1┃general

[wheat sinew]

yh

still farmable fast wih just go in map, check for caches in mirage -> if not enough leave

repeat

[spice pecan]

now the question is do i subject myself to beast farming to split the cogwork i got earlier

[tranquil sedge]

yes

[spice pecan]

or just pray i get 50 more experimented bps and i can get a second later

[tranquil sedge]

do it for the variety

[wheat sinew]

always split

[tranquil sedge]

you can farm more blueprints too

but like, do it for the fun

[spice pecan]

true

[tranquil sedge]

u wouldn't do it in maingame

ssf is excuse to do all kinds of 'inefficient' stuff

[wheat sinew]

well if it's the only one you got it's rather efficient

xd

do wish unstable breaches dropped more wombgifts

[spice pecan]

yeah it's basically mandatory to do fortresses/hives for that imo

[wheat sinew]

I mean not reallyyyy

just feeks sadge wasting juice on mysterious

surely

[spice pecan]

[dapper stag]

hi - getting a very late start this league - can anyone spare an honourhome? ign MirHolychild

[wheat sinew]

neat

[tranquil sedge]

no

[wheat sinew]

fuck triple prefix

[spice pecan]

i'm so not looking forward to farming 400 vruuns to get an overcap chest

[covert swan]

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[wheat sinew]

ngl it just happens

[tranquil sedge]

gl on the split

[wheat sinew]

I was just doing breaches for the cope of hh

[tranquil sedge]

wait thats evasion

[spice pecan]

actually

i still have my 75 deadeye on TS

[tranquil sedge]

thats probably not a bad outcome

[spice pecan]

maybe I could put together some welfare MF setup

[tranquil sedge]

better odds on the split and transfer that way right, since evasion gonna be nnn to some other base if u rly need to transfer twice

[spice pecan]

and do unstables on it

[wheat sinew]

right

necrotic armour is the play ye

[tranquil sedge]

wat

[wheat sinew]

or what base for fire stacker

[tranquil sedge]

i meant that if the split doesnt isolate overcap but combines it with evasion

can consider transferring to smth where evasion is nnn

[wheat sinew]

just hit bro

[tranquil sedge]

l00l

[spice pecan]

lmao

[tranquil sedge]

a gigachad reply

[spice pecan]

baseg

[wheat sinew]

so now it's a 50/50 on a necrotic with base- evasion

once isolated ofc

[tranquil sedge]

is that not isolated

[wheat sinew]

the necrotic

that one I just eldritch suffix annul right

cheaper than 2 divs right

[tranquil sedge]

idk wat this means

[tranquil sedge]

but ur mod is safe now at least, there's no risk of losing this anymore

right?

wait is there any NNN prefix you can even use

oh grasping mail doesn't have NNN essences right ._.

[wheat sinew]

50/50

[tranquil sedge]

dam

gl

[wheat sinew]

f

was worth a shot

this means my 15th eater will drop me a jewel right

surely

nope kek

ah yeah srev I made some updates to my stacker, feels more comfy now https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pl78865/character/sokratis12GR-6608/GSFSoFoStacking?i=1

[short prairie]

Bro 63 res

You need to have -43 res ok?

[wheat sinew]

30% of lightning and cold dmg still exists

so need someee resistances

sublime hasn't dropped yet

[tranquil sedge]

nice

how many alberons do you guys have lying around

volatile vaal extras 😄

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/1vgwKJ8.png

settled on this for now

left implicits cuz i want to eldrich anul + ex slam till better prefixes

and im eepy

[wheat sinew]

I poofed 3

Low key ending my heisting for the league xD

[split maple]

Lovely ty

[wheat sinew]

I'll have more tonight

Just gotta go to a prom in a few mins so can't really farm mjch

[tranquil sedge]

what's esm doing with chaos

susge

[wheat sinew]

Rolling maps

[split maple]

Focused ate my surplus

So am bribing sokrate with nightmares

[split maple]

Hey enjoy

[wheat sinew]

Q.q thanks

Involuntary but gotta go xD

[wheat sinew]

Yeahhhh

[split maple]

Its only involuntary until first rakija

[wheat sinew]

I need on average another 220 nightmares

[wheat sinew]

True

[split maple]

Okay can we settle on like 100 or smh

Like I only get 2 per map if it's proper rolled :/

[dark kite]

how many enrages do you need to do for incensed hive to be worth it

right now i can manage 4-5

[wheat sinew]

Yeah sure tell that to the game xd

I get like 4-6 a map cuz of duplicate map breaches

So combination power we got it

I think I'm gonna hide all uniques now

Except t0s

[split maple]

except leather belts right

[tranquil sedge]

dunno why its so hard

just get more chaos lole

[wheat sinew]

He needs divs as well xd

[split maple]

dude folks selling bluepints for what 400c

[tranquil sedge]

-# yes i know the ratio in trade is fucked

[short prairie]

The worst so far

[tranquil sedge]

if you have a heist runner its good strat ye

[wheat sinew]

1 experimental full revealed us like 2 duv

[short prairie]

The past leagues had been like 200c to 1d

150-200

[split maple]

experimental ones dont exist :&

[tranquil sedge]

even affliction wasn't this bad

ok i guess affliction kinda went the opposite way more

but still

losing map device sink suckssss

[short prairie]

No one needs chaos anymore except rolling maps

So

Except us ssf players

We keeping rolling with chaos

[split maple]

mi focused is 2400 chaos on avg coz 1 in 3 annul

[tranquil sedge]

prepped 60 100% deli maps to run later

[split maple]

and i already rolled over twice 💀

[tranquil sedge]

not able to find anymore for cheap on trade sadge

was buying them at half price of making them myself over the past few days

[split maple]

hmm buy baryas, sell belts, each is guaranteed map

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

these are 5x diviner deli orbs

which are 80c each

plus the map cost another say 60c or whatever

meanwhile i was slow buying the maps for like 250-300c

owell still gonna run them later

[short prairie]

Srev the stacked deck picker

[tranquil sedge]

yea should be fun for a bit

[short prairie]

I kind of like the cloister pilfering strat now

[tranquil sedge]

i dunno wat scarabs to run with them

[split maple]

oki i think my chaos situation is fixed

[short prairie]

60+ maps packsize

[tranquil sedge]

probably awakening, 2x mania and 2x lineage?

or 1x lineage 1x paranoia idk

[tranquil sedge]

hows that work

[unique silo]

About to try 20 baryas and see if I'll loose my mind or gain some stonks

[short prairie]

Basically 60% + packsize with diviner chisel, all quant explicit and packsize nodes + ktash + shrines, deli orb

I dropped kalandra cards in less than 10 runs

[tranquil sedge]

yea but

cloister pilfering
wat is that

[short prairie]

Duped

Scarabs

[tranquil sedge]

ill try again

[split maple]

pilfering on cloister?

[tranquil sedge]

isn't cloister 5x cloister scarab for dropping stacked decks

[split maple]

does that even work

[tranquil sedge]

those are currency items

[split maple]

didnt you do plenty senses

[tranquil sedge]

pilfering only steals div cards

so again
how does this work?

[split maple]

i am 99% sure senses div plenty + pilfer

not cloister

[short prairie]

Wait

[tranquil sedge]

yea

[short prairie]

Did I flip the names

[tranquil sedge]

plenty + pilfering makes sense

[short prairie]

Yes I did

[tranquil sedge]

wat map did you run them on?

[short prairie]

Atoll

[tranquil sedge]

scried some good cards onto it?

[native abyss]

[short prairie]

Kalandra Ring card was on atoll

[tranquil sedge]

nice

[split maple]

atol has good cards

also the mist card

[short prairie]

Ye that too

[wheat sinew]

I tried your strat bro

[short prairie]

What you get

[wheat sinew]

Boss had 4 div cards

[short prairie]

What

[wheat sinew]

Pepepain

[short prairie]

My Strat averaged like 10+

10 x2

20 total

[wheat sinew]

Did 5 maps (had 5 pilfering)

And had only 2-4 div cards sadge

[short prairie]

5 not enough, I prepared like 40 of them

Did you ktash

[wheat sinew]

Ofc

[short prairie]

They drop div cards too

Ok

[wheat sinew]

Felt like the hats weren't dropping anything xd

[split maple]

🤔

[short prairie]

Gotta scry to monster dense maps too

[split maple]

wanna try again

i hate the plenty mobs

[short prairie]

[wheat sinew]

Sure later will scry onto beach

Xd

[short prairie]

Persistence is key

9 maps dry was normal to me

10th the charm

[split maple]

so you got lucky on 10th map you say

then stoped running it

[short prairie]

Ye

I got what I wanted x D

Look at the rollercoaster emotion here

12 cards this map with dupes

Depending on weighting too ofc..

If your scry are all rare cards then you will def see less

Sokra did u farm like 20 t1s with exceptional exiles?

And t0s

[tacit crow]

theyre still going up

live laugh love

[spice pecan]

what the fuck

who is using that

[tacit crow]

sold mine for 1280 2 days ago

[tacit crow]

me by end of today

[split maple]

how much are double foulborns

[tacit crow]

3mirr

sorry

4mirr

[split maple]

man there is more sockets in which this jewel is good than sockets in which it aint

[spice pecan]

i mean i guess

[tranquil sedge]

:O

[spice pecan]

but that price makes me think there's a real build using it

[tacit crow]

life stack

uses it

[split maple]

armorstacker too

prolly most rightside builds that can afford it

[tacit crow]

middle left jewel on tree, 10% life and ele res, massive regen node, power charge, endu charge, consecrated effect

for 1 jewel socket

thats 4 passives away

you get all of that

[short prairie]

Next league I’m gonna play autobombers

Hands hurt

[spice pecan]

next league i might try deadeye

but then i look at the deadeye experience of getting voidstones

and vomit a little

[tacit crow]

might make the unkillable build for fun

i think its like 2 mirr

[short prairie]

I’ll try ivory tower ascendant RF

[tacit crow]

to set up

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

oh shit that reminds me i want to try mana RF hiero

[split maple]

you know whats the problem with deadeye - its hella fun, you fit in hella mf, you spam maps... then some blasted strstacker drops more t0s than you even tho he has no iir

coz exceptional rogues into which you cannot :/

[short prairie]

2 mirr for unkillable? That’s cheap, what build is that?

[spice pecan]

yeah that's a good point

i just slapped on like 130% mf on this turboshit deadeye I have and man

[short prairie]

Mana RF wdf

[spice pecan]

didn't think a build could feel worse

[tacit crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieNlLbRdl00

[spice pecan]

it already got nerfed lol

[short prairie]

Patched kafka

[split maple]

they already hotfixed

[tacit crow]

gotta hit duration and curse effect breakpoints

well

fuck my life i guess

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[spice pecan]

lmao

[short prairie]

[tacit crow]

couldve been a fun project

i guess back to perfecting this build

...

[stuck phoenix]

Forbidden indeed

Any actual immortality build will be hotfixed asap

So there's really no point investing into one

[tacit crow]

let me work on one and tell noone

[short prairie]

But there are other immortal builds we still don’t know yet

[stuck phoenix]

Unless nob dy knows about it

[stuck phoenix]

Doubt

[tacit crow]

shhh

[short prairie]

It’s a secret to maybe like 1 or 2 players

[tacit crow]

dont be watching my account

[short prairie]

1000b

I’m watching

[crisp crag]

Wow, the turtle nerf was swift, 07

[tacit crow]

tell noone

the mad scientist is at work

[short prairie]

At work thinking about how to reach 2000b

[tacit crow]

i looked yesterday

its a 13 digit number

[final owl]

how exactly do you know when you have crossed the line from "really really hard to kill" to "actually immortal"

[tacit crow]

"you cannot take damage"

[stuck phoenix]

You don't take any damage

[tacit crow]

is the buff effect

[crisp crag]

When you literally can not take damage even if it was a billion

[short prairie]

If your build is not socket heavy then raise spectres are kind of insane

Free auras free damage

[tacit crow]

i got a lvl5 awa empower in my spectre setup

just to get +1

this just to get free haste btw

[short prairie]

If you invest into it a bit they are already unkillable

[tacit crow]

senses have you see my spark build?

[short prairie]

I think I did, but pls link again

[ebon hatch]

wait, did they actually fixed the turtle?

lmao

twas fast

[crisp crag]

Between figuratively unkillable and literally unkillable is where GGG draws the line

[tacit crow]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/bunchof4s-5954/kafkaZAP?i=1&search=name%3Dkafka%26sort%3Ddps - current changes are foulborn unnatural and a few points dropped for jewel socket, a 3pos simplex with cast speed, a 4pos helical with fire res so i can craft my jewels for ONLY crit multi

no idea how much we are worth anymore

belt, rings and voices alone take me over 13 mirrors

[short prairie]

Gaw dayum

Casual 3 1p voices

[tacit crow]

belt is the coolest part of the build

everthing self crafted makes it cooler too

non crafted mod boots were a bitch

[crisp crag]

Dang, I thought my 0.8 mirror build was expensive

[short prairie]

You will succeed in ssf

Time to convince you to ssf kafka

[tacit crow]

i have dropped close to 2 mirrors on helping others craft this league

i may be going crazy

crazy foulborn unnatural spot

[crisp crag]

True

[short prairie]

I like those comments under 100d+ builds and like: wow who has 100d

[frigid wedge]

YOOO LINK NOTABLE

[tacit crow]

good one sans

[nova minnow]

i dont have divs

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

im debating putting a red nightmare by there but not entirely sure i have the capacity to spell block cap

[nova minnow]

my budget builds only run megalod, send duvs plox

[crisp crag]

I sold multiple amulets I crafted for a fraction of the cost for 100d to 130d

[frigid wedge]

i feel like ive been spooned half my divs

this league

[stuck phoenix]

Megalodon

[nova minnow]

Idk, i mind wasted too much

[frigid wedge]

:/

[nova minnow]

on the damn SST

[frigid wedge]

whats it like rn

[short prairie]

[nova minnow]

still bad

[limpid prairie]

you have money trust
i was giving my money away and 100 divs appeared

[frigid wedge]

show

[nova minnow]

Im thinking of just switching it to evasion based

[short prairie]

Show pob

[nova minnow]

and build cold dot

And not make it an armor stacker

[frigid wedge]

can literally anyone ping me tonight to make this man a pob

for sst

[short prairie]

Cold dot katabasis

[nova minnow]

the worst part is fking dresmfesther doesnt scale the dot

i pob'd it abit

looking for a skill

[frigid wedge]

remind me what part u like about sst

[crisp crag]

I even shared the exact profit craft I was doing on reddit and only 1 -3 people picked it up

[frigid wedge]

use a cold gem level rune dagger

[nova minnow]

seething fury probably

[frigid wedge]

for katabasis dot

[short prairie]

What was the amulet?

[frigid wedge]

so... u like crit

[short prairie]

I’m ssf but still curious

[crisp crag]

+2 FT amulet with double DoT mod

[frigid wedge]

are u playing sst for the behaviour of the projectile?

otherwise ill just make it sstot

[short prairie]

Hunter influence RF ammy

[nova minnow]

No, i'd have played sst of shattering if it weren't for the limitations of seething fury

[mental nymph]

At what hour ?

[frigid wedge]

why specifically shattering tho

[nova minnow]

I want mega dumuge

[crisp crag]

It's SSF viable... if you can get tens of thousands of alterations

[nova minnow]

I had like 6k flat running a high evasion shield

which meant easy big numbers

[short prairie]

That’s the ez part

[nova minnow]

but the lack of base crit was horrendous

[short prairie]

The hard part is to actually roll for +1 all

[frigid wedge]

i feel like the bigger problem with shattering is that it no longer chains so ur clear kinda ehh

also

[short prairie]

Sitting there for like 4 hours

[frigid wedge]

trarthus sst has better dps

bc u end up with way more shards being fired

[crisp crag]

I did it dozens of times this league

[short prairie]

Do SST builds nowadays run diamond belts

[short prairie]

Respect 🫡

[frigid wedge]

nah, he just wasnt using a hybrid shield

so he had no baseline crit chance

[short prairie]

[crisp crag]

Do you set up a regex and alt in a criss cross pattern? It should only take tens of minutes

[frigid wedge]

@nova minnow is scion required

[nova minnow]

ideally scion or witch

[frigid wedge]

actually ill make you a pob if u send me a single message answering build criteria

[short prairie]

I do that with ES bases

[covert swan]

Please answer these questions so we can help suggest a build for you:

• What are you looking for, and what content do you want to do with it?
• What sort of build do you usually enjoy, and what have you played recently?
• What is a must-have in a build for you?
• Is there any deal-breakers in a build for you (pressing a flask/indigon etc)?
• What sort of budget do you have?

[frigid wedge]

hong^

answer that in 1 message and ill pob it later

deal?

[short prairie]

I crafted my int stack es gears this league but didn’t even use them

Lmfao

[frigid wedge]

what were they for

[nova minnow]

ye gimme 30mins

[short prairie]

For display ig

[frigid wedge]

tri charge?

oh

[frigid wedge]

u should make a tri charge flicker

[drowsy eagle]

1 button build full screen explode one shot ubers in 10c budget please

[frigid wedge]

to use them

[short prairie]

No pcharge ralakesh

Otherwise I would’ve

[frigid wedge]

thats farmable

senses i believe in u

[short prairie]

I’m done with the league, maybe next league

[frigid wedge]

sad

[frigid wedge]

Cheers

i havent rlly decided what i wanna do atm

oh i can afford accel

interesting

hmm

[limpid prairie]

what you still doing in the league btw?

[short prairie]

I just put this on my kboc

Lmao

[frigid wedge]

pretty

[frigid wedge]

wdym

[limpid prairie]

what build are you investing

or whatever

[short prairie]

So are you

[frigid wedge]

1/3
either
higher budget on my elementalist and see how one might add better aoe and survivability
make the vls playable and do sum shit with that
hit 1400 movement speed on a champ

[frigid wedge]

woag

[tacit crow]

im onto sopmething

tell noone

[frigid wedge]

also im missing half my challenges

which i need to deal with

just really dont wanna do my ubers etc on the reap

so ideally i would: try blazars leaguestarter, do all my bossing related challenges with it, then make accel champ

[short prairie]

Should be ez

Blazar baited you into banner champ?

[limpid prairie]

i can carry you lol
for you i wont be lazy and ill murder the ubers

[frigid wedge]

nah my leaguestarter is just always awful and i wish to try it, plus the 1400 movement speed shit requires banners anyway so i may as well get used to them

rather leaguestart simu on blazars char than try atlas complete with pconc ever again

[frigid wedge]

yeah but that's depressing

[short prairie]

Heister champ

[limpid prairie]

be spoon fed
let yourself get carried xD

[frigid wedge]

was gonna see how hard it is to force divine retribution to 1 tap izaro with 1 point per medium cluster

[mental nymph]

btw eri

[frigid wedge]

sup

[mental nymph]

did any of the cobalt jewels sell

[frigid wedge]

i made 2

[mental nymph]

the damaging ailements deal dmg faster

ik

[frigid wedge]

naw

i didnt put one up for sale

[mental nymph]

aw shucks

hope it sells soon

[frigid wedge]

the perfectly divined 4 mod with perfect affixes feels criminal to sell icl

so i have 1 listed for 1 or 2 div

my trinity imbued tshot sold for 5d tho

both my expensive tornado shot imbues i hit sold

[short prairie]

The RF jewel?

[frigid wedge]

one for 35d one for 5

[frigid wedge]

cws but yes

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

rf apparently cant use the damaging ailments shit

very well

[short prairie]

Ye cuz RF doesn’t deal ailment damage, no ignite

[spice pecan]

it also doesnt use spell damage

iirc mana RF can tho

[frigid wedge]

why is the abyss jewel synth i want 25-70d

its a single implicit...

it was 2d last league

i wonder if i could haggle the guy with a bunch of finished ones down to 8 or 10 div instead of 14d

@mental nymph any chance u can try to haggle this guy down on his 7% movement speed jewels

[short prairie]

Prob because vultures are expensive now

[frigid wedge]

its single synth

[frigid wedge]

i swear fire trap ignites

[short prairie]

It does

[frigid wedge]

is it that shit

[short prairie]

Ye

Burning ground dot does more damage lol

[mental nymph]

how much do you want it for?

[frigid wedge]

ideally 8d but see if hes willing to go down to 10 tbh

on ALL of them

[short prairie]

If next league breach is still a thing I’ll do str stack ivory tower chief RF or scion ivory tower RF

The aoe is insane

[frigid wedge]

my build has room for another like 200 aoe and im p sure i end up with similar aoe at that point

[mental nymph]

you want to buy all synth bases at once?

[frigid wedge]

id just need to make up the life lost

somehow

[short prairie]

Herald Bv?

[frigid wedge]

i want all his corrupted ones with both the ms mods

[nova minnow]

Off Meta shit that no one plays.

Do all the content with ease. So needs to be tanky and do stupid dmg.

Scion/Witch Only

Try not to use even 5p voices, unless it's absolute BiS and nothing comes close.

10c budget jk
Probably start low at 500d, then if build concept is good ramp it up to 1 mirror? idk im poor.

[short prairie]

RF has higher base aoe

[frigid wedge]

my rf is pretty large

[short prairie]

How large

Is it large or LARGE

[nova minnow]

kinda small

doesnt off screen

[frigid wedge]

i can get another like, 17 aoe per medium, if i try hard enough i can get another 35 to 50 on body armour

[short prairie]

This tbh

[frigid wedge]

and theres a few smaller increases i can get

[short prairie]

Scion aoe covers an entire hideout

[frigid wedge]

yeah but str rf doesnt have massive explode too bc it barely has pops

[short prairie]

[wispy oyster]

Guys I played the whole game without knowing how to craft stuff I feel bad

[short prairie]

Str stack chief RF has pops

Scion doesn’t but ye

[limpid prairie]

i have 90 res and 2000 regen in my arma brand i should come up with a spot for rf lol

[limpid prairie]

why

[wispy oyster]

Lack of knowledge

Crafting feel like gambling and I don't like gambling

[frigid wedge]

and what sorta playstyle are u tryna force, do u want chain, fork, what, and if i get sst of trarthus to be way better than the other variants would u run

[limpid prairie]

it is gambling but, knowing the stakes you know?
you can start your cultural journey in #1223326540847120668 if you want

[short prairie]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/ilya138-6622/ilya_mr_rf?i=0&search=skills%3DRighteous%2BFire%26class%3DChieftain%26sort%3Dstr%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Cstr%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill

[mental nymph]

eri hes offline right now

[frigid wedge]

the fun of crafting is making shit deterministic

[short prairie]

This is the str stack chief RF

[frigid wedge]

sad

[mental nymph]

if you want to buy all,i can lend you my divs

[frigid wedge]

ill consider buying his jewels

[mental nymph]

i have 100

[frigid wedge]

i mean idek if its better rn than introspection mediums

i need to actually pob the diff in speed

[mental nymph]

think about it then

[frigid wedge]

in theory it should be faster but im not sure how much ms defiance banner ends up being baseline at max valour

[mental nymph]

you should pob then

[astral shadow]

Poe1 new league will be testing ground for poe2 1.0

[frigid wedge]

the big diff is that i get to scale minion life better w adorned setup on fog meds

for izaro tap

[limpid prairie]

like breach league? they literally copy pasted the league

[short prairie]

[wheat sinew]

They changed the boss fights

Kek

It that was esh and it was tul got changed

It now has different movesets

[nova minnow]

I want it to feel good like flicker strike/cold snap tho so instead feedback

[wheat sinew]

(just from the snippets of info we have)

[limpid prairie]

I swear that if we have a delirium league with the new PoE 2 boss and small rework i die laughing

[short prairie]

✅ ✅ ✅

[wheat sinew]

We probably will have that alongside some other changes

[frigid wedge]

very different builds

[nova minnow]

the response of pushing a button is the same tho
satisfying

[spice pecan]

wait till you play fighting games on an arcade stick

[short prairie]

[nova minnow]

there's delay
dont lie to me

[limpid prairie]

Only death if they make no more effort than that
If they do Harbinger rework with it even if its for PoE 2 testing ill be happy

[nova minnow]

[spice pecan]

not even a little bit

and the buttons are designed to be quite literally slapped

[short prairie]

Arcade sticks no delay

[spice pecan]

so satisfying

[short prairie]

If you controller then yes delay

[onyx adder]

some arcade stick definitely lag

usually more important when ur looking for something to blame tho

[frigid wedge]

ok but what projectile behaviour do you like

[spice pecan]

never had an issue with the one I built

[short prairie]

The wiring

[nova minnow]

it hits the thing and the thing dies

[short prairie]

I’m triggered

[crisp plinth]

isnt the underlying tech between arcade stick and a controller similar, why should the delay be that different

[spice pecan]

i fixed it later before the case eventually gave out due to being a $2 plastic box

[nova minnow]

idk, i never played any build w nimis

[onyx adder]

its cool

i fuckin hate it

[frigid wedge]

pierce, chain, or fork

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

diff sst better for diff ones

[nova minnow]

aoe

[short prairie]

I only played nimis with LS

[frigid wedge]

...

ok im just gonna slot whatever does most dmg

[nova minnow]

good choice

[frigid wedge]

nimis is fun tbf

ive used for splitting steel, vls, scourge arrow etc

[short prairie]

Not as good for bossing but mapping it’s awesome

[frigid wedge]

it enables the bossing for certain skills

[short prairie]

Msoz

[frigid wedge]

ok i go now

[frigid wedge]

nah that one just deletes its proj speed

[limpid prairie]

How do i make my phys hit awesome without a helmet or chestarmour

[spice pecan]

a big ol bonk stick

[unique silo]

They nerfed barya I swear man. 5 runs and no belts. Tf is this

[nova minnow]

Variance

you only ran 5 on 54%

[stuck phoenix]

Luck

[limpid prairie]

bruh
you get me dont troll

[nova minnow]

i ran like a couple hundred, was down like -12 belts in variance

Until it returned to 50%

[unique silo]

Bro usually I ran 5 and get 3 or 4. Last time I ran 10 I think and got 8

[nova minnow]

Yeah, that's variance

[unique silo]

This time I'm just getting fked

[nova minnow]

Nothing is guaranteed in small sample size

[ruby geyser]

Def is. Used it for Soulrend Spiral

[nova minnow]

You ever gone dry for like 20 baryas?

[short prairie]

Autobomber?

[unique silo]

Jesus 😂

[ruby geyser]

No although that would be sick af. Just a soulrend spiral mapper I used nimis and greater spell echo with a boat load of cast speed

[ruby geyser]

It was def a safe off screen nap clear build

map

[unique silo]

Better to run audience with the king than this barya bs

[wheat sinew]

Xdddddddd

[ruby geyser]

Would y'all say harvest is more lucrative than boxing?

[onyx adder]

Mayweather was earning $250m a fight back in the day, hard for harvest to match those numbers

[ruby geyser]

Fraud Mayweather 😭

Boring ahh boxer

[wheat sinew]

Big ahh jump

[onyx adder]

oh ye true if ur shit they will both suck

i should adjust my expectations

[astral shadow]

We got harbringers in poe2 already

[ruby geyser]

Stating Floyd is a legend is a fking stretch

All that shit for show boxing isn't the same anymore

[unique silo]

apart from barya which boss here drops good shit? and fight doesnt hv alot of mechanics

[split maple]

Syndicate medalion

[unique silo]

too expensive xd

[spice pecan]

eh, you have to destroy the totems on the catarina fight and dodge the skeletons right

[split maple]

Idk since they streamlined the fight I Just hold button

Then walk that corridor then hold the button

[spice pecan]

holding button is generally the best solution

i am a large fan of hold button

[unique silo]

any other one u reckon is nice too?

[split maple]

Reverence has Nice flask but annoying mechanic

[cosmic eagle]

You can basically 1 phase Catarina now, no more syndicate members annoying your ass and those pesky multi phases are gone

[unique silo]

ill try this

[cosmic eagle]

Farm uber dread farm charlatan

[nova minnow]

catarina bad

i stopped farming coz 25% chance kinda rough

[cosmic eagle]

Dm me a nice msoz ssf build and i might go back to poo1 1 more time before phrecia

[nova minnow]

I did like 40, only got like 6 veiled exalts. overall net lost lmao

[unique silo]

means to an end. ohh its this boss xd

[cosmic eagle]

You have so many hits on her tho, spectre shield or projectile i think, veiled exalts, a nice life per kill flask

[nova minnow]

yeah the spectre shield is nice

worth only 5 divs tho

flasks, better off not id-ing them

[astral shadow]

Farm uber atziri then

[cosmic eagle]

Id or bust

[nova minnow]

i did

[split maple]

Quiver has some nice usecases

Like cata drops are rly fun in general

[nova minnow]

i farm alot of jank for fun

[astral shadow]

Its not junk

[stuck phoenix]

Well, they did say jank

[cosmic eagle]

I doubt you are farming atziri for drops

You are there for 4 reasons

[nova minnow]

well if you can get disfavour its not bad

[astral shadow]

Its one of best boss farms

[nova minnow]

but you're mostly there for greater spell echo or smth

[karmic gust]

that shield not being 1 alch like it basically always used to be in apast is pretty nice :d

[nova minnow]

i got this to drop, but it's worthless lmao

[cosmic eagle]

Did you farm this from boxes or bought?

[nova minnow]

bought to farm

[astral shadow]

Just get GSE

[unique silo]

which flask drops from severence?

[nova minnow]

severence? you mean the memory boss?

prophet's something

[split maple]

Wine of prophet

Fun flask

[cosmic eagle]

Good luck dropping 1 wine in 50 runs

You will need it

[spice pecan]

dropped mine on my voidstone run in ssf

[split maple]

Took me 5 this league

Didn't get any last league :/

[nova minnow]

if i farm dread, i want to farm feared

so eh, not a dedicated farm

[unique silo]

yea

[astral shadow]

[cosmic eagle]

Wait check how much congregate gems are they might sell

That can be a nice chaos/hr on your dread journey

[nova minnow]

930c

[rough field]

Just farm feared for wine flask, better droprate there

[nova minnow]

so 2d

[cosmic eagle]

Not bad

[split maple]

Is it

That was nerfed this league

[rough field]

[split maple]

All flask drops from feared were adjusted to not be better anymore :/

[astral shadow]

Its same but free enter for each boss basically

[rough field]

Idk I got 2 from it so it not bad

[nova minnow]

im just farming these now

[rough field]

In like 40-50 feared….

[cosmic eagle]

I mean volly orbs farm is like a rush alch and go shit

[astral shadow]

Where those drop? I got like 1 full league

[split maple]

Yea last leg was like 1 per 10 juiced feared

[nova minnow]

miraged beyond

[tranquil sedge]

how ya doin it

empowered deli maps?

[cosmic eagle]

Gotta spawn all 3 bosses within mirage for more chance at volly orbs you need scarabussy

[nova minnow]

I do speed over juice

[tranquil sedge]

all 3?

[nova minnow]

so just alch n go

[astral shadow]

Oh didnt target farm beyond, so was just lucky with random spawns

[tranquil sedge]

omniphobia, kosis, and what is third?

[astral shadow]

3rd is new poe2 boss

[tranquil sedge]

?

[nova minnow]

beyond resurgence, beyond evasion, deli neuroses, breach instability, wisps

[split maple]

That's deli not beyond

[tranquil sedge]

o

right

[cosmic eagle]

Yeah you can summon all 3 bosses from beyond with a scarab i think its @ chance but not guaranteed but evertime i did it all 3 of em shows up so yeah

[split maple]

So beidat ktash and whoever is third

[cosmic eagle]

Ye

[nova minnow]

some fatty

[cosmic eagle]

Yep that 1

[nova minnow]

its top left of atlas tree anyway

Ghorr

[tranquil sedge]

wait then how was i even getting them

[cosmic eagle]

You need that scarabussy to get all 3 and basically you just kill them and hope for a drop

[tranquil sedge]

when i had this node allocated

i wasn't getting many at all, but i was getting them rarely

[nova minnow]

well beidat followers drop tainted currency

[cosmic eagle]

Dont pick endless tide lol

[rough field]

I wonder if titanic scarabs work for dropping more tainted currency

[nova minnow]

you don't need bosses specifically

[tranquil sedge]

i was just using beyond to increase mob count for my 100% deli maps

[nova minnow]

but beyond boss farming makes things faster

[split maple]

https://youtu.be/tnFSUpI8IdA?is=rJUisct93cVX2Wml

[cosmic eagle]

No wonder boses aint spawning in your maps

[split maple]

This setup is good for vaalies

Like 1-2 per labe

[tranquil sedge]

i was running 5x diviner orb maps

so i just copied someone else's tree

where they used beyond for more monsters to kill

should i still drop that node

coz bosses good?

[karmic gust]

that scarb sounds kinda fire for early league as well even if they get rid of volatile vaal next league ngl, beyond early is always good money

[cosmic eagle]

Beyond breach is so laggy this league hence i just separate farming them in ssf

[split maple]

If you want packs take endless

[karmic gust]

is it new from this league or?

[split maple]

If you want vaalies dont

[tranquil sedge]

hmmm ok

[split maple]

Coz beyond mobs stop spawning after boss drops

[tranquil sedge]

wat abt my other question

[tranquil sedge]

^

[nova minnow]

bosses guaranteed tainted currency drop

[nova minnow]

becoz normal beyond mobs can drop them too

[split maple]

Buggy mess

[cosmic eagle]

It's a nice scarab yep, the best thing is the scarab aint that even rare this league, very good for farming mythical, divs and other corrupted currencies

[split maple]

Assuming you mean bosses spawned

[cosmic eagle]

It will always spawn if you slap that scarab

[split maple]

Mythic orbies are so so easy this league

Got me stormshroud and ancestral from them

[spice pecan]

viridianmaxxing

[cosmic eagle]

I got 50 mythics and all of em poofed

[split maple]

Have you considered getting average rng

[cosmic eagle]

My rng is all over the place this league

[tranquil sedge]

ah okay
thanks

[cosmic eagle]

I got the enmity off 1 kill then i got the grey wind after 170 runs

[astral shadow]

Weapon effect skins can be applied to all kind of weapon types? Cuz they are shown as swords

[short prairie]

Uber Dan msoz

[spice pecan]

it specifically says on the mtx

[short prairie]

Bed time

[astral shadow]

If it doesnt say then no restrictions?

[spice pecan]

that would be my guess but i'm not sure there are any like that

oh you mean weapon EFFECT

[astral shadow]

Yeh

[spice pecan]

i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what type yeah

but if it did need a specific type it would say, surely

[wheat sinew]

Yeah weapon effects are universal

Just weapon skins are specific for the most part*

[split maple]

now that surpised me a lil

[spice pecan]

greater spork

[silent leaf]

Mmmmm...
Split and fork

[split maple]

now that would be fun gem

[dark kite]

damn, the feared invitation lowkey easier than the bosses

[tacit crow]

so bouht my foulborn unnatural and priced the build!

we are at 22 mirrors

and the only upgrades i need dont exist on trade

[unique silo]

sirus is actually a bitch

[dark kite]

if feared keep shitting out woke orbs and watchers i might make it a habit

[astral brook]

22 mirrors.

[tacit crow]

yup

roughly

maybe a little more or less depending

[astral brook]

im at a crisp 4d🙏

[opal ingot]

can i have 6 or 7

[unique silo]

going in my first uber fight with sirus

[tacit crow]

you got it!

[astral brook]

gl its easy

[unique silo]

pray for him. hes about to get jumped by my golems

[astral brook]

i mean i think 22 mirr is possible actually

[tacit crow]

it is indeed

90% of that is non gambled money

crazy

[astral brook]

most days i net 100d a mirr is 500 so 5 days per mirr, 5x22 is 110 days nevermind not possible

[astral brook]

gambling does more harm than good tbh

[split maple]

mir is 1200d+ on pc mhmd

[astral brook]

what the fuck

[split maple]

how many items are on console that you would mirror

[astral brook]

alot actually

theres a few crafting gods here wich ms for free

[opal ingot]

500d for a mirror

damn

[astral brook]

well factor in that we make like 3x less on any farm

[cosmic sapphire]

6 or 7

[wheat sinew]

I hate it

XD

[split maple]

the prom?

[wheat sinew]

Nah

The 6 or 7

[dark kite]

finally got my lycia carry

[wheat sinew]

The prom is nice, I may have drunk a tiny bit too much whiskey but tonight we farming breach so it's fine

Gonna leave in an hour, but was funz

[dark kite]

before speccing lycia: 1.2m tooltip on msoz

after: 1.55m

blegh i need 50 more str to hit my next alberons breakpoint

i dont think i can get that

unless i swap out my life/flat str/mana on hit jewel

[vestal wolf]

Does the “creates smoke cloud on use” and “taunts enemies on use” always apply if you are using a mageblood for the basalt and stibnite flasks?

[full kraken]

I believe no

[pulsar dune]

No, it happens once per instance IIRC

At the very start

Or possibly only on equip

You can click the flask manually for the effect tho

[split maple]

can you?

magic util flasks cannot be used right

[astral brook]

you guys think bows have a better clear than mamba

i typed the same question waited 15 minutes then realised im in a valorant server

[wheat sinew]

Mamba is tanky

While bows are I see the end

I am the end

I'm in the end

[split maple]

kinda hard to compare poison prolif and milion projs

[astral brook]

not that tanky tbh

so bows bassicly

[wheat sinew]

Bows builds quite literally they sniff you and you die

But you kill before shi loads

Sooooo there is that

[split maple]

hey get to 50 hh stacks

then facetank stuff

[wheat sinew]

Sure sure sure

[astral brook]

my mamba isnt that tanky anyways so bows wont be that bad

[wheat sinew]

Lemme tell that to sleigh

[split maple]

twas nice

[astral brook]

juiced breach gets that easy

[wheat sinew]

Stonks

Yeah so I had max hh stacks and hot 1 shot remember yd esm

XD

That was hilarious

Something legit dealt 930k dmg in 1 hit

[split maple]

i still dont know how you made that mob

[astral brook]

bad stacks ig lol

[wheat sinew]

Nah the mob had 16 extra mods

[split maple]

nah if you have 60 stacks i am pretty sure you have all of them

[wheat sinew]

On last chain of resonate cascade

Kek

[astral brook]

how does that even happen

[wheat sinew]

Foes, map effect corrupt + 1 rare

[astral brook]

i got 1 ike that hit harder than ubers

[wheat sinew]

I can get mobs to do that easily

It's called allflame of propagation

XD

[astral brook]

when do bows get good anyways

i alr have a hh,nimis

[split maple]

once you equip hh and have decent phys bow then decide to swap it to wand

so you have movement skill

[astral brook]

phys bow better than triple ele and +2?

[split maple]

well it still wants +2 rite

but yea, ramped hh is equivalent to 50% phys of each ele as extra

[astral brook]

phys bow + 2 all im hearing is too much invest on a glass cannon 🙏

[vestal wolf]

Yeah it doesn’t constantly apply the basalt flask, but also at what point does basalt become better than granite or is this something I have to pob?

[split maple]

yea issue with bow is that it has worse clear than wand, harder craft than wand and no movement skill unlike wand

[astral brook]

kboc better prob

ps5 cant handle that stuff in juiced breach tho too much booms

[split maple]

[grim pivot]

How expensive are voices normally during the first month of league? Its ~135d now but is it like ~300d?

[astral brook]

wich

[grim pivot]

Large clusters 3 passives

[astral brook]

probably around 200

its 140 here rn 300 on league start

[split maple]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/economy/mirage/unique-jewels/voices-3-passives-large-cluster-jewel

see graph

[astral brook]

why are your prices so bad arent you guys better

260d for a lock

[grim pivot]

I always forget to check poeninja for this

[copper vale]

its because bread taste better than key

[split maple]

ffs

[limpid prairie]

salvage recomb!

[split maple]

ofc but i am out of fracs

[wheat sinew]

Gib

[limpid prairie]

oh sucks..

[split maple]

cant believe i miss harbies

[astral brook]

buy

[wheat sinew]

Bro I miss them every day

Cuz I could farm multiple fracs from a few map

I miss that

or annuls...

... .

[astral brook]

15c btw

[wheat sinew]

We can't xD

Trade doesn't exist

[astral brook]

ssf

ohh

[split maple]

hey faustus works in gsf right

[wheat sinew]

Yeah

[astral brook]

miserable life

[split maple]

gonna list some annuls for frac orb each

[wheat sinew]

Lmfao

[limpid prairie]

annuls are on red altars
fractures on originator quant maps

[split maple]

[opal ingot]

am i so brainrot than whenever i hear "it's not just x, it's y" statement, i immediately get suspicious of the video

[astral brook]

kinda valid

[wheat sinew]

Dw I'll supply soon tm

Btw I need an average of 4 fracs

Kek

Don't ask why

[split maple]

i think i should prioritize getting sanctum online

[astral brook]

ssf may be hard but it looks calm

[split maple]

do we know how many sanctumys per frac it is

[wheat sinew]

Bro same but how the fuck do I make the build playable

Is it really spec out diamond shrine

[astral brook]

can mirror a cluster

[wheat sinew]

Well you say that

But it's easier to craft another

Kek

[split maple]

hey tradies mirror clusters too

[wheat sinew]

For trade it's hassle

[split maple]

them 3x explodey synth ones

[astral brook]

no way its that bad to craft

[wheat sinew]

^

They do

It's cbt

[astral brook]

what do ssf people mirror anyways

isnt all your gear mid

[split maple]

https://www.thesettle.shop/

check jewels section

[split maple]

i did a ring last league

saved me week of essence farm

[wheat sinew]

Speaking of ring

Esm, my friendo with the flicker gloves and swords

Needs scorns kek

[astral brook]

this is stupid

i could make this why mirr and 50d

[split maple]

you could make these implciits for less?

[wheat sinew]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pl78865/character/SumoBob567-6943/FlickerMyPantsOff?i=6

[astral brook]

probably

[wheat sinew]

These implicits ar meh

[split maple]

[wheat sinew]

Wait lemme show you my jew

[astral brook]

shalom

[wheat sinew]

Kek

[astral brook]

that looks good

[split maple]

yea gonna need to farm esses too -.- lets see if we get to 200 without hypo

[astral brook]

idk about jewel prices i hardly ever use regular ones

[split maple]

we have scorns in gs tho

[wheat sinew]

I ugh

So I made a pact

I farm everything else

But can't do essences xD

[split maple]

sure, i need some fossils

[silent leaf]

Lmfao

[wheat sinew]

Ew okay fuck fuck fuck

Fuck

[split maple]

[silent leaf]

Imagine having fun on a build

[limpid prairie]

lasted 1 day?

lol

[astral brook]

i used to farm essence with low budget rf you'l live

[wheat sinew]

Hey it's surprising it didn't survive the weekend

[silent leaf]

Shouldn't have shown it

Idk

[split maple]

saturday evening back to office worthy bug

[wheat sinew]

Oh I know just I have 5 things I'm farming for atm

[split maple]

well "bug"

[limpid prairie]

unintended interaction

[wheat sinew]

Farming nightmare maps for sublime vision, breaches for a hh for s friend, farming eater of worlds for ff/FF, need t0s for collection... Then sanctum for relics...

[silent leaf]

[wheat sinew]

Btw esm I can't believe we got the fucking gs

We did a good amount of grinding xD

[astral brook]

yeah i wouldnt survive ssf

[split maple]

wdym one of them xd

i still cannot get over 3 fuckign pc ones

[wheat sinew]

Lmfao

[split maple]

shit is supposed to be rare aint it

[wheat sinew]

600.. ah fuck it 1 more lab... Gets it