1┃general

[short prairie]

The atlas changes were huge for ssf

Tree too

Kind of sick of breaches now tho

[opal ingot]

same

youd think for a map blasting atlas it would be fun

[pulsar ice]

I do breach fortresses now, kinda chill, way more fps

[opal ingot]

but its kind of exhausting wanting to minmax and squeezing the value of breaches

[vocal tinsel]

ig time to start rolling

[pulsar ice]

I need to roll some t16.5 too, my stash is getting full

[vocal tinsel]

I just had to fill up on them

only had like 8

[short prairie]

@vocal tinsel

ew what are these labs

10 rooms today?? jesus

[pulsar ice]

and golden key, bruh

[short prairie]

gg

that one guy keeping poelab alive

[bleak quiver]

every 20 map test i get more confused about what is affected by quant and whats not... tf is going on with mirage maps and astrolabes...

[short prairie]

also isnt deathbeam the only coder for poemaps??

i know it's inefficient cuz you are placing everything in order and organized

[bleak quiver]

also the claws/swords disappeared with less quant for some reason....

[short prairie]

this is how you play ssf

[hard cliff]

[short prairie]

this is like my bedroom

[hard cliff]

I hope not lol

[short prairie]

jk

[bleak quiver]

yeah, i try to keep my shit clean as much as possible

[hard cliff]

I just got a new dirty laundry bin it's helped a lot (random plastic storage box I lost the lid for)

[pulsar ice]

I played ssf only in poo2, didn't struggle as much with inventory space luckly

[short prairie]

IKEA has a ton of those

[normal hedge]

hoarder

[short prairie]

you never know when you will need some of those

[normal hedge]

(never)

https://klipy.com/gifs/mess-simpsons-1--k01KRW8D0WNTFMWMVKQT1TZDWK2

[short prairie]

Yes just like my es gears

[bleak quiver]

i ssf at least it has some use to hoard

since recombs are pretty good

[normal hedge]

hoard alts

[short prairie]

Imagine picking up every single alt

The individual ones, not just the 3x + stacks

[normal hedge]

worth it

make them tink as well

[bleak quiver]

also juust noticed i ran the maps with no amulet cuz i rage quit rolling focuseds and forgor...

[vocal tinsel]

aaanndd we done. all atleast 94 currency, 80 quant 30 packsize

[pulsar ice]

now vaal

[vocal tinsel]

uhhh nah

i could but it could also brick half of them

best of the batch

[normal hedge]

wait

wheres currency chisel split maps

[bleak quiver]

and deli orb

[vocal tinsel]

i dont currency chisel

[normal hedge]

:lmao:

[vocal tinsel]

I do need to do deli though

If I run a chisel its packsize

[pulsar ice]

I run rarity chisel

[vocal tinsel]

id prob run more chisels if this wasnt my current situation

[pulsar ice]

want an affordable 10||00||% loan?

[vocal tinsel]

no i dont need to spend on anything except for maps now

these should hopefully be enough to finish my last few challenges

[short prairie]

Are u a loan shark

What’s the apr

[clear summit]

Has anyone dropped a damnation?

[short prairie]

If you cope hard enough you will drop one

[opaque sphinx]

what i combo with breach besides beyond

one of these mechs keeps bugging out and infinitely spawning mobs

i think its breach but not sure

[clear summit]

What if I RMT hard enough?

[vocal tinsel]

I did on my first sanctuary map

[vocal tinsel]

then you get banned

[opaque sphinx]

damn lol coward trials are 60c ea now

[clear summit]

Rofl, plenty of people have been rmt for years and haven’t gotten banned unfortunately

[opaque sphinx]

generally they do actually

do u have proof that the ppl u think rmt'd actually did? or just guessing

[covert swan]

Rule 5. Do not encourage, promote, advertise, or discuss anything that violates the Path of Exile EULA or Discord ToS. This includes: real-money trading (RMT), use of gameplay macros in any capacity, or modification of game file structure.

[hazy kiln]

(also if you do have proof, please email it to [e-mail])

[opaque sphinx]

^

[livid quarry]

mirage still alive go go go

[opaque sphinx]

coward trials are very mid xp for a 60c map

[vocal tinsel]

i feel so proud

gave this newer rf player that made it to t16 maps for his first league a new large cluster and some easy currency farming advise and they seem super excited to try to get some more tomorrow

[opaque sphinx]

at least i can full afk them tho

ehh

2% for it

think i get more afking breach forts

[hard cliff]

Does payload add another movement instance to to the projectile and reset it for the purpose of close and far shot ?

[vocal tinsel]

im getting like 300m xp/hr at lvl 97 on t16.5 breach maps rn running unstables

super nice

[opaque sphinx]

yeh but im bored of breach and i was testing stuff i can full afk

[vocal tinsel]

fair

have you tried simu? idk if you can full afk or not but its alr xp and cheap

plus chances at voices for currency gain

[opaque sphinx]

yeh its too rippy

[vocal tinsel]

fair

[opaque sphinx]

this build isnt giga tank unfort

just decent dmg and aoe

blight and stuff is good cuz splodes chain off the first mob that comes into range

[vocal tinsel]

mines not either but I have enough damage to instakill everything even on w15 so it doesnt feel super rippy

[opaque sphinx]

i wish HoT had that deeps

unfortunately its HoT

[dark kite]

got the build going myself

[opaque sphinx]

[dark kite]

seems ok

[opaque sphinx]

yeh its fun

[dark kite]

need the lycia carry but still seems fine

[opaque sphinx]

u can play around with a lot and add aoe or tank or dmg w/e u feel

[dark kite]

i have to imagine it's better in higher density maps

[opaque sphinx]

lycia i did as HoT ngl

just bought a lvl 69 tome

[dark kite]

i dont do sanctum

[opaque sphinx]

i dont either really

[vocal tinsel]

yea was gunna say you can get low ilvl tomes and run it yourself

[dark kite]

i tried it once and it fucking sucked

[vocal tinsel]

prob around the same price as a carry tho lol

[opaque sphinx]

just bought sme cheapo resolve reslics, a 69 tome and sent it

its a lot easier on hot

u dont need to worry about doing dmg just walk around and dont get hit

and stuff will die

[vocal tinsel]

i tried sanctum once on this build made it to lycia second stage and got my resolve shredded lol

first time ever fighting lycia though

that was on ilvl 83 tome with only a increased relic relic

[short prairie]

Reported

[hard cliff]

@short prairie

play nice with the other members

If a skill shotguns projectiles does every projectile apply a stack of something if it can apply a stack of something ?

Trying to figure out if you can shotgun stack Oath of Spring

[short prairie]

Never

Report all of them

(And be hated)

[proper kraken]

does the runegraft of the bound affect replica voidwalkers chain?

[hard cliff]

I want to ask you something

and if you don't feel comfortable asking

I'll stop

but we need to try this

just once

"What's the easiest way to get a lot of lightning damage for a bow build?"

[short prairie]

Go to craft of exile, type lightning in affix box and see how to scale

Aside from the weapon itself you have accuracy stacking lightning boots from ritual

[lean urchin]

guess u gotta test that, idk

[short prairie]

Or, as a starter, replica hyrris

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/1T1YeqI.png

We are in the database

[hoary adder]

do ppl ever give a very small amount of currency to newcomers to help them get some leveling gear? like legit just 1 divine?

[proper kraken]

am too lazy to test myself

[lean urchin]

if u can wait 20 hours i can test it in standard

[proper kraken]

sure i don't mind

[vocal tinsel]

sometimes but not usually if they just directly ask

ive seen some people be generous to people in general chat in game though

[short prairie]

Select bow as the weapon type

[proper kraken]

on pob chain goes up

[lean urchin]

but it decreases

are u saying it doesnt affect it then

[proper kraken]

yea but -20% to a +1 chain i think it just rounds up and it's still +1 chain

[short prairie]

so your options are: there are no other options than rolling for flat on bow.

[lean urchin]

it rounds down

[hard cliff]

Replica Hyrri's Ire is only for wands

[hard cliff]

That sounds bad

[short prairie]

wait f

[proper kraken]

ur sure it rounds down ?

[short prairie]

i thought for all proj attacks, my bad

[lean urchin]

+0.9 chains should round down to 0

im logging in soon

[hard cliff]

It's ok lol

[proper kraken]

ya but theres no cases where its been +.9 chain

[hard cliff]

I am trying to theorycraft a Shrapnel Ballista build

[short prairie]

so then it's gonna be accuracy stacking for ritual boots

or get level 35 added lightning damage shako

[hard cliff]

If I could find a source of big shock I could stack oath of spring when the arrow nova projectiles shotgun (???) to get big shock stacks quickly

[hard cliff]

That's a cool idea

[short prairie]

or level 30 added lightning glove forgor what it's called

thunder fist or something

source of big shock?

any elemental damage can shock with yoke my boy

yoke of suffering would be your answer then

[lean urchin]

it does decrease

[short prairie]

idk wah oath of spring is

[proper kraken]

so no chain ?

cooked

[lean urchin]

wait

[hard cliff]

Expensive ?

[proper kraken]

u need phasing for it to work

[hard cliff]

https://i.imgur.com/p2Zec3a.png

Trade big hit shocks for stacking shock

No idea if it's good at all lol

[lean urchin]

it does chain

[proper kraken]

ok its fire

[lean urchin]

depends on main skill

[proper kraken]

well

kb

[hard cliff]

Does "You can inflict an additional scorch" also mean my totem does ?

[proper kraken]

should work if it works with random wand attack

[nimble bay]

It will make you bust hard. Believe me.

[hard cliff]

https://pobb.in/7Wv-nynNY_Qg

[vocal tinsel]

lol even with 369% more currency that last map not a single div unlucky

[hard cliff]

You're just building up the mirror brother

in the background

trust

[vocal tinsel]

ive already had one

doubt ill get a second one this league

[hard cliff]

damn lol

[limpid prairie]

every time that happens i change one point in my atlas so i drop divines next time

[hard cliff]

I got a mageblood I know that feel

[vocal tinsel]

my luck is dried up

[hard cliff]

I will never be this rich again

(I have 4 divine I spent it all)

[vocal tinsel]

i dropped a one map damnation and a t14 no juice mirror this league

[hard cliff]

DAMNATION

https://i.redd.it/lhm1hdb8ymae1.png

Was Damnation really worth that much

or was it a forced meme inflating the market ?

[vocal tinsel]

it was cause fubgun

he used osin in a build so it skyrocketed that same week

[hard cliff]

that makes a lot of sense

Nice to see niche rings find play

[vocal tinsel]

it was on his quad explode bv iirc

[hard cliff]

You think everyone playing Minion BV is getting banned ?

[vocal tinsel]

literally released the video and next day the card went to over 1k div lol

i hope not cause I am

[hard cliff]

why you in my tf2 game tho

[vocal tinsel]

thats not me clearly different hat

i added a santa hat to my pfp years ago and was too lazy to change it back

[hard cliff]

Fair enough

[vocal tinsel]

I am not a beanie bubblegum guy

I am a santa hat bubblegum guy

rare variant

[hard cliff]

Heck yeah

rare gacha pull

[wild bridge]

what build plays like rf but does damage

[vocal tinsel]

minionpact bv

only diff is you gotta click the skill every few seconds so it doesnt drop

[hard cliff]

yeah he's right

[vocal tinsel]

the char im on now I league started rf in a private league and converted to minion pact bv

even uses half of the same gear

by half i mean nebulis and cloak of flames

[hard cliff]

Nice

[wild bridge]

isnt that like 600 div

[vocal tinsel]

i spent around 700 yea

thats with self crafting my rares

[wild bridge]

son

idk im trying diff starters bc its my first league and im kinda late

[short prairie]

i feel like

[wild bridge]

so im trying to find one i like for next league

[vocal tinsel]

you can prob find a budget version to start with and still do hella more damage than rf

[short prairie]

i cant leave poe cuz of the sunk cost fallacy

i put so much time into learning it i cannot stop playing

[wild bridge]

rf is cool but bossing is pain

[vocal tinsel]

ill be excited to have challenges done so I can take a break before next league

[vocal tinsel]

yeah rf just doesnt scale super well into late game I feel like from my limited use of it

super nice league starter and early maps but late maps gets hella expensive with little reward out of investment

[short prairie]

yoke of suffering is literally just 10c

i think

[hard cliff]

The taming ?

[wild bridge]

i was playing rueto ele hit

got to level 95 spent like 10 divs

and i didnt know what was going on at all

atleast rf is simpler lmao

[vocal tinsel]

double quant bonus altar

[short prairie]

2b reached

2B

[hard cliff]

That's sick

[short prairie]

https://klipy.com/gifs/2b-nier-1--k01KRWHJWFWQBH0N633S9T9NP6Y

poeninja warrioring is actually more fun than playing poe itself

but in order to poeninja warrior you have to play poe itself

[hard cliff]

Someone tell me if this concept is remotely worth pursuing please 🏹

[short prairie]

no

i believe increased damage taken also has dimishing returns

[hard cliff]

RIP

I got some more and crit strike in there

but I don't know the big league tricks to make damage

[vocal tinsel]

minion pact p much

ya boi got another barya time to get yet another staff

surprise surprise

[onyx adder]

Oh im sorry i was looking at the wrong number

I thought u were trying to get the worst ehp possible

Next time click ci eb

[short prairie]

here

[hard cliff]

Well yeah and you got eblade or Archmage

Autoexertion stacking

Elementalist ignite is easy to stack a ton of damage on with like 6 skills

[grand flint]

is the league here for 2 months? or 1?

[final owl]

approx 2

[grand flint]

thanks

[vocal tinsel]

i was mainly making a joke lol

[hard cliff]

is it a joke though

[spice pecan]

i feel like

senses isnt damagemaxxing enough

and it's getting me depressed

i assume everyone else feels the same

[nova minnow]

everyone damagemaxxing, no one defmaxxing

ewww

[spice pecan]

my glad has 310m dps and 7k max phys hit

[normal hedge]

i love defmaxxing (5k phys max hit)

[nova minnow]

deathmaxxing

[hard cliff]

no block?

[nova minnow]

not defmaxxing

[spice pecan]

if i tick steelskin in pob it goes to 11k phys max and i do have 72% uptime on steelskin

[spice pecan]

95 attack block 93 spell block

i wonder if you could actually push super hard thru the diminishing returns to get 100 block on either side

afaik there's way more spell block nodes near templar than there are attack block nodes on the entire tree, if you get rid of staff nodes

[hard cliff]

that's disturbing

what are you doing

[spice pecan]

just dont get hit

[hard cliff]

[hard cliff]

I'm gonna defense max next league

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/F-vpwSngFMEa

this is my trade league build, not ssf

YES i am running crit belt and marylenes

i pobbed bow swap + flasks + no bloodline + actual amulet + mageblood and my dps came out to be 90m

[hard cliff]

well why would you not

[spice pecan]

deathbeam says its bad. generally I listen to db

but he is wrong in this case when the alternative loses me 75% of my dps per second

[hard cliff]

see if if you can get a defensive + crit belt or should help

free up some slots

I bet

[spice pecan]

at this point i dont think defenses are part of the equation

[hard cliff]

diamond + resistance

huge

[spice pecan]

if there was a way to get comparable damage on a mageblood setup i would 100% do it

i guess i can eldritch annul my boots since i dont care about attributes tho

but then i have to get 60% cold convert gloves and find a way to path to a cold cluster for the other 40%, unless i want to buy a cold convert hatred + cold pen hatred + lgoh vitality watcher

aka massive damage loss for no real gain

the mageblood pob is 70m dps whereas this current setup is 300m lol

[hard cliff]

that's awesome

is it fun though

[spice pecan]

its just way easier to slap on hrimsorrow and say fuck it

we ball

i guess i'm ranting about wtd and db who say marylenes + crit belt sucks (love you both)

when i'm on glad and i have no access to spell crit or damage otherwise

[astral brook]

see if you were running chieftan you wouldnt have any problems

[spice pecan]

i built this character before anyone knew about minion pact BV

just to be clear

[astral brook]

thats crazy

[hard cliff]

what classes all have competitive BV minion setups lol

Witch, Templar, Duelist and Marauder?

[spice pecan]

im just a BV enjoyer who actually knows that BV snapshots bc of its interaction with unleash

so MP was a no brainer

[spice pecan]

chieftain, pathfinder, gladiator, basically any defensive ascendancy

[astral brook]

i didnt even know minion pack existed

[spice pecan]

palsteron's vid was about occy but you literally dont need damage

so you have to just solve for defense

[spice pecan]

what you SHOULDN'T know is that BV is like one of the few true snapshotting skills in the game

people don't rly know why/how it interacts with unleash, beyond "more cast good", and why it doesn't get the unleash damage penalty

[hard cliff]

Holy crap pathfinder

this build must be nerfed

[spice pecan]

ggg has been so inconsistent with snapshotting thru time that it is impossible to know if the bv+unleash snapshotting is even intended, and we aren't talking about minion pact lol

if you go to the super old build of the week video that is LITERALLY titled "snapshotting" you get an error btw lmao

[hard cliff]

why did it take people so long to realize this was good?

the minion support

[spice pecan]

minion pact was added this league

[astral brook]

removed next league

[spice pecan]

KR/CN streamers were doing it week 1 but western folks caught on by week 2

KR/CN folks really love BV as well, the only western person i know that pays attention to BV is chronic_painless

who btw has like the #2 best build guide known to man lmao

[hard cliff]

hell yeah

is 1 RF?

[spice pecan]

#1 would be pohx RF yeah

but painless' cold BV elementalist has quite literally everything in the pob notes

[short prairie]

what build does it look like to you

[spice pecan]

it's inquis, so it's either str+int stack, or not a real build

99% chance it's LL too

[nocturne maple]

eb of some sort

[short prairie]

flicker

[spice pecan]

str+int stacking LL flicker

it's so sad that pain attunement doesn't work with crown of eyes

[short prairie]

whats LL

[spice pecan]

low life

[short prairie]

no LL needed

[spice pecan]

you're obv running pain attunement since you picked inquisitor

wait so you're just running top left budget slayer?

when inquis gets free chargeless crit, ignores ele res but also benefits from pen, and gets battlemage+spellblade?

why are we leeching? just kill them at that point lol, you should have infinite damage

[nocturne maple]

why build defenses at all? Just kill them before they hit you

[spice pecan]

inquis is not a defensive ascendancy

more news at 11

you play inquis either to play LL + spells, or you play it to straight obliterate everything (which LL spells does anyway)

there's a reason pcharge stacking SWT is played sometimes on inquis, when hiero is right there xdd

[full kraken]

👀

So I havent touched kingsmarch in a long while

[short prairie]

wdym inquis do damage

it's zdps

[full kraken]

literally only a singular watchers eye with my exact 3 mods I want for sale and its only 2D... yoink

[sturdy saffron]

i was doing a temple just to get the omnitech challenge and got these

[hard cliff]

unethical

[full kraken]

what is a skill I can use with 2H sword that benefits from reduced skill effect duration 🤔

cuz I really wanna figure out some kind of build stacking accel shrine + soul eater stacks from coiling whisper

[final owl]

static strike / vaal double strike / bladestorm allegedly. couldn't speak to how much any of them actually benefit from reduced duration though

[full kraken]

I really like the potential combo of Rakiata's Dance + Coiling Whisper

"your curses dont have an effect" becomes less of a downside when you have "treat monsters resists as inverted"

but we gotta then figure out how we leverage proccing the soul eater stacks with a 2H sword

Asenaths is an option

the other interesting option is impending doom

[dense rock]

lightning warp 😄

[full kraken]

its an option, you can put hextouch on lightning warp to instantly expire the curse effectively

cuz lightning warps innate reduced skill effect duration applies to its linked hex IIRC

[dense rock]

with enough cast speed and less duration it also becomes basically instant screen leght teleport

[full kraken]

actually it might not, that might only apply for support gems

for sure, I use it on twisters with soul eater stacks

how can we compensate doom blast for having no curse effect

is there a way to treat chaos res as inverted, there isnt right

[dense rock]

none that i can think of

I have been getting the urge to make a soul mantle dark pact pact totem build again

throw in 100% reduced curse effect from something and self-flagellation jewel for unlimited damages ❤️

[full kraken]

wait yeah what about if you self curse with coiling whisper

is there a way we can make curses on ourselves expire fast

[dense rock]

in dark pact soul mantle you kinda want the curses to stay on you as long as possible

since its +20% dmg per curse

not like it matters when the curses are doing nothing negative to you 😛

[wheat sinew]

Bombastic

Coffee into theorizing about pathfinder autobomber

[full kraken]

okay so, what if we go... life stacker... echoforge.... coiling whisper.... Unlight Silhouette?

and somehow jack up the life cost of a sword attack

[wheat sinew]

Corrupt it into life tap + fortify

[full kraken]

isnt there something that grants a skill a % of your life as a cost

[wheat sinew]

mastery, points on tree

[forest flower]

wouldn't you just run frostblink at that point?

[full kraken]

which mastery?

[dense rock]

doesnt covenant give some % of the mana cost as life cost on top of the mana cost?

[wheat sinew]

Attack, leech, life

Or was it mana instead of leech

[full kraken]

no thats % of mana cost converted to life cost

[full kraken]

yeah but thats basically nothing

we want a flat "gains added cost equal to % of your max life"

[wheat sinew]

Reliquarian ?

[full kraken]

I was thinking of Sacrifice support but thats spells only

[wheat sinew]

Or smth

[dense rock]

can you use archmage support?= 😄

[wheat sinew]

Sec I need a coffee

[full kraken]

does that work with lifetap?

[dense rock]

no idea, dont think i have ever used it myself

[full kraken]

cuz this is what I wanna leverage

but we gotta figure out how to make an attack cost a whole buncha life

[dense rock]

by amassing metric fuckton of attack speed 😄

[full kraken]

wait that might be something

[final owl]

blood magic seems like the only obvious way to do that

[full kraken]

indigon?

can we... somehow... do an indigon life stacker build

with attacks lol

is there a way to gain a % of life as mana

[dense rock]

ghostwrithe + eldrich battery? 😄

[full kraken]

nah you have to actually spend mana

this also scales life cost

so wed spend both life and mana together

if we just have sufficient life and mana gain on hit, we can sustain it right

[dense rock]

this is a topic that goes far beyond my abilities as a minion summoner 😄

can you go negative with leech? 😄

[full kraken]

so efefctively everytime we spend 200 mana, our life and mana cost goes up 60%

so as we spam our skill, our costs go higher and higher, which then boosts our flat added chaos dmg higher and higher

til we hit the point our cost per second outstrips our recovery per second and we halt

[split maple]

how much recovery/sec we talking there roughly?

coz indigon ramps up FAST

[full kraken]

the more the better

cuz I wanna use soul eater so....

[white garden]

in my hideout can I safely unsocket a spectre gem and have spectres from corpse items drop to the ground like normal corpses from maps?

[wheat sinew]

no

go to town

[full kraken]

watch out for any auto triggered corpse consumption effects

[white garden]

I know

[full kraken]

it does feel like impending doom is the best way to abuse coiling whisper + accel shrine for max zoomies

or wait actually... does that... not work

ah its okay it works

[finite quail]

doesnt impending doom have cooldowns?

[white garden]

I lost a turtle while experimenting with Fortress Covenant on a cluster jewel. Turns out the notables in range are still affected, contrary to what the wiki says. Also I don't see a range circle in my passive tree. So I lost a turtle. I want to add it back. If the corpse item spectres also fall to the ground, I'd like to re-summon all of them in a specific order

[short prairie]

[full kraken]

ah dangit yeah 150ms

[short prairie]

this node is so dog

[finite quail]

how come impending doom gets 3 skill mtx

[full kraken]

I wanna figure out a way to make it good

[finite quail]

but other way more used skills get one

[short prairie]

i alr tested it

sucks balls

[tranquil sedge]

well at least those 3 ain't being bought anymore 😄

[elfin pivot]

Devs need to put me as a poe1 boss

[tranquil sedge]

oh no wait i confused with hexblast nvm

[full kraken]

with indigon?

[short prairie]

im not doing spells or wands but you can test it

[finite quail]

its so mid

[short prairie]

to attacks this is useless

[full kraken]

yeah I was eyeing indigon with that node, it is an interesting approach

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/v1peas5Kf2yW

[silent leaf]

Lvl 1 flicker

[short prairie]

like i think for flicker you can only get to 241 cost

[silent leaf]

Also chat, do you guys think that it's very easy to make almost half the uniques viable by just giving them Life rolls according to their Ilvl?

Like I would use bramblejack if it has T1 life roll

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/wCJCMqiXBPaZ

we fixed cold res pog

[tranquil sedge]

you can also get another easy +15% all ele res from alira lol

[silent leaf]

Purity of ele

[short prairie]

wait you know what

unholy trinity angle

[normal hedge]

[wheat sinew]

don't you just need phys/light or chaos/phys or phys/chaos for unholy trinity to work

(for the skip res part)

[finite quail]

foulborn maligaros for lightning to chaos

[full kraken]

well lightning+chaos works too

[wheat sinew]

btw

[full kraken]

yeah okay, I like it

[wheat sinew]

these setups here are fucking amazing:

[full kraken]

what spell would we scale, do we just go spark?

[wheat sinew]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage?allgems=Gluttony+Support

[finite quail]

Spark is peak

[short prairie]

ideally the highest cost

[full kraken]

or wait we want reduced duration

is there any spell other than lightning warp that loves reduced duration stacking

unholy trinity synergizes really well with coiling whisper I like that

"ignore resistances" is a nice way to counter the "no curse effect" downside

[short prairie]

hold on?

how do i convert es to life cost

[finite quail]

You don't

Or, well, can't

[wheat sinew]

well

[short prairie]

rip

[finite quail]

Not as far as I know atleast

[short prairie]

my dreams gone

[finite quail]

The only way to convert all costs to one resource is whispers of infinity

And thats to es

[full kraken]

just go EB?

and then foulborn ghostwrithe XD

just gotta recharge enough life per second

[short prairie]

ivory tower eternal youth

[full kraken]

I really think though that archmage is something interesting

we just want a spell that synergizes well with reduced duration and 30 casts per second

[wheat sinew]

again: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage?allgems=Gluttony+Support smth with this

[finite quail]

Trialmaster bloodline for vaal discipline for constant es recharge plus Blightwell for 200% es recharge during any flask effect

[wheat sinew]

[finite quail]

Or just go eldritch battery

instead of vaal discipline

[full kraken]

maybe we just actually play lightning warp as our bonafied main skill

[finite quail]

lol

lmao even

[full kraken]

what ascendancy tho lol

we only get 2 points from that ascendancy mind you

[wheat sinew]

reliquarian for 2 extra passives

[full kraken]

reliquarian does have this

oh man we cant even reach it lol

god its so fuckass lol

[short prairie]

gone next league

we need to prepare for next league

[full kraken]

wait has anyone tried doing pathfinder with screams

[final owl]

i mean KF is the reduced duration stacking skill. aside from LW

[full kraken]

how possible is it to sustain the charges of all 3 flasks with accel shrine belt

[finite quail]

you cant

You spend the charges too quickly

The only way for it to work is if you go for something dot related where you attack then move around a bit before attacking again

For the phys as chaos atleast

[full kraken]

does this have a cooldown?

[finite quail]

all "gain a flask charge when you deal a crit" mods have a global cooldown

its 1 charge every 0.1 seconds

[full kraken]

thought so

[finite quail]

so its 10 charges per second if you constantly hit

and thats 10 charges per second to any of your non full flasks

so if all of your flasks are missing charges, its like 2 charges per second for each flask

[full kraken]

ah rip

[finite quail]

Although thats with global sources of flask charge on crit

If you instead get it on one or two flasks as one of the mods on them, it works better because then only that flask can get the charges on crit

[full kraken]

wed want a spell that scales off reduced duration, LW is our main option atm

and then an ascendancy that is cool with just 2 of its points

[finite quail]

Couldnt you voltaxic burst?

Only thing that popped in my head cause of the long duration before it pops

[wheat sinew]

also why not go voltaxic

[full kraken]

yeah that could work

[wheat sinew]

cuz you don't need curse effect if enemy resistances are always inverted

[full kraken]

with 95% reduced duration we would cap out at 8 casts/sec

[full kraken]

wit less duration support though we can push that to 20 casts/sec

or actually 15

[short prairie]

510 life cost... getting added chaos less than an actual gem

[full kraken]

we can almost enable 30 casts/sec with the 10% less mastery

[short prairie]

smh

[full kraken]

if we can get another 2% reduced duration from a volatiled timeclasp or warped timepiece:

then we can push to 30 casts per sec on it

[finite quail]

It can't really be 30 casts per second tho

because of server ticks, no?

Its gonna count as 25

Then the next threshold is 50 casts per second

Can't remember if that's how that worked

[full kraken]

server ticks cap at 30.3 actions per sec

they are 3ms per tick

[finite quail]

Ah okay

[full kraken]

durations round up

so we wanna get our duration just below 3ms

[short prairie]

can the cryonic rings be synth rings for it to work???

[wheat sinew]

@split maple I gotchu fam

only 38 more simulacrums to go...

[short prairie]

esm armor stacker

[wheat sinew]

he's doing the herald stacking

or smth with the inc effect of heralds

iirc it was pbod

[mental nymph]

Oh yeah I did see an armour stacker champion just earlier

https://youtu.be/usXbDUSf1vA?si=rf-x_BhTFyo5lH5F

[onyx adder]

Yes

[short prairie]

[split maple]

that cluster gonna be for deadeye 😄

[wheat sinew]

ah

[split maple]

this + one abyssal socket and i get rid of bismuth

this + two abyssal sockets and i can into stormshroud

[mental nymph]

I have a similar base as well

[wheat sinew]

[split maple]

that said i should pob if i can fit rarity helmet to go with that or i need res suffix 🤔

[wheat sinew]

hmmge

esm help me why am I going from 1 jail to another kek

[finite quail]

prisoners with long sentences are moved from prison to prison every few years

[wheat sinew]

[mental nymph]

Are you farming cluster bases ?

[wheat sinew]

nah just doing it for funz

[mental nymph]

Ah ok

[wheat sinew]

it's content I can just right click with my hsot

while I watch shows on the side

[mental nymph]

Btw is simu profitable

[wheat sinew]

dunno mate, not in trade xd

[mental nymph]

Kek

[livid quarry]

probably not

usually isnt

[mental nymph]

Oh

[mental nymph]

Heard you can farm via botting

Idk how that works

[wheat sinew]

💀 was doign them with my resonate cascade rarity setup

forgor to swap in dmg

[livid quarry]

nope

[mental nymph]

[split maple]

simu is what 40c

unidentified voices are 14d

you can expect one of them per 3 simus

and can do 4simus per hour

add to that occasional good megalo/split personality/cluster bases/random bubblegum

should be decent if boring as fuck

[split maple]

what you can do ethically is run it on afk build on two accounts on same time

coz hotboxing 2x per pc is allowed

[mental nymph]

That sounds pretty decent

[split maple]

maybe per 4-5 simies looking at tytyos data, i may have been a bit lucky last time i was doing them 😛

like big plus of simies is you can do cws chief or smh (better than glad there due to better pops) and run them while cooking

[livid quarry]

so ppl use cws build for simu?

oh wait u gotta pick up loot

and start next round

[split maple]

yeah you need to pick up the stuff every minute and half or so

you either want to run them actively so they go faster - spark is good for that or run them afk when chief. first approach has more bublegum and stuff, but anyways profit is caried by voices

idk how much faster active ones go but i doubt more than like 4min per run

[finite quail]

sure you can

Hope you're happy getting all of your accounts banned for botting tho

What you can actually do is have multiple poe sessions opened at the same time in one pc, in different accounts

In different clients

So you can have one account on the ggg client farming simus afk, while the other can do whatever else

[split maple]

its rly annoying it has to be different accounts

[mental nymph]

There is no timer iirc

[wheat sinew]

ayy got another ilvl84 reservation

[mental nymph]

And you have stash box near you

Gg

[finite quail]

its not like it could work on one account bro, you can only be in one place at one time

[split maple]

its roughly minute per wave but at some point mobs stop spawning - so if you clear faster its faster

[split maple]

i can have multiple chars on account

[wheat sinew]

for me it's ~16 mins per simu

[mental nymph]

True

[wheat sinew]

(I have map device timer kek)

[split maple]

like its unfair tradie advantage ability to hotbox blights/simies etc

[finite quail]

but it's one account, one id

[frigid wedge]

what we doin

[finite quail]

you cannot have two instances of the same account logged in at the same time

both doing things at the same time

[mental nymph]

Hi

[split maple]

yeah lambie idc about technical limitations there

[mental nymph]

Simu talk

[split maple]

i am pissy

[finite quail]

then dont talk about it

[split maple]

surely you can have acount id + client id or smh at somepoint

[finite quail]

go and use two accounts

[split maple]

just ik its much more likely for ggg to start caring about hotboxing than enable it for ssf

[grizzled lily]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-drama-mj-community-wolf-meme-gif-8545809296381548010

[finite quail]

never gonna happen

[frigid wedge]

hi

[split maple]

like for 1p voices on avg you need to drop 200 voices, so lets say 1000 simmies = 250h just simul running, ignoring that you also need to farm simmies themselves

being able to hotbox would make that reachable inside league

[frigid wedge]

what do we mean by hotbox

like

[mental nymph]

so might as well buy non id'd voices and gamba

[frigid wedge]

weed in the car?

[split maple]

tradies can have 2 clients open per pc

[cobalt blade]

multibox not hotbox

[finite quail]

hotbox is not the word that's used for this bro

[heady cliff]

amateurs

(tbh more is against tos)

[split maple]

ignoring the laptop in corner rite

[finite quail]

hotbox is when you smoke weed in a confined space to get surrounded by the smoke afaik

[split maple]

its not against tos if you have multiple rigs right

[cobalt blade]

only on a single pc

[finite quail]

you're talking about multiboxing

[finite quail]

no

[heady cliff]

no, not in that case

[cobalt blade]

its completely fine if you use 2-3-4 etc pcs

[finite quail]

and have multiple clients on one pc at a time aswell

[heady cliff]

professional poe trader - 3 monitors, 3 pcs

6 clients

[finite quail]

jenebu

jenepoop

[heady cliff]

jeneboob

now live cursed

[cobalt blade]

idissapear back into failing to sleep now just wanted to correct terminology

[viral bramble]

[mental nymph]

[frigid wedge]

gn naca

[onyx adder]

I love how an opportunity to ackshually causes u to instantly spring awake

Speaking of sleep i missed the second round of exilecon tickets because i was napping and im salty about it

[frigid wedge]

kekw

[final owl]

you have to leave the house to attend cons

rub shoulders with the great unwashed masses

[onyx adder]

Maybe i can convince ggg that convention tickets should only be sold to ppl that actually play poe

Then they'll give me ziggy's ticket

[split maple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileSSF/comments/1tfkw8t/started_my_first_ssf_journey_because_i_wanted_to/

[final owl]

sure, just have people line up and complete the first act. if they don't get sub 35 mins, no entry. or something.

this way, it will only take 5 months for people to get in the door

[onyx adder]

If u want to bar quin from entering u can just put a minimum height restriction on the door dude

[frigid wedge]

eventually ill ssf

when a league sucks enough

[short prairie]

guy named esm woke up

[wheat sinew]

funny

[split maple]

hey guy named senses

[short prairie]

unethical

frenzy of onsalught got me to 2.1b ninja

failed to et a good imbue tho

[split maple]

when you get pissy enough about ninja warrioring you say

umaven video when

[short prairie]

you know traps dont need to ramp

and can throw multiple at the same time

so edps of that ice trap is still more than me

[karmic gust]

pob supports throwing multiple traps and throw speed so the dps should actually be accurate

as ninja just uses that

[short prairie]

[wheat sinew]

@split maple jews are in gs

got 2x 7p voices

stonks!

[short prairie]

Found a poeninja warrior tech again

Vengeful cry with cdr

Insane more damage

[final owl]

is the end goal to make poe ninja have some kind of buffer overflow error and 404

[short prairie]

Yes

[final owl]

a respectable goal.

[short prairie]

I was just kidding

Kafka is

Reached 1000b on ninja, turns out there’s no 1t

[final owl]

haha. damn. submit it as a change request?

though idk what GGG would do if they found out poe ninja was doing a modification to allow display of damage in the trillions

probably nerf melee

[frigid wedge]

we knew that

[short prairie]

It’s blade blast

[frigid wedge]

the dudes in std already found that

[short prairie]

Wait

What the

[frigid wedge]

kafka would be third dps on standard

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

bugged chest chief with fb choir

[final owl]

quite an achievement without bugged std gear

[frigid wedge]

its blade blast, it defaults 900 blades

[short prairie]

What should it be

[final owl]

only 900 hey 🤔

[short prairie]

Like around what range

[frigid wedge]

considering the dude with 9000b dps on standard generates less than 300 blades per sec with bfot and bfot caps 50 on ground at once

a LOT LESS

[final owl]

so only 4.5 thousand billion then maybe

[frigid wedge]

kafka doesnt even generate blades

he put it in so that he could say hes top 1 again

[short prairie]

[final owl]

commitment to the bit. respect.

[short prairie]

I alr saved the ssf ninja page as a pdf

For future review

[frigid wedge]

im gonna be so real i cant be bothered to deal with a full levelling shit, im buying accel today and adding it as soon as i hit level req

taking too damn long

[short prairie]

Same that’s why I’m lvl 94

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

nah this champ i was gonna properly level as start test

[short prairie]

Wait

[frigid wedge]

im really fuckin bored

?

[short prairie]

Nvm

[final owl]

one of the nice things about leveling alts is being able to pop on a mageblood at 44 and have an easy cheesy time though >.>

[short prairie]

MB faster than accel?

[frigid wedge]

was trying not to twink other than seven leagues and 2 ms flasks but I'm sooooo bored

[frigid wedge]

56 vs 44

[final owl]

or, you know, <insert whatever actually good unique here>

[frigid wedge]

for level req

[final owl]

sounds like maximum movespeed campaign time then 😛

[frigid wedge]

also mb is 30d, accel is 140

[short prairie]

Onslaught + Quicksiver MB is faster or slower than accel

[mental nymph]

What mb

[final owl]

hah. MB is 30d currently? that's kinda wild

[mental nymph]

2 flasks ?

[frigid wedge]

slower

[short prairie]

what the

[frigid wedge]

but u 11 levels diff

[final owl]

oh 2flask fair

[frigid wedge]

u need 12 levels more*

for accel

than for mb

[mental nymph]

Just save up another 35d

[short prairie]

Don’t matter

MB first then swap after

EZ transition

With accel your mana gone

[frigid wedge]

i mean if ur just using for twinking u rlly just need quicksilv+silver with res suffix and ms suffix

[short prairie]

[mental nymph]

True

[whole bluff]

2 flask mageblood is as much as 30d? I only got 11d

[dark kite]

you can get a 2 flask for 3d

[whole bluff]

Nice

[short prairie]

Time to grind breach V

[frigid wedge]

i was under impression 4 flask was 30d tbf

[mental nymph]

Nope

[dark kite]

nah 4 is 75

[heady cliff]

and 5?

[final owl]

crazy cheap still

[frigid wedge]

uncorrupted is 65

[frigid wedge]

1480

[mental nymph]

1k

Oh

[dark kite]

damn it dropped 10d in the last 8 hours

[short prairie]

1480p

1440p

[mental nymph]

So uh

[frigid wedge]

divining to 4 flask is profitable

[mental nymph]

Approximately a mirror and half

No?

It's less

[frigid wedge]

are u on atm

[mental nymph]

I am at work

[short prairie]

I’m in bed

[frigid wedge]

ah dw then

[short prairie]

[mental nymph]

I won't be home until 3 hours from now

[frigid wedge]

fair

[short prairie]

When’s 4.0

[frigid wedge]

wat

[short prairie]

Wat

[frigid wedge]

i just realised my megalos and accel both have level req ~55

[short prairie]

[mental nymph]

Nice

[dark kite]

we've been on 3.x for like 5 years or something. when's 4.0

[short prairie]

On poo2 1.0 release we get 4.0 release

So we still have to suffer through 3.29 before 4.0

The atlas was changed so it was a big hint of 4.0 coming

[mental nymph]

If anything

We might hear news around 3 months from now or so

Who knows

[short prairie]

More like last month of 3.29

[mental nymph]

For now

They're putting all their focus on poe2

[short prairie]

Ye that’s why I said on poo2 release we get 4.0 release

Less pressure on poo2

For content

How many years apart are poe 1 and 2 again?

[wheat sinew]

25

[rancid sluice]

1 was oct 2013

[foggy beacon]

Hey everyone, I have a stupid question. I've got one of these to drop and I see it sits at 1.4-1.5 div, but I can't see a way to set a fractional buy price in the currency exchange. What would be the best way of going about selling it without losing half a div?

[rancid sluice]

you look it up as chaos and sell it for that amount

[foggy beacon]

(uh, I'm not on xbox, what the hell?)

[dark kite]

go to id:customize and check what's selected there

[short prairie]

25 years apart, slayer already too old to fight

So he not in poo2

[foggy beacon]

I did, there's none up for chaos. I tried to put it up for the equivalent amount overnight and it wasn't selling 🤔

thanks for the help though 🙂

[rancid sluice]

eh youve got something selected wrong theres no way they arent up for c as well

are you using faustus?

[foggy beacon]

something is wonky

[rancid sluice]

async trading?

[foggy beacon]

yup

[rancid sluice]

thats awakened has nothing to do with it

[foggy beacon]

yeah, I was looking to see if any were listed for chaos and how much

[rancid sluice]

go to faustus, 'i have' key ' iwant' chaos

[foggy beacon]

I did already, I was price checking with Awakened

[short prairie]

Faustus

[foggy beacon]

yeah, did that. I guess I had it right all along

just slow to sell

[rancid sluice]

well if youre trying to sell high or something, sure i guess. if you pick one of the ratios it'll sell immmediately

[foggy beacon]

suggested ratio is 551. 1.5 div is 720

[short prairie]

[rancid sluice]

awakened just gets you in the ballpark its prices are never correct on the money

its gonna show high vs faustus like every time

[foggy beacon]

sure, but 30% difference is a lot, no? Maybe I'm expecting too much 😅 You are probably right

[rancid sluice]

like why am i buying yours at 720 if i can go on faustus for 550?

[foggy beacon]

you ain't wrong

[crisp obsidian]

But can you?

That 550 is instant sell price

Not buy price

[short prairie]

No gold

Uh oh

[foggy beacon]

exactly

[rancid sluice]

the markets the market what can i say whats it cost in C to buy one

[crisp obsidian]

Show

The buy price of a key

Not the sell price

Zzzz

[rancid sluice]

im not ig anymore and i already swapped to look it up the first time

[short prairie]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01KNWF1TQS3A21RH6D2E0F2KFG/4x.webp

[rancid sluice]

youre not gonna get what it costs exactly, itsd called profit. thats how economy works

[crisp obsidian]

????

Ppl not knowing how faustus works in the big 2026

Zzzzzzz

[short prairie]

The exact cost is the price when you bought it

jiji zz jiji zz wait they sound the same

[main depot]

hello! I have a quick question. Which is the least bad golem? I've tried many of them with my summoner build, and they all really stink compared to my other minions

[short prairie]

[rancid sluice]

you can buy one in C for 571. 20c diffference.

[main depot]

I've tried Carrion Golem, Carrion Golem of Scavenging, Chaos Golem, Ice Golem of Hordes, Lightning Golem

[short prairie]

That’s exchange rate diff

You can swap your currency then your problem is solved

[final owl]

i'm no minion guy, but my impresion of golems is they're mostly buff bots

[tranquil sedge]

for most ppl they are

but you can turn them into the main skill if you want to

e.g. golemancer builds

[short prairie]

Golemancer and steal the elementalist node?

[foggy beacon]

the div ratio on faustus is 1.4 div atm (not awakened, faustus). That's a big difference.

[main depot]

I just need one golem that is suitably tanky

[short prairie]

Stone golem of Safeguarding

That’s your tanky boi

[main depot]

yeah I was looking at that or Stone Golem of Hordes

[rancid sluice]

hold on to it then good luck dunno what else to tell you

[foggy beacon]

I was just looking for some clarity on the disparity, thanks for helping clear it up 🙂

[main depot]

the only issue with safeguarding is that my defensive problem isn't melee physical damage

[forest flower]

flame golem of hordes

on an elementalist

[tranquil sedge]

ive not played a minion build since 3.17 skele mages

ngl kinda wanna make a beefy golemancer some day

big golem bois rolling up the the enemy and smacking them away

[forest flower]

she's relatively inexpensive to get online

[main depot]

yeah I think maybe flame golem for the increased area buff since my main skill is reap

[short prairie]

Huh? Your golems already don’t take elemental damage

[tranquil sedge]

not for this league at any rate lol

[main depot]

I mean the safeguarding effect isn't that useful for me

[tranquil sedge]

my remaining league goals are

• farm another few mirrors to attempt a craft for my dex stacker
• push my 1.1k delve depth to at least 2-3k
• finish 40/40

[forest flower]

none of your minions or yourself can take reflected damage

[frigid wedge]

what craft

[tranquil sedge]

synth shield

[frigid wedge]

[short prairie]

I think guardian is still a golem tamer?

[tranquil sedge]

no idea ngl

[forest flower]

you don't really need any proper skill imo

[short prairie]

Wait nvm that was holy relic

lol

[forest flower]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/st0rmbreaK-5941/Manah_Manah?i=83&search=items%3DPrimordial%2BMight

i use flame mine for exposure

[short prairie]

Who even plays holy relic now

[main depot]

I feelmore like I don'y really need a golem right now

[forest flower]

oh i thought if you wanted to try golemancer i have this

it clears everything

[rancid sluice]

relics a popular league starter still but ppl have moved on at this point most likely

[main depot]

no my build is more zoo, mainly Animate Weapon of Ranged Arms + Spectres + Congregation + Empower. I just have an extra gem slot on my 6L right now

[short prairie]

I think Balormage’s holy relic build was ranked S tier in Ghazzy’s minion tier list

[main depot]

I've been using Carrion Golems, just seeing if there is a better fit, the Carrion Golems really don't add much anymore

[tranquil sedge]

ye balormage's guide was popular

[rancid sluice]

i started on it this leauge. easy and cheap clears everything albeit slow lategame

[forest flower]

uhh, chaos golem for chaos resist mebbe?

idk lel

[main depot]

yeah I had to use chaos golem for a while ^ ^ but now I have 140% chaos resist so

[forest flower]

ice or fire?

i only know for golems, this one's also the first time i'm playing a minion build ever

[wheat sinew]

who needs fracs

[tranquil sedge]

if its frac you can dense fossilge the prefixes 😛

[wheat sinew]

nah

[summer pier]

Hey, whats more valuable, Chaos or Divine orbs? I haven't played in several years and its apparent things have changed but also I have forgotten things

[wheat sinew]

the mods that matter are str/red crit end charge

and an empty suffix for inc attr

the prefixes are eh, fixable

just happy it finally hit

only took 40 bases for it to stick

but yeah freeedom

[wheat sinew]

divines

1 divine is like 400 chaos or smth like that atm

485*

[summer pier]

Alright good to know.

[frigid wedge]

if its frac you can get 8% attributes suffix