rich hare
i have not experienced failing an encounter.. i died 7 times in the coast on the first totem thing
#1┃mirage-league
torn isle
failing means dying, and all you lose is the exp for that specific encounter.
unless hardcore of course.
viral bramble
Oh its not per encounter, that make more sense.
livid birch
is "reduced attribute requirements" local?
the odds are low but like there are a bunch of global things in the crucible trees so yk
torn isle
hm. minion wands do seem to mostly roll ONLY minion modifiers, which could help with early minion gearing a lot.
violet nymph
hello
elfin cliff
I had a wand that had a skill tree that ended with "Sell this item for a unique goat wand". Was a low level wand and only had to do 3 crucible nodes.
tired spindle
What level is righteous fire?
torn isle
I had a wand that had a skill tree that ended with "Sell this item for a unique ...
that doesn't help when you're trying to see what crucible nodes flat damage wands have. 😛
can't remember, but first gem you receive / purchasable from act 2 (believe it's old bear quest)
tired spindle
Okay, thanks
smoky geyser
woooo UNRAVEL THIS
honest dune
the odds are low but like there are a bunch of global things in the crucible tre...
Mods on rares are typically local
Ofc i meant for this specific stat btw
livid birch
k
torn isle
Mods on rares are typically local
he's specifically asking about the crucible mod though.
ruby nova
Did the server burn down during launch? Will I be able to play once I finally get off work?
fickle wasp
why my skins only have "Tier 1" available even when i actieved 40/40 chalenges last league ?
sand bone
Did the tradesite just go down? Getting a 502 bad gateway
molten heart
NOT saying that voicelines are bad..
but they could be improved
Like Grigor. he could have tons of lines. but we are fine with lame shit!
Just how the grior quests work, he could have been a major stepping stone shit
no need for skill drops, (but if so, some skill that encompasses Grigor's hatred)
Like every sarns quest giving their own aura!!!!
im in pretty pretty bad shape, but thats pretty good right? with lore and all?
obtuse hamlet
Fix the trade site 😒😒😒
grand imp
this mechanic is hard
obtuse hamlet
Its a shame you dont look at the chinese version and implement a trade module into the game...
Its not like we have been asking for it since beta
😉
grand imp
or the console versions
obtuse hamlet
Chris be like: we want player interactions!!!!
His whole userbase: No we dont
Chris: YES WE DO
woeful halo
this isn't the place to talk about that
hollow marlin
holy shit first time playing bonezone and this shit is insanely fun, especially with 30% increased local attack speed crucible mod
torn isle
no idea what that is... boneshatter?
hollow marlin
yep boneshatter juggernaut specifically
hollow plinth
@ruby nova servers did not burn down, launch was pretty smooth actually at least the first 2-3 hrs so you should be fineb
unkempt sorrel
portals forblight can get stuck in crucible
torpid scroll
should i ignore crucible when i start the league? early levels ?
it seems impossible
short spire
Charge it very little till you get a feel for it
ruby nova
<@189064148791853056> servers did not burn down, launch was pretty smooth actual...
Good to hear
thorny fiber
Is there a way to see the.. Crucible XP on an Item?
made one Encounter (pressed to half~) and Weapon doesnt look anything different
torn isle
Maybe it's just me, but it feels like einhar significantly makes crucible fights easier (and not just from the hp regen)
mellow elbow
is there a bug rn with the party saying that ur team members keep joining your party
everytime you enter a new area
indigo fulcrum
hi, does manaforged+frenzy+ensnaring arrow work? i can see my frenzy going up to 3, but i cant tell if ensnare procs or not
haughty oracle
can you smith corrupted weapons ?
pallid sand
any help, i cant put the unique item in the antique furnace, it wont let me
robust fjord
hmmmm
velvet tinsel
my luck today is indescribable
torn isle
can you smith corrupted weapons ?
Not regular corrupted iirc, but unique corrupted possible with endgame crucible.
shell wigeon
Is there a way to see the.. Crucible XP on an Item?
made one Encounter (pressed ...
Once you have earned the first ability on the crucible tree you can then right click the item to see progress
cursive glen
midnight rampart
So which would be better for me to use right now, vaal ice shot with 5% quality , or vaal lightning arrow. Im in act 4 currently level 40
thorny fiber
Once you have earned the first ability on the crucible tree you can then right c...
aye, guess thats the only way then
hoped you could fill the first ability 50 % and then 50 % in the next encounter, and you could, but you would not know how much Crucible XP you really got on that thing
not the worst thing, just a slight annoyance
feels like you pump the first Ability to 100 % directly anyway
(but if that is WANTED, why make the first channel so long, stops the flow)
midnight rampart
Do notable passives on weapons stack with the one on our passibe trees? I found a bow with the fletcher passive for +1 arrow will it stack with the fletcher passive on our character tree that gives +1 arrow?
static moat
Do notable passives on weapons stack with the one on our passibe trees? I found ...
No
celest blade
have leech mods on rare mobs been buffed? dont think i remember mobs leeching that hard before
violet nymph
Played for 17 hours straight. Crucible krangle gamba league is too addicting bricking or god crafting weapons. Now I go to sleep.
vital cargo
so like when are they fixing this league : ) i love getting 0 drops and having to pick up every white item
junior belfry
Is there anyway to remove a crucible passive?
I wish we could see the tree before applying the first passive
blissful skiff
okay to ask build questions in here? i trying pohx RF build and idk if cause its been awhile since i played but its using rolling magna atm as not upto library yet to get gems for RF.. its damage is so bad.. idk if cause i am really bad at using rolling magna
torn isle
okay to ask build questions in here? i trying pohx RF build and idk if cause its...
New RF strat is to start RF in act 2 once you get the fire mastery that gives life regen based on uncapped fire res.
blissful skiff
where do you get the RF gem from though?
torn isle
purchable once you kill the white bear in fields.
blissful skiff
😐 oh dear i swear i looked..
torn isle
the white bear is an optional quest, you might've missed it. :p
blissful skiff
do you mean the Den?
torn isle
den yes.
blissful skiff
yes i did the den
🤦
okay i will try that in the morning.. cause i can't take this rolling magna skill anymore
torn isle
you do need to get the fire mastery first too to sustain that RF, but yes.
blissful skiff
which passive you mean by that.. i got a bunch of the life regen ones.. and aronist
torn isle
It's one of the fire masteries (also need capped fire res to start, but that's obv; get all the fire res you can past cap for the flat hp regen)
neat rover
its me our league mechanic is absolutely dogshit also mobs dont drop any items
distant condor
Ek or arma brand ?
lean lark
Been stuck on vacation all weekend so I haven't had a chance to login yet. How's prismatic burst? Where's it obtained?
torn isle
crucible mob def drops items. (it's how you get crucible uniques, for instance)
blissful skiff
oh fire mastery passive .. mm i still a little way off that passive 😐 .. just found it in PoB .. is there something i can go that not rolling magna in meantime
torn isle
you said you've arsonist though? The fire mastery is there too.
rigid leaf
oh fire mastery passive .. mm i still a little way off that passive 😐 .. just f...
Holy flame totem
But rolling magma should be more than enough damage to get to RF at lvl 17 ish
blissful skiff
it took me forever to kill the pyramid boss in act2
sonic stirrup
it took me forever to kill the pyramid boss in act2
Is your main dps at least 3 linked with supports that help your damage?
hollow panther
hey anyone playing SRS and hows it been holding up for ya
blissful skiff
holy flame totem + added fire + summon phantasm
and then rolling magma + arcane surge support
using flame wall
that my damage setup atm
sonic stirrup
Summon phantasm seems a bit debatable, but that's a pretty decent setup at least
storm smelt
so uh
is my item bugged
i can't get that last point
100% xp can't crucible it anymore
torn isle
after the 2nd, you need more than 1 crucible run to get enough exp for next tier.
storm smelt
yea the max exp was reached
torn isle
ah, unsure then.
haughty oracle
can you smith a corrupted weapon ?
mossy matrix
so you can completely reroll tree?
mossy matrix
can you smith a corrupted weapon ?
no, unless probably in special map
sonic stirrup
can you smith a corrupted weapon ?
Only uniques @mossy matrix
mossy matrix
then yeah, mirrored and corrupted items can't gain new trees (but still inherit them from original items
mossy matrix
Only uniques <@548198039085645846>
can you merge corrupted items though?
lean knoll
crucible has been... interesting
full sending the first one i found at level 2 was pretty funny
hidden cove
i started ea ballista, but seeing how good tr ballista is, im thinking in rerolling. What do you guys think?
runic zephyr
Am i missing something or does the league mechanic get obsolete during acts pretty fast? I got a +1 sceptre in like act 3, got endurance charge on kill on it... Then what? I cant see myself getting a better weapon anytime soon, and crucibiling a normal sceptre just for the tree..?
daring haven
Abyss trove bugged with the crucible. cant open it 😦
wild cloud
Does anyone have a skirmish or storm bow I can have can pay later
prime tree
Am i missing something or does the league mechanic get obsolete during acts pret...
i'd say there might be more scenarios than just during acts where you can kinda just ignore the league mechanic either because you don't stand to gain anything or you simply have nothing worth using it on and it feels like a big waste of time and effort
fossil stump
First map : divine ord 🙂
violet nymph
lol
lilac spoke
who wanna play poe with me
turbid sage
Question:
Are regular staves not getting spell perks on their crucible tree? In the poe news they showed a unique staff with the ice spear and ball lightning perks but i cannot find any staffs with it on the trade page. Only wands/scepters/shields.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs5f5r5aIAAp6PV.jpg
lean lark
lol
Gotta be a decent wand and a couple decent crucible trees in the mix there. Those drops are actually kinda exciting now!
violet nymph
**Question:**
Are regular staves not getting spell perks on their crucible tree...
They said it was subject to change on release, could have changed
turbid sage
you'd think one showed in news a couple days before the league wouldnt change =\
wild cloud
Anyone have 2c I can barrow. Will pay it back
drifting thicketBOT
Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.
balmy moss
why is it so bad?
sonic stirrup
why is it so bad?
Because, for obvious reasons, crucible trees are based on item level
balmy moss
okay, fair enough, maybe these stats arent so bad at lv9
sonic stirrup
yeah
Well, the can't chill is kinda lame
Only if you already did good cold damage though
and +0.4% crit really isn't that bad
balmy moss
because its more?
sullen cloud
I might have gotten a late start, but I feel like acts have been pretty profitable. Got a divine on act 6 and a +1 min frenzy Grand Spectrum from my cruel lab
turbid sage
Can I craft (chas/ess/ect) on items that already have crucible tree's without resetting them?
wondering if i can just focus on getting a good base item before crafting
fathom grail
First thing you gotta do is setup some mtx right?
tired spindle
Why is there still no hardcore chat on this server. We're second rate citizens.
fathom grail
Masochistic tendencies shouldn't be promoted.
digital zodiac
Any mods online? i want to report a bug
patent ridge
Where did the bug touch you?
cloud iris
1 mob remains on the twilight strand... they keep getting stuck in the altar
real cipher
anyone here where its their first league and want to hop in a chat?
shadow gorge
how do you get your free kirac stuff? I cant figure it out
tight schooner
Anyone got issue when You fill whole weapon exp but you still dont get last passive?
rotund pine
u can only merge tree with same item base right? like for example i cant merge a short bow onto an imperial bow right?
oh nvm, same class will work
rip, i should've unlocked more trees on trash pickup
hybrid fog
First thing you gotta do is setup some mtx right?
i never start my leveling before i set up my usual MTX loadout, looking cool comes first
violet nymph
Personal rule on MTX is first lab. Any character that doesn't hit lab isn't worthy of MTX
hybrid fog
leveling just hits different when u have a giant reaper reaping the soul of the act bosses
you can only start putting trees on uniques in late maps right?
violet nymph
Whenever you get the forge map thing with the specific mod.
lol.....
It was on live results
as if I get rate limited like that lmfao
Looking for boneshatter build
Solid one
I can't believe I pulled a pure eva chest
let's fucking go lmfao
serene mango
anyone know why it is kicking me out when I try to log into my character?
vital cargo
i've been fully charging crucibles until hitting t16 now and dont think i've seen a single currency drop : )))))) most rewarding league so far
steep dock
Hmm how does one report in game bugs
had the 'Izaro drops a unique on death' and he dropped alot of rares, but nothing unique when he died
violet nymph
Is there How's golem this patch? I want to lv golem elementalist in HC
woeful halo
i've been fully charging crucibles until hitting t16 now and dont think i've see...
its not a currency pinata league lol
crystal plover
Is cruicible worth doing in acts if you have a unique wep already that you might use well into maps?
tawny pasture
people already answered you
sullen cloud
Is cruicible worth doing in acts if you have a unique wep already that you might...
League mechanics are rarely worth it before maps and this one is mostly used to try and make really good bases for crafting, so...no.
crystal plover
League mechanics are rarely worth it before maps and this one is mostly used to ...
ty didn't think so
quiet turtle
can someone explain how the mechanic works for groups... I'm playing with 2 other friends and it seems sparadic who actually gets xp to apply for the crucible passive skill tree when we do one in a map... How can we ensure everyone in the party gets xp towards the next node on their weapon???
elfin maple
How is the mechanic?
gritty heath
How do you unlock crucible area they have shown in the trailer? The one with the giant dude
violet nymph
How do you unlock crucible area they have shown in the trailer? The one with the...
stone ball things
gritty heath
How do I get one? Do they just drop from mobs?
candid anchor
so far this league just feels like a far worse scourge, no item drops or unique ways of fighting enemies etc
sonic wasp
man I get they wanted to make crucible hard but why does a crucible thats quarter charged one shot me
violet nymph
so far this league just feels like a far worse scourge, no item drops or unique ...
scourge was good
i liked this league
sonic wasp
so far the crucible shit has just been so un fun
candid anchor
which is so rare as to be pointless when considering it
candid anchor
people keep reporting not getting stuff even at t16's
if it wasnt for all the new ppl showing up after trying d4 or w/e this might be the lowest retention league
trail heath
Question about rolling Heist Contract/Blueprints do they scale the loot in the major chests and the rewards at end or should you role just as a normal map
violet nymph
my friend dropd like 2 exalts in acts
reddot just complains
i had my best leveling experiance in last 800 hours of game
violet nymph
and idk how you cant recognize that
my firned found an +1 bow with an +1 tree
another friend in ssf found an 3 t1 mod sword with some chonky tree in act4
i was also complaining few leagues ago but now i trust chris
candid anchor
still doesnt change you getting astronomically lucky
swift charm
has anyone faught khoma warden of the vents from crucible?
candid anchor
saying you had the best leveling experience after that without any reflection
on the lack of loot, varied encounters etc
gritty heath
So wtf do you do with the league mechanic once you crafted your main weapon?
violet nymph
So wtf do you do with the league mechanic once you crafted your main weapon?
id random items
like unquies
gritty heath
I got a good tree too, but it's so boring after that
violet nymph
or some good rares
like u can find item sells for chaos / div orbs
or sells for another item of same base type unquie
gritty heath
You can also find nothing, which is terrible for a league mechanic that has no loot
violet nymph
well these mobs gives a lot of xp
gritty heath
In fact most of the time trees are useless
gritty heath
Every league had some loot at least, these mobs just drop nothing at all, feelsbadman
violet nymph
some ppl found mirrors in
u can get some good trees and craft on them
just get a good item base and id their trees while leveling
or maping
violet nymph
Every league had some loot at least, these mobs just drop nothing at all, feelsb...
somone leveled up like 5 levels in once from a rare cruicibe monster in act 1
they are for xp i guess
gritty heath
That's just regular rare mob reward type though?
candid anchor
regular leagues let you upgrade too via loot drops
and in a way less restrictive way
also in a way that wouldnt put you to sleep
gritty heath
I'm just saying the league mechanic is boring. I haven't seen the new area yet though
Hopefully it's not super rare
candid anchor
been playing on and off since the first founder packs etc were up, think this is shaping up to be the worst league, might quit day 2 even
violet nymph
poe players when league mechanic dont drops mirror tier loot in act 2 :
candid anchor
if i wanted regular weapons but stronger id just play trade
fun is the important part
grand imp
man nothing feels better than having the first node in a crucible weapon complete ruin the weapon for you. So good.
playing attack speed build, first node on your good weapon reduces attack speed by 10%
JOy
hasty perch
the crucible trees are nice but man the mechanic is boring and not well tuned either
if you full charge and get lightning mobs you rip
candid anchor
dont worry im sure they'll fix it 2 months in when it literally doesnt matter as per usual
i swear they're releasing stuff broken just so they can flick a dial and go hey we fixed it
hasty perch
like im fine with mobs being strong but blue lightning mobs in a white map should certainly not hit for 3K damage on a champion with fortify suppress and capped res
candid anchor
metamorph organs etc
sonic stirrup
if you full charge and get lightning mobs you rip
If you fully charge you're supposed to die
Literally well tuned if you actually die to doing so
What's the point of having something to charge if everyone just maxes it?
So they made it strong enough that it will actually kill most people if you do
gritty heath
My only issue with charging is how awful the interface is. Just let me select difficulty. Sometimes it lags and jumps forward
queen flame
Man, the League mechanic feels really boring compared to the least leagues
If it atleast was rewarding
But both boring and unrewarding isnt doing it for me
lean lark
How long does it usually take GGG to put out the first major update after a season starts? Out of town all weekend and won't be able to play until Monday at the earliest. Wondering if it's worth waiting until 3.21.1 at that point.
torn isle
Every league had some loot at least, these mobs just drop nothing at all, feelsb...
they do drop stuff, it's just that because you usually kill them slower than normal enemies, the drop rate is hence effectively slower too.
gritty heath
League is boring, no major updates to main content, I say skip unless you're an addict like me
lean lark
I skipped the last league
I see it's usually about 2 weeks for the first major patch. That's longer than I want to wait
I like the concept of this league. I don't care if the mobs drop nothing. Isn't the point of killing then getting experience for your weapon?
gritty heath
Yeah, it just feels like 1/2 a proper league. You get some weapons done and that's it. Gets boring fast
brave marsh
I see potential for marohi and uul netol axes if you get those cracked attackspeed passives
tired spindle
I agree the league mechanic is pretty lame. I'm having fun with the mastery changes though and the vaal skills look fun
The charging is really hard to dial in or really know how much I'm juicing it. Or what the heck the mobs are going to do. And so far the mods I have gotten have been really boring. Hoping to find some fun ones at some point
grand imp
The idea of passive talents in weapons is cool. But you should be able to turn them off if the passive sucks.
And the charging of the thing stinks because it is very unclear. Make it a slider or a difficulty select that offers x amount of exp and let players pick without guess work.
cobalt prism
I've found that ignoring the bars and just looking at the ground and the size of the red cracks really helps with gauging how hard it will be
Wish the mobs hp didn't inflate so quickly though
lab map still not refreshed yet
grand imp
I've found that ignoring the bars and just looking at the ground and the size of...
Yeah the cracks and stuff are the best indicators. But it doesnt really give you a good idea of their hp or strength.
rotund pine
somehow just after i google it
grand imp
Honestly i played with a friend last night and maxing out the crucible was always really hard.
But today i made a new solo character and the crucible is much easier. I wonder how much stronger stuff is when you have a teammate
That's my guess. They dont really expect people to max things until their build is basically online
Also how much value is there in investing in crap you get via campaign
Like messing with nodes is fine. But like nothing in the campaign is going to matter
Yeah. I was using random crap to waste the crucible on because my gear was set for a while. And really it was a waste of time.
Like once you max what your using. The use of cruicble fades for a while
Yeah exactly
Supposedly there are secret node that cause the item to vendor for really good stuff. But like the effort to level random crap is too much
Some are unique nodes. Where the item sells for a unique. Which could be a mixed bag
But not worth the hunt
Im sure the poe streamers are going to figure out the dos and donts by midweek and there will be more strategy and info. For now it is off to a rocky start
That might be true. Especially since some passives can ruin an item
Sure. Ive not honestly gotten deep enough to know crafting very well. Im still very noobish
jaunty parcel
Do we know what time maps give the best tier for crucible trees?
grand imp
Passives with trade offs are fine. But i dont think they should ever be the first blind node. At least then you could just stop upgrading your good item if it had a ruining node.
jaunty parcel
Best as in highest
grand imp
The node can be blind. But it should never be able to roll trade off stats
jaunty parcel
I wouldn't mind if you could only see one node at a time
grand imp
Just limit the trade off nodes to later nodes only.
Shouldnt have to.
Especially aince a bad node can be crippling
Yeah that is also true.
torn isle
orb elementals are getting irritating. Also still wish we could spectre them. :V
grand imp
But also once you have your build items for maps. You also have no reason to use the mechanic ever again
torn isle
But also once you have your build items for maps. You also have no reason to use...
other than hoping for better items and/or the sell for item passives.
grand imp
Orb dudes are the worst
lucid burrow
what do I do with Krillson
grand imp
The crucible enemies are also a lot easier to kill on a jugg than a necro. Just as a general rule.
torn isle
Also seriously though, but wonder if there's some way to make ball lightning function the same way as those from orb elementals.
and some passives are ONLY from recombulating.
it's recombobulators all over agian.
steep dock
people saying the mobs drop no loot when I got a couple random uniques from them
they don't seem to drop anything except rare+ when they do drop something
abstract pelican
how do I respec point from crucible tree?
grand imp
people saying the mobs drop no loot when I got a couple random uniques from them
i think you need to charge it high enough to get items from the enemies, because the weak stuff drops nothing but you get items from the harder goons
night sluice
Hello! I just bought 2 crucible mystery boxes and got the Engineer Gloves and the Scourgestruck Boots. Do they do anything special like the chest armor ?
rustic isle
how are folks liking the new breach?
hexed heron
First time I've seen anything like this. So many boots
steep dock
yeah i've seen that a few times. Some mob modifier has it
stuck oyster
Anyone know if there any volatile dead build in 3.21 or its mostlikely a dead gem
tawny pasture
build didnt changed since ages
so old build would still work
only major change is the life of monster so less dps
for dd/vd build*
stuck oyster
I just randomly remembered a flickerstrike / volatile dead build i did long time ago and i had a blast haha
patent socket
Is anyone getting more lag this league than others? I'm having an issue with it and I've never had this before.
smoky geyser
blissful skiff
I have 30% fire res ring +5 all elemental resistances. I put on 21% cold res ring and my defence tab goes from 76% to 71% . Did I just find a bug?
fluid pewter
So how's everyone enjoying the Scourge alpha playtest league
fair aspen
is it only weapons normally for forges, and then the forge map things have options for uniques and such?
violet nymph
dropped a bow with all ele damage types + crucibled a chaos damage and 10% chance to inflict withered on hit with 20% increased effect of withered. With ice shot that shoots and pierces a million times. This is insane. Too bad it only dropped in Act 4, not maps.
fading quail
Anyone know how the forge of titans works? I can't seem to put any items in it
smoky geyser
ah yes, "all" the chaos spells
torn isle
whee mouse blocking test of tooltip :V
covert maple
Do we know if area level has effect on the tree you reveal or is it predetermined on the item somehow
lucid monolith
Crucible wants me to change build xd
torn isle
Do we know if area level has effect on the tree you reveal or is it predetermine...
believe it's based on item level, though area level does determine how much xp the item can get iirc.
lucid monolith
Do we know if area level has effect on the tree you reveal or is it predetermine...
i got tier 3 mod on ilvl50, so it probably does.
torn isle
Actually, will mirrored items have the same crucible trees?
hasty scroll
you can't put a mirrored item in the crucible, dunno about actually mirroring something with a tree however
marsh oracle
how come I can't find any +1 power charge crucible? did they specifically do not drop that?
violet sleet
Hi everyone, first thought about the league ?
north dragon
hollow mason
Are there any softcore content creators that focus on min maxing profits?
turbid sage
Question:
How do Geodes Work when combining crucible tree's?
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Can I use any base item as long as it's the same generic type? Could I use any other claw to merge a crucible tree into my gemini claw?
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Is there any other rng factor when merging tree's, is it 50/50 split on which mods are rolled into the original item? Is there any rng where new mods can appear that weren't on either of them?
onyx knoll
What we thinking about crucible so far?
empty karma
anyone good at pricing jewels ?
torn isle
- as long as it's not unique, it just needs to be the same base item type.
- There's a lot of RNG. It's more likely to pick nodes that are specced into, and there're some random nodes that are only available by merging too (so rng to get those)
violet nymph
Any other bases I should add?
rotund pine
good lord reddit really hate this league lol
lean lark
If the only difference between how much you charge is the amount of experience you receive, that's a valid complaint. But is that the only issue?
blazing ice
They aren't wrong.
thorny fiber
I wonder if the Crucible charge UI is simply buggy, its so.. weird, inconsistent and delayed
fickle mesa
I have this bow, but I didnt used crucible mechanic on it yet, does the very first node have any downsides/
?
because Im scared of getting like: deal no elem damage
unreal beacon
I have this bow, but I didnt used crucible mechanic on it yet, does the very fir...
I saw some downsides, but not as scary - minus res mostly
fickle mesa
my friend told me that I can get rid of crucible from item using scourge is it true?
versed crane
Hello, can someone help me with merciless lab?
gritty heath
You can remove a node with a scour
empty karma
do you still have to use a alch orb on a yellow map for it completion ?
junior belfry
Is there anyway see the first node on a crucible weapon tree before it is allocated. I already bricked one weapon, dont want to brick another.
floral mirage
i kept hearing about crucible monster being very strong, but isnt a lot of player can achieve milions of milions dmg numbers?
floral mirage
Is there anyway see the first node on a crucible weapon tree before it is alloca...
nope
mossy matrix
i kept hearing about crucible monster being very strong, but isnt a lot of playe...
problem is that monsters are strong before you can reach millions of damage
junior belfry
anyone else connections just die?
neon herald
yeah
hushed plank
Here
More than 10k in queue right now, saying server is still not up but I was placed in a queue
compact mural
I'm back in
torn isle
I'm still playing (never dropped), Singapore realm
twin thunder
trade site just died
hushed plank
Yeah, server just let people back in
chilly harbor
trade site is deadge cant whisper anyone 
winter igloo
Hey! i was wondering if someone wanted to do a league start with me! im in lobby league start 1
graceful quiver
kinda sad uniques cant be crucible'd until much later, almost makes me want to consider doing normal bases and then chancing them once I get a good tree
but that also doesn't work on all weapons
frosty basin
Once you get a tree, that's it, there's no way to get a different tree?
rotund pine
Once you get a tree, that's it, there's no way to get a different tree?
only way to change is merge another tree to it afaik
rotund pine
Is there anyway see the first node on a crucible weapon tree before it is alloca...
u can scour a node to unallocate it
robust crypt
nice challenges
frosty basin
I challenge you to read it
dark prism
what do you need again to get a tree on a unique?
pseudo oxide
anyone done a primeval remnant? what is it comparable yo difficulty wise?
remote wyvern
dude i had no idea that the charge level meant difficulty in the mechanic
i thought im supposed to full charge to start
been getting one shot by omega archnemesis demons
fair aspen
Hold until pop. Obviously the only path. Fight them unique jumping spiders at level 10
ionic reef
how do i start over a bad skill tree on a weapon?
fair aspen
I hear you can use a scourge on the tree while at a forge, haven't tried yet
ionic reef
wut there are forges?
fair aspen
The thing you do the mechanic at is a forge
fair aspen
Well. I call it that lol
ionic reef
u meant scour and not scourge righ
fair aspen
Yes. Phone disagreed with me
lethal nebula
is there a website for currency flipping, like show which div card flipping makes money
paper geode
Anyone else learn a hard lesson holding down A (or whatever it is on keyboard) at the Crucible forge?
sonic stirrup
On keyboard it's click and hold on the node
I learned the lesson by watching the video
So instead I made my friend learn it the hard way by not warning him >;)
ionic cove
Frostbreath; glacial hammer or smite? which would work best do you think?
sour delta
Do crucible mobs ever drop actual loot?
solemn reef
chance orb league
faint ravine
What in the everliving fuck? Gz
ionic idol
That's pretty good
worthy dew
Just started playing a couple weeks ago. Haven't even beaten the game on standard but I really love ruthless so I'm trying to have my first game beat on ruthless crucible
balmy moss
weirdo
worthy dew
I started my first character in last league ruthless hardcore and learned that maybe hardcore isn't the best way to get an understanding of the game
balmy moss
best way to learn the game is to find a strong, easy, cheap meta build guide and play softcore trade, die a lot, make mistakes
ionic idol
The issue with hc when you're new is you have 0 idea what to expect from anything so you just die without learning what killed you
The game has no death recap to support your endeavor
Going through the game on sc to at least experience it then going hc is something I'd suggest instead
worthy dew
Yeah I know but I enjoy having fewer drops. Makes each drop feel special
balmy moss
use an item filter
ionic idol
You can play ssf sc btw
balmy moss
that's it
spare egret
Am i the only one who's server connection is just dying?
spare egret
ive been trying to escape act 2 to no avail :D
as soon as i am next to the zone door i get dc'd
there goes that running progress
chilly harbor
servers held the crucible a bit too long it seems
spare egret
the pot was too hot to handle
worthy dew
Sometime when pouring the crucible it jumps up a large amount. Is that just server lag?
spare egret
nah
chilly harbor
no its bad game design 
spare egret
its something to do with the mobs
worthy dew
Ahhh ok
fathom grail
man poe's trade has been down like everytime I try to use it.
untold oyster
Can't even import a character into pob.. it's not just trade
balmy moss
Sometime when pouring the crucible it jumps up a large amount. Is that just ser...
basically holding the first 4 seconds charges to 40% and holding for 1 more second charges to 100%
I think the progress is counted per spawned mob power and a single rare can account for a large chunk of the total
spare egret
I think the progress is counted per spawned mob power and a single rare can acco...
so when it jumps alot you know you are f ed
balmy moss
it really depends and I personally don't know on what. Sometimes full charge spawns some magic monsters and they're not too much problem. Sometimes not charging to full spawns 1 archnemesis that one shots me
its too random to trust it before your build is fully enabled to handle the worstpossible outcome
ebon birch
Where in the hell are my map drops? ;-;
ionic reef
hey, so how does it work when you get a shit skill tree on a good weapon? can you reset it??
spare egret
you cant completely reroll the tree can you?
lavish spire
anyone else having issues with trade site and pob not connecting?
fathom grail
anyone else having issues with trade site and pob not connecting?
Ya seems to be down
lavish spire
good times 🙂
fathom grail
yup lol
lavish spire
my pyre live search for 5 c broke it i'm sure of it lol
ionic reef
scour the skills
how do i scour the skills without scouring the weapon
balmy moss
scour on the skill
after opening the tree
from the deepest skill, one skill at a time
ionic reef
do i have to be at a forge perhaps?
balmy moss
I don't think so, but I haven't tried it myself, lemee see
kind pilot
you have to be in map yes
ionic reef
ty
um that just removed a passive, now its got no allocated passives but they are still there
so u cant get a new skill tree on a weapon
keen cloak
LF LAB CHANNEL ?
fair aspen
Man... learning that you don't have to charge to full each time is so much easier lol. Takes forever to finish a tree but at least I'm not getting instagibbed in my trash early map gear
fathom grail
Ugh I just wanna use trade.... hurry up
devout vigil
This is great, playing poe
fair aspen
Lol. "Only 18% to finish tier three and get those frnzy/power charge minimums! I'll just do it all at once it will be fine"
Spawns the spider unique with frenzy on hit map mod. Pogostick on crack lol
solemn reef
remember when chris wilson said we'll always have an item that sells for something that we'll be working on?
turbid flicker
but yeah, if the mobs from the mechanism dropped loot it would be even better
violet nymph
Remember when Chris said it was only a side project
solemn reef
with how little time was likely spent on crucible league they probably had a ton of time for their side project
hollow marlin
anyone know if the type of mods on an item affects the odds of getting specific passives in crucible?
gusty terrace
pob import down?
lean lark
so u cant get a new skill tree on a weapon
Combine it with another of the same item type?
clear egret
servers overloaded?
ionic reef
Combine it with another of the same item type?
does it sound to you like I was aware of that function?
lean lark
does it sound to you like I was aware of that function?
Nope, and I haven't played crucible at all yet so I don't even know if that's a reasonable option with where you're at in the game 🤷♂️
ionic reef
wtf
lean lark
Lol
ionic reef
xD
past spire
for the 'item sell for a chaos/exalt/ whatever' , do i need a special weapon in crucible? i pickup random rares on the ground but nothing so far
fathom grail
When did the shift to divines being top instead of exalt happen?
past spire
21/08/2022
solar grove
anybody know if the reduced attribute requirements crucible passive is global or just for the weapon locally?
fathom grail
21/08/2022
Very precise, what caused the shift?
past spire
no idea about the shift
it pick identifieds weapons , will show you in a screen in a moment
for me it shows my 2 equipped +2 swapped +1 in bag
wont work on quivers or such
sonic stirrup
Very precise, what caused the shift?
GGG Developer team
They flipped meta craft cost
And they removed divine vendor recipe
That now gives 20 fusings instead
Leftmost identified
fathom grail
Did they change drop rate of it too?
fathom grail
Interesting
sonic stirrup
They drop as much
But Exalted shards can drop from harbingers
And to clarify, divine orb and Exalted orb have the same drop rate as before, and as each other
solar tendon
Is there a way in path of building to simulate the numbers for next nodes in crucible I haven't taken yet other than doing "custom"? The one I already took does copy/paste. I guess the drop down menu isn't there yet?
I thought so, thank you @twilit sage
stuck pine
Baldness and Wendy's, I didn't know this is the Asmongold fanclub!
anyway, I came to ask how the Forge actually works, I've been channeling it to max every time like a madman, but it appears I don't have to kill everything to get the experience that I signed up for. Is that a bug? Or how does that work?
wise quartz
where is varesh?
frosty sequoia
any ggg response to trade issues
scenic tulip
is awakened poe trade not working for anyone else?
low forum
gilded raven
anyone using chaos enhancer? my colors are not changing when loot is dropping. worked all last league just fine
sonic stirrup
That just means he gotta stash something
ionic reef
Exactly what I wanted on my axe
tawny pasture
That just means he gotta stash something
can he in the middle of rog craft ?
sonic stirrup
can he in the middle of rog craft ?
You can literally quit league for a month
Come back
And finish the craft
tawny pasture
ahhh
stuck pine
hey people anyone has some tips on how to use the league mechanic? Like for example I infused a low level weapon about 3-4 times at the forge... at what point should I start infusing another weapon?
ebon birch
Is it just me or you cant do this crucibles with absolution
crude kettle
man im so broke this league
ran like 100 something maps and havent touched crucible at all
median nebula
Thinking of trying Ruthless this season, how is it? Heard the crucible is really impactful due to the low item quality
grave tartan
hi anyone who happen to have Dexterity and Intelligence rank 2 craft from betrayal unlocked?
can any kind soul craft it for my belt
im kinda broke so i cant offer much but since the craft is 2 alchs ill pay an extra one as fee : )
iron steeple
Are the crucible trees based on weapon types like sceptres rolling on caster mods etc.?
Just added a tree to my BLS and got only caster mods; curious if just bad RNG or its just broke
violet nymph
What's the lowest level you guys got currency passive on a weapon?
tardy bridge
Where do you farm The Porcupine when Garden has been removed ?
violet nymph
This is the best league I ever played
rotund pine
uh, how do u store the crucible exp?
viscid junco
recovery mastery and undertaker are OP
normal bramble
Just wanna ask guys, is there anyone here recruiting guild members?
violet nymph
so item sells for a divine orb can appear in ilvl 70
and recoup is op against these tonky rares
atomic mica
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3364231
So my weapon doesnt work, any way to raise this to GGG other than the bug forum
sonic stirrup
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3364231
So my weapon doesnt work...
You didn't grab this, did you...
obsidian pelican
Guys, I had to go touch grass today so now I'm 12 hours behind
atomic mica
Nah it's just bugged
sonic stirrup
aight fair enough
empty hawk
oh good another useless league
Shit mechanic and no new content
glad we waited so long for this
scenic crystal
is this 3% flat crit chance ? would this be a good trade on a harbinger bow with 8.65 crit chance ?
onyx knoll
is this 3% flat crit chance ? would this be a good trade on a harbinger bow with...
PoB it and see dps changes
obsidian pelican
I wish PoB actually worked to make changes for venom gyre
scenic crystal
PoB it and see dps changes
is the -3% before the % increased crit chance ? i mean if thats based on the 5% from the base stat thats 3.5 % crit 💀
i cant add the crucible affix on pob idk why
scenic crystal
wait you can scour the second node ?
well pob doesnt show the difference on the item but it does change the dps so i guess i got my answer F
candid anchor
apparently people have just been warping through the endgame crucible maps
seemed they balanced it (like the drops?) around ruthless where theres no movement skills
high fractal
finally found a good base tree
cunning bison
Is there any resource on how to combine the trees? For example, I have one awful tree on my good weapon, and a literal leveling bow with a good tree
devout osprey
Is there any resource on how to combine the trees? For example, I have one awful...
what we were told is that the nodes you spent XP on got higher chance to stay
cunning bison
what we were told is that the nodes you spent XP on got higher chance to stay
So I just go into the geode map, and bring the 2 weapons?
high fractal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/142742948038049792/1094786880417058917/image.png
60 crit multi and then the lgihtning tendrils node
any1 tried lightning tendrils totems this league?
devout osprey
So I just go into the geode map, and bring the 2 weapons?
one that youre going to melt, and one that is keeping the mixed tree
cunning bison
And can you do it more than once? So if the outcome is bad, I can keep trying?
devout osprey
yes
cunning bison
and just to be clear, it doesn't change the weapon whatsoever besides the crucible stuff
devout osprey
yes, unless you melt the wrong weapon, top weapon gets melted
frank jewel
If I play a no weapon build, is that gonna suck for me this league? (since it seems like crucible stuff is limited to weapons/shields? or)
cunning bison
yes, unless you melt the wrong weapon, top weapon gets melted
what is the map called to combine the trees? I cant find it lol
can I buy it off trade?
cunning bison
ah okay, thanks
devout osprey
ask in #1┃endgame-help
lavish coral
what are the requirments to get a 3rd teir on a crucible weapon tree?
lavish coral
3 node long path?
yes
hollow panther
Hows RF jugg been for the league, just starting it now
tawny pasture
good
fast oxide
have we found out any information about what rarity/number of socket weapon/shield is more likely to contain currency nodes so I can actually get something out of the league rather than skipping every crucible?
fast oxide
that's what I thought, just wanted to confirm. I guess they only want crafters to get anything out of the league
empty hawk
Its the exact same league as last league and the league before
So whatever you did last league
neat summit
have we found out any information about what rarity/number of socket weapon/shie...
idk ive just been targeting base types for uniques in hopes one shows up with the unique vendor recipe
polar stag
I'm disconnecting every few minutes with 1gig download and 500mb upload, what is going on?!
frail lake
Hows RF jugg been for the league, just starting it now
NO LEAGUE RF CANT EASE THRU
austere whale
How is the new breach? Worth putting points into?
golden escarp
i just found a divine orb in a lvl 44 area. how rare is that? completely new to the game but my friend was saying it was giga rare
toxic olive
i just found a divine orb in a lvl 44 area. how rare is that? completely new to ...
its pretty rare, and even more rare to find it during acts
so you pretty much hit a big for your leveling
toxic olive
just dont waste it during leveling
golden escarp
friend told me to sell it but he hasnt played in forever so we're both lost lol
toxic olive
you can check currency values up to date on the trade section of main site
toxic olive
friend told me to sell it but he hasnt played in forever so we're both lost lol
If you really need upgrades you can sell it for chaos, but if I were you Id wait a few more days before it increases in value
golden escarp
wait a few more days cause itll be worth more then?
tawdry plover
Yeah and you'll be progressed a bit further where that stuff have more of a use to you
Chaos rn can make leveling easier or quicker but won't give ur character a huge power budget beyond that
toxic olive
better leveling is nice but dont waste too much currency on something you gonna change in a few hours
golden escarp
i see ok that makes sense
yea theres just a lot rn that its overwhelming lol. trying to learn as much as possible. ty for the advice
quaint topaz
is anyone else crashing when charging their crucible?
it's happening 80% of the time for me
quiet sail
No but I just got 2 Knepha's in a single charge. So things are going well.
silver cave
I haven't started this league yet. Is chancing tree'd weapons a viable strategy?
quiet sail
That's.... a good question.
I'm not sure anyone has had the time or resources to try it yet.
rotund surge
What do I do, if my Weapon is max level, do I have to contently level weapons in my offhand slot or is the crucible mechanic just completely bricked for me?
ebon crane
Why this looks good for rf?
Like, regen chaos res and the fact that armor now applies to chaos
mellow tiger
Activate your windows
ebon crane
No
torpid scroll
🤣
mellow tiger
🤣
teal pasture
What do I do, if my Weapon is max level, do I have to contently level weapons in...
You can choose a weapon from your secondary slot or inventory
My secondary weapon is for leveling gems, I keep my crucible targets in my inventory
lime mason
mossy matrix
I haven't started this league yet. Is chancing tree'd weapons a viable strategy?
potentially as on stream they mentioned that tree preserved even for unique after chancing
lilac dock
Why is prism guardian so expensive this league?
toxic olive
wasnt it always early on?
onyx knoll
Any idea if ggg is addressing any of the criticism from the players?
astral nest
anyone looking for exp leechers
mossy matrix
Any idea if ggg is addressing any of the criticism from the players?
unless they have easter monday, there is no visible response for the state for a whole day, which is sad
toxic olive
Any idea if ggg is addressing any of the criticism from the players?
they do, but never expect something more then "we are looking into improving league mechanic, stay tuned" 3 day after league start
it can be either this wednesday or next monday "what we are woking on" where they write changes to league mechanic based on the feedback and how they plan to deliver it in the end of the working week
onyx knoll
cool, thanks both
ashen oar
Im trying to decide what path of my bow tree I want to go down, so Im wondering do this node have any internal CD or will I get a flask charge for every crit?
stuck sapphire
Im trying to decide what path of my bow tree I want to go down, so Im wondering ...
it has internal cooldown and only goes to one flask at a time but it is good generation still
violet nymph
how do you like this league so far?
lilac dock
Does jagged fossils spam affect crucible skill tree in item?
coarse shale
how do you like this league so far?
It's kinda meh to be honest :/
violet nymph
if im going to be honest i kinda feel like im playing standard
neat summit
F
elfin cliff
how do you like this league so far?
League is practically standard with optional crucible nodes that are severely overpowered and risky on good gear. Sometimes the first upgrade can break your item. The concept of the trees are nice but atm a bit dumb. Hopefully with the first or so update it will be better.
And the nodes are very repetitive fights. Just cycles three different groups of mobs. It's very boring.
sacred marten
League is practically standard with optional crucible nodes that are severely ov...
Even first nodes on the tree cam be scoured. If you get a node that bricks ele equilibrium for example, then you can scour it.
violet nymph
still feels bad
elfin cliff
It's more just lazy. They did not add a lot of new content to make the league fun. Just revamped some olds ones and added randomizing on weapons through bad fights.
And it's crazy because regular fights, even bosses are super easy. And then the crucible fights are super difficult. There's no in between.
dapper stump
Make Kalandra great again
sonic stirrup
And it's crazy because regular fights, even bosses are super easy. And then the ...
There is an in-between.
The difficulty is well balanced.
You choose how much you want to channel.
If everyone could just channel fully, there would be no point in making people choose how much they want to channel, so the highest channel is made to kill you.
Seems like it's functioning as it should.
Personally, I'm enjoying the league.
Especially now in act 6 where my build is no longer doing zdps because I had like 0 damage nodes early in my build plan because I didn't bother making a leveling plan and went with endgame skill plan for early.
elfin cliff
You're in act 6... then you're enjoying STANDARD so far. You haven't even really touched league content. But thanks for sharing.
golden ocean
Yea thanks for sharing literally 0 value.
You could’ve made a new char in std and have the same experience.
I don’t know what they needed 4 months for but it wasn’t this league.
tall cloak
Also the league feels better during leveling because you don't have a "fixed" weapon yet, so you actually get to try it. When you get a good weapon there is not much to do with the mechanic as it is not rewarding enough for how difficult it is. I am mostly ignoring it on maps, so it feels like playing standard.
Which is also a problem, because the league usually compensates with rewards, so it feels off.
summer inlet
anyone trade me some t1-t4 maps for others? trying to complete atlas
tiny sandal
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cobalt basalt
also the channeling is a shit mechanic, its a tedious waste of time that gives you way too limited control over the resulting difficulty, especially since it seems to continue for a tick or 2 after you release it, that sometimes takes it from 35->40 and sometimes 35->75 depending on what I assume what those 2 extra mobs are
it blows my mind how it made it through any sort of testing, UI has never been their strong suit, but this is far and away worse than usual
tiny sandal
testing?
tall cloak
Yeah, it is bad. I would not mind tho, if the encounter was worth it.
cobalt basalt
yea, i already handed in my resignation though
which is a bit sad, cause I had insane RNG so far, 2 6l drops before lvl 70, 1 corrupted and I think the 1st raw regular 6l i've ever gotten
atomic mica
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3364231
So my weapon doesnt work, any way to raise this to GGG other than the bug forum
flat ledge
is there a way to search on the trade site wether an item has a crucible skill tree?
violet nymph
hello fellow league bros
violet nymph
is there a way to search on the trade site wether an item has a crucible skill t...
only specific passives
zenith nimbus
I would like if it just had a slide bar. But that wouldn't work with multiple people in a group I guess :/
torn isle
question: does 100% chance to avoid being poisoned completely negate 20% chance to be poisoned?
hasty perch
Yeah the mechanic is dogshit
Adding a tree of pure powercreep on weapons isnt a "crafting league"
torn isle
Asking because I'm curious if this basically makes me immune to both poison and bleed with no drawbacks.
hasty perch
You are immune if you have 100% to avoid being poisoned
violet nymph
so when i want to reforge the tree on an already crafted item by forging it with another tree - will the base mods on the item (implicit / explicit mods) stay the same?
velvet heath
yes
random bay
so this will be my first ever league. Why does the skill tree look different than standard?
eager charm
It shouldn’t?
random bay
this league tree has things way off to the side all the way around. The standard doesn't have it. They look like other, much smaller, skill trees within the skill tree
and I can't even access the POE site to look at filters. Is their site down?
tall cloak
You should read about cluster jewels
On the corners of the skill tree there are special sockets where you can use cluster jewels. They add more passives.
lavish coral
my metamorph mob morphed into the crucible alter, seems like it's prob not supposed to do that
fair aspen
Altar likes to bug. I had one spawn on top of a firefly in the ticket and lock me out of progress in that instance
still ocean
can i reroll a tree?
grand imp
a cruicble tree?
grand imp
I think you can srub it late game but not during campaign
that might just reset it though, not change it
violet nymph
Maybe it's been suggested or even in the game, but why don't the crucible's potentially drop weapons that have revealed trees
Increasing chance with charge
still ocean
I think you can srub it late game but not during campaign
how? i'm at red maps
i crafted a badass axe and got a garbage tree
grand imp
how? i'm at red maps
im not sure. i don't think you can change the tree anyway, I think you can only reset it
still ocean
im not sure. i don't think you can change the tree anyway, I think you can only ...
how is that fair? lmao, i'm done with this shit
if you get a garbage tree on an end game item it's item done?
grand imp
how is that fair? lmao, i'm done with this shit
it's fair because it's just bonus stats on top of the normal game.
still ocean
kinda removes all replayability..
grand imp
PoE is plenty replayable without the league tbh. It's just an ignorable mechanic like Sanctum.
Also with a couple of fixes it would be a fine league frankly.
I just don't know how willing GGG usually is to make fixes.
sullen cloud
No, you can fix bad trees
maiden mesa
kinda removes all replayability..
can i have your items before you leave
sullen cloud
first off: you can smash a better tree into it and hope that it sticks
second off: there's another forge map that lets you remove the crucible tree from your item (this causes it to create a new one)
so basically keep revealing axes to look for good trees or "item sells for an igneous geode" so you can get more forge maps
ilvl on the forge maps is 80, so I'm assuming I'm going to have a bad time since I'm still going through yellows. Waiting for a better tree and for me to be a bit more ready before I jump on it
You can also buy the maps (obviously) and even search for bases that have the crucible mods you want
violet nymph
do i keep using crucible after finishing my weapon.
sullen cloud
I don't like this league mechanic but it at least lets you unfuck items
violet nymph
like i got the tree done but do i keep doing trees for weapon im not gonna use
sullen cloud
do i keep using crucible after finishing my weapon.
Yes, you want to find other weapons with good trees so you can smash them into your weapon (or make a super base for crafting on) because some really good nodes require that you merge trees, apparently
plus you might want to merge just because you've got 3 nodes instead of 5 nodes, etc
and they're one of the main sources of forge maps + you can sell good trees or get trees that sell for extra currency / maps
violet nymph
idk how that works but do i do weapons of the same type or it doesnt matter
sullen cloud
I think the same item class can be merged (eg: 2h melee, bow, wand) but I'm not sure if, say, staff vs any 2h weapon matters
violet nymph
so its the same item class only ok
idk if i would want to make a second character so i guess il use crucible on bows also
fair aspen
Is it red maps before you start getting anything but basic weapon forge? The forge maps, etc
sullen cloud
I've picked up two bases that got "sells for an additional igneous geode" in white/yellow maps
fair aspen
So my garbage gear is holding me back still then. Keep popping the unique spider and just getting wrecked lol
sullen cloud
yeah, I've been doing close to full channels on each one but I'm doing champ EA with pretty good gear for yellows
fair aspen
Went tornado for the first time. Enjoying it, but still wearing random crap from acts lol. I can kill yellows fine. Unless I get touched. So business as usual really lol
grand imp
I don't *like* this league mechanic but it at least lets you unfuck items
they shouldn't be fuckable in the first place really. The trade off nodes are fine, but they shouldn't be in the first location where the tree is blind. Frankly all the blind nodes should be safe things like "more X stat" or something. That way if something has a bad tree you can just not level it and no harm done.
sullen cloud
That's part of why I don't like it!
grand imp
also having to pick up random crap to check trees is dumb.
fair aspen
Can you slap trees on a corrupted weapon in a forge map?
grand imp
maybe drop a league currency that Id's a tree on an item? I dunno.
jovial sail
Can you slap trees on a corrupted weapon in a forge map?
It probably needs a specific forge for that
grand imp
most of the time it just feels like there is no reason to engage in this mechanic.
especially in the campaign
fair aspen
especially in the campaign
First zone of league, joined a party and guy popped a full charge at level 2. Everything was invincible lol
sullen cloud
mechanic is really good early in the campaign when you want to upgrade weapons frequently
jovial sail
Well you just need to have a lot of weapons to put in the crucible, I am in campaign and I find relatively good trees but you have to go a bit out of your way to engage with this mechanic
grand imp
First zone of league, joined a party and guy popped a full charge at level 2. E...
yeah, the mechanic itself is vague as hell and isn't really reasonable for people to understand
sullen cloud
because most of the first nodes are +damage and their build bricking whatevers won't usually brick your act 1-2 build
but then you get a few zones in and it's pretty pointless
fair aspen
Best I got during story was a nice elemental ranger bow and slapped on onslaught on kill and +2min frenzy/endurance
sullen cloud
in my case I also bought a Quill Rain for 5c in act 5 or 6, so I didn't really Crucible for the rest of acts
jovial sail
Tbh unique weapons should be able to get forged from the start
Maybe require a bit more experience
As a trade off
sullen cloud
There's really no reason for them to be treated differently, uniques are mostly leveling junk anyways
My peeve list:
- Can't forge uniques without a rare map
- Mechanic scales mobs too much and too erratically because each rare/boss you spawn makes the meter jump, which gives everybody crazy DR and +damage
- picking up random trash to reveal trees is weird as hell and clutters your inventory. Plus, it's pretty easy to accidentally sell something you're leveling because...it's trash.
- monsters from mechanic have crappy loot
- being forced into first nodes that could have downsides (even downsides that are upsides, like fire damage for EA)
grand imp
because most of the first nodes are +damage and their build bricking whatevers w...
i got an axe in act 3 that screwed me in the first node. luckily it wasn't too hard to replace, but it was a good axe
ripe kestrel
does anyone have deathbeam's char name on poe ninja?
lament wraith
Anyone got some ideas for a good league starter? have played rf quite a lot but want to try something new
grand imp
Anyone got some ideas for a good league starter? have played rf quite a lot but ...
there are lots. depends on what you're interested in
Minions, Toxic rain, boneshatter, there are a lot of things to pick from.
Explosive arrow.
lament wraith
something that is good league start but also good at end game
silver cave
Definitely not something everyone else is trying to find and figure out
I'd say just pick a thing and try to make it work. That's the essence of the game.
lament wraith
i have limited time so no
grand imp
i have limited time so no
look up league starter 3.21 on youtube and pick one
misty galleon
so, how could one go about re-rolling a tree, if you have a good item but a terrible tree on it?
restive anvil
Find the geode that removes your whole tree
Or one that allows you to combine a different tree onto it
visual girder
What ilvl does a weap need to be to fuse with an ilvl 100 weap?
grand imp
I wonder how many of the league problems are caused by trying to create a whole mechanic and system in 3 months.
rich mauve
Is it good?
minor merlin
I love dying in a 0 damage modded t2 map because I dared to charge crucible to 50%. I am a tanky boneshatter character and just get deleted by magic crucible mobs before I can even react. I am literally progressing through early red maps with 0 issue, but god forbid I want to do the league mechanic 10 tiers below me.
grand imp
I love dying in a 0 damage modded t2 map because I dared to charge crucible to 5...
I believe the mechanic scales on level of the weapon your upgrading not the level of the zone it's in.
still dumb though
minor merlin
I believe the mechanic scales on level of the weapon your upgrading not the leve...
what? There is 0 chance that the difficulty scales with weapon ilvl. The xp does, but not the difficulty. It is just overtuned to an ungodly degree.
grand imp
🤷 I heard that somewhere and it made sense.
it's dumb no matter what
clearly the scaling is bad regardless of how
kindred void
How's breach been treating everybody this league?
minor merlin
Yea that makes sense? You take an ilvl 100 weapon from a div card, take it into ledge, and you are now fighting lvl 100 mobs..... yea that is definitely how it works...zzz
misty galleon
Find the geode that removes your whole tree
Have you personally seen such a geode? Or are you quoting what you read someone else say? I'm trying to find it on the trade site as a map modifier, but I don't see one that says anything about resetting a tree.
jovial hound
How's breach been treating everybody this league?
its garbage
kindred void
?
jovial hound
its been heavily nerfed
restive anvil
Have you personally seen such a geode? Or are you quoting what you read someone ...
Quoting @sullen cloud
sullen cloud
It doesn't say reset, it says scour
kindred void
its been heavily nerfed
with the changes? didn't breachstones like double in price?
jovial hound
because they drop a lot less splinters/full stones in juiced maps
sullen cloud
but something seems off because I've seen someone describe it as a possible option on the geodes but I don't see it on trade site either
jovial hound
but running the stones themselves is ass now too, drops are a lot rarer
fading talon
misty galleon
but something seems off because I've seen someone describe it as a possible opti...
@restive anvil Found it! Thanks guys
sullen cloud
contains a furnace, ah
misty galleon
In the stat filter section, I found it by searching crucible
sullen cloud
hm, the "forged item will contain a sells for more currency modifier if possible" there makes me wonder precisely how it ends up working (because that one doesn't say items drop with revealed crucible skill trees)
Is that every item that drops? Every item you scour / merge inthat map?
misty galleon
probably just things that were made on the forge itself
restive anvil
The item you put in the forge I'd imagine
Or more specifically the one you get back if you merge
sullen cloud
Seems good if you're merging items with "sells for" on the tree, seems not good if you're trying to un-bugger your main item, haha
sullen cloud
5! 🙂
misty galleon
seems like one of those things that would be limited to 1 per gear.
sullen cloud
I've only seen them in position 3, so I'm assuming that it's 1
but I haven't really seen that many trees
misty galleon
Yeah, I'm only level 45 or so, can't wait till I get off work 😄
sullen cloud
work and kids means a lot of reddit/discord and limits on my playtime
but I'm level 85 haha 🙂
gaunt zenith
sullen cloud
...thought my gear wasn't very good but now I realize that the main reason my damage is "okay" instead of "pretty damn good" is gem levels, 
and needing to fix my socket colors so I can use elemental damage with attacks...darn it
RSI simulator
crisp frost
is trade broken atm?
flat ledge
is the trade website slow af for me only?
grand imp
no it's having issues today
obsidian pelican
Sliders > Click to Hold
modest coral
can you craft on items with crucible tree without removing it?
obsidian pelican
idk but the T10 crucible I did gave me an 18-22 cold damage roll vs the 5 giving me a 2-6 but that could jsut be RNG
hasty sundial
So im a completly new player and i just got two divine orbs on my first character this league in act 8. Any idea what to do with them? Do i just trade them for chaos orbs and jumpstart this character?
elfin cliff
rng.
obsidian pelican
So im a completly new player and i just got two divine orbs on my first characte...
Sell them when you're in maps since they're gonna keep going up this week
hasty sundial
Sell them when you're in maps since they're gonna keep going up this week
How many chaos orbs do you think i should sell at?
I have no idea what they're worth normally except what i can see on the trade site
obsidian pelican
idk dont sell both, only sell like 1 for ~130-140ish
sullen cloud
sell one now, pick up a few good pieces for your build (preferably that you can equip soon so you can go zoom zoom through acts), save the other until you're in maps so you can sell it to buy stuff that fixes your gear
You'll get more chaos later on and items will be a little cheaper, but turning money into gear lets you make money faster
Using my act progress as an example: I sold a min frenzy jewel for like 4div even though I could have held onto it and gotten 10+div within a week or so because the difference between a 0div character and a 4div character is likely to net me more than 6div in the next few days
obsidian pelican
yeah def buy like a 6L with one
then buy like an automated flask setup and you'll be GG on gearing
remote wyvern
pain
i just accidentally
picked the other one
as soon as i saw 'final boss' ignored it
.......
-3 i guess
didnt know that mod existed
faint ravine
Did they fuck about with Mapdrops again, or am i just stupidly unlucky?
Only starting out whitemaps at 15 completion and I'm 3 maps away from having to go back to acts to get new Tier1s because I have no maps left whatsoever, wtf
And that's including spending all chances so far on Kirac maps lol
remote wyvern
Only starting out whitemaps at 15 completion and I'm 3 maps away from having to ...
i didnt have any problem with map sustain at all. transmuted until mid yellows
- kirac missions
and some map buys with chance orbs from kirac
maybe ur getting very unlucky
faint ravine
yeah sounds like jsut me being stupid unlucky 😄
remote wyvern
but spend a couple chance
faint ravine
well, it'll normalize itself out eventually then
I spent all my chances on maps from kirac so far xd
remote wyvern
damn very unlucky then
faint ravine
happens
severe plume
Guys is it only me or are fusings rarer than chaos this league?
I dropped 10 fusings until yellow maps
remote wyvern
well, it'll normalize itself out eventually then
btw
i have a whole bunch of white maps
stacked i dont need
want some?
have yellows too
kindred void
faint ravine
Thank you so much ❤️
past spire
hi any tips to fast level up a crucible weapon to 4th slot? should i do t1 map fully juiced or t16 amp with 'hold click for 2sec' ?
forest glacier
Wandering path will help you a ton for getting map completed just get 100% chance for nearby maps and then go for map levels
@past spire reddit says xp doesn't scale with map levels so get your weapon and spam t1s
past spire
cool ty
tired spindle
Crucible rare takes 5 times longer than the act boss to kill lol
sullen cloud
ooh, fractured max roll T1 attack speed...but on fingerless silk. Is that still worth something?
sharp quarry
can you have more than one manaforged arrow active?
obtuse glade
did I just destroy my shield? Is this a global mod or just affects stats on the item?
sullen cloud
It's reduced, not less. It's not ideal but you can deal with it if the shield is good
It's global, though.
obtuse glade
thanks and why are there negative ones in t1, jesus
subtle stratus
is there a way to scour off one of the crucible passives if its the first one?
fossil rapids
you think they could've made the mechanic almost ritual-like? where the reward for killing higher rares is more currency to spend buying passives?
its rng on top of rng, the chances of getting all optimal passives are slim to none
normal pollen
past spire
i got one good earlier : but i dont know if it works for poisoned ground, or poison in general or only poison i get from direct hits
gleaming geyser
Couldnt find an answer anywhere, are passives locked to one tier? For example +bow/Dex gem lvl can only appear on the very first node? That would really limit whats possible for these trees
gleaming geyser
yeah, that mod couldnt appear on the second node righ?
gleaming geyser
i dont think so
cant see anything
but theres no bow on trade with both +1 bow and +1 dex gem lvl
so i guess you can only have one because both are he first node
past spire
ye seems like it
gleaming geyser
thats a huge bummer
past spire
that would be too much fun :p
gleaming geyser
that makes the leauge really shallow for me lol
so basically theres exactly one tree bis for every build
just search the best node on one tier and combine till you hit all on one item
dang
past spire
ye tahts it , but no idea which one is really bis to be honest
i guess double damage is really strong?
gleaming geyser
double damage is always nice if you can use it
im playing TR so probally gems lvl and attck speed for me
past spire
no idea if it works with ballista build, might need some help here does it works?
past spire
ty good night
kindred void
fuck this monster
past spire
what is the name of item to combine 2 crucible tree in a yellow item plz?
violet nymph
Do I level the skill tree that I want to merge before I forge the weapons together?
sullen cloud
Couldnt find an answer anywhere, are passives locked to one tier? For example +b...
If you check on the trade site, it says which level each mod is on.
sullen cloud
what is the name of item to combine 2 crucible tree in a yellow item plz?
Primeval Remnant is what you get out of a geode (usually) and it "contains a forge that can combine Crucible Passive Trees" (implicit)
past spire
ty a lot i will try this for the first time 🙂 hope i dont screw it up
my weapon have 3 skills but i would like to remove skills 1 and 2, so i have bought a weapon with 1 and 2 'enabled', i put the second weapon in the top slot and my equipped in the bottom slot? and it will randomly keep 1 or 2 or change both?
flat egret
yo is melee back in crucible?
shell wigeon
Melee never left, it’s just not optimal or meta, plenty of skills will get the job done
obsidian pelican
Even melee builds don't play melee.
shell wigeon
Glacial hammer says hello
sonic stirrup
i got one good earlier : but i dont know if it works for poisoned ground, or po...
It would work against poisoned ground, if that was a thing. It does work against poison in general, but you can only get poisoned from hits normally, so that's the only thing it'll help you against in practice. lol
sonic stirrup
no idea if it works with ballista build, might need some help here does it work...
should work so long as they're attacking with that weapon
wheat gulch
If I want the "firestorm and bladefall has the 15/25% chance to effect the same area" crucible mod
is there a way to selectively add this through "tree combining" or is the combination of two crucible trees completely random?
Meaning I need to go into a new crucible zone every time I dont hit iot
sweet pollen
hi, how to open the skill tree on a unique weapon?
i know that primeval remnant is needed, but i already ran 2 and there was no way to open the tree
pliant patrol
You need one with this mod:
Contains an extra Forge that can add a Crucible Passive Skill Tree to a Unique Item
sweet pollen
You need one with this mod:
```Contains an extra Forge that can add a Crucible P...
thank you ❤️
I can't find the mod on the trade
pure gazelle
azure oriole
so, why is igneous geode 15c right now? what does it give?
daring creek
jagged talon
Crafting: "Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill, with a 8 second Cooldown
Spells Triggers this way have 150% more cost" Message me in game - Paulm
wheat gulch
Anyone know how depth works for ilvl?
tawny pasture
Anyone know how depth works for ilvl?
?
same as any other content
depth have certain ilvl , white monster drop same ilvl blue drop +1 and rare +2
sullen cloud
hm apparently I need to find a good T3 mod to shoot for on my next combine
other than that, +1 socketed bow gems, +7% attack speed, +24% fire damage over time multi (-30% fire resist) looks pretty good
sullen cloud
so, why is igneous geode 15c right now? what does it give?
lets you fight ~4-5 league bosses and then you can smash items together (break top item on the bottom item) to merge their crucible trees
also a lot of items drop with 4-5 crucible skills already revealed
mostly seems to be the better skills too, but that could have been luck
lilac silo
how can i farm crucible points to upgrade my weapom easy?
the mobs coming out are way stronger than regular pbosses
elfin cliff
Barely holding and doing 100 nodes. And/or prayer.
vale lintel
Q: t5 crucible mods stack each other? for example rolling magma AoE
violet nymph
is this worse than lake?
native ether
Does anyone know if selecting a short path on crucible trees disables selecting more nodes (from a different direction) even if there are still points left?
For example from start point going into 1 point down which finishes there, is it still possible to progress in a second direction?
fast oxide
lake monsters dropped loot and in extremely rare cases, you could sell lakes for large profit. I'm 25hrs in and have gotten nothing from dozens of uses of the league mechanic besides a decent campaign weapon. Dunno how you could feel Kalandra was worse
Also, I see you Keru but I'm relatively new so hopefully a more knowledgeable vet will answer you soon
sullen cloud
how can i farm crucible points to upgrade my weapom easy?
I did a lot of fully charged white/yellow maps with EA. They're a bit tough but fine.
sullen cloud
Does anyone know if selecting a short path on crucible trees disables selecting ...
Correct. You can only progress through linked nodes.
if you're finding the mobs too tough, just watch the channeling indicators. Basically, stop as soon as they start merging and you'll get fewer magic/rare mobs
native ether
So selecting one path disables all others and cannot be chosen even if there are more points to use and first chosen path has ended right?
