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frigid wedge
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the one from last league with proj speed per str

opaque sphinx
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chad usually does

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just pointing out

frigid wedge
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shows that proj speed is a pretty good metric for kbolt clear

opaque sphinx
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empy builds are generally not amazing and are often made by someone else

timid sapphire
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bro empy doesnt know how to make a char

spice pecan
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and yeah proj speed is very nice

opaque sphinx
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chad builds are made with 10 mirrors min

frigid wedge
spice pecan
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if there's holes in your kbolt clear, you've done something wrong

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thats just how it is

timid sapphire
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hey i did hella maps this league !

opaque sphinx
frigid wedge
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doubt

timid sapphire
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i dropped 1k raw divs on my ring in less than a week of mapping

timid sapphire
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no mirror doe sadd

frigid wedge
karmic gust
opaque sphinx
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he's posted many pobs, dude does make good builds it's just you'll never put em together for less than 10 mir

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and if u wanna make anything cheaper he falls flat

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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i meant the ring that shows ur drops

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i did alot of mapping this league

frigid wedge
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yes

timid sapphire
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i was running maps 20 hrs a day

frigid wedge
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was a single of those divs actually profit over the map cost

timid sapphire
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ofc

spice pecan
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and even without explode you're doing something wrong if you have noticeable gaps in your clear

karmic gust
spice pecan
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sacred wisps should cover it

timid sapphire
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i was making like 30-40 / hr

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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with no big drops

spice pecan
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and the only notable you need outside of explode is the unholy might/wither on hit one

timid sapphire
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xdd

cobalt blade
spice pecan
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which kbolt stacks wither far better than kblast too but that's a different conversation

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:)

frigid wedge
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ty for rendering

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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ok bro keep playing kbolt

cobalt blade
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explosions instant cap wither

timid sapphire
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its rly good !

split palm
modest sparrow
timid sapphire
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great skill with no explosions and just projectiles

cobalt blade
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like kbolt isnt a bad skill it is just worse than kblast overall

split palm
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sans, if you don't mind, can you please also write down the drops (:

timid sapphire
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nah it aint bad

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but regular kb

spice pecan
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feel like i'm talking about a completely different game or something

timid sapphire
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is miles ahead

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regular kb has been best clear skill ingame for ages

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if u solve its single target

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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never seen ppl collectively forget how something like flat damage works when talking about hits per second

timid sapphire
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nothing comes close to kb

opaque sphinx
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if not, you are

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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dude str stacker has enough dmg to run kb

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as single target

spice pecan
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i will say

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i think kbolt barrage is goated for single target

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sorry not sorry

timid sapphire
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wow barrage good

opaque sphinx
spice pecan
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it's very funny

timid sapphire
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for single target

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who would have thought

karmic gust
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(also still miles worse than old ps barrage :d)

opaque sphinx
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cuz as much as chad talks shit he does show up with a 10 mir build by week 2 end every league

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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im not even talking shit rn lol

opaque sphinx
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i didnt mean it like that

timid sapphire
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kb is best clear skill ingame hands down

cold sable
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thoughts on using "the apostate" body armor for bv cheiftan if i dont intend to use rathpith globe or the dark seer ?

timid sapphire
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if u just solve its single target

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nothing comes close to it

spice pecan
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the only time i really liked kb on str stack was for doing solo 5ways

cobalt blade
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requires aoe scaling sure but not like too hard to get that

karmic gust
opaque sphinx
timid sapphire
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ur not using that wall skill

karmic gust
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apostate is not good defensive chest

timid sapphire
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u want 1 button build

cobalt blade
cold sable
spice pecan
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yeah no one means force wall

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when talking about walls

cobalt blade
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the only bosses u cant rly do it on is maven/sirus

karmic gust
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i havent seen anyone run the wall on any buold ngl

timid sapphire
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well ur not finding walls

karmic gust
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its so dgshiot

timid sapphire
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if u run good layouts

karmic gust
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dogshit

timid sapphire
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(dunes or jw)

opaque sphinx
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ive seen wall ran

cobalt blade
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in maps mobs are walls

timid sapphire
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i guess in jw u can get some walls

spice pecan
cobalt blade
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every pierce is more explosions

opaque sphinx
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on wardstacker

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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but it doesnt rly matter

cobalt blade
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so its irrelevant there

timid sapphire
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cuz u can scale kb dmg high enough

karmic gust
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oh actualyl i saw somene use it

cobalt blade
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like im just pointing out that on ST walls make more explosions

karmic gust
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i think aero

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has it wiht the trap memes

cobalt blade
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which gives it more dmg than kbolt

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if you use it right

karmic gust
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on the ice shot of pnetrartion

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lmao

opaque sphinx
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the only way to make wall usable is cast on ward break giving reduced cd per 100 ward
so at 50k ward wall has like .3 cd

spice pecan
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didn't aer0 try playing poison explosive+seismic traps in the same build

opaque sphinx
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and is actually usable

karmic gust
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at least thats a bit less copium as its only for double hit

timid sapphire
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but yeah ngl i didnt enjoy str stack that much, ur forced to use regex cuz u cant run no leech maps

karmic gust
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or something

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so you dont eat it that fast

plucky rivet
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i added nameless bloodline to this build and my res went down... everything was fine prior https://pobb.in/whklSUkuD_JX

timid sapphire
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and less flask effect or less aura effect fucks u over ontop

cobalt blade
spice pecan
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mana/life on hit jewels mostly do the trick

opaque sphinx
timid sapphire
spice pecan
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who cares about recovery

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deal damage

karmic gust
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get life on hit watchers

opaque sphinx
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celestial mathmatics KB wardstacker

karmic gust
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and problem solved

cobalt blade
spice pecan
cobalt blade
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thats not rly an option

timid sapphire
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say that when saw blades hit u for half ur hp bar

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and u run intho deli ground effects

spice pecan
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i'm using six

timid sapphire
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oh wow good build bro

cobalt blade
timid sapphire
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1 map per hour

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6 portal gaming

karmic gust
spice pecan
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but seriously, on hit jewels solve the problem just fine, if you hit often enough... wait

karmic gust
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if your build is good -1 link doeesnt matter anyway

cobalt blade
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str stacker is literally one of the better archetypes at doing risk xd

spice pecan
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yeah

cobalt blade
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if not the current best

spice pecan
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no leech is a non-issue lmao

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its annoying at worst

cobalt blade
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literal worst case you drop having a reflected ring for synth life on hit

timid sapphire
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ur kb coss like 50 mana lol

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well atleast this league with 7 link

cobalt blade
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congrats you can now run that shit

spice pecan
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i wish elreon had a craft that helped out with mana costs

cobalt blade
timid sapphire
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even with every mirror cluster having on hit

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its not enough to sustain ur mana

spice pecan
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?

cobalt blade
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i mean it is

timid sapphire
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well with inspiration yeah i guess

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but ur still not recovering ur life

cobalt blade
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well no by just getting -flat mana

karmic gust
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if you are running inspriration might as well run lifetap instead

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problem solved either way

spice pecan
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my kb costs 12 mana and 4 life

karmic gust
spice pecan
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on a 7 link

cobalt blade
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and life on hit again anywhere

spice pecan
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with kalandra and elreon on cogwork ring

karmic gust
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but yea this is issue that zenith builds also solved easily

spice pecan
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where are you getting 50 mana cost?

karmic gust
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kb can also solve it easily

timid sapphire
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wat

karmic gust
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no reason not to

timid sapphire
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u run misted helical

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why would u play str stacker and not run misted helical

spice pecan
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how are you getting 50 mana cost with a better ring than me

timid sapphire
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u have 7 link this league

spice pecan
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are you running like a 12L setup?

timid sapphire
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so its a bit more than usual

spice pecan
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yes, my str stacker has a 7L

timid sapphire
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no ofc not

cobalt blade
timid sapphire
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i had no inspiration

cobalt blade
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its like complaining about reflect with mageblood

spice pecan
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neither do I lol

cobalt blade
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lol

spice pecan
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sitting in hideout it's 12 mana 4 life

timid sapphire
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idk kb costs more mana shrugR

cobalt blade
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like yes i also rly like misted helicals but if you want to run every map mod taking a loss in str is objectively correct if it lets you do that

timid sapphire
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but either way no leech fucks ur recovery

spice pecan
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i mean no leech is annoying yeah

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but very easily solvable

timid sapphire
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ur going to be hit if u run 80% deli

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or 100

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too much ground effects

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then u have shit like saw blades

cobalt blade
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and now shit is living enough life on hit still sustains you

spice pecan
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^

timid sapphire
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occosional mob projectile hit u off screen

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no leech just fells extremly bad

short prairie
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Are there any 11 12 link kbs

spice pecan
cobalt blade
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well yeah it feels bad but its runnable

timid sapphire
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well not on a hh build xdd

cobalt blade
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its always gonna feel bad losing a whole layer of your recovery lmao

spice pecan
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when mine is a quarter of that on a 7L no inspiration

timid sapphire
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i gave my friend 5-6m to make kb build so he could play and i try it later

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i mapped for a day

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it did every map mod

spice pecan
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my elreon ring isn't even misted either xdd

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got lazy at the end

cobalt blade
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since people ran the double chest thing for no sockets

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and played int stackers

short prairie
spice pecan
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affliction.. storm brand my beloved

timid sapphire
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i dont like rolling for map mods

spice pecan
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storm brand didn't deserve getting gutted

timid sapphire
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i just wanna roll for curren + pack size

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put in map and go

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and nothing else matters

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if im blasting

spice pecan
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i mean str stacker is one of the better archetypes for doing that

timid sapphire
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yeah its rly good

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but its not hh good

cobalt blade
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same its why i choose to make my builds marginally weaker into no map mod content to run all map mods

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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like i was just regex away no leech and less flask

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but occosional risk giving me those mods

cobalt blade
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(tho even then i still avoid some mods with mod effect but their fine with risk like reduced block)

timid sapphire
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and rolling away good maps

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gave me cancer

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ill do some dps check valdos next league instead

spice pecan
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i mean then just make like some void farmer

timid sapphire
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dont need to roll

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can make real char

spice pecan
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int stack glad

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poggers

timid sapphire
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well i dont rly wanna do voids

cobalt blade
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i might do that next league depending on changes

timid sapphire
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i wanna do dps check valdos

short prairie
timid sapphire
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i cba learning every ghost effect

spice pecan
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ye i didnt mean actually do voids, just make a char that's built for them

timid sapphire
cobalt blade
short prairie
cobalt blade
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embezzlers disables non instant recovery thiefs removes flasks/charges

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rest are just damage buffs more or less

zealous umbra
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When do you guys think league migration will start?

spice pecan
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league migration?

cobalt blade
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2 months

timid sapphire
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also dps check valdos sound more fun anw

spice pecan
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we still have 2 months to go

timid sapphire
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and profit margins on em r pretty good

zealous umbra
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Ah shit balls, I need gold in standard lmao, don't have a build on there

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I wanna get gold so I can gamba

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because fun

spice pecan
timid sapphire
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cant just a regular arm stacker do that ?

spice pecan
spice pecan
zealous umbra
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oh you can always migrate ssf?

normal hedge
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no

spice pecan
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can you not?

zealous umbra
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Oh

normal hedge
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you cannot migrate to std at all

spice pecan
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i've migrated ssf to trade

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oh yeah

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you can't migrate to std lmao

gritty garnet
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they don't want you to rip hc league stuff down

timid sapphire
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ill cook a int / accu stack zenith for next league

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i bet it could clear that

spice pecan
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int/acc zenith? no claw?

timid sapphire
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i can see that build getting 10+b

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WAit im dumb

cobalt blade
timid sapphire
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u cant have zenith on claw

zealous umbra
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Damn

timid sapphire
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xff

cobalt blade
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That video was just his first one this league

spice pecan
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yeah sadge

timid sapphire
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cook dead before pob opened

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can u do regular ms

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on claw

spice pecan
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yeah

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i think

opaque sphinx
timid sapphire
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regular ms it is

cobalt blade
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Ye

timid sapphire
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still hits hard

normal hedge
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removed by moderator

cobalt blade
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The main 2 hard dps check valdos aree remote lair and blasted monoloth tho

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Remote lair because its shakari map

opaque sphinx
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yeah cuz the dumbass who made the build used a flask macro and had it visible kek

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during his hsowcases

spice pecan
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god i hate shakari

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let me hit the fucking boss ggg

opaque sphinx
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but yeah

cobalt blade
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with near identical or actually identical mods to uh blasted

opaque sphinx
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wall of force actually viable with wardstacker

cobalt blade
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ignore the prices i used standard because I knew theyd exist there

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very pain maps

spice pecan
opaque sphinx
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cobalt blade
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one of my favourite things with this is that the feared is a no mod lol

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Because they are just so squishy compared to blue mobs

candid stag
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Is omniscience any good to build around .

spice pecan
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omni has been kinda dead for a while

cobalt blade
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its okay but outclassed

spice pecan
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it's fine yeah, just not a great item like it used to be

candid stag
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Just give res and pen right ?

cobalt blade
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Ye

normal hedge
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i've played omni penance brand last league and it was aight

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but it lost a lot of dmg

split palm
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I should not have looked at the fucking miami gp results

normal hedge
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esm made a omni kb deadeye with 400+ rarity

split palm
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that shit is depressing

timid sapphire
split palm
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now I am in a bad mood

cobalt blade
normal hedge
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idk never pobed it

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i was happy enough with 700m dps

cobalt blade
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fair

normal hedge
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if you spend some points in brand duration still fine ig

opaque sphinx
# timid sapphire 18% ms xdd

well yeah im not saying the whole build is insane just that it is a pob that does exist and uses wall of force effectively kek

timid sapphire
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wall has like very long cooldown

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so if he automates it

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it wont be up when it matters anyway

opaque sphinx
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thats the whole point of this

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50k ward makes it up

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cuz the cd is 0.35 secs

timid sapphire
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oh thats pretty good then

spice pecan
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and then they realized that basically doesnt work

frigid wedge
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ill make a proper one another time

opaque sphinx
timid sapphire
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thats like consistent 3-4b dps if he always has wall up

split palm
rancid seal
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guys ai is noob look ai dont know i dont do mechanics i stand still 🙂

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
cold sable
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how is it possible somone has a headhunter but its not a headhunter its a screams of the descesiated

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it looks like a headhunter

cobalt blade
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skin transfer

cold sable
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how

cobalt blade
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mtx buy it on the shop character tab

split palm
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

normal hedge
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is it per league?

normal hedge
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idk how it works

short prairie
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UHM what’s the ssf discord again? @split maple

cobalt blade
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need to buy one anytime u wanna skin transfer

normal hedge
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o

cobalt blade
normal hedge
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i see the vision now

cobalt blade
cold sable
cobalt blade
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no

split palm
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sometimes

cold sable
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just mtx ?

split palm
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I look at my safe

cobalt blade
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Yuh

cold sable
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lmao

split palm
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some day

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someone

cold sable
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must have been the wind ..

split palm
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will say something so stupid

timid crow
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oof, kudos to the mod team, killed that thing right quick

frigid wedge
split palm
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that there will be consequences

mental nymph
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Very

frigid wedge
split palm
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too few strands I feel like

frigid wedge
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theres an imprint pre elevate with 85

limpid prairie
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omg new build plan for dissolution of the flesh

split palm
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can you even use the imprint after woke

frigid wedge
split palm
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wait

timid sapphire
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if u have to lock slam as last step

frigid wedge
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they're different helmets shika

timid sapphire
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strands fuck u over

split palm
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no no

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I meant

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can you actually

frigid wedge
split palm
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huh

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I though if you add an influence it broke the imprint

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huh

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
split palm
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I know fracs them

frigid wedge
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well

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now 2

split palm
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bricks

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them

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a

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a

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aa

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I go sleep now

frigid wedge
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kk

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gn

split palm
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because my brain refuses to function

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good night

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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starting to look like ik wtf im doing

cobalt blade
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gn tho :3

frigid wedge
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i say with full knowledge flask slot 2 is deadge rn

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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need to anoint some max rage

limpid prairie
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you were talking about

devout shoal
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i wanna do bosses

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and its not fun with like 4m dps

cold sable
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wtf

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u can do that

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?!

devout shoal
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yeah self damage probably

limpid prairie
frigid wedge
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i just happened to replace my paradoxica with an identical foil

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maybe i should find actual % inc

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and attack speed

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hmmmmmmmmmmm

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definitely dont just need a lightning 12p with mana...

limpid prairie
frigid wedge
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why it look like a seal sat up

limpid prairie
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hahaha

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funny

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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front or side

cobalt blade
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side

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ish

frigid wedge
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I hate that i just closed my eyes to look at it

frigid wedge
mental nymph
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Or idk

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Just go for vulne ring and call it a day

cobalt blade
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kinda round that part

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just without hair

frigid wedge
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lul

limpid prairie
mental nymph
cold sable
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deadlock detected 🤖

cobalt blade
mental nymph
limpid prairie
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for bleeding mod need essences for DoT

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so hardly worth to do two influences

mental nymph
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Essences...with influence ?

frigid wedge
limpid prairie
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unless you find DoT on an influence

cobalt blade
cobalt blade
mental nymph
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Or is it simply

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Reforge phys ?

frigid wedge
limpid prairie
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only like 200 essences

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quick craft in and out

mental nymph
cobalt blade
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you can

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just cant fracture

spice pecan
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Why is my rice cooker so slow wtf

mental nymph
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I see I see

limpid prairie
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they restrictions but this isnt one of them

mental nymph
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Time to give it a go then

spice pecan
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I started it 5 mins before my curry and my curry is now done, and the rice cooker is still going Madge

mental nymph
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I have to make a life on block shield as well

cobalt blade
mental nymph
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But that's just reforge life so

cobalt blade
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would let you get possibly pre and suff you want

cobalt blade
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would prob end up with a better overall item but more expensive

mental nymph
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Might as well essence spam

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
mental nymph
cobalt blade
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ive done worse for influ crafts

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:p

mental nymph
frigid wedge
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can i just mention ive yolo awakened 2 diff gear pieces for this build and both have hit t1 int, its a sign O.0

mental nymph
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Spend around 26 divs

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Just to settle on T2

mental nymph
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And life Regen

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Aka no space for crafting bench

frigid wedge
mental nymph
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I think I did at least 3 gambas to save the item ass

cobalt blade
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borderline reasonable Pogott

mental nymph
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Excluding the Double elevation

frigid wedge
mental nymph
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It's not even 2 div cost

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What was the method ?

cobalt blade
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it wouldbe multiple div cost

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youd essence until you get to the t1 chaos res t1 life and cannot roll caster slam

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which is expensive lol

mental nymph
# cobalt blade lol

Thing is I should've settled for the first T2 speed I got with empty space for craft mod

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But no

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Got greedy

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
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real move is to go for essenced speed

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since its 18%

limpid prairie
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you can totally craft a 9 link helmet for mines

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isnt that true?

frigid wedge
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and what mines

limpid prairie
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im playin mines apparently

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life goes round and round and i found someone playing mines Jiqani int stacker

strange moon
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idk how anyone hits sub 4 fresh start its taken me 2 hours to get to the start of act 4 with a twink build

normal hedge
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arent you new

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thats normal, just gotta practice more

onyx adder
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Same answer as everyone else that takes 3 hours to do 2 acts

mental nymph
onyx adder
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U spend too much time in town

mental nymph
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Well 5 days since I use guide now

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But yeah

normal hedge
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lol

mental nymph
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Kinda yeah kek

limpid prairie
mental nymph
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It's always 3divs ish when I finish acts

strange moon
cobalt blade
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Rarity: Rare
Crafted Item
Archdemon Crown
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Quality: +20% (augmented)
Armour: 266 - 304
Energy Shield: 54 - 61
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Requirements:
Str: 79
Int: 79
Level: 75
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Item Level: 100
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+2 to Level of Socketed Skill Gems (implicit)
-2 to Level of Socketed Support Gems (implicit)
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Socketed Gems deal 30% more Elemental Damage
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Trap And Mine Damage
33% increased Mine Damage
Socketed Spells have +4% to Critical Strike Chance
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Concentrated Effect
23% increased Area Damage
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Increased Area of Effect
13% increased Area of Effect
10% increased Area of Effect
+2 to Level of Socketed AoE Gems
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Shaper Item
Elder Item
frigid wedge
normal hedge
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get down miss president

cobalt blade
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god damn thats more of a paragraph than i thought it would be

cobalt blade
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pre are all kinda dog

limpid prairie
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mmmh not bad

cobalt blade
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but you dont rly have better for pre

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less dura is apparently in the same group as 30% ele damage

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which i didnt actually know

strange moon
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tbf if i keep this pace i should shave about an hour a half of my last time

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
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ye

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but thats not 9 link

short prairie
frigid wedge
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yeah but surely this is still more practical

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than dead aoe supports on arc

limpid prairie
#

i mean we should go step by step

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why are we even arc mines

#

is this optimal?

frigid wedge
#

WAIT WAIT

frigid wedge
#

wait

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
#

we finally have a use case i think

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for

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for

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trap gloves

opaque sphinx
limpid prairie
frigid wedge
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nvm prefixes are still dog

opaque sphinx
#

bruh budget breach sucks

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good for xp but where da money

limpid prairie
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they totally have this gloves so that slot is kinda taken

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

last time i saw those used was blade trap affliction

frigid wedge
#

the only viable prefix is mana leech tho

limpid prairie
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+2 chain and mana leech to end then?

cobalt blade
#

isnt mana leech not useable

limpid prairie
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sounds like a stupid craft

opaque sphinx
#

is 92% currency enough

cobalt blade
#

since attacks

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

ye

frigid wedge
cobalt blade
frigid wedge
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bleh

timid sapphire
#

i do acts in like 7 hrs

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and still end day 1 with half a mirror

strange moon
timid sapphire
analog nest
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ragebait

limpid prairie
frigid wedge
#

yeahh nvm

strange moon
analog nest
timid sapphire
#

yeah i just craft fast selling shit day 1

frigid wedge
rancid sluice
#

crafting

timid sapphire
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and do some profitable gambles

limpid prairie
strange moon
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ah yeah got it makes sense

limpid prairie
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it could be ok middle budget maybe

frigid wedge
#

running a 6L

candid stag
#

Do you still have to level up your town in kingsmarch? Is it any good without any atlas nodes ? Or u must invest ? I haven’t been in there since 3.26. XD

timid sapphire
#

so yeah dont worry 2 much bout finishing acts in 3 hrs

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aslong as u dont take 10+ hrs ur chillin

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you just have to logout day 1 with some invesments

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aslong as u can manage that it all that matters

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cuz so much shit 2-3x in price

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over night

devout shoal
#

does quant matter for drops from syndicate members?

strange moon
limpid prairie
# frigid wedge have u considered just

Oh for now itll definitly be the only option im just creating castles on the air
Dunno if i will cap the build for now crafting clusters and changing equipment to mines has my hands full

strange moon
#

i just like to go faster so i can actually play the characters

timid sapphire
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if u just dont forget to spam ur movement skill

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and run a good skill for dmg

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anyone should be able to get decent time

frigid wedge
wheat sinew
#

Pogott sanctum runner almost setup

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now to get levels pepehappy

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and to sit in lab for an eternity for min pcharge jewels

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
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but your smart if your jiquanis since you have int

limpid prairie
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xdd shut up Naca im so upset
build sucks so much

cobalt blade
#

fair

limpid prairie
#

Im going back to fucking static strike ambush
you know how bad the QoL of that build is?

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its much better than this Jiqanis xd

#

so sad

cobalt blade
#

meow :3

short prairie
#

What’s wrong with girls discord

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

:D

cobalt blade
#

but also what do you actually mean by that depending on where you assume a comma is that can be read multiple ways

short prairie
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What’s, wrong, with, girls, discord

frigid wedge
short prairie
#

No I’m saying this is a girls discord now

frigid wedge
#

also i think the primary issue is that the 3 of us almost completely end up on top of each other if ur tryna make venn diagrams of it

cobalt blade
#

huh

cosmic eagle
#

excuse me?

frigid wedge
frigid wedge
short prairie
#

Gamba time

cobalt blade
frigid wedge
cobalt blade
#

absolutely how i read that at first and was highly confused

cobalt blade
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:3

inner prawn
cobalt blade
#

the gay thoughts cannot be escaped or smth

cobalt blade
#

real

opaque sphinx
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good enough for budget breach or no

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2x instability 2x monstrous 1x wisps

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and astrolabe

short prairie
#

Where bloodlines

cobalt blade
#

Should be fine would check if its worth pack size or currency chiseling depending on price

opaque sphinx
#

budget breach

cobalt blade
#

depending on how much currency that took u to roll

opaque sphinx
#

pack size is 95c was next question

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85*

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currency is 180 i immediately wrote it off

cosmic eagle
cobalt blade
#

Ye not worth then

opaque sphinx
cobalt blade
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(+actually since not miraged you'd want to split if you wanted to use those)

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and that's fucking miserable

short prairie
opaque sphinx
#

yeah i cba splitting maps

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made autobomber go fast

short prairie
#

Where your simplex and helical crafts

cosmic eagle
rancid seal
opaque sphinx
opaque sphinx
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i couldn't resist

limpid prairie
rancid seal
cobalt blade
#

not alot of mod combos that give that

short prairie
cobalt blade
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fairly important for 8 mod though since quite a bit more common lol

cobalt blade
limpid prairie
#

eh idk i feel rolling 90 is not that bad and its worth it
not like i ever look for pack size either though

opaque sphinx
#

i was literally just rolling for 90+ curr without reflect

cobalt blade
#

not reflect immune 🥀

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actually werent u mb cant you just flask suffix

opaque sphinx
#

wait a minute

limpid prairie
opaque sphinx
#

can hot even be reflect

cobalt blade
#

yes

opaque sphinx
#

aw

cobalt blade
#

Its still elemental damage

opaque sphinx
#

why's HoI get to be the favourite child

cobalt blade
#

wait actually can it? i think it can

#

uh

opaque sphinx
#

yeah there's no cannot be reflected on HoT like on HoI

cosmic eagle
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the only good girl i will pat basedcat

short prairie
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Gayge

cobalt blade
cosmic eagle
cobalt blade
#

wiki also says it can be reflected lol

opaque sphinx
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i would have to give up MS or curse immune for reflect immune

cobalt blade
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Went and checked

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curse immune could be corrupted unique jewels

short prairie
opaque sphinx
cobalt blade
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and honestly 70~% curse reductions fine

opaque sphinx
#

lone mess is cblood immune and stormshroud is res eff

cobalt blade
#

fair

opaque sphinx
#

i could technically vaal my clusters?

cobalt blade
#

Could get it on the reckless/double on lone

cosmic eagle
opaque sphinx
#

oh true didnt think about double on lone

cobalt blade
#

shouldnt be too expensive to mass vaal?

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/mass temple

opaque sphinx
#

yeah lone is dirt cheap

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i got cblood imm for 1d

cobalt blade
#

Holy

#

1 cluster lone reckless and maybe the block jewel or just playing 70~% reduc

opaque sphinx
#

brutal

cobalt blade
#

both are reasonable options for fitting reflect into flasks lol

opaque sphinx
#

gonna be a lot temples

#

think we do this after we make the amulet which will prob take all league

cobalt blade
#

oh should say im assuming thats replica reckless

#

otherwise not a valid spot to get implicit

opaque sphinx
#

it is ye

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still 3-4d for decent roll

#

not awful overall

cobalt blade
#

honestly more expensive than i was expecting for good roll+curse reduc

#

i guess more people realizing its a way to get that into builds with screams existing lmao

limpid prairie
#

other unique jewels might be cheaper as you dont have a roll on the implicits

cobalt blade
#

with kira already having some implicits and some of those being corrupt naturally

limpid prairie
#

what a pile

cobalt blade
#

and theee nightmare jewel being somewhat pricy iirc

limpid prairie
#

stormshroud and what i guess is lone messanger will be cheap

cobalt blade
#

Or dream jewel i confuse the arts

cobalt blade
#

which i did mention not being too expensive to temple lones :p

limpid prairie
#

ok ok

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but what about the timeless jewel

cobalt blade
#

reaal

limpid prairie
#

can we corrupt that one xd

cobalt blade
#

i was tempted to corrupt some of those for my own tbh

#

but felt wrong at 90-110d per lmao

limpid prairie
#

some numbers are repeted in trade and are cheap might be worth to get one less node for corrupt

cobalt blade
#

theres not alot of good es per power ones which i think kira was running

#

+reservation iirc

#

once your going for 3-4 nodes on the jewel you tend to only have 1-4 seeds

true falcon
#

Does Ailith die every breach?

split belfry
#

do you only get breach rewards based on enemies killed before it collapses?

short prairie
#

Yes

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If you deliberately kills her

spice pecan
#

also according to fubgun, killing more enemies on the edges of an unstable breach is better

#

dunno how verifiable that is tho

cobalt blade
#

like mine for example 63400 is the only 3 es per power within MoM impossible escape and then it also has crit multi +reservation

spice pecan
#

but apparently it matters a lot more when vruun spawns since you keep the breach open while clearing out the rest of the edge mobs?

cobalt blade
#

fairly relevant

spice pecan
#

well he mentioned that killing mobs near the center is like worthless compared to edge mobs

#

but i dont understand why the spawn location has anything to do with the loot

cobalt blade
#

yuh cos its acircle and the outer edge is more mobs than the middle

spice pecan
#

i know that

#

i'm talking specifically about the per-mob thing he was talking about

cobalt blade
#

If you mean like a breach spawning at the edge of a map its because you lose 1/3rd or so of the breach to it being eaten by the map edge

spice pecan
#

I dont think he had any qualifying statement like that

limpid prairie
bronze birch
#

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

spice pecan
#

it was basically "prioritize mobs on the edge, the mobs on the edge give more loot per mob than the center ones"

cobalt blade
#

huh

spice pecan
cobalt blade
#

i mean technically true from beyond honestly

#

But i feel like thats missing some context around it

spice pecan
#

yeah, i have no reason to doubt it, just weird how he worded it i guess

limpid prairie
#

I think the the statement is "the juice is on the edges more than in the center" or something

spice pecan
#

probably yeah

cobalt blade
#

basically just boils down to dont kill vruun/the 3-4 rares till you do edges

limpid prairie
#

hey if you have the clip we can know i guess

cobalt blade
#

dont rly need to know more than that lol

opaque sphinx
#

i wish swapping atlas tree also swap ur atlas

spice pecan
#

it's in his first breach vid from this league iirc

opaque sphinx
#

i got bored of breach but i astrolabed my dunes now im sad

cobalt blade
#

ohhh

#

i see

spice pecan
opaque sphinx
limpid prairie
#

yo splittin map tech lol

cobalt blade
#

Yuh

spice pecan
#

man splitting maps back in 3.14 was so funny

cobalt blade
#

Cant do it for enchanted(mirage) maps but its big for chisels

spice pecan
#

you could fracture conqueror maps, split them, and then remove the split tag

cobalt blade
#

if your profit crafting maps 100% worth it xd

spice pecan
#

haven't split a map since then SADGE

cobalt blade
#

i tried to do it last league for chisel maxing

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And just decided fuck chisels too miserable

limpid prairie
spice pecan
#

fucking same

#

hmm

#

can you fracturing fossil maps?

#

or can you only beast split

cobalt blade
#

Iirc you cant fracturing fossil special quality items

#

i know it has some weird restrictions to it compared to beast split

copper vale
#

I tried 20 maps and I barely break even

cobalt blade
#

You have to be doing it right and with properly rolled maps

#

if you dont you do genuinely get like 5+x less loot xd

split belfry
#

my first map with his budget setup ,_,

rancid sluice
#

ppl half ass a lot of stuff in the game and expect the same results tbh

cosmic eagle
#

they just slap astrolabe and forget everything not knowing some mods actually helps the juicing

cosmic eagle
#

it's the same with harvest, crying over 20k juice when the guide says 150k in 5 map

cobalt blade
#

Or they dont finish breaches properly and fuck up the astrolabe

cobalt blade
#

And if your minmaxing it properly running bad maps to cut them off etc

#

and even then rng can still fuck you

cosmic eagle
#

id say lubes is 1 of the best thing they added for the endgame

cobalt blade
#

i dont personally like thee aspect of it where its optimal to mouse over 4-6 maps after each map

#

but otherwise i like them

cobalt blade
#

on again harvest in particular it can make or break the astrolabe even being worth using since all your juice comes from getting good ones

limpid prairie
#

oh in harvest when you can choose right?

cobalt blade
#

Stabilise and close all Unstable Breaches to successfully complete Maps within this Shaped Region
Breach Monsters have increased Difficulty and Reward for each completed Map within the Shaped Region
Your Maps contain an additional unstable Breach

#

if you fail a breach in any map you dont progress this

#

your loot gets worse

cosmic eagle
#

and that's where the keystone comes in, if you are too lazy or just want to rush the vault that's the play, if you are 1 of the players that actually wants to juice and likes to minmax the content they want then you take it off and mouse over all the maps and look for mods

cobalt blade
#

since you explicitly want to fish for a map with good mods to keystone on

#

Which is my gripe with it

#

If every map always had the same mods it would be fine

cobalt blade
cosmic eagle
#

like i said if you are just a player that doesnt care about juicing and just want to rush for the vault rewards the keystone provides that route of gameplay

cobalt blade
#

Ye

#

but if your lazy its straight up not worth using specific astrolabes

bleak quiver
cobalt blade
#

its so bad

limpid prairie
#

templar astrolabe only has like quant and rarity?
maybe its low key the best astrolabe for keystone

bleak quiver
#

those are global mods

cobalt blade
#

Its the best for vault rushing

cosmic eagle
#

and then you have the kind of players that are lazy and picks the keystone and cries about how astrolabe are so trash and not helping the juice Despairge

cobalt blade
#

templar astrolabe has some weird ones tho that fuck over bad builds

#

"map boss is surrounded by tormented spirits"

#

xdd

cobalt blade
#

tbh it is fun for a bit to play the astrolabe game where you mouse over a bunch of maps but it gets tedious fast

#

pls just make the mods consistent next league kek

cosmic eagle
#

i did not expect maven, elder and dread spawning in my map with awake and terrors i thought it was just normal boss DESPAIR

limpid prairie
#

delirium astrolabe is so meh if you only want it for quant but you cant juice beyond with other mechanics

cosmic eagle
#

ill hold my judge on abyss, deli lubes until next league, they might add something to it or buff the existing content

bleak quiver
#

they need to do a major revamp of the mods

#

breach and harvest are the only ones with mods that are actually good

limpid prairie
#

im going to try abyss astrolabes actually their bonuses are quite good

bleak quiver
#

the rest are either marginal like deli, or completely worthless like the ulti one

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
#

which is actually pretty good

cosmic eagle
#

the content itself is meh that's the problem with abyss, if the abyss lube was present during the abyss bonanza during mercs oooh boy

bleak quiver
limpid prairie
#

abyss astrolabe beyong deli orb maps this is a good plan KEKw

bleak quiver
#

literally first time since the tree introduction that abyss was usable

cosmic eagle
#

yeah, that's why im gonna hold my judgement on abyss lube currently the content is so ass that it only holds purpose if you like farming corrupted abyss jewels, 85+ bases or depths

#

in short it's a snoozefest content

bleak quiver
#

hopefully they dont leave astrolabes to die like threads and actually update them

cobalt blade
#

but they just deleted hoardes left barrels everyone went back to fortress

cosmic eagle
#

nah they wont, the only thing that worries me is that they always shake the meta that they become the same with scarabs almost half of it are trash and not worth to run DESPAIR

limpid prairie
#

Do delirium atlas tree points work on deli orb maps

bleak quiver
#

some do

#

not all

#

very few to be more specific

devout shoal
#

what map is the best for farming betrayal?

limpid prairie
#

is unwavering vision worth if im block all the mechanics? it sounds like it could be

cosmic eagle
#

they will hear the warcries of SSF andys about scarab sustain will add STRONGBOX lobe
strongbox will reign supreme again in 3.29 xdd

cobalt blade
cosmic eagle
cobalt blade
#

(also cant add atziri frags)

limpid prairie
devout shoal
#

like crypt from a3 i think

cobalt blade
devout shoal
#

im running dunes though

cobalt blade
#

idk any frag ends up being better than the +20 points once u reach all points

cosmic eagle
bleak quiver
#

yes it is? wtf

#

tf are you smoking

limpid prairie
cobalt blade
#

ahhh x3

limpid prairie
#

i didnt notice that line thanks

#

cause i was about to open a map look at beautiful tree

cobalt blade
#

i think it warns you when you goto open it :p

cosmic eagle
#

you can copy lance that dude farmed betrayal in atoll for 400-600 times in ssf forgot the exact number for 8 cards

short prairie
#

How’s abyss profitable nowadays

bleak quiver
#

it isnt

cobalt blade
#

astrolabe vault

#

the abyss itself gives nothing

limpid prairie
#

doing beyond with abyss

#

you could do breach

bleak quiver
#

i tried, dsnt work

limpid prairie
#

but that would be agood farming strategy

short prairie
#

UHM sad thing is, I need to get abyss uniques

bleak quiver
#

abyss density is pathetic

short prairie
#

So I prob still have to do em at some point

bleak quiver
#

they do spawn a lot of blue guys tho

cosmic eagle
#

i actually tried abyss with boxes, since i noticed abyss spawns random boxes, too bad they dont spawn operatives out the wazoo

cobalt blade
bleak quiver
limpid prairie
#

what do mirage abysses drop?

#

did they give them anything?

cobalt blade
#

i think its stygians with increased jewel effect

bleak quiver
#

belts with a very shit mod

cobalt blade
#

dont think theres anything else

#

its a good mod just powercrept by cord belt in the same league

cosmic eagle
#

mirage abyss spawns boxes

cobalt blade
#

if cord belt wasnt a thing it would get at the cost of being a painful as fuck influence craft

short prairie
cosmic eagle
#

i think the spire does that shit

short prairie
#

Back to its glory?

limpid prairie
cosmic eagle
#

like i said too bad it does not spawn operatives inside mirage but random boxes instead

limpid prairie
#

screams of the desecrated annoint belt and stygan vises

#

someone had to lose and of course it was abyss

cobalt blade
#

yuuh

bleak quiver
#

Can randomly spawn shrines, strongboxes, and tormented spirits around the pit holy abyss is saved

cosmic eagle
#

small shrines like half the duration

#

strongboxes is a strong one but yeah it's random as fuck the best box they spit on me while farming 85+ bases was diviners

bleak quiver
#

cant make too good

#

otherwise abyss will overtake the meta obviously

cosmic eagle
#

i forgot if you actually get depths inside mirage

limpid prairie
#

descending sucks takes half an hour to kill the boss

#

more phases than sirus

bleak quiver
short prairie
#

The reopen boxes scarabs are so useless

#

They never reopen the good boxes

cosmic eagle
#

more like strongboxes without idols is trash

idle talon
#

man i know this aint the place for it but i have to say this because its making me blow up. So im enjoying D4 in the poe downtine right ? i play the endgame, i progress D4's atlas tree equivilant. I go to try out a second guy. I find out the atlas tree is character specific. My other character literally has to reprogress the atlas tree

#

what the f man

lean urchin
#

they are noobs to arpgs, give them time

#

game is free

cosmic eagle
#

and people still pay premium for that game everytime it shits out expansion

cobalt blade
#

that sounds awful

cosmic eagle
#

i watched dm review about the new expansion, apparently the 3rd tree is locked behind the expansion

hard cliff
#

They are on Steam now cause battle.net just fell off so hard

#

that's funny

#

In the end Gabe is inevitable

devout shoal
#

ok now that my safehouses are all ready i now get 2 encounters way more commonly

#

do i have to do safehouses now and release the ones with 5 or what

idle talon
# cobalt blade d4 tree equivalent is character specific? wtf

Granted their atlas tree equvilant is a lot smaller in size and scope, they're still pretty cool on their own. So they're faster to progress. But still, it takes time. It's unbelievable. I actually cannot fking beleive it. fix the fking game man wtf

devout shoal
#

i was getting 3 per map almost always when i didnt have full safehouses

cosmic eagle
#

its amazing you know about 5522 and yet you still dont know which safehouses can be farmed between those 4