1┃general

[timid sapphire]

i was making 2-3 a day rolling eyes week 1

[white radish]

Can someone explain the "love" for momentum support with shield charge? As near as I can tell, using SC resets your momentum stacks, yet I see it suggested in builds all the time.

[timid sapphire]

ur rolling it wierd that

cuz its very consistent money

its almost impossible to dry streak

[normal hedge]

you have the effect while u're charging

[split palm]

I am lucky like that

[cobalt blade]

You also get 15% movement speed from losing the stack

[opaque sphinx]

u dont get full effect but any effect that gives u more as/ms while charging is a net gain

[split palm]

shrimple as that

[timid sapphire]

unlike rolling gems where u could go 3 quads of squids with no ms

[cobalt blade]

Move speed makes shield charge faster

[white radish]

Gotcha, thanks.

[timid sapphire]

rolling eyes its impossible to dry streak

worst i had is losing like 100d lol

in dry streak

on eyes

[opaque sphinx]

just do what i do and throw it all at harvest bench

then u lose everything and don't have to do it anymore

[timid sapphire]

if i wanted to big dick gamba

id just throw awakened exceptionals in temple

atleast thats profitable ...

[opaque sphinx]

make me a +2 dura +1 socketed shavs

[livid quarry]

i thought the point of flipping and profit crafting was so that i dont have to play the game much

[timid sapphire]

eww who tf dc shavs

[opaque sphinx]

[frigid wedge]

dc some hateforges 4 me

[timid sapphire]

is that a miner ?

for bossing ?

[opaque sphinx]

hot

[bleak quiver]

hot

[frigid wedge]

frenzy is 200d

[opaque sphinx]

Hotcultist with splodey clusters

[timid sapphire]

temples is good money but id never run it for pure profit

its alot of effort

tho if i need some double corrupt my self

[bleak quiver]

flipped a lot of those this league

[split palm]

hi sans

[timid sapphire]

id corrupt it my self

[frigid wedge]

hi shika

[slate compass]

Went from a immortal to the next one only to poof it

classic

[bleak quiver]

actually flipped a lot of ulti loot tbf, thanks to rue a lot of clueless were doing it

[timid sapphire]

milking rue viewers is a classic

[bleak quiver]

printed a lot of luminous troves, about 30x malediction helms for 20c

[split palm]

nah

cain is delusional

[opaque sphinx]

yer rue viewers are the new pohx viewers

[split palm]

actually delusional xd

[opaque sphinx]

anyone who watches that monkey got 2iq and easy to profit off

[timid sapphire]

i still remember when rue plays coc dd

[frigid wedge]

honestly might try pure trialmaster farming

[timid sapphire]

and id sell swords where i click attack speed essence once and craft crit

nothing else

[bleak quiver]

the ralakesh incident is peak poe

[cobalt blade]

glimpse of chaos are funny flips tbh

[timid sapphire]

and that would sell for 1d

entire day 1

[cobalt blade]

so many people dont check the inplicit value lol

[timid sapphire]

that was so dumb

[opaque sphinx]

60d gloves for a mirror

[split palm]

real

[timid sapphire]

i mean its a bit more than 60d

[opaque sphinx]

not a ton more no

[cobalt blade]

Yeah its like 69d

[split palm]

not really much

[opaque sphinx]

if u get unlucky on frac sure

otherwise no its stupid cheap

[cobalt blade]

the entire cost is in that being double exquisite which is unnecessary

lol

(if i remember values right*

[split palm]

yes

[timid sapphire]

those prefixes with abyssal socket sounds cancer to make

[opaque sphinx]

no

[split palm]

uh, no.

[opaque sphinx]

abyssal socket into slam slam

[timid sapphire]

cuz u would need to hit those prefix with only eldrich currency

[opaque sphinx]

chaos repeat

slam slam

[split palm]

it's just a sink

[opaque sphinx]

chaos repeat slam slam

[cobalt blade]

^^

[opaque sphinx]

take like 30d to hit triple t1 that way

[split palm]

like you just get socket, reforge life, cope for t1

[cobalt blade]

You could hit it within maybe 30-50d with a bit of luck

[opaque sphinx]

its not super uncommon

[timid sapphire]

it seems way more than 60d in eldrich currency 🤔

to hit 3x t1 prefix

[opaque sphinx]

no

[bleak quiver]

its not even divined right

[split palm]

or just slam the life with resonator

[cobalt blade]

your using regular exalts

[opaque sphinx]

they are 1k weight each

[split palm]

btw someone bought the gloves

[timid sapphire]

its the eldrich anulls

[opaque sphinx]

its not a weapon with 50 weight per mod

[cobalt blade]

1 chaos (and maybe some annuls) every once and a while

[timid sapphire]

also no u cant use regular exalts

u need open suffix

[cobalt blade]

Ye you dont annul constantly tho

[cobalt blade]

multi mod

congratulations you have an empty suffix and can exalt

[timid sapphire]

oh ya true true

[cobalt blade]

(or really any craft multi mod is just funny)

[timid sapphire]

but still both exalts

are same price anw

[opaque sphinx]

yer

overall i can't see it costing over 100d even with giga shit luck

[frigid wedge]

don't u literally get 200 ex per div atm

[cobalt blade]

Yeah

But it could cost 200d to make double exquisite lol

[opaque sphinx]

yeah that part could

[cobalt blade]

When double exquisite does nothing there

[timid sapphire]

i could 100% see those gloves selling for like 200

mby 300 with implicits

pretty sure fub used em too

in his bv

so demand is there

[opaque sphinx]

i can see it selling for that sure, im just saying its ridiculous and cheap to make

[timid sapphire]

tho idk if he used shocked

[cobalt blade]

A mirror is psychotic 200-300 ye for sure

[timid sapphire]

yeah a mirror is omega cope

even swipers arent that dumb

man i miss old trade

interacting with swipers was so funny

"hold up bro getting divines"

classic

[bleak quiver]

this league was infested with them

never seen so many

[opaque sphinx]

ggg should put bait items on the market
shit like those gloves that are decent, but then price them stupid high
and when someone shows up to buy them it just says no and goes "swiper no swiping"
and then they get a temp ban

[cobalt blade]

i miss the odd talk with someone questioning why the fuck you have 2 tabs of replica dream feathers

[timid sapphire]

i once sold 2mirr mb to a swiper

[cobalt blade]

or some other unique you mass corrupted

still happens but waaay less often now sadly

[timid sapphire]

dude legit said "wait my friend give me 2 mirrors"

[ebon hatch]

other than squire, is there any item that can provide socketed support gems to the main hand?

[cobalt blade]

corrupted implicits and explicits on item?

otherwise theres also cruelty from saresh ascend

[bleak quiver]

the new bloodline

[ebon hatch]

no, particularly socketed gems, physically

[opaque sphinx]

then nur

[cobalt blade]

for main hand no

[normal hedge]

just for body armour

[opaque sphinx]

amulet works on chest

[timid sapphire]

there is a few corrupts

but they are on 2h

[opaque sphinx]

he saisd no

[normal hedge]

thats not what hes asking

🥀 miss my 6link squire

[timid sapphire]

i made so much money

that day

crafting 6l shields

[opaque sphinx]

are u tryna make some dual wield weapon build that uses shaper/ex claw?

[timid sapphire]

it was a good day

[opaque sphinx]

otherwise i dont get why u need this

[cobalt blade]

i made a 4 link crown lol

[frigid wedge]

oh that shit

[timid sapphire]

yea crowns where good too

[cobalt blade]

that was my personal favourite of the bugged items

[timid sapphire]

i was spamming arm stacker swords

and shields

• squire

after they fixed the bug

[cobalt blade]

there was also 6 link quivers

[timid sapphire]

i was selling 6l dream feathers for 50-100 each

[opaque sphinx]

i missed this bug what was that

[timid sapphire]

i had so many quas of em

[cobalt blade]

You literally couldnt get that

it was based on item size

[timid sapphire]

beast craft

[opaque sphinx]

ye but when

[timid sapphire]

that let u put 6 sockets and 6 link em

[opaque sphinx]

this leg?

[timid sapphire]

i think it was necro ?

[opaque sphinx]

oh

[normal hedge]

necro

[cobalt blade]

few leagues ago

[opaque sphinx]

makes sense why i did not notice

[gritty garnet]

who knew max sockets meant max sockets

[opaque sphinx]

was busy making coffin items

[timid sapphire]

necro was a movie for me (and i didnt even finish my build cuz i wanted 15 perfect adorned jewels)

i hit 150 and 149 adorned day 2

[gritty garnet]

I pretty much skipped necro since I didn't enjoy the original harvest placement thing

[timid sapphire]

that league

[cobalt blade]

Saaame

[opaque sphinx]

if u wanted to make money in std necro was the absolute bis league

[cobalt blade]

i made like 8 adorned jewels and said fuck this and quit

[timid sapphire]

yeah i fell that

[normal hedge]

it didn’t last very long from what i remember, but having 16 links was pretty fun

[strange moon]

is there a faster way to reset gem level?

[timid sapphire]

i gave up when redviles pushed vw to 10d each ot what ever it was

[opaque sphinx]

so many fractured influence items and all my fractured %mana helms are worth like a mir each now

[cobalt blade]

orb of regret+ vendor

or scouring to go down by 1

[strange moon]

regret is a ful reset?

[cobalt blade]

Ye

[timid sapphire]

i spent like 40m on jewels alone that league and never finished my build cuz i was seeking perfection 😔

[opaque sphinx]

ye its backward for gems for some reason

[timid sapphire]

and now my double attributes crit multi jewels are rotting in std

well i acc sold most

[opaque sphinx]

scour should full clean but is -1
regret should be -1 but is full reset

[timid sapphire]

but still money lose

[opaque sphinx]

because reasons

[split palm]

there is no way this sells

cain is delusional

[opaque sphinx]

it will

[native abyss]

id buy that

[timid sapphire]

thats a rly good helmet

[split palm]

it is literally

slam slam

[timid sapphire]

for 1m flat its decent deal

[split palm]

with a fracture 1 in 4

[tranquil umbra]

honestly the most insane part of swipers is the fact that they trust whatever service they use to not use their shit for nefarious purposes

[normal hedge]

no quant = trash

[opaque sphinx]

nah reforge minion slam slam

[timid sapphire]

30 qual lich with frac 5% pdr

[split palm]

you frac +2 = win

[timid sapphire]

takes alot of money to hit

[split palm]

and just spam essence

[opaque sphinx]

u dont frac +2

[cobalt blade]

makes sense to me you have to fracture rhe delve pdr

thats worth a mirror

[opaque sphinx]

^

its delve mod not ess

[split palm]

wait, delve pdr, thought it was essence tbh

[bleak quiver]

that helm fucks

[split palm]

fair

[cobalt blade]

pretty sure its delve or temple

definitely not ess

[opaque sphinx]

and +2 min u can force with harvest so fraccing that is a waste

[timid sapphire]

well u could recraft same helm for way less than 1m

if u didnt care for 30 qual

[opaque sphinx]

yeah ofc

[ebon hatch]

oh wait we can’t quality up any existing items anymore, yikes, betrayal quality is gone, now only lucky drop right?

[split palm]

yeah, delve

[cobalt blade]

at 30 qual eeh

non 30 for sure

[split palm]

at 30 qual just win the frac

[timid sapphire]

yeah 30 qual with that frac is 1m+ to make

[opaque sphinx]

its still prob like a 200-300d craft

[timid sapphire]

or prolly around there

idk hm 30 qual liches are

might be cheap this league

[opaque sphinx]

oh

[split palm]

it's a stupidly easy craft after delve pdr

[timid sapphire]

cuz alo of 30 quals drop from breach

[opaque sphinx]

its only 25

for 30 qual lich

[split palm]

frac pdr

[timid sapphire]

oh ya nvm 1m defo not worth

[split palm]

eldritch currency

reforge minion 1 in 12

or 1 in 11

don't remember exact odds

it's super easy to make tbh

[timid sapphire]

reforge minion ????

[cobalt blade]

oh nvm then

[split palm]

yes silly

[cobalt blade]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

yeah u just reforge minion on helm to force

[cobalt blade]

crystallized rancour op

you roll for pre and reforge minion pray repeat

[timid sapphire]

ahh its new craft

[split palm]

similarly annoying

[opaque sphinx]

its like 200d on avg for suffixes

after that maybe 50d

[split palm]

it's not

[opaque sphinx]

so 200-300d craft

[cobalt blade]

i assume you mean pre

[split palm]

it's not expensive for suffixes

[cobalt blade]

suffixes are not 200d outside of frac

lol

[split palm]

prefixes are just

spam

[opaque sphinx]

THE FRAC IS WHAT I MEAN

[split palm]

honestly

[timid sapphire]

double res is dirt cheap

[opaque sphinx]

it is a suffix

and it is included

[cobalt blade]

prefixes i think youd spend close to 250-300d on tho

[opaque sphinx]

nah

[split palm]

prefixes are not expensive

you fill suffixes

[cobalt blade]

you have to roll for es pre cant be change and take the 1/12 each time

[split palm]

the only bad part is 1 in 12

[opaque sphinx]

why its 1/12

[split palm]

or 11

idk

[opaque sphinx]

what other minion mods are there

[split palm]

none

[opaque sphinx]

besides gems

[cobalt blade]

Weight kira

[split palm]

t1 vs t2

[timid sapphire]

well u still gt hit double t1 es

after that 1/12

[cobalt blade]

25 weight vs whatever the +1 minion is

[split palm]

I actually wanted to make those with the temple mod

[cobalt blade]

I think getting double t1 es 10-12 times is gonna cost 250~ odd div worth of fossils+the reforges

[split palm]

before realizing it's worthless for me

[opaque sphinx]

yeh 1/11 u right

for minion not him

[split palm]

got it on the base even

[opaque sphinx]

might be cheaper to reforge minion till hit t1 and then slam

[split palm]

sadly no good suffixes were there for me to work with

[split palm]

no

[opaque sphinx]

why not

[split palm]

slam slam is aids

[opaque sphinx]

rancours are piss cheap

[split palm]

so?

t1 es es aren't

[timid sapphire]

u would prolly get double t1 es and then ref minion

[split palm]

I'd rather reforge cope annul

[timid sapphire]

doing other way aroun makes no sense

[split palm]

honestly

[timid sapphire]

can use fossils then or just reforge defence

[split palm]

the gloves not having a fracture

are kind of silly

[cobalt blade]

yup^^

[split palm]

idk what caused me not fracturing it tbh

[cobalt blade]

reforge minion till you get double t1 es and t1 minion is not happening reasonably

Remember kira ita fractured so you cant attempt to strand upgrade

[opaque sphinx]

nah i said roll for one and slam other

[split palm]

no

that is stupid

[cobalt blade]

You just have to fuckin hit it on your reforges/slams compared to going for 11 tries

[opaque sphinx]

also was just a showerthought i didn't actually look into the numbers at all

[cobalt blade]

(and you can get the 1/3 annul)

[split palm]

that's a roughly 1 in 50 slam

40*

typo

vs a 1 in 11 reforge

checked

you just spam reforge defences, or chaos, or whatever till double t1

annul prefix if need be

lock pref reforge minion

[opaque sphinx]

yes and if a reforge costs more than 5 slams that makes it worth it

[split palm]

what

it's a 1 in 40

to slam

in the end

after a 1 in 12

[opaque sphinx]

im not high enough i assumed u had to lock suffixes for some reason

[split palm]

that's pure aids

[opal ingot]

25d for just 6m gold

wth

[split palm]

you want the shitty odds first

and the better ones later

[opaque sphinx]

gimme a min to smoke and reset my brain

[split palm]

addict

https://tenor.com/view/maomao-disgusted-apothecary-maomao-anime-disgust-the-apothecary-diaries-apothecary-diaries-gif-277569285267881835

[opaque sphinx]

do u take anti depressents, anti anxiety, or adhd meds?

if so, ur an addict too

[native abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-troupe-path-of-exile-poe-mtx-gif-10719513272554826496

[split palm]

no

I don't

[opaque sphinx]

well fuck u for being a healthy well-adjusted individual

[split palm]

I only take the occasional painkiller for headache, if I happen to get it

or toothache

ibu/paracetamol/spasmalgon

[opaque sphinx]

what about coffee

[split palm]

not really

[opaque sphinx]

damn wtf

[split palm]

I function on 6 hours of sleep

with NO caffeine

[opaque sphinx]

i get 4-6 but i don't function

and i need 3 coffees

[split palm]

shrimply an issue of skill

[cobalt blade]

i dont function without tea

lol

[split palm]

pretty sure

black tea

[opaque sphinx]

sometimes i do swap coffee for tea, got an orange pekoe beside me atm

[cobalt blade]

Yuh :3

[split palm]

had more caffeine than some coffee

[cobalt blade]

it does

[split palm]

drinks

xd

I prefer green tea tbh

[cobalt blade]

I used to drink 10+ cups a day but cut it down to 5-7

[opaque sphinx]

jesus

[cobalt blade]

it was alot of caffeine

[native abyss]

love coffee

[opaque sphinx]

i drink 3 extra larges and ppl already tell me im cracked

[split palm]

even have a stupidly expensive tea set from china

[opaque sphinx]

on 7 i would literally be vibrating

[split palm]

like clay pot

from some expensive clay whatever

and the cups are like super small

[devout shoal]

7 caches in the mirage and 0 blueprints

ive got 1 good blueprint out of 150ish maps i ran today

[split palm]

the set was 10k usd

[opaque sphinx]

what the fuck

shika do u need a sugar baby

[split palm]

no

[opaque sphinx]

damn

[split palm]

I am happily married and have children

or one child

you will not know

[opaque sphinx]

judging by the law of numbers that is the perfect time to have a sugar baby

[split palm]

live without that knowledge

[plucky rivet]

how do i get that node .. heart of destruction

[cobalt blade]

you have to take rhe node before it

[split palm]

I know your name

don't record like that please

just alt tab or something

[livid quarry]

i thought u were in ur 20s with the anime obession

[split palm]

change your windows name

whatever

[opaque sphinx]

the fact that this exists hurts me

[split palm]

that's what happens when you worked for a three letter equivalent agency for a bit

[opaque sphinx]

who the fuck and why

[cobalt blade]

Someone definitely didnt realize it was double influ buying that hat

[split palm]

you just learn how to become someone else on the internet

OOF

[opaque sphinx]

u needed to work for a company to learn that?

[split palm]

I did not see that either

[timid sapphire]

hey thats misha xd

[opaque sphinx]

when they introduced the internet like the first thought was "oh my god i can be somebody else fuck yeah"

[split palm]

not really

[cobalt blade]

his account is 3917

[timid sapphire]

dude makes amr stacker items each leaue for services and swipes to russians

[split palm]

but splitting irl personality from internet persona is not as easy as many people think

[cobalt blade]

Or sorry ,3761*

got some numbers wrong double checked

[timid sapphire]

acc wait might not even be misha

its mike

[cobalt blade]

love looking at the stupid shit he makes

[timid sapphire]

not mikele or what ever his name was

mike is sum1 else

[cobalt blade]

Mikle

[livid quarry]

u sound like a spy

[split palm]

not really xd

[opaque sphinx]

nothing to see here, comrade

[livid quarry]

[cobalt blade]

if u spend too much time with one it starts to become ur main personality :3

[split palm]

I wouldn't say I did that kind of work if I were one

would I?

[split palm]

no

[opaque sphinx]

aiight back to poe how do i get more aoe

https://pobb.in/ZCx2PImBS-ss

[split palm]

you will not believe me, but I have entirely different personalities across different discord servers xd

[opaque sphinx]

if u say swap to ele i will stab u

[split palm]

swap to ele

[timid sapphire]

by not running shaper of storms

[opaque sphinx]

[timid sapphire]

get elementalists aoe ff set

[split palm]

i fucking dare you

[timid sapphire]

and swap adorned ?

[opaque sphinx]

then my build does not work

its herald of thunder

[split palm]

I wonder

[opaque sphinx]

i need to shock

[timid sapphire]

u can get better mediums

[split palm]

does getting stabbed feel different from being shot

[cobalt blade]

bro didnt take my suggestion of brush with death on cluster for es on kill ):

[timid sapphire]

aoe per power charge and aoe on kill

[opaque sphinx]

that is on the suggestion list

[timid sapphire]

with aoe implicit

[split palm]

synth aoe on jewels

[cobalt blade]

synth and corrupted aoe

[split palm]

or was it corrupt

[cobalt blade]

both

[split palm]

don't remember

[opaque sphinx]

right now im using ghost reaver while levelling so i dont need brush

[timid sapphire]

high key just go voices with adorned

[opaque sphinx]

but later will make it prob

[timid sapphire]

and swap mediums

[cobalt blade]

youd have to go megalos then tho cos unspeakable gifts

and thats entering pricy territory

[opaque sphinx]

my larges are all unspeakable gift ye

popop

[split palm]

i love new clusters ngl

you can do so much silly stuff with them

[opaque sphinx]

also what would i swap on clusters

[cobalt blade]

same

I rly hope they keep fogs

its such a cool item

maybe limit the cast speed/atk speed mods to one group but god its so good

[timid sapphire]

i hope they keep new vaal orb

[opaque sphinx]

envoy is lots dmg and messenger is aoe+dmg

[cobalt blade]

Ye same that ones also rly fun

[timid sapphire]

that one is actually cool

[split palm]

fogs, vvaal are amazing

[opaque sphinx]

i guess i could swap envoy for vast power?

but thats like 5% dps loss per

[split palm]

can throw both into delve if mirage doesn't stay tbh

[timid sapphire]

bro just go mediums

[split palm]

or delve and simu rather

[timid sapphire]

with power charge aoe

and aoe on kill

[split palm]

delve for vvaal

[timid sapphire]

swap adorned

and u have aoe 4 days

[opaque sphinx]

THATS WHAT IM ASKING

[split palm]

simu for frogs

[timid sapphire]

it aint that deep

[opaque sphinx]

what on my mediums to do i drop

[timid sapphire]

you go power charge aoe

and on kill aoe

on every sngle one

[opaque sphinx]

swapping to double aoe cluster loses me loike 7% dps per cluster

and i already only do 20m

[timid sapphire]

if u swap adorned

u get back dps

just get good jewels

[opaque sphinx]

men adorned is like a mirror

[timid sapphire]

cant u be cheap af and get like 97%

cant be hat big diff

[opaque sphinx]

100d

not that bad

can farm it

[timid sapphire]

well u still need jewels with t1 multi implicit minimum

[cobalt blade]

what about women adorned

[opaque sphinx]

2 mir

[timid sapphire]

but those r prolly cheap

[cobalt blade]

holy

[heavy quail]

So question, What Stash tabs I can get for 40 Coins (30 During Sale) thats is useful?

[surreal mulch]

85% is affordable

[heavy quail]

There is so much tabs at that price range

[timid sapphire]

85% is too ghetto

[opaque sphinx]

also im not sure i can adorned swap

[timid sapphire]

100d is alr dirt cheap

[opaque sphinx]

there's so many uniq jewel i need

[timid sapphire]

u go voices ?

well maybe swapping 8p clusters for voices is kinda scuffed conciering u cant afford 100 adorned

ur proly not getting 1p too

[opaque sphinx]

3 passive voice is 120d ea

[cobalt blade]

what do you currently have

[timid sapphire]

and swappint to 3p is kinda scuffed

[opaque sphinx]

yer

man if i didnt gamba all my mists i would have decent money rn

reemind me never do that again

[timid sapphire]

cant u like

not use those rings

[opaque sphinx]

no

they are necessaary to play HoT

[timid sapphire]

didnt rue play auto bomber this league

[cobalt blade]

because for all the 40 point tabs it rly depends on what your farming like if you do essence essence tab is mandatory same for delve or blight(tho oils can be stored fine in currency tab it just uses all your extra slots)

[plucky rivet]

someone carry me through sanctum

[opaque sphinx]

no idea anything with his name on it i instantly disregard

[opaque sphinx]

just buy a lvl 69 one

[devout shoal]

guys i think i got banned from getting experimented item blueprints

[cobalt blade]

they are mandatory for hot autobomber specifically

[karmic gust]

shavs in 2026 ☠️

[opaque sphinx]

i cleared it on a lvl 80 HoT character

[cobalt blade]

you can still herald of the hive auto bomb without them

[plucky rivet]

i need lycia bloodline for my witch

[devout shoal]

20 mirage blueprints and none are experimented bases

[timid sapphire]

why

his pobs aint bad

[opaque sphinx]

yes thats literally what i just dod

[opaque sphinx]

he is tho

shit person shit takes

[cobalt blade]

^

[opaque sphinx]

deserves no fame

[timid sapphire]

rue is prety funny idk

[plucky rivet]

wym buy a lvl 69 ?

[opaque sphinx]

funny doesnt make up for being a scumbag

[karmic gust]

he also doesnt know how to make poison builds bad person for sure

[timid sapphire]

usually my goto backround content on ls

[karmic gust]

[timid sapphire]

what did he even do

[opaque sphinx]

tomes have levels, a lvl 69 tome has lvl 69 mobs and is very easy

lvl 68 is the lowest but it costs 3d

69 costs like 1

[karmic gust]

was being creep to some twitch streamer or something

[timid sapphire]

ok hear me out

u lose dps on mediums

[karmic gust]

idk

[cobalt blade]

ye and in general is kinda just toxic

[livid quarry]

harassed a girl and asked for pics from her repeatedly told to stop iirc

[timid sapphire]

but u get focused

[opaque sphinx]

acts like a creep to girls
makes shit comments online
acts like a general incel and is just overall toxic

[timid sapphire]

and mist it

[livid quarry]

forgot the make shit comments part

[timid sapphire]

surely u can afford to make a good focused amulet

or simplex

doesnt matter cuz u would run multi + gems

[karmic gust]

cant you just get explode somewhere else and not use shavs

and use corruscating instead

[dark kite]

god its so annoying that scarabs in the map device are character-based

[karmic gust]

expplody chest + corruscating

[opaque sphinx]

was in a duo stream with jung and they were watching emiru
she said something in the stream about how some dude creeped her out
rue instantly goes "yeah ur a bitch this why u deserve to have guys try to forcibly kiss you all the time"
or something along those lines

even jung was just like "wtf dude" and instantly left the chat/stream

[livid quarry]

omg

[cobalt blade]

o btw kira empy is apparently playing hot autobomber now lmfao

non zero chance your items get price hiked

[opaque sphinx]

motherfker

[full fossil]

he is.

[opaque sphinx]

every time

thank god i got all my items now for the most part

[full fossil]

are you elementalist with heat shiver?

[karmic gust]

hes not playing ll tho right

i think

[opaque sphinx]

no

[timid sapphire]

empy makes some of the worst builds

[cobalt blade]

yeah its different setup

[cobalt blade]

he doesnt make builds

[opaque sphinx]

i saw the ele version and went fuck that i want something with a tiny bit of tank

[cobalt blade]

he just plays ones he thinks look interesting

[timid sapphire]

i never seen a good empy pob

even if he takes an alr good build

he manages to make it worse

[opaque sphinx]

https://pobb.in/ZCx2PImBS-ss

[karmic gust]

i mean what you have doesnt have tank either i just wouldnt bother trying :d

[timid sapphire]

like personally nothing against empy

[karmic gust]

just kill stuff fast ez

[timid sapphire]

but his builds suck

[cobalt blade]

nah their pretty good just not all rounders

more mappers

lol

[opaque sphinx]

its 9k phys max, 45k eles and 65/75 block

sure its not a beefcake

but as far as HoT goes thats a brick wall

[timid sapphire]

i mean he takes a good mapper build, but puts his own twist on it and makes it worse

[opaque sphinx]

i couldnt find a single HoT pob that did over 10 mil and had more than like 5k phys max and 20k ehp

unless it cost like 4 mir

[timid sapphire]

kira did u see my earlier msg

ge a focused amulet

and swap mediums

[opaque sphinx]

i cant

[cobalt blade]

btw why not run the recover on block staff mastery

[opaque sphinx]

i need the res efficiency on the dragonfang

[timid sapphire]

cant u get it back from jewels ?

[opaque sphinx]

cuz its only spell block

[timid sapphire]

double corrupt ur mediums

[cobalt blade]

yeah thats still broken

[opaque sphinx]

the inc dmg seemed more worth it

[timid sapphire]

for reservation

[cobalt blade]

you have 2 staff masterys kira

[karmic gust]

when i import this its 5.7k es

[timid sapphire]

getting 10% isnt hard

just 5 jewels

[opaque sphinx]

yes and one is global def

i valued that over the on block

could be wrong play but i wanted more max hit

[opaque sphinx]

the timeless

arent all allocated

[cobalt blade]

is tha actually necesary

[opaque sphinx]

yes

i have cwdt cracklance hextouch

to apply shock/curse

[cobalt blade]

ah fair

[karmic gust]

ah ok that looks a bit better

[timid sapphire]

do you need damage recouped as mana ?

[karmic gust]

still think hybrid setup would be tankier

[timid sapphire]

mastery

u can swap it for rmr too

[opaque sphinx]

it would but i really really wanted to farewell to flesh

[karmic gust]

mostly because shavs is just turbo doghsit

[timid sapphire]

like so many ways to get 10% rmr

[opaque sphinx]

i tried every other possible way and this ended up being best

u ant use foulborn esh shield

[cobalt blade]

oh i see why its unallocating

[opaque sphinx]

annhilating is a must or u do zdps

[cobalt blade]

your MoM jewel is in cluster

which doesnt actually work but pob is getting confused and thinks it does but deletes it on import

[opaque sphinx]

and if u use annhilating ur basically forced to shavs or to be at 55% life and use calamity

[cobalt blade]

which is also why the circle doesnt show lol

[karmic gust]

or coruscating

[opaque sphinx]

I REFUSE

[frigid wedge]

what are we arguing about

[karmic gust]

shavs bad

[opaque sphinx]

it is bad

its shit

but its my only real option

[frigid wedge]

use LL bypass body

sorted

[cobalt blade]

its farewell to flesh

[opaque sphinx]

^

[cobalt blade]

full life reserved by herald

[karmic gust]

you should probs at least run the discipline spectre or something

[frigid wedge]

thats still 50% more tho?

[opaque sphinx]

burn all minions

[frigid wedge]

even if u go LL bypass

[stuck phoenix]

What

[opaque sphinx]

no cuz i would have to use calamity

[cobalt blade]

theres technically a rly cursed way to get doesnt bypass at the cost of dropping annihilating light but you lose so much damage lol

[opaque sphinx]

u are not making a 7link HoT reserve 45% without calamity

[cobalt blade]

foulborn esh visage has this line of text

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i tried with foulborn esh

[frigid wedge]

im gonna have a fucking aneurysm if one more person says some shit along the lines of: unga bunga want no press button, unga bunga minion bad filthy minion

[opaque sphinx]

and nebulis

and a bunch oif setups

and its just shit

annhilating is non negotiable on hot cuz ur dps is just too shit

[frigid wedge]

like im going to actually fucking scream

[opaque sphinx]

well im gonna scream if one more person tells me to stick minions on my non minion build

[split palm]

made some fresh tuna steaks :>

what'S the argument

[frigid wedge]

awh yeah i want no buttons but the ENTIRE MAJOR ARCHETYPE OF THE GAME THAT CAN BE 0 BUTTON? YEAH FUCK THAT

[cobalt blade]

nom

[livid quarry]

wonder if minion works for slow clear non min builds

[opaque sphinx]

i get numerically its better and its borderline trolling to not use them and i am gimping myself
but fuck minions dude

[cobalt blade]

are you talking about people refusing RF when talking about 0 button lol

[split palm]

indeed

[frigid wedge]

no im talking about people throwing a tantrum the second you suggest minions for 0 button stuff

[cobalt blade]

ahh

fair

[frigid wedge]

half the time

the minion doesnt even require u going and getting shit

[full kraken]

I rarely find minions actually perform well as a 0 button build tho

[frigid wedge]

its like a fuckin zombie or smth

[stuck phoenix]

Well, minions don't give anything while dead

[opaque sphinx]

its not about work

[split palm]

minions are boring

[frigid wedge]

nor does ur character

[opaque sphinx]

its not about setting it up

[timid sapphire]

minions have shit clear too

[cobalt blade]

my personal solution is to optimize my sockets hard enough it cant fit in the minions

[full kraken]

though proectile based minions work fine

[stuck phoenix]

And spectres are slightly annoying because you gotta not unsummon them

[full kraken]

IE spectres mostly

[timid sapphire]

there isnt any content minions r good for

[copper vale]

But u won’t feel lonely when playing minions

[frigid wedge]

insert wretched defiler here

[stuck phoenix]

Minions with no investment will die before my character

[full kraken]

but yeah spectres have their own anoying micromanaging they add on that can be kind of a pain in the ass

[opaque sphinx]

its about the fact that just conceptually i find the idea of adding minions to every non minion build stupid
i dont want to play with minions
i dont want them as stat sticks
i want them to be balanced and be used for minion builds

[frigid wedge]

yes but people have a tantrum when its suggested AS THE BUILD

[timid sapphire]

insert any generic kb build finishig map before u get to third pack

[full kraken]

I will say lightning golems perform pretty well for single target 0 button

[frigid wedge]

not as an augment to the build

just as the build

[full kraken]

and flame golems arent awful for 0 button mapping

[cobalt blade]

oh i mean minion builds arent truly 0 button

[livid quarry]

minions in non minion build is 100% consistent for harvest

the buffs are always there

[cobalt blade]

you have to keep your offerings up which requires casting a spell for trigger wand at the minimum

[full kraken]

but if you go stone or carrion golems, then you absolutely will find yourself needing to use convocation

[frigid wedge]

so chains of command isnt 0 button

[full kraken]

like any melee style minion /needs/ convocation to not feel like ass when mapping

[opaque sphinx]

like i literally hate minions so goddamn much i chose to make my HoT an occultist just purely so i don't have to feel like im 200% turbo gimping myself for not using golems

[cobalt blade]

if your playing necro with bone offering for your own defence id argue no

[karmic gust]

i think spiders are great, and other minions are terrible

[cobalt blade]

its low buttons but not strictly 0

[full kraken]

cuz melee minions will default AI gun for the outside of monster packs and thus take way longer to kill shit, whereas if you convocation them to the center of a pack they will instantly delete it

[frigid wedge]

but a lot of them CAN BE 0

[full kraken]

I think people want a 0 button build that actually feels good though lol

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[frigid wedge]

and ppl dont give a shit if its a true 0 button build, they hear minion and start kicking and screaming

the SECOND someone hears ur suggesting minions to them

immediate tantrum

[cosmic reef]

do you like minions dying every .12 seconds being trigger for wardloop?

[opaque sphinx]

also if i did add spectres it would be on a 1 link so no minion life etc cuz i would be losing runegraft of jeweller effectiveness

[full kraken]

unfortunately minion ai just means minions wont ever clear as well, but thats just like... the downside of depending on video game AI for clear

[frigid wedge]

im not directing this at you

like at all

[full kraken]

but I would say the best minion 0 button build is gonna be a projectile base spectre

[opaque sphinx]

no thats why im playing HoT even tho its shittier

[livid quarry]

cant they make minions cheat and give dem farther sight so they can target monsters before a player

[opaque sphinx]

that one i am slightly more ok with

[cosmic reef]

wish poe2 had a viable heartbound loop

[opaque sphinx]

i did pob wardloop before

cuz its just borderline enough that the minions dont actually do anything besides die

morally i am ok with this

[frigid wedge]

that kinda makes it worse

[bleak quiver]

at least you can mitigate that with shit like chains of command, 30x little shits at the speed of light and giant splash clear reallly well

[frigid wedge]

u want them to have short targeting range and a way for that short target to hit stuff behind

eg pierce defilers

[opaque sphinx]

oh i know that was just an afterthought i had while looking at pob to consider it

[livid quarry]

yeah what i intended

[cosmic reef]

or the minion snapshot thingy that you have your animate guardian passively give you dot cap regeneration

[livid quarry]

ranged minions with cheat vision

[bleak quiver]

that's fixed

[cosmic reef]

ri0

[coarse hornet]

Hear me out about minions tho, Chaos conversion via Unnatural Strength.... Arakaali's Fang spiders build.

[livid quarry]

well the minions have long range and long vision

basically killing stuff before u r even aware of the monsters

[bleak quiver]

spiders are the buid that suffers the most with shit ai

[opaque sphinx]

i just think minions having auras overall was one of the worst decisions they coulda possibly done
and shoulda made it something like a support gem that grants a free aura for every 2-3 minions u have

[cosmic reef]

the wildspeaker phrecia shit where you spawn the wolves and they give you weapon damage was fun

[karmic gust]

spiders have like he best ai

wym suffer the most

[bleak quiver]

if the best ai is atacking invulnerable shit

then you might as well not play any minion ever

[opaque sphinx]

then ur rewarded for having minions and being a minion build, but regular builds cant abuse it

[lofty basin]

Can anybody recommend a build for doing haunted mansion map shrines? I only have minion chars so far this league and they dont really benefit from me having a jillion shrine buffs. Have 110 div to spend.

I would guess something like cyclone or exsanguinate based on layout+benefit from buffs but open to suggestions

[coarse hornet]

spiders go Brrr

[frigid wedge]

there was a crit arakaali build with automated offerings with 300m dps week 2 this league

[opaque sphinx]

spork

[coarse hornet]

A crit version you say 👀

[cobalt blade]

crit arakaali is so ass

since you have to actually summon the spiders or use gravebind and stay close

[karmic gust]

i mean thats same for every minion, there is nothing special about spiders there

[frigid wedge]

https://pobb.in/5GsvagnhH8Vr

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1ryr4z6/just_wanted_to_share_the_league_starter_that_i/

[cobalt blade]

ye it just feels ass compared to poison

[plucky rivet]

why wont it let me pick the nodes i want .. i took out of 2 out of the 8 ascendancy

[cobalt blade]

which since the poisons get attributed to you is self perpetuating without needing grave bind

[bleak quiver]

the problem for them is that they are fast and keep on attacking the same target til they run out, they also have a REALLY big aggro range for that

[opaque sphinx]

why dont minions just attrack the closest thing and then target mobs u decide when u press the skill again

[cobalt blade]

click dpad down with your tree open

[opaque sphinx]

would that not be simple

[cobalt blade]

allocate it there

[coarse hornet]

that one is complicated way more than chaos damage arakaali

[plucky rivet]

its not doing nothing when i press A

[karmic gust]

i mean you have like 40 of them and ideally some source of explode

[opaque sphinx]

im asking as someone without a ton of minion experience so idk the ai much

[cobalt blade]

you didnt open it on the passive tree

[plucky rivet]

OK

[coarse hornet]

hmmmm im gonna have to see how much its gonna cost me to swap over a few things

[bleak quiver]

the constant 20 spiders

[frigid wedge]

bye bye hateforges

[cobalt blade]

hateforge'nt

[frigid wedge]

YES

YESSSSSSS

[opaque sphinx]

ikr i love fractions too

ngl tho mapping is a lot more fun when u don't gotta press shit

or at least more bearable for grinding

[split palm]

wtf sans

are those the 200d ones?

[mental nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-yes-yes-gif-15404538

Gg

[split palm]

hope mine were useful :>

[frigid wedge]

giving them to rem, shes also vls but shes playing slayer so will actually get value

[split palm]

who is ugh

rem

https://tenor.com/view/anime-peek-mirando-rem-uhh-gif-26627101

[split palm]

this rem?

ah

sans, do you, want

1000 hive glaids

[frigid wedge]

hm?

sure ig xD

[split palm]

or whatever those things are

ok, when I login later

if anything sells xd

I will also deliver them

but first I make a fake video, fake reddit post, etc.

[mental nymph]

I thought you were making the rezero pun for a sec kek

[split palm]

lmao

kind of sad nobody gets my current pun

😭

wrong target audience

tell that to anyone working in a lab

and the person will die from laughter

[frigid wedge]

sure we can ram one in

[mental nymph]

Ok no

[split palm]

huh

[mental nymph]

I'm out

[frigid wedge]

;-;

[split palm]

i actually never watched the two new seasons

[frigid wedge]

one of the characters is called ram

[split palm]

I know

[mental nymph]

I quit mid past season

Iirc

[split palm]

I watched the first three

I just want more maomao

and tanya

[limpid prairie]

ram
rem
next one is rim?

[split palm]

cd ROM

[normal hedge]

vrum

[mental nymph]

Vrum vrum

[normal hedge]

ah its vruun

[frigid wedge]

rum?

i am yet

[split palm]

Chamarel...

[frigid wedge]

to figure out which prefix is best uptime for pf

on flasks

[split palm]

one of the best rums...

[cobalt blade]

cos it depends on the flasks duration+your other stats

i think charge recovery was the overall best one though

[split palm]

ugh

thanks yt music

[cobalt blade]

null

[split palm]

on a 5 year old song btw

[limpid prairie]

VLC never fails to deliver xd

[frigid wedge]

kinda assumed it was this one

[cobalt blade]

ic

i think with tides recovery mightve been better without that?

[frigid wedge]

good enough

[cobalt blade]

diamond flask of the gay :3

[frigid wedge]

real

i hate silver flask

[split palm]

misclicked and flashbanged myself (:

[frigid wedge]

wait...

can i...

can i just spam the shit outta my mana flask

and recover more

[split palm]

is it instant recovery?

[frigid wedge]

no

nvm

dw

[split palm]

because you can't queue flasks

iirc

not sure if it resets the duration

[cobalt blade]

amulet stops you queueing yea

[split palm]

or just doesn't let you

[cobalt blade]

you can queue normally but not with the ammy

[frigid wedge]

fake flame link

[devout shoal]

omfg i got no blueprints for 20 caches with 140 quant

my luck when target farming these is so shit

[copper vale]

Woah is he linking witg his peenar

[limpid prairie]

bruh wtf its poe

not some weird shit

[frigid wedge]

its souls

[copper vale]

fortunately poe is some weird shit lol

Have u seen atziri

[frigid wedge]

mmfgh

i mean

what

[bleak quiver]

by the muscular golden arse of innocence! so indecent

[limpid prairie]

can we see this "Atziri"

[copper vale]

Hehe

[cobalt blade]

did they ever fix the lack of 4 boob on poe2 atziri

[bleak quiver]

wtf, they nerfed her?

[split palm]

think so

I only fought her like once, so idk

[cobalt blade]

[split palm]

and given how shit bosses are

and how I happen to have a nuclear bomb with 70mil dps

[frigid wedge]

only 70?

[split palm]

poo2 sans

2-3mil is braindead already

[frigid wedge]

ah

[split palm]

like 2-3 mil clears ALL content basically instantly

[limpid prairie]

cute

[cobalt blade]

real

[frigid wedge]

i got excited for a sec

[frigid wedge]

titi

[cobalt blade]

she got 4 boobed

[bleak quiver]

now she also has orbs on her horns

powercreep

[wise barn]

Reminder that Blizzard decided to place clothes on succubusses in D4 xD
( D4 is also K18 game )

[bleak quiver]

and deleted succubus from hearthstone

never will forgive them

[frigid wedge]

wat

tbf

[split palm]

I mean succubi do have clothes normally

[frigid wedge]

i find minimal clothes more attractive than no clothes

[split palm]

I believe

just very minimal

[wise barn]

yeah true .. but in other diablos .. i think those didint have clothes so kinda .. well small detail but still kinda wrong on their own "lore" 😄

[frigid wedge]

you just want naked women in ur game

[wise barn]

xD maybe

[split palm]

get a girlfriend, or something

or a wife

idk

maybe a man, no idea

[limpid prairie]

or a boyfriend or a husband

[frigid wedge]

i have one of those

she doesnt do that

[cobalt blade]

Felstalker bad

[cobalt blade]

based

[split palm]

I would actually rather have just an attractive female in a game than just goonbait ngl

[frigid wedge]

the point of succubi isnt goon BAIT tho

its just goon

[split palm]

sans

[cobalt blade]

succubi are gender

[split palm]

in general

[wise barn]

But Poe dont have naked ppl everywhere ... just some places so its ...in moderation

[frigid wedge]

which sort

of succ

[wise barn]

Idk why aziri and titty shakers are naked xD but example siren in p2 makes sense in lore wice

[cobalt blade]

wdym

[limpid prairie]

goon lore

[real spoke]

Atiziri makes relative sense lore wise no?

shes like a giga seductrice tweaker andy

[cobalt blade]

i just like wings/horns and succubi are hot women so gender :3

[wheat sinew]

why doesn't the crit chance increase on default attack wth

[frigid wedge]

what type of succibi

[short prairie]

Most girls I like don’t like me, and I don’t like most that chase me

[cobalt blade]

wdymm by types

[frigid wedge]

i jsut want an example

[frigid wedge]

why not like the ones that like u

[wheat sinew]

types of succubi isn't smth I was expecting on poe xd

[split palm]

I really can't say much

[short prairie]

Bad habits, Karens etc.

[cobalt blade]

the more humanish ones but with fangs

[split palm]

as I have been married for a while now

[devout shoal]

0 experimented item blueprints btw

[frigid wedge]

thatd be nice

or at least yk

[unique silo]

Are these elder influenced maps bugged?. Killed the mf boss with the three phases, took my rewards but map not completed 🤣

[frigid wedge]

to be physically near them at all...

[unique silo]

Went in again and Welp there he is again.

[frigid wedge]

show map

[plucky rivet]

i wanna upgrade my gems but low on divs... which gems are essential that will show a difference if i upgerade them https://pobb.in/PUl98q_i_leZ

[short prairie]

Is this the bannerman

[split palm]

I guess, yeah

[frigid wedge]

yes