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[proper widget]

Combat Focus which can now be obtained through a vendor recipe.

[hoary oasis]

It would be nice if Endless Delve stayed there or became a private league possibility, I'm currently enjoying it more than SC leagues

[tidal gull]

I feel like im getting absolutely nothing from maps, ive progressed to t10 but am not getting any equal tier drops, and influenced maps dont seem to do a thing

[devout ledge]

so hyped for boat league

[empty crystal]

oh yeah!

[tawdry plover]

Influenced maps are t14+ boss drops

[hexed vale]

there is so little trade happening in Kalandra SC, it's depressing. And I still have gear goals and challenges to reach! 🙂

[patent ridge]

Bro kalandra is in like year 7 no one's even playing

[half jetty]

im playing kalandra idk why tho lol

[jade mica]

ssf style

[polar orchid]

Not the place for that

[violet nymph]

i just made it to cruel

for the first time in ages

[devout osprey]

you mean act 6?

[violet nymph]

I guess so

its not setup to restart anymore?

[devout osprey]

its 10 acts, "cruel" penalty happends after act 5, merciless after act 10

[violet nymph]

oh i see

[light adder]

been...5years or so like that, yeah

[compact dock]

did people get their 2nd lvl 50 box yet?

ok just read that its going to be awarded after all events ended

[distant hearth]

sad

[compact kiln]

You Do not see this every day

[midnight crest]

and never will again

[long mauve]

thank god

[patent ridge]

Good bye kalandra and good bye shit AN

[valid cape]

You wont be missed

[split pivot]

lost to rare mobs lol

[delicate phoenix]

quick question, when do you guys think this is gonna end? like monday?

[barren crescent]

Launch week monday

[wise latch]

Ugh idk if I can finish my challenges. Haven't had the motivation to keep playing

[dense ruin]

don't

[patent ridge]

I stopped at 28 I am the biggest noob

[worn sand]

ive been on 39 since very early in the league but i absolutely cannot bring myself to run 2 more labs. itd be like 5 minutes or so, but I just cant lol

[real inlet]

12! Nolifer corner is too exclusive, they're not letting me in

[patent ridge]

What

[native osprey]

[eager charm]

[wary isle]

THEY WILL COME

[patent ridge]

Btfo kalandra

Welcome pog sanctum

[flat bear]

melee league could be fun but I’m dying out here waiting for archmage changes

[livid apex]

it's not even melee league, they added molten strike 2 and called it a day

[flat bear]

taking melee splash out of links is a big change

[patent ridge]

Cleave my beloved I will league start you

[sterile fulcrum]

melee op

atziri disfavor from normal atziri lul ezgame

[violet nymph]

https://twitter.com/@pathofexile/status/1598085294125101057

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

Here are Kirac's Map Mods in The Forbidden Sanctum expansion

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Twitter · Nov 30, 2022, 10:43 PM

this is a nerf right?

deli isnt bad

but it doesnt look very good

[autumn merlin]

im scared of the 110% attack damage multiplier is it bad>

if i got iron grip and iron will would it be op with strength stacker

[marsh oracle]

the new synthesis jewel looks BROKEN!! -10 all res and +1% crit for 1 jewel socket

[violet nymph]

yeah i think they made those league mechanics as rare as hh too

10c for deli is out of hand imo

maybe not

4c for breach is absolutely insane

[lunar stirrup]

Guys does anyone know how do we "build" sanctum map?
is it like incursion? touch something per map?
or random drop then combine the map into a sanctum unique map?

[wary isle]

Probably some type of altar thing you interact with in the map

[dense ruin]

basically incursion, although you can store uses

8 so you can do 8 maps and then do an entire floor of the sanctum

[lunar stirrup]

so we touch things right?

[dense ruin]

well prob yeah, there's a lab like interface

for you to choose your next room

[lunar stirrup]

ya ... i wonder can we pre-pick rooms when ... "building" sanctum?

or just touch ONLY thing?

[dense ruin]

why would you be able to pre pick rooms

[lunar stirrup]

oh i thought we pre-plan when actually enter the sanctum?

[lunar stirrup]

like incursion?

we build the sanctum we want

[dense ruin]

you can choose what room to open before hand yes

[lunar stirrup]

when reach 11 maps then we can actually enter the sanctum ... yes?

or that's after we got 11 maps?

[dense ruin]

where are u getting 11

[lunar stirrup]

u said it like incursion

oh well in ur case u mention 8 rooms

[dense ruin]

concept wise, they're not making a direct copy of everything

[lunar stirrup]

i surprise they didn't explain anything about how do we enter sanctum haha

[dense ruin]

just watch the stream / content reveal for more info

[lunar stirrup]

Oh maybe is like kalandra?

[lunar stirrup]

they just showing when we INSIDE then sanctum right?

they didn't show when building the sanctum

or can u timestamp?

[dense ruin]

this is building the sanctum

it's not like incursion where you build a temple, instead you go through floor by floor

I guess you could consider the boss floor that

[lunar stirrup]

wait wait ... then what do u mean by this?

maybe i confuse this map

i thought u mean like getting 8 from normal map

[dense ruin]

you can go into 1 room a map

[lunar stirrup]

then when got 8 map then only can ENTER sanctum?

[dense ruin]

you can go into 1 room a map

you can save ur chances

to do 8 at once if you want

[lunar stirrup]

ah okay it is like incursion

but except this time u directly enter the whole room? no need actually" build it?

well not actually whole room but per phase right?

like u said per room

i think i get it now

an incursion but direct enter to temple atzoatl instead, correct?

[dense ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=sxpOaZjU5xg

[lunar stirrup]

but still enter 1-by-1 room ... well depends how much i stored

[dense ruin]

just watch the first 7 minutes

[lunar stirrup]

ya i did watch it .... is all inside sanctum

didn't actually explain how we enter the sanctum

or transition from normal map into sanctum

[dense ruin]

just an interact like incursion

[lunar stirrup]

i wonder ... does map mod affect the sanctum too?

or complete different instance ?

[tropic frost]

Chris denied it affecting during livestream

[dense ruin]

different

wouldn't work balancewise if it used map mods

[tropic frost]

flavor-wise as well

the idea isnt to kill you

but to hit you with as many things as possible to deplete your resolve(?) gauge, while trying to actually not kill you

[wary isle]

Hc players probably like that, though tbh we know there will be some wild combo of monster attacks that either destroy you or instadeplete your resolve

either way I'm looking forward to this. Delve is a fun casual side area content type, Heist is pretty unique and this looks kind of like a happy medium with some fun twists 😄

[dense ruin]

hopefully they keep that to the minimum

they've said the small pack attacks are pretty weak resolve wise

vs the big avoidable slams which will clap your resolve if you don't dodge

[violet nymph]

""The Voltaxic Rift Unique Bow no longer has 10% chance to Shock, existing versions of this Unique are unaffected. It now has "Adds 1 to 600-750 Lightning Damage" (previously 1 to 275-325), and 100% of Lightning Damage Converted to Chaos Damage (previously 60%). Existing versions of this Unique can be updated to the new values using a Divine Orb.""

this is HUGE right?

[dense ruin]

except for **hh and mageblood level

[violet nymph]

surely its not that rare

SURELY

SURELY THEY DIDNT NERF DROPS AGAIN

[dense ruin]

hopefully the script was wrong

and he meant to say t1 vs t0 unique

otherwise all of these uniques are severely underpowered for their rarity

[bleak crypt]

yep

[violet nymph]

anyone have a PoB item data copy/paste for that new flask?

i guess it wouldnt work yet

[formal sapphire]

Still no fire burst buff :(

[valid cape]

Yep but i don't see where you would play this bow

[wary isle]

well

there's the obvious one

[harsh bone]

Did GGG mention how area level affect the sanctum?

[wary isle]

Storm Call Poison

[harsh bone]

What's stopping someone from doing them in acts vs maps aside from the unique rewards at red tier maps

I hope we won't have another ultimatum where people just farm that specific area for massive currency gains

[scarlet lintel]

Divina

[harsh bone]

I'm guessing the rewards scale with area level, like the 18 chaos would be 5 or so

[glad bloom]

And how many floors in sanctum? 4?

[tall kayak]

8*4=32 , so yes 4

[austere whale]

I see noone talking about tainted fusings being buffed back, isnt it huge?

[leaden cloak]

not with the drop rate being abysmal still

[tidal gull]

New league hasnt started yet has it? Isnt it the 4th?

[steel marten]

maybe pathofexile.com has a big clue in the middle of their webpage

[sonic stirrup]

No, but patch notes dropped

[bronze cave]

Did they at any point say how map tier influences your sanctum rooms?
or if at all

[grizzled moon]

think they mentioned level scaling so it sorta goes hand in hand

[red stone]

drop rate was pretty decent last league with investment, might be even better now with dedicated new wheels on atlas tree

[austere whale]

A 20% qual spark with diallas is enough for 100% chaos conversion right?

[bronze cave]

I dont see why not

[austere whale]

I might finally try that sunblast spark trapper I put off last league cos the league sucked

[stable bolt]

don't think this was adressed in stream/QnA:
Maps have no effect on sanctum whatsoever so won't people just spam white maps to get entries to rooms asap?
Or red maps give some additional thing somehow?

[austere whale]

Higher tier maps should give more rewards still

But nothing stopping you from running them unrolled

Besides losing out on regular map loot

[dusty umbra]

or you know ashes

[austere whale]

Im poor

[dusty umbra]

diahlas aint cheap at start either

especially if you want 6l...

[austere whale]

It aint ashes tho

Tainted fusing buffs pog

[hazy bough]

ruthless mode has got me thinking what if they added a mode where you get no stash? or maybe like one half-page stash tab that is locked to your character, for the true masochists out there, no saving up div cards unless you are chasing that specific one, better spend all your currency fast or your inventory will fill up, etc

i guess there would be no shop tab which would be a pain for people who want to trade

[dense ruin]

you act like this would have a trade mode

entire point of it is storage space

trade would ruin the entire point of that

could see it as an extension of ssf

like ssf backpacker

[hazy bough]

oh ye i forgot you could just use another account as storage lol, guess it would have to be SSF

[bleak crypt]

no stash is a private league option already

[fossil rapids]

minions are still safe, right? lmao

[harsh bone]

Chris did mention that there are specific rewards only obtainable from red tier sanctums because they're valuable. But those seem to be from the final boss. So I still think we have another ultimatum case where quarry will be good since sanctum is basically currency

[crimson meadow]

what are some good league starters

[polar orchid]

Already a thing for private league mods

[granite hornet]

it would be interesting to know if we would become a ruthless mode for poe2 when it comes next year ( I hope).
I like the idea very much

[frigid jewel]

Ruthless mode looks really nice... my only concern is about active skills gems... You start with very few options

[cerulean osprey]

anyone else starting ssfhc in the Forbidden Seismic League!!

[hazy bough]

wait for zizaran to release leaguestart videos, he usually does at least 3 build guides leading up to launch

[lone glade]

Lightning conduitttt

[crimson meadow]

Im def going seismic trapper now

Shit is op

[dusk gazelle]

How is that important? Items can already be crafted to 6link for double the cost when corrupted.

[polar orchid]

[polar orchid]

They were already good so I dunno how much of an actual buff it is

Average was like 20 to get a 6l from a 4l from what I did myself and videos I've seen of people doing it

[austere whale]

Well back in scourge it was like 50-50 each try to go up or down

It was giga easy to 6 link shit

[polar orchid]

Yeah but this is like 5c per

[vagrant crater]

Why tf are there no balance changes

[fierce nacelle]

Where are the gem changes bro

[polar orchid]

[lone glade]

Super excited to start playing. POE release the game faster.

[marsh oracle]

it sounds like for sanctum, you need a mobile build like totems or brand so you can run around and dodge because resolve always takes damage

[lone glade]

Chieftain Volcanic Rift Totem build. get good scrubs.

[marsh oracle]

that sounds purdy good

[lone glade]

I have no idea what weapon to go with for it though..

[marsh oracle]

is it a slam? earthbreaker support?

[lone glade]

Do I convert the phys to 100% fire? Hmm…

[marsh oracle]

I think it's like either convert all to fire or use added lightning damage if you attack fast, but it looks like slow staff attack so its convert

[lone glade]

Yeah, I was thinking of zerker to get around the slow staff attack playatyle but I want to try out totems so it shouldn’t matter.

[marsh oracle]

fire totem sounds so safe build

will b very nice !

[tranquil sky]

Anyone else disappointed that Frozen Legion seemingly can't be supported by like anything cool?

[polar orchid]

Like?

[lone glade]

Spell echo not working with it is not neat

[marsh oracle]

It's been really annoying that every new skill has like a "cannot be triggered" feels like the skills act like redditors now

[tranquil sky]

no spell echo, no unleash, no totems etc etc

[polar orchid]

Oh so it's the obvious stuff

I thought they confirmed that it wouldn't work with shockwave

You had me worried

[tranquil sky]

heh sorry bro.. still i was excited to finally see a new cold skill.. now i'm thinkin twice cause it sounds boring without that stuff to support it

unless it hits like a freight train, then i'll retract that previous statement lol

[polar orchid]

It looks to do so

Especially if you use heatshiver

[solar gorge]

Is it possible to enable frozen legion as main skill?

[polar orchid]

Yeah use marohi erqi

[solar gorge]

How do u manage the cd cost?

[tranquil sky]

wonder if its affected by second wind

[polar orchid]

Yeah

No reason to use that

[solar gorge]

It got like 6 uses and use 5 to summon 5 statues/mirages

And to recover 5 uses needs 4secs 💀

[polar orchid]

Yeah that's fine

[valid cape]

Are they aware that they just killed dex stacking ?

[polar orchid]

Rip borzoi

[hot quail]

Didnt Chris say something about scaling frozen legion like a spell, with cooldown recovery and cast speed?

[crimson meadow]

is there anyone here that is experienced with venom gyre

if so dm me please

[tulip slate]

Been trying to revive starforge cyclone duelist. Not certain if I can make it work

[jaunty wadi]

Yo looking for a good glass cannon to run league content, any recommendations? Guess we can go in with 1hp right?

[polar orchid]

Not how that works

[patent ridge]

Hi

[true vigil]

I mean, technically if you take Chaos Inoculation you go with 1 HP

[pure bone]

hi

[golden spade]

so people here are naive and think this is going to be a good league?

[lone glade]

That is a bait mate

[crimson cloud]

Some absolute units give me their armor pls

[lone glade]

We don’t take bait here unless it’s for fishing secrets.

[nova harness]

Anyone else planning on running Explosive arrow ballista elementalist this league?

[haughty oracle]

wait, how can u save an entire floor to play later when u have to play each room to unlock the next choice of rooms ?

[marsh oracle]

does every character really get malediction now? seems pretty major, i wonder if it has any downsides

[thin crane]

Can we save the floor with one character, and run Sanctum with another character in same account ?

[solar gorge]

Downside is unnecessary additional point spent instead of free as ascendancy

[marsh oracle]

seems really busted to get malediction as elementalist or trickster

or even occultist with power charges

[patent ridge]

Fishing league when?

Fish for monsters and fight them

[marsh oracle]

does rarity still scale 'like that' for the new mods?

[thin crane]

nope

[marsh oracle]

ooo nice

[haughty oracle]

you think mass minion builds are gonna be meta for the Sanctum ? since evade and other defenses dont seem to work with resolve

[thin crane]

yea, but If u're Meta Slave, Don't forgot that all minion build got huge nerf at 3.19

[azure marsh]

can u help me with the list of removed item for 3.20

[haughty oracle]

since resolve isnt mitigated by evasion or block, does that mean even if you do evade or block an attack, you still take resolve damage ?

[mild ingot]

please let the league be good early

not the lake nonsense again 🙏

i dont want to fill a stash tab with a failed league mechanic 🙏

again

[haughty oracle]

Chris said no, so hardcore player can also play

[thin crane]

and we don't lose exp on fail Sanctum

[barren crescent]

some random burning oiled ground will surely melt a HC char or two before getting fixed

[austere whale]

No malediction is not on the tree

The extra curse effect it used to have is

[minor heron]

Friends is Volcanic Fissure a homing skill

[haughty oracle]

i think the vaal version is

[lone glade]

Vaal version is yeah

[terse aspen]

dark souls want its guardians back

hopefully those armor are our challenge rewards

but its properly going into core supporter packs next time

[crimson cloud]

the absolute chads

[mild ingot]

lol thought the same 😂 literally double pursuer

[solar gorge]

whats the short name of this league? sanctum?

[violet nymph]

Forbidden league

[eager charm]

Yea the name is sanctum

[scenic egret]

New league looks great, too bad I won't be able to play much until after new year

[lone glade]

I can't wait to play. It's taking so long.

[kindred parrot]

have they announced the qualities for the volcanic fissure yet

[lone glade]

no, no level 20 either. may not get anything until monday

[pliant ravine]

does someone have any idea on how point blank/far shot works with volcanic fissure?

i'm assuming point blank here is the play, right?

[teal rune]

Hey guys, do you think Seismic is still ok in this new league?

[lone glade]

Seismic will still shit on content, yes. Poision if you want to be safe since you can swap into other things like the new vaal gems.

[teal rune]

I see. Going to be my 2nd time playing it if I do it this league. For casual I think the normal one with Cold Iron point should be fine right?

[lone glade]

Yeah, totally.

[teal rune]

I had fun last time when I tried farming guardians, do you think it would still work this new league? They removed some of the atlas bonuses

[mild ingot]

seismic will probably be gret for league content too since its kiting focused

being able to consistently get to the end of sanctum will be huge

if they keep the kind of reward scaling they showed

[teal rune]

I may try this. Tho the last time I played seismic is I farmed guardian maps (with atlas bonus) then upgraded my gears with it and I had fun. Then killed late game bosses

Im wondering if I can do the same path this league, I heard last league guardian farming is not good.

[mild ingot]

its the main leage content LMAO

[teal rune]

Yeah but I think you are referring to the end of the end where Chris mentioned on the stream would be really hard.

[mild ingot]

well i dont see how they could make it hard for seismic without it being literally impossible for everyone else

[teal rune]

If Cold iron point seismic is fine with that then its good. Again i'm casual so I wasnt able to to end game stuff crafting etc.

[mild ingot]

from what we saw the ability to drop seismics and kite seems perfect for content that oneshots your resolve if you get hit

[flint bloom]

Question. In prep for the league start I was wondering if I should finish the campaign in my standard league character. I took a break during LoK, and in hype for sanctum should I knock out the story so I can speed run it with sanctum launch?

[mild ingot]

i mean

nothing u do affect league content

outside of it

[kindred parrot]

all depends on if you need a refresher before launch. just to help with familiarization of passives, atlas passives and all that fun stuff

[sinful glacier]

Is the evade working for resolve in sanctum ?

[mild ingot]

yes

[flint bloom]

@kindred parrot I really do lol I played till act 9 with 0 guides and I'm gonna be honest I have zero clue how to do anything. I was playing a molten strike jugg and was doing great now I'm struggling hard, plus I see people talk about atlas passive and a bunch of other stuff and I'm just lost

[kindred parrot]

i would watch a few guides about it itll make a big difference

[tough pewter]

@flint bloom PoE is a game that requires a loooot of time to get good at, and even more to master it somewhat. The closer you get to endgame, the more you'll struggle if you don't take the time and learn more about all the different mechanics, crafting, synergy etc.

Best way to get started is watch a guide, copy someone's build (preferably a playstyle you like) and then go from there. There's also a couple of helpful tools like loot filter and such, that'll improve your gameplay experience and make a lot of stuff more convenient

[harsh bone]

Isn't temporal chains really good for sanctum? It's already a boon that you can get, so it must be really good to dodge attacks easier

Enemies no longer have reduced curse effect, this seems to be the curse to go while doing a sanctum

[lone glade]

I’m worried about the attacks from non-mobs. The turret tower things I am not excited about. Anyone got pro dodge tips?

[harsh bone]

The non-mob attacks seem really easy to dodge. Very telegraphed

Just flamedash over it or any other such ability

[fossil shore]

I only have bad tips - get gud, don't go into the fire

[lethal ridge]

what replaces spectral helix as the go to melee lvling skill? looking to do the campaign in 4-5 hours

[dusty umbra]

you can still level helix imo, if you wanna practice just do it with 1 less supp gem and keep helix at lvl 1

[patent ridge]

I would rather die than use Helix

[paper arch]

how is this going to work with the new hex keystone that gives infinite duration?

[marsh oracle]

is going vortex in sanctum gonna be a terrible idea where it puts little deliriums on the ground instead of me not losing all my resolve

I have such a love hate relationship w this skill lol

[inner mulch]

help what is good build for op mage or wizard class

[tawny pasture]

you mean you want to use spell skill ?

[inner mulch]

ya cast spells and wield a powerful staff

[tawny pasture]

why staff and not wand and shield ?

[inner mulch]

cuz im not some noob

ultimate power will be mine

[tawny pasture]

you are if you use mage and wizard speaking about poe

[inner mulch]

w/e im a guild master

[tawny pasture]

that mean nothing

but only wanting to use staff reduce the skill you might use

and imo it reduce even more the league starter one

[inner mulch]

hmm maybe ill be a knight instead

[tawny pasture]

okai yeah you are kinda a noob then if its how you think char work in poe

its okai to be a noob tho

[inner mulch]

you can be my shield bearer

[patent ridge]

I am choosing paladin

[barren crescent]

Dibs on gucchi hobo with a shotgun

[cyan minnow]

hey guys, have any of you played blade flurry self cast recently ??? i was thinking about league start whit it...

i would like to ask about the clear, idk if its possible to make it decent, maybe whit the new vaal blade flurry idk

[rare tiger]

Guys, is Raider better suited for SC than Pathfinder for TR leaguestart? Phasing/Ele Avoid/Onslaught package sounds much better compared to flasks at leaguestart, no?

[rotund pine]

are totem build good for league mechanics? place totem and dodge shit

[grizzled moon]

its a good theory, if you like totems to begin with

[rotund pine]

played EA totem in archnem, was fine

depends on totem i think, searing bond just make me sleep

any spell totem for impale when i get the new glove later on?

impale = big boss dps right?

[rotund pine]

wait, they removed all threshold jewels? coc discharge officially ded?

[sonic stirrup]

Might want to actually read the patch notes.

Added 6 new vendor recipes for Dead Reckoning, Endless Misery, Spirit Guards and the three Combat Focus Unique Jewels. Happy hunting!

[violet nymph]

Any good Fist of War build?

[modest bloom]

Yes, I played both and Raider felt better to me by far.

[low gyro]

Raider is more quality of life while pathfinder is far more dmg

[fallow compass]

is the first time we get something that is account bound?

like item wise

[hybrid bluff]

guys i want ur opinion on something...waht better setup for winter orb occul? double voide batteries /or tullfall with malachais loop?

[fallow compass]

winter orb is that skill with the channeling and stays on top of you?

[tawny pasture]

yup

[fallow compass]

last time i saw a video of it was 2 leagues ago

for legion farming

[hybrid bluff]

well i wanna make a build to farm early and do endgame content

so the best way to avoid traps and random hits from the new content i thought of WO occul

at the same time WO can easily do shaper/elder/maven etc etc

after that im gonna decide if i wanna upgrade WO build or make another end MIN/MAX build

thats why im asking if 2ble void batteries or tullfall/malachais loop which is better

if i fail to do very endgame content like uber bosses and new content i can easily farm delis/legions etc etc with WO so i can make currency for a "doable" new build

[fallow compass]

idk if thats a good idea, almost every i see is highly against winter orb for league start

everyone*

[hybrid bluff]

i dont mind league start

after 2 days at least every1 should be able to make chaos racipies

at harvest league i made 320 chaos day 3 from chaos racipies

[narrow sinew]

Will there be more new skill gems other than what was in the content update?

[silver kettle]

totally new? no. there are still a couple of vaal skills that haven't had much information released yet, though the full list of them is in the patch notes.

[nimble herald]

was it mentioned somewhere how resolve interacts in partyplay? is it shared or does every partymember has his own resolve bar?

[grizzled moon]

who ever "owns" the sanctum, youre playing with their resolve

so shared i suppose, but essentially you dont get two choices, its their sanctum

[nimble herald]

thanks

[narrow sinew]

Okie Ty 🙂

[harsh bone]

Oh wow looks like the offer rooms has no monsters

I'm not certain though, but from the trailer they just walk in to the offer right away

I highly doubt they'll give us this room for free though

It'd be insane if it's actually empty

[lilac saffron]

Gonna chain 8 offer rooms in a row

[harsh bone]

Right? It'd be crazy if they're empty

The trailer shows a path with 6 offers

so you're only facing 1 actual rooms then the boss

[lilac saffron]

Its not empty

One of the options gives a reward upon completing the room

[harsh bone]

Ah you're right. It does say "Offer items on completion"

so you must complete it

Oh well, we tried

[zenith talon]

vaal blade furry is what i almost want

"KATANA STANDO omaewamo shindeiru"

[tepid ermine]

what is the best ascendancy for Smite inquiz?

[patent ridge]

Yes

[solar gorge]

Head check, whos starting in sc trade ruthless?

[patent ridge]

Imagine playing sc trade ruthless

Ssf hc ruthless or game is too easy

[solar gorge]

Just saw ruthless wont have any challenge counted, so sed

[solar gorge]

Thats like an offline game lol

[stable cave]

Hey as a question for that new artifact system is there a level gate or a gate like thief trinkets or can we equip em at lv 1? For say a extra twink gear piece

[gritty lava]

Good question actually

I would assume it works the same as heist, but I cant remember if the trinket slot is character based or not

[stable cave]

Yeah for a character to get a trinket slot they must do a grand heist

Each character does so does that mean we new character we do has to do the challenge to get it

?

Cause they phrase it like it’s quite a difficult task to get the original slot and if we have to do it again on each toon is rough

[gritty lava]

okay well then I assume you unlock relic slots per character as well yeah

[stable cave]

:/ shame if it was just fully unlocked for the acc if ya did it once that’d be sick

They look like they got nice stats and that would be awesome to level with

[gritty lava]

There could easily be one that adds flat damage to attacks/spells

so i could see why that isnt a thing

at the same time its a second character so who really cares

[harsh bone]

Nope each character has their own slots (Already confirmed in faq today)

And I assume you'd have to unlock it each time (not the locked slots, but the ability to place your relics. I'd also assume the locked slots will be unlocked for the whole account once you unlock them on one character)

Kinda like scourge too. You had to interact with the character to unlock your scouring thingy, but once you did, you had all the unlocked slots already. Or like sentinel. You'd have all your points available

So it does seem to be pretty fair, if my assumptions are true which they seem to be logical with the info we have so far

[dreamy estuary]

Yo guys, may I ask if the League time is alrdy anounced? Didnt play for many leagues, cannot remember the usual time! Thanks 🙂

[harsh bone]

https://www.pathofexile.com/

4 days 9 hours

[dreamy estuary]

Ty ❤️

[fringe umbra]

So when can i start endless heisting in the new league?

[potent basin]

How fast can you hit a6 and snag some markers?

[sonic stirrup]

I think you're no longer guaranteed the first marker drop

[potent basin]

That's fine, reaching a6 still unlocks the chance.

The point is that the answer to his question is basically "asap" and that leveling/storyline are basically optional. You'll want labs to do it efficiently and better rooms are available at certain levels but you can start whenever. As long as you have a marker.

[glad bloom]

You still can buy marker from other players, if you need.

[sonic stirrup]

Unless you're ssf

[hasty perch]

so, anyone made a list of expected decent league starters in ruthless?

or do I just yolo some random corrupted fever no link build

[barren crescent]

You cant really plan out full builds as support gems are rng

[rotund pine]

aight need some opinions, ball lightning totem or cold dot?

[patent ridge]

Flicker golems

[frail steppe]

do we have a list of challenges/rewards yet?

[wild arch]

I've seen people mention something about the new gems being on pob but I can't find anything

[patent ridge]

Yeah but they're only available to people who play hcssf

[solar granite]

Toxic rain raider for league starter

First ranger build for me that I'm gonna get serious with lol

[ancient zinc]

ugh I don't get how people can stand playing that

caustic is one thing but Toxic rain ain't kind to the hands, unless you go the mirage archer route

[solar granite]

Ye mirage acher lol

Probably start with ranger for leveling then swap go deadeye

[knotty cove]

What do ya’ll think is the best supporter pack

$60-

[solar granite]

All depends on how cool you wanna look haha

I'm gonna go with the forge

I wanna show when I 6L an item haha

Eh I might just start as deadeye honestly lol

I know raider is definitely attack speed and defense base

[cosmic spire]

I'm not a huge fan of the supporter packs this time but I like the steam back attachment

[dusk gazelle]

Gonna try Consecrated Path strengthstack Totem chieftain because totems will be good, and I like the idea of teleportaslam. Sad that health isn't so important, but even so, totems.

[hybrid fog]

challenge league armour helmet has a divine orb facemask

[final zodiac]

im ready to have 100% ritual uptime, lets get it boys, good luck everyone for this weekend!

[harsh bone]

Is ritual even worth farming? I'm always scared of it not being worth it unless you're HEAVILY investing to get a mirror

[grizzled moon]

to get reliable currency out of it, might be better to sell the bloodfilled vessels

the other stuff is down to luck

[final zodiac]

i just find doing the mechanic fun

[barren crescent]

Thing with ritual is that it can only spawn rewards that you are able to at least defer with the money

So doing juicier rituals, produce more top tier rewards

[wary isle]

Yep, when you can use a blood-filled vessel every single map you can get lots of stuff, it's pretty sick

[barren crescent]

Say deferring a mirror is flat 4k monz, if your last ritual yielded less than 4k, you'd never ever spawn a mirror in the shop.

[plush berry]

when does league end ?

[grizzled moon]

in 6 hours? or so

wednesday new zealand anyway

https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/1599511954946953217

Path of Exile (@pathofexile)

@razgarnok Wednesday 7th December at 10am NZT

Twitter · Dec 4, 2022, 9:12 PM

[sonic stirrup]

#1┃endgame-help message

[main epoch]

Have they revealed how the level scaling works in the Sanctum? Is it based on the map you ran? What happens if you run the first few on t16 and then run the rest on t1?

[daring mantle]

Anyone know when 20 20 gems supposed to be released

[dusty umbra]

either today or tomorrow

[harsh bone]

It's tomorrow, today is the atlas tree

[smoky geyser]

did anyone else notice poison will be getting 60% of its duration back forma bug fix?

[harsh bone]

Oh wait today is Tuesday not Wednesday fk

[dusty umbra]

today is Wed in NZ

[harsh bone]

Oh then yeah today is atlas tree

they said gems were either tuesday or thursday

[smoky geyser]

wait when do we get the new toys?(gems)

[harsh bone]

Tomorrow

[smoky geyser]

cool

i wana try cursed ground and hexblass vs ubers

but im too poobrain to make a build

ill jsut check that my curent build does damage and go with that

[harsh bone]

Yeah my brain isn't big enough either lol

[tropic frost]

theres been some cool theorycrafts going around. I got one for poison hexblast traps if you want an inferior but still strong alternative to seismic

[minor ermine]

How do you end up with 60%, as it was only when you have the mod stating poison deals faster?

[muted bluff]

Maybe including temp chains(?) Just guessing here, im also curious :p

[umbral chasm]

Did you know that if you spec into hex master

It's no longer temp chains

They're perma chains

[languid lake]

rip no tree

[harsh bone]

So sad

[pale hemlock]

Dot builds doing uber with low invest league?

[oak patio]

You think being very tanky vs dmg is better for the league mechanic?

[tawny pasture]

Who can tell without playing it

[oak patio]

Idk all we know about it

[final zodiac]

with the new fracturing currency, would it allow us to multi fracture, or just once per item

[minor ermine]

Once, they told us

Otherwise you will end up with a full fractured item won't you... 😛

And the orb kinda states it. 😛

[final zodiac]

dang

[atomic heart]

sanctified relics have level requirements.

you generally won't be able to equip them until at least level 50 or so I believe? not sure o the number.

[pseudo hull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/160304569203556352/1050017095951327232/image.png

Accintia has spoken.

[hybrid fog]

in the trailer it seemed like u still took quite a lot of dmg so i dont think u can go full glass cannon

[honest ledge]

any ruthless private league on planning?

[dreamy yarrow]

i just tried to create one and i don't know if it's possible yet. there's no ruthless checkbox

j/k there is ruthless in the dropdown!

[lone glade]

Oooh, private leagues might be fun to start with!

[hasty perch]

cant wait to start ruthless

its a blessing for people with potato PCs

making acts and non turbo juiced content challenging is pretty cool when you cant do really high juice without having 2fps

[smoky geyser]

[hasty perch]

Also the idea of having dropped items be actually valuable to you sounds nice

fingers crossed to get a spellslinger drop somewhere

and just ram all spellskills i can with it

might give a go to some phys melee skill too

with melee splash and + strikes on tree it may be somewhat decent unlinked if you add like corrupting fever unlinked as bonus damage

just kinda curious about sanctum drops in ruthless

(and globally other "forced" drop mechanics)

[smoky geyser]

20% poison duration* with 20% more damage with 20% less duration

anyone else enjoying them removing fracturing horticraft and pushed it to harbi only shard which 1/20s an orb to make up for the lack of divine shards

[livid pecan]

holy fuck, vaal cleave = headhunter?

am i reading this right

[lone glade]

Yeah

[livid pecan]

am i missing something? isnt that absolutely insane?

[tranquil sky]

How much worse is cleave if you dual wield?

[minor ermine]

No its clunky

You have to kill the rare with the vaal cleave itself :p

So if you hit hard with a fast normal.cleave

You might accidentially kill it without the vaal

Thus not gaining the mods

What is possible is trying to turn in into utility?

Like bring mobs guarantueed cull range and then swoop them mods

[uncut vortex]

When are we getting actual skill buff and nerfs to switch up the meta? I’m running out of ideas after 3 league of the same shit

[grizzled moon]

poe 2

[bronze rover]

so did MS get a buff? im confused with less damage with hits, isnt that the same as less damage?

or is it now a Dot build?

[silver kettle]

it's mostly a description change, it doesn't matter in practice

technically it's a big buff to Molten Strike + Decay Support...I assume you don't particularly care about that

[bronze rover]

well i have played ms almost exclusively since i started playing poe

just didnt understand if the damage application changed

[minor ermine]

What do you mean with this if ... it is a description change? If it is a description change, how can it be a buff as well? 😄

Oooh

I see

It now only is applied to the dot from the ms

not from other sources?

[silver kettle]

because the main intent is to clarify the functionality, but it does technically have gameplay consequences

just not ones that are likely to matter much

[minor ermine]

Oh ok np then, thx for clarifying!

[slender osprey]

So with the resolve system in the league mechanic, are we being incentivized to not play slow, tanky characters? Will our character's stats affect resolve in any way? If avoiding damage entirely is the only way to not take resolve damage, it seems like zhp delvers will be the best bet

[devout osprey]

we know that staying close to boss (or was it boss' attacks) takes less off your resolve

[minor ermine]

And I thought they mentioned that the traps or balls or whatever were going to reduce resolve but not as much dmg or something, didn't they?

[hasty perch]

does smite and vaal smite aura stack? and caustic arrow/vaal caustic arrow ground effect stack?

[minor ermine]

don't think they stack, I just hope the normal one does not replace the vaal version 😛 But that would be weird, it is probably a an aura buff twhere "the strongest' survives.

[slender silo]

If they stack, it would be kinda hilarious

[violet nymph]

you are being incentivized to actually dodge the avoidable mechanics that have clear windups

Aka: don't get hit. doesn't matter if you are fast or slow, getting hit is bad.

[solar gorge]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjaZVZvVsAELEAI.jpg

One small sentence single handedly made sanctum interesting league

[tall herald]

Whats everyone league starting?

[knotty cove]

Here’s some popular league starters

Poison Seismic trap is probably the best. I’m league starting explosive arrow Ballista champion

[tall herald]

im curious to what you guys specifically are playing i cant decide for me its between these :

WoC/EK ignite

Poison seismic/exsanguinate

Maw of Mischief Ignite Elementalist

Caustic arrow/Deaths oath Occultist/Trickster

EA Ballista Elementalist/champ

RF jug

Cold dot Trickster/Occultist

ive played them all at one point or another but most not for many leagues :p my main goals are to just clear the atlas get 4 watchstones asap on a low budget then be able to have a smooth transition into a fast mapper to make enough currency for hh pretty much

[knotty cove]

They are all good options. Watch videos on them all and see which play style you enjoy

I made a LS Omni Raider for kalandra

[tall herald]

rip ls 😦

[knotty cove]

Have you ever gotten a hh before?

It’s a yes or a no question

Don’t need to hear your paragraph long response

[languid lake]

???

[tall herald]

lmao bro my gf is showing me her ow highlights at the same time wtf is your problem xD

[languid lake]

easiest mapper would be cold dot occu or rf inquis/jugg

[knotty cove]

You were typing a lot of a simple response. The reason is because hh is usually extremely expensive so if you haven’t had experience chasing one before than I doubt you’ll get one.

[gloomy abyss]

His answer is yes. He essentially funded the HH market in sentinel istg this man was obsessed :'))

[languid lake]

hh is pretty cheap just a time investment. i don't think anyone is incapable of getting one

[gloomy abyss]

spent the whole league farming cards to sell HH with good corruptions

[languid lake]

just stop wasting currency on random stuff

[gloomy abyss]

right?

[knotty cove]

So don’t focus on your gear and die a lot

[languid lake]

i did not say that

but that is an option

investing in your build to clear better is not "wasting currency on random stuff"

[tall herald]

@knotty cove what is wrong with you man? your attitude is appalling towards people

[languid lake]

yeah fr. tilted for 0 reason

[knotty cove]

Alright.

[gloomy abyss]

👀 see

anyway, Herro what are you playing this league? ^^

[tall herald]

I'm glad im not the only person that has noticed this guy is being really rude for no reason at all idk what I said to offend him but I hope hes ok xD

[languid lake]

seismic trap

[tall herald]

yeah the biggest part of saving for that big ticket item is knowing whats worth dipping into it for and what isn't

[gloomy abyss]

i honestly just dont grind enough for hh. i wanna get one but. am lazy

[tall herald]

you going poison herro or cold convert crit? I assume poison with that spicey mastery/curse buff

[knotty cove]

I’m still here man you don’t have to act like I don’t exist. I was simply questioning if you actually wanted to put in the time investment to get a hh considering you probably have other responsibilities

[languid lake]

poison might go crit convert after* i get mageblood

[gloomy abyss]

you were really rude about it, deliberately or not. but lets move on.

[tall herald]

@knotty cove I can see you are still here it shows when you are typing, I'm just not sure if I want to engage with you because of your attitude towards me and Herro lol

[knotty cove]

Well I’m sorry if it came off as rude I did not intend that. I just didn’t know his skill level

[split kestrel]

I'm also going seismic. haven't played it before

[gloomy abyss]

Im thinking of playing a bow build. i always play necro of some sort, and the one im looking at is Toxic rain

[split kestrel]

this was me picking a starter KEKW

[tall herald]

Seismic is so good the only thing that bothers me early on is getting the cooldown recovery rate to a respectable level

[languid lake]

whatever u find fun just play it

[languid lake]

dont have to seismic not required

[gloomy abyss]

i dunno if i find it fun i've never done it before lets hope

[knotty cove]

I was questioning your skill level and experience. I don’t think I had a bad attitude, but it’s your place to judge me as you see fit. I don’t care either way. Have a fun league start

[tall herald]

Bunny isn't a fan of dieing/being squishy so in terms of a bow build I know toxic rain is a good idea

[gloomy abyss]

^^"

gamer grill rage

[languid lake]

its quite squishy early but u can fix it later

[tall herald]

@knotty cove and you I hope you have an awesome league start, what do you play SSF/Trade/HC etc?

[languid lake]

but being ranged also helps dodging stuff

[split kestrel]

only problem with TR is having to stand still monkaS

[tall herald]

yeah its kinda lame the damage ramp is real though

totems help a lot for that

[gloomy abyss]

Yeah! the range is what im clutching onto for hope since minions let me stand back all the time

[tall herald]

you can get half your damage whilst moving or stand still to double it for pure dps

[gloomy abyss]

TR first char - definitely playing Cursebot for Doge and his friend on my second

[knotty cove]

You can just reply to my message if you want to talk with me, you don’t have to @ me. I’m playing softcore trade because I’ve only put about 470 hours into Poe so I’m still quite new compared to people in here.

[gloomy abyss]

he's learning lmao

teaching him how to use discord reply

[tall herald]

oh my bad :p and thats a good choice have you dipped into SSF much or just trade so far?

[split kestrel]

I get too much enjoyment out of making my own dumb builds to play HC or SSF

if I had to worry about getting all the items myself and making them HC viable I'd cry LUL

[tall herald]

SSF is pretty good for it like getting even a bad rare unique makes you wanna build around it somehow thats how it is for me atleast

xD true

tbh

eldritch stuff

makes SSF feel super good

and if fractured orb shards aren't super rare that will be awesome for SSF too

[split kestrel]

I'm thinking about trying a duo found with my friend at some point but I'm gonna try and juice softcore to make some silly builds first

I'm a big flicker enjoyer I made a (as close as you can get) to permanent Berserk uptime flickerstrike berserker last league

and since they released Vaal flicker I have to make at least one flicker build

don't know what angle I want to do it this time though

[gloomy abyss]

vaal flicker seems really fun but am scared

[tall herald]

I love the idea of like a group self found with a few friends but I don't have a ton of friends that play

[split kestrel]

I just love flicker lmao

I first played it in ultimatum

[tall herald]

flicker is really fun

i havent played it since i played an oros variant years ago

[split kestrel]

the density of the challenges.....

soo good

you just hold right click and give yourself over to whatever god's are watching

lmao

toxic sewer is a t16 this league too

which is like the best flicker map possible

[tall herald]

xD i think a soulthirst variant would be fun with todays density

man im gonna be farming haunties and burials if HH is more than 70% the price of mageblood

[split kestrel]

I've been messing about with a bunch of different options, still not sure what to do

[tall herald]

Haunties has been gone for a couple leagues and should be getting the apothecary card

[split kestrel]

poison flicker maybe

ignite makes the most sense for vaal flicker but

[tall herald]

poison is kind off annoying because all the poison stacks become 1 at the end of the vaal flicker but because it comes from multiple 0 damage hits you cant boost the big poison with the 300% node on the tree

its kinda sad i wanted that combo to be awesome xD

i was hoping you either get all 25 stacks or you get 1 mega stack that you can boost with the 300% damage node

[split kestrel]

wait are you sure it doesn't benefit from the 300% node?

that does suck if it is the case

[knotty cove]

Just trade

[tall herald]

i believe each hit applies the ailment but they dont tick until after vaal flicker is used in which case they are combined into a super poison of sorts

maybe im wrong

[split kestrel]

I mean flicker applies one big ignite

[tall herald]

im going by the GGG responses from i think mark? on reddit but i could be missunderstanding

[split kestrel]

I don't know about poison

the node is worded "deal 300% more damage on unpoisoned enemies" or something along those lines, I'd assume they don't count as poisoned until they take damage

[tall herald]

i think it does give 1 big ignite/poison/bleed but for the sake of the 300% node it doesn't count because its not the first hit that can apply application or something im not too sure ill try to ask and hope GGG respond

[split kestrel]

I could be wrong but I think it should work

hmmm

[muted bluff]

That is correct Chaos

[tall herald]

i hope so

[muted bluff]

After the last hit, the damage is applied

As well as the ailments

[split kestrel]

yeah, so it should work

[muted bluff]

So they are unpoisoned until the big final hit

[split kestrel]

stack the mastery+cluster notables+alchemists mark YEP

giga poison

[tall herald]

id like to think it works but im hesitant there are simpler things that don't work as intended 😛

[muted bluff]

You gotta survive the whole duration too xD

[split kestrel]

ignite is objectively better for this, though, compared to poison

because of the new curse node

refreshes ele ailments on curse application

just get a curse on hit and your huge vaal flicker ignite is permanent

[tall herald]

yeah big ignites are in a pretty good spot and poison is getting there with alchemists mark and the notable

[split kestrel]

yeah poison got big indirectly buffs this patch

[tall herald]

oh massive

with the duration on the mastery getting fixed and the curse changes on bosses

yeesh huge buff

[split kestrel]

yeah temp chains buff is big

[tall herald]

also sanctum relics look nuts

[split kestrel]

they do, holy shit lmao

[tall herald]

+charges, damage per attribute, aura effect, tree notables xD

so good man

[split kestrel]

I love how they're account bound too

[tall herald]

fortify on hit

we can assume onslaught

i love that too

self farming them

aslong as the league mechanics somewhat fun [i love roguelites]

[split kestrel]

a build around item if I drop something sick

[tall herald]

for sure

and i love that

[split kestrel]

same

[tall herald]

you get a sick int stacking one or a charge one or something

it makes you wanna reroll for it

so good ❤️

its like adding the best part of SSF to trade with no downsides

[split kestrel]

yeah

[runic wraith]

will RF be meta in this league?

[harsh bone]

Most likely. It hasn't changed and it was popular last league

[eager charm]

Inquis did get a nerf but should still be fine

[mortal raven]

25% less reduced curse effect and 5% regen

barely counts for a nerf in my eyes

[tawdry plover]

Dmg got buffed too through curses haha

[mortal raven]

(boss dps)

which is what it lacked anyway tbf

[tawdry plover]

Yeah, mapping usually pretty fine once you get a couple upgrades. And rares won't often have mods that synergize against your build now

[wanton flower]

Well I was already going to play day 1 int stack wander, that new relic is phwoar

[candid anchor]

i get the feeling like with SSF you'll be best off rerolling after you get a decent relic

like SSF is with certain unique combos etc i mean

[wanton flower]

Not just SSF

After coming off from playing the Ruthless alpha, even on trade people had this mentality of rolling after getting a decent item, seems like they wanted to shift the mindset to sanctum, which I'm honestly all for

[harsh bone]

Everything about sanctum just looks perfect. Progress is mandatory since you can only store 8 keys. Items are account bound so you have to find them yourself and are non-craftable. The mechanic has enough RNG and is a known game genre of it's own which is a lot of un

[candid anchor]

kinda seems like the optimum route is to do both musk

go glass cannon due to resolve

[harsh bone]

this has a lot going for it. If they land the balance of resolve right, could be the best league they had

[candid anchor]

but carefully consider artifact choices etc

don't get me wrong its mostly the latter

just how you'd approach it seems like a mix

i think a lot of people will be put off ruthless by the lack of challenges

ik they're adding them next league but if any time was the time to sell it now was

[rare tiger]

Do you guys think Despair and Blasphemy nerfs killed Death's Oath Caustic Arrow build? Was planning to leaguestart with it.

[feral bear]

I also plan to start with DO/CA and have played it a few leagues ago. It's weakness was the boss damage and in this regards it is not nerfed if I understood the patch notes correctly

I think it's still a decent mapper at least

[rare tiger]

Uhm, by bosses I assume you're talking about real bosses like pinnacle ones, something DO CA builds never intended to do anyway

Overall the mapping, the sole thing going for the build, sounds like nerfed. 25% inc chaos dmg taken is gone from Despair

Occ also lost Malediction, which was another 10%

that's 35 inc chaos dmg taken gone, and for what, an extra 7% chaos res reduction on despair? Keep in mind that Blasphemy also gives Despair 25% less effect, so on mapping it's like a total of extra 2% chaos res reduction compared to 3.19, and enemies taking 35% increased chaos damage gone from build.

[full basin]

does evasion/dodge can help to evade hits in sanctum, to mitigate loosing "Resolve"?

[tropic frost]

pretty sure they said no. Resolve damage can only be avoided mechanically or reduced by being closer to the origin

[full basin]

okey

thanks=)

[sonic stirrup]

Did they specify dodge?

[weary path]

Will sanctum (the new league mechanic) appear in every zone in ruthless or not?

[wanton flower]

Its roughly 1 in every 2 zones going off the alpha discord

Although thats not a set in stone figure, thats from when it was last brought up and it was still being tested afaik

[weary path]

Thanks, is there a way I can join the ruthless discord since alpha is over?

[wanton flower]

Not currently to my knowledge, when you join you have to give your account name to get access, and i believe its connected to those approved

The nda was lifted like a week or two ago so 🤷‍♂️

[rotund pine]

i heard this league starts a bit earlier? anyone know when/has a timer?

oh wait, poe site should have timer

[grizzled moon]

indeed

[kindred kernel]

What do you think with the upgrade of Voidforge ? think it will be nice 2h elem sword ?

[lilac saffron]

It was already good

Now it looks pretty broken

[junior locust]

pre download?

[wanton flower]

wait for tomorrow for that usually, or late today

[hasty perch]

yeah voidforge looks bonkers

so many phys skills with like 100 flat phys in the gem

curses being buffed is real nice for it too on bosses to get some decent ele weakness going on top of trinity support

might be a solid contender for vaal cleave builds

since you real want one big vaal cleave hit to kill rares

and it has flat phys

[delicate phoenix]

is the filterblade.xyz stuff up to date for 3.20?

[polar orchid]

Not yet

[hasty perch]

play ruthless like me

no need to update filters

if there is no loot

smort

[delicate phoenix]

I just use semi-strict, takes me 2 minutes lol

in what way do you adjust yours?

[strong canyon]

have they come out with the new atlas passive tree yet for 3.2?

[minor ermine]

Will be at launch

3.20 that is

[strong canyon]

ug

[minor ermine]

3.2 did not have atlas tree

[strong canyon]

wanted to plan my atlas passives 😦

yeah, was a typo

I mainly love bossing, and wanted to see how they revamped all the boss nodes

[lone glade]

Whose playing what friends

[rotund surge]

yes

[lone glade]

I didn’t know that was a build.

[rotund surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d_RxWDlinE

[lone glade]

Oh no, hydrosphere looks good too.

Ok, build #5!

[limpid wave]

Hey all, I started playing POE at the end of the sentinel league and played my proper first league in LK with the help of my friends for my cyclone build. I am looking at playing a different class this time round and was wondering what the best website is to use for builds and information ?

[sacred token]

poe.ninja

[limpid wave]

awesome thank you 🙂

[sacred token]

also make use of Path of Building.

Get used to it, the tool is godlike

[limpid wave]

yeah I used it a little in LK but nothing to crazy but it was so helpful

[harsh bone]

Why do you find it annoying/hard? There are presets that you can make and apply to any filter. So I already created presets for a league starter and I simply apply it to a regular filter. As the league goes on, I simply go and hide what I find unnecessary as I play. I don't even have to look for it on filterblade, just ctrl+c the item and paste it in filterblade under simulate section. You can then edit the rule. It might sound time consuming but you're not doing it often. I mostly do it in maps, then in red tier and then when I finish my build for the end game filter

[faint thunder]

jungroan vs ShakCentral cold dot for softcore trade?

[mortal raven]

whichever one is the elementalist

[faint thunder]

juns is ele but everyone on the video is saying not to play his lmao

[mortal raven]

dont play it then /shrug

Personally i like trickster variant the most

its tanky!

[faint thunder]

iv never played the ele..everyone saying its a ton of buttons...hows the trickster variant?

[mortal raven]

more comfy for sure, has better sustain while mapping, less aoe, bit less dmg, way tankier

i mean, it uses cold dot skills

vortex, vaal cold snap,

the works

[queen wave]

Debating between vaal venom gyre and ek ignite. Anyone got anything to help sway me one way or the other?

[frosty plover]

Flicker strike for full meme 😛

[ancient zinc]

ek ignite build allows you to swap to other ignite builds if you dont like it

[fervent goblet]

Can anyone remind me the channel name of the guy thats rly knowledgeable on blade vortex?

Or their choice for best BV league start guides

[patent ridge]

Ek ignite is the meta redditor build

[raven ferry]

what time does the queue start

for tomorrow

[proper widget]

get out your tent

it starts now

[visual stone]

Vaal flicker if u survive first flick

[ocean fulcrum]

6.6.23 👀

[wet harbor]

So are Sanctified Relics untradeable because they'll actually drop good or because GGG is mad at us.

[hollow sigil]

How is EK Ignite's bossing?

[jade mica]

its a high dps ignite build

[harsh bone]

because they're build defining. They don't want people to just trade them because then they'll have to make them super rare which and they'll be expensive. Most people will complain that this is for top 1% and the cycle continues lol. Maybe this is a test for something account boundable in poe 2

[narrow sinew]

League started?

[marsh oracle]

the forbidden sanctum theme is POGGERS, very hype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXlc7utADhA

[tawdry plover]

Check timer on website

[feral bear]

12h from now on

[sacred token]

Imma just start with a shelix slayer and make it vaal flicker, lol

[hollow sigil]

EK Ignite vs. CA Ballista for SSF, which is smoother?

[narrow sinew]

Ty

[gritty heath]

New league best league am I right?

[gritty heath]

Account bound items would fix sooo many issues with the game

[candid anchor]

I mean nearly all the recent changes have been buff the top, nerf and pretend its an overall buff

they dont want to add account bound or deterministic stuff or balance things reasonably because slowing players down=more playtime=around more to consider microtransaction purchases

and initial stash purchases ofc if you have to grind and store more

[harsh bone]

I think people sometimes forget that this is a business after all. They’ll be adopting methods that generate the most amount of money while pissing the least amount of players. Or at least try. Their previous leagues might be fk ups, or might be plans for the long term

Seeing how they literally design new nodes less than a week before launch makes me think they’re fk ups and no long term hidden plans behind them lol

[analog rapids]

I’d imagine they’ll keep away from the socials for the week 1 fixes

Bex is going to be very busy dealing with reddit and forum discontentment if 3.20 is anywhere near as bad as 3.19’s start

[wanton flower]

"- Sanctum encounters will appear in every zone just like the base game, but with rewards rebalanced for Ruthless."

That's the official response for it now 🙂

[void badge]

No new PoB yet?

Or am I an idiot (or both)

[minor ermine]

Just wait and press check for updates..

Or import the new tree in it yourself

Or use a pre-release version from github

[fossil aspen]

torrent?

[violet dagger]

Release is ready to be deployed so soon.

[scarlet lintel]

Anything good to start with?

Gladiator CF?

Slayer Boneshatter?

[void scarab]

hi, does anyone has the torrent link for the 3.20 preload?

[minor ermine]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3324936/page/1#p24826843

Just look at official posts next time 😛

[void scarab]

Oh, the site is just under maintenance just now. I thought it would be longer, lol

[minor ermine]

Huh?

I can still go n it?

[void scarab]

yes, 5m ago it said 'Under maintenance". But when you sent me the link, it worked

[dusty umbra]

here you go

nvm seems like site is already up

[void scarab]

Thanks! I got it from the site already 🙂

[vocal light]

Is there a release time?

[dusty umbra]

Patching server goes up 1h or so before release

As for release time check pathofexile.com

[vocal light]

Thanks

[narrow sinew]

Oni goroshi 😹

[crimson meadow]

when will league start

[crimson meadow]

jesus what

[tawny pasture]

Countdown on the website

[weary path]

Thank you for the update, appreciate it ❤️ That was the only thing I was worried about.

[cloud girder]

Does anyone have a gif of the new slam skill that erupts fire?

[wanton flower]

npnp

[junior locust]

filter file out?

[crimson gyro]

https://streamable.com/sxt566

[worldly thistle]

atlas tree update when

[last cosmos]

build start for you ?

[silent jay]

Queing possible in how much time? +-

[halcyon cosmos]

is sanctum available before maps?

[silver kettle]

Yes, current league mechanics are always available from act 1

[sonic stirrup]

When does the kalandra pack disappear?

[silver kettle]

I would assume when the site goes down to update in an hour

[sonic stirrup]

I see

[halcyon halo]

debating on playing this league or not

[austere whale]

atlas tree when 😦

[mortal raven]

2 hours or so probably

[rotund pine]

patch should go alive in 30min?

[mortal raven]

i wish ):

[silver kettle]

slight correction, they're around until the new patch goes live

[sonic stirrup]

I see. Thanks

[rotund pine]

wait so when is patch likely be available?

[pulsar maple]

how long until download?

[gleaming zodiac]

something between 1 minute ~ 2 hours 31 minutes 🤣

[pulsar maple]

you're not wrong

[potent jay]

yeah they said its available 3h prior to league launch

I am waiting

[rancid maple]

is league launch in 2 1/2 hours or 4 1/2h?

[potent jay]

2.5

[chilly creek]

Is patching up?

[rotund pine]

rip

[potent jay]

no

but hey atlas passivetree is no on the site

[young vector]

are the challenges updated?

[runic tide]

whats everyone playing for league start

[proper musk]

Cumblast ignite

[pulsar maple]

playing anything, hopefully

[potent jay]

essence drain contagion

[chilly creek]

Doing RF for the first time in SSF
Worth?

[tepid cape]

less than 3 hrs to go, no patch yet

expected?

[potent jay]

kinda but what can we do. They are trying their best

[tepid cape]

F, thanks

[gleaming zodiac]

Update is up on steam!!

[potent jay]

and on standalone

or atleast 50mb

of it

oh its checking

LETS GO

[lucid iris]

its up for me

[potent jay]

THE FLOODGATES ARE OPEN

for the patch*

[worn crow]

it is up ~4gb on standalone

[potent jay]

jup

[pulsar maple]

4gigaaas

[worn crow]

when is the queue going live?

[proper musk]

Prob an hour or less

[lone glade]

When we turn into exiles and zana comes home from getting milk.

[runic tide]

hes lying he just wants a faster queue

mash enter as hard as you can

[keen merlin]

When I decided to stop playing last league for some reason I uninstalled thinking the space would be nice. Now I'm paying the price.

[runic tide]

oof

[keen merlin]

I'm leaving my pc running with the download overnight.

[tired spindle]

can we get a ruthless chat channel? who can i ask for that?

[keen merlin]

Wouldn't it be more appropriate if ruthless players just scream into the void where noone can hear them?

Also does ruthless have trade or no?

[tired spindle]

yep it has trade

[keen merlin]

Hmm interesting

[tired spindle]

kind of need it when you get so few resources especially gems

[brittle river]

you take +4% expedition chance but skip extra suffix notable next to it?

i assume thats a mistake, i see no reason not to

[candid anchor]

trying to work out if i should go glass cannon for resolve

[livid apex]

extra suffix with high explosion aoe makes it much easier to brick encounters

[candid anchor]

if i do im likely going rogue exiles+torment+blight atlas for SSF

[livid apex]

ime

I don't target specific open-field maps

[candid anchor]

single target might be really strong in sanctum too in theory we'll have to see

[livid apex]

this is the full edition

[candid anchor]

the 40% less blight upgrade cost seems great for squishies

[livid apex]

+40% caches (huck accompanies)
+40% harvest (50% additional crop, 6% mob dupe, 10% lifeforce dupe)
+30% harbinger (100% additional currency shards)
+1 strongbox, strongboxes dupe currency and div cards
+6% general extra content
50% tier up, 8% quant, 15% rarity```

[brittle river]

i went full abyss

it looks juicy AF

QUEUE UP

1253 atm

[wild lark]

eyyy

[candid anchor]

4122

[stoic night]

i got 1338, so close

[candid anchor]

im probably going caustic arrow+temporal chains

but given its SSF swapping a lot

usually go ascendant in SSF to start off with just as its easy to swap from, not sure if im going regular occultist or just grabbing ascendant node

looking over atlas stuff to help make up my mind

i wonder if that huck is default huck or keeps your equipment

because that's a major major major difference

[sterile brook]

I'll suggest it to the mods and see what they think

[candid anchor]

speaking of ruthless, i get lower loot in atlas, but less map passives? oof

i think ruthless having no challenges is going to put a lot of people off trying it

i know they're getting them next league but they could have least put generic ones on e.g. reach 80 90 100 use currency

plus if people miss it the first time its up they'll be a ton less likely to try it the second time its up

also you'd think they'd want more people encouraged to test it

well, at least not massively disincentivised

nearly everyone in my friend group going for it was saying they'd try it after doing main league challenges too which tbh i think if ppl get frustrated enough to stop as per usual there they wont hop onto ruthless

[frigid jewel]

I was supposed to give ruthless a try but i always play ssf so, being support gems drop only, is very possible that i will never get what i need for a specific build. Item scarcity is a thing you can work around a bit, but if you need support gems to even enabling your build and they don't drop... So i was thinking to try ruthless but in trade system, or just the usual ssf

[hollow sigil]

Quick, EK Ignite Elementalist or CA Ballista Trickster for SSF?

[wind vale]

CA Ballista SOOOO much. Ek Ignite is going to be painful in SSF

[tired spindle]

27k in queue, boooo

[candid anchor]

i mean like with usual ssf you can always reroll character if something nice drops

[frigid jewel]

i wanna play a specific build...

[candid anchor]

this league is a weird one for that given you get untradeable relics

[strong estuary]

CA for ssf, ek ignite is insanely painful on ssf.. not a fun time

[candid anchor]

i kinda want to see how broken i can make occultist with the new blight nodes

given you can place twice as many towers etc

[bitter echo]

do i need to press 2keys with every trap build ?

i dont know if i should pick arc or Glacial Cascade

[wind vale]

Traps don't need to be detonated. Mines do.

[blazing sail]

does anyone know from past leagues if you can get in on the first day? i'm 35k on the queue

[lone glade]

aaaahhhhhhh!!! So hyped!

[harsh bone]

lol what do you mean? Everyone will be in within like 5 minutes

Maybe like 20 minutes max

[blazing sail]

i see ty

[strong estuary]

how does one find a guild btw

[harsh bone]

Yeah, the queue is pretty fast once we start getting in

[ocean sorrel]

What time does league go live?

[analog sail]

hoping it goes smooth for once

[harsh bone]

in 27 minutes

[ocean sorrel]

Wait it actually starts in 27 min lol?

[harsh bone]

Yeah, you can play in 27 minutes 😄

[ocean sorrel]

I figured it would be like in 2-3 hours haha

Leggo

[harsh bone]

Oh no, the queue has been up for more than 30 minutes now