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[timid flicker]

with some boxes or something as compensation

[light apex]

reset in a few weeks please

[sleek light]

"Still on this Discord", well i get news notifications here. 🤔

[light apex]

yes - content, nothing like a good does of tonedeafness to entertain for breakfast

[sleek light]

I'd just like an increase in map drops and alch drops without having to super juice my yellow tier maps. And restore harvest crafts. I'm not even extreme 🙃

[light apex]

ah yes the "fluff crafts" would be nice to have

[light apex]

yes this league will be a meme for the ages 🙂

[sleek light]

Nearly 10 years of PoE, a game that consists of patches. And it doesn't even get the basics down

[light apex]

nono - ggg just reverted almost a decade of loot creep in 1 patch

[sleek light]

Wasn't this supposed to be for the hard mode - less loot?

[nimble merlin]

[light apex]

hahaha

someone should make one of those for 3.19

95% less loot, random rares exceed tankyness of uberbosses

[nimble merlin]

Idc about loot coz im heist fan

3div today

[sleek light]

3.20: Door open time gets increased by 100%

[light apex]

nah man lets keep it in line with the "legacy quantity" of 3.19 nerfs "door open time increased by 3000%"

basically u can make a coffee and get a smoke break while door opens 🙂

[tropic bone]

Nah they are gonna release a map league mechanic to where doors can’t be opened

[light apex]

and just to be sure to nuke the loot completely "expedition monsters get a 5000% hp multiplier"

[sleek light]

Or the heist friendos can now simply die and escaping fails

[tropic bone]

I need to learn how to run heist it seems fun

[sleek light]

Depends. Walking back is tedious. Waiting at doors, sometimes getting oneshotted randomly by their special phalanx attacks.

[light apex]

i have heist ptsd from when it launched

[tropic bone]

I’m running totems so I could place them at the door and run

[hollow sigil]

Is there any reliable source of 6L in SSF this league?

(Non-corrupt)

[sleek light]

Always 6l cards farming?

[tropic bone]

One of the maps has the 6link crafting recipe

[light apex]

div cards probly fastest

the craft needs 1500 fues

fuses

[tropic bone]

Yes that’s true

[sleek light]

Or doing vaal side areas / corrupted strongboxes.

[light apex]

yeah just dont rely on corrupted fuses/jewlers anymore

those got effectively destroyed

[sleek light]

Ye, it's so weird. During Scourge they were fine, but now that they drop less they got nerfed.

[light apex]

yeah i dont even have tinfoil theories for what the F was going through GGGs minds to endup in this

[sleek light]

I'd love to see them doing one thing: Have each this Discord, Twitter and Reddit create their own 3.20 imaginary patch notes (excluding league content) and see how much these communities actually differ from each other and how they all differ from GGGs plans.

Especially people here have created a GGG shill and us vs them mentality, where all the silent majority people are supposed to be super happy with everything/or most. Yet where are the streamers celebrating this league over the previous?

[light apex]

i mean... 3.19 managed to overshadow even the most skeptical speculations on it.. 🙂

personally i would consider that an impressive achievement given how negative social media can be

[sleek light]

I guess PoE is a game that alone playing it makes you feel elitist. And it has a great frust potential. And every new league you want to improve yourself over the last, but actually it gets always harder to do so xD

[wild prawn]

To be fair, the latest two patches made mapping at least working

Now they need to re-add the harvest recipes they removed and im happy with the league

[sleek light]

Ye, or add them to the normal crafting bench if they just hate having harvest

[light apex]

deterministic crafting? nah man thats not the willsonvision, gotta grind for a 3-7 days to afford one attempt at crafting a gear piece with little to no chance for succces

[sleek light]

I haven't crafted since an eternity. I count myself as generally unlucky and use the market with the currency i farmed. Bad thing tho if all the crafters are gone.... 🤡

[light apex]

true, not much trickle down in budget good gear

since crafting it is lets say questionable at best

[gritty heath]

Crafting existed before harvest, what are people talking about?

[fossil fulcrum]

sooo, will we get it today or nah

[grand acorn]

It's 11am in NZ. They gots time.

[sleek light]

Beta 0.9 existed before, doesn't mean we need to cut content down to get back into the stone age

[fossil fulcrum]

they removed 2 very important crafts that locked suffixes, without them it became like it was before metacrafting...a huge gambling machine, so making items is way more costy and harder now

its a big step back imo

[gritty heath]

Did they? Metacrafting is still on the bench

[cobalt falcon]

cannot change pref ,reforge

yea costly

[cobalt rivet]

is loot fixed?

[narrow canyon]

If you find something like Solaris-Touched mob and have very high Rarity, sure. Don't expect it to stay though.

[violet nymph]

Is it possible to have specifics on why everyone is angry and leaving PoE?

[tawny pasture]

people read reddit without testing stuff themself

so they leave cuz other leave

[narrow canyon]

Certain people having different problems. Harder mobs, less rewarding loot, minions gutted, the League mechanic feeling underwhelming/unrewarding, Kalandra not really doing anything/kind of underwhelming reveal who Kalandra is/what she does...

[proper widget]

basically the same story every league

im in act 3 right now and feel like im getting ok loot

the league mechanic will probably get buffed in a week

i think they basically reworked loot rarity and need to change numbers for a while

[narrow canyon]

If it's to actually be believed, loot drop rates on mobs were nerfed overall pretty substantially, with the intended function that it would end up being something like: Lesser drop amounts, higher and more interesting loot rarity.

But I'm actually kind of personally tired of seeing new and interesting Leagues, and then they needing to buff the loot, or nerf the mobs, etc. It's practically a running gag at this point. xD

[jovial siren]

Is this common in the beginning of leagues. This only my second season

[narrow canyon]

What specifically are you asking if it's common?

[jovial siren]

I'm enjoying it. I don't know any better. Don't have any alchs though. I just sell for alchs now instead of chaos fir a lot of stuff

There being issues first couple weeks that they patch out

People complaining

[humble crane]

Not as major as this

Last leagues mid game is this leagues end game

[narrow canyon]

Oh. Generally speaking there are some issues that get hammered out, yeah. And some people may complain, but they still play, because overall there's other league mechanics that've "gone core" (meaning they stay in the game to be enjoyed) that they can play still and still enjoy playing.

But this League, a looooot of people have stopped playing already.

[jovial siren]

I stopped doing the lake. Seemed like a waste of time

[humble crane]

On average I made more than double just mapping

[jovial siren]

Or running a couple heists here and there

[humble crane]

Not exactly excited for new leagues to be staring at heist doors

[jovial siren]

Hard to notice for me I guess I'm better this season and I'm doing better than being if last season so idk

[narrow canyon]

If you want to know my personally unfavorited League that was introduced, it was Beastiary. Imagine Archnemesis rares right now, but years ago. That was certain red mob Beastiary monsters. Neigh unkillable. Stronger than like 4 Shapers put together... It was nuts sometimes. Certain mobs were just auto-skip because it wasn't worth the hassle.

[jovial siren]

I planed on farming breachstones but they are not as valuable as last season and kind if pain with the syndicate

[humble crane]

Meh it's hard to even trade considering more than half the players have quit already

[narrow canyon]

Right now, people are just hyper boosting rarity and quantity and hunting certain monster modifiers that turn all drops in to currencies.

[proper widget]

its become semi common since PoE2 was announced, the patches are getting really rework-heavy and basically beta for poe2

[narrow canyon]

In all honesty, it'll probably be removed in a week.

[jovial siren]

That's what I was afraid of. Wondering what player is gonna be getting all the gear my broke ass can buy. I'm having a hard time moving up to better gear without being extremely expensive because there is only a few items available

[proper widget]

thats not because of players leaving

[humble crane]

Well look at it this way

[proper widget]

they substantially reduced rare item drops

[humble crane]

I'm at like 94 or 95 now

[proper widget]

and made mid-tier rare items extremely worth buying

[jovial siren]

And crafting took a hit too right

[proper widget]

so the entire item market is going to suffer a drought

[humble crane]

and there is no incentive to even upgrade my gear considering juiced maps drop the same loot 1 heist does

[jovial siren]

Hmm

[humble crane]

On day 1 i specced into beyond just to farm some tainted currency only to discover

[narrow canyon]

Not to mention crafters aren't going to be able to make similar T0 rare crafted items anymore. They'll be T1-T2 at best.

[proper widget]

id say in typical ggg fashion they changed too much too fast, 3 months to cook is rough

[humble crane]

like almost everything else the currency has been shadow nerfed to nothing

[narrow canyon]

So there's less incentive for the GG crafters to craft rare items.

[proper widget]

i mean theres also less incentive cuz any shmuck is going to ex slam their gear

essence spamming an item for 3 good mods then slamming it costs less than 100c

[humble crane]

The divine change isnt that bad tbh

[narrow canyon]

That's kind of what GGG wants you to do though... Exalt Slam.

[humble crane]

the only issue is harbringers dont drop div shards

and there is only 1 card

so your only decent way to farm divines is using the heist trinket

[proper widget]

the divine change is a buff for base-crafting lol, exalts are usable now

[narrow canyon]

It's why they made the dumb change of Exalts to be more common, Divines to be more rare. And also tried changing the economy by extension from Chaos/Exalt to Chaos/Divine

[proper widget]

previously in ssf u hoarded 4 ex to metacraft smth

and had 0 use for divines in practice

[humble crane]

Min maxing is something you wouldnt even see empyrean do nowadays

[narrow canyon]

Divines were already super rare for somebody like me who plays very casually. I'd maybe find 15 Exalts a League, and 2 Divines.

[humble crane]

Just a shame shit like shako builds are completely gone now

[jovial siren]

I only ended up with 4 divine end of last season

[narrow canyon]

If he did, at current crafting methods that exist now thanks to the Harvest nerf, he'd be spending probably 10x more currency to make a halfway decent mirror item than last league.

[proper widget]

uh

last league you had recombinators which were the single best crafting item

[narrow canyon]

Sorry no not last league, league before.

[proper widget]

ok then how about 5 leagues ago, or 8

leagues being really good or bad for specific things is always up in the air

[jovial siren]

I made lots of cash farming recombinators. I was so pumped to have a similar experience this season. It is different. I'm still having fun but I am broke no doubt. Trying to figure out what to do.

[narrow canyon]

Because now you have to do things like Annul, hope it hits, and if it didn't, hope you had a beast craft to save the item unless you're fine bricking investments. And even then, you're going to be spending multiple exalts worth of Alts/Augs in order to hit certain mods now (like minion level on bone helm, loooool.)

[humble crane]

Feels like they want to make the average player play twice as long for every league if these loot changes dont change

[proper widget]

its ok next league they will bring some crafting thing

and everybody will have some other issue

[narrow canyon]

I doubt it.

They MASSIVELY regret doing Harvest because it made crafting "too easy".

In reality, it made crafting actually meaningful.

[proper widget]

recombinators?

did everybody forget how good recombinators are for crafting

[narrow canyon]

I thought you were maybe meaning some kind of new crafting rework, like how Harvest was.

[proper widget]

that was like 2 weeks ago

well the crafting rework will be closer to poe2

random crafting things and shakeups happen all the time

[humble crane]

The harvest changes werent exactly horrible for early game

since it was way too quick to get decent gear very quickly into a new league just harvesting

but the later game changes to the actual crafts

[proper widget]

the new implicit system seems really good for gearing as well, i havent played with it yet

[humble crane]

have made harvest an f tier mechanic

[proper widget]

the item editor version of harvest had the most obtuse garbage setup i straight up skipped that league

idk how thats supposed to be more fun than stuff like implicits or item combination

[humble crane]

Anyway with every positive change they added 2 negatives

[proper widget]

id rather ggg keep trying stuff than add item editors

[narrow canyon]

I'm saddened the most to hear that minions are getting deleted in T16 maps. 😭

I was intending to do Ice Golems, or Carrion Golems. But tbph, if an AG is getting deleted, Golems are going to get deleted.

So now I am just going to do Lancing Steel again. For like the 4th League that I've played on/off.

[proper widget]

idk if i believe minions suck

most peopel dont know that theres minion defense clusters on the tree

[narrow canyon]

There is, but it's never really been a requirement before. Typically just boosting their health, % health recovery, resistances and physical defense was enough. I've heard a little bit that SRS is back on the menu, because other minions are just bad now. SRS is only back when other minions suck, because SRS is just constantly being resummoned anyway. xD

[humble crane]

Minions are awful

would not recommend to even try until any actual positive patch notes are released

[narrow canyon]

I even heard Spectres are trash now @humble crane Yay/nay?

[humble crane]

All minion builds are

[narrow canyon]

😭

[tawny pasture]

AW and srs are still pretty good

[humble crane]

The numbers dont add up to be viable at end game

[narrow canyon]

Did they remove Necro +2 minion gems level ascendency?

I saw some video with that as a thumbnail

[humble crane]

Actually nvm I take that back. Considering there is no end game now they are very viable

[narrow canyon]

xD

I actually like Lancing Steel though, so it's not that big of a deal to me. I kind of wish you could make the pre-nerf explodey chests though still. I want to use one instead of a Lioneye's.

[gritty heath]

I don't agree with everyone being so upset about the Harvest changes. The game was great without Harvest too, it's not the end of the day. The community sucks too: if you make harvest non-tradeable currency then people will complain about TFT and how it sucks, if you make it tradeable than rich players will get infinitely richer very quickly no matter how expensive the crafts are. I would prefer if they somehow just made harvest crafted items account bound, but that's the last thing they want to do so there's that.

In fact making a lot of things account bound would solve so many issues, but GGG thinks everything is tradeable is better for the game

[humble crane]

The issue with harvest isnt the trading of the plant shit

its the fact that they nerfed the majority of useful crafts

and removed the most desirable ones

not interacting with tft is the positive

[proper widget]

in exchange they made harvest playable, so whats the problem

[humble crane]

The only way I see myself using harvest

[proper widget]

maybe they cant make the game good for everyone at the same time

[humble crane]

is like metacrafting

The reforge crafts are not the same ones you had in the past

its just 1 guaranteed mod type and the rest are random

[proper widget]

its a little bit like rebalancing exalts to be 10c, the more casual players can interact with it now

[humble crane]

the exalt change

isnt a bad thing

but the negative is

they made mechanics like harbringer

absolutely awful

[proper widget]

what? harby drops the same stuff

[humble crane]

nothing like getting 1c in exalt shards

[proper widget]

yeah i dont see how market prices affect the gameplay value of it

i go harby every league for horizon orbs

and ancients

the exalts and mirror shards were a MEME

ur version of the game sounds awful tbh

[humble crane]

the exalt shards usually paid for the scarabs

now the scarab is probably like 1c since it has such little value

[proper widget]

atlas tree lets me disable scarabs without losing value :O

[pearl iris]

I love how everyone is kicking and screaming in to the void on a non stop kid rage while i am just singing while i farm shitloads of loots with a build that is fun to play in a fun league mechanic 😄

[ornate shuttle]

wow, did he just say sorry?

[tawny pasture]

yeah , its ggg

[pliant estuary]

I don't get more or less loot than before but I'm fine!

[pearl iris]

I doubt its the free 30/30 quant/rarity im getting from atlas tree but i have been getting loot just fine all this time

[ornate shuttle]

nah I can't take his words about big league rewards seriously when it looks like this all the time

[uncut vortex]

A single legion chest during the legion league was better than this

[ornate shuttle]

way better

[uncut vortex]

This is like atziri’s vault level of loot

I feel like I’m just opening common chest and barrels

[ornate shuttle]

exactly

and at the same time the monsters are insane

it's funny when blue mobs on higher difficulties are harder than the unique one lmao

[pearl iris]

that sounds like l2p issue :D:D:D

[ornate shuttle]

oh yeah I must lack the vision

[rocky nebula]

You simply have not bought enough supporter packs to earn the luck to get a rare with innocence touched kitava touched lunaris touched solaris touched shakari touched mods

[ornate shuttle]

I threw out like 500$ on this game, how much more...

and I did actually find a similar rare

it gave me 2 alchs

but yeach Chris knows people that make mirrors a day so it must be fine

[gritty heath]

So what do you y'all use Exalts for now?

[gritty heath]

League is poop but overall drops outside of it are not so bad now, just can't juice with beyond

[ornate shuttle]

yeah it aint as bad as it was

just...

weird

it feels weird

also for like 4th league I feel like atlas passives dont always work

[midnight pollen]

Does anyone have the image that shows strategy for how to plan your lake tablet?

[balmy nexus]

Im doing pretty good

80c ish per hour

More with some good drops

Just alching red maps

Missing 2 bosses for watchstone until i can start sextanting

My friend is making some juicy profits from sextant kirac mod and scarabs

[gritty heath]

Well yeah compared with 5 ex per hour last league with just sentinels it's not much

I hate this system where rares drop nothing for 50 maps, then suddenly you encounter a *-touched mob and it drops 50 of everything. Why can't all rare mobs drop something useful. Even a pity token

Well actually that's the top comment on reddit anyway 😄

[misty fern]

^ yea, its kinda shitty to never get anything and then just get randomly 20 random shitty jewels dropped, like yea its easier for collecting but its shit

[gritty heath]

I got 30 scarabs just now. But it's funny that most of my currency is from expedition and rituals

[graceful quiver]

after no lifing the game since the start of the league I've finally encountered first Solaris-touched AN in a lvl:83 lake (got the 1st achievment for killing it) and all it dropped was 1 (one) alchemy orb and 3 rare amulets. So even after encountering it you can get basically nothing

[misty fern]

thats depressing....

[native shoal]

iso multi mod craft recipe if anyone comes accross it

[livid lake]

its in the putrid cloister map

[drifting sequoia]

all these no life sweatlords crying about loot

meanwhile i'm rich

https://tenor.com/view/vitalik-gif-21354236

[delicate sluice]

Lool

[cobalt falcon]

lel

[rose pasture]

After todays philosophy lesson, this this just cool looking stuff, owo owo:

[ebon birch]

that thing is unkillable -.-

[violet nymph]

WELCOME TO ARCHNEMESIS

[ebon birch]

It's so damn enjoying
even Archnemesis league was easier

Like much easier

[quiet moss]

GGG will soon start saying git gud lol

[rose pasture]

lol

Ivory tower philosophers! 😆

Just git good at writing texts!

[idle wharf]

Im quitting this game. Im not even kidding, i never thought i would say that but... They quadruple down.... Why? This doesnt make any sense, why would they do that

[stuck horizon]

I was thinking mayb kalandra map might useful as silver piece pixel art -..-
theres no currency that Silver/grey color right ?

[dull pewter]

Diablo 3 new season starts in 12 hours lol sooo atleast we cam play a better game now xd

[stuck horizon]

Oops just notice jeweller orb (/- -)/

[dull pewter]

Its sad i even said rhat but st this point its true

[gritty heath]

Got to level 92 and just so bored with this league. Half the content is pointless to run, progression is insanely slow. Chris says it's almost the same for an average player but it's definitely not. Feels like loot is cut and half. And I am only doing heist, expedition and blight. Bad league all around. Lake is actually cool, if they just made it drop what it would drop last league that would be amazing. Today fighting uber mobs to get 2 alchs is a total joke.

[surreal flame]

i'm leveling only with shield charge, using,faster atks,maim,lifetap, you know any other link that would be good with it?

[vapid geyser]

Tbf, you saw upfront it had five essences and empowered elements.

[dusty cove]

Ggg we want to make players not having to use discord. Mean while on tft people now selling an mobs culling service 🤦

[dry quarry]

Is diablo 3 free?

[dusty cove]

It sorta was if you played when rmah was a thing

[dry quarry]

ohh

[tacit frigate]

Anyone got a strong build? Can't kill it... Prox shield doesn't do me any favors either

[foggy moth]

I know many are taking a break from this league, so finding videos or guides and such are a bit more sparse.

Does anyone have a decent list for Lake modifiers you want to look for, even when on low maps?

[tacit frigate]

@foggy moth Heard the elemental ones are decent on lower/mid maps, because most of the times the league specific ones are underwhelming

[dusty cove]

Grimroe got a list

[foggy moth]

Ah cool! I will find his

All I keep finding is 3.19 suxxx vids lol

[foggy moth]

The ones that have lightning / flames / etc are the elemental ones, yes?

[tacit frigate]

yeah those are the ones, gotta be carefull with the ones with notches though because they can get quite deadly if theyre far away and you're not that tanky

to me anyways

[foggy moth]

Cool that makes sense.

[thorny pond]

For about 3 hours and you’ve done everything

[fathom wedge]

Hi guys, anyone at the moment have completed the 14 challengues for the league that can share with me a screenshot of full the t1 cosmétic set :d

[dull pewter]

@thorny pond its not free but there is 1000000000 mtx on it so makes up for the stash tabs u need to buy. Also at this poibt in poe its better lol

[thorny pond]

I’ve been playing this league since launch. It’s been rough at the beginning but it’s great now. Getting plenty of currency just alch and go. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[woeful umbra]

F this league

Bye bye

Buffed drops they say.... T11 drops

[queen knoll]

Yep, it drop, nothing but trash

[plush sinew]

How Can you say it's trash dude ?? It's like 2 and a half alternation orb Amazing !

[barren crescent]

ya ppl expecting every diff 2+ node to drop stack of divines or what?

armor/weapon drops have always been carbage once you stop ID'ing the loot

[sweet shell]

2nd divine in a row are the drops too generous or am i just lucky haha

[grand maple]

any of these worth anything?

[pearl iris]

herald is okish

useful at least

[grand maple]

which base is the best for it?

[pearl iris]

id go with bone helm

If it was herald of agony, then the holy relic unique helm would be nice for a build i love

[grand maple]

ah just realised only good helm I have is devotos devotion

probably gonna go with blink arrow then ;/

[pearl iris]

blade trap also sounds nice but i dont know anyone who plays that shit 😄

[slender temple]

how do i counter this bs. i just been kiting and trying to notice when monster jumps on me and starts spawning htem

if i freeze them i guess?

guess i can do a conversion ;o

[lilac saffron]

Arent those mirages

[slender temple]

yes

i mean

freezing the caster

[barren crescent]

They spawn when the rare is hit

[slender temple]

if i freeze the rare does it stop them from spwaning?

[brave swift]

is league fixed or not yet?

[slender temple]

deepnds on perspective. im enjoying it so far

[violet nymph]

If by fixed you mean playable, no it is not and it's unlikely to be given they just keep doubling down. Best to just wait to see if any meaningful changes occur.

[brave swift]

ah rip was hoping to play this league, guess i'll side line this one until things change then

[terse aspen]

have to share this flask i rolled with alterations

[violet nymph]

is there any place where i could ask for spectre? I'm looking for Ancient Suffering

[lime flicker]

Did you try /global 666 or 6666 ? used to be one

looks more like 6666 after a quick check, but not sure if it is still alive

[fickle wind]

Im fuckin done with the poe reddit lol. Definitely not good for my mental state.

Gonna start the league once I dl the client.

[fervent lily]

💪

[glass totem]

we getting another patch today?

[lime flicker]

I think next one is Monday

[fickle wind]

According to that Bex person, yes. Monday.

[gloomy tapir]

Good. Will enjoy d3 season then

[pseudo pilot]

Yeah I’m gonna try D3 out cause I can’t even sustain Alcs or bindings to push atlas completion

It’s ridiculous

[obtuse bobcat]

Just play heist, kappa

[pseudo pilot]

Yeah lol or let me install a 3rd party software to then hire a TFT culler kekw

Nice vision GGG

[patent ridge]

I earned more in 5 maps of heist than I have in 30maps

[pseudo pilot]

I got Uber lucky and dropped a divine in act 9 and that carried my character prog super hard

But after that it’s just gotten harder and harder to sustain

Even when I’m blasting maps with no difficulty

[tawny pasture]

why arent you making your own opinion ?

[idle wharf]

@tawny pasture why arent you sucking a dick?

[silent jay]

more ppl struggling with alchemys ? lol

[pearl iris]

Lmao if you are still struggling, it might actually be best to just be quit and fade out quietly instead of kicking and screaming when you just dont have the skills needed to alch n go 😄

[silent jay]

had a bad night lol? I asked a simple question

[tawny pasture]

just pick some rare item and sell them for alch at npc

[silent jay]

You rlly wanna do that when doing red maps?

[tawny pasture]

if you are struggling getting alch ?

yeah 100%

[silent jay]

every past league, they just came plenty without

[pearl iris]

Or you can just ignore the drops and yell in forums/discord 😄

[fickle wind]

or reddit

[pearl iris]

"fucking shit game, first mob of every map doesnt drop 250% of the spend currency, FUCKING UNPLAYABLE I HAVE TO PICK UP LOOT!!"

[tawny pasture]

there is plenty way to get alch , if you ignore them , cant be mad

[silent jay]

god haatsku... your such a drama queen

[pearl iris]

Sure dude 😄

[silent jay]

I wasn't complaining, I asked a simple question

[tawny pasture]

i dont have issue with alch , cuz im doing what i should to get em

[pearl iris]

No one who knows how to play the game has a problem sustaining their shit tbh

[wooden anchor]

This is too much xD. Tt insta-nukes out of window sight.

[pearl iris]

Looks like free currency.jpg 😄

kinda lackluster due to the wailings tho

[wooden anchor]

just need to insta-nuke on appearing. but I lack of dps, I guess. only 3mil uber dps on pob

[fickle wind]

Are face breakers a good league starter? Might use them.

oops theres a help section nvm

[fervent lily]

always have been

[valid reef]

(Still having fun here at 50k or so, but then I'm more-or-less SSF except the Bitterdream; someday I might actually try to do the endgame bosses, but for now still just unlocking a couple maps a night after the day job)

[pearl iris]

Exactly same as me. It seems like this league is only playable for casuals. Everyone is kicking and screaming about the game being 100% unplayble and how GGG 100% ruined the game. While casuals are just singing as they proceed further and further without any effort

[fervent lily]

leagues great, i dont see the reason for all the hate bought muh kirac pass, 80/115 already, doing great

[fickle wind]

I felt the hate was justified initially. But holy shit is it getting... heated... in some places.

[pearl iris]

Only problem was before the first patch, right after it i have had 0% problems sustaining or progressing. Feels really great

And they have buffed shit multiple times after that making my gains stupid high

Only have few hours to play each day, but everyday i log out with far more maps and currency, even tho i have bought new upgrade gear every single day...

[coarse sedge]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[valid reef]

I mean, even with those I don't really mind except in the moment - the really tough stuff is there to show you how much further you can climb, and it's mostly not blocking progression (i.e., they're not map bosses, you can just park them without losing the unlock).

[solar grove]

lol, neversink loot filter hid these

guess I should lower the strictness...

[fervent lily]

ouch

[solar grove]

I wonder if somebody will figure out some tech to bypass the cooldown

[tiny sandal]

even at semistrict some of the worse div cards are filtered too which is fair enough but me no like

[pearl iris]

Very strict with "slight" modding to make it work for myself ❤️

[gritty sierra]

quest exarch

[pearl iris]

I just keep filterblade open on my 2nd monitor and if i see something i dont want to pick up, i modify the filter on the fly and update it with 1 button

But then again i usually play such a zoom zoom build that i only want to see what i want to pick up

and after killing the map boss i just press alt and fill my inventory with random rares to vendor off before heading to next map

excuse moi wtf

[fervent lily]

give it to empy for his meme muse- oh wait

[pearl iris]

if you could craft the 4sec cd cast on action thingy on that, it would be actually pretty sick minion weapon 😄

[split widget]

Not only is the loot nerfed, even the expeditions are tiny

I covered everything in just 4 charges, the fifth was just for show

[ebon birch]

I think harvest is still shit or I am doing something wrong :x

[visual grotto]

ok so i have about a 100 c ish, and some items for sale worth about 50 to 200, im using srs popcorn and have invested nothing into it really. It feels pertty bad , has great single target and i can tell will scale pretty easy. But i dont like have to constantly buff with bone armour for my block and i have no surpression

What build is strong this league for the mirrors and bossing that can be pretty easily scaled , more ffocussing on bosses than map speed here, and dont want to invest a shit load , id like o be able to invest in it slowly over th league eventually pushing it high over time

The only thing ive come across is rf which is SLOW AF

[split widget]

I've heard good things about physical golems, but do research before you try

[visual grotto]

phys golems?

i dont even konw that build wtf lol

[split widget]

Yeah, stone golem and that other one, the spike one. dont remeber the name

[bright rune]

It might also be worth searching for the trigger craft for bone armor if you’re finding that tedious

[visual grotto]

yeah im supposed to be using a trigger wand, but ill need to use trigger for des/bone and in that case trigger wand you have to attack with right?

so ill be constnatly attacked to refresh?

[bright rune]

Summon raging spirits

There is a weapon trigger craft that activates on skills usage that most minion players use

[visual grotto]

oooohhhh shit so the trigger , im just wrong about

damn im dumb

dont know how i missed that one sound rad

[bright rune]

So you summon a spirit and it will do desecrate bone block for you in that order if you have the order of the sockets as green and blue

It’s a reward from the syndicate reveal so it’s not intuitively known

[visual grotto]

does it have a cooldown?

spells trigger with an 8 second cd i have that already

is that the one?

[bright rune]

That’s it

Iirc

[visual grotto]

holy shit, and 8 sec is as good as it gets?

lirc?

[bright rune]

If I recall correctly just an abbreviation

8 seconds should synchronize wel with bone ward

[visual grotto]

fucking sweet man than you so much that will make this so much better

worth investing in lol

that was really the deal breaker it was juts too much clicking for itconstaly spamming shit

it feels like a delay self cast cry character gith now

[bright rune]

No problem! I completely understand given how much summon raging spirits is already spammy lol

[visual grotto]

ugh yeah

is there any way to get some surpression wen you path a lot on the left and top of the tree?

seems like you gotta wastee like 20 points to get to any

any items or clusters?

i should say while being armour based of course

[bright rune]

I’m assuming you pathed to the top left for the spectre bonus?

[visual grotto]

yes

[bright rune]

Can you share your tree?

[visual grotto]

fuck i forgot how

[bright rune]

What a lot of people do is eat not having that spectre early

[visual grotto]

one sec

[bright rune]

Actually are you using a guide?

You don’t have to follow it completely

But it can be helpful to see how others problem solved what you’re experiencing

Lots of people dodge the top left area all together and use an amulet anniontment to get the extra bonus from that passive for example

[visual grotto]

ok i cant eremmber how to post this

https://pastebin.com/DHKjbfhh

i know theres a way to show my characer sheet

but just dont mrembe commands

!pob https://pastebin.com/DHKjbfhh

[rigid lake]

Summon Raging Spirit - Necromancer (Lvl: 95) by: Unfaithful

Defenses

EHP: 38,811
Max Hit + Resists:
:drop_of_blood: 10,518 (29%)
:fire: 8,391 (19%)
:snowflake: 8,391 (19%)
:zap: 8,391 (19%)
Life: 5,259 (115%) | Reg: 469/s (8.9%)
Mana: 32/1,028 (28%) | Reg: 30/s (2.9%)

Secondary Defense

Secondary: Block: 75% | Spell Block: 75%
Attributes: Str: 84 Int: 327 Dex: 34
Keystones: Minion Instability, Eldritch Battery

Full DPS

Combined DPS: 4,872,498
Sources: Summon Raging Spirit × 4

Skill

Summon Raging Spirit (21/20%) + Anomalous Unleash (20/23%) + Elemental Focus (20/23%) + Predator (20/23%)
(+ Concentrated Effect (20) + Minion Life (20) + Hypothermia (20) from: End Game - Minion Helmet)

Configuration

Enemy: Boss: Uber, Fire Exposure, Deathmarked, EE (Light), Ignited
Player: Nearby Enemies: 1, Summoned Minions: 10
Playerrecently: Killed, Used Minion Skill, Cast
Playerskill: Feeding Frenzy

Info:

Build Link | Web Tree | Web PoB | Click to open in POB.
Created in Path of Building: Community Fork.

[visual grotto]

ha remmbered it

as said build is still trash

wait wtf wrong build dude

srry i dont know wtf

[bright rune]

Dw lol technical errors happen

[visual grotto]

!pob https://pastebin.com/nRhTvkV2

[rigid lake]

Clarity - Necromancer (Lvl: 79) by: Unfaithful

Defenses

EHP: 27,093
Max Hit + Resists:
:drop_of_blood: 7,562 (16%)
:fire: 10,952 (50%)
:snowflake: 19,248 (75%)
:zap: 19,248 (75%)
Life: 3,227 (120%) | Reg: 474/s (14.7%)
Mana: 385/1,080 (28%) | Reg: 62/s (5.7%)

Secondary Defense

Secondary: Spell Block: 56%
Attributes: Str: 200 Int: 317 Dex: 72
Keystones: Minion Instability

Skill

Clarity + Convocation + Flammability

Configuration

Enemy: Boss: Uber, Fire Exposure, EE (Light), Ignited
Player: Nearby Enemies: 1, Summoned Minions: 10
Playerrecently: Killed, Used Minion Skill, Cast

Info:

Build Link | Web Tree | Web PoB | Click to open in POB.
Created in Path of Building: Community Fork.

[visual grotto]

theres my garbage

lol

[bright rune]

So I can’t see because I’m on my phone

I’m dumb

[visual grotto]

lolol

well i pathed to the left to get the minion damge and life nodes itn eh big wheel , then up to ge the spell blocka nd specres

then down for teh shield nodes near glancing

so im right next to a cluster area , bacasiaclly just filing in stuff until i can get a good clsuter now

i can only see 7 poits for instinct wheel which only give me 17 % suppresion

[bright rune]

I think you patched right initially right

You could refund passive points and path left to get to higher passives with less investment

I’ll be home in like an hour I can probably say more then lol

[jaunty lantern]

Could someone help me with my skeleton mage build on MinionMasterTaric? https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/IDonKnow/characters it seems a bit low on the dps side and i do still get one shot here n there so any advice on how to improve would be appreciated. If someone has some advice for improving my skeleton mages build in 3.19 please just whisper me.

[visual grotto]

you only path to instability, everything after that is up and left all the minions nodes are over there, but all te suppression to the right and down its basically opposite ends wehre the stuff is XD

[bright rune]

even if you want instability which idk if you value with summon raging spirit you might be able so save some points one second

reee

https://poe.ninja/pob/Ebh this semi works

@visual grotto you could path like this to give yourself more points and flexibility

if you really want to keep instability

also you can save points by

changing up to this

[scarlet shell]

Just dropped my first divine orb of the league off a random mob in act 9

[glass totem]

anyone else's client really unstable after the last patch?

[abstract pelican]

Is there general faq on kalandra mechanics? Haven’t found answers on wiki page

[tawny pasture]

look at grimro

[zenith trellis]

mine has started heavily microstuttering since yesterday out of nowhere

you?

[glass totem]

i've just been getting no error crashes to desktop

from the login screen and changing zones

[zenith trellis]

i see, i have not had that, just the microstuttering

[glass totem]

i was having that a bunch in the beginning of the league*, make sure it didnt set your network type to auto

[zenith trellis]

network type to auto?

[glass totem]

yeah networking mode

its under game

[glass totem]

thats not it then

[zenith trellis]

for some reason nvidia's 516.94 driver keeps failing to install for me maybe thats the issue

[glass totem]

that could be it

[hollow sigil]

Does Residence no longer drop Dapper Prodigy? I've been farming for two days and haven't seen one yet

[glass totem]

are they juiced?

[hollow sigil]

Yes with Eater + Shaper/Harbinger/Divination scarabs

[glass totem]

rip

poe db says it does

[polar sierra]

We still madge ladss?

[glass totem]

leagues been fine stay off of reddit

[zenith trellis]

@glass totem did u try running the packcheck.exe in the PoE folder?

for ur crashes

[glass totem]

good idea

[errant quiver]

Lowest retention ever = been fine

[hollow sigil]

Yeah you can pretty clearly tell loot is fucked in SSF, unless you're ZDPSing through acts

[tawny pasture]

part of the low retention is people readding reddit and not even trying the game themself

[livid apex]

Game's fine if your atlas strat is finetuned to counteract the nerfs

[tribal hawk]

Stop defending this shit, game is ass right now. Go back to d2

[tawny pasture]

game aint ass

[livid apex]

leaning heavy into shit that doesn't care about mob drops, like expedition

[glass totem]

its not great, but its fine

[eager charm]

Stop trying to start fights

[livid apex]

game is especially fine if your build works great with zero gear

or easy to buy uniques

[tawny pasture]

so league starter ?

[livid apex]

p much yeah

the game state is definitely hosed compared to last league but it's not impossible to have fun

I'm still on a 4 link and I'm blasting through red maps with 7.8k ehp at 83

[errant quiver]

Yea that sounds about right

[glass totem]

I'm having fun, i dont know what these dweebs are having melt downs about on reddit

[livid apex]

reddit is (generally) not overreacting this time

harvest is dead and high end currency drops center EXCLUSIVELY around finding the most busted archnem mod combo and culling it

[tribal hawk]

sToP tRyINg To StArt fIGhts

[glass totem]

that wasnt even me lol

[tribal hawk]

I know

[glass totem]

??

[livid apex]

hah

right as I say still on a 4-link

chest 5-links

[tribal hawk]

I don't know what to do honestly, I want to play the game but I just don't know man. Is EA Ele good for blight? Is blight even worth it with the loot drops? Is there even anything on trade to BUY

[livid apex]

Blight maps still feel decent

Since the rewards are from containers

[tawny pasture]

plenty item to buy on trade site

[glass totem]

HC trade does look slim though

[tawny pasture]

as always

most HC player play ssf

[glass totem]

thats true

[velvet tinsel]

omg Izaro=Kalandra confirmed!!!!1111

[mild arch]

How hard 16 diff of Lake of Kalandra? Just got 16 tier diff and i think i can't do it by myself

[terse aspen]

yes

[golden niche]

Izaro for best sugar daddy of all time. I'd listen to him patiently lecture me in his torture dungeon any day.

[unique kelp]

Is anyone else getting infinite loading screens? been trying to do lab and it keeps doing this after izaro

[pliant estuary]

So if we don't have a mf culler while (finally) finding a touched rare are we fked to have bad loot?

[hasty perch]

Nah you just get less divine exalts

[gritty heath]

Game is literally only playable if you are doing legion, expedition or heist (or maybe blight, but with uber rares its super difficult compared to others). The rest of the game content might as well not exist right now

[twilit turtle]

Do blight if you like it otherwise not really worth it

[kindred nest]

What currency people are using to buy maps?

Like lower tier. 1-5?

[gleaming zodiac]

chaos, it's easier to buy/sell on in game trade in packs like idk 50 maps for 20c or something like that 🤷‍♂️

[gritty heath]

I just realised the issue with item drops is also that it makes stash tabs unnecessary since there is so few loot 😄

[ember sentinel]

I did a harvest and none of the plots dropped anything at all. I even turned off my loot filter. Anyone else have this issue?

[gritty heath]

I had only 1 out of 4 drop, but never nothing at all

[hollow sigil]

Is anyone actually enjoying this league mechanic? It's insanely rippy at high difficulty and the rewards are garbage

[gritty heath]

No, the only people left playing are those that enjoy heist, expedition or legion farming

League is pretty much standard by now

[olive bear]

How's Heist and Expedition compared to mapping now?

[covert sage]

GOD Tier: Tujen

[sweet shell]

what are the good league mechs atm ?

how bout delve

haha

[south moat]

how to farm currency in the future in 3 steps.
step 1 make a unkillable 100kdps character.
step 2 in red maps always take quant/rarity shrines
step 3 see a lunaris call in a MAgic fins cull party
step 4 spend your half of the divines on new gear to finally enjoy the game

the average player wont see that many divines an entire league or 2 or 3 xD

yurp

not rlly a game at this point its just hunt the touched and call in the ghost busters

true quin is praising this league even tho he is ssf 🤓

funnily the fix is easily comical just write in the code that not more then 2-4 divine can drop from any 1 mob the rest gets converted down

and with over 100% rarity on ur gear ur guranteed 1 divine from solo touched mobs

[gloomy tapir]

Pretty sure the code is written like when you play the game, the google randomizer is being runner in the background

[sweet shell]

i found 2 divines yesterday and the day before

pure luck i guess

both came from lake

[ivory maple]

yeah it's mostly silly hyperbole, you can play just fine without any of those things. Just the minmaxers adapt the way they farm, doesn't mean that as a normal player you need to call in MF teams or some nonsense

[violet nymph]

What is everyone on about this league?

I complain about things like attacks or spells or the occasional bullshit 1 shot.

But people are on about harvest and not enough currency and it's unrewarding and so on..

I went to standard and jumped on my sentinel character. It's really not that big of a difference, just a longer and harder journey to get to that point.

I thought I complained a lot before this league dropped. How did you all manage to pass me in like a week on the complaining scale?

I'm not just going to accept defeat like that.

[marsh oracle]

has anyone tried farming sephiroth card?

[violet nymph]

Never heard of it. What is the reward for the divination card?

[marsh oracle]

divine orb one

[violet nymph]

Did you google a location for target farming the card?

[marsh oracle]

olde wiki says palace map only

[violet nymph]

How many devines is a apothecary card? Just 1.

Or how many devines is a doctor card.. just 1

Or maybe a nurse card.. if it's worth a devine.

The point is. You can farm Palace, Burial Ground, Crimson temple and Tower if you get bored of 1 map.

But why farm 5 card for 1 Devine when other spots can get you 1 devine for 1 card?

[final umbra]

So wait - what are exalts actually worth rn

[violet nymph]

Like 12 chaos.

[final umbra]

big nice

[violet nymph]

Basically the price of devines and exalts switched.

[narrow canyon]

I mean, they didn't have to completely destroy Beyond. Instead of it spawning hundreds of unique mobs, just make it spawn like 1 or 2 Rares or uniques per wave or skip spawning some waves, etc. There were options available. GGG just went typically overboard.

[little venture]

is delerium even worth it anymore, without the nodes to buff it? im debating on just blocking it. Seems really nerfed

[mellow hedge]

does anyone know what level the exile a reflection options shows up?

[hushed moss]

The only contact that's worth it as a solo player world probably be something like heist and blight where the rewards are from chests instead of monsters

That is until sir Chris decides that he forgot to also kill chest drops

[neon bison]

I think ggg will hide item drops behind mtx tbh

[hushed moss]

So now they'll also bring down chests so everything stays on par

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[gritty heath]

The biggest change GGG did which most people seem to miss is that they made Item Rarity bonuses matter a lot. If you are running with +0% rarity you are almost never going to see Divine orbs in your maps

[pearl iris]

Wandering path masterrace

[midnight pollen]

1k fusings spent on a 30% armor 😦

I'm mad

[pearl iris]

500 to go

after that you can start slowly getting mad 😄

[midnight pollen]

avg is 860 though

[dusk garnet]

reset league again..Kalandra 2.0!

[gritty heath]

I ran an insane map with +106% quant and +80% rarity, with 20/20 Item Rarity gem and 32 beasts with possesed and influence and all I got was 10cs worth of loot. Chris cannot convince me the loot is ok. It's not

[south moat]

but if u do you get more divines then you would the entire league for the "average player" (actually above average player as most people never finish the campaign)

[thorny fiber]

"wow this Death Rush Ring, wiki says fix Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill, I wanna buy that!"
reality is "Onslaught for (1 - 3) seconds on Kill" sadface
edit: also, its Adrenaline now instead of Onslaught, casual me doesnt even know the difference

[gritty heath]

Why instead? They are 2 different things

[molten veldt]

anyone here in game can kill buffed eradicator for me? it has mave and around 4-5 torment spirits

[edgy bronze]

I dropped about 80+ jewels from one rare mob, I'm kinda too lazy to look at them one by one ...

(I also added like 10-20 more to the stash tab afterward)

[thorny pond]

That would be the a deathknell for this game lol

[gritty heath]

After 30 maps

[edgy bronze]

nice, that was fast! I dropped my first after like 100 maps

[gritty heath]

Oh I am running +90% rarity on my 6link

Had 2 divines in 30 maps

But loot overall still feels like dogshit

Something is very broken with the smart loot system

Guess how many of these are actually any good?

[edgy bronze]

what do you mean by smart loot system, your loot filter?

[gritty heath]

No, the thing that bunches up loot, like 20x whitestones

[edgy bronze]

ah yeah

[gritty heath]

I believe it culls loot way too much that's why on average nothing drops until you hit a pinata

[gritty heath]

All of them were trash 😦

[edgy bronze]

anyway, I have a kind of uncommon point of view on the current loot situation, I only play PoE like once every two years. I played a bit at the end of last league, and I am only playing "for real" in this one, and I don't really feel disturbed by the changes, I just have fun and it works for me. I'm glad the strongest archnemesis got nerfed a bit. I'm curious to see how the divine-exalt swap will affect the economy in the long term, but I don't think it's bad.

It's just weird to see the exalt still holding the central position in the currency tab near the mirror of kalandra

[gritty heath]

Well the game works fine, the loot doesn't. And the league mechanic is just meh

[edgy bronze]

yeah but the loot doesn't only compared to previous leagues, if you just discover the game right now it's fine, right?

[silent jay]

the game looks fine if you don't rlly care, but if you look deeper, its just not ok at the moment

[rose pasture]

Well taking to attention the latest PoE philosophy on loot and harvest craft approach. I can say:

GGG can get my support for a small price of 50000 exalted orbs directly going into my stash.

First 3 days of the new league the limited offer stands: 30000 exalted orbs!

And offer closes after 2 weeks of league start, cuz anyway, trade is usually dead that times.

Also must say this is very generous offer, speaking of the price of exalted orbs after latest changes .

Hurry!
1 week already gone!

[gritty heath]

It's even worse though for new players, since usually league mechanics are really rewarding

Right now the only way to progress is to run really not so obvious strategies such as spamming a bunch of possessed beasts

[edgy bronze]

what do you mean? what are possessed beasts? I was able to progress to a state where I'm running T16 maps just fine without any special strategy, mostly a mix of regular mapping and delve

[gritty heath]

You run Einhar missions with Atlas set up such that you have all tormented spirits and beast nodes (maybe essences too), that way you maximize the number of rares mobs you get. It gets super dangerous though

[edgy bronze]

is that also a good source of solaris touched?

[gritty heath]

It's totally random, but since you get a lot more rare mobs yeah

Beasts themselves are super profitable if you are willing to go through the process of selling them in bulk

[edgy bronze]

I wasn't really sure what to do in atlas, I took all essences nodes, a bunch of shrines, delve, and jun, and a bunch of kirac/map related stuff

[tranquil tartan]

Guys anyone did "Form the lake" achievement?

[edgy bronze]

not a single step of it

[tranquil tartan]

Yea same and I did like ~60 lakes so far

[edgy bronze]

I did like a dozen, but I could have done the ethereal reflecting mist one, but I decided to sell that map on the market for 60c (I got it when I was early mapping)

[gritty heath]

That is nice

State of loot

[stuck sapphire]

b-but on average

[gritty heath]

It actually goes on for 1 more screen lol

[stuck sapphire]

hahahah thats great

[gritty heath]

Hmmm that's not bad

[stuck sapphire]

i like how they dropped identified though, could be something good in there

oh yeah nice one

kinda

not really

[gritty heath]

Yeah if it had free prefix would be nice

[dapper stump]

what are the little golden dots on the sides?

[stoic forge]

someone can price me this?

[balmy nexus]

Lf magic finder double touched split drops

[dry quarry]

Will this game die by 2023?

[pearl iris]

only if you keep playing it

[dull veldt]

This month

[dry quarry]

Thanks for info

[dry quarry]

Why?

[pearl iris]

Why do you think it would die?

[quick quarry]

It'll take a long time before the game is dead if ever.

[pearl iris]

I dont see it dying anytime soon. Sure the streamer simps that are unable to think for themselfs will move on to more fitting games like candy crush saga. But the game will stil carry on

[quick quarry]

Well that's not what I meant at all.

[oak tangle]

Chris said during expedition that Path of Exile was funded up to and slightly past PoE2 assuming a complete freeze on all income.

So you've got at least until 2024 before you need to start worrying about "$5 / Map" packs.

[quick quarry]

I mean think of New World. Just really a completely awful game and it's still going strong with 18k concurrent users based on the steam chart.

[polar sierra]

Chris tweeted that this is indeed going to be the last poe league

[silent jay]

18k is nothing for a game that costs billions to make though

[pearl iris]

Not gonna get the chinese shop in the EU/US PoE. PoE2 will carry all your mtx from PoE1 so essentially the same game still

They know they would fucking die the moment they try china p2w shit outside of china

[silent jay]

Link to that tweet?

[shell mulch]

Im at 47 level and I finished all acts Im trying to exp leech bu t
I cant earn any exp what I have to do

[polar sierra]

Sorry, i cant hear you im going through a tunnel

[quick quarry]

New World was judt probably the latest line in a series of pump and dump schemes. Likely they only put like 0.5% of the actual money they received to put something out the door or else they would have been sued by investors.

[pearl iris]

Aint new world mostly populated by bots at this point? Or did they get rid of the bot armies and somehow get players to come back?

[quick quarry]

Depends on if they fixed the gold duplication bug

Either way, the point is that poe isn't going anywhere. They would have to make dozens of monumental mistakes before the game would be dead

[pearl iris]

Would take like 10 new leagues like this in a row WHILE they would be completely silent about the problems and 0 fixes

Next to impossible to properly kill game as succesfull as PoE

[dreamy carbon]

which one lol

[gritty heath]

Setting up a difficult lake, then running it and getting barely any loot feels just disappointing to me. The rewards just don't scale with difficulty.

[alpine sierra]

Is there any point in interacting with league mechanic?

[violet nymph]

well if you want to have fun i would definitely not recommend it. If you want to get good loot... I also wouldn't recommend it. If you want to get good XP I also wouldn't recommend it.

[gritty heath]

Some of the lakes are pretty fun though why wouldn't you recommend it?

The tormented spirit tiles are bonkers

Breaches are insane

Just need a super computer to handle it, but it's fun

[violet nymph]

because its glorified maps with more cut up and convoluted pathing

[gritty heath]

Power 8+ bosses are fun too

So what? It's 10 maps condensed and stacked into one area, which is fun

[violet nymph]

only reason to do it is for the hope that you get a god tier mirrored jewelry item from bird queen

[gritty heath]

If it dropped good rewards nobody would say it's boring

[violet nymph]

ok? the reason you do frustrating stuff is because the rewards are good (see Heist)

[oak tangle]

The inherent problem with the lake is that it's basically just a sub-map that isn't affected by any atlas modifiers. It's not bad, but I've yet to get a ring from the Bird Lady that would justify the danger at rank 8+. I still do them, but compared to the Worlds Greatest League Mechanic: Expedition, it's...'okay'.

[gritty heath]

Yeah but the lake is not frustrating at all

[violet nymph]

thats the thing about opinions, they differ

[gritty heath]

Expedition is world greatest? Mkay lol

[alpine sierra]

I'll just keep running ritual and expedition then

[oak tangle]

Still prefer it to Sentinel.

[gritty heath]

I don't know I find it fun to fight 10 unique bosses per area, they are much better than generic AN mobs

and monkeys and breaches that just explode with mobs are awesome

[oak tangle]

There have definitely been leagues I've liked less, though there are days I wish I could re-do Scourge now that I know what "Shock" is.

[violet nymph]

i like going fast, doing a lot of damage, and getting a lot of loot

you know... all the stuff they nerfed

[oak tangle]

But hooboy, Our Lord and Savior Kalandra generates the absolute worst rings I have ever seen.

[gritty heath]

Yeah but that's what I said: lake is fun, it's just not dropping anything. If it did nobody would say it's a bad mechanic

Like sentinels were the shittiest mechanic and everybody loved it

[oak tangle]

Ugh.

Don't remind me.

[alpine sierra]

Lake is just crappy temple

[gritty heath]

It's a better temple - it's shorter and there are more mobs

You just need to pick hard tiles

[oak tangle]

I prefer Temple, personally. The feel is better and I like the way it builds up to a big "Boss Map"

[gritty heath]

Heh, I hate temple and always skip it

[alpine sierra]

Alva is more of a character than kalandra

[oak tangle]

Kalandra kind of lacks that feel of building up to something. You make a build-a-bear-map and then run it. Confetti, I guess.

[gritty heath]

Did you run the boss tiles?

[oak tangle]

Certainly, and I'm not saying it's bad, just that it lacks a feel of the grandure that some of the other leagues have had.

[gritty heath]

Well yes, it's a filler league

[oak tangle]

[alpine sierra]

It's a shit leagut

Filler is a bit much

[gritty heath]

If they didn't mess up the loot and shoehorn AN everywhere it would be a pretty average league

[alpine sierra]

AN vision tm

Stupidest decision to integrate into main game

Did they push through the defensive nerfs yet?

[violet nymph]

I would say it is likely that I wouldn't mind the lakes themselves with normal loot and without AN monsters everywhere

but I hated Archnemesis and I hate the fact that it is such an influential part of the game now

[alpine sierra]

I don't love mechanics that take me out of map, give me ultimatum pls

[violet nymph]

you must have loved Sentinel then

Lake of Kalandra is a less interesting iteration of Synthesis

[alpine sierra]

Didnt play it, was too buys

busy

[gritty heath]

Some AN mobs are really cool, like the magma barrier one, I love it

It's fair and unique

But most others are just lazy design

[mellow beacon]

Is it just me or is the ping on europe servers mcuh less stable this league?

[limpid trail]

Oh...

[errant quiver]

Next to the 50 divines

[pearl iris]

Almost like you could shove 50 tarot cards in your pocket or something

[plush sinew]

did i miss somthng or is there no more assassin mark ring on the market ?

[floral tundra]

somehow after putting my lake in map device it came out like this

any ideas?

this seems like a bug, i had like 8+ nodes on the lake

[thorny pond]

I love AN

[floral tundra]

oh i think i know what i done wrong

[thorny pond]

It’s a little rough around the edges

[floral tundra]

i had one diagonal node and the rest just doesnt show

so it wasnt correctly connected

[severe trail]

How bad is the league?I keep seeing videos how bad it is, I was tempted to get going again this season

[fervent wave]

I was also going to pick up the game for this league, then I looked into it and...it seems like I might not want to

[plain lagoon]

it flips between thinking everything is good/fun to wanting to break your keyboard

[violet nymph]

Idk about others. as a casual, im having fun

[fair aspen]

I mean. I'm maybe made put of more paper than usual, but I'm always made out of paper so it really isn't much different. Felt weird seeing no drops all the time though

[plain lagoon]

let me put it this way, you can run one map with all the most disgusting modifiers easily then same tier a white map can just shit all over you, welcome to archnemesis mods

[fair aspen]

Some of the combos are dumb, yea

[plain lagoon]

running some content that has you inside a small area like ritual or delve, suddenly an aura that prevents all healing from working

and if you can't burst it down well you're just fucked

[lone forge]

some mirror items are kinda funny. "Hi would you like 115-31 (+81) hp and +20 to +37 & -12% phys dps? Or would you like 31-115 (-84) hp and +12% phys dps if you take 20-37more dmg from every hit?" xD

[severe trail]

Aren’t the drops and stuff real bad rn?

[past badger]

Yeah its all gud for casual plebs

[hasty perch]

No, drops are really damn good for casual playing

Its the turbojuicers who have a hard time

Im playing ssf right now, never had so many unique drops and alch overflow

Like 50% of bosses drop an unique (I have 60 IIR from amulet reflected mainly I wear because 200 life 43 IIR is noice)

AN essence and beast mobs are overtuned tho so game is very rippy

Its mainly an issue for beasts tho imo

As essence rush in white maps is just faster than doing them in reds anyway

Strand is amazing for that essence rush into double boss for uniques super short map and just get some lakes on the way for the div and exalt chests

[undone fox]

which are the loot explosion archnem mods?

[hasty perch]

Anything-touched

[pearl iris]

Kalandra league enjoyer build.Ez

[hasty perch]

Looks fun

I kinda like the essence notables tho

Massive amounts of them

[fair cape]

I took heist, incursion, and harvest

[quartz wraith]

oof

[stiff lantern]

So the league will be fixed in an month

[mellow beacon]

It's already fixed, the loot is better for an average player then in previous leagues... According to Chris.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/wytujc/comment/ilyrwzy/?context=10

[fluid kestrel]

Hello mates, anyone have a spare Tabula Rasa for me ? 😄

[elder eagle]

It's supposed to be fixed, it isn't.

[mellow beacon]

That's what I meant, the comment has 1000+ downvotes, while most posts from Chris, even about nerfs had pretty good ratios.

But most people already moved on, either quit, think it is actually fine, or don't expect things to change before 3.20, so unless player retention falls to like, 25% on week two nothing will happen, though maybe even that won't be enough.

[safe flume]

guys i have solaris-touched mob any MF here?

[mellow beacon]

Try in TFT.

[safe flume]

im banned there it seems lol

[narrow canyon]

Well, I can at least say that, unique drop rates in the Acts feels nerfed to me for sure. 🤷‍♂️ Still finding a small amount compared to what I was used to before hiatus. But currency drops are still really nice to me. At least in this League.

[mellow beacon]

Or 'we're reverting loot nerfs'.

[hard scaffold]

how to unlock other re-roll option chances?

[dusky kernel]

Grossest shit Ive seen posted yet

[hasty perch]

Insane both defensively and offensively. Impressive

[rocky nebula]

Lmao it's not better than previous leagues

[mellow beacon]

As I said, I don't believe that, Chris is most likely missing something.

[hard scaffold]

what's the reflection with beyond? can't find it in trade, regarding kalandra tablet

[timid flicker]

Is the league playeable?

or still a total dogshit

Need to know

:<

[lone forge]

It's getting better. Friend is coming in late running acts this weekend, he's way ahead of where I was currency wise on my run through acts on day 1/2. I felt like I was behind in currency over the last week to just get me through maps with alchs/bindings (out of bindings, down to 6 alch, halfway through reds).

Then I popped a couple alch+annointed blight maps with a buddy after dinner tonight and suddenly my currency tab feels a lot better.

Also just 20 min ago I got really lucky with a corruption that stacked mods onto my second T14 map of the season and got some AN mods on like the first 2 rares directly in front of my portal. Gettings 2 stacked AN mobs at once was SUPER unfun, had to portal out twice to not die. but they dropped a bunch of good stuff so I guess I win at the AN slot machine tonight.

[rich quest]

i am new to the kalandra league, should i be skipping the new league mechanic? ive heard its currently not worth doing

[violet nymph]

@rich quest I wouldn't bother with it unless you can make a mirror map that has at least 6+ difficulty

Even so, you'll likely not get much for your troubles.

[frigid shore]

Is there something bugged with spawn rate of previous league mechanics? I have everything except Blight, Ritual, Expedition and Heist turned off and also using the Stream of Consciousness and all wheel's for the mechanics left on yet I have now gone 5 maps with no previous league mechanics at all 😦

[hollow sigil]

Lmao just opened a difficulty 13 breach and instantly died

[main epoch]

Okay... so I have just run into this. This is the good one right? Should I immediately go and get a culler to kill it?

[frigid shore]

yeh

[main epoch]

Any clue how that could work? Southbounds are almost impossible for me to equip

[frigid shore]

ask a culler

[dense ruin]

they have cull

you don't need southbound

[main epoch]

🤔 I have 1-shot every other essence monster in this map. Are you sure?

[dense ruin]

it's a tormented prismatic soul eater arcane buffer solaris triple essence

[pearl iris]

this looks fun

[hasty perch]

The lake is very much worth running

Avoid league tiles and get 8-9+ difficulty and you should get some nice stuff

[pearl iris]

diff 7+ themed rogue exile lakes are fucking brutal

but then again, getting 10+ red maps from the chest is kinda tempting...

[tardy scroll]

I love how this league has made it possible to have enough -ele resist to get positive capped for cheap

[shadow vale]

bro i just lost complete motivation to play just cuz of those videos I see 50+ divine orbs from one mob like bruh

[pearl iris]

Might not be the game for you if someone else getting lucky makes you lose motivation. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but every single second, someone else is getting much luckier drops than you

[frigid shore]

I think the lost motivation is less them getting lucky and it driving up prices of things that put them out of reach of casuals

[jaunty girder]

Rogue exiles this league are rough I don't remember them being this difficult

But also eldritch altar + full investment into ritual is doing really well for me so far

[pearl iris]

feels like wandering path is stupid stronk this time aswell

[gritty heath]

I am running a quant+rarity ring and rarity support link and I don't really feel a difference

[deep spear]

guys they fucked up chaos recipe?

i am getting 2 orbs of chance instead

[gusty coyote]

itemlevel

[deep spear]

ffs whats the cap?

[gusty coyote]

doublecheck your items itemlv, I think they give chances below a certain ilv

[deep spear]

aight, thx

[gusty coyote]

60-74 is the chaos range

75+ give regals

On another note

Did anybody try <-100% item rarity with the new kalandra jewelry?

I want to know if anything funny/silly happens

[pearl iris]

bosses seem to drop unique or two 75% of the time with 150% IIR on map bosses

[gusty coyote]

right, but I think bosses have some inbuilt rarity, no?

[pearl iris]

ye

[gusty coyote]

I doubt GGG didn't think about underflow

but I still wonder what negative 101% rarity would do

[pearl iris]

only white items dropping? 😄

[gusty coyote]

it's a multiplier isn't it? (1+rarity/100)?

I wonder what happens when it turns negative

[pearl iris]

your loot turns negative 😄

most likely just makes the rarity of dropped items absolute shit

IE items drop as white, currency is id/portal scrolls etc etc

[earnest ether]

guys, did kalandra add some new endgame boss to progress towards in lakes?

[rose pasture]

Just show us pls what youve get after killed it. Curious!

||No photoshop or manual div droppings pls tho!||

[scarlet shell]

Essence tiles on max diff are the kalandra boss

[pearl iris]

essences have nothing on rogue exiles 😄

Tho there is also that "boss" tile that has like 3 random bosses in it

that shit goes from 0 -> 100 real fucking fast

[scarlet shell]

I just did rogue exiles as a final tile today and boy you’re not kidding

Those mf’s are rippy as hell

[pearl iris]

was all proud of myself when i managed to roll 3 last tiles as rogue exiles with shit like lightning theme and frost theme etc.. UNTIL i fucking got to them and i realized just what kinda of world ending threat i conjured up

And the build i play gives 0 fucks about mega buffed essences, archnemesis or even fucking einhar red beasts

[narrow canyon]

I was literally just telling somebody else that quite playing, that these juiced up Rares are freaking absurd compared to any endgame boss I've ever fought. Hyper aggressive, damage to match or exceed a juiced boss, sometimes crazy fast... Might as well just facetank the things and try to burst them down.

[pearl iris]

jesus fuck this was tough

[main epoch]

Sorry for the massive delay. Not exactly what I was expecting considering what the culler claimed they had

[long trench]

I wish the game was easier

[static juniper]

It hit me today that the Lake of Kalandra zone could be a Pilot for a new terrain engine for PoE2. Like, in PoE2 the hexagons will have different skins instead of just being hexagon pillars. And when I considered that could be the entire point of the mechanic, it being underwhelming made a lot of sense.

[violet nymph]

Cullers aren't actually that much more efficent than you doing it yourself without massive quant/rarity bonuses already in play.

[main epoch]

I had multiple quant/rarity alters from Exarch on the map, so it was a 140% quant map T16. I had the torment nodes that give quant to possessed monsters. Only thing I can think of is 6 player quant and deli orbs

[quasi shoal]

can anyone tell me thename of the kalandra lake tile that allows you to put in an amulet for mirroring?

[dusky kernel]

This is what is expected. the 50 divines you saw is a 6 man juiced map

[gritty heath]

Haha I love this. Wish it would drop something though

[gritty heath]

This is so tiring. I even have +quant gear and +rarity gem

[pearl iris]

enjoy never running out of id or portal scrolls 😄

at what point of quant/rarity/pack size can you start saying the maps are juiced?

[gritty heath]

I don't know. It doesn't seem to matter how much quant or rarity you have

My benchmark is eldritch currency since that should not have changed at all, but somehow it drops a lot less, like half of last league

Well actually rarity maybe works, since I drop a lot more rares than magic items now

[rose pasture]

Thanks!

I napped too, so np at all

Still better than just 5c

[viral shale]

rip my noob ass

[gritty heath]

Meh

[rose pasture]

How it looks without mf culler anyway.

Sorry for ping.

[gritty heath]

Try this one

[rose pasture]

yeeeah

[narrow canyon]

https://www.poewiki.net/w/images/thumb/0/08/Rhoa_Scavenger.jpg/296px-Rhoa_Scavenger.jpg

Oh you mean this guy?

[rose pasture]

oh that guy is rly rly rly scary!

cause of biggest part of poe noob leave at start

[thick rock]

did you not have much quant on your map? what tier was it?

[rare wyvern]

Just did a lake with a beyond tile, spawned a boss, killed them, and then... the rest of the rats in the tile didn't spawn more beyond monsters. Is that expected?

[azure nymph]

Hey guys. What’s the tankiest Meta build at the moment, im playing lightning conduit and have got decent gear but I’m sick of dying in t16s, looking for a build that just doesn’t die and can still do good damage. I’m SSF, so something doable in that would be great, but I’m open to xfer to trade

[hasty perch]

J U G G

[past badger]

Yea new changes once boss dies betond is done on the map

[rare wyvern]

Ah I do remember reading that now, thank you

[violet nymph]

yo wtf did I just find

those rollllssss

[jaunty girder]

yo i just got one of those from a void card

[midnight pollen]

LITERALLY NOTHING. My filter isn't hiding it

ALL 3 dropped nothing

[barren crescent]

You can't be realistically complaining about what the mod does.

Thats like complaining that your car doesn't fly

[teal rune]

Is it just me or the drop rate of Exalted Orb have been improved? I keep on getting it. I thought it have the same drop rate as Divine Orb.

[patent ridge]

Probably

I have way more exalts this early than I did any other league

[alpine sierra]

Does anyone know how to get exile tile for lake of kalandra?

[brisk aurora]

Anyone wanna come kill the stupid brine king?

[pearl iris]

Does anyone know how to stop getting it so fucking much.... Its fucking miserable

[fluid solstice]

Any lightning strikers? I made my mid game gear but it seems low dps to start bossing, any tips? Ive followed the maxroll guide

[main epoch]

t16 140% quant after exarch alters

[violet nymph]

QUICK: post something good about the kalandra mechanic

[fervent lily]

its cool

[violet nymph]

QUICK: post something else that's good about the kalandra mechanic

[fervent lily]

its fun

[violet nymph]

QUICK: post something else that's something else that's good about the kalandra mechanic

[fair aspen]

Ground go swoosh splash rumble raise out of the water

[fervent lily]

its challenging

[violet nymph]

Hehe I like go swoosh splash rumble

[fair aspen]

I live to serve. And die instantly to any attack in poe that connects

[lofty turtle]

The mechanic of lake of kalandra is sht but I'm having fun with the base game

[junior dove]

same for me, haven't played in about a year so it's a bit refreshing.

[raw grove]

ah yes

[tawny pasture]

so the other one is just positve

[raw grove]

Ye

[dry quarry]

How do you get mirrored items?

[raw grove]

randomly get during clearing lake rooms

[dry quarry]

Ohhh

Thanks

[raven flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9HczozamAI

[rain forge]

deathless maven done, really feel finished w/ the league now

also since when does maven drop awakened gems

[lofty turtle]

Same. Last league I played was harvest lmao

[violet nymph]

GL with life

[crystal grail]

Couple leagues now

[crystal grail]

What a tease. You didn't even show any map footage

[clever turret]

hello, looking for a group to run though story would any one like help?

[plush kiln]

Best part of new league is being able to turn it into a map to deal with later when you've had enough to smoke

[crystal grail]

Yeah, that was the best change they ever made to incursion

[tranquil tartan]

Looking for someone who did the "Form the lake" challenge

[olive bear]

Besides rare AN mob MF culling, any other good methods to farm currency right now?

[junior dove]

play a lot

[tribal hawk]

League Mechanics. Mapping is shit unless you hit the lottery, jokes on me for playing a mapping build I guess

[olive bear]

Just any league mechanic or is expedition still the top tier for currency?

[tribal hawk]

Who knows I quit LOL

[digital zodiac]

abnormal DC, whats happening

[glad egret]

anyone getting "error league" on login?

[digital zodiac]

me me

@glad egret which server? Singapore?

[glad egret]

yea

[digital zodiac]

yeah SG server issue then

dang i just reached act 10

[glad egret]

maybe they decided to rollback the league

[digital zodiac]

dude m not spending 2 more days on acts man

[crystal arrow]

i lost my sirus to the dc pepehands

[digital zodiac]

@crystal arrow u are singapore server?

[crystal arrow]

yea

[digital zodiac]

yep, SG is down

wake the mods up

😮

[crystal arrow]

its back up

[digital zodiac]

is it

its still down forme

[crystal arrow]

yeah im in

[vocal quail]

im in too

[crystal arrow]

but my instance is gone

[olive bear]

What's SG?

[digital zodiac]

singapore

[olive bear]

Ah

[vocal quail]

got disconnected. and it shows "Error" league and ask if i wanna migrate lol

[digital zodiac]

hmmmm

<@&174997701513969665> ^

[woven compass]

So is the loot problem fixed now?

[digital zodiac]

@vocal quail can u go into league?

[vocal quail]

Im in the league atm

[livid lake]

que

[digital zodiac]

i am seeing the above screen

[tribal hawk]

Are the Heist atlas passives worthless?

[digital zodiac]

what to do?

[livid lake]

we chat mods my dude, i've no idea why your game is being bad, either your server is having issues or something is broke.

[digital zodiac]

well i am in. so that helped. :X

[native shoal]

anyone killing maven? i need for the atlas completion and the orb for maps

[rich bolt]

at what point am I supposed to unlock the third crafting option for the mirror?

[warped trench]

ded league?

[worthy widget]

does anyone know if ilvl matters for reflecting mist? and can u reflect magic items?

[pliant ravine]

kirac can have maps that aren't in the league?

[tawny pasture]

Yup

[violet nymph]

guys do we know if the lakes get buffed more? Should I save them?

[gritty heath]

lol I thought they fixed it

[harsh bone]

It's been said that there will be some lake changes today or tomorrow. I'd hold on to them for now

They're likely QOL rather than loot buffs, but who knows

[violet nymph]

thank you

[strong quiver]

innocence touched paying out

barely 3 ex

[nova harbor]

what is the chaos orb recipe now?

does anyone know?

[tawny pasture]

same as before

full set of ilvl 60-74 iteem

[nova harbor]

k still thought it was just making sure thx

[shell lodge]

Why does Aegis feel way less tanky than last league

[tawny pasture]

its the same exact item so ?

[mint aurora]

ok, before i spend two months on this

is this league fun

[tawny pasture]

for some it is for other its not

league mechanic itself is okai but reward lacking , but there is a patch in the next days