1┃general

[mental nymph]

So pretty decent

[tranquil sedge]

that is the price of the gems

thats fine

factor that into the profit

[livid quarry]

goddamn everyone out to bully senses today

[tranquil sedge]

but first subtract the actual cost

you can't call the cost zero because its not zero

[full kraken]

ah, so what you are looking for is just the avg profit from the vaal step only

[short prairie]

i wish my boss is as talkative as WTD

[tranquil sedge]

well yea xd

[full kraken]

not sure tbh

[tranquil sedge]

coz thats wat decides do u bother vaaling

or just dumping into a merch tab

[onyx adder]

I am the best boss

[full kraken]

its a good point to bring up cuz imbuing might make uncorrupted 20/20 gems better ROE

[cobalt blade]

lets just take HoP as a baseline

[onyx adder]

Come work for me i need a junior

[mental nymph]

Vaal huh

That's more of a miss than a hit

[full kraken]

yeah so youd do (5*390)/8 - 129

[short prairie]

im too far away

[mental nymph]

For almost everything

[hard cliff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1t5n2kt/hoi_enjoyer_divine_blast_elementalist/

this is so cool

[wheat sinew]

:D

[tranquil sedge]

plus gcp cost

[cobalt blade]

on average you get 1 level 21 per set of 9 gems (its a 1/8 or 12.5% to get +1 lvl)

[mental nymph]

Assuming you're lucky

[full kraken]

no the 129 cost is for a 20/20 gem so thats after the GCP step

[tranquil sedge]

im blind ignore that statement

[onyx adder]

Ive got at least two team members that i swear to god are on a different planet even when theyre at their desks

[mental nymph]

Kek

[onyx adder]

Compared to that Seattle is basically next door

[full kraken]

yeah so its positive EV to corrupt it

[short prairie]

so remote work is acceptable?

[cobalt blade]

not by alot but yeah

[full kraken]

BETTER QUESTION though is... is it better to instead level a 20/20 gem and imbue it yourself

[onyx adder]

Minimum 2 days in the office sorry

[cobalt blade]

the only imbue i see people buying is maybe arrogancd

[full kraken]

cuz its possible gambling on certain 20/20 gems you level and coin'ing them is even better EV by a lot

[cobalt blade]

or eternal blessing for purity

[tranquil sedge]

theres so much money to be made in imbues

[short prairie]

wheres yours located

[tranquil sedge]

its legitimately how i made most money this league

[full kraken]

Cyclone prolly is gonna have lots of $$$ hits to imbue on isnt it

[onyx adder]

And u dont wanna be in this office its brand new very shiny very expensive and nothing works

[tranquil sedge]

and its not even my strat, friend shared it with me lol

[onyx adder]

Sydney

[cobalt blade]

ye im just thinking for HoP/purity of elements specifically

[mental nymph]

Maybe it's worth to lvl up if youre running breach

Otherwise no

[cobalt blade]

I made a shit ton imbuing for my own gems every time after calculating EV

lol

just to be sure it was worth it

[full kraken]

it doesnt matter what the exp source is, its always worth it

[onyx adder]

Yesterday we had raw sewage leaking into the mens bathroom corridor because some idiot clogged a toilet with wet wipes

[short prairie]

bro we are literally on the opposite side of the earth

[onyx adder]

Who the fuck does that

[mental nymph]

It takes too long

[tranquil sedge]

ye the trick is once you find that once

[cobalt blade]

it matters because your spending 3-5 minutes swapping out qualitying and vaaling gems

[cobalt blade]

Ye

[short prairie]

[tranquil sedge]

you milk it for as long as you can

[mental nymph]

And the return is usually not worth to the effort and time wasted

[cobalt blade]

i know of a few good ones

[tranquil sedge]

and the important thing is you undercut everyone and their mother

[cobalt blade]

Even one nigh guaranteed one

[full kraken]

the only atual time investment is the time it takes you to buy 9 gems from lilly and socket them, and the time it takes you later to unsocket them and use 180 GCPs and then corrupt

[tranquil sedge]

if they list for 10d you list for 9
and you keep doing that over and over
kick everyone out of the market

[full kraken]

which is like... 1-2 minutes total time spent

[timber vine]

duelist confirmed

[tranquil sedge]

honestly
i would rather think of that as a short break in mapping than bother to do the div/hr math on it

[short prairie]

ppl using insoluble paper in the toilet is the funniest thing

ngl

[full kraken]

the exp you make has no bearing on this time

[cobalt blade]

bro what im thinking div/hr

[full kraken]

whether or not my gems level 1 to 20 instantly or take 3 weeks, thats "free" because I was doing normal shit

[cobalt blade]

3-5 minutes spent here is 3-5 minutes not mapping

[tranquil sedge]

i wouldn't do it while mapping btw

just swap the gems and go back to next map asap

dump all into a tab

[full kraken]

yes but thats not the exp time

[tranquil sedge]

do it later when ur bored

[cobalt blade]

i wouldnt do it at all but thats fair

[tranquil sedge]

if only i had your efficiency mindset

maybe i would be succesful

sadge

[full kraken]

like the point is whether or not you make 30mil exp/hr or 2bil exp/hr, this has no impact on the effort it takes you to do the actual work part of the gems

because the actual time spent on the gem stuff is literally the time not exping

[cobalt blade]

True but if your xp source is say sitting in 5 ways its alot more reasonable to swap out the gems than spending less time mapping

(just adding that since you can make profit afking in 5 ways levelling gems)

[tranquil sedge]

do i let my div sit as div or buy a mirror

its 1138d atm

[full kraken]

I mean you also can sit and alt spam flasks while in a 5 way

[cobalt blade]

mirror

[mental nymph]

See how ridiculous this sounds

[cobalt blade]

Yup

or you can craft items for your build

[full kraken]

no... its literally how it works

[cobalt blade]

bring in stacks of fossils

[mental nymph]

And yes

It's still ridiculous

[full kraken]

k

[mental nymph]

But you do what you enjoy

[full kraken]

anyways

[tranquil sedge]

you're all weird

who does anything but relax in 5-ways

[cobalt blade]

well yes we play poe

[livid quarry]

ppl try so hard to farm cuz ggg makes us poor

[cobalt blade]

i just dont touch 5ways personally

but if i did i would optimize them because its how i enjoy games

[mental nymph]

Me neither

[cobalt blade]

[tranquil sedge]

enlightens and chill

[full kraken]

if it takes you about 2min total of effort, and you are looking at ~160c EV per gem, thats 3.7div EV then per 2 min

which means it clocks in at 110 div/hr....

[tranquil sedge]

takes like 13 runs or smth to level them up

so very little clickity

[full kraken]

like that is incredibly worth it lol

[tranquil sedge]

downside is running the temples after but meh

fun break

[onyx adder]

We all have thousands of messages in a videogame discord

None of us are successful

[cobalt blade]

think id do trans gems personally over enlightens for specifically 5ways

[full kraken]

even if you say it takes 4min effort instead thats still 55D/hr

[cobalt blade]

and just selling them to people gambling

[tranquil sedge]

yes but that would require finding out what gems i wanna do

[sleek barn]

i am successful in the realm of this discord right

[full kraken]

(it shouldnt take you that long though lol)

[cobalt blade]

Tru

[sleek barn]

[tranquil sedge]

enlightens were kinda funny price for a while the EV on double corrupting them was stupidly high

[cobalt blade]

fym you have to use 180gcp's without spamming hard enough you get kicked for too many actions

[full kraken]

I had a spreadsheet for awhile that let me work out the min/max EV for gem exp

[tranquil sedge]

ctrl right click

[cobalt blade]

and move around 9 gems

[cobalt blade]

i think that takes like 30 seconds per gem?

[tranquil sedge]

https://gemoracle.vercel.app/

https://gems.poetools.dev/

[full kraken]

and it often was the lv 20 gems that came out ahead over the woke ones

[tranquil sedge]

smh
its a few seconds

[cobalt blade]

Isnt the auto use one rly slow

[tranquil sedge]

slower than manual yes

but one click instead of 20

[cobalt blade]

idk i click 9-12 times a second so i might be overestimating the average persons click speed(still need to figure out scroll wheel clicking on linux)

[full kraken]

holy shit instantly added to bookmarks so fast

[tranquil sedge]

mfw same when i saw those first time

someone linked it earlier in discord lol

[mental nymph]

9-12....clicks ?

[cobalt blade]

ye

2 finger clicking

[mental nymph]

What are you?Wally west?

[red heath]

What you guys doing today I'm bored dms open

[cobalt blade]

??

its not that fast

[tranquil sedge]

no thanks

bye bye now

[full fossil]

this is omega wrong

[mental nymph]

You can go for like a round or 2 ,try pixel method

[full fossil]

iirc lvl1 is 4d

[mental nymph]

If you're still curious

[tranquil sedge]

you are correct

feel like the disclaimer 'double check prices' is implied

[sleek barn]

why tf is it worth 4d

[mental nymph]

There is the thing with gems

[full fossil]

charlatan

[cobalt blade]

rly good phys spell

[tranquil sedge]

meta build

[mental nymph]

Where people tend to undersell

[cobalt blade]

for Charlie/hh to scale

[mental nymph]

To sell fast

[cobalt blade]

and yknow circle proj means you just hit the whole screen

or 3

[sleek barn]

it ain't even 4d on poe ninja

[tranquil sedge]

the second website has it listed correctly

its UI is also a little better honestly i would use that one

[mental nymph]

You have to check the actual pricings

[sleek barn]

yeah ik i saw the pricings

[full fossil]

idk you say that but its still like wrong for some like this even thouogh it says confidence high

[sleek barn]

was the raise in price recent

[cobalt blade]

Its prob getting fucked by bad imbues

[sleek barn]

oh true

[tranquil sedge]

sigh

lemme check

[sleek barn]

well i did uncorrupted

[tranquil sedge]

zzzzz

ok guess they both suck and need to be pricechecked

@full kraken

[cobalt blade]

and rhe very next one is 19 19 19 etc

[tranquil sedge]

do your own diligence ig

[cobalt blade]

That's just one person trying to quick sell for 18 lol

[tranquil sedge]

that person has it right

thats how you sell

undercut EVERYONE

[mental nymph]

Like I said

[cobalt blade]

including yourself

[mental nymph]

Gem sellers tend quick sell a lot

[tranquil sedge]

gotcha gonna list for 1c

[sleek barn]

i don't remember buying cast on ward break for that much

[cobalt blade]

if you drop a second one list it for 17

[sleek barn]

i dunno though

[cobalt blade]

they spiked a shit ton

[tranquil sedge]

their price is kinda volatile ye

a week ago it was 12-13d or smth

[cobalt blade]

ppl realized it drops from the worst possible source i think

lol

no sane person wants to run citadel

[sleek barn]

i bought it when it was 10d

saved

[tranquil sedge]

leap slam made me hate it less but still

citadel's not very fun ye

still the worst nightmare map layout

[sleek barn]

i remember shika farming it pretty early

[cobalt blade]

Yea no sane person

[sleek barn]

i just don't like the beams in the boss room

[mental nymph]

Leap slam hater ?

[tranquil sedge]

shika's the only reason i ran the map

[tranquil sedge]

nop

[mental nymph]

Based

You only hate it since you don't support it with faster attacks

Otherwise it's funny and fun

[cobalt blade]

2h sword leap slam> all others

since atleast some of the character models do a twirl when using it with 2h sword

[sleek barn]

leap slam > shield charge

[mental nymph]

Oh yeah I miss that

[sleek barn]

but leap slam does get stuck in like every tree in jungle valley

[mental nymph]

That's the thing

[tranquil sedge]

lol

[mental nymph]

Don't do jungle valley

[cobalt blade]

better than getting stuck on every pebble

[tranquil sedge]

i saw this when it was listed for 1 mirror
this guy hasn't flipped it succesfully in more than a week

[onyx adder]

Strong

[sleek barn]

jungle valley is nice though

just for altars

[cobalt blade]

would maybe price that at 1.8-2m personally

[onyx adder]

Duelist

I dont think others do?

[cobalt blade]

Mediocre mist mult

[mental nymph]

I personally like fields

[onyx adder]

Anyway witch 2h sword attack animation is 10/10

[cobalt blade]

I thought one of the others did too

[mental nymph]

Very simple for me

[onyx adder]

Best in poe

[cobalt blade]

but i honestly have no idea

[sleek barn]

fields doesn't have boss altars?

[cobalt blade]

pretty sure it does

[mental nymph]

Boss altars it does

Pretty often

[tranquil sedge]

it won't sell

[cobalt blade]

the whole bit with JV is you don't get boss altars

[sleek barn]

oh well then thats besides the point

[mental nymph]

And it often drop that divine card

[tranquil sedge]

listed too high, too late

[mental nymph]

The 2 divs one but yeah

[sleek barn]

oh thats good

in that case i would prefer beach

also drops the fortunate

[cobalt blade]

irrelevant since scry exists

[sleek barn]

i haven't target scried in like 4 leagues

[cobalt blade]

holy

[mental nymph]

Go ask Exodus about the sales he made in just the span of 3 days

[cobalt blade]

I scry multiple times a league depending on what map im farming

lol

[mental nymph]

I scryed one

[sleek barn]

i just don't feel like its that important

[mental nymph]

But I'm leaving for later

I won't go for it until build swap

[sleek barn]

i mean yeah it probably is important but i ain't spending time running maps for a nameless seer

although it is easier this league

[tranquil sedge]

this guy was unlucky/not smart for not using aspect craft instead of min frenzy

this ring is definitely underpriced i think

[cobalt blade]

i see no reason not to tbh when you can still run a strat in the worse map and increase the EV of your farm by a div or 2 (or more with damnation card existing tbh)

[tranquil sedge]

like thats 4 good mods

and one no effect mod

[cobalt blade]

now its rly low odds you drop it but think of damnation card as adding an extra chance you drop a mirror to your map

why would you not go for that

[sleek barn]

yeah i just got put off after doing it during settlers

[cobalt blade]

Fair enough

[sleek barn]

especially when the chase was apothecary in defiled cathedral

i hated that layout

[cobalt blade]

am i weird for liking defiled

[sleek barn]

yes

well no

[cobalt blade]

Nice circular layout you just run

[mental nymph]

Damnation card drop rates abyssmal to consider

[sleek barn]

because i ran haunted mansion 500 times by now

[cobalt blade]

still increases your EV

[mental nymph]

Might as well try the divinations stacked boss scarab for it

For chase

[cobalt blade]

eventually youll drop it

[sleek barn]

WTD i wish for you to alter your nickname

[mental nymph]

Maybe you get a chance then

[mental nymph]

Define eventually

Isn't it rarer than mirror ?

[cobalt blade]

run 1000-2000-3000 whatever maps

[tranquil sedge]

are breach chest mods exclusive on recomb

[onyx adder]

Done

[cobalt blade]

Yes

[royal stump]

is the server down or what ?

[onyx adder]

You were not specific as to how

[sleek barn]

this is fucked up

[mental nymph]

Why

[sleek barn]

i am calling PETA

[tranquil sedge]

next question
if you fracture an exclusive mod, does it still count as exclusive?

[royal stump]

i cant log in :@D

[cobalt blade]

yes

also fractures themself are exclusive no?

fractures are weird

[tranquil sedge]

i can't rmb lol

[cobalt blade]

actually no they arent

[mental nymph]

It do be like that sometimes

[royal stump]

• O srvey hello you

[marsh lance]

i was just doing nightmare map and almost killed te boss, come on man

[mental nymph]

Restart the game maybe ?

[cobalt blade]

otherwise the recomb saving stuff wouldnt work

[candid stag]

How come I haven’t seen gravicius or it that fell on my board. I’m over 100 maps

[tranquil sedge]

hi

[mental nymph]

So you can lose a fractured mod in recomb

[cobalt blade]

fractures are just fucking weird i dont understand how they play into recombs tbh but afaik they still hold the properties of the mod fractured

[royal stump]

😄

[sleek barn]

srvey

holy

survey

[mental nymph]

Maybe change the location thing

Don't go for London

[cobalt blade]

did you kick members off your board

[mental nymph]

Try something else

[sleek barn]

im having an aneurysm

[gleaming drift]

oh, we down now?

[tired isle]

I changed from UK to another EU realm, and it worked

[gleaming drift]

classic London servers

[lean urchin]

stupid sharks chewing the cables again

[tranquil sedge]

how on earth did they make this then @cobalt blade

i assume it dropped with both mods and they won the prefix fracture, so prefixes are just eldritch crafting for a bit

but how do you get dex suffix

[cobalt blade]

its a grasping mail

You get it with both

[tranquil sedge]

no

the flat dex

[cobalt blade]

and dont recomb at all

[tranquil sedge]

how do you get that

and the open suffix

[cobalt blade]

locks

genuinely locks

[tranquil sedge]

oh

fok

[onyx adder]

Its pretty simple, at the point that the process chooses the base it also looks at any fractured mods on either base

Any fractured mod thats not tied to the chosen base gets chucked

[cobalt blade]

can also drop it with both and natural t1 dex open suff

lol

[onyx adder]

And doesnt form part of the recomb math afterwards

[cobalt blade]

lock fracture pre and craft

[tranquil sedge]

oh no im dumb

[cobalt blade]

I see id believe it

[tranquil sedge]

theres another way

but its rng heavy

[mental nymph]

And that's guaranteed ?

[thorn portal]

where do i get absolution gem and at wha level, im level 17 rn

[cobalt blade]

And ye this i knew

[cobalt blade]

?

[onyx adder]

U cannot ever transfer a fractured mod, if thats what ur asking

Not on chosen base = deleted

[onyx adder]

On chosen base = maybe kept depending on recomb math

[tranquil sedge]

annul down to just those 2 breach mods
imprint it as a magic item
now you can get dex
then add a fourth mod and pray u fracture the prefix breach mod

[mental nymph]

So it either stays at chosen base or dies

[tranquil sedge]

or lock fracture at that point

[cobalt blade]

cant make it magic

[tranquil sedge]

yes you can

[cobalt blade]

no you'd have to pre or suff cant be changed scour which requires having one fractured first

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[thorn portal]

nessa doesn't sell it

[cobalt blade]

and then its fractured so no imprint

Actually

[onyx adder]

Yes

[cobalt blade]

I guess tou could split and get really lucky

[sleek barn]

what class are you

[cobalt blade]

Split keeping exactly those 2 mods would make it magic

[onyx adder]

This was one of the changes from original recombs

[tranquil sedge]

true

[thorn portal]

which

[onyx adder]

Which let u build a 6 fractured item

[thorn portal]

witch

[onyx adder]

If u were bored

[full kraken]

okay time to do another day of grinding to fail at finishing my stupid axe's suffixes again

[tranquil sedge]

but at least this method makes it less aids to craft

[sleek barn]

lets move to #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help @thorn portal

[cobalt blade]

It is realistically just locks though

[sleek barn]

are you able to see that channel

[cobalt blade]

after getting the base

[tranquil sedge]

i think my method is the way

locks on the fracture tho yes

[cobalt blade]

how are you imprinting with it fractured though srev

i guess beast locking hm

[tranquil sedge]

you're imprinting the magic item

regal/exalt/annul for dex

then fracture after

[cobalt blade]

You cant imprint fractured and you have to get it to magic with those 2 mods odds are the split doesnt give you that

[tranquil sedge]

naca

its not fractured

when you imprint

imprint magic item with 2 breach mods pref/suff

then get dex
then add 4th mod
then lock fracture

[cobalt blade]

yes my point is getting it to magic is only doable with split

[clear summit]

How do you get your micro transactions again? I remember having to do something but I forget, to get the points to actually show on your account

[tranquil sedge]

sure

that's fair

but the nice thing (a) bases with both mods are cheap

[cobalt blade]

srev im just thinking of a logical way to do it without needing to rely on split rng

Which is imo fracture pre scour to magic with fractured pre beast lock regal until t1 dex

[tranquil sedge]

and also (b)

[cobalt blade]

eldritch pre craft 6% att

[cobalt blade]

i do think id do the beast lock route still

[tranquil sedge]

sec lemme read wat u wrote

how's it scouring down to magic
you lock suffix scour with only that suffix?

[cobalt blade]

yup

[tranquil sedge]

o

this does seem smarter hmm

[cobalt blade]

you get to check foulborn/regular regal too

[sleek barn]

what do you mean? after purchasing points it should appear on your account pretty quickly

time to buy 5 bajillion stash tabs

[full kraken]

oh boy its time for a trip to the bank bois

[sleek barn]

is it easy to get rid of undesired beasts now?

[cobalt blade]

dang deleted the renowned goatman 🥀

[limpid prairie]

Pain peko

[cobalt blade]

its still clicking a fuck ton

[tranquil sedge]

you ctrl click them to itemize them and its free to do that now

so its much easier but still effort

[sleek barn]

after itemize do you still /destroy

[cobalt blade]

i wouldnt say easier since you could already ctrl click delete

no you just let them fall to the floor

[tranquil sedge]

o wat rly

[cobalt blade]

lol

[sleek barn]

o

fair

[cobalt blade]

Yes the X button

it was slower than itemize is tho

[full kraken]

yeh itemize is faster to dump

[strange moon]

Should I just div card gamble all my div i dont think i will be able to do the 100ish hours it would take to grind a mirror

[cobalt blade]

if your finished with the league i dont see why not

If your still having fun i dont see why

[strange moon]

Its a mix i wanted to grind for a mirror as my end goal but at the same time 100 hours is just to much imo

[cobalt blade]

fair

[livid quarry]

farm breach its like 20 hrs

or mirage boxes

[cobalt blade]

low key i think you could drop a raw mirror with 100-150 hours of breach

[wheat sinew]

20h sounds little lol

[dark kite]

blegh i tried breach on my new sparker and honestly was disappointed how easily i died

[strange moon]

Dont have a good enough build/pc(lag for some reason decreases rewards from breach) and mirage boxes were not actually giving me that much profit for some reason

[livid quarry]

i dunno 50d/hr isnt that hard at this point

[cobalt blade]

i corrected some of the pob inflation that one had ticked and its max hit close to halved

[wheat sinew]

ah in that sense, yeah nvm ez day

[cobalt blade]

it had all the lesser shrines clicked lol+fortify at 20 instead of 10 from ag

[livid quarry]

mayb the valdos worth less so not that high d/hr now

[dark kite]

yeah

[full kraken]

I like Bestiary+Incursion+Betrayal+Heist as a very low lag, low pc demand, low investmant way to make a shit tonne of div/hr

also doesnt need a very strong build, you just run scoured T16 maps on your preferred layout

[dark kite]

i like boxes + betrayal myself

[full kraken]

all that matters is your movespeed

[sleek barn]

honestly boxes burnt out for me

i had a dry streak

[full kraken]

boxes are really good too yeh

[strange moon]

Honestly whats worked the best through all my grinding is harvest

[sleek barn]

like 5 maps without a tink

[cobalt blade]

i like boxes excluding the sheer amount of time spent in loadscreens

otherwise valdos

[sleek barn]

true

[cobalt blade]

(because of mirage)

[sleek barn]

i spend 1 min in map and 1 min loading

[strange moon]

Easy to set up high profit margins and really easy with my build

[livid quarry]

harvest is like 30d/hr with the yellow prices

[cobalt blade]

its gotten a bit worse lately

[strange moon]

More like 15

[cobalt blade]

dunno if it went back up tho

[tranquil sedge]

hey naca

[livid quarry]

yeah like ppl who farm harvest dunno what they thinking

[tranquil sedge]

that doesn't work

[cobalt blade]

its not down to 15 for properly ran harvest

[cobalt blade]

wut

why not?

[tranquil sedge]

suff lock scour remains rare

[dark kite]

by "properly ran" you mean map hopping chasing astrolabe mods?

[cobalt blade]

the fuck im p sure ive done that before huh

[tranquil sedge]

i bought that for 25d, annul'd the other suffixes, suff lock scour

its still rare lole

[onyx adder]

U know, just because ur from ireland doesnt mean ur required to play on a potato

[cobalt blade]

my bad then

[tranquil sedge]

nws

[onyx adder]

Ye

Load screens aside i think boxes get a bad rap in general

Most box strats are honestly fine

[strange moon]

Is there any upgrades to the harvest strat you gave me?

[cobalt blade]

i would still have problems with this on NA good computer loads because my problem is with the amount of times i have to load

like specifically looting 3 inventories of stuff from a mirage

[onyx adder]

And ur not hanging out for the one giga drop like for many other strats

[tranquil sedge]

dunno i haven't run it in a week+

[cobalt blade]

load into map>load into mirage>load into map>load into hideout

repeat that for 3 inventories

its fucking awful

[onyx adder]

Yer u need to move to tx to really optimize that

What helped me tho was setting cache size to infinite

[cobalt blade]

ye even in texas it would annoy me i do not like loadscreens

[onyx adder]

Made loading screens 5x shorter

[cobalt blade]

Ye i dont have that issue

lol

[wheat sinew]

hmmmge

[onyx adder]

But im too scared to check my disk space now

[cobalt blade]

i have that globally turned off on linux everything can cache as much as it wanrs

instead its just a mix of eu and bad pc

[strange moon]

Maybe ill just grind it while putting one peice on my phone ill get a mirror by the end of it

[cobalt blade]

ill send how much space poe's using on my pc in a bit

it was like over 200 gigs when i checked earlier due to shader cache

[livid quarry]

u going to farm for a mirror in harvest?

[strange moon]

Idk honestly might just farm harvest and try to get lucky div card dups

Has anyone used that as a farm method?

[full kraken]

b e a s t s

wish I could get a quad tab on faustus lol

I still have another 338 beasts to itemize

[rancid sluice]

you can get lucky running anything. my mirror dropped out of a yellow plot doesnt mean im running harvest nonstop

[livid quarry]

have u tried selling them for 2c

[strange moon]

I didnt mean trying to get a nat mirror lmao I dont think i will ever get that lucky

[rancid sluice]

all it takes is playing the game. more you run the better your odds

[wheat sinew]

brooo they need to expand the menagerie limit

[strange moon]

Ok good to know never farming beast thats just insane

(Do not have the stash space)

[cobalt blade]

when do we get the 32 bit int cap menagerie

surely wont cause problems

[full kraken]

they go for 8c tho

[full kraken]

I mean 1000 is pretty good

[full kraken]

this is after like several days of farming

[cobalt blade]

you can fill the menagerie in a single day tho easily if you dont know what beasts look like

and kill every beast instead of just good ones

and very easily do it in 1 day if your killing yellows

[limpid prairie]

uh? those are a thing?

[cobalt blade]

yuh theres a scarab for it

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Domination_Scarab_of_Apparitions

[limpid prairie]

TIL

[full kraken]

I am doing yellows but killing 500 beasts still takes awhile

[cobalt blade]

my personal favourite one

[full kraken]

avg of 6 per map

so about... 100 maps or so, since I also often miss one

[cobalt blade]

yeah you can do 70-80 maps in a day

[full kraken]

yeah thats true

[tranquil sedge]

you can divine the desiccated belts right

for the int/chaos res?

[limpid prairie]

you mean dyng sun in a shrine? oh yeua

[full kraken]

yeh

[cobalt blade]

lets say it takes you 3 minutes a map to kill every beast if doing say mesa

[tranquil sedge]

thx

[viscid ruin]

are maven searing elder shaper eater canon to the lore?

[opal ingot]

all hits towards you counts as projectile hits

[cobalt blade]

thats what 4-5 hours of mapping?

[full kraken]

yep

[cobalt blade]

yeah very reasonable lmfao

[cobalt blade]

so true

[full kraken]

yellow beast strat is the best source of "free" otw money in my map strat

[gritty garnet]

projectile returns towards screen not your character

[cobalt blade]

projectile shatters your monitor irl

[viscid ruin]

projectiles make my gpu suffer...

[lean urchin]

id think cpu tho

[cobalt blade]

dying sun on crack

[viscid ruin]

yeah

[cobalt blade]

imagine if they added those to shrine belt,,,

[viscid ruin]

would be neat honestly

[cobalt blade]

i think id still go accel but yknow theyd be interesting to run with

[tranquil sedge]

@cobalt blade i dont even know if i want it, but at least i have this base now lol, its going into stash like this for now

[cobalt blade]

huh

[tranquil sedge]

bought it with 5 mods and yolo annuled 2/3 odds the other prefix

[cobalt blade]

thats a fucking cursed one

[tranquil sedge]

it needs to be lock fractured if it needs to be crafted

[viscid ruin]

hollow palm 🤔 dext stacker

[tranquil sedge]

hollow palm

[viscid ruin]

if only hollow palm didn't sucked

[cobalt blade]

ive tried to pob it into a place it looks good its just so bad

[devout shoal]

ok the fuck are these rates

i got so unlucky with bps

80 maps and only 12 currency and 3 experimented

[cobalt blade]

but it would also be so good if they enabled glove slot so ggg should do that

[devout shoal]

i got way too many bad ones

[viscid ruin]

it doesn't help that you can't fit many defense layers cause of lack of gloves and weapon and on top of that evasion being the crappiest defense layer

[cobalt blade]

yeah your also forced into garukhans to get life

to again offset lack of gloves/evasion being your scaled layer lol

[viscid ruin]

why the anti blind and maim?

[cobalt blade]

wut

[viscid ruin]

btw the unique gloves that gives physical and the doryanis electric version are better then hollow palm

[cobalt blade]

oh i meant garukhans flight

[viscid ruin]

ah

[finite quail]

It is time to return to my chaos dot starter

[candid stag]

Best way to craft this? I have influenced Ring

Reforge chaos ? Or attack?

[finite quail]

isnt the exerted attacks mod an essence mod?

oh no its not

its a hunter mod

[candid stag]

It’s hunter pre

[devout shoal]

ok my barya luck is back i got 7 out of 9

[finite quail]

probably recombs

thats too many stats to hit with just reforging

[onyx adder]

Would 1000% more damage make hollow palm good

[finite quail]

it'd take you dozens of thousands of juice

[candid stag]

Can I lose my influence if I recomb

[finite quail]

duh

[finite quail]

if one of them doesnt have an influence yes

they have to be both influenced rings

afaik

[onyx adder]

Its maybe less broken than it sounds since hollow palm doesnt need damage and their trees and gear are usually tight

[finite quail]

lookup the recomb guide, it gets kind of complex

[onyx adder]

So u just get to delete stuff even harder and ur still probably glass

4 extra gem slots almost as good as 1000% more damage ngl

[finite quail]

worst take of all time

[onyx adder]

I love how u think this is a serious conversation lmao

[finite quail]

I wasnt paying attention

[cobalt blade]

not sure id bother with the facebreakers route tbh but more +4 gem sockets and access to reasonable phys convert+implicits etc

theres also a route you go shapers touch for inc damage scaling

[finite quail]

omfg my mousepad has bumps on the surface and they are driving me INSANE

[sleek barn]

they gotta add some new skill useable unarmed

current lineup is a bit stale

[finite quail]

Agreed

[worn cave]

its just not opening

[sleek barn]

yo actually what about like hollow palm but for spells

[finite quail]

new unarmed ranged melee attack

unarmed spectral throw where you just throw spectral copies of your fucking fists

[sleek barn]

boneshatter but like you spit your bones at your enemies

[finite quail]

spotted the overwatch player

[worn cave]

lol

i need something to take me away from that god awful game

[onyx adder]

Man 1000% more damage not good enough

[worn cave]

reinstalled poe1 and now its not working

[finite quail]

verify integrity of game files

[onyx adder]

Those two guys playing hollow palm actually crying rn

[finite quail]

also restart ur pc then try again

[cobalt blade]

its actually more

because youd run runegraft of the bound

but i just dont know if its better htan converting with gloves

[onyx adder]

At least 3 times this past couple weeks ive had a conversation that goes hey ppl should use runegraft x

And i go

Wtf is runegraft x

And it randomly fits exactly what is needed

[cobalt blade]

20% increased glove effect is rune graft of the bound

and 20% reduced boot

[spice pecan]

what floor 1 crystal chalice does to a mf, actually spooned

[onyx adder]

Ye i know

[cobalt blade]

ah okay

[onyx adder]

I looked it up

I had no idea

What even is that lmao

[cobalt blade]

but ye people underestimate runegrafts its worth looking at all of em

[onyx adder]

20% reduced boot

U can always tell ppl that just look it up

[limpid prairie]

can maven watch nightmare maps? no right?

[onyx adder]

Without knowing

Because they all go like WOW IM PLAYING SST

Because ggg drop disabled the broken offhand runegraft but its still in all the databases

[cobalt blade]

wait people using sst without knowing about the 10% more attack speed

oh the other one that doesnt drop lol

[onyx adder]

Naw theres one in the drop tables that inverts res of offhand attacks

[cobalt blade]

yeye

[cobalt blade]

no theres just the t17 mod for maven inteferes with area

which gives a maven that has no CD on her abilities so she just spams BE HEALED AND FIGHT ON

[sleek barn]

I'm using that runegraft with nightgrip

pretty nice

extra 2% of Ward as chaos damage

[finite quail]

Noice

Dont forget to volatile the gloves too

You can do that with em, right?

[sleek barn]

yah

[finite quail]

Nice

[sleek barn]

so it's total 14%

[autumn dawn]

anyone got a fun build i can try out?

[finite quail]

yeah

earthshatter with fissure support and void shockwave support

juggernaut

endurance charge stacking

normally earthshatter spikes can be exploded with other slams or warcries, but fissure support pops em by just attacking

[devout shoal]

ok i just made 21d buying ilvl 84 29 qual bases and recombing them up to 86+

took me like 2 minutes

theres a lot of 28q ones 4d each and ilvl 86 are 10d each

time to buy them and earn 1d per click on avg

[onyx adder]

Werent u in ssf 5 minutes ago

[remote lark]

is anyone else chain dc'ing

[devout shoal]

no i returned to trade like 2 days ago

speaking of ssf i need to transfer all the good contracts

ill keep the beasts on ssf tho

[finite quail]

change servers

[remote lark]

it's every server

as if they're getting ddos'd

[finite quail]

then its your internet

and yes poes servers have gotten ddosed a lot this league

[finite quail]

noice

[craggy fiber]

new build time?

[finite quail]

perchance

[devout shoal]

how much did it take to craft

surely less than 640d

[tranquil sedge]

look at it again

[craggy fiber]

50dn reflecting idk how much i bought the amulet

[tranquil sedge]

carefully

im more surprised this was only 700d?

[devout shoal]

ik its misted

[finite quail]

lmfao

+4 -4

[cobalt blade]

its -4 phys though

700 makes sense

[tranquil sedge]

oh

ffs

[craggy fiber]

yeah next to me is 800d

[finite quail]

look carefully

indeed

[devout shoal]

why did this drop in my map

[tranquil sedge]

bro

[cobalt blade]

[tranquil sedge]

not like this lmao

[finite quail]

cause it wanted to

[craggy fiber]

+4 cri one negative

[candid stag]

How do I search for hunter maps on trade site

[tranquil sedge]

telling someone something confidently and getting it thrown back in your face is the worst feeling

[craggy fiber]

triple positive is 10mirror

[tranquil sedge]

[candid stag]

Selected hunter influence nothkng and no option for area has hunted

[cobalt blade]

~imp citadel

[tranquil sedge]

do you mean the conqueror maps

^

[cobalt blade]

set it to al hez

[candid stag]

Ok

[cobalt blade]

but also you can bless orb between them

[devout shoal]

should i buy like a 27q one?

[finite quail]

[tranquil sedge]

don't settle for less than 34 quality

ideally 37+

[devout shoal]

wait what theyre so cheap

[finite quail]

search "citadel"

[tranquil sedge]

bis is 42 quality ofc

[finite quail]

click the implicit

[cobalt blade]

ilvl matters

[tranquil sedge]

-# /s

[devout shoal]

30 is expensive

but 29 is 45x cheaper

[tranquil sedge]

dats wat minmaxing does for you

[cobalt blade]

you need i85 for t1 effect t1 pen etc

[devout shoal]

fuck i bought i84

[cobalt blade]

it might be fine for dot

i actually dont know the ilvl for dot multi

[opaque sphinx]

ur a dot multi

[finite quail]

5 socket vs 2 fusings

[devout shoal]

nvm theyre expensive

[cobalt blade]

nou

[finite quail]

will I get that juicy pussy 5 link?

[cobalt blade]

eh dot multi seems to be fine at 84

but ye pen needs 85

[opaque sphinx]

dot multi is a compliment smh

[devout shoal]

ok im good

[opaque sphinx]

its super rare and usually BiS

[cobalt blade]

dot builds bad tho 🥀

[opaque sphinx]

hey sometimes thay can be- yeah its sad

i thought DoT was the shit till i learned how to make builds with over dot cap dps

now they just feel very limitting past leaguestart

[autumn dawn]

what would you rate it

1-10

[cobalt blade]

i wouldnt honestly call dot cap the issue

its more the lack of scalers

hit based just has more scalers

like most skills dont actually reach uber dot cap

but it is funny to meme on dot cap being the issue with dot skills

[bleak quiver]

nothing worse than making a build, thinking "damn this looks good", then you notice IC and vaal auras where on...

[cobalt blade]

i just dont add those to my test pobs for figuring out builds

[full fossil]

@short prairie smelly

[onyx adder]

I used to do this

I stopped when all my pobs needed 30 gem slots to function because im a genius

[short prairie]

[short prairie]

defamatory

[onyx adder]

Now i add em but turn em off

Same with flasks that have dodgy uptime

[full fossil]

nu uh

[onyx adder]

And tinctures if dodgy uptime

[cobalt blade]

see i just dont add things i cant be fucked to use so end up with like 8 empty gem sockets intead

[finite quail]

why would I have to rate it

its fun

[cobalt blade]

and start just tossing enhances and empowers at shit once i hav e it setup in game

[finite quail]

thats all that matters

[onyx adder]

None of my builds ever have spare gem slots

I cant even use this ssf helical i crafted because im using unsets

Lmfao

I need professional help

[cobalt blade]

i have 2 enlightens 2 eclipses 1 enhance and an unneded efficacy/cwdt in my fross

and both those eclipses can be removed for like 1 point on the tree

[onyx adder]

Must be nice

I even stopped playing elementalist because gem slots made me rage

[cobalt blade]

golems bad

[craggy fiber]

my current build

[onyx adder]

Double hungry loop damn

My man extra hungry

[cobalt blade]

not even triple hungry loop

🥀

[craggy fiber]

5 support hungry loop is gg

im surprisd no one make video with it

[craggy fiber]

minion build no shrine belt

[cobalt blade]

not with that attitude

you can reasonably res shrine belt for defence

[spice pecan]

regular AW 👀

[craggy fiber]

armor is ranged aw

[autumn dawn]

fair

[craggy fiber]

when all up 44aw

+16 vaal aw

[tranquil sedge]

i offer professional help

[dry tree]

You look like an amateur to me.

[tranquil sedge]

i offer: 1 divine
i get: your rings
you get: no ring pressure, because you have no rings left

[tranquil sedge]

green names are all professionals

[dry tree]

Common misconception, we collectively know nothing beyond the difference between more and increased

[spice pecan]

the best part about srev being a green name is when he pops off on someone

[tranquil sedge]

it just means the mods watch more closely sadge

[dry tree]

Just pay the mods to look the other way

[tranquil sedge]

kk if anyone asks ill tell em andy told me to do it

[onyx adder]

I dont trust ur professional help

But u do have a green name

This is highly compelling

[tranquil sedge]

role abuse poggers

[dry tree]

db also has a green name and he definitely can't be trusted

Riddle me that

[tranquil sedge]

dark green name

its different to our light green names

[ebon tendon]

Chat war

[karmic gust]

i have all the colors

[tranquil sedge]

you also got a transforming cat

cat mode

[devout shoal]

ok i might be special

[tranquil sedge]

machine gun mode

[devout shoal]

i spent 30 minutes crafting a tincture and it was the wrong one

[karmic gust]

and neither shows right on discord rip

[dry tree]

Time to write a script that generates discord profile compatible ascii art

[hard cliff]

Lovely cat

🙀

[limpid tapir]

Out of curiosity with the way the market search is how do you find the right notables on the cluster jewels?

[craggy fiber]

oh 1 more thing to add for minion player. you must try that AG setup i linked in the top and give the AG an explosive cane of kulemak

[hard cliff]

The stray cat that begs me for food is back 😩

I can't feed you I'm sorry

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/cou-u-repet-tat-cat-staring-cat-what-what-cat-gif-15888427591844445690

[tranquil sedge]

specify the notables you want make sure they're in the right spot on trade itself

[thick goblet]

sometimes i feel like the only person who knows what's going on is yohsene
they can somehow answer every mechanic/ interaction question

[craggy fiber]

it makes the minion gameplay like bv explode

[finite quail]

you search the notables

[dry tree]

Just type in the notable names you want

[craggy fiber]

really great clear

[limpid prairie]

I mean how do you know its not an IA trained with PoEs wiki data

[finite quail]

because even the wiki sometimes gets stuff wrong

rarely, but it happens

[tranquil sedge]

because there isnt a single ai useful for poe yet

[craggy fiber]

give the ag a bunch of aoe

then got gg clear

[limpid tapir]

Nothing comes up but thanks anyways I guess

[craggy fiber]

you just summon your minion and run around stuff explode

[tranquil sedge]

show ur search link

[limpid tapir]

I'm on Xbox

[tranquil sedge]

light blue lines are enchants, the stuff at the top

everything else is just an explicit mod

[thick goblet]

because they're correcting the wiki half the time 🙈

[craggy fiber]

blue?

that looks like pink for me

[tranquil sedge]

on the item, it is light blue

[craggy fiber]

ooo

[regal iris]

anyone else getting constantly disconnected right now?

[limpid tapir]

Thanks anyways but it won't let me find any of those on the Xbox, either that or I'm not smart enough to figure it out which is probably the case honestly

[dry tree]

I mean you can just use the exact same search regardless of platform

[limpid tapir]

Probably but obviously I can't for whatever reason without using the website

[short prairie]

holy leveling build

[real spoke]

diamond flask no crit ch tho? why 🥀

[cold sable]

starting to think

putting 5 diviner orbs on my maps

was not a net profit

[short prairie]

oops forgor to unspec PT

there you go

[wheat sinew]

pepepain (+3 swords, 2 poofed) (some got nom nomed but it is what it is)

[sleek barn]

i like your stash tab organization

makes me feel warm inside

[finite quail]

wtf I 5linked it in 5 fusings

talk about dumb luck

from 6729 to 8815 chaos dot

lets goooo

[rancid sluice]

aye accel belt first decent one from that no headed bastard

[onyx adder]

Gz

I just wanna say that despite his loot is always troll and despite the boss fight is pointless dogshit, Saresh design is the funniest shit ever

[rancid sluice]

yeah im not quite sure how he got tuned so low

[spice pecan]

i'm genuinely shocked they didn't add like any mechanics to that fight

he has a slam and the aoe thing at 50%... and that's literally it

but i agree he's hilarious

[finite quail]

honestly for the design effort they put into him, I'm shocked at how simple he is in combat

I remember in the q&a if we were gonna get uber versions of saresh and ggg said no

now we can see why

[silent leaf]

I pray transfusion support becomes a common drop next league

[rancid sluice]

eh probably just rushed out

[finite quail]

probably

[strange moon]

hey i keep getting disconnected from the server is it just me?

[rancid sluice]

try a different one no issues here

[finite quail]

change servers

[subtle forge]

yeah, getting random lag spikes here, too

[limpid prairie]

lagging like crazy so i started a different game

[subtle forge]

~50ms usually, then it randomly rockets up to 10k ms for a few seconds

[finite quail]

no lag here

[sleek barn]

thats a lot of stacks

oh

blade blast stacks are still set to 900 by default

[short prairie]

Not 100% chance

[finite quail]

what skill is that lol

[short prairie]

Smh

[sleek barn]

sadge

[sleek barn]

blast blast

pob defaults are bad

[hollow gull]

Was playing and my console did heavy image tearing and went black and won’t turn on now

[finite quail]

indeed

[finite quail]

okay

rip

[short prairie]

950 stacks

An act 8 build has 400k dps

Wdf

[finite quail]

welcome to modern age poe

[short prairie]

Kinetic fusillade is good

[finite quail]

ffs

that needed to be +1 chaos

[short prairie]

+1 lambie

[vocal tinsel]

simulacrum doesnt get affected by like delirium atlas nodes does it?

[sleek barn]

no

[vocal tinsel]

thats what I though ty

[drowsy eagle]

[short prairie]

Nice

[subtle forge]

?

[finite quail]

almost 30k dot on my soulrend

melting through stuff like butter

[cold sable]

so is 5x diviners deli orb only profitable on 'area contains a mirage which covers the whole map" maps?

[tranquil umbra]

damn we getting atziri bathwater hideout decoration

[cold sable]

ig itsd slightly profitable on normal maps nvm

stacked decks are 4c rn so its barely profitable i think

i got 120 per map with 5 orbs for about 70c each

i guess its fine..

[vocal tinsel]

what scarab setup are you running with it?

[cold sable]

risk cascade bloodlines 2x instability

[vocal tinsel]

breach?

[cold sable]

ye

[vocal tinsel]

you taking deli nodes on atlas too i assume

[cold sable]

not rly

no deli nodes

am i supposed to have some

[vocal tinsel]

some might be nice for generating more rewards

like the deli node at top of tree has % reward gain

+1 reward on map completion aswell

[short prairie]

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/ilX0Yya.png

does this node do anything with deli orb

ig it doesnt say increased rewards

[short prairie]

Read it

[cold sable]

the difficulty is just the downside of having infinite mist which alr have

[limpid prairie]

what about scarabs? will the boss deli scarab work

[short prairie]

Read it

[limpid prairie]

Its too bad to be smooth brain

[onyx adder]

Words to live by

[short prairie]

[drowsy eagle]

I got new gears in every slot and forgot about chaos res again, classic

[short prairie]

I feel like illiteracy rate of the world is going down day by day.

With the introduction of AI, this will be even worse

[craggy fiber]

literacy rate of the world is going down day by day.

seems like a you problem

your statement is wrong there

[vocal tinsel]

i mean you kinda have to be able to read to use ai, not gunna affect literacy that much. critical thinking skills on the other hand..

[limpid prairie]

says the iliterate

XD

whats that you wrote

https://tenor.com/view/eevee-adorable-kawaii-sleepy-yawn-gif-5558115

[undone canyon]

Any suggestions on having my Animate Guardian stop getting nuked in juiced delirum with minimal investment? I have Garb of the Ephemeral Savant's Robe and Glimpse of Chaos
Vaal Mask with Windscream
Reinforced Greaves + Asenath's Gentle Touch Silk Gloves. I've tried picking up with Minion Defense masteries with variations of all thoe +/- the minion regen. I am also trying to use this flask but it will still get randomly oneshot. If anyone has any suggestions for gloves + boots and/or anything else

i know im asking for a lot and animate guardian is just insane and want him alive all the time. I am using Animate Guardian and Raise Spectre. Spectres aren't dying

[craggy fiber]

you are non minion player right

[undone canyon]

ye unfortunately forgot to mention

[craggy fiber]

need to have him max resist at least and some chaos res

so you yourself maybe use purity of element so the minion also got them

[undone canyon]

like this? do I need to cap elemental and chaos?

[onyx adder]

How open are u to dropping one AG item to not die

[craggy fiber]

and then use resist rare gear on on of them

preferably cap

[undone canyon]

wait bro

[craggy fiber]

elemental army imbue also give resist iirc

[short prairie]

Correct it

[craggy fiber]

there is also the case of using regen armor instead

[onyx adder]

Like if u want to drop helmet

[undone canyon]

you can just give animate guardians rare gear and it uses the stats?

[onyx adder]

U can click the node u highlighted