1┃general

[wheat sinew]

I need to lvl up archwings

and I don't wanna xd

[silent leaf]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrRbCzbZfNdRrCF8JDwhdhHIvdm62nHDwbSFg8Iov3s/edit?usp=sharing yep still have it

[crisp obsidian]

warframe is a disgusting p2w game

ew

[modest sparrow]

Holy shit

[dense rock]

frost, limbo, that pistol lady and ember/spore lady 😛 aint nothing reaching the damn defense objective

[modest sparrow]

Weak ragebait tho :(

[dense rock]

throw in max range / min duration nidus to bunch up whole map once every 1.5secs

[dusty mesa]

limbo players disgust me

[wheat sinew]

#other-games gib your build

[dense rock]

absolute godtier in a group that knows how to abuse it

[dusty mesa]

yea unfortunately most dont

[silent leaf]

wym, just press 4 and 2

[dusty mesa]

I had rando limbos

[cosmic reef]

if im gonna play slop like warframe im gonna play something from japan or korea that also has some tits

[crisp obsidian]

it used to be p2w atleast

[silent leaf]

in excav of Mobi def

or def

[crisp obsidian]

and will be forever cause of that

[silent leaf]

in excav / mobi def -> press 4 and 2

and alt tab

[dense rock]

bro does not know the glory that is assframe

[silent leaf]

ngl i fucking loved warframe story

until they introduced children

why

and its downhill cringe after

[mental nymph]

I'm at chimera quest

Haven't played since league start

[wheat sinew]

and then they fixed it with 1999

[silent leaf]

o right they added josuke

[tacit crow]

yo

[mental nymph]

Hi Kafka

[cosmic sapphire]

So I’m confused what does warframe have to do with poe

[crisp obsidian]

well both are bad games

[mental nymph]

Nothing ,there have been talk about various games for more than an hour now

[hard cliff]

based

[cosmic sapphire]

I know. That’s the point

[dusty mesa]

yuzu do I make vaal LS build or give up on league

[crisp obsidian]

give up

[cosmic sapphire]

Dom blow

Trickster

[dusty mesa]

[karmic gust]

make vaal volcanic fissure instaed

and not soy vaal ls

[mental nymph]

Just give up

[karmic gust]

vaal volcanic fissur eis actually pretty strong too and better clear :d

[cosmic sapphire]

Tect slam zerker

[tacit crow]

hi

[karmic gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt_LuPOcO4U

[cosmic sapphire]

How would you even get souls to use it

[crisp obsidian]

hateforge

[karmic gust]

yea just hateforge + vaal temptation

[cosmic sapphire]

🤢

[dusty mesa]

yea and hateforge is basically free

I actually bought a hateforge, but Im just gaming on TS atm

[crisp obsidian]

aaa I want anomalous/divergent/etc gems back

they were so fun

[dusty mesa]

poison spark

[cosmic sapphire]

Mods. Take his ankles

[crisp obsidian]

Modmail'd.

[karmic gust]

anomalous AA

pls

[cosmic sapphire]

[dusty mesa]

my only issue is vls looks more satisfying

[crisp obsidian]

mmm 8 more

[dusty mesa]

vf looks almost like cremation

[cosmic sapphire]

Got a pob

[crisp obsidian]

just fix it

[cosmic sapphire]

I might try it. Pretty much done with spectres

[crisp obsidian]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage?items=Hateforge&skills=Vaal+Volcanic+Fissure actually 4 gamers this league

sheesh

[nova lion]

or one guy four alts ;]

[crisp obsidian]

nah

this name is too cringe for it to be someones alt

[silent leaf]

ayo is that a new skill gem

[crisp obsidian]

no thanks

[dusty mesa]

aight I wonder if I should shako this

[nova minnow]

which part of this is foulborn

[gentle chasm]

something that rolled 0

[nova minnow]

i'd be able to see what rolled 0 tho

[gentle chasm]

does it work like that

its Debuffs on you expire (-20-20)% faster

[nova minnow]

oh

yeah i just pulled up the wiki

[nova minnow]

I am a lyer

[hard cliff]

the owner

https://tenor.com/view/you-smell-stinky-you-stinky-you-stink-wow-gif-24104350

[nova minnow]

[hard cliff]

just a little banter

🫡

[nova minnow]

ur poo poo bleed

not caustic arrow

[hard cliff]

I played caustic Arrow death oath occ a few leagues ago

cool skill esp the vaal part

[nova minnow]

Chaos dot sucks now tho

[hoary scarab]

piragoon

[nova minnow]

give me back awakened void manip

[hard cliff]

well it also sucked then

[tranquil sedge]

lol
spawned but cant enter

[dense rock]

denied by the mirage gods

[mental nymph]

Yup I really hate this bullshit

[tranquil sedge]

first time i've ever seen it in hundreds of maps so ntb tbh

[mental nymph]

Either that or another mechanic you can't block taking it's place

[tranquil sedge]

just funny

now that is frustrating

coz boxes and essences cant be blocked ye

[mental nymph]

Also Steve,you're the one who gave me that frenzy base glove no?

[tranquil sedge]

ya

[mental nymph]

Its blessed

I've elevated vaal first try

Made gloves ,T1 speed after 2nd reforge

No life

35 divs in pocket

[tranquil sedge]

gz

[tranquil sedge]

but smh

settle af

[mental nymph]

I do plan to make another one

I just need to elevate vaal then awakener

Maybe I'll try funny beast lock imprint to try hitting T1 life

[dusty mesa]

Wait I thought you couldn’t play this league

[tranquil sedge]

initially didn't

started 2 weeks late after ended up being able to 😄

[dusty mesa]

Hell yea

What build?

[tranquil sedge]

flicker gladiator
msoz jugg
spectral throw deadeye

[dusty mesa]

Oh so you’ve been grinding

[tranquil sedge]

🙂

[dusty mesa]

I played SA ballistas, EoW mana mines, Cold Snap of power, and now I’m playing TS

I’m thinking about Vaal LS though

[tranquil sedge]

mm ts is noted for a future league at some point

[elder ruin]

can i snapshot buffs with rf? Or can you not snapshot buffs with skills that dont have a duration?

[dusty mesa]

Cold convert TS is still solid, and idk why but I decided to do Omni again. I could probably get way more damage out of Heatshiver and some other ammy

[tranquil sedge]

cold convert and omni aren't mutually exclusive ye

but if omni sounds fun just do that

[dusty mesa]

Yea I’m cold convert Omni rn

But I kinda want to be cold convert non-Omni

I could be way tankier and get free damage I think. Just haven’t pob’d it yet

[tranquil sedge]

just depends on hm motivation u got

if u feel like doing it or nah

[dusty mesa]

Ye

I think I just make a 5th build at this point

[sleek barn]

y'all have a lot of patience to do acts like 4 times

i can only do it max 3 times a league

then the burnout hits

[elfin shale]

How much life do white mobs usually have

[haughty dirge]

Campaign giga fast with twinked items

[elfin shale]

actually how bad can vitality on enemies really be

[sleek barn]

not bad at all

it'd be a problem if it were percentage based

[sleek barn]

i do but like its still preferable not to do it again

[elfin shale]

realizing i have nothing to grab with this 15% reservation efficiency lol

Guess ill do wrath

[sleek barn]

but then they'll do more lightning damage

[elfin shale]

truuuue

[sleek barn]

given you're using the runegraft

[elfin shale]

i will simply not do anything with my mana

[sleek barn]

based

true archmages love their mana like their firstborn child

[elfin shale]

The crit chance on precision actually gives me like 8% i might just do that lmao

[sleek barn]

yah that should be fine

a little bad for the crit roll you get on maps

but i suppose you can get crit immunity

[elfin shale]

Actually maybe i go with a purity

granted itd only be one element

[sleek barn]

pof sublime login

[elfin shale]

ggg let me blasphemy assassin's mark pls

Haste is kind of terrifying on enemies right

[hard cliff]

yes lol

[sleek barn]

the tech for that runegraft is disciple + more chaos damage if enemies have energy shield mastery

oooor purities + resistance inversion

thats ab it

[elfin shale]

yeah but also 15% reservation efficiency

Shrug ill just pick up something else

Runegraft of The Fortress so nice til you play a statstacker

[sleek barn]

yooo rathpith stormbind

actually do channeling skills even work with rathpith

[elfin shale]

no lol

Oh shit wait its not non-channelling hold on

[dusty mesa]

Four of my builds are in the same two characters

[elder ruin]

how many prefixes can a sceptre have?

[tranquil sedge]

3

same as any other normal item

[elfin shale]

Rathpith Foulborn Ghostwrithe Eblade kinda bangs

[elder ruin]

then what the hell is this thing

[elfin shale]

multimod

[sleek barn]

fair i have considered rerolling many times

[elfin shale]

Phys damage and stun threshhold are one mod, mana and spell damage are one mod

[tranquil sedge]

two of those are hybrid prefixes

that have 2 lines per prefix

[elder ruin]

ooooh sorry i get it now, thanks!!

[sleek barn]

note the 2 p4s and 2 p5s

those are the hybrids

this is not always the case but it lays out nicely here

[elder ruin]

and they also share the smae name i just noticed

[sleek barn]

yep

[elder ruin]

both warlocks and both crusaders

[dusty mesa]

Also, just remember that every item can have 3 prefixes, 3 suffixes with note of a few exceptions with heist jewelry

[sleek barn]

i think thats a popular option this league

[sleek barn]

nuh uh

every rare item

[dusty mesa]

That’s why I said “can”

[elfin shale]

Just not on stormbind lol

[sleek barn]

nuh uh

flasks

and jewels

[dusty mesa]

Fair enough

You got me there

[sleek barn]

probably arc or something

i don't really play life stackers although i intend to one day

[elfin shale]

Dan how do i squeeze out 3k more phys maxhit
https://pobb.in/Rqey6RhHmOZc

Out of my fucking ass

[main bison]

hi is this working with rf? i tried it but rf damage didn't increased

[elfin shale]

oh probably just better gear lol

[sleek barn]

so you already know the answer

[crystal talon]

Corrupted maps can have 4 of each bozo

[elfin shale]

forgot i only had t4 mods

[dusty mesa]

Next league:

“You can now have rare flasks, Mageblood is unchanged”

[elfin shale]

The first line doesnt affect DoTs

[sleek barn]

gain as extra doesn't apply to dots

[main bison]

thanks guys

[elfin shale]

Traitor stocks and Tides of Time stocks ++++++++++

[dusty mesa]

In my defense I was referring to gear. I still ended up being wrong

[dusty mesa]

PF gaming

[sleek barn]

if flasks go rare i want more diverse modifiers

although then mb gets buffed again

[crystal talon]

A map is an item

[sleek barn]

lose lose situation

put aspd back on flask suffix

raaah

[dusty mesa]

That’s why I said “MB is unchanged”

It applies to magic flasks currently

[sleek barn]

o

this is true

im down if you're down

[crystal talon]

I'd rope if I had to craft rare flasks

[elfin shale]

Dont you want to recomb fucking flasks?

[sleek barn]

can't be that bad

just like

alt spam + regal

then ex

[elfin shale]

Itd be as bad as rare jewels so bad

[dusty mesa]

Also it would just be PF league

90%

[sleek barn]

just take inspiration from poo2 and restrict us to 2 flask slots

[elfin shale]

dont

if i see charms one more time im leaving forever

[crystal talon]

People don't use adorned cause it is strong. They use it so they don't need to craft rare jewels

[wheat sinew]

dw mageblood is coming to poe2

[elfin shale]

Charms are permanently active

[wheat sinew]

nah it's divinable

xd

[sleek barn]

what about crafting those synthesized corrupted magic jewels

[wheat sinew]

stonks

[sleek barn]

those are pretty bad

[elfin shale]

Gives you the effects of 3 specific charms permanently

[elfin shale]

At least you can engram them or whatever its called

[crystal talon]

Yeer I'm just memeing

[sleek barn]

wtf is engram

[elfin shale]

thats not what its called

[wheat sinew]

[elfin shale]

Eternal Orb

[crystal talon]

Imprint

[elfin shale]

thats it

[sleek barn]

o

smh

im revoking your poe privileges

[elfin shale]

thats okay

[sleek barn]

eternal orb stays in standard anyways

[crystal talon]

Delete beast imprint

[sleek barn]

move beast imprint to fossil

stonk

[elfin shale]

decent ubers dps

[sleek barn]

actually no i don't want to do delve

[sleek barn]

drop the pob

[elfin shale]

its fake im sorry

[sleek barn]

wtf

where does this come from

[elfin shale]

PoB assumes Stormbind places and detonates 9 runes 10 times a second

it is not nearly that fast lmao

it places 10 runes a second and charges 9 in like 0.45 seconds

[silent leaf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1126928613103644762/1235574806217359423/speed.gif

[livid quarry]

did someone use a mirror of kalandra?

[split palm]

😭

yes

[karmic gust]

t1 chaos res

[pulsar ice]

aintnoway

[silent leaf]

Regret is always the best teacher

[livid quarry]

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/sm7QVkT.png

does this suffix exist

i cant find it on trade

https://i.imgur.com/cQxjF8I.png

[pulsar ice]

definitely does

oh wait, no

only as elder influence

[cold sable]

but it says delve

https://i.imgur.com/KgZbbrd.png

elder has a diff one ?

or is it the same one somehow

[pulsar ice]

yeah there are a bunch of delve affixes that are not droppable anymore that are still in poedb

[cold sable]

gg

[pulsar ice]

like chance to defend with 200% of armour on amulets

craft of exile usually has the correct droppable affixes

so you can look there

[cold sable]

how do i get the uhh

+1 to level of socketed intelligence gem

suffix

huh

its not in here

https://i.imgur.com/eb6hajI.png

i want the boots im making to have +1 lvl of str/int gems

[pulsar ice]

maybe recombinators with faceted fossil I'm not sure

[karmic gust]

you are def not recombing that

just faceted + life and you unveil ms after pretty simple

[pulsar ice]

wait not recombinator, the resonators

I'm recomb brain broken

[karmic gust]

but also just do wep swap if that is for minion pact

doing the boots instead is kinda trash

[cold sable]

well

i want it on the boots cuz then i can buy a much better jiquanis

good jiquanis with spell lvl is rly pricy

idrk what else to put on the boots anwyasy

https://i.imgur.com/TvUaTjJ.png

like theres a random open suffix

fk it put on rarity

can i move modifiers from like influenced items to non influenced items and not make the items influenced

or like, could i move a elder suffix to the boots but have them have eldrich implicits still

idk if thats possible or not with recomb

[karmic gust]

no

influence is part of the base

[cold sable]

kk

https://i.imgur.com/lrSP1AX.png

does this one also not exist

hmm

i think i will just put 'cannot be poisioned' on them

its that or attributes

[pale hull]

Are we there yet, can’t wait, 2 more wks 😕

Oh wrong chat, sorry

[hard cliff]

[mental nymph]

[rancid seal]

i beat the game boys 7K hp 7.5M dps

abit squishy

[livid quarry]

does LA arrow have at least 4x dmg one attack if using tornado and nimis

the LA hits twice with return and the tornado has aoe splash from getting hit by LA

[karmic gust]

if you dont miss sure

[unique silo]

wait cyclone might be better than thi bs holy lightning

[karmic gust]

the tornado needs to be between you and enemy, and with nimis and random projs on top + tornado moving randomly in circle around stuff

pretty hard to achieve consistently :d

[rancid seal]

cyclone coc is amazing

any skilled boy with Cocs i am noob girl i want opinion Option 1 or Option 2 , i am noob i just did that nightmare map with option 1 but i dunno i felt worried coz map didnt have like 300% extra ele on 300% extra ele i die almost always at 7k

[mental nymph]

#1┃build-planning

[limpid prairie]

this a screenshot from discord

bet there is a thread open

[mental nymph]

I see

[limpid prairie]

i dont

[rancid seal]

it is question

option 1 or 2

it is like fliping a coin

you say what u like you see most important data life damage and stuff

[limpid prairie]

why are you hiding the PoBs?

[rancid seal]

what u mean

[limpid prairie]

we dont have the links so its hard to examine

[rancid seal]

coz it was from my guild here https://pobb.in/V5JELUzhhFpG this my squishy

https://pobb.in/zkP3tFvZ-dBK my more tanky but rip dps

[unique silo]

thank you

[rancid seal]

note as i repeat i am noob

so i try to decide what is more forgiving more defence but reduced dps twice

or twice more dps

[mental nymph]

I would go with option 1

[rancid seal]

both are kinda tanky overall

[mental nymph]

But that's a personal opinion

[rancid seal]

okay thanks

well i ask your opinion not mine 😛

my opinion is i like both and i cant decide 🙁

i switched over 100 times

i feel like mentally damaged person i wanna stick with 1 😛

[unique silo]

its all good xd. noob here as well. just trying other channeling skills. holy lightning is alright but it doesnt look cool. incinerate looks amazing bt dmg is buns

[nocturne dove]

Does champ‘s Fortitude set other Party members Fortify Stacks to the same max as the champ or will it be capped at 20?

[dusty mesa]

I also think think that if you get actual hybrid bases for all of them, you'll be tankier but I'd have to mess with the pob and can't atm

[rancid seal]

i always hated channel skills like incinerate so i used to cheat the stand still thing with totems

do you do totems too ?

[unique silo]

wait totems work? which one u reckon i should try?

https://pobb.in/BiRsxHIsmRPn if i could keep the same dps from holy but change into a different skill id be happy

[dusty mesa]

totems tend to work better than than self cast for sure

but if you actually enjoy self casting channeling skills, more power to you

[hard cliff]

this is a cool build

[unique silo]

ill def try now

[rancid seal]

i think easiest way to do more dps atleast what i used was Totems 6link setup and staff 6link setup for myself

to double the actual damage

[unique silo]

thanks. lemme send the original build. i lost like 90% of the dmg but idc

[sleek barn]

you may want more ES as a CI build

[dusty mesa]

I do have a question on why grace of the goddess is being used here because the main value of it is +number of wisps

[sleek barn]

i would not play CI with less than 6k ES

[sleek barn]

the main value now is phys as extra

as seen by both cast on ward break and bv

[unique silo]

@hard cliff

[dusty mesa]

oh I guess I missed that

[sleek barn]

you're right though, its supposed to be the +1 to wisp

but poe players advert expectations

[hard cliff]

that's so cool

you published your own guide

[unique silo]

lmao not me bud, its someone else

[dusty mesa]

low key if he throws on Aegis and like melding/ToH

probably solid

[hard cliff]

humble king

@unique silo

your energy shield is awful lol

you gotta get at least 6k like someone else says

but this looks good

[unique silo]

yea it sucks xd. i didnt hv the patience to get exact gear thats why i have elegant hubris on

[hard cliff]

if you don't need that min power charge on shield you can get a lot more survivability by upgrading it

[dusty mesa]

honestly Supreme Ostentation, block chance tattoos, and ES tattoos could be clutch

too bad block chance tats are usually super expensive

[unique silo]

yea tbh this build was an experiement which i ended up loving. the tattoos i have on are for a golem build i was playing

[unique silo]

supreme is this a jewel?

[sleek barn]

a keystone from elegant hubris

specifically Caspiro

[dusty mesa]

I think you already have it allocated but I can't check at work

[unique silo]

yea bud i have it on. good thing someone mentioned this last week and i noted it

[dusty mesa]

but yea that's really bad if you aren't using tattoos though

tats make it solid

you can turn all your strength nodes into block chance, and then turn your int nodes into ES

[unique silo]

ohhhhh i get it now lmao xd

[sleek barn]

im confused as to why you're using supreme ostentation to begin with

[dusty mesa]

yea the way you're using it rn is wrong

[sleek barn]

the only attribute you're really missing is dexterity

[unique silo]

i have the golem build saved anyway. lemme fix my es. ill follow ur strength and int advice

[sleek barn]

which can just be a few suffixes

[dusty mesa]

its more cost effective to just solve Dex

[sleek barn]

i mean you can still use it, just in tandem with some of the nodes it can give

like increased spell damage

i think 80%

or 12% MRE

[unique silo]

so block chance and es yea?

[sleek barn]

if you have the money lol

[dusty mesa]

I'd recommend it, but its pricey yea

[sleek barn]

ideally you remove it entirely

[dusty mesa]

then you free up a flask slot too

yea if you can cap block chance without tats and get ES clusters, its better

but honestly just better ES bases

but also if you get Aegis for your shield, you'll be a good bit tankier

[unique silo]

alright working on it now

[rancid seal]

you can use also Glacing Blows if you lack block chance

and have shield with es or hp recover in your case es

[sleek barn]

hes pathing down left side of tree block shouldn't be much of a problem

[dusty mesa]

well idk if I'd take glancing without a good ES increase

[rancid seal]

i use foul sunderer 620 es on block but i got armor so i can use aurora aegis if i want too you lack armor so you need sunderer with flat 620 es

[sleek barn]

also if you were to coninue to use Elegant Hubris you can get 12% attack/spell block notables

i think its 12

yah

i remember you being a newer player, so you can refer to https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1228412901027741786 for additional resources

[unique silo]

thank you 🫡

[mental nymph]

[dusty mesa]

I honestly think anointing As the Mountain is solid too

so you don't have to path all the way to the bottom

[hard cliff]

probably

you can also leap it but I don't think he has the jewel sockets to spare

or whatever it's called

allocating around blood magic

[pseudo scroll]

Can someone help me find the trigger craft in refinery lmfao

[dusty mesa]

if he gets ride of elegant hubris he could

[pseudo scroll]

im losing my mind

[hard cliff]

no I mean using that jewel to get as the mountain nodes

[dusty mesa]

yea there are a decent amount of options for sure

[mental nymph]

Notloc are you sure that's the build you want to pick

Or is your budget low?

[dusty mesa]

but one of the options is playing hiero and using totems lol

[dusty mesa]

huh

[mental nymph]

I'm saying think about it well

Before you get into it

[dusty mesa]

that's not the build Im gonna play, I was helping him

lol

[sleek barn]

this is onlinedimple's build

[mental nymph]

Ah kek

I see i see

[sleek barn]

i mean you can offer them advice too

im not sure if "think about it well" is good advice though

[dusty mesa]

I have an issue with CI builds where I default to aegis/melding of the flesh and call it a day for defenses

[last mesa]

hey guys since i've not really done any higher end(for me) builds yet, what would you recommend this league,bv or wardloop?

[cobalt blade]

aegis bad embrace % of es on block

[mental nymph]

Think about it as in don't go for it

[cobalt blade]

if you have atleast 1-2 mirrors wardloop should be a vibe

[sleek barn]

they happen to be knee deep into it already if im not mistaken

[dusty mesa]

yea I'm pretty sure aegis is just cheaper

[cobalt blade]

assuming you mean the current ward break stuff

[last mesa]

500d unfortunately

[cobalt blade]

yuh it should also just be significantly worse if you can get to atleast 10k es lol

[dusty mesa]

yea if they weren't new, my suggestion would just be "reroll hiero and play it on totems" lol

[cobalt blade]

ah yeah its gonna feel a bit too scuffed that low

[last mesa]

i've tank and dps,(not on the same build though)

lmao

[cobalt blade]

the useable jewels are uh pricy

[scarlet horizon]

Any tips on gambling

[last mesa]

ah rip

[scarlet horizon]

How to win as a gambler?

[gritty epoch]

Be lucky

[sleek barn]

what tips are needed

[dusty mesa]

yea but that guy had 3.5k ES lol

[sleek barn]

spend your money

[rancid seal]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[sleek barn]

money go bye bye

[cobalt blade]

99% of gamblers quit before they hit big so never quit

[cobalt blade]

how the fuck do you get es that low

[rancid seal]

it is Glasscannon

[dusty mesa]

he's new

[cobalt blade]

fair

still how tf

[nocturne thistle]

If there was a surefire way to win with gambling then it wouldn't be a gamble.

[rancid seal]

my fat hp builds if i go 100% dps

i am 3.8K hp

🙂

[dusty mesa]

https://pobb.in/BiRsxHIsmRPn here's his pob he shared

[split maple]

please lady your build is neither tanky nor dps

let folks fix that pob

[frigid wedge]

oh shes back

[gritty epoch]

3.8k es - bad build
3.8k hp - strong

[karmic gust]

even 3.8k hp is pretty bad

[dusty mesa]

my current TS build is 3.5

[mental nymph]

[dusty mesa]

MB and everything

[karmic gust]

my point stands

:p

[rancid seal]

Meanies 😖

[frigid wedge]

3.8k is decent for this bit of tree

[dusty mesa]

18k ehp with prog btw

[split maple]

mb on bow build

[cobalt blade]

That sure do be a set of items

[cobalt blade]

so true

[frigid wedge]

was this doomgiver

[dusty mesa]

I refuse to use HH this time

[mental nymph]

HH is good tho

[last mesa]

Is mb bad on bows?

[mental nymph]

For map clear

[dusty mesa]

Yea I just always get HH

I wanted to use MB

its bad build

[mental nymph]

Then swap to something else

[dusty mesa]

Im literally using Omni

[mental nymph]

For Boss

[split maple]

2x inspired learning at least?

[dusty mesa]

lol

[cobalt blade]

4x inspired learning

[dusty mesa]

nah I just put together something for omni because it had been awhile since I used omni

literally if I stop using omni, I can get real gear

[split maple]

omni good^tm

just idk how to clear maps without hh on that kinda build

[dusty mesa]

I mean MB honestly is still zoomy

I have silver and qs flask with inc effect

[split maple]

yea but hh is defence and dmg

[dusty mesa]

oh yea for sure

[frigid wedge]

mine now

[dusty mesa]

I just wanted to goof around. I'm already considering play vaal LS

[split maple]

oh yea

why not accel on ts

that should feel good

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/bAqJF.gif

[dusty mesa]

honestly the real answer is that I had MB leftover and not Accel money left over

[split palm]

belt

[split maple]

fair

[full fossil]

silly its a shoe not a belt

[dusty mesa]

I just came back to poe again

[frigid wedge]

i gotta make that shi work after i finish acts etc

[dusty mesa]

I played first two weeks and stopped

and I just decided I wanted to mess around with my leftover money

[frigid wedge]

ooh maybe i v vaal some annies

[full fossil]

isnt that the eye cancer skill some valdo farmers use for some fuck ass reason?

[frigid wedge]

i need an izaro deletor

u put cascade on this and get 11 overlaps or smth

[full fossil]

literally anything with high hit dmg lol

and you dont get flashbanged with each attack

😭

[mental nymph]

[split maple]

even without overlaps flat on that is kinda unethical

[frigid wedge]

but i can put minion pact on it!

[dusty mesa]

honestly I can probably get vaal LS going for cheap

I'd probably want echoing belt, but I can settle for MB for a cheaper setup

[full fossil]

you can also put minion pact on bv and kill izaro and never die with glad xd

[dusty mesa]

whats the easiest way to mitigate vaal temptation

[frigid wedge]

champ

[frigid wedge]

dont

:3

eventually ill revisit my vls

but uh

convert it to chaos

and resist

[full fossil]

glad better for getting block with basically no tree tho iirc?

[frigid wedge]

with pdr to boot

[full fossil]

since you just get like 50% block free

i think?

[nova lion]

those new belts are one of the best additions this league - give so many interesting options
like I tried to make exsang miner on glad with diamond belt, and thought it will be a meme build, but it turned out to be quite decent at the end O_o

[dusty mesa]

is the answer just doppel?

[frigid wedge]

they are 100% being removed

[full fossil]

oh you're going banner man?

[dusty mesa]

I actually could just take doppel

[frigid wedge]

doppel+pdr+glorious vanity+4 hunter bbd

[nova lion]

nooooooo..... !!!

[whole bluff]

Is it that bad that HH and MB have competition?

Maybe nerf double OP shrine, but aren't those ridiculously rare anyway?

[frigid wedge]

act 6 mud flats are so annoying

[dusty mesa]

oh yea I guess Automaton Study nodes exist

[frigid wedge]

echoing and accel are fuckin silly

[dusty mesa]

Id expect echoing to potentially get removed

idk if accel will

I think its good competition

[split maple]

they just gonna nerf shrines again

[full fossil]

tbh banner build looks funny but i dont really understand how it actually works, like i know you just build aload of max valor and somehow insta gain your max but dunno how your gonna do dmg and stuff on the build

[split maple]

like they did before league

[whole bluff]

Echoing does seem silly. Idr what acceleration numbers were

[frigid wedge]

u walk out the area and then u get most of it back for free and force it up with warcry

[split maple]

replenishing didnt deserve to get dedged preleague for the belt :/

[full fossil]

imagine if you could get echo + accel on a belt

😂

easy 1000 mirror belt

[frigid wedge]

echo is 100% more attack and cast speed, accel is 50% action speed

[whole bluff]

Ah

[frigid wedge]

no one would ever hit to begin with

[full fossil]

streamers would

🙂

[frigid wedge]

nah bc that shit would be rare as fuck

[full fossil]

nah man the streamer client

its real trust

[nova lion]

they could add a mod to belts like xx% efficiency of shrine buffs to cap those, but do you think they'll go their usual way to nuke the shrines to the ground?

[whole bluff]

For the record, streamers use the same client. The advantages are implemented server side

[split maple]

they already did some preleague

so like if they just touch a tad echo,accel,res shrines

its already balancewise ok

just sucks for shrines :&

[hard cliff]

the belts are gonna get very expensive next league if not nerfed

[whole bluff]

They could nuke some shrines and add an atlas passive tree mod to get "greater echoing shrine", which is basically just unnerfed echoing shrine 🙃

Etc

[hard cliff]

good idea

[whole bluff]

Rip shrines tho

[frigid wedge]

i realise ive been using the same axe since like act 3

[nova lion]

I think they'll buff those belts/shrines like an abyss the last time... oh, wait, never mind :]

[split palm]

new char?

[frigid wedge]

ye

we up

[tacit crow]

YOOOO PARTY PEOPLE

[whole bluff]

Hmm. I got some lvl 78 templar, and 11d. I could easily make shock nova of procession with a bad mageblood. I just don't know if there's anything I wanna do in poe atm

[frigid wedge]

fisting time

[sleek barn]

hell yeah

with crushing fist i hope

[sleek barn]

sunderboi mentioned

are you utilizing the hydrosphere tech

i remember Blazar preaching it

[frigid wedge]

?

[sleek barn]

something something hitting hydrosphere creates another shockwave

[whole bluff]

Sunder being a slam, it's slow enough to use hydrosphere I guess

[frigid wedge]

right

[normal hedge]

bmc autoex hydro hydro

[frigid wedge]

yes

[sleek barn]

still faster than poo2 attack time

[whole bluff]

How do you make mirages fun?

Some specific map and league mechanic?

[cobalt blade]

im ngl id use that once and alt f4

[sleek barn]

boxes

uh

thats ab it

[whole bluff]

Rip

[sleek barn]

its fun when my non-soul eater build gets the soul eater wish

i tried volatile vaal farming and it got stale real fast

and i didn't even drop one

[frigid wedge]

in phrecia my cons path aps was so bad that literally just attacking would line up with my fist of war

[sleek barn]

surely with such a build up you one shot ubers

[nova lion]

I did operative boxes rush on haunted mansion, and harvest yellow juice T3 only rush on atoll. Both decent strats in case of cost/revenue ratio...

[cobalt blade]

What in the fucketh

[sleek barn]

oh yeah i forgot ab harvest

[frigid wedge]

tbf i also wasnt bypassing cooldown

[cobalt blade]

unplayable

but slightly more fair

[frigid wedge]

nah wahts unplayable is that blazar doesnt take fuckin unwavering stance for 1 point so that he can actually slam

[wild bridge]

what do i do with 40 div

[frigid wedge]

waste it on impractical choices

:D

put it into ur build tho

[wild bridge]

my build is so boring

im just farming juiced boxes with rf

idk wat to do now

[normal hedge]

now you farm more

[nova lion]

pity I finished the league some time ago as those ratios rn just beg us to do it

[frigid wedge]

if u dont like rf theres 3 builds it swaps to well rn

[normal hedge]

and make a better build

[grim pivot]

Farm divs till you can switch

[wild bridge]

what can i switch to

from this character?

[limpid prairie]

Chieftan?
Rage vortex berserker with ward

[frigid wedge]

fulcrum chieftain
cast when stunned
minion pact blade vortex (kinda expensive)

[frigid wedge]

...

[limpid prairie]

that build is not mine!

so it might be kinda decent

[wild bridge]

what a bout armour stacker

is that too dank

[normal hedge]

no

[grim pivot]

and anythng else off your ascendency too so jug/zerker are options

[frigid wedge]

with 40d?

[normal hedge]

just no

even with a mirror it gonna feel bad

[wild bridge]

how much divs is a mirror again

[normal hedge]

1200

and something

[cobalt blade]

with a mirror it feeling bad means u fucked up somewhere

[wild bridge]

i could get that in a weekend lowkey

[cobalt blade]

its not going to be efficient as a build at a mirror but it will still feel good

[last mesa]

share the strat,king

[split palm]

Hi Naca

[normal hedge]

nah it feels worse than any hh build

[cobalt blade]

hiiii :3

[cobalt blade]

loud incorrect buzzer D:

[frigid wedge]

the only armoustacker ill ever consider low budget is shield crush champ

[cobalt blade]

you arent dealing with shroudwalker it feels infinitely better

[normal hedge]

shroudwalker is a buff

[wild bridge]

ok so igo minion pact bvv chief ?

how many div is that

[sleek barn]

no

minion pact is 1.5mir

[frigid wedge]

what

[wild bridge]

rly

[sleek barn]

or more

[split palm]

no

[frigid wedge]

99% of budget for minion pact is defenses

[split palm]

you can get a bad one for way cheaper

[gritty epoch]

U just need the support gem no?

[frigid wedge]

u can get the dps online for the price of minion pact support

kek

[split palm]

but a VERY good mp bv is gonna be pricy

[sleek barn]

o

shit i thinking of ward break

again

it plagues my mind

[split palm]

timeless alone is like what

[cobalt blade]

You could probably get minion pact going for 10-20d

[split palm]

half a mirror at minimum for a second best one?

[wild bridge]

how many divs would a bad bv farm per hr

[cobalt blade]

it will suck ass defensively but technically be playable

[wild bridge]

more than my rf for sure

[sleek barn]

idk

[livid quarry]

the Lightning Conversion Aura – Gain as Extra: 100% of Physical Damage gained as extra Lightning Damage; increased chance to Shock is to itself or also me

[sleek barn]

like 30-40

[livid quarry]

seems too op but it says aura

[sleek barn]

depends on the strat

[karmic gust]

just equip 3 div HH and you can farm whatevevr you want

even on shit BV

[sleek barn]

you can't really associate the strat with the build

[split palm]

depends what you do xd

[sleek barn]

unless its specific like CWS and sims

[frigid wedge]

the fastest mapper u can pivot to is fulcrum

[split palm]

Ugh dizzy >.<

[wild bridge]

that sounds like scrutum

[sleek barn]

fulcrum is rf 2

[cobalt blade]

https://youtu.be/Y_OF9ORoMo0

[wild bridge]

but it has damage ?

[frigid wedge]

u ignite urself, take no ignite dmg, run as fast as u want and everything dies

[cobalt blade]

highly recommend this channel for anything remotely spectre related

[wild bridge]

can it kill bosses

[frigid wedge]

who needs damage when you have clear efficiency

no

[livid quarry]

aura too small anyway

[sleek barn]

i mean if you're talkin div per hour you need to be specialized

either be good at clear or one shot ubers

[cobalt blade]

Yuh

[sleek barn]

unless you're doing breach

then you still need some single target

woe is me vruun

[frigid wedge]

nah

[cobalt blade]

your st is explode

[frigid wedge]

^

[cobalt blade]

it dot caps and prolifs

on fulcrum

[wild bridge]

but bv is faster

no?

[mental nymph]

[sleek barn]

oh i see

i just have shit explode

[frigid wedge]

no

[sleek barn]

do you get reverse chill with fulcrum

then you go zoom

[frigid wedge]

fulcrum is one of the fastest available mappers that wont give you an aneurism

[frigid wedge]

if u want, its not hard to add

[wild bridge]

lmao what gives u aneurism?

[frigid wedge]

u just grab winterweave and some cold convert for ur phys explode

[frigid wedge]

shit like this gives you an aneurism

[frigid wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AtoitpJxRw

[wild bridge]

HOLY

i need that

[frigid wedge]

the cold snap? too bad

[wild bridge]

is it 2500 mirrors

[frigid wedge]

the start of that video also has

echoing shrine active, which is not part of the actual character

[wild bridge]

i mean ,, whasts the point after u get mirrors

[frigid wedge]

to have fun

if having them means theres no point

then whats the point in getting them

[sleek barn]

don't get swallowed by div per hour mentality

or do

if thats how you have fun

[wild bridge]

do i have fun or a dopamine addictrion

[frigid wedge]

its a game

[sleek barn]

thats up for you to decide

[frigid wedge]

ur here to have fun

if its not fun

u shouldnt be playing it

[limpid prairie]

I like to play my builds when they work its satisfactory to see everything work

the point is to walk through the map with only your mouse and hearing void explosion sounds

[wild bridge]

idk it looks fun

but maybe for some time

[sleek barn]

i eventually chase challenges but every time i look at the masters missives challenge i quit

[wild bridge]

before it gets old

maybe thats when u wait for next leauge ? idk its my first

[sleek barn]

sure

avoid burnout

common issue for poe players

[limpid prairie]

I did beasts for that one and it was pretty practical to get crafting material

[sleek barn]

play something else

i played the free trial of v rising the other day and it wasn't too bad

gf didn't like it much

[wild bridge]

so this is the scrutum guide ?

[cobalt gale]

my juggernaut is lvl 67

[frigid wedge]

its a build for it to show you, if its good u can try it out, i know the guy that made it

well im in his discord and i like to talk a lot

[heavy orchid]

I love @obtuse wedge

[wild bridge]

wait do i get to fly

or is that a mtx

[frigid wedge]

mtx

[wild bridge]

gg

[heavy orchid]

You get to fly like an eagle to the sea

[frigid wedge]

high movement speed looks weird when ur not

oh

oh no

i realise im going for movement speed leaderboard and im gonna have fuckin tippy tappies

xD

[cobalt blade]

to get more mirrors to spend more mirrors to get more mirrors faster

[sleek barn]

so true

and then you just mirror your mirror!

[wild bridge]

but at some point theres gotta be diminishing retuns onthe mirror farming no?

or do u eventually farm 1 mirror per hr

[nova lion]

do you mean old masters?
I agree, completely unnecessary in today's game
however those are relatively fast to do, just niko and alva for me, in case of alva all what is needed is to zoom to and kill any architect then quit without bothering with anything else

[mental nymph]

Perfecting your build or making a new one

[sleek barn]

you will not farm 1 mirror per hour

you will be profit crafting 1 mirror per hour

[grim pivot]

Its still a game. Dont overthink it

[sleek barn]

or flipping

idk if flipping gets to that rate

but that gotta be the most boring of the ways

[cold sable]

will it let you use int essence on an item with fractured int

im assuming not right

[sleek barn]

they're from the same mod group so no

[limpid prairie]

double int armour xd

[cold sable]

also

how does poision work in this game

is there a lot of sources of poision

[grim pivot]

pathfinder

[cobalt blade]

Theres a map mod for it its the only dangerous source really

[split maple]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Poison

[sleek barn]

chaos and physical damage can poison unless otherwise stated

other than that its a stacking dot with individual duration

[frigid wedge]

6 more level

[limpid prairie]

By default you can poison with phys and chaos but there are lots of fun ways to by pass it
Votaxic rift

[frigid wedge]

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/74nh3I0.png

isnt there also a corrupted ring mod

[split maple]

yea

[limpid prairie]

you can tattoo poison avoid iirc
abyss jewels
evasion mastery

[cold sable]

basically what im asking is

is it worth to get poisin immunity

[frigid wedge]

most wiki pages have a big ass list of related modifiers at the bottom

[frigid wedge]

nah

[split maple]

yes if you have chaos res > 0% you dont need to care

[sleek barn]

agree

[limpid prairie]

Or if you are using leathe shade maybe

[cold sable]

hmm

[split maple]

take minor pantheon if rly worried

but i never felt need to do that

[elder ruin]

Is it normal for my RF dps to not change when i equip or unequip swift affliction?

[split maple]

or wait for it nameless bloodline gives immune too

[cold sable]

if i get posion immunity, does that mean i dont need chaos res

[split maple]

do you have lifetap

[cold sable]

or like as much of it

[split maple]

no

chaos dmg is present in game

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/hDWOeHU.png

[split maple]

if granted rare

[elder ruin]

no does it need it?

[cold sable]

cuz like wat last suffix should i get

[bleak quiver]

lifetap adds a duration tag to the skill

rf dsnt have one w.o it, so swift affliction cant support it

[split maple]

https://pohx.net/faq/

[elder ruin]

Oooh i get it, thanks!!

[elder ruin]

Oh thanks alot guys, have a great day

[frigid wedge]

aight i think im full uptime on 1 banner

[limpid prairie]

CDR?

oh you could slam tailwind

[cobalt blade]

cdr kinda useless

[dusty mesa]

honestly is it better to go lvl 21 RF or add lvl 1 lifetap to RF

[cobalt blade]

if its ward break

Since you get a billion cdr from the support

[short prairie]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[frigid wedge]

ward shatter builds want it actually, cast on ward break dont tho

[cobalt blade]

(assuming its not ward shatter)

[split maple]

rf dmg doesnt scale by levels

[cobalt blade]

Ye i think vyxi wasn't shatter

[split maple]

aoe and more spell dmg buff does

but rf doesnt benefit from spell dmg

[dusty mesa]

ah

[split maple]

so if you main it its useless beyond big fat circle

[limpid prairie]

Oh i know! what if they get avoid shock

for easy ailment immune

[frigid wedge]

every time i see the container of sins i think about my butt

[dusty mesa]

I wouldn't mind giving RF a shot one of these days

[short prairie]

No

Stop

🛑

[sleek barn]

i support RF

[split maple]

Its rly fun build if you don't expect it to do stuff it's bad at

[short prairie]

If you are already farming Ubers don’t RF

[cobalt blade]

go all in on rf

[split maple]

Which granted is everything except harbs and stacked decks

[cobalt blade]

Multi mirror scion

[short prairie]

RF is league starter

[cobalt blade]

[bleak quiver]

everyone needs to play rf once to have unrestricted fun

[dusty mesa]

yea that's what I meant lmao

[frigid wedge]

kek

nah

[dusty mesa]

my next build is Vaal LS I think

[cobalt blade]

i think everyone should try minmaxed scion rf atleast once personally

[sleek barn]

hear me out you can play infernal legion holy strike and have the same experience

if not better

[nova lion]

there is, but usually it's not worth it to get items specifically for that mod, the only case is when you search for min-max upgrade to one of the core items for your build and it just happens to have that mod and affordable price ;]

[sleek barn]

w kikazaru

soul mantle my beloved

[dusty mesa]

harbs? Its been ages since I heard that name

[split maple]

Rf good

[cobalt blade]

The only time id say its 100% worth getting poison immune/unaffect is dissolution lmao

[sleek barn]

esm lives in the past

[bleak quiver]

yeah, rf does fucking everything well now lol

[cobalt blade]

Loud incorrect buzzer D:

[mental nymph]

Sheesh

[cobalt blade]

Scion rf dot caps with fullscreen aoe

[wild bridge]

is there a way to respec all my points at once with regrets?

[sleek barn]

i meant the league start RF

[cobalt blade]

(not necessarily at the same time)

[wild bridge]

or i have to click one by one

[short prairie]

Still a league starter

[sleek barn]

that infernal legion ain't hitting high budget rf lmao

[cobalt blade]

well league start rf mid so fair

[nova lion]

kika is usually the first item I buy for any league starter, sometimes even during the campaign if lucky with few chaos drops - that regen is OP during the campaign and early maps ;]

[short prairie]

Compared to the op builds scion RF is like meh

[cold sable]

meow

[sleek barn]

absolutely based

[bleak quiver]

its the ultimate build, does every content, league start, cheap, good to minmax, tanky, fast, can transition into many good builds, any dumbass can follow a guide for it

[sleek barn]

are you Pohx

you're selling the build to me

[cobalt blade]

Yeah but its fun

[dusty mesa]

what ascendancy are people playing vls on these days?

[cobalt blade]

meow :3

[dusty mesa]

slayer?

[sleek barn]

idk ask sans

[dusty mesa]

you have vls build?

[frigid wedge]

huh?

[short prairie]

Huh

[dusty mesa]

idk Dan told me to ask you

[frigid wedge]

sure, its shit rn because i was too aspirational and i didnt pob the idea

plus im lazy and got bored

[sleek barn]

idk any other person playing vls

so

[frigid wedge]

its manastacking deadeye

[dusty mesa]

if only I hadn't sold my mana gear rip

[sleek barn]

im sure slayer is still an option

[frigid wedge]

slayer is probably a better option tbh

[dusty mesa]

I mean I prefer deadeye, especially since I currently have one in the league

[true flower]

How do i stop my pc from howling whenever i open this game

[short prairie]

Slayer is too good, I’m alr bored of it

[dusty mesa]

but yea I want some thing that can tank too

[cobalt blade]

Unplug your fans

[short prairie]

Being op is an option

[frigid wedge]

just make it poison pf tbh man

[cobalt blade]

Alternatively better cooling

[bleak quiver]

turn it off right after

[dusty mesa]

poison LS

vinespike cordial, eater boots, hateforge, doppel, vaal temptation

[frigid wedge]

no vinespike

just chaos convert

with jewel lycia

[dusty mesa]

oh true

[frigid wedge]

the normal way you address pf poison builds basically fully mitigates out temptation anyway