1┃general

[cosmic eagle]

i cringed so hard when that shit popped out on the live reveal stream, like what? uhhh what's the point exactly?

basically activating all strats in your map what a vision

[split palm]

eh, it seems to be full pathing nodes with 1-4 selectable notables

[full kraken]

I wanna push way higher in difficulty on enemies

everything is way way too squishy atm

I guess we have delirium tho

[ebon hatch]

^

[full kraken]

which sorta (?) acts as boosting the area level artificially

[ebon hatch]

i want to juice maps even more

[cosmic eagle]

yeah the i84 clusters needs to be looked at next league, i dont want to farm simu fuck that snoozefest content

[ebon hatch]

everything is way too easy atm

[full kraken]

Id like to just have maps baseline go up higher though for monster level

like the problem with juicing is the fact that its a buncha work

[split palm]

you do not want the new deli

[full kraken]

I hate the whole "hold on lemme get my 5 stacks of scarabs and 5 delirium orbs on my 16.5 map that I also 8 mod corrupt and chisel and then put my astrolabe on the map" fuck off lol

I just want baseline T24 maps or some shit

[ebon hatch]

same tbh

[full kraken]

raise the floor of the maps up higher

[split maple]

this + loss of farmable harvests beasts are the two worst offenders to me this league

[ebon hatch]

make deli great again

[split maple]

einhar astrolabe of harvest beasts prayge

[full kraken]

I hate astrolabes

[split palm]

granted, it's in poo2 now

[full kraken]

more busywork

[ebon hatch]

make delirium mobs have a expedition modifiers

[cosmic eagle]

or just boost all beasts rate or maybe add beast astrolabe

hell yeah brother

[full kraken]

or what if they deleted astrolabes and just buffed the atlas tree instead

[cosmic eagle]

astrolabe is the best thing in this patch

so no

[mental nymph]

You're gonna make bestiary broken

[split palm]

given they literally just threw delve and expedition together in one into poo2 basically

[ebon hatch]

new atlas keystone - your maps are level 86

[full kraken]

why the hell do people like busywork, less time farming, more time fiddling with shit

[cosmic eagle]

expedition x endless delve is a new take, jonathan is cooking

[full kraken]

I like the idea of sockets in the atlas tree that further boost map level

8 voidstones instead of 4

[mental nymph]

I do see harvest bosses being new beasts added to bestiary as a neat concept

[full kraken]

theyd have to sell for several divines to be worth the effort

[ebon hatch]

while bugging and not phasing for 2 minutes? no thanks

[cosmic eagle]

beast rework hopefully

[split maple]

man that was already a thing

first as memory

then as kirac mission

[full kraken]

they need to just delete like half the beast recipes and make new ones that actually function

they had several really cool beast recipes too they got rid of

[split maple]

like this league it feels like they decided ssf isnt going to synth craft

[full kraken]

Mirror a Map was by far the coolest beast recipe we used to have

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i guess that's the true way, just delete half of the useless beasts in this game

[frigid wedge]

ouch

[full kraken]

can you imagine if we still could mirror maps with bestiary

that was such a neat recipe

[mental nymph]

Yea the phase thing is slightly inconvenient,but I don't mind it

[cosmic eagle]

i hate how it's still tedious to delete useless beasts in your menagerie

[full kraken]

you had an entire economy of people crafting maps for mirror service'ing them

[full kraken]

it takes like 10 seconds

[split maple]

how tf do you delete 1k beasts in 10sec

like ctrl-clicking takes time

[cosmic eagle]

what? 10 secs? stop capping mate

[full kraken]

how on earth do you have 1k red beasts

[frigid wedge]

that was when juicing a map could actually consistently make u that mirror beast in value back

[split maple]

some folks have clear

sorry bout that

[full kraken]

no it was a beast recipe

[frigid wedge]

i corrected the message

[cosmic eagle]

ah yes you are in sc, that's why you think deleting all beast takes 10 secs

[full kraken]

the beast's price inherently would reflect this

like whatever the ROE is for the best map you can mirror is gonna roughly be what the beast is worth a bit less than

[frigid wedge]

ig so

[full kraken]

what does this even mean lol

do people in hc not have a ctrl button on their keyboard

[frigid wedge]

esm what do you think of my meme hsot

https://pobb.in/ucqdf_XjBdWC

its like half a pob

[split maple]

going for perma vaal disc?

[frigid wedge]

nah its just lavis

i got bored about about an hour and stopped pobbing

theres like 6 empty jewel sockets

not gonna play it anyway

[split maple]

why the soul flask then

[frigid wedge]

hence i made a pob

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/kaHmR2z.png

why arent they selling 💢

[frigid wedge]

doesn't even have added strikes

[frigid wedge]

bc theres a whole 10 movement speed

or is that an alva res

[cold sable]

base item is worth that amount

mine is cheapest on market

[cosmic eagle]

if you recomb 30 qual, does it remain on either base or what

[cold sable]

i have 3 of them :c

[frigid wedge]

ig but ppl are leaving to go play poo2

[cold sable]

gg

[frigid wedge]

also what ilvl is that

[cold sable]

85

[full kraken]

if anyone sees any other options for more efficient ways to boost my movespeed on this btw, lemme know
https://pobb.in/kIunlpCqzeEi

[frigid wedge]

u sure?

[cold sable]

yes

[frigid wedge]

banners

[split maple]

hmm i kinda want to swap lom -> unnatural, unnatural -> healthy mind and get %es somewhere else

[full kraken]

I feel like if I try I can hit 1400% movespeed

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/knK9S7n.png

[frigid wedge]

v vaal body and helm

fasting clusters

[full kraken]

FF/FF Worthy Causes?

[frigid wedge]

sure

also is haste sublime not better than grace watchers

[full kraken]

Id lose all my other auras so yes

including the very important temp chains aura

[frigid wedge]

why is that one important

[full kraken]

slowing down enemies make them no longer interrupt rogues

they have to first run up to the rogue, temp chains aura slows em down enough they usually dont even make it

so rogues basically never get interrupted anymore

[frigid wedge]

also does viper even need to be 6L instead of running eclipse and empower on ur automation link, or cooldown recovery support for uptime

[full kraken]

yeah the uptime helps a tonne

[frigid wedge]

ur investing a lot into slows but iirc u can kinda just... put in void sphere and frost wall

[split palm]

I am backpedaling on not taking aspirin today >.<

[full kraken]

we aint got time for that lol

rogues should be opening the door in under 1s

without temp chains though they'll sometimes still get interrupted by the guards standing right beside the door

with temp chains it buys them the extra sliver of time they can reliably get it done

[frigid wedge]

so does decoy totem, void sphere and ice wall

[full kraken]

sorta but you have to... click those first

[frigid wedge]

why specifically viper strike anyway

[full kraken]

skill effect duration applies to viper strikes poison duration

[frigid wedge]

and u have room to fit bound by destiny for 15% ms btw

with 4 hunter

if u chance ur rings helm and body

[full kraken]

oh thats a good point

[frigid wedge]

and get hunter shaper for a cdrr shaper movement speed hunter

[full kraken]

Id prolly take 15% life for elder x2

[frigid wedge]

whats on ur hubris?

[cosmic eagle]

this is a decent lords no?

[full kraken]

its just for supreme ostentation

[split palm]

what colours?

[frigid wedge]

could grab aura effect for haste/banners

ok i gtg now tho

[split palm]

it always depends on colours and enchant

[split palm]

cya

[cosmic eagle]

[split palm]

no idea what 2-2-2 wants

[full kraken]

the ideal is 30% chill effect so I can then use a volatile'd gull

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i guess its shit, +2 level of gems

[raven anchor]

Anyone got SSF tips for crafting minion rings?

[cosmic eagle]

genesis tree helps

[split palm]

probably tree

lock pref/suff

reforge minion?

[cosmic eagle]

most of my fractured bone rings came from tree

[split palm]

on a decent base, obv.

true

frac

[cosmic eagle]

you gotta take advantage of genesis tree in ssf

pog

[raven anchor]

Wasn’t sure if the genesis tree would be good since you can’t target bone rings

[cosmic eagle]

it does drop bone rings

make sure your filter shows bone rings

[split palm]

best thing would be probably either frac inc minion dmg

means you can practically force all 3 suffixes to be minion

[raven anchor]

I’ve used it for pretty much everything else. I know it can drop them just you can’t increase the odds for bone rings in particular or any of the minion mods to be on the item really

[split palm]

and reforge minion always forces those 4

[cosmic eagle]

less str,dex and int

more rings

[split palm]

and 1 in 4/5 to get t1 always

[cedar yarrow]

Any flicker guru know if skitterbots is worth it?

[full fossil]

is this the beta craft of exile?

[split palm]

yes

[full fossil]

looks clean ngl

[cosmic eagle]

@short prairie

[cedar yarrow]

Oh he the same build as me too

[cosmic eagle]

damn what a double drop if i am in sc

[split palm]

good odds tbh

[full fossil]

why did i think that was a Chinese cat

[split palm]

after that, annul, suffix lock again

[cosmic eagle]

[full fossil]

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/uhEeGyqS6NEf

slayer looks way better than reliquarian

[cedar yarrow]

Hooman

I need tech support

[short prairie]

yes if you dont have lightning damage early, or you are going secrets of suffering sapping brittle instead of chill freeze and shock

[cedar yarrow]

This is a late game build

The other option is arctic armor

Im using em with bonechill and unbound ailments

[short prairie]

this is prob a late game build

[cedar yarrow]

Yes

[short prairie]

there are late late late late late late game builds

but i cant do it in ssf

[cedar yarrow]

Well im out of people on poe ninja to look at so

Im asking around

And im gonna kill myself before going armor stacker flicker strike like that one guy

[short prairie]

send your pob link

why are you playing in standard

you need to come to mirage challenge league

[cedar yarrow]

Cant a man have a pet project?

I played mirage

There is nothin left to do

[short prairie]

make a flicker there, it's you new project

[cedar yarrow]

Tf do you think i play in mirage?

[short prairie]

idk

[cedar yarrow]

I made a flicker

And an aurabot

[short prairie]

well your name says "standard" flicker user

[cedar yarrow]

Ye

Cus its what i play mostly now

[short prairie]

and theres a standard league..

anyways send your pob

[cedar yarrow]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/standard/character/Void-7035/Void_Fractal?i=13&search=skills%3DFlicker%2BStrike%26sort%3Ddps

its on the helmet btw

[short prairie]

that's you?

[cedar yarrow]

thats me

the name is the same and everything

[short prairie]

why are you asking me

when you alr have everything

[cedar yarrow]

someone reffered me to you

[short prairie]

[cedar yarrow]

idk man ask them

i just need opinion on skitterbots or arctic armor

cus idk how the supports work with both

[split maple]

what do you even get from skittles there

[cedar yarrow]

they do shock and chill but with increased effect and they work with the supports

bonechill and unbound ailments

basically dps go up

i think so anyway

maybe im wrong

[livid quarry]

dont think skitterbots worth

[split maple]

dont you have enough cold dmg to cap chill

shock yea i think skitters do more than you

but i would rather try to fix that differently

[livid quarry]

its like 35% reservation for 10% more dmg

[split maple]

idk how tho, just taking skittles just for shock feels idk to me

[cedar yarrow]

not 10%

with all the supports its like 40%

thats what pob says anyway

[split maple]

not rly

[livid quarry]

does it reserve all ur mp?

[raven anchor]

With supports it reserves more mana

[livid quarry]

thats crazy

[cedar yarrow]

no

[split maple]

if you remove skittles you need to config shock and chill value

[cedar yarrow]

i got like 108 left

[split maple]

then its still more with skittles, but close enough it feels like not worth

[cedar yarrow]

no when i add skitters i dont even enable shock

its just with chill

[split maple]

especially coz if you can grab somewhere some more shock...

[split maple]

skitterbots enable both in pob no matter the checkbox

[short prairie]

skitter gives 22% mroe with your current setup

[split maple]

coz its guaranteed source

[cedar yarrow]

i see

shock is from lightning right?

i do lightning dmg

not a lot

but some

lol

[short prairie]

you do so little lightning damage, it's negligible

you dont hit the 50% shock cap

[cedar yarrow]

i see

[split maple]

yea, lightning crits do shock. rn your expected shock is 19%

if you can get it to 30%, droping skitters is more dmg than having them

[short prairie]

skitterbot is basically just giving you shock to 50% at this point

you are hitting max chill

[cedar yarrow]

how would i get more shock tho

[split maple]

relevant calcs page

[short prairie]

vaal smite

[split maple]

ailment effect or more lightning dmg

[cedar yarrow]

more lightning dmg is not a real option

ailment is a maybe

smite is an aura right?

or do i gotta cast it

i see i gotta cast it it seems

[split maple]

vaal smite + woke empower

gets you to 41% shock

or 630mil dps

droping skitters gets you 4 sock, so still 2 sock leftover then

[cedar yarrow]

i would have to manually cast smite right?

[split maple]

well not cast but yea

it aint speel 😛

[cedar yarrow]

yeah then im probs not gonna do that cus flicker with more than 1 button aint flicker

lol

[cosmic eagle]

coc smite

[split maple]

https://pobb.in/FQUt6TIn-E-m

its a click per 12sec

which you anyways aint gonna press coz you have enough dmg

but it looks nice in pob

[cedar yarrow]

well i care about real world performance if i wanted pob numbers id just shove in ambush and berserk and have a billion dps

lol

btw does poe ninja just never say the enemy is frozen?

cus i have 99% freeze chance

[split maple]

poe ninja has fun default config

[cedar yarrow]

yeah ive noticed

cus with freeze i deal like 750 mil

[split maple]

see https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pob-rules

[cedar yarrow]

i looked at that ye

[split maple]

heh slaping bonechill to vaal smite inflates pob to 700mil

but thats pure pob padding

[cedar yarrow]

yeah does that even do anything?

[cosmic eagle]

any blight enjoyers? how rare is the stampede?

[split maple]

practically nada

in pob a lot

[cedar yarrow]

i see

[split maple]

then ticking freeze gets you to pleasant 1.1bil tho

funny numbers

[cedar yarrow]

the freeze dps is accurate tho

cus my helmet

[split maple]

you can get plenty of 20% more imbues once league merges

fun hobby project

[cedar yarrow]

ive got those prepped in league

also clusters with new fog

and a chest plate etc

[livid quarry]

can u freeze ubers

[cedar yarrow]

yeah

[split maple]

yea but they will still move

[spice pecan]

they can count as frozen

[livid quarry]

nice

[short prairie]

where's frozen

wdf discrimination

[split maple]

no one gets frozen on ninja senses :&

[cedar yarrow]

shhhh dw about it

ninja doesnt know what frozen is

[short prairie]

heatshiver gets discriminated against

[cedar yarrow]

lol

[spice pecan]

poeninja seems to think i'm missing 25% of my cold res despite not running any auras or anything for it either

it has some odd rules

[cedar yarrow]

and thats why top dps is always shitty shako builds

[short prairie]

or gull

[split maple]

clusters?

[cedar yarrow]

now gull but those play nice

unlike shako builds

[split maple]

like ik its supposed to be fixed

but this league ninja didnt see my suppress cluster

[cedar yarrow]

oh i forgot i need another cluster in league

now where the hell do i get 30d

[spice pecan]

so the weird thing about clusters is that it calcs my chaos res properly even tho i have chaos res on a cluster

[split maple]

link your ninja

[spice pecan]

but I have 25% total cold res on a jewel that's socketed into a cluster that it looks like it isn't calcing

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/pl81177/character/tiamatria-7764/Mythik_TYTYSOLDMEFENT?i=2&search=skills%3DPenance%2BBrand%2Bof%2BDissipation

[short prairie]

literally the most important line

[spice pecan]

in hideout

i think it's not properly pulling the fractured cobalt jewel that has 25 total cold res on it because it's socketed into a cluster or something

[split maple]

yea

never saw that happen before

[short prairie]

[split maple]

its usually only issue with small clusters not with basic ass jewels

[spice pecan]

yeah and pob fixed the small cluster thing like at the start of mirage i thought

but idk what's going on with ninja and how it parses clusters

[short prairie]

i think it's alira

[spice pecan]

nah not alira

i just imported the pob and that jewel slot in the cluster is just empty lmao

[short prairie]

wait nvm they fixed the alira bug

[mental nymph]

How did he anoint the unique helm?

[spice pecan]

even tho the jewel is literally in the pob if you import it

and it's just... unused

I wonder if I should report this as a bug

[short prairie]

thats not anoint

it's standard

[mental nymph]

Ah

Enchant

[cedar yarrow]

ye

[short prairie]

some old mechanic

[mental nymph]

Gotcha

The weapon looks like a pain to make

[cedar yarrow]

it is

a pain to make

in league

[mental nymph]

Aside from that ,it's manageable

[mental nymph]

I mean you can settle for a good paradoxica

Till you figure things out

[short prairie]

i think you can make an anointed heatshiver? but you will have to turn some blight drops into it

[cedar yarrow]

is there an annoint helmet?

[short prairie]

afaik yes

[spice pecan]

there's 3

[cedar yarrow]

ik the best in slot amulet is 4 annoint yoke of suffering but im never crafting that

[split maple]

no

wrong base

[cedar yarrow]

also i cant replace eternal damnation

[rough field]

Might be better to vola vaal a heatshiver

[spice pecan]

cant chance yoke

[cedar yarrow]

its too broken

[spice pecan]

the best quad anoint amulet you can get is a replica dragonfang

which would be infinitely more painful

[cedar yarrow]

you corrupt stranglegasp then mythic orb it into yoke

[short prairie]

oh

[rough field]

Yoke is boss drop only so is un-chancable un-mythicable

[split maple]

yoke is not global drop

[short prairie]

it wasnt heatshiver, it was freaking abyssus

lmao

[spice pecan]

"Tainted Mythic Orbs can only create drop-anywhere uniques and will not create drop-restricted uniques."

[cedar yarrow]

then how are people crafting 4 annoint yokes?

[spice pecan]

yoke is drop restricted

[cedar yarrow]

like wat

[split maple]

they aint

[rough field]

Legacy

[split maple]

folks make 4 anoint carnages

[cedar yarrow]

sadge

[short prairie]

cant

[split maple]

or astras

[cedar yarrow]

yep then ig im sticking with eternal damnation

[rough field]

Yoke was global drop before moving to fortress boss drop

[livid quarry]

void the move is go ci flicker

[cedar yarrow]

id rather die

[spice pecan]

oh yeah I guess there are legacy yokes from 3.14 until 3.24 that were global drops

[cedar yarrow]

then i could just run trickster

[rough field]

Also legacy yoke corrupted is worse anyway

It got buffed when moved to boss drop

[short prairie]

don get me wrong, i can ACTUALLY CI flicker

[cedar yarrow]

same but i dont wanna

[short prairie]

theres a pcharge variant that focuses on defenses

[cedar yarrow]

true

but my defences are more dps

[rough field]

Pcharge stack with fb auxium for insane amount of %es?!

[short prairie]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/AParsh-7863/Bromagine?i=0&search=skills%3DFlicker%2BStrike%26sort%3Dlowestmax%26columns%3Dcharacter%252Clevel%252Clife%252Cenergyshield%252Cehp%252Clowestmax%252Cdps%252Ckeystoneskill

[rough field]

Who needs mageblood anyway

[short prairie]

not even the best possible helmet

else it can be a lot better

[spice pecan]

how do you actually make multiple spectres apply their effects in pob btw

or is this why ppl double link raise spectre in their pobs

[split maple]

Copy Link group

[livid quarry]

cool build

[split maple]

Each raise spectre in pob can only have one spectr

Is annoying

[spice pecan]

and then you have to custom config AG item buffs like dying breath etc right

[split maple]

For most items you just make item loadout

And assign to ag in calcs

Then figure out what isn't applying and custom config it

Also annoying :/

[spice pecan]

yeah that's what it looks like i gotta do, to be expected

I kind of wish there was somewhere on your character that was readable by the API that could tell what items are linked to your AG since it's stored per character

[split maple]

Whats your configed DPS now, 20mil?

[spice pecan]

uhh, let me double check everything

"have you dealt a non crit recently" is very tempting to check when i have 99.3% crit chance

also wtf

it had ignited ticked when i imported from pob.. despite doing zero fire damage

[short prairie]

if he swaps his current helm

[split maple]

Would kinda rly want to fix mediums at some point

[spice pecan]

https://pobb.in/g4iCa9Vhkr5v

nah, still kinda doodoo

[split maple]

Tho ig that depends on price of yellow lifeforce in pl

[short prairie]

6600 ehp

[spice pecan]

I mean, what do you actually want besides 3x remarkable and 1x brand loyalty?

[split maple]

Grand design + remarkable 3x

[spice pecan]

6599 too much for sanctum

[split maple]

Grand design + seeker runes 1x

[spice pecan]

oh hmm, interesting

yeah I guess brand loyalty is kinda whatever compared to grand design and seeker runes

ironically that remarkable + brand loyalty jewel was 1 alt, 1 aug, 1 regal, and 1 exalt

at this point im just waiting for pc ralakesh to come onto the market, been live searching for 2 days

[split maple]

Grand+remark is harvest reforge speed but is kinda spendy

Needed like 20k lifeforce each for mine

[spice pecan]

gross

do you recall if you cared about ilvl?

if it's irrespective of ilvl for the notables i might give it a try

oh they're just both level 68+ so no targeting of like weird ilvl range, word

[gusty sigil]

Hi

How whould one go about finding their fourth void stone

I have it I have no clue where it is

[cosmic eagle]

show your atlas

[split palm]

that doesn't help at all, did you even finish it fully?

or did you buy a voidstone carry 😭

[gusty sigil]

No clue but I'm sure I had all four

[cosmic eagle]

ah ok i see, so you bought carries

[spice pecan]

3 or 4 voidstones in storage

[rough field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode--k01KR3CQNESCYGZ39MYS06V72QD

[cosmic eagle]

what you need to do dawg is to clear the atlas

[split palm]

also wtf is that brightness

[rough field]

My eyes from dat screenshot 😿

Pls Win + Shift + S...

[cosmic eagle]

you have to clear each quadrant and reveal all the maps

[gusty sigil]

No discord on PC

[cosmic eagle]

like this

[rough field]

😿

[cosmic eagle]

and it will show the socket for the voidstones

[gusty sigil]

I cleared most it of it tho

[cosmic eagle]

atm your atlas is not fully revealed so you are not yet qualified to slot it in

[gusty sigil]

I have like 90 atlas points

[split palm]

I hope they change the way it works to be a bit less clunky by the time this comes to poe

[cosmic eagle]

you did not clear silo yet lmao

you have to reveal the final t16 map for each quadrant

it's silo, palace, alleyways and marshes

[gusty sigil]

Wtf is this I already have all the four void stones equiped in merc and did most of t16s

[cosmic eagle]

[gusty sigil]

[spice pecan]

in merc? you mean 2 leagues ago?

[gusty sigil]

I'm in standard

[cosmic eagle]

merc and and new mirage league is new or are you talking about standard?

[spice pecan]

i figured, given that you have mageblood

and all your voids in voidstone storage lol

[cosmic eagle]

yeah standard changed bud, i told you to reveal the last t16 maps first it dont matter if you clear the atlas in mercs

[spice pecan]

it used to be that in standard, you could complete one current series t16 and get all the atlas points if the character who migrated had them all in league

idk if that works anymore

[gusty sigil]

I have no clue how to work this fucking map device

[gusty sigil]

I did one map and got a shit ton of atlas points but it was a t10

[cosmic eagle]

you clearly cleared some of it

[gusty sigil]

My character is like nerfed to shit

[spice pecan]

then theoretically you got everything t10 and below

[gusty sigil]

I did like 1 map in standard

[spice pecan]

do a current series T16 map

[gusty sigil]

Ah alright

Thanks a lot

[spice pecan]

and i think it should unlock the rest of them?

again, that's how it worked before atlas rework

unsure if it still does, but worth trying

it could also fail to work if you already did a current series map of any tier

[cosmic eagle]

you need to finish these little dots, you can buy itemized map from kirac, if it says tier 13 you can go use t14-16 but you cant use under t13

[spice pecan]

isn't it the inverse

[spice pecan]

higher tier map object works on lower or equal tier map location, but not higher? idk

[gusty sigil]

Oh I have a shit ton of t16s and 17s

I'll just run those

Pray it opens

[cosmic eagle]

you can go over but not under lol

[spice pecan]

yeah just make sure it's part of the current series iirc

[gusty sigil]

I don't understand the series thing

[cosmic eagle]

fook you mean pray it opens

it will open as long as you read the damn thing

[spice pecan]

some layouts rotate out every season, and returning layouts rotate back in

[cosmic eagle]

t17 is dead bud, we have nightmare maps

[gusty sigil]

Ah

If I can run t16s with a build

Its not nerfed to oblivion technically right?

[surreal mulch]

t17 with the increased inherent quant would be pretty balanced in current atlas because you can't put astrolabes on them

[cosmic eagle]

if your build can run t16 maps, just slot in t16 on those dots that i told you to open to reveal the voidstone slot

[gusty sigil]

Aight thanks

Yeh

All of it opened up

Its now like 100/100

[spice pecan]

yeah now take your voidstones and put them in the sockets in the four corners of the atlas

[devout shoal]

i finally sold something overnight

[primal vale]

Guys i got a question, if i buy this effect on poe1 will it also be available on poe2?

[gusty sigil]

Yeh done thanks a lot

Will int stacking come back in the feature by any chance?

[vestal wolf]

Does anyone know what scarabs are people running for gold rotas? 3x gilded, bloodlines, allflame? with ores and quant rarity for the atlas?

[devout shoal]

theyre different games so id assume no

[frigid wedge]

iirc theres a glittering scarab

being used

[split palm]

Hi sans

[primal vale]

but they mentioned something else

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[split palm]

later

they slowly make all mtx available in both games

like poo2 finally got a fragment tab

[frigid wedge]

nvm u right

[spice pecan]

int stacking is still very good

[tawdry olive]

The main thing that got gutted is your max hit

[frigid wedge]

int stacking is fine, it got mostly defensive nerfs

[tawdry olive]

Yea offensively it’s okay

[frigid wedge]

most of the nerfs to ur build were trickster nerfs and loss of mercenary @gusty sigil

u only have 900 intel

[gusty sigil]

Soo I'm good?

[short prairie]

https://pobb.in/zMbAkpRdZOkq so far i improved some of the things the guy was lacking

[frigid wedge]

ur reliant on trickster

u can fix the build tho

ive said this

just gonna be diff

[gusty sigil]

Ah yeh but like how

[short prairie]

i need to find a way to jam in melding

[gusty sigil]

And I just ran a t16 with it and it worked

[frigid wedge]

not speccing so hard into escape artist for example

[gusty sigil]

But it can't farm probably

[frigid wedge]

getting better source for leech bc soul drinker dedge

iirc ur no longer suppress capped

speccing out of int stacking and leaning into more generic es sources

[short prairie]

Why’s soul drinker dedge

Still one of the better anoints for the left side of the tree

[frigid wedge]

compared to before

not an anoint

ascendancy for trickster

[devout shoal]

ok im the only guy who runs heist on sc mirage

[frigid wedge]

oh sorry it lost attack speed

[devout shoal]

i went to sleep and contract prices dropped by 8x

[frigid wedge]

defensively soul drinker is fine

The Soul Drinker Notable Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer has 20% increased Attack and Cast Speed while Leeching Energy Shield.

u need more attack speed sources now tho

The Spellbreaker Notable Ascendancy Passive Skill no longer has +20% chance to Suppress Spell Damage, and now has Prevent +15% of Suppressed Spell Damage while on Full Energy Shield (previously 10%).

The One Step Ahead Notable Ascendancy Passive Skill now has Your Action Speed is at least 90% of base value (previously 108%), and Nearby Enemy Monsters' Action Speed is at most 90% of base value (previously 92%

The Polymath Ascendancy Passive Skill now provides 2% more Damage for each different type of Mastery you have Allocated (previously 3%).

The Escape Artist Ascendancy Passive Skill now provides +4 to Evasion Rating per 1 Maximum Energy Shield on Equipped Helmet (previously +5), and +1 to Maximum Energy Shield per 8 Evasion Rating on Equipped Body Armour (previously per 6).
@gusty sigil

[vestal wolf]

im guesing they take the atlas passive where it turns quant to rarity

[frigid wedge]

nah

quant affects gold

u drop more gold piles with quant

u drop larger piles with rarity

ur rarity culler already has like 600 rarity tho and u can get like 300 on map before mod effect

u want the quant

[vestal wolf]

you dont go rarity culler

you just go kb with rarity and quant gold gear

[frigid wedge]

sorry, rarity CARRY

still has 600

[vestal wolf]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/hieuemne-9094/mirage_peterpon?i=0&search=name%3Dmirage_pete

this look like a good aurabot?

[frigid wedge]

considering 99% of its dps is from aurabot

[gusty sigil]

Woww so what do I replace these with?

The replacements must be expensive as shit since the one step ahead was a pain In the ass to get and the helmet

[vestal wolf]

although the passive tree is going to be different

[frigid wedge]

it looks aight

[vestal wolf]

doesnt have 300% aura effect

but c'est la vie

ill change amulet to stranglegrasp

and helm to +5

[frigid wedge]

pick up more suppress
use twilight regalia (i think?)
cry about one step ahead and use a bloodline or smth
cry about polymath and maybe take less masteries that have minimal impact other than ascend dmg
get more attack speed

[frigid wedge]

+5 what

[vestal wolf]

+5 to socketed

[frigid wedge]

level helm?

ain't that a bigass synth

[vestal wolf]

no

[short prairie]

why trickster nowadays when slayer is the better option

[vestal wolf]

+1 fossil mod +2 aura unveiled +2 aoe

[gusty sigil]

Ah could you be a little more specific about the bad mastejers and what bloodline?

[frigid wedge]

bc they're grasping at straws hoping it will still be good

[vestal wolf]

aul bloodline

[gusty sigil]

Or just fuck around on pob till I reach something good

[frigid wedge]

honestly id grab farrul to make up for the loss of soul drinker attack speed

scene as ur not running rt for whatever reason anyway

[split palm]

.<

[frigid wedge]

i don't remember ur masteries off top of my head

[short prairie]

Just look at the pcharge slayer https://pobb.in/zMbAkpRdZOkq way better than trickster bro. I’m not even finished with my tweaks to that guys pob

I’m trying to make it multi mirror

[full fossil]

how could you not know smh stupid

[gusty sigil]

Resolute technique? I think it was for something like crit or ebalde or something I don't remember it was like 5 months ago

[frigid wedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/redf230-4265/MirageSMITEqq

[frigid wedge]

yeah its far better but apparently he dont got long to play atm and just wants to play the game

#2┃general

[gusty sigil]

I should follow this?

[nova minnow]

the new pack mtx not that crazy

my head has been replaced with a black birck

[vestal wolf]

dont go trickster unless you already have a levelled shadow

[frigid wedge]

hes on standard and im tryna help him fix his ee build from mercs so that the game is even mildly playable

[frigid wedge]

take some level of inspiration, or level a slayer

[nova minnow]

main thing to take from public builds is

how they build defenses

and how they scale dmg

[frigid wedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/Walh0r-3526/ i think its so ironic that number 1 dps for ee sodj without screams rn is slayer

[nova minnow]

i made my build copying parts of other builds and toying about PoE

[frigid wedge]

i grab 3 or 4 ppl and cross reference when im tryna make a build ppl already play

[nova minnow]

yeah coz the trees will be same in areas

then gear allows abit of variance

depending on what they use

I copied abit of int stacking stuff from the templars using jiquanni

[sterile scaffold]

is there anyone using white weapon effect on flicker strike? i wanna see 🙁

[nova minnow]

then i copied the mine nodes from other ppl running mines

[tawdry olive]

Yea I’m not yet at the level where I make shit from scratch yet, I sure as hell can crib poe ninja tho

Then put my own spin on it

[frigid wedge]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/sodaaaa-6156/TrickySoda
theres also a lot of ppl playing normal smite, self using doryanis is the only way ur gonna have similar dps to ur old char

on trickster

[short prairie]

Ye for short term slayer is best

[frigid wedge]

he already has the trickster

i agree that slayer ee is far better

[short prairie]

No

Without ee

[frigid wedge]

it runs eb or ee

[short prairie]

Non CI

[frigid wedge]

wtf

[short prairie]

Why the guy like CI so much?

[frigid wedge]

ur pob is literally ee ci

[frigid wedge]

fixing his current char

not making from scratch

https://pobb.in/iukj4T34-jGR

[short prairie]

No I’m saying, if not enough time to play this game, slayer or berserker those all rounded characters will generally do way better.

[frigid wedge]

we're putting this into a workable state

[short prairie]

But given the situation here it doesn’t apply

[native abyss]

[short prairie]

This is his character?

[frigid wedge]

his current yes

[short prairie]

F

[frigid wedge]

from mercs

im p sure just adding whispers anoint and conductivity with exposure on gloves would like triple the dps tho

for minimal effort

using crit here is a waste of time tho and voice of the storm would be massive value

[short prairie]

I’m not on my pc anymore

Else I would fix

He needs RT EE if he goes non crit

Crit is fine, otherwise won’t be able to scale damage with low budget

Plenty of crit nodes on the right side

This is merc league but where’s the mirage league character to fix?

[frigid wedge]

he just came back from a big break

is on std

[short prairie]

so he’s gonna play in std i see

[frigid wedge]

just wanted to play a lil before he went again iirc

[short prairie]

Went again what

[rough field]

I like dat tech I saw with fb blue nightmare converting some lightning to chaos and use unholy trinity to ignore res

[grizzled lily]

the dmg😭

[rough field]

Doesn't have to convert too much because high roll range

[frigid wedge]

ye idk

[frigid wedge]

yeah he
a. hasnt got much config setup
b. didnt have a good pob to BEGIN WITH
c. got shit on by nerfs

[short prairie]

Should be doubled, since it’s smite

But 1m is still kind of low

[frigid wedge]

thats not much better

[grizzled lily]

tea but isnt smite slayer just much better

[frigid wedge]

yes

[grizzled lily]

u just stack brown items

and have a good time

u dont even need a good sword

cool foil works

[short prairie]

I wish I had my pc with me on bed so I can edit the pob

[grizzled lily]

pobcool

[short prairie]

But it’s a desktop

[grizzled lily]

but that thing is so

hard to work with on the phone

[short prairie]

It ain’t working on phone

[grizzled lily]

it used to

[short prairie]

Phone overheats

[mint radish]

Hello, I was just talking to another player, and they suggested I look into what they describe as "Queen of Spark" that includes poe1 and poe2. He couldn't remember her name, but described her as a female that has a "rocker look" blonde hair, and has collaborated with One Mana Left. Anyone know who this person is? I want to see their spark builds

[grizzled lily]

i might pob a smite slayer when home and have it for standard maybe

[frigid wedge]

pob doesn't let u click and drag anything so u gotta have a copy paste for every single item and it crashes nearly every time u paste

https://pobb.in/Is9Ag9NooyO7
heres the original build with, probably incorrect config and he was reliant on a mercenary before

i cba to add second skill set

its still ass

[short prairie]

Oh boy

[grizzled lily]

holy crit smite trickster

[short prairie]

400% crit multi but 40% crit chance

My guy

[frigid wedge]

if i had to guess it was using a precision merc

[short prairie]

[grizzled lily]

kineticist

[grizzled lily]

was there even one like that

[short prairie]

Prob

[grizzled lily]

the bow one had precision

but you werent able to use a

doryiani then

plus kineticist had better auras so maybe just

[gusty sigil]

Alright thanks a lot

I'll try to fix it next time I'm on

[grizzled lily]

gigachad 40% of the times dealing dmg

[gusty sigil]

Thanks a lot for the help

[grizzled lily]

its not worth it imo

[grizzled lily]

you wont deal enough dmg

to even kill one uber

[full fossil]

im assuming theres no way to itemize a sanctum when your on the last floor.

[gusty sigil]

I just wanna play a bit before shit gets bad again

[grizzled lily]

ofc dw

on mercs you had -200 lightning res all the time

[frigid wedge]

drop crit, grab rt ephemeral edge, voice of the storm, drop generals cry, grab conductivity and exposure on the gloves with anoint for whispers of doom

[frigid wedge]

see how it goes

[grizzled lily]

so it was like a 70mil as every time

[frigid wedge]

swap tincture to prismatic with pen probably or attack speed

[grizzled lily]

now youre 3mil

[gusty sigil]

Alright sure I'll try to do that thanks a lot

[grizzled lily]

as

[gusty sigil]

Oh yeh I have those I think

[spice pecan]

actually got a zero affliction run

[short prairie]

The double influenced le hupe of all is insane for trickster btw

[frigid wedge]

u mean foulborn

[grizzled lily]

yete

yeye

[gusty sigil]

Oh I also have a vfos

Is that like useable

Or was that nerfed to shit too

[short prairie]

Wait double foulborn yes

I need to go to sleep

[frigid wedge]

it has less single target but it should be aight

[short prairie]

My brain no longer working

[frigid wedge]

they made it so it no longer hits boss multiple times

[gusty sigil]

Oh alright

[frigid wedge]

but it still does good

[gusty sigil]

Oh so it's not crazy anymore

[frigid wedge]

its not crazy but it is far more viable than an es stack trickster

[gusty sigil]

Yeh you're right

[frigid wedge]

lost some aoe too

but otherwise is chill

[grizzled lily]

what was the nerf to vfos

was it targetting nerf or

forgot completely

[gusty sigil]

I think I sold all my equipment for it or maybe I'm wrong

[frigid wedge]

if fissure hits a mob the next fissure wont target it anymore

[gusty sigil]

Idk I think it was cheap to buy

[full fossil]

does uber atziri drop anything worth while

[frigid wedge]

No longer has 50% more Area of Effect. Fissures will not automatically target enemies hit by the Explosion of the previous Fissure in the Chain.

[frigid wedge]

greater spell echo

is like 35d

[grizzled lily]

that sounds so bad okay

[frigid wedge]

i dont think it needs to be uber atzi

[grizzled lily]

maybe not so bad

but it was so fun on mercs

[frigid wedge]

it can still hit multiple times if u have mobs near ur boss, eg with hateful accuser

[full fossil]

wiki mentions alluring abyss

[grizzled lily]

losing your ring slot for that

[full fossil]

cant remember if normal atziri is here too

[grizzled lily]

kinda stupid imo

[frigid wedge]

the aoe still hits, it just wont ACTIVELY look for same target

[frigid wedge]

tbh losing ur ring for double to triple damage if u have a curse available isnt so bad

[gusty sigil]

Are the servers shittier these days

Or is my connection just bad

[frigid wedge]

sometimes yes sometimes no

servers shit themselves occasionally

[full fossil]

i havent had any server issues since league start

[gusty sigil]

Yeh it's prob me

Like pairing a VPN and poe servers is a disaster waiting to happen

[full fossil]

oh.

2nd kill

[frigid wedge]

nice!

[tawdry olive]

Bruh

[full fossil]

i just hold right click and zone out

spark moment

[frigid wedge]

real

i need to get my vls online

[full fossil]

or q if my hand hurts 🙂

wish the first bosses of the atziri fight spawned quicker

would cut this fight time alot

[short prairie]

[full fossil]

chat should i farm 1k uber atziris today

and see how many gse's i get

[cedar yarrow]

what kind of phase skip dps does bro do

[full fossil]

dont think you can phase skip atziri

even with inf dmg lol

[cedar yarrow]

you can

[frigid wedge]

yes

[cedar yarrow]

old league someone did it

[frigid wedge]

things get changed

[rough field]

You can do enough dps to not deal with minions

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/bRcCt.gif

@frigid wedge get out of my atziri fight smh

[rough field]

But you can't make atziri skip a mirror phase I don't think

[frigid wedge]

u mean the phase where u just stand there for 10 mins afk bc she cant be bothered to spawn shit?

[grizzled lily]

wtf

[rough field]

Yus...

[grizzled lily]

shoot your shot bro

[rough field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-cats-324--k01KR3HVXNJ3XW3CQ7GQYVQVDEX

[frigid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-crush-gif-27632046

[full fossil]

[grizzled lily]

https://tenor.com/view/curry-ball-galaxy-basket-basketball-gif-17152221060007105459

[frigid wedge]

how much damage I need

[devout shoal]

ok i got an admin map

[frigid wedge]

man really dropped that shit and ran

[devout shoal]

5 experimented item bps in a single mirage

[frigid wedge]

are u literally just farming mirage caches

[grizzled lily]

were u waiting for more from him?

[devout shoal]

yes rn i am

[frigid wedge]

i kinda expected him to try and follow up

[devout shoal]

cause im out of reveals

[grizzled lily]

@full fossil bro ur in the clear leave that atziri

[rough field]

Idk da exactly threshold... but having chill and freeze helps to slow her down

[full fossil]

what

[devout shoal]

and the supply is so low that i bought all the ones that arent overpriced

[frigid wedge]

what if i slow down the instance instead

[rough field]

Real

[frigid wedge]

i need more rage gen

and to finish this helmet and ring

[grizzled lily]

he/she is waiting for a followup bro

cmon i cant be your wingman here

[full fossil]

im gaming

its all you bro

[frigid wedge]

i prob have some

you should try replica item bps for a bit btw

considering they 1c

[devout shoal]

i want to get reveals not to waste them

[frigid wedge]

its a 1c blueprint

dont reveal it

just 1 wing it

[silent leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/catnapping-cat-kidnap-cat-steal-that-was-useful-cat-bag-gif-15383237504303739740

[grizzled lily]

im not dabbling with this stuff bro plus u alr called her beautiful cmon

[devout shoal]

thats how a +4 reveal contract looks like

im farming them

[frigid wedge]

i meant try some replica item blueprints when ur done (dont reveal) to compare to experimentals

[rough field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324235206902677656/1360576500318867576/insanecat.gif

[frigid wedge]

replica alberons literally cost more than simplexes

[silent leaf]

im stealing that

[rough field]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/109806361373655040/1191536443609333760/attachment-3.gif

[devout shoal]

ive done it like twice and theres nothing worth more than 3c in there

[silent leaf]

i too, will be stealing that

[devout shoal]

and its probably 10x rarer

and also focused amulet exists

[silent leaf]

nah

about the same

[full fossil]

untrue i asked why theey in my map

[grizzled lily]

damnnn

[frigid wedge]

tbf literally sent a screenshot of beauty

[grizzled lily]

ur doubling down on it

[devout shoal]

its probably ok to run them then

[frigid wedge]

that ones on u

[devout shoal]

im just not gonna

[grizzled lily]

hes not denying it

hes just shy rn

blushing and allat

[silent leaf]

from prohibited library discord

[frigid wedge]

kek

tbf within pool

[devout shoal]

that is from normal blueprints

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[devout shoal]

and we have experimented base ones now

[frigid wedge]

whats the % of the drop pool there for replica/experimental

[silent leaf]

3.28 has no data prob cause of this kek

[frigid wedge]

i would like the 3.27 data, as a % of experimental and % of replica

[silent leaf]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dDDMRc3GAE4G0X-lJeLXSHaGtLLNf612nrFiOyCo0Vs/edit?gid=1552361136#gid=1552361136

[frigid wedge]

mm

wont download xD

[frigid wedge]

nahh man is just in it for the love of the game

[grizzled lily]

true

planted the seed

[frigid wedge]

i didn't consent to him planting his seed

what

[grizzled lily]

the seed of thought you pervert

😭

[frigid wedge]

WHERE IS BLA

WHY ARE WE NOT BLA ING

[split palm]

me using just three or four emojis total

[grizzled lily]

who even uses this

[frigid wedge]

had to make a bla penis

[split palm]

poo2 chat probably

I can't sleep

bleh

[grizzled lily]

poe2 has bad taste in emojis

[split palm]

😂
are like the three I use

[frigid wedge]

[modest sparrow]

[limpid prairie]

there are some pretty ones

[split palm]

I just don't use emojis much

I prefer the silly old ones

like (:

[limpid prairie]

:3

[modest sparrow]

I use this when Im pissed

Cause its like the fakest smiley to ever smile

[split palm]

emoticons>>>>emojis

[short prairie]

[split palm]

I think I am one of the few mentally insane people on this godforsaken planet to have the "(" before the ":"

[short prairie]

@split palm I’ll prob play RF in poo2 just so you know

[split palm]

since everyone else does it like this :)

[frigid wedge]

excluding the first one ur just picking ones that look like you

[modest sparrow]

I mean idk, could be some culture thing

[split palm]

sure

[modest sparrow]

Doesn't the staff need smth like lvl 84 or even 90

[frigid wedge]

✧⁠◝⁠(⁠⁰⁠▿⁠⁰⁠)⁠◜⁠✧

[grizzled lily]

does poe2 have spectres

[limpid prairie]

(◕︿◕✿)

[grizzled lily]

okay

what if u go

[short prairie]

f

[frigid wedge]

you

(\ /)
(0ωO)
|υ υ\_/}

[grizzled lily]

normal necro until u get the staff then just go rf spectre maxxing

[limpid prairie]

true xD they are to express yourself after all

[split palm]

depends on the skill level

if it grants 20 it's 86 lvl req.

i think

[modest sparrow]

Jeez

[split palm]

but RF being scaled by minions sounds super fun

[modest sparrow]

I hate that this is probably the actual RF of poe2 and not just a variant of an actual RF that's coming out later

But hey, at least its gonna be able to have damage now

[split palm]

yeah, since not dot

[limpid prairie]

i think this is horrible we are not gonna be able to laugh at RF anymore

the ravens will eat us alive

[modest sparrow]

And is actually scaled by something that isn't HP and isn't bound by DoT cap

[split palm]

also it has ZERO cost I think

since es, hp, mana are all full

and spirit is also full

[frigid wedge]

when are we gonna get engi turrets from ror2

totems with a relatively large less dmg multiplier that walk around like skitterbots

[split palm]

plus it basically does more damage the better your clearspeed is xd

[short prairie]

it’s gonna be minion death aura

I hate death aura

Zdps

[modest sparrow]

Hold on you know peak

[split palm]

new silly scroll...

tacks fucking sales lmao

[frigid wedge]

i haven't played since seekers dropped bc they released 2 dlc 75% of cost of game or smth in a short period and i got irritated and then felt like i was missing out

[modest sparrow]

Gonna be funny in poe1

[split palm]

yeah, they work in poe

[modest sparrow]

Alloyed collective is PEAK though

Genuinely try it out sometime

[limpid prairie]

Really funny
i do want to know how many alts i have used in the league

[split palm]

coming into mtx store this poo2 league btw

[frigid wedge]

is there ANOTHER dlc?

or was that part of seekers

[split palm]

it's new

well

[modest sparrow]

There is the void one, Seekers of the storm and alloyed collective

[split palm]

older than collective

void
seekers
collective

[frigid wedge]

bleh

[modest sparrow]

Drifter is so fucking fun to play, operator is so silly too

[frigid wedge]

maybe ill try eventually

[short prairie]

Drifter better

[modest sparrow]

Real

[short prairie]

I’m talking about Warframe

[frigid wedge]

is drifter just a damn car

[modest sparrow]

Bruh

The items it brings are also very funny, honestly just play with someone who has the dlcs

You'll have just as much fun

[short prairie]

Drifter in Warframe is peak

[modest sparrow]

[frigid wedge]

im still upset they patched sing bands

i get why but that shit was so peak

[silent leaf]

ngl, i kinda like warframe story, until they fucking introduced the equivalent of discord annoying kids into the story

[frigid wedge]

anyone got any idea how to fill my mana every 4s without regen or flask, i reallllllyyyyy dont wanna be leech reliant

kek

[silent leaf]

idk, mana regen aura + arrogance?