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shows that proj speed is a pretty good metric for kbolt clear
empy builds are generally not amazing and are often made by someone else
bro empy doesnt know how to make a char
and yeah proj speed is very nice
chad builds are made with 10 mirrors min
quite frankly, im not listening to the guy who doesnt leave menagerie to run anything
if there's holes in your kbolt clear, you've done something wrong
thats just how it is
hey i did hella maps this league !
u don't have to, i've seen his builds lmao
doubt
i dropped 1k raw divs on my ring in less than a week of mapping
lmao
no mirror doe sadd
was a single one of them profit
i mean thats literally how the skill works, you are not rly fixing that without explosions
he's posted many pobs, dude does make good builds it's just you'll never put em together for less than 10 mir
and if u wanna make anything cheaper he falls flat
good thing explode is free when you're spamming chaos clusters anyways
wdym ?
i meant the ring that shows ur drops
i did alot of mapping this league
yes
i was running maps 20 hrs a day
was a single of those divs actually profit over the map cost
ofc
and even without explode you're doing something wrong if you have noticeable gaps in your clear
on str stacker? i dont think you are
sacred wisps should cover it
i was making like 30-40 / hr
you still use 2 chaos mediums on str stacker
with no big drops
and the only notable you need outside of explode is the unholy might/wither on hit one
xdd
the only medium you can get explode on is megalo
which kbolt stacks wither far better than kblast too but that's a different conversation
:)
lolno
ty for rendering
you can get it on the large then
ok bro keep playing kbolt
explosions instant cap wither
its rly good !
999 to go (:
I thought Im the only one who gambles with them rendering or not
great skill with no explosions and just projectiles
like kbolt isnt a bad skill it is just worse than kblast overall
sans, if you don't mind, can you please also write down the drops (:
feel like i'm talking about a completely different game or something
is miles ahead
regular kb has been best clear skill ingame for ages
if u solve its single target
have u ever put 10 mirrors int oa build
never seen ppl collectively forget how something like flat damage works when talking about hits per second
nothing comes close to kb
if not, you are
i have!
wow barrage good
as like a one time thing or is that ur usual league?
it's very funny
(also still miles worse than old ps barrage :d)
cuz as much as chad talks shit he does show up with a 10 mir build by week 2 end every league
given that kbolt is my favorite skill in the game...
im not even talking shit rn lol
i didnt mean it like that
kb is best clear skill ingame hands down
thoughts on using "the apostate" body armor for bv cheiftan if i dont intend to use rathpith globe or the dark seer ?
the only time i really liked kb on str stack was for doing solo 5ways
and if i hit with 4-5 explosions of a kblast per proj hitting a wall and on the pierce damage effectiveness is significantly higher?
requires aoe scaling sure but not like too hard to get that
get real chest if all you are using it is for defenses
doesnt matter
bv chief = brain off game = cleared
ur not using that wall skill
apostate is not good defensive chest
u want 1 button build
i mostly just mean normal walls
currently using cloak of flame, but would apostate be more ehp if i got es gear?
the only bosses u cant rly do it on is maven/sirus
i havent seen anyone run the wall on any buold ngl
well ur not finding walls
its so dgshiot
if u run good layouts
dogshit
(dunes or jw)
ive seen wall ran
in maps mobs are walls
i guess in jw u can get some walls
once ppl realized it was unplayable on slinger they quickly stopped glazing it
every pierce is more explosions
on wardstacker

but it doesnt rly matter
so its irrelevant there
cuz u can scale kb dmg high enough
oh actualyl i saw somene use it
like im just pointing out that on ST walls make more explosions
the only way to make wall usable is cast on ward break giving reduced cd per 100 ward
so at 50k ward wall has like .3 cd
didn't aer0 try playing poison explosive+seismic traps in the same build
and is actually usable
at least thats a bit less copium as its only for double hit
but yeah ngl i didnt enjoy str stack that much, ur forced to use regex cuz u cant run no leech maps
i added nameless bloodline to this build and my res went down... everything was fine prior https://pobb.in/whklSUkuD_JX
and less flask effect or less aura effect fucks u over ontop
no leech is fine? jewels
you just need life on hit somewhere
mana/life on hit jewels mostly do the trick
ive genuinely seen this on a build btw and it was good
all ur recovery is in leech
get life on hit watchers
celestial mathmatics KB wardstacker
and problem solved
purity sublime
pof sublime vision, cant use watcher's eye
thats not rly an option
say that when saw blades hit u for half ur hp bar
and u run intho deli ground effects
i paid for six portals
i'm using six
oh wow good build bro
i mean life per hit there keeps you alive
ah right, ring then or lgoh in main link xd
but seriously, on hit jewels solve the problem just fine, if you hit often enough... wait
if your build is good -1 link doeesnt matter anyway
str stacker is literally one of the better archetypes at doing risk xd
yeah
if not the current best
literal worst case you drop having a reflected ring for synth life on hit
congrats you can now run that shit
i wish elreon had a craft that helped out with mana costs
ye and explosions hit many times with some mana on hit
?
i mean it is
well no by just getting -flat mana
if you are running inspriration might as well run lifetap instead
problem solved either way
my kb costs 12 mana and 4 life

on a 7 link
and life on hit again anywhere
with kalandra and elreon on cogwork ring
but yea this is issue that zenith builds also solved easily
where are you getting 50 mana cost?
kb can also solve it easily
wat
no reason not to
how are you getting 50 mana cost with a better ring than me
u have 7 link this league
are you running like a 12L setup?
so its a bit more than usual
yes, my str stacker has a 7L
no ofc not
why would you complain about being unable to solve something when you can swap 1 item to solve it
i had no inspiration
its like complaining about reflect with mageblood
neither do I lol
lol
sitting in hideout it's 12 mana 4 life
idk kb costs more mana 
like yes i also rly like misted helicals but if you want to run every map mod taking a loss in str is objectively correct if it lets you do that
but either way no leech fucks ur recovery
ur going to be hit if u run 80% deli
or 100
too much ground effects
then u have shit like saw blades
and now shit is living enough life on hit still sustains you
^
this is irrespective of any build and more just the price you pay for running 80/100 deli
well yeah it feels bad but its runnable
well not on a hh build xdd
its always gonna feel bad losing a whole layer of your recovery lmao
not that i've seen, just was bewildered at his mana cost
when mine is a quarter of that on a 7L no inspiration
i gave my friend 5-6m to make kb build so he could play and i try it later
i mapped for a day
it did every map mod
i think 12link kb saw play during affliction
since people ran the double chest thing for no sockets
and played int stackers

affliction.. storm brand my beloved
well its why i didnt enjoy it so much
i dont like rolling for map mods
storm brand didn't deserve getting gutted
i just wanna roll for curren + pack size
put in map and go
and nothing else matters
if im blasting
i mean str stacker is one of the better archetypes for doing that
same its why i choose to make my builds marginally weaker into no map mod content to run all map mods

like i was just regex away no leech and less flask
but occosional risk giving me those mods
(tho even then i still avoid some mods with mod effect but their fine with risk like reduced block)
and rolling away good maps
gave me cancer
ill do some dps check valdos next league instead
i mean then just make like some void farmer
well i dont rly wanna do voids
i might do that next league depending on changes
i wanna do dps check valdos
Why not this leg
i cba learning every ghost effect
ye i didnt mean actually do voids, just make a char that's built for them
i quit this league before week 3 hit
Theres only 2 you need to know rly

embezzlers disables non instant recovery thiefs removes flasks/charges
rest are just damage buffs more or less
When do you guys think league migration will start?
league migration?
2 months
also dps check valdos sound more fun anw
we still have 2 months to go
and profit margins on em r pretty good
Ah shit balls, I need gold in standard lmao, don't have a build on there
I wanna get gold so I can gamba
because fun
make something that can clear blasted monolith
cant just a regular arm stacker do that ?
make an ssf character, get some gold, migrate to standard, then trade
apparently this is the first league that bigdaddy was able to clear it
oh you can always migrate ssf?
no
can you not?
Oh
you cannot migrate to std at all
they don't want you to rip hc league stuff down
int/acc zenith? no claw?
no he does it every league
u cant have zenith on claw
Damn
xff
That video was just his first one this league
yeah sadge
holy shit that took me forever but i found the pob that used wall of force https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1szj8qw/328_pushing_wardstack_to_the_limit_ci_bonemeld/
regular ms it is
Ye
still hits hard
The main 2 hard dps check valdos aree remote lair and blasted monoloth tho
Remote lair because its shakari map
yeah cuz the dumbass who made the build used a flask macro and had it visible 
during his hsowcases
with near identical or actually identical mods to uh blasted
wall of force actually viable with wardstacker

one of my favourite things with this is that the feared is a no mod lol
Because they are just so squishy compared to blue mobs
Is omniscience any good to build around .
omni has been kinda dead for a while
its okay but outclassed
it's fine yeah, just not a great item like it used to be
Just give res and pen right ?
Ye
i've played omni penance brand last league and it was aight
but it lost a lot of dmg
I should not have looked at the fucking miami gp results
esm made a omni kb deadeye with 400+ rarity
that shit is depressing
18% ms xdd
now I am in a bad mood
realistically you wouldve prob done more damage by going +4 crit multi focused
fair
if you spend some points in brand duration still fine ig
well yeah im not saying the whole build is insane just that it is a pob that does exist and uses wall of force effectively 
wall has like very long cooldown
so if he automates it
it wont be up when it matters anyway
oh thats pretty good then
yeah, ppl were originally talking about wall with slinger
and then they realized that basically doesnt work
ill make a proper one another time
thats like consistent 3-4b dps if he always has wall up
unravel for the silly
guys ai is noob look ai dont know i dont do mechanics i stand still 🙂
cant do anything
nice
how is it possible somone has a headhunter but its not a headhunter its a screams of the descesiated
it looks like a headhunter
skin transfer
skin transfer
how
mtx buy it on the shop character tab
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
is it per league?
idk how it works
what’s the ssf discord again? @split maple
need to buy one anytime u wanna skin transfer
o
per item one time use
i see the vision now
so true
is it tradable like that or nah
no
sometimes
just mtx ?
I look at my safe
Yuh
lmao
must have been the wind ..
will say something so stupid
oof, kudos to the mod team, killed that thing right quick
fun fact, originally this helm had, 69 strands, the mana regen and flat life are both 69
that there will be consequences
modssssssss
this is actually hilarious
Very
i still have other one for jail
too few strands I feel like
theres an imprint pre elevate with 85
omg new build plan for dissolution of the flesh
can you even use the imprint after woke
yes
wait
if u have to lock slam as last step
they're different helmets shika
strands fuck u over
remove ur bench mod
real move is to go for the dissolution hollow palm build with this
a. u can revert Awakener's with imprint
b. i have 3 bases
I know fracs them
sounds spicy
only splitting and fraccing breaks it
starting to look like ik wtf im doing
gn tho :3
i say with full knowledge flask slot 2 is deadge rn
definitely playable :3
need to anoint some max rage
did tyou end up buying that paradoxica
you were talking about
what can i do to upgrade my damage rn? https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/BuddingRomance-2819/miragessf/character/SearingExarchKiller
Explore economy and build overviews for the action role-playing game Path of Exile.
i wanna do bosses
and its not fun with like 4m dps
yeah self damage probably
ahahhaha that haappened a lot while adjusting forbidden rite
no...
i just happened to replace my paradoxica with an identical foil
maybe i should find actual % inc
and attack speed
hmmmmmmmmmmm
definitely dont just need a lightning 12p with mana...
Maybe you could make some DoT helicals for funsies
why it look like a seal sat up
fitting name
it looks like the bad apple section where the witch is flying on a broom
front or side
lasso
I hate that i just closed my eyes to look at it
very
Would love to make one for myself as well
Or idk
Just go for vulne ring and call it a day
lul
eh, it doesnt even look that good
Yea ,you're convincing me now lol
deadlock detected 🤖
169k nice 
Warlord inf only?
Essences...with influence ?
unless you find DoT on an influence
maybe if theres a bound mod u want
yuuh but more zoomed in
u make multilink helm by awakening and then essencing tho
yeah. you get your essence and spam it until you get the warlord mod
only like 200 essences
quick craft in and out
I thought you cannot Essence inf items
Why is my rice cooker so slow wtf
I see I see
they restrictions but this isnt one of them
Time to give it a go then
I started it 5 mins before my curry and my curry is now done, and the rice cooker is still going 
I have to make a life on block shield as well
nother route to craft it btw would be essence first cannot roll caster > take the 1/6 to hit t1 bleed
But that's just reforge life so
would let you get possibly pre and suff you want
from warlord exalting
would prob end up with a better overall item but more expensive
1/6 can go pretty bad lol
Might as well essence spam
wait wait
what if even sillier xd
i mean its reasonable odds
Sheesh
I hated myself rolling for T1 speed for flicker gloves
can i just mention ive yolo awakened 2 diff gear pieces for this build and both have hit t1 int, its a sign O.0
talented crafter o/
tbf imma go back after and do them properly
I think I did at least 3 gambas to save the item ass
borderline reasonable 
Excluding the Double elevation
so much thought went into these i swear
Very
lol
it wouldbe multiple div cost
youd essence until you get to the t1 chaos res t1 life and cannot roll caster slam
which is expensive lol
Thing is I should've settled for the first T2 speed I got with empty space for craft mod
But no
Got greedy
Cool items! talking about cool items
i guess but why
and what mines
im playin mines apparently
life goes round and round and i found someone playing mines Jiqani int stacker
idk how anyone hits sub 4 fresh start its taken me 2 hours to get to the start of act 4 with a twink build
Same answer as everyone else that takes 3 hours to do 2 acts
It's ok ,it takes me around a week to finish acts
U spend too much time in town
at least your gear gonna be free when you hit maps
lol
Kinda yeah kek
can you copy paste me the item so i can throw it in PoB?
It's always 3divs ish when I finish acts
not really i got my gear set up beforehand so i wouldnt have to spend a lot of time in town
Rarity: Rare
Crafted Item
Archdemon Crown
--------
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Armour: 266 - 304
Energy Shield: 54 - 61
--------
Requirements:
Str: 79
Int: 79
Level: 75
--------
Item Level: 100
--------
+2 to Level of Socketed Skill Gems (implicit)
-2 to Level of Socketed Support Gems (implicit)
--------
Socketed Gems deal 30% more Elemental Damage
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Trap And Mine Damage
33% increased Mine Damage
Socketed Spells have +4% to Critical Strike Chance
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Concentrated Effect
23% increased Area Damage
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Increased Area of Effect
13% increased Area of Effect
10% increased Area of Effect
+2 to Level of Socketed AoE Gems
--------
Shaper Item
Elder Item
this is kinda useless for arc
get down miss president
god damn thats more of a paragraph than i thought it would be
homie!
cant rly do much else but yeah it is :p
pre are all kinda dog
mmmh not bad
but you dont rly have better for pre
less dura is apparently in the same group as 30% ele damage
which i didnt actually know
tbf if i keep this pace i should shave about an hour a half of my last time
u do know u can do full suffix with just shaper?
Was gonna say get down but you are naca so you get a pass
WAIT WAIT
meow
wait
yuh for sure
sad
Oh the +2 chain mod? xd
nvm prefixes are still dog
they totally have this gloves so that slot is kinda taken
meant this
truuue
last time i saw those used was blade trap affliction
the only viable prefix is mana leech tho
+2 chain and mana leech to end then?
isnt mana leech not useable
sounds like a stupid craft
is 92% currency enough
since attacks
is it
ye
aint chain a suffix
bleh
ehh doesnt matter
i do acts in like 7 hrs
and still end day 1 with half a mirror
... how the hell
farm gold + hideout warrior
ragebait
oh no clue actually
that said any way you can fit 2 essence mods? i could use this on the build
yeahh nvm
with frac
so
no
hideout worrior?
i tried it and most i got was like 12 div no way you can get half a mirror without being on 36h / 24h
yeah i just craft fast selling shit day 1
he spends 90% of the league in menagerie
crafting
and do some profitable gambles
yeah... maybe for a budget 6 link helmet with extra aura on chest or something
ah yeah got it makes sense
it could be ok middle budget maybe
have u considered just
running a 6L
Do you still have to level up your town in kingsmarch? Is it any good without any atlas nodes ? Or u must invest ? I haven’t been in there since 3.26. XD
so yeah dont worry 2 much bout finishing acts in 3 hrs
aslong as u dont take 10+ hrs ur chillin
you just have to logout day 1 with some invesments
aslong as u can manage that it all that matters
cuz so much shit 2-3x in price
over night
does quant matter for drops from syndicate members?
oh i probably wont play first day of league/get through the campaign just sounds like a lot of work
Oh for now itll definitly be the only option im just creating castles on the air
Dunno if i will cap the build for now crafting clusters and changing equipment to mines has my hands full
i just like to go faster so i can actually play the characters
if u just dont forget to spam ur movement skill
and run a good skill for dmg
anyone should be able to get decent time
deathbeams mana miner sticks on the 6L
sanctum runner almost setup
now to get levels pepehappy

and to sit in lab for an eternity for min pcharge jewels
thats likely cause he isnt using a shitty ascendency with a shitty item
stupid Jiqanis
Zero synergy if you arent Inquisitor
...
but your smart if your jiquanis since you have int
xdd shut up Naca im so upset
build sucks so much
Im going back to fucking static strike ambush
you know how bad the QoL of that build is?
its much better than this Jiqanis xd
so sad
u gotta pet naca tho
meow :3
What’s wrong with girls discord
hmmm?
mrawr
:D
this is girls discord now 
but also what do you actually mean by that depending on where you assume a comma is that can be read multiple ways
What’s, wrong, with, girls, discord
are you asking discord
No I’m saying this is a girls discord now
also i think the primary issue is that the 3 of us almost completely end up on top of each other if ur tryna make venn diagrams of it

huh
we can all be pretty similarly grouped
nice
Gamba time
ahhhh i see x3
no one is topping each other dw
absolutely how i read that at first and was highly confused
:3
are you running pilfering strongboxes?
the gay thoughts cannot be escaped or smth
real
good enough for budget breach or no
2x instability 2x monstrous 1x wisps
and astrolabe
Where bloodlines
Should be fine would check if its worth pack size or currency chiseling depending on price
budget breach
depending on how much currency that took u to roll
pack size is 95c was next question
85*
currency is 180 i immediately wrote it off
yeah im bored
Ye not worth then

(+actually since not miraged you'd want to split if you wanted to use those)
and that's fucking miserable
Already?
Where your simplex and helical crafts
i need break farming 200k ores 
i want pat too i am good girl look how pretty is my Coc novas at simu
i couldn't resist
I wonder how important its to get to 30+ pack size with 90 quant
Honorable seppuku
its not 8 mod so 90 quant with good currency's somewhat difficult
not alot of mod combos that give that
This is funny
fairly important for 8 mod though since quite a bit more common lol
(would personally prio pack size/currency more than quant too)
eh idk i feel rolling 90 is not that bad and its worth it
not like i ever look for pack size either though
i was literally just rolling for 90+ curr without reflect
wait a minute
but also my strategy doesnt care about it (my map collection that i dont know when to use)
can hot even be reflect
yes
aw
Its still elemental damage
why's HoI get to be the favourite child
yeah there's no cannot be reflected on HoT like on HoI
the only good girl i will pat 
Gayge
Ye makes sense
that's zana
wiki also says it can be reflected lol
i would have to give up MS or curse immune for reflect immune
I see mathil
and honestly 70~% curse reductions fine
lone mess is cblood immune and stormshroud is res eff
fair
i could technically vaal my clusters?
Could get it on the reckless/double on lone

oh true didnt think about double on lone
both are reasonable options for fitting reflect into flasks lol
gonna be a lot temples
think we do this after we make the amulet which will prob take all league
oh should say im assuming thats replica reckless
otherwise not a valid spot to get implicit

honestly more expensive than i was expecting for good roll+curse reduc
i guess more people realizing its a way to get that into builds with screams existing lmao
other unique jewels might be cheaper as you dont have a roll on the implicits
its for that^
with kira already having some implicits and some of those being corrupt naturally
what a pile
and theee nightmare jewel being somewhat pricy iirc
stormshroud and what i guess is lone messanger will be cheap
Or dream jewel i confuse the arts
^
which i did mention not being too expensive to temple lones :p
reaal
can we corrupt that one xd
i was tempted to corrupt some of those for my own tbh
but felt wrong at 90-110d per lmao
some numbers are repeted in trade and are cheap might be worth to get one less node for corrupt
theres not alot of good es per power ones which i think kira was running
+reservation iirc
once your going for 3-4 nodes on the jewel you tend to only have 1-4 seeds
Does Ailith die every breach?
do you only get breach rewards based on enemies killed before it collapses?
also according to fubgun, killing more enemies on the edges of an unstable breach is better
dunno how verifiable that is tho
like mine for example 63400 is the only 3 es per power within MoM impossible escape and then it also has crit multi +reservation
but apparently it matters a lot more when vruun spawns since you keep the breach open while clearing out the rest of the edge mobs?
its just making sure you dont miss the few hundred mobs around the edges per breach
fairly relevant
well he mentioned that killing mobs near the center is like worthless compared to edge mobs
but i dont understand why the spawn location has anything to do with the loot
yuh cos its acircle and the outer edge is more mobs than the middle

If you mean like a breach spawning at the edge of a map its because you lose 1/3rd or so of the breach to it being eaten by the map edge
I dont think he had any qualifying statement like that
i think you are just taking things out of context
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
it was basically "prioritize mobs on the edge, the mobs on the edge give more loot per mob than the center ones"
huh
not even a little bit lol
i mean technically true from beyond honestly
But i feel like thats missing some context around it
yeah, i have no reason to doubt it, just weird how he worded it i guess
I think the the statement is "the juice is on the edges more than in the center" or something
probably yeah
basically just boils down to dont kill vruun/the 3-4 rares till you do edges
hey if you have the clip we can know i guess
dont rly need to know more than that lol
i wish swapping atlas tree also swap ur atlas
it's in his first breach vid from this league iirc
i got bored of breach but i astrolabed my dunes now im sad
it does? Or do you mean changing maps as well or what
ohhh
i see
you will do your breaches on dunes and you will like it

yo splittin map tech lol
Yuh
man splitting maps back in 3.14 was so funny
Cant do it for enchanted(mirage) maps but its big for chisels
you could fracture conqueror maps, split them, and then remove the split tag
if your profit crafting maps 100% worth it xd
haven't split a map since then 
i tried to do it last league for chisel maxing
And just decided fuck chisels too miserable
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Iirc you cant fracturing fossil special quality items
i know it has some weird restrictions to it compared to beast split
Do people really make 70d/hr on this strats
I tried 20 maps and I barely break even
You have to be doing it right and with properly rolled maps
if you dont you do genuinely get like 5+x less loot xd
my first map with his budget setup ,_,
ppl half ass a lot of stuff in the game and expect the same results tbh
they just slap astrolabe and forget everything not knowing some mods actually helps the juicing

YEP
it's the same with harvest, crying over 20k juice when the guide says 150k in 5 map

Or they dont finish breaches properly and fuck up the astrolabe
150k over 5 maps if you get the god harvest
And if your minmaxing it properly running bad maps to cut them off etc
and even then rng can still fuck you
id say lubes is 1 of the best thing they added for the endgame
i dont personally like thee aspect of it where its optimal to mouse over 4-6 maps after each map
but otherwise i like them
just makes properly minmaxing maps rly painful lol
on again harvest in particular it can make or break the astrolabe even being worth using since all your juice comes from getting good ones
whats this messing with the astrolabe thing
oh in harvest when you can choose right?
Stabilise and close all Unstable Breaches to successfully complete Maps within this Shaped Region
Breach Monsters have increased Difficulty and Reward for each completed Map within the Shaped Region
Your Maps contain an additional unstable Breach
if you fail a breach in any map you dont progress this
your loot gets worse
and that's where the keystone comes in, if you are too lazy or just want to rush the vault that's the play, if you are 1 of the players that actually wants to juice and likes to minmax the content they want then you take it off and mouse over all the maps and look for mods
keystone makes it significantly worse until you hit good map tho for some astrolabes
since you explicitly want to fish for a map with good mods to keystone on
Which is my gripe with it
If every map always had the same mods it would be fine
(same for every astrolabe^ and it also makes the vault worse)
like i said if you are just a player that doesnt care about juicing and just want to rush for the vault rewards the keystone provides that route of gameplay
besides the abyss one, cuz it always fail since you need to full clear every abyss and its impossible for one of the 20 to not bug out 
abyss requires you to add no extra ones or your like 90% guaranteed to brick 
its so bad
templar astrolabe only has like quant and rarity?
maybe its low key the best astrolabe for keystone
those are global mods
Its the best for vault rushing
and then you have the kind of players that are lazy and picks the keystone and cries about how astrolabe are so trash and not helping the juice 
templar astrolabe has some weird ones tho that fuck over bad builds
"map boss is surrounded by tormented spirits"
xdd
Yee
tbh it is fun for a bit to play the astrolabe game where you mouse over a bunch of maps but it gets tedious fast
pls just make the mods consistent next league 
i did not expect maven, elder and dread spawning in my map with awake and terrors i thought it was just normal boss 
delirium astrolabe is so meh if you only want it for quant but you cant juice beyond with other mechanics
ill hold my judge on abyss, deli lubes until next league, they might add something to it or buff the existing content
they need to do a major revamp of the mods
breach and harvest are the only ones with mods that are actually good
im going to try abyss astrolabes actually their bonuses are quite good
the rest are either marginal like deli, or completely worthless like the ulti one
the best use case for deli is saving 10-15 points on your tree
which is actually pretty good
the content itself is meh that's the problem with abyss, if the abyss lube was present during the abyss bonanza during mercs oooh boy
those at least do something tbf, they are not completely dead
abyss astrolabe beyong deli orb maps this is a good plan KEKw
i still dont know why they deleted hoardes, it was very cool
literally first time since the tree introduction that abyss was usable
yeah, that's why im gonna hold my judgement on abyss lube currently the content is so ass that it only holds purpose if you like farming corrupted abyss jewels, 85+ bases or depths
in short it's a snoozefest content
hopefully they dont leave astrolabes to die like threads and actually update them
tbh if they hadnt kept barrels that pacth i wouldve understood it as wanting more total monster loot lol
but they just deleted hoardes left barrels everyone went back to fortress
nah they wont, the only thing that worries me is that they always shake the meta that they become the same with scarabs almost half of it are trash and not worth to run 
Do delirium atlas tree points work on deli orb maps
what map is the best for farming betrayal?
is unwavering vision worth if im block all the mechanics? it sounds like it could be
they will hear the warcries of SSF andys about scarab sustain will add STRONGBOX lobe
strongbox will reign supreme again in 3.29 
not rly since you cant add scarabs yourself
dunes, strand, beach any open layout really lmao
(also cant add atziri frags)
Thanks for reading for me :,)
ive seen people farm betrayal in some underground map dont remember which one
like crypt from a3 i think
i cant tell if tha sarcastic or not >.>
im running dunes though
idk any frag ends up being better than the +20 points once u reach all points
copy them then, like i said betrayal is just a side content not worth to run specific map for that content lmao
this is serious lol
ahhh x3
i didnt notice that line thanks
cause i was about to open a map look at beautiful tree
i think it warns you when you goto open it :p
you can copy lance that dude farmed betrayal in atoll for 400-600 times in ssf forgot the exact number for 8 cards
How’s abyss profitable nowadays
it isnt
i tried, dsnt work
but that would be agood farming strategy
sad thing is, I need to get abyss uniques
abyss density is pathetic
So I prob still have to do em at some point
they do spawn a lot of blue guys tho
i actually tried abyss with boxes, since i noticed abyss spawns random boxes, too bad they dont spawn operatives out the wazoo
blue guys? secret abyss harbinger crossover? 
the new scarabs make it easy to get them and dip
i think its stygians with increased jewel effect
belts with a very shit mod
dont think theres anything else
its a good mod just powercrept by cord belt in the same league
mirage abyss spawns boxes
if cord belt wasnt a thing it would get at the cost of being a painful as fuck influence craft
Hordes? 
i think the spire does that shit
Back to its glory?
like i said too bad it does not spawn operatives inside mirage but random boxes instead
screams of the desecrated annoint belt and stygan vises
someone had to lose and of course it was abyss
yuuh
Can randomly spawn shrines, strongboxes, and tormented spirits around the pit holy abyss is saved
small shrines like half the duration
strongboxes is a strong one but yeah it's random as fuck the best box they spit on me while farming 85+ bases was diviners
use this, easy to farm with strongbox since it's not rare
i forgot if you actually get depths inside mirage
you cant
man i know this aint the place for it but i have to say this because its making me blow up. So im enjoying D4 in the poe downtine right ? i play the endgame, i progress D4's atlas tree equivilant. I go to try out a second guy. I find out the atlas tree is character specific. My other character literally has to reprogress the atlas tree
what the f man
d4 tree equivalent is character specific? wtf
that sounds awful
i watched dm review about the new expansion, apparently the 3rd tree is locked behind the expansion

that's crazy
They are on Steam now cause battle.net just fell off so hard
that's funny
In the end Gabe is inevitable
ok now that my safehouses are all ready i now get 2 encounters way more commonly
do i have to do safehouses now and release the ones with 5 or what
Granted their atlas tree equvilant is a lot smaller in size and scope, they're still pretty cool on their own. So they're faster to progress. But still, it takes time. It's unbelievable. I actually cannot fking beleive it. fix the fking game man wtf
i was getting 3 per map almost always when i didnt have full safehouses
