to the entire system

Begining as in once you meet Kirac

Maybe they dig them up when they start exploring the Atlas but their extremely dangerous for mere non godslayers to use

[mortal yarrow]

Theyre kalguuran tech no

[fringe arch]

Idk man

They could be altered lore wise and 95% of players won't notice

And 5% is very generous

[mortal yarrow]

Think its kalguuran so it is already in lore tbf

[warm scroll]

Sanctum ties into existing lore in major ways, according to kittencatnoodle. Do you have alternate theories?

https://youtu.be/7QuY96FyhG4 for reference

[fringe arch]

Idk man

I just think their super neat

[proper widget]

sentinels are op and feel too good, obviously GGG does a good job avoiding 'too good' scenarios

[sweet jasper]

sorry, i'm sure this gets asked every 15min, when this league ending/

[silver kettle]

early Decemember is the target, exact date not yet announced

[sweet jasper]

ty

[atomic gale]

I started playing POE last week and enjoy it.

But I noticed now the current league ends at December

Are people playing non-league as well?

Or should I wait to December next Leauge ?

[light adder]

only like 10% play in standard, most people only play leagues

[atomic gale]

I see thanks

[tawdry plover]

You can still play until the league ends and then continue in standard if you wish. There will be about 1 week or so between leagues then people will start over again in december

[clever coral]

how hard is Death and Taxes? in event LA level 90... im at 70% and don't want to lose xp

i can clear white t15 maps np

will kirac's missions reroll if just run some white maps real quick?

[devout osprey]

if you use kirac to run white maps it will reroll

but if you use map device it stays

[clever coral]

ok pefect ty. i'll take the safer route

[ocean thistle]

Which is faster for leveling? Srs or absolution?

[cerulean shadow]

Hey guys quick question, me and a couple buddies just started PoE, and our characters are on ancestors league, when the league ends do ours characters get deleted?

or what's the difference between ancestors and normal?

[light adder]

chars and all items will be moved to standard.
most players don´t play that, and will make new char in the new league

[cerulean shadow]

Okay awesome so we're chill to keep playing normally on ancestors without any potential of losing all our progress

[clever coral]

can i migrate a toon from blast from the past to ancestor? wanted to transfer some items over but it says it will migrate to standard..

i found a hh and made a new toon to transfer over

[silver kettle]

no, there's no way to transfer from blast to the past to ancestor

that would only be possible if the event was parented to ancestor, which it is not (it's parented to standard)

[clever coral]

ahh ok thanks

[stable basalt]

wyhen does new league start again

[devout osprey]

8th dec

[stable basalt]

and its affliction?

[devout osprey]

thats the name yeah, we dont really know what it is yet

[stable basalt]

ok thanks

im tryin to decide what build i want to go for in next league probably bone shatter jug

[bronze cave]

Wait until patch notes

[dry tree]

any one for Aspirants farm?

[late cipher]

+proj tats are still selling at 10 dov each ... crazy this late in the league

[midnight crest]

i just want more bow gems.. i'm getting bored by bow

[void badge]

not really, its not like they can be removed & resold right?

[hoary oasis]

Is there a well written guide for Lightning Arrow Deadeye? I've watched Crouching Tuna's video about it but let's be honest, I see barely any details on Maxroll linked to the video. Am I not seeing the obvious on the website?

I'm used to pob or forum posts

[pulsar juniper]

I mean... get lightning arrow, level deadeye, craft 6l +3 bow, anoint return projectile, layercake defenses to the high heavens, laugh in screenwide clear.

[hoary oasis]

Sounds good, if you know what you're doing. I don't

[pulsar juniper]

So, that particular Maxroll guide is 6 pages.

generally there's different areas/sliders for the progression

Also, the last page has the PoB - https://poe.ninja/pob/jCz

click on there, at the top there's a "copy POB code" thing

[hoary oasis]

Oh, now I can see it, thanks

[pulsar juniper]

Maxroll guides are broken down kinda differently, but generally have the same info as the forums

just instead of the dropdown/spoiler page boxes, it's all up front

[hoary oasis]

Great, thanks

[lime orbit]

anyone wants to trade a 6M dps RF build for a TS? >.>

[iron sky]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-so-weak-gif-19589076

[pale hemlock]

Rf is a joke

For the casuals

[tribal ridge]

#Can someone please help get through the lowest ascendancy I was going to switch ascendancies but didnt think and refunded all my skill points beforehand xD

25 Chaos for the quick run lol

[drifting thicket]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[warm scroll]

Do y'all really like Dialla's better than just a normal rare armor with suppression and evasion for tota? I decided to give it a shot with phantasmal void sphere... the increased pulse frequency is nice and all... but the loss of avoidance from evasion and spell dodge from acrobatics makes it feel dodgy actually trying to channel

[viral prairie]

To those whom it may concern, let me recite you a tale of a dumb PoE player;

I have been doing the Cruel Custodian challenge, let me stress that my build isn't very good, but good enough for this (barely). This challenge requires you to juice Guardian maps in basically all ways possible. One of those ways is a minimum of 100% item quantity.

I didn't really understand how item quantity on maps works, so for 4 out of these 6 maps (I am at 5 now), I've been juicing these maps to a BASE of 100% quantity, oblivious to the fact that the map device and passive tree have added quantity that also counts towards this challenge.

So I've been wasting a mountain of scouring orbs, alchemy orbs and chaos orbs, aswell as giving myself several heart attacks trying to clear these excessively juiced maps, when all I needed was about 60-65%

Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk

[viral prairie]

I did the thing

[shrewd depot]

Anyone else having issues with the game? Enemies teleporting, you teleporting, a melee dude off screening you, etc?

No, they don't have flicker strike. They just all suddenly stop moving, teleport after a second and then kill you.

[sterile brook]

Sounds like you might be using Predictive mode, under Settings -> Network

Lockstep mode ensures there's no teleporting going on, however it does require pretty stable ping to feel fine. You should try out both modes

[shrewd depot]

I'm set to lockstep (auto). Should I switch to something else? For context, this is mainly happening within the Ancestor mechanic. However, I have been hearing, from guild mates, that they are often getting DC'd.

[sterile brook]

Auto means it'll adjust between predictive and lockstep based on your ping -- if your internet wasn't doing very well, you could end up being automatically switched to Predictive

[warm scroll]

working fine for me... NA servers. Maybe there's something screwy with your route to the game, try a different hub

[shrewd depot]

I set it to lockstep. My datacenter is about 2 hours from here and the ping is about 18ms.

[warm scroll]

What you're describing isn't ping itself, but ping instability. Hopefully lockstep fixes it for you

[shrewd depot]

Thank you. Will test it in a moment.

[next epoch]

Since people will probably start asking whether TotA is going core, here's the official answer (tl;dr "no"): #ggg-tracker message

[fresh dew]

Yeah I actually enjoyed this league more then sanctum so kinda sad it’s not going core anytime soon

On the flip side though I don’t think the power increase it would give as core mechanic will warrant leaving progression for. And by progression I mean stop doing maps to do something else. Much like delve.

[craggy goblet]

big disappoint, i liked the mode

[rough sundial]

whats the easiest way to get in on a 5ways?

i cant seem to find any being ran

[warm scroll]

There aren't a lot being run atm, even on TFT: https://poestack.com/tft/live-search?tag=five-ways

[hoary oasis]

Is damage from skills like Creeping Frost correctly shown in game? From what I understand it's both damage on hit and dot aoe left after hit. I had a +20% dot damage weapon that didn't seem to change damage that much, compared to old weapon

[devout osprey]

@hoary oasis the ingame damage numbers is very bad at this. people use Path of Building.

[hoary oasis]

Thanks. Is it possible to copy in-game item to pob?

[devout osprey]

yes ctrl + c over item, then ctrl + v into pob

[bleak tulip]

would it be worth to buy 70 scours to try for headhunter xd?

[light adder]

you mean to chance orb it? sure, if you already got a few thousand and just missing 70

[bleak tulip]

xd

[late cipher]

[warm scroll]

How dare you defile sacred wood?

So on my Dialla's question from the other day... apparently mageblood and a quartz flask fixes the spell dodge issue. Without one, I think I'd still suggest a rare spell suppression armorpiece to keep the capped spelldodge and dodge more of the annoyances so as to better channel with the cheese build

[late cipher]

probably depends on how risky your playing
if your impatient and take risky channels then the suppress rare is probably the better option

more than likely the main reason most people seem to be using Dialla's is because thats what the youtubers say to use

[warm scroll]

It's not the risky channels that are the problem, but the "death from on high" effects from Tawhanuku (still seems to stun, even with CI), Kiloava, Ikiaho, which have extremely long range. It's very difficult to channel those safely, and I think the time equation favors the rare if you can't cap spelldodge

[sonic stirrup]

You can get hit for 0 damage

And it isn't stun

Don't you still get the debuff if you block

[warm scroll]

I don't know how to describe it, but you understood what I meant

[late cipher]

as far as I know getting hit by projectiles uses your own stun avoidance chance, its only if your channeling that they guaranteed stun you
I have CI and dont think ive ever been stunned by Tawhanuku unless im channeling but I'm fully stunimmune

[warm scroll]

fair enough, I meant while channeling

And it could very well be that I'm getting hit by the block effect

but capped spelldodge seems to make that much less common compared to 62% or whatever I had without the quartz flask/mageblood

[late cipher]

yeah capped spell dodge is probably the single most effective defence for TOTA imo

[warm scroll]

kiloava is the one that was especially annoying since his aerial attack will one-shot you

[late cipher]

I have 90% evade and capped spell block / suppress on my setup and the only thing that generally kills me is Ikyassholes creeping frost shit, that stuff just melts me, even with 85% cold res

[warm scroll]

I want to ask viper if whoever came up with the names of the ancestors speaks japanese, because there's a couple funny ones. Ikiaho is "breathing idiot", and arohongui sounds a lot like "eats porn mags"

But yeah, the biggest things I die to are ikiaho's creeping frost and utula's bloody urine

I seem to have successfully stopped charging into Rakiata's waterwall thing

[devout osprey]

maori to english

arohongui = sympathy

utula = reward

[warm scroll]

TIL

[devout osprey]

but rakiata did not work, so probably not from maori

[tranquil pewter]

When will the next leage will start?

[silver kettle]

December 8. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3449738

[tranquil pewter]

Thanks bro❤️

[tranquil pewter]

What time in gmt+8?

[silver kettle]

league start? 3am

[tranquil pewter]

Yes bro what time zone is that?

[silver kettle]

that's what it is in GMT+8, since you asked

[tranquil pewter]

Noted bro

[hoary oasis]

Thanks

[hoary oasis]

Is it possible to check what kind of cluster jewels are valuable and which are trash? If so, how do I do that? I'd like to focus on Delirium and cluster jewel farming/crafting

They're not listed on poe ninja. Do I need to check all the possible combinations for small/medium/large ones?

[neat ice]

Just sort them by price?

[hoary oasis]

The thing is, how do I know if they even sell? Any price can be given to an item

[neat ice]

They will sell, u just lower the price if they listed for a long time as usual

[hoary oasis]

I see, thanks

I remember that some jewels are worth because of skills they have, some because of the amount of passive skills they provide, combined with bonuses/each skill

[sharp mauve]

has an1 you got a character in standard

[sonic stirrup]

Most do

[eager charm]

Did you have a question about std or?

[wet fractal]

Anyone who can help me with adding sockets to a corrupted item? vorici 8. vorioci havn't appeared to me yet xD

[sonic stirrup]

I think you're looking at legacy content

[wet fractal]

oh u can't do that in ancestor?

[sonic stirrup]

Are you maybe on poe fandom or did you just not read the top of the page on the wiki article saying it's legacy

[sonic stirrup]

Vorici as a master is gone

[wet fractal]

oooh, i didn't know. recently got backl to the game

[light adder]

for like, 4 years by now

[wet fractal]

so i can't add sockets to corrupted item anymore?

[sonic stirrup]

Your two options for modifying sockets on corrupted items are the crafting bench, for an extra vaal orb per regular currency, or tainted currency, which behaves differently and only works on corrupted items

[wet fractal]

oooooh

havn't even heard of tainted currency xD

[sonic stirrup]

So if it's 4 sockets, just benchcraft

If you need 5 or 6, you buy tainted jeweller's and then tainted fusings to link

Note that it's a 50/50 to add or remove a socket/link (from the biggest link group), so you'll always want to start with benchcrafting 4 sockets (or links) before you try using them. And if you fall below 4, you bench craft it back up

And while we're at it, might as well mention colouring

Tainted chromas ignore stat requirements, so check with chromatic calculator with all attributes set equal to see how many it would take, and then check normally and just remember that the cost will also be that many vaal orbs to compare your options

[drifting thicket]

Socket colour crafting calculator: http://siveran.github.io/calc.html

[wet fractal]

sheeeesh, ty ❤️ that is an awesome change

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

[warm scroll]

wtb atlas passive to stop one of these from wilting

[smoky geyser]

You can also use the bench to edit sockets with aditional vaal orb cost.

eg try t-fusing top 6l, goes to 4l
,
set it to5l with bench
t-fuse again.

If it wasn't corrupt you can also an use bench to add/remove sockets a base with a few white sockets, i do this with my deaths oath and get 4 off-colors via 3 white, to 4 sockets them to 3 sockets till i 1 off color, then put to 6, gaurenteed 2r2b2g using only jewlers

More usefull for smaller items like unique boots

Eg atziris step 2 red 2 blue

[hoary oasis]

Which builds do well vs Legion/Delirium/Blight, poison spark?

[neat ice]

Altogether? Yea spark is good, blade vortex too

[hoary oasis]

Not necessarily together but 1 build for all is even better

I'll look into those, thanks

Any up-to-date videos worth recommending?

[neat ice]

Caustic arrow good for blights, la deadeye, cf champ for deli/legion

[hoary oasis]

Thanks

[smoky geyser]

Any build is good, just depemds on the content you want to run and how your playstyle is,

i udually work builds backwards

I choose content i want rather than a build

Like leagestart id rather have an a tier mapper c tier bosser than the other way around, but week 3 id like to be capitalising on content i enjoy

For me i like sanctum and bossing, but also delerious high density maps
So i settle for earlygane soulrend trickster, about red maps he tyrns into a hex-miner boss/elite buster to fund my zoomy autobomber, usually death oath with 2 div investment, 4l vaal caustic arrow crap gear for reses with legs of glass

[neat ice]

Why would you need mapper, if you planning to do bosses, there are plenty builds that can farm invitations in first 8 hours and do ubers in day 2 gear, i miss your point, if you wanna farm maps you start as a mapper, if you wanna do bosses you start as a bosser

[smoky geyser]

I like to have both, it's just easier to start shadow than witch for me idk

[hoary oasis]

I'm a boomer, slow-play enjoyer 😅 That's why I plan to run Blight, ring anoints make it easy no matter what

[smoky geyser]

Your stronger than me, i envy you

[hoary oasis]

Am I?

[neat ice]

Sure, but its a lot of time wasted for respecing etc.

[smoky geyser]

I'm sucked into d o t or cwc builds, your probablt gigachad sissyphus spank and tank

[hoary oasis]

No, you need no damage nor survivability for Blight

Towers do all the work

[smoky geyser]

I duct know that scaled that well

[hoary oasis]

It's all about those two ring anoints - one freezes stuff, the other one does damage

[hoary oasis]

Is this BV ok or you meant a different setup?
https://youtu.be/EGumdpl52U4?si=cOhn7sTo6hzTC7VM

[neat ice]

I played only cold bv on occu, but i heard that poison is good too

[hoary oasis]

I see, I'll check cold one as well, thanks

[smoky geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ccPYk2NCQ

There's also this funny setup for it

[hoary oasis]

It's for 2nd character though, not a starter, right?

[sage thorn]

In case the news hasn't reached here yet, Kitten Cat Noodle's video focusing on "Hinekora's Wild Ride" comes out this Friday.

[raw saddle]

want to practice new build, any suggestion? Will try 1st suggestion. Only requirement is to not need to use my stockpiled currency

[serene roost]

Molten strike raider

There’s one guy with a league start MS / LS video on YT that actually is pretty good. His tree could use a little refinement, but that’s what I’ve been looking at for 3.23 I think

[raw saddle]

found it, it looks pretty interesting, will try it

[serene roost]

I played it for the 2nd event, and am testing another ssf play through right now. Highly suggest keeping momentum skill gem around for acts 1-2 at least, going for +1 strikes on tree earlier so you don’t have to mule a str char for ancestral call to lvl 4, and go for claws for that sweet lgoh asap, though whatever good weps you get are what you get in early campaign

[raw saddle]

it seems that scaling and gearing is veary like frost blade one, it might be pretty fun build

[serene roost]

It is a lot like frost blades tree wise also. Just a frenzy stacking variant instead of cold dmg, heatshiver, ect.

[serene roost]

And yes, it is a fun build. I got it into the 80s in the first few days of blast to the past. Claws make a huge difference for survivability in campaign. And earlier today I actually downed merviel(sp?) without dieing. Something I don’t normally do

[river prism]

question does the Tattoo of the Ramako Makanga works for mage skelletons?\

[pseudo bear]

Real quick question, when does the TOA league end?

Is it Dec 5th? I could swear I saw that, then saw that it was next week

[silver kettle]

Yes December 5. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3450169

[pseudo bear]

Thanks!

[terse nacelle]

it's next league's reveal on Nov 30th next week

[sudden bolt]

why cant i put my ramako makanga tattoo

[light adder]

that doesn´t look like 7 adjacent passives

[sonic stirrup]

Need to allocate one more

[sage thorn]

HINEKORA'S WILD RIDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCVpiIRIIM4

[mild ingot]

a lot of assumptions in that video

https://poedb.tw/us/Hinekora#HinekoraTextAudio

read hinekoras bullshit for yourself

[limpid orbit]

So right now ... if Ahuana offers you one div as reward ... the smart move is to reroll?

[late cipher]

I reroll any reward under a div in value

if its a single raw div i'd just take it

[limpid orbit]

I know rerolling a div sounds so bad ...
But the math ... 30 div for a makanga tattoo ... 6% chance to get a makanga tattoo on reroll ... 1.8 div average ...

AAAaaargh

[late cipher]

picture the scene ....
your offerred a raw div as a reward..
you reroll cos your a chad...
reward is a single green tattoo!!!!
loyalty tattoo of Ahuana ... FFFUUUU

[limpid orbit]

Actually there are two cheiftains, Ahuana with a div and kaom with crap, so scorning the div will give me two shots at the makanga ...

[limpid orbit]

Been there before ...

[late cipher]

TOO MANY DAMN TIMES LOL

[limpid orbit]

You jinxed it!

[novel oracle]

Are there any German Guilds who recruit new members?

[iron sky]

Nine

[raw saddle]

Im testing lvling of Death's Oath Occultis, what are other options to lvl it than Poison Conc? I dont like the idea of asking other players to get it on league start

[wide valve]

caustic arrow ? toxic rain ?

[dry knoll]

^ Witch doesn't get either of those before A3 either

[neat ice]

create ranger mule

[dry knoll]

Need to reach caverns, might be a wasted effort

[neat ice]

for ca?

[wintry geode]

if any1 needs acts carry or help with their build

i got u 🙂

PC only

[severe shadow]

Okay real talk how rare are reliquarg keys, I've played close to 300 hours this league, about 60 or so was done on a pure mf character and I've never seen a single one drop.

[terse nacelle]

😆 got one after played around 50 hours this league.

[honest egret]

i do like 200-300h per league of average experienced player doing shit in atlas, and average like 1 key per league

[neat ice]

600h this league zero mf dropped 4-5

[raw saddle]

Ranger mule seems good idea, and lvling with ca is smooth

[severe shadow]

So what I'm hearing is I just have bad luck with keys, I got an uber exarch key, managed to get an apo out of a stacked deck and found 4 seven year bad lucks but zero reliquary keys, feels bad.

[hoary oasis]

Don't worry, with luck like this you'll get that key soon and Apothecary from it

[shrewd depot]

Anyone else being DC'd when trying to enter a map?

[rocky nebula]

I'm gonna miss TOTA

such an awesome league mechanic

A shame I didn't commit to making a cheese build for it to maximise profit

[keen osprey]

looking for a forbidden flesh cobalt jewel for a scion need it to be slayer how much would it cost me thanks in advance

[sonic stirrup]

just check trade?

look at offline listings if none are online for an idea of its value

[keen osprey]

i know it going for around 140 to 170 chaos just have not be able to get one and everyone i reached out to is a no response

i am hoping maybe someone on here might have one if it was not for the fact that i need that certain one it is easy to find other wise i am fairly new i think about 3 days in the ancestor league and trying to get a feel for the game

[drifting thicket]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[keen osprey]

no trading understood I'm willing to buy it but i went over to the looking for group

[tribal ridge]

When is this league dropping to standard ?!

Please and Thank You 😏

[devout osprey]

it wont, but 5th of december anscestor ends

[sonic stirrup]

(The league mechanic isn't going core, so it won't be present in Standard, although your characters and stash aside from Silver Coins will be transferred over)

[lofty wolf]

think my league officially over

[barren crescent]

Bpl enjoyer

[lofty wolf]

[willow plume]

how do i find a aurabot to try out char potential :d

[tender lynx]

#1┃looking-for-group or tft

[noble python]

we did it

[smoky dust]

GRIND

[noble python]

we know for a fact tota isn't going core?

like ever?

[silver kettle]

Ever is a long time! It's not going core in 3.23, no statements have been made past that

[noble python]

It is my understanding a new mechanic isn't ever introduced immediately next season, regardless. So to say a new mechanic isn't initially going core is kind of expected.

[next epoch]

it's definitely happened before, just not recently.

[noble python]

ah ok

interesting. Where was it stated then Tota wouldn't go core?

I don't expect Tota to honestly either. I just want to know if that was stated anywhere specific

[light adder]

#old-game-news , scroll bit up

[silver kettle]

Direct link: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3450169

[noble python]

thank you

[sonic stirrup]

Well, sometimes, like with Sanctum, they'll decide to make it go core, but also clarify that it is only actually going to be available one league later.

Unlike Sanctum, they have also added all TotA exclusive uniques to the core drop pool.

Sanctum exclusive uniques were simply unobtainable for the league after sanctum.

So one can assume that they don't have any plans to make it core any time soon

But they didn't say they'll never make it core

[noble python]

My thought is if Tota is implemented later on it'll be nerfed reward wise. In that case, adding TOTA exclusive uniques will be done regardless. TOTA also as a mechanic is very build specific (at rank 2000)

I suspect Sanctum rewards will be nerfed next patch

Or whenever Sanctum is reintroduced

I've MADE a LOT in TOTA as a first season player. To the point my expectations of next league's mechanic profitability are probably not realistic (whatever profitability this endw up being)

[sonic stirrup]

I would be surprised if they add new uniques as rewards for tota ever, even if they reintroduce it. But I'm not sure if there is a precedent.

[light adder]

we got new harbinger stuff in harvest with infused beachhead and uniques if you count that

[noble python]

I meant adding Tota uniques to the standard pool (which GGG already announced for next league)

If Tota is ever reintroduced the overall amount of rewards may be nerfed

I'm literally sitting on almost 3 Mirrors of value from TOTA this season. I'm sure if others played TOTA this season consistently they would be as well.

I was at 766 Divs of extra stuff in value (wealthyexile) and five days later after farming TOTA and doing a few trades I'm at 1036 DIV value. (That's not counting what's on my characters. Just what's in stash)

[dull pewter]

wait did they take out helm enchants?

[summer wing]

does anyone know when the ancestor league characters are moved to standard league?

[silver kettle]

December 5

[summer wing]

tyvm

[next epoch]

In future leagues, yes, along with glove, boot, and belt enchants. I don't see anything in the notes about removing them from existing items, so I guess Standard folks will get a few new kinds of bizarre legacy gear

[buoyant solar]

400 hours in the game
I can’t play these damn acts anymore. Cant I just skip to maps? Please? Like why do I have to play the same freaking acts again that I have played COUNTLESS times!?

[sterile brook]

You can pay for an act rush in one of the trading servers. 1h 30 minutes to act 10, a little longer with lab!

https://youtu.be/nY8cZHH9pKE

[buoyant solar]

Or GGG could fix their game to not require that????????

[proper widget]

in poe2 u get new acts just w8 patiently

[fierce nacelle]

When this league over

[maiden mesa]

is will poe be f2p? or have a tag price like D4?

[neat ice]

Its already f2p

[serene roost]

F2P, eventually you’ll want to buy stash tabs to trade/hold enough stuff, but they go on sale every 3 weekends or so, and normally are the weekend of leaguestart

[rotund surge]

How does the poe community feel about the new leauge and all the changes, they good or not?

[sonic stirrup]

Hype changes overall

Some people will always whine

Don't listen to the ones that say any particular skill is nerfed until we see trans versions

[rotund surge]

whats the most important changes?

Saw the life stream (not the q&a) but did not read any patch notes

will the new gems change the meta a lot or are they just minimal changes?

[sonic stirrup]

As GGG said, this will be the biggest meta shake up, uh, I forgot the second half of that sentence

Anyways, in a long long time

We lose alt qual, helmet enchant, and treshold jewels for new trans gems that change the actual text on gems to be different

Affliction has something like a secondary ascendancy Class to grab

Ultimatum returns

[rotund surge]

Mh. Does not sound appealing to me personally. But probably still going to play. (Maybe) (I alos realised that I posted in the wrong channel)

[noble python]

tbh, losing enchants for every eligible gear piece seems like a power nerf aggregately

[sonic stirrup]

You just lost helmet, glove, boot, and belt, and only for non-blight uniques

[noble python]

that is a ton of enchant boosts though

[sonic stirrup]

And the loss of helmet enchantments won't be a power loss overall

Nobody cares about glove enchants

So what you lost is belt and boot

[noble python]

many useful enchants on helmets are damage % / aura reservation based

[sonic stirrup]

So?

They didn't remove helmet enchantments for no reason

They removed them to make space for a replacement system

So until you see trans gems, you can't assume it's a nerf to anything

[noble python]

Unless I'm mistaken my understanding is the new lab system is mainly focused on upgrading gems

[sonic stirrup]

Yes

[noble python]

while it's a new system, this system impacts gems and does not replace enchants on a piece of gear

[light adder]

how do you know there won´t be some reservation quality on some gems to replace that?

[noble python]

I don't, but if this isn't in the current notes I don't want to assume it does until shown otherwise

[sonic stirrup]

You literally don't have the list of trans gems yet

[noble python]

right now with the information currently available this appears to be a nerf to me.

[sonic stirrup]

If everything is nerfed, nothing is nerfed

[noble python]

that's only if you think each season interacts completely independent of every other season

like, common knowledge of one season can carry over from a prior season to the next.

even if some content is different

[marble wharf]

Nice, regret orbs. I can finaly respec into a better build than this hot garbage

[quasi bison]

beachhead share party 3/6 - link beachhead ign: xddrolling

[grand reef]

Have they said when the league migration will happen? I forgot if its a set amount of time before the new league launch or if they randomly do it.

[silver kettle]

december 5

[grand reef]

was that posted somewhere that I missed? I want to take note for future reference

[silver kettle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3450169

slightly hidden away

[grand reef]

im still kinda blind

appreciate it

ty

[silver kettle]

the timing is always the same relative to the new league start though, fwiw

[rough bobcat]

corrupted gems will be possible to transfigurate in that new divine font?

Also what about transfigurating vaal gems?

[tranquil beacon]

Most likely not

[rough bobcat]

Thats bad if i will have to use separate gem slot for vaal version :/

I mean that will be possible to corrupt after transfigurate, which will lead to vaal transfigurated version skills ramp up on price

[tranquil beacon]

Basically like alt gems before yeah

[potent mulch]

So, any ideas u guys came with for the best builds that can survive ultimatum ?

[stoic estuary]

what could be a great league starter if i only want to play 1 character this league

[fervent glacier]

Are they getting rid of gem flipping? Can't remember seeing anything about it, but people have been saying so

[light adder]

will no longer work on skill gems, still on (non awakened) support gems

[tidal notch]

The vaal Version can be on trans. gems, they just need to be trans. before being corrupted.

[rocky nebula]

corrupting gems will be riskier too

[restive zealot]

am i blind? Why can't I find the starting time for afflicition? I just see dec 8th everywhere but no actual time?

[light adder]

countdown on homepage

[restive zealot]

yes, it still doesn't tell me what time

[light adder]

pretty sure there is some mystical way to add 6 hours and 18 minutes to current time and get that

[restive zealot]

🙄

[celest plank]

are talking about ''mathematic'' i've heard about this spell before

[wet plaza]

mathemagic*

[fierce nacelle]

Do you guys think that vaal skill gems will be able to be transfigured or no

[grizzled moon]

no

[fierce nacelle]

lame

[gleaming zodiac]

you can have a transfigured vaal version but the vaal effect will be the same as the normal gem

[rose wharf]

if you check the mathematical calculations you will find out that it is correct every time

[crude lynx]

I might need help

[grizzled moon]

gonna have to ask

[royal flower]

What are people thinking about league starting? I’m trying to decide between La dead eye and boneshatter jugg. New player, this will be my first time actually starting at the start of the league. Have only ever gotten to yellow maps, never really pushed hard

[stray talon]

@royal flower i have the same choice. Dépends ur playstyle they are totzlly différent. LA is ranged / low defense and BS is mêlée / tank

LA more fast but mbe a lil bit more hard and squishy

[royal flower]

Yeah I generally play ranged but am new to Poe so not sure what will feel better later on

[stray talon]

Both are good i think.

Imo bs mbe easier cuz tanky. And if We need labyrinth farm for gems prefer got a tank for traps

[prisma nest]

so it's better to look for the affliction mechanics before killing everything else in a map?

[grizzled moon]

hopefully it spawns at the start

[late cipher]

they confirmed Affliction will always spawn at the start

[silver rover]

Yep just like a deli mirror

[pliant ravine]

do tinctures work with bow totems/ballistas?

[devout osprey]

i would assume so because ballistas uses your bow

[safe pier]

apologies if I've missed somewhere it being stated but will every anomalous/divergent/phantasmal variant gem still exist within the transfigured gem system? (or is it possible that only some of quality variant benefits will have been kept as transfigured gems)

[silver kettle]

No. There are significantly fewer transfigured gems than there were alt qualities, only damage skills are getting them, and they tend to be more extreme changes to the skill than were possible with alt qualities

[safe pier]

thank you

[silver kettle]

That said, there are some cases where interesting behaviour from an alt quality has been preserved

[safe pier]

is information regarding what has been and hasn't been kept available explicitly somewhere?

[silver kettle]

not yet. transfigured gems will be shown off in batches over the course of this week

[balmy moss]

boneshatter pathfinder

[sonic stirrup]

Will we get trans versions of dps support gems like Pris Burst?

I understand if that's secret

[dusty umbra]

' only damage skills are getting them ' - viper replied it above

[sonic stirrup]

Which isn't an answer to the question I had

Prismatic Burst is a damage skill

It's just not a Skill Gem

It also begs the question of whether or not a herald gets trans versions

But eh, we'll see in a few days either way

[wild arch]

What about boneshatter and trauma support attack speed alts? Losing those hurts quite a bit

[thin otter]

Does Affliction Wisp affect later-spawned monsters like Breach and Abyss?

[bronze cave]

yes

[thin otter]

So is there any chance that Wisp will affect Ultimatum Monster that doesn't drop loot?

[rain wagon]

ultimatum monsters aren't spawned to be possessed until you start the ultimatum

Same concept as maps with bosses that don't exist until you encounter them

[tender ibex]

I heard there were teasers for certain "affliction flask" mods. I don't see them in News or in GGG-Tracker - I'd love for these kinds of teasers to be found in the News channel as to not feel excluded from news when posted on other platforms

[rain wagon]

They haven't posted anymore aside from what's shown in the trailer

[sonic stirrup]

There's a couple tinctures in the actual affliction post

https://www.pathofexile.com/affliction

And the rest I think are in the video there

[tender ibex]

It was brought up by a very popular and reliable streamer. The two mods in question are not seen in the official affliction page afaik

lemme double check to make sure

the two mods that were mentioned are "all damage can ignite" and "all damage can poison" - I don't see them in the official post

[sonic stirrup]

All damage can poison is definitely in the video

[tender ibex]

oh ok! thank you

[sonic stirrup]

And I'd guess the other one is too, but I don't remember

Theoretically might've been elsewhere

[tender ibex]

when I asked where they saw the news they said it was a twitter post

[sonic stirrup]

But most official teasers elsewhere should be collated in the affliction teasers post in the news on the poe website

[tender ibex]

right, that's what I was confused about

which video are you referring to btw? Not the trailer right?

[sonic stirrup]

https://youtu.be/pE2D4bgTeIQ?si=89TjVs7z8DkIwfyz
Content reveal

I forgot that's not the one on the same page since their thumbnails are almost the same

[tender ibex]

There we go! Oh man thank you so much for clearing that up. Found them emediatly

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

[late cipher]

pretty sure they said heralds would not be getting trans gems in the q+a

[shadow locust]

are the new ascendancies in addition or instead of base ascendancies?

[sonic stirrup]

Addition

[shadow locust]

ooh
well in that case they seem really cool

[crimson blaze]

no

[timid bane]

Anyone know when things like pob get updated for the new league?

[gleaming zodiac]

usually after the torrent get released since data is getting data mined from it 👀

[crimson blaze]

If I don't want to change my playstyle much, it looks like the charm woodscendancy if the least intrusive one, right? Just check if the NPC has any good charms, and no need to juggle corpses or lose a flask slot.

[grizzled moon]

certainly looks like the most plug & play

[icy fog]

Poe Planner Atlas tree is updated, Pob needs lots more gem info etc

they dont even have the new qualities changed yet

[sonic stirrup]

The only passive change is accuracy mastery

As for gems, well, we don't even have the new ones yet

[icy fog]

we also dont know what dark effigy does or have the numbers on the new curses.
they need to code the new ascendancies etc. itll be a bit still probably day before

[pseudo spoke]

We are still waiting for the rest of the gems to be released correct or has there been more information?

[icy fog]

yeah we know barely any of them

we can assume some like ele hit/wild strike probably have 1 for each element blocking the others.
we can assume skeletons have archers.

but yeah was hoping for another one today but instead they showed a charm we could have assumed existed

[pseudo spoke]

Well it sucks not knowing anything about them before the release. Especially with the amount of them that has to exist as a bare minimum.

[icy fog]

then like vortex/Rf prob have the pre-change versions but we dont know the numbers

oh for sure

[silver kettle]

we'll be releasing batches of them throughout the week

[silver kettle]

not to put too fine a point on it but combat focus isn't going anywhere

[icy fog]

Oh okay wasnt sure on that one ty.
so are we getting a full list at some point or is it a community effort to find them all?

[silver kettle]

I assume the intention is to show all of them before launch, though I can't 100% confirm that

[icy fog]

fair enough.

[hybrid fog]

should i leaguestart glacial hammer for the meme

[icy fog]

took a bit of a hit from heatshiver

i started trauma GC last league was fine

i meanGH

[hybrid fog]

i should give it a try i wanna try something plain

[icy fog]

its cheap out the gate, frostbreath goes a long way, then the mastery for 5% damage taken per second theyre frozen up to 50%

[hybrid fog]

also saw how the qual got buffed

[icy fog]

yeah just more consistent freezes

[hybrid fog]

yah

[visual axle]

hullo

whats the league start meta?

[grizzled moon]

look up tytykiller twitter

[rare junco]

Was also thinking of doing detonate dead even before the official patch notes. Never tried it before. Hoping it’s solid

[visual axle]

is that like a general meta or a racing meta?

[grizzled moon]

general

hard to define a meta before the league starts

[gleaming cliff]

The meta shakeup is so big that I doubt we´ll even have a defined meta

Maybe 1 month into the league

Perhaps even after

[visual axle]

fair enough

a friend told me to do toxic rain pathfinder but i forgot that was console 😭

so maybe ill also try detonate dead

[covert nacelle]

probably just scroll through the last league’s league starters and pick whatever hasn’t been changed much, is fine

[icy fog]

DD is pretty safe so is TR.

TR you basically just need 10% extra inc aoe to make up for the quality change

i forget the magic number as i havent played it in the last couple league but if you look at a 3.22 guide you just need to find an extra 10%

you also get curse explosions from the new league mechanic ascendancy

[gleaming cliff]

Cyclone got buffed so

Like 0.1% DPS and more SPEED

[covert nacelle]

didnt someone figure out that the aoe is shit tier now though?

[gleaming cliff]

That would be sad

[covert nacelle]

might still be fine as a shockwave enabler but shockwave cyclone is the definition of mid

[icy fog]

didnt it also get potentially more aoe

[gleaming cliff]

The duality of cyclone

[icy fog]

you cant make it remotely good because its all everyone will play lol

[gleaming cliff]

Ye

[icy fog]

I'm probably going one of the steel skills on deadeye on friday not settled on what yet

[arctic cargo]

What's a good leaguestarter?

[rain wagon]

MS Jugg

[swift zenith]

DD ele, TR PF, EA champs are probably the easy ones that stayed either untouched or got a buff

[digital kelp]

Why ghassy looked ao hype about ultimatum, ia there a specter thats broken ?

[gleaming zodiac]

i hope we'll have the same league start as ultimatum 😈 , crashing for 4 hours 🤣

[visual stone]

what i can use for a league starter that i can migrate to a RF later

im not finding any guides for rf yet, probably ppl waiting for trans gems before posting guides

[icy fog]

yeah we get hydra as a specter, and assumingly probably a ton of other bosses

[stable basalt]

gonna be doing armour stacking thats one thats always a good solid build

[violet nymph]

rf dead

[north crow]

Question I'm confused by from the live stream and pictures

The lab has options to transfigure gems, does one option transfigure the gem into it's alternate form and another gives you a random of of the same color? Or are both random?

[charred drum]

man. That Vaal BV buff is probs worth playing arround. I get that its only 12% more damage for base BV but Vaal BV also getting the Hitrate is streight up 50% more dps / hits. 125% with an Ashes.

[covert nacelle]

unless you only count league start RF, RF ain't dead

it's still a zdps build but hey you can invest in it now and not feel like you're capped at 10m dps

[swift zenith]

wait for the alt gems to release, but look for a templar league starter, srs guardian probably the easiest

[vestal token]

anyone got a CI trickster league start?

[visual stone]

nah the rf god already posted a video about and it still maybe even stronger then before later

[frosty heath]

nothing is dead when u sink 50 hours a week into a build...

[swift zenith]

ci is kinda hard for league start, you need to cover for it too much

[frosty heath]

Ci is super easy leaguestart with the ghostwrithe chest.

[swift zenith]

can it be considered league start I wonder

[frosty heath]

use this until you get actual ES gear, it's a 1c unique day 1 and don't go Ci until you get a decent chest, play hybrid

switch to Ci when u get gear, play hybrid and it'll feel like Ci, but not

max chaos res pre-red maps will feel immunity

[swift zenith]

what skill would you go to? spark, frost blades, vortex lost a lot

[frosty heath]

too many good things to name off

[untold dragon]

Do we know for certain whether tinctures are attack based only or just when directly specified??

[frosty heath]

spark and frostblades got huge buffs

u dont even need perfect -7 rings/amulets because of inspiration changes

[swift zenith]

tinctures are applied on weapons, so you must hit with the weapon (spells dont do that)

[frosty heath]

the real question is what ascendency is everyone going for bone shatter, im going pathfinder

[untold dragon]

Yup, that's one way to interpret that. But if a weapon has the Culling Strike affix, it grants the player culling strike even with spell skills.

usually only attack speed and damage mods are local to the weapon

[sonic stirrup]

Not quite. Poison related mods are local, accuracy is always also local. And you also forgot crit chance, and the important distinction that only specifically increases to phys, and added damage, are local.

Another thing to consider is that conditional mods are never local, unless specified

[icy fog]

This node is what makes me feel they're attack only

If they weren't this node would be just hit and not hit with a weapon

[swift zenith]

yes, it is specific on hits with weapon, culling strike applies to hits and that is why it applies to spells

[stable basalt]

anyone going boneshatter next league?

if so what guide are you gonna follow?

[digital kelp]

Hydra like one of the guardians ?

[icy fog]

@digital kelp yes it was shown in the trailer, they also had the beach boss and the crater boss.

So I'm assuming there will be multiple map bosses as specters.

Along with the ones that used to only spawn on alt desecrate(I assume)

Also this is probably going to lead to lots more viable utility specters

The hydra specter casts hatred.

[digital kelp]

Do we have them on poedb yet ? Or until season release ?

[icy fog]

Nope, pob doesn't even have the new qualities unless they got them in the last few hours.

That's not counting the new ascendancies, transgemder gems, charms, etc. It'll be a while still

[digital kelp]

Should i even try and go necro then ? Prob 2nd chart safer huh

[icy fog]

The new corpses are also kinda clunky to get.

They don't add to your desecrate pool, so you need to get multiple, if any die you need to buy more etc.

You can go necro, just don't plan on rocking hydra specters immediately.

[quick dragon]

corrupting fever or lightning arrow next league?

[sturdy grove]

this is new right? from the 3.23 content reveal lacerate

[minor ermine]

What are you referring to? The darkness? Yes that is the league mechanic...

[sturdy grove]

oh nah just I thought it was a new skills, turns out its just lacerate

[barren crescent]

There are no new skills, just the new transformed versions which you could count as new skill in some cases like raining zombies

[short blade]

This has been clarified in the recently asked questions post now

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3452002

[silent heart]

since they change ralakesh to be like this,does this mean even if you dont have any charge you will still get the stats that provided by the charge? like for example i get maximum critical strike chance stats that give by power charge without actually have the charge?

[barren crescent]

I believe it will work identically for that purpose, how I read the change is that they kill discharge with it

[silent heart]

disharge die so other build buffed...thank you

[wild arch]

Nothing got buffed

Discharge just died and that's it

[violet nymph]

will the archmage skillgem be changed?

[wild arch]

Did you see anything in the patch notes?

[violet nymph]

well i didnt know if it could be a transfigured skill gem

or if support gems were not included

this is why im asking

[clear anchor]

Plenty of stuff got buffed. Meta just got shaken up. Also, just wait until all gem effects are revealed

[wild arch]

We were talking about ralakesh boots >_>

[bronze ivy]

I figure the second ascension will make up for a lot of lost power

Outside of skills that were gutted

[unkempt pecan]

I am literally unable to wait for the new gems.

[craggy ice]

Are the whisps in the forest just around you, or are they following you? Because if they are just following, it seems like Flicker would just teleport away and be in trouble

[vital grove]

Here to cross my fingers for an alternative RF version possibly scaling with mana and doing lightning dmg to keep mana=light dmg theme going. 🤞🤞🤞

[thick stratus]

Tinctures do not work on minions that are based on your weapon, such as Dancing Dervish.
This also the case for bama? Since theyre minion that uses our weap 🤔

And that one handed sword unique for skellies

[icy fog]

Support gems aren't included.
Who knows if this update is received well maybe supports will be done in a league or two.

@thick stratus I assume when the weapon unequips it disabled the tincture

[thick stratus]

Ill just assume it wont work for bama/skellies 😔

[icy fog]

It might with that since it doesn't disable your weapon. But I'm not 100% on that one.

Like iron mass skeletons?

They wield a copy of your weapon

If it's coated maybe?

[hazy bough]

Do we have any info on why people won't just run normal lab for the transfigured gems? Is it that the pool of rewards is better in divine font in higher level labs?

[bleak crypt]

it might be faster to get your specific gem if you run normal lab but im pretty sure that they mentioned, that you have better rewards in the higher labs

like the upgrade to an exceptional gem, i dont expect the normal lab to have that

[foggy ocean]

So with the wisps coming back to whatever area your in is it similar to delirium where they get extra abilities to use or is it just stat increases for the monsters they affect

[icy fog]

@foggy ocean more closely related to sentinel

[foggy ocean]

I didn't play sentinel so I don't know what they did

[gusty bridge]

whats the next league like?

• Killfest*(Abyss/Breach/Bestiary)*? or
• rush on a timer*(Delirium)*?
• stop-think-choose*(Expedition/Betrayal/Blight)*?

[grizzled moon]

next league has no timer, you just expend a resource to move however

[waxen kindle]

like delve but blind

[grizzled moon]

so most close to stop-think-choose but its not particularly meant to be slow either

[lunar yacht]

My version of next league will definitely be stop-think-choose

[left glacier]

I think its gomna be kinda like a mini delve

You can only travel so far and so you wanna uncover as much with the limited resource

[icy fog]

@lunar yacht same

@left glacier yeah it's almost like delve/synth where while you don't have a timer you do have limited juice per run

[violet nymph]

that would be amazing

[mystic bolt]

Every new league I am more and more confused that Kirac Farming hasn't been touched.
Either by removing it or by giving us a way to uncomplete maps.
Right now it feels so.. unintended..

Or am I crazy?

[left glacier]

Kirac farming you mean just doing kirac missions?

[mystic bolt]

No, I mean purposefully not completing the best map for div card Farming and thus guaranteeing getting it with explorer reports.

[left glacier]

Ah

[mystic bolt]

It's in the game for three leagues at this point, I think.

[left glacier]

Well if once you do that mission it gets comoleted so

And also completed maps still show up

[mystic bolt]

No.
The map only gets completed once you kill the boss.
An explorer reports guarantee at least one map you haven't completed.

[left glacier]

Oooh

A div card mission is still not guaranteened tho

Also the good div card isnt guaranteed either

[mystic bolt]

I never did this before because I was sure it wasn't intended..
But there was so much time to fix it.. So I gotta believe it's okay.

[left glacier]

100% ethical :)))

Also div card drops are weighted l and every map has multiple div cards

Id say its balanced

[mystic bolt]

Don't know the full math behind it, but you get around 30c average per map (with a large sample size).
The reports are dirt cheap after week one.

[left glacier]

But you still need to get kirac missions

[mystic bolt]

True.

I am not saying it's op

Just that it's weird how it works

Like.. Once you complete the map, you cannot go back ever.

That's like as if Shaper was dead for ever after killing him :D

[left glacier]

Emergent mechanic

[tardy spear]

When do new supporter packs come out

[silver kettle]

On the weekend

[tardy spear]

Ok ty

Wish they released sooner tho before the launch so we can buy them beforehand

[icy fog]

When talking about the gcp vendor recipe they did say something like "it still works on supports for now" so that could be taken 2 ways:
They're planning on removing it

Or they're planning on doing the same with supports.

But this is all theoretical

[violet nymph]

i just want archmage buffs

building mana to also have more defense and offense is appealing to me

[violet nymph]

when does the league release?

tomorrow?

[narrow pagoda]

8th im pretty sure.

[violet nymph]

fuckkkk

right in the middle of my work week

[narrow pagoda]

take a long weekend

[silver kettle]

there's a countdown on https://www.pathofexile.com/ if you want the exact time

but yeah 8th

[violet nymph]

i haven't played poe since uh

sentinel league i think?

loved that league.

this one looks just as fun

[narrow pagoda]

Just want to see how the builds hold up with all the changes.

[violet nymph]

annoyed they nerfed ashes of the stars though

what do they gain out of nerfing a game that's single player focused anyway?

[light adder]

meta shifts

and ashes is still bonkers with new gem quality

[violet nymph]

they could do that by buffing

[mystic bolt]

Okay.
They are now buffing Tornado Shot by 800%
Now what? Every other build is now shit in comparison and we stop playing after a month.

[violet nymph]

im fine with that, it means by stuff doesnt change

my stuff*

i just dont like it when stuff i have changes in a negative way

[narrow pagoda]

i still like my ice spear totems. they increased the crit dmg but reduced the project speed. so not so bad

[violet nymph]

i ran poison spark

it basically got destroyed

[mystic bolt]

Okay, I can respect that.
But you should also respect that this would be an unpopular opinion.

[violet nymph]

before that i ran archmage

it got destroyed 😦

[violet nymph]

I doubt that. If you take everyone an ask "would you rather have buffs, or nerfs" many more people would rather choose balance by buffs than balance by nerfs.

who the hell wants to get nerfed, ever? lol

[visual stone]

i personally dont like game being easy

[light adder]

people that enjoy not playing the same thing again and again

[visual stone]

if u buff everything to be strong u beat all content so fast

[livid lake]

item is used in almost every build for many leagues, its too strong, trying to buff everything to compensate is not the answer.

[violet nymph]

too easy of a game would be bad

[visual stone]

thats why i just play non meta builds

[livid lake]

ashes is stronger now than it was before, it lost 20% rmr, and gained up to 20% more damage on some skills

[visual stone]

normally i pick a skil that i never played and have a beauty mtx

[violet nymph]

i just pick stuff i think looks or plays cool

[visual stone]

and fuck meta

[violet nymph]

but also needs to be decent

[visual stone]

and in 90% of the cases it needs to be 1 button build

[violet nymph]

i actually really like the sorceress build i had

[livid lake]

for most, changes to the build meta are the only reason they play, and that just so happens to have some negative affects on certain builds

[violet nymph]

elementalist rather

it was wave of conviction and uh, something else.

i cant remember

[visual stone]

i really like RF

Flicker and ballistas

[violet nymph]

i heard RF got destroyed

[visual stone]

so normally i play those

[violet nymph]

hope theres a transfig gem to make it good again

[narrow pagoda]

RF will be more damage based instead of survival

[violet nymph]

dont you mean vice versa?

[narrow pagoda]

wont be a big tank anymore

[icy fog]

@violet nymph same I loved playing archmage OoS before they changed OoS

[violet nymph]

cause it requires more hp and ES?

to get the damage it had?

[visual stone]

pohx just made a 12h live with 1k+ viewers planning some rf options

he prob launching a video soon

[icy fog]

It's still very likely the 3.22 rf is the transgemder version

[narrow pagoda]

right now its a % they are changing it to. so the more hp/es the harder to sruvive lol

survive*

[violet nymph]

dear god

lmao

[visual stone]

ye we got transex gems now

need to wait

to plan builds

[violet nymph]

im crying over here

[icy fog]

Lmao

[livid lake]

Yeah no, we're not doing that

[violet nymph]

i gotta clean my monitor thanks to you lol

[narrow pagoda]

i just want to see the skill tree so i can start mapping already

[violet nymph]

brb

its probably too disrespectful

give nthe blue persons response

[visual stone]

what if my RF identify as another gem

id get fucked while planning my build

[violet nymph]

please stop

my sides

yall ar ethe best, okay getting some wipes to clean my monitor from the water i spat all over it

you bastards lol

[visual stone]

rofl xD

[livid lake]

Next?

[narrow pagoda]

woah woah are you calling us Dumb with that name.

offensive

[violet nymph]

next what?

what is next?

@livid lake

[muted pilot]

Is kinetic blast considered a weapon attack? Do we know if tinctures would apply?

[covert nacelle]

yes and yes (because it's an attack)

[muted pilot]

Thank you!

[dreamy raven]

Is Toxic Rain ballista path good build for this league with ultimatum as core?

[swift zenith]

nothing big changed for it, so it is still a good league starter

ballista is more of an extra for TR too, casting it yourself is the standard

[dreamy raven]

or is there more fun and good build then it?

As I have been playing RF jugg only sof ar

[swift zenith]

for sure there are, many of the old league starters stayed, and some new may appear

[blazing grove]

Has it been confirmed if cannibalised faith gives 25% or 75% life cost as phys spell damage?

[dreamy raven]

hmm. I C. ty

[winged wedge]

TR Ballista feels fast and does a lot of damage while you can move around. But, it might not feel great for some content because the damage js delayed a bit

[potent mulch]

what about bone shatter juggernaut guys ?

[winged wedge]

Still solid, can do basically everything.

[potent mulch]

or what are your suggestions for good builds that can survive ultimatum

[winged wedge]

Not bows, I have heard

[dreamy raven]

I would have gone RF again but the nerf aint worth it unless phox saviour do some changes

[dreamy raven]

and hear i heard range no meele. thats why I finalize TR ballista

[potent mulch]

can u list me some good ones

[winged wedge]

Bows will be a pain if you have the "Stand in the circles for x time" Ultimatums. Very rippy

[potent mulch]

mostly tanky ones

[solemn star]

guys, what's a good starter build to do ultimatum?

[potent mulch]

what about Hexblast mines?

[winged wedge]

Mines or traps should be good, yes

[potent mulch]

cool

[winged wedge]

Guardian SRS + Big Burny Boy should also do well

[potent mulch]

gotcha