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same with up down up or down up up
but if you go down up down or down down up then you'll be at the lower of the T4 nodes, which is connected to a T5 node
but given what it is, you won't 🙂
You can only progress along the connections that exist, in other words
I've would have shared a screenshot If I could but what meant was I've got a weapon with 2 paths from the start point, one is 1 node long. If I went the path which ends with 1 node but still have 2 points left can I go to the other direction from the start point?
or a more extreme example
Exactly like that
if you go down at the start, you're done
which is unfortunate because the last node is this
and the down node is this so they're both nice
In my case I'll be losing 8% as but still got flat phys accuracy and weapon range so still really nice
Thanks again, you helped a lot
no problem
god, I wish someone would actually respond about these bloody chromatic orbs
why do I keep playing builds that require 5 off colors argh
Sorry, I meant for Crucible depth - If I wanted depth 5 potential on a unique item, which Ilvl min would I need to find
Trying to hit the Firestorm Crucible passive on my Martyr of Innocence Highborn Staff
how do i keep my golem alive during crucibles, it gets one shot by the storm thingies
how do u play this crucible?
I've been avoiding it because leveling offhands turns off all my auras and would be a pain in the fudge
and then I can't level up any gems if i do that
rather just ignore it
and then im collecting bases like im doing the chaos recipe 😭
they literally added the ability to forge the leftmost item in your inventory just for people like you...
channel it less
wait real?

im so glad i asked
lol
kekw
only one i've got was 20 scouring orbs on step three lol
Hi i need some help or a guide how to correctly fusion crucible trees on a yellow item,
First item i had :
Node 1 +cold damage , node 2 +accuracy ,node 3 +explicit modifier
Second item i had :
Node 1 +attack speed, node 2 cast speed and node 3 support by lvl 10 combustion
I fusionned item 2 on the top and item1 bottom,but i got the same tree on item 1 as before :/
i've been trying that, but it still rips even on barely any charge
well that's more obvious than I'd realized
The actual exact same tree? That's unlucky
why do your sockets look that way?
It's a UI option
I switched it up to look different, I think it's supposed to be accessible somehow
talk about no nerf for crucible monsters at max charge incoming, take cover
Oh it's supposed to make some fake 6 links more obvious
imagine interacting with the league mechanic
what is a fake 6 link?
I've been blasting fully charged crucibles since I hit maps, most of the time
I'm actually not sure what the complaining is about apart from some mod combinations being slow and getting killed occasionally when I'm dumb enough to stand in the circle
Eh, you should be revealing bases in maps
Don't have to reveal your main weapon (though it's usually a good idea) but other stuff to get ready to smash it into your base later
the problem is that it's kalandra all over again
mobs with higher EHP than some of the pinnacle boses
that drop nothing
what is GGG thinking
Some items have lines that look like a socket or link line, people advertise a 6L on trade then gives people 5L
if I want 6L I filter by minimum 6 links and never had this problem
Crucible nerf, wowzah
does crucible feel good now?
Crucible is surprisingly consistent when you're actually smashing bases together
is it only a nerf or did they made them drop loot now?
Finding good bases would be painful except that there's a million of them on trade
For literally nothing. 1-5c for most decent trees, say 25c for the geode to smash them together
yeah feels like this league was made for SSF
So w8 based on what I read in this new patch does that mean that we weren't suppose to fully channel the Crucible Passive Skill Tree but instead interrupt the process like halfway through? because I always fully channel every time although this had as a consequence to get some rare mob a few times that I'm unable to kill for example those that have life leech...
You were supposed to interrupt channeling if you're having trouble killing them
good strat is to go for like 50%
or even 25% if ur build is not up and running yet
I didn't even knew we can do that, channel less than max, I learn it by accident 😛
I feel like ballistas would be a good build for this league
drop them and run around dodging the overtuned rares
Ballistas are a very good build for this league, can confirm
I play melee so I don't have this luxury
Drop a bunch as they spawn, run away, spawn some once your ballistas die then inch closer while dropping ballistas until something comes at you, then run away
Especially in the Forge map because it's... questionable.
Every league I've tried melee was my last favorite league, haha
nah ultimatum and sentinel were fucking epic
Lightning strike is the closest I've come to enjoying melee
pohx RF is pretty comfy
I did cyclone on ultimatum, I found it fairly whelming. I learned a lot after that, though
Ultimatum is by far my favorite league
I was considering RF this league but wanted to kill bosses and it seemed annoying
I loved the ultimatum mechanic, I just didn't like playing melee. Haha
fair, I just wanna do maps comfortably, so I am trying RF
every league I play something different
I'm doing champ EA and debating whether to switch to elementalist EA at some point
there's two builds I want to try right now
not sure if to make a second character later or wait for next league (since this one is so awful)
Although if I'd known more about the crucible trees I definitely would have tried to figure out a good Omni build
Because all those +%x/+%y nodes on the crucible trees are just begging for omni
this league feels like they want u to find a cool weapon with a good tree for a different build and then make a new character to do that build
asssuming you are SSF, that is
Yeah, I could see that
but for more casual or one character per league type of players this league offers nothing
and the fact that meta is to completely ignore league mechanic while leveling because overtuned+has chance to brick your weapon+u constantly change weapons every few acts is bad
Weapon trees are decent. Auto allocate first node needs fixing and they did not balance the nodes very well, but that means there's lots of interesting stuff to put in
Nah, you should do it while leveling because good trees are nutty when leveling. Basically getting weapons that are like 30ilvl higher than you are
so far I haven't found a single good tree
and the fact that the first node can have a build bricking downside is insane to me
its almost as if ur supposed to only use league mechanic on weapons in ur inventory and not your main, until you unlock the tree
Just reveal stuff you're not using then equip the good ones. Acts are when you change gear anyways
You definitely are not supposed to reveal on your current weapon past like level 5
I've got a +1 bow skills, 7% attack speed, 32% dot multi (-30fr, easy to fix) weapon tree right now. Trying to get it fixed up to add +2 min frenzy/endurance (-2 power, which I don't use) or something else (even another dot multi), which would be even better
It's a big chunk of power. Just a little awkward, especially if you don't have the resources to perfect a base and then start the rest of your crafting on it.
You can get +dex/str/int gems, keystones, a bunch of good stuff. The weird part is that most good nodes don't have downsides, they're just really good. (Like +6% to 2 stats.)
oh yeah people at endgame who invest into these weapons will have a good time.
But it's funny that one league we have so many new players is the league the most anti-new players
The game has 10 billion things to do for a new player. I don't think this league mechanic will be make or break for them.
not so sure about that. It's one thing they will encounter a lot while leveling.
And new players don't often know you don't have to charge it all the way. So they spawn overtuned AN level mobs that kill them, and then they have to pass the same part of the map to go finish their act.
I can't imagine it being any fun.
Every other league we had encounters, it was either in a different area or it despawned the mobs if you failed.
Ultimatum, if you die mobs explode.
Kalandra is in a different map, if you die you go back to acts.
Sanctum is in a different map, if you die you go back fo acts.
How's carrion golems elementalist this patch? (or recently)
can you change the crucible tree on a corrupted item?
respec the tree on it i mean
People are really mad at this league
For a returning player im having a blast... with every other mechanic i never interacted with
why can't I find any on trade or poeninja?
How do you Respec the weapon passives???
in forge in map
ye but how does it work, example i want to keep node lvl 3 bottom but remove nodes 1 and 2 , can i do that?
And I don't see an issue with that just as you do not craft on your main weapon, but on a separate weapon until it is ready to replace your main.
only by merging two trees together and praying
ye i think i will just buy a good tree and replace mine it will be easier 😄
perks of trade league, you don't have to interact with the mechanic :)
it just sucks if i have to buy/loot 100 differents weapons and buy/loot 100 different geodes
Meanwhile I'm wondering whether to craft on this ilv 68-ish shield with 100% avoid bleed and poison, or try to transfer these mods onto a better shield. :V
hello guys
Also booo crucible mob nerfs, though granted it was to be expected.
guys
I feel avoid bleed poison not super good. Bleed is reactionary and poison barely notice it once u have res
Unless you do expedition a lot
what character u guys reccomend
U mind dying?
nono
for nimis spark/KB
i am trying to build towards that
so what character should i choose?
Yes, but I could instead use armour against chaos hits and negate poisons for dots instead. :V
anything better than nimis spark/kb?
RF always works if you are absolutely clueless, but this isn't really the place to ask anyway.
RF meaning?
Righteous fire, refer to pohx guide
I like deadeye if u guys didnt tell me i would have made random character lol
anything better than those two?
what is the best weapon in game?
best build
BF or BB?
Fairly sure wardlooper isn't league start friendly, but still. 😛
then hollow palm flicker strike yes
anyway, when I combine trees and retains whatever I allocated, does it roll tiers?
dude u're in the wrong channel
you need to make sure you make it strongest build
nobody cares about your build choice
has anybody else gotten a bug where they haven't gotten league rewards?
Just one question anything stronger than wardloop?
Like I didn't get my gloves from the challenges, but I got the boots
I got both
ward loop is like the 7th best in game lol
@abstract pelican Venom gyre strength stack is better than wardloop
Anyway, anyone mathed out the main differences between 1h and 2h trees, or are nodes completely unique to either?
2h have better trees but not sure if unique
PoEDB provides things come out each league, as well as items, uniques, skills and passives. Path of Exile Wiki editing functions.
you can hover over to see when it says 2h
can i replace a wand crucible tree with a bow crucible tree? or need the same type
same type
will try now 🙂 ty
and the x% explicit mana modifier works for all items or only weapon?
Is there anyway to reroll crucible trees or is it just the recomb thing?
There is a geode letting you erase a tree
Looks like there's not much particularly interesting crucible-wise for RF builds outside of random increased damage or smol multiplier...
80 dex is good, saves a few suffixes you can then use for chaos res for example
but nothing too impactful yea
Under poedb, how exactly does the spawn tags work? Notably, can fire dot multiplier appear on minion wands? (Since it's way easier to roll inceased minion damage than increased fire damage on ele weapons which I'm not even sure classifies as a caster weapon ..)
Wait, checking, there isn't even any increased fire damage on weapons, its only shields. :X
can you allocate multiple paths in the crucible weapon tree or only one?
only one
I've heard people say that the first crucible passive on an item is determined by the enemy type and that you can just skip the mobs and try again to get a different mob type in the next map.
I have tried this and think it has worked once but never again. anyone know how this works?
thanks
Did the patch “help”?
should i level up the gems?
are those gems leveled up aswel?
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/HooWoo/characters
so is the crucible mechanic useful at higher levels or is it just bad?
anyone getting this in pob?
higher lv can unlock stronger nodes
yeah i mean thats cool but while leveling I'm gonna be swapping ger in and out a lot so theres not really a chance to level up any given weapons crucible tree, so its not really worth to even pay attention to crucible until I'm using weapons that im not gonna throw away in 3 hours
its a neat mechanic and i enjoy it but it seems grossly inefficient to even look at it while leveling
Its broken as f but boring in higher levels
Getting a local crit or as node on weapons is busted
Because it gets multiplied by the crit chance mod
well hopefully i can get to that. cuz broken mechanics that make me obliterate the game are FAR more interesting than a mechanic i ignore because its not worth my time
Like spine bows get up to 11% critchance
But you often also have dogsh** on mofs
Mods*
Like attribute reqs
I dont think it does tbh. You can upgrade passives if you combine them and thats the tier i think
whats the maximum crucible tree size?
willing to bet not many people know that atm
I assume it's 5 since that's the number of passives the "support only" staff gets.
how's golems this patch?
crucible monsters on full charge - loot confirmed 🙂
i guess this rare had some mods, there dropped lot of gems(just one was visible) 😄
if you upgrade a breach unique with a blessing, does it retain the tree?
Rare bug unfortunately
is there no lfg channel in this discord?
Seeing that you have the xbox icon, if you play on xbox you may ask in #xbox or in the console server found in the xbox channel
@eager charm I play both. I'm on PC right now
if you want to combine crucible trees does it only have to be the same type of weapon or also the same base?
new one shot mecanics but this time it one shot your game client
like can i fuse a spine bow with a thicket bow
bruh??
i combined a bow with 7 passives and a bow with 6 passives
how did i get that
this + this = this
does ilvl matter for the crucible tree that i can reveal or only the area level that the forge is in
Maybe rest of the tree is hidden?
Gotta love whispering the top 50 people and not a single one responding.
i just wanted galvanic arrow mines on a solarine bow and i end up with that
oh that looks fun
I find I have to relog sometimes
you get stuck in a group or something
merged a +2 endurance/frenzy min charges bow onto my bow...it kept "chance to inflict withered and 50% chance to be withered when you take chaos damage from a hit" between my attack speed and my fire damage multi 😦
what crucible mods would be good for a CoC build
do the crucible mobs drop loot now?
Nope
If I remove a crucible tree using the furnace, can I get another one somehow?
maybe scour the node and try to allocate again
read the mods of the map
Am I the only one who has yet to touch crucible since hitting maps?
It seems the only way you can actually interact with it is if you have a weapon currently in your inventory that you want to progress on. The problem is I had the unique weapon for my build the moment I hit maps. I can't do anything with it at the crucible without a geode, and I have no interest to go out of my way to trade for an item just to enable the league mechanic.
It feels like I am playing standard. lol
you'd just get exploded anyway
and even if you do want to upgrade your weapon with it theres a super high chance that its trash ... and a small chance that it just outright bricks you on the first passive
its also bad while leveling since your always changing your weapon every like 20-30 mins
so you never have time to actually use it
That too, another reason why I am not sure I would even want to do it. Pay money to make my weapon worse
Same reason I don't corrupt anything myself. lol
also its kinda sad they locked unique trees to only be from the crucible map ... would have made alot of uniques useable if you could just get trees on them from the start like rares
Yeah, it is strange honestly. In many cases the unique weapons are the budget option until you get a good rare. They act like it is the opposite.
ye
but honestly thats a core game problem '
the fact that they value rares more than uniques ... or even that they dont give uniques any way to scale better than they already are ... LE has the whole legendary system ... D4 lets you rip mods off of uniques to put on rares
poe hates uniques for the most part ... outside of like 1% of them kek
The entire league could be made better if they made it so uniques were treated the same as rares, and allowed the trees to be rerolled in some way.
well the way you reroll is by smashing soo many trees into your tree that you eventually lose all your mods kek
True, I guess you could buy multiple weapons for your build and swap between what is best constantly while smashing their trees together.
but ye
there should totally be a way to just scour/reset the entire tree and reroll it
like from the start
the best outcomes always come from merging so its not like it does anything for the top end
just the average playewr
Yeah, just the rerolled trees could have a max of how many good passives they have so you are still incentivized to smash.
it already does
Ah
most of the really good passives only come from the passives that pop up when you merge multiple trees
if your just picking up items and rolling the tree on them they will never get those
Well then, yeah. Just make it so you can reveal unique trees as easily as rares and allow tree rerolls. That would take care of a lot of the problems. Then all that is left is fixing the bugs and mob balance.
anyone know if crucible trees depend on ilvl of item or the lvl of the zone where you unlock the tree?
uniques have even more penalties than rares lol
cuz
you have to get the exact same item
to smash them together
on top of needing to go to the crucible maps to even put a tree on them in the first place
if you remove a tree from a unique item do you need to do another geode map to unlock it again or not
im pretty sure the item
and the zone lvl determines the xp they get
so you cant lvl everything up in act 1
sort of
you want i 85 bases to have all the mods
but then you want to run lower teir maps at the specific item level that those mods apear ... and it will block out the other higher teir mods while giving you all the i85 benefits
at least thats what ive been told
Has anyone noticed Karst passive not working? He's not lowering the alert level raised whatsoever.
can you merge trees of different max depths
what happens
also do you get penalised in any way for using low level items for merging
like maybe the node strength is lower
yes
always prioritizes the lower item level item
its the same for vendor stuff
like the 3-5/1 recipes
i mean yeah but those dont always matter
Does this reroll my entire item tree?
I assume the item will be brand new and I will have a change for a better tree? Or how does this work.
do the geode furnaces work like the altars, or just a crafting thing to go interact with?
any1 tried abyss with the new atlas?
what?
oh man i bricked myself with that +26 attribute
like all my things i wear get turned red 💀
old tree will be removed and you can add new tree on normal map
Hmm you sure? I just skipped it but I saw a reddit post saying it just doing what scour does in maps.
It keeps the whole tree but all nodes are grey.
Ok thanks. Will keep it mind
Maybe they just got super (un)lucky and got the exact same tree
Wait so it's not possible to merge unique trees in crucible?
So you're locked out of the good nodes because you're using unique items?
this guy still hasnt gotten the memo
screw the average player
poe is a hardcore game
need geodes
this does nothing to harm the hardcore gamer at all
it harms the V I S I O N (tm)
no its always been clear to nerf the average player as much as possible and move as much power as possible to the top end
Someone help me out.
In Path of Building, on the boots it says this:
Do i need to put all the listen gems in ?
OHHHHH
Not fully linked
?
can you still get multiple blight? it hasnt happened to me
enable molten shell
People keep playing though, because everything else kinda sucks. LE is cool but not nearly as great anymore.
its better than it was before, what do you mean?
its only been getting better every half a year xD
soon we will have trade and ssf support
How is abyss this league?
Trash
Is the league worth playing yet
It was at the start, so, yes
Time to die 6 times and lose a divine wish me luck
Abyss is fun tho
And has one of the most sought after jewels.
Plus you can get a cracked darkness enthroned now
is there any way to see somewhere the extra dmg I gain from Intensity stacks?
Ingame? I’d hover over the skill while casting a couple of time. But tooltips are very unreliable
that's what I'm doing it doesn't show any dmg increase in the supported skill whatsoever no matter if I have 0 or 3 stacks, the dmg doesn't change at all
So the Primeval Remnant allows you to remove non unique crucible trees but not unique ones?
can i remove the first point?
do you guys think it's worth to get a +2 maxres fractured shield base right now or nah?
what do yall recommend for currency this league? i always get stuck and can never consistently make currency
essence is solid if you can kill them
i like abyss, u can force them on ur map just for 2c
well im going toxic rain idk if that is good for essence
i never tried to make money with essences tho
I remember hearing with a scour it remove even the first in theory
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/142742948038049792/1095480226751991969/image.png?width=1202&height=676
and they doubled from the atlas tree node boom
i tried, maybe u can only remove after the 1st?
Ah damn
There is a special forge that remove a tree
i want to do the tree on my main weapon, but dont want to break it
Or fuse something else into it could work I guess
Ye, how exactly? It may come handy
could i see your atlas?
ok
so u go in the altar, select the weapon u want, the tree will appear, and then open inventory and scour it
I'll pm you because this discord doesnt let me paste pictores
I see thanks
anyone have a really strong spark build link? had a guy kill maven and hes was running spark id love to get a good build and swap to it
at a crucible altar?
nice
brooo
crucible is lit now that you understand how to build trees
Yo guys, i've been having some good success with a method i figured out for combining Crucible Trees and wanted to share my insights so far! Definitely more to learn and show in the next few days!
📺➡ twitch.tv/Milkybk_
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0:00 Hello
6:20 Examp...
a game changer
this makes doing every crucible useful
I feel like this is literally what they said in the crucible trailer 🤣
I feel like grimro is like the only person in the world who understands poe leagues lol
how does he do it
Does item level, two-hand or single hand ,influence ? anything affect the chances of getting a vendor node on the crucible trees? I assumed higher item level but I don't know if it has a difference?
each weapon type seems to have a different tree
Does the map level of the Crucible have an impact on what tree an item will get? Or is it solely based on the item's level? To clarify, I'm asking about the initial reveal of the tree.
Undercover GGG employee with access to the codebase obviously
anyone can help me clear t16 poorjoys? you can keep the loot i just need completion
how the hell does combine tree work
do u need it specced? if you dont have it specced can you only reroll the first node?
i have no idea how any of this works!!
i feel bad for this guy
is that bad?
watched that, and now i’m convinced someone at ggg wanted to make a krangled crafting league and that’s how crucible was born (i’m actually enjoying the league but man does tree merging need some improvement if that’s how it’s intended to be approached)
hey guys , is there a item level requirement for weapons/shields to get the mod that sells for a unique ? i saw on poe db that mod is on t3-t4 of the tree , intending to farm some low lvl uniques in ssf r hc cruc
question regarding the forge: did both items to be the exact same item (like kauri chopper) or is it enough if they are the same item class (like 2-hand maces)?
im a bit clueless about, what is the sad part? Wrong node?
Why are people listing these for 40divs? It's already been split once, so it can't be fractured again. Shouldn't it just be worth ~6divs?
wait so you can split the one with 3 divine orb on tree for 6 divine orbs?
you can split any non-uniq with tree
so i guess the split beast price is going up this league?
ya probably
oh dang, I think I get it
it's rng, but still probably good odds
you can merge this tree onto another weapon, that new weapon won't be split
then you fracture it, and get 2 copies, repeat
keep going until you get unlucky on the passive merge
that's not busted at all....
What's the meta of leveling these days? I've been doing SSF for a long time.
Is it breach stones rotations?
used to be
thankfully its gone for good
no more 2k hp builds on the ladder
well hold up it actually isnt that bad
5way carries if you actually just want to AFK level probably
Break even by leveling 34 gems during it
hey guys, still couldnt start the league that i was busy... what are your impressions of it?
are you enjoying it?
its standart league with extra nerfs but there is enough base content to keep me busy
question :
how can i keep the first node on my crucible weapon but change every other nodes? ty
They said nodes that were picked have higher chance to appear again after melting so in theory best you can do is pick ones you care about and melt two weapons together
are all Crucible Perks local?
5 % reduced max life value on a shield that gives +100 max life, would that mean it gives +95 max life after that? lol
that would sound way too simple and not much less max life
would like to counter that -10 chaos res
but not if thats a flat 5 % less life
Max life mod isn't local. Local only refers to actual base weapon stats.
oooh rip D: thx
5% reduced isn't that much anyway, additive with other increased/reduced modifiers.
god, so much math in PoE, thats what my teacher meant by "you will need it later in life"
all in all my experience till now leveling weapons was terrible there was a few times I found a weapon that had 1 maybe 2 good passives but that's very rare, most of the time all I get is bad passives & that ruin weapons...
welcome to the ggg vision
You never craft on your main weapon, you craft on a second in hopes of replacing your main.
Though admittedly it also depends on what build you are. Ironically convoking weapons are prob best for RF build to crucible for instance.
oh ye another prob with spellcaster builds is getting passives suited for physical dmg...
Welcome to the Bad Gateway League
I mean the whole idea this new mechanic of leveling weapons & unlocking passives on your weapons is really nice I like it, but when all you get from leveling weapons is terrible passives that either doesn't offer any benefit to your build or even worse harm/ruin your build then you can't but be disappointed by this new league...
you can delete a crucible tree then add another one on your weapon, there are 2 differents forges
aha, well haven't seen that yet but from my experience till now it's like the chance to roll a good passive is less than 5% & the chance to roll a bad/useless/harmful passive 95%+ that's my impression till now
ye i had the same too, but after trying a few reroll/recraft tree it gets better but its an annoying experience still
How does combine work? Can i buy perfect tree for my item then merge it with my bad tree and pray it to take all nodes from first weapon?
Does it only merge leveled tree? Not all points that are available on tree?
What changed with abyss in crucible? Fully atlas specced into abyss, not a single abyssal depths/spire the entire league, over 100 maps so far multiple abysses per map
Seems statistically improbable at this point given how frequent they've been last few leagues
Is it safe to assume the economy is beyond saving
My understanding is it has the highest chance for allocated passives, then a chance for whatever is unallocated, then a lower chance for something new
where fix for divine printing machine
thx i leveled tree before merge, seems to work or i was just lucky lol.
how can anyone play this league for 4+ months
I don't play any league for 4
even ones I loved like ultimatum or sentinel
but this league is omega small boring content wise
does being in party (with quant bonus) help with splinters and woke gems in invitations?
This league sucks for me so far because it just aligned with my work schedule being super gorked and I'm on my 6th 12 hour day in a row and I've only played like 8 hours in the past week but I'm so itching for Poe I just can't play it so I'm listening to streams and videos it suckssss
I did so many maps and have only found 8c. im sad
pick harvest. single map you will make this amount.
pick harvest? from what?
Atlas tree
ok ty
guys, does base/ilvl matter for crucible nodes that you can potentionally get? or it can be worst ilvl and shit base still get good nodes aka this item sells for divines etc?
is it possible to buy the trigger enchant for my wand? idk how to get it and i just wanna do maps but i keep dying lol
why do i get expedition almost every single map, despite allocating trade embargo (blocking expedition essentially) ? didn't use expedition scarabs
Tell me how you do it, I want that 😉
If I want go poison bv, pathfinder or occu? pathfinder w/ asenaths and maybe obli?
the other day i got delirium 5 times in a row despite not having any bonus spawn rate
i assure you it's random 
bad gateway 505 i presume this is a known error
would it be possible to get some help with a t14 maven? I keep getting rolled by the bosses....
As always, i've lost my first character to the new league mechanic (one shoted by a rare without any offensive mods). When will i learn the lesson ? When new league mechanics will be already well balanced at start, without needing to be nerfed a week after ?
So many questions, so few time to live.
It is balanced
You choose how much you want to channel it
If everyone always can just channel it fully, then there is no point in having the option to channel
Ergo, max charge should kill you
It seems like it succeeded in that
I was half charge, and my character was pretty tanky 😦
Then charge it less
As a HC player, i won't risk myself again in Crucible mechanic if there is no nerf in offense of the mobs 🙂
Just charge it a tiny bit
Wtf
It's literally a mechanic where you get to choose to make encounters baby difficulty
Rog?
I see what you mean, but it sounds like a waste of time in the long term to go really slow on this league mechanic. Maybe i'll risk later. But thanks for your advice 🙂
since there are less currency drops this league, how do you guys foresee the max price of nurse cards in the upcoming weeks?

Talk about throwing the baby (you) out of a 3 story building (the build)
are 2handed weapons more likely to get vendor nodes and or do they sell for more than 1h
Huh, checked the top of the ladder for necros
None are using 6link covenants, surprised
I just 6linked mine, but I'm only like rank 125ish for Necro
It's honestly not that bad, just don't full charge them.
I am in HC, and I do them every time I find a new weapon that is potentially decent.
Level 86 now, been doing crucibles every zone almost since act 1.
I'm not SSF though, so my gear likely puts most SSF's to shame.
Bought a covenant for 7 divine and then 6linked it
Also bought oils for a jinxed juju, so am running 3 spectres.
Thanks for your opinion ! I might try to charge a sip next time 😄
random drop from Jun with a veiled mod, which got me onslaught but I didn't even see the stats of the boots I was about to vendor them and noticed
More confused why anyone would block expedition.
I spec into it, hard
It's so much currency generation
Map juicing with Exarch wouldn't benefit from Expedition, it takes time to set charges and detonate them.
It's very tedious to run
It's more early I do it, before end game bosses.
Though also on HC, I don't mess with those till I am VERY geared up.
Does anyone know if the 100% phys to fire conversion on artillery ballista converts the physical damage of the on-death explosion from a crucible tree?
I shoehorned Berserk into a spellcaster build, one that happens to be using shield charge lol
my god i love this weapon
So fun for srs
yoo how does one get a tree for their unique wep/shield
From those orbs, they drop from the encounter
You can check your fav weapon/shield on the trade website and check Crucible YES and pick one
Thats how i found this one, with 12% poison chance, minion dmg and attackspeed, its insane for me
and for 25c!
@acoustic pike you're playing srs?
"socketed gems are supported by lv10 fork" - is this ever a downside for a bow? t4 crucible tree passive
Yeah
what spectre do you use or recommend
kind of an stupid question but will ask anyway i'm running pohx RF jugg build, so it cant run elemental reflect maps right
So are essences worthless this league? I specced my atlas tree into them and now I see that that most of them sell in stacks of 200 for 1 div.
As long as you didn’t level up your frost blink
I mean, that depends on your definition of worthless
People always need crafting materials, so there’s always going to be some demand for essences
Can’t exactly expect prices to be the same league to league
I don’t do essences because it seems like a rather poor roi to me
I used to sell stacks of 30 or 40 for 1 ex in Sentinel. Farming 200 is gonna take me, well, five times longer. That doesn't seem worth it at all.
Per essence cluster your getting 3-5 items worth a fraction of a chaos each
wait, that one youtuber lied to me who said it goes well with Growing Hordes?
So I guess I am screwed, need to buy a bunch of unmakings from Kirac now and the lesson is check trade before you settle for a farming strat.
Meanwhile I clear an expedition and it drops a few raw chaos, and sometimes a logbook worth anywhere from 5-80c, usually 20-30
or do a lab trial and one out of every 4 get a 30c lab key, etc
Essences don’t seem worth it to me on non ssf
Dunno what happened with them last league
Maybe just more people did essence farming this league?
I didn't test that but if it increases Expedition pack size, I see no lie here. I meant that fast mappers might dislike Expedition because it takes a lot of time to start and clear it
This is my first league focusing on expedition, and it’s like… why did I ignore this until now
Like I said, they used to sell well. I guess them being on map device now just destroyed the market with them which really sucks. I have a tanky build and essences seemed like an optimal early farm strat together with strongboxes.
Offering to the goddess is worth 30c?
It was a few days ago, I think it’s dropped to 25?
The tribute
Not the base key
Using the atlas node to get upgraded offerings
Actually…
PoE ninja said they’re 90c now
Lol
Gift to the goddess
Yeah but how long before that tanks too. I need something consistent. Maybe I could use the essences to roll decent bases and try selling that.
That’s the thing though
Don’t rely on one source of income
Diversify and it won’t matter if one of them tanks
Pick 2
I went shrines, lab, expedition, and searing
Shrines just because they’re fun
The delve nodes are another option similar to shrines in terms of its affect on mapping, but has potential to be very profitable if you delve
Well, I am not on red maps yet so I cant do exarch and I would like to farm up a bit before I go there. Expedition requires scarabs to be worth it from what I understand and the lab, well I guess that one is cool, but it wont do by itself.
I’m only doin 12’s, so I’m not doin searing either
Or using scarabs
Or using the logbooks
Just sell everything
So you are specced into expedition, lab and shrines than?
Yes, and I’m currently filling out searing but not benefiting from it
Will get into t16’s when I replace my weapons in a few days
But once I get to t16’s I’ll be selling all my searing boss keys as well, just easy profit, let the bossers do bosses
can anyone help assess price of an item
Sold a conq map last night for an easy 30c, no idea why people buy it but they do
I have 3 spectres, a pale seraphim, an arena master, and a carnage chieftain
I only recently annointed my amulet to get the carnage chieftain though.
Only level 86 on Cruc HC, but almost geared enough to tackle pinnacles.
Have 6link covenant, still need a severed in sleep.
Definitely don't feel like essences are worthless
Getting 5-10 essences in average per map.
Divines are only like 85c on HC, so I can make a divine and a half per hour of consistent income off essences alone.
Does anyone know what nodes you need to combine to get the rampage crucible node on your weapon?
nice.
it also has SST passive to convert damage to lightning 30-50 per 15es
pls fix the trade site already im getting 502 bad gateway for like 3 days straight
Is this Intended ?
Turn split beasts into divines over and over again? Not likely. There's a chance to fail getting the node to transfer so there's a small chance GGG won't immediately disable this
I see, ive got this from a friend. Was wondering if i could get banned because it seemed pretty unfair. Ty
I doubt you'd get banned. Possible.
it's intended
No idea, but that sounds lovely. I used to weapon swap to get rampage, but that was rather jank.
Yeah I saw it on poedb but might be one that doesn't exist in the game. Rampage is one of my favorite mechanics I used to equip and unequip the belt, but it was so clunky that I stopped lol.
can someone explain this to me li5?
Any modifier on your item that has the tags "Caster" and "Damage" will have its value multiplied by 1.10
So for example, "adds 100-200 damage to spells" will become 110-220
the combine only mods seem either extremely rare, or have some specific combo needed
or both
I've been livesearching the dex one since leaguestart and only seen 1 so far
granted the livesearch also broke about 100 times so I could've missed some
I'm hoping somebody does a really good wiki page on combining because right now I get the gist but I'm hesitant about going too nuts
Trade site is brutal this league. Feels like it's always down.
Even when it's up, it's doing a lot of janky stuff in the background like saying you whispered somebody with the direct whisper option but not doing it
Is cold flicker strike viable as a league start, looks fun?
I'm checking every single 3.21 hotfix
but can't find any changes on blight
but I can't spawn the second one
can't tell if I'm being gaslighted or if I'm super unlucky
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3366304
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3324396
GGG shadow nerf on Blight lol
no wonder oils are so expensive
someone using toxic rain?
The Blight crafting option is pretty nice if you're going Blight rather than Blight + Strongboxes
And as they said, a lot of maps really did scuff the second Blight.
Triggerbots can allow you to cast two spells at the same time with CWDT (such as two separate curses in one trigger).
(instead of the same spell casted twice)
20% global damage and Master fletcher on my first rare bow
at level 15. Now do I keep that shit till maps or is ele damage on bows still better
i hope they do something about crucible xp
trying to get xp to unlock the T5 for rolling magma
I'm on T3 rn and it takes me 15 fully charged crucibles
to get to T4
who the f wants to do 50+ crucibles at max charge to unlock a build enabling node
and cant even speedrun it on low maps
you need reds to have any xp
on high ilvl
like 1 charge for T1 2 more for T2 3 more for R3 etc would be fine but the exp we get is silly in T4/5
guys can someone send me a screenshot of the pohx crucible rf jugg skill tree from the pob?Am on ps4 so yeah
You can try importing the pob to poeplanner.com and the passive tree should be correct
Works on phone even
any news on changes for this league?
the problem is it doesnt have alot of armour or evasion to scale dmg off of oof
Hey everyone what is a good class to start on crucible?
finished my tree 😄
does forging a fully leveled crucible tree onto a not leveled weapon give the forged tree full exp after forge?
oh it doesnt
as is tradition when I pull one card from a stacked deck, I have to finish the set and roll the dice
also as tradition, disappointment
has anyone seen this mod on a weapon?
Is the most recent patch already live ? My dumb ass can"t see a date of release
Looks like it. Says being released later today. Cant really go much later for today. 🤷♂️
How is something explicitly mentioned last league a shadow nerf..?
Any tips on how to get loot? This is my worst league ever for it. I get lucky to see a chaos, zilch in ways of actual useful currency/items.
Do chaos recipe when ur broke
Full set of unidentified rares sells for 2c
It's a good way to get started
If you're past that, just play the game, invest your passives
Don't invest in farming strategies if it isn't paying off
anyone got a sick vaal ice POB i could refer to?
has the patch come out yet? is it safe to run crucible on your main wep lol
It always was
You can just scour the node
All you gotta do is go to a new crucible encounter
Open tree
Scour the node
So can you just keep running it until you get a good tree then?
only two divines found so far and havent engaged much with the new league mech yeah ive had more fun at lakes but really i just dont know how to generate more divines on standard lol
is effect of buffs from golems worth keeping for carrion golem ?
im doing a zoomancer with 4 link SRS
I haven't had a single divine and just one exalt and I'm into red maps
im in red too jeez, but mine is just luck
first divine from acts and 2nd divine from trials lul
Did they remove chance to impale affix on jewels ? Because i can't see it on PoE affix and it is on a jewel on one of my old char
that i dunno maybe ask for help
Didn't mean to respond to your comment hh
Wanted to say i got 6 divines from the league mech just by checking trees on trash weapons
Yes so all of the people saying to not engage with it until map are a kinda wrong haha
but id be stuck doing white maps if i wanted to be fast at that
im on my own butchered minion build so red maps i gotta be careful
I did that for 2h straight tbh, it worked but it also works if you just do it while doing your normal mapping, just takes 2 maps to unveil the tree
Yes sure, and i got 3 mirror by killing Brutus
.-. No like actually
Source : trust me bro
that is too much RNG to believe
.-.
Have u not seen others farming crazily .-. And not sleep for 48 hrs
Or some shit
I've been one of those before kek
Ha yes farming blood aqueduc for 48h straight huh
its not impossible but 0.0001 of players luck
Haha 48hrs was fun wish it could last longer tho
its alright anyway its not even one week in the league
Ye
Koed on the bed
What exactly scales boneshatter? Is it just the weapon dmg and physical # to attacks?
can minion shield bases roll minion trees?
Attack speed too
And skill duration
@rain forge
no
they roll only normal shield shit
but honestly shields are quite OK to crucible as a crucible hater myself
they give extra block, life/ES on block, decent stuff
nothing life-altering though
i have yet to see any life-altering crucible that everyone hyped up this league would shit out
Can you stop on how much xp or how hard the fight is at the forge? I thought it was hold, release at a point and then the monsters spawn, but always makes me go and hold to a max point ( least using controller.
hello do we have an ETA on the patch
anything more precise than "later today" 💀
(considering its already 9pm in NZ, does "later today" mean in 12 hrs when they wake up..?)
It's out already
yw 🌞
Not just normal shield stuff, they also include some stuff like inc elemental damage. Why inc elemental damage is on shields and not weapons I have no idea ..
Does anyone knows how to get tier 2 primeval remnant? Is it a random drop or there is something specific in obtaining one? The first tier let's you combine trees of non-unique and the second tier let's you combine trees of items that are unique, corrupted.
this fucking game is getting so un-fun, have been playing this for 10 years now, and NO, ONE HIT KO IS NOT FUN
cant fucking wait for D4 so i can remove this game for good
If it's the Forge mobs, dont charge the bar too much
Is there a method of farming vendor nodes? I went through 50 bases and never got one
you know, sometimes you should stop instead of going through hate relationship
You dont need a reason to uninstall game, noone is forcing you to play it.
just take a long break man. It's pretty awesome what taking a year or two break from the game can do. I pretty much quit for a year and a half. Now I'm playing this league and genuinely having a great time. It also really helps to stay off reddit, that always seems to feed into the anger.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r-b3EXFRjUtHNn-DtR3lbUPs9DcHTbFi6v57nhLXIF8/edit#
do you have this league share like this?
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Imagine thinking D4 will be fun for more than a week
is there any website that has a collection of all cruicible nodes yet?
I'm Hiero with 4/4 min Charges. I equip a staff with crucible +2/+2/-2 minimjum CHarges. My End and Power Charges don't change. Should'nt I have 6/6 now?
Or do I need to raise my maximum Charges, too?
Doing this only lets you change which nodes you've chosen to allocate
server crash?
yup
Seems like the servers are out...
wtf i got log out and it just dropped an ex
servers up again
They patched us out
https://i.imgur.com/HJda5G4.png is this bugged? can't drag any item in, tried several with tries already unlocked
worked yesterday for me
doesn't work anymore it seems, fml
you know its a remove a cruicble passive skill tree furnace you have there right?
and not add to a unique
yeah, i wanna remove it from my weapon because it's shit, so I can try for a new one
I've tried several rare weapons, I can't drag any of them in
no gems socketed either
can you ctrl + left click them?
how do i progress in mines?
dont have any sulphite now to carry on travelling to finish my quest
The delve quest exists only ro show you what delve is. It has no rewards and does not hide any content behind it.
Just keep on playing
You'll find more sulphite later on
anyone wanna join me in eternal lab? my key
bad loot fatigue is real
think GGG missed a first-tier mod to remove, my shield has 20% reduced damage on first tier. :V
Anyone else having lag spikes in all zones, I have to make a couple new instances each time I enter a new zone for it to be stable. Going to be rough for mapping lol.
No lag
Well, actually yesterday I very occasionally got long lag spikes
Which got me killed like once
Did someone say there was supposed to be a sale happening tomorrow on stash tabs? I can't find anything about it online
well, I just learned something hilarious
If you channel the forge but cancel before it actually spawns any monsters, it doesn't give you any XP (duh) but it does use up the forge (hmm)
This might not make sense as something you'd want to do, but the idea was to quickly get the nodes reallocated on a weapon I'd just done the merge on (merge keeps your XP but unallocates all nodes)
Did the patch drop yesterday like they said ? Can't tell if it did
definitely did
it shows percentages when you channel now
and it actually puts a little label on too - over 90% is lethal, over 80% is "brutal" etc
Hey quick question since i'm not sure, will my raise spider be supported by chance to poison 🤔 ?
so vendor recipes keep the crucible tree right?
I thought they removed the downside of the 1st passive of a crucible tree?
Oh says moat
are nodes mre likely to stay when merging tree when they are unlocked on a weapon? (lie if they have been selected / earned)
is there a tool so we can copy paste the weapon tree to showcase it ?
It shouldn't as it's not a gem
Ok something is not right here, I have had Gwennen show up 5 out of the last 10 times with this:
i dislike that detonator mission
depends on your build but mostly not terrible if you're in red maps
The trick is that you just move forward a little at a time, spawn a very small number of minions, then move back
If you run Flicker Strike or something, might end up spawning huge packs of nasty mobs. Otherwise, it's mostly just dealing with the uniques because everything else blows up instantly now. I did one this morning with -15% max resists and didn't even come close to dying.
I think they've also been nerfed because pre-patch I swear there were 5+ uniques per map and this time I only fought 2 uniques/bosses
nvm OneDrive corrupted my config file
where do i find people to host unique maps together?
yes
skills granted by a weapon count as socketed skills
Oh. The altar tells you how hard your charge will be now?
Yep
Thats helpful lol
Charges can also crit tho
anyone able to help out with a t16 ulaman?
for an early endgame Toxic rain bow, is this work trying to 6L and crafting Chaos DOT multiplier onto?
Is there any currency too get by going for rouge exiles in the Atlas?
Can you choose the difficulty of the crucible forge? Or do you always have to fight the hardest / longest hold?
yes. no.
Thank you. Must be a pc controller bug. I can stop charging but it doesn’t allow me to start a fight at lower difficulty, I have to hit X and keep charging to max.
Ah yeah I think they mentioned something about controller issues in the latest patch notes?
hmm
they didn't, where was it mentioned hmm
but yeah for example I can stop it here at roughly 50% if I want, and now in the latest patch they added the text as well to make it clear how much you've charged @zenith smelt
Thanks. Love the controller, but doesn’t let you use both or switch from controller to K&M easy or at all
welp
what's the point of this node?
more hitcounts
if it has less then it will hit more times as it passes through stuff ... if it has more then it will swing around and get back faster
won't it just average out to a 0% dps increase?
because this
its just like gonna be fluctuating between like 5% gain and 15% gain
but its still a win
yay, now I just have to fix my crucible!
dang
aight, i don't get the math but thanks for trying hah
napkin math owo ... its 100% not accurate xD
just saying that no matter how the thing rolls it will be hitting enemies more
cuz if it goes slower it will take longer to pass through big enemies
while if it goes faster it will swing around faster to hit the enemy again
I spent over 200c trying to craft 😢
I spent ~100c and settled on +2 bow +1 socketed gems on my first try
spent another divine but only used like half the essences I bought this time
spent two annuls trying to fix my first T2 roll (but hitting bow gems) then I got lucky and had open prefix/suffix on this one so it was just 1div for the "cannot roll attack", an exalt slam and a bench craft
technically I still need to go back and get T1 minion attack/cast in
When merging passive trees, if we want to keep the first half of the tree on our target item, do we just leave the source item unspecced?
allocate tree items you want to keep
I’d hate to lose runebinder or divine shield, but all the perks after those two are trash, etc
Allocate runebinder + divine shield (best chance to keep/upgrade them) but don't touch the trash perks
So it’d just be a 50/50 on if I get the perks from the item in destroying, better’n nothin
if you have to path through trash perks to get to good perks...then you replace your "added cold damage" with global dmage, but at least you get min frenzy
haha
In terms of the ones after the first 2
at least its slightly better kek
Fun
Though since setting up these two wands I’ve yet to see another wand with a decent tree
better than me
got litterally nothing good
well
outside of that 1 wand in ruthless with +2 to socketed spells
is their any list of tree modifiers for wands ?
try swap it in a forge with another on of the same type of wep
use a forge and prey for it to change the first skill
ill give it a go, thanks!
Ideally you’d just find an existing item with the tree you want in that item class to copy over to it
oh thats a good idea, didnt even know that was an option. cool
How much time do i use the crucible forge if im just starting right now?
or should i save them up?
Why is Reddit calling item splitting an exploit lmao
It’s amazing that ggg themselves has to come out and tell them it’s an item in the game and to get good 😂
Btw, you can do this with the trade site
Just filter to the primary things you want then find one with the ideal tree you want
I see some pretty decent ones for me for less than 20c
How much time do i use the crucible forge if im just starting right now?
or should i save them up?
I wouldn’t use it much while leveling
Definitely once you get to maps or are farming BA to prep for maps
I used it in act two for both of my wands, and got +80 str and +80 dex, made me not need to think about stats while leveling
Replaced them before I reached BA
my interaction with cruicible is getting a tree on my weapon and having itbrick it and then learning about the scour to not use the tree, then ignore the mechanic
Sigh: Litteral the worst time to crash, just finished lab, opening the treasure boxes and a divine pops out and then game crashes :/
Sounds like the time I lost a mirror
Not to mention i have to run the lab again
It is possible, but it’s… probably not with the effort
OMG AGAIN
You have to get a remnant that has the affix “remove crucible tree from forged item”
Then run it, and it removes the tree… then you can add a new tree
It’s easier to just combine a better tree on top of yours
Cool thanks
Can you remove the first skill on a item?
YOu mean a Crucible tree?
Yeah
Go to another Forge, and select that weapon, and when its showing the tree, use a Scour on it
It seems like the last guy i need to kill is stuck there :/ rip
Cant damage it at all
I love this game... lol I a just about to start the crucible league. 😄
Any poe expert that could look at my venom gyre build? feeling a little week and very small mana problems Thx
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/BiboBTW/characters
any quick guide to forge tree combining? i went with what i assumed might work but 3 times now its just spat out a pile of unallocated nodes
that's what it does
well i mean i put in two swords with allocated nodes i want, people saying it gives bias towards them, but i havent really seen any bias lol
it took 7 allocated nodes and gave me 1 and a bunch of random other ones from both swords
Anyone know if the 'defeat metamorphs with at least 5 monster modifiers' aspect of Monstrous Metamorphs challenge is talking about map mods or the mods on the organs themselves?
my uneducated guess is organs with 5 mods
Does anyone know where I can find the ilvl requirements for crucible passives?
you should craft as much flat ele damage as possible in your ring amulet gloves and claw. If you want you can even do double claw for higher base ele danage
you should also consider herald of ice and wrath/anger to get more damage as well
i went through story pretty smoothly by focusing less ondefense and making sure the venom gyre just shreds everything
boneshatter or RF for league starting?
Boneshatter is better but the playstyle is what decides it
Boneshatter is extremely click intensive, rf you just walk
you actively use AS totem, damage totem, vaal totem, blood rage, berserk, focus, leap slam, frostblink, boneshatter
rf is just shield charge, dash and fire trap i think
maybe curse if not using hextouch
how do ya'll estimate the worth of a crucible tree
It's similar types of mods, which could mean a lot of things. Allocating first is still a good idea afaik, but basically just keep melting them in until you get a good tree than do it more with an alt weapon until it's better
The neat thing about them is they can take the place of important build elements. Are you talking about selling to other players? I think searching for similar crucible mods works, but I'm not sure that's the best way.
yea
Tbh I haven't sold more than 1 or 2 yet
fair
my approach has been to just make public stash tab w them but i dont thatll get me anywhere
does the weapon need a crucible tree to be able to merged w another weapon?
Pretty sure the answer is "yes"
but technically I haven't tried
Low rolled T1 fractured crit on a rare int amulet base...I hate trying to price fractured items
it seems like it should be worth something
YOO
I got a pretty good crus tree prob for sell 
30% global dmg, -15% attack speed but 1% crit, 30% chance to gain unholy might, 24%^ phyiscal damage over time and tectonic slam and infernal blow deal 1% extra dmg per 450 armour
nice
If anyone finds a battle scarred hideout ill send pay 30c for the hookup
What map
if my main weapon should I merge it with a good tree and hope for the best?
and if its bad then I just get rid of tree?
its in promenade @jaunty parcel
im about 300 deep and still havent found one shits ridiculous
I'm keep an eye out
Generally, try to merge good weapon trees onto your main weapon's tree, yeah

thx
if its shit ill just remove it sxD
Just don't allocate it if it's bad
Until you get another good tree to merge into it
Anyone here who would help me by killing hydra for me? its scoured and i still cant do it 🙂
I would if I weren't going to bed, sorry
ty mate have a good night
Is there cheap build but can happily farm? i guess no. Think Fire Trap Elementalist is right for me.



