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[split palm]

rq

[opal ingot]

is this gold rota really making me wait extra time just to click a bismuth

[split palm]

did harvest let convert crit mult with X

to Y

on jewels

[rough field]

Does it also have damage tag?

[split palm]

because as it turned out

[rough field]

Idk try it mayhaps

[split palm]

you can convert fucking conversion modifiers

which is just ????????????????????????????????

like literally stupid

meaning I wasted like 50div rolling it in the first place

and probably another 50 trying to get it to 35 to look good

while also having the life as high as possible

[cobalt blade]

from rilay testing yesterday yea

[split palm]

yeah it can

I mean

[steel light]

if u mean fire/cold/lightning then yes, this league is so much easier than keepers regarding elemental offense

[split palm]

you know how aids this was to roll

not knowing you can just fucking swap it

[timid sapphire]

why r u running

[steel light]

that too, all elemental damage

[split palm]

becaise you can't swap dual res

[timid sapphire]

fire concert

[split palm]

because avatar of fire

[timid sapphire]

*convert

wow

[split palm]

need another 50%

[timid sapphire]

found the only avatar of fire user

in the game

[cobalt blade]

its rly popular for bv chief rn

lol

[timid sapphire]

i thought everyone went elementalist

for max aoe

[split palm]

the most dogshit one lmao

[cobalt blade]

chiefs the most common for easy access to tank

[timid sapphire]

its inf damage build with perma div shrine

[steel light]

fire mastery?

[timid sapphire]

might as well aoemaxx

[cobalt blade]

The charlie versions kinda meh

[timid sapphire]

idk ive looked at fub play it

it looked insanely good

[cobalt blade]

its pure mapper though

[timid sapphire]

well yea

[split palm]

charlie one sucks donkey dick

[timid sapphire]

if u wanna do bossing u make bossing char

[split palm]

can't do shit except maps

[timid sapphire]

yeah but its most comfy mapper

[split palm]

also needs ramping

[timid sapphire]

it ramps better than hh

[split palm]

which by default means dogshit

[cobalt blade]

which minion pact bv is and it also maps rly good lol

and it just runs accel massive belt for good aoe/speed anyway

[split palm]

chieftain meanwhile just does not give a fuck

can do everything

[cobalt blade]

(or atleast it can not everyone does)

[surreal mulch]

did you know glad has one of the only sources of global "more aoe" in the game?

[timid sapphire]

yeah but which clears a map faster

[split palm]

probably ele, but also the worst one to play

[cobalt blade]

neither since your limited by breach

[timid sapphire]

chief might be better all arounder

[split palm]

also chieftain better in breach

[timid sapphire]

but all arounders are mis

mid

good at everything

[split palm]

because you don't nuke the middle

[timid sapphire]

top tier at none

[split palm]

chief is suprprisngly insane at bossing

[timid sapphire]

witch nukes middle too

[split palm]

can't onetick bosses most of the time

[timid sapphire]

just run tru it

u have a billion ms

[split palm]

but 3-4 ticks at most

comfy enough

for the fact that you can do all content in the game very well

[cobalt blade]

i meaan kinda but for minion pact your damage is high enough you can still skip boss phases

[split palm]

without ramping

[cobalt blade]

which at that point it doesnt matter your just accepting being marginally worse but consistent at mapping

[split palm]

and also way cheaper to build btw

because fubgooners don't know about chief

[timid sapphire]

idk i rather make a new char if i wanted to farm bosses

[split palm]

it was mainly to farm bosses lol

just that it also can map a bit if I wanted it to

[timid sapphire]

does it cover whole uue arena ?

the bv

[split palm]

no

it's not spark

but you can afk the entire fight basically

[timid sapphire]

does it skip 2x memory ?

[split palm]

inconsistently

[timid sapphire]

well there u go

[split palm]

like 30-40% of the time I did skip

this is the biggest straw man argument I've heard in a while

it's like saying

can a bosser do juiced maps quickly

well, there you go, your bosser sucks

[timid sapphire]

no

i mean my entire point was all arounders are good at everything

but best at none

[lilac parcel]

getting 3 synth implicits the ones you want is bassicly impossible no ?

[split palm]

wrong

just takes time

and currency

[timid sapphire]

if it was there would not be any items to mirror

[simple stag]

Just need 1000 craicics and 1000 vivid vultures

[timid sapphire]

maybe to hit 1 implicit

[cobalt blade]

my point is that if your losing 1-2 seconds off a pure bosser it doesnt rly matter (and it can definitely optimize for more damage to make that 30-40% skip rate more consistent or since idk how shika runs the boss even just positioning can make that more consistent)

[timid sapphire]

its more than that for t0

[split palm]

buy a trillion white 30 quals

and synth them

or just one 30 qual and imprint synthesize it a bunch

surely it will work EXACTLY as you hope it will

[opal ingot]

i have 975 craicics and 963 vivids

[split palm]

I think I did a silly in keepers

[opal ingot]

would you like to buy them all for 70 mirrors

[split palm]

and just synth'd a str stack wand with 3 implicits

just like that

[cobalt blade]

time to roll for onslaught boots or an explode wand use them all and hit nothing

[timid sapphire]

i heard they adding swords to poo2

[opal ingot]

just a drop in the ocean

[simple stag]

Ngl i’ve been opening up all my magnum opuses, broken promises, imperfect memories from my stacked decks and I’ve gotten a total of 0 useful synth combos

[timid sapphire]

and guess who is sitting on 6 demi swords

im soon in for a pay day

[strange moon]

ok im on pace to get sub 6 hours... im starting to see how people do 4 hours but idk how they do it as ssf/ none twink build anyway gonna go back to it

[timid sapphire]

those nerds know layouts

[strange moon]

like every possible layout?

[timid sapphire]

well mostly act 1

[strange moon]

doesnt it change some each run?

[split palm]

after act 1 you just breeze through

[timid sapphire]

well mostly early acts

[cobalt blade]

they generate in consistent ways

[split palm]

all layouts are like

known

[timid sapphire]

act 5-10 is way faster

[cobalt blade]

Its slightly different but you can learn which way it generated

[timid sapphire]

but fuck learning layouts

[split palm]

poedb.tw/act_#

[cobalt blade]

truth i just accept doing 6-10 hour campaigns at league start lol

[timid sapphire]

i do my acts in 7 hrs and logout day 1 with half a mirror anw

[split palm]

[strange moon]

yeah most of act 1-5 i got 40ish minutes an act. while in act 6 it was like 30 minutes

[timid sapphire]

in investments

[cobalt blade]

and 2-3 hour with twink gear

[timid sapphire]

3 hr acts over rated

[strange moon]

yeah we already talked about that its insane

[strange moon]

yeah im using twink gear and hoping to hit sub 6 (inch)

[timid sapphire]

u can do sub6 if u lock in

i usually play zoned out and crossfaded

and do 7-8

[strange moon]

i mean im on pace 3 hours 30 min finished act 6

[timid sapphire]

if u lock in even without knowing layouts 4-6 is doable

[split palm]

I do 3-4h with twink gear because I just afk a lot lol

[cobalt blade]

your largest time loss is talking in discord

[split palm]

real.

[strange moon]

would second accendency be worth it or just slow me down to much? (doing cheiften got the explode first)

[split palm]

usually yes

[timid sapphire]

the madatory act 5 mb flask rolling sesh that takes 20 min xdd

[cobalt blade]

I dont bother ascending with twink gear personally

[strange moon]

i closed the game

[split palm]

what

[cobalt blade]

I just grab the jewels for my best ascend to run

[modest sparrow]

Not even your first?

It takes like 5 minutes

[timid sapphire]

u pre roll em ?

[split palm]

just buy the flasks

[cobalt blade]

no point if it doesnt give me speed

[split palm]

can sell them later lol

[modest sparrow]

Fair enuf

[cobalt blade]

and you 1 shot everything anyway

[timid sapphire]

u need ilvl 44 capped once

can be hard to find exactly wat u need

idk

xpp

[strange moon]

first is 100% worth it atleast for chieften the explode has helped atleast enough to safe the 5 minutes spent

[cobalt blade]

i twink with smite so everything kinda just is dead and you dont rly have aoe for explode to be good anyway

in acts

[strange moon]

i do they same maybe its not helping as much as i thought lol

[cobalt blade]

lol

[timid sapphire]

there is bettet leveling setup than smite rn

[cobalt blade]

i dont like fusilade

[timid sapphire]

u need 50d watcher doe

with travel cdr

[cobalt blade]

its rly good smites just my 2nd favourite skill in the game so its fun to twink with

[timid sapphire]

and mana cost

[surreal mulch]

do you need move speed if you have triggered ligthning warp?

[rancid seal]

ok i killed kosis 15/15 sumu with inc aoe gem (i beat the game now i go to bed)

🙂

[cobalt blade]

Yes because town

[surreal mulch]

i guess for towns

[strange moon]

i will say i had a few major time losses (forgeting to quality my gem and forgeting to take dash before i had the stats to use frostblink)

[surreal mulch]

fuck towns

[timid sapphire]

yeah the warp one

[surreal mulch]

my stupid chud son is now finally literate

holding a pen and everything

[strange moon]

probably 5-10 minute time loss but its fine only my second run trying to go fast... first playthrough took 30 hours lmao

[split palm]

towns exist

[cobalt blade]

will say it was interesting twink levelling without mageblood this league

Accel shrine was definitely worse for levelling

[surreal mulch]

why

other than the 20 levels

[strange moon]

... im sorry you twink with mageblood? thats like way to expensive for my taste

[cobalt blade]

less total move speed

[cobalt blade]

yes

I dont usually level my alt till making my multi mirror chars

[rough field]

Poets pen lwarp is very njoom

[surreal mulch]

bro i dont even get a mirror worth of div in a league

[split palm]

me neither lol

I just craft and sell my way up

or gamble

[strange moon]

im trying to get a better build for my grind because the first 2 i made i hated/didnt like. so getting a cheaper RF to grind on

[cobalt blade]

i just get lucky

but also farm efficiently to maximise the odds at luck lol

[strange moon]

honestly that might be my new goal for my first league. grinding enough to get one mirror would be nice

[cobalt blade]

one thing id say is to have a goal to use said mirror on it keeps you playing more

lotta people set a goal of farming to like a mageblood then quit because they dunno wtf to do lol

[full fossil]

@tacit crow what is this criminal status

[pulsar ice]

I don't know if I'd be able to play any selfcasted build after spark this league, I feel like an addict now

[surreal mulch]

thats not even in top 500 worst statuses ive seen in this game

[strange moon]

fair my original goal was to be able to farm breach... still cant do that due to deadeye being one shot by everything

main reason im leveling cheiften

(also my deadeye dying is 100% a skill/lag issue)

[tulip vault]

i saw someones ip as their status before XD

[rancid seal]

can someone show me his build who is under 100 div

build

and isnt summoner

uber killing build

that can aoe clear breaches too

[split palm]

"please give me a mirror+ build for 100div"

[devout shoal]

how do i figure out what my endgame upgrades should be? im almost at the end of the progress i know and i have no idea how to progress to mirror tier items https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/BuddingRomance-2819/miragessf/character/SearingExarchKiller

[split palm]

translating it into proper language

[rancid seal]

my build isnt mirror

and can do that

[split palm]

it can't

[rancid seal]

i even figured how to kill kosis without to use insane defences

[split palm]

we've seen proof of that over and over again

[rancid seal]

it is like peeling cucumber

[split palm]

getting better gear

[rancid seal]

you cyclone around him not stand still infront of him

[split maple]

Get overqual tincture

[split palm]

like fracturing stuff, etc.

[pulsar ice]

either that breach you're mention is 4mod t16 with no scarabs type of breach, orthat build doesn't exist\

[split maple]

Quality is hella good on tinctures

[split palm]

less settling

[devout shoal]

if only one dropped for me

[split palm]

etc.

[split maple]

Oh yea ssf these are royal pita

[rancid seal]

i talk about poe 1 sir

[split maple]

Like lucky if you drop one per two leagues of desired type kinda pita

[split palm]

do some heist

[craggy fiber]

vaal can give 10 quality right?

[split palm]

yea

[craggy fiber]

can it give qual on tincture too?

[split maple]

Not on tinctures

Flasks only

[craggy fiber]

noted

[split palm]

but idk if on tinctures

[split maple]

Vaal gives error msg on tincture

[split palm]

flasks you can be silly like @opal ingot

[split maple]

Was unpleasantly surprised by that

[devout shoal]

im not vaaling my flasks until i get extra ones

[split palm]

do some betrayal

get some veiled chaos

recraft boots

[devout shoal]

me?

[rancid seal]

https://pobb.in/FztP9hSh7_RT final build version i think it is okay (this is showing without my buffs for regen and without molten shell)

[split palm]

yes

[split palm]

it's garbage

[devout shoal]

yeah boots are gonna be my next upgrade

[split palm]

get veiled chaos

[rancid seal]

it is Budget

[split palm]

and keep rolling defence harvest

[devout shoal]

then shield and helm and im kinda at the end of the progression i know

[devout shoal]

for what

[split palm]

so you get veiled movespeed

or try

[devout shoal]

metacrafting ms?

or just normal veil spam

[split palm]

basically

spam til lyou get 2 prefixes you want

preflock

veiled chaos

if it goes suffix - block idk what

idk what you would need

if it goes prefix, hope for ms

which is 50% unveil

[devout shoal]

oh ic

[split palm]

if you want to have better odds, you will have to settle with 1 possibly bad prefix

so just have like T1 life as the sole prefix

[tawdry olive]

holy

[split palm]

lock pref veiled c

2 in 5 for prefix

vs 1 in 4

[covert ferry]

Anyone familiar with KF Totems, especially champ version?

[devout shoal]

now i need to get resistances on suffixes

[rancid seal]

my budget boots

[devout shoal]

my current ones look like that and i dont need the crafted attributes anymore

do i reforge elemental or chaos?

[split palm]

what for?

oh the other boots

huh

[devout shoal]

i need at least 30 fire res and 22 chaos res

[split palm]

those are very nice lol

[devout shoal]

so im still res capped

[split palm]

If I were you

I would probably

hm

[devout shoal]

those are the ones im crafting on

[steel light]

u already have chaos, u can't do anything

[devout shoal]

probably reforge chaos and craft fire

[split palm]

can you ctrl alt c paste them here?

[devout shoal]

Item Class: Boots
Rarity: Rare
Anarchy Road
Leviathan Greaves

Armour: 510 (augmented)

Requirements:
Level: 84
Str: 177

Sockets: R

Item Level: 85

{ Prefix Modifier "Athlete's" (Tier: 1) — Life }
[phone]) to maximum Life
{ Prefix Modifier "Mammoth's" (Tier: 1) — Defences, Armour }
42(39-42)% increased Armour
16(16-17)% increased Stun and Block Recovery
{ Prefix Modifier "Chosen" (Tier: 1) — Speed }
28(25-30)% increased Movement Speed
13(13-16)% chance to gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill
(Onslaught grants 20% increased Attack, Cast, and Movement Speed)
{ Suffix Modifier "of the Titan" (Tier: 2) — Attribute }
+43(43-50) to Strength
{ Master Crafted Suffix Modifier "of Prefixes" }
Prefixes Cannot Be Changed — Unscalable Value

alr crafted prefixes

[split palm]

yeah

sec

those are very nice for ssf

[timid sapphire]

its free cuz u resell belt if u dont need it within 10 sec for same price u buy it at

[devout shoal]

yeah i got lucky ig

perfect would be normal %ar and not hybrid but its fine

still better than my current

[split palm]

like you practically

can force any one resist on them

[timid sapphire]

also shika

how tf do u mirror shit

[devout shoal]

yeah chaos reforge will be guaranteed

[split palm]

fire too

[devout shoal]

btw can i veil chaos now?

[split palm]

cold too

no

[devout shoal]

or will it remove ms

[split palm]

only 1

[devout shoal]

o ok

[split palm]

wdym

[timid sapphire]

u said u never hold one ?

[split palm]

?

what

[timid sapphire]

.

[devout shoal]

Item Class: Boots
Rarity: Rare
Doom Span
Leviathan Greaves

Armour: 510 (augmented)

Requirements:
Level: 84
Str: 177

Sockets: R

Item Level: 85

{ Prefix Modifier "Athlete's" (Tier: 1) — Life }
[phone]) to maximum Life
{ Prefix Modifier "Mammoth's" (Tier: 1) — Defences, Armour }
42(39-42)% increased Armour
16(16-17)% increased Stun and Block Recovery
{ Prefix Modifier "Chosen" (Tier: 1) — Speed }
28(25-30)% increased Movement Speed
13(13-16)% chance to gain Onslaught for 4 seconds on Kill
(Onslaught grants 20% increased Attack, Cast, and Movement Speed)
{ Suffix Modifier "of Exile" (Tier: 2) — Chaos, Resistance }
+29(26-30)% to Chaos Resistance
ok

perfect

[split palm]

in raw drops

[timid sapphire]

ah

[split palm]

like I have like 200d raw dropped

[devout shoal]

now i can slam ex and cragt fire

[split palm]

because I mainly did bosses this league

[split palm]

WAIT

[devout shoal]

im waiting

[timid sapphire]

i dropped 1k raw divs in mess than 1 week

on my ring

[split palm]

what you do now

is

[timid sapphire]

no mirr doe 😔

[split palm]

is craft inc life regen

[timid sapphire]

rigged game i had like 50 sacreds

[grizzled lily]

simus paying off

[split palm]

that is money

[devout shoal]

dont i craft regen # since its more weight?

[timid sapphire]

no qual xd

[split palm]

some money

[split palm]

doesn't matter

it's to scale minion life

and qual gives resistance

[devout shoal]

oh theres no craft for # regen isee

[split palm]

inc regen rate

[timid sapphire]

alot of ppl use specters for free auras

[devout shoal]

alr time to slam ex

[split palm]

you want to block this

[timid sapphire]

specially pof builds

[split palm]

or strength

[devout shoal]

20% fire res

not bad

[grizzled lily]

i think ur getting all those resistances by default

if u run a zoomancer

[split palm]

now craft hybrid

fire + X

[devout shoal]

yeah ik

[timid sapphire]

worst case pain artist is like 30 crit multi for any build

well ig its priced purely after bv builds anyway rn

[split palm]

yeah, but does not matter this league

[bright quiver]

not +25 for that +3 (((

[split palm]

all that to level spectres lmao

albeit no woke emp

[devout shoal]

decent upgrade

[split palm]

so I am 1 level under maximum

[devout shoal]

costed me like 10d 3 veiled c 1 ex and like 200 yellow juice

[grizzled lily]

wat

[timid sapphire]

10d for those shoes ???

[devout shoal]

they have to be worth a lot on trade

[split palm]

in ssf

that's reasonable

[timid sapphire]

ig ye

cant get free frac base

[tranquil sedge]

neither of these is particularly good at all in trade
sorry i thought i was replying to chad

[bright quiver]

gem level +25 gives +3 spectres

[timid sapphire]

tho acc u can

[tranquil sedge]

useful in ssf but not in trade

[steel light]

he's ssf, his currencies are useless

[timid sapphire]

frac orbs giga common

[split palm]

I would remove the armour tbh

[timid sapphire]

should not be hard to 50/50

[split palm]

but otherwise, they are worth a few div

[timid sapphire]

and get a proper base

[grizzled lily]

yea but????

[devout shoal]

its better than these

[tranquil sedge]

nah i meant that as a reply to chad, not to you

[devout shoal]

and these are my endgame boots from my guide

[split palm]

by the way

[devout shoal]

oh ic

[split palm]

you can divine the res

[devout shoal]

yeah ik

[split palm]

by swapping fire to x and x to fire

[tranquil sedge]

wat build

[devout shoal]

i dont need more res tho

[devout shoal]

https://maxroll.gg/poe/pob/v4asb0l9

im capped

[timid sapphire]

maxroll xd

[tranquil sedge]

i swear maxroll was built by an llm

so many fucking emojis and colors on the site

[split palm]

guess what

[tranquil sedge]

div sizes all over the place

[timid sapphire]

maxroll builds r so ass

[split palm]

it 100% was

[tranquil sedge]

oo boneshatter i c

[timid sapphire]

every time ive seen 1 its always ass 🥀

[split palm]

maxroll has a better passive tree than pobb tbh

[tranquil sedge]

the ones good enough to recommend to new players as a build guide are the only reason to use that website

[devout shoal]

its not from maxroll i can give you the same build from pobb.in

or whatever the other site is called

[tranquil sedge]

its not a commentary on ur specific build

the website in general is just pretty bad

[devout shoal]

yeah maxroll is bad

[timid sapphire]

bettet give new players league starters from good build makers

[devout shoal]

i used it my first league

[split palm]

IGN moment

[timid sapphire]

than maxroll slop

[tranquil sedge]

when possible sure
but some are good 'enough'

the guides are detailed

[full kraken]

Best build guide is poe ninja tbh

[tranquil sedge]

that is more important than anything else

[split palm]

just give them ben builds

[tranquil sedge]

i'll give a new player a guide thats 20% worse than a good guide any day

[devout shoal]

i do that on trade

[split palm]

it's the worst one of ALL

[tranquil sedge]

if the bad guide has more handholding

[split palm]

BY FAR

[tranquil sedge]

handholding above all else is the most important stat for a new player who wants guides

[timid sapphire]

nah best build guides is brain xff

[full kraken]

Poe ninja passive tree heatmap can get you pretty dang far

[devout shoal]

nah poeninja is good unless you follow someone who abuses the calculation bugs

[split palm]

poe ninja

is not

[devout shoal]

to look good on the website

[tranquil sedge]

yes but new player context

[split palm]

helpgul

for new players

[devout shoal]

it is at least for me

[split palm]

it's by far the worst out there for newbs

[timid sapphire]

there is like 3-4 ppl i would copy a build from

[devout shoal]

cause i just farm boxes and buy everything exactly as the other guy

and i end up with his stats

[tranquil sedge]

its not important who you'd copy a build from
you're not a new player

[devout shoal]

thats how i made my bosser build this league

[split palm]

new player will do this

see the 102b

mhhhmmmm

[devout shoal]

which had ci and progen but thats a small detail

[split palm]

interesting

[full kraken]

Yeah, I know, thats what I did, I used the poe ninja heatmap to get the sense for "what wheels on the tree are actually good?"

Then Id go read them and try and understand why everyone was taking them

[timid sapphire]

i mean any new player can just play ele hit rn

[tranquil sedge]

u aren't the average new player

[timid sapphire]

and do way better than any maxroll build

just sayin

[split palm]

mhm, let me see

[tranquil sedge]

yea still missing the point, i'd happily recommend ele hit but if i had to give a guide i'd always give the guide that does the explaining better even if its overall a bit worse

[devout shoal]

thats what i said its good when you follow someone whos actually playing and not abusing calculation bugs to look good ont he site

[split palm]

oh, it has blue item

[tranquil sedge]

maxroll explains shit a lot

[full kraken]

I do know how to do math I guess.

And read, usually 🤔

[tranquil sedge]

that is worth so much

even if the guides aren't optimal

if someone else does it too then yea sure i prefer other sources as well

[split palm]

oh, the glove is 60c

cheap

[tranquil sedge]

but its the same fucking reason its ok to recommend RF to new players too

[split palm]

mhhhmmm, cheap build

[tranquil sedge]

even tho the skill has fuckall dps

[split palm]

102 bil dps

[tranquil sedge]

because pohx explanations carry that so hard

[full kraken]

But like I /was/ a new player.

My #1 thing that confused me in poe for awhile was ilvl on uniques lol

[split palm]

surely if I use slightly worse items

[tranquil sedge]

elon musk

[split palm]

I will get 1 b dps

right

[tranquil sedge]

is that u

[split palm]

!!!!

[pulsar ice]

pohx my goat

[tranquil sedge]

he's basically the only reason to recommend rf at this point

[split palm]

RF is unironically the best newbfriendly build

[tranquil sedge]

if pohx guides stopped being a thing, would no longer by recommendable at all

[split palm]

and slams probably

[tranquil sedge]

would rather send them to do almost anything else

[full kraken]

I was frustrated/confused for awhile why uniques could be higher ilvl but still had the same stats, I was like "the fuck you mean this is the lv 80 version of this bow? It has the exact same stats as the lv 10 version"

[tranquil sedge]

probably slams or bleed

[tranquil sedge]

this is coz of the gem level scaling, imo

[full kraken]

That one took me a hot second to wrap my head around

[tranquil sedge]

i think losing easy access to bumping up rf dps was lame

that skill didnt need the nerf

and dont forget fire trap nerf in 3.25 because lmao fuck u

[split palm]

pohx's guide is like the only reason I kind of want to do a RF once

otherwise rf is just 40% more spell dmg in my builds

[eternal hill]

Should have played aila rf when it was a thing

equip broken crown
????
win lvl 100 race

[timid sapphire]

no explanation is better than dumb explanation ngl

[tranquil sedge]

stupid take

even more stupid coming from a player like you

[devout shoal]

im so broke rn

[tranquil sedge]

this isn't even trolling, it's not bad enough for that, its just plain stupidity

try better

[timid sapphire]

i think it teaches new players wrong things

[split palm]

a bad explanation still can be correct by for example asking here

[full fossil]

what did i come back to : o

[nova lion]

yep, while playing RF and by listening to Pohx in the background you feel that your build got +1 mil dps buff in game just from that ;]

[devout shoal]

i play my builds without any explanation

[tranquil sedge]

your opinion is honestly the worst kind of opinion you could possibly have

[split palm]

I ain't explaining how a build I never saw is working

[tranquil sedge]

there's like, 3 ways here

[cold sable]

what is ward loop

[tranquil sedge]

one is new player gets good explanation

one is new player gets bad explanation

[devout shoal]

i just copy whatever the guide says and figure out why its good if i wanna learn something about the game

[split palm]

stupidly expensive first and foremost

[tranquil sedge]

third is they get no explanation because you dont wanna recommend subpar things but won't do anything yourself to make them better either

[cold sable]

is it a "autobomber"

[tranquil sedge]

like how many people, myself included, are happy to bitch about guides that are bad, but wont actually make their own guides?

im happy to shit on maxroll when it fucks up, any time you like, but it is impossible to deny it's done more than most of us here for how much help it's given new players

and u are literally a top 1% player

so you shitting on it is even more fucking stupid than if u were just some random

[full kraken]

Is the context here writing a build guide and not explaining parts of it

Or not writing the build guide at all?

[tranquil sedge]

context is he thinks maxroll guides are not optimal and could be better

my counterpoint is something is better than nothing, so long as it's not completely incorrect

[eternal hill]

most maxroll guides have enough info for anyone who can read and get to t16s

[tranquil sedge]

^ it's good enough

[thick vine]

I think when you have been playing the game longer than maxroll has been a thing, you lose the ability to understand new players

[tranquil sedge]

their website is ass but it serves its purpose

same as poedb, that website is so hard to navigate but by god it serves the purpose

[split palm]

real

and true

[full kraken]

I dont find poedb that hard to navigate anymore tbh, its ux has been improved a lot

[thick vine]

But I still went to zizaran, Kripp, and Engineering Eternity back in the day for game guides

[split palm]

it's the same way in all other games

at some point

[tranquil sedge]

i honestly use google to search poedb lol

[split palm]

you just expect someone to play in X manner

but when they are new/bad/etc.

[cold sable]

can i make one for a mirror budget

[split palm]

you just get fucked over VERY hard

[split palm]

I don't know current prices

[tranquil sedge]

if there's an option to recommend other things that are well-explained i'll prioritize those over maxroll

but its just a safe fallback, if nothing else is there then this'll at least work

[split palm]

I haven't looked into wardloop at all this league

[tranquil sedge]

the detail in its explanations carries maxroll

[thick vine]

I was a hot mess as a new player I know for sure but some new players can play better than my first go around

[cold sable]

is there some specific thing thats uber expensive or is it just in general all the gear costs a lot

[limpid light]

Do you know the feeling when you were a new player but the experinced players felt angry at u for not knowing stuff?

[split palm]

the reacting for no reason when people talk about stuff said person has zero idea about is back

[limpid light]

they expect u to know everything and get mad at u when u dont know something

[split palm]

ward = expensive

generally

[thick vine]

Nah there’s no way that just happens

[split palm]

because it's kind of

[thick vine]

In PoE unless they’re trolling

[split palm]

an unorthodox defence?

[thick vine]

In competitive play I can see that

[limpid light]

thank you Cinder

[timid sapphire]

give a man a rotten fish and he gets full for a day (and sick)

[split palm]

that's a new one lmao

[timid sapphire]

teach a man how to fish propely and he catches a good fish

[split palm]

full of worms and fucking dies regardless

[limpid light]

you speak wise. sir

[timid sapphire]

i used guides for first league i played

[split palm]

who didn't

[timid sapphire]

realized 99% of ppl are just as clueless as i am

[split palm]

like the second you go into maps

[timid sapphire]

and never used one ever again

[split palm]

you just have to open a guide

[limpid light]

i did not

i play free no guide or anything

[split palm]

because what the fuck is the elder

[limpid light]

i adapt like mahogara

[split palm]

how to get voidstones, whatever

but than you just learn that the wiki exists

and you can just use it instead

[timid sapphire]

there is like 3-4 ppl in this entire game i would blindly follow

in a build

[limpid light]

That nice from u Chadsimus

[tranquil sedge]

hey kampfer

where are you from

[limpid light]

I dont follow guide, it is for those who dont want to enjoy

u play to have fun or to play like a machine?

[timid sapphire]

thats the correct way

learn to make ur own builds

[limpid light]

i play for fun, i discover as i go, i have skills and intellgeince i can build on my own

[timid sapphire]

and then u can copy ppl

cuz if u know how to make a proper pob

[limpid light]

i think those who rely on builds are weak and not worth POE

no insult

[devout shoal]

how do i farm glorious vanity?

[timid sapphire]

u can also tell if a pob is bad or not

[reef pewter]

may the fourth be with you exiles

[limpid light]

thanks

[devout shoal]

ive never done legion

[tranquil sedge]

not sure you understood the question

[split palm]

do legion tbh

[cold sable]

guides only purpose is to give u the good idea of what to do and then u just use pob and innovate based on ur own items and shit

[split maple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/quotemeifstare/comments/1ffukbs/legion_uniques/

[cold sable]

pob > guide

[thick vine]

I’ve only used guides to copy concepts and learn mechanics

[cold sable]

i love path of building...

[limpid light]

So u followed my method? of not following guides and free play? thats the way man!

[split palm]

the best way to tell if pob is good is to look at config

[limpid light]

why ur username letters are thick? like bold text style, how i get that too

[surreal mulch]

lol i nat dropped a goldrim in control blocks

[split palm]

if there is a wall of text here - very sus

[cold sable]

nitro

[split palm]

same for silly ticks

[native abyss]

i don’t even know how to play the game man

[limpid light]

Niether i, yet i have fun, i deferat bossess and mobs

[thick vine]

I just research builds and then see if I can just build my own

[split palm]

like I can click is the enemy shocked write 50 in and call it a day

[thick vine]

Building from scratch isn’t something I can do tho cause I lack the theory and knowledge to just craft one

[frigid wedge]

i just see funny stuff and throw shit at the wall until it works

[limpid light]

What other games do u play besides poe mister Cinder

[frigid wedge]

and cross reference related shit

[thick vine]

None atm

[split palm]

I just uhhhhhhhhhh

whatever the fuck I feel like doing

[limpid light]

heyy sans u are online again, welcome back 🙏

[split palm]

copy, cook my own, or a combo of both

[frigid wedge]

sure ig

[limpid light]

i play honkai stars rails, anime game, have u played it before?

[thick vine]

I should play more games but I’m not motivated to play anymore

[full kraken]

Someone was collecting data on enchantment rates in grand heist rewards right

[thick vine]

I have played those games yeah

[limpid light]

i play coz the story and animation is pretty neat

[thick vine]

But I have left the gacha sphere a while ago

[limpid light]

what happened, why u not motivated?

[full kraken]

I am curious to see that data, I wanna see how rare the 15% phys mod is on weapons

[thick vine]

Because PoE, PoE 2 cycles are more fun

[limpid light]

ah so a "time" issue, got it.

i play all fun games, but i have issues irl so i dont have motivation 😢

when i play game, the thought of the IRL issues comes to my mind mid gameplay and i dont feel like playing or enjoying it anymore

my hands and mind are seprated, i play and use the keyboard purely based on muscle memory, but my mind focus on the irl issuies

what u think mister CINDER?

[split palm]

my spectre kind of silly against maven memory game

[cold sable]

is that the scorpion

[split palm]

yes

[thick vine]

I don’t think about any other game than PoE for the most part. Unless something looks interesting and then I try them when I’m not playing PoE

[cold sable]

can it live the memory game ??

[split palm]

41 times back to back

[cold sable]

lmao

i thougt mem game was guarenteed kill

[split palm]

pretty sure

that thing is preactically immortal for the sake of it

as it has 770k hp/s regen

[cold sable]

gg

r u bv minion pact build

[split palm]

given I warcry

yea

[cold sable]

chieftan or elementalist

[split palm]

chief

[cold sable]

can i see ur build

[timid sapphire]

poo2 bad

well so is poo1

[split palm]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Shikamokou-9932/mirage/character/BoroSillyCat

[timid sapphire]

but poo1 is a bit better

[split palm]

not playing anymore tho, so no more upgrades will be done

[limpid light]

I will go to play POE1 now guys

Thank you mister CINDER
thanks VYXI, chad simus maximus rizzlermus, sans and the other guy.

See u all laterz 👋

[split palm]

there is one potential upgrade I would do, if I had the motivation to

[surreal mulch]

"very angry magic wizard muscle man writing increasingly angry letters at everything that moves" build

[split palm]

mist the ring, hope for 4 positive (delusional), switch to 61% coil

[cold sable]

@cold sable

i brb will look it later

[split palm]

and recraft helmet again

[split palm]

why did you ping yourself

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1379638337148551259.webp?size=80&animated=true

[cold sable]

search

for later

[frigid wedge]

why coil

[cold sable]

search for mentions vyxi

[surreal mulch]

you can just open the tab

[split palm]

better max hit in the end

[cold sable]

phone

[split palm]

it's like the only sidegrade even

[frigid wedge]

like, coiling whisper? or lightning coil

[surreal mulch]

firefox has tab sending

[split palm]

lightning coil

[cold sable]

i was thinking about getting coil

[frigid wedge]

icl i just forward everything to my alt account on discord

[cold sable]

need to figure out my fire resists tho

[split palm]

but the cost is astronomical for just slightly more tankiness

I just have a server with myself in

and no one else

I store gifs there

and links

xd

[surreal mulch]

sounds horrible

get organised

[split palm]

how about no

[full kraken]

Found it.

Also... oh no

Sum: 2374

15% phys -3 sockets: fucking three

[rancid seal]

maan i wish there was system for builds or even chats

[full kraken]

So like, we are predicting an average of 800 goddamn tempering orbs to hit it lol

Thats like 3 mirrors

[rancid seal]

like this player is under 100Div build , this player is 1000 div build this player is 20+ mirror build

so people can ask people stuff and check builds

[timid sapphire]

just use ur eyes

[rancid seal]

coz any build above 150 div for me is worthless

[full kraken]

Why? Thats like 3 hrs of work

Maybe 4

[rancid seal]

coz i dont farm much

i do 1-3 maps

[split palm]

skill issue

[cold sable]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/7IXN-0814/catsexplode

this one is me

[split palm]

I haven't explored screams

[cold sable]

its a ton of dps

[split palm]

I just fireres stack for no reason

[timid sapphire]

there is only 1 good build for sub 150d and it kb hh

[full kraken]

Why would people feel a drive to discuss builds catered to people who effectively dont play the game

[frigid wedge]

u have an incredibly skewed view of builds

lets not

[cold sable]

i have 2.5b - 5b dps depending on conditionals (punishment, magmatic strikes, vaal rf)

[timid sapphire]

name 1 better mapper for sub 150d

[cold sable]

but max hit is a little low

[timid sapphire]

than kb hh

[full kraken]

"Give me a build I can not go use" isnt exactly compelling :p

[sleek barn]

i played most of this league with a 10d build

doens't mean i did ubers or anything

but i enjoyed it

[frigid wedge]

no one said mapper, the topic was just builds

[full kraken]

If you want a build to afk in town with the best gear for that is in standard

[cold sable]

also my ehp is a bit block inflated

[mental nymph]

[full kraken]

Heist runner build is pretty cheap

[rough field]

Frog in da well or wat da saying was

[split palm]

mine is orinted towards just not dying ever

[frigid wedge]

that happens the instant u put on a svalinn

[full kraken]

Since you dont need dps

[split palm]

basically

[mental nymph]

Thoughts about champion lacerate ?

[split palm]

svalinn moment

[cold sable]

i love it too much though...

[frigid wedge]

seems to have a pretty high function to cost ratio

[full kraken]

My thought is that its not gladiator

[frigid wedge]

so i imagine its good

[mental nymph]

So it's worth it ?

[full kraken]

Isn't retaliation skill the big bleed thing ppl do now

[frigid wedge]

take a look around at some and see what u want

[frigid wedge]

its not bleed

its transfig lacerate and goes impale iirc

lacerate of butchering

[full kraken]

Ah I see

[frigid wedge]

tbf it looks incredibly promising

[rancid seal]

survial looks low

[rough field]

Block still good for giving you time to recover before next big hit

[mental nymph]

Saw this ,but I feel pretty skeptical about it
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/CastMagic-3703/AILacerate?i=12&search=sort%3Ddps

[cold sable]

its not that bad... very little can kill me

[rancid seal]

coz that is 80% of people

[split palm]

it's 10000000 times more survivable than yout build LMAO

[cold sable]

only juiced t17s if they get lucky

[frigid wedge]

remove howlcrack from the search

[full kraken]

Hmm... still not gladiator though.

I feel like all Id want from champ for impale build is FF/FF master of metal

but

Why would I FF/FF that when I can take slayers far superior node instead

[frigid wedge]

like, actively prevent howlcrack builds from showing up

[rancid seal]

i am representative of the casual poe players which form 80-90% of all poe players

[cold sable]

i gotta improve my max hits tho fs

[cold sable]

whats howlcrack

[full kraken]

The intersection of players that make it to maps, but dont bother to play much past that, but also somehow have 149 divines to spend on a build, is only 1 group of people.

They are called RMTers and no one caters their build discussion to such people here

[cold sable]

lmao

[full kraken]

Like if you want build discussion for sub 1 div league start stuff, we can talk about that lots

[cold sable]

profit gamblers

[full kraken]

But 150div as a breakpoint smells like RMT because if you know how to make 150D, you know how to make 300D too

[frigid wedge]

breaks pob dps calculation when used with gen cry and immediately integer caps it

[mental nymph]

Alot of them rely on abyssus,which idk as an option

[frigid wedge]

@mental nymph
try one of these two
this one maybe
or
this one
both look relatively promising

[frigid wedge]

formless flame looks to be viable too

[frigid wedge]

if u click back to search ive left the filters in

so u can take a proper look

[split maple]

The real interesting breakpoints for me are kinda 1d, 20d, 300d and unlimited ig

Also known as day 1, weekend 1, mageblood and change and lategame

[frigid wedge]

tbf sometimes the farm ur doing dries out

stem (he sits in vcs) randomly jumps in the amount of currency he possesses by like 2mir at a time but hes definitely asked me "how you're supposed to make currency this late into the league"

and thats when it seems fishy

he's not enough of an asshole for me to check tho

[mental nymph]

Yea sounds pretty nice ,will look further into it ,thx

[full kraken]

That kinda just seems like profit crafting week 1-2 tho

[frigid wedge]

nonono

bc he NEVER has an explanation

he just says oh my armourstacker friends gave me some

[full kraken]

You can make insane money league start crafting and then it suddenly dries up when ppl dip oit

[full kraken]

Oh... yeah okay fair enough

[frigid wedge]

he cant craft for shit

[full kraken]

My buddy chris

[frigid wedge]

hes asked me how to make 4 mod items

[cold sable]

this league profit crafting is easy because of volatile vaal orb and coins

[mental nymph]

Wait that's not the friend you have to make everything for is he?

The lazy one

[cold sable]

many items exist with positive expected ev

[modest sparrow]

Steve reference

[cold sable]

i have made all of my money using coins on guard skills and using volatile vaal orbs on cloak of flame

[frigid wedge]

no that's smurf

[pulsar ice]

I have yet to come across a skill gem with at least neutral expected value with coins

[cold sable]

and also made a lot from using regular vaal orbs on annhiliations approach boots

[frigid wedge]

hes just really fuckin lazy, hes actually good at making currency

[cold sable]

guard skill ev is like +3div each

[rancid seal]

when i say sub certain number that means 5 div builds 50 div builds and all under that okay to make it simpler under 200 div then 🙂

[modest sparrow]

Rf players fucking gobble that shit up huh

[cold sable]

2/5 chance for profit

profit being +15d

[pulsar ice]

yeah I meant all are positive as heck, even with just 1 most positive outcome in mind, as if all others are 1c

[cold sable]

and bv :3

[modest sparrow]

More like bmid

[mental nymph]

As in old experienced player who made a new account?what league did you freind start at ?

[cold sable]

the boots with +2 minion skill is ev +50d

[mental nymph]

You don't have to answer btw ,it's just pure curiosity

[cold sable]

to just buy and corrupt with vaal orb

[timid sapphire]

profit crafting is dead after like day 4

[frigid wedge]

no like

[timid sapphire]

but its good sometimes after that

[frigid wedge]

his account name is smurf

[mental nymph]

Ah

[timid sapphire]

like if streamer swaps builds

[cold sable]

and thats not counting reselling the ones that dont hit for normal price hahah

[timid sapphire]

or get new gear pieces

[frigid wedge]

as in

the little blue dudes

[timid sapphire]

u can craft that item for very good profit for a day or 2

[mental nymph]

Gotcha

[timid sapphire]

but profit crafting isnt spammable past day 4

[mental nymph]

Confused his name with the term used in league of legends

[modest sparrow]

What the smurf

[modest sparrow]

Its not only in league

Just a known term

[mental nymph]

Fair

[modest sparrow]

But you can't really smurf in poe now, can you 💀

[cold sable]

league of legends..

[frigid wedge]

ye i got that

[modest sparrow]

Do NOT

[cold sable]

pretend to be 9 achievements on global and get free donations

[timid sapphire]

having a trade acc is viable

cuz rats will spy on u

if u make alot of money

its not uncommon at all

[modest sparrow]

9 achievements means you made it to maps which means you can make money yourself

[cold sable]

how would they know

[timid sapphire]

well now that everything done trough async + ah its harder for those rats

but before when u had to use regular trade

[cold sable]

i see ppl giving away mirrors of gear and shit all the time to noobs in global

[timid sapphire]

second u list your mirrors to liquidate for some divs

[cold sable]

at end of league

[timid sapphire]

ur gonna have 10 rats looking at all ur listings

[split palm]

oh man

[modest sparrow]

The most I did was give my friend a winds of fate for his cyclone build

[mental nymph]

A friend of mine mainly makes money out of gambling now

[timid sapphire]

now a day it doesnt rly happen doe cuz u list everything in ah + async

[split palm]

Absolutely bored to DEATH

[modest sparrow]

Now idk about a whole ass mirror

[mental nymph]

Play another game

[modest sparrow]

I did a funny static strike juggy run in tyty's league when I got bored

[mental nymph]

Watch a show

[cold sable]

i was given a penance brand 4 mirror build by a random guy in my first league when i had no idea what the fk anything even was

[split palm]

no

i am too bored out on poe too

[cold sable]

lowkey made me more passionate about this game cuz i had a lot of fun with it

[modest sparrow]

I got some insane EE trickster gloves by a friend along with a helical in 3.25 iirc, They're still in my standard stash

I never sell stuff like that

[cold sable]

fire

[mental nymph]

I checked my std stashes ,it's only trash

The moment I logged in ,someone whispered me for 2 cobalts jewels

Saying they're worth at least 2 divs each

Gave them for free

[pulsar ice]

2 div in standard is like 2 whisdoms schrolls in league lol

[split palm]

yeah they are def reworking breach

[mental nymph]

Ikr

[split palm]

otherwise why the fuck is ailith there

copium

surely new atlas is phrecia idols

copium

[blazing spear]

idk anything about poe2

[split palm]

surely we will get delve and crafting

overdoses on copium

[timid sapphire]

poo2 will be bad

[mental nymph]

Good ,keep your soul clean

[timid sapphire]

and stay bad

they cant even make poo1 good

do u rly think they are capable of making poo2 good ?

[mental nymph]

I mean

[blazing spear]

I'm concerned about your pfp and username

[mental nymph]

This league was fun

[split palm]

why don't you go play diablo

[pulsar ice]

poo1 great

[mental nymph]

Breach rework (idk when it happened ) is very interesting

[timid sapphire]

i think their vision for poo2 is just bad

[blazing spear]

@timid sapphire

[timid sapphire]

all content is baby easy

[mental nymph]

Who?me?

[timid sapphire]

all u have to scale is movement speed

[mental nymph]

ah

[blazing spear]

no. the monstrosity that joined now

[timid sapphire]

absolutely 0 aspirational or hard content, ur char is slow af, loot is lame, crafting is mid

[blazing spear]

fastest block ever

[full kraken]

Its hard to make an arpg where this isnt always the endgame case tho, for what its worth

[modest sparrow]

What the fuck did I just read 😭

[mental nymph]

Imagination at it's finest

[modest sparrow]

I don't wanna be that guy but Im pretty sure they're not trying to make poe 1 with better graphics

[blazing spear]

That clown is also transphobic

[modest sparrow]

Ah hell nah

[timid sapphire]

they are trying to make diablo 4.5

[full kraken]

Unfortunately, that is precisely what a huge amount of their playerbase wants tho

[modest sparrow]

I don't think there's a problem with that though?

[modest sparrow]

What is the point of making a whole new game

[timid sapphire]

nothing wrong with a new game

[modest sparrow]

Yikes, did you block them?

[timid sapphire]

but not having any hard content in an arpg to the point where all u can scale past day 3 is movement speed

is just flawed game design

[modest sparrow]

Also this is poe1 chat, why am I talking poo2 rn

[full kraken]

New engine enables you to fo cool stuff you couldnt do before

Massive re-architecting to fix stuff that you just couldn't fix in the old engine cuz everything depended on it

[timid sapphire]

well poo1 is kinda in same boat rn too

but atleaast we have stuff like valdo

[split palm]

sadly this is true, but also fortunately this is true.

[modest sparrow]

Nah poe1 rn is peak

[split palm]

can we just throw away the good graphics pls

[blazing spear]

Fun fact: the only build he knows how to play besides the meta shit is blood sacrament. I am not joking

[split palm]

they are POINTLESS

[full kraken]

Theres a handful of things Id like to see fixed

But its definitely feeling pretty good atm

[modest sparrow]

Blood sacrament feels like a makeshift build to me ngl

[timid sapphire]

who tf is that guy even

i never talked to him

or seen him

[modest sparrow]

I have no idea

[blazing spear]

It's also so easy to setup

[modest sparrow]

Yeah easiest form of lifestacking

[devout shoal]

ok so to farm glorious vanity i wanna have vaal army legions right?

[timid sapphire]

and who tf plays blood sacrament

[mental nymph]

Poe 2 being cancelled as project for instance

[timid sapphire]

goofy ahh

[full kraken]

I am disliking this trend of making the belt slot just be "pick what flavor of God mode you wanna play as"

[devout shoal]

and general chance

[blazing spear]

He was active here, and he was an utter clown

[modest sparrow]

His name is "breachesneednerf" here

Well no wonder

[split maple]

I known of exactly one person who knows of one person who ever droped timeless jewel in map

[modest sparrow]

How even

They can drop from normal legion?!

[split maple]

Farm emblems and do 3-5 ways focusing on vaal legion general kills

[blazing spear]

what a sad clown lol

[split maple]

Yea from generals but is legit rare as fuck

[modest sparrow]

I didn't even know you could drop them from generals in maps

[modest sparrow]

Yeaaah, don't overthink it tho just block them and move on 🙏

[blazing spear]

I did

[split maple]

Like elon Just read the guide I linked you earlier

Its not a hard farm

[modest sparrow]

I mean a lot of people do

Its just the "i wanna try lifestacking without much work or thought"

[devout shoal]

i just looked at the atlas and read the nodes

so far

[full kraken]

Id like to also see ggg work towards making more content scale with map quant or pack size

[modest sparrow]

Thats all you need to do, go enjoy lunch or enjoy some gaming to forget about the whole thing 🙏

[timid sapphire]

ggg needs to revert risk nerf

and map effect nerfs

[devout shoal]

ok so fuck the general nodes and farm splinters or emblems

[timid sapphire]

bring back exiles

and breach

[split maple]

https://www.reddit.com/r/quotemeifstare/comments/1ffukbs/legion_uniques/

[timid sapphire]

alva too

[split maple]

Please read

[modest sparrow]

I kinda miss abyss last league

[devout shoal]

does the amount of emblems matter for timeless drops?

[modest sparrow]

Wish they'd revert the scarab change

[timid sapphire]

everything that needs gear in this game gets nerfed

[split maple]

Tytyos sub is a bible for ssf Players for a reason

[devout shoal]

yeah im reading and it seems like i only want the vaal emblem

[full kraken]

Like make map quant boost intel for syndicate, pack size boost odds of reinforcements

Make pack size or quant matter for farming incursion

Perhaps change the atlas node to "+1% chance to upgrade room an additional level for each +2% pack size" or something

[devout shoal]

unless i can do multiple vaal emblems on 1 map

then it would make sense

[split maple]

More emblems is more time - generals have 25sec respawn cooldown. So you want to kill vaal dude every 23 sec (2sec for respawn animation)

[verbal gust]

I love vol vaals

[split maple]

So full 5 way makes sense

[devout shoal]

oh emblems give time i see

[blazing spear]

blblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl go apostate blblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl go dissolution blblblblblblblblblblblbl go fuck your reservation blblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl use the untouched soul blblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblblbl don't use any gems besides those in your wapon

[split maple]

And is like pretty sure to drop glorious in 5way or two if you know how to count to 23

[split maple]

Yeah need to use different ones

[modest sparrow]

I love dissolution until there's a random dot on the ground

"My build is unkillable"
The humble rune of searing exarch you forgot on the map:

[timid sapphire]

dissolution builds r so bad

[devout shoal]

ok so do i leave this empty then?