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[cobalt blade]

recoup

[cold sable]

meow...

[whole bluff]

rawr

[cobalt blade]

meow :3

[cold sable]

im so short on points tho

cuz

i need whispers of doom

[cobalt blade]

a single point there is still absurd recovery

[short prairie]

[whole bluff]

whiskers of doom 🐱

[cold sable]

fr

[spice pecan]

[short prairie]

[cobalt blade]

i mean its true

if anything gets past your wardpool you do kinda just die

[whole bluff]

get dot immortal from recoup and having more life than any dot does in 1 tick, then ward as actual pool that resets on getting hit

[cobalt blade]

also secondary thing

repath your cluster jewel like this

it adds more split personality pathing for the same amount of points used

[whole bluff]

definitely as soon as stuff gets past your ward youre screwed

[short prairie]

Yes, that leech has no use

[cobalt blade]

small upgrade but an upgrade nonetheless

[short prairie]

Also I was trying to work his logic out

[onyx adder]

I dont mind doryani early its cheap damage in softcore

[finite quail]

INSANE UPGRADE

[cobalt blade]

i just hate dying because a manasiphoner decided to spawn under you with a circle that hasnt loaded in

[spice pecan]

like i said earlier, it's actually egregious when it's the fucking wurm mobs that burrow

[onyx adder]

Theres like 10 regular posters in here that think flicker is a real skill, compared to that the occasional death to lightning donut is fine

[cobalt blade]

YEP

[spice pecan]

and then they come up and you die to mana siphon before the donut even renders

[finite quail]

wooo new 5link body

[cobalt blade]

flicker bad

[finite quail]

550 more es

[short prairie]

transcendence doesn’t work with dots right since armor doesn’t apply to phys dots as well

[finite quail]

from 2.2k to 2.76k

[cobalt blade]

correct

but you need to get pdr for transcendance to be viable so you mitigate phys dots anyway

[spice pecan]

flicker bad

also congrats on the xbox tag

[finite quail]

sad tho I had just gotten passive frenzy charge generation

[short prairie]

f still can’t solve the doryani weak to lightning dots thing

Unless taken as fire or cold

[cobalt blade]

oh you mean for that

the actual route to solve it is running GV or rakiata without going full conversion and its fine

since its treated as a 0 res dot on you

so negating half of it you more or less can live

[short prairie]

Ye I saw a guy with transcendence and doryanis https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/chami1997-5120/Mirage_Sami?i=0&search=items%3DDoryani%2527s%2BPrototype%26keypassives%3DTranscendence

[cobalt blade]

this build hurts my head

[short prairie]

The most common way is taken as fire and with divine flesh

[cobalt blade]

poi sublime but dawnbreaker and uncapped fire res

[spice pecan]

[cobalt blade]

and its not full converting an element

so it just doesnt have mitigation really

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

did they like read some build guide and just grab any sublime vision

[cobalt blade]

its also not even good -lightning res

[hidden willow]

if only there was a quick way to scrap everything

[short prairie]

Meme museum worthy?

[cobalt blade]

wait its even worse

they have crafted lightning res

on two toned lightning res boots

aaaaaa

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

TWO TONED BOOTS

LMAO

[short prairie]

I thought he was cooking something

[cobalt blade]

they also have stormshroud and not using the foulborn one that removes the +lightning res

[hidden willow]

ive got that many remove only folders its bloody annoying

[cobalt blade]

but thats somewhat excusable

[short prairie]

I’m gonna try this build next league

Jk

[cobalt blade]

wait i looked more it gets worse

[tranquil sedge]

my second most favorite craft all league i think

3 mod suffix recomb into lock suffix reforge chaos for chaos res

gonna exalt slam for t1 life and the ring's done

[cobalt blade]

i dont understand how they get to 100 without like considering any of this

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-have-mercy-bust-ellipsis-gif-8825169663929501426

[cold sable]

uhhhggg

[tranquil sedge]

ngl that font goes hard

[heady cliff]

done to get 5 misted, right?

[spice pecan]

I actually met Leslie before he died, such a sweet and funny guy

[finite quail]

I'm hard

[tranquil sedge]

totally
-# its influenced

[heady cliff]

F, cant even gamba

[tranquil sedge]

gives it a old school arpg/game vibe

i rly like it

[short prairie]

Whetstones 3 of them

[alpine lava]

Ruthless tink

[finite quail]

Omg and a golden volatile with 2 nearby breaches

[short prairie]

Why your emotes so horny

[finite quail]

because potential upgrades and lots of gold for more potential upgrades

I LIVE for this shit

[spice pecan]

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[rancid sluice]

that better be ranch

[vocal tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-think-it-is-darling-arthur-broussard-mid-century-modern-i-disagree-dear-i-don't-believe-that's-the-case-gif-5295778483097108778

[cold sable]

fuccccck

i found a timeless jewel equally as efficient for 200d less

after i already bought mine

[tranquil sedge]

after buying the more expensive one?

hell yeah

[cold sable]

gg

[tranquil sedge]

when was the cheaper one listed

[cold sable]

there is a jewel i can get that incorperates recoup

[tranquil sedge]

before or after u bought urs?

[cold sable]

6 days ago 💀

[tranquil sedge]

F

[cold sable]

its ok

i will just try ti sell mine while im not playing

if it sells then ggez

[onyx adder]

Thanks

[finite quail]

[onyx adder]

Every time i see progress of this journey i want to give u a hug

Have a hug sir

🫂

[finite quail]

thats not even progres tho

that aint for me

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[onyx adder]

Bro rejecting my hugs

[finite quail]

I dont take hugs from strangers

https://tenor.com/view/golden-retriever-walking-away-meme-dogs-tiktok-gif-2186310893419586062

[onyx adder]

Im not a stranger im a friend with the best taste in hentai

Smh

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-whar-erm-whar-confused-cat-huh-what-gif-4052880542927116908

[tranquil sedge]

@spice pecan

[spice pecan]

10 mod jewel jfc

[tranquil sedge]

im not crit capped so the crit chance is unironically good, it caps me

ailment and proj damage are freebies

[spice pecan]

we take those

that's a jewel for sure

[tranquil sedge]

ya 😄

there was one listed at 600d

that got relisted at 450d

[onyx adder]

Are u dex stacking

In 2026

[tranquil sedge]

and now i checked trade and a second guy made a 120d listing

[onyx adder]

What is this

[tranquil sedge]

thats wat i bought

[cobalt blade]

that one dex node bothers me for no logical reason

[tranquil sedge]

lmao

[tranquil sedge]

just to say i did it

[cobalt blade]

it just looks bad with the ring

[onyx adder]

Its because 99% of the time u path top

[cobalt blade]

yeah probably

[spice pecan]

how do ppl typically get 100% of ele taken as cold btw

poi sublime + taste of hate + watchers + ???

[karmic gust]

watchers

and thats it

[cobalt blade]

poi sublime watchers eye and doing half chaos instead of all cold

from glorious vanity

[spice pecan]

CI, can't use glorious vanity right

[cobalt blade]

otherwise taste of hate but thats hits only

[spice pecan]

hmm

[karmic gust]

hits only is plenty

[cobalt blade]

ye ci is why pof is so much stronger

[spice pecan]

yeah esp if i can get ignite immune

[tranquil sedge]

All Damage taken bypasses Energy Shield
yea

[cobalt blade]

true but also flask conditional

[spice pecan]

that's the problem

occultist, not pf sadge

[cobalt blade]

fine for pathfinder or some decent flask investment into a tides build though

[spice pecan]

what's the best way for witch to access iron reflexes? max frenzy charge precursor i assume

[cobalt blade]

yep

[spice pecan]

hmm

this is quickly becoming a trade league build

[cobalt blade]

you can also just path to duelist socket and use a massive thread but pain

[karmic gust]

its also just good in general even when not going for 100%, e.g iff you skipsublime and slap on toh + watchers and get 90% cold res and thats enough ele defenses

and you don haveto fuck around with melding

[cobalt blade]

in that situation you become massively dot vulnerable though

[spice pecan]

I would do something like flawed refuge because lazy but

I think aegis is too good to pass up when CI

[onyx adder]

U werent alrdy there at purity sublime?

[karmic gust]

well you cap the other reses normally

[onyx adder]

Lul

[spice pecan]

purity sublime is only 30

[karmic gust]

you just go 75/90/75

[cobalt blade]

hard disagree when % recover on block exists :p

[cobalt blade]

ah yea fair enough

[onyx adder]

Only 30 what

Years of farming?

[cobalt blade]

i was reading ignore ele defences as not capping those

[tranquil sedge]

@onyx adder this is the planned pob
https://pobb.in/PrEHIy-pQEK5

[spice pecan]

years old but yeah

[tranquil sedge]

only things left are to buy belt, gems, and level up a deadeye

[cobalt blade]

not hard to ssf some basic ass recover on block es shield so you dont need to get armour on an es build

10k+raw pool and your vibing

[spice pecan]

but no, it actually is only 30% on purity sublime

[karmic gust]

i assume thats single hit dps right

[tranquil sedge]

ya

[karmic gust]

decent then, even though i would've expected at least twice as much from dex stacker but good enough

[onyx adder]

Oh yes i know

[tranquil sedge]

bro

[grizzled lily]

wat

[tranquil sedge]

the numbers could be pushed so much higher if i just played a zhp warden

[onyx adder]

Im just sayin if u want to farm a pof sublime

[tranquil sedge]

wat

[onyx adder]

Ur gonna be playing a while

[spice pecan]

nah this is probably going to be some trade build

[tranquil sedge]

ppl just take echo belt and go warden and do two tinctures

[karmic gust]

i think they can be pushed higher even on non warden

[tranquil sedge]

and you could probably 3-5x this dps number

[karmic gust]

or should be able to

because yea fuck warden

[tranquil sedge]

like here's mathil build for comparison

https://pobb.in/UiteGMzi9IBm

[karmic gust]

why not uh

totem spectre

[onyx adder]

I look at pobs like this and i realize everyone else is so much more patient than me

[karmic gust]

for lucky damage

[tranquil sedge]

wot is that

[karmic gust]

perfectspirit of fortune

[tranquil sedge]

and will it die often

[karmic gust]

no

[tranquil sedge]

[cobalt blade]

if you automate convocation no

[onyx adder]

I get like 70% of the way through shit like this and im like this is gonna be so mid even at full investment

[cobalt blade]

if you dont yes

[karmic gust]

i was running spirit of fortune on hiero its very tanky

[onyx adder]

And i delete the pob

[bold kelp]

It doesn't actually die at all it has pretty nuts base hp

[karmic gust]

but yea you ideall slap transfusion + automation+ convocation

somewhere

and you are done

[tranquil sedge]

i knew it was gonna be mid af

for the amount of money this pob costs

[finite quail]

bruh

[tranquil sedge]

it certainly aint great?

but hey its gonna be fun

[grizzled lily]

what does it do

[karmic gust]

but ye spirit of fotune here is like what

double damage

[tranquil sedge]

automate steelskin best i can 😮

[cobalt blade]

its better than youd think honestly

[tranquil sedge]

lemme see if we can't squeeze that in

[karmic gust]

well maybe not double but with volatility like 50-60% more

right

[cobalt blade]

pob doesnt take into account spectral throw sitting on a mob to deal damage

[tranquil sedge]

or the glove mod

[cobalt blade]

and those gloves are kinda nuts for that

[cobalt blade]

ye

[karmic gust]

you should be getting like 7 hits or so with spectral throw and enough splits

idaelly

with that mod

[tranquil sedge]

proj count is 5 and split count is 3 in pob

[karmic gust]

thats not a lot of splits

[onyx adder]

I have like

[cobalt blade]

the one thing id say is kinda depressing is how bad the life is even with garukhans

[bold kelp]

Is fury valve good with spectral throw?

[onyx adder]

War and peace essays on here

[bold kelp]

It sounds pretty good for clear

[karmic gust]

how is split count 3

[tranquil sedge]

esm put in a ton of work for this

[onyx adder]

About spectral throw hit rate

[karmic gust]

you have focal

[grizzled lily]

didnt see steelskin in setup

[karmic gust]

shouldnt it be 4

get that remaining mark effect

[onyx adder]

The amount of time ive spent staring at hoag stacks

[tranquil sedge]

mark effect okay lemme look

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[karmic gust]

yea if you skip 25% you are kinda trolling there

[tranquil sedge]

ahh sorry

[karmic gust]

especially when its on tree now

[tranquil sedge]

i disabled it in pob

[cobalt blade]

i see

[karmic gust]

kinda easy to get

[tranquil sedge]

thats why

[onyx adder]

So yes im aware of how it works but its still trash for the investment lulw

[tranquil sedge]

fudge its all the way down here

okay lemme see if i can get this somehow

[karmic gust]

i mostly just dislike the clear on spectral throw otherwise i would totally play the skill

but its so 0dps for clear

[cobalt blade]

oh for sure but its still a theoretical like 150+m dps

[tranquil sedge]

and also lemme see how to try and get ur spectre gems if i can make space for it

[cobalt blade]

i think

the defence is just awful

[tranquil sedge]

dex stack is just miserable

[cobalt blade]

ye

[karmic gust]

well dex stack should have damage at least, but this should be twice as much to be actually wortwhile imo

[onyx adder]

The decel enchant makes it difficult to calc exactly but its prolly closer to 4 hits than 5

I didnt look closely at the pob

[karmic gust]

you would jut shoot 1 banana tht would be annoying af no?

[cobalt blade]

also holy i just realized its helping alira

that is some scuff

[tranquil sedge]

the resistances are held together with duct tape

alira is the goat

[onyx adder]

Yep 1 banana

Fury valve ruins ur ST too

[karmic gust]

having to use brutal restraint for dex stacker also sucks so much :d

[cobalt blade]

any reason you dont path that

[onyx adder]

Like absolutely butchers it

[karmic gust]

does it?

i would've expected its fine for single

because of the glove mod

[tranquil sedge]

its a six 5% dex timeless? i didnt see lol

[karmic gust]

thats kinda the point

[cobalt blade]

lmao

[tranquil sedge]

didnt think i wanted it coz not using stormrider boot

so didnt consider

[onyx adder]

Instead of parking ur ST on the boss it hits once and then a little bit when its moving super fast on the way back

I tried this thing with the old ST

That had variable speed

[cobalt blade]

its still 3% per point

[onyx adder]

Glove mod is the same

U just want to quit the game

And then the boss moves and u whiff a ST

I did all my testing on the robot synth boss that never moves

And even that guy moves too much

[tranquil sedge]

yea i think im gonna focus on the 2 things db said for now - see if i can slot in spectre and see how to reach that mark effect node

[onyx adder]

U just cant run any form of split with ST its trashcan

[tranquil sedge]

but first i gotta go grind a few hours of harvest i went into tiny debt to buy the timeless

ive been in and out of debt so many times this league

take loan, buy item, repay loan, OOOH NEW SHINY ITEM listed

repeat

[spice pecan]

[tranquil sedge]

truly friends willing to loan divs are goats

up there with friends who help do pob warrioring

[karmic gust]

my day today was super productive, whole day spent on pointless optimization and one piece

[tranquil sedge]

wot's that

a game you're making?

[karmic gust]

yea when im bored

[tranquil sedge]

dam

that's cool

[normal hedge]

is it a pathfinder simulator

[onyx adder]

We need more poe boss simulators

That guy that made the uber elder simulator was goated

We need an uber exarch simulator

So i can suck less

[karmic gust]

ofc

[normal hedge]

[karmic gust]

fuck i should rename that to flask

[karmic gust]

isnt there ball phase simulator somewhere already?

i swear i saw it

[tranquil sedge]

A nearby Minion gains a Soul for every 200 Life you spend on Upfront
Costs with Supported Spells
how are you spending this on attack builds

[full fossil]

nu uh ima do it first

🙂

[karmic gust]

you can slap that on automation anything really

if you want fast ramp then ppl generally do shit like corrupting fever

[onyx adder]

Is there actually

[tranquil sedge]

oh just letting it ramp

[karmic gust]

https://github.com/AterOmen/fires-thousand-suns

[tranquil sedge]

gotcha

[karmic gust]

found it

[onyx adder]

Oh shit

Legend

[cobalt blade]

no linux version 🥀

[karmic gust]

it even has totems, cute

no linxu version would be fine but the release only has installer 😢

installers through wine are always so annoying

[cobalt blade]

yee

[spice pecan]

uh

whoops

[cobalt blade]

nice

[spice pecan]

when i unspec glancing blows

[cobalt blade]

gb+ versatile im guessing lol

yea

[spice pecan]

i've never seen glancing give fucking 310% block

lmao

[cobalt blade]

well your effectively doubling twice

[spice pecan]

yeah

this fbok occultist thing is already so fucking krangled holy

[onyx adder]

620% block pog

[onyx adder]

Attack occ i believe is a warcrime under the geneva convention

In between cluster bombs and clubbing baby seals

[spice pecan]

i don't want to hear it when people are playing eviscerate elementalist

lmao

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

why fbok

is it a cold dot build

[covert ferry]

Anyone happen to have pob of Ben or Jungroan's Uul Netol's Kiss builds from Gauntlet bossing attempts?

[spice pecan]

yeah

imagine trying to make a 1-button cold dot build

omegafuckinglul

[short prairie]

I created one

On my own

You wanna check it out

[tranquil sedge]

ya why not

[karmic gust]

well elementalist gives attack speeed and accuracy and other stuff attack build actually likes :d

[onyx adder]

I would literally rather play siphoning trap

[spice pecan]

have you actually seen the animation for siphoning trap

[cobalt blade]

unless your pressing 5+ buttons your not a real cold dot build 🥀

[spice pecan]

it's one of the coolest looking skills in the game imo

damn shame that it's unplayable

[onyx adder]

Sure

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/cWHGQNTf2FtP

[onyx adder]

Its not quite unplayable now the numbers are ok

[karmic gust]

but when shockwave occu was semi popular it was always so weird and did not made any sense

[cobalt blade]

gotta have that double curse 3-4 cold skills vaal cold snap setup

[onyx adder]

Cold dot is the funniest build

U trade all ur dps for mobility

And then u trade all ur mobility to press 14 buttons to get ur dps back

[tranquil umbra]

just play Righteous Fridge

[karmic gust]

just wintertide indigon ez

[covert ferry]

I tried making one in pob the league after they nerfed/changed it. But I think I was looking at Warden. Also, didn't do clusters or anything. Surely there's a way to make it work, but I couldn't get the DPS past the point of maaaaaybe rare t16s, and tree was almost all dps. Unfortunate that so many of the cold dot wheels on the tree specify spells

[karmic gust]

idk if it even can do damage now probs not :d

[cobalt blade]

yup

played it once never again its too many buttons to do good damage

[tranquil sedge]

it somehow feels wrong to not have a sword or claw

in a fb build

[short prairie]

[onyx adder]

Legit the best way to play it is to just stick to like

[spice pecan]

it sucks because cold dot is such a cool archetype that i dont really see in a lot of games

[onyx adder]

2 dots

And do no damage while running in circles

[cobalt blade]

average dot build

[spice pecan]

you'd use new nebulis now right?

[normal hedge]

imagine how crazy cold dot gonna be in 3.29 when they buff it

[short prairie]

Nebulis doesn’t have hits can’t be evaded

[spice pecan]

thread of hope for RT

[short prairie]

You have to stack accuracy if you use nebulis

[covert ferry]

They might. It was brought up in a dev interview and they acknowledged that it's in a bad place

[short prairie]

does it reach that far? I haven’t tested it

[spice pecan]

oh nvm

massive barely misses it

[short prairie]

[spice pecan]

sadge

[cobalt blade]

Terrible idea

Hit hydrosphere to create the dot ground

no accuracy needed

[short prairie]

[covert ferry]

Unless you corrupt it with PT or something

[onyx adder]

Yer its like special ed storm brand

[short prairie]

That’s so unQoL

[cobalt blade]

its cold dot its already not qol

[covert ferry]

If was when I started it in 3.20

But that was also my first League, so for all I know it was actually a bad experience and I just didn't realize because I was so new

But back then, we could still have vortex on left click while running

[short prairie]

Spell cold dots are fine, it’s just fbok where you have to hit before a dot ground is created

[covert ferry]

Exactly. Cold dot spells are in a decent place. Attack cold dot is currently nearly unplayable, certainly not end game, from what I've seen

[cobalt blade]

cold dot spells arent in a decent place

[spice pecan]

cold dot spells aren't really in a decent place unless having to play 4 of them for a functioning build is fine

[covert ferry]

Which is sad, because it was such a great starter for the one League it worked

[cobalt blade]

by far the worst form of dot rn

[spice pecan]

i still level every witch and templar as wintertide brand tho idgaf

[cobalt blade]

tbf almost anythings playable in campaign

[short prairie]

How about lightning dot

[cobalt blade]

i would argue mana siphoner does more damage than player cold dots

[short prairie]

[covert ferry]

I know there's a rune for double glove bonus, no bonus from boots. Are there any sources of double boots bonus, no bonus from gloves?

[cobalt blade]

thats not a thing

[short prairie]

Donut siphoner

[cobalt blade]

Its 20% inc glove 20% reduced boot

[covert ferry]

Or something similar?

[cobalt blade]

and theres no opposite

[covert ferry]

Ooh, didn't read closely enough because got too excited at the boots prospect

Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking of seeing it in poe2 somewhere

Or something similar

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Runegraft_of_the_Bound

[onyx adder]

I feel like it should be 50% and 50%

My hands and feet come in units of 1

I should have +1 hands -1 feet

Its just makes sense

[cobalt blade]

would be absurdly strong with annihilations approach

half the fire dot without reducing adrenaline and +5 fortify from celestial brace for champions

[covert ferry]

I'm looking to boost my benefits from Beacon of Madness boots

[cobalt blade]

(tho i dont disagree because 50% would enable other items to work)

like shapers touch :3

[onyx adder]

Ok i hope u understand there was no actual brain cells used in the making of that post

Its good ur here to provide em

[cobalt blade]

Absolutely

i just go thru how can i break anything suggested without thinking of balance

[short prairie]

Should I play cold dot next league

[normal hedge]

yes

[short prairie]

To proof my fbok build works

[lament basalt]

hi guys

[lament basalt]

cold dot is peak

[normal hedge]

peak 10m dps

[lament basalt]

or do a boss rush strat and do ice bomb

youll be rich

🤑🤑🤑

[short prairie]

That archdemon crown is like

3 mods

[normal sundial]

is there a way to salvage dead ritual spectres or do i have to buy them again

[lament basalt]

go to hideout

[short prairie]

And then slap veiled exalt either +2 aoe or +2 melee and craft the other

[normal hedge]

well its 4

[lament basalt]

they should be on the ground

[normal hedge]

and how long gonna take you to farm enough essences without scarabs in 3.29

[short prairie]

Essence, annul annul until isolating 30% more

Recomb

The only way to scale that darn cold dot flat is gem level anyway

Ggg needs to give support to flat dot damage

[finite quail]

3.29 the dot update

lightning dot introduced

new dot skills and supports and tree nodes and cluster jewel nodes and special mods added

and new masteries

[short prairie]

Blue donut RF

[finite quail]

PLEASE ggg

give us more dot stuff

[lean urchin]

poe 1 leagues are dot

[cobalt blade]

the way im reading this im just imagining crafting weapons and rolling "adds 5 cold damage per second to spells/attacks"

[short prairie]

And cold per second per 10 dex

[normal hedge]

thats already a week of essences for you

[lament basalt]

i got no idea what build to play for strongboxes

lowk wanna play pf

[short prairie]

Scarabless essence until highest tier, harvest swap

[grizzled lily]

CWS

[lament basalt]

cws pf??

i mean

[grizzled lily]

cws chieftain

[lament basalt]

oh

[normal hedge]

any leaguestarter can farm boxes

[grizzled lily]

wait is it about 3.29

or

[lament basalt]

i feel like i die so ez

[karmic gust]

cws for boxes? sounds kinda awkward

[short prairie]

Any boxes can farm league starters

[normal hedge]

cws is fine?

i dont see why not

[grizzled lily]

cws strongboxes is fun

[lament basalt]

nah cws is comp

[normal hedge]

you open the box and everything gonna die right away

[lament basalt]

but

idk

i just played it already

[karmic gust]

well you need to wait for stuff to hit you right, so kinda pointless delay

[lean urchin]

rf explodey

[grizzled lily]

its instant

[cobalt blade]

the box hits you but also shit from boxes will start wailing on you instantly anyway

[lament basalt]

wait

im about to cook

[grizzled lily]

air hits u and u get stunned

[normal hedge]

i already farmed it and its like almost instant

[cobalt blade]

+you dont really get locked in stun animations so you just chain multiple boxes

shit from the previous box hitting you if its living somehow into the next box etcc

[lament basalt]

isnt cws mega expensive tho

[normal hedge]

but the caster mastery is really comfy to farm boxes i'm too addicted to it

[cobalt blade]

nah

[grizzled lily]

spark

[cobalt blade]

its league startable as a scuffed flask living setup

[grizzled lily]

caster mastery

[cobalt blade]

and this late into the league jewels/other shit isnt expensive to get it fairly capable for doing orig maps

[cobalt blade]

real

[round abyss]

Wait so I am not only one !

[finite quail]

no definitely not

chest mastery is very common to get

[grizzled lily]

problem with cws is that u cant get to caster mastery ever, socket starved, normal rf is better for strongboxes

u just go unearth

[normal hedge]

what an anormal rf would be

[opaque sphinx]

officially hit every herald but thunder

[tranquil sedge]

how many chances is it per replica hit

[livid quarry]

rf feels slow theres no attack spd for shield charge

[opaque sphinx]

got ash like 5 times and purity 4

[opaque sphinx]

divining it

[cobalt blade]

how many dupe gems

[grizzled lily]

u dont need fire dot to kill strongboxes

[opaque sphinx]

a lot

[grizzled lily]

so you can get the caster mastery

[opaque sphinx]

notable ones i remember are like
heavy strike, dual strike, haste, winter orb, frost bomb, precision, herald of ash and purity and agony all multiples

[normal hedge]

pressing a spell to open boxes without being a caster would be a mistake for sure

[opaque sphinx]

bro fuck off

why does it love HoA

[grizzled lily]

on a map like haunted mansion one unearth can open like 5 strongboxes

[gritty epoch]

Isn't there a numpad trick for boxes

[normal hedge]

yeah automation numpad

[normal hedge]

still a mistake

[bleak quiver]

omg, ever since i started this build i had to quintuple check whats the max effect for brittle, but i finally understand that the indicator is just fucked and constantly shuffles the numbers to the wrong ailments

[normal hedge]

anti qol gameplay lol

[grizzled lily]

strongboxes are a mistake

[opaque sphinx]

nah

nah

just hit shattering steel b2b

[gritty epoch]

Weakboxes

[opaque sphinx]

then 5 div later hit spire trap b2b

bro

nah

[cobalt blade]

one argument id make is if your running 12p attack speed clusters and one of your attack speed nodes is attack and cast speed with x skill

phys fire lightning w/e

or doing elemental skills+lightning skills for 8% atk and cast per node

[grizzled lily]

after the nerfs yea

[cobalt blade]

gives enough cast speed to be viable to path on an attack build

[grizzled lily]

strongboxes only okay in mirage

[opaque sphinx]

b2b cascade now

ggg actually laughing at me

[cobalt blade]

15 divine orbs away surely

[short prairie]

Wow 30 brittle

Insane

[finite quail]

its always messed up yeah

the max is 6%

[short prairie]

No, you

[finite quail]

huh

[grizzled lily]

[opaque sphinx]

801 div used

broke till shit sells again

[grizzled lily]

how big of an upgrade is it even

[karmic gust]

could'vee just made heist ammy for that instead :d

[opaque sphinx]

4 whole passive points

[short prairie]

Imagine rolling a replica dragon fang with 801 divs

[grizzled lily]

okay

[opaque sphinx]

yeah that was smarter

this was gonna be a neat endgame goal

its like 1/250 so it shouldnt have been too hard

[finite quail]

it has turned into pain

[opaque sphinx]

expected maybe 600 if i got super super unlucky

did not expect this unlucky

[finite quail]

dw you'll hit it within the next 1000 or so divines

[grizzled lily]

274 active skill gems in poe1 btw, might aswell just go and put a lottery ticket @opaque sphinx

[opaque sphinx]

but i should have cuz this is the league i missed a fracture 24 times in a row

my meme tab from gambling

[finite quail]

lmfao

[grizzled lily]

those adorned are all 95% i think

holy didnt know u can omen of fortune nimis

[cobalt blade]

those are bricked nimis

[finite quail]

no

those are bricked

[grizzled lily]

i know

thats why i said it

[finite quail]

you cant omen of fortune them

[grizzled lily]

its his meme museum

BRO I KNOW I WASNT BORN YDAY

[karmic gust]

but did you kneew

[finite quail]

you were to me

[karmic gust]

that you cant omeen of fortune them

[finite quail]

cause you're new here

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[grizzled lily]

holy got activity mogged

[vocal tinsel]

no those are bricked

[livid quarry]

i dunno if rf players know their gears are expensive to upgrade

[finite quail]

I'm pretty sure they do

because thats their build

[livid quarry]

why play low dps expensive build lol

[grizzled lily]

99% of rf players just settle for 1c items

lol

[finite quail]

because dumb easy gameplay

[karmic gust]

and by someone playing chaos dot too

[opaque sphinx]

[finite quail]

because people wanna be spoonfed easy content

[karmic gust]

i would be ashameed

[vocal tinsel]

i played rf one time and as soon as I got to like t14 maps i was like ight time to swap

[bleak quiver]

are we doing a L take competition today?

[grizzled lily]

usually rf players either never swap their rise of pheonix or just go cws

[vocal tinsel]

tbf rf is a super nice league starter from what I experienced. whole camp was cake and ez af to build through

[karmic gust]

rf players arre just easy to scam

[livid quarry]

[karmic gust]

they overpay for easy to craft gear so much

[livid quarry]

lol yeah i wanna try scamming them

[finite quail]

wtf

deathbeam scammer spotted

[karmic gust]

[grizzled lily]

just craft their clusters

medium clusters

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-whar-erm-whar-confused-cat-huh-what-gif-4052880542927116908

[grizzled lily]

area of effect clusters

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-plotting-evil-patrick-spongebob-squarepants-gif-3501874

[grizzled lily]

you spend 5c in alts and they buy it for half a div

[thick goblet]

didn't vinchova spend two weeks straight crafting rf scepters or something

[finite quail]

god I need an 8p chaos cluster in my life rn

[rancid sluice]

the top end of rf on ninja is just nuts though, like they clearly know what they are spending. 35k life dot capped 3 1p voices its kind of wild

[bleak quiver]

everyone pays too much for easy to craft gear, buids that have good guides are just worse

[finite quail]

have not gotten a single cluster yet in t7 maps

[bleak quiver]

cuz saying rf bbad is the npc take

its the skill bell currve

[finite quail]

rfbad

[karmic gust]

yea now look at any other build with that kind of investment

[rancid sluice]

oh i get it way more damage but theres a -lot- of ppl that take it to that level

[karmic gust]

you can probs make siphoning trap feel pretty nice if you just keep pouring money into it

[grizzled lily]

they never start and end with rf tho, they just make it their end goal to make a screenwide rf that MIGHT reach dotcap

[vocal tinsel]

yeah you can make a uber one shot build with bv chieftain for half the cost of just one 1p voices

[bleak quiver]

its the poe skill bell curve, you start liking it, then say thats its bad cuz you thing you are good at the game, then you are back to rf cuz its chill and has a good topend for a comfy build

[short prairie]

[karmic gust]

yea for same reason ppl like to do that with other skills that are mechanically strong

but weak as shit otherwise

[short prairie]

Where light radius builds

Can light radius builds reach 100m damage

[opaque sphinx]

and u can make it for half that price with crushing fist

[grizzled lily]

ye

[karmic gust]

you can somewhat fix weak skills with money when they are good mechanically

[grizzled lily]

isnt light radius really op

by default

but its zhp or smth

[short prairie]

No?

[vocal tinsel]

what does light radius even do

[opaque sphinx]

the wands

turn light rad to fire dam

[grizzled lily]

you put the helmet on

[finite quail]

what it says

[opaque sphinx]

its actually pretty strong

[finite quail]

increases ur light radius

[short prairie]

You can see more in the dark

[grizzled lily]

and light radius becomes dmg

[vocal tinsel]

i just always assumed light radius was a delve thing and ignored it lol

[finite quail]

the only way light radius actually means anything is through uniques that work with it

[grizzled lily]

wreath of phrecia

[finite quail]

no, thats darkness light radius

wreath of phrecia gives 50% of light radius as inc aoe

and solaris fanatica or whatevers its called turns it into flat fire spell damage iirc

or flat attack fire?

[opaque sphinx]

is there a place to sell builds now

[bleak quiver]

tft

[short prairie]

Eclipse Solaris..

[vocal tinsel]

tft

[grizzled lily]

tft

[finite quail]

trading servers

[grizzled lily]

still operating

[finite quail]

so path of exchange or tft or whatever

[grizzled lily]

saw people sell theirs on trade chat

[bleak quiver]

eclise solaris is just a good source of flat dmg that is easy to scale since its a trash stat that gets slapped everywhere

[opaque sphinx]

u needed high rank to use the tft one

dont have that since they removed mine while ago

[grizzled lily]

5 voiches

vouches

it aint much tbh

[short prairie]

Double it up

[opaque sphinx]

hm thats not bad

[short prairie]

2 eclipse solaris

[grizzled lily]

i might be a scammer right here but i think you can have a friend vouch for u like 5 times on smth that you guys never did together

and youd get it ez

[bleak quiver]

it makes it even better by being a wand

so you can aoe scale kb with wreath of phrecia

[grizzled lily]

but thats kinda against their tos but it works

[short prairie]

My campaign slayer got to 600k dps

With just double eclipse solaris

[finite quail]

It would be very suspicious if you never got any vouches then got 5 vouches recently from the same guy

[karmic gust]

you get like 20m dps for free with double eclipse solaris and the light radius trash gear

[bleak quiver]

Wreath of Phrecia is a cool item to have foulborn, sad

[short prairie]

What

So it can reach 100m

[bleak quiver]

yeah, its really gross for the investiment

[grizzled lily]

its fiiine i mean you can always have more than a friend to give u a vouch plus idk noone looks anyways their whole staff is cooked

[bleak quiver]

but it hits a deadlock eventually

[grizzled lily]

everyone doing vouches rn for poe2

so

[karmic gust]

i had league start pob for elementalist for i before you just get so much dmg for free

downside is that you lose moveskill and if you dont double eclipse solaris you are trolling

but you can probs make wintry blast or lw work somewhat somehow

[bleak quiver]

its wands, + enmity + Wreath of Phrecia making kb overlap on all hits, just turns you into a god

[short prairie]

Huh

[karmic gust]

KB overlaps do not rly scale with aoe

[bleak quiver]

they do, little but they do

[karmic gust]

you just geet a bit more forgiving aiming

[bleak quiver]

its better with clustering

but the nerf on the fork thing fucked it hard for this version, so i guess you use the normal one now

[karmic gust]

without wall its always the same overlaps regardess

[grizzled lily]

kboc overlaps

https://tenor.com/view/speed-covering-mouth-stream-scary-speed-scared-gif-3435748839023247479

[karmic gust]

it works exactly same as regular KB just with bigger base radius on both parts

[short prairie]

Msoz overlaps

Kboc sucks idk why ppl play it

Out of all skills I played

Prob streamer effect

[grizzled lily]

its too laggy

[bleak quiver]

before the runegraft nerf i wouldnt agree

[grizzled lily]

nasa pc just to see whats in front of u

[bleak quiver]

it was a cool other flavour of kb, and kb is peak poe

[grizzled lily]

esp with deli effect

[bleak quiver]

now its kinda flaccid...

[short prairie]

NASA pc doesn’t even have that good of a cpu

[grizzled lily]

kboc necro just kills your eyes

[short prairie]

And kills pc

[karmic gust]

mana scaling and yea pre runegraft nerf

but now outside of mana scaling kboc is pretty pointless skill

which is fine i guess

[short prairie]

Perfectly a mid skill

That lags

[grizzled lily]

kb better

kb elementalist

oh boy

[covert ferry]

Enmity?

[short prairie]

Did you embrace?

[covert ferry]

Oh, ok. Wiki gave other results with just that word

[grizzled lily]

kb elementalist 3.26 state

those were the times

[covert ferry]

Mobile, so auto fill options don't show up same way

[karmic gust]

if i wanted to play kb i would just do str stack

other variations are just weaker

[grizzled lily]

yea but for the investment

[karmic gust]

and i wouldnt play it on budget

[covert ferry]

I'm sure I could grab 2 eclipse solaris and wreath in out GSF league. Sounds like it would easily outperform kf totems

[karmic gust]

or well pre hh at least

[bleak quiver]

yeah, its pretty good for ssf, if you find the wand that is

[grizzled lily]

kb deadeye kinda good also

[tranquil umbra]

is it just the usual str stack setup

[karmic gust]

eh kinda pointless to go DE over ele if you want regular setup

imo

[bleak quiver]

the wand is t2 or t1, the rest is trash

[karmic gust]

yea, kb str stack isnt exactly new build

[covert ferry]

Currently, best I can tell, I'm at 250k dps single target? Seems wrong, but not sure. Can't assume charges, bec they aren't consistently up. Need more crit, and -mana cost to make frenzy more spammable

[cobalt blade]

imo you just go jugg the attack speed is too good to give up

[grizzled lily]

i mean kb deadeye even i could make it work on a budget

that could do most mods

[covert ferry]

Could, but I'm already level 92 champ

[tranquil umbra]

KB deadeye is better on a budget sure but if you want to scale it into the sun you go for a stacker

[cobalt blade]

kb deadeye you play warden until you can steal something from warden because its so much early damage lmfao

[limpid prairie]

rotate to blood soaking

[grizzled lily]

+2 proj tho

and hh

[covert ferry]

Elaborate?

[grizzled lily]

u just do breach all day every day

[karmic gust]

you are running gmp anyway teh +2 proj from DE arent going to do much

[limpid prairie]

"Bloodsoak banner support" or something

new support this league

[tranquil umbra]

dawg not everyone wants to play banners

[karmic gust]

and dont think you would ever drop gmp even on DE

[bleak quiver]

new form of self harm you mean

[covert ferry]

I'll look into it. Haven't been doing banners at all. Fort stacking

[grizzled lily]

ugh yea maybe i just want to play deadeye rn

[karmic gust]

i think banners are very underrated atm they are pretty broken

well not bloodsoaked

[grizzled lily]

kb elementalist much more qol

[karmic gust]

but just in general banner champ

[bleak quiver]

yeah, banner support is now a mainstay for party play

unless they nuke it i guess

[limpid prairie]

You all complaning Champion isnt optimal for this or that build
But Champion is 100% optimal for banners

[covert ferry]

Any KF experts want to hop on stream channel and roast my build? Er, I mean, help me improve it?

[tranquil umbra]

yeah the numbers on banners are fucking absurd

[karmic gust]

its just way too much stats evevn with single banner

for free

[tranquil umbra]

it's not really for free but I get it

[cobalt blade]

that support looks so awful to play

[finite quail]

gah dayum thats a good 5link to get

[cobalt blade]

since it does banners and warcries

so your just pressing fucking everything

[karmic gust]

like defiance is just 5 times better barkskin

[finite quail]

too bad I cant get passive chargges if I use it tho

[karmic gust]

with movespeed and supp cap on top

[bleak quiver]

well, every support character is horrible

remember the doedres skin era?

[karmic gust]

and you can literally just play with defaince banner 90% of the time

[cobalt blade]

nah

auras bots fine

[karmic gust]

doedres skin was actually really nice to use

[tranquil umbra]

defiance banner my goat

[karmic gust]

the totem was instant

[cobalt blade]

same with mana guardian

[tranquil umbra]

the best zoom skill ever

[cobalt blade]

neither of those need to press 10 buttos

[bleak quiver]

mana guardian i give a pass

aura bot...

[karmic gust]

i played doedre skin spidersr was so nice build

very sad that they killed the chest

[cobalt blade]

you run around and smite maybe toss portal mines if your mana guardian doesnt want to

[grizzled lily]

i can count the mirrors from that one pic bro

[short prairie]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/VeCtor-6504/天赋异禀的究极大力爆?i=0&search=skills%3DKinetic%2BBlast%26sort%3Dstr%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Cstr%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill @karmic gust you gonna play this?

[covert ferry]

Got a SSF-friendly build and play style guide to point me to?

[cobalt blade]

and youll press vaal clarity/disc sometimes if needed but every party member does that

[karmic gust]

well im not gonna play anything, if i will be bored i will finish challenges but otherwise im done with this league alraed

but yea something like that is what i meant

[finite quail]

319% increased charge duration

[karmic gust]

for kb str stack

[finite quail]

[karmic gust]

osin kinda pointless there tho ngl

just do lycia

its probs better even

[tranquil umbra]

idk if I'd want to give up on jugg nodes tbh

[finite quail]

this ring is SO bad but its my only source of endurance charges for right now ughhh

[limpid prairie]

steel mage was playing retaliate bleed on ssf too

[cobalt blade]

wdym

full convert vs 67% convert

[short prairie]

Resonating belt

[cobalt blade]

for the same cost of 2 ascendancy points

[finite quail]

read my name

[karmic gust]

and belt

[cobalt blade]

and og sin enables 7% strength

[karmic gust]

well flasks

[cobalt blade]

i mean i assume they just wanna use screams

[short prairie]

Enduring cry

[finite quail]

bad

[cobalt blade]

like thats definitely lock corrupted

[short prairie]

Huh

[finite quail]

I don't wanna stay in place while enemies hit me

[short prairie]

For sure.

[karmic gust]

yea i mean i would rather just do mb and lycia there

[cobalt blade]

fair

[short prairie]

What’s lycia doing there

She has no cloths on

[finite quail]

good lord

there's tids

[short prairie]

Totally uncovered

Unlike atziri

[finite quail]

I mean

So do the golden statues in act 3

[short prairie]

And the lunaris fanatics

In poo2 the most lewd thing is prob the arab woman

Or Indian I can’t tell

[tranquil umbra]

it's atziri

[short prairie]

Ofc

[finite quail]

its atziri

did u not watch the vaal league reveal trailer

where shes full robertsons out with them damn curves

[tranquil umbra]

yeah

[finite quail]

that was the most replayed moment in the trailer lmfao

[tranquil umbra]

shit got neversink goonposting

that's how you know

[wheat sinew]

:( no sublimes no pof

maaan why did that one last time had to be Purity of Elements

[hard cliff]

how tf

do you double anoint a replica dragons fang

that's crazy

@short prairie
She's based off the Aztecs

though I don't know enough about them physically to say

if she is

obv all her aesthetics mostly are

though don't think that they have extra titties

any Mexicans in chat lmk

[bleak quiver]

double anointed base from blight drops, imprint it, chance it, pray

[covert ferry]

Yeah, just saw his build vid about the banners. Bricked by requiring gem from wave 15 simu

If we can finish wave 15 simu, I can use my madness build well. But still probably much worse dps and tank haha

[hard cliff]

thank you

[covert ferry]

If we drop the gem tho, I'll prob give that build a go

[hard cliff]

I forgot

i saw someone trying to do that on stream this league with the ancestral bond helmet

he made it sound like finding a shiny Pokemon

but worse

[finite quail]

Ok so turns out that restless ward was really fucking good to get as a 5link

[bleak quiver]

thats different

[finite quail]

375 life regen, 20% movement speed, 480 es and 1700 something evasion is really nice

[bleak quiver]

those you need to brick the uniques and tainted it into a good helm, for the amulet it comes naturally with 2 anoints and you can craft them

[finite quail]

plus some life and what not

huge upgrade

can actually run bloodrage with no problem now

[hard cliff]

this game is hard

[tranquil umbra]

getting a double anointed unique amulet is aids

rolling it for dragonfang is even worse

[bleak quiver]

you can also do the same tainted thing with the unique amulet, but those are quad anointed, and way worse to make

[tranquil umbra]

I'd just go for smth like carnage heart with that atp

[hard cliff]

yeah I can imagine

[cobalt blade]

the annoying part is finding the 2 anoints you want lmfao

chancings not thaaaat bad

[hard cliff]

enjoy your double anoint +3 frozen legion

[cobalt blade]

but ye divining dragonfangs is pain

[hard cliff]

man I wish frozen legion was good 😭

you let generals cry be good

why not cold generals cry

[bleak quiver]

you can probably make a good wormblaster with it

lots of work tho

[tranquil umbra]

I had to get an anointed ivory tower for my build

I was exceptionally lucky though and hit the 8% on the first mythic orb

[limpid prairie]

Can i sustain charges like this?

[bleak quiver]

yep

[tranquil umbra]

when hit yeah

[bleak quiver]

its annoying to get it to max fast, but it sustains it on most builds

[cobalt blade]

easily and you can weapon swap redblade banner enduring cry if you want instant max

and just use that to sustain

[finite quail]

yes

[limpid prairie]

This frees up my boots i was using ralakesh for endurance charges I dont know what i can get

dont know good unique options just onslaught and go?

[bleak quiver]

ralakesh allows you to run charge steal maps

[tranquil umbra]

I mean you can still run them

unless you NEED the charges

[finite quail]

if crit, run elusive tailwind onslaught boots

[bleak quiver]

if most of your phys defense is charges, might as well not have them on those maps

[finite quail]

if not crit, exarch/eater rare boots unless theres unique boots that are better

[tranquil umbra]

run replica alberon's

don't question it

[finite quail]

SIR YES SIR

[limpid prairie]

Endurance charges are carryng the build and also i have 5 max charges
Maybe i run ralakesh and get this 3 points back

[tranquil umbra]

you only have 5?

[bleak quiver]

i think its a good idea unless you are min-maxing

[limpid prairie]

bruh thats almost as many as there are on the tree

im shadow too

you want me to reach into the duelist zone too?

[bleak quiver]

you can eldrich boots + veiled/essece if any implicits are VERY good for your build, but they are not very impacting

[tranquil umbra]

anoint

[limpid prairie]

Nebulis so using +2 max res

[tranquil umbra]

fair

[bleak quiver]

if you want to push the build, you make elevated boots that fit your build instead

[limpid prairie]

Nebulis experience

[bleak quiver]

it is annoying to make them tho...

[limpid prairie]

Yeah that sounds fair tree is like super tight i think im going ralakesh 100% maybe later i will make those double influenced boots
If i get enough money for a 3 passive voices we have a few more points

[tranquil umbra]

my build was just using eldritch boots

[limpid prairie]

Ralkesh boots were frenzy charges but max frenzies is 3 and with suffix catalyst you can get +2 min frenzy charges on the ring

[tranquil umbra]

you can?

without mist?

[limpid prairie]

50% helical 20% suffix catalyst

2 min frenzies

[tranquil umbra]

how is that 2