1┃general

[karmic gust]

doesnt even need to be balanced anyway thats all jugg and chie fis as well

and noone cares

warden is pretty bad ascendancy in SC trade because if you want glass cannon damage you dont even need to be ascended for that one

you get damage randomly on anything you just want some random defenses from your asc on top

all slayers are also built like glsscannons and yet the ascendancy is still like quadrupling their defenses

[bold kelp]

Slayer is just broken

Or rather end charges are broken

Can we revert that shit

Or atleast make it like half edr

[karmic gust]

if they reverted endus rigt now then the defenses would be like turbo fucked

on a a lot of builds

[bold kelp]

Good

[thorny vigil]

Im just a CoC ED player. I like easy. Or minions. Just brain dead. Especially for poe2. But the way its looking, I might just respec for Gyre.

[karmic gust]

they need to revert acro phase acro wind dancer

that was the best meta

not the useless acro and wind dancer we have now

[bold kelp]

Acro phase acro wind dancer meta was just svallin 1.0

You don't really die... Until you do

[whole bluff]

Man, I got dodge in LE and it's ridiculously good

[karmic gust]

well not really because of wind dancer right

[split maple]

Warden kinda feels like a buncha good nodes you cannot take

[karmic gust]

it was pretty reliable

[split maple]

Just coz 2 tinctures is obligatory 4pointer

[bold kelp]

Wind dancer was just broken

[karmic gust]

as it should've been smh

[bold kelp]

There was no reason to not ever click it

[whole bluff]

Granted, I can tank things that one shot 95% of builds without risk to begin with. But I underestimated the power of 50% dodge or like 70% if hit recently

[karmic gust]

and now we have supp instead

and its so shit

and hard to balance

wind dancerr was better

[bold kelp]

If you were right side and didn't click wind dancer, acro and phase acro you had mental illness.

[karmic gust]

well that applies to supp atm too

[bold kelp]

Or were playing CoD

That's true. But I think the idea of suppress is that they want you to invest gear into it

[karmic gust]

exceptwind dancer actually made more sense as defense for avoidancce builds

unlike supp

[split maple]

En suppress needs like two suffixes on gear if rightside or bottomside

[bold kelp]

They should just make supp tie with evasion somehow

[whole bluff]

I think wardens problem is tincture design is flawed

[split maple]

Its just passive point hungry

[karmic gust]

having to invest gear into it is what made it so annoying to balance

[split maple]

Mainly due to good small clusters

[karmic gust]

and then yea they just moved most of i to tree anyway

lul

because it was impossible to balance whenyou could just gear it

[grizzled lily]

just realized that thats a face

[bold kelp]

Suppress should be mechanically tied to evasion.

[whole bluff]

Tinctures should imo just be a permanent item in your flask slot

[bold kelp]

That's basically what wardens do

That's... The entire point of warden

[split maple]

At the cost of 2 clicks every 8sec

[whole bluff]

Yeah, but for half the ascendancy in an uncomfortable way

[bold kelp]

Maybe the warden node should just say it magebloods tinctures

[split maple]

And better not doubleclick or you lose DPS for 4sec

Warden is balanced by lack of qol

[karmic gust]

the part whereyou have to actually pay attention to the time is more annoying than actually having to click it

like i would rather click life flask or die on PF for a month than to click warden tinctures for a day

[bold kelp]

If warden mageblooded tinctures. And barkskin was 1 point. I think it'd be giga ascendancy

4 point 2 tincture, 2 point barkskin, 2 point one of the elements

And that's a pretty powerful ascendancy imo

[split maple]

Hoarfrost is like the strongest node of ascend and often you cannot even take it due to ascend Point pressure lol

[karmic gust]

if it mageblooded tinctures it would just be broken

[ruby geyser]

Today is the day for all of us to get a raw mirror drop! I wish you guys all the luck 🤞

[split maple]

Oath of spring being silly dmg too

[bold kelp]

Doesn't it functionally mageblood tinctures right now?

Just with dog shit QoL

[karmic gust]

you need to invest points on tree for it and it has dogshit qol yes

[split maple]

Yes you have perma uptime with masteries

[bold kelp]

You need 3 points on tree right

[split maple]

Need to take 2 tincture wheels

[bold kelp]

Wait you need 2 tincture wheels?

[karmic gust]

you need 2 masteries

[bold kelp]

Not just 1?

[whole bluff]

I think there should be like:

• Permanent tinctures, effect on equip
• 2 baseline or a keystone with +1
• Warden give like a choice node between +1 tincture or 50% more effect of tinctures
• Full Barkskin from 1 lab

[bold kelp]

Hmm I mean if it mageblooded tinctures

It probably isn't that broken still it saves you 2 points

[split maple]

Turn off at 12 burn and no burn for 6

[bold kelp]

Since you'd be clicking tincture effect anyways

[karmic gust]

if it was permanent tinctures it would need to have like 50% less effect

or 60%

[whole bluff]

But that would be fine

[bold kelp]

Why? How many points would mageblooding tinctures even save?

[karmic gust]

actuallyif the permanent tinctures werent tied to warden then maybe like 80% less

lol

[whole bluff]

Warden could still juice them, and tree, maybe also gear

[bold kelp]

You'd save 2 since you're clicking tincture wheels for tincture effect anyways

I really don't see how it'd be broken

[karmic gust]

well you wouldnt click them just like you dont click flask effect with mageblood right

you would do annoint at best

not even pf goes out of the way for flask effect anymore

[bold kelp]

Why wouldn't you? You don't get 95 tincture effect for free like flask effect

[split maple]

Qual scales tincture effect tho

[whole bluff]

They could juice sources of tincture effect and nerf baseline

[split maple]

Idk I would still click them prolly

[split palm]

wait wtf

[split maple]

But I can see the argument

[bold kelp]

Aren't the tincture effect nodes super efficient?

[split palm]

poo2 std is actually incredibly shit

[bold kelp]

Like you get alot of effect for not many points

[split palm]

you can't use legacy gear xd

[karmic gust]

only collodial mixture somewhat is

rest prertty garbage

[mental nymph]

ew is that poe 2?

[karmic gust]

and collodial depends on using life flask too

every 4s

to be worth clicking

[whole bluff]

1 tincture:

• 10% attack speed
• 10% ele pen
• 60% weapon elemental damage
• 3 tinctures available for Warden, 2 tinctures available for others
  1 tincture small passive:
• 15% tincture effect?

[surreal mulch]

they should have added something else to warden

[karmic gust]

huh really? wtf

thats so stupid

whats the point of standard then in poe2

[surreal mulch]

like maybe retain some of the attack speed she had

[whole bluff]

And like essence mod on ring for 30-40% tincture effect

[bold kelp]

I mean warden has plenty of stuff already.

[surreal mulch]

or do some unique shit with frenzy charges

[split palm]

no idea lmao

[bold kelp]

This is supposed to come from tinctures

Warden doesn't need more ascendancy points

[surreal mulch]

moer

[split palm]

I thought standard was there just to do stupid builds

[surreal mulch]

she does

[split maple]

Just it doesn't coz you use one tincture for ele pen and one for crit multi

[bold kelp]

She has like 9 notables.

[surreal mulch]

maybe something that interacts with evasion to make evasion finally not suck ass

[bold kelp]

Warden should get pre nerf wind dancer

[surreal mulch]

outside of ghost dance

[bold kelp]

But that's basically barkskin

I still think if the barkskin node was a 2 pointer instead of 4, I'd play warden

[surreal mulch]

oh yeah basically let you scale barkskin more and have it interact with other defences even better

that would fix everything

[bold kelp]

2 tinctures, barkskin, and an oath? I'm in

[split maple]

Hmm make barkskin 2pointer, switch placement of double tincture and tinctures apply to ranged

So you can take oath of spring, hoarfrost and barkskin

[bold kelp]

Only concern is bark skin being a 2 pointer means PF is going to become functionally immortal

[split maple]

And it's pretty op

[bold kelp]

[dark kite]

at what level should i swap to str stack? my usual goal is 84 for top armour bases

[ebon hatch]

ngl i liked raider bit more

onslaught ehh stacking build (that doesn’t actually work)

but fun

[bold kelp]

Raider was good before power creep

When onslaught and phasing were actually premium effects

That were hard to get

[rancid seal]

is this working together

[bold kelp]

And not permanent from 1 boot mod and an abyss jewel

[rancid seal]

i ask if i can use that on uber maven to ignore her memory game ;P

[split maple]

You rly like inflating Max hits there lol

[unique silo]

Quick question lads. Is using both flammability and elemental weakness curses good or I get diminished returns?

[bold kelp]

Yes you can use Vaal arctic armour to tank memory game

[rancid seal]

i am not i ask if it work

[rancid seal]

thanks

w8 i mean vaal molten shell + vaal artic armor

both

do they stack

[bold kelp]

They should? I don't see any reason they don't

[split maple]

Your issue is gonna be getting enough souls for both

[bold kelp]

Arctic armour isn't a guard

Pretty sure Vaal arctic armour isn't a guard either

[cobalt blade]

Ye its not

[ebon hatch]

yeah you most likely don’t have enough souls

[split maple]

And like surely just vaal aa is enough to tank maven

Why mix

[rancid seal]

i am just thinkering

🙂

[cobalt blade]

it can be used to tank it but like it's the same as using gluttony of elements for vaal aa

[mental nymph]

[rancid seal]

ok another question

if you use aegis aurora or relevant es recover shield

[unique silo]

Quick question lads. Is using both flammability and elemental weakness curses good or I get diminished returns? Do they stack?

[rancid seal]

is magna eclipsis ele buble worth it

[split maple]

They stack, depends on build

[rancid seal]

or it dont recover well

[split maple]

The annoying part is you need to raise curse limit

[cobalt blade]

you cant wear 2 shields

[unique silo]

Awesome. Playing Ignite golems. This is great news. Thanks

[unique silo]

Yessir. Whispers or that vixen glove

[mental nymph]

man i love duped harvest bosses

[bleak quiver]

said no one ever

[silent leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324235206902677656/1360576500318867576/insanecat.gif

[whole bluff]

Glgl

I hope you Faustus them well

[nova minnow]

hmm

ok i just went out and randomly bought this shield

so i guess im going to use shattering

now how the fuk do i scale it

[whole bluff]

Is double dmg an essence mod or otherwise hard to get? So the only bad mod is life regen

[nova minnow]

i think it's a veiled mod

[bleak quiver]

it is

its only 2% better than the craft tho

[whole bluff]

But the attack speed is also nice and probably not that improveable? I was considering prefix lock harvest exalt/veiled exalt spam, but it might not be worth

[nova minnow]

god damn, i only have like 1k flat cold with all that evasion tho

[bleak quiver]

for most it would be better to have curse effect or double flat veiled and craft dd, but AS is crafted mod only and it is harder to get AS for offhands

[nova minnow]

Bruh whose idea was it to play SST

[whole bluff]

xD

[nova minnow]

hard to scale the dmg tho.
I can't use seething since there's no es, so i basically have 5% crit base

Oh well, I'll look at projectile builds for ideas

[whole bluff]

Can you get brittle? Though idk if that feels good on SST

Builds that have delayed impact, need to crit to cap crit, and need to cap crit to have dmg, don't feel great in my experience

[nova minnow]

I kinda want chilled tho

[cobalt blade]

where 30 qual 🥀

[nova minnow]

im too poor

coz i want hypothermia and i got some dmg against chilled enemies gloves

[cobalt blade]

fair

[nova minnow]

Bruh i still need accuracy?

the fuck

i cant even run nightblade

[cobalt blade]

mostly saying that cos the armour from a 40 qual* emperor's vigilance is very close to that 20 quality shield ontop of having the 500 odd es from seething

so theres barely any point to running a non overqual lol

[nova minnow]

Yeah but i decided to run shattering

instead of normal sst

[whole bluff]

You could solve it with skitterbots with bonechill + leaderships price, or hatred sublime

[nova minnow]

because i hate myself

[cobalt blade]

ah fair enough

[nova minnow]

I'll look around.

Dmg looks ass lmao

coz not a armor stacker

im thinking frenzy charge

Evasion defences shoot me

[tranquil sedge]

does neuroses scarab not work with deli orbs?

[cobalt blade]

that would qualify as an attack so you can evade it

[tranquil sedge]

killing kosis or omni in map isn't giving me a reward stack

[split palm]

what

[nova minnow]

The reward is overcoming the challenge

[split palm]

huh

[tranquil sedge]

im using a neuroses scarab

and diviner deli orbs

[split palm]

ah

[tranquil sedge]

im not seeing a pile of decks drop (+1 reward) when i kill a deli boss

did i misunderstand how it works or wat

[clever girder]

is there a way to reset full atlas passive tree if i have the refund points?
and if not, id like to submit a suggestion: full atlas refund w/ confirm box

[tranquil sedge]

can't do it

we wish we could do it

send in feedback on the forum or reddit if you wish

[split palm]

uh

maybe it only applies to non-natural deli bosses?

[tranquil sedge]

wat even would that be

there's only 2 deli bosses 🤔

[split palm]

no

I meant like

it spawns two extra deli bosses

and only those two give +1?

[cobalt blade]

in deli mirror maps you can get 4 bosses from using the scarab

[tranquil sedge]

im full clearing these maps

watever boss i see i kill

[split palm]

yea

[tranquil sedge]

im using orbs

not mirror

[cobalt blade]

but im p sure it applies to killing bosses at all

[tranquil sedge]

then its not working ;-;

neither outside mirage nor inside

running empowered mirage maps

[nova minnow]

I am cooked.

I need to craft a stat stick dagger w global crit chance, crit multi, and hits cant be evaded

[split palm]

I'Ve run out of painkillers and it's so fucking bad

[normal hedge]

whats hard about it

[cobalt blade]

hits cant be evaded is local btw

[nova minnow]

fuck

so that doesnt work either

The real method of playing spectral shield throw of shattering is to not play it

[tranquil sedge]

whys this important

[nova minnow]

Fun

Does offhand shield count as weapon for slayer's overwhelm?

[karmic gust]

shield is not weapon

[nova minnow]

[limpid prairie]

shields feel a lot like minions

the runegraft works?

[nova minnow]

the sinestral runegraft works

ok hear me out,
diamond dessicated screams

[surreal mulch]

do people care about the level of yellow beasts they buy?

[split palm]

no

[cobalt blade]

the only beast ilvl matters for is the exalt beast

[normal hedge]

exalt beast my beloved

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/e4L2UaVbB0

[surreal mulch]

it is then kinda suspicious how people sell low ilvl yellow beasts for 6c but high level for 10c

do they know

[normal hedge]

dont think so

[tranquil umbra]

there is an exalt beast?

[normal hedge]

it doenst consume strands so pretty neat

[dark kite]

does having negative rarity do anything

[tranquil umbra]

yes

less likely to get uniques

[normal hedge]

less gold as well, if you care about it

[dark kite]

hmm

[nova minnow]

its ok to have negative iir if u farm bosses

[dark kite]

im trying to find a ring for my str stacker

i may have to just make one

[cobalt blade]

ye

[nova minnow]

Brutal, Massive or Impenetrable is better?

If you had to choose one of the three

[cobalt blade]

i mean it objectively depends oon your build

but impen because i like es :3

[nova minnow]

only correct answer is replenishing

[cobalt blade]

only if your referring to unnerfed replenishing

they should've let us play with that smhh

[unique silo]

https://pobb.in/19r7NTvLtTPw anyone reckon how i can get more dps?

[nova minnow]

i want a pantheon shrine belt

Lunaris Shrine belt would be so nutty

actually, completely busted

[cobalt blade]

i think 12p clusters should beat primordial bond

[unique silo]

ohh yea thats true but id loose ignite

[fierce tendon]

anyone got any video ideas?

[cobalt blade]

why are you even making them ignite

it doesnt like stack per minion

it just deals damage equal to the highest ignite inflicted

[split maple]

40 horrors no hypo

[rancid seal]

oh god

[unique silo]

it looks cool tbh lmao

[rancid seal]

do you follow a build

[cobalt blade]

understandable

[unique silo]

i did but said build was for last league. so i used what seemed cool to me xd

[split maple]

🤔 snowstorm and sadist infront

ig i can cope on assassin mark as sole source of pc gen

[rancid seal]

i am all for self build making i never followed build but ur dmg and survival is 😖 as in very low

[unique silo]

xD yea i know what you mean. its not all bad tho, i breeze through normal to mid content fine. hoping to fight my first uber today

[heady cliff]

kanai's cube in poe2?

headblud or megahunter inc?

[limpid prairie]

#2┃general

[grizzled lily]

are the servers on fire?

[vocal tinsel]

always have been

[mint radish]

Anyone know how the Aul taxi works? I have one ready, and I think I just run them to the boss portal, but do I like leave, and they beat the boss, or do I just stay outside of the portal in the instance?

[hard cliff]

Holy crap lmao

[hard cliff]

I hate clusters bro

good luck with yours

[unique silo]

Taxi for me is I enter and don't press anything for that 1 minute iirc invulnerability. Or just wait for them outside

2.8kc for a syndicate medallion wtf is this

[mint radish]

Taxi is when the client completed the run, and you save your delve node to run it again

[finite quail]

what a clusterfuck

[lean urchin]

what i see is a tree taking the path of least resistance while branching out

[finite quail]

nah I gotta fix top right

I can save 2 points if I get rid of the travel nodes

Its just that I got no gold and no respecs lmao

[lean urchin]

i just assumed, i didnt actually check

[finite quail]

[karmic gust]

why are you clicking all those nodes in first place holy

[finite quail]

polymath

[karmic gust]

also generally you would path through middle here for the jewel socket you also get better mana mastery like that

[finite quail]

Ik, need to change that later

but no gold or respecs

just got to maps

soulrend is smooth and comfy but kinda slow

generating frenzy charges with frenzy

at 50% chance to hit

[lean urchin]

bloodrage?

[finite quail]

no point

actively harmful

4% of your life and es per second with no es recharge while you have it up is fucked

I don't have enough recovery to withstand that

plus frenzy is only 2 gem sockets to use just fine for the moment

since the charges last 32 seconds

I need a frenzy on kill ring that doesnt suck ass from betrayal

I need some fucking instilling orbs

im so not used to having to constantly repress my utility flasks

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[karmic gust]

i usued to run cwdt cold snap + vaal cold snap on tricksters a while ago when bane trickster wasnt a troll build :d

so before trickster rework and bunch of other stuff lol

[finite quail]

yeah but thats cwdt

I dont wanna take damage

I already have a stunlock issue so thats out the window

[karmic gust]

well vaal cold snap isnt cwdt :d

[finite quail]

dayum ok

[ruby geyser]

I've only ever felt my soulrend build was decent with onslaught and righteous fire. need hella cast/projectile speed/life and flask recovery. Still never really completed it but without like any cast speed it feels kinda slow

[finite quail]

Too bad I can't use it for nun rn

[opaque sphinx]

spiral mines

skip the shit cast time by mining

[opaque sphinx]

i run it on HoT

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[frigid wedge]

jermer

[mental nymph]

[surreal mulch]

holy shit I just realised. I can use vengeful cry constantly

shame it's a warcry tho so you can't cwdt it

[spice pecan]

cast on jerma

[finite quail]

cast on jermite

[cloud pilot]

triggers every time jerma streams

[surreal mulch]

speaking of which what if you build up a shitton of trauma then cash it out using crushing fist

[cloud pilot]

(good luck)

[surreal mulch]

still better than cast on death

[opaque sphinx]

might have to sell it as ice trap

thats kinda nasty

[spice pecan]

uncorrupted double anoint?

[finite quail]

blight drop, chance spam until unique

[opaque sphinx]

nvm there's no other base for me to try again with

[spice pecan]

sheesh

[finite quail]

if wrong unique, use the bestiary orb

to turn it back into magic

[opaque sphinx]

yeh i imprinted 13 times

[finite quail]

once again

[finite quail]

beast prison

[opaque sphinx]

got lucky on the chances tho

bro what the fuck i actually hit heavy strike b2b

[spice pecan]

looool

[finite quail]

lmfao

hsot time

[spice pecan]

with those anoints ice trap was actually kinda good

[opaque sphinx]

do i just play csnop

[spice pecan]

ooh

that's kinda hot

[surreal mulch]

I wish I could have double ashes

[frigid wedge]

no

[frigid wedge]

no

HoT

[thick goblet]

how many div so far

[spice pecan]

does HoT even care about soul thief tho

[finite quail]

2% es on kill

so yes

Also 10% es so also yes

[spice pecan]

i thought HoT usually plays life

[finite quail]

no??

all the hot builds I've seen run both life and es

because you need a lot of recovery

[spice pecan]

huh, you're right

[dim turtle]

[finite quail]

[spice pecan]

yeah i thought they needed life recoup or something

[opaque sphinx]

86~

[finite quail]

way harder to stack enough of it

plus going es leech is a double win

because that way you get a bigger healthpool

[opaque sphinx]

soul thief es on kill lets me drop ghost reaver and save 4 passive pts to put into block/dmg

https://pobb.in/ZCx2PImBS-ss

rn im missing the serpent stance wheel in game for the ghost reaver

[frigid wedge]

he's literally playing hot

and rolling it for his build

[spice pecan]

yeah im aware of that

but csop is cool

[opaque sphinx]

it is

i rolled over it alrdy but i may genuinely leaguestart csnop next league

its so fun

or at least first reroll into it, im not sure its startable. need too much cast speed

[spice pecan]

you also need woke spell cascade

[opaque sphinx]

could go nexro but then u gotta ff the pcharge occy nodes

[spice pecan]

or greater spell cascade whatever its called now

[opaque sphinx]

u dont need it but it definitely helps a shit ton

wheres that drop now

[spice pecan]

good question

[opaque sphinx]

ik echo is atziri

[frigid wedge]

PLEASE HIT

FUUUUUUUUUUUU

[spice pecan]

choir of the storm immediately HOLY

[finite quail]

ANNUL

[frigid wedge]

its taunting me

[finite quail]

beat it up

[analog nest]

guys just to be sure since i can't fathom my recovery ; how strong is 5% insta leech on a build that attacks like 6 times per second ?

[finite quail]

you're asking the wrong question

[analog nest]

is it like 30% max Es/Hp per second?

[finite quail]

it depends on your damage

[analog nest]

i mean milions as always i guess

[finite quail]

then check pob

it tells you how much leech you get

[analog nest]

it adds to 350 es leech but it feels wrong since from testing i can go from 0 to 100 instantly

[golden sinew]

hi. there is a way (or something i can check in the site) to know when GGG will start the periodic discounts on the shop?

[spice pecan]

poedb has a timer that shows which sale starts when

[finite quail]

https://poedb.tw/us/

[opaque sphinx]

2nd time HoA

[finite quail]

[opaque sphinx]

bro no fucking way

[finite quail]

lmfao

[analog nest]

that's why i'm asking man

[spice pecan]

HUGE

[frigid wedge]

;-;

[spice pecan]

it is now ruined

why have you done this

[frigid wedge]

i need diff mods

[analog nest]

someone with experience and calculations may be better than me at understanding the math behind it

[golden sinew]

Thank you!!

[finite quail]

then you should ask in the help channels

[frigid wedge]

i need this but full t1

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[analog nest]

i mean , i can't casually talk about it here?

[opaque sphinx]

,,

[finite quail]

I never said that

I said you should ask in the help channels

[opaque sphinx]

bro

[hazy roost]

herald of ice

[analog nest]

bro how in the heck are you getting all heralds back to back

that's insane lol

[opaque sphinx]

i wish it was back to back

im poor now

[hazy roost]

youre guaranteed herald of thunder for sure if you get herald of ice

[opaque sphinx]

225d used

[frigid wedge]

wtf is that

[finite quail]

manaman cluster

except no int

but insane mana regen

well or flat mana lmao

96% mana regen

[frigid wedge]

fuck it maybe i just beast lock

kek

[finite quail]

IMPRINT

[frigid wedge]

i tried to divine it

i clicked 3d

it didnt change

fuck you game

[finite quail]

imprint

then foulborn regal

until good mod

[frigid wedge]

yeah thats the idea

[finite quail]

good idea

[frigid wedge]

depends on morrigan price

[finite quail]

[frigid wedge]

might check norm regal

and fb regal

[mental nymph]

[finite quail]

fbs are probably under 100c

idk current economy but they cant be that much

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[finite quail]

fb regals

[frigid wedge]

no im comparing morrigan to price of imprint

ur checking 2 outcomes

[spice pecan]

just saw someone foulborn ex a sick explode chest and it hit t7 mana

[frigid wedge]

LMAO

[finite quail]

[spice pecan]

foulborn currency is 100% a fucking scam

[frigid wedge]

its not a scam

[spice pecan]

it so is

[finite quail]

well look at it on the bright side

[frigid wedge]

it lets u check second outcomes with locks

[finite quail]

it could have been t8 mana

[mental nymph]

lemme guess

strands

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[finite quail]

its a jewel

[mental nymph]

no

[frigid wedge]

its a cluster

[finite quail]

yes

[mental nymph]

i was referring to mythic comment

[finite quail]

he said fb ex

[spice pecan]

no strands

[mental nymph]

see

jokes aside

good luck eri

[covert ferry]

Best build to rush endgame in GSF/SSF?
Refresh league with the guildies. Did KF Totems Champ. Tankiness isn't so bad with my 41 Fortification from madness boots and passives. Haven't been able to get someone ready to complete Simulacrum, but once we do, dmg will be nicer from the bloodline to apply madness to enemies. In the meantime, dmg is pretty bad. So wondering about other setups.
I know multiple major gamers were running Uul Netol's Kiss setup for Gauntlet, so I'm assuming that could be a viable approach. Started looking into that. Any other recommendations?

[mental nymph]

ik youre having fun crafting this cluster

[frigid wedge]

mm

better than the cogwork

[mental nymph]

wouldve tried to roll one as well

[mental nymph]

but frac base is 12d

[spice pecan]

[finite quail]

probably some kinda miner build

exsang mines or sum

[frigid wedge]

oh

[opaque sphinx]

playing tft while a bunch of my shit liquidates so i can continue this amulet

[frigid wedge]

ugh

[finite quail]

you cant imprint it if its fraced?

[frigid wedge]

guess its lock

[mental nymph]

you sure strands werent used in this?

cause this is a rough craft

[spice pecan]

there aren't any on the item, but i dont know, i'm just talking about foulborn exalted orb

[mental nymph]

almost every step is a gamble

[spice pecan]

and how it slammed tier fucking SEVEN mana

in the PL a foulborn ex is 2 divines

[frigid wedge]

foulborns weight it

not remove tiers

[mental nymph]

2 elevated mods?

[spice pecan]

oh i'm aware

[frigid wedge]

its like delve fossils that say less

[spice pecan]

it's just such a scam, they hit stuff like that all the time

[frigid wedge]

hi smurf

[spice pecan]

again i'm talking about foulborn exalt outcomes, the other parts don't matter lol

[mental nymph]

IKIK

[spice pecan]

it could have 12 dyadic pentacle sockets for all i know

[vestal wolf]

Is anyone having an issue where server latency is never consistent, is it me or something else

[finite quail]

change servers

[frigid wedge]

sometimes

[vestal wolf]

like is this the servers or what

[frigid wedge]

if ur changing server and going into the same area it doesnt change server till u create a new instance somewhere

[plush gulch]

do you think it's possible to make a hit base fireball build work ?

we can use pinpoint

[spice pecan]

vaal fireball spam build seems kinda cool

[frigid wedge]

OH MY GOD

WAIT

NO

u cant reset the fucking lock

without a div

kek

kms

[plush gulch]

I didn't thought about fireball

vaal *

[frigid wedge]

actually ig i could fog

[vestal wolf]

which item, you can usually imprint and itll break lock

[frigid wedge]

thats aids

[spice pecan]

cant imprint fracc ye

[plush gulch]

sad we cannot have the random proj speed mod

it would work so well here

[spice pecan]

i wonder if something like vaal fireball would actually use the vengeant cascade anoint

[frigid wedge]

ah yes

500c per beast lock

ig im lookin for mana

kek

theres a t1 res

[plush gulch]

I know it doesn't shotgun but explosion can so stuff like hydrosphere is a dps boost

base dmg feel decent

dmg effectiveness too

[spice pecan]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/Beehyve-1020/BB_Guns_?i=0&search=skills%3DFireball

typical eblade inquis setup but

[finite quail]

walls can shotgun too iirc?

[plush gulch]

I would guess so ?

not sure

that seem a bit scuffed though 🤔

[cosmic sapphire]

they can

add in some CoC frostwall memery

[plush gulch]

can be funny spamming frostall

[finite quail]

no

[covert ferry]

Another question. If we can get Foulborn Ghostwrithe and basic or foulborn Rathpithe, what's the easiest lifestacker setup to get up and running?

[finite quail]

frost wall stopping player projectiles was a thing many years ago

[cosmic sapphire]

[spice pecan]

inquisitor probably

[finite quail]

enemy frostwalls can end projectiles tho

[spice pecan]

also your own frost wall cannot make projectiles shotgun

[covert ferry]

I saw a really strong shock nova of procession setup, but they strongly recommend MB as baseline for defenses 🙁

[spice pecan]

or your projectiles dont interact with your own frost walls in the way that they interact with enemy frost walls

[finite quail]

remember when it did work and you could trap enemies with vaal glacial hammer in a cage and spam spark?

I do

[spice pecan]

i do too

[finite quail]

Pepperidge farm remembers...

[spice pecan]

ill post the clip

[cosmic sapphire]

I forgot about that, it was back in 2.4

[spice pecan]

https://youtu.be/q63wqXCAVUM?t=15

[finite quail]

the silliest shit

[limpid prairie]

I want a crit multi fractured helical ring what other mod its good to fracture? woul rather do 50/50 fractures

[spice pecan]

boss actually just gets microwaved

[finite quail]

Lmfao

Couldnt put it better if I tried

[spice pecan]

👀

[finite quail]

dude

[spice pecan]

time is a flat circle i swear lmao

[finite quail]

that makes me remember when scientists do tests with extreme levels of heat

like that one test where they managed to create a temperature higher than the sun's for a few milliseconds

Imagine you do that to someone in pvp lmfao

[plush gulch]

isn't this spiderman 2

[finite quail]

https://www.iflscience.com/the-hottest-thing-ever-created-by-humans-was-over-300000-times-hotter-than-the-sun-79656

[plush gulch]

I was joking

I believe you

they do the same with machine that have insane magnet

that run a fraction of a second and they blow up metal door

[finite quail]

yes thats what im referncing

[wheat sinew]

fuck fuck fuck fuck I fumbled

fuck I should've bought this before doing this whole uue grinddddd

[finite quail]

why would you

the actual set sucks fucking ass

and whos gonna care about the elder kill count

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[rancid sluice]

huge step down from last league for sure

[finite quail]

completely terrible

Its not even a matter of rushing it out

the concept alone is terrible

[rancid sluice]

the achieve one is better than the pass tbh

[wheat sinew]

both suck xd

but yeah just because I killed 389 UUEs peperegret

[rancid sluice]

not their best to be sure

[wheat sinew]

could've shown a fancy number xddd

[kindred jacinth]

guys
https://x.com/Brendzun/status/2053519305535357349
whats the name for a new path of exile player

Brendzun (@Brendzun)

My favourite thing about video game communities is when they have nicknames for new players

Warframe : Baby Tenno
FFXIV : Sprouts
Destiny 2 : Victims
Deep Rock Galactic : Greenbeards

X · May 10, 2026, 4:55 PM

[finite quail]

we dont have one

yet

[tranquil umbra]

tourist

[spice pecan]

sane people

[rancid sluice]

'lost' 😉

[cold sable]

can lightning damage inflict a DoT

[spice pecan]

sure, if you make it able to

[cold sable]

iirc people said doryanis is bad because it doesnt protect vs lightning DoT

[spice pecan]

it does not

mana donut mobs will instakill you if you touch the donut

[gentle chasm]

theres like 2 lightning dots in the game

[spice pecan]

but that doesn't make doryani bad

[cold sable]

so enemies can inflict a lightning DoT?

[finite quail]

there is no lightning dot damage in the game the player can deal afaik

[spice pecan]

it's mana donut and something else

[cold sable]

or is it just like a normal dot that is converted to lightning

[tranquil umbra]

there are like 3 sources of lightning dot in the game

[spice pecan]

it is a lightning dot

[cold sable]

is it considered a "elemental ailment"

[finite quail]

Its mana donuts, I think one of the elder bosses maybe? and idk what else

[finite quail]

no

[tranquil umbra]

No

[spice pecan]

it is not an ailment

[finite quail]

elemental ailments are freeze chill ignite shock sap scorch and brittle

[tranquil umbra]

was it like shaper beam and donuts

[cold sable]

oki

[tranquil umbra]

that deal lightning dot

[gentle chasm]

baran mobs

[livid quarry]

rf taking Ls

[gentle chasm]

and the traps in heist too

[finite quail]

baran's ground effects

[gentle chasm]

ye true

[cold sable]

asking cuz im making a wardloop and its kinda scary to deal with DoTs

i only have 850 unreserved life

[astral shadow]

2 mirror to do 10m dps instead of 5m

[normal hedge]

2 mirrors for 50% more dmg is worth it

[astral shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-risitas-paelleras-e-tu-juan-joya-borja-gif-22795376

[livid quarry]

[limpid prairie]

why do the orders not complete each other

[hazy roost]

because its like 2.4031 or something stupid like that

[stuck flower]

Is there anyway to make damage taken (from hits) life recoup apply to Energy Shield instead of Life without being Witch?

[spice pecan]

that's... how energy shield always works?

[normal hedge]

you mean chaos damage?

[stuck flower]

Im tlaking about life recoup

sorry

[normal hedge]

well then you should have said it

[spice pecan]

there is es recoup

[astral shadow]

take es recoup

maven belt with new power charges

[stuck flower]

where?

[hazy roost]

theres like 1 unique and the secret forbidden flesh/flame set on witch for es recoup and thats it

[spice pecan]

but no afaik there is no way to change life recoup into es recoup

[limpid prairie]

will you be interested in some absortion charges

[stuck flower]

isnt that elemental damange only

[spice pecan]

yeah, absorption charges are like the only real way, and that doesn't work for phys

[astral shadow]

yeh just be chaos immune and convert phys to ele

[stuck flower]

Anyway to get absorption charges w.o swapping the belt?

[spice pecan]

nope

[hazy roost]

no

[spice pecan]

arn's anguish is the only source of them

[stuck flower]

hmmm darn

okay thanks

[hazy roost]

thats literally it

that belt

[limpid prairie]

can you AG give you charges in some way

[hazy roost]

and the secret forbidden flesh/flame node on witch

[limpid prairie]

Also why do we want ES recoup? there are better recovery options

[astral shadow]

share your charges with allies by keystone/hh buffs to linked minion

[stuck flower]

I am using statis prison, and I am using ES for mana, and it would be nice to find a way to make the Damage Recoup for life from statis prison apply to the ES somehow

[hazy roost]

they share power charges tho as they cannot gain absorption charges

[limpid prairie]

Maybe i dont know if minion can generate charges

[spice pecan]

you're not getting absorption charges without the belt

[astral shadow]

there is other one

[hazy roost]

well theres just no options besides the belt and nine lives ff/ff for witch

[cold sable]

woiuld it be considered a debuff

would runegraft of the warp work on reducing it?

[hazy roost]

no

you either stand inside the donut or you dont

[spice pecan]

it's really fun when you get one of those burrowing wurm rares that has the donut

and it kills you as the wurm unburrows but before the donut renders

[hazy roost]

i dont think theres any lightning dots that can be inflicted on you

[spice pecan]

extremely cool and fun

[cold sable]

ohh

thats what u mean by donut

i thought u meant the orb enemies

little lightning balls

[hazy roost]

aside from the donut tho, lightning dots are so rare that theyre not really a problem

[cold sable]

also

does 'ward shatter' break my wardloop

mm

guess i should go get the ascendancy and try it

[heavy flax]

When I enter my hideout the ping is between 120-140, whereas my normal ping is 19-24, this started happening 2 days ago, when I go to check the client.txt in the game files, I see that the instance that GGG places me in is on an American IP, and my local server is Brazilian, in addition to that when logging in I also choose the Brazilian server, and I have also not been able to resolve it in the last 2 days

[cobalt blade]

no

its a skill that triggers when your ward breaks

[heady cliff]

GGG silently moves you to another realm if target realm is overloaded

althrough at this point of the league is it highly unlikely

[heavy flax]

This only solves it when I go into maps, when I return to hideout the ping goes back to 120, I already changed the hideout, and its instance and it didn't solve it

[heady cliff]

perhaps some US player triggers hideout creation during async trade?

if you trade a lot

[heavy flax]

Maybe this could affect it, but I haven't sold anything recently and my async trade has 3 items that are currently worthless, so I discard this option

I remember that approximately 2.3 days ago ggg released a patch on PoE 2 and that's when it all started, before everything was normal

[hidden willow]

im new, be gentle lol

[spice pecan]

are you looking for the poe2 channel

[hidden willow]

nope, and I dont know why the PoE2 tag is adopted lol

[thick goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-no-excuse-gif-24460693

[spice pecan]

word

[hidden willow]

lol

well, this is fun, I join disco and my game freezes lol

[heavy flax]

@heady cliff

[spice pecan]

poe2?

[heady cliff]

eh... wrong poe channel

[grim pivot]

#2┃general

[heady cliff]

poe2 might have its own quirks in realm allocation

[cold sable]

incredible

i go to run olorth bloodline and dont alch the map

drop a iron flask on the way to the boss

XD

[heavy flax]

Sometimes when I put it in a specific hideout the ping returns to normal, but in the hideouts that I usually use, Plateau of Gods and Monolith, the ping is very high

[spice pecan]

xdding

[finite quail]

on what exactly, the mana donut?

because no, its just an aoe dot

[spice pecan]

are your issues in poe1 or poe2

[finite quail]

nothing else

[cold sable]

i meant like DoTs that deal dmg

[heavy flax]

LoL I hadn't seen it, sorry

[finite quail]

this is because the instance you're swapping to is a preexisting instance you already opened before, so when you change your hideout back to one you were already using when the ping issue started, you're jsut going back to the instance with the ping issues

[spice pecan]

so if you are standing inside the mana donut, you do get a debuff

[finite quail]

I think atleast

[heavy flax]

I came here by filtering what I was looking for

[finite quail]

might not be fully right

[spice pecan]

but it's not an ailment or anything

it doesn't have a duration or anything, it just either is or isn't on you depending on if you're directly in the donut

[cold sable]

hmm

[heavy flax]

And is there any way to resolve this in POE 1 that I can try to apply to POE 2?

[short prairie]

So you are fully left?

[finite quail]

?

wdym

you either ask for poe 1 or poe 2

if you're asking about poe 2, go to the poe 2 chat

[wheat sinew]

pepepain

[finite quail]

idk about that game

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/YAF2G0f.png

so does this only affect ignite and bleed

[spice pecan]

and poison

[cold sable]

gg

[finite quail]

any ailment that causes damage to you

so bleed ignite and poison

[stuck flower]

Anyone know a way to exclude valdo maps from POE trade searches??

[cold sable]

they have a implicit

[finite quail]

map filter

lock the tier to 16

[cold sable]

convert maps to whatever

[finite quail]

or in the top bar, search for "Map"

Cant remember if it blocks valdo maps tho so if it doesnt, do the previous thing of lockingj the tier to 16

[stuck flower]

ah yeah just putting "16" for the map tier seems to work, ty

[finite quail]

np

[stuck flower]

how are there no t16 maps with 150+% item quantity for sale? >.< lol

[finite quail]

cause they may not roll that high? idk

keep in mind you're searching for normal t16s

not nightmare maps

[stuck flower]

Im trying to do this Challenge

[finite quail]

what is it

[stuck flower]

somehow ive almost completed it w/o trying

maybe its 16.5s

[finite quail]

keep in mind its the item quantity after all of the modifiers

[stuck flower]

oh that changes things then

[finite quail]

so the item quantity you see in the mod listing when inside the map

you can get that easily with decent 8mod maps

or nightmare maps

[onyx adder]

if ur doing regular 6 mod maps with quant altars then u hit it more than u dont assuming u have the usual atlas nodes for quant

[stuck flower]

word, ill lower it to 125% and buy some

[onyx adder]

since quant altars count as it adds to the quant in the mod listing

[lean urchin]

i think someone rolled quant on my food because im feeling stuffed

[opal ingot]

and you didn't share with me?

[spice pecan]

i wish someone would roll quant onto my bank account

nvm 100% more currency wouldnt do anything to $5

[normal hedge]

thats why you should aim for rarity do you can drop more $

[rancid sluice]

i just got back from my moms i usually cook for her for mothers day i asked her what she wanted, 'you should make nachos' pft dont have to ask me twice 😂

[onyx adder]

I heard fubgun does guides for this stuff

[short prairie]

Why you want more $ when you can’t spend them all already

[onyx adder]

Apparently his trick is to recommend a total dogshit job but run really fast while doing it and u get paid more

[normal hedge]

i can

with torch light infinite

[rancid sluice]

the state of that game saddens me. i spent soo much time on the first two

[normal hedge]

tli is pretty good too sad drop pets are a thing

[short prairie]

I don’t even know what that is

Nor know what torch light is

[karmic gust]

its when you grab torch then it does fire thingy and then light comes out

and torch light infinite is that but you have infinite fire thingy

obviously

[short prairie]

[karmic gust]

[rancid sluice]

tbf torchlight's pets have always had more abilities than most other arpg's .. own stash can send it to town to sell shit like that was even in the early ones

[short prairie]

The wick and oil and fire are infinite

[whole bluff]

Torchlight Finite sounds quite limited

[short prairie]

Finite

[karmic gust]

torchlight finite is survival game obviously

[whole bluff]

yeah

[opaque sphinx]

nah dude

this one was actually b2b

ggg taking the piss

[karmic gust]

need to level up WC to cut down wood so your torch light do not goes out while killing monsters

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/B8UlMZo.png

'chance to remove a hex after damaging' means from me or from the enemy

[whole bluff]

the hex it consumes to boom boom

[spice pecan]

"My Woodcutting level is: 99."

[karmic gust]

necro ancient skull crit hop

missed the chance

[cold sable]

ohh

[karmic gust]

smh

[cold sable]

i c

[opaque sphinx]

[whole bluff]

are you sinking divine orbs?

[karmic gust]

redwood trees will never recover

[opaque sphinx]

no...

[ornate rock]

Thanks :D I worked hard on it

[opaque sphinx]

i only put 463 div into it

[whole bluff]

then what are you doing xD

[normal hedge]

do you still have a imprint

[opaque sphinx]

[whole bluff]

ayyy

rip

[opaque sphinx]

im running out of shit to liquidate

might have to sell the one shotter

[cold sable]

what are some ways you can reduce damage over time taken other than like poision/ignite/cb immunity

[vocal tinsel]

chancing double annointed rare amu

[spice pecan]

arakaali pantheon

lethe shade

[opaque sphinx]

yeah

[normal hedge]

arent you gonna double influence it

[opaque sphinx]

i can go back and influence it but i really dont wanna chance it again

[normal hedge]

fair

[opaque sphinx]

no real reason to besides style points either cuz i can never fit a bbd

[vocal tinsel]

bbd?

[opaque sphinx]

bound by destiny

[vocal tinsel]

ah

[whole bluff]

obviously big beautiful dominican

[finite quail]

big beautiful di

ctator

[normal hedge]

big beautiful divine

[whole bluff]

Kira just spent 463d looking for a big beautiful divine

[astral brook]

is astrolabe farm good

or was early league only?

[fair palm]

how long has the league been going?

[normal hedge]

@short prairie

what are you doing

[finite quail]

poedb.tw

[short prairie]

Hi you bbd

[normal hedge]

what is bbd

[short prairie]

Big beautiful diva

[livid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/big-emma-engvid-huge-massive-gif-25786601

[short prairie]

Touching grass with mom soon

[finite quail]

HUMONGOUS BODONHONKEROOS

HUUUGE HOMONGOGONGOBONGOLOGONGOS

[short prairie]

Homunculus

[whole bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/so-the-object-basically-gets-bigger-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-object-becomes-larger-object-becomes-bigger-gif-21920953

[fair palm]

ty king

[finite quail]

from 128k soulrend dot... to 138.5k dot with prodigal perfection

[short prairie]

That’s like from 1 dps to 1.01 dps

[finite quail]

bro let me be happy about upgrades

[short prairie]

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma985-cry-jerma-scrunch-awful-gif-13739413765271655122

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/ey1jV1g.png

[finite quail]

the reflect amount is reduced

[cold sable]

does the reduced effect apply to the '#% of dmg cant be reflected

fuck

[finite quail]

from the 25% reduced effect

[cold sable]

okay

[finite quail]

just reroll it into normal charge recovery

or better yet

move the reflect mod to another flask

thats easier to maintain

cause 40 charges every 4.8 seconds is scuffed for reflect immunity

[grizzled lily]

https://tenor.com/view/sound-the-car-alarm-cat-gif-9895924581726852336

[cold sable]

its wardloop

flask would be infinite

[short prairie]

We could tell

[finite quail]

oh thats fine then

but yeah reduced effect bad

[cold sable]

when ward is broken it counts as damage taken right

https://i.imgur.com/he8QYZW.png

for this?

[short prairie]

Did you take a hit

[finite quail]

I don't think ward protects against dots senses

[short prairie]

It doesn’t

[stuck flower]

What spawns tornados in maps? Delirium ? I swear to god I never notice them and get chain stuck in them lol

[cobalt blade]

no but you can be taking damage to break it which works with that mod

[finite quail]

bismuth ores

[spice pecan]

tornadoes are usually from bismuth ore

[stuck flower]

Ah

[cobalt blade]

(specifying that because you can break ward with celestial mathemathics without taking damage)

but also its bad you have recoup

[cold sable]

i dont have recoup

and am not using mathematics

[cobalt blade]

you shouuld have recoup

[cold sable]

im too poor

cant afford the ring rn

i have "dmg while leeching" on gloves tho

[cobalt blade]

theres recoup on tree

[cobalt blade]

your life is always full

so your leech is never active unless your dead

[cold sable]

it goes down when the loop is happening

[cobalt blade]

since if anything gets past your ward you kinda just fucking die

[cold sable]

like for split second

[cobalt blade]

[spice pecan]

is this a regular wardlooper with olroth's btw

i've been like half paying attention

[cobalt blade]

they linked an iron flask so probably ward break

[spice pecan]

oh duh, and it was doryani yeah

man i haven't played a doryani build in a hot minute

what are ppl using it on besides budget scion armor stacker

[cobalt blade]

idt i can ever play them without pof sublime because of mana siphoner and once you can buy pof sublime idont see a reason to play it

[cold sable]

https://pobb.in/cdJiw9jP5Aq1

[spice pecan]

i played CI doryani LS slayer in 3.25 as like my first real build

[cold sable]

this is my build atm