1┃mirage-league

[zenith falcon]

You should play

[sonic stirrup]

oh and also secrets of suffering

Which I'm really starting to question

[zenith falcon]

Cwc cyclone cat build

[sonic stirrup]

As I feel like I can't afford the crit

[silent galleon]

I played a minion build because I have terrible hands which makes sure I don't have to use alot of buttons/click alot

[sonic stirrup]

And I'd probably just be better off with the keystone for more ele damage

That does limit options a lot

[zenith falcon]

Even better off playing cwc soulrend

[silent galleon]

I've played it before though

[zenith falcon]

Do it again

[silent galleon]

wait

no

soulrend is something else

What was I thinking of

soulwrest

I've done the cwc soulwrest

I don't have the cat mtx tho, so you're gonna have to sponsor me

[zenith falcon]

Substractem made a cwc cyclone soulrend video, you should check it out

Its a bit old

And its unfinished

But if you tinker w it and slap on a original sin its a good mapper xd

[silent galleon]

Yeah but I don't have original sin xd

[zenith falcon]

Whats ur budget rn

[silent galleon]

When I said a little bit of budget I did not mean 200div

I got 100div

Which is enough for exactly original sin? xD

[zenith falcon]

Make a 1h sanctum build

Its like 15 divs

[silent galleon]

Wym?

[zenith falcon]

For icicle miner

[silent galleon]

I mean I have my srs for sanctum

[zenith falcon]

Can it 0hit easily?

[silent galleon]

I don't know, I haven't tried before

[zenith falcon]

You should

[silent galleon]

It can offscreen most things though

[zenith falcon]

If u dont feel confident, carries are pretty chrap

Cheap

Wink wink hint hint

<---

[silent galleon]

lol

I need the no-hit relic first

[zenith falcon]

True

I got mine from my first lycia second fase

Got pretty lucky there

[silent galleon]

I think i'm on the third stage rn

[zenith falcon]

Captainlance9 made a full 0hit sanct walkthrough

Its a good video

[silent galleon]

good to know

[zenith falcon]

1hour ish but accurate timestamps at the bottom

[rich hare]

Is the coffer relic worth it at level 97+?

i pretty much gave up on leveling buti f this gives a decent chunk, i might consider trying for 98

[toxic olive]

there was a video os someone doing on 95 lvl 23k coins and it gave hime 5%

so I highly doubt

[coarse grove]

Boons and afflictions that increase monster damage: is this the normal damage, or damage to resolve? I think that I remember seeing "resolve damage" as a separate thing, but I'm not sure.

[barren crescent]

normal dmg

[zenith falcon]

This is more for early game

[silent galleon]

Wasn't there a cap on like 10k coins?

[faint ravine]

Early game, unique relic dropping from sanctums you can only get from running t13+ maps

Pick one.

By the time you run 24 t13s to drop it and then another 24 to convert it you are well in the 90s

[drowsy monolith]

searing exarch juiced maps got 20 chaos from pure drop alone

[wary isle]

Yeah sometimes they can just pile up quickly and you'll end up with maps where even if you exclude every other drop besides altar drops, you can end up with 10-20c, 5-10 orb of unmaking, some sextants etc

Think it's what helped contribute to the big divine price this league

[tall prism]

hello everyone, is there any witch build that i can go with 15 div and atleast to be able to farm t16 maps without dying ?

[errant gale]

you can do that on 90c

unfortunately i can't help with that

[tall prism]

how ...

[errant gale]

how can you not be able to do t16's and have 15 div available?

thats my question

[tall prism]

sanctum

[tidal schooner]

The two big pieces for Poison SRS are United in Dream and Covenant and that costs like, 3 div max?

[tall prism]

• i did harvest farm

[errant gale]

15 div is plenty to make a build that can do all non uber content

[digital wave]

Anyone here play builds that uses automatic flasks? what happens when you accidently get an affliction that drains your resolve per flask use

Just concede the run? if you don't have a way to get rid of it fast

[dense ruin]

Pretty much every build uses auto flasks

You unequip your flasks, or just grab a spare

Its not like you need your granite flask

All you care for is using quicksilver

[digital wave]

My build revolves around using a quicksilver flask to bring my mana cost down to 0 so I can spam forbidden rites

and my other flasks help me not die from FR, like Progenesis

[dense ruin]

If you’re heavily dependent on your flasks, then you already know the answer

[digital wave]

Yeah, pretty stupid affliction to randomly run into in the middle of my floor 4

[mortal yarrow]

@digital wave what i usually do is unequip all flasks but the absolute necessary one

it limits the amount i lose but it does put a timer on the run

[zenith falcon]

if ur running nohit this will kill you fyi

[mortal yarrow]

ye it counts as a hit

did 15 afflictions on my flasker and i got it as my 15th affliction just before lycia

[zenith falcon]

ive died to this before 😦

[digital wave]

My build specifically needs all flasks running at all times so yeah its just one of those afflictions I see and then just end the run

As one of my flasks needs to be running to make my main skill cost 0 mana

the other three keeping me from Forbidden Rites to kill myself

like in my current run, I was forced to get the "gain a random affliction if you gain an affliction", so at any moment my run can be bricked lol

[zenith falcon]

YES

YESS

ALRIGHT

[zenith falcon]

i realised this doesnt really matter as any 1 shot will kill me anyway

[zenith falcon]

she didnt do her second phase

even though i did t8 maps and then t16 for the final one

i triple checked my count

[tidal schooner]

It must have to be more than just the last map

[zenith falcon]

no

i think i know what happened

because ive done it correctly before

apparently

you cannot start your 4th floor on a t14

t16*

you have to do it as last room

i thought it averaged out

[tidal schooner]

so you did a t16 twice?

[zenith falcon]

no

i stored my floor 4

7 rooms t8

then i did my 8th map as t16 and started the run

this bricks it apparently

[tidal schooner]

I haven't done any room storage. What is the advantage to storing rooms, anyway?

[zenith falcon]

you can do them at once

[tidal schooner]

Just to do them all at once?

[zenith falcon]

yes

its annoying to do them 1 by one

and would increase my stress

even more

i have to farm a new relic now

idk if i have the strength

[hasty perch]

Doing them all at once is nice to swap auras or gear

I take grace determination for mapping and when I enter sanctum its malevolence haste time

Also I swap out bisco's amulet for a dps one

It helps a lot to phase stuff fastzr

[modern bridge]

I’m curious as to which will output more dps and the pros and cons of each regarding venom gyre and ek ignite

[novel monolith]

VG will be more dps

ek ignite single target is pretty dog shit without a lot of investment

and its squishy for the most part

[livid birch]

would increasing your item rarity stat make the dropped relics have more modifiers

even though they are all magic

[tawny pasture]

Nop

[livid birch]

damn

[quaint roost]

how to recover resolve

[hoary oasis]

Fountains

[barren crescent]

Relics

[hearty mason]

lmao

5 act campaign

[errant gale]

20c right there

[hybrid pelican]

Anyone wanna play with me. Lvl 36 witch

[coarse grove]

Do Sanctums work with parties?

[sonic stirrup]

Yes

[coarse grove]

Try in #1┃looking-for-group

[sonic stirrup]

All party members share the resolve bar

Anyone but the instance owner dying (not resolve loss) is fine

[coarse grove]

Whose sanctum is used? The party leader, or whoever interacts with it first?

[sonic stirrup]

The instance owner

Only the instance owner can open the sanctum

Ie, whoever opened the map

[coarse grove]

Hmmm. That doesn't sound very fun to me, but it does actually work.
This is probably not the league to get some friends to join me, as their first experience with PoE.

[sonic stirrup]

It's fine, but yeah the sanctum is not great for party play

[coarse grove]

How do I get more relics?

[sonic stirrup]

Play more sanctums

[coarse grove]

I mean when do they drop?

[sonic stirrup]

You can find them from the bosses, the merchant, and as a random drop from guards

[barren crescent]

most of mine came from boss drops

[coarse grove]

What specifically are the "guards?" The biggest/beefiest enemy in the non-boss rooms, or all of the mobs that attack you in there?

[sonic stirrup]

The ones labeled sanctum guard

[coarse grove]

Lol, I never look at the names, I'm always too busy trying to not get hit and run away to let my minions swarm them. Then they are off screen and I can't hover my cursor over them to check the name.

[sonic stirrup]

Not name, label. Aka tag. Aka in the list of monster modifiers.

Note that one of the room objectives is to kill all guards

[coarse grove]

Oh, where do I even see the objective? In the area modifiers when expanding the minimap?

[sonic stirrup]

In the quest tracker

[coarse grove]

So far I've almost always killed all the monsters anyway.

[sonic stirrup]

It's the most common room objective, I'd say

But it isn't all monsters

[sudden dirge]

the amount of times i died in the sanctum just because i forgot to properly set up my wardloop and killed myself...

[dense ruin]

It’s ok as long as you don’t do it in your sin run

[coarse grove]

What happens if I die in the sanctum, but I don't lose all my resolve?

[astral hound]

you die

sanctum run is done

[hoary hedge]

@Sanctum_spato Hi, I would like to buy your Blight Curio Large Cluster Jewel listed for 55 divine in Sanctum (stash tab "y1"; position: left 22, top 18)

[sonic stirrup]

🤨

[hoary hedge]

Try to contact the dude plx

[sonic stirrup]

what

[hoary hedge]

I think he is ignoring me or something

[sonic stirrup]

...

Then let him be

[hoary hedge]

i want the jewel ?

[sonic stirrup]

If he ignored you, he doesn't wanna hear from you

[hoary hedge]

he can hear from ya though

he aint ignoring me, he just doesnt react even though he aint afk tagged

[sonic stirrup]

If he isn't ignoring you, then he probably wouldn't listen to someone else asking either?

[hoary hedge]

Pls try, for my peace of heart.

[sonic stirrup]

I won't

Because there's a decent chance he is in fact ignoring you

And if he isn't, he's probably just busy, or afk with an autoclicker or something running

[hoary hedge]

How this conversation helped me?

The cat is still in the fucking box aint it ?

[sonic stirrup]

It didn't

I was curious if you accidentally pasted a message here instead of in-game

Which was why I initially replied

[hoary hedge]

The reason why you aint helping is making me lol rl.

Dude you kill me.

[sonic stirrup]

lol

[hoary hedge]

Moving on, thanks for the interesting monologue i just did.

[sonic stirrup]

Good luck

[hoary hedge]

Glad I cleared that part up.

Same!

[zenith falcon]

what is this fucking conversation i just read

[hoary hedge]

@sonic stirrup The cat is out of the bag, I got the jewel. I have to apologize, I thought this was my guild server thingie. Not a frequent discord user.

[sonic stirrup]

lmao

[late heart]

guys, which fun build would you recommend for ,,league start,, . I decided to return to POE and thinking which skill to take to slowly begin the grind 🙂

[errant gale]

caustic arrow, toxic rain, explosive arrow ballista ignite.

[queen sun]

5-way-hosting-ssc

[meager spruce]

Hi, does anyone know where I can find a reliable lab enchanting service?

[lone glade]

is anyone doing 5ways? I need to level

[dense ruin]

why do you think this is the place for 5 ways @queen sun @lone glade tft

@meager spruce tft aka the forbidden trove discord

[errant gale]

global 820 >>> the forbidden trove

[torn niche]

@dense ruin they may have gotten banned for being in the wrong discord or criticizing tft banning policy

[lone glade]

Nope, not banned. Just don’t use TFT enough to know that it’s be the place to be..?

Also TFT is overall a band aid fox to much a more annoying problem overall, but I don’t need the service anymore.

[chilly nexus]

Hello, i dont have the slot for the "sanctified relic", i try to check how to unlock it, i got at act3 and act7 and talk to Divina, but still no slot. I ended multiple sanctum but no sanctified relic drop. They dont drop because i havent the slot ? What should i do ?

[torn niche]

just run more sanctums, probably also need to be lvl 80+ zones

[chilly nexus]

Ok, will try more. But i run only T16 maps.

[torn niche]

how many sanctums?

[chilly nexus]

I full clear 3 sanctums, 2 was during getting the 115maps completion, so i may have get some maps with lower tiers. But i get a full cleared sanctum on only T16 and nothing, so i started to Ask if i had missed something...

[torn niche]

Did you kill ultimate form lycia? That's the only thing guaranteed to drop a sanctified relic. Otherwise theyre kinda rare I think

[chilly nexus]

I will try one again and kill ultimate form Lycia. Brb later

[zenith falcon]

Its getting deleted feb 30. Is what they announced. Now think about the date feb 30 and see if it looks familiar

[torn niche]

wait, what is getting deleted? and what is special about feb 30?

[zenith falcon]

Ah i thought you were referencing their "announcement"

Also look up feb 30 to know whats special about it

Youre in for a surprise

[torn niche]

ah, ok

[wary isle]

[split kestrel]

it took me a minute lmao

[neat summit]

lmao

[true lodge]

any idea how much is this?

[grizzled moon]

1c

[true lodge]

this ?

[lone glade]

Garbage

[errant gale]

imagine if it said "for all you minion players out there"

[slim talon]

damn i love kirac missions for ez sanctum and out

[wary isle]

Awwww, muffin. Are you gonna warcry about it

that is brutal tho

[uneven flicker]

Price check?

[zenith falcon]

No

[errant gale]

hold on i gotta check vendor prices real quick probably a few alch shards and a few alt shards

[vital meteor]

what a league its been, first time getting 38

prolly gonna get 40 cuz these last 2 are easy, just a tiny bit grindy

[lone glade]

What POB do people suggest for nimis fireball? Pals or just a Poe.ninja one? I can’t decide which would be better dps.

[proven creek]

Teamfight tactics is shutting down???

[zenith falcon]

Yes on feb 30

I'm gonna leave on the 29th tho

No point in sticking around

[eager charm]

Please check the date posted in that tft message

[jaunty isle]

the chances of it not being a "haha not a mageblood" joke are lower than the chances of u getting a gf

[smoky wind]

I wonder how many Crimson Temple's I've ran

[exotic forum]

nvm

I'd at least use a Heavy Belt unique and just "Well, it could be a Mageblood"

[errant gale]

thing is i don't think a chance can be negative

it can be very low or zero tho

[river sleet]

just need leap year ^ 2

[bitter pilot]

The emotional damage when your friend who you introduce to Poe

drops mage blood

with 4 flasks

:/

how to deal with it

[sonic stirrup]

Say gz

And help him use it properly

[astral hound]

^

this is the way

envy and jealousy isn't worth ruining your friendship

[dense ruin]

It’s not jealousy

It’s envy

[errant gale]

you are envious, you and nearby allies deal extra chaos damage

[violet nymph]

currently have max resolve of 1 this sanctum run

[sacred hill]

Why isn't ocultist srs more popular, I'm still using gear I found while leveling for my head rings boots and gloves from like level 30

And doing t16s

Necro seems like it would be slow as shit without the pops

[neat rover]

damage

free 30 resists too

[eager charm]

Also keep in mind that necro cause use flame/flesh to obtain pops

[livid birch]

not again

[edgy jay]

man this RF build feels useless now

[abstract pulsar]

does maximum resolve relics work in no-hit runs?

[devout osprey]

no. youre using a unique relic

unless youre just practicing

[warped warren]

@storm kelpola voce joga na stardart

[limber ruin]

hello i need help i need help im act 8 and i need to speedrun to act 10

[viral wyvern]

Hi someone can help me for up my atlas pls ?

[modest siren]

There is an "atlas tree planning" room, you may have better luck there.

[coarse grove]

What happens if I start a sanctum room and don't finish it? I just lost power.

[timber crown]

Pretty sure it either counts it as won or acts as if you never went there

[limber ruin]

hello i need help does someone can come in help 2 vocal

[sinful hazel]

praise be the leveling uniques

[zenith warren]

All the quicksilverflasks

[barren crescent]

Where thousand ribbonz

[narrow terrace]

I've never seen that one ring before, the colorful one in the middle of the groups

[grizzled moon]

its a replica item from heist

notice how the belt has a similar shimmer if you will

[narrow terrace]

I haven't really touched heist, and I missed every item since Synthesis

not item, League. my bad

ah, Replica Tsaliso

[limber ruin]

hey i need help can someone come in help room 1 pls

[hasty perch]

I stopped using the scepters lately

Like doedre's gloves + wands and kinetic bolt is so hilarious

You get like 250% attack damage on kb from them and then you just use twice the unique ironring from level 1 then swap to better flat damage rings at 20.
But lmp/volley KB is godly on leveling gear

[limber ruin]

hey i need help can someone come in help room 2

[eager charm]

Just ask your questions

[late lance]

so I just got my no hit relic, is the general consensus to run 31 T8's and 1 T16?

[thorn cloak]

could someone raise my and mine and my friend's level to the maximum level?

[tawny pasture]

you are new right ?

[thorn cloak]

I played last season.

I've been wanting to play but there's only 1 month left for the season to end and I hardly have time in the middle of the week.

Not to mention that I don't remember how almost anything in the game works.

[silent galleon]

How many divine orbs do you have

[sonic stirrup]

#trading

[silent galleon]

Oh I wasn't offering anything, was just curious since leveling to max costs quite a bit xD

[sonic stirrup]

I see

Honestly I got the impression they wanted it for free

[silent galleon]

Yeah same, that's why I asked

[ember coral]

does anyone know if an aura bot build is used as a league start or if normally people use a farm character and then build into it later

[tawny pasture]

its used in group play of people know what they are doing

[silent galleon]

Carry - Inquisitor Spark

• Solo Spark Build with a similar tree to duo spark
• Rush Atlas Progression
• Swap to Duo when gear is complete

Support - Scion Aurabot

• Pois Conc build league start
• Rush Heist at act 10
• Farm 20-30 divines to buy gear for duo setup

Here's how a friend of mine did it

[serene cargo]

I hate coming in at the end of the season lol, just switched over from console to pc and buying stuff this late is a nightmare

[errant gale]

unlike diablo 3 max level is no where near mandatory in PoE and boosts kinda don't really exist. highest item level requirement is 83 if i remember right and most builds can get around everything they'd want at like level 95

this is not a "you hit max now you get to play the game" game

[thorn cloak]

dalva

dalva

[flat fjord]

So. I've been away for a while after league start because of work and stuff.
I have a 92 exsang conversion miner and want to grind some challenges before end, but I dont want to burn myself out. Any ideas for some fun stuff I can do in the last few weeks (some build that is now cheap etc) I dknt have a lot of currency because I didn't play most league. I'm comfortably clearing T16s, have 3 voidstones and die occasionally to stupid stuff i bring onto myself.

[silent galleon]

what's not alot of currency? @flat fjord

[flat fjord]

A few div invested in the character.

Raw currency around 1-2 div
Liquid stuff i can flip that I farmed should be around 2 div as well. So not very much

[boreal vector]

im starting new is it worth doing the ruthless with gold league

[devout osprey]

if youre a new player please dont start that way

[acoustic pike]

I hated ruthless with gold

I frequently play ssfhc and trade league HC, but Ruthless is just too masochistic.

I can reach level 95 in the time I reached 82 in Ruthless

I had planned to push for 90 in Ruthless, but only got to 82 before realizing I despised the event.

[acoustic pike]

Only viable as a starter if you have a dedicated group IMO.

[mellow lion]

ruthless with gold is what you play if you want to experience 1 / 10th of a game that had no balancing done at all with it.

you will max out and probably not even have a full build made.

it was painful to play got to 75 and that was all I could stomach.

[acoustic pike]

Yeah, I really planned to push for 90, but couldn't stand the tedium.

That said, I actually liked the early game.

The bosses felt like bosses.

I had to dodge and deal with mechanics, etc.

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah I'm still only in acts, haven't played much

[acoustic pike]

Usually I just faceroll everything till red maps.

[sonic stirrup]

Been fun

[mellow lion]

that part is good but the game felt empty and i felt like there was no reward. love challenge hate doing something for no reason

[acoustic pike]

It was once I was in maps that I no longer enjoyed it.

[sonic stirrup]

At least you got a mystery box?

[mellow lion]

i hit 75 so maybe more

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah

[mellow lion]

70 to 75 was a slog though

[sonic stirrup]

Makes sense

[mellow lion]

just thinking about going higher and i was like hell no

[sonic stirrup]

Xp penalty kicks in at 68

I think

Not sure exactly how big it is

[acoustic pike]

I deleted at 82, and went back to Sanctum HC.

[sonic stirrup]

Deleted? Oh you ran hc?

Wait what

[mellow lion]

you get no credit if you delete

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah...

[acoustic pike]

Oh well

[sonic stirrup]

...

lol

[mellow lion]

rip

[acoustic pike]

How else do people retire?

Like on the ladder some names say retired.

[sonic stirrup]

No idea what you're talking about because I haven't looked at that

[acoustic pike]

I use the same name for all my characters. When they die they get deleted and I reroll with the same name.

[mellow lion]

the mtx give away needed character around for the end

[sonic stirrup]

The ladder for this event?

[acoustic pike]

Yeah

[sonic stirrup]

Dunno then

[acoustic pike]

Names say (retired) next to them

I assume those were deletes

[sonic stirrup]

Maybe they didn't care about the rewards

[acoustic pike]

It was only 10 winners for 90+ anyways odds are never high to win the raffles.

So if I needed to not delete, it's meh

[sonic stirrup]

That is, at the moment, almost a coinflip

[sonic stirrup]

Also no idea what you mean by the retired, I don't see any, or did I have to look further than top 200?

When I jumped to the very end I started seeing a bunch

So yeah, probably deletions then

First retired from the top is spot 375

[thorn locust]

Would anyone be willing to make 50 chaos by carrying me thru the hall of grandmasters map it my last one for atlas

[sonic stirrup]

It's not on the atlas... lol
Also, no trading.

It is not made to be fair to beat

So the only thing locked behind it

Is an achievement

[thorn locust]

Thank you

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

[acoustic pike]

Heh, I remember years ago

Some guy on global asked if that map was good to do.

I said it was easy and very rewarding.

A whois showed him in standard about 10 minutes later.

[sonic stirrup]

lmao rip that dude
Also. You're evil.

[sterile brook]

Retired means they converted out of the league, like if they converted from SSF to trade league

[acoustic pike]

It's a void league

You can't transfer out of it.

[sterile brook]

Well, that's what Retired means in a ladder, not sure about this specific case

[foggy tusk]

hello, is there any guild recruiting new players ?

[sonic stirrup]

#poe1-recruiting-guilds-archive

[foggy tusk]

ty!

[rapid anchor]

Hi all

[wise lintel]

hey comrades, i was thinking about creating a character and look how far i can get before the new league will start. i havent played this league so far and was wondering if you could recommend me something really fast. thanks

[grizzled moon]

pconc

cold dot

[smoky geyser]

#i was today years old when i found out about divina

[violet nymph]

Till act 6 I got empower 8 chaos orba and 6link maul with only white sockets. Ιts my luckiest run

[fleet vine]

anyone want to play hardcore with me?

[storm lily]

Anyone running doryanis map ?

[unreal obsidian]

I normally would volunteer but I gotta grind sanctum tonight to at least get some of the easy rewards goin

[hazy lion]

where are the voice chat rooms?

people don't play this game anymore?

[eager charm]

What do you mean? Scroll down the channel list

[unreal obsidian]

Nobody plays poe anymore dead game

👀

Gonna be running sanctum act 5 if anyone wants to join in a few hours

[sonic stirrup]

The game is plenty popular. I think most people voice chatting do it in smaller discord servers.

And also, the league is nearing its end, so many aren't playing atm.

Though there are two people in vc atm

Oh they just left lol

[tropic juniper]

I'm really conflicted about legues. Like why can't they just release new content? I'd like to play on Standard, but it seems pointless.

[sonic stirrup]

It's one of the ways that the game keeps player activity up.

I think most people enjoy the league system.

Standard is still poe, you just don't get challenges, the new league mechanic, nor as many players to trade with.

It's also how the game keeps the economy alive

It's how they keep the game fresh and exciting

[unreal obsidian]

I take all my league stuff to standard to theory craft here and there

But my stash is overwhelmed with league character stuff

[fair aspen]

I'm too afraid to see how many retrieval only stash tabs I have to ever look at a standard character

[covert ibex]

There's a radio button to hide remove-only tabs 🙂

just pretend they don't exist

[fair aspen]

lol

[fleet vine]

anyone playing a fresh hardcore

[autumn fulcrum]

Anyone experienced with challenges know if i could try 36/40 with a character that cannot beat Uber bosses ? https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Ayeto/challenges i quit the league just after i got my HH, got bored of farming

[lunar gorge]

Except for Definitive Deviation, Grinding Grand Goals and Punishing Pinacle Pressure (this one maybe you can get carried, I'm unsure), you can buy carries for the harder ones and complete the others yourself

[void kindle]

I did 38/40 without doing any uber content ever, you 100% can - the challenges are pretty chill, go for it imo

[last perch]

Wish there was a better reward, like in the past leagues

Like footsteps mtx or something

I'm quite happy with my sunprism and firstblood effect but I'd love some more free ones

Buying them just doesn't feel as good

[exotic wharf]

are the servers down?

[drifting thicket]

**Command:** !league

Description: Get information about a League of Legends summoner.
Cooldown: 5 seconds
Usage:
!league [region] [summoner name]
Example:
!league na chipped#000

[gloomy marten]

Any idea how long time is left of this league?

[grizzled moon]

roughly 12 days

[gloomy marten]

Thats not long

Buuu

[haughty pagoda]

when did the leauge start

[hoary oasis]

!leagues

[drifting thicket]

Temporary leagues typically last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

For details on what happens when a temporary league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

The Sanctum league and 3.20 Forbidden Sanctum expansion started:
PC - <t:1670612400:R> on <t:1670612400:F>
Console - <t:1671058800:R> on <t:1671058800:F>

The Crucible league will start:
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Console - <t:1681344000:R> on <t:1681344000:F>

This information was last updated on March 17th. The above should show in your local time if you have the right timezone set with your discord account.

[violet nymph]

is clearing simulacrum supposed to be almost impossible?

[bronze cave]

You need a relativly high level of build strength

people farm lvl 30 simulacrums all the time

[violet nymph]

im playing srs

and im getting slapped

[bronze cave]

you can put "poe 3.20 srs simulacrum" into youtube to get an idea of how srs builds look that clear wave 30

[signal frigate]

crucible league best league?

[storm lily]

Anyone can help uber elder ?

[solid panther]

can somebody help me to fix my challange ?

[devout osprey]

can u show full atlas?

[tawny pasture]

show the whole atlas if you want help ...

[devout osprey]

did u try /recheck_achievements? or relog

[solid panther]

ty the recheck did it

[coarse grove]

is Sanctum going to close at the Crucible stream?

Or will it last a little longer into the gap between the stream and release?

[devout osprey]

gonna end like 3-5th of april

around there

[coarse grove]

oh sweet. I still have time to get to touch post-campaign stuff slightly

thanks

[exotic wharf]

april 4th im pretty sure

3 day gap then crucible

[pulsar dust]

is

there a chat for hc sanctum>

[violet nymph]

can someone help me out with completing a simulacrum? you can have all the loot

[hollow mason]

What are some of the strongest builds people use atm?

[past spire]

what is end of the floor? i completed the minimap and took the bonus but i got nothing? what is a floor compared to finishing a sanctum?

[sonic stirrup]

8 rooms is a floor

They end with a boss fight

[past spire]

ok thx, prlbmem ,my sanctum doenst have 8 rooms i think

[sonic stirrup]

Open the sanctum map and you'll see.
You get 1 room per instance, which you can run when you find it, or save for later (you can have up to 8 stored)

[past spire]

how do i open sanctum map in my hideout? @sonic stirrup

i have 7 rooms + 1 boss room so in that case , it ssimilar if i take 'end of room' and end of sanctum right? 😄

[bronze cave]

That map is 1 floor. The sanctum consists of 4 of these floors.

So for end of floor, do the 7 rooms and kill the boss. For end of sanctum, do that 4 times

If you are on floor 4 already, then end of floor and end of sanctum is the same

[past spire]

wait so i will never get the bonus 'end of floor' then if i need to do 500 rooms for it

[sonic stirrup]

You've done 4 rooms

You need to do 4 more to finish the floor, because floors have 8 rooms

[past spire]

ahh ok

thx !

[sonic stirrup]

You're welcome

Sanctums are 4 floors

[violet nymph]

how hard is doryanis machinarium

is it easy to die in it?

[grizzled moon]

super ez

[ashen lichen]

this league is basically that roguelike game spire something uhh

slay the spire

[eager charm]

Not really as sts is based on the deck you use more so

It’s more like hades if you’re familiar with that

[viscid locust]

what is the sanctum league?

[honest egret]

its the current league that ends in a week

it adds a rogelike encounter to every zonethat will go away once the league ends

[tardy spear]

Goodbye sanctum mechanic you won't be missed

[narrow terrace]

Can't argue with that. Hated this league mechanic

[bronze cave]

I liked the idea, but the execution was just poor in my opinion

[hoary oasis]

Why poor execution, what's wrong with it?

[bronze cave]

The resolve system heavily favoured some build types over others

Personally, I don't like untradeable items

And I had to either choose between doing 1 room per map, which felt bad gameflow wise or playing 8 maps of standard league to play a floor

[violet nymph]

Guys is it Worth it so Start now?

To*

[hoary oasis]

Isn't that the case with any content? Metamorph, Legion etc. - they all favour specific builds

[honest egret]

its probably impossible to come up with a league mechanic that will bef ine for all build types

[honest egret]

with intention of serious progress? not really
with intention of checking the game out before serious next league start? sure

[violet nymph]

Someone Maybe Wants to help me a Little Bit?

On PlayStation 4

[bronze cave]

Yeah, but it was much more extreme in sanctum, since resolve existed. If you think about abyss for example, it doesnt really matter that much if you deal a bit more damage or if you are a bit tankier. It doesnt matter that much if you are close range or long range for the mechanic.
In sanctum, being a bit more tanky did nothing to help you with the mechanic, and being close range made it a lot more difficult than putting a totem down and hiding

Basically every league mechanic favours fast, high dps builds that clear the screen, but being a bit less optimal doesnt usually hurt you that much

[hoary oasis]

I totally get it that Sanctum needs both high damage and being able to dodge. I find it more challenging than some other league mechanics

[bronze cave]

Yeah, but playing a melee build and playing a totem build feels like night and day in sanctum

While for other league mechanics, the difference isnt that big

[hoary oasis]

I always struggled with melee, no matter what league mechanic

Metamorph as melee? No thanks ^_^

[bronze cave]

Yeah, because melee is inherently more "dangerous" to play by design of the regular game. So if the league mechanic does something extra that puts you in a disadvantage (like a non replenishable resource like resolve), it feels extra bad

Melee in the base game works, because there are ways to offset the dangers of melee by getting tankier, getting leech and whatnot

All of that doesnt do anything in sanctum

[hoary oasis]

I see

[bronze cave]

I believe they tried to solve this issue by having resolve attacks deal less resolve damage if you were close to it

[narrow terrace]

I'm better at surviving damage than I am just not getting hit

So resolve mechanic is awful to me

[violet nymph]

what 3 things are easiest for the grind challenge

i am done with lvl 100

[thorn shard]

whens wipe?

[timber crown]

If youre talking about migration to standard then usually a week or two prior to the leauge

[tawny pasture]

3 days before

League end on 4th new start on 7th

[strong patio]

thats correct, but it was still super easy to beat the sanctum with almost any char

enemies have long ass coreographys before they do any attack, so much so that you dont even need to see what they do, you just attack and after like half a second dash away

if you couldnt do the sanctum it was not because it was not balanced or something like that, any char with at least 1M damage can do it easily

the only "tricky" part are the 2 last bosses and one of the mini bosses

and the fact that you cant just ignore attacks is not a flawed design, is something made to reward people who are good at the game

or who have enough dps to not let enemies attack

which is basically every uber boss ever

[exotic forum]

it favored indirect / safe methods of clearing enemies. Bit brutal for melee

[dense kernel]

anyone running pure or flawless breachstones? need carry for last challange

[violet grove]

need carry?

[fathom schooner]

question, does a MF TS with an aurabot can do endgame content or I might be better with a CoC or omni TS for that matter ?

[trail viper]

"a powerlevel that we've never seen before" - chris wilson
is he capping

[bitter fulcrum]

I know the league is over, but why did GGG not make this challenge 'obtain' rather than 'complete a floor with'
I've had this shard many times but it's basically impossible to complete a floor with it.

[solemn reef]

Do we know if all the enemies spawn at once or if they are staggered spawns when you interact with the league mechanic?

[dull pewter]

Is srs minions dead?

[rose mulch]

can we get a clarification if the proc from the lvl 20 trigger bots from the remade saboteur ascendacy node counts counts as your proc?

[full basin]

why reddit is now flowing in posts from crying kids about how bad game is, how big nerfs GGG made, yadayadayada
such a bulshit

[minor olive]

Tbh I'm usually the Reddit doomer. There's some shit in the wrapping paper still this time, but I like the present still

[north crow]

Working so didn't get a chance to watch Q&A did they say if weapons all have the same tree? or is it random?

[sonic stirrup]

You can still watch it if you want, just fyi

[north crow]

plan to when i get home

[sonic stirrup]

I got the impression that all weapon trees are randomly generated

Didn't have to listen to the q&a for that though

I think

They did talk about that finding good trees might spike up prices of certain uniques

especially what with being able to spend them to combine trees of two copies of one

[north crow]

Hmm.. so we'll probably have to roll a bunch to find one for our build then

[proven spire]

where should i be looking for league starter build discussion for crucible

[narrow terrace]

I'll admit, that "take 10% of physical as chaos" makes me wanna run an incandescent Ci again

but no health to reserve with the reservation nerfs sounds like a bad idea

[sonic stirrup]

I'm already planning on running IH, and was on the edge for CI

That tipped it in favour

[narrow terrace]

I'll probably have to run Charisma if i wanted to do that

oh man, especially

bonuses on that would be huge for IH

[sonic stirrup]

Main issue with that is if you want to run some unique gloves, helmet, or boots, that doesn't have the split armour es base

Which I think I will

I'm tempted to run Eber's Unification, though honestly I'm not entirely sure if it's worth it

gonna runa rainbow conversion into chaos build

[narrow terrace]

not going to even pretnd i know what that means

[sonic stirrup]

it's not really a term

You know how #%ele as chaos works?

[narrow terrace]

yeh

[sonic stirrup]

I'm just making full use of that

By converting from lightning to 96% cold to 50% fire

So I basically get like 2.5 of my base lightning counted for the added chaos

so that 20% ele as chaos mod will basically be worth 50% of my base lightning added as chaos

make sense?

[narrow terrace]

is IH 20 or 25?

[sonic stirrup]

10-20

the 25 is damage taken as

10-20 is the added damage

[narrow terrace]

yeah, i had forgotten about the added damage part

[sonic stirrup]

Yeah it isn't something you have to consider

IH is worth it even without that sometimes

[ancient zinc]

err,,, if i understood correctly each weapon is going to have an rng-based crucible tree like timeless jewels?

[sonic stirrup]

And it's not something that makes a significant impact in all builds

[sonic stirrup]

I absolutely would not call it: like timeless jewels, but yes. All weaposn get their own mini tree

Or rather

Get the ability to have one exist on it

They don't drop with trees

They only get trees after first running some crucible encounters with it

[ancient zinc]

yeah but that sounds like a timeless jewel situation potentially

[sonic stirrup]

Not at all, imo

Because what makes Timeless jewels special is that they have a seed that decides the randomness

they also don't give you anything new, they just modify your passive tree

If anything, Cluster Jewels, or Anointing, are more similar. Cluster Jewels in that you're adding a new tree, although random, and you can't really change it.
Anointing in that it's just basically added notables on the item

Well, that said though

Nothing is quite like it

Which is the point

It's a new mechanic

[narrow terrace]

it's overall a pretty new mechanic

"This is your enchanted D&D weapon that gives you special abilities"

"but it's rando af lol"

Sounds better than Sanctum, for sure. I hated that

[ancient zinc]

i'm in the process of reading the patch notes i just hope its not a situation where you're more reliant on self crafting if you want to chase crucible stuff (since that means you can't just use any rares you find in trade)

[sonic stirrup]

You can filter for the trees

You can also half reroll by combining trees

[ancient zinc]

ah so you're bad trees can be modified then

[narrow terrace]

I think it said that allotted passives in a fusion are more likely to show up

[sonic stirrup]

it's like recombinators

If you played with them

[sonic stirrup]

yes

[narrow terrace]

i legit don't know what those are, must be an older mechanic

[sonic stirrup]

sentinel league

[narrow terrace]

was that after Synthesis, and did they keep it?

[sonic stirrup]

It wasn't kept

[narrow terrace]

i missed it, then

this my first league since 2019

[sonic stirrup]

Sentinel, Kalandra, Sanctum, Crucible

[narrow terrace]

I'm sure there were more besides that

[ancient zinc]

time to see if beastcrafting can break the new league mechanic lol..

[sonic stirrup]

a few

[sonic stirrup]

I was just counting for how long ago it was

In other words, it was the league before the league before sanctum

[narrow terrace]

ah, i wasnt paying attention

[sonic stirrup]

Well, I didn't say I was counting

[narrow terrace]

anyways

pretty much gotta throw my current build out the window and start over

I'm curious about vaal firestorm

[sonic stirrup]

that's not very uncommon when you make a build before patch notes lel

[thorny pond]

sames

[stark pewter]

Onslaught League. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

[solemn reef]

I really hope we will have a way to check the passive tree on each weapon we find quickly and easily. Otherwise it's going to be awful having to carry a million weapons and constantly swapping them whenever we encounter the league mechanic.

[thorny pond]

Any ideas on manaforged arrows?

[queen oyster]

If it counts cumulative mana spend on other bow attacks, could pairing it with other sources of triggered bow attacks be worth it (to speed things up)?

[thorny pond]

When I first read it I thought it was basically archmage support but for bows.

But my eyes deceived me and it’s just another way to trigger. I’m curious on some ideas for it though.

[queen oyster]

It does the archmage thing too

Manaforged Arrows:

• Supports bow attack skills, causing them to trigger when you've spent an amount of total mana on other bow attacks based on the supported skill's mana cost.
• Supported skills deal more damage based on their mana cost.
  (Cannot modify the skills of minions.)

Another tack would be indigon + battlemage's cry + mana leech

[thorny pond]

Oh it does!

Indigon is definitely interesting

[queen oyster]

There's a shield with 'warcries have max power', so you could do something silly with weapon swap -> warcry -> weapon swap -> fight for the buff duration
Redblade Banner, that's it

[hollow sigil]

Does Mirage Archer snapshot?

I guess it's separate so it wouldn't benefit from the extra damage on the trigger

[queen oyster]

Wiki says it's a distinct entity; e.g. it doesn't benefit from charges
I dunno

[short canopy]

Can we put quiver into crucible?

[jagged marsh]

new minions nodes / mastery?

[hollow sigil]

No, they just replaced a lot of useful masteries with more questionable options

[autumn kayak]

No, only weapons and shields

Bow is considered to be two handed and so the passives will be the two handed version

[thin gale]

What do you think, which league starter would be the best?

[lucid monolith]

Does Crucible drop any rewards once you clear it or is just new trees xp as rewards.

[tawdry plover]

We don't know but there is a crucible related map they can drop

[pearl geyser]

wonder if 2h melee weapons nets totem nodes ? sick for warchief totem

[balmy moss]

do you think the league mechanic alone has the potential to make the melee great again if just for the league?

[dense ruin]

No

[balmy moss]

anyone have ideas for known strong builds that will be benefiting from the league mechanic?

[tiny sandal]

probably a build that uses weapons

I'm personally looking at SST, to see how strong of a cructree you can get on a weapon that you're not swinging

[prisma bloom]

Hey, will there be a new league coming with crucible at april 7th?

"The release date of PoE 3.21(Name: Crucible) is April 7, 2023"

[tiny sandal]

huh

crucible... is the new league

did you see the name of the channel

[prisma bloom]

oh, lol

[pearl geyser]

one can watch the live stream on twitch, etc

[narrow terrace]

One week huh. Reeee

[torn isle]

I'm more of hoping crucible is less "stat stick" and more "alter weapon with new quirks that isn't just apply support gem to linked skills"

[narrow terrace]

I didn't see many examples. One was longer freeze duration on enemies, but also on you.

[torn isle]

And that is more of a global "statstick" effect.

[narrow terrace]

We'll just have to wait a week I suppose

Unless they keep dropping teasers along the way

They might have revealed more during QA but I doubt it, I didn't sit down to watch that

[torn isle]

Checking, from what I hear inquis had consecrated ground increased effect removed last league, but now there is a half-strong version in passive tree, is that right?

[narrow terrace]

From what I saw, a passive was reworked to add consecrated ground buff, yeah

Forget original effect

Yeah, devotion

No longer provides 5% increase to non curse auras

25% increased effect of consecrated ground you create

[jovial hound]

woof reddit is not happy today

i cant wait to try this new stuff out

[north pier]

well they could act little bit strategically, since d4 is coming it is super important to make people happy even the exceptation from people is not suit with what company want to do

blizzard will buff one build hard every season and make random people happy, because their game is trash but their strategies to keep people in game is still working

making leveling hard is very boring thou, there are 99999 millions things to do, why we need to spend time for campaign

[jovial hound]

they didnt make leveling hard

ive been playing for years, never used any of the things they changed for leveling and i get to maps just fine in the first day every league

[barren crescent]

the vendor recipe change is not that big

[torn isle]

the consecrated ground increased effect is weaker than the original though, and while available to all classes, really only works extremely well with either inquis or holy flame totem builds

[barren crescent]

you just now do %spell dmg craft instead

[slender relic]

the wand changes are a buff for me

I never bothered crafting wands

[jovial hound]

or just pick up random garbage on the ground as you go

[barren crescent]

the lvl 20 wand crafts were silly

cus it was literally tripled dmg

[torn isle]

@half fog: yes, and maybe on the new sceptres which comes with flat added spell damage anyway.

[barren crescent]

compared to not having em

scepters also got the implicit change?

I thought it was just wands

[slender relic]

Only wands afaik

[jovial hound]

only wands

[slender relic]

Or at least they only mentioned wands

[barren crescent]

Templar speedrunning got shafted hard lmao

[torn isle]

or maybe I misread. :

[barren crescent]

leapslam gone

[jovial hound]

good now everyone plays inefficiently like me

[toxic olive]

I have never had issues with leveling

[torn isle]

yeah, got mixed up, but I meant putting on the new weapons with flat damage bonuses.

[toxic olive]

at worst I would just randomly die after t4 maps but thats if my build sucks cock

[torn isle]

also yeaf, gonna miss the speedy slams.

[toxic olive]

and I have pepega hands

[jovial hound]

well you get faster attacks earlier now

[torn isle]

though considering switching to juggs anyway for RF.

Faster attacks with the new slower sceptres is still slower than og.

[jovial hound]

rf jugg was my favorite build for sanctum eventhough it sucked in sanctum

[toxic olive]

Last time I played rf it was when rf berserk was the best option for it

[torn isle]

The new sources of max res and armour against chaos damage is gonna be nice probably. :v

[jovial hound]

for sure

[torn isle]

losing fire multi is gonna suck for RF though. :V

[jovial hound]

see i didnt even use those masteries

i had cluster jewels all over the place

[torn isle]

separately, does the "Damaging Ailments cannot be inflicted on you while you already have one, Non-Damaging Ailments cannot be inflicted on you while you already have one" mean you can't get mroe than 1 poison or corrupting blood or bleed stack?

[versed warren]

has there been any information on if you can craft on items after revealing the skill tree?

[jovial hound]

corrupting blood sint a damaging ailment i think

isnt it classified as something else? i might be wrong

[torn isle]

ah, it's just a debuff.

but still, does it apply for poison and bleed stacks?

[jovial hound]

im not sure

in my head you should be able to get more stacks but not new ailments

[torn isle]

though I imagine it's even better for self chill/ignite builds anyway.

[jovial hound]

do bleeds stack? i thought it just replaced it with a higher one

[torn isle]

they might depending on whether the source has the stacking bleed thing, but I guess that doesn't apply.

[jovial hound]

well i guess they stack with crimson dance

im really looking forward to this league, i think this is going to be real fun

[slender relic]

THat mastery is kinda wierd for selfchill though

[torn isle]

also wonders how good ascendant would be for spellslinger now that it gets 15% increased cooldown recovery (I guess technically saboteur gets a better cooldown recovery, but I figure ascendant has better passives for spellslinger)

[slender relic]

It should mean you can't refresh your own chill

And you get some amount of downtime on the chill

[violet nymph]

i liked this league thing👍

i will play untill league end

[timid sonnet]

No wand craft slower arma beans leveling 😦

[torn isle]

arma beans?

(though low level RF is now an option with the high flat hp regen and new sources of max res)

[pearl geyser]

still got this craft > Dagger/Sceptre/Staff/Wand
Magic/Rare/Unique Chain Belt + Blacksmith's Whetstone

[cursive flame]

what’s everyone league starting as fellas

[torn isle]

RF juggernaut here.

[echo bluff]

^meta

[jovial hound]

rf jugg also

[torn isle]

dunno if it's still meta, since RF always had damage issues, especially for juggs which sacrifices damage for even mroe tankiness, and the loss of fire multi hurting it more (though it does get even tankier)

[jovial hound]

second league in a row

[echo bluff]

RF is gonna be the main starter for many due to the ease of starting at a solid 3m damage by end of campaign

[cursive flame]

also the crucible stuff has some pretty high damage potential

[echo bluff]

And you can run it from level 16

[jovial hound]

being able to get weapon and shield trees seems cool

[quaint spade]

3m dps at end of campaign as rf?? What

[toxic olive]

how do you get 3m damage on starter after a10

[jovial hound]

not with jugg haha

[echo bluff]

Just need multi and flat fire

[sterile fulcrum]

mepps is trolling ignore him

[quaint spade]

Ok you dont know what you're talking about

[toxic olive]

"just need" so its not really a starter

[echo bluff]

Okay, you do you

[cursive flame]

But yeah started RF this league thinking about something different this one

[jovial hound]

you are maybe 400k dps at end of campaign

[cursive flame]

just not sure what

[jovial hound]

and thats being generous

[toxic olive]

cf+reap is a good option

its not really big dps but its super solid clearing combo

[jovial hound]

400k rf dps is enough for red maps also

because im garbage and that was my dps last league

[toxic olive]

I mean you can do eater and exarch with 400k dps

it would be a chore but its doable

[jovial hound]

yeah, i did

[toxic olive]

I did exarch and eater on cf+exsanguinate on practically no gear and it wasnt bad

[jovial hound]

but with 400k dps, you are just about unkillable too

i had like 88 max ele res, 75 chaos

i think i was north of 3k life regen

[cursive flame]

looks like oriath’s on steroids

[toxic olive]

looks like what?

pardon me I dont get what you said

[cursive flame]

the flask

[toxic olive]

well I did that build 2 times as league starter and I was able to clear all non ubers with it

[austere whale]

Is this the first league where an archetype (hollow palm) is entirely incompatible with the league mechanic?

[torn isle]

Yes for juggs, not quite for inquis which is somewhat less tanky.

technically there is a unique helm which can also get the crucible skill trees, but still. :b

[pearl geyser]

for shield ones lol

[torn isle]

hollow palm also doesn't allow shields. 😛

/me wonders how all these crucible stuff is gonna work with trading anyway.

[austere whale]

trade is gonna be a shitshow

[sonic stirrup]

?
It just won't get any benefit from it. You can still run it, and upgrade weapons in secondary slots.

Imo Crucible is more build permitting than Sanctum

[torn isle]

build permitting, but also RNG hell. 😛

[tiny sandal]

how do we know it's build permitting

[torn isle]

also, I'd think crucible would actually be kept for future leagues somehow, since players would still need some way to actually view crucible trees post-league.

[sonic stirrup]

There's no bar included that goes brr and yeets you if you take some hits.

Crucible will literally give stats to all builds except Hollow Palm.
And even Hollow Palm can still farm Crucible encounters.

[torn isle]

Because we've seen some of the passives which enables builds, like "All damage from hits with freezing pulse and Eye of Winter can poison. 15% chance for poisons inflicted with Freezing Pulse and Eye of Winter to deal 100% more damage"

[sonic stirrup]

Well, I didn't say build enabling

But it is also build enabling

I said more build permitting, as in: permits the use of a greater variety of builds

While Sanctum league was overall nice, stuff like self cast channeling really suffered, unless it ran freeze specifically.

And also melee suffered quite a bit

And also in general self cast that didn't run freeze

While totems, minions, and so, basically got sanctums free

[torn isle]

we also don't know how much more difficult the "ramped up" crucible fights would be, other than the claim that it's easily possible to ramp up to it being overwhelming.

[sonic stirrup]

Literally doesn't matter

Because you choose how much you want to ramp it up

[torn isle]

just noticed the example given for atlas map gateway is terrible and actually costs more than just pathing directly. :P

the example used 6 points to access a side node that would've costed 5 points if pathed directly. :V

[viscid dagger]

What are your guys' opinions on crucible?

I'm a noob who's going to return to the game, wondering if it's a good time

[grizzled moon]

it should be just fine for new players

[viscid dagger]

is melee still as bad as it was a few leagues ago?

[torn isle]

what's the last league you played?

[viscid dagger]

archnemesis, but I hated it and quit day 2

I started playing back in legion and that league was super fun

[floral mirage]

its a good time since Sanctum. in kalandra loot got stealth nerfed

melee still bad tho

[torn isle]

Main loot in crucible are basic weapons / shields and what fancy-weird skill trees they may have.

[violet nymph]

Crafting leagues tend to be better for slower players
And the league mechanic is adding skills to your weapons so there’s power creep. Atleast that’s what I think. So I’m really looking forward to it

Everyday… I miss max block champion

[floral mirage]

im just happy its another spawn monster and circle around league

[torn isle]

there WILL be power creep. Practically everything we lost in the skill tree can be found in the crucible, and much more.

[violet nymph]

Circle ⭕️

[viscid dagger]

that's fine

I am just hoping the economy will be fine for the casual players

[torn isle]

Probably not. But also probably it shouldn't matter too much with how much potential power every weapon may have now.

[floral mirage]

it was very very easy to make currency this league with harvest, 0 investment, any player can make few divines easily

[viscid dagger]

I guess we'll have to wait and see

Divines were 20c before, no?

Not that much

[floral mirage]

and this you can farm essence

harvest is pretty much guaranteed 50c

[torn isle]

you could always farm essence if you specced for it, no need of map mods for that. :x

[floral mirage]

so its always net profit

[viscid dagger]

Sweet

I just used to run juiced red maps

Worked pretty well

[floral mirage]

not sure how the price going to be tho since im sure a lot of people gonna farm it, but it does have a really good sink

[torn isle]

seriously though not sure what I'd run this league. Probably abyss, essence, harvest, not sure what else. Maybe expedition..?

[viscid dagger]

any thoughts on what will be the best builds for a returning player?

[torn isle]

Can't go wrong with RF, but that's just RF for ya. :p

[floral mirage]

theres pinned league start recommendation on path of exile build subreddit

[viscid dagger]

Will check the thread, thank you

[floral mirage]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/zbsyu5/320_sanctum_league_start_build_index/

[floral mirage]

can you can sustain it earlier with fire mastery regen

ring + ring + purity + purity (?)

[floral mirage]

just make sure the build isnt nerfed

[torn isle]

A LOT earlier now with flat 50 life regen in recovery mastery.

also there's new max res masteries in armour and reservation masteries.

[viscid dagger]

Is the thread getting updated with the league start?

[torn isle]

the RF thread, or the starter builds thread?

[viscid dagger]

The starter builds one!

[floral mirage]

not yet i think since the patch were just less than 24h ago

[viscid dagger]

Yeah, I saw that, the patch seems fun!

It looked a lot like legion, from what I saw

[floral mirage]

theres still a week left, just wait for content creator's league start vids

[viscid dagger]

Yeah, plenty of time to choose a starter still.

[torn isle]

also wait for more indepth changes to skills and such.

[floral mirage]

highly recommend PF tho, MB at home!

[torn isle]

Pathfinder? I don't think content creators have come to a consensus on whether the changes are good or bad.

[floral mirage]

i personally think it doesnt matter much for a league starter, its enough to get all void stone etc, and make 2nd char, ive done ubers with it i think losing few mils arent an issue (if its actually a nerf)

[viscid dagger]

I hate leveling tho, I'd rather have a good starter to begin with

[floral mirage]

i just really like the wither ascendancy, i already have 4 button build with Terror jewel, i wouldve played 5 button to trigger withering mirage, so its a massive QoL for me

[floral mirage]

toxic rain + ballista totem support + quill rain

[viscid dagger]

Might try it, I think I did toxic rain once

[floral mirage]

its good even with 2 link, tried it on ruthless gold

[pearl geyser]

league starting with cold crit spell totems here, fb + crafted wand recipes for spell damage %

[torn isle]

assuming you find a low level quill rain. :X

[grizzled moon]

The Vendor Recipe granting flat Elemental Damage to Spells no longer exists

[floral mirage]

i think theres plenty this league start

[torn isle]

In ruthless?

[floral mirage]

ofc not why would i play ruthless lol

what i mean TR works fine even in 2 link

so 4 link and gear are more than enough

[north pier]

which build do you recommend for ssf 3.21

[balmy moss]

EA ballista elementalist untouched? Any other totem ideas looking good? Would love to try something without delayed dps

[torn isle]

Can't go wrong with RF, again, but that's just RF. :v

[crimson basin]

i still have not much clue what build i will wanna play but considering how the encounter is very like legion like would a nova skill potentially slap?

i dont know how it was built back then but in legion it was just click legion press the nova boom button and repeat

[sterile osprey]

As an rf player what build could I do that isn’t rf but brings me to the same level maybe even further

[floral mirage]

same level? you mean play style? bcs a lot of build are prolly above RF in terms of dmg

[sonic stirrup]

Or you mean tankiness?

[sterile osprey]

Yes tankiness mb didn’t phrase that correctly

[sage timber]

Did anyone have a confirmation if United in Dream will get minion mods? Since Chris said each weapon type will get according passive trees and United in Dream is a Cutlass (which is one handed sword) it would be so bad if it got mostly melee tree

[grizzled moon]

yeah i wouldnt count on it

[floral mirage]

a pretty popular one is EA Ballista Champion

SRS Necro/Guardian, Boneshatter Jug

[echo solar]

I'd be curious if staves and daggers get different mods for base types

Since rune daggers even though things like white wind exist are for spells

[sonic stirrup]

They definitely will, if you mean crucible trees

Because staves are 2 handed

Not sure if rune daggers and sceptres will be different, but probably

I got the impression that Minion wands and other Wands will differ, for example

[halcyon oak]

anyone has any idea when pob 3.21 is coming out?

[sonic stirrup]

Oh wait pob

misread

[steep forge]

what bow builds looking good for crucible

[lean heath]

None, Diablo 4 best ( Tornado Shot goes nuts with every extra proj so TS is looking p juicy)

[signal frigate]

are 2 weapons better with crucible than 1 weapon cause 2 trees?

[sonic stirrup]

They talked about treating bows as 2 handers, so I'm under the impression that like regular mods, crucible trees will be more powerful on average on 2 handers

[steady hamlet]

Trees will be about twice as powerful on two handers than on one handees

In the Q&A at the end Chris Wilson gave this info

[devout osprey]

can u reset a weapons tree?

[sonic stirrup]

I think the best you can do is merge it with another

But things aren't exactly fully revealed with all options that may or may not exist

[devout osprey]

so if i have endgame weapon, i gotta hope it got the tree i want or keep reforging with another item?

[sonic stirrup]

They did talk about how prices of unique weapons might spike to people using them to combine trees

[violet comet]

Does anyone know if the crucible works on corrupted weapons/uniques?

[sonic stirrup]

They did say that it'd be possible to use the crucible on corrupted items, but only special crucible encounters

and they said and showed off a unique with a crucible tree

You have 4 days to finish it

Can you do that?

Hell no I'd say then

The only thing you're in a hurry to consider buying is the sanctum supporter packs, if you want those

Kirac's pass for sanctum is not a consideration

If you've been on a 5 year hiatus, you might struggle reaching maps in 4 days

let alone doing enough maps

Well, I checked the page and can't find the quote that says that you can't earn the rewards later on, but I'm 99% sure you lose the stuff you didn't earn in the season

You need to somehow run 45 maps

Also, you can buy it after earning unlocking the stuff

So if you really want to try

You can rush into sanctum, try your hardest to rush through acts and into maps

I wouldn't recommend it, though

Yeah and 70-75 is lowballing it for 45 map clears

To clarify, it's not an item. it's a skin you can apply to a specific item.

[austere whale]

Wont it feel super shit to have your big wep upgrade but not be able to use it till the exp catches up to your current one?

[echo dove]

Not sure, but there will definitely be a sense of anticipation generated

[austere whale]

Thats not the word Id use xd

More like disappointment

[brisk orbit]

anyone seen anything regarding which gems will be available as quest rewards in Ruthless?

[steady hamlet]

Well weapons are the least valuable uniques in game

Not a bad design decision to give uniques weapons something new to look for

Well you can just play and see if you can do it, theres no need to buy the pass right away, can also to do so when you realize "oh i did manage to complete it"

[swift canyon]

What builds are you guys doing?

[livid gorge]

jugg boneshatter lol

[thorny pond]

Is PoB updated?

[devout osprey]

not yet

[thorny pond]

I'm thinking of league starting a Bow league start

Not sure what to do yet.

Manaforged arrow seems cool

[thorny pond]

Can someone explain Triggerbots with from the new Sab node?

[rustic isle]

Has anyone confirmed / denied whether the 15% life mastery works with brass dome

[lucid monolith]

patch is not live

[violet nymph]

guys what happened to spark?

[junior cobalt]

you guys also a lil bit mad or frustrated about the new coming nerfs league?

its been years now and still melee skills/builds are garbage

[woven compass]

Are they garbage?i thought melee wpuld benefit the most from instant leech

[tawny pasture]

People cry on melee build

Melee build win hc race

Diversty tho is a real issue in melee build

[junior cobalt]

Boneshatter is the only thing that good lol

[sonic stirrup]

I really don't think it will work

[rustic isle]

Because the word life is in the family?

[bronze cave]

Because it has the craft tag "life" i assume

[rustic isle]

Aaah

Yes that makes sense.

[balmy moss]

hmm bow builds and wanders should be both leaguestart viable and scale into endgame, right? any other ideas with these properties?

[young vector]

is there a faq of the league mechanic, did they say we can forge ANY weapon or its concrete weapons?

[keen merlin]

Its whatever you have equipped, and theres a special way to do uniques that's harder to get to I think.

[young vector]

oh so the only requierement is having it equipped, neat

[fading cedar]

Can quivers have passive trees as well? Or just weapons and shields?

[keen merlin]

No quivers

They're treating bows as a two handed weapon for this.

[fading cedar]

I see, thanks

[long mauve]

I'm not mad just not excited at all. The game is a mess honestly, still thr best arpg out there but I need a break.

The balance is shot, game is too bloated. They really need to stop balancing the game around no lifers, give them their ruthless mode and their racing let the rest of us enjoy the game

[glad wharf]

I may have missed it, but where will the new uniques drop from?

[devout osprey]

we dont know yet.

[violet nymph]

Is leaguestart CoC gonna be a thing with the new saboteur changes lol?

[violet nymph]

The power ceiling is so high and rng heavy, even most no lifers won't reach the point of best gear possible on just "one" character within the timespan of the league

[wild arch]

Manaforged mirror arrow saboteur

[violet nymph]

The only pain I can see is mana cost and scaling attack speed early league

Predict cospri's will shoot up in price

[wild arch]

I've never gotten around to doing assailum puncture, but this league it looks amazing

Don't even need the helmet anymore, and manaforging a lvl 1 ensnaring arrow is the easiest automation ever

[sonic stirrup]

It is drop disabled next league, yes

As are all sanctum-specific items

[rotund pine]

so basically momentum just uh, boost ur move speed for a short time after u attack or something?

[dusky jungle]

It looks like using the linked skill grants you attack speed or damage or something, which then becomes movement speed after 3 attacks?

[plain knot]

just got to watch content reveal

all the cool new stuff and reddit mfs be crying about onslaught 🤣

[violet nymph]

reddit players taking 30h to get to maps complaining about losing onslaught

Can't wait to play Adrenaline

[sturdy leaf]

I'm not complaining about it, but to be fair 20% attack, cast and movement speed is huge "quality of life" to lose regardless of how fast you're going. It just makes things much smoother.

[torn isle]

Alternatively, just play guardian minions. :V

[sturdy leaf]

Or Raider and get some onslaught effect on top

[torn isle]

so, would raider now be the "gotta go mapclear fast" class?

[queen oyster]

My experience with it has certainly been quite gottagofast

[torn isle]

Think pathfinder had an edge over raider though, but think it might've lost some of that without onslaught and with pcoc dead.

[pale hemlock]

Low investment would be raider. Higher investment would be pathfinder.

[violet nymph]

ice spear mines,
similar to eye of winter mines, should be gucci right?