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[blazing spear]

I used the Chamber of Innocence theme for the Underworld

[limpid prairie]

build making? that sounds fun
full equipment?

[blazing spear]

It's strange, but awesome to hear hell with such a holy, slow and methodical track

[plush gulch]

nah like im telling him what I intend to do and he creates the setup to be immortal and have great dmg

[stuck phoenix]

Well, I can kinda understand using it as background music in a different game, but I would never listen to it for just listening

[plush gulch]

like I want to build around this ability

I thought I was scammed

im not sure I didn't try to get scammed

xD

at the start I was telling him yeah I intend to do this and that

[cobalt blade]

Yknow i wonder how well you could make a soundtrack mod to match poe music to terraria

[blazing spear]

I listen to the more intense tracks by themselves

[stuck phoenix]

Probably would be fine

I'm pretty sure poe has more tracks

[blazing spear]

I used the game version of the searing exarch for wof

[stuck phoenix]

Might need to reuse some track

[blazing spear]

It was such a good fit

[cobalt blade]

Uuh idk if it does tbh

i think terraria has around 50-60 used ones excluding music boxes

[blazing spear]

I also used the old breach track for eater of worlds, scourge for eoc and delve theme as the alt cavern theme

[stuck phoenix]

A quick Google sent me to a YouTube video from 2018 saying that poe had 57 then

[blazing spear]

and maven for lunatic cultist

[cobalt blade]

oh fair enough then

[stuck phoenix]

And I can tell you that they've added a whole bunch since

[cobalt blade]

Yeh

[cobalt blade]

maven for nebula pillar imo

[stuck phoenix]

Many new bosses have their own tracks

[blazing spear]

The thing is that I dislike it

[stuck phoenix]

And some new mechanics too iirc

[frigid wedge]

maybe divinity will help me

[blazing spear]

At that point, all of the tracks are from C&C

and Mental Omega

Transitioning from Maven to Act on Instinct was an experience

[frigid wedge]

shes helping a little

[mental nymph]

[blazing spear]

I hate the credits theme so much

I used the Secrets of the Atlas theme instead

and it fitted really well

[opal ingot]

xdd someone craft this

[blazing spear]

idfk

essence spam into t1 essence

[opal ingot]

step 1 craft gg gloves
step 2 win the whatever odds to get those exact implicit combinations at the temple

[frigid wedge]

gl on the corrupt

[blazing spear]

then eldritch currency, and t1 life, shitter prefix and open pref

then, you veil and try to get conv

[stuck phoenix]

Please actually put the implicit sells for more

[blazing spear]

craft the other conv

and temple

200d in the shitter

how do i become helpful :3

[opal ingot]

get in the circle

have connections

[blazing spear]

i want to be helpful tho

[opal ingot]

start camping in help channels

[frigid wedge]

i feel constant guilt if im not active in this server rn

[blazing spear]

I do not have it and experience the same guilt

[ebon tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-funny-black-man-gif-12405487584384624752

Bring back locking for temple

[short prairie]

Craft this

[opal ingot]

thats easy

just press chaos orb

then double corrupt

oh theres delve

and veiled

and elevated

[blazing spear]

craft this

[frigid wedge]

i keep getting aheadache in the evenings

[plush gulch]

talk to your doctor

[short prairie]

Craft this

[plush gulch]

theyu should help

[frigid wedge]

why

[plush gulch]

they probably could know why

and how to fix it

[blazing spear]

I actually did it lmao

[frigid wedge]

also

[blazing spear]

recomb

[frigid wedge]

"your doctor"

i like this one

ur funny

[blazing spear]

did you mean "your family's doctor"

[devout shoal]

craft this

[short prairie]

Now try crafting this without rwcomb

[surreal mulch]

does flame dash hit

it doesnt right?

[blazing spear]

how tf

[frigid wedge]

this might be the only reason i havent gone to bed yet

[surreal mulch]

yeah all the nightmares

[blazing spear]

uwu

[frigid wedge]

...

i HATE

HATE

HATE

the fucking stigma around asmr

its not all

ooh

mommy roleplay

[wheat sinew]

mmmmm

[blazing spear]

it's soothing

[frigid wedge]

some of its just more complex white noise

some of it is someone just

talking

about random shit

[surreal mulch]

if i want white noise i put on rain sounds

[blazing spear]

though I do not like it personally

[frigid wedge]

but you cant bring it u

[plush gulch]

@frigid wedge don't you have one doctor that you stick with where you live Q?

[frigid wedge]

without someone lookin at you fucking weird

[plush gulch]

so they know you

[blazing spear]

I did not

[frigid wedge]

we dont have walk in clinics

[plush gulch]

we don't either we take appointment

they busy

[blazing spear]

I like listening to the random noises in my area

[frigid wedge]

we have 3 month advance booked appt or sitting in AnE for 13 hours straight

[blazing spear]

hearing people talk

ASMR is mostly that experience

I never needed it

but it's soothing and comforting and nice

[frigid wedge]

she almost entirely does ambience

[wheat sinew]

hehe

[plush gulch]

here we have appointment but we generally try to have one doctor so they know us instead of meeting one new everytime they have your file and stuff, sometimes they often know/follow your family too

[rancid sluice]

watching bob ross is where its at. between his soft talking and thee sound of the paintbrushes, peak nap background

[plush gulch]

but it's not a rule I can look for other doctor if I want

but sometimes they ask you who is your doctor on files and stuff

[frigid wedge]

go look at some softly spoken asmr stuff

its very similar

[rancid sluice]

yeah ive watched some

[blazing spear]

I also like hearing the world in general

[thick goblet]

reminds me how one of the most popular asmr reddit posts is a 6hr purgegamers dota patch notes reaction vid

[blazing spear]

should I whisper the 3.29 patch notes?

[plush gulch]

25 day of kakfa being my friend

birthday soon

one month

[mental nymph]

french language detected

salut

[blazing spear]

salut

[plush gulch]

don't you see im hiding from other french here 💀

don't blow up my cover

[blazing spear]

I know some french

[plush gulch]

you are one criminal

also

dangerous individual

[plush gulch]

people say they know french and they know 10 words and 2 sentences 😭

[blazing spear]

I can read it, though I can no longer write or speak it

[plush gulch]

why did you stop

[blazing spear]

I had to get to an A2 level

I needed to get an exam

[plush gulch]

how could you stop using the best language

I see

[blazing spear]

I did not need it anymore

[plush gulch]

pff you always need french

[blazing spear]

My native language is romanian lmao

[plush gulch]

everyone does

[frigid wedge]

ive run 1 map in 30 minutes

[blazing spear]

I might go to France

[plush gulch]

im just joking around

[plush gulch]

nice

[blazing spear]

are you OK?

[plush gulch]

go somewhere else than paris

[blazing spear]

do you need a break?

[frigid wedge]

from being alive? that'd be nice

[cobalt blade]

its clearly irish

[frigid wedge]

temporarily

[blazing spear]

30m for a map is unhealthy

[frigid wedge]

i didnt even like

run it properly

[plush gulch]

I like british english I find it very funny

[frigid wedge]

i got halfway

[blazing spear]

then you are fucking exhausted

[frigid wedge]

and tabbed out

[blazing spear]

go to sleep

[cobalt blade]

english bad

[plush gulch]

I like english a lot

[glossy condor]

my first attempt on ssf with 4 mod... i think im cooked just by sirus alone

[blazing spear]

I use it lmao

[plush gulch]

it was a struggle to hear at the start but I practiced with my favorite youtube show

[frigid wedge]

but

but

orbeez

[plush gulch]

reading my chinese book in english didn't prepare me for british accent

and sayings

[surreal mulch]

35k regen 😎

[frigid wedge]

5c

[plush gulch]

how do you do that

[frigid wedge]

???

[blazing spear]

sanity>orbs

[surreal mulch]

hitting myself

plus untiring

[plush gulch]

you probably are a life stacker

[surreal mulch]

i got 3.1k life

[frigid wedge]

trauma stacker

jugg

[blazing spear]

i do that when i hate myself

[frigid wedge]

id assume

[surreal mulch]

i really need to fix that shit

[plush gulch]

you stack so much life

joking

[surreal mulch]

yeah

[frigid wedge]

dual of moment?

[surreal mulch]

yeah

mind you this guy is only lvl 75 so yk

[plush gulch]

tainted pact ?

[surreal mulch]

no

[plush gulch]

fuck

you are not

based

[surreal mulch]

just google untiring

[plush gulch]

im too tired

[cobalt blade]

its just this

[surreal mulch]

i was considering making golden rule tainted pact red trail flicker

[plush gulch]

just this ?

and that's enough

[surreal mulch]

you also need 90% pdr to not die

[plush gulch]

🤔 can you like play berserker and steal this node

[surreal mulch]

sure

[plush gulch]

should be better than playing jugg

[surreal mulch]

but harder to get the pdr without the other jugg node

[plush gulch]

defyance of destiny

destiny which is a girl name btw

[cobalt blade]

defiance doesnt give pdr

nor does it work with self hits

[surreal mulch]

defiance only works on enemy hits

[plush gulch]

oh sucks

[cobalt blade]

the real solution is to play jugg steal indomitable resolve

[plush gulch]

im so hyped

for poe 2

I went to last epoch

to continue play some arpg

[surreal mulch]

berker is overrated tbh

[plush gulch]

I never played berserker

I need to one day

[surreal mulch]

then why are you saying this shit

[plush gulch]

everyone play zerker

[surreal mulch]

nah

[plush gulch]

I assume it was better

like the slam area

everyone go zerker

people don't go jugg

and melee skills are pretty much all the same

[cobalt blade]

+the rage nodes

[frigid wedge]

yayyyyyy...

[surreal mulch]

unfortunately I'm probably swapping to unseen hand one day so I can't really do that

[plush gulch]

oh I always forget about this

[cobalt blade]

the main reason you go zerker slams lmao

[blazing spear]

cringe

[surreal mulch]

yeah zerker is overexert piano

[cobalt blade]

wut stops you stealing it

[surreal mulch]

like one of the most annoying ways to play the game

[plush gulch]

it was a reference 😔 from a funny video

[surreal mulch]

ascendancy notable count

[cobalt blade]

well yeah but you can just cut a normal ascend

untiring both endu charge nodes cut unstoppable

or undeniable

[blazing spear]

as a trans woman it's a cringe name

[plush gulch]

weird name from me too but I don't care much

[surreal mulch]

you need untiring for recovery, undeniable is good damage and scales trauma,unflinching max endurance charges and unrelenting to cap pdr better

[visual valve]

what you guys think about a gamified/levelable/in-lore auto-loot NPC that would also be a tiny gold sink ?

[plush gulch]

the reference was just Destiny (gamer name/tag) debating a guy and the guy kept saying destiny is a girl name and fixated on that

it was funny and ridiculous

[cobalt blade]

indomitable also scales trauma if your attack speed is high enough elsewhere since the less damage counts for prevented damage = more recovery trauma does less = higher stacks

and then ye the both endu charges nodes ofc

[blazing spear]

I use Alice and Mira, so at least I have a good name taste

[thick goblet]

like the chinese auto loot pets?

[surreal mulch]

I think if you can handle 150 trauma stacks you can handle like 200 or more. you stop using armor and start using 90 flat pdr

[plush gulch]

Brillanty I made it up looking to make a super hero name around light when I was a teen and bad in english

[frigid wedge]

mine sucks ass

[surreal mulch]

also you really, really don't need to scale more prevented damage

[visual valve]

I dont know anything about those

[frigid wedge]

in terms of decisions

[cobalt blade]

eri pretty name :3

[surreal mulch]

you start recovering your whole healthbar every frame very quickly

[plush gulch]

we talk about irl name or gamer one ?

im lost

[surreal mulch]

I have this shitty lvl 75 guy and he's already doing 35k regen

[blazing spear]

irl

[cobalt blade]

its still less damage for potential higher stacks given enough attack speed lol

doesnt super matter but ye

[plush gulch]

oh then Axel for me

[blazing spear]

my gamer name comes from remnant and 0797 was my old discord tag

[surreal mulch]

the main thing actually making me desire indomitable is even higher maxhits for actual enemies

[frigid wedge]

ig so

[surreal mulch]

not that it's necessary but it's funny to see big number in pob

[plush gulch]

recovery is the best thing ever

[cobalt blade]

ye thats another part of it lol

[plush gulch]

I hate playing rf but being immortal

so nice

[cobalt blade]

^^

[surreal mulch]

it's not

this is a maxhit game

[blazing spear]

ur eri irl as well

[surreal mulch]

it's like the only thing that matters

[frigid wedge]

?

[blazing spear]

it's a pretty name, so use it irl imo

[plush gulch]

just change it

[lean urchin]

too few characteres, system will flag it

[plush gulch]

god ?

[lean urchin]

its a reference to the japanese? guy that only had 2 letters in first name

[plush gulch]

will flag us

[surreal mulch]

yes

[lean urchin]

so he couldnt register on some sites, because its 3 minimum there

[surreal mulch]

I didn't know kanye was japanese

[plush gulch]

my name is so short I can never have a surname

[lean urchin]

Kanye = 5

[plush gulch]

that sucks

[surreal mulch]

it's 2 actually

look it up

[cobalt blade]

3 is long enough tho to not get flagged

[surreal mulch]

anyways this is too offtopic

[plush gulch]

it's fine I have my own off topic to bring up

[surreal mulch]

not how it works

[lean urchin]

i know naca, i was refering to it indirectly. bad joke ill try again with more edgier stuff to spice it up

[plush gulch]

tbh even when I quit I still han g out here

even for off topic

hang out with the boys

when a mod is here you run away

[short prairie]

What do you think about ufo

[surreal mulch]

did you make this yourself

[blazing spear]

i got probed by one

[visual valve]

kitbashed in gimp

[plush gulch]

the important one is what did they thing about us

[cobalt blade]

funny monitor test site

[plush gulch]

and my poe build

did they like

it

[surreal mulch]

wtf is triw

[frigid wedge]

what enchant goes on hail

attack spe

[visual valve]

Name of the Urchin thief, who keeps stealing your stuff, until the moment he gets trapped by a Vaal soul trap and you have to save him. Upon which he decides its safer to join you and help with looting, for a fee.

[plush gulch]

what languague does are you speaking

[cobalt blade]

depends on your goal for the bow? attack based atk speed spark ele damage i think theres the odd build that wants aoe as well

[frigid wedge]

shit roll

literally went up by 3

[blazing spear]

volatile vaal it

[plush gulch]

too smart for me

[short prairie]

[lean urchin]

that is Wilber

[short prairie]

Human experiments

[plush gulch]

you mean tik tok ?

show us our potential as a specie

[blazing spear]

https://tenor.com/view/asgard-hermiod-stargate-atlantis-alien-gif-9394761

[plush gulch]

stargate ❤️

[blazing spear]

the friendly grey aliens were nice to me and taught me to use runes and to be autistic

[short prairie]

What if

[plush gulch]

are you autistic or do you say you are ?

[blazing spear]

diagnosed :3

[short prairie]

Space X and NASA work for the aliens

[plush gulch]

my brother is so im wondering

[lean urchin]

i saw a tiktok, im bipolar, autistic, adhd++

[frigid wedge]

i did

went from 150 to 162

[cobalt blade]

we play path of exile very autism coded game x3

[blazing spear]

the thing is that I actually have autism and adhd

[plush gulch]

it's mandatory to cast buff before the raid donn't you know ??

[blazing spear]

look at my about me

[surreal mulch]

nah

[blazing spear]

I call it an autism game

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[surreal mulch]

there's like a lot of mass appeal especially because it's a free steam game

those are like, inherently flooded by normies

[plush gulch]

who is even normal anymore

😔

[surreal mulch]

me

[lean urchin]

the avg

[blazing spear]

they're filtered out

[plush gulch]

everything is so crazy nowadays

[surreal mulch]

by what

[blazing spear]

only 10% kill kitava

[surreal mulch]

the campaign is easy

[cobalt blade]

how many of those stay for thousands of hours though

[blazing spear]

only 2% get 4 voidstones

[plush gulch]

like WW2

big filter

[limpid prairie]

path of exile is a trial that only leaves the autistics outs

[blazing spear]

i survived

[plush gulch]

im not autistic

[blazing spear]

and met some very wonderful people

[plush gulch]

but i have issue so I won't brag

[surreal mulch]

you can freestyle the shittiest build ever and still kill kitava

[plush gulch]

what helps is infinite tries

[surreal mulch]

by just taking damage nodes

[plush gulch]

which helped me out a lot

[cobalt blade]

if you know what your doing yes

[surreal mulch]

don't even need to cap res

[cobalt blade]

if you dont eeeeeeh

[blazing spear]

including you🫵

[lean urchin]

the normies value their time, so they play the superioir roblox or fortnite (idk)

[cobalt blade]

its shocking how many people dont like read

[cobalt blade]

meow :3

[blazing spear]

i like reading

[plush gulch]

it is because of game devs you know

[blazing spear]

long ass novels

[plush gulch]

make you swim in ocean of useless information

and hide some shiny in there

[blazing spear]

a lot of sci-fi

[blazing spear]

it's fun

[plush gulch]

they teach you to not read because who cares

then it's like wait didn't you read this

[wheat sinew]

it's growing exile

[surreal mulch]

it's all very important information. half the statlines hide like 5 secret keywords

[lean urchin]

i dont even read comics, i just look at the pictures and guess what they say

[cobalt blade]

sameee though havent read a full novel series in a while but been playing random text adventures for fun over the past few years lol

[plush gulch]

you need to play pillar of eternity

[surreal mulch]

the descriptions would have to be 5 times longer to be shorter

[plush gulch]

and it's a great game

[cobalt blade]

its not too hard to filter that useless info but yeah

[blazing spear]

I have read Asimov's foundationverse over 3 days lol

[cobalt blade]

holy

[blazing spear]

from I, Robot to Foundation and Earth

[lean urchin]

foundationverse? MARVEL MULTIVERSE MENTIONED

[blazing spear]

skipping The Stars, Like Dust

[plush gulch]

I prefer to read my chinese book if I want to read

[cobalt blade]

i mean do you not filter out the useless info in those as well :D

[blazing spear]

i do

[plush gulch]

no or only if im tired

[surreal mulch]

I like the end of eternity

[plush gulch]

if not I read everything

[blazing spear]

but I love knowing about telepath robots and psychohistory

[cobalt blade]

holy

[plush gulch]

in books

[blazing spear]

OMG that book was awesome

[plush gulch]

did you read cradle ?

it was cool

I learned english through my books

[blazing spear]

Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut?

[surreal mulch]

not sure I agree with the messaging tho

[blazing spear]

I do

it's basically fuck the order

[plush gulch]

Cradle by Will Wight

[frigid wedge]

WHY

[blazing spear]

:(

broke girl

[frigid wedge]

no no

i need mana AND speed

i guess i coul use es...

[cobalt blade]

would you not craft speed as suffixes and get mana with bristle matron?

[frigid wedge]

i think that was second worst outcome

[cobalt blade]

oh nvm clusters

makes sense then rip

[frigid wedge]

no

[livid quarry]

i got some fossils i could sell

but always at market price

[cobalt blade]

wuts your goal on the cluster

[frigid wedge]

uh

what

why can i fossil the bbd

[lean urchin]

do it pog

[plush gulch]

im a spy playing other game

nobody knows

[stuck phoenix]

Chess

[plush gulch]

how do u know I play chess

😮

but nah

[stuck phoenix]

I'm a psychic

It's not like you told me

[livid quarry]

what game

[plush gulch]

but idk anyone would remember anything I say

[stuck phoenix]

Your tag

[lean urchin]

what are those keybinds? france?

[stuck phoenix]

Your tag is a chess server

Xd

[plush gulch]

last epoch (I just finished tainted grail the fall of avalon and pillar of eternity 2)

[short prairie]

Path of Fishing

PoF

[plush gulch]

it is related to poe

[modest sparrow]

Path of finder

[plush gulch]

because im hanging out with you

[blazing spear]

how do you know I'm donating to wikipedia?

[stuck phoenix]

I don't

Wiki could be any game wiki

[plush gulch]

my second name is wikipedia but I didn't receive it

where the money at

[blazing spear]

it's the actual wikipedia

[trail cobalt]

oh

[stuck phoenix]

Gg

[trail cobalt]

and now im selling it to buy a 3 cuz its just 1 skill point difference

[blazing spear]

wow

[short prairie]

Oh

[blazing spear]

it's like so strong

[cobalt blade]

i mean its worth the cost

[stuck phoenix]

Only if you don't have cheaper upgrades

[plush gulch]

it's not unless your build is pretty much done

[wheat sinew]

gg

[plush gulch]

you can put this money to better use

[cobalt blade]

yuh still worth the cost :p

[plush gulch]

didn't cost anything

he dropped it

🦆

[trail cobalt]

i need a mirror heroic tragedy

[plush gulch]

your name scared me I thought it was a mod

a dangerous mod

[stuck phoenix]

With this logic, every upgrade is worth the cost

[trail cobalt]

well it did cost like 300 div cuz that definitely wasnt the first one

[plush gulch]

not like bido

[cobalt blade]

the budget heroic tragedys

[cobalt blade]

i mean in terms of use for a mirror its one of the better ones

if not the best use for a voices build

[visual valve]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3930885

[plush gulch]

why so many people have picture of cats

[cobalt blade]

like if your armour/aura stacking 1p voices are usually better than mirroring anything

[plush gulch]

evil

[short prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lost-mind-share-this-cat-gif-10624429942940364630

[plush gulch]

if a cat was your size it would be the scariest predator for us

[stuck phoenix]

No

We already have those

They're called tigers

[blazing spear]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-kill-you-ill-fucking-kill-you-gif-10532113743352507704

[stuck phoenix]

And panthers

[cobalt blade]

no cuddle cheetahs

[short prairie]

Eye of the tigerrrrrrrer

[plush gulch]

very far away though

[astral brook]

anyone got a blight guide

[plush gulch]

cats would eat us

[astral brook]

for oils

[short prairie]

And 🐆

Jaguar

[astral brook]

cant find any on yt besides titanic blight wich is impossible

[cobalt blade]

https://youtu.be/W86cTIoMv2U

the best cat

[blazing spear]

https://giphy.com/gifs/anime-nazuna-nanakusa-lMC4rEVuH0IN20fiFo

[short prairie]

Big black c

Hannel

[plush gulch]

didn't watch anime in years

nor movies

[cobalt blade]

just run blight maps

[astral brook]

ye like what scarabs tree those kinda things important yk?

[blazing spear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101879974308352081/1475265295106183259/caption.gif

[cobalt blade]

its a blight map nothing affects them beyond anointing it

[frigid wedge]

real

[cobalt blade]

meowwwww

[surreal mulch]

btw whats the point of having a cwdt purifying flame setup

[plush gulch]

to be purified

[cobalt blade]

consecrated ground

[plush gulch]

if you have evil thought

[surreal mulch]

its only 5% regen

[cobalt blade]

gives curse reduction

[plush gulch]

like wanting to buy a cat

[thick goblet]

conc ground good

[stuck phoenix]

You really asked a question

And

[surreal mulch]

i cant seem to find any consecrated ground modifiers to make it do something good

[stuck phoenix]

5% regen is good

[cobalt blade]

it gives you 50% curse reduction

[stuck phoenix]

Also that

[frigid wedge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ecstasy-happy-kitty-gT93oBucqsHNS

[surreal mulch]

not in this specific situation

[cobalt blade]

that alone makes it worth the 2 link on trauma builds

[surreal mulch]

but why

[plush gulch]

do you have something else to use ?

[frigid wedge]

curse reduction

[cobalt blade]

because curse reductions good??

[plush gulch]

even

[cobalt blade]

makes you get less fucked by vuln

[surreal mulch]

oh i misread that due to order

cool

wouldnt that be a bit inconsistent tho

like youd occasionally oneshot yourself

[cobalt blade]

well no your proccing it before building up trauma stacks and its just for the odd time you get a vuln curse

[plush gulch]

I learrned something instead of worrying to make everything consistent you can add other defensive layer or dmg scaling

and go crazy

[cobalt blade]

like it should be low lvl cwdt so constantly proccing conc ground everywhere

[surreal mulch]

doesnt work in this case

you dont cap pdr you die

[full kraken]

I didnt think about the fact that having double massive shrine boosted to max would also in turn make me fuckin... massive

[plush gulch]

they want 5% regen imo

[cobalt blade]

massive and lesser doesnt stack

[surreal mulch]

they dont

[plush gulch]

what about dot

if you stop attacking

or something

idk

beside that idk

[surreal mulch]

untiring lingers for 10 seconds

[frigid wedge]

i love that there is like 1 build where this is actively detrimental

[surreal mulch]

thats like an eternity

[plush gulch]

if you are like not curse immune I die and I don't care about regen I have no idea why they care about it

[frigid wedge]

ye but he has double effect

[plush gulch]

maybe ignite ? maybe they want some hit

to proj

proc

[cobalt blade]

"double massive shrine boosted to max"

[frigid wedge]

from blunder and gull

[cobalt blade]

aka the double massive was him reading it at lesser and regular

[frigid wedge]

[cobalt blade]

but its just regular applying

:p

[frigid wedge]

i guess

[full kraken]

I didnt know they dont stack

[surreal mulch]

just the right height

[frigid wedge]

i find enjoyable to know that basically only vaal earthquake loses dps with a massive shrine

[full kraken]

for giving her headpats yes indeed

[surreal mulch]

huck cosplay

[dark kite]

welp, ive mitigated some of the worber's fragility by investing a few points into improving my leech and swapping my watcher's for es recovery rate and zealotry leech

recovery was definitely a pain point

[full kraken]

precise technique can lose its bonus too, you learn that one often in twink builds during acts XD

[cobalt blade]

Oh ye i kept meaning to try worb with accel belt

maybe ill do that in standard at some point

[dark kite]

im considering swapping from reso/impen screams to mageblood though

just for better speed and resists

[tidal geode]

Can anyone recommend me some fun farming strat? Ive been pretty bored lately, maybe its time to quit

[surreal mulch]

tbh links here are surprisingly valuable i think ill just wear rational doctrine for now

[astral brook]

yeah no i cant set up a blight farm

[wheat sinew]

👀 +

[frigid wedge]

accel impen go!

[wheat sinew]

mmmmm

[cobalt blade]

if you have some generic cast speed fbowb prob not too bad

for reso impen

[dark kite]

i dont have the mirrors for that lmao

[frigid wedge]

that map isnt great

[astral brook]

they use golden oils prismatic etc wich is crazy expensive

[wheat sinew]

omgggg

[astral brook]

im doing blight for prismatic anyways wich is 14d atm

[cobalt blade]

holy playstation economy

[frigid wedge]

ps economy moment

[astral brook]

because no farmers

tainted 11d was 20d last week

[frigid wedge]

just run ravaged tbh if theres any availability

[cobalt blade]

i wonder how good blight ravaged is there since presumably it just kills peoples consoles so noone wants to run it

[astral brook]

its possible

[cobalt blade]

actually how awful is upgrading towers on console ui

[wheat sinew]

okay but like please gib me the juice

[astral brook]

but worse than full juice breach

[frigid wedge]

probably easier than pc

[astral brook]

its horrendous

[surreal mulch]

double mageblood log in

[astral brook]

no

[cobalt blade]

shouldnt be they have to navigate between multiple

we can flick our mouses and do 3 towers fast

[frigid wedge]

half the reason i hate controller is the lack of dynamic cursor movement

[cobalt blade]

time for the quadruple mageblood

[astral brook]

on tree i just take blight / pack size those kinda things?

[frigid wedge]

u gotta awkwardly thumb ur touchpad

actually

[grizzled lily]

its just that easy

[wheat sinew]

:( they got the convert all items to influences sad days

[frigid wedge]

does that work

[astral brook]

i actually prefer controller but maybe im just used after 11 years

[cobalt blade]

honestly if they let us use mouse for stash/anything easier to do with a mouse in maps i would consider using it for like RF builds

[surreal mulch]

actually funnily enough witchbane might be better than doctrine

[cobalt blade]

but anything else fuck that

[surreal mulch]

in this specific case

[frigid wedge]

it kinda just never settled with me, i prefer trackpads

[frigid wedge]

yk the big button top middle of ur controller

[astral brook]

d pad

[frigid wedge]

no

[astral brook]

ps button? tf

[cobalt blade]

that's on ps4 controllers eri

idk if ps5 ones have it

[astral brook]

i have both infront of me

[cobalt blade]

but like that top bit on a ps4 controller

[astral brook]

yes. thats the d pad sir

[cobalt blade]

some gmaes use it for a pseudo mouse

[astral brook]

touchpad whatever

[cobalt blade]

no

dpad is left side

[astral brook]

i call it a d pad lol

[frigid wedge]

that's

[cobalt blade]

(ive also used it to play osu once would not recommend)

[frigid wedge]

not what a d pad is tho

[astral brook]

left is just arrows for me

[cobalt blade]

ye those arrows are called the d or directional pad

[astral brook]

ehhh who cares same thing

[surreal mulch]

why did they remove the button letting you go from mine straight to hideout

[frigid wedge]

does game let you use the touch pad like a pc mouse

[cobalt blade]

they didnt

[surreal mulch]

where is it

[frigid wedge]

for tower placement

[cobalt blade]

you just cant use it if you have an active delve instance

lol

[surreal mulch]

breh

[limpid prairie]

can someone carry me santctum ascendency btw? i might be dealing 66% less dmg than planned

[frigid wedge]

i love eating a 200g pack of Garibaldi's in 10 minutes

[short prairie]

im 5 unique away from quitting the league

[frigid wedge]

u should v vaal every unique u have and check ur progress

[mental nymph]

undersold but who cares,pocket money

[short prairie]

SUS

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cou-u-repet-tat-cat-staring-cat-what-what-cat-gif-15888427591844445690

[grizzled lily]

wtf inflation

[limpid prairie]

inflation is sign that the league is actually dying
be ready to ssf

[grizzled lily]

lucky annul for all res

[surreal mulch]

its not ssf because async

[grizzled lily]

and life is gone

[cobalt blade]

why not suff to pre beast

[grizzled lily]

essences so cheap

might aswell just yolo it

[frigid wedge]

there has been increasing inflation in the economy due to the constant number of fubgooners still playing the game
this is one of the fundamental rules of path of exile
to find out more, google gooner inflation rule 34

[limpid prairie]

item market wont dry yah
but currency market will slowly dissapear coudnt get fossils last day for crafting my dagger

[frigid wedge]

naca i swear u pog everything remotely horny

what if i just say like

titties

[cobalt blade]

:3

[livid quarry]

im too lazy to sell fossils

[grizzled lily]

https://pobb.in/KImGxbEQaPQ0

[frigid wedge]

good girl

[grizzled lily]

build coming in

[frigid wedge]

:3

[limpid prairie]

thats ok
i bought some cheap ones and rerolled them

[cobalt blade]

thaaats u

[limpid prairie]

even got some split fossils

[cobalt blade]

also i pogged the inflation thing since those memes are funny lol wasnt actually considering the horny

[livid quarry]

u can use spectres they rarely die

[surreal mulch]

damn my map tab is almost full

[frigid wedge]

yeah, im holding a standing mirror, ur lookin at urself

[cobalt blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1248486718265360405.gif?size=80&quality=lossless

[grizzled lily]

LIE

https://pobb.in/qA06gYfDIlzJ

no need for invert the rules heh

[limpid prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfz0k9CrNbQ

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-strokes-the-cat-strokes-tiny-cat-gif-16159021771216344031

[cobalt blade]

consider ele res on maps and altars

[cobalt blade]

meow :3

[livid quarry]

u need to light ur enemies on fire before immolate works

dunno where ur intial source of fire dmg is

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-petting-cat-gif-23818443

[cobalt blade]

oh also as a secondary thing if your tincture isnt active inverts also better

[frigid wedge]

that support upsets me

[cobalt blade]

kbity

[plush gulch]

that's it I sent my msg in last epoch discord to ask advice about my build I can wait a week now

people respond

😔

[frigid wedge]

just like you!

[cobalt blade]

im hoping it or unholy trinity live the patch notes since they are both so good lmfao

[cobalt blade]

real

[frigid wedge]

unholy tri is significantly better but also so niche that it's hard to justify nerfing

[full kraken]

I donteven have accel shrine belt and Im already pretty dang fast

I am excited for how much faster Im gonna become once I have it lol

[dry snow]

hmm

[cobalt blade]

i feel like its gonna get hit because of spark/armour stacker showcasing how good it can be personally

[dry snow]

when did we start leeg? feels like almost 3 month?

[dark kite]

early march, i think?

[cobalt blade]

march 6

[dark kite]

so it's been just over 2 months

9 weeks

[grizzled lily]

wait yea fuck how do i even do that

change of plans

[cobalt blade]

swap the lightning on your wep to fire

[grizzled lily]

NOOO

hits cant be evaded

[cobalt blade]

and run a regular smite somewhere for flat lightning

if you can make the accuracy work ye thats prob the better replacement lol

[grizzled lily]

thats painge

i mean i could fit in a arrogance precision

idk havent figured out this yet

[cobalt blade]

can also craft flat fire on gloves or shield no?

i think veiled flat was craftable on shield

[grizzled lily]

change of plans i swap immolate for ice bite

but then

ugh

is dmg while leeching even that potent

[cobalt blade]

thats enough to ignite if you craft the shield until you get natural attack speed

bristle matron slam for life craft that

[grizzled lily]

thats true

wait why not

just

[stuck phoenix]

If you crit or otherwise have chance to ignite you just need a few added fire anywhere. I think even an abyssal jewel mod is enough

[grizzled lily]

can have up to 3

[cobalt blade]

oh ye you have an empty suffix

[grizzled lily]

1 pref 1 suf

yea

[cobalt blade]

but idk could always go for that anyway

[dry snow]

guess i still have time to play a bit more

feeling like playing forbidden rite

[grizzled lily]

yea but that t1 life is so fake

never hitting it

nice minroll

[cobalt blade]

not thaaaat bad to hit with bristle matron slams

[full kraken]

literally a single blueprint, ez game

[cobalt blade]

(random suffix to be sure the open pre only part wasnt being broken)

1/3rd? of a div per try

excluding specifically buying 20~% chances not to consume and those rolling somewhat often

[grizzled lily]

im settling

[cobalt blade]

understandable

[grizzled lily]

id rather be okay with this and actually change the build rather than

[short prairie]

whos this

[lean urchin]

beyond boss?

[short prairie]

[lean urchin]

angel of death or something

[short prairie]

ktash?

[lean urchin]

i could be wrong

[short prairie]

whats she doing in the zealot valut

[lean urchin]

getting studied it looks like

[cobalt blade]

idt its a boss specifically just a beyond demon?

[lean urchin]

i think youre right, i googled beidat, its not him

[mint radish]

do map modifiers affect strong boxes?
someone is telling me they're using a quant chisel ontheir maps for their strongbox farm

[full kraken]

pretty good for 7 bps methinks

[cobalt blade]

kind of

theres monster loot and flat/loot tile loot from boxes

it applies to the monster loot side not flat loot

[modest sparrow]

Can't you stack the tempering/tailoring

[cobalt blade]

so like operative boxes basically all the loot is flat so map quant does nothing

[full kraken]

yeah but they start out unstacked when you first pickup cuz they are contraband

[modest sparrow]

Yeah I know, but this is after 7 bps so stack em smh

[stuck phoenix]

What

[full kraken]

theyll stack when I dump em into my stash

[stuck phoenix]

Map quant most definitely applies to strongboxes

[hard cliff]

Damn

[cobalt blade]

again only the non flat loot portion bido

[hard cliff]

let's get a hard league reset for the last month

call it mirage mirage league

[stuck phoenix]

Source?

[cobalt blade]

literally running boxes

[hard cliff]

Every area is a mirage

If you enter a mirage in a mirage your server cluster crashes

who will survive

[stuck phoenix]

You're running normal maps?

[cobalt blade]

no but ive tested it out of curiosity

im sure i can find fubgun mentioning it too if you really want lol

[stuck phoenix]

I don't believe you tested well enough then

You sure you're not talking about player iir and player iiq?

And it's silly to call it flat loot

Because it's very much not

Flat loot to me would be for example essences from an essence monster

Not randomly generated loot that literally scales with modifiers

Also, go run a cursed map with a forced strongbox. Tell me how flat your loot is.

[mint radish]

I am trying to understand what does and doesn't affect the strongboxes in order to consult someone in a help channel right now. I recall hearing that strong boxes were their own thing

[stuck phoenix]

I will also point out that cartographer's chisels were removed

As far as I'm aware, strongboxes work as the wiki describes them

[stuck phoenix]

Also, my source is reading wiki + literally running boxes

I dare you to run 10 maps with 0 iiq and compare just the box loot with just the box loot from 10 maps with good iiq

[cobalt blade]

its obviously going ot be worse but if you do it with again operative boxes its not going to be that much worse

i would do it but im too lazy to login and respec an atlas

[stuck phoenix]

Smh

I believe you probably do have an atlas that isn't strongboxes that you could use for the test

[cobalt blade]

but these things that say contains x additional items and forced loot from boxes like again operatives is "flat" loot

[stuck phoenix]

Eh

[cobalt blade]

and is not scaled by quant and its the loot you get from operatives this league

[stuck phoenix]

Sure on the modifiers that grant x items specifically

But not types of strongboxes like operative's

[full kraken]

you know I think its interesting how massive shrine and instant life flask interact

[cosmic eagle]

suffering from success

[full kraken]

it indicates either
A: the game never counts an instant life flask as you being under the effect of a flask
or
B: the order of calculations works out nicely

[stuck phoenix]

Instant is not over time

[full kraken]

because if you pop an instant life flask while using massive shrine belt, it does work and heal you (it doesnt drop your max hp as it applies)

[stuck phoenix]

Instant has no duration

[full kraken]

its still a flask's "effect"

[cobalt blade]

no duration of flask = your never "during" the flasks effect

[karmic gust]

but you are never under te effect

[stuck phoenix]

Not being affected

[karmic gust]

the effect just happens

[cobalt blade]

it just gave you health

[stuck phoenix]

It's like leech

If you have 100% instant leech you're never leeching

[full kraken]

the specific wording on the belt though:

[stuck phoenix]

We know

We all know

[full kraken]

right Im not saying it doesnt make sense I just think its interesting and nice

[stuck phoenix]

Ok

[karmic gust]

i thought it contained link to candy crush download, til

[full kraken]

they absolutely could have made it apply and we'd have accepted it as making sense that way too

[stuck phoenix]

You made it sound like a question

[stuck phoenix]

What

[full fossil]

can someone explain how the charlatan's weapon swap for the support bow works asking as frankly i dont understand the weapon swap spectre shit since you have to re-get your spectre every map no?

[full kraken]

huh

[cobalt blade]

i wouldnt have lmfao

[cobalt blade]

bow has higher gem levels

[stuck phoenix]

You said a or b is the case

It's an implied question of is it a or is it b

[cobalt blade]

and you dont need to reget your spectre you just put a raise spectre in the first weapon slot on your main hand

which matches with the first weapon slot on bow

[full kraken]

we will never know if its A or B unless ggg ever confirms explicitly how the actual code works, from our end the two are identical in outcomes

[stuck phoenix]

It's A

[full kraken]

has GGG confirmed on their end its A

thats a domain layer code thing, we dont know the nuance of how it actually works on their end

[stuck phoenix]

Don't remember, probably

[full fossil]

so is that why hes got lvl1 raise spectre here?

[full kraken]

for all we know its some insane spaghetti code and neither A or B but something else

[cobalt blade]

yep

you have to make sure its the exact same slot btw

so if its 4th gem socket on bow 4th on weapon

[karmic gust]

are you rly reactivating all those auras on map start

[cobalt blade]

that would suck ass to do tbh

[karmic gust]

surely you can moev stuff around and put like cwdt or something to wep instead because thats kinda ew

[full kraken]

actually its more liekly to be B to be honest, its incredibly likely GGG uses some form of highly performant ECS thing in which case its indeed a principle of order of operations (it cant be anything else when you get into hyper optimized ECS)

[cobalt blade]

fbowb in weapon maybe

[full fossil]

not my pob looking at someone elses

[full kraken]

if you put the exact same aura in the exact same slot in both weapons, it will persist across weapon swap

[cobalt blade]

you cant do that with spectre links

[full kraken]

are they doing that by chance?

[full fossil]

good to know.

[cobalt blade]

you need your empower minion life companion ship etc

[full kraken]

spectres auto resummon when you leave and re-enter the map

[stuck phoenix]

@full kraken no

[cobalt blade]

yes and you need to match spectre to your golden charlathan

[stuck phoenix]

They already sent the weapon swap

[cobalt blade]

to weapon swap for bow gem levels

[full kraken]

is this... a pob warrior build perhaps you are copying from

[cobalt blade]

its not pob warrior

minion pact isnt calculated by ninja

[full fossil]

im not copying it. im just looking at charlatan builds

[stuck phoenix]

I mean pressing like 4 extra buttons per map isn't that bad

[karmic gust]

you dont need to process this in same system if its ecs, it wouldnt even make sense to, and it also doesnt rly make sense to use pure ecs

[cobalt blade]

its literally just weapon swap for gem levels on spectre you need to keep spectre in charlie so you dont constantly lose it and have to goto acts to get it every map

[stuck phoenix]

It's not at all likely that it's B

[karmic gust]

im doing some stuff with ecs atm and i treat duration effects and instant effects very differently for example

[full kraken]

yeah it would be a different system

but systems have an order of precedence, thats... basically mandatory, you cannot parallelize ECS, and you in fact dont parallelize ECS intentionally as ECS's entire point is its a hyper performant way to handle stuff on a single thread

[cobalt blade]

therefore in the exact way its setup you need to recast auras every weapon swap

lol

and theres no way around it

[karmic gust]

you can parallelize ecs

you just have sync points after

but thats just syncing the state

[full kraken]

you dont though, you typically SIMD it which isnt actually parallelizing it

[full fossil]

btw whats the like "best" charlatan build atm? in terms of clear, is it still herald stack

[stuck phoenix]

@full kraken also fyi, for for example the condition of being on full life, you are treated as being on full life for the entire tick if you reach it during the tick at any point even if you leave the tick not at full life

[karmic gust]

no you can actually paralellize it

[cobalt blade]

def herald stack

[karmic gust]

look at flecs

[stuck phoenix]

So it's not at all likely to be order of operations

[full fossil]

only version of charlatan ive done is osin so unsure what the difference between non osin is

[stuck phoenix]

Because this kind of condition could very well be the same

[cobalt blade]

your playing a phys skill anyway for greater shrine stuff and herald buff effect scales the shit outta your initial damage to get said shrine buffs

(also ofc makes gloom rly strong from all non chas as extra)

[full kraken]

Id have to look into it, but its typically one of those things where parallelizing it usualy harms performance, you rarely gain much from trying to parellize it

[karmic gust]

you can use simd for iterating tables but thats in same system

but you can have systems running in different threads and then have sync points

[full kraken]

parallelization usually has so much overhead compared to zero alloc single threading that you need an incredibly immense amount of parallelizable workload to make it make sense

[karmic gust]

it harms performance if you do it yourself because its very hard to do properly

(and i tried and i gave up)

[full kraken]

no the very simple fact that parallelizing it has a bunch of overhead inherently means huge upfront cost

[karmic gust]

but in flecs the implementation is rly good

[full kraken]

like maybe if you have millions and millions of things it starts becoming worth it to batch it out to threads

[karmic gust]

you dont spin up new thread every time

obviously, yu just have thread pool

[full kraken]

a game like factorio for example prolly can do it

[full kraken]

its not spinning it up, its the delegation process

the act of like, delegating work around across threads instead of just brute force CPU goes BRRRRR adds a buncha overhead

it can be worth it but you need specifically the type of game where its both:

1. I have a morbillion of these things constantly
2. their order of operations doesnt matter, I dont care what order they calc in

which exists but... its pretty rare

[karmic gust]

the delegation is a lot faster than some very expensive stuff like physics or pathfinding

[full kraken]

physics can just typically be outright SIMD'd on the GPU usually, the GPU can do a loooooot of physics very very fast single threaded

and usually physics cares about order of operations if you dont wanna end up with bethesda physics

[stuck phoenix]

Well, this game doesn't have physics

[full kraken]

I mean, it does lol

[stuck phoenix]

Like what

[karmic gust]

it would still be faster on separate thread

[livid quarry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1t8e6gm/unethical_awakeners/ @short prairie

[karmic gust]

also you just do simulation on separate thread and then correction after, its not that complicated

its how most games work

[full kraken]

shattered enemies and stuff like that

[stuck phoenix]

Enemy disappears

Not sure how that's physics

[karmic gust]

or at least most engines these days

[whole bluff]

wouldnt physics imply it actually calcs anything about what to render

[full kraken]

all the chunks and ragdoll stuff is still physics, theres not much but its there

[stuck phoenix]

Is it even

[full kraken]

physics in game engines usually refers to netwonian physics

[full kraken]

it collides with the ground and stuff, it appears so

[cobalt blade]

rip not crit support

[stuck phoenix]

Are you sure it's not fixed then

[cobalt blade]

still recomb useable if you cannot roll attack annul though

[stuck phoenix]

Because corpses very much don't collide with corpses

[short prairie]

that's a 4 mod recomb feeder

[full kraken]

I havent zoomed in to look close tbh

[whole bluff]

I got the impression maybe poe2 has physics lul

[stuck phoenix]

Like I genuinely don't believe you

[full kraken]

its possible its a bunch of prebaked animations

[karmic gust]

never paid attention to it in poe ngl, wouldnt be surprised if there arent any physics

and its just nice anims

[full kraken]

yeah it could be tbh

[stuck phoenix]

I'm convinced it's just animations

[whole bluff]

my guess would be poe1 got created and ran for a long time without any physics, and if there are any now theyre backported from poe2

[full kraken]

easiest way to see is just like, shatter or blow up an enemy near a cliff, see if it rolls off the cliff

or does it float in the air

also does it phase through the wall or bounce off the wall

[cobalt blade]

p sure the game has no ragdoll physics

[karmic gust]

desecrate corpses just float for sure

[cobalt blade]

would be bad for desync and DD

[full kraken]

yeah they dont have any ragdoll'ing

[whole bluff]

I guess corpses do usually land on ground? but like poe1s altitude coding is a joke

[surreal mulch]

the game has physics when brutus breaks a wall

[whole bluff]

maybe they improved it? but spark locked on ground cant climb stairs, fireball shot up stair hits camera

idr

[surreal mulch]

finally we get to fight the ultimate enemy

[whole bluff]

I remember speaking to a techie like 10 years ago who said poe1 wasnt 3d

[cobalt blade]

this is intentional btw

[stuck phoenix]

Poe1 is a 2d game

[whole bluff]

I mean, it's a mess

[stuck phoenix]

Projectiles do pretend to be 3d

[cobalt blade]

spark explicitly moves along the ground instead of flying

[stuck phoenix]

They have a visual altitude

And they can collide with floor slopes

[surreal mulch]

poe runs doom