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[cobalt blade]

waow hello kitty guitar

[sleek barn]

sans what is this

[frigid wedge]

good question

[short prairie]

What am I watching

[mental nymph]

Just uh ,lack of motivation for now

[cobalt blade]

fair

[short prairie]

Ban that s

[mental nymph]

Lemme guess :you want the guitar for yourself ?

[frigid wedge]

no he just doesnt look right with it

[mental nymph]

Eh

[short prairie]

No s

[frigid wedge]

fuck you mean featuring hatsune miku

[short prairie]

Looks like Sekiro

[frigid wedge]

its metal gear rising

[short prairie]

The thumbnail…

[frigid wedge]

i guess?

its just any samurai themed shit tho

[dense rock]

sekiro tutorial/last boss arena with rivers of blood from elden ring and soul of cinder from DS3

[frigid wedge]

oh fuck it goes hard

no

nvm she definitely just said i have penis

i cant take that seriously anymore

that was so random

i need to listen to the mgr soundtrack

shit goes so ahrd

[short prairie]

I’m no longer that dumb teenage ass rebel and no longer like rocks and metals, now at my age I need ballads to heal.

[frigid wedge]

what if both

what if

[dense rock]

EDM remixes of classical music do go hard tho

[frigid wedge]

what if both

[dense rock]

nothing like sitting on the porch, sipping hot coffee while waiting for the mozard beat drop to hit

[short prairie]

No, I like vocals.

[dense rock]

the string instruments sing for your soul

[frigid wedge]

marcin is good for that shit

[short prairie]

Mariah Carey type of vocals

[devout shoal]

who wants a free uber shaper carry

[frigid wedge]

mf would rather listen to all i want for crimas than rock vocals

i wish i spelled it like that unironically but i forgot how to spell that holiday and i gave up

[short prairie]

No rock, ballads

I don’t think Mariah Carey has rocks

[normal hedge]

but she has all i want for xmass is you

[short prairie]

Pop ballads r&b

[short prairie]

Way too overplayed during charismas

Literally in every shopping mall

[frigid wedge]

i genuinely have no fuckin clue what rnb is

is it just red and blue

xD

[normal hedge]

its almost xmass time

[short prairie]

R&b is the best genre

[frigid wedge]

what the fuck am i even watching anymore

[normal hedge]

is that you

[cobalt blade]

horror

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[dense rock]

rum n bass?

[short prairie]

Rhythm and blues

[frigid wedge]

were u asking if im luna bloom

im not

[dense rock]

lame n gay

[frigid wedge]

im very much blonde

[normal hedge]

i see

[cobalt blade]

me

[short prairie]

Femboy

Or tomboy?

[dense rock]

why not both?

[frigid wedge]

interesting

[normal hedge]

why tomboy instead of mascgirl

[frigid wedge]

naca werent u tryna be butch

[cobalt blade]

i always forget hyporboreas exists till seeing its art

[cobalt blade]

wuh

no?

[frigid wedge]

who the fuck was it

who the FUCK do i remember saying they were tryna be

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dense rock]

being a butch is like poofing with a vaal orb

[frigid wedge]

what

[dense rock]

did i stutter?

[cobalt blade]

Apparently mika

[frigid wedge]

AHH

right

[frigid wedge]

but

big

strong woman

nice to me

[dense rock]

yeyeye death by snusnu and all that

[normal hedge]

do people even play gc lacerate of butchering without banners

[frigid wedge]

not really

[dense rock]

still the worst possible roll out of all the possibilities 😄

[normal hedge]

booo

[cobalt blade]

reaal

[short prairie]

Who?

[normal hedge]

woa

[cobalt blade]

honestly do people even play lacerate

[normal hedge]

yes 1% of them

[frigid wedge]

why tho

[dense rock]

The real deal is that delicate looking pristine princess looking lady with mentality/behavior of a butch

[cobalt blade]

holy surprisingly high

[frigid wedge]

soo

you just like a dere

[dense rock]

no idea what that is

[normal hedge]

theres 89 people playing gc butchering without banners

oh i forgot to block all of them

80

[frigid wedge]

are you familiar with rin tohsaka

[dense rock]

no

[frigid wedge]

dw

[mental nymph]

Dere

Tsundere ?

[dense rock]

sounds like something out of anime

[frigid wedge]

it is yes

[lean urchin]

2d slop

[frigid wedge]

im coming to realise that regardless i categorised the personality traits wrong

[stuck phoenix]

Take that back

[mental nymph]

Any anime you watched and remember

[stuck phoenix]

That said, something something try to stay on topic

[dense rock]

i only watch isekai slop

[sleek barn]

guys its time to make a path of exile anime

[mental nymph]

Sure give a name

Lets see if I can find an example there

[frigid wedge]

although i feel like butch as a type of person doesnt rlly have an associated personality other than stoic ig

[dense rock]

overlord

inb4 albedo

[frigid wedge]

that time i was reincarnated as an X

half the isekai genre named

:D

[mental nymph]

I would say narberal

But idk

[lean urchin]

praying someone reincarnates as me, so i can take a break

[cobalt blade]

Can kinda take confident/dominant as an associated personality but yeah it is more how you present yourself/your identity than a personality

[sleek barn]

but then you won't have a conscious

[lean urchin]

DID I STUTTER?

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[sleek barn]

painge

[frigid wedge]

i think thats just me tho

[frigid wedge]

you guys have those?

[modest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[mental nymph]

It goes back and forth

[frigid wedge]

am i missing out on anything

[mental nymph]

Aside from me eating pizza ?nope

[frigid wedge]

what

[sleek barn]

head empty

no thoughts

[heady cliff]

pray that boyar-anime slop would not spread beyond russian authors

[cobalt blade]

wtf is that

[mental nymph]

The heck is boyar anime slop kek

[cobalt blade]

head empty only gay thoughts

[lean urchin]

So u say gays have no thoughts?

[heady cliff]

hereditary magic families ruling the world in mostly modern settings

non-magical plebs are cannon fodder

[frigid wedge]

enough gay thoughts, its time for gay actions

[mental nymph]

That's not just isekai

[sleek barn]

plot of jjk

[cobalt blade]

so true

[mental nymph]

And at least it's better than "oh this advanced system is making me overpowered" plots

[heady cliff]

you would think so

but somehow...

[mental nymph]

Families system usually is accompanied by world building ,which is a good sign alot of the time

[frigid wedge]

cough bofuri cough

[cobalt blade]

tbf bofuri plays into it

and is cute as hell

[mental nymph]

Yea that one was a nope from me on sight

[frigid wedge]

i like the REASON she caps defence

[mental nymph]

I mean

She's disgustingly overpowered

[frigid wedge]

no no

i get that

i think its silly

i think the original reason she chose to max out the stat is cute

"BOFURI: I Don't Want to Get Hurt, so I'll Max Out My Defense."

[heady cliff]

they are also frequently accompanied by someone who never touched politics (even if that was a large corp office politics) trying to describe them

amount of facepalms/minute is sky high

[mental nymph]

It's more like

[devout shoal]

ok who wants random failed fractures with like 27-29 qual

[mental nymph]

Trying the center the whole world building around said chara

[frigid wedge]

just 5 to 1 them?

[cobalt blade]

not recomb saving them?

[devout shoal]

wait what

[cobalt blade]

idt 5:1 keeps qual

[frigid wedge]

5 to 1, triple split, go again

[cobalt blade]

but you can just recomb save them

50/50 to delete base recomb with matching the mod fractured

random i86+ chests to keep ilvl

[devout shoal]

so that will keep 29 qual? all of these are 29

[cobalt blade]

im fairly sure 5:1 doesnt keep qual would test it with smth cheaper

[devout shoal]

ok ill do recomb

btw i double split them when i was doing these crafts cause i didnt know about triple splits at the time

[limpid prairie]

fractured huge

[devout shoal]

nice

[frigid wedge]

is this just ur thing now

[devout shoal]

ok so just recomb with any base?

[cobalt blade]

My personal favourite is fractured increased cost to enter

[cobalt blade]

yeah just make sure your not downgrading ilvl

[devout shoal]

fractured bps can drop randomly

from mobs

[cobalt blade]

(average +2 capped at highest level you put in)

[devout shoal]

but ive only seen a frac contract drop

[frigid wedge]

the lasoo tooled screenshits

[cobalt blade]

so 83+86 average 84 +2 86 back

[devout shoal]

oh

[devout shoal]

does it have to be an int base tho or whatever?

[cobalt blade]

Nop

would just make sure your matching the fractured mod to try delete it

what you even fracturing anyway btw

[frigid wedge]

i wish i could use a twilight

the pdr from saintly is too important tho

ruins my colour thememe

[bleak kelp]

Is there any low investment tech for additional reduced fire damage for pof conversion?

[frigid wedge]

arctic armour

or did u mean extra ways to convert for pof

[bleak kelp]

Other than that

[frigid wedge]

u can use tempered by war, watchers, dawnbreaker and leave last 10% unconverted iirc

or do u just want dr

[short prairie]

Foulborn xophs heart/blood

[bleak kelp]

I'm trying to squeeze out just a bit more ele damage reduction

[frigid wedge]

oh

endurance charges

max res

[cobalt blade]

if your wearing a unique chest 6% reduced fire dmg taken corrupt

[karmic gust]

boot essence

[cobalt blade]

yeah boot essence for stationary dr

[bleak kelp]

My chest is volatiled unfortunately

[untold umbra]

yo

how do i see in pob what items have abyssal jewels

or where they are

[cobalt blade]

items section

[short prairie]

Stationary dr

[karmic gust]

well the item says so unless you are looking at pob with bugged abyss items

[short prairie]

I don’t really like conditional dr

[untold umbra]

oh wait my eyes somehow did not read that theres two

[karmic gust]

well they are already using AA

[short prairie]

Inconsistent

[untold umbra]

ok nevermind problem solved

[cobalt blade]

anytime your attacking your stationary

[untold umbra]

i was wondering where the second one is

[devout shoal]

ok i saved 3 out of 6 29 quals

[karmic gust]

also stationary dr is very consistent if you are strike build orr some shit

[bleak kelp]

Stationary is pretty much the only time I'm getting hit

[devout shoal]

and raised ilvl of 1

from 84 to above 86

[bleak kelp]

I am eb spark

[cobalt blade]

if your a valdo runner stationary dr is your best friend lol

[bleak kelp]

I am trying to tank the Uber brain blast more consistently

[short prairie]

I’m flicker so it’s super consistent for me

Ikr about others

[frigid wedge]

vaal arctic armour

[cobalt blade]

Position with move skills and stand still as much as possible

[frigid wedge]

:D

[cobalt blade]

do you have armour

[bleak kelp]

I want to tank all 3 brain blasts

[short prairie]

Cuz I’m considered stationary even when I’m flicking

[frigid wedge]

u using sigil of power

[cobalt blade]

could weapon swap to a transcendance shield+monastery bell hit hydrosphere to enable that dr

[bleak kelp]

Sigil of power could work

[frigid wedge]

actually is sigil less taken or mobs deal less

[karmic gust]

sigil of power would do nothing

[short prairie]

one of the only forms of gear swap that’s actually useful

[frigid wedge]

cant remmeber

[karmic gust]

its on enemies

[frigid wedge]

yeah ok

[short prairie]

Frost shield

Guard skill

[bleak kelp]

Sigil doesn't work on the brain nucleus?

[frigid wedge]

was gonna suggest it but idk how the fuck frost shield actually goes if ur es based

[bleak kelp]

I guess I can use a guard skill

[short prairie]

Just outheal the degen

[bleak kelp]

But rather just stand there

Otherwise I can just move to the safe spot

[cobalt blade]

ye the brain isnt on the sigil well its doing brain blast

[bleak kelp]

Maybe getting more life/es is the only way but I think I'm almost capped already

[frigid wedge]

u could yk

[cobalt blade]

it works the same as a guardskill if you have recovery

[frigid wedge]

turn off eblade

unless fb ghostwrithe

[devout shoal]

ok why isnt my one on the site

[cobalt blade]

rezone

[short prairie]

You should tank the maven blast instead

Memory game

[bleak kelp]

Yeah I can put life on my weapon lol

[cobalt blade]

memory game is easier to tank

[devout shoal]

oh i know its cause its ilvl 84

[bleak kelp]

And then it off

Memory game only does half my ehp

Brain blast one shots me 75% of the time

[astral brook]

Omg i need to stop this

[frigid wedge]

i feel like just, turning off energy blade for it should be fine considering ur es doubles

[astral brook]

Gambled 10d on cards made 40d profit after gamba

[bleak kelp]

I'm fb ghostwrithe

[frigid wedge]

right

ew

[devout shoal]

do i gamble on raising their ilvl?

[astral brook]

Did it again got a doctors and some other tinks

Gambled to 7

Then spammed til poof

[cobalt blade]

you didnt raise first??

[lean urchin]

frostbolt ghostwrite

[astral brook]

Poofed everything else

[cobalt blade]

or during the recomb part i mentioned lol

[astral brook]

Total profit

-25d

Fml

[devout shoal]

theyre a month old

[cobalt blade]

ahh

still

[devout shoal]

i didnt know at the time

[karmic gust]

is gambling doctors even positive money with hh prices and yellow juice prices xd

[cobalt blade]

no

[devout shoal]

its not

[astral brook]

Well its 47d

[limpid prairie]

Well maybe
double implicit HH?

[cobalt blade]

not sure you make profit even if you always go 4>8

[astral brook]

And 6k juice per d but i spent like 30k juice

[short prairie]

also are they generating fortification charges?

[astral brook]

So prob not

[bleak kelp]

I don't think div card doubling is ever positive ev

[frigid wedge]

like dis?

[cobalt blade]

it is

[devout shoal]

ok 1 survived

profit

[bleak kelp]

I get 10 fortification from my ag

[short prairie]

Only 10

[bleak kelp]

And 3 endurance from spectre

[astral brook]

I made 40d off it just now

But lost again

The fucking greed

[short prairie]

Max 20 fort charges, 10 less damage taken

[frigid wedge]

if u lost u didnt profit

[cobalt blade]

you could weapon swap to a bigger life shield than rathpith maybe

and bigger life weapon

[frigid wedge]

O.0

[astral brook]

I did at first then blew it all

[bleak kelp]

Yeah but I can't really get more than 10 unless there's some ag tech for extra reduced damage taken

[astral brook]

pretty sure i blew a mirror shard too

[last mesa]

does act 10 feel the quickest because it's actually fast or because every area is connected to a big room?(oriath square)

[cobalt blade]

its fast

[astral brook]

Had 13 cards decided to split into 3s and gamba to double

[cobalt blade]

and your character has move speed and damage

by a 10

[astral brook]

Turned to 0 lol

[frigid wedge]

holy yap

[rancid sluice]

theres like what only three required quests

[cobalt blade]

vitellas vengance kill kitava the lab trial and grabbing the staff?

[astral brook]

Allat for a replenish belt

[cobalt blade]

mightve forgotten something idk i brain off during acts

[rancid sluice]

yeah pretty much

[astral brook]

Kitavas torments

[cobalt blade]

thats act 5

[astral brook]

Oh

[rancid sluice]

ones for just like a belt or something maybe armour hard skip

[last mesa]

i hate act 8 for some reason

[cobalt blade]

ima be real i dont do it till after a10 but it is a5 lol

[frigid wedge]

brutal

[astral brook]

Worse

[heady cliff]

shaper 2.0

[astral brook]

I got 37d left il blow it all into decks again if i dont hit well thats my queue to go to standard again

House of mirrors PLEASE

[karmic gust]

lol

[last mesa]

sunk cost fallacy

[limpid prairie]

Of big size
or huge
yours?

[frigid wedge]

hm?

[astral brook]

Wait

Is that card that gives 13 mirror shards worth alot

Smth like that

[frigid wedge]

its 19

and yes

[cobalt blade]

19 mirror shards unrequited love

[astral brook]

Thats the same as a mirror lol nice

[frigid wedge]

yes

[devout shoal]

bro what

[frigid wedge]

bc the card gambling increases value

[cobalt blade]

the card sets worth more than a mirror

lol

[devout shoal]

ive been buying ilvl 100 baes 4c each

[full fossil]

what are the odds i can get 70% xp at lvl99 in 2 hours { i wanna go back to sleep} doing breach beyond

[devout shoal]

and i couldve got 100 for 1c

[astral brook]

So il get 1 and gamba

[devout shoal]

oh it was just 1 offer

its 25:1 now

[short prairie]

After this league idk if saresh will survive

[full fossil]

stonks

[full fossil]

unlikely

[cobalt blade]

i hope he does and they buff him

[short prairie]

[cobalt blade]

everything now does as much phys damage as his slam good luck

[short prairie]

Golem survives

[cobalt blade]

its like 80-100k phys lol

[sleek barn]

cue sorry

[normal hedge]

minion good

[frigid wedge]

11 of themn died

[bleak kelp]

There's a lot of positive ev gambles idk why most people do div cards

Prob because it's fast

[cobalt blade]

because its fun

[short prairie]

Even if saresh survives they gonna nerf belt drop rate and nerf the consistency of baryas

[bleak kelp]

Div doubling is negative ev

[cobalt blade]

its fun to do gambling that has higher highs and lower lows

[astral brook]

+1 immortal

[cobalt blade]

you could make 100 mirrors or you could lose everything

[astral brook]

[bleak kelp]

A few leagues ago corrupting awakened enlighten was average +100d on a set of 4 that you did

[frigid wedge]

i feel like the HoT effect ruins this

[sleek barn]

keeping goin raaaah

[limpid prairie]

Scour chance orb to get influenced uniques or maybe try tainted mythics orbs

[sleek barn]

me with tempest shield

[frigid wedge]

ITS SO UGLY

[astral brook]

Sephirot and fortunates dropping like candy

[bleak kelp]

I made like 80% of my currency doing positive ev gambles

[karmic gust]

same reason why people went to sand casino in osrs :d

[bleak kelp]

Like recombing chests

Was at least 100-120d per hour when league was active

[cobalt blade]

same i also think its fun to delete currency with div gambles lol

[devout shoal]

ok im out of gold

[bleak kelp]

Get lucky = 400d an hour

Or lose 100d when unlucky

[astral brook]

Recomb is the worst part of this game

[bleak kelp]

But I did like batches of 500

[cobalt blade]

one argument id make is small cluster crafting is worse

and abyss jewel crafting

[bleak kelp]

The more i did the more money i made

[short prairie]

Not if you’re seraphim themed or lightning themed

[astral brook]

Cluster crafting is ok

[cobalt blade]

not smalls

youd only say that if youve crafted larges/mediums

smalls are awful

[limpid prairie]

If you need to gamble 5 times its not worth it though

[astral brook]

Recomb is terrible i messed up 18 recombs on a bow thats supposed to take 2

[astral brook]

Ive crafted all 3

[bleak kelp]

Yea harvest is just fast

But it's net negative so the more you do the more you lose

Net negative bc juice

[cobalt blade]

have you done perfect smalls though

[astral brook]

Unless you want specific mods beside the notables its easy to craft small clusters

[cobalt blade]

well yes obviously

[astral brook]

No thanks

[cobalt blade]

that is the strong part of smalls

[astral brook]

Perfect larges only

[visual valve]

jeez that claw, how is it even possible to make that
I managed to get 3 shaper affixes via recombi and it still was pain in rear

are you telling me you just recomb until you get lucky ?

[astral brook]

Wich were miserable

[cobalt blade]

perfect larges are like not hard imo but i also profit crafted them for multiple leagues so i might be mildly biased

[sleek barn]

half the time i just reforge life on large clusters

well 12p clusters

[plush gulch]

Recominator and yes it is miserable

[visual valve]

but its just recomb ? like what are the odds

[cobalt blade]

i do alting unless you can force something with harvest

[frigid wedge]

istg every time i see someone selling screams i take 1

[cobalt blade]

so yknow my hands hate me

[plush gulch]

Odds of what ? You have like tond of steps

[visual valve]

the final recomb i mean

[plush gulch]

You can fail in many stages

Oh isnt this 1/2 ? Im not dure though

[cobalt blade]

theres multiple recombs that can be the final one

[full kraken]

pretty reasonable tbh

only 2P and 2S

unless I misread

[short prairie]

Recomb odds are pretty solid if you believe enough and had enough tries

[visual valve]

so you take two claws with 3 shaper affixes and recomb, but isnt chance for resulting item to have 4 shaper affixes miserable ?

[plush gulch]

I mean the point is you go until you hit then you continue

[short prairie]

Failed 3 times and the 4th time I got a 12 link sword

Just believe in yourself

[cobalt blade]

when you do your 2p/2s into 2p/2s you have a good chance to just straight up win

[cobalt blade]

but most of the time you end up with 3p's or 3s's whatever and have to reuse those

so its impossible to give a strict % chance for final recomb when multiple setup recombs can give you the desired outcome

[visual valve]

oh i thought that the more affixes you try to mix the higher the chance to lose em, or is that only when you manually select which affixes to roll ?

[cobalt blade]

your only recombing with affixes you want

[visual valve]

because manual select is miserable and pointless

[cobalt blade]

you dont recomb with random shit

[visual valve]

true, but still, the more you have, the chance for them to get deleted does not exponentially increase ?

[cobalt blade]

no

pre and suffix pool are separate

if you have 4 total mods in the suffix pool or its 31% chance to be 3 mod 5 mod 57%

[devout shoal]

oh what all the channels were hidden for me on tft

[sleek barn]

oops

i'll let you guys do the recombs

[devout shoal]

probably after i got banned for calling jenebu a slur

[sleek barn]

i doubt that something to be proud of

[devout shoal]

or after they hid all the channels

[spice pecan]

they got rehidden for everyone when they reopened

[devout shoal]

makes sense

[visual valve]

wait 4 suffix ?

or you mean affix

[plush gulch]

Procede with the slur keep up the good work

[cobalt blade]

yes 4 suffix

you have 2 suffixes on your left side 2 suffixes on your right side

[visual valve]

ah cuz 2 items

[cobalt blade]

yes

[visual valve]

kk

[plush gulch]

When you fail you kinda get one step backward

[cobalt blade]

the cost mostly comes from making a bnch of double influ items

[plush gulch]

But keep one base

[visual valve]

dang so its not that unreal, the game kinda scares the player with ridiculous roll chances when you manually select affixes

[plush gulch]

People game the system

[visual valve]

i wish the game portrayed at least some feedback on what the f is going on

[cobalt blade]

senses make one in fucking ssf for an example of it being quite craftable (tho they did get lucky to get 6 mod)

[cobalt blade]

ye

you just use unpredictable recomb always

predictable recomb sucks ass

[plush gulch]

What they do is putting non native affixe so they cant be transfered over but still count as affixe like armour % on a es base

[visual valve]

like.....to me thats just awful game design

[plush gulch]

Totally bamboozling the system

[short prairie]

It’s easy to understand

[visual valve]

thats why i never touched recomb ever, only this league after following step by step instructions from a build
and personally i fn hate following builds, but i do want currency to be able to then experiment however i want, its such a chicken and egg problem with poe.

[cobalt blade]

lol

understandable

[visual valve]

ofc its easy to understand, once you have read datamined info and wikis, but for a regular new player, the UX is dog.

[cobalt blade]

its a very knowledge heavy game eventually there is a point you learn enough to experiment without wasting currency

[visual valve]

kek knowledge, open poe ninja and copy, thats the result.

[cobalt blade]

and part of the reason some of us find recombs easy to understand is having just played and forced to interact with them in leagues(like ssf is honestly a good way to learn them)

[wheat sinew]

keep or attempt annul

[cobalt blade]

swap to lightning and yolo mist

[wheat sinew]

💀

[short prairie]

UX is pretty good

[wheat sinew]

need rarity

rarity yumm

[cobalt blade]

oh then its yolo annul yeah reforge drop

[simple stag]

What is rarity farming even for

[mental nymph]

Settle

[cobalt blade]

uniques

[mental nymph]

Don't be an idiot like I was yesterday

[short prairie]

No settling until mist

[cobalt blade]

which in a gsf enviroment kinda good to farm

[simple stag]

Oh sure

[mental nymph]

Which I don't regret much ,but eh

[wheat sinew]

nuuuuu it hit t3 rarity

[cobalt blade]

o7

[mental nymph]

You exalted ?

Ah annul

[wheat sinew]

it's riperino

[mental nymph]

The heck did you even want to annul for ?

[wheat sinew]

rarity

[mental nymph]

Double rarity

Would sell pretty well

[wheat sinew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

can't sell if you are the only market

[spice pecan]

create the market you want to see in the world

[wheat sinew]

we won the frac baby

[normal hedge]

attribute catalyst 🥀

[frigid wedge]

ggs on frac

[cobalt blade]

o btw side thing for splitting in gsf/ssf if you get more is that you can suffix qual before the split to maximize value of them lol

[wheat sinew]

meh xd

attr catas are so common

[vocal tinsel]

you should prob suffix cata instead

[cobalt blade]

isnt the suffix one somewhat rare from mirage

[livid quarry]

trade andies maximize profit

[wheat sinew]

oh the one from miraged ultis?

[cobalt blade]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Dextral_Catalyst

yea

[wheat sinew]

well they dropped after we got 4 helicals

so yk xd

[cobalt blade]

fair enough

[limpid prairie]

there are no arma brands of recall imbues

on trade

[onyx adder]

Couldnt possibly imagine why

[limpid prairie]

Right?

such a cool and useful ability

Fourth one! Should i take it?

[spice pecan]

always

[lean urchin]

its a free t0 unique

[cobalt blade]

surely its the mb one

[limpid prairie]

Lmao

T0 unique? you wish lol

[cobalt blade]

theres 42 ones with presumably bad imbues

[visual valve]

does this seer also give ability to scry ?

[cobalt blade]

yes

[visual valve]

nutty

guess very rare mirage ?

[cobalt blade]

not that rare honestly

[lean urchin]

not "very"

but not for the avg dad gamer

[limpid prairie]

It looks like a juicy selection as always

[cobalt blade]

volatileable widowhail

[spice pecan]

widowhail poggers

[normal hedge]

widowhail

and the wand

forgot the name of it

[lean urchin]

solaris something

[spice pecan]

light of solaris?

[cobalt blade]

eclipse solaris

[limpid prairie]

bruh volatile that roll?

[normal hedge]

who cares

[spice pecan]

vaalatile always divines beforehand

[cobalt blade]

templeable widowhail

[spice pecan]

so the initial roll doesnt matter

[normal hedge]

not foil anyways

[mental nymph]

I mean if you want to use seer trash inventory ,go ahead

[tranquil sedge]

me: can we have charlatan
mom: we have charlatan at home

[lean urchin]

imagine the big sheete for that 2nd sword

[limpid prairie]

Ill volatile orb a shiny widow hail if you want
for your entrataiment

[full fossil]

https://tenor.com/bnXJI.gif

[mental nymph]

That's the thing :giant swords are somehow globally not meant to have sheathes

[lean urchin]

so when u gotta use the urinal u just leave it next to you?

[mental nymph]

Hanging on your back

Or you ,next to you

[lean urchin]

[limpid prairie]

i made it (kinda)

[thick goblet]

there's a joke to be made here

[lean urchin]

my wewe could fit in an unset ring

[full fossil]

why are your screenshots always so shit?

[limpid prairie]

they are handmade

the imperfections are part of the charm

[full fossil]

[full kraken]

Im curious why people like charlatan so much, is it actually strong enough to justify using over a real sword

[spice pecan]

you get every shrine buff in the game besides special ones

[lean urchin]

build showcase made it popular

[full fossil]

its for the gimick of being super fast/immortal with divine shrine

[spice pecan]

and you get literally immortal too

[full kraken]

or is it cuz of this?

[spice pecan]

has nothing to do with the mana

[full kraken]

cuz I know mana stacker stuff is $$$ this league

[full kraken]

thats it?

[spice pecan]

it is literally just "how good is it to have literally every shrine in the game on you at the same time with increased shrine effect"

[full kraken]

oh wait it can hit divine shrine, hmm

[full fossil]

pretty much

[spice pecan]

and if you've played with a shrine belt, they're uhh... really good

so imagine wearing like 20 shrine belts at once

[full kraken]

its definitely worse overall than just a proper real sword tho right

[spice pecan]

am i talking to a brick wall

[full fossil]

then you combine it with bluderbore + gull or you go gull + explode chest and nuke everything

its meant to be a matter

mapper*

[spice pecan]

yeah it's not a bosser at all

[full kraken]

I mean yeah but, you can just get accel shrine from belt

[full fossil]

then you get no flasks or headhunter.

[spice pecan]

okay what if you had accel AND every other one

[full fossil]

charlatan gets both.

[spice pecan]

and you got flasks and headhunter

[full kraken]

and all the other shrines are like, kinda nice I guess but I dunno if good enough to justify not using a real weapon

[cobalt blade]

you use it for spell builds

[full kraken]

you get like +100% action speed you dont need either of those

[astral brook]

I made my 40d back

[full fossil]

google charlatan build if you want to see why its good.

[spice pecan]

the sword is fucking insane

when set up properly

[cobalt blade]

your just getting every shrine buff well mapping because tis funny

[astral brook]

I love stacked decks! 1 immortal 2 apothecarys

[spice pecan]

also it's like the only way in the game basically to become literally immortal so there's that too lol

[full kraken]

yeah but like only... 2? 3? of them matter much

[cobalt blade]

?

[spice pecan]

what?

[cobalt blade]

crit - accel - echo - resonating all matter

massive is aoe for clear

[full kraken]

like no one gives a shit about "now you have skeletons and shock enemies and chilled ground"

[cobalt blade]

so fun fact

it gives the greater versions of those shrines

[spice pecan]

these three shrines also give phys as extra

[cobalt blade]

those are phys as extra

you play a phys skill

those shrines are nuts

[spice pecan]

so that's 90% phys as extra BEFORE accounting for inc shrine effect

[cobalt blade]

you also get gloom for clear and non chaos as extra chaos

which includes all that phys as extra

[full kraken]

crit shouldnt matter much, if you are mapping you already outta be one tapping everything with a fuckin 200d+ budget on just your weapon alone

Accel for sure is good, I agree

Echo is kinda okay but only for flicker strike really

Resonating also good for flicker

[spice pecan]

and then the cherry on top is you get divine shrine so you never have to worry about taking damage ever again

[full kraken]

is this literally just for flicker strike?

[cobalt blade]

bro echoing is 200% more cast speed

[spice pecan]

echoing shrine is nuts on almost every build what

[cobalt blade]

no you play spell builds

[full kraken]

who gives a shit youre already at like 15+ casts per sec

[cobalt blade]

well now your at 60 casts per second

[spice pecan]

this is path of exile, we beat the game a long time ago

[full kraken]

so?

you have likely capped out

[cobalt blade]

its more fun you spell less time locked in animations

[full fossil]

i mean charlatan is literally the best in slot for breach farming you nuke 4 screens per tick, you're immortal. you're 1k+ movement speed

its funny

[cobalt blade]

so fun fact theres no actual cap

[full kraken]

technically its uh... 300 or whatever... 5x30

[cobalt blade]

30.3 aps/casts per sec is consdered as a cap but if you double it to 60.6 you can cast twice per server tick

[full kraken]

5 repeats limit? I think 5

[cobalt blade]

this applies infinitely

[full kraken]

if you are duelist

[spice pecan]

would highly recommend actually playing the sword with a proper shrine setup, it's actually unreal for mapping

[cobalt blade]

repeats also dont count towards said cap

[full fossil]

@spice pecan fr

[cobalt blade]

yup

[full kraken]

Im aware but only duelist can hit 5 repeats

[cobalt blade]

this is strictly incorrect

also repeats are the downside of it

[spice pecan]

it's like pre nerf headhunter but also what if you were on crack cocaine

[full fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694268078946779137/1358502866121130174/attachment.gif

[full kraken]

how are you hitting 1k+ movespeed?

[full fossil]

charlatan + hh

🙂

[spice pecan]

charlatan, headhunter, inc shrine effect on gull and blunderbore

[cobalt blade]

you stil have flasks a juiced up accel and a hh

[spice pecan]

its probably rather trivial, adn you have quicksilver+silver

[full kraken]

so you have like 400% base movespeed still to get afaik... 350%?

ah thats right you can have flasks too thats fair I suppose

[full fossil]

action speed.

[spice pecan]

oh yeah action speed too

[full kraken]

why wouldnt you use MB instead of HH though

[full fossil]

probably closer to 1.5k+

[cobalt blade]

because your a mapper

[spice pecan]

you're a mapper

[cobalt blade]

its strictly better to use HH for mapping

[full fossil]

you can click once and your on the other side of the map

[cobalt blade]

i personally dont fucking like HH but its still strictly better

[full kraken]

Im very aware, you get 40% from HH and 100% from fully juiced up accel shrine, maybe 110% from volatile orb corrupts

[cobalt blade]

they use blunderbore pixxel

[spice pecan]

yeah i'm kind of lukewarm on headhunter but that's one build i wouldn't even consider mageblood for when hh is right there

[full kraken]

if you already have a fuck tonne of action speed and damage, MB seems like the better take for movespeed to multiply against

[cobalt blade]

its closer to 130-150 action speed

[spice pecan]

you click once and you're across the map either way

[cobalt blade]

yes im pointing out that its more than 110

[spice pecan]

headhunter lets you actually just spam unique flasks plus a qs

[full kraken]

40 * 1.5 = 100

[full fossil]

with gull alone im at 102% action speed with blunderbore i'd be at 190%~ if not more

[cobalt blade]

accel gives you 50% action speed baseline

[full kraken]

thought its 40

[spice pecan]

cinderswallow, dying sun, oriath's end, a quicksilver, and then pick anything for the last flask

[cobalt blade]

50+184% assuming max roll gull/blunder is 142% action speed lol

now not everyone does that so 130~ odd range is more accurate

[full fossil]

i usually use a wine of prophet because free rarity and random cards

[cobalt blade]

and the 130-150 is accounting for tailwind boots since people still go for that

[spice pecan]

yeah, that too

[full kraken]

ah yeah I was just mistaken its 50% base not 40%, my bad

[full fossil]

although i was hitting 1k move speed without a quicksilver

i used a progen over that slot

nice survival pre-divine shrine

[full kraken]

so 50 * 2.8 = 140% top end with volatile orbs

[cobalt blade]

would personally cut dying sun to keep running qs

[cobalt blade]

no

[full kraken]

this further reinforces wanting to take MB over HH though I think

[cobalt blade]

its 92%

[full fossil]

tbh with phasing/onslaught/elusive oyu straight up dont need it imo

[cobalt blade]

75*1.22>92

[full fossil]

you touch 1 enemy and you start zooming even without accel shrine

[full kraken]

ok so 144% top end

[cobalt blade]

i like raw move speed

[full fossil]

fair

[full kraken]

this is even more and more reinforcing wanting to use MB over HH

[cobalt blade]

^

[full kraken]

unless you are using Replica Stampede perhaps?

[full fossil]

although funny no one mentioned the fact most charlatan buidls use onslaught + elusive

so even more move speed

[cobalt blade]

not really

[full fossil]

i was chilling at 1k movespeed consistantly

[full kraken]

Well I was gonna say when you already have up to 144% movespeed, HH isnt adding much more on top of that

[cobalt blade]

with HH you steal soul eater you steal a bunch of damage mods to brute force 100% deli even harder you steal move speed mods(haste aura that stacks with your haste)

[full kraken]

If you somehow arent already maxing out your APS with 144% action speed boost what is wrong with your gear lol

[cobalt blade]

dude

[full kraken]

I dont think soul eater is gonna add that much on top

[cobalt blade]

there IS NO CAP

[full kraken]

there is a cap of 30 per second NOT INCLUDING REPEATS

[cobalt blade]

you can cast faster if you brute force to multiple casts per server tick

no

no there isnt

its 30 per seconds until you get to 60 per second

and cast twice per server tick

same applies to 120 per second

[onyx adder]

I dunno sister dear

I scrolled up

There is a lot of cap

[cobalt blade]

its a server tick issue

[opal ingot]

fuck i realized

wouldn't locks skyrocket in standard

when volatile vaals come

[cobalt blade]

yes

[opal ingot]

why do i lack the foresight

[onyx adder]

Anyway this conversation is too stupid i cant deal with it, someone tell me how this guy hit 100 in hcssf

[full kraken]

you'll have to open a ticket with POB then that they are wrong I guess

[onyx adder]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/miragehcssf/character/V0di-5305/Vodi_DP?i=0&search=skills%3DDark%2BPact

[full kraken]

you can only bypass the 30 actions/sec limit via repeats

[onyx adder]

With no survivability and a skill that has infinite delay

[full kraken]

repeats specifically can happen 'mid tick'

but without repeats, you cannot bypass the server tick limit

[full fossil]

he's pathfinder.

he gets omega recovery

so his ehp is wrong.

[full kraken]

echoing shrine will indeed multiply that up to uh... 90? I assume "Skills Repeat an additional Time" also gets impacted by +shrine effect

[full fossil]

pob doesnt calculate recovery/leech

[onyx adder]

Ehp doesnt care about recovery

[karmic gust]

is this even true, i remember seeing someone talk about this in pob disc as well and ppl were saying it never was a thing

[full fossil]

im aware. thats kinda my point

[onyx adder]

Im trying to figure out how he doesnt get oneshot

[full fossil]

you said "no survival"

[onyx adder]

Not how he presses life flask

Those stats in hc are no survival

[full kraken]

But yeah if you have a total multiplier of baseline x4.84 actions per second for both cast and attack rate, you already should be able to hit the baseline 30

[cobalt blade]

fairly sure ive seen some shit for it lol

[full kraken]

Ive for many many years seen it iterated that the only way to surpass the 30 limit is via repeats

every big flicker strike lover lives and dies by this

[full fossil]

maybe hes just a chad gamer

[tranquil sedge]

minion build with spectres, skeletons a golem and an ag, linked to meat shield

so they're prob helping him tank hits

and if he never ran any actually rippy content

slow and steady plogging away

[onyx adder]

Thats my conclusion

[onyx adder]

Or this yea

Level to 100 in yellow map breaches

Alright i guess ur allowed to do that

[cobalt blade]

but anyway you are still just better off using HH cos of those + chain or other mods you can steal

[onyx adder]

I know what im doing this weekend

[full fossil]

minecraft

[karmic gust]

you can probs still do breach to some degree with that if you find binos somewhere and level that way :d

or oblit even is probs fine

[onyx adder]

Hcssf dark pact is probably slower clear than 3 creepers per minute

So

[karmic gust]

ez xp

[onyx adder]

Kinda

[full kraken]

this seems way worse than MB tbh

[short prairie]

time to burn our more

[cobalt blade]

its literally not when you factor in every mod

for a mapping build

[full kraken]

how much MS does QS+Onslaught flask fully maxed out give you on MB? its a lot isnt it

[karmic gust]

you are only rly getting 70% flask effect from mb on bunch of magic flasks

you can alch all your flask otherwise just fine

[full kraken]

basically the only mod that matters is movespeed and action speed

[short prairie]

@onyx adder my friend would like give me a referral

[karmic gust]

and you rly dont need more movespeed its useless

[onyx adder]

Referrals good

[full kraken]

yeah also you already are probably maxed out

[onyx adder]

What position

[karmic gust]

only thingwhy i would considerr skipping hh is the shit teleport

[full kraken]

in terms of being able to even control your character

[cobalt blade]

117 and you still get 40% move speed and regular onslaught for 20% playing yknow non mageblood

[tranquil sedge]

39% from onslaught, 78% from quicksilver implicit and 27% speed suffix

at 95% flask effect

[short prairie]

not sure yet, but 100% staff level

[cobalt blade]

same

[karmic gust]

that one makes your looting 4 times slower

its so annoying

[full fossil]

what is this shit

[cobalt blade]

i would personally also build it without HH but its strictly incorrect

[full kraken]

yeah also this lol

HH just like, sucks lol

[tranquil sedge]

not even a nicely rolled map

[cobalt blade]

unique flasks are so strong

[short prairie]

also salary will be a stepdown for sure

[tranquil sedge]

you'd buy and immediately chaos that

[full kraken]

if anything Id high key just use accel belt

[onyx adder]

Rly

[full fossil]

all his maps are 4 annuls {nightmares}

[cobalt blade]

you wouldnt for a charlathan build

it does literally nothing

[short prairie]

tax accountants pay very well

[onyx adder]

Im not familiar with US salaries on the tax side so i cant comment

[karmic gust]

hey you can get shrine effect belt instead

[full kraken]

like even /with/ charlatan Id still use accel belt for the fact it also applies in hideout and town and etc, and also gives you that juicy speed up even when you first start the map

[tranquil sedge]

actually an ok price then tbh

[full kraken]

and then charlatan for all the other buffs

[tranquil sedge]

annuls 11-12c so if u wanna buy out the stock its not the worst pricing

[cobalt blade]

welll you just outed yourself for never using accel belt

[onyx adder]

I only know investment management well

[cobalt blade]

it does not apply in town

[full kraken]

you know what I mean

[short prairie]

for my senior position i get around 110k a year + 401k & match + free insurance

[karmic gust]

i did not knew the shrines do not apply in town, thats lame

i assume because of skeletan shrine and the other shrines

but lame

[onyx adder]

Finance will pay a lot better eventually

But key word

Eventually

[short prairie]

eventually

[cobalt blade]

but also that speed up doesnt matter since again you just kill 1 rare hh buffs/any charlie buffs start skyrocketing you and now you have every shrine

and your belt slot is just disabling unique flasks

which yay

[full kraken]

yeah but you need to do that first and that can honestly be a non trivial chunk of time

Also... looting

[cobalt blade]

i mean

you make an actual character still

[full kraken]

charlatan seems like its gonna suddenly not be so much fun once everything is dead

[cobalt blade]

you just leverage shrines/hh to speed yourself up

[full kraken]

so yeah, I would straight up use accel belt

HH actively harms you half the time and barely adds a boost

[cobalt blade]

it only harms u btw if stuff is alive

[spice pecan]

hh has one single harmful mod

also ^

[cobalt blade]

shroudwalker specifically teleports to mobs

[full kraken]

and then I also get to have zoomies in other zones than just when Im in the thick of a breach

[cobalt blade]

its annoying but you can play around it

or like

unequip the belt to remove mods

i know some people that belt swap mb for looting

[full kraken]

still isnt solving the "rest of the game" thing

[cobalt blade]

then your not gonna play a charlie build at all

if you want to do any other content than mapping

that weapon is literally just a mapper weapon

[full kraken]

when I make a build I like to be able to do all content

[cobalt blade]

same with hh

same

[onyx adder]

Petition again to have a ui option that lets me import a text file with buff names, and whenever i get that buff it gets auto right clicked off

[full kraken]

yeah but a belt is easy to swap around

[cobalt blade]

adding skele shrine to this fr

[full fossil]

What.

[full kraken]

like if I wanna swap from one belt to another for different content thats trivial

[tranquil sedge]

normalizing belt swaps is some cursed tech

[cobalt blade]

ok so i will make the argument here that weapons are easier you just press x

[karmic gust]

i rarn hh for good portion of this league mostly because i had nothing better to do than 100% deli breach

[full kraken]

thats a valid point but then you cant level 9 gems in your weapon swap

[karmic gust]

and i needed some extra damage

[cobalt blade]

fuck levelling gems

[full kraken]

you super wanna be levelling gems if you are crushing super dense maps on a mapper build

[tranquil sedge]

hey the level all button is pretty neat now

[full kraken]

its like fat stacks of divines

[cobalt blade]

its literally not worth my time to grab them from lily

lol

[tranquil sedge]

naca too good to level gems like us plebs

[full kraken]

avg of 5 divs every set you run

[cobalt blade]

and grabbing them from trade is even worse for load screens

[sleek barn]

do you guys think I can play with a trackpad

[tranquil sedge]

ok wat gems are you making that gives 5d per 9

[cobalt blade]

^i can only think of trans gems for that

[full kraken]

theres quite a few worth that much

[cobalt blade]

and its not worth it for me because of loadscreens

[karmic gust]

i playeed with trackpad before, its uuh playable kinda

[tranquil sedge]

dan buy a mouse thanks

[karmic gust]

just dont play anything that needs to aim xd

[full kraken]

theres usually 6~7 at the top that you can look up, it varies

[onyx adder]

I think you are a beautiful flower that can play with whatever device or appendage u feel is most appropriate

[sleek barn]

these are quite the responses

I will give it a go for about 30 minutes

[short prairie]

today is the the day

[full kraken]

Purity of Elements for example was worth 5D a pop for 21/20 gems for awhile

[tranquil sedge]

i think that's wtd's attempt at a bootycall to you

[full kraken]

level 20

You wanna look at 21/20 gems

[tranquil sedge]

so you were just vaaling them?

[full kraken]

of course, 1/8 chance

[karmic gust]

can probs maybe try some gamepad emulator or some shit and try to force poe to gamepad controls

[full kraken]

so on avg about 1 win per set

[karmic gust]

will probs be slightly betterthan trrackpad

[tranquil sedge]

i see

[full kraken]

they flip super fast, basically free money

[tranquil sedge]

i didnt think of vaaling em i prob shoulda

[cobalt blade]

was this when it was 3-4c per gcp

[tranquil sedge]

makes sense

[full kraken]

I just vendor the fails

[karmic gust]

(also surely thats possible somehow but never actually tried that so im just guessing)

[tranquil sedge]

oh

[cobalt blade]

so about 80c per gem with a 12.5?% chance to go 21

[full kraken]

I get a lot of GCPs from heist tbh

[tranquil sedge]

wait fuck that

nah

fuck that actually

[cobalt blade]

doesnt matter you still have to factor it in

[full kraken]

true

[tranquil sedge]

i have gcp'd thousands of gems to 20/20 this league to imbue them

i hate it so much

[cobalt blade]

aka your not making 5d off the set of 9 lol

[short prairie]

dayum forgor to do management first

[tranquil sedge]

yea i'd rather just sell the 9 gems at whatever their 20/0 is worth

[tranquil sedge]

unless it was really good profit to gcp to 20/20 then sell that instead

[cobalt blade]

actually maybe off hop/hoa

but its borderline

[full kraken]

about avg of... 170c profit per gem looks like if it goes for 5D

[hard cliff]

imagine starting campaign with mapper loot box

[cobalt blade]

yes but you have to 20 quality 9 gems

[tranquil sedge]

i dont follow this math

[full kraken]

or sorry lets see here, 164c?

(5*390)/8 - 20 * 4

assuming 390c/div and 4c/gcp

[short prairie]

@full fossil mods ban this guy

for insulting

[cobalt blade]

gcp's have admitedly gone down since i last checked

[mental nymph]

You can also bulk buy gemcutter promise

[full fossil]

womp womp

[mental nymph]

Dirt cheap

Pays off pretty well

[full kraken]

so I guess closer to 4D profit after subtracting margins yeah

pretty easy money for like 1 minute of actual effort

[cobalt blade]

ye and for that work to gcp and vaal them and grab them from lily

[onyx adder]

Truth is a legitimate legal defense against libel accusations

[tranquil sedge]

im not fuelling your flipping

[cobalt blade]

imo not worth the maybe 3-5minutes

swapping gems in and out of sockets

[mental nymph]

It's like ,mere chaos flipping kek

I'm not like my friend who lives off flipping

[tranquil sedge]

okay

i think i know why your math is confusing me

what do the gems sell for

if u didn't corrupt them

[mental nymph]

Uh depends

[tranquil sedge]

ur not subtracting cost of the gems

thats why it looks so high

[full kraken]

the gem cost is the price to buy it from lilly

[tranquil sedge]

no

[mental nymph]

I get a lot of 50 to 70c hits

[tranquil sedge]

opportunity cost of selling them

[cobalt blade]

tbf they still sell somewhat well at 20/20 corrupted