1┃general

[tawdry olive]

you only get one of the modifers on a rare, headhunter yoinks everything at once

2 jewels means 2 from rares, etc

[livid quarry]

have ppl actually tested the effectiveness of inspired learning

[full kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6lH7cUeaQg

[tranquil sedge]

harvest doesnt drop divs.
you sell for divs instead of chaos, that's not the issue

[livid quarry]

as in if u use it with another belt instead of hh. does ur d/hr go up

[full kraken]

yeah, use accel belt

[livid quarry]

well ppl said that was reason yellow worth 4k

[tawdry olive]

i am testing it now but, i think the minion pact bv variant im running may not be the best candidate, i dont scale phys damage (full fire convert), i also dont have ES (drains immediately). it's still nice for zoom and stuff

[ebon hatch]

uhh i am out of dust... recombinator sucks ass

[full kraken]

or if you play flicker strike, the charge belt is very solid too

[short prairie]

Doesn’t drop divs, only locks and mirrors

[full kraken]

well that part is easy, one single bloodseeker fixes that problem

[tranquil sedge]

i c
i dunno wat the reason is

tho relation of div to yellow price vs div to chaos ratio would be interesting to know

[livid quarry]

yup

[ebon hatch]

can someone recombinate for me 2 helmets... last time. 3d time the charm so they say

[frigid wedge]

am i meant to actually run the normal map when im doing operatives

or just rush mirage

[tawdry olive]

rush mirage

it's so OP that doing anything else is a hit on your div/h

open arcanists and diviners along the way, thats it

there's 2 camps here, either take the corrupt box node + caster mastery and blast... or be like me and roll the operative boxes

[frigid wedge]

kk

i cba to roll em

like

[native abyss]

open all boxes

[frigid wedge]

if its massively better

ill roll em

but otherwise

ehh

[full kraken]

@frigid wedge Im attempting to make my axe a second time instead of gambling with my current one

[tranquil sedge]

poe.ninja mirage league economy tracker

[full kraken]

this time instead of donating the triple T1 mods to the target base, Im just recombinating with the ideal base to start after triple splitting them

[frigid wedge]

uhm

what was original axe

[full kraken]

this time I want better suffixes and Im gonna chase the mythical 15% phys enchant

cuz tbh I dont need the 3 sockets, I can sacrifice the sockets for MOAR DMG

[frigid wedge]

ah

right

is that base bis

[tranquil sedge]

if we're just speculating i think this might be a possible reason for lifeforce price dropping @livid quarry

21.6k on poedb at day 52, on day 54 is down to 16..3k

[frigid wedge]

werent u using twister

[cobalt blade]

rolling the boxes is crazy

so not worth the time compared to getting out faster

[tranquil sedge]

if ppl are quitting league after endleague gambles, might cause demand for yellow to drop

and last few days seemed to have a relatively big drop

[livid quarry]

true

[full kraken]

the goal for suffixes is:

1. preflock reset suffixes
2. bench on attack speed
3. slam, slam, looking for elder suffix
4. isolate elder suffix
5. multimod+preflock
6. veiled exalt
7. bench dmg per charge, unveil, looking for crit multi
8. bench on crit multi 2 electric boogaloo

[frigid wedge]

u run full mirage or haunted

[viral burrow]

Are boxes even good anymore i feel like almost every scarab price tanked to shit

Maybe if u run pilfering its decent

[tawdry olive]

another fierce debate, i run full mirage dunes/jungle valley

i was running without containment at the peak when bloodlines was 2d+

[frigid wedge]

u using 8 mods

[tawdry olive]

but containment is very cheap now

full mirage 6 mod is enough

[cobalt blade]

its profitable off risk+bloodlines+cascade still lol

[full kraken]

nah, yall sleeping on abomination map

[frigid wedge]

im shitting out nearly 200 cloisters in 3 maps

theyre 12c

[full kraken]

abomination is by far best map I have found for overlapping content with mirage

[tawdry olive]

the key is you need to block ALL atlas content except heist now

[frigid wedge]

u block heist on mansion tho

[devout shoal]

ok what i just got a 6l from gambling

[tawdry olive]

pandemonium scarab is a new hit, its almost 1d now

[devout shoal]

free 20 fusing

[viral burrow]

Damn so cloisters carry now

Thats kinda funny

[cobalt blade]

abom lowers EV from losing out on scry (and i think full mirage is also just strictly better than abom)

tho if your too lazy to scry and running haunted aboms fine

[livid quarry]

why are ppl farming div cards

i mean stacked decks

[tawdry olive]

cloisters are weird, they spike to crazy amounts sometimes

[kindred lily]

worst beach ever

[short prairie]

@tranquil sedge what should my goal be

[livid quarry]

to find another goal

[devout shoal]

why

do people like farm destructive play with it?

[kindred lily]

remember when bloodlines was 3d

[devout shoal]

for free splinters

[livid quarry]

fr i think it would be to make the strongest version of flicker and see how that compares to ur reli

to see if having stats over a certain amount matters

i think it might improve ur d/hr a bit but not much

[kindred lily]

easy money

[livid quarry]

i mean what cards do they want

[steel light]

which pinnacle boss is easiest to try out mines on? eater is rough for me now as there's no landing marker

[frigid wedge]

damnation probably

[viral burrow]

The usual expensive ones but most notable is damnation

[cobalt blade]

ive heard damnation cant come from decks

[kindred lily]

the apothocary, damnation, brothers gift, broken mirror, mirror

[livid quarry]

[frigid wedge]

not me flask swapping every time i run boxes

bc i have no ignite immunity

[short prairie]

Yes I’ll swap to slayer dw, reliquarian is the worst for flicker

[viral burrow]

Ignite ice nova will get ur ass

[steel light]

all you need is to get one from frautus and yellow it up

[kindred lily]

ice nova comes for us all

[frigid wedge]

hence i swap flask

[viral burrow]

Kinda insane how much damage it really does

[rancid seal]

i am so glad i am tanky i feel like all streamers and people lie very hard when they say you dont need insane survival

[short prairie]

My d/hr is very high cuz I’m farming with my bv not flicker

[cobalt blade]

very few streamers say that? +your survivals on the mid side anyway

[rancid seal]

here is me running simple map almost died by 3x valruun bosses kosis omniphobia angel of death shepperd of hate and few rares cannot leech cannot recover above 50% life here is simple map mods

[cobalt blade]

i honestly always forget it does relevant damage past week 1

generally prioritize getting good max hit or suppression past then

[devout shoal]

do i recomb these? i only care about prefixes rn

[frigid wedge]

this is why i love scarabs

[viral burrow]

Yea idk ive been oneshot randomly many times before but ur right it for sure falls off

[cobalt blade]

idt its worth recombing with t2 with how easily you can make double t1 recomb fodder

[short prairie]

would you mind giving some of this to me please

[frigid wedge]

lul

[devout shoal]

how the fuck are you getting stacks of 11

how much quant is that

[devout shoal]

im low on alt orbs

[frigid wedge]

idk but im aboutta fuck up the map

xD

[cobalt blade]

stacks of 11 is just contains all of 1 scarab type

[viral burrow]

Box rolled with misc scarabs and yeah that mod

[cobalt blade]

[full kraken]

this is like the shittiest cookie clicker game ever

[cosmic eagle]

this game really tests my patience after 30+ 2s+2s recomb i finally hit but it did not pick the right base

[full kraken]

well now you can do 3+2 at least and have super super high odds of success

[tranquil sedge]

wat do u wanna do

[tranquil sedge]

why are you gambling on the base

[cosmic eagle]

what's that?

[tranquil sedge]

like if u want a specific base for a recomb why isnt every base ur using that same one?

[cosmic eagle]

coz shaper base shield on the right base is not dropping and also shaper orbs too

[tranquil sedge]

ssf?

[cosmic eagle]

yep

[tranquil sedge]

-# prob worth putting that in ur name if u want

[frigid wedge]

i did not in fact

[viral burrow]

xdd

[frigid wedge]

fuck up the map

[cobalt blade]

have you checked for other influ on the right base to harvest swap

[tranquil sedge]

are you looting other bases too

[frigid wedge]

shits wild

[tranquil sedge]

with difference influence, but on the same base?

[cobalt blade]

preservation

[cosmic eagle]

yeah i farmed like 70k blue juice today to reroll 10 of em

[tranquil sedge]

coz reforging them to shaper would be easy if you have them

mmk

[cobalt blade]

holy

[viral burrow]

Love to see it

[cosmic eagle]

this is what's left

[viral burrow]

If only all the maps looked like that

[frigid wedge]

they kinda do

[cosmic eagle]

the juice i farmed today is so cooked from 120k blue down to 7k

[viral burrow]

Last time i ran i had some disgusting dry streaks

[cosmic eagle]

roll influence is so expensive

[cobalt blade]

also can i just say fu ck the betrayal scarab of unbreaking i keep confusing the 2 when 3:1ing

[frigid wedge]

i have like 200 of them bc ive used more of them this league than any other scarab

[cobalt blade]

yeesh

[frigid wedge]

thoughts? feelings?

[cobalt blade]

unblessed ):

[frigid wedge]

i mean

price immediately floors if u remove the power charge on hit from filters

[viral burrow]

Dope shield

[cobalt blade]

i dont see anyone spending that much for 2% charge on hit

tbh

[frigid wedge]

yeah

ik

[viral burrow]

Yea nvm that looks silly

[frigid wedge]

thats why its dumb

[finite quail]

I don't think its anything super special, who cares about a tiny bit more es and a tiny bit more chancefor power chance on hit

when the power charge on hit doesn't matter if you don't have a way to get permanent charges, aka impatience's

[trail cobalt]

why did u not sacred before vola

or r those bases not worth anything

[finite quail]

58-66 es

why bother

[trail cobalt]

thats increased by like 250-300

it does matter to min maxers

at least roll it once

[finite quail]

thats like 30-50 more es

[trail cobalt]

since its liketarlly 0%

[finite quail]

sure it'd have been better to bless it

but its not the end of the world

[frigid wedge]

2 altars btw

[frigid wedge]

yeah

[frigid wedge]

just fuckin around tbh

[viral burrow]

Yea idk most people dont sacred when random vaaling stuff

[cosmic eagle]

if only vaal vessels transforms

[wheat sinew]

don't make them transform

pls q.q

[cosmic eagle]

they dont they stay same inside mirage

[wheat sinew]

ik

some of them stay

but it's 50/50

sometimes normal boxes get transformed into vaal vessels

[cosmic eagle]

i mean vaal vessels into operatives

[wheat sinew]

i.e had them in locations they weren't

[cosmic eagle]

which is even more fun

[full kraken]

I got my wife to alt spam for me for a bit

Should I marry her

[frigid wedge]

hmm

[frigid wedge]

i think u already did

[frigid wedge]

smh only 2 t0

[strange moon]

is there a tanky glad that does damage and is preferably under 100 divs? im so done with this deadeye getting kill by white mobs (im not even kidding ive been one-shot by a white mob with my elemental hit of the spectrum build)'

[slate compass]

oooo

[cosmic eagle]

oh shit

[split palm]

but you said 100mil each

[cosmic eagle]

ill just clean suffix and split the 2 prefix?

[frigid wedge]

i said 100+mil

i have 1 with 100m

and 4 with 150

[split palm]

uh

maybe you did

[short prairie]

Now fracture it

[split palm]

I did not really pay attention what the exact amount was

[cosmic eagle]

dont i have to isolate the prefix to NNN it? lmao

[frigid wedge]

hmm

[split palm]

But I did reserve "BoroSillyCat" fir next league <:

[frigid wedge]

what do i do while i afk simu

[split palm]

rewatch maomao

[short prairie]

There’s no safe way to remove you just have to yolo annul

[frigid wedge]

OH IS THIS WHY SEISMIC TRAP GOT SHIT ON

[cosmic eagle]

it's just 2 prefix 2 suffix

[cobalt blade]

idt theres much of a point with reforge minion existing

[molten canopy]

any private leagues happening? tyty's is full 🙁

[split palm]

there is a ruthless one

[short prairie]

You need 1p to nnn save

[cobalt blade]

pre cant be changed scour split

that bits not hard

[frigid wedge]

HOLY FUCK THE TRESHHOLD TRAP JEWELS WERE BROKEN

[cobalt blade]

but i just dont think theres a point doing it on that item

[frigid wedge]

worst jewel in the game

[cosmic eagle]

i would do that in sc, but i already farmed 150 rancours and hit that mod twice and i have 6 left lmao

[split palm]

why did I even open the stupid F1 channel

[cobalt blade]

fair

[split palm]

I know perfectly well the shitbox did not make it into good points

[cobalt blade]

this jewel is actually useful for 100% reduced quant testing to figure out if smths affected by quant lol

[molten canopy]

which one?

[short prairie]

Oh f I forgor split exists, just woke up so I’m still in my dreams

[cobalt blade]

very niche use but more useful than other shit

[short prairie]

[split palm]

#1┃private-leagues-lfm

[cosmic eagle]

so i just eldritch annul both suffix or meta prefix and scour then split?

is this the same with spectre body?

[cobalt blade]

eldritch can fuck you

split can do 2 prefix on 1 side eldritch on the other

[cosmic eagle]

so meta and scour?

[split palm]

what do you want to make?

[cosmic eagle]

i need this helm to replace honorhone fuck farming perfidi or whatever that funny looking helm from ubers

[split palm]

+2 minion helmet?

[cosmic eagle]

yep

[short prairie]

And then when you get the split item just eldritch all suffix

[cosmic eagle]

got a 2s+2p

[cobalt blade]

have fun imprint regaling to get it to the initial 1p rare state

[cosmic eagle]

2 shots

[short prairie]

Bro only 2

You gotta start farming beasts bro

[frigid wedge]

wtf

last league was facetanking 14 waves of simu

now dying to random sunder mobs in wave 9

[cosmic eagle]

did you really think i did not farm beast?

[short prairie]

That’s not a lot of beasts

[cosmic eagle]

well tell that to the maps i opened

[frigid wedge]

oh theres a 2k diff in phys max

[rancid seal]

guys should i run this my game may crash since i got 60% more map mods that means 73% pack size becomes 110% +

[short prairie]

I prob spent 30 ish morrigans of beast locks to make that 12 link sword lmao

[split palm]

@cosmic eagle do you have a CoE?

or just something like this?

[cosmic eagle]

coe? i just want to save the minion skill just like the spectre body for infinite amount of fracture tries

[round abyss]

Man Oak is such a annoying piece of shit. He reminds me of Tiny Tiger from crash bandiccot 3 but that fucker at least stopped jumping after few tries.

Oak is like cangaroo on meth

[split palm]

the +2 minion is not that much btw

or are you ssf?

[cosmic eagle]

im not in sc

[split palm]

because it's a 1 in 11 reforge minion

[short prairie]

COpEum

[cosmic eagle]

i already farmed 150 rancours today cba doing it again and hitting it once

1/11 is a scam

[split palm]

1 in 11 is fine

step 1 would be getting rid of all prefixes

probably by splitting

fill and 3 way splint i think

[cosmic eagle]

so i delete +2 it's a prefix

[short prairie]

Naca alr gave the solution

[split palm]

oh

[short prairie]

Prefix can’t be changed scour, split, imprint regal until suffix.

[split palm]

yeah, do what she said

I thing it's cheaper to win 1 in 11

[cobalt blade]

same i did mention that too lol

[split palm]

oh

my simplex sold

[frigid wedge]

nice

[split palm]

yeah

logging in, again

for 30 seconds

[frigid wedge]

ah yes

8c

[rancid seal]

cant run it

this game is such liar

[cosmic eagle]

cant i just eldritch exalt to add 3 suffix rather than imprinting?

[rancid seal]

says some mods

but add mods that are invisible

[cobalt blade]

you imprint regal until suff because you have a magic item after split

if you regular regal you risk regaling pre

[rancid seal]

stuff like every monster give you 10 x stack 90% less hp regen and leech , or you have 300% inc travel skill cd duration , and you are -200% fire res

[cosmic eagle]

eldritch exalt like just adding suffix only not prefix

[rancid seal]

or you become petrified or cannot recover life over 50%

all these are not map mods

[cobalt blade]

yes you can do that after but you cant exalt the blue item

[rancid seal]

not even mentioned

[cobalt blade]

you still have to get it rare with suffix regal

lol

[rancid seal]

i feel like originator maps worse than any other

nightmare maps soo easy

[cobalt blade]

Tbf here the cooldown one is an actual map mod

less cooldown recovery rate

[rancid seal]

naah it is debuff from searing exarch thing

[cobalt blade]

and the less recovery rate is offset by recovery on hit

[rancid seal]

• the fractured barrier

[cobalt blade]

exarch doesnt fuck with your travel skills

[rancid seal]

it increase your cd

i read the debuffs

🙂

[frigid wedge]

fun fact

replica rumis is bugged

[short prairie]

Yo

[frigid wedge]

nvm

wait wut

[short prairie]

Increased crit damage

[frigid wedge]

does hh have an action speed cannot be reduced aura

that can be stolen

[split palm]

don't think so

[cobalt blade]

it does not ?

[cobalt blade]

no but if you have wine i think one of those has that

[frigid wedge]

so why the fuck was i walking around fine with replica rumis until suddenly unable t

[rancid seal]

the irony is 50k minion with 5000 hp reg

dies oneshot

🙂

there is something weird on this map

[cobalt blade]

if wine

[rancid seal]

since even 60% more damage 250% extra ele nightmare map

couldnt do that

[strange moon]

question for deadeye mains. how do you deal with being one shot by white mobs? like i just dont understand how anyone can be ok with being that squishy

[split palm]

maybe

you were lucky like that lol

[cobalt blade]

Its just HH buffs lol

[split palm]

HH

[frigid wedge]

glad i was tryna record smth

[cobalt blade]

They play one shot or be 1 shot

[frigid wedge]

hh and accepting death

[split palm]

deadeye is literally NOT FUNCTIONAL without HH

[strange moon]

i get one shot before i can get hh more than not

[frigid wedge]

the idea is to offscreen

[strange moon]

does that mean the class is strong or just hh lmao

[rancid seal]

i give up cant do that map

i will count is as glitched map

and move on

[cosmic eagle]

hell yeah suffix hit on 1 regal

[tranquil sedge]

deadeyes arent built to be tanky

they're built to kill before being killed

[frigid wedge]

unless u decide to

[tranquil sedge]

they're very good at that

[split palm]

wait

[tranquil sedge]

okay sure fine

[split palm]

what the fuck lmao

[tranquil sedge]

but lkike if ur following generic ranger guides or smth

[full kraken]

failed the 2P+2P combine 4 times now

[tranquil sedge]

its generally dps is a defensive layer

[strange moon]

i get that except that if you shoot to much off screen without a monster being there you just lose all you hp from whatever makes you use life instead of mana

[split palm]

it means it's strong with HH

[frigid wedge]

i meant kill everything offscreen before it hits u

[tranquil sedge]

huh
get on-hit or leech or regen or anything

like if ur killing yourself by attacking or using skills thats a build issue and not a deadeye issue

[split palm]

on hit and leech is the usual way

[inland olive]

my ass just got banned on elden ring

[frigid wedge]

right

[split palm]

how the fuck

[cosmic eagle]

HOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

fucking won

finally

[strange moon]

no i get the leech but if you attack thinking there are monsters and there are not you lose health and quite a bit of it for some reason

[short prairie]

now make this

[split palm]

now essence spam

and eldritch spam

[frigid wedge]

hey look it happened again

[strange moon]

double checking cause last build i found was pretty shit https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/eviscerate-bleed-gladiator-league-starter this is a good build if i want to be tanky right?

[short prairie]

my helm is identical to this

just had unlucky unveil nothing i can do

[cosmic eagle]

so what's the process? get a good life first?

[cosmic eagle]

[split palm]

I spent 80d on unveiling

[cobalt blade]

i guess that one apparently e xists but i dont remember ever rly seeing it on mobs lol

[split palm]

also 30 qual base

[frigid wedge]

once? sure, twice? ehhh, 3 times? theres a bug here

replica rumis is weird

[cosmic eagle]

sc? yeah that's not hard to get on trade

[full kraken]

looks mid, only source of booms are just the non-chaining ascendency booms which kinda suck

[split palm]

crafted life

meh

[short prairie]

[split palm]

no

[short prairie]

reforge chaos until t1 fire res and empty suffix

[strange moon]

what are booms?

[split palm]

you spam essence till you get whatever you want

[full kraken]

explode effects

[split palm]

preferably, get all 3 suffixes

[full kraken]

like this

[split palm]

so you have a 4 affix item

[short prairie]

or chaos essence sure

[split palm]

and spam eldritch chaos

[strange moon]

wait why would that be important?

[split palm]

since it will most often reset to 4 affixes

slam eldritch chaos + exalt till T1 life

[frigid wedge]

ty for reminding me i gottar eplace

xD

[split palm]

unless you want to unveil, in which case, slam suffixes cannot on 2 suffix

veiled chaos, unveil

till whatever

go to craft of exile

and make what you want to craft

[full kraken]

so your clear doesnt suck

[cobalt blade]

its retal the clear will still suck

[frigid wedge]

i do wonder if

i could socket HoT as primary dps

in theory i dont see why not

[strange moon]

does this effect leech recovery rate?

[cobalt blade]

yes

[frigid wedge]

aint NO fuckin way

[nocturne maple]

big

[frigid wedge]

no

not big

[cobalt blade]

rare someone else having your exact 3 mega

[frigid wedge]

the fact i hit an EXACT megalo combo in the SAME LEAGEU as someone

is insane

[nocturne maple]

the 1 month old listing sitting in the corner collecting dust

[frigid wedge]

i think

ill grab uhm

6 to 9 donors

for helmet

bc i can

[sleek barn]

so close

[frigid wedge]

v vaal it

:D

ooh actually

that sounds really fucking fun

[sleek barn]

i'll do it after i buy a yndas

[split pagoda]

does killing uber elder give voidstone? if u havent done elder/shaper

[cobalt blade]

yes

[strange moon]

ah so thats why all but 2 of the maps i bought had that apparently

[split pagoda]

ty

[cobalt blade]

lol

the fun of buying the shit others dont wanna run

[frigid wedge]

dayum wtf

[viral burrow]

Holy geofris or honorhome they lowkey look identical

[strange moon]

reason i finally got map runners in kingsmarch

[frigid wedge]

this man has a fucking scroll bar

[viral burrow]

Goddamn

[vocal tinsel]

we love a random damnation drop while running sanctuary once for the 175 quant challenge

[viral burrow]

Gg

[devout shoal]

bro what

i had no idea theres cards for experimented jewelery

im gonna gamble with this on trade next league

[frigid wedge]

good enough

[frigid wedge]

theyre new

[devout shoal]

i already lost one

[frigid wedge]

kekw

[split palm]

oh god

[frigid wedge]

?

[split palm]

were you sentenced to beast hell

by yourself?

[frigid wedge]

usually

[split palm]

surely my toothpain will stop tomorrow

[devout shoal]

what do influenced items have to do with beasts

[frigid wedge]

beast lock

[split palm]

really hate taking painkillers xd

[devout shoal]

oh so you lock and awaken?

or what

[split palm]

yeah

[devout shoal]

i see

[split palm]

that's how you get double elevated + good affixes

[frigid wedge]

awww

shame

[split palm]

I should go find some ibuprofen ngl

[frigid wedge]

cant use purity of ele to replace my bismuth

unless...

no but i wanted progen

[split palm]

maybe lvl 21?

and idk

nvm

[frigid wedge]

still more zoomies i think...

[split palm]

can't you make clusters better?

[astral brook]

what scara s should i use for harvest

crop rota

[frigid wedge]

nah nvm

haste better

bc attacc

[split palm]

can try hit T1 all res on all instead

[copper vale]

1 doubling 2 lineage 2 fragments

[astral brook]

2 frags??

[mental nymph]

Sacrifice

[copper vale]

Sacrifice

[astral brook]

ohh

[split palm]

@frigid wedge maybe vaal ring for all res?

[copper vale]

That’s the standard but u can replace it with escalation and corruption for 8 mods map sustain

[astral brook]

then cant do lineage im doing niko with it

[copper vale]

U can

[split palm]

If you give me some money I can craft you the clusters to perfection

because I sold basically everything

[copper vale]

Why can’t u tho what Niko has to do with lineage

[wheat sinew]

[astral brook]

sulphite of fumes scarab

[copper vale]

what does that scarab do

[frigid wedge]

kek

[frigid wedge]

this is the vls

[split palm]

ugh

[split palm]

do you have a pob for the other one?

is it the deadeye?

[copper vale]

Interesting

[short prairie]

god darn it time to figure out how to get there again

the only thing i hate in delve

[rough field]

Usually da one with 2 way

[copper vale]

Is that aul?

[short prairie]

i dont understand what you mean

[rough field]

If not 2 way then 3 way crossroad

[frigid wedge]

best bet im seeing is res suffix on a flask and swapping haste blessing for purity of ele

[copper vale]

Try 5 ways if u want fast exp

[rough field]

See dis one?

[copper vale]

[wheat sinew]

first trove to the bottom, then sharp left

[rough field]

Dat is only connected to 2 nodes

[split palm]

why not swap to mb?

[copper vale]

Ssf

[rough field]

And a node usually don’t have 2 paths

So 3rd must be hidden wall

[tranquil umbra]

see I had this exact same scenario happen
but it actually didn't connect to the hidden node

[rough field]

Sometimes you have to refresh for da wall to appear after encounter I think

[short prairie]

[rough field]

I had dat happen once

[frigid wedge]

mana flask is half the build, also the flask we're trying to add is fucking progen

[split palm]

some guy

ran 1000 glands lmao

took 32h

[short prairie]

im literally there

out of flares

[rough field]

You have to go back to da cart after exploding da wall…

[short prairie]

really

im dumb

[split palm]

WTF

WHAT THE FUCK

[frigid wedge]

its beautiful

[frigid wedge]

?

[split palm]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

10d

[frigid wedge]

huh?

[split palm]

into like

a mirror

in 32h

[dark kite]

am i crazy or is running memory threads with aegon just, like, solid money

[split palm]

WTF

[frigid wedge]

from wut

[split palm]

31d/h

hive glands

[frigid wedge]

were they killing the boss for the money tho

[modest sparrow]

I mean are you running white maps just selling fragments?

[dark kite]

thats the idea

[frigid wedge]

or did they drop fb mb from chests

[modest sparrow]

Frop

Hehe

[split palm]

just boss apparently

[dark kite]

i havent started yet but speedrunning like 4-5 maps for a 400c echo seems solid

[split palm]

idk

video is in russian

literally kill boss leave go next

[rough field]

Da grey wind is kinda expensive no?

[modest sparrow]

Yeah it ain't bad if you're down bad for some cash but I think doing harvest or boxes is still better ngl

[frigid wedge]

i was doing rotas

[modest sparrow]

Or rotas yeah

[dark kite]

oh yeah rotas can get you more echoes right

[modest sparrow]

Yessiiir

Peak tag tho 🙏

[split palm]

LMAO

[frigid wedge]

yeah, and 2/3 of the rewards are over 200c

[split palm]

now it'S 50d into a mirror

and looks like he got unlucky with axes, 35 from 1000

[modest sparrow]

Thats very rare wtf

[frigid wedge]

its 5%

[split palm]

5%

[frigid wedge]

he shoulda had another 13 on average

[split palm]

15*

[frigid wedge]

how many amulets and red nightmares

[frigid wedge]

brain read 37 for some reason

[cosmic eagle]

i got the amulet which is apparently rarer than axe, at least 5 of each greater gems and 10 esh coin and 0 axe

[modest sparrow]

Huh that ain't so rare?

[split palm]

that's silly ngl

hm

and 2mil blood i think?

[frigid wedge]

printing time

[split palm]

that sounds stupid lmao

[frigid wedge]

i love the idea that he just fuckin threw out all the exceptionals

[split palm]

literally free money

[frigid wedge]

i wanna make smth with this

it seems rlly cool with queens hunger body

[dark kite]

yeah the breach supports seem really neat

[split palm]

maybe

I run 500 of them for science

[frigid wedge]

my friend lily made smth with foulgrasp

[native abyss]

im running glands wtf

[split palm]

I find it silly that I can humm the entire song in my head

just like most of other touhou songs

[candid stag]

Is att stacking expensive? Or you just stack str for example n all gear and utilize all the str w an item like “inc dmg per x str”

[split palm]

especially bad apple

[frigid wedge]

i feel like a lotta ppl are gonna run glands, find out their minion pact does too much damage, throw a tantrum and go back to breach

[frigid wedge]

very

[candid stag]

Why

[tranquil sedge]

is stacking <X> expensive
yes

[split palm]

infraction stacking is free

[frigid wedge]

its very hard to get a lot of attributes to an extent where they provide meaningful value

[tranquil sedge]

'just' getting str/%str on everything is what you have to do yes
and you will find the costs go up real quick

on top of that you'll also probably find some of the mandatory items are probably expensive too

[cosmic reef]

Actually insane. I don't come in here for a few days, come back and it's the SAME losers, always, here. Fucking hilarious.😂

[frigid wedge]

sounds about right

[split palm]

mainly you

[tranquil sedge]

pixel was right, i changed my mind
apparently we really do just live rent free in some people's heads

[candid stag]

So this why ppl use heist rings . The massive amount of att they can give on one piece

[frigid wedge]

theres a reason our names have fun colours and its because we just don't go away

[candid stag]

Simples I think

[tranquil sedge]

sure but there are also synth rings with 7% attributes

[candid stag]

Simplex

Oh

[frigid wedge]

stuff like that yes

[frigid wedge]

hmm?

[tranquil sedge]

the reason to go heist ring primarily is because (a) more flat mods

and more importantly
(b) you can mist them

[tranquil sedge]

was a small chat with him earlier today in here about how he blocks some ppl and finds it funny when they try to react/respond and find out they've been blocked

[candid stag]

What about abyss jewel stacking ? I saw tbis 6 socket abyss jewel body armour .

[tranquil sedge]

i thought he was exaggerating, surely it can't happen all that often

but lole justin here proving me wrong

[candid stag]

Sounds fun tbh

[tranquil sedge]

refer to my answer to your original question

[frigid wedge]

u want adorned for good value from it

[tranquil sedge]

.

[frigid wedge]

which is a pain

[dark kite]

and adorned does nothing for the body armour

[tranquil sedge]

stacking implies pushing one particular thing as far as you can go

and in general that is always expensive, minmaxing anything

[frigid wedge]

it kinda does if u use 3 socket lightless instead of replica

indirectly

bc u have better reason to get more jewels

[wheat sinew]

hmmge do I level a assassin sanctum running with the diamond belt

[split palm]

can i have funny colour too

[frigid wedge]

therefore more pen more life etc

[frigid wedge]

ur yello

[split palm]

I don't go away too

[frigid wedge]

that id a funny colour

[split palm]

yellow is ugly

same for white

I want pink :>

[tranquil umbra]

the endpoint of abyss jewel stacking is to get like 20 charges on lightpoacher right

[frigid wedge]

shika u quite literally paid money to be yellow

[split palm]

better than white

[frigid wedge]

nah

[tranquil sedge]

pink's nicer but yellow aint bad

maybe use a pink pfp to bridge the gap for now

[tranquil sedge]

lole

[tranquil umbra]

yeah

that happens

[frigid wedge]

u get ele pen per jewel with shroud of the lightless, best way to abyss stack is basically just voidforge

[short prairie]

[frigid wedge]

on jugg

[short prairie]

the vaal guy is really dodging me

and aul

ive encountered 3x abyss lich

[split palm]

no xd

[tranquil umbra]

I mean you still get the lightpoacher charges yeah?

[tranquil sedge]

happens :x

[split palm]

I mean look how nice that pink is

albeit

I should change my banner now

i think

or maybe pfp

idk

this will be hard to fit into banner xd

[tranquil sedge]

they get more common with depth, just keep pushing to 600

[short prairie]

600??

[frigid wedge]

ig u can atm with frostmage to prevent charge loss but it forces u to take either hateful or worm flask to keep them up for single target

[short prairie]

holy

[tranquil sedge]

i think thats where boss spawn chance increases max out?

idrm exactly off the top of my head

[finite quail]

delve

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-surprised-shocked-gif-14940640833910619525

[dark kite]

i wonder if anyones done the math on what map is best to use threads on to speedrun

[tranquil sedge]

basically if ur lookin for em just keep pushin, lower depths are not too hard

[dark kite]

there has to be a cluster of optimal layouts

[tranquil sedge]

and hope u hit it on the way

[frigid wedge]

i just yeet it somewhere in bottom left

[tranquil sedge]

there's probably a way to do that
but also like
bog, lol

[finite quail]

the time you lose from trying to calculate what map to choose on the atlas is larger than the time it takes to simlpy choose any map and speedrun them

[frigid wedge]

just be a mod and then retire

[short prairie]

im already falling asleep delving to 200

[frigid wedge]

its 5 maps

and they diff maps

[tranquil umbra]

think of the fossils you get

[frigid wedge]

u gotta find a spot where it will snake to decent layouts

[split palm]

bloooon

[tranquil sedge]

200 for outpost
350 for abyssal city
500 for ruins
to max their spawn chances for those biomes

[frigid wedge]

no matter wut

[split palm]

can i be mod for 1 second

and retire the next second

[finite quail]

no

[frigid wedge]

shika

look at my profile

and tell me i don't need the pink more

im not amgy

just sittin

[split palm]

you need purple

[short prairie]

complaining works

[split palm]

baka

[tranquil umbra]

are you trying to get machinarium

[timber carbon]

Servers are CHUGGING right now

[short prairie]

no adorned piece

[livid quarry]

complain harder

[split palm]

I should uh

find a new pfp ngl

and stop reusing the same 5 I did for a while now

or actually pick the fucking pen up and draw one again

[frigid wedge]

lmao

[worn drift]

Guys

[split palm]

is even funnier with scammers

[worn drift]

Should we kill the entire breach as we stabilize it

Or should we just straight up collapse it

[split palm]

aspiring artist that needs an emergency commission to live

and pay a trillion dollar bill

[cobalt blade]

entire breach

[split palm]

full breach, except the newly spawned shit

as breach spawns endlessly

[cobalt blade]

you lose out on a significant amount of loot if you just kill vruun/the rares asap and ye you kill everything spawned as it opens not anything spawned after it finishes

[cosmic eagle]

stabalize it and collapse it or if you are doing resonant cascade, stabalize it and open new breaches

[short prairie]

they keep coming

devling is fun now

target farm bosses

[cobalt blade]

its each breach already opened not currently opened

You can close them safely - teh reason you open multiple is for extra beyond procs

[finite quail]

they keep what

[cobalt blade]

Which is why you tend to run into 2 or 3 at once

[short prairie]

😳

[finite quail]

huh...

[worn drift]

Ressonante Cascade is 60c but it isn't giving me that much results

[livid quarry]

what is the abyss lore

[short prairie]

why you pretending

[worn drift]

I'm thinking about swapping it for another wisp

2 wisps

[livid quarry]

anyone got link to abyss lore

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-google-it-gill-engvid-you-can-search-for-it-online-you-can-browse-for-it-on-the-web-gif-10409511348401384306

[livid quarry]

what if i already tried

[short prairie]

abyss lich abyss king nightmare catarina

[finite quail]

you can wiki it

[livid quarry]

[finite quail]

kulemak

catarina

[short prairie]

ightmare cata controls the abyss lich

in ziggurat

[devout shoal]

wait so does tulinas passive work in grand heists?

[finite quail]

what passive

the reveals one?

[native abyss]

i did it

[finite quail]

oh no thats a different rogue

cause no it doesnt work with bp curio rooms

it works with secret reward rooms

there's a distinction

its "heist targets"

aka contract targets

[devout shoal]

extra targets

[devout shoal]

oh

[cosmic eagle]

why is citadel so trash man

[finite quail]

cause its trash

And you're the garbageman

Go clean those maps up

[split palm]

but cita did indeed fall off VERY hard two or three weeks ago

went from by FAR the best nm map to farm

to just second best, where it currently sits

but idk if CoWB even sells now

better off farming zigg

[cosmic eagle]

at least his shield can be dusted for 700k

[split palm]

overvaal it

and sell it to sans xd

[dim turtle]

is it worth getting my assassin to 100

[devout shoal]

ok i ran another 2 experimented item heists

only 1 in 2 this time

now i run enchanted armaments to see what that is

oh its useless shit

[cobalt blade]

you could find a 15% defence royal chest

[devout shoal]

ok tulinas passive works on grand heists

but gives regular heist targets

[short prairie]

adorned for sure

[cobalt blade]

itll be machinarium

[charred condor]

First maven invite done

[cosmic eagle]

[split palm]

1d

[short prairie]

what

ive been hunting or this

[split palm]

NOT EVEN, LMAO

LMAO

[cosmic eagle]

sc andy strikes again

[split palm]

there are no pink ones wtf

[limpid prairie]

divine is 350 c?

[cosmic eagle]

trade to DoD

[short prairie]

you gotta put ssf in your name

i dont have DoD either

[limpid prairie]

lmao

[split palm]

you are the one without SSF in your name

that's on you

[short prairie]

wait nvm, ppl dont read, even if you have ssf in your name you still get price checked like sc

[split palm]

I don't PC your stuff

[short prairie]

no,

[split palm]

I have a silly conundrum

I found a pun I really like

[short prairie]

when you screenshot something other ppl check for you

like you did

[split palm]

but I also like my current nickname

[cosmic eagle]

they just cant stop to price everything

[split palm]

Ok, I figured out how to have both

[short prairie]

@cobalt blade I BLAME YOU

[cobalt blade]

[split palm]

now you can do the challenge

or make new char

transfering this one to trade

the map is probably gigaexpensive now

[timber carbon]

What's with all the lag today?

[split palm]

hamster died

and replacement hamster not trained yet

[limpid prairie]

the challenge map!

[short prairie]

wdym challenge

[cold sable]

https://i.imgur.com/PSoeb64.png

[split palm]

make them 86

[cold sable]

awakened trade is saying these are worth 200d

[split palm]

no

[limpid prairie]

they are

[cold sable]

rly?

[split palm]

wait

maybe they are

[cold sable]

theres only one lvl 85 listing on trade

[split palm]

what ilvl

[livid quarry]

split it

[split palm]

triple split!!!!

[livid quarry]

and give me the other for suggesting

[stuck phoenix]

Fake

[limpid prairie]

think thats the best armour base, if its not split 200 divs

doesnt sound crazy

[split palm]

I forgot I used a different base

[cold sable]

ohh

[split palm]

yeah, it is best armour base

[cold sable]

split it looks more like real price

how do i split

[split palm]

since mine are

[stuck phoenix]

Well, the real explanation is that you finished it in a different league

[split palm]

res stacker boots

[short prairie]

armor stacker ring

[cobalt blade]

black morrigan+fenumal plagued arachnid for triple split

[limpid prairie]

first look at the item level
its way funnier to level them up unsplit

[short prairie]

finished it with srev

[cold sable]

what does this mean

[split palm]

50/50 to lose 600d

[cobalt blade]

the only thing you lose out on for 85 vs 86 is 35 ms

most people go for veiled ms lol

[split palm]

depends

[limpid prairie]

oh fair

[cobalt blade]

that is why i said most

[cold sable]

how can i level them up

[split palm]

refer to my pair xd

[split palm]

don't

it's recomb hell

50/50 to lose base

[cold sable]

oh

lmao

[cobalt blade]

yuh

[split palm]

i had fun with those

[limpid prairie]

i have lost a 30 base like that, it was worth it

[cobalt blade]

but i think youd agree most would go for veiled :p

[split palm]

lost 4 total 30 quals

but at least the last pair went well

[split palm]

depends on the outcome of the awakening xd

[cobalt blade]

ye tru

[split palm]

86 is better for that

since it can get an 35ms spook

albeit mine was a 30

but silly unravel happened

but generally, that was a diabolical boot slam

since it somehow hit 5/5 affixes I wanted

[limpid prairie]

unravel can get mods that cant roll normally?

[split palm]

and all, but ms were T1

and unravel hit 1 in 5

[cobalt blade]

no

[split palm]

yes and no

[cold sable]

does it need to be rare or magic or basic

[split palm]

it can hit them, but will do fuckall

[split palm]

rare, 6 affixes

[cobalt blade]

6 mod rare to triple split

[split palm]

to my understanding

[cold sable]

ohh kk

[split palm]

unravel picks a random affix

and tries to bump it up

it can pick a T1

just like with doms and conflicts

[cobalt blade]

it picks multiple affixes and splits your strand across them

[split palm]

and bump it up again

[cold sable]

oh

i can put on memory strands

before split right

why not ..

[cobalt blade]

just sometimes it decides to go all in on an already t1 mod lol

but it cant upgrade past the tiers available on item

[split palm]

yea

it's basically the same as dom/ confl

[cold sable]

is 71 a good amount of strands

[split palm]

71 is low

[cobalt blade]

you can but you eat strands getting it to 6 mod

[split palm]

but also

[cobalt blade]

and doesnt add enough value to be worth it for selling

[split palm]

6 affix

no point stranding it

[cold sable]

oh wtf

thats how it works no w?

[split palm]

actually

wait

[cold sable]

XD crazy

[limpid prairie]

you can harvest the 6 mods

[split palm]

if you hit 90

[limpid prairie]

why not

[split palm]

you can use harvest

[stuck phoenix]

But you're gonna regal an extra time

[split palm]

to do the 1 in 12 I believe

[stuck phoenix]

So probably not worth

[cobalt blade]

true but it doesnt rly add value

[cold sable]

what harvest

[split palm]

to get filled

[split palm]

regal eats less

[stuck phoenix]

Only some things consume strands

Harvest reforge doesn't

[split palm]

oops

[cobalt blade]

you craft a mod to make it magic then regal ye

if you rly want to you imprint regal to consume 1 strand but lol

(or 0)

[limpid prairie]

yep
pretty useless like adding the delve mod

[split palm]

I think regals are like 1-16

[cold sable]

how much divines would it be worth to do this

[split palm]

if you get 90

[cobalt blade]

wuh

[split palm]

it won't change the value

UNLESS

you hit 90

[cold sable]

meow

[split palm]

or more

meow

[cobalt blade]

meow

[limpid prairie]

delve implicit i mean

[split palm]

90 strands will add like 10-20d to value EASILY

[limpid prairie]

lies

lies?

[split palm]

90 strand is aids to hit xd

especially on a rare item

since you reforge bench till you get the elevated mod

and elevate it

and later woke slam