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worthy cape
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PyPoE can interpret them according to its schema into JSON or programmatically, while RePoE cooks them more into JSON file with more resolved information.

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Awakened PoE Trade has a TS library for accessing DAT files, and most people have their own implementation of data access given a schema.

uneven venture
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Well, I just need something very specific from there, so I'll figure out where it is and write something quick and dirty to extract it.

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Great, lots of info to look into and lots of work to be done yet. But at least I have something I can work with and continue with my project.

worthy cape
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What kind of thing are you working on, if you're willing to pop that bubble? 🙂

uneven venture
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A bit ambitious but doable.

worthy cape
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As a fellow CF enthusiast, I know your pain.

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"where's my CF and Adrenaline at!?"

uneven venture
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LOL. Exactly

worthy cape
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It's the red icon <_<

uneven venture
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But this should solve it

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Then I will have an external window with configurable alerts, notifications, etc

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Or an overlay, we'll see

worthy cape
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I'm a fan of external windows as overlays inevitably tank framerate stability.

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At least on Windows, but I reckon it's probably not that much better elsewhere either.

uneven venture
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First, need to see if I can have a good enough model to recognize the buffs and if detection can be reasonably done in real time, like 2-5 times per second.

worthy cape
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Model says: "it's lupus"

uneven venture
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But hey, if Tesla can do it to drive a car, I probably can recognize Corrupted Fever 🙂

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Will need to re-learn C#/.net, but that's ok.

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And hopefully it will be finished before POE2, or it never will...

frank drift
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I'm assuming Corrupted Fever has a fixed duration after you press the key? why not a timer on keypress?

uneven venture
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Why not? It's an overlay, it doesn't read any memory and it doesn't automate anything.

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It's not different than any other overlay.

frank drift
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any kind of non-user-initiated non-one-time screen scraping is suspect

uneven venture
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And a button recognize won't work since it doesn't refresh.

frank drift
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current overlays as far as I'm aware limit themselves to relocating icons at most, no interpretation

worthy cape
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And yeah, there are ToS concerns about automated scraping.

uneven venture
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And if I do it in Apple Vision app? 🤪

frank drift
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trying to split hairs with TOS is never going to get you anywhere

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it's a spirit of the rules kind of thing

uneven venture
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I was kidding.

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I'm not going to spend $4000 on Apple Vision just to detect CF expiration...

frank drift
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some people would

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people run 3-4 PCs to (TOS compliant) play 6 accounts on PoE

daring moss
pallid wraith
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Probably so they don't have to check 10 parts of the screen for it, which honestly still sounds easier

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Or rather, they'll have to do that anyways, but so they don't need 10 checks per debuff

zenith zodiac
zenith zodiac
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idk if GGG do feature requests, but probably the simplest solution would be if the game client coukd write buff events to a log file.

frank drift
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not happening, for a number of reasons

pallid wraith
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They are very against third party tools that help the player in combat

worthy cape
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There's a quite important underlying reason that it should be possible to play the game out of the box and get the same experience that you see other people have in videos and streams, that the game is always recognizable across players and that everyone plays on a fair level.
"Mandatory" third party tools that interact continuously with the client are discouraged, we don't want to end up with something like WoW's mod hell where the game both plays itself and where client or game updates break people's UIs.

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The existing experience may be a bit rigid, old, inaccessible and even arguably harmful - but it's the same for everyone.

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Auto-crafters, programmable spinners, graphics Smoothers, flask/buff/skill parsers, all those and more are actively considered bad.

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While it's laudable that people see problems and want to solve them, we all have to work within the collective spirit of the game and work to keep it and our relationship good for the future.

uneven venture
formal kraken
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AI = Good, D4 = Bad

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or something

daring moss
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That was unexpected

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I tip my hat to you, fine sir

zenith zodiac
frank drift
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?

glass stone
frank drift
glass stone
bright ridge
compact isle
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should be fixed now - likely you were visiting the page directly?

bright ridge
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Hmm visiting the page directly not quite sure how you mean, but here's how our app opens the page (WPF .NET Desktop app):

      var url =
          "https://www.pathofexile.com/oauth/authorize?" +
          "client_id=chaosrecipeenhancer" +
          "&response_type=code" +
          "&scope=" + encodedScopes +
          $"&state=${state}" +
          "&redirect_uri=https://chaos-recipe.com/auth/success" +
          $"&code_challenge=${codeChallenge}" +
          "&code_challenge_method=S256";

        // Open the URL in the default browser
        OpenUrl(url);

    private static void OpenUrl(string url)
    {
        try
        {
            Process.Start(new ProcessStartInfo
            {
                FileName = url,
                UseShellExecute = true
            });
        }
        catch (Exception ex)
        {
            Trace.WriteLine("An error occurred while trying to open the URL: " + ex.Message);
        }
    }

Haven't changed anything since last league. If there's a better way to access the page I'm happy to change it!

compact isle
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I'm just saying that's the difference between your implementation and, say, poestack 😄

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but it was an issue on our end

bright ridge
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Ahh understood - np and thanks a ton for the swift resolution! Y'all are awesome

uneven venture
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So I managed to extract the images of all buffs (and their variations) from the bundles and match (most of) them with entries in BuffDefinions/BuffVisualls tables, so I have their names (although there are some wierd stuff with missing and duplicate names). Also found what I believe to be the current textures for buff frames, and the frames for charges/timers.

What I still can't figure out is how to identify the type of buff (buff/debuff/aura/flask/etc), I need this to match the images with the correct frames. It doesn't seem to be in BuffDefinitions table, any ideas?

zenith zodiac
uneven venture
velvet fog
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After the Taiwan agent moved Hotcool, there were some problems that didn't exist before. Including traditional Chinese font replaced by Microsoft Yahei font of Simplified Chinese, the display is very uncomfortable. Certain telecoms will be directed to Japanese gateways causing unstable delays. I wrote to customer service but they said they would not handle non-account issues. There is no technical support available on the official forum.

frank drift
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oof

zenith zodiac
uneven venture
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Ok, a step back. I need to generate an annotated list of all possible "buff" images that can appear in the buff bar UI. This will include its "type" (buff/debuff/flask/minion), it's proper name and the actual image file that gets rendered. I have a list of "buffs" from BuffDefinitions and image files from cross referencing it with BuffVisuals. But I can't find the types.

daring moss
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flask buffs you can identify by them being mentioned in that table IV_IS shared

uneven venture
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I don't need to identify the flask buff types

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I need to identify whats the type of the buff entry in BuffDefinitions, which can be, if I understand correctly, buff/debuff/flaks/minion/etc

worthy cape
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I think you're talking past each other here. You should be able to use the existence of a buff definition key in the flask table to indicate that it should have a flask border.

uneven venture
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Oh!

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what about the other types?

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It can be buff, debuf, minion - anything else?

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I was analyzing the BuffDefinitions tables from all angles, I was sure the info must be there.

worthy cape
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No idea, but the border art is sprites in UIImages1.txt, keyed by paths like these:

Art/2DArt/UIImages/InGame/Buff
Art/2DArt/UIImages/InGame/Debuff
Art/2DArt/UIImages/InGame/Flask
Art/2DArt/UIImages/InGame/Charges
Art/2DArt/UIImages/InGame/BuffTimer
Art/2DArt/UIImages/InGame/BuffLargeNumber
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(and possibly more)

uneven venture
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Yeah, I got those and extracted them from the sprite .dds files. Just missing the part of associating the buff icons with the current frames

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And figuring out why some frames have both standard and 4K res and some don't

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@sinful jetty Is it possible some of this info is in the "Unknown#" boolean fields just nobody bothered to figure it out yet?

worthy cape
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Could be in code, could be in tables, haven't looked.

uneven venture
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Hmm... there are 23 "Unknown" fields in BuffDefinitions with boolean values, most of them have true/false distribution.

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Will try to do some data analysis to see if there are any recognizable patterns in those fields.

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I mean, maybe some of them mean "IsFlask", "IsCharge" etc ?

worthy cape
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The integer at 0x103 doesn't look too bad otherwise.

narrow vortex
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Was there ever any luck with this? If not it's totally okay, but figured I'd ask. 🙂

zenith zodiac
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Does Onslaught have the same border when provided by a silver flask as it does when you get it from a skill, passive or mod?

worthy cape
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these:

image.png
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I don't think I have any other sources of onslaught that would intervene there.

zenith zodiac
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the same? lm not great with colours. ld assumed that frames depended on the source but if that's not the case then l guess looking for a column in the buffs table makes sense

worthy cape
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Yes, they look identical.

grave wren
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Was there ever any luck with this? If

faint remnant
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Anyone heard anything about accessing guild stash tabs since this message? #tooldev-general message
Trying to build a guild stash logger for out group self found league and currently it relies on manually pulling the csv file from the website and feeding that into an API

worthy cape
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Nope, I'm still running my audit logger which barely cuts it for my purposes.

hazy fiber
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the csv is such a pain to work with sometimes, better tooling would be nice, but its probs not worth the effort for them, accessing the guide stash tabs via ouath would be nice, even if for now it was locked to guild leader needing to do it like Novynn said

but then requiring the account requesting the details be the guild leader seemed too much
is better than no access

faint remnant
worthy cape
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Aye

faint remnant
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Isn't it verboten to use that endpoint?

worthy cape
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I see it kind of like character imports, a fairly narrow resource that when used for its intended purpose of auditing a guild is "fine" to use responsibly.
Different uses that put more load on it for different purposes may be more rude.

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In my case, enforcing the one-for-one same-tier map tab rule of map exchange for a guild of like 250 peeps.

faint remnant
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Hm. I guess if you haven't run into any issues with GGG over this a limited use is probably fine? I'm thinking an hourly fetch of the recent stash history

worthy cape
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I forget how often the other officer runs it but it catches up according to rate limit on each run, so only intermittent load.

distant trail
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the first couple times i tried to install it it kept throwing up an error regarding ffmpeg.dll

worthy cape
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Not sure what kind of thing led to the system being krangled like that.

distant trail
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hmm

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would removing the microsoft store "app" from my computer cause this kind of issue

worthy cape
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If you've messed with that, quite possibly.

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Probably doesn't hurt to look at the registry part of the article to see if yours lines up or not.

distant trail
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yeah the registry was fine

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ok, i restarted my pc and then installed it fresh again in my c drive this time and it seeeeeems to be okay?

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thanks for the help

uneven venture
# worthy cape The integer at 0x103 doesn't look too bad otherwise.

Think I figured out most of these. It's field "Unknown17" in BuffDefinitions, the values seems to be:

  1. Buff
  2. Debuff
  3. Charge
  4. Flask
  5. Curse
  6. Channelling
  7. Buff Shrine
  8. Flag
  9. Spell Shrine
  10. Team
  11. Labyrinth (?)
  12. Aspect
  13. Herald
  14. Mark
  15. Stolen mod (?)
  16. Link
  17. Not sure. Maybe don't exist in game.
random geyser
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Is there an item+affix JSON available somewhere I can dork around with? I want to work on a simple search tool without having to build that list myself.

hexed mesa
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depends what you wanna do, i think lvlvls repoe had a list of mods per base, but as always theres probably a problem with mods like delve, incursion etc which have 0 weight naturally

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if you wanna do something with trade website theres also a problem with translating in game mods to whatever trade website is doing

high heron
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Is it possible for multiple instances of PublicStashChange in a single public stash response to have the same id?

compact isle
swift beacon
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Is anyone here involved in poeurl.com? The site seems to be down.

shy marten
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Anyone here involved with Craft of Exile?
I'm trying to create deep links for the affix calculator for integration into https://github.com/flbraun/poe-palette. I already found out that the b and bi url params can be used to open the calculator with a base (e.g. Gloves (DEX)) and/or base item (e.g. Deerskin Gloves): https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=34&bi=7598
I wonder if these ids are some random internal id, or if they relate to something like game data or wiki identifiers.

Craft of Exile

Craft of Exile is a crafting simulator for Path of Exile designed to compute the probabilities of obtaining specific results through different methods.

worthy cape
golden knot
shy marten
swift beacon
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I've been bored lately, so I added an Easter egg to my application. Typing the Konami code now brings up the POE version of Space Invaders. And yes, there's a secret fishing level.

formal kraken
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that's cool!

spring compass
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I made this: https://ugimser.github.io/

You're the first to see this!

Any feedback is appreciated. I'm currently considering adding Gwen regex functionality, then css profiles. While live search integration would be ideal, unfortunately, GGG support told me no.

Should I continue development based on the current code, or rewrite it now?

civic crane
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continue, you don't have anything unique to show off right now

worthy cape
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Continue development on the things you're allowed to do, don't continue on things that you can't use or ship.

pseudo ocean
swift beacon
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I've been digging into older versions of the game for funsies, and found this image in 1.3.0b. I didn't mess with the image, this is exactly how it is in the GGPK.

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This was pre-Act 4 so no one would've ever seen it in the game, obviously.

frank drift
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Prohibited Library might get a kick out of that

rapid pagoda
swift beacon
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That's pretty funny.

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Speaking of older versions, does anyone have a pre-1.0 GGPK?

worthy cape
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I'd like to know why on earth there's a farramsnutsack.dds.

farramsnutsack.png
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One of the branches had one release visible disjoint from the normal branch, not sure how old that was.

worthy cape
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That one snuck out just as 1.0.0 launched.

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-rw-r--r-- 2 zao folk 4164735336 Jul 12  2021 Content-7374608244832901482.ggpk
-rw-r--r-- 2 zao folk 4378576358 Jul 11  2021 Content-8209108062808557867.ggpk
spring compass
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Is there a list with images of all uniq items? I need it for gwen regex.

swift beacon
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Thanks. The first one is indeed labelled 0.11.6.

swift beacon
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Well the model viewer still works all the way back to 0.11.6. I can't look up the proper names for the objects in the .dat files though, because I don't have a specification for each version.

image.png
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It's interesting to see there's Act 4 stuff all the way back in the alpha too.

worthy cape
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I went down a deep rabbit hole after the holidays to revise my TDT parser. Still haven't managed to get it to sync up the parse on most files.

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Somehow the file format for tile metadata in an ARPG with procedural level generation is highly complex.

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Material compiler is stuck a number of releases ago as well, it stopped working well after they introduced new block types in the FFX files.

swift beacon
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TDTs are one of the formats I haven't tackled yet. I can generate models for individual terrain tiles using TGTs and TGMs, but I don't really have a desire to try to string them together into an actual scene.

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At least not until the next time I'm really bored.

worthy cape
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The primary allure of TDT for me was the walkability and height fields; I finally got those figured out but am stuck on which parts of the file are optional or not these days given flag sets, particularly with virtual TDTs in the mix. v8+ changed a lot of things and they're up to v13 or something by now.

swift beacon
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Even in 0.11.6 some files only go down to version 3 or 4. Version 1 files must be from when the game looked like this:

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Though it makes sense that versions would change more rapidly earlier in development.

worthy cape
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Not too much new in the DAT files, assumedly just pack-related things.

strong knoll
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just wondering, but editing shaders is probably off limits? was thinking how neat it would be to change them like in minecraft lol

frank drift
strong knoll
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sadge, i cant think a case where it would give an advantage

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other than just painting hitboxes, but if I were disabled in some way, i'd like that option

worthy cape
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There's a long history of people altering the visuals and game files for gameplay advantage.
Extremely forbidden and the cause of at least one banwave.

oak estuary
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In addition, streamers adding shaders that turn every monster into a red hitbox makes the game look like crap to potential players (not to mention completely nullifying the work of the artists)

worthy cape
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There's a tradition of that the game should look identical as seen on streams and videos vs. what you yourself see. This from everything of visual effects to UI and interaction.

strong knoll
strong knoll
worthy cape
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Reduced clutter allows you to see dangerous ground effects, removed shadows and simplified lighting makes for better performance, minimap hacking for wildwood and zone cheese.
Lots of horrors.

oak estuary
worthy cape
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Ever seen professional Quake 1 players? quake_quad

strong knoll
worthy cape
strong knoll
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but hey, hear me out (devs:)! maybe follow like they did in minecraft, and only allow one of few settings, no free for all

worthy cape
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I like the attitude of keeping it consistent across players and deliver QoL centrally.
Way over having to manage a horde of broken UI mods on patch since WoW and other games.

exotic egret
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Playing cata beta right now I feel naked without my addons

worthy cape
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I've got reasonably fond memories of a screen full of bars and buttons healing in Lich King.

silent tree
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good times right

g5wi97kuy4w61.webp
oak estuary
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Just as the devs intended

frank drift
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I used to play a MMO that looked like that, then I logged in years later on my 4k monitor

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needless to say it was a wee bit less cluttered

frank drift
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so atlastree-export when witchHeist

worthy cape
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The league-specific nodes must be fun for peeps making planners.

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Yay for not having those in PoB 😄

compact isle
worthy cape
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Ah, that makes sense.

frank drift
oak estuary
frank drift
oak estuary
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Isn't an atlas tree link just as easy to share as a PoB link?

frank drift
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but then you have to have the atlas tree link inside your PoB in the notes or something

worthy cape
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I believe one of the reasons to not have it in PoB was that atlas trees generally aren't overly associated with builds.

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They don't interact with the build itself, and apart from selecting content that the build might farm well, are detached from how the build works.

frank drift
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that's the argument yeah, I just personally disagree

oak estuary
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Where do you stop? There might also be situations where you use different filters on different characters, or different live searches, etc. At the end of the day PoB has to focus on what it does best

compact isle
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atlas tree sign-off has been obtained

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oh and regular tree nice

compact isle
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okay those are up now, though for atlas consumers be aware that there is a separate branch for the necropolis-specific tree (I'm already regretting it and wish I just put the data.json alongside the regular one)

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as I type this out... I'm just going to do that

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okay necropolis-specific atlas tree is necropolis.json which also contains the new groups/nodes

oak estuary
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Is that supposed to still contain the Wildwood ascendancies?

compact isle
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yeah the aim was to leave them in for compatibility for now

waxen musk
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oh, i was wondering why im not getting any new stuff when i use data.json

velvet fog
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Allflame Ember is frameType 11

compact wigeon
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Is it intentional that the group IDs of atlas passives have almost all changed in 3.24, and differ between the necropolis and standard versions? Should I expect those to change every patch going forward?

I've now realized that some IDs changed in 3.22 > 3.23 too.

compact isle
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groups are completely ephemeral and change all the time yeah

compact wigeon
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Pain. Can't think of a better way to identify the groups that are Weird and manually fix them than by adding node IDs to group IDs. Most notably is that I want to consider The Light of Dawn and Baptised by Fire as part of the same group as the mastery icon they're adjacent to, and the abyss snake at the top as part of the same group as Reactive Swarm and the mastery icon. Otherwise my auto-allocation in path of pathing breaks

worthy cape
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Congrats on keeping the site alive for the patch note rush last night by the way, printed PDF copies of the patch notes in vain. SCcatCLAP

fervent idol
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Is there any publicly available code for poe twitch extension?
or a similar chrome extension would be fine.

Since twitch is no longer available to Korean users, I would like to use this feature for streaming platforms used by Koreans. ROGGERS

lusty musk
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@mortal bone would it be possible for you to add the new atlas tree to https://poeskilltree.com/ for easy comparison I would much appreciate it ❤️

mortal bone
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I really should have an automation pull these in

worthy cape
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Note that there's disjoint atlas trees for standard and league now.

mortal bone
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Yeah, I see

mortal bone
lusty musk
mortal bone
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Yeah, no problem. Necropolis might be a little scuffed as I didn't really test it out too much, but you can at least compare it to the standard atlas tree

lusty musk
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@mortal bone the only thing I see as problematic is that it marks nodes that moved a tiny bit as yellow

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like this one

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it would be helpful if there's a check that doesn't mark a node if it just got moved a tiny bit visually and all its neighbors are (in a graph sense) still the same

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but eh, if you can't be bothered I understand 😄

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just a minor thing

mortal bone
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Yeah, that is intentional

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If the node has moved more than a node away from itself it will show up as changed

mortal bone
lusty musk
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I didn't mean to imply that you didn't 😄

mortal bone
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Honestly, there should be configurations for what you want to see when you compare, but I just haven't had time

hazy fog
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ferretsalute based zao

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worthy cape
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Been praying all night that it doesn't break more than it already has 😄

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Already got an XKCD "workflow" one 🙂

oak estuary
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At least we have a week to fix it before league start 😅

frank drift
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PoB appeared half offscreen after the update but half is enough to get it back on screen, so no complaints

worthy cape
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Neat! The old geometry values are a bit of a mess, particularly as you don't have all the configurations that end users tend to accumulate over years.

worthy cape
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@velvet fog I assume you people with PoeCharm aren't affected by this SimpleGraphic upgrade?

velvet fog
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I played for more than half an hour without any problems.

worthy cape
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I did my best to not ship any changes in the interface for Lua consumers in this version, saving the mesh/transformed rendering and Unicode text for future revisions.

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(meshes being prepared 2D geometry that can be drawn by reference, transformed being 2x3 matrices for positioning/orienting/scaling art, and Unicode text doing input editing more in terms of glyphs or clusters than bytes)

meager bear
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Hello again everyone
I wonder if some PoB people can shed light on an issue
Basically, new Tornado has the same mod as Wild Strike (100% of Physical Damage Converted to Fire, Cold or Lightning Damage)
And for the Wild Strike PoB says that this mod is not a skill mod, so it is not preventing any other phys conversions (like new Unholy might or masteries 40%) to occur
Is this PoB bug or PoE inconsistency?

primal schooner
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who are the ppl that dev POB / how do you get in content with them?

frank drift
primal schooner
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i'd like to find out about getting / providing the code to add a feature

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i guess i can jsut go to the CF git

worthy cape
primal schooner
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lol yep thnx

carmine merlin
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@primal schooner send me a message

frozen wagon
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Hey, does anyone know if I can retrieve private league information/ladders from the POE API with a client_credentials grant? The docs only mention private leagues being available through an account: leagues scope.

daring moss
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Does anyone know if the search regex features have been properly documented anywhere? Does PoE use a generally available regex parsing/matching lib? Their own implementation of something regex-like?

compact isle
frozen wagon
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❤️ ty I was terrified I would have to implement PKCE on my server

frozen wagon
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@compact isle just tried with my expired private league from affliction and I am either calling it wrong (though I tried many variations) or it maybe doesn't work with expired leagues?

Name: Smol Bug Found (PL43484)

tried:

"https://api.pathofexile.com/league/Smol Bug Found"
"https://api.pathofexile.com/league/Smol Bug Found (PL43484)"
"https://api.pathofexile.com/league/Smol%20Bug%20Found%20(PL43484)"
"https://api.pathofexile.com/league/Smol%20Bug%20Found"
"https://api.pathofexile.com/league/PL43484"
worthy cape
frozen wagon
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ah I am an idiot, ofc I needed to html encode the brackets :), tyvm

spring compass
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I've added Gwennen Regex and Syndicate Spreadsheets. Could you take a look and provide feedback with a fresh perspective? I'm out of ideas for new panels; maybe 'Incursion' would be a good addition, but we can already add images to the text box. Should I add more content before showing it to regular users? https://ugimser.github.io/

frank drift
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you probably want to fix the UI

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it's not terrible usable as-is

spring compass
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Colors?

frank drift
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you've created basically a windowing system but it lacks the basic controls user would expect of a windowing system

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like being able to drag windows around, resize them, etc

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even the fact that they default to piling on top of each other is kind of poor UI

spring compass
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@frank drift drag move button

frank drift
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that's a really poor UI choice

spring compass
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resize

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Thank you, i didn't notice that people may not see it, will change move element to the position where it is in windows.

uneven venture
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Also, remove the "move" button and add a draggable header to the panel.

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Opened panels should have some sort of "cascade" and never open directly/exactly on top of each other

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Keep same look & feel for all buttons and ALIGN EVEYTHING

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Don't use "delete", it implies something gets actually deleted. Add a simple "X" which all users recognize.

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And whenever something is draggable, change the cursor to "move"

worthy cape
uneven venture
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This has probably been asked before but I'm curios, were there any discussions/attempts to port PoB to the web for better accessibility and UI/UX?

formal kraken
rapid pagoda
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pob.party was a thing for a while

uneven venture
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"done and not maintained" is not done 🙂

formal kraken
uneven venture
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I mean, real PoB with all functionality that runs in the browser

frank drift
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you'll find that's a lot more complicated than you think

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even something like pob.party was pretty limited in functionality

uneven venture
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I'm sure it's a big and challenging project but it's not the first

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Applications with more complicated UI and logic were done in the browser. I was just curious if it was attempted before.

golden bane
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It's not a question of "can you do it", it's a question of "can you do it under the given constraints" (expertise, time, money, community, value created)

frank drift
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porting code is especially difficult, it would be easier to write a new tool from scratch than to port PoB

uneven venture
oak estuary
uneven venture
golden bane
uneven venture
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The UI needs to be all brand new of course, but the logic is already figured out, why reinvent the wheel?

golden bane
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Honestly: try contributing to PoB first. You'd find out that UI and logic are not as separated as any of us would like

uneven venture
worthy cape
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The fundamental things you need is a working and performant LuaJIT compatible interpreter (or sufficient AoT compilation), implement enough of the Lua<->runtime interface for it to be able to interact with the outside world, accept how it's very frame-based and requires significant rejiggering to be eventful; and then be sad that the UI is extremely px-sized.

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The runtime bit is probably not too rough, the Lua side is kind of the roughest.

uneven venture
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I didn't mean that it should run the Lua code.

worthy cape
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Can't really substitute anything on that side, and you can't really wire it up well to run on a backend host either as it's very chatty.

uneven venture
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But port it

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Keep the logic

worthy cape
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That's an eternal effort, but you could definitely try.

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There's a lot of it, and it's very spaghetti.

uneven venture
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Yeah, that's what I thought. I just wondered if it was attempted.

worthy cape
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Too bad they removed alternate qualities - it'd be a nice Divergent Path of Building 😉

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Some stabs with various tech and platforms, none more than partial PoC as far as I know.

golden bane
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The only advice I can give here is: don't go for the big bang rewrite. It's tempting, progress is so fast at the beginning. The end, on the other hand... you're never going to see it. You need to port the logic gradually, if at all. Which means that you need to find a way to run the Lua code regardless

formal kraken
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I want some kind of cached effect system (is that what you call it?) for all pob calcs

worthy cape
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The most success we've had with alternate implementations in general is the Linux/macOS peeps with pobfrontend, the Chinese with PoeCharm, and the headless consumers like ninja and pobbin(?).

golden bane
uneven venture
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There is a Lua VM written in JS that runs in the browser.

formal kraken
worthy cape
oak estuary
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I think Vilsol's go-pob repo was pretty far along, actually. Just stalled out like these things do

worthy cape
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That's indeed one of the more persistent peeps.

oak estuary
golden bane
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Very cool that you're looking into this again! Do you have an example of some calculation that doesn't use the modb?

oak estuary
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There are quite a few stats intermingled that simply use a value from the output directly that was already calculated, so I'd have to merge ModDB and output to get a comprehensive view of which "cells" can be watched and updated

waxen musk
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where do these implicits come from? theres no such text in any of the statdescriptions files

While a Unique Enemy is in your Presence, +20% to Fire Damage over Time Multiplier

worthy cape
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They're composed in some fun way, aren't they?

waxen musk
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ah, fun PepeHands

worthy cape
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Kind of like a condition and effect; can't point you at how the wiki did them but someone else probably has the beans.

compact isle
waxen musk
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hmm so theyre not expressed by some combination of stat/values?

compact isle
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if the mod has a certain local stat then all other descriptions in that mod get the prefix text addedd

worthy cape
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Doesn't say anything about how the strings glue, of course.

waxen musk
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are there any more fun effects like these? D:

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mod-local stats really put a wrench in how im handling items 😄

worthy cape
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I can't recall anything else than eldritch implicits that are conditional like that.

rapid pagoda
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I wonder how much of a use case there'd be for a generic… let's call it an "effects engine"

zenith zodiac
rapid pagoda
velvet fog
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Item Filter Information page missing new gems

pseudo ocean
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They hidingthe wander gems 10 mintues before leaguestart so nobody knows it's OP kek

pallid wraith
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Wasn't necessary last league, I remember sneaking myself a frag kibo for 2c before everyone realised it was good

compact isle
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updated atlas passive trees to keep up to date with patch note updates

frank drift
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quite a task

bright ridge
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Does anyone have the ability to add me to a Private League so I can see how it will show up on my list of leagues for my app?

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I don't mind paying, but I unfortunately won't be joining lol. Just need to see what the API responses end up looking like.

neon plume
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I really wish I had the time to finish it

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but the monstrous amount of work to do it.... was monstrous

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I might ressurrect it for PoE 2

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I think I am roughly 20% done with the port, some major pain point hurdles I have managed to cross. It is built to be run as either a web-app, a desktop app or even as a CLI (eventually). Can in theory even just be run as a lib and baked into a Go app or whatever. On the web side it compiles to WASM that gets run in a WebWorker to reduce any kind of visual lag. Communicates over a custom bridge I wrote. Luckily some of that I could reuse for my timeless jewel calculator. But there is till a shit ton of stuff to do (and this is only what I've noted as TODO):

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neon plume
# formal kraken I want some kind of cached effect system (is that what you call it?) for all pob...

Actually, after I was done with my 1:1 rewrite, I wanted to basically refactor the entire codebase into a reactive one, as that would suit a workload such as PoB much more. Allow only changes to be processed and rest can be cached. Effectively something akin to RXJS or Svelte Stores. There are libs for this already in Go but they're all meh, so I would end up writing something custom again most likely. This would also allow us to split up the massive codebase into logical chunks, instead of the massive 5k line functions it has right now.

formal kraken
neon plume
frozen wagon
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Since your all PoB gods in this chat, does anyone have experience or know how pobbin/poe.ninja implemented the generation of PoB codes from POE API characters? I assume they're running PoB headlessly on a server somewhere?

frozen wagon
formal kraken
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I have too many ideas and not enough motivation/time 😦

frozen wagon
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How easy would it be to spin up PoB headlessly, beginning with precisely 0 knowledge of LUA/LuaJIT? Can it be easily dockerised or something?

worthy cape
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I think we have some stabs at a build test suite that evals a bunch of them and sees if they diverged since the golden sample.

neon plume
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I haven't dockerized it, but it shouldn't be too bad to do it

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you just have to make a custom lua script

frozen wagon
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@neon plume thank you, I'll give it a try

oak estuary
# frozen wagon How easy would it be to spin up PoB headlessly, beginning with precisely 0 knowl...

Non-docker action for general env setup: https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/blob/dev/.github/workflows/test.yml
Squint at this script that busted would run to generate builds: https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/blob/dev/spec/GenerateBuilds.lua

Effort to modernize our Docker image here: https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/pull/7162 (Current one works, but this one is just better, frankly)

frozen wagon
oak estuary
golden bane
# frozen wagon How easy would it be to spin up PoB headlessly, beginning with precisely 0 knowl...

Here's somethiong a bit different: a containerised PoB that you can instrument from Python instead of Lua (still have to execute Lua code though Python though):
https://gist.github.com/ppoelzl/b07dae6c4bc421c8325990e9d2644ab7
You need to map your cloned PoB repository root into /workdir on the container as a volume

Gist
Instrument headless Path of Building via Python

Instrument headless Path of Building via Python. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

neon plume
neon plume
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I hope you understand of course, that this means war

golden bane
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It has all the dependencies I need and I'm deeply invested in the SUSE ecosystem, both professionally and as a hobbyist

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Isn't even that big of a base image at less than 100 MiB

neon plume
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confused angry vilsol noises

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you're actually the first unironic opensuse user I've met

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I thought they all had gone extinct

golden bane
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Most of them are just active in other spaces (because they tend to be older)

worthy cape
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I tried SL once, accidentally blew away my Windows 120G SSD.

neon plume
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I even joined an opensuse telegram group once and all they talked about was arch lol

worthy cape
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Got a SLES15.4 builder container for EB; weirdge distro.

grave wren
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How'd you use the headless wrapper in your example, just call the methods on the lua object?

golden bane
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A lot of Linux users in my local user/interest groups daily drive opens use. Almost all of them are 50+ and freelancers, which I find noteworthy. I only found out after settling on opens use myself, and all of them also did independently a long time before we met

grave wren
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As a true casual I just used what was installed on my tuxedo laptop (kubuntu) 😉

golden bane
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openSUSE Tumbleweed is both rolling and stable, it's very nice.
"Wait, how can it be both? My Arch install breaks random stuff all the time!" openSUSE actually tests packages before updating them and automatically runs migration scripts on update if needed @neon plume 😉

neon plume
golden bane
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I've looked into nix, very elegant idea, but the biggest downside is 0 industry adoption. I like my enterprise Linux upstream 😄

uneven venture
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Who Linux freaks consider to be at the bottom of the food chain, Mac or Windows users?

neon plume
golden bane
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If you install openSUSE on btrfs as root filesystem, you get automatic snapshots you can roll back to before and after every system update. Seamless integration between bootloader, file system and package manager

uneven venture
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Heh

golden bane
neon plume
golden bane
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No, you just redeploy your Rancher Kubernetes cluster. Welcome to the cloud native future 😎

neon plume
golden bane
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That's cool

neon plume
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no but seriously I do, I run k8s at home pls send help

golden bane
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To send help, I'd have to set up a few increasingly abstract services beforehand. Sounds too complicated /s

compact wigeon
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🍿

neon plume
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and just to be safe and efficient you should create a custom operator, so handling future help queries all it takes is creating a CRD

grave wren
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When do we get to the XML so we can really do enterprise

golden bane
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I can draw you some UML diagrams of some service someone can probably implement some time

neon plume
neon plume
waxen musk
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a question to anyone that used the oauth api. do the endpoints provide CORS headers?

velvet fog
daring moss
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that headless wrapper wrapper looks interesting

worthy cape
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Nothing meaningful at all in 3.23.2c:

--- build-13797513.json 2024-03-21 20:29:03.764663689 +0100
+++ build-13838588.json 2024-03-26 22:21:03.815397654 +0100
@@ -1617,11 +1617,11 @@
       "var_offset": 4,
       "var_size": 8
     },
     "data/customleaguetemplate.dat64": {
       "fixed_size": 0,
-      "row_count": 108,
+      "row_count": 116,
       "row_width": 0,
       "var_offset": 4,
       "var_size": 8
     },
     "data/daemonspawningdata.dat64": {
formal kraken
worthy cape
#

Taking things out of context on the Internet? Unheard of! 😄

oak estuary
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Maybe they should drop some juicy data in one of these minor patches then 😉 hero of #tooldev-general

exotic egret
oak estuary
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Pics or it didn't happen

floral dawn
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😢

worthy cape
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Or maybe this is diversion to keep you all out of the cool new stuff in the rest of the patch.

exotic egret
worthy cape
exotic egret
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(That's a pic for you @oak estuary , even though it doesn't look like it)

oak estuary
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See GGG devs behind the veil! They're just like us!

exotic egret
rapid pagoda
compact isle
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if anyone is really into weighted sum searches on the trade site, there is now a new "v2" option which works slightly differently, but presumably the same for those complex omegasearches you all like to do. Please let me know if there are any oddities!

clever thistle
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more pseudo mods?

compact isle
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lol sort of is a make your own pseudo mod

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wish it was as performant 🙃

spring compass
compact isle
pallid doveBOT
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Please don't post discord invites

faint remnant
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I'm fiddling with a tool I started developing earlier this year and I'm using a items.json file to keep a list of all "known" items in the game. But I can't figure out where I got that file and thus get a fresh version once the server go back online tomorrow.

formal kraken
faint remnant
formal kraken
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ah, nice!

worthy cape
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torrent time

velvet fog
worthy cape
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I'll save my energy for tomorrow, I assume the custodians have been careful as usual.

worthy cape
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Done, 264214/888544 extracted, 624330 missed.

bright ridge
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making my league-ly appearance - oauth-enabled guild stash endpoints would be dope Prayge

hazy fiber
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^ second this, even if just for guild leader

spring compass
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I hope ggg won't be mad:

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faint remnant
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Thirding. Please gib gs history endpoint.

worthy cape
formal kraken
worthy cape
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A very slim subset of these are available in the torrent, but it's way too few to do anything interesting apart from seeing if schemas changed.

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No dat64 files removed since 3.23.last

civic crane
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i forgot, does river contain ssf stashes

grave wren
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There was a ssf unique leaderboard so I think so

velvet fog
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Unique leaderboard parse unique stash, not river

hexed mesa
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you can make ssf stash tabs public so they are almost definitely in the river

hexed mesa
hazy fog
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PauseChamp send chuan all your caffeine

worthy cape
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I'm gonna tax that feed.

hazy fog
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haha go for it

swift beacon
frank drift
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as it should

worthy cape
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pathofexile2n't

swift beacon
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I wonder if that will change after POE2 launch, or if it will still go down any time POE1 has an update.

hazy fog
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that would be .. awkward

worthy cape
hazy fog
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I cannot locate the list of haunted modifiers

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graves have this listed but there is no sheet of haunted modifiers and I clicked a random armor piece and there is no section for haunted modifiers

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@velvet fog still in process maybe?

hazy fiber
hazy fog
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was I blind monkaW

hazy fog
hazy fiber
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I meant in ggpk, probs not on poeDB yet

hazy fog
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ah

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then the answer is chuan isn't done yet 🙂

formal kraken
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Anyone got a tldr what changed in the SkillGems dat? @worthy cape 👀

worthy cape
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I'm at the folks, computationally limited. Haven't seen much chatter.

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Same width at least.

formal kraken
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Yeah that's the weird thing it fails parsing for me because of the width

worthy cape
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There we go, patch version field on poe-dat-viewer is 3.24.0.1 now.

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Had I been smort I'd type it in manually 😄

worthy cape
formal kraken
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yeah probably am more behind

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damn

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thanks! I'll go figure it out and you have your time off

normal parrot
formal kraken
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ah nice, color just moved from 195 to 83

worthy cape
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It's been 135 bytes since 3.23.0 at least, I can say.

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So possibly internal shuffle, I don't measure anything schema-wise.

formal kraken
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that's strange, I am pretty sure I ran that code for 3.23

swift beacon
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Oooh, there's a couple of juicy spoilers in the new dialogue.

hazy fog
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ok I have been shown the modifiers

swift beacon
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Some of the new witch lines look like they have multiple options for the same event. Maybe they'll be randomized? That would be fun.

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Possibly something they started working on for POE2.

fickle yew
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@compact isle No endAt set for Necropolis leagues? But delveEvent is true...

compact isle
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delveEvent just enables the delve ladders

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is having no endAt a problem for you?

fickle yew
compact isle
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there is category with current: true now

fickle yew
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active: true?

compact isle
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hm

fickle yew
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What active means in that one is not really well defined..

compact isle
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well that is wrong lol, it's supposed to be current

fickle yew
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Anyway the feedback I guess is that it is surprisingly hard to figure out whether something is a challenge league 🙂

compact isle
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it will be set if the league category matches the current active one for the patch (so 3.24.0+ will be Necropolis)

fickle yew
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Alright that makes sense.

compact isle
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a common feedback, but nothing really dictates that outside of convention and marketing 😅

fickle yew
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I can hardcode a check for Necropolis catagory id until you change active to current I guess 🙂

compact isle
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we could (and did at the start) run multiple challenge leagues at the same time

fickle yew
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I said "a challenge league". I'm fine with multiple...

compact isle
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non-event, non-standard category is probably your best bet there

fickle yew
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Alright. Up until this point endAt was a good indicator though.. But maybe Necropolis is the be all end all..

compact isle
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I mean previously testing endAt being null would just eliminate Standard which you can do via the category anyway

fickle yew
faint remnant
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When is trade usually updated? Bulk trade already has the new scarabs, regular trade doesn't

worthy cape
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Uniques and mods tend to be when people actually list some.

faint remnant
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Ah. Damn that throws a slight wrench in my plans. But I can just wait till tomorrow

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Figured scarabs and scuh would get immediately seeded

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And also old ones removed

worthy cape
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Not sure if the UI itself has some sort of caching going on.

hazy fog
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I do not beliee there is any seeding seeding would allow you to bruteforce guess unique names

rapid pagoda
hazy fog
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which word lists?

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I assume you're talking about ggpk but there's a difference between exposed to end users and being exposed to people with technical knowledge

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when searching for bob's mace an average user should never be typing bob and accidentally reveal the existence of bob's unannounced chancla

rapid pagoda
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yeah that's fair, when you said "bruteforce" I assumed you were thinking of something more deliberate

hazy fog
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I did then I pivoted when I realized it was a bad argument

velvet fog
gilded tree
bright ridge
#

Really struggling with the rate limits this time around (way too many @ everyone pings on my community channel)

Did anything change this time around?

I understand that public clients have a shared limit but I never ran into this issue before. Everyone is reporting rate limit errors

spring compass
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League start is a challenging time for OAuth users. I'm considering adding it as well, but are people really checking what they have in their stashes? To all seven unique individuals who clicked on the link before: https://ugimser.github.io/, I've incorporated Blight extractor regexes and Anointments. I believe it's almost ready to be showcased.

velvet fog
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[PoEDB] updated to Patch 3.24.0, all gems, items, haunted modifiers, grave modifiers, lantern modifiers, and more...
https://poedb.tw/us/

poedb.tw
PoEDB, Path of Exile Wiki

PoEDB provides things come out each league, as well as items, uniques, skills and passives. Path of Exile Wiki editing functions.

lime bear
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any ideas? :/

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worthy cape
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Very odd tho, that ought to be in the release.

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Oh wait, are you tracking dev or some branch?

lime bear
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community branch

worthy cape
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The file is in the dev branch currently as far as I can see from here on the road.

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I'm curious, are you running unreleased code for any development purposes or just to get all the bugs first? 😉

bright ridge
# bright ridge Really struggling with the rate limits this time around (way too many @ everyone...

Lots of lessons learned from an (attempted) upgrade for 3.24. Putting this up for anyone who cares and can hopefully learn a bit from my mistakes:

After a long sleep I realize what was actually causing the issue.

The entry point to our app included a lookup for leagues to populate a setting.

We recently migrated away from the public leagues endpoint to support looking up private leagues for users. (previously they had to manually enter the custom league name, it was clunky UX so I was like "Hey, I can make this better!")

We didn't change the behavior or flow of the calls:

- User opens app
- App auto-calls (now pointing to rate-limit-enabled / OAuth-enabled) Leagues endpoint
- The shared chaosrecipeenhancer client saw this initial load it has never seen before (league launch setting, users calling authenticated endpoint every time they log in)
- Users see 429 app doesn't work AT ALL gg

So I will revert the change so that we are no longer blasting this on league launch. I am also going to make sure to 'lazily' load this data until the user interacts with that control so that we are also not pumping the numbers on that endpoint (it's not like we have hundreds of thousands of users, but anything to reduce your load)

I'm mainly putting this here for myself. But if anyone else finds issues in their apps after migrating to OAuth endpoints, be mindful of these sorts of impacts.
silver fog
#

Hey folks,

A bit of self-promotion: I've just pushed the league update for Gains of Exile - https://gains-of-exile.vercel.app/, a site to compute optimal harvest-conversions. PoeNinja prices, weights, trade site quick-links, flip cheatsheet, and much much more. Honestly forgot most of the things I implemented by now. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1brp9ik/gains_of_exile_now_standardized_and_necropolized/

If anyone's planning to do any harvest flips this league, feel free to drop by 😉

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unborn wedge
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Anyone have insight on how I can either find or calculate the tier of a mod on an item?
My approach right now is to find all of the mods with a non-zero weight given an item's set of tags, grouping the mods by family, then sorting by level requirement to assign tiers in each family
This seems to work for most mods, but some mods share the same family but are obviously not tiers of the same mod, like hybrid es/life and hybrid es/mana on an int armour

zenith zodiac
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probably just group them by the stats they grant. elevated mods grant an additional stat, but other than that l think tier groups usually all have the same stats

zenith zodiac
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wait nvm there's a 'modtype' column in mods.dat that appears to hold the information you're looking for

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unborn wedge
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oh perfect yeah that's way better than grouping them by stats or family

potent crystal
#

Does someone know when Awakened poe trade will update?

spring compass
#

When you close it 🤣

worthy cape
potent crystal
spring compass
potent crystal
worthy cape
#

Early changes if things are broken can come earlier, while things that are less important can take longer, especially if there's no market value for them.
There's a bus number of 1 for the project and we're also in the middle of Easter.

hazy fog
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@carmine merlin I was going to make an issue but this is too minor to bother with filling out all of that kek immediate results of pasting mjolner into pob add the attribute requirements to it again. If I actually add to character it fixes so there's nothing a character code would show you worryupside

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waxen musk
#

the tree in the client is not the same as the preview ones, or am i tripping?

worthy cape
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Atlas or passive?

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Note that there's different atlas trees for league and permanent.

waxen musk
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ooh ouch

primal schooner
#

For Corpse Crafting, do we know if rating removes flat count of mod tiers or does it remove % of weight from the bottom up for that tag ?

frank drift
#

you might want to go back and watch how Mark describes it

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from what I recall him describing, entire tiers are removed

primal schooner
#

yeah, I have, liek 6 times and i keep waffleing between weight and count

velvet fog
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it keeps higher tier, 100/(X+100), ex: +100 rating = 100/(100+100), keep 50% higher tier

primal schooner
#

do we know that from scraping GGPK, or another verified source?

oak estuary
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you might want to go back and watch how Mark describes it

velvet fog
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Mark describe +100 rating = 50% discard, +200 rating = 66% discard

primal schooner
#

what's the timestamp ?

velvet fog
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it just same as scarcer modifier

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you can open youtube transcript, and search the context for interesting keyword

serene belfry
#

@wet hollow this channel is for developers. Please refrain from posting here. Use #stream-sharing

pseudo ocean
#

does anyone have awakneed trade working for the new scarabs?

velvet fog
#

does anyone know the calculation of mod tiering, which parameter is based on the same group, because now ModFamily is plural

velvet fog
hazy fiber
#

interesting, almost there, if you get it to properly calculate then people will finaly have a tool to learn to craft properly with it

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so that I can stop seeing streamers with their terrable 50+ corpse crafts that have almost 0% chance for success complain that it gave a bad item

frank drift
#

if people are complaining it's because the system is designed poorly

hazy fiber
# velvet fog

its just a new system (the tiering thing shown here ^) and is super easy to understand, its just most people dont think about it and so only tier up the mods they want and not ones they dont want (to block them)

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so its designed well, just comunicated poorly

worthy cape
velvet fog
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ModFamily may have different craft tags, can't be used as a group.

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carmine merlin
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@nova hamlet ^?

spring compass
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How to sensibly check whether regexes are generated correctly?

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or should I copy them instead of creating new ones?

verbal flower
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Guys help, I'm trying to send json, but it doesn't work because of cors (I think so).
Sent from a firefox extension.
Return comes from the red arrows.

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prisma prism
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Hello, does anyone know where is the mapping mod id <-> mod name stored on the trade site? I am trying to locate it but cannot see it anywhere. (i.e. 200% increased chance of Lightning Modifiers is necropolis.stat_3824746815)

worthy cape
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Haven't looked at normal mods/stats, but I believe for the Ultimatum "umods" the number was the hash in the game file data table.
Not sure if there's any lookup on the trade client side.

velvet fog
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You can't mapping it

carmine merlin
prisma prism
primal schooner
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is there a way to force AwakenedPOEtrade to update? I've closed and reopened it 6 times and it still hasn't updated even though it says it's ready to install

oak estuary
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How long do you wait before reopening it?

primal schooner
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15-20 sec a couple of those attempts

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there's no isntaller or antyhing so idk if anythign is happeneing or when

fickle yew
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Does anyone know how the corpse crafting works with corpse levels? Is it just average to produce the item level?

primal schooner
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yeah ras what yo uened to know

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I've been working with NEb from COE on it last 2 days

fickle yew
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Basically looking at a coffin overview - trying to figure out how to group the corpses. Modifier is obvious - considering what to do with corpse level and monster category demon etc.

primal schooner
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by tag

fickle yew
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But what about levels? Will people only want to buy 82+?

primal schooner
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so, my philosophy for crafting is : Players are going to want to do it by base then by affix

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so for me, ideally, step 1 is to reduce ALL tags (of both wanted and unwanted tags) on the base you want.

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then to increases the tags of the affixes yo uwant

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oh

fickle yew
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I want to understand how the corpse levels work 😄

primal schooner
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i think the resultant item will just be the ilvl of hte lowest corpse yo uuse

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not sure if it's avg

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never checked that yet

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someone here might know

formal kraken
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it's definitely neither of those

primal schooner
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if it's lowest, possibly. if its average yeah 82 for sures

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i mean ilvl of corpse has to come into play somehow

formal kraken
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it seems more like it's similar to alva

worthy cape
primal schooner
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so it's the avg calc

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as opposed to jsut ilvl of lowest corpse

fickle yew
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So a level 25 corpse with a rare mod might still be worth something.

worthy cape
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(and then there's the +ilvl mod that can shift it further I guess)

fickle yew
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Hmm maybe I should just set up some level ranges to group by.

primal schooner
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i mean short of someone having direct contact w/ someone that can verify this, idk how we'd know that.

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welll thinking about it, does it even mattter?

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if it's not lowest ilvl

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won't any 100 rating / 500% increase / etc be worth it

fickle yew
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I just want to figure out how to group them in my overview so I could help people actually trade them more..

formal kraken
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I'd guess people would ignore ilvl and discard everything under a certain ilvl

fickle yew
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Well you your ilevel becomes too low you can't get your tier 1 mods you're rolling for.

primal schooner
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right, but if you are doing like 30+ corpses 1-2 lvl 70+ corpse should affect it much even if it was straight average

fickle yew
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Right

primal schooner
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idk if that's something you need to accoutn for

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if it's easy maybe just do it in blocks

fickle yew
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Maybe I'll just do ranges like I did with cluster jewels, although they have much more meaningful breakpoints..

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primal schooner
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yeah it looks like doing blocks up to avg affix ilvl breakpoint seems fine

fickle yew
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How important is the monster category? Demon, Beast, Construct etc?

primal schooner
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idk if that has any affect

fickle yew
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I haven't gotten to use the mechanic that much yet, only level 70.

primal schooner
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i know some familiesh ave requirements of other family members

fickle yew
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I did see some mods that affect corpses of a certain category also buried etc.

primal schooner
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haven't seen one that requires a type

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i haven't seen one of those

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i've been mostly working on crafting philosophy and backend maths

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haven't looked at front end pricing type stuff

fickle yew
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Example: 5% chance for Undead Corpses to not be consumed when Exorcising, up to 50%

primal schooner
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i mean...

fickle yew
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I think I'll just ignore category for now.

primal schooner
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yeah unless like they have those corpses AND they happen to have a significant amount of that type in their craft layout, 5% is like ... meh

fickle yew
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I just want to create a basic overview for corpses so people can get a bit of help actually finding out what to trade.

primal schooner
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tbh idk if ppl would even collect that if they saw it

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(50, maybe) 100 rating, (300) 500% increased chance, decreases chance, etc

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all of the top tier tag affect corpses

fickle yew
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I'll take all mods

primal schooner
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yeah i think that would probably be the best layout

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i mean, all the data you are pulling is just based on the stream data anyways, right?

fickle yew
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Yep

primal schooner
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yeah, that seems like a good layout. the rest will work itself out

fickle yew
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Will try to do item level breakpoints 1-69, 70-79, 80-83 and 84+... A bit random but

primal schooner
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i can get it to update. i've waited 5 minutes between 2 attmpts now, and nothing

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nvm found the install button through opening it in a web browser

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i'll jsut do it that way from now on

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... 🤦‍♂️

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POE was in run as admin

carmine merlin
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@fickle yew in regards to the corpse types, the one people will care about are the increased Effect of "Corpse Type" Corpses adjacent to this Corpse which will be used in conjunction with the expensive corpses e.g.fracture, 6 link etc

fickle yew
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Suspicious since it says implicit.stat_XXX instead of the actual necropolis.stat_XXX

cedar salmon
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hey, im trying to make my own tool for necropolis corpse crafting because whats on poedb is missing some things and seems to break down occasionally but i cant figure out how to get all the mods with tiers and weightings etc for all the different item types neatly organized into a file or a spreadsheet (without manually copy pasting and formatting everything). I've tried to figure out how to use RePoe as well as the dev tools on poedb but im not getting anywhere

velvet fog
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missing some things?

cedar salmon
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just not really sure how to get started

velvet fog
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(Raising Modifier Tier Rating excludes lower tier Modifiers from rolling, distributing their roll chance among higher tier Modifiers of the same Modifier type)
how to distribute the weight?

primal schooner
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it's not

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it's bad wording

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rating truncates tiers

velvet fog
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the first paragraph Raising Modifier Tier Rating excludes lower tier Modifiers from rolling is truncates tiers, distributing their roll chance among higher tier Modifiers of the same Modifier type should distribute the truncated weights

primal schooner
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but it doesn't, as described by mark in the interview

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because he said you could (prior to these new changes when they go live) make a tag only T2/T1, but it'd be impossibly hard to hit because there's no weight left

hazy fiber
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yes hence, why we are talking about them changing it

primal schooner
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COE has a beta corpse option in the calculator now

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just FYI

frank drift
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nebuchenazarr works in mysterious ways

primal schooner
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it uses all the assumptions we'vebeen discussing

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not updated for new info obv

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it does a linear calc as you add each corpse to see which one affects the craft the most, and continutes up to 86/88 total corpses

velvet fog
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what mark said conflicts with the description in the game.

primal schooner
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yeah, so i'm assumign because they went through a bunch of iterations

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as stated

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they jsut forgot to update the text

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he also mentions in there that they went with working with overall weighting and then they moved to truncating tiers by count (paraphrasing) so i'm assuming that text is just a remnant from a previous version

exotic egret
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Does nebuchenazarr lurk here?

hazy fiber
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he lurks in tfts tooldev iirc

exotic egret
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Because if they do, can they please make the nav use actual links rather than divs with event listeners so that middle click works

frank drift
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@nova hamlet

velvet fog
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It is difficult to verify whether the game description is correct. After all, there are many random components, a large amount of testing data is required, and it is likely to be changed at any time.

dull dune
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k

spring compass
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I didn't think it would be so difficult to promote something. I posted on Reddit, and out of 1,000 views, only 4 people clicked the link to actually see the website.

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Good that I bought the cheapest domain for $1.4 😄

compact wigeon
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Took me six months to get people talking about path of pathing properly

worthy cape
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I can't wait for 2035 when my Hideout Editor is ready to release to all five people who make hideouts.

spring compass
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It's so hard to get feedback. The creator uses their own eyes; they know where things are and what to do and didn't know what didn't work (sometimes)

formal kraken
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maybe would be good if you can zoom out to get a bigger working area

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don't need all the info readable any ways

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and just zoom in into what I need

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Also it would help if the page loaded with a default, if anyone checks it out they can already see how it looks like

spring compass
hazy fiber
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cool site but,

Please note: Don't build anything complex here. This page is very young and will undergo frequent changes.
reduces the chance I put significant time into getting used to using it at this stage

other minor notes, yoke of suffering needs to be removed from the gwennen regex (as its now a t17 map boss drop).

Drops from Nightmare of the Unbreakable
same with wraithlord or whatever the helm is called

the syndicate button for "edit - fullscreen" wasnt immediately apparent it would let me edit the syndicate members ( I attempted to drag members around which obviously would be a terrible way to edit it, but also assumed the button would make the syndicate panel go fullscreen), this doesnt really need to be fixed and is likely just me being dumb

hazy fiber
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also theres an interesting issue, if I scroll all the way down, and then click the element to move it and its the only reason its scrolled, it will move it up until there is no scroll anymore

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eg before and after clicking syndicate (second image has no scroll bar becouse it moved it up)

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spring compass
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Yoke of Suffering and Wraithlord have been removed. Poedb says they are boss-limited drops, and Gwennen can only give items that can be chanced. Tyvm

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I had a big red arrow in syndicate panel, but it looks so bad that I left it as it is now.

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it will move it up until there is no scroll
this is a bug

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good, I have something to work on

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I may add animation so that when someone clicks on the Syndicate image edit button, the border color changes?

spring compass
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It looks funny to me. I'm new here; could you tell me if your post looks the same?

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formal kraken
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don't take the amount of views or feedback you get as a benchmark, some posts just get randomly more traffic/interaction, especially if they cause some drama or unrelated discussions. Also it's really hard to write a good post to describe a tool, it's less about what the tool can do, it should be more about what the tool does for the player, etc.

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But developing a tool purely for views/interactions is not gonna be a fun endevour, at least wouldn't be for me

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take the small wins, take it is a fun project, heck that's how pobbin started, initially I wasn't even gonna publish it

spring compass
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"what the tool does for the player" - I think the key is to create something useful that a streamer can use on their stream.

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I only don't want to be forgotten. I used this page for myself in the last league, but there are not so many people who are spamming boss carries and challenge posts.

spring compass
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If only people who downvote would write a word about what is wrong or doesn't work from their perspective. The world would be better.

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worthy cape
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PES2_AngeryDownvote my tummy feels funny

formal kraken
grave wren
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there will always be downvotes on reddit, doesnt matter much. I didnt advertise my discord bot at all basically because i mostly made it for myself and my enjoyment. Getting it used here was a nice bonus tho.

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my personal feelings on your site:

  • i really dont like windowing on websites
  • the syndicate thing really doesnt tell me much, i'd rather use one of the existing images with awakened trade macro
  • i'd rather use my local text editor and be sure the data is kept vs what you say
  • the gwennen regexes seem static and i cant adjust them like i can with alternatives for a stricter cutoff
  • The design is functional but its not how i normally interact with the web so it feels a bit alien
primal schooner
hazy fiber
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they are already very common, and based on what they said it will be way more common, so doubt many of them will be worth anything

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even frogs/meatsacks

primal schooner
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the problem is that every other 3rd party resources uses poe.ninja's api

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so there's no awakened poe trade, filterblade, etc

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and there are several VERY expensive Allflames

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also, it's just data

spring compass
# grave wren my personal feelings on your site: - i really dont like windowing on websites - ...

"of the existing images " the force of habit. Small panels are created based on data from large panels, and the "Standard" spreadsheet is available in full screen.
"be sure the data is kept " data will stay with you until you clear local storage, but this is the first thing I made for myself. So many times I copied posts without WTS...
"gwennen regexes seem static " yes, and I'm not sure if I should change it. I mean, it costs time and gives nothing, from a trading league experience. Things like this are far away on the todo list, but they are there.

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@fickle yew poe.ninja has 1089 unique items. Is there a good way to mark only those that can be chanced? For now, I've manually written down the 139 most expensive items...

hazy fiber
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suggestion for one of the tree tool people, shared tree instance on web where multiple people can edit and see changes in real time, like google docs, but for trees

formal kraken
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Didn't someone make that for the krangled league with hidden passive tree?

hazy fiber
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I think so, there was some friction like needing to reload of somthing but it worked pretty well

fickle yew
primal schooner
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i hate corpses

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because they already use the keyword corpse(s)

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bodies, carcasses, graves, coffins, etc

primal schooner
fickle yew
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I meant the section with corpses in coffins.. Should that be called coffins or corpses? You buy coffins but they contain corpses..

fickle yew
hexed mesa
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I guess we had corpses in the affliction league too, but I doubt we will have two kinds of corpses at the same time if one league goes core

clever thistle
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i vote coffins 🙂

fickle yew
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I guess I'll do coffins. That's also the icon..

primal schooner
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coffins sounds good for the corpses

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but those shoudl be a separate list form allflames

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the 2 have nothing to do w/ one another

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other than both being league mechanics

spring compass
primal schooner
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youcan only use chaos orbs on T17 maps

velvet fog
fickle yew
velvet fog
spring compass
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T17 maps can have only those mods? GGG could make maps with reward T18, or separate them in some other way.

velvet fog
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not all, some are missing

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the calculation of uber tier map is very different from the other three, and I haven’t fully mastered it yet.

strong badge
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@fickle yew will you add allflames aswell? 😄 im kinda thinking of dropping a new update for exilence but it would be awesome to add coffins + allflames into it

carmine merlin
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Anyone know if there's something in the game files for if an item can still drop in current leagues?
I'm trying to restrict Tattoo's in PoB to only show the ones currently attainable but couldn't find anything
Tried using website visibility of 1 but that was wrong for a couple Tattoos (Loyalty Rakiata and Journey tattoos)

velvet fog
hazy fiber
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hazy fiber
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yeah I assumed so, more so feel sorry for him, as I assume hes been asked many times more than what I have seen

cedar salmon
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hey, anyone know where i could report a craftofexile bug?

worthy cape
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new table necropoliscraftbases, changed width for necropoliscraftitemtypes (reduced), whole bunch of row and bulk data changes

worthy cape
cedar salmon
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yea thats where i reached him, thanks!

worthy cape
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Someone really needs to build a website to compare the DAT metadata across patches.

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I'm unfortunately allergic to webs.

fickle yew
fickle yew
worthy cape
# fickle yew How do I generate the diff? Could maybe do it.

I generate data files offline that outline each DAT file in each build (via a local dat-shape tool on a prod instance).
JSON data files are pushed to a repo at https://github.com/pale-court/dat-meta, where global.json maps build IDs to human-readable game versions with files like builds/build-13930733.json for each individual build.
The index can contain releases it's aware of before the version is determined and the data is processed, but otherwise it's fairly atomic.

velvet fog
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I have patch reports for each patch

worthy cape
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The reports I share now are pretty much diff -u5 build-{$1,$2}.json and git diff -U5 --word-diff --no-index build-{$1,$2}.json; while a website would be able to answer more intelligent questions like "what changed between any two builds?".

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worthy cape
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Some projects don't look at DATs mid-league or between milestone patches, leading to a baseline of "whenever we last did this, league start?".

fickle yew
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fickle yew
strong badge
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😄

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haha it happens

fickle yew
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What does the monster level actually affect on the allflame embers?

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You usually use them for the mod

strong badge
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i think the monster level has to be in a similar range to the map

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ill check it gimme one sec

fickle yew
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Would be nice to know. If I need to do level ranges like for coffins

strong badge
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@fickle yew yea like predicted

worthy cape
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Heh, the ClientStrings ID is spelled innovatively: ItemWarningAreaLevelPackLevelMistmatch

fickle yew
fickle yew
strong badge
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yea just confirmed by buying some allflames its 8lvl difference to the maps monsterlvl

fickle yew
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I'll probably do 1-59, 60-75 and 76+ then. Second being ones you can apply to at least a tier 1 map.

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fickle yew
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Sounds fun though

primal schooner
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where's the best place to view either JS and or PHP to access a specific stash tab for a player's account?

hexed mesa
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you mean like check someone else's code to see how they do it? probably GitHub?

civic crane
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wow poe is popular in brazil. APT google search

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gritty olive
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heh added a theme system to this thing

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Still some missing pieces like 85% done, ugly colors to show whats not converted

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I mostly rock this one or the cyan atm

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spring compass
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Changing colors/design is the most annoying thing for me. Move 1px to the left, maybe 4 to the right, okay, maybe #334, no #339, no #324... looks bad, delete all changes from the last 30 minutes, again... Really best wishes to you

gritty olive
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I made a lot of it pretty simple, anyone using tailwind would instantly get it, used color scales:

    BorderHover = Theme.Colors.Gray[5],
    BorderActive = Theme.Colors.Gray[4],
    BorderFocused = Theme.Colors.Gray[5],

which is a "Base Theme" that gets applied to all components, so you can individually theme a component or just use a base theme:

Theme.CalcBreakdown = Theme.Base
Theme.CalcSection = Theme.Base

However, future things I would like to do will be difficult without a lot of code change:

  • padding
  • rounded corners
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Could probably simplify it down to 5 colors

civic crane
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does pob even can render rounded corners?

gritty olive
compact wigeon
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Do you intend to get it merged into PoB?

gritty olive
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at some point yes

hazy fiber
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theres already some theme stuff around, interested how yours differs from that

gritty olive
hazy fiber
hazy fiber
gritty olive
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oh I see

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yeah I found it

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Similar but better imo

velvet fog
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Grave Calc for increased Effect of Corpses in same row/col/adjacent

worthy cape
spring compass
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Today I don't have anything new for you, but... I'm so happy. GitHub Action started working properly, and I don't need to change files manually on the server anymore 😄

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How often should I send requests to poe.ninja? @fickle yew

civic crane
worthy cape
civic crane
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nice

worthy cape
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Did you mean full "maintain" rights or "write" by the way? Aimed for the former.

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aang is in, @zenith zodiac is pending response.

civic crane
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don't know how they differ, just want them to be able to merge owns pr's and have push access 🙂

worthy cape
shy marten
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Anyone here involved with poe-antiquary.xyz? Looks like their HTTPS cert expired on Tue, 02 Apr 2024 17:27:44 GMT.

worthy cape
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I'll set it to Write, that's what you have.

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No idea about antiquary, but there's a contact email under the Privacy policy.

fickle yew
spring compass
civic crane
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@spring compass

  1. cache time is 15min, so sending request earlier is pointless
  2. if possible use single endpoint poe.ninja/api/data/DenseOverviews?league=${league.id}&language=en
spring compass
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No problem! I'm sending a request every 2 hours. I thought it might be too frequent.

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Is there any reason to generate regexes for Allflames or Coffins? Does anyone need them?

civic crane
spring compass
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"It seems like nothing will come out of this; I have no idea how it works. 'Defence' highlights Gem..."

hazy fiber
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it uses the defence colour is my guess

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so its searching the rawtext before the colour codes are taken out

civic crane
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(talking about inline text markup in Metadata/StatDescriptions/necropolis_stat_descriptions.txt)

strong badge
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@fickle yew anything else we can help with? 😄

spring compass
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https://mypoe.site/
Coffin regex. I'm posting it here only, not sure if it works properly. I've been telling myself for 6 hours that I'll finish in 30 minutes. I'm going to sleep. If someone wants, please check the regex. It works for my 6 corpses.

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spring compass
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Maybe later, now I'm too tired. Who thought that it would be good to have two different regexes for stash and necropolis morgue? Yes, I generated and tested it in my stash, and then noted that what works in stash doesn't work in the morgue.

worthy cape
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Probably looking at different underlying item text - the stash is more generic while the underlying data for the UI might be a bit more specific to make it less ambigious.

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Hard to tell what it is tho, considering you can't ^C that.

velvet fog
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The Taiwanese translation is a bit bad this time , a lot of affixes are not translated correctly, resulting in the trade and the game displaying blank affixes , and the trade cannot be searched.


description
    1 map_necropolis_haunted_mod_effect_+%
    2
        1|# "{}% increased effect of Haunted Modifiers on Monsters in your Maps"
        #|-1 "{}% reduced effect of Haunted Modifiers on Monsters in your Maps" negate 1
    lang "Traditional Chinese"
    1
        1|# "糾纏詞綴的效果對你地圖中的怪物增加 {}%"

I've written posts on the forums and letters to customer service, but they all say they don't know when they'll be updated!

# 
1 map_bosses_have_azmeri_dust_if_fewer_than_x_monsters_remain
2
    1 "If there is fewer than 1 monster remaining in your Maps, Final Map Bosses\nare Empowered by Wildwood Wisps"
    2|# "If there are fewer than {0} monsters remaining in your Maps, Final Map Bosses\nare Empowered by Wildwood Wisps"
lang "Traditional Chinese"
1
    1 "你地圖中剩餘的怪物少於 {0} 時，\n最終地圖頭目受荒林妖精強化"

There are a lot of issues that were reported last league and have not been fixed.

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empty Filled Coffin (it's has affix +Mod Tier Rating, but can't search)

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empty passives

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spring compass
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I wouldn't have started it if I knew how much I don't know.

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It's so anoying

uneven venture
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Can PoB compiled to run on MacOS?

grave wren
uneven venture
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Thanks, I want to debug the source but this is a good start

spring compass
#

How on earth did someone enter my website from a link on YouTube?

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formal forge
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some youtuber put the link in their video description

spring compass
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And 1, exactly one person click on that link? 😄

hazy fiber
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as you yourself figured out, people dont really click links, so very possible if its a small youtuber

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or could even have been the youtuber themselves testing out the link

spring compass
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I was thinking the same thing. Some yt just check if the link works. Yes, my post from yesterday got 33k views, but only 127 people clicked the link.

worthy cape
uneven venture
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Didn't want to install a dev env on my Windows gaming PC.

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Wanted to know if there's some show stopper that prevents it from running on mac down the road before I start wasting time.

hushed relic
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Is there a decent API to get inventory images/icons for specific basetypes/item names?

worthy cape
# uneven venture Wanted to know if there's some show stopper that prevents it from running on mac...

There's "three" ways to run PoB on macOS: a) Wine-based products like Whisky, GPTK and Crossover; b) the unofficial distribution from the forums on pobfrontend, and c) technically the actual real deal on the official SimpleGraphic runtime.

a) We aim to not break the Wine way on Linux and macOS irrecoverably with any changes to the proper PoB runtime and Lua as there's a fair amount of users on it; but there's always the risk of having to tinker a bit on the platforms, like when we changed renderer recently with some fallout.

b) The unofficial distribution of PoB on pobfrontend on Linux and macOS is at risk for the future as we evolve both the real PoB runtime and the Lua code, due to that the maintainership of their runtime is unclear and their ability to catch up to changes is uncertain.

c) Finally, and the reason why I scare-quoted "three", is the most fun way. The official SimpleGraphic runtime is after I refreshed it way more portable than the old WinAPI-heavy code, as it's built on GLFW and leverages ANGLE for API support. There's some holes in the API surface like spawning subprocesses and opening URLs, but an enthusiast could envisionably write a launcher for it and figure out the update and file storage story for it.
We don't have any resources nor much of a wish to maintain nor support other OSes there, as the platforms tend to come with more problems and we don't have the people or competence to do it long-term past proof-of-concept.

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The debugging story is similar for B and C; the runtime is native code and is debugged with your favourite debugger/IDE and RenderDoc. The Lua code can be debugged with the EmmyLua module to interface with an outside debugger on Windows; it's assumedly similar on other OSes.

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As you can see, you've got to be a bit more precise on what it is you're trying to do and for what purpose here for a more direct answer 🙂

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@worthy cape Thanks a lot for the detailed response. I'm toying around with the idea of browser based pob. Probably nothing will get out of it but I'm having fun, starting with the passive tree editor. So I thought I'd look at the data structures and functions in the lua code.

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Don't actually need to run it on Mac, just thought live debugging will be easier for me to understand stuff.

worthy cape
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Ah right, that rings a bell. You've got a lot of fun ahead of you then 😄

uneven venture
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It's certainly a lot of work but it's not that crazy to do it in browser canvas/svg. Many of the hassles that you had to struggle with, graphics and UI, are already built in.

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Add a good reactive framework and it's a lot less impossible than it sounds.

spring compass
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I think I should improve the visibility of the page.

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worthy cape
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Largest friction I expect, still the Lua runtime and our abuse of it.

uneven venture
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Largest friction for what?

worthy cape
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Adaptation.

uneven venture
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Why would I want to use that?

worthy cape
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PoB fundamentally uses Lua. Unless you plan on eternally forking, that's what you get to use.

uneven venture
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I know it uses lua, but there is no need to...

worthy cape
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Reshaping the whole Lua side in something else is magnitudes more work and something that even the team with all the collaborators aren't embarking on - the evolution plan there is "spreadsheet engine from scratch".

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The whole core of the simulation is in Lua. All contributions are in Lua. If you adopt something else you're going to have to reimplement all the quirks and structure of the thing in some other language.
If you do that, you're going either end up with something very much resembling Lua idioms in that other language, or something that diverges in functionality.

uneven venture
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At the bottom of it, it's just math, no? Functions and data that can be ported.

worthy cape
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Less math and more data structures and logic that reshapes that data.

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There's the mod DB, the character data, and then the magic sauce is in the imperative logic that calculates the state from that.

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The thing that's being ported then is "the whole thing", pretty much.

uneven venture
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But it's still a deterministic system that can be, at least at first, duplicated.

worthy cape
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I don't mean to discourage you from playing around, just noting the scope of it, up-front and ongoing.

uneven venture
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You can discourage me, I will discourage myself when I get bored or find something else 🙂

worthy cape
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New features tend to fall into two categories - being able to add a mapping for a mod and have the logic just magically interpret it, and "oh gods, why is everything on fire now?"

uneven venture
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My point is, it's a lot of data and logic. but it's "just" data and logic, it can be be ported to other languages.

spring compass
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Sorry for the spam, but yes, someone made a video of my page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exogIA2ti6o First time 😄 Sadly, translation is not available; maybe he is saying bad things 😛 @hazy fiber

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worthy cape
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(I'm disappointed that there's no giphy for Stargate SG-1's "nothing of the host survives")

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People have tried. Some still try.

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Time to wobble off for F1 and to break the runtime more. comfy_wave

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In any way, there's documentation in the repo on the overall structure of Calc*.lua, never looked much at it as it's not my wheelhouse.

uneven venture
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Starting with the passive tree editor as it seems mainly UI/graphics work with more of a straight forward logic.

hushed relic
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Sorry to ask again, but does anyone know the answer to this:
Is there a decent API to get inventory images/icons for specific basetypes/item names?

formal kraken
hushed relic
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thanks, I'll look into it

worthy cape
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The roughest assets are probably ones like flasks and maps, as those are composed server-side.

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Those peeps tend to source from the CDN via trade, unless they're crazy enough like the wiki (me) to emulate what the game does.

formal kraken
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the other way to get the assets is grabbing them from trade/the stashtab river

hushed relic
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Thanks guys

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Yeah, I wanted to have a script to have an icon for every item on filterblade

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I've been nomming off the icons from poe.ninja as it grabs the icon CDN url

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and downloading those

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but some basetypes are missing

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like the chaos orb (because 1c is worth 1c...)

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so I was looking for a way to automate this part, sadly so far running my own poe trade crawler seems to be the best automated approach

formal kraken
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Yeah I think your best bet is the RePoE fork I linked, currently the most complete way (and scriptable?) of accessing game file assets afaik

uneven venture
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Why not get them directly from game assets?

worthy cape
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RePoE does that work already, including the chore of keeping the specs up to date and running the process.

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Including, if you're not using Inya like the cool peeps, ensuring that you have a local up-to-date copy of the game assets for ingestion.

formal kraken
uneven venture
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Oh, if someone already done the work, sure.

worthy cape
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Took me years to ship Inya, and that doesn't even process the data 😄

uneven venture
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What's Inya?

worthy cape
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Web API for arbitrary file access to any bundled or loose file from any PoE release since 1.0.0.

uneven venture
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Whoa...

worthy cape
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Built it for data mining and tool use to not have to deal with data extraction and unwieldy file trees on client computers and service machines.

uneven venture
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Sounds really cool. Would have been useful to know when I was cursing that obscure bundle packing algorithm.

worthy cape
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Originally made it for the ever-stale hideout editor and model viewer codebase.

ebon vault
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Hey, can anyone confirm if PoB calculates Minion crit chance correctly for Holy Relic of Conviction? I equipped Maata's Teachings and also checked "Minions use Power Charges" and both seem broken. The former doesn't get applied at all, the later uses player power charge scaling. Additionally, cooldown reduction scaling via quality doesn't seem to be applied correctly. Running from the latest dev branch

pallid wraith
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pallid wraith
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Ok

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They had that yes

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They don't have it though

ebon vault
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Ah, in the past that was the number? I suppose I'm just out of date, then. I still don't believe PoB is calculating CDR correctly with quality scaling on this gem

ebon vault
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Weirdly enough I just got a white screen from some issue, reloaded PoB and now the scaling is being correctly applied. So I might have just hit a strange bug

covert heath
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hey, where are the "shared items" from PoB are stored?

carmine merlin
spring compass
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Do you think I should leave it as it is, or change it so that copying converts the content into an image? Currently, it separately copies the selected text or the entire text + images as PNG files are copied to the clipboard on the left mouse button click. I can't figure out how to set both text and image to the Windows clipboard simultaneously.

clever thistle
compact isle
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First one does conditions first, v2 does conditions while summing

spring compass
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Please give me your opinion about the colors, whether they are better or worse than before (pure gray everywhere).

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spring compass
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Could you please move the Client.txt file to the My Games folder? Because it is in Program Files, I cannot read its changes from the browser. Desktop programs do not have such restrictions.

hexed mesa
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well its up to you where the game is installed isnt it?

hazy fiber
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that doesnt help them if somone else wants to use the site

worthy cape
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I'm surprised you have access to any arbitrary local files at all.

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Looking forward to your website grabbing my several-hundred-meg Client.txt.

gilded tree
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Would port the app to desktop if that’s a wanted feature.

terse summit
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yo guys, im a little ocnfused about what tools go against TOS, are sending clicks to POE considered illegal?

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if so are autologout stuff considered illegal? auto hideout with awakened poe?

worthy cape
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For a given user action, it should result in the same game action sent to the game. Hit F5 to /hideout, copy item data under the cursor on a price-check, etc.
You can't ratchet different actions on a single user action; you can't make intelligent choices based on external or internal state, you can't do things without explicit user interaction to do the thing.

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The APT keys all do a single identical thing every time they run, they're fine.
"Logout macros" like the lutbot one disconnects the client in a reasonably kosher way on explicit user interaction, also fine.

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"autologout" as in something that reads process memory or sniffs network traffic to tell if you're about to die? Heck no.

spring compass
spring compass
terse summit
worthy cape
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As long as it's the kind of common client action that you'd expect from the above, yeah, probably.
You can always ask if what you're making fits the spirit of the rules.

terse summit
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alright, maybe i can show you what im making right now and you can tell me if it is allowed? Im not really good with terms and conditions as u can tell LMAO

terse summit
worthy cape
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Just ask in here and we'll give an opinion, no worries.

terse summit
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alright

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simple script where i can select a grid representing my inventory, i can shift and click 2 poitns to select all. and when ok is pressed it deposits all selected cells into my stash

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hand pain inspired me to make this

silent tree
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that's one button doing multiple shiftclicks into stash is it not

terse summit
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hmm then in that case can i make it so that per ok press it deposits 1 item?

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so i can just keep my mouse still

silent tree
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unless someone else wants to chime in that'd be ok i think

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as log as you're not reading the screen to see where items are i guess?

terse summit
hexed mesa
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likely against the tos since theres actual logic moving the cursor, unless you want to have a keybind per inventory slot i doubt that will be okay

civic crane
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pressing "ok" would move mouse to different positions wich is an alternating action

silent tree
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dang didn't realise that counted too

terse summit
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ah shit i see

worthy cape
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Sneaky, isn't it? 😄

terse summit
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i didnt even think about that

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is there anyway i can do this then to fit TOS

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my hand pain is begging for solutions