1┃general

[wheat sinew]

I'll get 1 more and gib it to @split maple

[cobalt blade]

volatile iks

[pliant hamlet]

I wanted a mb all league, the guy who hateS mb got one before me

feelsbad

[wheat sinew]

btw

[full kraken]

what is currently the scarab comp people use for maximum juice maximum ev "fuck your build" breach farming

[wheat sinew]

that same memory vault

had 2x t1s

[pliant hamlet]

jesus lol

[wheat sinew]

so was like does it scale... with the number of maps you complete?

cuz I did 8 breach maps in that astrolabe

[pliant hamlet]

i got better rewards consistently when id id more maps

but tiny sample size

so asking wrong person

[wheat sinew]

hmmge

[full kraken]

Im currently doing 2x instability, 1x resonant cascade, 1x wisps, 1x beyond of invasion

[cobalt blade]

i think the one time i had a 9 astrolabe it was a mist drop

but i dont personally think it scales

[wheat sinew]

ran out of breach labes so can't even do more tests xd

back to rogues!

[heady cliff]

ah, the "unexpected disconnection occured" build

[pliant hamlet]

almost perfect lol

[wheat sinew]

hell yea

[cobalt blade]

4 chaos

[pliant hamlet]

I spend my chaos

[full kraken]

so far it sometimes drops my fps down to 15 but overall its not too too bad

[pliant hamlet]

those simplex/focused ain't rolling themselves

[full kraken]

I might consider saving up for a diamond+massive shrine belt instead of diamond+regen, to boost my max and more importantly boost my clear

[pliant hamlet]

😄

[wheat sinew]

we spent a fuck ton of chaos rollings simplex/focused this league

[cobalt blade]

bloodlines instead of invasion and then people flip flop between risk cascade and wisp*

[wheat sinew]

[cobalt blade]

is my understanding

[pliant hamlet]

I spent like 1400 in 1 sitting

or something silly

[cobalt blade]

fair enough

[cobalt blade]

id prob send the shitty essences at it in an ssf enviroment

[wheat sinew]

oh we did xd

[full kraken]

is bloodlines really that good, 500c means I need to be expecting multiple tinks per map from it

[wheat sinew]

yeah

[pliant hamlet]

we spent all our essences too

[wheat sinew]

bloodline scales both the deli and beyond

and breach

[pliant hamlet]

Someone wants a +4

sooo

rip everything we own lol

[wheat sinew]

someone?

you mean 4 fucking people

[cobalt blade]

my understanding is its a separate mult to pack size so its kinda just nuts

[pliant hamlet]

LOL

[full kraken]

do you block or allow boss spawn btw for beyond

[cobalt blade]

block

[pliant hamlet]

allow

what is this for?

[wheat sinew]

I block, breach resonate cascade

[pliant hamlet]

oh yeah block for resonate cascade

[cobalt blade]

you block for breach farming you allow for volatile farming

basically

[wheat sinew]

basically this

would block mechanics as well but too many points

[pliant hamlet]

exact same tree as i used

[cold sable]

@tranquil sedge hello again

thank you for helping me with the recombiner my gloves just sold for 720 divines

[cobalt blade]

useless points D:

[pliant hamlet]

We have TWO points different

[cold sable]

meow

[cobalt blade]

or the scarab point

[cobalt blade]

below item wheel

[wheat sinew]

that's not 5 points good sir

[pliant hamlet]

I didn't take etched by acid, the 10% double progress for eow

[cobalt blade]

yeah but you could block 1 mechanic removing those 2

[full kraken]

I have Shaping the Skies instead of ... dunno what

[cold sable]

i want to recombine this suffix onto a rare tier gloves do these also have to be rare ?

[split maple]

Wait do we rly have now more magebloods than accels, diamonds, Echo, resists together

[cobalt blade]

no

[wheat sinew]

we have 3x diamond

[pliant hamlet]

damn we do?

[wheat sinew]

3x resists

[cobalt blade]

but make sure your doing non native stuff

[wheat sinew]

2x accel

[split maple]

Close enuff

[pliant hamlet]

oh we got a 2nd accel?

[wheat sinew]

tyson had the first and then he dropped one from my barya

[pliant hamlet]

hah nice

[wheat sinew]

[pliant hamlet]

did someone play jiquani?

I assume they're using the 2nd accel

[full kraken]

is Invasive Adversaries actually good?

[split maple]

Jiquani is waiting for 3rd accel

[pliant hamlet]

for alch n go? It's fine for strats? eh..it's 1 point

[split maple]

Can slap it back to gs if you want to do smh with it, kinda low motivation rn

[full kraken]

for "fuck your fps" breach juicing

[wheat sinew]

why 3rd xd

[pliant hamlet]

In the end it's 1 point

[wheat sinew]

sleigh gave up on his

[full kraken]

do yall use 5 delirium orbs or just a single one per map

[wheat sinew]

remember

[pliant hamlet]

I did 5

[split maple]

What

I didn't know

[pliant hamlet]

he does 1 - 4 iirc?

[wheat sinew]

sleigh was running it on histshot

[normal hedge]

5 deli orbs requires a good build

[pliant hamlet]

5 NEEDS good prolif or damage

[wheat sinew]

I use 1 deli for the pack size

[split maple]

You telling me we have available accel 🥺

[wheat sinew]

lemme see

[pliant hamlet]

I didn't see it

you might have to ask sleigh for it

[wheat sinew]

dw already ahead of ya

xd

ah yeah iksy

loook number up

[pliant hamlet]

what?

[pliant hamlet]

ooo nice

Any t0s left?

I assume reefbane

[wheat sinew]

kalandra

[split maple]

Ktouch -.-

[pliant hamlet]

ofc ktouch lmao

That ring is stupid

[wheat sinew]

at least it has a div card kekw

[split maple]

Well according to senses rng it's 1/10 pilfering

According to ours...

For t0 dupes we Got it's pretty much MB and EE right?

[short prairie]

[wheat sinew]

I mean EE is in gs

xd

[short prairie]

I know I’m late to the party but, just watched the Michale Jackson movie and it was great

[wheat sinew]

or do you mean any dupes we got

[normal hedge]

michale

[split maple]

Kinda funny how we have what 7x more mbs than other t0s

Yea

[short prairie]

Rilay

[cobalt blade]

https://poeplanner.com/a/6J9- it not taking the 10% magicm onsters was annoying me

[dusty turtle]

I'm making a second character and I want to kill Olroth in Logbooks with a Shadow ascendancy.
What skill would you recommend?

[wheat sinew]

so dupes: soul taker, ee, marohi (x4, I poofed 1)

[wheat sinew]

kek fair

[cobalt blade]

it does have to drop one of the quant wheel ponts tho which looks awful but it saves points that arent as impactful as magic mobs like this lol

or the rarity/scarabs

[short prairie]

69

[cobalt blade]

[short prairie]

Sry I’m drunk

Drank a whole glass of beer

You know Asians can’t drink

[split maple]

its 6am senses

[cobalt blade]

lightweight 🥀

[normal hedge]

isnt it like midnight for senses

[short prairie]

Already?

[split maple]

trust

[short prairie]

It’s midnight for you

[normal hedge]

no

[short prairie]

Past midnight

[normal hedge]

yes

[short prairie]

No worries, you stay up until like 5am

We all know

[normal hedge]

sometimes yes

[tranquil sedge]

senses

https://klipy.com/gifs/dancing-potato-11--k01KRT2CTHDJTS50VWE8M20RJMR

[short prairie]

Srev

Yes I’m a potato

[normal hedge]

no u're an orange

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tomato-spin-1--k01KRT2E0VSJVB44NX3QE0RNDZF

[short prairie]

I had marshed potatoes

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1504035008048791682/breaking-20250419-092241-0001-DurFJNBL-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[short prairie]

Yes I’m an apple too

[short prairie]

Nuh uh

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pen-pineapple-apple-pen-6--k01KRT2FJ0R0AM2E94D3QZZ0WX5

[hard cliff]

@short prairie
please don't stay up late

the league is dead

[short prairie]

League in ssf is never dead

You don’t need an economy there

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/mulder-wink-flirt-xfiles-gif-8821888

[normal hedge]

it gonna be dead next league without scarabs

[short prairie]

Did I just misrecognized a tomato as an apple?

I’m really drunk

[silent leaf]

yes, thats a tomato

[short prairie]

F

Now you know all you need to knock me out is a glass of beer

That’s it

[hard cliff]

yeah be safe

drink water

[short prairie]

Piragon the expert

[hard cliff]

a well placed glass of beer knocks anyone out

[short prairie]

My first beer in 2 years

[hard cliff]

maybe next time you can graduate to a good alcohol like wine or margaritas

[short prairie]

I usually just drink Pinot Noir

Or Merlot

[hard cliff]

I only like sweet wine

[short prairie]

sweet toothed

[hard cliff]

yeah it's bad lol

[short prairie]

I got you

Root beer

[hard cliff]

fun fact

[short prairie]

They are not beers

[hard cliff]

real root beer is illegal

[short prairie]

What

The Mug brand root beers are fine

[hard cliff]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safrole

[hard cliff]

I like the dog ones and aw

but I haven't had any in ages

[short prairie]

Are you a beer scientist

[hard cliff]

I'm a wanted man

[short prairie]

What’s the bounty

[hard cliff]

6 gacha pulls in your game of choice

[short prairie]

deal

Tell me your address now and let me claim that 6 pulls

Lmao

[tranquil sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pull-a-week-away-1--k01KRT3K39B0BRBGQ658VZV5TZ2

[hard cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286

[short prairie]

Guys

I think I’m a redditor after all

[crisp plinth]

we all are

[short prairie]

A lot of updoots

More than the op

[full kraken]

I mean if I was farming dust this would be a pretty good strategy

[short prairie]

[silent leaf]

so we dont scream on top of our lungs about Div/H

[crisp plinth]

nah just the game does

[hard cliff]

bastards

[short prairie]

Wharrr

[short prairie]

And no stress

Except target farming something

[crisp plinth]

inverted for me in the last years - trade just allows me to play what i like

instead of forcing me to do stuff i dislike

[bleak quiver]

who stresses over a glorified single player game

[hard cliff]

we are gong to whoop their ass

https://tenor.com/view/amin11ghasemi-gif-961284691622287082

[silent leaf]

ME WHEN IM A BLEED CHARACTER

[short prairie]

D/hr falling behind

[silent leaf]

AND I NEED TO BE SENT TO ARID LAKE HELL

[short prairie]

You do breach 24/7

[full kraken]

I need to tighten up my loot filter...

[silent leaf]

(my build can't function without ryslathas)

[bleak quiver]

who tf stresses over that

[hard cliff]

The goal of Path of Exile is to get really good drops so you can finish your build and quit playing Path of Exile

[full kraken]

also alt tabbing is crashing my map lol

[short prairie]

Apparently everyone that asks about what’s the best strat this league

[bleak quiver]

idk about that one chief

[short prairie]

Don’t ever hold alt ina juiced map

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/rem-rem-deadlock-deadlock-lash-lash-deadlock-gif-7384772685200041820

[full kraken]

what is even happening here

[bleak quiver]

he's getting kicked

[silent leaf]

Deadlock

The Game

[short prairie]

Get dunked on?

[full kraken]

at least I cleared all the breaches

[silent leaf]

Characters getting curb stomped

[short prairie]

[silent leaf]

Know how games use cute characters as the embodiment of evil

[short prairie]

Every time I hold alt in a juiced map my game just deadlock detected

[silent leaf]

Say Teemo from league of legends

Jeff from Marvel Rivals

Deadlock also has one and that's the one in the curb

Everyone hates the gremlin as enemy

Anywho deadlock reference

[bleak quiver]

what, rem sucks balls

[full kraken]

I dunno about this EV guys, like 600c in scarabs and the delirium orb

[silent leaf]

Annoying to fight

[full kraken]

and 16.5 map.... 700c investment?

[silent leaf]

Since his entire fucking kit is to make it so the other laner can't die, then again I'm kinda shit at the game

Maybe that's just me

But a gif that represents rem hate is there

[bleak quiver]

yeah, he's the second worst character in the game currently

[silent leaf]

I'm shit at the game and all I can do is play Bepop and hook

[bleak quiver]

i like him tho, he's a fun take on io/yuumi kind of character

[full kraken]

we just barely scraped by net positive seems

heavily carried by the fact I hit a harvest scarab shrine at start of map

[bleak quiver]

damn, cornucopers really paying premium to lose money

[short prairie]

That’s exactly why they are called cornucopiums

[verbal gust]

alva temples are fun

[livid quarry]

overleech is overrated in juiced maps

[short prairie]

Isn’t that worse than no life from str?

From foulborn

[split maple]

lets you use life mastery

[short prairie]

What the heck

That’s the only benefit? Lmao

[rancid sluice]

34 barya, 17 belts, not a damn thing lol. then sold a piece of gear and made it all back and then some. the cycle continues

[full kraken]

thats a pretty big one ngl

[cold sable]

I had bought these, if i wanted to re craft them, is there a way to guarentee the movespeed + onslaight unveil?

[short prairie]

Who even uses that chest

Aside from reliquarian

[split maple]

you are almost guaranted one of 3 ms unveils

but cannot rly pick which

[cold sable]

what are the 3

[split maple]

ms + onslaught, ms + cannot be chilled, ms + ms if not hit recently

[cold sable]

okie

i think i will try to craft a pair

[short prairie]

I’ll take ms onslaught any time of the day

[split maple]

settler

[cold sable]

i like onslaught

[short prairie]

I started playing this game in 3.25 so

You are not wrong

[split maple]

oh lookie a nose

[forest flower]

is there a point in that foulborn mod? it doesn't seem like it does anything meaningful

[hard cliff]

@short prairie https://youtube.com/shorts/M0LxPrx4nrw

you

[wheat sinew]

Yoooo

1 ring maybe

[split maple]

yk the 15% life if no life taged mod on body mastery

foulborn has no lfie tag

[wheat sinew]

^

It's giga

[split maple]

okay 200 depth deep delve is starting to feel ok

[forest flower]

oh

it looks like it's a lot of masteries and notables smashed into a chest lol

[cold sable]

is there a way to divine a corrupted unique item

[split maple]

No

[cold sable]

gg

[verbal gust]

I'm using the no attribute req timeless and this lets me use that life mastery

[short prairie]

[livid quarry]

does block on iron fortress suck

cuz i think it stunning me

[short prairie]

What kind of question is this

[onyx adder]

I dont understand what ur asking

Are u asking whether u can get stunned while blocking?

Answer is yes

[livid quarry]

evne if i have cant be stunned?

[short prairie]

Stun is not based on what kind of block you are getting

[onyx adder]

No

[livid quarry]

might be lag then

[onyx adder]

The hit needs to be capable of stunning u

[short prairie]

Stun threshold

The bigger your life pool the bigger the hit need to be to stun you

Es comes with 50% stun avoidance

[onyx adder]

If the hit would have stunned u but u block it, u get a special shorter blockstun animation

[short prairie]

Not additive to different stun avoidcance like tattoos

[onyx adder]

That animation can be reduced by block recovery stat

[short prairie]

He said he has stun immunity

So it’s just lag

Skill issue

[onyx adder]

Im aware lmao

[short prairie]

Ig

[livid quarry]

u aint farming deli beyond 16.5 with ur 13 link

[short prairie]

Depends on if I want to or not

I already have a character that does the job so my flicker doesn’t need to

That’s why you have diff characters

[livid quarry]

is ur bv mp the best at everything

[short prairie]

My bv chief tanks 100% deli 16.5s

Yes

[livid quarry]

no point in farming in trade if not abusing the most op build

[short prairie]

If I want to tank Ubers I just swap to foulborn lightning coil

For phys and chaos

When I’m mapping I just go foulborn skin

80m DPS

[bleak quiver]

hm... maybe astrolabes (and maybe mirage maps) are not true boss drops and are affected by quantity....

[short prairie]

Gotta play it before it’s gutted

[livid quarry]

migrate ur bv to trade and lend me

[short prairie]

was 270ms 2 hours ago

when i as still drunk from a glass of beer

this proves alchohol is dangerous

dont drive while under the influence

[split maple]

am sober

you doing fine

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

wat strat are you doing

terrors?

[bleak quiver]

screenshot 1 is haunted mansion with Awakening, Terrors, 2x Shrine, pandemonium (testing it)
screenshot 2 is city square with Awakening, Pandemonium, Interference, Corruption, Delusions

used the maps from 2 to farm 1

[tranquil sedge]

i c

are maps still selling this late in the league 😮

[bleak quiver]

nope

[tranquil sedge]

even the empowered ones?

[clear summit]

I want goth mommy to step on me 🙁

[split maple]

#2┃general

[bleak quiver]

you can sell good 8mods, mirage maps, and high rolled 8mod originators for very high

[tranquil sedge]

nobody cares

[bleak quiver]

like 20-25c for good normal 8mods with deli, mirage maps always sell but sell better not corrupted, high roled 8mod originators go for 2d+, and are fairly common, got like 8 or 9 on that screenshot

[tranquil sedge]

nice

how's your div/hr lookin

[bleak quiver]

but its a pain in the ass to price, not worth it at alll

[gritty epoch]

That's very impressive

[bleak quiver]

idk the div/h cuz i have no idea for how much these maps sold for

they are all over the place cuz i spennt HOURS re-pricing

took 1h 46m 47s for the city square one tho

[tranquil sedge]

icic

i really hope mirage goes core

this is some of the most fun mapping i've ever had

and the improvements to every other league mechanic are awesome

the 5 new harvest reforges make it actually feel complete

merc mods on gear is great + changes to currency ground loot making frac orbs accessible to more ppl

improved scarab farm after they deleted abyss (because lol fuck us)

also the thing im really hoping for?

[gritty epoch]

Mirage goes core only if they remove the loading screens

[tranquil sedge]

menagerie UI improvements in 3.29 tbh

like, looking at the poe2 UI for their new rune league mechanic

that looks a lot like bestiary interface, doesn't it?

[crisp plinth]

mirage itself without the dupes is kinda boring

i'd rather have the actual mechanics stronger

[bleak quiver]

i think they will keep everything from mirage besides mirages itself

[tranquil sedge]

i want the miraged maps to stay but like

scourge didnt go core either

[bleak quiver]

maybe it comes back like sentinels

[tranquil sedge]

so not too hopeful

but man it would be great

[full kraken]

the fact black barya has a dedicated spot on the atlas, and the fact it has a whole ass bloodline, says to me its going core

[tranquil sedge]

^ this is reason to hope

[full kraken]

Im gonna guess mirage is gonna be same as wildwood

[tranquil sedge]

needs a way to invest into it though

not just pure rng spawn :/

[ebon hatch]

or or… reintroducing Harbinger, new faster, stronger, 20% cooler, with new boss mechanics and a special harbinger zone to fight even more powerful and rewarding boss

[bleak quiver]

they def put too much effort into it to scrap it all, just dont think it will be a dedicated thing

[ebon hatch]

i know im talking about harbi all the time

[gritty epoch]

Go map
Loading screen
enter mirage
Loading screen
dies
Loading screen
go map
Loading screen
enter mirage
Loading screen
farms, exit mirage
Loading screen
exit map
Loading screen

[full kraken]

not gonna be a fan if they do that, cuz for a lot of atlas strats itd just be straight up mandatory to take it then

[tranquil sedge]

dies
i found the issue

[tranquil sedge]

ah

[full kraken]

beat me to it lol

[tranquil sedge]

that does makes sense

maybe just keep miraged maps honestly

like it's still gonna be great for fun and the economy too

[split maple]

go map loading screen check mirage leave map loading screen go map loading screen check mirage leave map loading screen

[full kraken]

I think we will get harbinger as the next league tbh

[gritty epoch]

Was saying I will only accept mirage going core if they remove loading screens

[tranquil sedge]

also

i dont like loading screens either

but man

[ebon hatch]

honestly i don’t want ggg to tinker with mirage no more, id rather them to invent new stuff, im sure they are capable of surprising us once again

[tranquil sedge]

i'd put up with them to play mirage mechanic

too fun

[tranquil sedge]

on one hand yes

new stuff fun

on the other
there's so many improvements to this game that i don't wanna see them go

[onyx adder]

Im fine with mirage loading screen

[gritty epoch]

I ended up using FR in mirage to go back to hideout faster

[onyx adder]

Because the alternative is hideout loading screen

[crisp plinth]

im fine with it gone it was pretty boring besides the coins

[gritty epoch]

At least let us use portal in mirage

[tranquil sedge]

^ would be ok with settling for keeping the mirage additions

even if we don't keep mirage

[ebon hatch]

i missed beachhead so much

[tranquil sedge]

but barya boss should still drop empowered mirage maps ._.

...but then question is how do u get barya access

[crisp plinth]

random drops

[tranquil sedge]

like the wildwood thing?

[onyx adder]

Especially for the weak mechanics like exped

[tranquil sedge]

yeaaaa

[eternal hill]

oh yeah, wildwood is a thing

the only mechanic that isnt on atlas tree

[tranquil sedge]

like without this many baryas entering the game

[split maple]

sentinel

[tranquil sedge]

those good belts are gonna be up there in terms 'chase' with like osin

[eternal hill]

wait sentinel is in core?

[tranquil sedge]

in the sense u sometimes see a sentinel spawn?

but not like something you can invest into

[eternal hill]

I havent seen em

[tranquil sedge]

same as wildwood

[split maple]

you know the lil dudes at begining of map

[tranquil sedge]

they're there

[eternal hill]

I mapped to what? 96 this league

[crisp plinth]

yeah thats what is so shit about the whole tree

[split maple]

you click you get 2 stacked decks from mobs

[crisp plinth]

anything you cant buff is useless

[tranquil sedge]

would be fine adding them to tree

i think

coz you still have to judiciously use points

more stuff means more judicious use

[crisp plinth]

or you know just buff the base stuff

and make the tree actually options

instead of mandatory picks

[tranquil sedge]

that would be good too

[analog dagger]

the entire game is mandatory picks unless your ssf

[tranquil sedge]

its definitely not a nice feeling to see a wildwood spawn

and then proceed to ignore it coz u know its not worth it

same with sentinel or whatever else

[split maple]

man sentinel fair point

but if you doign anything juiced

[crisp plinth]

you are now trained to just ignore any mechanics you dont invest into

[full kraken]

wildwood is worth doing if your strat cares about map quant/rarity isnt it

[split maple]

wildwood is giga

[crisp plinth]

cos even blocking isnt worth it

[tranquil sedge]

is it

i thought it was nerfed

[full kraken]

I thought wildwood is like... big boost

[split maple]

like lets not forget it was meta for rogues to abandon map if wildwood didnt proc

[ebon hatch]

remove the tree all together, make all passive notes active at once

[split maple]

and that folks did same also for evo alvas

[tranquil sedge]

i remember

but wasnt there smth boosting that

the spawn rate

[full kraken]

I think a lot of the atlas tree really could be made core behavior

[tranquil sedge]

i forget

wat

[split maple]

wildwood is same as ever srev isnt it

[tranquil sedge]

poe2 tree is so close to doing this

[full kraken]

I think atlas passives should strictly be of the form "upside + downside"

[tranquil sedge]

'we have a tree but every node is attainable but some nodes have choices' is so dumb

[full kraken]

with the downside usually being "its rippier"

[split maple]

and like with breach and stuff its rly visible

[tranquil sedge]

get outta here jonathan

[ebon hatch]

hell yeah

[full kraken]

where its opt in difficulty

[tranquil sedge]

hmmm

okai

[crisp plinth]

not the play as you lose transformative stuff or alternative ways to play mechanics

[split maple]

but yea sentinels on the other hand pure ass

[full kraken]

if your build can handle it, you take more points

every point taken ramps up the challenge and a gigchad build just takes all the points

[crisp plinth]

but i'd not be sad if we got less nodes but way more interesting ones

[tranquil sedge]

im rushing maps with harvest atm but i dont see many wildwoods anyway

but ill run the next one i see

[tranquil sedge]

well we did have more of this

[full kraken]

akin to like, what running a 100% delirious map is

[tranquil sedge]

execpt they went backwards

like they've lowered the ceiling repeatedly

over the past few leagues

[full kraken]

100% tree is like "holy shit hold on to your balls cuz this tree is gonna kick you in them 100 times per second"

[bleak quiver]

thank god chatters are not in the dev team

[full kraken]

and not some weak ass shit where a 100% invested tree can be run by some mid build

[gritty epoch]

That sounds like old t17

[full kraken]

full invested tree should be insane and reserved for the top 1% of builds

like multi mirror tier gear can handle it

[tranquil sedge]

this is the same complaint that'll come up every time

it doesn't matter what the content is

[ebon hatch]

do you think it’s time for ggg to rework scarabs again? we have like 10% of the scarabs actually useful, the rest is 3 to 1 vendor recipe food

[tranquil sedge]

the moment anyone says 'make harder content'

[full kraken]

for example, stuff like "rare monsters have an additional mod" is just perfect design

[tranquil sedge]

ppl will say 'but only 1% can run it and get loot ree'

[tranquil sedge]

nty

[full kraken]

its all self contained in that its reward and punishment all bundled at once

[crisp plinth]

yes remove 80% of scarabs

buff base mechanics

[tranquil sedge]

let them fix things that need fixing first like buffing league mechanics and adding difficulty options to raise the ceiling back to where it was

[full kraken]

it should scale, if you cant handle it just run 90% invested tree, or 80%

[tranquil sedge]

then if they still have time go look at some of the more useless scarabs ye

[split maple]

buff nemeses scarb again 😄

[tranquil sedge]

hey im not disagreeing with what u said

im just saying

this is the stupid argument ppl make every time

[full kraken]

I just fuckin loathe when the opt in difficulty requires me to fiddle with stuff every x maps

I hate astrolabes and scarabas

[ebon hatch]

yeah, even the most juiced ma with the craziest scarabs and whatnot - still a cakewalk

[livid quarry]

poe still lives

[ebon hatch]

need harder content

[gritty epoch]

Making it Top 30% can run it but top 1% runs it faster is a better solution?

[tranquil sedge]

yea its not like im disagreeing with you either

there are definitely some useless scarabs

[granite bloom]

try void map yet?

[full kraken]

the principle is that for any given build some % is your sweet spot for speed vs reward

[tranquil sedge]

void maps aren't 'harder' content

[full kraken]

if you boost your loot 10% but it takes you twice as long, thats not good for you

[tranquil sedge]

they're just riskier content with no extra difficulty

that's not the same thing

[full kraken]

so obviously thats too much difficulty for your build

whereas another build can take that extra 10% loot and barely impact its clear time

[tranquil sedge]

ya but do you remember when t17s were a thing you could still make 10-20d hr in t16/16.5

but ppl would still cry about t17 coz you could make 30d/hr instead

[full kraken]

cuz it still one taps shit cuz it has 2 mirrors in gear instead of 40div in gear

[gritty epoch]

Imo t17 also have the issue of harder = build bricking mods and harder = fuck you level of tediousness

[tranquil sedge]

harder = build bricking mods
this is true in t16 too

this aint new to t17

ppl keep glazing the mods and some of them were rough but man its not new

[full kraken]

I also hate build bricking mods tbh

it just makes a build a game of checking off all the boxes

[tranquil sedge]

that's fine? this entire game is checking off boxes

like this is literally all every build ever does anyway

[full kraken]

"did you remember to click your florble immunity? did you remember to get 100% reduced duration of dunga wunga?"

[tranquil sedge]

bro that's what you already do

with every build anyway

[gritty epoch]

True may I rephrase it to 'more build breaking mods'

[full kraken]

I dislike how theres four versions of the same thing

[ebon hatch]

is there a build that can run any mod?

[full kraken]

Corrupted blood is a good example

[tranquil sedge]

plenty

just adjust them

[short prairie]

did you really expect someone to treat you nicely after they had been mistreated by you? also why do i feel like it was an order?

[gritty epoch]

Yes

[tranquil sedge]

its not very hard to adapt the stronger builds to run more mods

[bleak quiver]

wtf... is shaper donors blessed or something?

[full kraken]

We have bleed immunity, which isnt the same thing as corrupted blood immunity, which also isnt the same as "physical dots" like 1% of enemies can do

[split maple]

anything with lgoh + reflect immune basically

to run any mod well well its different

[tranquil sedge]

^ running and running well are diff ye

[split maple]

add to that any mod combo and altars and its hh terriroty

[tranquil sedge]

but like

most builds will get down to 1 or 2 mods they can't run

if you invest enough

that's at the point where u can just regex if u want

out of 100 maps maybe u dont run like 10 that's nbd at all

[split maple]

usual last few leagues was to be mod immune to risk added mods and have regex for base map

[tranquil sedge]

and those mods are often gonna be either reflect or reduced recovery rate i think

[split maple]

so not havign to care about non-scaled mods

[full kraken]

🤔

[split maple]

but like risk isnt even that meta anymore

so just regex

[tranquil sedge]

risk too expensive :c

[gritty epoch]

Imagine t17 being unmodifiable and always full mod /s

[split maple]

yea it got fubgooned

[tranquil sedge]

its also just rarer now isn't it

[split maple]

yea but thats already last leg

[wheat sinew]

limited and rarer

[split maple]

they nerfed it in keepers rite

[tranquil sedge]

idrm

[full kraken]

my problem is when a mod is just like "fuck your specific thing you invested in"

like outright disabling a build is dumb lol

[wheat sinew]

esm I give up with varasthra capturing fortress boss

[tranquil sedge]

but you can almost always tweak build slightly and just get around it right

[split maple]

nightmares do be worst layouts for mriage

[nimble bay]

How has this leagues player retention been? I haven't really played much this league.

[tranquil sedge]

like the most egregious cases were removed

[tranquil sedge]

type 'poedb leagues' in google

[full kraken]

well you see reduced block chance just outright disables my build

[wheat sinew]

like it's inside but it's half the circle so it's like "hhaha"

[tranquil sedge]

open the poedb link

[split maple]

pretty shit retention but people who played like it

[tranquil sedge]

go to the league concurrent player count page

its not great, but its a fun league

[full kraken]

its the same problem as why ggg ended up deleting all sources of effects that ignored your PDR

[crisp plinth]

found it pretty boring but i am not the biggest juicer

[onyx adder]

Yer its troll

Abom is way easier

[crisp plinth]

outside of doubling your investment it was boring

[onyx adder]

Fortress can eat a dick

[wheat sinew]

you see

[ebon hatch]

there are some mods still on t17 that in combination can still brick the build, off the top of my head can think of +extra damage as, -to max res and more monster damage… there’s a fine line between surviving the map and dying instantly to a white mob

[wheat sinew]

I kind of needdd the boss

for uues xd

[tranquil sedge]

if you're dying to a white mob

[ebon hatch]

im not

[tranquil sedge]

it doesnt matter what the map mods are

[ebon hatch]

im just saying

[tranquil sedge]

'you' as in general you

[full kraken]

those are all pretty generic ones that are simply solved by having higher max hit, which is the stuff Im fine with

[tranquil sedge]

also these aren't t17 specific mods

this is all available in t16 too

[nimble bay]

Not looking too good lol. Ouch...

[split maple]

tbf that mod combo prolly gives you issues if you add pen too 😛

[full kraken]

cuz anything that boosts your max hit effectively applies to those mods sweepingly

[tranquil sedge]

meh its fun

[ebon hatch]

i mean myself my build is tanky af, but others maybe not so much

[bleak quiver]

i guess these sell at least

[full kraken]

its shit that deletes a core defense of your build that I hate

[tranquil sedge]

fair
but also

most builds will get down to 1 or 2 mods they can't run
if you invest enough

i think that's okay tbh

like yea i didnt enjoy running reduced block mods on my triple lucky block glad

but i just skipped those its ok i can't run a mod or two

[full kraken]

why not just... not have build disabling mods at all

[tranquil sedge]

"not every build needs to run every mod" is a statement i 100% agree with

[split maple]

issue is almost all mods are build disabling in the end

[tranquil sedge]

variety

[full kraken]

My #1 question I always apply to this is very very simple

Does this make the game more fun?

[onyx adder]

Just run em and believe harder

[split maple]

like remember how folks were talking about which mods are or not for phrecia last time

charge steal is build disabler even

[full kraken]

like does having random "fuck your build" mods you can roll on maps actually increase fun levels yes or no

[gritty epoch]

I agree with srev, old risk scarabs and t17 scaling notwithstanding

[nimble bay]

Am I alone in saying that I loved the Metamorph league?

[ebon hatch]

if you are at the point your build can run any mod, then there is a not sufficient difficulty in the endgame

[full kraken]

if your game mechanic doesnt make fun go up, it doesnt need to exist

[split maple]

game already doesnt have enough chaos sinks and you want to make maps easier to roll

[full kraken]

yes

treating the symptom instead of the cause is bad

[tranquil sedge]

im not sure what you mean but i'll put it another way

if its very hard to make a build run every mod, and most ppl cap out at 1-2 mods they can't run on that specific build that's not the end of the world

i think it adds variety

[ebon hatch]

that’s why it was removed shortly after

[tranquil sedge]

nah i enjoyed it too

[full kraken]

once again, what does this do to add fun to the game for players

[nimble bay]

wat

[crisp plinth]

the idea of metamorph was fun the implementation was boring

so i dont miss it

[gritty epoch]

What does well in Poe2 add to the experience

[full kraken]

does anyone consider having to use a 3rd party regex to make a shitlist of mods that brick your build, chaos spamming maps and crafting them, to be fun

[tranquil sedge]

think this is where i call it and say thanks for the conversation it was fun

because we're reaching the point of subjective opinion territory

what u find fun

i might not

and so on for everyone

[heady cliff]

i just got an idea how to solve reflect

[full kraken]

right so... do you find it fun though?

[tranquil sedge]

having mods that brick me and need me to adapt or play new builds?

yeah, i do

[ebon hatch]

nah im saying we could enjoy the increased the ceiling of difficulty even more

[gritty epoch]

We aren't even on semantics territory yet smh

[tranquil sedge]

then entirely in agreement with you

[ebon hatch]

game is too easy atm

[tranquil sedge]

because we lost almost a third of map effect lol

[heady cliff]

make it a %based damage from your hp/es pool

[tranquil sedge]

we used to hit like 87% map effect

[full kraken]

then I respect your sentiment, cant argue with that

[tranquil sedge]

now its like 56%?

[crisp plinth]

maybe we dont need a higher ceiling but people need to experiment more or accept they won the game :p

[tranquil sedge]

fair 😄

[onyx adder]

Reflect is now lab traps

10/10

[tranquil sedge]

winning in my arpg instead of endlessly grinding higher and higher? what kind of casual are you

-# /s

[crisp plinth]

the biggest casual

[full kraken]

I think any mechanic that actively punishes you for hitting a monster in an action rpg is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of ngl

[heady cliff]

i didnt finish explaining

[crisp plinth]

[heady cliff]

so if you kill a monster with 15% reflect, you are dealt 15% of your current life/es

[onyx adder]

I didnt say i was against it XD

[tranquil sedge]

im gonna go back to running harvest i need money have a nice day fellas

[heady cliff]

you would never die from it, but you would be quite low life if you decide to run reflect maps

[full kraken]

anything thats like "whats that, you are playing a game that the entire goal is unga bunga whacking and killing enemies for loot, what if we.... added randomly... an effect that punishes you... for hitting enemies?!?!?!"

deranged idea imo

Corrupted blood in its current implementation is also super stupid

"ah cool I attacked an enemy in the game where I am supposed to attack enemies and now I die for doing the thing the game wants me to do"

[gritty epoch]

U should be glad they didn't put immune mobs directly into the game like d2

[ebon hatch]

i want to log in the other day and walking to my map device get random “you fell on a wet floor and took damage” effect, i want game to be hard

[wheat sinew]

ahum

they did for 2 leagues

archnemesis

[heady cliff]

and that damage would be mitigated by armor/resistances

[full kraken]

I think D3 really nailed "rare" enemy modifiers really well, where most of the mods are more tactical

[gritty epoch]

*Directly

[crisp plinth]

wrong genre

[full kraken]

like some of the stuff rare mobs roll in PoE are excellent and I like em

[wheat sinew]

wdymmm lake of kalandra

[nimble bay]

The only thing I've strongly disliked while playing POE was the implementation of the sectioned atlas with conqueror bosses.

[wheat sinew]

that's when archnemesis mods were in

[crisp plinth]

we could visit the harem tho https://i.imgur.com/ccmARAb.jpeg

[heady cliff]

so juggernaut could mostly ignore phys reflect by design, 90% resistance builds would likely mostly ignore ele reflect

[gritty epoch]

Poe2 is the game

[nimble bay]

I thought sectioned voidstones were dumb

[full kraken]

I want engaging with a rare monster to make me have to pay attention and dance around, not stand in the lava, positionals

[heady cliff]

rebalance raw numbers as needed

[split maple]

everything except abyssal ofc -.-

[ebon hatch]

isn’t it easier but slower version of poe1 ?

[full kraken]

where if I have 100% perfect micro on my positionals I can take zero damage from the enemies abilities by just getting good and dodging well

[tranquil sedge]

the only sectioned part of it is what maps are raised to t16

the effects from them are still global

i.e. nightmare map drop rate and the other buffs listed on them

[eternal hill]

after you get past 5k ES, yes

[full kraken]

but shit like "haha you hit this enemy that wasnt even on your screen with a projectile, now you are taking 4000 physical damage per second, fuck you" is so antithetical to the entire premise of an action rpg

[gritty epoch]

U fall if u get touched during sprint

[eternal hill]

but prior to that, gl enjoying 3k life pool

[tranquil sedge]

strictly a side monitor watching game for me :x

[ebon hatch]

i like that!

[nimble bay]

I mean from when the atlas was split into 4 territories. Before the most recent atlas rework?

[full kraken]

I want meatbags I can beat up and explode and get loot, thats the premise of an ARPG, its what I signed up for

[tranquil sedge]

i like the crt effect tho

[crisp plinth]

same thats why the 49" has the second half for videos

[wheat sinew]

@split maple wok wok wok

[tranquil sedge]

casually flexing the super ultrawide

[split maple]

glgl

[tranquil sedge]

1 monitor sounds clean

but 2 just sounds right

even if the 1 is equal to the 2

[gritty epoch]

Tbh I hate how u suddenly just get 10 stacks of cb and die

[crisp plinth]

1 big ass monitor is pretty nice

[full kraken]

I play on a 17" laptop lol

[crisp plinth]

pip to split it into 2 is too good

[tranquil sedge]

also more importantly its just cheaper to have 2 smaller ones

that's rly the main logic for me

[tranquil sedge]

even a budget 1080p 21-22" monitor would be a substantial upgrade

[full kraken]

yeah it makes no damn sense design wise, its just some random checkbox you mandatory must check off after like, act 9

[crisp plinth]

2 decent ones might be more expensive that one good one

[full kraken]

well you see I cant just pick that up and walk to a different room, or sit on the couch

[crisp plinth]

or at least the difference isnt too big for me

[ebon hatch]

that’s my favorite part… always keep in mind the opportunity to get rekt by cb and keep an extra flask at hand all the time

[tranquil sedge]

sit at the table u lazy boi

[full kraken]

I am sitting at a table right now

[tranquil sedge]

good boi

[full kraken]

but its very smol

[tranquil sedge]

tbf i am playing on potatoes ye

i got two benq 1080p60 21.5" monitors like 5 years ago

still using them

i think they were equivalent of $75 USD or something each

[tranquil sedge]

floor gamer

[gritty epoch]

My two monitors are of different sizes

[full kraken]

its been very good for my back and core ngl

you dont think about it til you are squating to get down and up off the floor 20 times a day before you realize "damn these are muscles I dont use a lot"

[crisp plinth]

yeah makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

i had to do it for a month or so after we shifted into the new place here, i was on very similar setup to yours, just monitor instead of laptop at the same spot

back didn't like it tbh

[full kraken]

Ive found its substantially improved my sleeping and muscle fatigue

[nimble bay]

Clean ur room

[strange wing]

is the last line for this item important to have +10?

[full kraken]

I have a chair mind you

[crisp plinth]

yes

[ebon hatch]

switching to 27 inch monitor allowed me to actually see the beauty of the poe

[tranquil sedge]

perfect +10 not mandatory or anything

but if ur using this item properly its nice to have it as high as possible

and like +7 or +8 should be cheap anyway

[strange wing]

aight

[ebon hatch]

before on 15 inch all i saw was mashed potato on the screen

[split maple]

can divine it yourself if its not perfect anyways

[tranquil sedge]

i also can't bump up from 1080p atm coz my pc isn't rly 1440p ready imo

so doubly good reason to keep the existing monitors

beyond just saving money

[onyx adder]

15 inch screen wtf

[ebon hatch]

laptop

[onyx adder]

Man out here playing poe on his phone

[ebon hatch]

phone with 15 inch screen

[tranquil sedge]

ohh

[ebon hatch]

wtf iphone 20

[tranquil sedge]

that looks like something i wanna try ngl

[full kraken]

floor chair, back support, tatami mat, 10/10

its super comfy

[onyx adder]

U probably would ngl

[crisp plinth]

wow rude

if its not a china handheld i am not gaming on it

[full kraken]

hm?

blankets are there intentionally, they are the sleeping territory of my ferrets XD

theres often a ferret sleepin on that pile, though shes up in her hammock right now snoring

[ebon hatch]

thought i would add second monitor but no space

the thing is huge af

[crisp plinth]

wdym no space

[ebon hatch]

on the desk

[full kraken]

wall mounts help free up space a lot

[tranquil sedge]

you have plenty of space tf

[crisp plinth]

lotsa space

[rancid sluice]

buy a bigger desk ez

[full kraken]

a wall mount arm definitely would let ya fit 2 wide monitors there

[heady cliff]

barely not enough space judging by pic

[ebon hatch]

i want my main to be on thr center

and other one on the side

[heady cliff]

you can move your main to the left

[full kraken]

are you not able to drill holes in the wall perchance?

[crisp plinth]

move the main to the left a bit then you have space for an angled right side one

[full kraken]

you can get VESA mount arms for monitors that clip to desks

[crisp plinth]

or get a monitor arm you can mount on your table assuming its not made out of cardboard

[full kraken]

and then yeah, main monitor center and then a second mounted one to the left prolly

[ebon hatch]

yeah to the left is better

on the right i wanna see my pc

[full kraken]

these are about 40 bucks usually

[tranquil sedge]

mine

[split maple]

thats a nice book mount

[tranquil sedge]

ty

[ebon hatch]

that’s a nice desk

looks robust

[tranquil sedge]

cheap item off amazon but decently sturdy

but it doesn't like being moved very much

the screws they used to hold the legs to the frame aren't ideal

and finish is questionable

but for $100 its a great deal

[full kraken]

looks like no cross frame bracing so yeah, legs are gonna complain if you slide it left/right I bet

[heady cliff]

no horizontal frame?

[tranquil sedge]

yep

[tranquil sedge]

yep

legs are just two big metal squares screwd in at the top

[heady cliff]

i mean if you try to < or > it, it would not like it at all?

[full kraken]

Im gonna guess it was intended to be mounted to the wall to sort that out

[tranquil sedge]

correct

[steady elk]

i hope that's a foot stool

[tranquil sedge]

ye

lmfao

[steady elk]

whew

i was wondering how tf you'd be gaming on that

[tranquil sedge]

more like they just dgaf

but i like it a lot

[full kraken]

hahaha

[tranquil sedge]

main requirement was it needs to hold enough weight

this doesn't even notice how much ive put on it so far, so im good there

[full kraken]

the biggest reason I swapped to my current setup is simply cuz my wife likes to watch TV shows on our big tv in the living room, and I wanted to hang out with her while gaming

so I sit on the floor and she chills on the couch and puts a show on, and I get some nice background noise to listen to

[full kraken]

My view lol

[tranquil sedge]

i will hold off on the instinctive r/tvtoohigh response
...only because ur on the floor and i can't actually tell how high that is

-# but its angled downward

[full kraken]

we have the feet removed off our couch is main reason why

also ferrets

basically everything in our home has to be up off the floor cuz ferrets steal anything that isnt nailed down and stash it, and will climb and get into anything

so we have to ferret proof every square foot, thats why I dropped a bunch of money on those railings you can see in the background, 100% ferret proofed

[full kraken]

also cuz, you know, I sit on the floor 80% of the time XD

[tranquil sedge]

true

[livid quarry]

how would u guys craft this

[tranquil sedge]

1 - go to trade site and buy it
2 - there is no step 2

but nah idk how to craft jewels

[split maple]

chaos reforge should be decent

[livid quarry]

rather sell yellow

[wheat sinew]

aug, regal, exalt

that's how I made all my jewels

[full kraken]

prolly just reforge spam it

[livid quarry]

[heady cliff]

you usually spam crit for those

[livid quarry]

crit fossils?

[heady cliff]

crit harvest

[full kraken]

whichever is the rarest mod

which I believe ya is crit multi

[dense rock]

yeet it with alts until happy, then yeet it with regal and ex and start over from beginning until happy 😄

[split maple]

oh there is a lot more chaos mods in pool than i thought

[wheat sinew]

best part about uue

is waiting for 30 secs

during his phase for portal

[crisp plinth]

you made me realize i should finally get some cable organizers

[wheat sinew]

👀 ooo

[dense rock]

just lower the monitor bit down. Thats how i did my cable management 😄

[split maple]

oh rite @full kraken how do you handle ferrets and cabling

thinking it prolly would also work against kiddo

[wheat sinew]

pls ignore the mess of bottles/food

[split maple]

thats the new place?

[wheat sinew]

nah

[tranquil sedge]

[wheat sinew]

that's the old one

[crisp plinth]

not a PIP option sadly

[dense rock]

drag 1 window to the top center of the monitor

[crisp plinth]

its only 2 monitor mode with 33:66 or 50:50

[wheat sinew]

new place can't really move in due to... some laws and document things I need to do (well basically wait for them to be ready)

[crisp plinth]

yeah then id have to use windowed mode

i like the pip thing as i can do fullscreen

[tranquil sedge]

why do you require PIP

[tranquil sedge]

wats wrong with windowed fullscreen options

[crisp plinth]

some games dont have windowed fullscreen

so i do this if they dont

[tranquil sedge]

or using something like fancyzones to tile

o ok

[crisp plinth]

most of the time i am forced to do 33:66% anyway

as games dont support fullscreen

looking at you poe and tq2

[dense rock]

why would you even want to run poe in fullscreen when 75%+ of the game is in pob and music player windows 😄

15 active trade searches on 1 window etc

[crisp plinth]

if i am in discord talking with someone fullscreen would be dope

but thats just league start

[ebon hatch]

do you have any issues with alt tabbing out of full screen?

cuz i don’t

it works just fine

[dense rock]

why alt tab when you can just move mouse from poe window to the trade window?

[ebon hatch]

well that’s a good point actually

but

but…

[dense rock]

5120x1440 masterrace

[crisp plinth]

oh and somehow using no pip makes the colors look worse

should figure that out eventually

[ebon hatch]

when i was running dual monitors i would often click on the side screen by accident

[crisp plinth]

probably some internal thing from samsung

[dense rock]

doesnt poe have option for locking mouse to the window?

[ebon hatch]

some games don’t

not sure about poe

but i was fricking out when that happens

in bl2 i guess, can’t recall where i had that problem

but it was pissing me off

[dense rock]

i love it when i somehow manage to maximize my poe window in the middle of map/boss

[ebon hatch]

also the frames of the windowed mode, i can’t stomach it

breaks the immersion

[raven anchor]

Does helm breaker have a discord?

[undone sparrow]

Yo hellow people

[raven anchor]

I’ve seen him respond to posts here of people asking for help with his builds

[undone sparrow]

I wanted to close my league with a totem build, preferably on a pathfinder (or ranger I guess)

Do you have suggestions within 200 to 300d?

Totems ballistas anything work

[dense rock]

dark pact totems

either witch or pantless priest

[undone sparrow]

Any yt guides on it?

Oh no pathfinders huh

[full kraken]

You can see in my pic at the back there, I have plastic channels I run em through!

[dense rock]

meh, just go for 100% curse effect reduce and the chest that curses you with random curse on totem death

[limpid prairie]

scourge arrow tinctures!

[dense rock]

then run around throwing dark pact totems at peoples faces

[undone sparrow]

I did SA last league but tinctures hmm

[dense rock]

why?!

[undone sparrow]

So I need a witch dark pack totems eh?

Right I'll google them

[dense rock]

the idea is:
you are immune to curses
you use chest that curses you on totem death / gives more dmg per curse on you
You throw around totems that shortly kill themselfs
Enjoy

[undone sparrow]

I see

So basically I'm throwing time bombs

Lol

Could be fun

Been doing harvest rn... Prolly can use the build there

[dense rock]

ye. Dark pact normally causes you or nearby minion to lose hp on each cast. When used with totems it kills the totem after few castst

big aoe and works suprisingly well with crit (atleast did when i played it)

[undone sparrow]

Do you have suggestions for something on pathfinder?

Could be easier for me to set up. Im absolutely abhored at the thought of doing acts again T.T

[dense rock]

cyclone lgoh hoag

[undone sparrow]

Cyclone what now?

That sounded like somebody was vomitting

🤣🤣

[dense rock]

cyclone with 100% poison chance and as much life gain on hit as you can gain (claws). Doesnt even have to do dmg as the herald of agony will absolutely wreck everything with poison on it

meanwhile you yourself are just meatspinning around gaining 1500-2000health per hit per enemy around you

would minion pact work with blade vortex totems? 😄

[frigid wedge]

only game where slamming ur head on the keyboard generally gives a build idea

[dense rock]

i love the random build runs where you let RNG decide every factor of your build

[undone sparrow]

Are you asking me or just a question to yourself?

[dense rock]

myself :F

[undone sparrow]

Lolw

I've got bv with cruelty imbue

[dense rock]

either elementalist with respawning golems or dark marionette or whatever that reviving spectre is and just driveby bombing maps with BV totems 😄

[undone sparrow]

Dark marionette corpse price is off the roof sadly

[cold sable]

use unholy abberation

free

[dense rock]

not suprising considering right now is pretty much the only chance to abuse minion pact

[undone sparrow]

Cyclone good but decreases travel speed

Then again prolly not a problem with harvest

I already use unholy abberation with minion pack

Pact

[split maple]

marionettes are pretty ez to farm anyways