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sullen cloud
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so if you go up up on the first two choices, you can only go down to the 4th node there

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same with up down up or down up up

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but if you go down up down or down down up then you'll be at the lower of the T4 nodes, which is connected to a T5 node

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but given what it is, you won't 🙂

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You can only progress along the connections that exist, in other words

native ether
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I've would have shared a screenshot If I could but what meant was I've got a weapon with 2 paths from the start point, one is 1 node long. If I went the path which ends with 1 node but still have 2 points left can I go to the other direction from the start point?

sullen cloud
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or a more extreme example

native ether
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Exactly like that

sullen cloud
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if you go down at the start, you're done

native ether
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Oh, okay

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Thank a lot

sullen cloud
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which is unfortunate because the last node is this

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and the down node is this so they're both nice

native ether
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In my case I'll be losing 8% as but still got flat phys accuracy and weapon range so still really nice

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Thanks again, you helped a lot

sullen cloud
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no problem

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god, I wish someone would actually respond about these bloody chromatic orbs

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why do I keep playing builds that require 5 off colors argh

wheat gulch
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Sorry, I meant for Crucible depth - If I wanted depth 5 potential on a unique item, which Ilvl min would I need to find

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Trying to hit the Firestorm Crucible passive on my Martyr of Innocence Highborn Staff

odd gate
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how do i keep my golem alive during crucibles, it gets one shot by the storm thingies

marsh oracle
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how do u play this crucible?

I've been avoiding it because leveling offhands turns off all my auras and would be a pain in the fudge

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and then I can't level up any gems if i do that

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rather just ignore it

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and then im collecting bases like im doing the chaos recipe 😭

sonic stirrup
sonic stirrup
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lol

sullen cloud
fair aspen
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only one i've got was 20 scouring orbs on step three lol

marsh oracle
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hmm how do I unhide opal scepter in filterblade

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time to login

past spire
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Hi i need some help or a guide how to correctly fusion crucible trees on a yellow item,
First item i had :
Node 1 +cold damage , node 2 +accuracy ,node 3 +explicit modifier
Second item i had :
Node 1 +attack speed, node 2 cast speed and node 3 support by lvl 10 combustion
I fusionned item 2 on the top and item1 bottom,but i got the same tree on item 1 as before :/

odd gate
sullen cloud
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well that's more obvious than I'd realized

sullen cloud
west surge
sullen cloud
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It's a UI option

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I switched it up to look different, I think it's supposed to be accessible somehow

ripe parrot
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talk about no nerf for crucible monsters at max charge incoming, take cover

sullen cloud
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Oh it's supposed to make some fake 6 links more obvious

west surge
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imagine interacting with the league mechanic

west surge
sullen cloud
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I've been blasting fully charged crucibles since I hit maps, most of the time

west surge
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I don't want to brick my build so I'm not touching it

sullen cloud
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I'm actually not sure what the complaining is about apart from some mod combinations being slow and getting killed occasionally when I'm dumb enough to stand in the circle

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Eh, you should be revealing bases in maps

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Don't have to reveal your main weapon (though it's usually a good idea) but other stuff to get ready to smash it into your base later

west surge
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the problem is that it's kalandra all over again

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mobs with higher EHP than some of the pinnacle boses

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that drop nothing

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what is GGG thinking

sullen cloud
west surge
heady meadow
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Crucible nerf, wowzah

robust fjord
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does crucible feel good now?

sullen cloud
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Crucible is surprisingly consistent when you're actually smashing bases together

west surge
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is it only a nerf or did they made them drop loot now?

sullen cloud
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Finding good bases would be painful except that there's a million of them on trade

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For literally nothing. 1-5c for most decent trees, say 25c for the geode to smash them together

west surge
dim walrus
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So w8 based on what I read in this new patch does that mean that we weren't suppose to fully channel the Crucible Passive Skill Tree but instead interrupt the process like halfway through? because I always fully channel every time although this had as a consequence to get some rare mob a few times that I'm unable to kill for example those that have life leech...

sullen cloud
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You were supposed to interrupt channeling if you're having trouble killing them

west surge
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or even 25% if ur build is not up and running yet

dim walrus
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I didn't even knew we can do that, channel less than max, I learn it by accident 😛

west surge
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I feel like ballistas would be a good build for this league

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drop them and run around dodging the overtuned rares

sullen cloud
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Ballistas are a very good build for this league, can confirm

west surge
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I play melee so I don't have this luxury

sullen cloud
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Drop a bunch as they spawn, run away, spawn some once your ballistas die then inch closer while dropping ballistas until something comes at you, then run away

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Especially in the Forge map because it's... questionable.

west surge
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so far this is my least favorite league, hope it gets better, though I doubt it

sullen cloud
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Every league I've tried melee was my last favorite league, haha

west surge
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nah ultimatum and sentinel were fucking epic

sullen cloud
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Lightning strike is the closest I've come to enjoying melee

west surge
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pohx RF is pretty comfy

sullen cloud
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I did cyclone on ultimatum, I found it fairly whelming. I learned a lot after that, though

west surge
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Ultimatum is by far my favorite league

sullen cloud
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I was considering RF this league but wanted to kill bosses and it seemed annoying

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I loved the ultimatum mechanic, I just didn't like playing melee. Haha

west surge
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fair, I just wanna do maps comfortably, so I am trying RF

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every league I play something different

sullen cloud
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I'm doing champ EA and debating whether to switch to elementalist EA at some point

west surge
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there's two builds I want to try right now

not sure if to make a second character later or wait for next league (since this one is so awful)

sullen cloud
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Although if I'd known more about the crucible trees I definitely would have tried to figure out a good Omni build

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Because all those +%x/+%y nodes on the crucible trees are just begging for omni

west surge
sullen cloud
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Yeah, I could see that

west surge
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but for more casual or one character per league type of players this league offers nothing

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and the fact that meta is to completely ignore league mechanic while leveling because overtuned+has chance to brick your weapon+u constantly change weapons every few acts is bad

sullen cloud
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Weapon trees are decent. Auto allocate first node needs fixing and they did not balance the nodes very well, but that means there's lots of interesting stuff to put in

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Nah, you should do it while leveling because good trees are nutty when leveling. Basically getting weapons that are like 30ilvl higher than you are

west surge
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so far I haven't found a single good tree
and the fact that the first node can have a build bricking downside is insane to me

its almost as if ur supposed to only use league mechanic on weapons in ur inventory and not your main, until you unlock the tree

sullen cloud
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Just reveal stuff you're not using then equip the good ones. Acts are when you change gear anyways

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You definitely are not supposed to reveal on your current weapon past like level 5

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I've got a +1 bow skills, 7% attack speed, 32% dot multi (-30fr, easy to fix) weapon tree right now. Trying to get it fixed up to add +2 min frenzy/endurance (-2 power, which I don't use) or something else (even another dot multi), which would be even better

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It's a big chunk of power. Just a little awkward, especially if you don't have the resources to perfect a base and then start the rest of your crafting on it.

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You can get +dex/str/int gems, keystones, a bunch of good stuff. The weird part is that most good nodes don't have downsides, they're just really good. (Like +6% to 2 stats.)

west surge
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oh yeah people at endgame who invest into these weapons will have a good time.

But it's funny that one league we have so many new players is the league the most anti-new players

solemn reef
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The game has 10 billion things to do for a new player. I don't think this league mechanic will be make or break for them.

west surge
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not so sure about that. It's one thing they will encounter a lot while leveling.

And new players don't often know you don't have to charge it all the way. So they spawn overtuned AN level mobs that kill them, and then they have to pass the same part of the map to go finish their act.

I can't imagine it being any fun.
Every other league we had encounters, it was either in a different area or it despawned the mobs if you failed.

Ultimatum, if you die mobs explode.
Kalandra is in a different map, if you die you go back to acts.
Sanctum is in a different map, if you die you go back fo acts.

violet nymph
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How's carrion golems elementalist this patch? (or recently)

languid wharf
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can you change the crucible tree on a corrupted item?

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respec the tree on it i mean

gloomy marten
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People are really mad at this league

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For a returning player im having a blast... with every other mechanic i never interacted with

balmy moss
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why can't I find any on trade or poeninja?

vast goblet
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How do you Respec the weapon passives???

abstract pelican
past spire
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ye but how does it work, example i want to keep node lvl 3 bottom but remove nodes 1 and 2 , can i do that?

torn isle
west surge
past spire
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ye i think i will just buy a good tree and replace mine it will be easier 😄

west surge
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perks of trade league, you don't have to interact with the mechanic :)

past spire
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it just sucks if i have to buy/loot 100 differents weapons and buy/loot 100 different geodes

torn isle
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Meanwhile I'm wondering whether to craft on this ilv 68-ish shield with 100% avoid bleed and poison, or try to transfer these mods onto a better shield. :V

compact sorrel
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hello guys

torn isle
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Also booo crucible mob nerfs, though granted it was to be expected.

compact sorrel
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guys

tawdry plover
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I feel avoid bleed poison not super good. Bleed is reactionary and poison barely notice it once u have res

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Unless you do expedition a lot

compact sorrel
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what character u guys reccomend

tawdry plover
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U mind dying?

compact sorrel
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nono

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for nimis spark/KB

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i am trying to build towards that

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so what character should i choose?

tawdry plover
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Kb is deadeye

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Ranger

compact sorrel
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got it

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ty

torn isle
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Yes, but I could instead use armour against chaos hits and negate poisons for dots instead. :V

compact sorrel
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anything better than nimis spark/kb?

tawdry plover
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I am not sure spark is still as good as last league

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Tornado shot

torn isle
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RF always works if you are absolutely clueless, but this isn't really the place to ask anyway.

compact sorrel
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RF meaning?

torn isle
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Righteous fire, refer to pohx guide

compact sorrel
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I like deadeye if u guys didnt tell me i would have made random character lol

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anything better than those two?

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what is the best weapon in game?

abstract pelican
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yes wardlooper

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very good much recommend

compact sorrel
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that is obtainable from bosses

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wardlooper u sure?

abstract pelican
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best build

compact sorrel
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BF or BB?

torn isle
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Fairly sure wardlooper isn't league start friendly, but still. 😛

abstract pelican
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then hollow palm flicker strike yes

compact sorrel
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Ward loop strongest build is op l0l

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rigged

abstract pelican
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anyway, when I combine trees and retains whatever I allocated, does it roll tiers?

compact sorrel
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anything stronger than wardloop?

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wardloop is okay weapon

abstract pelican
compact sorrel
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you need to make sure you make it strongest build

abstract pelican
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nobody cares about your build choice

fleet tiger
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has anybody else gotten a bug where they haven't gotten league rewards?

compact sorrel
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Just one question anything stronger than wardloop?

fleet tiger
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Like I didn't get my gloves from the challenges, but I got the boots

abstract pelican
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I got both

compact sorrel
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ward loop is like the 7th best in game lol

fleet tiger
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literally unplayable

compact sorrel
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@abstract pelican Venom gyre strength stack is better than wardloop

torn isle
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Anyway, anyone mathed out the main differences between 1h and 2h trees, or are nodes completely unique to either?

abstract pelican
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2h have better trees but not sure if unique

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you can hover over to see when it says 2h

past spire
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can i replace a wand crucible tree with a bow crucible tree? or need the same type

abstract pelican
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same type

past spire
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ah rip

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so if i have imbued wand, it only work with imbued wands?

abstract pelican
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same item class I think?

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so any wand, but I haven't tried yet

past spire
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will try now 🙂 ty

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and the x% explicit mana modifier works for all items or only weapon?

raw swallow
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Is there anyway to reroll crucible trees or is it just the recomb thing?

hasty perch
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There is a geode letting you erase a tree

compact sorrel
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guys

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HC SSF CRUCIBLE LEAGUE
or this HC SSF SANCTUM LEAGUE?

torn isle
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Looks like there's not much particularly interesting crucible-wise for RF builds outside of random increased damage or smol multiplier...

hollow nest
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80 dex is good, saves a few suffixes you can then use for chaos res for example

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but nothing too impactful yea

torn isle
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Under poedb, how exactly does the spawn tags work? Notably, can fire dot multiplier appear on minion wands? (Since it's way easier to roll inceased minion damage than increased fire damage on ele weapons which I'm not even sure classifies as a caster weapon ..)

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Wait, checking, there isn't even any increased fire damage on weapons, its only shields. :X

dark sentinel
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can you allocate multiple paths in the crucible weapon tree or only one?

abstract pelican
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only one

soft sand
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I've heard people say that the first crucible passive on an item is determined by the enemy type and that you can just skip the mobs and try again to get a different mob type in the next map.

I have tried this and think it has worked once but never again. anyone know how this works?

dark sentinel
faint violet
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Did the patch “help”?

compact sorrel
honest spire
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so is the crucible mechanic useful at higher levels or is it just bad?

rotund pine
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anyone getting this in pob?

rotund pine
honest spire
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yeah i mean thats cool but while leveling I'm gonna be swapping ger in and out a lot so theres not really a chance to level up any given weapons crucible tree, so its not really worth to even pay attention to crucible until I'm using weapons that im not gonna throw away in 3 hours

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its a neat mechanic and i enjoy it but it seems grossly inefficient to even look at it while leveling

hasty perch
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Its broken as f but boring in higher levels

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Getting a local crit or as node on weapons is busted

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Because it gets multiplied by the crit chance mod

honest spire
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well hopefully i can get to that. cuz broken mechanics that make me obliterate the game are FAR more interesting than a mechanic i ignore because its not worth my time

hasty perch
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Like spine bows get up to 11% critchance

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But you often also have dogsh** on mofs

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Mods*

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Like attribute reqs

gleaming geyser
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I dont think it does tbh. You can upgrade passives if you combine them and thats the tier i think

dark quest
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whats the maximum crucible tree size?

honest spire
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willing to bet not many people know that atm

torn isle
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I assume it's 5 since that's the number of passives the "support only" staff gets.

violet nymph
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how's golems this patch?

lucid monolith
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crucible monsters on full charge - loot confirmed 🙂

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i guess this rare had some mods, there dropped lot of gems(just one was visible) 😄

violet nymph
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What's going on?

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Max exp reached, can't allocate last node. Any ideas?

quaint topaz
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if you upgrade a breach unique with a blessing, does it retain the tree?

sullen cloud
random bay
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is there no lfg channel in this discord?

eager charm
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Seeing that you have the xbox icon, if you play on xbox you may ask in #xbox or in the console server found in the xbox channel

random bay
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@eager charm I play both. I'm on PC right now

halcyon sun
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Yo guys

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quick video

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of 47s

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new mecanics

nocturne mauve
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if you want to combine crucible trees does it only have to be the same type of weapon or also the same base?

halcyon sun
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new one shot mecanics but this time it one shot your game client

nocturne mauve
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like can i fuse a spine bow with a thicket bow

storm smelt
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bruh??

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i combined a bow with 7 passives and a bow with 6 passives

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how did i get that

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this + this = this

radiant ivy
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does ilvl matter for the crucible tree that i can reveal or only the area level that the forge is in

hoary oasis
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Maybe rest of the tree is hidden?

neat summit
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Didn't they just say they patched that

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Nice job ggg

fathom grail
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Gotta love whispering the top 50 people and not a single one responding.

storm smelt
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i just wanted galvanic arrow mines on a solarine bow and i end up with that

sullen cloud
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oh that looks fun

sullen cloud
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you get stuck in a group or something

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notLikeThis merged a +2 endurance/frenzy min charges bow onto my bow...it kept "chance to inflict withered and 50% chance to be withered when you take chaos damage from a hit" between my attack speed and my fire damage multi 😦

fallen terrace
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what crucible mods would be good for a CoC build

onyx knoll
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do the crucible mobs drop loot now?

mellow tiger
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Nope

visual girder
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If I remove a crucible tree using the furnace, can I get another one somehow?

austere wyvern
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read the mods of the map

frank shell
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Am I the only one who has yet to touch crucible since hitting maps?

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It seems the only way you can actually interact with it is if you have a weapon currently in your inventory that you want to progress on. The problem is I had the unique weapon for my build the moment I hit maps. I can't do anything with it at the crucible without a geode, and I have no interest to go out of my way to trade for an item just to enable the league mechanic.

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It feels like I am playing standard. lol

fair aspen
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you'd just get exploded anyway

neat summit
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its also bad while leveling since your always changing your weapon every like 20-30 mins

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so you never have time to actually use it

frank shell
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That too, another reason why I am not sure I would even want to do it. Pay money to make my weapon worse

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Same reason I don't corrupt anything myself. lol

neat summit
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also its kinda sad they locked unique trees to only be from the crucible map ... would have made alot of uniques useable if you could just get trees on them from the start like rares

frank shell
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Yeah, it is strange honestly. In many cases the unique weapons are the budget option until you get a good rare. They act like it is the opposite.

neat summit
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ye

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but honestly thats a core game problem '

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the fact that they value rares more than uniques ... or even that they dont give uniques any way to scale better than they already are ... LE has the whole legendary system ... D4 lets you rip mods off of uniques to put on rares

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poe hates uniques for the most part ... outside of like 1% of them kek

frank shell
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The entire league could be made better if they made it so uniques were treated the same as rares, and allowed the trees to be rerolled in some way.

neat summit
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well the way you reroll is by smashing soo many trees into your tree that you eventually lose all your mods kek

frank shell
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True, I guess you could buy multiple weapons for your build and swap between what is best constantly while smashing their trees together.

neat summit
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but ye

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there should totally be a way to just scour/reset the entire tree and reroll it

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like from the start

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the best outcomes always come from merging so its not like it does anything for the top end

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just the average playewr

frank shell
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Yeah, just the rerolled trees could have a max of how many good passives they have so you are still incentivized to smash.

neat summit
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it already does

frank shell
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Ah

neat summit
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most of the really good passives only come from the passives that pop up when you merge multiple trees

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if your just picking up items and rolling the tree on them they will never get those

frank shell
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Well then, yeah. Just make it so you can reveal unique trees as easily as rares and allow tree rerolls. That would take care of a lot of the problems. Then all that is left is fixing the bugs and mob balance.

forest sequoia
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anyone know if crucible trees depend on ilvl of item or the lvl of the zone where you unlock the tree?

neat summit
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cuz

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you have to get the exact same item

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to smash them together

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on top of needing to go to the crucible maps to even put a tree on them in the first place

livid birch
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if you remove a tree from a unique item do you need to do another geode map to unlock it again or not

livid birch
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and the zone lvl determines the xp they get

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so you cant lvl everything up in act 1

neat summit
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you want i 85 bases to have all the mods
but then you want to run lower teir maps at the specific item level that those mods apear ... and it will block out the other higher teir mods while giving you all the i85 benefits

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at least thats what ive been told

hearty saddle
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Has anyone noticed Karst passive not working? He's not lowering the alert level raised whatsoever.

livid birch
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can you merge trees of different max depths

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what happens

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also do you get penalised in any way for using low level items for merging

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like maybe the node strength is lower

neat summit
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always prioritizes the lower item level item

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its the same for vendor stuff

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like the 3-5/1 recipes

livid birch
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i mean yeah but those dont always matter

woeful vortex
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Does this reroll my entire item tree?

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I assume the item will be brand new and I will have a change for a better tree? Or how does this work.

fair aspen
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do the geode furnaces work like the altars, or just a crafting thing to go interact with?

remote wyvern
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any1 tried abyss with the new atlas?

silver trench
tawny smelt
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oh man i bricked myself with that +26 attribute

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like all my things i wear get turned red 💀

lucid monolith
woeful vortex
lucid monolith
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Yes, I'm sure. Respec can be done with scouring.

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Maybe his one bugged.

woeful vortex
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Ok thanks. Will keep it mind

prisma charm
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Maybe they just got super (un)lucky and got the exact same tree

wheat gulch
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Wait so it's not possible to merge unique trees in crucible?

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So you're locked out of the good nodes because you're using unique items?

mild ingot
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screw the average player

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poe is a hardcore game

wheat gulch
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So you can merge unique tree's?

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Im confused

neat summit
mild ingot
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it harms the V I S I O N (tm)

neat summit
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true

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fair

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but the vision™️ is a little bit hazy as of late

mild ingot
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no its always been clear to nerf the average player as much as possible and move as much power as possible to the top end

neat summit
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then the vision is blind xD

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sorry for your loss oh wise ggg

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xD

tardy bridge
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Someone help me out.
In Path of Building, on the boots it says this:

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Do i need to put all the listen gems in ?

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OHHHHH

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Not fully linked

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?

marsh oracle
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can you still get multiple blight? it hasnt happened to me

mental swallow
neat summit
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its only been getting better every half a year xD

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soon we will have trade and ssf support

random juniper
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How is abyss this league?

last pecan
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Trash

violet nymph
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Is the league worth playing yet

prisma charm
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It was at the start, so, yes

wicked venture
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damn, almost worked

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maybe bard can do it

remote wyvern
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Time to die 6 times and lose a divine wish me luck

inland summit
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Abyss is fun tho

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And has one of the most sought after jewels.

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Plus you can get a cracked darkness enthroned now

dim walrus
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is there any way to see somewhere the extra dmg I gain from Intensity stacks?

inland summit
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Ingame? I’d hover over the skill while casting a couple of time. But tooltips are very unreliable

dim walrus
grim basalt
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So the Primeval Remnant allows you to remove non unique crucible trees but not unique ones?

high cliff
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can i remove the first point?

high fractal
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do you guys think it's worth to get a +2 maxres fractured shield base right now or nah?

arctic cargo
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what do yall recommend for currency this league? i always get stuck and can never consistently make currency

high fractal
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essence is solid if you can kill them

high cliff
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i like abyss, u can force them on ur map just for 2c

arctic cargo
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well im going toxic rain idk if that is good for essence

high cliff
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make ur atlas full abyss, and force, gg ez money

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toxic rain is great for essence

high cliff
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i never tried to make money with essences tho

silver ridge
high fractal
high cliff
silver ridge
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Ah damn

high cliff
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maybe u need like 10 scouring

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i only tried with 1 in the bag

silver ridge
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There is a special forge that remove a tree

high cliff
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i want to do the tree on my main weapon, but dont want to break it

silver ridge
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Or fuse something else into it could work I guess

high cliff
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oh u can

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u just need to be in the crucible thing

silver ridge
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Ye, how exactly? It may come handy

high cliff
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lemme go in a map

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and ill explain

high cliff
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ok

high cliff
high fractal
high cliff
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u see its removed now

high cliff
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(im flicker)

coral raven
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anyone have a really strong spark build link? had a guy kill maven and hes was running spark id love to get a good build and swap to it

neat summit
neat summit
grim basalt
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brooo

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crucible is lit now that you understand how to build trees

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a game changer

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this makes doing every crucible useful

mellow tiger
marsh oracle
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I feel like grimro is like the only person in the world who understands poe leagues lol

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how does he do it

spark wharf
#

Does item level, two-hand or single hand ,influence ? anything affect the chances of getting a vendor node on the crucible trees? I assumed higher item level but I don't know if it has a difference?

obsidian pelican
#

each weapon type seems to have a different tree

mild bramble
#

Does the map level of the Crucible have an impact on what tree an item will get? Or is it solely based on the item's level? To clarify, I'm asking about the initial reveal of the tree.

dapper stump
weary salmon
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anyone can help me clear t16 poorjoys? you can keep the loot i just need completion

marsh oracle
#

how the hell does combine tree work

do u need it specced? if you dont have it specced can you only reroll the first node?

i have no idea how any of this works!!

smoky geyser
#

i feel bad for this guy

maiden mesa
#

is that bad?

proud skiff
# grim basalt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msm0Zmod46Q

watched that, and now i’m convinced someone at ggg wanted to make a krangled crafting league and that’s how crucible was born (i’m actually enjoying the league but man does tree merging need some improvement if that’s how it’s intended to be approached)

nocturne mortar
#

hey guys , is there a item level requirement for weapons/shields to get the mod that sells for a unique ? i saw on poe db that mod is on t3-t4 of the tree , intending to farm some low lvl uniques in ssf r hc cruc

fiery summit
#

question regarding the forge: did both items to be the exact same item (like kauri chopper) or is it enough if they are the same item class (like 2-hand maces)?

harsh knot
round oyster
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Why are people listing these for 40divs? It's already been split once, so it can't be fractured again. Shouldn't it just be worth ~6divs?

harsh knot
lucid monolith
harsh knot
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so i guess the split beast price is going up this league?

round oyster
#

ya probably

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oh dang, I think I get it

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it's rng, but still probably good odds

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you can merge this tree onto another weapon, that new weapon won't be split

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then you fracture it, and get 2 copies, repeat

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keep going until you get unlucky on the passive merge

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that's not busted at all....

wind canopy
#

What's the meta of leveling these days? I've been doing SSF for a long time.

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Is it breach stones rotations?

high fractal
#

used to be

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thankfully its gone for good

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no more 2k hp builds on the ladder

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well hold up it actually isnt that bad

faint ravine
#

5way carries if you actually just want to AFK level probably

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Break even by leveling 34 gems during it

gray relic
#

hey guys, still couldnt start the league that i was busy... what are your impressions of it?

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are you enjoying it?

past spire
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its standart league with extra nerfs but there is enough base content to keep me busy

question :
how can i keep the first node on my crucible weapon but change every other nodes? ty

hoary oasis
#

They said nodes that were picked have higher chance to appear again after melting so in theory best you can do is pick ones you care about and melt two weapons together

thorny fiber
#

are all Crucible Perks local?
5 % reduced max life value on a shield that gives +100 max life, would that mean it gives +95 max life after that? lol
that would sound way too simple and not much less max life

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would like to counter that -10 chaos res

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but not if thats a flat 5 % less life

torn isle
#

Max life mod isn't local. Local only refers to actual base weapon stats.

thorny fiber
#

oooh rip D: thx

torn isle
#

5% reduced isn't that much anyway, additive with other increased/reduced modifiers.

thorny fiber
#

god, so much math in PoE, thats what my teacher meant by "you will need it later in life"

dim walrus
#

all in all my experience till now leveling weapons was terrible there was a few times I found a weapon that had 1 maybe 2 good passives but that's very rare, most of the time all I get is bad passives & that ruin weapons...

stuck sapphire
#

welcome to the ggg vision

torn isle
#

Though admittedly it also depends on what build you are. Ironically convoking weapons are prob best for RF build to crucible for instance.

dim walrus
#

oh ye another prob with spellcaster builds is getting passives suited for physical dmg...

torn isle
#

Minion and bow prob has it easiest.

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Though shields also are nice to roll for.

thorny fiber
#

Welcome to the Bad Gateway League

dim walrus
#

I mean the whole idea this new mechanic of leveling weapons & unlocking passives on your weapons is really nice I like it, but when all you get from leveling weapons is terrible passives that either doesn't offer any benefit to your build or even worse harm/ruin your build then you can't but be disappointed by this new league...

past spire
#

you can delete a crucible tree then add another one on your weapon, there are 2 differents forges

dim walrus
#

aha, well haven't seen that yet but from my experience till now it's like the chance to roll a good passive is less than 5% & the chance to roll a bad/useless/harmful passive 95%+ that's my impression till now

past spire
#

ye i had the same too, but after trying a few reroll/recraft tree it gets better but its an annoying experience still

lucid monolith
#

How does combine work? Can i buy perfect tree for my item then merge it with my bad tree and pray it to take all nodes from first weapon?

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Does it only merge leveled tree? Not all points that are available on tree?

gilded thistle
#

What changed with abyss in crucible? Fully atlas specced into abyss, not a single abyssal depths/spire the entire league, over 100 maps so far multiple abysses per map

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Seems statistically improbable at this point given how frequent they've been last few leagues

rocky sage
#

allegedly breach nodes are bugged

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decent odds abyss is too

left cape
#

Is it safe to assume the economy is beyond saving

lean lark
robust halo
#

where fix for divine printing machine

lucid monolith
lean geode
#

how can anyone play this league for 4+ months

rocky sage
#

I don't play any league for 4

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even ones I loved like ultimatum or sentinel

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but this league is omega small boring content wise

red wharf
#

does being in party (with quant bonus) help with splinters and woke gems in invitations?

polar stag
#

This league sucks for me so far because it just aligned with my work schedule being super gorked and I'm on my 6th 12 hour day in a row and I've only played like 8 hours in the past week but I'm so itching for Poe I just can't play it so I'm listening to streams and videos it suckssss

grand imp
#

I did so many maps and have only found 8c. im sad

lucid monolith
grand imp
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pick harvest? from what?

lucid monolith
#

Atlas tree

grand imp
#

ok ty

neat rover
#

guys, does base/ilvl matter for crucible nodes that you can potentionally get? or it can be worst ilvl and shit base still get good nodes aka this item sells for divines etc?

carmine flare
#

is it possible to buy the trigger enchant for my wand? idk how to get it and i just wanna do maps but i keep dying lol

violet nymph
#

holy fuck lol

#

2 open prefix as well

night kelp
#

why do i get expedition almost every single map, despite allocating trade embargo (blocking expedition essentially) ? didn't use expedition scarabs

hoary oasis
#

Tell me how you do it, I want that 😉

sturdy wasp
#

If I want go poison bv, pathfinder or occu? pathfinder w/ asenaths and maybe obli?

fallen terrace
#

the other day i got delirium 5 times in a row despite not having any bonus spawn rate

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i assure you it's random VentorsGamble

high fractal
mental citrus
#

bad gateway 505 i presume this is a known error

night portal
#

would it be possible to get some help with a t14 maven? I keep getting rolled by the bosses....

fossil stump
#

As always, i've lost my first character to the new league mechanic (one shoted by a rare without any offensive mods). When will i learn the lesson ? When new league mechanics will be already well balanced at start, without needing to be nerfed a week after ?
So many questions, so few time to live.

sonic stirrup
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You choose how much you want to channel it

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If everyone always can just channel it fully, then there is no point in having the option to channel

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Ergo, max charge should kill you

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It seems like it succeeded in that

fossil stump
#

I was half charge, and my character was pretty tanky 😦

sonic stirrup
#

Then charge it less

fossil stump
#

As a HC player, i won't risk myself again in Crucible mechanic if there is no nerf in offense of the mobs 🙂

sonic stirrup
#

Just charge it a tiny bit

halcyon halo
sonic stirrup
#

It's literally a mechanic where you get to choose to make encounters baby difficulty

halcyon halo
fossil stump
sonic stirrup
#

Fair enough

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You're welcome

topaz pine
#

since there are less currency drops this league, how do you guys foresee the max price of nurse cards in the upcoming weeks?

twilit quest
prisma charm
pulsar depot
high fractal
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amazing

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someone must be playing sabo trigger build and laggs the server farm

livid birch
#

are 2handed weapons more likely to get vendor nodes and or do they sell for more than 1h

acoustic pike
#

Huh, checked the top of the ladder for necros

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None are using 6link covenants, surprised

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I just 6linked mine, but I'm only like rank 125ish for Necro

acoustic pike
#

I am in HC, and I do them every time I find a new weapon that is potentially decent.

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Level 86 now, been doing crucibles every zone almost since act 1.

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I'm not SSF though, so my gear likely puts most SSF's to shame.

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Bought a covenant for 7 divine and then 6linked it

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Also bought oils for a jinxed juju, so am running 3 spectres.

fossil stump
acoustic pike
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Full charging killed my first character

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But not full charging they seem fine

violet nymph
# halcyon halo Rog?

random drop from Jun with a veiled mod, which got me onslaught but I didn't even see the stats of the boots I was about to vendor them and noticed

acoustic pike
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I spec into it, hard

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It's so much currency generation

hoary oasis
#

Map juicing with Exarch wouldn't benefit from Expedition, it takes time to set charges and detonate them.

zinc smelt
acoustic pike
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It's more early I do it, before end game bosses.

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Though also on HC, I don't mess with those till I am VERY geared up.

tender pollen
#

Does anyone know if the 100% phys to fire conversion on artillery ballista converts the physical damage of the on-death explosion from a crucible tree?

lilac silo
#

where can i see spoilers inwhat tree the weapons are gonna have

#

?

grave tartan
#

I shoehorned Berserk into a spellcaster build, one that happens to be using shield charge lol

gusty terrace
#

my god i love this weapon

So fun for srs

grave tartan
#

yoo how does one get a tree for their unique wep/shield

gusty terrace
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From those orbs, they drop from the encounter

You can check your fav weapon/shield on the trade website and check Crucible YES and pick one

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Thats how i found this one, with 12% poison chance, minion dmg and attackspeed, its insane for me

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and for 25c!

violet nymph
#

@acoustic pike you're playing srs?

dapper flume
#

"socketed gems are supported by lv10 fork" - is this ever a downside for a bow? t4 crucible tree passive

high fractal
#

pray for my soul boys

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it was twinned, I made like 100c from it D:

acoustic pike
violet nymph
stiff lantern
#

kind of an stupid question but will ask anyway i'm running pohx RF jugg build, so it cant run elemental reflect maps right

gleaming spindle
#

So are essences worthless this league? I specced my atlas tree into them and now I see that that most of them sell in stacks of 200 for 1 div.

prisma charm
#

I mean, that depends on your definition of worthless

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People always need crafting materials, so there’s always going to be some demand for essences

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Can’t exactly expect prices to be the same league to league

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I don’t do essences because it seems like a rather poor roi to me

gleaming spindle
prisma charm
#

Per essence cluster your getting 3-5 items worth a fraction of a chaos each

fast oxide
gleaming spindle
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So I guess I am screwed, need to buy a bunch of unmakings from Kirac now and the lesson is check trade before you settle for a farming strat.

prisma charm
#

Meanwhile I clear an expedition and it drops a few raw chaos, and sometimes a logbook worth anywhere from 5-80c, usually 20-30

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or do a lab trial and one out of every 4 get a 30c lab key, etc

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Essences don’t seem worth it to me on non ssf

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Dunno what happened with them last league

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Maybe just more people did essence farming this league?

hoary oasis
prisma charm
#

This is my first league focusing on expedition, and it’s like… why did I ignore this until now

gleaming spindle
gleaming spindle
prisma charm
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It was a few days ago, I think it’s dropped to 25?

#

The tribute

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Not the base key

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Using the atlas node to get upgraded offerings

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Actually…

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PoE ninja said they’re 90c now

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Lol

#

Gift to the goddess

gleaming spindle
prisma charm
#

That’s the thing though

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Don’t rely on one source of income

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Diversify and it won’t matter if one of them tanks

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Pick 2

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I went shrines, lab, expedition, and searing

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Shrines just because they’re fun

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The delve nodes are another option similar to shrines in terms of its affect on mapping, but has potential to be very profitable if you delve

gleaming spindle
# prisma charm I went shrines, lab, expedition, and searing

Well, I am not on red maps yet so I cant do exarch and I would like to farm up a bit before I go there. Expedition requires scarabs to be worth it from what I understand and the lab, well I guess that one is cool, but it wont do by itself.

prisma charm
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I’m only doin 12’s, so I’m not doin searing either

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Or using scarabs

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Or using the logbooks

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Just sell everything

gleaming spindle
#

So you are specced into expedition, lab and shrines than?

prisma charm
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Yes, and I’m currently filling out searing but not benefiting from it

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Will get into t16’s when I replace my weapons in a few days

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But once I get to t16’s I’ll be selling all my searing boss keys as well, just easy profit, let the bossers do bosses

plain oracle
#

can anyone help assess price of an item

prisma charm
#

Sold a conq map last night for an easy 30c, no idea why people buy it but they do

acoustic pike
#

I only recently annointed my amulet to get the carnage chieftain though.

#

Only level 86 on Cruc HC, but almost geared enough to tackle pinnacles.

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Have 6link covenant, still need a severed in sleep.

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Definitely don't feel like essences are worthless

#

Getting 5-10 essences in average per map.

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Divines are only like 85c on HC, so I can make a divine and a half per hour of consistent income off essences alone.

manic idol
#

Does anyone know what nodes you need to combine to get the rampage crucible node on your weapon?

lucid monolith
#

nice.

it also has SST passive to convert damage to lightning 30-50 per 15es

coral oak
#

pls fix the trade site already im getting 502 bad gateway for like 3 days straight

high fractal
#

could be worse

#

I cant play the game because I get like 6 sec long lagg spikes

rough reef
#

Is this Intended ?

sullen cloud
#

Turn split beasts into divines over and over again? Not likely. There's a chance to fail getting the node to transfer so there's a small chance GGG won't immediately disable this

rough reef
sullen cloud
#

I doubt you'd get banned. Possible.

acoustic jackal
#

it's intended

marsh oracle
#

has anyone seen a map with two blights?

#

I think they secretly broke it

acoustic pike
manic idol
bronze coral
#

can someone explain this to me li5?

sullen cloud
#

Any modifier on your item that has the tags "Caster" and "Damage" will have its value multiplied by 1.10

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So for example, "adds 100-200 damage to spells" will become 110-220

acoustic jackal
#

or both

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I've been livesearching the dex one since leaguestart and only seen 1 so far

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granted the livesearch also broke about 100 times so I could've missed some

sullen cloud
#

I'm hoping somebody does a really good wiki page on combining because right now I get the gist but I'm hesitant about going too nuts

#

Trade site is brutal this league. Feels like it's always down.

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Even when it's up, it's doing a lot of janky stuff in the background like saying you whispered somebody with the direct whisper option but not doing it

lament wraith
#

Is cold flicker strike viable as a league start, looks fun?

marsh oracle
#

I'm checking every single 3.21 hotfix

#

but can't find any changes on blight

#

but I can't spawn the second one

#

can't tell if I'm being gaslighted or if I'm super unlucky

#
#

no wonder oils are so expensive

jovial perch
#

someone using toxic rain?

sullen cloud
#

And as they said, a lot of maps really did scuff the second Blight.

turbid sage
#

Triggerbots can allow you to cast two spells at the same time with CWDT (such as two separate curses in one trigger).

#

(instead of the same spell casted twice)

tribal hawk
#

20% global damage and Master fletcher on my first rare bow

#

at level 15. Now do I keep that shit till maps or is ele damage on bows still better

hasty perch
#

i hope they do something about crucible xp

#

trying to get xp to unlock the T5 for rolling magma

#

I'm on T3 rn and it takes me 15 fully charged crucibles

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to get to T4

#

who the f wants to do 50+ crucibles at max charge to unlock a build enabling node

#

and cant even speedrun it on low maps

#

you need reds to have any xp

#

on high ilvl

#

like 1 charge for T1 2 more for T2 3 more for R3 etc would be fine but the exp we get is silly in T4/5

tired cape
dapper stump
#

tepenetro 😄

#

as a Spanish speaker, that means...

#

||I penetrate you||

rare valve
#

guys can someone send me a screenshot of the pohx crucible rf jugg skill tree from the pob?Am on ps4 so yeah

sonic stirrup
sullen vine
#

any news on changes for this league?

neat summit
surreal basalt
#

Hey everyone what is a good class to start on crucible?

woeful dome
#

finished my tree 😄

hushed rapids
#

i finished mine too

#

I feel like this is probably worth a fair bit but idk

neat rover
#

thats nice

#

next node

#

rest shit, +500 armor and items sell for magma orb

rotund pine
#

does forging a fully leveled crucible tree onto a not leveled weapon give the forged tree full exp after forge?

#

oh it doesnt

verbal crest
#

as is tradition when I pull one card from a stacked deck, I have to finish the set and roll the dice

#

also as tradition, disappointment

violet nymph
#

has anyone seen this mod on a weapon?

nova galleon
#

Is the most recent patch already live ? My dumb ass can"t see a date of release

elfin cliff
#

Looks like it. Says being released later today. Cant really go much later for today. 🤷‍♂️

torn isle
#

How is something explicitly mentioned last league a shadow nerf..?

jagged zephyr
#

Any tips on how to get loot? This is my worst league ever for it. I get lucky to see a chaos, zilch in ways of actual useful currency/items.

sonic stirrup
#

Full set of unidentified rares sells for 2c

#

It's a good way to get started

#

If you're past that, just play the game, invest your passives

#

Don't invest in farming strategies if it isn't paying off

serene gazelle
#

anyone got a sick vaal ice POB i could refer to?

crystal plover
#

has the patch come out yet? is it safe to run crucible on your main wep lol

sonic stirrup
#

You can just scour the node

#

All you gotta do is go to a new crucible encounter

#

Open tree

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Scour the node

crystal plover
#

oooooh thanks didn't know that

#

honestly this league isn't my fav haha

crystal plover
sweet shell
#

is effect of buffs from golems worth keeping for carrion golem ?

#

im doing a zoomancer with 4 link SRS

crystal plover
sweet shell
#

first divine from acts and 2nd divine from trials lul

nova galleon
sweet shell
#

that i dunno maybe ask for help

nova galleon
#

Didn't mean to respond to your comment hh

sweet shell
#

easiest way is to just look for it in trade

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and see if it exists kek

nova galleon
#

Wanted to say i got 6 divines from the league mech just by checking trees on trash weapons

sweet shell
#

really ? damn

#

just opening the first node and see if theres any luck i guess

nova galleon
#

Yes so all of the people saying to not engage with it until map are a kinda wrong haha

sweet shell
#

but id be stuck doing white maps if i wanted to be fast at that

#

im on my own butchered minion build so red maps i gotta be careful

nova galleon
#

I did that for 2h straight tbh, it worked but it also works if you just do it while doing your normal mapping, just takes 2 maps to unveil the tree

gray jolt
#

Im on... act 8 with

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Act 9* with 20 divs.-.

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And abt 30 chaos

#

Via drop....

nova galleon
#

Yes sure, and i got 3 mirror by killing Brutus

gray jolt
#

.-. No like actually

nova galleon
#

Source : trust me bro

gray jolt
#

My jewels r a div each to 2

#

My shield is abt 2divs

sweet shell
#

that is too much RNG to believe

gray jolt
#

.-.

#

I can snap a pic

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When im home

nova galleon
#

If you show the divines it just means you RMT'd

#

Like 99.9% chance of rmt

gray jolt
#

Imagine rmt?

#

Rather grind thnks

nova galleon
#

Yes sure you got 20 divines and only 30 chaos by just farming

#

lol

neat summit
#

It's possible

#

It's been like half a week

gray jolt
#

.-.

#

Have u not seen others farming crazily .-. And not sleep for 48 hrs

#

Or some shit

neat summit
#

I've been one of those before kek

nova galleon
#

Ha yes farming blood aqueduc for 48h straight huh

sweet shell
#

its not impossible but 0.0001 of players luck

gray jolt
sweet shell
#

its alright anyway its not even one week in the league

gray jolt
#

Shld be glad it wasnt a freakin mirror

#

Or smt

gray jolt
#

Koed on the bed

sullen vine
#

What exactly scales boneshatter? Is it just the weapon dmg and physical # to attacks?

silver cave
#

can minion shield bases roll minion trees?

opal charm
#

And skill duration

gray jolt
rain forge
#

they roll only normal shield shit

#

but honestly shields are quite OK to crucible as a crucible hater myself

#

they give extra block, life/ES on block, decent stuff

#

nothing life-altering though

#

i have yet to see any life-altering crucible that everyone hyped up this league would shit out

zenith smelt
#

Can you stop on how much xp or how hard the fight is at the forge? I thought it was hold, release at a point and then the monsters spawn, but always makes me go and hold to a max point ( least using controller.

honest ledge
#

hello do we have an ETA on the patch

#

anything more precise than "later today" 💀

#

(considering its already 9pm in NZ, does "later today" mean in 12 hrs when they wake up..?)

fervent eagle
#

It's out already

honest ledge
#

oh dang

#

awesome

#

thanks!!

fervent eagle
#

yw 🌞

torn isle
timid willow
#

Does anyone knows how to get tier 2 primeval remnant? Is it a random drop or there is something specific in obtaining one? The first tier let's you combine trees of non-unique and the second tier let's you combine trees of items that are unique, corrupted.

maiden mesa
#

for fuck sake, i always doze off when doing acts bec of how slow and shit my dmg

prisma epoch
#

this fucking game is getting so un-fun, have been playing this for 10 years now, and NO, ONE HIT KO IS NOT FUN

#

cant fucking wait for D4 so i can remove this game for good

hoary oasis
#

Who's one-shotting you?

#

And what build you're using?

stuck viper
#

If it's the Forge mobs, dont charge the bar too much

gritty heath
#

Is there a method of farming vendor nodes? I went through 50 bases and never got one

toxic olive
#

You dont need a reason to uninstall game, noone is forcing you to play it.

mental swallow
heavy minnow
#
gritty heath
#

Imagine thinking D4 will be fun for more than a week

winged hatch
#

is there any website that has a collection of all cruicible nodes yet?

bitter surge
#

I'm Hiero with 4/4 min Charges. I equip a staff with crucible +2/+2/-2 minimjum CHarges. My End and Power Charges don't change. Should'nt I have 6/6 now?

#

Or do I need to raise my maximum Charges, too?

sonic stirrup
clear egret
#

server crash?

muted cipher
#

yup

silver parrot
#

guys what dps and ehp you d need to clear endgame on a character

#

?

snow lintel
#

Seems like the servers are out...

pale tree
#

not just me

#

rip

maiden mesa
#

wtf i got log out and it just dropped an ex

clear egret
#

servers up again

lethal lion
#

They patched us out

waxen eagle
prisma vault
#

worked yesterday for me

waxen eagle
#

doesn't work anymore it seems, fml

prisma vault
#

you know its a remove a cruicble passive skill tree furnace you have there right?

#

and not add to a unique

waxen eagle
#

yeah, i wanna remove it from my weapon because it's shit, so I can try for a new one

#

I've tried several rare weapons, I can't drag any of them in

#

no gems socketed either

prisma vault
#

can you ctrl + left click them?

waxen eagle
#

yeah, that works

#

holy shit, that's stupid

severe bluff
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how do i progress in mines?

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dont have any sulphite now to carry on travelling to finish my quest

sonic stirrup
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Just keep on playing

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You'll find more sulphite later on

pale tree
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anyone wanna join me in eternal lab? my key

grand imp
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bad loot fatigue is real

torn isle
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think GGG missed a first-tier mod to remove, my shield has 20% reduced damage on first tier. :V

covert dragon
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Anyone else having lag spikes in all zones, I have to make a couple new instances each time I enter a new zone for it to be stable. Going to be rough for mapping lol.

sonic stirrup
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No lag

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Well, actually yesterday I very occasionally got long lag spikes

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Which got me killed like once

spice badger
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Did someone say there was supposed to be a sale happening tomorrow on stash tabs? I can't find anything about it online

sullen cloud
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well, I just learned something hilarious

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If you channel the forge but cancel before it actually spawns any monsters, it doesn't give you any XP (duh) but it does use up the forge (hmm)

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This might not make sense as something you'd want to do, but the idea was to quickly get the nodes reallocated on a weapon I'd just done the merge on (merge keeps your XP but unallocates all nodes)

blazing karma
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Did the patch drop yesterday like they said ? Can't tell if it did

sullen cloud
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definitely did

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it shows percentages when you channel now

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and it actually puts a little label on too - over 90% is lethal, over 80% is "brutal" etc

merry flint
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Hey quick question since i'm not sure, will my raise spider be supported by chance to poison 🤔 ?

fallen terrace
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so vendor recipes keep the crucible tree right?

vagrant hornet
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I thought they removed the downside of the 1st passive of a crucible tree?

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Oh says moat

radiant ivy
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are nodes mre likely to stay when merging tree when they are unlocked on a weapon? (lie if they have been selected / earned)

terse aspen
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is there a tool so we can copy paste the weapon tree to showcase it ?

hoary oasis
blazing karma
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Ok something is not right here, I have had Gwennen show up 5 out of the last 10 times with this:

grand imp
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i dislike that detonator mission

fallen terrace
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how hard are primeval remnants

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the mods look fuckin nasty

sullen cloud
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depends on your build but mostly not terrible if you're in red maps

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The trick is that you just move forward a little at a time, spawn a very small number of minions, then move back

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If you run Flicker Strike or something, might end up spawning huge packs of nasty mobs. Otherwise, it's mostly just dealing with the uniques because everything else blows up instantly now. I did one this morning with -15% max resists and didn't even come close to dying.

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I think they've also been nerfed because pre-patch I swear there were 5+ uniques per map and this time I only fought 2 uniques/bosses

high fractal
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any1 else crashes the moment they load into a town?

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-.- nice patch, great

high fractal
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nvm OneDrive corrupted my config file

twin vector
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where do i find people to host unique maps together?

silk palm
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skills granted by a weapon count as socketed skills

fair aspen
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Oh. The altar tells you how hard your charge will be now?

wispy nimbus
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Yep

fair aspen
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Thats helpful lol

wispy nimbus
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Charges can also crit tho

pseudo oxide
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anyone able to help out with a t16 ulaman?

static tulip
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for an early endgame Toxic rain bow, is this work trying to 6L and crafting Chaos DOT multiplier onto?

cursive topaz
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Is there any currency too get by going for rouge exiles in the Atlas?

zenith smelt
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Can you choose the difficulty of the crucible forge? Or do you always have to fight the hardest / longest hold?

zenith smelt
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Thank you. Must be a pc controller bug. I can stop charging but it doesn’t allow me to start a fight at lower difficulty, I have to hit X and keep charging to max.

sonic stirrup
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hmm

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they didn't, where was it mentioned hmm

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but yeah for example I can stop it here at roughly 50% if I want, and now in the latest patch they added the text as well to make it clear how much you've charged @zenith smelt

zenith smelt
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Thanks. Love the controller, but doesn’t let you use both or switch from controller to K&M easy or at all

sonic stirrup
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welp

winged hatch
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what's the point of this node?

neat summit
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if it has less then it will hit more times as it passes through stuff ... if it has more then it will swing around and get back faster

winged hatch
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won't it just average out to a 0% dps increase?

neat summit
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no

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its net increase no matter what

neat summit
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its just like gonna be fluctuating between like 5% gain and 15% gain

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but its still a win

sullen cloud
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yay, now I just have to fix my crucible!

neat summit
winged hatch
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aight, i don't get the math but thanks for trying hah

neat summit
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just saying that no matter how the thing rolls it will be hitting enemies more

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cuz if it goes slower it will take longer to pass through big enemies
while if it goes faster it will swing around faster to hit the enemy again

violet nymph
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I spent over 200c trying to craft 😢

sullen cloud
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I spent ~100c and settled on +2 bow +1 socketed gems on my first try

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spent another divine but only used like half the essences I bought this time

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spent two annuls trying to fix my first T2 roll (but hitting bow gems) then I got lucky and had open prefix/suffix on this one so it was just 1div for the "cannot roll attack", an exalt slam and a bench craft

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technically I still need to go back and get T1 minion attack/cast in

prisma charm
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When merging passive trees, if we want to keep the first half of the tree on our target item, do we just leave the source item unspecced?

sullen cloud
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allocate tree items you want to keep

prisma charm
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I’d hate to lose runebinder or divine shield, but all the perks after those two are trash, etc

sullen cloud
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Allocate runebinder + divine shield (best chance to keep/upgrade them) but don't touch the trash perks

prisma charm
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So it’d just be a 50/50 on if I get the perks from the item in destroying, better’n nothin

neat summit
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probably less than 50/50

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but ye

sullen cloud
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if you have to path through trash perks to get to good perks...then you replace your "added cold damage" with global dmage, but at least you get min frenzy

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haha

prisma charm
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In terms of the ones after the first 2

neat summit
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at least its slightly better kek

prisma charm
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Fun

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Though since setting up these two wands I’ve yet to see another wand with a decent tree

neat summit
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got litterally nothing good

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well

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outside of that 1 wand in ruthless with +2 to socketed spells

iron fern
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is their any list of tree modifiers for wands ?

jade shard
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if the first passive bricks my build on a weapon what can i do?

iron fern
jade shard
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swap it?

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okay

iron fern
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use a forge and prey for it to change the first skill

jade shard
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ill give it a go, thanks!

prisma charm
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Ideally you’d just find an existing item with the tree you want in that item class to copy over to it

jade shard
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oh thats a good idea, didnt even know that was an option. cool

urban olive
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How much time do i use the crucible forge if im just starting right now?
or should i save them up?

marsh oracle
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Why is Reddit calling item splitting an exploit lmao

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It’s amazing that ggg themselves has to come out and tell them it’s an item in the game and to get good 😂

prisma charm
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Just filter to the primary things you want then find one with the ideal tree you want

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I see some pretty decent ones for me for less than 20c

urban olive
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How much time do i use the crucible forge if im just starting right now?
or should i save them up?

prisma charm
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I wouldn’t use it much while leveling

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Definitely once you get to maps or are farming BA to prep for maps

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I used it in act two for both of my wands, and got +80 str and +80 dex, made me not need to think about stats while leveling

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Replaced them before I reached BA

marsh oracle
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my interaction with cruicible is getting a tree on my weapon and having itbrick it and then learning about the scour to not use the tree, then ignore the mechanic

blazing karma
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Sigh: Litteral the worst time to crash, just finished lab, opening the treasure boxes and a divine pops out and then game crashes :/

prisma charm
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Sounds like the time I lost a mirror

blazing karma
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Not to mention i have to run the lab again

muted kelp
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How can you re roll a weapon tree?

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Is it even possible?

prisma charm
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It is possible, but it’s… probably not with the effort

blazing karma
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OMG AGAIN

prisma charm
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You have to get a remnant that has the affix “remove crucible tree from forged item”

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Then run it, and it removes the tree… then you can add a new tree

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It’s easier to just combine a better tree on top of yours

elfin mountain
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Can you remove the first skill on a item?

blazing karma
elfin mountain
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Yeah

blazing karma
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Go to another Forge, and select that weapon, and when its showing the tree, use a Scour on it

elfin mountain
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Oh thanks

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Got +flat fire dmg on my Quillrain and I want to remove that lmao

drifting oyster
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It seems like the last guy i need to kill is stuck there :/ rip

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Cant damage it at all

violet nymph
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I love this game... lol I a just about to start the crucible league. 😄

lament wraith
ripe sun
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any quick guide to forge tree combining? i went with what i assumed might work but 3 times now its just spat out a pile of unallocated nodes

ripe sun
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well i mean i put in two swords with allocated nodes i want, people saying it gives bias towards them, but i havent really seen any bias lol

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it took 7 allocated nodes and gave me 1 and a bunch of random other ones from both swords

dapper wedge
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Anyone know if the 'defeat metamorphs with at least 5 monster modifiers' aspect of Monstrous Metamorphs challenge is talking about map mods or the mods on the organs themselves?

devout osprey
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my uneducated guess is organs with 5 mods

terse girder
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Does anyone know where I can find the ilvl requirements for crucible passives?

languid temple
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you should also consider herald of ice and wrath/anger to get more damage as well

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i went through story pretty smoothly by focusing less ondefense and making sure the venom gyre just shreds everything

hollow panther
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boneshatter or RF for league starting?

hollow marlin
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Boneshatter is better but the playstyle is what decides it

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Boneshatter is extremely click intensive, rf you just walk

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you actively use AS totem, damage totem, vaal totem, blood rage, berserk, focus, leap slam, frostblink, boneshatter

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rf is just shield charge, dash and fire trap i think

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maybe curse if not using hextouch

violet nymph
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how do ya'll estimate the worth of a crucible tree

pliant jasper
pliant jasper
violet nymph
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yea

pliant jasper
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Tbh I haven't sold more than 1 or 2 yet

violet nymph
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cuz theres trees i feel are good

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but

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idk how to begin to

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idk how to search it

violet nymph
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my approach has been to just make public stash tab w them but i dont thatll get me anywhere

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does the weapon need a crucible tree to be able to merged w another weapon?

sullen cloud
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Pretty sure the answer is "yes"

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but technically I haven't tried

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Low rolled T1 fractured crit on a rare int amulet base...I hate trying to price fractured items

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it seems like it should be worth something

lone ivy
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YOO

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I got a pretty good crus tree prob for sell Pogott

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30% global dmg, -15% attack speed but 1% crit, 30% chance to gain unholy might, 24%^ phyiscal damage over time and tectonic slam and infernal blow deal 1% extra dmg per 450 armour

sullen cloud
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nice

pallid beacon
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If anyone finds a battle scarred hideout ill send pay 30c for the hookup

jaunty parcel
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What map

lone ivy
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if my main weapon should I merge it with a good tree and hope for the best?
and if its bad then I just get rid of tree?

pallid beacon
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its in promenade @jaunty parcel

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im about 300 deep and still havent found one shits ridiculous

jaunty parcel
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I'm keep an eye out

sullen cloud
lone ivy
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thx

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if its shit ill just remove it sxD

sullen cloud
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Just don't allocate it if it's bad

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Until you get another good tree to merge into it

last burrow
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Anyone here who would help me by killing hydra for me? its scoured and i still cant do it 🙂

sullen cloud
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I would if I weren't going to bed, sorry

last burrow
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ty mate have a good night

fresh mortar
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Is there cheap build but can happily farm? i guess no. Think Fire Trap Elementalist is right for me.