I initially thought he might be right though because gems are usually sold at sisoa and not clarissa after the quest, it's odd that GGG does it this way f r some gems
#wiki
grand magnet
slate phoenix
😘 🦞
frank roost
Hey, i don't know if it was mentioned or not but Feeding frenzy page doesn't have +10% more damage from the FF buff anymore
in game it still shows that it gives more damage
and in the patchnotes they said they removed only the "more damage while you have FF" line from the gem
it doesn't mention the buff at all
rose verge
I've updated the FF page just right now since the patch notes never say the buff was changed, but only mention the support being changed. (in case anyone looks at the page in confusion)
outer garnet
Pretty sure FF is only 10% attack/cast/move speed now
see 3.9 patch notes when they nerfed the buff.
pretty sure the 10% more minion damage also got removed after they gave gem more damage to supported minions which they removed in 3.10
rose verge
The 3.9 patch notes are annoying because they omit mentioning the more damage modifier on the buff. It's plausible that it's still there, or that it was removed but the reminder text is wrong. I'm not sure how the game generates buff reminder text.
outer garnet
could have been removed and they forgot to change tooltip or it could have stayed. won't know til GGG confirms which one
sour berry
I don't believe it got removed the second sentence was also referring to the support gem's bonus not the buff
fresh plaza
@fresh plaza In-game achievement list shows a total of 505 points for All Ears, though?
@raven bluff yes it does.
All Eears achievement shows 505 points in total.
rose verge
@sour berry The issue is with the first sentence.
The Feeding Frenzy buff now grants 10% increased attack, cast, and movement speed to your minions (from 15%).
This could mean 'FF buff now only grants'.
If you remove the "(from 15%)" from the end of the sentence then it strongly implies the 'more damage' was removed. But that bit implies the sentence only changes that part of the buff.
stable parcel
Found problem on fossil craft description:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Frigid_Fossil
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Scorched_Fossil
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aberrant_Fossil
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Metallic_Fossil
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Jagged_Fossil
All this fossil have same problem in description, ths string sound like "you have -9% XXXXXXXX", but in real second row only duplicate first row
rose verge
Where do I find the mod values to use in {{Item}} definitions?
bleak comet
rose verge
Thanks!
rose verge
Is there a page to facilitate cargo queries?
Seems silly to create my own profile sub page for cargo queries, though I guess that's a solution
Guess I can always store the code locally and use page preview to run it.
bleak comet
I use preview until I've found what I need.
molten sedge
Vaal areas have duplicate data pages https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area:2~6~4
rose verge
We've added an Ailment Threshold to monsters. In the great majority of cases, the Ailment Threshold matches the monster's Maximum Life. It primarily differs for especially high-life monsters (such as The Shaper), where the threshold is reduced to allow ailments to be applied with hits that wouldn't ordinarily reach the required Life thresholds.
Are the ailment thresholds listed anywhere? I notice they are missing from the Shaper page.
rose verge
Is there a way to see the previous version of a skill? The history pages are broken.
proven panther
@rose verge Not through the wiki itself, but it's all archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
bleak comet
What's the problem with going to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Reave&action=history ?
rose verge
@bleak comet That just shows you when the page was edited, not what the page contents were.
If you click on any of the old pages they will be broken.
Like this:
Some pages are more broken than others
In my case I was looking for the exact skill gem text for a skill which was changed. Which comes from the infobox, which is one of the broken parts of the page.
bleak comet
It can show you the source code if you click around a bit.
For example the old Reave description from 2013:
grand magnet
@bleak comet what do you think needs to be done with the monster template still?
I think it's good enough to use
Adding 'real' monster skills is a bigger project
bleak comet
It seems quite buggy still.
Item quality is negative. And is incrementing when I press the is map boss button multiple times.
Empty stat rows
No picture of the monster.
Infobox is too wide I think.
Not all relevant stat ids are shown. Compare with https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/Atziri/Atziri
Are the numbers even accurate? No life numbers are matching each other. I've compared the module, JS and poedb and none of the life numbers match for Atziri.
Are there any more monster life calculators out there? How different are they?
bleak comet
Missing stat text.
No link to the data page. If we'd have that I think we could remove attack distance and size columns as I don't think they're that interesting for the main page.
blissful forge
guys be carefull on poe wiki me and my friend got redirected to a phishing site from there
i think it was ad's falut even tho i have adblock
grand magnet
I was pretty sure I fixed the stats adding bug odd
rose verge
Okay, not exactly sure what's going on here or how to fix it.
- Strand Map is missing it's unique link.
- List of uniques page links to the Legion map:
- "Strand Map (Legion)" is basically blank.
raven bluff
The way that map "versions" have been handled is really not ideal. IMO, the wiki would be best off with a single page for each map layout, and possibly one page for each historical version of the entire Atlas
bleak comet
That's what it is for normal maps?
Unique maps is dragging though because it's not updated by the bot.
raven bluff
It's not just an issue for unique maps, though. I've seen some cases where interesting details about maps have gotten lost because they were attached to the wrong version of the map page
For example, there's details about the Strand bosses on both https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map_(War_for_the_Atlas) and https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map_(Atlas_of_Worlds). Current page has none of that
bleak comet
But this is the main page: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Strand_Map
So this one should be thats updated.
rose verge
I've noticed most of the map pages are missing boss details
bleak comet
no one has done the work though.
raven bluff
A lot of that work has been done before. The problem is that it's all in the wrong places now
bleak comet
yes
Handling legacy maps is such a waste of time though. We sholdn't have started doing that.
raven bluff
Like I said -- one page for each legacy series, maybe? It is interesting to have the old graphics and tier information around.
bleak comet
it's like that now.
but the work to switch/move all the content to the page without the suffix (Legion) needs to be done.
rose verge
Do we record old atlas layouts? What maps neighboured each other?
proven panther
Honestly I don't see what the point is of legacy map pages on the wiki, the differences are superficial at best (art, map tier) and not the type of thing anyone is going to be looking at the wiki for, they should probably all be removed and any information on them migrated to the main map page
grand magnet
it's relevant for standard players and the main information should be on the main map page anyway
proven panther
I'm not really convinced that it is useful for standard players honestly, I can't think of a single scenario where I would bother checking the wiki for anything related to legacy maps and I have thousands of them, but if those pages are going to stick around it might be worth disabling edits on them for non-admins so people don't try to add information to the wrong page in the future
grand magnet
@bleak comet did you test monsterbox after yesterdays update
bleak comet
@grand magnet Rarity and quantity are wrong on Atziri. They shouldn't be negative.
grand magnet
I fixed that yesterday?
grand magnet
I have to look into that, idk if this is a caching issue or something else
maybe it has to do with how the widget sets the defaults
that that is somehow bugged
yeah ok it's almost certainly the defaults
the widgets use some really strange html comments to pass parameters it's a bit of a pain
I'm starting to think it's easier to just put the defaults in a hidden box somewhere and grab the values via JS
@bleak comet check map monster, is map boss and uncheck it, then fiddle with the template and see if there are any other issues
bleak comet
without defaults?
grand magnet
yeah remove all defaults, check/unlock those boxes
the reason it's removing quantity it's because i think it is a map monster when it is not checked
and keeps removing quantity from the old level
grand magnet
it is still the defaults m essing things up, check map monster, map boss, uncheck map boss, uncheck map monster in that order
flat eagle
hi there !
i need to know if item rarity support affect explomod from crusaders mod
anyone knows?
molten sedge
Broken divination card https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Lion
iron bay
Is there any reason why people use gilded fossil on their crafting base ?
sour berry
rose verge
@clever basalt thanks
radiant summit
rose verge
Should Siosa be added to the vendor list on gem pages? I keep coming across people confused by the Vendor rewards table.
People mistakenly think the row for Fixture of Fate is for Siosa, instead of Clarissa. Then report bugs when they can or can't buy something from Siosa.
Alternatively the vendor's name should be listed first, with the quest as sub-title. This avoids increasing the table size.
Oh, Siosa should be on that table. Guess it really is a mistake with the wiki.
And previous discussion here: https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/255636480016252928/696383287916101752
The Fixture of Fate quest page is listing Clarissa's vendor rewards under Siosa?
grand magnet
no it's just that some gems, for some reason, can be bought at clarissa
I thought it was a bug but it's not
I checked in game
rose verge
To fix the above I want to add:
Template:Quest reward/cargo/vendor rewards 3 Siosa A Fixture of Fate 0 Hypothermia
To the vendor_rewards cargo table. How do I edit this?
@grand magnet A usability bug is still a bug. I think moving the NPC names above the quests would cut down on the confusion.
Actually, the previous post was someone reading the NPC but not the quest, wasn't it?
And this person is reading the quest but not the NPC
Oh, it's the same issue with feeding frenzy. It should be listing both Siosa and Clarissa in the reward table for gems which you can get from both.
grand magnet
that is a bug in that case
rose verge
Okay, so all cargo data is stored in lua code under the Module: namespace pages?
Though last time I tried doing that it didn't update. So there's a cache which I need to clear, or will auto clear?
grand magnet
you need to null edit the pages storing the data, which is usually under the associated template under /cargo/table_name/N (n being 1 for every 1k)
and not all data is stored like that
rose verge
I tried adding a note to the Bestiary recipe page - that 30% Quality craft doesn't work on corrupted items. Added the code here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:Bestiary/recipes
But the changes never propagated to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Beastcrafting
grand magnet
as I said above, and also any changes will be deleted with the next patch
I can give you the exact link later, trying to find out what is going on with the quest rewards exactly
rose verge
Okay, thanks. Trying to wrap my head round all this indirection is hard
grand magnet
ok did you find it?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Bestiary/cargo/recipes
The missing entries for the quest rewards should be there now
rose verge
Nice!
gusty hedge
How can I query the Seal Cost for prophecies? Does anyone know the table/field this value is held in?
nvm, there's a prophecies table
lilac snow
didn't find this info in "Maps" and "Atlas of Worlds", it's probably okay if I add it? "For map drops, the only maps that can drop normally(this excludes league content) is what is currently visible in one's own atlas. If currently all atlas maps are yellow, you can't get red or white maps drops."
lilac snow
And I've updated both pages. Not with this wording but some wording.
rose verge
Anyone know what's causing this error? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Forge_of_the_Phoenix_Map
Also an issue here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Forge_of_the_Phoenix_Map_(disambiguation)
Lua error in Module:Item2 at line 7614: No results found. Forge of the Phoenix Map is a map area.
And
Module Error: Item link: Too many results for search parameter "Forge of the Phoenix Map". Consider using page parameter instead. is the main page for the map.
Respectively.
The same issue with pages:
- Lair of the Hydra Map
- Pit of the Chimera Map
grand magnet
there is no version page for the current series
rose verge
Can we update the code so it still works when a map doesn't exist in the current series? Maybe link to the latest version.
I found a few 'Forge of the Phoenix' maps on Delirium league, though not sure how to check what series they are from. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Delirium/pYVwrEvS0
^I only mention this because I previously assumed that all maps on a new league would be the latest series. So either those maps are from the old series, or it's a scam and fake items, or they do exist in the new series. Not really sure what the case is
grand magnet
it might be missing because they're not on the atlas I can look into that
sudden lava
I think this recipe is not in the wiki?
grand magnet
is the result random of that?
because 5 to 1 recipe for items has been a thing for a long time
sudden lava
random jewel
grand magnet
also a large cluster jewel ?
sudden lava
yes
sour berry
it's working as intended then
sudden lava
oh, thx
molten sedge
Why was The Obscured removed from Breachstone pages?
empty bridge
Hi guys, I updated page on cluster jewels adding the number of passives each type can have
my first edit, just in case someone wants to check 🙂
one thing which can be also added to each cluster jewel page is info about how many small passives, notables and sockets can be there and layout examples for each combination
I don't have access to that many jewels to do it so please feel free to pick this up 🙂
rose verge
It could be interesting to list how notable affixes and +socket mods are structured.
So with large you can have 2 prefix notables and 1 suffix notable. The +1-2 medium sockets is then a suffix.
The same applies for mediums where at most 2 prefixes 1 prefix and 1 suffix can be a notable.
eager ivy
Why does Sirus link on the wiki point to this https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Monster:Metadata/Monsters/AtlasExiles/AtlasExile5 instead of Sirus info?
hidden falcon
lilac snow
I'm thinking of adding this to the "Atlas of Worlds" page: "Following this, when a map drop's tier is rolled and no maps of that tier exist currently on the atlas, a map isn't dropped but instead adds to a "map equity" system that helps higher tier maps to drop." The only source of information I've found so far is this: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fdl0az/map_equity_delvetemple_response/
well, more specifically, this screenshot from some guys discord: https://i.imgur.com/xuymGZ8.png
Or I can just add it without sourcing an official source? 
still swift
technically that's from neon, so it is an official "source". would be nicer to have an actual red post from them though I agree
rich widget
How does "accumulating equity" actually work?
still swift
the mechanic has never been well-explained, so there are still a lot of questions about it
opaque crystal
so, i just got an iron bard drop in promenade
wiki only lists it as dropping in vinktar square - if it makes a difference, i had perandus and no other mods really
Would somebody with an account be willing to add? here is a screenshot
still swift
was there any other mechanic involved, like delirium, metamorph, or blight?
also with promenade having been a fairly meta map for 2 leagues now I guess I would have expected more of these
meager oasisBOT
Please don't post discord invites
vernal creek
I have a small question about poe2 if u know i would love to buy Stash tabs but will they be with me in poe2
?
bleak comet
There is https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_2. Doesn't seem to mention stash tabs though, they should follow over though right?
proven panther
Just a heads up, there's a fairly obnoxious twitch video embedded on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system that autoplays, and it doesn't seem to be intentional as it has autoplay=false set, it just ignores that setting.
grand magnet
it should be urlargs=autoplay=false
sour berry
does the wiki have a direct video upload extension that would replace the clip?
on my screen it looks like it's been encoded so it doesn't read the param?
elfin violet
Hi yes, on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Saqawal's_Nest it doesn’t give the aspect
Aspect is only through talons or craft
solemn storm
Reverted the last change which had added that, thanks
cunning crown
there seems to be a rendering issue with titles that contain item links in tables of contents
the ToC includes the flavour text of the quest items, because they're linked in the headers
I don't know if the right answer is just to say "don't link items in headers" or if there's a fix that can be made to the item linking template
but hey, bug reported 😄
rich widget
Item links shouldn't be used in section headings.
rose verge
Do we know when league is ending yet?
bleak comet
I usually take the date from http://api.pathofexile.com/leagues?type=main&compact=1
paper mantle
hey guys, i'm looking for the function that produced this chart, is it still accurate to the current patch and xp changes that occurred a while ago?
bleak comet
The table is here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Experience
grand magnet
The exp values didn't change ... it just the rate at which the experience is gained
abstract juniper
about https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Minion#Minion_damage
shouldn't unique items that have the keyword ally also be included in the unique items section?
the ascendancy passives query does include the ally keyword already
sour berry
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Version_3.11.0#Unique_Item_Balance the traitor goes to existing div card instead of new keystone (whenever it gets a page), also the indentation level doesn't match post (specific/vaal are subitems of skill rebalance)
astral quail
when does path of building get updated for harvest league ?
rose verge
@astral quail That is off topic. Try #1┃endgame-help, #1┃after-acts-help or #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help
astral nebula
is there something like a draft feature for testing edits?
new to wiki editing but want to try to improve some pages
rose verge
@astral nebula There's the preview button, that's normally enough. You can also create pages under your username.
astral nebula
I'll try that, thanks
astral nebula
where does info from queries such as passive skills come from? for example for adding the new keystones
bleak comet
You can find what's available to query here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:CargoTables
The data is stored on pages with the help of templates. For example passive skill data are stored by the https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Passive_skill template on pges that starts with Passive Skill:, see https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Passive_Skill:Ghost~reaver1306
astral nebula
ah cool
astral nebula
I added mechanics section to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Warcry with 3.11 stuff hopefully the style is ok
rich widget
@eternal crater Any idea why the embedded twich vod is showing an error on the vendor recipe system article? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vendor_recipe_system
eternal crater
all twitch embeds are having an error
coarse ermine
Updated Creeping Frost page to refer to "Creeping Frost" rather than "Arctic Breath".
lusty hedge
How to edit changed unique item ?
lusty hedge
Do you create the modifier id or there is already?
Like Brain Rattler 300% more damage with Shock is the same modifier as Voltaxic Rift but his modifier is AttacksShockAsIfDealingMoreDamageUniqueBow10 (Volta), it would be preferable to change it to AttacksShockAsIfDealingMoreDamageUnique ?
coarse ermine
Moved "Creeping Frost (Debuff)" to "Creeping Ice" as the debuff was renamed in game. Have also updated all mentions of Creeping Frost (The debuff) to Creeping Ice, made sure links worked.
Also removed the "Not to be confused with X" lines on both the gem and debuff pages, as they no longer have matching names.
lusty hedge
I have update a bunch of unique items, more need to be done
bleak comet
No you shouldn't add, delete or edit modifier pages because they're pulled from the game data. You should just find the modifiers that makes the most sense in terms of stat text, modifier ids etc. But there are a lot of very similar mods, so it's not always easy to determine which is the correct one.
lusty hedge
I just change a modifier from Fog of War who was not updated, 3 sec cd -> 1 sec cd but yap I have find how to update
bleak comet
Fog of War is a skill though. And for some reason we haven't updated updated those with a bot.
silver furnace
Wiki doesn't have newest version of Voidbringer
Voidbringer: No longer increases the mana cost of skills by 40-80%. Now grants +40-80 to the mana cost of skills instead. Existing items are unaffected.
Came with harvest
lusty hedge
I currently updating all of unique item, just let me time
silver furnace
No worries; don't want to put pressure on you
lusty hedge
All of already existing uniques items has been updated (if there is no error :|)!
bronze sun
sour berry
not the right channel and in pob when you export there's an option to upload to pastebin and put the resulting url on your clipboard
toxic stone
lusty hedge
It's not the first time that it was reported, and i saw that "we" can't do nothing about it
on a post long ago
Because If I dont say shit it's gamepedia who manage ads so :/
raven bluff
fandom: "we 'care' about bad advertisements, please do all the work of tracking them down for us"
bleak comet
Seems rather standard procedure to me. Considering that the ads already are tailored to you and your browsing history using some advanced AI it shouldn't be wrong anyway... But I unfortunately have adblockers installed so I never get to be impressed by the targeted ads.
wind knot
Lol it's funny as all of my YouTube Reddit adds are talking me to sign up for a professional phyciatrist
cobalt bronze
_)
sharp topaz
if they cared they'd at least put the report ad button, idk under the ad?
raven bluff
...it shouldn't be wrong anyway...
@bleak comet I work in an advertising-adjacent industry and all I can really say to that is "lol"
rich widget
@raven bluff What's the alternative to having users report bad ads?
raven bluff
@rich widget https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/2369326 -- or managing the inventory themselves instead of relying on Google to feed it to them
rich widget
Isn't that what they're already doing? It goes hand-in-hand with users reporting bad ads.
raven bluff
no, what it sounds like they're doing is blocking individual ads after the fact, cf. https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/164657
which is obviously kind of a whack-a-mole situation
rich widget
It is, but from reading these docs it sounds like there's not much of an alternative.
raven bluff
I mean, the problem they're running into is that, if you allow them to, RMT/cheat/etc advertisers will always try to bid their way into relevant placements like their game wikis
hard heath
Should we put the harvest league mechanics in [[Harvest]] or [[The Sacred Grove]]?
bleak comet
I was thinking having the mechanics in [[Harvest]], if it was in sacred grove I think the page would become too large.
rich widget
Does anyone have screenshots of the new upgraded Harbinger items? Evidently the flavor text includes glyphs that do not display on the PoE website. I need to see what they are supposed to look like so that I can add them to the wiki.
tropic raven
The gem "descreation" doesn´t work for me. The ability cannot be used: "Turn on this spell when you fire projectiles with an untriggered wand attack." Cas someone help me, please?
rich widget
@tropic raven Does this question pertain to the wiki? If not, try one of the help channels.
opaque crystal
this is a necro but does poedb have the text vinifera?
i doubt it from what you're saying but worth a shotr
sour berry
it's because it's on spellslinger
rich widget
@opaque crystal Nope. I ended up whispering sellers of all the new Harbinger items and getting screenshots that way.
opaque crystal
oof
molten sedge
south zephyr
Hi! Did they changed the drop zone of crystal belt to new vastir?
The wiki seems outdated in this regard
stone crater
Tirn's End Tier 6 to 16
flat eagle
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fungal_ground
Fungal Ground Description: You deal less Damage due to enemy Fungal Ground
Stats: Allies on your Fungal Ground gain 10% of Non-Chaos Damage as extra Chaos Damage
So do I gain or do I loose.
sour berry
fungal ground is the debuff
sporeguard adds the bonus (via contaminate skill) presumably
raven bluff
Fungal Ground created by your Sporeguard is not "enemy Fungal Ground".
hard heath
where in the item template are all the info about seeds supposed to go? the wiki doesn't have this data stored anywhere and it's not technically an affix so
grand magnet
I'm working on that already
stone knoll
guys, on the Herald of Ash page, why is the quality description is in the Skill functions and interactions but not in the gem info?
jade mica
Simulacrum page misses items found in area section 😥
molten sedge
mild osprey
how do I add to the area restrictions here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Divine_Justice
mild osprey
thanks, worked nicely 🙂
grand magnet
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light linden
grand magnet
thanks
hard heath
seed enhancers still don't have any pages or data for them https://poedb.tw/us/HarvestPlantBooster
grand magnet
they have pages now and support in the template
grand magnet
While that is a sad truth, it has nothing to do with the wiki
hard heath
@grand magnet seed enhancers don't show up in queries
grand magnet
I'm pretty sure they do
hard heath
{{Query base item
|where=items.class="Harvest Plant Booster"
|large=1
|drop_level=1
|help_text=1
}}
is the class named something else
oh it's "Seed Enhancer"
rich widget
What is responsible for automatically categorizing protected templates into Category:Wikipedia fully-protected templates? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Category:Wikipedia_fully-protected_templates
raven bluff
analog abyss
The wiki need a cluster jewel notable version of https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Query_base_passive_skills/count
grand magnet
as long the passive skill ids are plugged into that it should work
elder hemlock
who in here is bored as hell. something might be off with 4 points between 336-341 (looks like im missing 336, 337, 338, 341 and they dont have a "DO NOT" requirement). for 340+341 combo: i do have 340 but oddly not 341.
analog abyss
who in here is bored as hell. something might be off with 4 points between 336-341 (looks like im missing 336, 337, 338, 341 and they dont have a "DO NOT" requirement). for 340+341 combo: i do have 340 but oddly not 341.
@elder hemlock you mean the notable passive count?
elder hemlock
uhh im pretty sure i posted a link 🤔 its the All Ears achievement https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/All_Ears
if i actually am missing 336-338 it might be that you cant enter prisoners gate or western forest before those. --- somewhere else i read for either 340, 341 or both "After talking to Nessa in Prisoner's Gate - Do NOT enter The Western Forest"
and that would also align with what i did: after 334 i pretty much rushed until after talking to nessa in cavern of anger. i have 344 for example.
i get an error when trying to create a fandom account so i cant edit anything.
grand magnet
The specific requirements may be something that can be pulled out of the game files
elder hemlock
Ok my new char just reached Act6 again. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/All_Ears 338 Sin Abberath disappears after killing Abberath, The Cloven One or entering The Valley of the Fire Drinker. Does not affect 336, 337, 339.
velvet vine
Is it possible to actually obtain this item? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Key_to_Decay Vendoring 4 fragments gives 4 scroll shards.
rich widget
@velvet vine As far as I can tell, it's not possible to obtain. You're meant to put the fragments into the map device, not vendor them.
gray stratus
suggestion to make the wiki better :
make that when we put the cursor on an effect (blind, fortify, ignite...), we see a short description of it.
(like for the gem and item)
(i tryed to change [[ignite]] to {{il|ignite}}, but it is not planned, it probably need that an admin program it)
grand magnet
il is item link and ignite is not an item
can probably make a template for keywords like that
rich widget
You can sort of already do this with Template:Tooltip, but it doesn't automatically pull in the content just from the name alone.
gray stratus
and would be even better if we could add something like this :
rich widget
I suggest expanding the functionality of Template:Status_link to show the tooltip
bleak comet
We have a simple template for this, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Status_link. It doesn't have the hoverbox yet though.
yeah^^
analog abyss
before using the template , a full check of icon pic is required. For example, "Chilled ground" use File:Chill status icon.png instead of upload a duplicate copy on File:Chilled Ground status icon.png namespace
devout loom
i'm interested in adding the Ascendancy circle pictures and I want to use this idea as a way to start learning how to edit wikis.
Is there a process in getting permission to add to the Path of Exile wiki?
bleak comet
You need to register an account, that's about it.
analog abyss
upload was disabled due to gamepedia hosting migration . Need to wait for gamepedia 's announcement
lusty hedge
Do we have a document, a template to respect ? Because I'm updating some of passives and notables one but they seems to be different "template" between. So ?
For exemple : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dual_Wield_Accuracy
I will only add "Dual Wield Accuracy is a basic passive skill." because the "that grants increased accuracy rating while dual wielding." is already in the description so seems repetitive ?
grand magnet
The wikitext may provide additional links and information
but im not sure we even really need a page for every minor passive in the first place
I suggest posting on the community portal on the wiki to get other editor's input on this
lusty hedge
Okay!
rotund terrace
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Horticrafting_Station
Lua error in Module:Util at line 852: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil).
seems like someone did something wrong?
lusty hedge
Strange...
grand magnet
I'll look into it
sour berry
the main page should be updated
also idk if https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Izaro's_Turmoil should be in the category instead of "random drop" because it's not a leaderboard reward
royal oracle
Well it is a random drop within a certain area it should not be under lab rewards at least and the jewel has a page where it does state where it drops if anybody would want the jewel
pure cipher
Divination card displays on the wiki seem krangled, both in Chromium-based Edge and Firefox Beta - https://i.imgur.com/BiN7iUC.png
Also affects the card display when hovering a card link.
rich widget
@pure cipher Hmm... I don't have this issue on Edge version 85.0.564.41, which uses the Chromium engine.
pure cipher
Not at the computer now, but it has IPv6 if that might affect something.
rich widget
I don't know how that would affect browser rendering.
grand magnet
it shouldn't if everything is working
I haven't checked if gamepedia uses ipv6 but I'd use it by default too
pure cipher
@rich widget It would if some content (particularly CSS) is hosted on a misconfigured domain.
Ah, it works on my other machine so may be Windows DPI-related.
Working box has 100%, bork box has 150%.
rich widget
@pure cipher I was able to reproduce by increasing zoom level to 150% then refreshing. Now I can't get it back to normal lol
I made a change to the MediaWiki:Common.css that should fix this. You'll need to refresh your browser's cache to see the change though, which is tricky in Edge.
rich widget
Cool!
lusty hedge
I just created the page : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Warcry_Buff_Effect
And the description seems to kept the updated and outdated ones
mint thunder
at a cursory glance, it appears the template searchs for [passive] skills that share a name. as the old pages for specific passives still exist (either via general historical safekeeping or etc.) it seems to still pull them in as relevant information ... someone smarter than me can maybe fix it ^^ ... not sure if different variations/powers of this passive exist, myself. but i suspect it will need to be dealt with regarding that
lusty hedge
Need to update the main page of the wiki with Heist : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
grand magnet
Heist is not released yet though
lusty hedge
Yes but this was changed before the league start. With the text "The league will begin on"
grand magnet
as long harvest is still running I don't see a reason to update it yet
there is going to be very little info aside from the press stuff on the new league anyway until it releases
lusty hedge
I find it a "shame" that the wiki does not give any information about the next upcoming league like with an additional tab, column
(Sorry for using the word "shame" but I don't know how to translate my idea properly in english)
rich widget
We've updated the main page to show the upcoming league in the past.
Usually it's updated within a week or so of the launch.
lusty hedge
Okay!
lusty hedge
I saw that many things don't have their icon. I currently add them manually but should I continue or you will add them with a bot ?
grand magnet
which ones are missing? Icons are more manuel process anyway, though they can mass exported for various things like items or passives
I've also just deleted unused passives
lusty hedge
Passives, Screenshots, MTX
grand magnet
screenshots will always need to taken and uploaded manually
lusty hedge
I just understand how to fix this page : https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Warcry_Buff_Effect
I changed the name of the outdated ones by adding (Old).
lusty hedge
There is a bug with References. It show this error : Cite error: <ref> tag defined in <references> has group attribute "" which does not appear in prior text.
sour berry
all of the individual scepter pages still lists one handed mace as the first link instead of https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Sceptres, same with lords of celebration pointing to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Mace#Sceptres
prisma frost
The Pain Attunement page shows Megalomaniac as a related Unique at earliest revision:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Pain_Attunement&direction=next&oldid=433489
With Unique query code:
|where=items.stat_text LIKE "%Pain%Attunement%"
|stat=1
|level=1
|large=1
}}```
AFAIK Megalomaniac does not grant Pain Attunement. I don't see any mention of ``stat_text`` on Megalomaniac's item definition and don't know where to go from there to fix this.The description for Megalomaniac includes "1 Added Passive Skill is Basics of Pain" and "1 Added Passive Skill is Fire Attunement" 🤣
Change the query to LIKE "%Pain Attunement%". No % in the middle
prisma frost
lol, so removing that middle % should work...
raven bluff
Yeah. It behaves like a wildcard
prisma frost
Yeah. I should have seen that. Thanks for noticing. 🙂 I've made the change and Megalomaniac's removed from the page. 👍
Course, I still don't see where it's pulling stat_text from. Is that just the item description, after any queries performed for that item?
For example The item definition has field {{:List of cluster jewel notable passive skills}} is what creates the list that includes the words 'Pain' and 'Attunement' but that is just on Megalomaniac's page, not embedded into the item definition. So I guess stat_text is just the entire wiki page (after queries build the page)?explicit3_random_list which grabs mods.id to create the list of possible mods (I guess the entire rendered item definition counts as stat_text). Oddly Ancestral Bond is in the same situation but doesn't appear to be affected. Maybe 'Ancestral' and 'Bond' are just too far apart (wildcard matching limit or truncating or something?).
bleak comet
If you go to the data page: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Passive_Skill:Pain~attunement1178, then click on Page Values (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Passive_Skill:Pain~attunement1178&action=pagevalues) you can see what stat_text or any other queryable field means.
These are hopefully explained in the template documentation as well.
prisma frost
@bleak comet Thanks, that adds some illumination. But yeah, I have no idea how to navigate there on my own or to find similar pages for other resources. 🤐
bleak comet
For passives you click on the link that appears in the infobox when you hoover over the stat text, then you will get to that data page.
Then you click on Page Values that's in the left sidebar under Tools and then you're there.
prisma frost
Taking pain attunement as an example: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Pain_Attunement Where is this stat text? 😐
bleak comet
30% more Spell Damage when on Low Life
prisma frost
Thanks, I was ignoring that '[1]'. 🤐 Don't suppose you know how to do the same magic for an item? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Megalomaniac The issue occurs because the query for Passives checks all uniques for that passive's text (ie: 'Pain' and 'Attunement', 'Ancestral' and 'Bond', 'Perfect' and 'Agony') which actually appear in some items' stat_text fields.
The issue's been worked around by removing the wild card so the queries now look for 'Pain Attunement', 'Perfect Agony' (Ancestral Bond wasn't affected for w/e reason so I left it alone), but it would still be nice to check out the actual stat_text field for Megalomaniac to see what's going on under the hood, as it were.
bleak comet
Items are defined directly on the main page. So just click on the Page Values to see what the queries sees.
I like to do %Pain%Attunement% because sometimes these words have wikilinks wrapped around them, like [[Pain]] [[Attunement]]. But as you've noticed it doesn't always work out.
raven bluff
Why would the words of "Pain Attunement" be linked separately? There's no page for "Pain" on the wiki
bleak comet
More as the default choice
since the stat text is created by a script it sometimes gets weird.
But sure it probably wasn't needed in this case.
prisma frost
Yeah, just as a general rule of thumb it makes sense.
I think it'd be great to have all these things cast to some sort of guid so we wouldn't have to resort to such fuzzy things as searching by string ids (this would also solve issues where a passive shares name with an item, Iron Grip and such). But that's probably more work than worth at this point. The few 'false positives' can be edited out like we did today. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
bleak comet
Sure ids CAN be used, for passives you have passive_skills.id already. But maintaining those queries manually is not possible, therefore we search the stat text to avoid having to redo the hundreds of queries every 3 months.
prisma frost
I just mean instead of something like where=items.stat_text LIKE "%Pain Attunement%" you'd have where=item_passives.passiveID = 'Passive_1178' or w/e (where item_passives is a relational table defining which passives can be found on which items). I understand that might be difficult to maintain. xD
bleak comet
yeah, that way the table results will never change. But not really what we want. We want tables that adds and removes results correctly whenever the data changes. But it's not easy to find that elusive, perfect and future proofed query.
prisma frost
Yeah, got that right. That method could use some sort of maintenance tool/bot to perform that kind of dynamic modification but ... that's all getting pretty far down the 'more work than worth' path. The system in place seems to work fine most of the time.
formal onyx
This page on the wiki is flawed. The link to "Atlas of Worlds" does not bring you to a page on the Incursion room like it is supposed to in its context https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ahuana,_Architect_of_Ceremonies
Although there is a page on the Incursion room that you can access by going to the page on Office of Cartography and using the functional link there https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Atlas_of_Worlds_(incursion_room)
prisma frost
@formal onyx fixed 👌
prisma frost
Make sure you do a full refresh on the page. The page has 2 links to Atlas of Worlds: under the 'Areas' section and in the 'Location(s)' field in the box on the right. Both were changed to point to the Atlas of Worlds (incursion room) page.
formal onyx
Alright, it's working
analog abyss
So, after 3.11.2 patch the Pypoe need to be rewrite right? Since GGG will retire one big ggpk system it seems
stone crater
we have no idea what will be changed in 3.11.2, maybe no more ggpk system
lusty hedge
If the content change, I think we will need to do it manually before it can be do automatically
analog abyss
it always, but no way and not practical to update mod value if GGG encrypt the new file system
pure cipher
I'd find it unlikely that they'd cripple the rather "essential" ecosystem in that way without player backlash, but time will tell. We'll find out soon enough, but at least we're not dealing with Blizzard 🙂
livid meteor
Hi all , Im really confuse right now , about how to use Fractured fossil , on wiki " It's also a comparatively inexpensive way to duplicate Labyrinth Enchantments.
Five of them can be used to duplicate basetypes by selling five copies to a vendor to receive a non-mirrored, unidentified item. " I did it , but it did not happen like that , Am I missing something ?
pure arrow
probably because of the sells for much more to vendors implicit
livid meteor
hmm ... I think it cant be duplicate anymore , that why the base like that cost 40 exa.
but I dont know for sure , I just play this game for 1 year ^^
still swift
the "sells for more to vendors" overrides vendor recipes
livid meteor
thank you for information, maybe I will try another
analog abyss
5 to 1 did not apply to influenced base either
rich widget
No more GGPK it seems...
stone crater
it's still GGPK, check #tooldev-general
analog abyss
Sill downloading via steam. Probably instead of fetching cdn url for pic (directly in png) to upload to wiki, may be back to the old way of exporting dds is fine and faster
stone crater
pic should be fine as before, but .dat and stat_descriptions
pure cipher
Wrong game 😉
lusty hedge
All the content from the Harvest patch 3.11.0 is now updated on the wiki.
lusty hedge
I just seen someone linked his video to explain a boss mechanic on the wiki. What is our regulation on Self-promoting ?
grand magnet
I don't mind as long it's informative and not unfair in some fashion (say user deleting other videos in favour of his own)
Might take action if someone only uses it advertising platform
lusty hedge
Hmm... I understand, I will keep an eye on it
analog abyss
Personally i only mind the video is entirely wrong on info or not, such as add / boss name, what moves.
So far video made by Huizui is fairly correct . Not sure are there new youtuber emerged and add themselves to wiki or not.
Also, someone else had used my blind run as video playthough, i don't mind someone else to add others video. But i once did but seem the video was then took private
lusty hedge
Someone have put his videos on Piety, Dominus, Malachai pages. The format seems correct so I let them
rich widget
Quality videos are few and far between, so I actually don't have that much of a problem with self promotion insofar as an editor is putting up their own video on the wiki. Replacing an existing video is fine too, as long as the newer video contains more accurate information or is a noticeably higher quality video.
bitter sorrel
would be nice if GGG could at least provide Omega_K2 with updated info for stuff already on the wiki (gems, prophecies etc)
bitter sorrel
is there any reason not to use {{PAGENAME}} on the wiki?
grand magnet
If we can't decipher the format entirely I'll try to find the important files by hand so we can at least get mods and gems updated
analog abyss
at least they have https://www.pathofexile.com/public/news/2020-09-15/mods.html
just nightmare to manually update the mod in wiki. Also the table are without mod id
grand magnet
yeah that isn't really any useful
bitter sorrel
i'm surprised there still isn't an API or w/e for a lot of this
grand magnet
I've been asking since before 2.0 I kinda gave up on that
bitter sorrel
yeah :\
rich widget
is there any reason not to use {{PAGENAME}} on the wiki?
@bitter sorrel {{PAGENAME}} is useful for templates where the name of the page is variable depending on where the template is being transcluded.
However if it's possible to substitute the page name for static text, for example in an article, then use {{subst:PAGENAME}}.
bitter sorrel
@rich widget I meant on standard pages, not templates. afaik there's no performance penalty as it's a "magic word", and it is handy if you rename/move a page.
analog abyss
Is it fine to manually update gem infobox at this moment ? any break thought on pypoe on new file format?
I saw someone start to do so on Discharge gem
pure cipher
@analog abyss Bundles are a solved problem, pypoe work is underway according to commit logs.
humble eagle
anyone know what classes get flame wall at lvl 4?
pure cipher
@humble eagle Changes in rewards are listed in the patch notes.
grand magnet
it's gonna be a bit with all those changes, I'll probably have to redo a large portion of the wiki exporter core. Not to mention any changes to the dat files also need to be worked out
cerulean token
Anyone know if salvo and/or firewall could be a reward for a Shadow ?
pure cipher
@cerulean token You can consult the patch notes for the changes in quest rewards.
cerulean token
Ok I wil lsearch there
fallen osprey
How do i add a card drop location to the wiki?
Got The white knight in trial of stinging doubt
fallen osprey
ty
analog abyss
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Replica_Bitterdream
Lua error in Module:Util at line 308: <span class="module-error">Module Error: Heist is not a recognized league</span>.
bleak comet
Should be fixed now. Added Heist as an allowed league in Module:Game.
analog abyss
thanks
scenic harness
unexpected prize seems to drop in residence maps
polar marlin
Is the new elemental penetration support gem crafting recepi still a mistery, i mean does anybody know how to craft it/get it? I mean i started thinking about it, but vendoring the new Replica Bitterdream
Shadow Sceptre only gives a Fire Res Pen.
When u vendor it*
raven bluff
Do we know whether it's obtainable at all? There's precedent for item-only supports, like the Greater Spell Echo in Pledge of Hands
karmic chasm
it's listed on the gem info announcement
analog abyss
it was once sold for 1.5ex and it seem a done deal and never saw another listing again
reddit has quite a few rumour and I don't bother to add to wiki again unless i (or other editor) test the recipe themselves
analog abyss
ok, anyone reproduce it? https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ixhxh2/ok_im_not_going_to_be_a_jerk_and_im_going_to_tell/
if we can reproduce the gem from that recipe, then we can add to wiki
grave panther
Reddit comment said that you can place Offering to the Goddess + Map in map device to get guaranteed Lab Trial spawn. Is this true? Very important for SSF players to ease end game trial hunting. Wiki does not mention anything about it in Map fragment, Offering to the Goddess or Map device articles. Could someone test/confirm?
pure cipher
@grave panther Is bullshit, "Activation failed."
grave panther
@grave panther Is bullshit, "Activation failed."
@pure cipher Thank you for testing! Back to grinding low tier maps and Zana missions then 😫
analog abyss
reddit is full of troll.....
plush swallow
@grave panther there's a prophecy you can use for a trial iirc. Also try global chat 820 people share there often.
grave panther
Yeah prophecy farming too, thats also good for Pale Court. SSF so chat 820 not helpful.
analog abyss
ok, saw Infused Beachhead in Heist league trade , and ilvl is not 80 (thus not from card).....There are way many thing that break the impression of league-specific item and make "| drop_leagues =" kind of pointless (especially those league mechanics that became core. Pointless to tag fated item as prophecy for example )
raven bluff
eh, it still makes sense for items which are truly league-bound like headhunter and whatnot
analog abyss
It still make more confusion . The templated msg may need more rework when "| drop_leagues =" is not null . For example , Maloney's Mechanism is "Synthesis-league" exclusive, but it seems the quiver is acquired primary from card or incubator or other generic source to acquire league-specific item, rather than from Synthesis Unique Map
flat grotto
есть русские ?
molten sedge
The list of divination cards is broken https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Divination_card
analog abyss
the problem is no such Synthesis / Harvest (or older Talisman ) league flag in core game and quite a lot of stuff drop elsewhere
grand magnet
yes there isn't for some league content but for other items, say headhunter ther eis
if the drop isn't specific to the league flag don't use the parameter simple as that
If some items use this the wrong way feel free to remove it
rich widget
So here's a question then: Should Breach uniques have drop_leagues = Breach? They drop specifically from Breach monsters, not from any monsters in areas with the league flag for Breach active.
Furthermore, the upgraded ones don't drop at all.
grand magnet
they shouldn't in that case
it's what drop_monsters is for
since it's monster specific and not league-flag specific
rich widget
Makes sense.
rich widget
So do we think this looks correct? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Anticipation
raven bluff
Hmm. Are we certain those drops are specific to the monsters and not to the breach environment? e.g. is it possible that The Anticipation could drop from a generic Breach monster like It That Watches in a phys breach?
rich widget
I thought of that too. I'm not sure.
raven bluff
It'd be damned hard to tell the difference.
rich widget
Yeah. It would be super hard to test.
rich widget
I am on board with using the drop_league parameter on items that can only drop from monsters when a league flag is active, as recommended by @grand magnet.
However, that means the definition of "league-specific item" needs to be changed, assuming you can get Breach and Bestiary uniques from Time-Lost Relic. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Time-Lost_Relic
still swift
i've seen a lot of those opened, don't think i ever saw a breach item or bestiary item from it
or from other cards that give league-specific uniques, but don't specify them
the bestiary uniques are boss drops anyway, boss drops don't drop from that card im psure
analog abyss
any way, the league flag for Great Harbinger unique are chopped as it seem primary they are from upgrade recipe only
while the Infused Beachhead the league flag should retain for now until we figure out the new source of this map (or can we use Harbinger 's Orb on T16 actually?)
grand magnet
I don't think time lost gives those uniques but I'm not sure either
In regards to the gem quality I'm thinking of adding some buttons to switch between the alternate quality versions of the gems
winged lantern
is it known if diviner strongboxes can drop any div card in the game? i recently got an alluring bounty from a diviner strongbox in arid lake
raven bluff
As far as I'm aware, diviner's strongboxes can drop any div card.
rich widget
I wonder whether it's worth mentioning that in the acquisition section for each div card.
raven bluff
Personally, I'd say that acquisition sections are already too noisy. Mentioning paths like Jack in the Box for every single unique item is not really useful
flat eagle
Diviner's Strongboxes (and Stacked Decks) can drop any card in the game, even those that're content (Map/Boss/League/Zone) gated.
analog abyss
I am rather curious on "The Putrid Cloister" boss. She drop any card too?
grand pollen
so, is skill importing broken?
the Active Skill Gem page has no new gems, and the old ones are not updated
analog abyss
there is new file system....
grand magnet
it wasn't trivial to update everything, so it took longer then usual but skill gems are updated now
lusty hedge
The query is bugged now
Like, I've try many things to make Quality Stats working but nothing work. And if I understood good is because it's not added in the cargo / items files
grand magnet
just needs to be updated, is_quality_stat doesn't exist anymore
lusty hedge
How ? If I can help
grand magnet
quality stuff is in skill_quality and skill_quality_stats tables now
lusty hedge
Okay, I try it
grand magnet
updated https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_bleed_related_skill_gems as example
most of the pages will need to be u pdated in the same fashion
lusty hedge
Okay!
But look at the Impale page, the query code is different
Like more polished, it this the new one or ?
analog abyss
some query (i.e. unique) use stat text some use stat id some use mod id, etc . For query gem quality most of them should use "skill_quality"
lusty hedge
A bunch of gems have their base duration totally broken like some goes from 3 seconds to 12,2787272e48 etc...
How did it happen ?
grand magnet
fixed now
hard heath
need the skill data for Call of Steel
analog abyss
need correct skill id first
lusty hedge
Alternate quality on gems is bugged on mobile. All of the alternative quality succeed like : 0.5%10%-05% Area of EffectCastSpeedCooldown
grand magnet
use desktop version
rich widget
Everything is bugged on mobile and there's too many other things that need to be done on the wiki for me to bother fixing it. 
lusty hedge
Especially that most of the users of the wiki use the desktop version
molten sedge
Splitting Steel has a green icon but it's listed with the red gems: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Navbox_Skills
lusty hedge
Requirement in Dexterity / Strength and maybe Intelligence (didn't check) of many skills are wrong. They seems to be +1 than the real numbers
eternal crater
The wiki will be migrating to the UCP on Monday morning.
English first, then the others to follow
analog abyss
Splitting Steel has a green icon but it's listed with the red gems: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Navbox_Skills
@molten sedge the gem is an outlier. Usually green gem are dex gem that dex requirement > str/int requirement . But Splitting Steel is not. So, it is a green color str (and dex) gem.
The temple code can be fixed BTW
Requirement in Dexterity / Strength and maybe Intelligence (didn't check) of many skills are wrong. They seems to be +1 than the real numbers
@lusty hedge Any example? Also this is the official table https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2936080
and i have a lot of 20/20 gem in-game in standard to compare to the official site list and the wiki infobox
rich widget
So Splitting Steel is a strength gem, but must be socketed in green sockets? That's odd... I wonder if that's intentional.
analog abyss
also in case any "error" purge the page first. Sometimes null edit also works .
mean while still waiting the template content is updated for https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Predator_Support
it is not showing up as vendor reward despite edited the moulde already
bleak comet
I think Predator should show up now. The templates that stores to the cargo tables seem to require a null edit as well.
grand magnet
they do
I'll decentralize quest rewards again since they're not longer contained in the g ame d ata
to each relevant page
so it's easier to edit
bleak comet
yeah that sounds good.
bitter sorrel
Blast Rain page: Deals (30-35.599999999999994)% of Base Attack Damage
analog abyss
it seems another round up error by the bot
also these issue you can DM OmegaK2 as he is the admin that run the bot
(or may be not. There is no issue on parameter level20_damage_multiplier, just bugged on gem text. Time to check i have 20/0 Blast Rain or not...)
and yes i have....fixed
eternal crater
The english wiki is now live on UCP. please let me know if you find any issues
rich widget
It's no biggie, but I notice that the wiki skin appears to change when viewing your preferences. https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:Preferences
lilac snow
there are two notable passive skill pages that appear to do the same thing where one passive skill is no longer in the game.https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Indomitable
I suppose the mechanics are the same so mechanics from the old passive skill could be added to the new passive skill? I found the old skill linked from the Belt of the Deceiver page.
signal sleet
The search function of the wiki is hella broken with the update today. It's really, really bad.
I can search for "notable passives" and it's like nope, nothing found. Sorry.
but search for Notable Passive and it's like oh yeah, here you go champ
please revert this "updated" wiki framework to the thing that actually works.
analog abyss
there are two notable passive skill pages that appear to do the same thing where one passive skill is no longer in the game.https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Indomitable
@lilac snow it seems the node renamed
The english wiki is now live on UCP. please let me know if you find any issues
@eternal crater is the user right has changed so that normal user cannot "move page without create redirect" ?
bleak comet
Yeah, should probably look up what the original user settings were. We also want only registered users to be allowed editing.
lilac snow
@analog abyss, the original sanctum of thought page had a link when the passive skill was introduced, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Version_3.7.0#Passive_Tree_Balance
analog abyss
just open a POB.......it is the exact notable of 2.6.....
patch note false claim it is a "new" notable.....
or "20% reduced Effect of Curses on you " is new
lilac snow
probably new/renamed is the same thing, no need to think too much about it
analog abyss
just need admin to fix parallel article if we want to preserve page history of the new article Sanctum of Thought
or the "trick" way, move the new version to another name without create redirect, and move the old article to new name . and lastly turn the other version as a new redirect . Just the function "move without create redirect" is missing from UI
raven bluff
A wiki admin should be able to fix things up using https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:MergeHistory
analog abyss
@eternal crater is the user right is reset ? So that non-admin user need to regain rights? Because i can't create article "Cooked Alive"
NVM, just database delay
analog abyss
@eternal crater ok, the search seems broken (or due to database delay or indexing?) Search only return article that the article name is matching the search word, but it never return result that the search word is matching a word in a body paragraph of other article.
eternal crater
Yes, it may take up to 24 hrs to fully reindex
analog abyss
thanks
eternal crater
Yeah, should probably look up what the original user settings were. We also want only registered users to be allowed editing.
@bleak comet i've restored the permission settings
eternal crater
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Dual_wielding#Simultaneous_attacks Cargo error. can someone take a look?
thanks
bleak comet
It's an expected error. quality stats are not in that cargo table anymore, so no need for those bools.
bleak comet
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@eternal crater Is it just me getting these notices?
bleak comet
It's a quite intrusive notice box too, if I try clicking on More to get the dropdown menu and attempt to move a page the dropdown will disappear because the notice box has higher priority I assume.
bleak comet
ah well, I'm on firefox if that matters.
eternal crater
i'll try there
yeah, it's still fine
The other-language wikis are about to be migrated to the UCP
in order: ru, de, fr, es
-ru has started
-de has started
-fr has started
-es has started
All language wikis are migrated. Please let me know if you see anything
grand magnet
👍
signal sleet
thanks for fixing the searching issue, whoever you are
strange saffron
@eternal crater - At the bottom of the pages there is an indentation, is it css fixing, or a more global problem?
stone crater
it's an ads revert area
eternal crater
it is being looked into
bleak comet
@eternal crater the signature button that was available in the editor seems to have disappeared.
eternal crater
it seems like it is only on talk pages?
bleak comet
aha, kind of weird? I wanted to use it on the Admin noticeboard page.
rich widget
LaTeX math expressions appear to be borked. Is that new or was it like that before the migration?
sour berry
seems new
molten sedge
rich widget
@molten sedge They haven't vandalized any pages, so I'm not sure there's grounds to take any action.
raven bluff
Are those comments even associated with the PoE wiki, or are they part of some shared Fandom thing?
rich widget
Profile comments do appear to be localized.
grand magnet
yeah they're local
analog abyss
The accounts seems like ad account. There is a link to a page in facebook. Who know google use what method to rank the page in their search result....
pure cipher
Considering the term “roblox” in one of the profiles, I wonder if it’s just kids.
rich widget
I think I used to be able to edit users' social media links if they were linking to bad stuff. Don't know whether it's needed here, but it seems I can no longer do that.
rich widget
What is responsible for populating the list of area restrictions for atlas region-specific base types? Convoking Wand is supposed to drop in Port, but that's not one of the maps listed.
grand magnet
the pages are not ... updating with null edits
nevermind they are, at least on port map
on the convoking wand page it's a cache issue though
via blank edit it shows up
As for how the stuff is done, the data is on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:Atlas/atlas_base_item_types and it's applied to items via drop_areas function in item module
rich widget
Ah, so null editing everything updates it?
manic blaze
Hopefully fixed the math:template
Can anybody check if deleting \pagecolor caused any trouble elsewhere?
bleak comet
Must have happened with the UCP upgrade, I looked at the template just a couple of weeks ago and it looked fine then. I don't remember what \pagecolor was for though but maybe it's simply not needed anymore.
hard heath
any idea when all the new items are gonna be added to the wiki
analog abyss
as a unique hoarder i am trying to buy all replica , but it also take time to create article for unique one by one. Other unique items , if it drops enabled ,pretty sure other editors may add it ASAP
grand magnet
I've added the equipment today, support for other items such as contracts and blueprint will be coming later
hard heath
all the query tables broke
grand magnet
seems to be caused by the recent move to the new platform, will be fixed soon I think
should be fixed now
analog abyss
ok, it seem more "hacked" profile https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/UserProfile:Bryce1234gogete
rich widget
I don't actually care if people write nonsense messages on their own profiles. If this person's account was actually hacked they can contact Fandom support.
grand magnet
does someone know why pages without script errors keep appearing in https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Category:Pages_with_script_errors
I'm trying to find pages that actually have problems and most of the mdont
I can fix the categories with null-edits but pages just keep appearing there
autumn pine
You can condense essences. 3x = 1 higher tier. But I can't find this information on wikia, can u make sure if it is there and update it?
rich widget
It's described on the Essence article. It should be added to the vendor recipe system article too if it isn't already.
grand magnet
it's also on e very relevant essence page
assuming the wiki software doesnt fuck up
haughty light
bleak comet
Not anymore.
hushed edge
i saw multiple pages with errors like Module Error: Item link: No results found for search parameter "Maze of the Minotaur Map" is this already known and can be fixed globally or do all pages with that error need to be fixed manually?
grand magnet
every page needs to be blank edited
still swift
question about wiki cargo table stuff, i can get the first 500 results with &limit=500 (because that's the max limit afaik), wondering how I can get the next batch of results (501-1000?)
nvm got it, have to do some kind of multirequest thing like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Special:CargoExport&tables...
hard heath
is there a way to organize tables by drop level?
bleak comet
I added an example on offsetting a limited query in https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki:Data_query_API. Feel free to improve it.
grand magnet
if you login your limit is 5000 btw
narrow compass
question
with the alternate zealotry with the crit multi does it give you just 5% or does it give you more?
sour berry
not exactly a wiki question
devout loom
Is the description of Corruption still correct? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Corruption even though ingame it doesn't talk about damage over time ?
rich widget
@devout loom No, the description should be updated.
formal onyx
Is this page still accurate? I thought they changed Evasion to make it so there's no longer a minimum of 5% of maximum of 95% https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Evasion
rich widget
@formal onyx As far as I know, it's accurate. Can you locate any manifestos or patch notes that say that it was changed?
eternal crater
if given the option would y'all want fandom style discussions / article comments
pure cipher
Like the sea of comments below any page that contains a mix of useful and outdated information and angry fights?
eternal crater
pretty much
pure cipher
Gut feeling is that it is more valuable on wikis that have a lot of user-sourced material and less so on one which has a lot of mining behind it.
eternal crater
alright, thanks
formal onyx
I'm probably wrong about that then. I might be thinking of crit chance that had its caps removed.
raven bluff
@rich widget 3.7.0 patch notes: "Accuracy is no longer capped to a 95% chance to hit." -- and hence, there's no longer a 5% base chance to evade
pure cipher
@molten echo I believe the data table for that in the game files was removed early in Heist.
As for what happened on the wiki, I don't know 🙂
bleak comet
They've been removed for now because as mentioned they can no longer be maintained by bots.
sour berry
not sure if it counts as a strength skill in-game but it requires higher str than dex I guess https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Navbox_Skills
bitter sorrel
if given the option would y'all want fandom style discussions / article comments
@eternal crater no thanks 🙂
analog abyss
for gem. I think OmegaK2 has mention that the quest / vendor reward will be decentralized due to the data no longer inside the ggpk.
~~Editor can still add 3.12 gems to https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:Quest_reward/data/quest_rewards and https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:Quest_reward/data/vendor_rewards~~ (edit: read below)
if you know how to do it
not sure if it counts as a strength skill in-game but it requires higher str than dex I guess https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Navbox_Skills
@sour berry still haven't try to socket in item with "+1 to socketed dex gem" (or str gem mod) to test it . Not sure in game it follow the color or attribute requirement
bleak comet
Nah, editing the quest reward module doesn't work anymore either. Because the actual storing of that data has been turned off: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Quest_reward/cargo/quest_rewards?diff=606715&oldid=559003 So don't put effort into that.
analog abyss
need to find a internet cafe since my internet was cut. Forced upgrade to fibre wire but my apartment does not have that tech.....
sour berry
just tested it on a limbsplit, it didn't gain +1 level
rich widget
So if Strength Gems = Red Gems, then why do some modifiers mention "Strength Gems" while others mention "Red Gems"? 
red bear
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Breach
Please fix it
molten sedge
Portal gem is missing quality https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Portal_(gem)
glossy rivet
Error:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ghost_Reaver
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Essentia_Sanguis
Ghost Reaver page claims that Essentia Sanguis doesn't grant GR, and thus, taking GR grants an additional benefit. Essentia Sanguis' page claims the opposite.
rich widget
@glossy rivet The info regarding Essentia Sanguis on the Ghost Reaver article is outdated. However, everything on the Essentia Sanguis article appears to be correct.
glossy rivet
@rich widget I assumed that was the case, but didn't want to editorialize, cause I didn't know, but I DID know there was an error, so I was reporting it.
hard heath
is there any way to get the skill data for Call of Steel? it's not on poedb
pure cipher
What kind of data? It's one of those weird granted ones kind of like Focus and Aspects, right?
thick drift
The wiki no longer shows who and where you can acquire skill gems
still swift
that information was removed from the game files that were used to automatically update the system, @thick drift
thick drift
aha, anywhere else I could find that info?
pure cipher
poedb has legacy information still
thick drift
Thanks
sour berry
that's not a warcry https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/General's_Cry#Alternate_skill_effects can anybody with the mtx check if the tooltip is bugged in-game?
hard heath
for whatever reason the query in the Action speed page is broken
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Action_speed
using this query just stalls until it stops working
items.stat_text LIKE "%action%speed%" OR skill.stat_text LIKE "%action%speed%"
but if you query those two conditions individually it doesn't cause problems
rich widget
@hard heath The error it shows for me is "MySQL server has gone away", which would seem to indicate an underlying MySQL configuration problem, rather than a mistake in your query.
hard heath
yeah doesn't seem to be a bad query
analog abyss
that's not a warcry https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/General's_Cry#Alternate_skill_effects can anybody with the mtx check if the tooltip is bugged in-game?
@sour berry fixed by running pypoe and cover the first half of the infobox with datamine data
raven bluff
Try changing %action%speed% to %action speed%? The double % makes it search for stat text containing "action" followed at any point by "speed", which is more complicated for the database to search for and might match unintended strings like "causes an allergic reaction and reduces your movement speed" (not a real stat).
My guess is that the combination of those two wildcards is making the query take too long and get automatically killed by something on the back end
rich widget
Good idea, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem. It's curious that it works just fine with either of the two WHERE conditions, but not both.
raven bluff
stares at the query a little more
I think it's an index problem on one of the joins.
If the skill.stat_text condition is removed, most of the joins drop out entirely and the query can just look at items. If the items.stat_text condition is removed, the query can start at the skill end and search for item mods granting that skill. With both conditions, it's forced to start from the item side, and maybe it's getting hung up trying to map out all the item mods which grant skills
bleak comet
The Action speed-query processed it just fine when I added it back then.
I wonder if the database has gotten larger now that is causing the problems or if it is the UCP-switch? @eternal crater any changes in MySQL configuration?
grand magnet
there were a bunch of mysql issues
maybe it's still related to the collations stuff a few eeks ago
bronze jungle
Hey Fam, is it just me or does gamepedia no longer list what quests you can get skill gems from? I thought each skill gem page had the quests that you can get it from, by class, and then also what merchants sell them... am I miss remembering?
still swift
they removed that information from the game files, so can't be done automatically anymore
poedb has a historical list though
bleak comet
It seems important to show outdated lists.
grand magnet
quest rewards are now part of the item template
and should be added back to the relevant pages, based of the old pre 3.12.0 rewards
red bear
FeelsBadMan
raven bluff
@red bear wrong capitalization https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Awakened_Cast_While_Channelling_Support
stone crater
Cast while Channelling Support vs. Awakened Cast While Channelling Support
red bear
I used link for awakened cast while channeling from page that describes casual cast while channeling
and its was guide me to page that doesn't exist. somebody did fixed it.
flat ridge
Is the wiki ok? every page is like this for me
eternal crater
it should be better now
pure cipher
(not on the wiki, but poedb has them named)
raven bluff
@molten echo Yes, the ordering of alternate qualities is consistent. 1=superior, 2=anomalous, 3=divergent, 4=phantasmal.
molten ferry
anyone aware that there are db issues on the wiki?
will take a look to see if there are other examples or if it's just that page
other pages (such as item lists) running db queries appear to be fine, looks like it's just this one
raven bluff
ugh, loss of quest rewards data claims another victim
molten ferry
requiasat in pace
grand magnet
I'll fix it later
grand magnet
It seems like... the bot I used to copy over the old quest rewards failed on non-gem pages :/ but that page and any other item tables referencing quest rewards should work I think
alpine epoch
Hi, I'm new to that server so I don't know if this is known already (I read about quest reward data loss). For Immortal Call there is currently no class restriction for the Act 4 vendor reward after completing "breaking the seal". But I also saw an edit of that page regarding this problem but it still does not show up correctly. cheers
alpine epoch
Yes, that's the one I was talking about. I am playing Shadow and I don't have the option to buy Immortal Call. Talked to others and they say its only available for Marauder, Templar, Duelist, Scion at this point of the game.
grand magnet
I'll look at it again I swear the quest rewards are haunting me :<
alpine epoch
👍 and sorry 🙂
rich widget
Question: What does the is_drop_restricted parameter of the item template do? When should it be used?
The documentation states that it should be "set to true if the item can't be obtained through ordinary means," but it doesn't elaborate on what qualifies as ordinary means.
grand magnet
differentiating between regular monster and restricted drops basically, it is used for the auto upgraded from in divination cards
league restriction for example will set it automatically
It would be set on anything that wouldn't show up as random unique without special settings set, it's a bit of a shorthand
set automatically for
if tpl_args[var] then
return true
end
end
for _, flag in ipairs({'is_prophecy', 'is_blight_item'}) do
if tpl_args._flags[flag] then
return true
end```I'm not seeing that it's used in the Item module. Is it used in queries somewhere?
grand magnet
core.automatic_upgraded_from_defaults = {
is_drop_restricted = h.conditions.factory.arg{arg='is_drop_restricted', value=false},
is_corrupted = h.conditions.factory.arg{arg='is_corrupted', value=false},
}```
wooden mural
Yo who ever has done this: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Atlas_of_Worlds_(interactive)
This is awesome, been looking for something like this for a while. Its little clunky, but it works.
grand magnet
I've done that a while ago. LMK if you have any specific suggestions in mind
elfin violet
idk if possible but is there a way to add in watchstones so you can see what tier each region gets per watchstone @grand magnet
analog abyss
already able to do. just click the button on the name of the region'
rich widget
MediaWiki page titles can contain quotation marks. What are the technical limitations mentioned here? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Nameless_Play
rich widget
Ah. It looks like the extra quotes screw up the cargo query.
I wonder if that can be fixed by escaping the quotes in the item module.
Or the cargo module, rather.
bleak comet
I guess _pageID could be used instead of the _pageName
rich widget
Hmm, yeah that's not a bad idea.
flat eagle
Russian wiki nominated on "Wiki of the Month" contest
https://community.fandom.com/ru/wiki/Форум:Вики_Месяца/Ноябрь/2020_-_Gamepedia
support one of 4 challengers if you have a account
grand magnet
Seems like you'll loose against minecraft :(
flat eagle
will see)
rich widget
The wiki seems to be having server issues at the moment.
rich widget
@eternal crater Following the UCP migration, I'm no longer able to edit certain pages in the MediaWiki namespace, including ones that I had edited or created myself before. Here's an example of one such page that I can no longer edit: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/MediaWiki:Scribunto-doc-page-show
eternal crater
it is a known issue. for now just let me know any edits you want
rich widget
Well, it's not urgent that I be able to edit these, but I hope it's being looked into.
noble wigeon
ok, I'll stop trying to understand how your wiki works, it's a pain in the ass. at least it seems that I found a place (here) to summit errors/missing info ? If so : divergent flamebast quality is incorrect, "2% less cast speed" is missing. regards.
jade mica
3.12.4
Fixed a bug where Divergent Flameblast's Less Cast Speed effect was not displayed.
TY. Incinerate page wrongly mention herald of agony as a source of flat damage
(unless you have something that allow fire hits to apply poison)
and even so it would just give more virulence staks, not flat dmg
noble wigeon
I just dropped a Nebulis. Seems there is no longuer the "40% increased Elemental Damage" implicit.
analog abyss
It just display error. Nebulis is a pre-synthesised item and will always replace the original implicit, but in wiki there is no way to cancel it yet from the display template
for alt quality, it may need another pypoe export. Anyone can update the wiki article if know how to operate pypoe.
analog abyss
ok, fixed Flameblast alt effect. But it seem GGG forget to make the Sunder change live. The gem quality effect seem (according to UI), still grant increased Area of Effect
analog abyss
While for Incinerate , it seems the sentence was written long time ago and outdated. Have some fix but the math is still wrong
jade rock
how do i open editing mode in my hideout
cerulean wagon
If you don't see it on the bottom of your screen, there should be an arrow on the left of your ability's bar that should pull it up
rich widget
@eternal crater Hey boss man, you want to do me a favor and make a change to this message: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/MediaWiki:Scribunto-doc-page-header
Please change to this:
<!-- This message is intentionally left blank. -->
eternal crater
ok
rich widget
Thanks
upbeat jolt
rich widget
@eternal crater When you get a moment, please change this message https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/MediaWiki:Pagecategorieslink
to this: Category:Path of Exile Wiki
eternal crater
ok
rich widget
tyvm
fiery cypress
Hey I’m just starting maps what should I do to farm currency
elfin violet
run maps
pure cipher
@grand magnet The interactive atlas on the wiki, will the history for it work when the league data changes over? I've got some people curious about past map connectivity for the future.
flat eagle
If noone del pages/scripts of course/ you just need a link on past revision
pure cipher
Reason I wonder is because I'm not overly familiar with the dynamic stuff like cargo and how that changes.
flat eagle
me neither, only risk remains - Fandom delete/replace Cargo with something else
analog abyss
Start to worry about the emerge of https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/User:Wonderfl which contribute a lot, but don't read talk page and never care category or naming convention or other rule.....
analog abyss
nvm....he finally located his profile page....
cloud oak
for whomever is interested, here is a list of missing replica uniques
Replica Headhunter
Replica Iron Commander
Replica Alpha's Howl
replica fragile bloom
replica loreweave
replica karui ward
replica duskdawn
replica abyssus
replica wings of entropy
replica victario's charity
replica kalisa's grace
replica cold iron point
replica red trail
replica lioneye's paws
replica tempestuous steel
replica prismweave
replica tukohama's fortress
replica oro's sacrifice
replica volkuur's guidance```I have most of them and missing one can be found in poe forum thread. Just my internet melt down and still using mobile broadband for months
Just need someone to use explicit[n]_text or if they can, search the mod id and use explicit[n] parameter
abstract iron
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Melee_skill still vandalised
analog abyss
i don't understand. the article your linked need update but i don't saw any obvious vandalism. Also, try login and purge the page. The backend vandalism via lua has been caught and restore, the editor that made those edit was blocked temporarily .
jade mica
Really appreciate work to add this navigation. Huge QoL for new players that discover past leagues content. Missed it compared to other popular wikis like minecraft. Hope you will continue adding it to more previous leagues. 
rich widget
It's great, isn't it? Wonderfl has done a nice job on those.
pale bone
Where are usually spawned corrupted portals?
molten sedge
This is an RMT website - https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Currency?curid=636&diff=661676&oldid=661669
green agate
Did the layout of the website change? it suddenly turned weird for me
rich widget
Did the layout of the website change? it suddenly turned weird for me
Might be a glitch. What does it look like?
green agate
Might be a glitch. What does it look like?
Looks like the mobile version, but i use pc
when i use edge it works fine only in chrome fucked up
analog abyss
did the url has .m. in it? or click use desktop site at the bottom?
rich widget
@eternal crater I wonder if you can help me with something. I'm getting a spam filter error when attempting to create Category:Widget documentation.
eternal crater
will report the false positive
on that note, it would be a good idea to move this stuff off of widgets if possible.
rich widget
What do you mean?
rich widget
@eternal crater I'm now getting blocked from editing widgets by the spam filter. Is there some way for me to report this to get a quick resolution?
eternal crater
what widget are you editing
rich widget
eternal crater
hmm, no problems here. what filter are you hitting
rich widget
eternal crater
did you put "widget documentation" in the edit summary?
rich widget
Yes
eternal crater
well, dont
rich widget
Is that the secret phrase that triggers the spam filter?
eternal crater
it's "get document" which that obviously includes
rich widget
Ah.
eternal crater
the filter should be fixed so you can make the category page now
rich widget
Much appreciated!
supple ginkgo
Hello. About the page listing more mods, splitting arrow and unique jewel Volley Fire should be removed. About the page of the Scion, it seems the dialog after killing Malachai is missing, Poor Malachai. You spent three centuries fighting Death, and in all that time, not once did you take the time to live. is missing, like after killing Shavronne, The world doesn't want your kind of 'beauty', Shavronne. also: I'm sorry Maligaro, but I can be quite critical when it comes to Art. This was the only way to satisfy your appetite, Doedre. And when she enters the Harvest, This twisting of flesh and life... both brilliant and insane.
gusty hedge
Is there another place on the wiki to see the int helmet veiled modifiers (for devouring diadem)? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_int_helmet_modifiers
analog abyss
you can write you own query. Or there is a lump sum list in https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_veiled_modifiers
analog abyss
Hello. About the page listing more mods, splitting arrow and unique jewel Volley...
can you paste the url of the page that have Volley Fire and you want to edit?
supple ginkgo
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_more_mods I didn't verify everything but since some 'less' mods have been removed over time some items listed there can be removed
mild meteor
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bleed#Duration
Separate applications of bleed do not stack cumulatively (unless Crimson Dance is allocated, then it stacks up to 8 times). Each bleed effect remains present on the target until it runs its course, but only the one with the highest damage per second will cause damage at any given moment.[5] For example, assume an enemy is inflicted with bleed for 100 damage per second, then after 2 seconds it is inflicted with bleed for 50 damage per second. The outcome will be 500 damage over 5 seconds followed by 100 damage over 2 seconds.
Isn't something wrong with the numbers here ? Shouldn't it be "The outcome will be 100 damage over 5 seconds followed by 50 damage over 2 seconds." instead ?
rich widget
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Bleed#Duration
> Separate applications of ble...
It looks correct to me. A 100 dps bleed deals 500 damage over 5 seconds.
mild meteor
It looks correct to me. A 100 dps bleed deals 500 damage over 5 seconds.
Oh ok I see how it's phrased now, my bad.
I just didn't understood this sentence correctly. I thought it meant 500 DPS bleed for 5 seconds then 100 DPS bleed for 2 seconds.
wooden mural
Unbreathing Queen 1 procs in Grave Trough
flat eagle
any info about blood vendor so yet?
fluid cloud
The Bear Woman dropped in T3 Basilica map with Maven on it.
dreamy cedar
Anyone know whats up with this page? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chain
lua errors all over the place
rich widget
Anyone know whats up with this page? https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chain
Looks fine to me...
dreamy cedar
rich widget
No idea. It looks completely normal on my end, even after purging the page cache.
sour heron
Why are there no voice lines on the wiki? for shaper or sirus maybe
sour berry
sour heron
oh thanks 😄
rich widget
Why are there no voice lines on the wiki? for shaper or sirus maybe
No one has put them up.
raven bluff
and if someone is considering adding more voice lines to the wiki: please focus on describing what triggers them, not just copying over the lines themselves
a lot of NPC audio that's triggered by abilities (like Sirus' "Everlasting fire!") has text audio IDs that hint at what triggers it, but documenting that all explicitly and mapping from internal names like "SirusFusionNukeBeam" to descriptions players will recognize like "that rotating laser thing" would be hugely valuable
polar creek
The owner of the DPS calc document wants to port it to the wiki, what would they need to do to get started as far as data, calcs etc. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xk_dREw6GC4TN1JRCTVzENWlJIxCx8HtqRbANV2Fgxc/edit?usp=drivesdk
rich widget
The owner of the DPS calc document wants to port it to the wiki, what would they...
Not sure whether it makes sense to include a monstrous spreadsheet like this on the wiki. I'm interested to know what others think, but I think it is better left as an external resource.
raven bluff
I'd agree with keeping that external. There's enough analysis and opinion involved that it gets weird treating it as definitive information
rich widget
Exactly. As I'm looking through it, I'm realizing that there's really not an apples-to-apples comparison going on here. It's hard to draw definitive conclusions about what this means.
However, if this is useful to people, there's no reason we can't link to it from somewhere on the wiki.
rich widget
Aren't we getting a little carried away here? This is ridiculous.
Also, Ritual league and the Maven stuff are two completely disparate game systems. It doesn't make much sense to combine them into a single navbox.
raven bluff
nor am I sure why harvest stuff is in the echoes box
bleak comet
It's related to the expansions and the Harvest stuff is content from the Echoes of Atlas expansion. So we will have to add another one of these navboxes each time a mechanic is dramatically changed/reintroduced in later expansions.
raven bluff
"Have to" is a strong word
bleak comet
Sure, but from what I've noticed editors usually just adds content and rarely cleans up unless it's blatantly wrong. But since these meticulous navboxes are based on expansions they will never become outdated or wrong, because that's just what was included in that expansion. And so the historical content bloat begins in my pessimistic future.
raven bluff
I don't see how that follows. Listing articles in a navbox doesn't make them any more accurate or up to date
honest topaz
Aren't we getting a little carried away here? This is ridiculous.
A long time ago, I once suggested adding the ability to collapse Navboxes, but there was no response. Why not implement it?
rich widget
Because I don't really see the point of collapsing them. Having them take up some space at the bottom of the page isn't an issue. The problem here is that these navboxes are just a diarrhea dump of links. We don't need to link to every single watchstone in the navbox, for example.
raven bluff
I'm not convinced every non-unique watchstone needs its own article, either. Would make more sense to me to have a single article that says "there's three qualities of these for each region"
Easier to write and maintain one page about what they have in common, than 24 articles that all say the same things
polar vapor
hello. :)
all of the maps on the wiki are being changed... how do i know which divination cards they drop now?
rich widget
all of the maps on the wiki are being changed... how do i know which divination ...
I think divination card drops are generally unchanged.
polar vapor
yes but i don't see what specific cards they drop anymore. is it because they changed the map pictures?
all i see are monochrome, her mask, no traces and arrogance of the vaal. nothing else.
strange...
i don't see a fifth card on any of the maps right now...
rich widget
Hmm. Not sure. I don't have time to look into it right now though.
bleak comet
I think it should work now. We haven't added the new maps yet so can't change the name of the current map version then.
gentle sand
I don't understand the brutal restraint jewel. How do i know the notable before i buy it ?
sour oar
you8 dont :)
gentle sand
So stupid
pure cipher
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Timeless_Jewel#Mechanics outlines how they work mechanically and how the seed is opaque, someone could arguably add a text on how trading may be performed but that would require knowing how people actually trade them.
Trading last I heard about it relies on trusting the seller or a trusted intermediary party like a streamer that can demonstrate what it does to nodes in a particular part of the tree, typically with a jewel-tester character that has all jewel slots unlocked.
It's all social trading outside of the trading site, apart from making 0.5p statements in the price listing that no-one can verify.
I do not believe anyone has mapped out the possibilities yet in public, nor has the function from seed to passives been figured out as it's all supposedly server-side.
They're not bad game design per se either, there's still some amount of planning in knowing what kind of jewel to acquire to get particular keystones and a chance at notables and passives; there is agency in social trading, divining and just farming and trying them out.
(feel free to steal this rant and massage it into the wiki page 😉 )
torpid quartz
https://gyazo.com/5340fa251a3e5a2ef2ca85c8bf13965e
Soul of lunaris has the wrong boss in the wiki
Cier is in foundry t15
https://gyazo.com/960c124d000606263f5426e2d4f8fc87
short turret
forest bane
Is there a way to download the item table?
I.e. the table that contains the items queried in most List_of_X articles
rich widget
The API sandbox just allows you to do test queries. In order to download the entire table, you'll need to write a program that utilizes the actual mediawiki API to get the entire table and places it into a format that can be downloaded.
You'll need to use the "cargoquery" action.
forest bane
@rich widget Thank you! Can you help me constructing a minimal query?
ie. get all claw bases
forest bane
I confused ie and eg. again...
rich widget
I completely forgot we had a guide for that.
tiny merlin
the plaguemaw 1 i cleared the vaal ruins 4 times already still no help
the golem doesn't spawn
raven bluff
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Plaguemaw_I clearly says "Vaal side area", not "Vaal Ruins", with a link to what that means
raven bluff
uh hmm, why is "The Temple of Atzoatl" listed ten times for area restrictions on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Apep's_Slumber
bleak comet
Because there are like 10 variants of the area, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area:Incursion~Temple1, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Area:Incursion~Temple2 etc It does get messy when the area id is not shown.
rich widget
Perhaps the list can be filtered on |main_page= to remove duplicates.
bleak comet
It's not duplicates really, they just have the same main page. The area variants have different area levels so there might be different item drops. I don't remember if there were any practical difference between the variants, so I'm more inclined to just remove drop_areas in the item template besides Incursion_Temple1.
rich widget
I know they're not technically duplicates, but they are listed in the item acquisition section as if they are. They are duplicates in terms of |main_page=. Regardless of what solution we arrive at, I think we can agree that it's not necessary to repeat The Temple of Atzoatl ten times.
forest bane
still trying to recreationally understand how to cargo querry. I can't seem to get wepons. attributes aswell as name. this does not work: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/api.php?action=cargoquery&tables=items&fields=name,weapons.attack_speed&where=rarity!="Unique" AND class="Daggers"&limit=50
Doing the same w/o attack speed works, or w/o names on weapons.
bleak comet
It's based on MySQL if that helps.
Look like you haven't joined the tables.
There's an example how to join different tables on the data query page.
forest bane
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Item#Weapons appears to have a couple of mistakes: ellegible item classes out of date, typos: weapons.attack_speeed -> weapons.attack_speed, weapons.range -> weapons.weapon_range
formal onyx
Neither the wiki nor Path of Building has the updated Elementalist on it. I have to go on the Path of Exile website's passive skill tree to check what the abilities are.
pure cipher
@formal onyx the community PoB should have everything, as does PoEDB. The wiki has a big banner up top about a lot of things being 3.12 still.
surreal magnet
I added the orb tags to the gems, I also wanted to make the hydrosphere enchantments, but I don't know where to find the needed information(id, name, stuff like that), so if anybody more experienced could do do that, it would be super cool and shocking. Just like the skill. ;)
royal oracle
A little lost in the sauce 
Was trying to add a page for occupying force but I'm guessing I need to use the PyPoE to add the actual passive skill in the same format as the other passive skills. Is there danger to add the page "Occupying Force" like this before the actual passive skill has been added to the list of passive skills?
rich widget
A little lost in the sauce <:vanity:582390594333179919> Was trying to add a page...
There's no danger. It might show an error though.
royal oracle
@rich widget it did ^^ Guess it will be fixed, if I did not do any typos, when the passive skill is added later
grave pebble
Guys I have a question : can influence items drop once the redeemer or w/e they are called now, occupies the region?
rich widget
Guys I have a question : can influence items drop once the redeemer or w/e they ...
I think so, but please note that this is not the questions channel.
hardy path
I just tested the interaction between Olesya's Delight and Inner Conviction. Inner Conviction takes precedence over Olesya's Delight and you only gain power charges when you would gain a frenzy charge. Makes sense, no double dipping and all that
Any way I can add that to the wiki page of olesya's?
or someone else can?
surreal magnet
I found The Astromancer card, was dropped by a monster in Laboratory contract, not sure how to update the wiki in this case
pure cipher
@fierce badge Sorry, you blew your only chance by posting in an unrelated channel. Better luck next game.
fierce badge
rich widget
The page doesn't even want to load for me...
bleak comet
Seems joining tables like that is not a good idea anymore. Is it just that there's more data now or has something else changed in the cargo code I wonder.
rich widget
What the heck are we supposed to do if we can't join tables?
bleak comet
join = items._pageID=item_mods._pageID, item_mods.id=mods.id, mods.granted_skill=skill.skill_id
It is quite a few tables joined there. A bit more than our usual queries. Would this have been a problem with a normal SQL-table?
rich widget
~~Is the join parameter supposed to contain a comma-separated list of WHERE conditions? It doesn't specify here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Template:Query_unique_items~~
Never mind. I'm dumb.
Also, I'm experiencing deja vu at the moment. Didn't we discuss issues with this query before?
bleak comet
I don't follow? Joining tables together allows searching fields in other tables.
Maybe....
I suppose the number of joins can be reduced if the granted skill id was available directly from the item/item_mods table as well. But that's not the case at the moment.
rich widget
"Error: 2006 MySQL server has gone away" typically means the request is taking too long, right?
raven bluff
"Error: 2006 MySQL server has gone away" typically means the request is taking t...
Yeah. What it literally means is that the connection to the server got closed in the middle of a query. What this tends to mean in a practical sense is that something killed the query for taking too long
sour berry
too much outer joins
raven bluff
oh yeah this did come up before and I had a theory #wiki message
bleak comet
Is 4 table joins unrealistic though? Would it have timed out in a pure SQL or MySQL environment?
sour berry
should run a couple explains to see what index it's joining with if any
bleak comet
items._pageID=item_mods._pageID One-to-Many
item_mods.id=mods.id One-to-One
mods.granted_skill=skill.skill_id One-to-One
I don't think this should scale insanely. Joining tables should be a pretty fast one time thing right?
pulsar forum
hey guys, there is an error in the wiki
rich widget
items._pageID=item_mods._pageID One-to-Many
item_mods.id=mods.id One-to-O...
Considering we're joining by columns that can be indexed, I don't see why this query would be unrealistic. However, I'm not sure whether they are actually indexed in the database schema, since cargo seems to black box that part of it.
spice summit
All of the like comparators can take a while depending on how the columns in question are indexed. Further normalization could help but isn’t necessary.
Tbh it’s a bit weird to pull 5k results at a time. Some form of pagination (whether auto-scroll or standard) would definitely help with these issues.
It’s not an issue of joins. Those join predicates are on columns that are definitely indexed
bleak comet
I think that if LIKE was this slow normally we would have noticed it on queries with simpler joins, LIKE is used everywhere on the wiki.
This table doesn't display 5k unique items, it probably only displayed like 15 uniques when it worked, that limit is just the default value we use.
eternal crater
There has been a bit of a re-organization and I will no longer be your Wiki Manager. That will likely be Surafbrov. He will hopefully be joining the discord eventually.
I'll be leaving this server directly, but if you need anything from me you can still reach out to me on the F/G discord or on my talk page.
rich widget
I've been fiddling around with queries to see what will work (returns results before query timeout).
The following queries work just fine:
|tables = versions, items, item_mods, mods
|fields = items.name, versions._pageID = versions._pageID, versions._pageName = versions._pageName, items._pageID = items._pageID, items._pageName = items._pageName, item_mods._pageID = item_mods._pageID, item_mods._pageName = item_mods._pageName, mods._pageID = mods._pageID, mods._pageName = mods._pageName
|join on = items.release_version=versions.version, items._pageID=item_mods._pageID, item_mods.id=mods.id
|where = items.rarity_id = "unique" AND items.drop_enabled = true AND (items.release_version IS NULL OR items.release_version IS NOT NULL AND versions.release_date < NOW()) AND (items.stat_text LIKE "%action speed%")
|order by = items.required_level_range_maximum,items.name
|group by = items._pageID
|limit = 200
|format = table
}}```|tables = versions, items, item_mods, mods
|fields = items.name, versions._pageID = versions._pageID, versions._pageName = versions._pageName, items._pageID = items._pageID, items._pageName = items._pageName, item_mods._pageID = item_mods._pageID, item_mods._pageName = item_mods._pageName, mods._pageID = mods._pageID, mods._pageName = mods._pageName
|join on = items.release_version=versions.version, items._pageID=item_mods._pageID, item_mods.id=mods.id
|where = items.rarity_id = "unique" AND items.drop_enabled = true AND (items.release_version IS NULL OR items.release_version IS NOT NULL AND versions.release_date < NOW()) AND (items.stat_text LIKE "%action speed%" OR versions.version = "3.0.0")
|order by = items.required_level_range_maximum,items.name
|group by = items._pageID
|limit = 200
|format = table
}}```|tables = versions, items, item_mods, mods
|fields = items.name, versions._pageID = versions._pageID, versions._pageName = versions._pageName, items._pageID = items._pageID, items._pageName = items._pageName, item_mods._pageID = item_mods._pageID, item_mods._pageName = item_mods._pageName, mods._pageID = mods._pageID, mods._pageName = mods._pageName
|join on = items.release_version=versions.version, items._pageID=item_mods._pageID, item_mods.id=mods.id
|where = items.rarity_id = "unique" AND items.drop_enabled = true AND (items.release_version IS NULL OR items.release_version IS NOT NULL AND versions.release_date < NOW()) AND (mods.stat_text LIKE "%action speed%")
|order by = items.required_level_range_maximum,items.name
|group by = items._pageID
|limit = 200
|format = table
}}```However, this one does not:
|tables = versions, items, item_mods, mods
|fields = items.name, versions._pageID = versions._pageID, versions._pageName = versions._pageName, items._pageID = items._pageID, items._pageName = items._pageName, item_mods._pageID = item_mods._pageID, item_mods._pageName = item_mods._pageName, mods._pageID = mods._pageID, mods._pageName = mods._pageName
|join on = items.release_version=versions.version, items._pageID=item_mods._pageID, item_mods.id=mods.id
|where = items.rarity_id = "unique" AND items.drop_enabled = true AND (items.release_version IS NULL OR items.release_version IS NOT NULL AND versions.release_date < NOW()) AND (mods.stat_text LIKE "%action speed%" OR versions.version = "3.0.0")
|order by = items.required_level_range_maximum,items.name
|group by = items._pageID
|limit = 200
|format = table
}}```
I have no idea why.
crimson sundial
hello there. is it possible that this table shows old numbers?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/File:Evasion-percent.png
Or the example here has an old formula?
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Evasion
For example 5000 Evastion and 200 Accuracy is almost 40% via formula (in the example) but shown different in the table:
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y+%2F+(+y%2B+(x%2F4)^0.8+)%3B+x%3D5000%3B+y%3D200
bleak comet
It is correct besides the 95% limit. Recheck your equation.
gray stratus
why to convert this to this :
this wiki need 2 template and 1 module...
each time i want to work on something, the thing is overcomplicate.
An other things that i wanted : where the #cargo_query take the data ?
bleak comet
Surely the status ailment template is easy to understand and work with? We want a nice looking infobox to store and display information.
It's passive skills, skills, areas and monster data that's not as straightforward because when your automagically retrieving the data from the game files you'll get many results with the same name. There needs to be a human filter for them, before we show them to everyone on the main page. It's at this point a seemingly 1 template job grows to a large module with a template that stores data and one template that queries and displays the data in a somewhat readable form to us humans.
The data is stored in cargo tables, https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Special:CargoTables. It's stored using various templates that you can see if you dig around on that page. Usually you can get the information where and how it's stored by reading the documentation for the query templates we use.
gray stratus
"We want a nice looking infobox to store and display information. " they are fine, the problem is what is between the 2.
the same things could be done with 1 template 0 module, and be mush easier to modifie.
(it is a problem for less than 0.01% of the people, that sometime want to work on the template)
bleak comet
Is this about Module:Infocard? I think you would just duplicate code if you were to redo that part, increasing the maintenance burden and risk of new bugs significantly.
The 0.01% of the editors needs to also think about code duplication, CSS styling, transclusion size limits, template and module performance, cargo bugs and workarounds.
gray stratus
it is normal to have some template that are similar.
and if it was simpler, their would not be any problem of "transclusion size limits, template and module performance, cargo bugs and workarounds". the simpler it is, the fewer the bugs are.
for "CSS styling" i am near certain that it is possible to make exactly the same template in 10 line with some <div> and <span>.
formal onyx
Divergent Precision didn't get updated, with its new alternative quality effects, but does mention the change in the Version History at the bottom https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Precision
brave parcel
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Raider
Info listed for all of the raider notables does not match what is currently in game
formal moth
Just a suggestion, but I feel like this comment by Mark_GGG about herald of ice and crit chance would make a nice addition to the respective wiki page: https://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/lhyl97/questions_thread_february_12_2021/gn0aq1s/
uneven kindle
In case https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lex_Proxima#Maps_located_within_this_region itsnt updated
trail veldt
Hi!
Could anyone tell me how to edit metadata on gamepedia?
I originally just wanted to add doppelganger's guide in the maven loot table, but I can't find any info online on what even is a meta page, yet even how to edit one.
trail veldt
Welp, fuck this. I have now spent 2 hours trying to make a minimal edit, and I can't figure it out. There's is so many templates, modules, metadatas that I am completely lost. have not found a doc page anywhere (including outside the wiki) explaining to me what metadatas are, where they are and how I can edit them. I only know that there is somewhere a list of item drops for each monster, that's it.
The wiki is currently starting to get very out of date, and as a newcomer I am completely unable to edit it, it would literally take days to learn how to do this stuff.
bleak comet
You acquire the item from something. So you should look at the item template.
On https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Maven, you see some items drop from that monster
Now we click on https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Legacy_of_Fury, and check why it shows up there.
Turns out it has |drop_monsters = Metadata/Monsters/MavenBoss/TheMaven defined.
Copy the monsters metadata and add that to the item you want.
trail veldt
Well, I tried this, and in the preview, it was still showing card acquisitions from div cards such as jack in the box, which is wrong.
I copied everything I could from the eternity shroud page, as it is a boss drop with complete information (and also grants a skill).
I'm not exactly sure where I need to add the fast dopelganger's drops from maven, as the helmet doesn't show maven anywhere on its page, but the maven page does list the helm as a possible drop (but not the chestplate)
bleak comet
Save your edit. The table that your're looking at queries current data. Since you have not saved and stored the data to the database yet it simply wont show up.
tropic crow
Hi, I have a problem editing the page https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Action_speed . Looks like there is some error in the Unique Items table.
I asked at Fandom discord at first and got an answer:
AttemptToCallNilToday at 5:49 PM
looks like whatever this module is doing with Cargo https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Module:Item_table is prohibitively expensive, removing just the unique items template makes the page more or less acceptably performant-- Todo list
-- * Handle table columns that can have multiple cargo rows, preferably
-- in one or two queries. Not per column AND row.I really don't like the looks of this 👀
but I don't know specifics of Cargo and I don't know how can I correct it
I may just revert that section to last working version - https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Action_speed?oldid=592896
bleak comet
It's not the template. It's the query. You can do the same cargo_query and it will crash as well. The old version didn't find all relevant uniques unfortunately.
wooden mural
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_divination_cards How can I add drop location for a card in here?
warm solstice
I want to help update the wiki there's lots of stuff that's just outta date
ancient summit
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Genius
Hi, I was looking up Genius for cluster jewels and the page shows this, is this an error?
rich widget
<https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Genius>
Hi, I was looking up Genius for clus...
It's not an error. It's telling you that the page doesn't exist. Go ahead and create it if you want to.
grand magnet
It's not the template. It's the query. You can do the same cargo_query and it wi...
the problem is joining granted_skill (which can be null) coupled with all the other stuff. Better to do 2 queries and pass the relevant items along, look at how much faster
|tables=items, item_mods, mods, skill
|join on= items._pageID=item_mods._pageID, item_mods.id=mods.id, mods.granted_skill=skill.skill_id
|where =
mods.granted_skill IS NOT NULL
AND skill.stat_text LIKE "%action%speed%"
|fields=items._pageID
}}
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