1┃general

[full fossil]

nah i think thats funnier

[grizzled lily]

i prob got hungry myself and ate the word

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/IG6nSPU5RfNJ this is the squishiest build ive ever played

[split palm]

not the issue at hand

[tranquil sedge]

when a man that's played flicker says that, you know he's serious

[opal ingot]

i died a million times more in flicker

although it was zerk flicker

[spice pecan]

where's CI eblade flicker

😡

[opal ingot]

how aobut fb ghostwrithe flicker

[karmic gust]

https://giphy.com/gifs/adweek-no-way-how-bout-STfLOU6iRBRunMciZv

[spice pecan]

db killing our fun yet again

[opal ingot]

you guys just hate red ES

[blazing spear]

tfw you get an infraction irl

[spice pecan]

straight to jail

[blazing spear]

I did it lmao

[short prairie]

My flicker is ailment immune and kills fast enough to not get touched

[blazing spear]

I engaged in accidental property damage with 2 fellow exiles

[short prairie]

[short prairie]

I saw a guy did that

[spice pecan]

holy

[short prairie]

I might try next league

[spice pecan]

i too want to see this

what asc? inquis, slayer, scion?

feel like duelist cant rly path to CI

[opal ingot]

infuse yourself with a portal gem

for when you get to jail

[blazing spear]

It was at school

We have to split in a 33% ratio a ton of divs due to our own damage

[opal ingot]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spill-issue-oh-no-my-milj

[final owl]

i feel like maybe people here will have opinions about this. Is there a company that makes an actually good gaming mouse, where the associated software for doing simple things like re-assigning buttons or setting DPI isn't absolutely [redacted] ?

[spice pecan]

spill issue

[spice pecan]

I find glorious's software to be pretty easy to use

it's not crazy slow and bloated like corsair/razer

[final owl]

G-hub is currently making me want to do [things i would need to disclaimer as being a joke]

[karmic gust]

every dogshit company having separate software for managing their devices when its something that should be standardized is the real joke

[split maple]

not even the most cursed pathing i saw today

[spice pecan]

reminds me of when every cell phone had a different charger type

[final owl]

I don't disagree

[rancid sluice]

havent used a logitech in awhile i dont know how ghub is, razer is slightly more intuitive for me than corsair but both still leave you scratching your head on design choices

[short prairie]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/miragessf/character/tickytocky-0568/BIG_T_DOG?i=34&search=skills%3DFlicker%2BStrike%26sort%3Ddps

[spice pecan]

that templar area pathing is really funny for some reason

[blazing spear]

Apparently, the Wall of Force/Ground Slam interaction can lead to some damage

[karmic gust]

yea stuff like this should be illegal

[short prairie]

What the heck

[karmic gust]

well the charger stuff now is but the rest too :d

[spice pecan]

not CI but still eblade

[final owl]

but man. not much lights my wick like tools that are supposed to do jobs being made impossible to use properly due to absolute dogshit software.

[split maple]

first ci flicker slaya on list on ninja https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/yuan-4958/WFsheepp?i=0&search=skills%3DFlicker%2BStrike%26allgems%3DEnergy%2BBlade%26class%3DSlayer

[spice pecan]

holy

[split maple]

like pretty routine setup

i think we looked at that like last two leagues already senses?

[spice pecan]

that megalo is sick

[short prairie]

I think this guy can use some help

[short prairie]

Yes

[spice pecan]

he's even on a 19/20 flicker

crazy

[short prairie]

I saved a bunch of pcharge stacking slayers in 3.26

Theres one person just does it best, and it was this league.

Resonating belt saves 3 jewel slots since no more min frenzy jewels

[spice pecan]

min frenzies work with flicker?

i thought min frenzy was just weapon swap stuff to start flicking

[split maple]

heh templar area there is even more messed

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/huaxuedenaozi-3371/happydivorb?i=0&search=skills%3DFlicker%2BStrike%26allgems%3DEnergy%2BBlade%26class%3DSlayer%26sort%3Denergyshield

[split maple]

cannot consume them so need to have min < max

and stil lgenerate them

[spice pecan]

that templar area holy shit

i had a stroke

[short prairie]

It’s either min frenzy or min power

Min frenzy for frenzy of onslaught, min power for flicker

And swap ralakesh accordingly

[sick sable]

why is it so hard to find guilds

[spice pecan]

not like ppl use guilds for anything anymore

besides funny tag in global

and like, GSF

[umbral crag]

Because guilds doesnt bring much benefits to most gamers

Only useful for leechers or ppl who needs some social aspect

[drowsy eagle]

well you can steal leftover magebloods at the end of the league

[sick sable]

i need someone to teach me game fr 😄

[spice pecan]

a guild probably wont do that

[umbral crag]

A guild definitely won't do that

In this game guild come tgt just for funny tags. Occasionally GSF or group play in league start.

[short prairie]

@split maple I still need to improve this https://pobb.in/nD96frCpLPc5

swap shied to foulborn for suppress, and ring for block chance

This is multi multi mirror

[umbral crag]

I need some mirrors my way too plesse

[spice pecan]

i too like having dreams

[short prairie]

Just want to make the most expensive version possible and then adjust gears according to budget

[sick sable]

i need to waste like 2 or 3 months to learn the game

[drowsy eagle]

2-3 years

[split maple]

the fuck is that

looks playable

[sick sable]

what

[short prairie]

I didn’t even synth them jewels yet

[spice pecan]

this is an affront to god

[short prairie]

Almost 1m max hit

Block will be improved too

Consistent charges

With resonating belt

[drowsy eagle]

I started playing since college, have 2 degrees now and I'm still learning the game

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

thank you global

[sick sable]

so i have to learn the game for years and im sure the moment i learn game fully there will be a poe 3

[spice pecan]

doesnt take years to learn the game

and we're all constantly learning anyway

you never really "finish" learning in this game

[split maple]

you can have fun day1

[whole bluff]

Your PhD can be early endgame before you look to become a professor in PoE

[split maple]

but its kinda lifelong learning game

everyday something new 😄

@short prairie multimirr pob indeed

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

uhm ackshuyally 8 quality is optimal

[split maple]

where is rage source

[spice pecan]

i saw rage on CI flicker on bloodscent cluster notable

[whole bluff]

It needs to last the right amount of ticks

[short prairie]

Look at impossible escape

[cold sable]

is this really his normal attack this shit laggedmy pc

[split maple]

Oh handy

[opal ingot]

ask his pob

[frigid wedge]

why minecraft dirt break sounds

[whole bluff]

Man, school was weird today. Don't let people overhear your discord name

[cold sable]

feinberg

oh it was projectile mod

gg ig

[tacit crow]

6 extra proj map mod overlapped his orbs

[frigid wedge]

i wonder if i can somehow force invention support to be worth it

like

its double aoe

for traps

hmm

a really terrible volatile sunblast sounds viable there

u get 60% on the 2 things

[tacit crow]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-divine-orb-divine-ups-loot-gif-24773433631004610

1 mirror away

from belt

[split maple]

hmm i see some folks using explo traps

and pretty much nothing else

[frigid wedge]

maybe i v vaal some sunblasts

[frigid wedge]

thats just every aoe trapper

is all explosive trap

i love that there isnt any elemental seismic trappers

[split palm]

Hi Sans

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[hoary scarab]

hi sans

[frigid wedge]

hi coooleen

im so confused why no one touches seismic trap

it lost 30% dps in 3.19 and has since had a minor buff

and no one plays it

im so lost

[mental nymph]

[frigid wedge]

what did they fucking lose

was it this???

i cant see it in any older pobs

[pulsar ice]

what belt? accel massive or somehting?

[hoary scarab]

a bunch of trap cooldown recovery

like 50% ish

[limpid prairie]

thats one hell of a cool jewel

the fuck

[tranquil sedge]

coated shrapnel was removed in 3.20, seis trap got the big dps nerf in 3.19

that build also lost cdr, changes to perfect crime in 3.21, and other stuff i forget

[opal ingot]

couldve bought my 37% qual writhing jar smhsmh

[tranquil sedge]

also explosive trap was buffed in 3.17 then again in 3.23

[opal ingot]

why wasn't it buffed in 3.28

[tranquil sedge]

kekw

[opal ingot]

oops

i mean 3.29

[limpid prairie]

tired of failing

[nova minnow]

why no shrine stacking guardians

[frigid wedge]

isnt most of that compensated by just allocating mix munit

considering yk

they already use a mine

[limpid prairie]

seen that
want a pob

[nova minnow]

hell ye

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/W4qQhjOD5tzv @split maple revised, gonna tweak more tmr, bedge

[nova minnow]

make some guy have like 5 shrines active 24/7

[hoary scarab]

no not really, annoying and conditional

[astral shadow]

cuz its bad

[nova minnow]

thats what non-divine shrine believers say :L

[frigid wedge]

please setup the precursors

[limpid prairie]

By Kroximatuz https://pobb.in/LcrWnnpaMtVO

[astral shadow]

budget phrecia ranger

[frigid wedge]

like

[nova minnow]

I wish there was like

[frigid wedge]

what are we using

[nova minnow]

a unique jewel that gave you pherica ascendencies

[astral shadow]

just play phrecia u get 100% shrine effect free and shrines perma

[short prairie]

They are setup, idk why it’s bugged

[nova minnow]

ew wtf is that manual cast sniper mark

[frigid wedge]

u gotta remove other shit urself

[short prairie]

Will do tmr ig

[hoary scarab]

precursors? like in poe2

[karmic gust]

how else are you casting marks on casters? :d

[nova minnow]

does mark on hit not work? ._.

idk i dont play casters

only flicker strike

[karmic gust]

nop

[nova minnow]

aw

[tranquil sedge]

btw

[limpid prairie]

could be lmao maybe he forgot to pob mark on hit

[tranquil sedge]

your earlier message about hitting mark effect breakpoint on deadeye

mark on hit 15% reduced effect prevented me hitting the 100% breakpoint

did i miss smth obvious

[karmic gust]

there is 20% on clusters i think

[frigid wedge]

tattoos time

[karmic gust]

or tattoos yea

[frigid wedge]

4% per tat

[tranquil sedge]

dont have passive points for a cluster

but i didnt know tattoos existed

thanks

4% increased Effect of your Marks
I c

[frigid wedge]

also mark on hit quality is mark effect

[tranquil sedge]

ya its already in a 4l

sniper/mark on hit/enhance lvl 4

i could reach 1.96x mark effect
ill try pob a tattoo later

[frigid wedge]

ik u lack normal passives but do you lack ascendancy passives

u can get 50 effect while elusive

from oshab

[tranquil sedge]

using 8/8 on deadeye atm

[frigid wedge]

tailwind far shot munitions focal?

this is sstot right

[tranquil sedge]

nah that was hong

im playing spectral throw dex stack

[frigid wedge]

oh right

[limpid prairie]

spicy

[tranquil sedge]

yea this is last build of the league for me

[frigid wedge]

btw why no points for cluster, what u spending on

could go megalo

[short prairie]

what are some other sources of spell block

[frigid wedge]

other than wut

[short prairie]

Than the pob I posted

45 rn need 30 more to cap

[tranquil sedge]

https://pobb.in/nC70eFZAx8-q

ignore these 2 nodes, im gonna be using a mageblood corrupted for res to rescap instead of these points, but this is planned pob

later i will try to redo pob to fit in spectres for grace and lucky lightning damage

and see if mark effect nodes are somehow reachable

but first i wanna get this up and running at least

[frigid wedge]

versatile combatant

[short prairie]

Maybe somehow I path down to bottom mid jewel slot and foulborn intuitive leap grab versatile ig

[frigid wedge]

was gonna suggest smth like an aerialist+hounds mark megalo

[short prairie]

Ultimately tho I still prefer 1m max hit I think

[tranquil sedge]

hmm

[frigid wedge]

5% dex 10% suppress 20% mark effect 20% inc damage with hits against marked

[tranquil sedge]

i will try pobing it

ty

[frigid wedge]

theres one on trade with a max res notable

for 1d

these 2 are the only ones sticking out 2 me tho

[tranquil sedge]

thats actually a nutty second megalo

heck

[nova minnow]

ok so apparently i don't have to play LCoTH, somehow reap gives more dmg

so LCoTH is a lie

[karmic gust]

well lc of heavens is not high dps skill

so that makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

can you buy that second one for me? im stuck in 5-ways atm

[frigid wedge]

reap mines is indeed effective

[karmic gust]

its clear skill

[short prairie]

There are some insane megalos ye

[nova minnow]

i mean i can use arc

[frigid wedge]

im sat on the floor about to leave and pc is off

unfortunately

[tranquil sedge]

no worries

[frigid wedge]

@tacit crow

[tranquil sedge]

@spice pecan u there?

edit: ignore it

[tacit crow]

kafka what

[short prairie]

I thought you are playing SST?

[frigid wedge]

grab a megalo for srev

[nova minnow]

I am

I ran out of divs

so i need to farm sirus agn

[tacit crow]

kafka at work

[nova minnow]

the build aint gonna pay for itself when it does only 4m dmg

[frigid wedge]

kafka work at home half the time

[tranquil sedge]

its ok ill just go get it in 20 minutes

listed 2 months ago

we'll be fine 😄

[short prairie]

4m damage sst is enough

[frigid wedge]

[tranquil sedge]

dex stack is really bad

its just tragic

[frigid wedge]

ive played it on vgyre

its not that bad

[tranquil sedge]

i mean i know im exaggerating a bit

like this aint gonna be some nonfunctional build

but dex is just weak

int stack got deserved nerfs yes but at least its still playable

str stack max hits are still questionable if u do anything but jugg, and even then investment is required

hybrid str/int goes hard sure, but also $$

[nova minnow]

this stick

[split maple]

Hey lossing dex is by far the most annoying part of omni

[nova minnow]

is amazing for int stack

[split maple]

97% hit chance

[frigid wedge]

oh hey look its the start of my dex stacker

[tranquil sedge]

its certainly strong

[limpid prairie]

The issue is your not clicking iron reflexes clearly

[tranquil sedge]

but you're also paying for it

[nova minnow]

yeah i paid like 200d for mine

[tranquil sedge]

yea

[frigid wedge]

bleh

[tranquil sedge]

int and str stack are justified by the cost

cost of str stack doesn't justify it

[nova minnow]

got it clean at like 85d then spent the rest on tempering

[tranquil sedge]

that reminds me

if u like connor videos, his latest one yday is a good watch, 10 min long, about why armor sucks in poe2 and nice in poe1

[short prairie]

Add a bob with toe lucky lightning

[frigid wedge]

I'm still doubtful that this is better than dual claw

[nova minnow]

bcoz there's no god damn life in poe2

[tranquil sedge]

that is not why

[nova minnow]

:c

[tranquil sedge]

thats a separate issue

valid, but separate

his argument was we have much easier access to %pdr in poe1 than in poe2

and given how armor scaling works in both games, bigger hits requiring substantionally more and more armor

[spice pecan]

i am not ignoring it

[short prairie]

Try on jugg instead

[tranquil sedge]

%pdr applying after armor works

[nova minnow]

wtf is pdr, all i have is stone golem of safe guarding

[tranquil sedge]

wanted u to grab the megalo if possible

the second one in sans' pic for 10d

[spice pecan]

ah

[frigid wedge]

proof?

[limpid prairie]

PDR are those red orbs that appear around you sometimes

[spice pecan]

did you get it?

[tranquil sedge]

no

i have 3 more 5-way runs to finish

[karmic gust]

poe1 def doesnt have easy access to pdr so if its even worrse in poe2 thats tragic

[nova minnow]

wtf why do i have 21%

rigged

I've been set up

[tranquil sedge]

relatively speaking much easier for us

[nova minnow]

oh wait endurance charges

[tranquil sedge]

endurance charges are the most obvious case

[tacit crow]

helmet sold for 450d

i love profit crafts

[spice pecan]

want me to pick it up for you?

[tranquil sedge]

yes please

[spice pecan]

kk

[frigid wedge]

so do you use heralds by chance

[frigid wedge]

thought it was gonna sell before u got home yesterday

[spice pecan]

got it, ping me whenever

[tacit crow]

it did not...

[tranquil sedge]

15 min

[tacit crow]

though my 400d ring did

now just a few more big items

[nova minnow]

https://pobb.in/SPUGiIE_4gn0

nah, no slots

[tacit crow]

that 2 mirror ring sells

im UP UP UP

[nova minnow]

shit i dont like how PoB handles updating when i import

sometimes passives be left there even when they shouldnt

[tranquil sedge]

pure pdr

• endurance charges (which have so many ways to generate depending on build) - plus increasing max endurance charges
• pdr on str or hybrid str armor
• pantheons

and then layer a bit of damage conversion or less damage taken or other sources of damage reduction and stuff

useful levels of armor can be attained

[nova minnow]

poggers

[short prairie]

Does it have to be deadeye or can be jugg too, ig tree is gonna be messed up but feels like dex accuracy can help a bit

[karmic gust]

realistically for 99% of builds you arent getting more than 15% consistent pdr

in poe1

outside of armourr ofc

[tranquil sedge]

oh also

• watcher's eye %pdr while determ

[tacit crow]

@frigid wedge question

[split maple]

thats like 4 enduros tho

[karmic gust]

but if you have armor bases and are armour builld then yes

[tranquil sedge]

ya but its relatively easy to get that

[nova minnow]

yeah but aside from armor you got arctic armor, flesh and stone

[split maple]

and like if you cant get more enduros you dont go armour

[karmic gust]

yea and therre is no other source

[tranquil sedge]

on poe2 even that is not easy to get

[karmic gust]

that builds can normally get

[tacit crow]

do i got for a 3pos simplex OR 3x 1p voices and foulborn unnatural

your call

[split maple]

and the point is there that armour is good for builds that have easy access to pdr

[tacit crow]

multiple mirrors either way

[split maple]

not that pdr is easy in general

or did i miss smh?

[tranquil sedge]

i have no idea, pob doesn't really show my dps increase when i use dual claw

[tacit crow]

and idk what i want first

[tranquil sedge]

sec

[frigid wedge]

you go for belt

[tranquil sedge]

^ my wording

[tacit crow]

yea im like half a mirror away

im talking for next upgrade

[karmic gust]

did not watched the vid was just reacting to pdr accessibility :d

because they turbo gutted it in poe1

[split maple]

gonna parse that that armor builds in poe1 get easier pdr in addition to armor than in poe2

[tranquil sedge]

ye nws

[tacit crow]

either more cast speed or more maxlife

[frigid wedge]

idek wat build this for atp

[tranquil sedge]

yes

that was the whole argument connor made

[split maple]

not that pdr in general is accessible

[karmic gust]

does poe2 not have pdr on items?

[spice pecan]

it does

[tranquil sedge]

has on shield and body i think

[spice pecan]

kinda

[tranquil sedge]

idk other sources

[spice pecan]

str base body armor, shield, and there's a unique helm

[tranquil sedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj1fNvbl5H4

ok i just linked the video

ppl can watch its 10 min

[frigid wedge]

lightning as extra chaos on mail instead of ur fracture and then compare shield to dual claw

[karmic gust]

so just missing endus then i guess

[split maple]

yeah and like thats 7-10*4% pdr

[tranquil sedge]

body armor aside
is dual claw even more dps

[short prairie]

Armor doesn’t help with phys dots btw

[tranquil sedge]

3-10*

and tending towards the lower end for most ppl

[split maple]

if you go armour with 3 charges

you have issue

[nova minnow]

i hate that part

[tranquil sedge]

also true

[scarlet horizon]

Is it common to have sacred grove to be outside the mirage?

[tranquil sedge]

happens sometimes

[nova minnow]

low pool, ignite/bleed/corrupt/poo poo chaos ground hits me hard

[tranquil sedge]

mirage likes to spawn near mechanics

you cannot block ALL mechanics

[nova minnow]

[tranquil sedge]

specifically essence and strongbox - no way to block

so sometimes u just get fucked

[frigid wedge]

most of dps on ur shield is the non as extra

[karmic gust]

majority of arrmour builds are not gonna have more than 5 endus that arent slayer or jugg really

[short prairie]

U a bosser aren’t you? No need defenses

[scarlet horizon]

Yee i do get 1/5 maps no sacred in mirage

[split maple]

yes

[nova minnow]

oh no, this is my SST

[tranquil sedge]

ow

[karmic gust]

and you have 5 only because you path right next to 2

[nova minnow]

it aint bossing nuuuthing

[short prairie]

Oh F

[karmic gust]

(and hopefully arent skipping those xd)

[nova minnow]

eventually i'll have 3k life, but im kinda short on divs

[split maple]

so what build that isnt armourstacker is justified going armour that isnt slayer or juggie

[tranquil sedge]

yea but having that easy endurance charge pdr

which applies after armor
is wat makes it stronger, is wat he said

[split maple]

like even bers goes str+dex hybrid

[frigid wedge]

fourth vow

:3

so

lacerate of butchering

[karmic gust]

fourth vow just sucks tho

[tranquil sedge]

having low 5 digit armor is still nice

[karmic gust]

just equip doppel

[tranquil sedge]

if u can get it somehow

[karmic gust]

no armour needed

[tranquil sedge]

armor on champ aint bad

or hybrid armor/ev champs

or some on pathfinder

[spice pecan]

eldritch implicits on chest are often too good to pass up

[nova minnow]

Armor guardian?

[spice pecan]

if you're guardian you're almost certainly CI

[tranquil sedge]

dunno if witch builds rly use armor

[nova minnow]

they give u armor

[karmic gust]

uh i was comparing fourth vow

[nova minnow]

only those that use offerings to self buff an attack skill i think

[spice pecan]

oh mb

[karmic gust]

the eldritch implicits also arent rly that important wth current bases

its the explicis that are :d

[frigid wedge]

i feel like unless ur es ur always better going hybrid tho, like, ur picking between tiny bit extra eva or ar to literally having a second mitigation

[karmic gust]

when you can just slap on 1.3k es chest on life build with 0 downsides then might as well d it

[tacit crow]

it's laughing at me

i can see it

[nova minnow]

Templar is the only one that can handle chaos dmg differently tho

so strong

[karmic gust]

but also majority of builds in this game die to phys and not ele i bet

so doppel still prertty good

[short prairie]

The average slayer has like 12-16 endurance charges

[tranquil sedge]

'average'

no

[spice pecan]

aren't these FFs like, extremely expensive

[tranquil sedge]

they definitely dont

[nova minnow]

yeah

[karmic gust]

what kind of averrage is that

lul

[nova minnow]

but templar jiquanni int stackers are going that

coz u cant go CI with it

[tranquil sedge]

if u have 12+ charges ur probably mirror build

[dense rock]

average is like 8, aint it? 😄

[karmic gust]

on slayer?

[nova minnow]

either that or they go foulborn ghostwrithe

[karmic gust]

sounds about right

[nova minnow]

but if you're rich, you go the es int stack chest

and run that FF/FF

coz reduced dmg per % int stronk

[short prairie]

What

[tranquil sedge]

yes

[split maple]

slayer you get 7 for free, everything above is gear

so 1 from boot slot, 1 from glove slot

more is spendy

[karmic gust]

idk if i would count boot slot

[nova minnow]

2 - 3 rings since all the salyers now go accel belt or smth

[karmic gust]

theres no way you are wearing darkrays

[tranquil sedge]

wouldn't count boot slot either unless ur flicker

[dense rock]

Average slayer aint reaching red tier maps 😄

[split maple]

i am giving senses benefit of doubt

[short prairie]

Resonating +1 sublime +1

Ring +3

Shield +1

[tranquil sedge]

one ring is already expensive

[nova minnow]

you just kalandra touch

[tranquil sedge]

second ring is double that

yea if you want 3 rings, you need 2 bases

[nova minnow]

its ok ur flicker with 2bil dmg

[short prairie]

Isn’t it like 200d for a vanilla frenzy ring

[tranquil sedge]

that was month 1 prices

its twice that now i think

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

and earlier in league mirrror was cheaper too

[nova minnow]

idk, power charge ring be like 1 mirror

[tranquil sedge]

so its like a wash

[nova minnow]

i cant afford one

[tranquil sedge]

if ur like 8-9, maybe 10 charges that is average, senses

any more and ur big boi money

[karmic gust]

even if it was 200d thats already mirror build with 2 of those shield and sublime lul

[dense rock]

people in here and reddit have such a twisted image of what average player does 😄

[tranquil sedge]

also that

[tranquil sedge]

but also

[tranquil sedge]

this is an idiot take

[split maple]

surely senses meant average ssf player

[karmic gust]

doing that wouldnt even make you good build

[tranquil sedge]

or just bait statement

[karmic gust]

even if you had currency

like theres no way sublime is worth

[dense rock]

AVERAGE player doesnt have 25divs in his gear in total before he quits the league

[karmic gust]

there

[short prairie]

Average ssf slayer has 10 charges

Like me

[split maple]

wait where is the 3rd one from

belt or sword?

[short prairie]

Belt

[split maple]

got your slayer done ingame yet?

[short prairie]

Ye somewhat

[split maple]

show 😄

[short prairie]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/miragessf/character/Senses-4368/SensesThirteenLink?i=23&search=sort%3Ddps

Average ssf slayer here

[tranquil sedge]

we all fell for the bait

[dense rock]

that sword alone is average players budget for 5+ leagues

[limpid prairie]

imma show you why you always gamble

perfect ID for sure

[split palm]

why is it

[split maple]

divine that watcher :uhm:

[tranquil sedge]

this shape is sus

[split palm]

like that

in that shape

[tranquil sedge]

[somber sundial]

I gambled 2 apothecary cards

I’m now 50d less rich

[short prairie]

I will

[limpid prairie]

divine or not? First time with a progenesis

[split palm]

sell, buy better

[somber sundial]

How much did you buy it for, also pretty

[karmic gust]

thats alraedy pretty good roll

[tranquil sedge]

looks fine to me

just use it

[split palm]

but it is a decent roll

[tranquil sedge]

as long as charges per use is 32 or less
and duration is like mid roll above 0
good enough

[short prairie]

Also I have no replica farruls

[somber sundial]

Use ralakesh

[limpid prairie]

Ohh i see

lets see if it make immortal as promised

[somber sundial]

It make you much more tanky

[short prairie]

Ralakesh no endur

[split maple]

how tf are you just #3 by dps

[somber sundial]

Sadface

[karmic gust]

needs 1k less life for more damage

[short prairie]

Cuz poeninja doesn’t toggle frozen for heatshiver

[karmic gust]

obviously

[split maple]

now that reminds me

[split palm]

excuses

[split maple]

where corrupt

[karmic gust]

doesnt the first one also use heatshiver

[tranquil sedge]

this is the real tragedy

[short prairie]

Poof?

[split maple]

tbf its ssf

[short prairie]

[split maple]

i can forgive that

now no fancy heatshiver

[somber sundial]

What is the benefit of this weapon over a claw with same mods

[split maple]

thats sin

[tranquil sedge]

read implicit

[somber sundial]

I know, but isn’t hits cannot be evaded better

[short prairie]

Locus poofed all of my hearshivers

I cant do anything about it

[tranquil sedge]

what does that have to do with claw

that aint a mod exclusive to claws

[split maple]

cant you volatile vaal heatshiver

[short prairie]

I can try

[split palm]

xddd

[tranquil sedge]

he also has almost 4k accuracy
good enough

[somber sundial]

What I meant to say, was, why not a 11L claw with hits cannot be evaded, but the 100% phys convert to random element is that good?

[tranquil sedge]

the whole point of the sword

[somber sundial]

Ah

[tranquil sedge]

is the implicit

and again

[somber sundial]

Oh

[tranquil sedge]

this has nothing to do with the claw

hits cannot be evaded isn't restricted to claws

[somber sundial]

I know

I just like the implicit claws have

[short prairie]

Why u gonna roast me like that

[tranquil sedge]

someone has to 😄

[somber sundial]

Life gain on hit make build feel nice

[tranquil sedge]

its a slayer

you have lots of leech and overleech

and u can get lgoh if u rly want

somewhere on tree or watcher's eye or whatever

[somber sundial]

Yeah same but I only survive simmy if I have life gain on hit

[split maple]

is it tho

[somber sundial]

[split maple]

like its just the sword with best aps/crit

[tranquil sedge]

rly?

implicit not important?

[delicate pulsar]

is there a distribution of wealth chart per league anywhere?
like how many players play through a league wiht only 1-10 div total currency etc

[tranquil sedge]

nope
not afaik

[short prairie]

The first uses echo belt frenzy ring gull the luckiest guy alive (also uses ambush)

[somber sundial]

It nice but that base having good aps and crit make sense, I mean look at solarine bow vs spine bow for ele hit of spectrum builds

[short prairie]

Also idk why ninja doesn’t give me 30 rage, I have rage on hit with lethal pride

[somber sundial]

Do you have admirals

[delicate pulsar]

thought so, dont see how one could collect that information so i asked x(

[somber sundial]

Admirals arrogance

[short prairie]

No, ninja gives rage with 1 rage on hit

[split maple]

real reason for sword vs claw is smite btw

smite cannot into claw

and its a lot of dmg

[short prairie]

Just doesn’t apply to lethal pride rage on hit for some reason

[tranquil sedge]

smite?

wot smite

oh

[split maple]

smite for the aura

[tranquil sedge]

ewww

[somber sundial]

The bigger point of my question was, if you only have rage on hit from lethal pride, how are you generating enough rage for it to be impactful

[tranquil sedge]

i had to do that once for spark in 3.20

i hated it

so much

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[somber sundial]

Me realizing that I can drop rage on hit on my Lethal Pride bc of bloodline ascendancy

[short prairie]

I know but I get 0 rage there

[split maple]

1 rage on hit should be enough for full uptime on this kinda build no

[somber sundial]

Uh

[split maple]

like its pretty much only issue on bows/wands if you got less

[somber sundial]

Ah

[short prairie]

Don’t tell me you are on oshabi

Oshabi admirals?

Like you will not get max rage ever

[somber sundial]

Oh I am

[somber sundial]

Yes I know

I have 60 rage that I’m not using lol

[short prairie]

Idk how ggg can fix that rage node from oshabi ascendancy

[somber sundial]

Make it so you sacrifice a portion of rage to gain wild savagery, not sacrifice all of it

[short prairie]

Like I think the only one using it is hawtchoccy rn

[somber sundial]

I’m using wild bear

[tranquil sedge]

lol
@frigid wedge i just realized i have no free jewel sockets

gonna stash the megalo for now, if i find a use for it later cool 😄

[somber sundial]

You must find additional jewel socket

[tranquil sedge]

mfw i wish i could do that

[somber sundial]

Mfw I know you can, if I can find additional jewel socket on my build, I know you can too

Drop life nodes

Use res tattoos

[short prairie]

Time to bring out the 5p voices

[somber sundial]

You must finddddd it

[tranquil sedge]

also just realized for hounds mark to hit a 100% increased mark effect breakpoint i need to get mark effect nodes on tree to go with it and i was already point short

[somber sundial]

!

[tranquil sedge]

still hmm

[somber sundial]

200% inc mark effect is

Uh

A lot

[tranquil sedge]

sorry

100% increased* i mean, total 200% effect

[somber sundial]

Oh

Still a lot

[short prairie]

Mark effect scaling is that that great isn’t it?

[split maple]

<@&174997701513969665>

[gentle chasm]

[short prairie]

[split palm]

should have told him to invest into deez

[split maple]

i actually wanted to report senses there not that nice lady

[short prairie]

Then he will ask what are deez

[short prairie]

???

I’m like, 2000% innocent

[spice pecan]

owned

[split palm]

lie

[somber sundial]

My name is deez
Deez what sir
sad emotional music

[karmic gust]

depeends on mark, snipers mark has beakpoints

[tacit crow]

dont...

[karmic gust]

but also hounds mark is quite a lot of daage in general

for any build that uses marks

[short prairie]

What does breakpoint do for snipers

Chain one more?

[karmic gust]

extra split

[tranquil sedge]

^

[nova minnow]

s-s-s-shot gun

[short prairie]

Oh I need to sleep

[somber sundial]

Shotgun

Where

[tranquil sedge]

extra split means extra projectile that could potentially have the right speed to hit the target again

[short prairie]

I said chain instead of split

[tranquil sedge]

so more single target too

[somber sundial]

Hand over gods most beloved instrument

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bed-daniel-labelle-jump-in-bed-sleep-sleep-time-gif-11760630252958199935

[nova minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5jdS68J2mc

[tranquil sedge]

ok there might be some way to fit in that megalo with a 1p voices at some point

maybe if i respec for spectres at the same time too might be able to adjust tree more?

project for future srev

[somber sundial]

[frigid wedge]

what u up to with urs

esm has been helping me brainstorm my awful project char xD

[cedar notch]

Damn I hated trading but seeing those delicious armors I need for like only 1 chaos orbs is tempting lol

[frigid wedge]

are u still just running harvest

[tranquil sedge]

its still good so sometimes

but i wanna try deli again on this build

[somber sundial]

I found a way to get an additional jewel socket and 40m more damage, but I need 11L claw setup

[frigid wedge]

what else are u running

for currency

[tranquil sedge]

5x delirium orb stacked decks

[frigid wedge]

like, with cloister scarabs or

[somber sundial]

11Link claw will fix my crit, so I can drop crit wheel for 3 points, move tree a little, drop 1 life node, then I gain additional jewel socket

[tranquil sedge]

5x diviner orbs

with deli and packsize and awakening scarab

it was a fun diversion on my msoz but worse div/hr

coz i didnt have good clear

so maps were taking waaay too long

[frigid wedge]

ah right

i dont think i have the dps for it

bc yk

[tranquil sedge]

i wanna try that again on this build

[frigid wedge]

awakening

[somber sundial]

! Very good

[tranquil sedge]

and then also some pandemonium farm

[frigid wedge]

whats done the best so far

still harvest?

[limpid prairie]

What killed me today

[drowsy eagle]

death

[limpid prairie]

Well death is an unresonable lady!

[native abyss]

looks like you ran out of life

[limpid prairie]

Oh shit! time to wear a Kaoms heart over my kaoms heart

[copper vale]

what will kill me tomorrow

[marsh aspen]

Good people. What is a must try build for this season

[frigid wedge]

what counts as a must try

minion pact bv is going to die in a horrible fire once the league ends

[marsh aspen]

Something yall find fun/op.

[frigid wedge]

and i imagine anything reliant on screams of the dessicated will be gone

[nova minnow]

https://pobb.in/arR7ubMvGp0y
holy shit this cost so much just to do 10m dps

wait and its not even real

i gotta get rid of the shock

coz i changed my dmg type

[covert swan]

Please answer these questions so we can help suggest a build for you:

• What are you looking for, and what content do you want to do with it?
• What sort of build do you usually enjoy, and what have you played recently?
• What is a must-have in a build for you?
• Is there any deal-breakers in a build for you (pressing a flask/indigon etc)?
• What sort of budget do you have?

[nova minnow]

bahaha, now it does 6.8m

[frigid wedge]

can you like

explain the thought process with these clusters

for armoustacker

[nova minnow]

atk speed good. aura effect good

[frigid wedge]

minion pact blade vortex is op, and will be dead next league, but its relatively anti qol

[frigid wedge]

why not voices and reservation smalls

[nova minnow]

i am poor

[frigid wedge]

also do me a favour and

add vaal smite

[nova minnow]

noooo

[frigid wedge]

why

[somber sundial]

Why no Vaal smite

[frigid wedge]

its a ton of flat and u can use it ranged

[somber sundial]

It is literally part of armour stacker

[spice pecan]

vaal smite goated

i am NOT BIASED

[nova minnow]

wdym smite is ranged

[frigid wedge]

vaal smite

[spice pecan]

you press the button and it hits the entire screen

[frigid wedge]

hits like fullscreeb

[somber sundial]

Hook Empower up to it

And more duration

[spice pecan]

either empower or march of the legion

or both tbh

[somber sundial]

Both

[frigid wedge]

it will cost like

[split maple]

both

[frigid wedge]

1 point

[split maple]

and double corrupted march

[nova minnow]

7m lets gooo

[somber sundial]

AoE and aura gems

What is it like +9

[frigid wedge]

yes

[somber sundial]

Without empower

Then 12 with it

Or no

[frigid wedge]

Hong are u gonna be on in
checks watch
6 hours

[nova minnow]

no im sleep

[spice pecan]

you can get +9 motl boots for vaal smite iirc

so yeah

level 33 on a 21 gem base is the cap from just boot links

[somber sundial]

Then empower

[opal ingot]

cant play

[frigid wedge]

u selling the left ventricle of ur heart?

[somber sundial]

That’s a lot of levels

[opal ingot]

woops old message

[spice pecan]

i'm not, someone else may tho

[frigid wedge]

hi sage

[spice pecan]

+8 lightning focused amulet for level 40+1

[opal ingot]

hi

[split maple]

+7 is gsf viable

[somber sundial]

Too bad gems only go to 40

[frigid wedge]

Hong what is ur thoughts in ci

[spice pecan]

thats why i said 40+1

[opal ingot]

i think ci is cringe

unless you use whispers

[somber sundial]

Oh

[opal ingot]

then you get a pass

[frigid wedge]

why specifically whispers

[somber sundial]

Ci is never cringe

And they killed whispers

[nova minnow]

lmao i mean if the build doesnt work im automatically buying an es chest and changing to basic ass armor stacker smiter and calling SST a bad skeel

[opal ingot]

its like putting lifetap on all your skills

estap

[split maple]

how was whispers kill

[frigid wedge]

removing some flat es does not kill a build enabling item dear

[somber sundial]

Oh

[spice pecan]

whispers is still busted lol

[somber sundial]

[spice pecan]

it having what 400 or 500 flat es before was disgusting

[somber sundial]

It was

Now it’s like

100 or something

[frigid wedge]

actually im offering to pob it for u

[opal ingot]

i thought whispers got a 3.28 change

dont say volatile vaal

[frigid wedge]

pat pat

[somber sundial]

[nova minnow]

SST enjoyer

[frigid wedge]

i literally have a half made pob for sst accuracy stacker from 2 leagues ago before i realised u cant get abyss flat

ACTUALLY

u could maybe int acc stack and run shattering

i wonder if i can dig out that pob actually

u might be able to do something with it

[somber sundial]

Int/acc stack vs str stack vs armour stack

Vs tornado shot in it’s prime

[frigid wedge]

https://pobb.in/d0jAnK7sMqm8
this is obviously not a good pob but the idea is there

[somber sundial]

Just wanna put this out there, ggg nerfing splitting steel so that proj cannot return is a war crime

[spice pecan]

it is

they killed splitting steel because of the sins of LS

[somber sundial]

Fucking really

That’s cruel

[spice pecan]

and then gave LS a slap on the wrist

[frigid wedge]

if i tried hard enough i could get 10m outta this

[somber sundial]

[spice pecan]

yeah, after 3.25 was when they gutted splitting steel

meanwhile LS got a 50% nerf to the proj damage lol

[somber sundial]

It truly did not deserve the nerf

I wanted to make a splitting steel build one day

[spice pecan]

i think they were worried that ppl would just play LS again but use splitting steel instead

because the two builds were basically the same

LS had better single target, SS better clear

[somber sundial]

Well they killed both splitting steel and trickster

So

[spice pecan]

LS was most popular on slayer iirc

[frigid wedge]

tbf u can make it still its just gonna be bad

[spice pecan]

or it was equally slayer and trickster

[somber sundial]

[frigid wedge]

show me ur stabby

[somber sundial]

Slayer near start of league, trickster when people got money

[somber sundial]

My stabby

Whar

[frigid wedge]

fros blades

i wanna see the pob

[somber sundial]

Uhh

Sec

[frigid wedge]

also i tried splitting steel in settlers

it felt like shit with nimis

[spice pecan]

yeah you used return proj iirc

[somber sundial]

https://pobb.in/HahvMSmqQ9vU

[frigid wedge]

the tricksters lacked the space

[frigid wedge]

fun fact, there are triple frenzy charge manifolds on standard

[spice pecan]

probably needed way more aps then idk

[somber sundial]

They cost more than my build does

[frigid wedge]

[somber sundial]

[frigid wedge]

isn't there a mirror ring with explicit frenzy

[somber sundial]

Uhh

[frigid wedge]

thatd already be better

[somber sundial]

I’m wearing a mirror ring with frenzy implicit but there is legacy mirror rings with it as a explicit mod I think

Or just a prefix/suffix mod

Idk

They’re like 3+ mirrors last I checked

[frigid wedge]

theres legacy ones still up for mirror service with implicit and explicit frenzy

[somber sundial]

Does it have added cold per frenzy or aspect of the spider

[frigid wedge]

probably

[somber sundial]

I think the +3 is a little out of price range unfortunately

[frigid wedge]

also arent there legacy frenzy ralakesh

[somber sundial]

Uhhh

I’ll check but I don’t think so

There’s darkray vectors with that tho

[frigid wedge]

oh right yeah

bc ralakesh got changed

[spice pecan]

i still cant believe that there aren't any better boots for flicker

[frigid wedge]

too recently

[spice pecan]

than a 1c day 1 unique

[somber sundial]

Okay it exists

[frigid wedge]

tbf thats bc flicker is zhp

[spice pecan]

wtf

[somber sundial]

If only

[frigid wedge]

im curious how this exists, because ralakesh got changed in settlers but the implicit didnt exist anymore

wait

ohhhhh

[somber sundial]

No idea either but i dont think he will sell it

[frigid wedge]

no I figured it out

[somber sundial]

Wha happuh

[thin ocean]

beastlock mythic on a super old base i guess

[frigid wedge]

he had legacy frenzy ones and tainted mythic orbed into ralakesh

[somber sundial]

Ohhhh

That crazy holy

[spice pecan]

sheesh

[frigid wedge]

during settlers

[somber sundial]

Wait that gain frenzy, power or endurance looks good

I could drop endurance implicit on my body armour

[spice pecan]

yeah legacy ralakesh boots were fun

[somber sundial]

I need them

Also why the hell isn’t there any arns anguish on trade with double implicit of ele res and another mod

Driving me crazy

Fuck I need a better arn’s anguish anyway

THIS BUILD NEVER ENDS

Might as well buy a 11L claw with fucking crucible tree

[spice pecan]

why are we playing standard

besides buying alt arts

[frigid wedge]

vaal them

when drop

no one bothers to dc

xD

[spice pecan]

good thing there's no reason to run normal maven anymore

[dark kite]

bruh who the hell is buying out shaper's orbs to the point that theyre a div each

[somber sundial]

Because I wanted to improve frost blade build so it wouldn’t ever die or struggle

[covert ferry]

Because you don't have to measure your challenge and success experience by a trade league. You can do your own fresh start twink leveling!

[spice pecan]

what does twink levelling have to do with looking for mirror legacy items

[covert ferry]

Even better twinkling than you can get in the league!

[somber sundial]

Bc when I was farming essences, if it killed my giga movement speed ehots, I’d bring in frost blades, and one time, an essence monster gave me trouble

[spice pecan]

am i having a stroke?

[somber sundial]

Now the frost blades build is a big fucking monster who shouts bollocks and everything dies

[spice pecan]

i personally don't do essences except on builds that have like actual single target

[covert ferry]

I ran four or five speed twink leveling runs with legacy relicash boots and pendants brand of dissipation before the nerves. Was so fun

[spice pecan]

wtf

did i just read

[somber sundial]

Elemental hit of the spectrum has single target doesn’t it

[frigid wedge]

i need to know when the fuck this is bis

[split maple]

sorry sir

its penis brand

not pendants

[spice pecan]

and relicanth boots

[frigid wedge]

other than discharge without badge

[somber sundial]

Uh

[spice pecan]

discharge ring

[covert ferry]

Voice to text, can't be bothered to correct it LOL

[spice pecan]

but i guess discharge only cares about max power

[frigid wedge]

ye but discharge bis is badge

[split maple]

okay i can understand someone doing twink runs in standard for fun not bothering to correct voice chat

[somber sundial]

Essence is good when you have like 400 movement speed and have enough single target to burst them down in 5 seconds

[spice pecan]

100 deli essence beasts gives me nightmares

[somber sundial]

Which is what my giga movement speed ele hit of spectrum build do

[split maple]

my life got exponentially better when i realized you can harvest swap desolations to horrors

[spice pecan]

i mean its still a bow build

[split maple]

now i kinda like essences

[hazy roost]

your essence monsters survive 5 whole seconds?

[spice pecan]

bow builds still gonna get clapped by essence mobs regularly

definitely wouldnt pick bows for essence farming

[somber sundial]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/standard/character/HawtChoccy-5276/TheNewMillennium?i=0&search=name%3DThene

[frigid wedge]

u should make a 90 charge discharge

[somber sundial]

Not when they can’t hit me

[somber sundial]

Uh

[frigid wedge]

can i see a video

[frigid wedge]

sup

[spice pecan]

2m dps and 3k phys max hit, uh

[somber sundial]

Yea here I’ll show you funny one

[spice pecan]

yeah i mean i can see whats happening

[split maple]

hmm no hh to ramp up after killing first two esses too

[spice pecan]

how fast do you move once a mob hits you

[frigid wedge]

where is most of ur ms from? tats

[somber sundial]

Same speed

[spice pecan]

queen of the forest

[somber sundial]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/standard/character/HawtChoccy-5276/TheNewMillennium?i=0&search=name%3DThene

[opal ingot]

cheat engine set game speed to x2

[frigid wedge]

im seeing 600 and not 600ms worth of items

[somber sundial]

Mageblood, Qotf, hyrri truth implicit, haste, A LOT of movement speed tattoos and movement nodes on tree

[frigid wedge]

ye ig so

[somber sundial]

I also have a lot of flask effect

I think I have 130% inc flask effect

[spice pecan]

why not do breach or legion instead

since you know, bow build

[somber sundial]

Build is actually very very squishy

[spice pecan]

oh believe me i can tell

[somber sundial]

Evasion keeps me alive

[spice pecan]

i would do breach and legion 100000% before i would do essences if i know my build is squishy

just sayin xdd

[somber sundial]

I do essences in low tier maps