lmfao
#1┃general
normal hedge
ruby geyser
This build has cost me a lot but it's wicked
surreal mulch
putting automation withering step phase run in a weapon swap is too degenerate im not doing that
ruby geyser
Is withering touch a fast way to to apply wither
surreal mulch
maybe i just dont use immortal call considering id be scare of it eating all my endurance charges anyways
surreal mulch
Is withering touch a fast way to to apply wither
yeah but uh. its suboptimal and youre better off looking for other sources
all you need is unholy might and more than 7.5 hit rate
oh wait no
cobalt blade
Its mamba
timid crow
You're just applying withered with it
surreal mulch
30 hit rate actually
ruby geyser
It's either that or wither totems which are slower. I have wither totems and just hate the cast time . Autoexertion applying rapid wither is a clever move for this build ngl
timid crow
cyclone + withering touch + brutality = no chaos damage, spin around, apply withered.
surreal mulch
just get overwhelming malice its cool af
pulsar ice
😭 I'm losing 3 dominance orbs in a row
cobalt blade
its auto exert gencried so its applied by the gen cry fucks
cobalt blade
just get overwhelming malice its cool af
Its mamba scaling atk speed is fucking useless investment for wither
timid crow
right, gen cry... been a while
surreal mulch
oh youre still talking about mamba
ruby geyser
Haha well problem solved and I appreciate it 🙂
cobalt blade
It is in the mamba pob linked yes^
timid crow
Gen cry auto extert auto-creates minions that use cyclone with withering touch and deal no chaos damage so they can't fuck up your prolif.
ruby geyser
Gen cry auto extert auto-creates minions that use cyclone with withering touch a...
Exactly the chaos would ruin the build
surreal mulch
Gen cry auto extert auto-creates minions that use cyclone with withering touch a...
they arent minions theyre proxies
timid crow
semantics
surreal mulch
no its actually quite relevant
timid crow
how?
surreal mulch
they cant die
astral brook
what map do i run for crop rota
timid crow
they exist only for 1 attack
astral brook
jus 16.5 with quant?
surreal mulch
some maps kill uninvested minions giga fast
craggy fiber
surreal mulch
but the actual distinction is that they dont get affected by minion damage and scale off your stats
cobalt blade
they cant die
Do wanna point out this is an irrelevant thing and there's also minions that cant die
The main thing is that allied proxy means they inherit your stats ye
surreal mulch
https://pobb.in/nhPZj3Y6AAKt
craggy fiber
diamond shrine massive buff for unarmed
normal hedge
craggy fiber
usually you need lots of investment
normal hedge
act 1 movement speed gameplay
craggy fiber
yeah thats tumult for you
dim turtle
poo2 moment
cobalt blade
Holy stampedeless
normal hedge
icant
craggy fiber
normal hedge
i was expecting banners to fix it
surreal mulch
you cant because master of metal is all your damage
normal hedge
its not worth it unless u're a masochist
craggy fiber
you cant because master of metal is all your damage
change class for sure if going chaos
normal hedge
qol >>>>>> banner slop
pulsar ice
wtf div is 400c
drowsy eagle
treachery hatred sounds like a bad idea right 
timid crow
wtf div is 400c
end of league gaming
surreal mulch
someone should do treachery haste envy on -60 chaos res as a challenge run
normal hedge
you
craggy fiber
surreal mulch
no
normal hedge
make sure to record a video
cobalt blade
someone should do treachery haste envy on -60 chaos res as a challenge run
ci eb run
surreal mulch
i mean id live but yk
craggy fiber
probably going ranger
and steal that node
37% phys gain chaos is a lot
cannot use tincture though
surreal mulch
it says non channeling
subtle forge
F
surreal mulch
idk how it would even work with channeling other than snapshotting. would be broken af
cobalt blade
It would be a nuts snapshot lmao
craggy fiber
It would be a nuts snapshot lmao
rage vortex does snapshot
surreal mulch
casual 250% inc crit chance perma
craggy fiber
sadly hard to beat minion pact this league
but master distiller so underrated imo
not many use it
normal hedge
you know how to beat minion pact
craggy fiber
really gg for shrine belt
normal hedge
just pretend it doenst exist and you can still have fun
cobalt blade
but master distiller so underrated imo
Its just on pathfinder people would rather use the better nodes
subtle forge
I don't even use it lmao
ruby geyser
That cyclone is another 31 divine haha sigh.
cobalt blade
just pretend it doenst exist and you can still have fun
just remember its minions adjacent and say fuck minions
normal hedge
true
craggy fiber
Its just on pathfinder people would rather use the better nodes
pen+250% crit chance and phys gain orobably better than most
cobalt blade
Its just on pathfinder people would rather use the better nodes
(and if your stealing it on a non pathfinder warden nodes tend to be better)
normal hedge
That cyclone is another 31 divine haha sigh.
yeah most of the good imbued are pricey, you'll have to get one with your own hands if you dont wanna overpay for it
cobalt blade
pen+250% crit chance and phys gain orobably better than most
progenesis diamond flask max res phys as extra anyway from taste of hate
and then ofc the main thing move speed
craggy fiber
progenesis diamond flask max res phys as extra anyway from taste of hate
shrine belt user
craggy fiber
since u cannot use the flask
normal hedge
That cyclone is another 31 divine haha sigh.
1/27 aint too bad
craggy fiber
but master distiller only consume the flask without using it
already tested and it works
cobalt blade
shrine belt user
yes but my point is if you pick pathfinder your never clicking that node because of how strong flasks are and if your stealing nodes theres better ones than distiller
ruby geyser
yeah most of the good imbued are pricey, you'll have to get one with your own ha...
I can't remember I think I was doing this with another gem but don't you just hit it with a coin of power? Not familiar with this stuff
surreal mulch
1/27 aint too bad
what site
normal hedge
craggy fiber
yes but my point is if you pick pathfinder your never clicking that node because...
for sure
normal hedge
I can't remember I think I was doing this with another gem but don't you just hi...
level up it to lv 20, 20% qual it -> coin of (red support gems) [idk the name of it]
surreal mulch
didnt pass the check
normal hedge
huh
surreal mulch
it should have had projectile stuff
cobalt blade
power red knowledge blue skill green
craggy fiber
none of those imbues support site is right
normal hedge
wym
craggy fiber
cause they copy it from poedb
surreal mulch
probably still good enough for normal gems tho
ruby geyser
level up it to lv 20, 20% qual it -> coin of (red support gems) [idk the name of...
Thank you! Gonna just do it myself haha
craggy fiber
its missing so many gem
like culling strike etc on them
i told it to the maker too
frigid wedge
if you go warden youd rather steal deadeye nodes
warden would rather steal warden nodes
craggy fiber
he said yeah he knows its not correct
normal hedge
prolly leg is too ded so they dont care
craggy fiber
he just take the support data for the gem from poedb
cobalt blade
warden would rather steal warden nodes
True honestly lol
frigid wedge
yeye
cobalt blade
none of those imbues support site is right
https://zgeoff.github.io/poe-skill-support-reference/#?q=Ranged&e=Animate+Weapon+of+Ranged+Arms this ones mostly accurate but i do know of 1 error lol
normal hedge
🐌
normal hedge
https://zgeoff.github.io/poe-skill-support-reference/#?q=Ranged&e=Animate+Weapon...
which one?
craggy fiber
never seen that one
ruby geyser
Ngl I can see how you can flip gems for good currency
cobalt blade
have fun finding which one it is if you dont know non imbueable supports :3
normal hedge
first i would have to care
cobalt blade
which one?
impending doom cant be imbued
normal hedge
😭
subtle forge
F
cobalt blade
but if you look at curses it shows up
ruby geyser
Like just don't sell the coins and invest in the gem and gamble them for a massive profit
cobalt blade
o btw have yall seen the legendary choice for front page/featured article of wikipedia
normal hedge
is it talkativetri
cobalt blade
no its yuri
subtle forge
o btw have yall seen the legendary choice for front page/featured article of wik...
lmao, I have now 😄
normal hedge
subtle forge
god, the minion bloodlines are so bad lmfao
copper vale
God, are so bad lmfao
subtle forge
lolwut
normal hedge
at least they have one
surreal mulch
god, the minion bloodlines are so bad lmfao
no theyre not theyre fine
prolonged servitude is quite convenient
afarud ritual is pretty sweet damage though i do wish it was multiplicative instead
nova minnow
idk if anyone does the beast spectre
surreal mulch
you can do fertile will with turtle and not need a minion life gem
nova minnow
Yeah but cant u super charge one w transfusion or smth
thick goblet
cold srs huh
surreal mulch
youd have to do it before every map
compact bronze
why is poe2 update named return of the ancients. Is ancients and old league?
devout shoal
what do i do with them on ssf
surreal mulch
you can do fertile will with turtle and not need a minion life gem
then again in almost every case an ascendancy notable is more valuable than one or two gem slots
cobalt blade
what do i do with them on ssf
Beast lock
surreal mulch
why is poe2 update named return of the ancients. Is ancients and old league?
read the history of wraeclast right now
do it
devout shoal
Beast lock
and what next
ruby geyser
Dude gen embueing is low-key a hustle I already doubled my profit on the fails
devout shoal
like what crafts even need beast locking
cobalt blade
woke orbs or magic jewel vaaling if you farm adorned
Woke orbs being an extremely strong ssf use lol
surreal mulch
imagine putting effort getting adorned in ssf
barren bone
Dude gen embueing is low-key a hustle I already doubled my profit on the fails
It's a fun gamble too. The pool is wide enough that the big hits feel great
surreal mulch
and its like a 20% roll
subtle forge
cold srs huh
yah, lmao
surreal mulch
trying to path out a cold SRS hiero lmao
what the fuck
ruby geyser
It's a fun gamble too. The pool is wide enough that the big hits feel great
For real not selling those coins anymore
compact bronze
read the history of wraeclast right now
nice
subtle forge
what the fuck
had buffed arcanist brand + recall in mind
and 4 endu charges, plus stacking cold damage and Hatred effect lol
surreal mulch
arcanist brand is ass to use
ruby geyser
arcanist brand is ass to use
Dude I hate it haha
surreal mulch
and 4 endu charges, plus stacking cold damage and Hatred effect lol
phys as extra is generally not that great on srs youre better off giving them flat
subtle forge
phys as extra is generally not that great on srs youre better off giving them fl...
fair
surreal mulch
they have pretty bad base damage
mental nymph
and get like additional 1.5d
mental nymph
man harvest didnt spawn,this map sucks ,meanwhile chad mirage:
(also harvest did spawn ,just far away from mirage ,in map corner)
nova minnow
1 div, not bad I guess
combine it with the other wills to earn more or smth idk
subtle forge
but a pretty decent effectiveness of added
what's the effectiveness?
surreal mulch
whatever it actually is idk
e
i think its like 85%
which is still quite good because theres a lot of them
subtle forge
yeah
subtle forge
yeah
Damage conversion: 50% of their Physical Damage is converted into Fire Damage, similar to the bonus on Infernal Blow.
Isn't it 100% now?
also
Summon Raging Spirit no longer has Minions gain 15% less Added Damage.
surreal mulch
oh its outdated
weird that poedb isnt just pulling from poewiki
wtf is it even using
subtle forge
nfi
pallid basalt
thought i'd play some D4 when waiting for 0.5, i had not played since season 3 or so so I have a lot of content to do... one day later : bored as hell.... game = bad
split palm
what does this have to do with poe tho?
pallid basalt
compared it feels so shallow
tranquil umbra
I mean it is kinda unfair to compare a 13 year old arpg to a new gen arpg
pallid basalt
what i like most is the "heavyness" of poe2's attacks.. they really connect with the mobs... d4 more feels like sparkes spawning outta nowhere and just killing stuf
fervent jolt
where's the hideout sharing global nowadays?
dark kite
trying to decide what atlas strat i wanna do now...current goal is basically just to hit lv99 for one more jewel socket, and/or make 135 div for another 3p voices to get two more sockets
karmic gust
if you want xp then breach is probably best
tranquil umbra
I was gonna say the same
dark kite
yeah im just not sure the build can handle it
tranquil umbra
what is the build
dark kite
hroc necro
tranquil umbra
oh you'll be fine
rancid sluice
it absolutely can. mines at a 100 through breaches
dark kite
well. okay. the character build can handle it. im less sure about the pc build.
tranquil umbra
fuck around and find out
rancid sluice
ah well thats another story
mental nymph
ebon hatch
took me 20 mirage maps with breach lvl99-100, with bloodline scarab
a couple of hours and couple of divines negative
cobalt blade
well. okay. the character build can handle it. im less sure about the pc build.
Frames overrated :3
dark kite
oh, if it was like 10fps id probably be fine, but the game tends to fully lock up if i get too juicy. 3fps, zero input recognition.
ebon hatch
are you using dynamic resolution scale btw
it helps alot, blurs your screen but retains fps
tranquil umbra
just play on 360p like the old days
dark kite
trust me, ive tried everything
rancid seal
https://pobb.in/fxU9rJF26U-B this previous
astral brook
https://pobb.in/-D9dr-SaOjRb
how is that glass cannon
astral brook
https://pobb.in/fxU9rJF26U-B this previous
oh
rancid seal
6k one has 1k hp reg 1.5k leech
other one has 6000 sec recover
visually they seem same but it is the dot tankyness
on 9k one i can use rf and fight shaper on maven witness
and facetank death rays
hence dot tanky proven 🙂
6k one cant use rf
astral brook
1st one looks better
astral brook
il assume you meant uber shaper
rancid seal
il assume you meant uber shaper
nah normal
facetanking uber shaper with rf on
is rough
the whole idea is to simulate uber shaper dot 🙂
astral brook
that looks like it could handle uber tho
dark kite
this is what it looks like when it gets bad https://streamable.com/j5nop2
rancid seal
coc is 1600 hp degen
3500 hp degen at 4-5k recover
death ray will hurt badly on uber
on norma shaper is fine
tawdry olive
reward for dealing with this fucked up map, i can barely even see myself
astral brook
4k is crazy never knew that
my build actuall glass cannon i cant tank sht but 2 shot uber shaper+elder
astral brook
reward for dealing with this fucked up map, i can barely even see myself
no amount of currency would make me go through that 2fps farm again
sometimes i went like 5 maps with no drops too
rancid seal
4k is crazy never knew that
didnt you see how much life you lose of course if ur 90% res is prolly less
but i am not
astral brook
90 res ye
rancid seal
i do math as 75% res coz i am 77% which is same really 🙂
astral brook
probably like 3k
rancid seal
at 75% res you take 25%
cobalt blade
this is what it looks like when it gets bad https://streamable.com/j5nop2
better than mine 
rancid seal
at 90% res you take more than twice less
soo ur like 1800
mby
87.5% res is making 4k to 2k
astral brook
oh 1800 is nothng
rancid seal
oh 1800 is nothng
90% max res i current meta i think
cobalt blade
at 90% res you take more than twice less
its 60% less damage for 75 res compared to 90
astral brook
if thats with maven
rancid seal
for most stuff
rancid seal
its 60% less damage for 75 res compared to 90
you count damage taken
cobalt blade
doesnt matter its just strict 60% difference
cobalt blade
If you take 1000 damage you take 250 with 75 max 100 with 90 maxx 100/250 >0.4 60% less taken
rancid seal
you take 1/10
cobalt blade
do that same math with any other value
astral brook
90% max res i current meta i think
its only possible for me because of this
dark kite
i have downscaled my resolution to 67%. let's see if that helps.
astral brook
is the ray blockable
cobalt blade
cant block dots
astral brook
oh ye forgot bout that
dark kite
i have downscaled my resolution to 67%. let's see if that helps.
update: it did not helps.
thick goblet
at 90% res you take more than twice less
more than twice less 
tawdry olive
no amount of currency would make me go through that 2fps farm again
Maybe poe brainrot speaking but the lag kinda feels good?
Like when you charge straight into 1k pack of monsters and it just stops for a split second and you know the explosions is coming and then 💥 💥 💥 uuughggg 😫
cobalt blade
Maybe poe brainrot speaking but the lag kinda feels good?
Like when you charge ...
If your going from playable frames to that yes
pulsar ice
lol, was rolling for just two t1 res with an open suffix and got triple t1 first
dark kite
Maybe poe brainrot speaking but the lag kinda feels good?
Like when you charge ...
oh yeah, it feels great...when it snaps back to normal.
cobalt blade
If your perma 2 fps (or less in my case) its pain
dark kite
if it snaps back to normal.
tawdry olive
Oof
dark kite
it's not the graphics that are slowing me down, my pc can render it all just fine
astral brook
Maybe poe brainrot speaking but the lag kinda feels good?
Like when you charge ...
if thats your experience sure , i see this every time
astral brook
also idk if my luck is terrible but ive gone 10 maps without a single div once
full juice breach
tawdry olive
also idk if my luck is terrible but ive gone 10 maps without a single div once
Also truth be told iunno how much I’m making it’s probably less than boxes (minus the lucky mirror drop) but it’s fun as fuck so Idc at this point
It also gives a shit tonne of gold for my real money maker: flipping on Faustus
astral brook
ok noob girl going simple map
test a void map
astral brook
Also truth be told iunno how much I’m making it’s probably less than boxes (minu...
both got me nothing lol
the real money is in inscribed ulti
cobalt blade
you did choose one that has no mods yes
rancid seal
it was free 🙂
cobalt blade
shockingly if you run an easy map its easy
rancid seal
well others was void
🙂
i cant use void ones
sometimes Chris Wilson kills me
i am never trusting diablo or poe with Hardcore content
thick goblet
let's try disabling triple-buffering
have you disabled sound in your game files? not just muting them in your settings
rancid seal
perma death from lag is most annoying thing you can have
rancid seal
there should be ping meter and if p ing above certain number
rancid seal
you dont die on hc
modest sparrow
Maybe poe brainrot speaking but the lag kinda feels good?
Like when you charge ...
So fucking real
cobalt blade
documents my games poe>production config.ini
and set the volumes to false instead of whatever value
(you can leave item filter/master volume ofc so you still get filter sounds)
rancid seal
no amount of currency would make me go through that 2fps farm again
i feel ya that why i went more dps
the more enemies i kill the more spawn
cobalt blade
personally think its miserable to play like that sounds are half the fun lol
but it is so much frames
dark kite
yeah
rancid seal
also i get alot of glitchy enemies like SRS
astral brook
if my clear was better it wouldnt be that bad
rancid seal
who dont lose life from ice nova shock nova
astral brook
trying to start bv just for that
rancid seal
it feels like area damage cant damage them
very annoying
elder mods are such pain in the bum 🙂
cobalt blade
who dont lose life from ice nova shock nova
ice nova boxes heal me
rancid seal
critical resistant (take no crit damage bonus) , or these that cant take area damage
astral brook
https://pobb.in/1eeFxz699Cng is this real?
rancid seal
ice nova boxes heal me <:Pogott:969199626966167562>
my ice nova
cobalt blade
https://pobb.in/1eeFxz699Cng is this real?
looks like a normal zhp bosser
rancid seal
https://pobb.in/1eeFxz699Cng is this real?
looks like meme
cobalt blade
my ice nova
Honestly probably also heals me in pvp because of how pvp dmg scaling works
dark kite
turning off sounds did nothing
still token
Is there a site, to check for server status ?
astral brook
oh i just saw the zhp
cobalt blade
Is there a site, to check for server status ?
the poe site
astral brook
yep real
still token
Thank you guys
tacit crow
hi naca
cobalt blade
hiii :3
tacit crow
how are you
cobalt blade
existing
tacit crow
very exciting?
rancid seal
Honestly probably also heals me in pvp because of how pvp dmg scaling works
here is my pvp experience i go pvp all happy to win it and then game insta disable all minions like spectre gone Animate Guardian gone too and kills all zombies and summonables and make me summon mid fight and look for spectre corpses ...
cobalt blade
very exciting?
meow
cobalt blade
me fr
split palm
meow
tacit crow
bro
full fossil
{tldr i miss u }
full fossil
cobalt blade
that prob wont even help much
if at all
Think you mentioned hroc so i assume poison your client is receiving a shit ton of poison dps calcs and the monster effects ontop lol
dark kite
yeah
rancid seal
too damn old
i doubt it i talked like that to my coleagues at work some was retired cops at age 60
imagine 20 years old girl to boss retired cops
dark kite
like...most strats are basically fine but once i start breaching it all goes to shit
tacit crow
i doubt it i talked like that to my coleagues at work some was retired cops at a...
i was talking to exodus i'm afraid
tacit crow
you're odd
rancid seal
if you talk to the Void , The Void Talks back 🙂
rancid seal
you're odd
thank you 🙂
i used to be the most popular girl in my school
just not in positive way 🙂
native abyss
rancid seal
i love that
full fossil
you're odd
what u upto
rancid seal
where u count em
full fossil
player count is still fine imo
rancid seal
most dont use steam
full fossil
15k people on steam + probably 15-20k more on standalone
split palm
15k people on steam + probably 15-20k more on standalone
no
tacit crow
what u upto
...
cobalt blade
most dont use steam
If you assume steam as a % of the playerbase ex 30% you can get a rough estimate of the full playerbase
cobalt blade
most of the playerbase is on steam
Not for 1
full fossil
cobalt blade
Stated by ggg it was skewed towards standalone
hazy roost
thats pretty normal, 2 months in is late league and most people will have finished what they wanted to do for the league
full fossil
its mostly because people are following streamers e.g if they play torchlight or diablo they go play that
imo
split palm
it's a higher % of standalone for poe1
than poo2
but both games have a higher playercount on steam
finite quail
this is what always happens, it's new players who try the game and leave after a week
full fossil
i mean thats fairly normal tbf
split palm
league is probably 25k peak
finite quail
people don't play too long
surreal mulch
average number fan when theres biases at the function
cobalt blade
its mostly because people are following streamers e.g if they play torchlight or...
I honestly think a good portion of it also comes from good double shrines being unobtainable for the majority of players so they dont get to play with the "new hotness" and quit faster lol
surreal mulch
I honestly think a good portion of it also comes from good double shrines being ...
you dont need double shrines
split palm
last poo2 league was like 3 weeks
surreal mulch
normal single shrines already enable like 20 builds
cobalt blade
you dont need double shrines
Doesn't matter fomo exists
split palm
but mirage is already month 2, no?
cobalt blade
So actually they wont
surreal mulch
it wont go down anymore tho
cobalt blade
they've pretty purely been going up since week 2 :p
surreal mulch
oh wow massive resonating is giga affordable
only 65 div
you can make the sickest flicker ever by scaling it
impenetrable resonating is only 12
split palm
I really, really hope
for ggg
not to fuck up 0.5 and delay 3.29
surely this time it will be good, right?
surreal mulch
delay 3.29 means phrecia
split palm
endless delve...
surreal mulch
phrecia delve
split palm
that'd be silly ngl
surreal mulch
you can make the sickest flicker ever by scaling it
split palm
isn't endless delve ssf
cobalt blade
so true
cobalt blade
isn't endless delve ssf
yuh
surreal mulch
but imagine delve idols increased chance for auls increased quant in delve
that sounds giga annoying to deal with considering youd feel bad uncovering tiles without it
plus what if it only updates every 50 tiles or some shit
split palm
1p voices from aul...
modest sparrow
cobalt blade
I am mostly just memeing but I don't actually see the problem with it
(beyond implementation being a pita)
slender elbow
is there any sort of effect that causes enemies near a marked enemy to be either immune or take less damage?
cobalt blade
no but if alot of your crit chance comes from assassins mark it would have that effect
pulsar ice
mesa
surreal mulch
dunes big
devout shoal
cause like last 5 times i got a ton of heist caches i had none in my mirage
split palm
mesa
surreal mulch
you need to take blocker nodes
devout shoal
so i should farm blueprints on mesa?
split palm
haunted mansion has the highest % of map covered by mirage tho
you want to block ALL content except caches
mesa does not like covering boss room tho
so no full mirage maps
devout shoal
im also running beasts so preferably not haunted mansion
split palm
mesa in that case would be decent I think
devout shoal
ill run mesa then ig
cobalt blade
mesa does not like covering boss room tho
it likes covering half the boss room but missing boss
devout shoal
oh and i also run ores with 2 kalguur scarabs so that might be an issue
but idk what else id spec into
with beasts and heist
maybe just quant ig
split palm
it likes covering half the boss room but missing boss
I've run hundreds of mesa maps with essence+ svalinn cope
not ONCE
and I swear by that statement
not ONCE did I get the boss room covered
cobalt blade
lol
devout shoal
fuck boss cover
cobalt blade
i had it happen once when a box spawned on the inner section of mesa
devout shoal
go city square if you want that
cobalt blade
But ye it hates covering it
rancid seal
guys can you be honest
tacit crow
never
tacit crow
300mil
feral hinge
if you wanna do ubers, like 15mil
cobalt blade
1 dps if your patient
split palm
not 3 million against pinnacles LMAO
you want like 20-30 mil pinnacle dps
so that ubers don't take years
rancid seal
i got 3.8M Dps tanky version and 9.5M non tanky and 17M glass cannon at under 200 div budget coc
split palm
neither are good
rancid seal
glass cannon one is 3500 hp 14k max hit phus 🙁
cobalt blade
but the actual answer is that it kinda just depends on how much time you want to spend and if you want to kill bosses before they can do phases
feral hinge
are you hitting cdr breakpoints?
split palm
and how much can you just absorb damage wise xd
rancid seal
are you hitting cdr breakpoints?
i dont use cdr
feral hinge
...
split palm
are you hitting cdr breakpoints?
you are crazing asking that question in regards to THAT specific person
especially considering
said person was told to get instant use flasks
for like 2 weeks now.
rancid seal
so 3.8M Dps 9.2k hp or 5M Dps 8.5K Hp 7m DPS 7k HP , 9.5M dps 6K HP , 17M DPS 3.5k Hp
rancid seal
you are crazing asking that question in regards to THAT specific person
why flasks give no recover
tacit crow
what does that even mean
rancid seal
at 5k hp recover per sec you tell me to use 700 hp flasks ...
tacit crow
im aware
split palm
that person
tacit crow
ive seen this ragebaiter before
split palm
is more stubborn than a fucking concrete barrier
rancid seal
how is 700 hp better than 5k hp per sec
cobalt blade
at 5k hp recover per sec you tell me to use 700 hp flasks ...
Ive tried to explain it to u before
cobalt blade
because you arent losing that 5k hp /sec you use the instant flasks if your degenning and take a big hit
split palm
inside it
timid sapphire
who tf uses life flasks
cobalt blade
ex shaper slams you and clones beaming you+standing on degen
strange moon
ok ok so div card dup gamba is a little addicting. just turned 1 7 years into 3 for about 2 dive
timid sapphire
u use that shit day 1
cobalt blade
who tf uses life flasks
screams belt uses
rancid seal
i dont need flasks
cobalt blade
5 worm flasks
split palm
d e l u s i o n a l
tacit crow
how is 700 hp better than 5k hp per sec
5k per SECOND
split palm
nobody will answer you that question
tacit crow
interesting
timid sapphire
literally no one with a half decent build is gonna be clicking life flasks
rancid seal
i dont want flask
tacit crow
5k per second
timid sapphire
even day 1 once u get insta leech u can drop them
cobalt blade
also i asked dps vs hp
i mean with nothing else contextually 3k hp could be tankier than 6k
split palm
literally no one with a half decent build is gonna be clicking life flasks
I mean i clicked warcries till recently if I happened to stand in degen
as it block all regen
cobalt blade
literally no one with a half decent build is gonna be clicking life flasks
i click them because its funny to blow up worms for on kills
split palm
and warcry was just 15% hp heal
timid sapphire
worm flasks arent rly life flasks
rancid seal
5k per SECOND
timid sapphire
u just use em to generate on kill
rancid seal
i lied it is 8000 sec
cobalt blade
worm flasks arent rly life flasks
i mean they are
tacit crow
8000 just from the flask of course
timid sapphire
i mean they are
no one uses worm flasks as a life flask doe
rancid seal
why all attack me
timid sapphire
its just there for on kill
rancid seal
i just want opinion to tune my char to certain dps number
tacit crow
you dont listen
rancid seal
coz i can go mega tanky or mega dps
tacit crow
youve done this many many times
cobalt blade
no one uses worm flasks as a life flask doe
i did on my sparker archmage :p can mash them to live some shit
tacit crow
and you just ask and any response is screaming into a void
rancid seal
youve done this many many times
tell me dps number not flask
split palm
why all attack me
because
- Multiple people told you what to do
- You don't listen
- You are delusional
tacit crow
tell me dps number not flask
refer to shikas message
cobalt blade
(also cos all of them are questionable options)
split palm
If you think anyone wants to help you with that attitude, sorry to disappoint - you are delusional
rancid seal
For a minimum comfortable attempt at Uber bosses in Path of Exile, you generally need around 5–10 million damage per second (DPS) in Path of Building (PoB), assuming you understand the mechanics
cobalt blade
Would prob do the 9m 6k hp though with no other context
timid sapphire
thats fo false
split palm
I prefer when people take advice and apply it
rancid seal
i googled it
tacit crow
For a minimum comfortable attempt at Uber bosses in Path of Exile, you generally...
assuming we understand the mechanicas
timid sapphire
no one is farming ubers with 5-10 mil
tacit crow
who are you talking to
cobalt blade
For a minimum comfortable attempt at Uber bosses in Path of Exile, you generally...
that is so far from right
Ive done ubers with less because i was bored
rancid seal
this is from google ai i asked it same question
split palm
also 10mil dps is what
rancid seal
this is what it answered
split palm
3mil uber?
timid sapphire
ahh yes google ai is totally knowledgable when it comes to poo1
split palm
you will die to squids in uue 😭
karmic gust
why are you listening to ai about poe
timid sapphire
if ur farming ubers you just go miners to insta phase everything
cobalt blade
1/12500 of my dps
And your 1/10th of blade blast 🥀
cobalt blade
what did the squids even do
ground dot
timid sapphire
and ur gonna be 1 bil + dps
cobalt blade
phys dot to be specific
grim pivot
this is from google ai i asked it same question
tacit crow
And your 1/10th of blade blast 🥀
cold... but you're*
cobalt blade
cold... but you're*
yro'ue*
tacit crow
yea!
rancid sluice
turns out the feared are kind of hard to deal with in haunted mansion. beams going through walls and shit. good ol valdos
split palm
what did squids do
timid sapphire
i miss squids man ...
split palm
the wiki is also NOT helping the cause, ngl
cobalt blade
low key tempted to make my inquis higher than that blade blast on ninja just to fuck with you
timid sapphire
best money maker ingame
karmic gust
the wiki is also NOT helping the cause, ngl
if you dont kill them fast they spawn some dot groound or some shit idk
rancid seal
more informative than all your hate this is what i wanted i dont fully trust ai coz seasons change and info is old sometimes but it tried and answered
tacit crow
low key tempted to make my inquis higher than that blade blast on ninja just to ...
you DONT wanna fuck me naca
lock in
split palm
timid sapphire
ahh yes google ai pulling info from dad gamers from reddit
split palm
let google ai play poe
tacit crow
ahh yes google ai pulling info from dad gamers from reddit
almost as valid as "it came to me in a dream"
cobalt blade
you DONT wanna fuck me naca
Yuh cos im into women
split palm
it'd die at hillock
cobalt blade
it'd die at hillock
no itd die to the dying exile
timid sapphire
to farm ubers you just need enough dmg to insta phase
and at that point its not dps ur looking at
split palm
to farm ubers you just need enough dmg to insta phase
eh
timid sapphire
but burst
karmic gust
even if it was pulling from best players poe info is outdated every league so its literally impossible for it to be correct about anything meta related ever
timid sapphire
for elder farming u want also alot of ms
split palm
elder is aids by default
cobalt blade
for elder farming u want also alot of ms
shaper yes elder no
timid sapphire
elder is chill
karmic gust
only insane people farm uber shaper
timid sapphire
well chillest boss is red or blue
split palm
well chillest boss is red or blue
nah
timid sapphire
cuz u just go in and one tap them
split palm
it dies too quick
cobalt blade
only insane people farm uber shaper
i cant never farm him again after doing 1k+ in sentinel league
split palm
so can't afk it well
timid sapphire
then maven
cobalt blade
on a wardlooper that died if anything remotely touched it
timid sapphire
cuz u skip first 2 memory games
split palm
then maven
nah
cobalt blade
failure ambivalence death a final abyss of unending darkness
timid sapphire
and u can just afk
split palm
nah
timid sapphire
no one farms cortex
split palm
I did.
timid sapphire
its irrelevant
ebon hatch
I farm cortex
cobalt blade
hes trivial but it so much time to run over
timid sapphire
what does cortex drop now a day
split palm
what does cortex drop now a day
nebu
ebon hatch
cortex is mega fun + it’s actually profitable
karmic gust
the long ass delays at the end are super annoying too
cobalt blade
rational doctrine nebulis and apostate
split palm
RD
timid sapphire
ohh ya ig thats true
split palm
apostate
timid sapphire
after nebu buffs its prety big
cobalt blade
it was rly profitable early on
split palm
made like a mirror with all the nebus
timid sapphire
did u drop any explode once ?
cobalt blade
and stayed profitable cos of nebu
cobalt blade
the long ass delays at the end are super annoying too
Yeah i hate delayed drops lol
split palm
iirc
cobalt blade
could still do ignite pb
split palm
nebu also absolutely insane vvaal fodder
timid sapphire
would have been 100% explode chance
cobalt blade
solid explodey mapper
split palm
at minimum
timid sapphire
nah pb is trash now
timid sapphire
just put kb in the bag
strange moon
div card dup is so fun like went from 1 to 7 "7 years bad luck" with like 4 div worth of harvest mats
this is addicting
cobalt blade
div card dup is so fun like went from 1 to 7 "7 years bad luck" with like 4 div ...
could've been 7 hom 🥀
strange moon
could've been 7 hom 🥀
hom?
split palm
house of mirrors
strange moon
ah ok yeah i just used what i had
timid sapphire
i never gamble with the bench
split palm
now the next 7 HoMs are gonna DIE
split palm
i never gamble with the bench
I did
won once 1 HoM -> mirror
to lose the next 9 cards
strange moon
well if you do it right (split after every double) its pretty safe and only lost like 1 out of all the copies
also dont even think i have the div to buy a HoM
split palm
had to make some cash back from vvaaling svalinns
timid sapphire
id only bench gamble if i played ssf
split palm
which were ANOTHER mirror loss
cobalt blade
well if you do it right (split after every double) its pretty safe and only lost...
no balls always toss in 4 or whatever the max for your stack size is
timid sapphire
if i wanna gamble i just do profit gamba
split palm
https://tenor.com/view/snorbbler-dugong-infested-server-gif-3376149696713761866
that's a new one lmao
strange moon
no balls always toss in 4 or whatever the max for your stack size is
hell nah
i aint rich enough for that
tacit crow
funny 1frame
cobalt blade
Its technically better given a large enough amount of cards
tacit crow
REAL 1 frame
strange moon
7 7 years is going big for me
split palm
funny 1frame
you know what the silliest thing is
tacit crow
wha
cobalt blade
funny 1frame
health bar lasted longer than a frame from detonation time 🥀
timid sapphire
its not too hard to make 2-3m a day just playing normally, no need to gamba
tacit crow
health bar lasted longer than a frame from detonation time 🥀
watch it naca
split palm
its not too hard to make 2-3m a day just playing normally, no need to gamba
if it was that easy mirrors wouldn't be 1000d
cobalt blade
Ye the bars there for longer than a frame
timid sapphire
well i guess if u rly dont care spamming 4 stack homs is aight
split palm
a mirror in 2-3 days is reasonable
for someone who actually has a job
and can play 4h daily
timid sapphire
i was making 2-3 a day entire week 1
split palm
I suppose
timid sapphire
and i was afk most of time
split palm
crafting fubgooner bows or what
timid sapphire
you could 100% make atleast 1-2 a day with 4 hours total
timid sapphire
crafting fubgooner bows or what
only day 2-3
to make my first 2 mirr
id do it day 1 if gold carries existed
split palm
you could 100% make atleast 1-2 a day with 4 hours total
also that statement is just wrong lmao
timid sapphire
if u think so ...
split palm
"look at my new 300d/h strat"
split palm
"I dropped a MB in one map"
timid sapphire
if u wanna make that much money
split palm
crafting isn't deterministic either
you can spam alts for hours on end
or just hit it with the first aug
timid sapphire
if ur stricly farming ur looking at 60d / hr max
split palm
also wrong
cobalt blade
"I dropped a MB in one map"
a dropped a mageblood a minute into a map so take that as a mageblood per minute
split palm
a dropped a mageblood a minute into a map so take that as a mageblood per minute...
true
I was running a strat giving 80d/h before additional loot
cobalt blade
if ur stricly farming ur looking at 60d / hr max
not if you include doing valdos as farming
split palm
just in guaranteed stuff
timid sapphire
yeah valdo is diff
split palm
valdo is silly
cobalt blade
then you can look in the 200+d/hr range depending on time of league(mirror+if voids)
split palm
sample size was 600+ maps
timid sapphire
and if its profitable or not
split palm
and it was profitable
timid sapphire
well u said crafting isnt determenstic
split palm
55c invest per map and you got out 400c per map
a minute to run each map
maybe 2 if you got a crater or good mirage
timid sapphire
but yeah stricly speaking about farming
u aint making 1-2 m every 4 hrs
but with hideout
u 100% can
timid sapphire
you will if you know what markets to target lol
and its not hard to find those markets if u have experience
native abyss
why doubt the mirror guy
split palm
took sans over 4 hours or so just to hit the woke I wanted
wasn'T home that week so had her do it for me
a few days ago, just before quitting I crafted the same pair
in less than 5 minutes
cobalt blade
to be fair theres more guaranteed hideout warrior things
split palm
while also not settling with shit MS and a dead suffix
split palm
to be fair theres more guaranteed hideout warrior things
obviously
you can do wants pretty easily, etc.
timid sapphire
crafting is mid when it comes to hideout warrior ast early league
cobalt blade
best one being flipping in any way that easily does the 1m+ range
timid sapphire
flipping is kinda mid too
split palm
but it still isn't guaranteed you won't reroll for 20 years
cobalt blade
flipping is kinda mid too
depends on how well you understand the econ
timid sapphire
crafting is only good when a streamer swaps build or gets new gear
split palm
when those were 1m+ per card
timid sapphire
for that u have to stay in touch and be there when it happens
u aint gonna be in time for every market
like crafting can be god tier income if fub gets a new cluster for example
but on average day its mid af
cobalt blade
some funny shit for that is to monitor offline streamer chars well they test shit and flip those items
lol
split palm
lol
i think uhhhh
some japanese guy did that with lions
and made like 3 mirrors?
they saw fub's char with it xd
cobalt blade
yep v doable lmao
split palm
before video or stream
cobalt blade
If you catch it at the right time
split palm
same thing happened with hive boss tickets yesterday
timid sapphire
and big ticket flips are passive
split palm
they shot up to 20c from 4c in minutes
split palm
because turns out it shits out 40d hr for basically zero invest, has zero build requirement
cobalt blade
the main thing is you have to be fast enough to load before anyone else(and hope a bot isnt flipping what your trying to)
split palm
in fact, you need a shit build to not bug out the boss
timid sapphire
u dont flip shit that 1000 ppl load in
that is too much work for too little money
cobalt blade
in fact, you need a shit build to not bug out the boss
Legit i had to unequip most of my supports to do that boss
timid sapphire
just go for niche and expensive
split palm
Legit i had to unequip most of my supports to do that boss
I can't do it
cobalt blade
u dont flip shit that 1000 ppl load in
i mean its the more profitable ones if your patient
timid sapphire
u could spend a whole dy try hard flipping and make maybe 1-2m tops ontop of drying the market
timid sapphire
or u could buy an mb every 2-3 days and flip it for 1-2m profit
cobalt blade
like i flip shit regularly when im bored it's fun
timid sapphire
while doing something else to make more
split palm
who let bungie design a boss encounter
cobalt blade
or u could buy an mb every 2-3 days and flip it for 1-2m profit
doesnt work rn /most of this league
timid sapphire
like i flip shit regularly when im bored it's fun
no reason not to do it
its passive income
you just dont want to target markets u gt buy items constantly
those r never good
and u dry it out fast
cobalt blade
ye you target multiple just sometimes someone else notices and bots it
opaque sphinx
yer its a great feeling
timid sapphire
idk shit i flip i never had issues with bots
gritty epoch
Like that guy who flips wisdom scrolls?
cobalt blade
flip harder or smth idk
opaque sphinx
find insane new flip, flip it for 20 mins
some random knob who has no clue how to flip comes in and undercuts by like half the profit and lists 10k of them
kills the flip for everyone even themselves
split palm
Like that guy who flips wisdom scrolls? <:Pogott:969199626966167562>
farmer?
the biggest fucking clown
"ugh, I can flip a wisdom into a mirror"
essentially has his viewer buy shit out
opaque sphinx
i mean technically u can if u got 400 hours
timid sapphire
active flipping kinda dies with beasts going to async
cuz beast flipping was last good flipping u could do all day
when i was rolling gems all league (rip best money maker in poe history btw)
those ppl where making 0.3d per beast flipped
cobalt blade
active flipping kinda dies with beasts going to async
if you want an active flip factors lens+gems that sell way over priced at lvl 20 compared to 1
timid sapphire
vw had ame margins too
split palm
^
opaque sphinx
yer ppl have no idea how to price a facetor
cobalt blade
You can easily exhaust the market tho so you have to do it in moderation
gritty epoch
Buy fpa for cheap and sell on TFT ez money
cobalt blade
yer ppl have no idea how to price a facetor
Yeh
timid sapphire
if id ever do active flipping i would want atleast 2-3m a day
cuz thats how much i normally make
when i try hard
split palm
best currency farm is having a 9-5 
timid sapphire
well if u dont mind losing acc eventually
opaque sphinx
and no morals*
split palm
has its risks tho 
gritty epoch
Buy orb of chance -> convert into scour -> sell
This one is always profit
timid sapphire
i miss gem rolling so much doe
split palm
buy orb of chance
timid sapphire
it was legit 5+ mirr a day if u try hard it
opaque sphinx
harvest flipping p much same
timid sapphire
and market never dried
gem rolling was most braindead broken hideout strat ingame
u could spam it whole league
and keep making same money
and ggg killed it this league
so i had to find new strat
opaque sphinx
yer u just need like 2-3 mir starter moni
timid sapphire
sigh
strange moon
i lost it all at 12 7 years bad luck 😭 yep should have just got out when i could
timid sapphire
yer u just need like 2-3 mir starter moni
day 3 money
strange moon
it was fun though
opaque sphinx
maybe for u
opaque sphinx
i can see it
timid sapphire
cuz it was like turbo degen hideout strat
opaque sphinx
yer
opaque sphinx
just doing recombos u could have mirrors day 2-3
split palm
AT ALL
timid sapphire
did u spam roll gems too ?
split palm
not really
timid sapphire
u missed out 😔
split palm
menagerie is aids
timid sapphire
that shit was so broken
cobalt blade
it was fun compared to other hideout things
timid sapphire
thats legit only strat i did for past 3 leagues
split palm
like literally any profit you want is locked behind
a) beastlocking
b) recomb
c) synth rolling
timid sapphire
u just buy a few quads of squids
well yeah
menagerie
is where all money at
always has been
cobalt blade
watcher rolling is honestly similar profit but you have to spend more time buying good 3 mods that arent synergistic with the potential to become insane
timid sapphire
always will be
livid quarry
its locked behind pain
cobalt blade
Yeah
timid sapphire
thats low key what i did this league xd