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[cobalt blade]

imbued no?

[opaque sphinx]

wait wtf

was that there the whole time

[rancid sluice]

yes

[cobalt blade]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

[cobalt blade]

personally ive had shrines eat it 90% of the time they spawn in the map lmao

for the maps where its not close enough you have high odds mirage hits both

[bleak quiver]

not close to nothing

its actively negative

it gives negative cdr

[short prairie]

[twin arch]

hrm

juice gambling isnt weighted right

[sleek barn]

Do it

[short prairie]

It’s weighted

Weighted based on your luck

[bleak quiver]

its weighted on destiny

[onyx adder]

i was just about to get cranky

[short prairie]

[dark sequoia]

Any idea how to get uber capable damage on frostblink totems without a weapon or shield? ouo

[onyx adder]

uh

what

[devout shoal]

cant go in btw

nvm i can

[twin arch]

nice

x4

[sleek barn]

how do damage with no weapon

[dark sequoia]

I want to use the fulcrum on a frostblink totem build but it seems most ways to scale damage need the weapon slots.

[sleek barn]

ran out of juice?

I have more

[twin arch]

ur a horrible influence

[dark sequoia]

The only way I can think of is wardstack nightgrip with breach bloodline to cold but that is oooooof

[twin arch]

cool

[limpid prairie]

eh ward stack only locks like
the belt the body and gloves boots helmet choose 2

[twin arch]

i bought like 3 cards

and a bunch of juice

made 10 cards

[devout shoal]

ok cool im after red juice and i only got yellow crops

and blue

with decreased blue chance

[bleak quiver]

the nodes barely do anything, get used to it

[opaque sphinx]

whats the syntax to split mods in regex again

[cobalt blade]

couldve been 10 hom 🥀

[cobalt blade]

|

[opaque sphinx]

ty

i used every slash but that one

[cobalt blade]

its the pipe symbol

[opaque sphinx]

ty now i'll never forget

[bleak quiver]

xdx vertical bar

[twin arch]

got bored

poofed it all

ill try hom

[opaque sphinx]

where my four

nvm

no space

[twin arch]

hrm

well thats my money doubled

[limpid prairie]

| |.
|| |_

[tacit crow]

go time

[opaque sphinx]

petition to have arrow keys move the selected mod on crafting bench up/down

[cobalt blade]

6:9 is the good one

[rocky glade]

Realistically what does Increase Melee Range do on builds that aren't Cyclone

[cobalt blade]

just type the values

[rocky glade]

I was on copium thinking that increase melee strike range would also increase Ancestral Call hit range

[cobalt blade]

26-40 for example does life on rings

[rocky glade]

But turns out they don't even interact with eachother

[bleak quiver]

makes mamba not physical torture

[rocky glade]

The base maximum appears to be approximately 3.5 metres, and can be increased by this support's gem quality and the anoint-only Sione's Ambition. The targeting range is unrelated to weapon range or melee strike range.

[twin arch]

k

got bored and gambled away 600 divs

gg

[cobalt blade]

go agane to make it back

[twin arch]

thats kinda what you're forced to do when strongboxes are only 40d/h

nah im at 0d now

i think im done

[rocky glade]

Aren't Mamba builds already use Ancestral Call

[twin arch]

i was looking forward to playing spark

very disappointing that the economy isnt balanced in a way to reward non gambling money making

[bleak quiver]

you need too hit something to start ancestral call

[cobalt blade]

i mean

[bleak quiver]

its why builds with it still get strike range

[cobalt blade]

you can do non gamble valdos :3

[twin arch]

thats gambling lol

[cobalt blade]

no

you can literally do valdos where you cant lose money

[twin arch]

ok whats the hourly rate

is it 60d/h

or more

[cobalt blade]

it can be more

[twin arch]

okay

hinging on what

[bleak quiver]

its probably the highest d/h in the game tbf

[cobalt blade]

how much your willing to live search and learn maps

[twin arch]

you also need an expensive build for it though

if ur farming valdos on 200d

ur not making 60d/h

[cobalt blade]

so fun fact if your willing to do voids you can

[opaque sphinx]

60d/hr is the lower end

[twin arch]

ur not doing voids on 200d builds

[opaque sphinx]

especially early league

[cobalt blade]

but

you can

[bold kelp]

Cws

[twin arch]

okay

[cobalt blade]

cws is bad

[twin arch]

ill go do a valdos on my agos

[cobalt blade]

EE glad with res shrine belt lol

[twin arch]

come give me the maps

[cobalt blade]

at 100-200d range your vibing

nah giving the maps im down to run fucks up profit margins

[opaque sphinx]

literally every single league bigdaddy does 2 days of heist to fundhis armourstacker, and by day 4 is doing valdos, and by day 7 is making 200d/hr running valdos/voids

[cobalt blade]

look for your own

[twin arch]

okay

so turns out

valdos isnt profitable

and it is gambling

[bold kelp]

They mean running the maps not buying boxes

[cobalt blade]

mydude tis trade you live search good ones

[bleak quiver]

opening boxes =/= doing valdos

[twin arch]

ur not outbuying the bots

how r u gonna livesearch maps that u can actually survive and turn a profit on

thats just hideout warrioring

[bleak quiver]

not with that attitude

[cobalt blade]

i literally make profit doing valdos every league lol

[twin arch]

how many hours does it take to find one map lol

[opaque sphinx]

we did it

[tacit crow]

-450d

[cobalt blade]

depends on how many live searches you run and how many map mods you can run

[opaque sphinx]

build is mostly online now i think

[twin arch]

i cant run most of them

so

im still waiting to hear the strat thatll get me a mirror in sub-10 hours

[opaque sphinx]

i can't afford to annoint the amulet and some items are settleshop

but lets see if it work

surely missing 16 levels and most of our defenses doesn't matter right

[twin arch]

https://pobb.in/nFAbWJg4ccwc

heres the pob

tell me where my 10 hour mirror grind is

[opaque sphinx]

bruh

how do i actually start my loop

[cobalt blade]

i mean as i said look forgood valdos

[twin arch]

one convo at a time please

[opaque sphinx]

i guess i just need a random skill

[cobalt blade]

weapon swap with summon spectral wolves essence

[twin arch]

i dont see any on livesearch

[opaque sphinx]

nah HoT not wardloop

[cobalt blade]

ahh

ye its just random skill then

[twin arch]

ok i got voided

league is over for me i guess

[rancid sluice]

is your travel skill enough

[cobalt blade]

skill issue or smth

[twin arch]

yeah agos is just kinda shit

i shouldnt have picked form over function

[opaque sphinx]

death to minions

[finite quail]

wtf

[cobalt blade]

can i just judge you for having 2 rare jewels in your tree

[finite quail]

slammed max roll lightning multi

[twin arch]

you cant judge me

[thick vine]

Could be worse

[twin arch]

the build is voided now

not like it matters

[cobalt blade]

🥀

[finite quail]

what the fuck is that jewel

[bold kelp]

Runescape ass looking text

[thick vine]

You could have picked starting strength stacker

[finite quail]

you are correct

[twin arch]

ya idk

game just killed the league for me

[finite quail]

skill issue

[twin arch]

if they made actually reasonable non gambling farms this wouldve been preventable

[twin arch]

ya true

mixed with game design issue

same reason people dont like poe2

endgame doesnt offer you content or respect your time

[bold kelp]

Isn't literally every league a gambling farm late league?

[limpid prairie]

whats a resonable farm?
why are current farms not resonable?

[finite quail]

everything in this game is gambling man

[bold kelp]

This is just an economy problem where the majority of the playerbase quit

[thick vine]

Game design is not why you’re not making mirrors

[finite quail]

almost everything is rng based

its an arpg bro

its a literal slot machine

[bold kelp]

And the only people left are giga addicts with infinite money

[twin arch]

what non gambling non valdos method is making you a mirror every 8 hours

wtf

[thick vine]

It’s exploiting fast and early

[twin arch]

yea ok so poor game design that rewards the people with more time

the game isnt bad

it just has bad design

[thick vine]

Idk ask profit crafters

[bleak quiver]

i do agree that more diversity of high profit strats would be fun but, sometimes, its about just enjoying you know, if money takes the fun out, go ssf

[twin arch]

profit crafters dont play the game

[thick vine]

True

[twin arch]

ssf is even worse

you cant make a real build

[bold kelp]

Wtf is a real build to you

[finite quail]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[cobalt blade]

i keep meaning to ssf runs from league start but i enjoy the trade minmaxing too much lol

[finite quail]

look at this dood bro

[bold kelp]

Or do you just not want to spend any effort farming

[opaque sphinx]

huh

forgot i actually need to like

do lycia

[twin arch]

i blame being unable to make guardian spark with only 400 div for this

[dusky urchin]

the stars are aligned. fk cyclone, flicker strike here i come

[limpid prairie]

i can maybe carry you xd

[finite quail]

make a build appropriate for the funds that you have

[twin arch]

no

itd be weaker than my old one

which is a low bar already

[finite quail]

then dont complain about it

[bleak quiver]

same, even tho i got tired of nothing making 1/10th of the profit ulti does, min-maxing is fun as fuck

[opaque sphinx]

can i swap char after killing her to use altar?

[twin arch]

idk lambie u didnt even make 5 mirrors this league

[thick vine]

Play for the stuff you have

[twin arch]

not like u had a build better than mine

[cobalt blade]

no

[finite quail]

you dug your own grave and stepped in it

[bleak quiver]

today was the second time this league i almost started ssf...

[opaque sphinx]

whack

[twin arch]

not rly

i blame content creator culture

[finite quail]

idk if this is a joke comment or not but if its not you're really stupid

[cobalt blade]

you can run a lvl 68 tome tho toss on gear from another char that isnt hot

[tacit crow]

private league time

[sleek barn]

you can get her to really low hp with second character then swap to desired and finish her off

[cobalt blade]

weirdly map shaped build

[bold kelp]

Have you considered exploring strong builds that aren't created by content creators so the pieces don't cost infinity

Mayhaps even PoBing your own

[finite quail]

bro has not explored playing the game by himself

[twin arch]

you're getting 200m dps and 100k max hit with sub 100 div?

wtf

[cobalt blade]

^^ would recommend

[tacit crow]

better naca?

[cobalt blade]

D:

[finite quail]

also would recommend

[bold kelp]

With minion pact you can but then you're playing minion pact

[finite quail]

goated tab name

[bold kelp]

But also why do you need 200m dps

[cobalt blade]

meow

[thick vine]

Who are you trying to compete with

[finite quail]

[twin arch]

i pobbed this

https://pobb.in/HYdkPWI5oToJ

but it isnt 200m dps

and the max hit is too low

[bold kelp]

Literally everything in the game instantly dies with like 30m non PoBd warrior dps

[opaque sphinx]

40-50 far more than enough for most content

[finite quail]

why do you care so much about 200m dps

[opaque sphinx]

why spark chief

[twin arch]

ur telling me things that dont matter

[limpid prairie]

Doing a PoB yourself is hell
But thats the real farming strategy
making 1 C uniques into a valdo farmer

[twin arch]

200m dps is the goal

[thick vine]

You can kill something 5 seconds faster

[opaque sphinx]

then why pick chief

[twin arch]

because you told me to pob it myself

get with the program people

pick a lane

[opaque sphinx]

yes but like

[bleak quiver]

PoB is the most fun part tho...

[opaque sphinx]

explain ur thought process

[twin arch]

chief

has a lot of survivability

for free

[opaque sphinx]

what does chief doe for spark

[twin arch]

which gives you budget

to max damage

elsewhere

[twin arch]

the same thing chief does for minion pact

nothing

defensives

[opaque sphinx]

?

[limpid prairie]

eh... i agree and disagree,probably cause im bad at it
i feel i just lose my time trying xd

[simple stag]

someone show off a cool refracted cluster pls

[bold kelp]

Chief gives clear for minion pact through explosions. Minion pact BV has 0 clear

[thick vine]

At least you tried

[cobalt blade]

bro you have spark without pinpoint/overloaded intensity pierce in the main links instead of anywhere else(3 points on tree) and you have svalinn well complaining about max hit :c

[opaque sphinx]

chief gives explode which is massive for BV
it also converts to fire and actually makes use of it

[twin arch]

yeah

you told me to do it myself

[cobalt blade]

those are all massive damage ups to change

[twin arch]

this is the product of me doing it myself

[opaque sphinx]

yes and now ur learning how

[twin arch]

not rly

because now i have to change it

[opaque sphinx]

every build u make gets a little better each time

[twin arch]

yea but then ur no better than a filthy hideout warrior

[opaque sphinx]

??

[twin arch]

all u do is make a pob for 50 hours

[cobalt blade]

part of doing it yourself is taking apart other peoples builds and putting it together in the cheapest way for you idk

[limpid prairie]

Khailby hats off to you
you rage baited the whole chat into being alive again

[opaque sphinx]

^^^

[bold kelp]

So you're blaming content creator culture, while solely relying on content creators for your build?

How the fuck does that work

[twin arch]

about time

[bold kelp]

Without content creator culture you wouldn't even be playing the game

[twin arch]

its the only thing that works

it speaks to our culture

as a society

we live in a bit culture

funny bits chained end to end

[opaque sphinx]

making a build isn't always about making something new or from something nobody ever has
sometimes its just about putting pieces together in a way nobody else is doing

[twin arch]

in the game with 6 digits worth of moving parts to put together though

[opaque sphinx]

thats the fun

[twin arch]

not rly

cuz if you do it wrong

you waste time

[cobalt blade]

part of the fun is finding the most cost efficient way to do that

or the most generically efficient way

[opaque sphinx]

poe is a game of 1000 puzzles pieces all shaped in a way that look like a toddler on acid designed them
and ur job is the find the coolest ways to put em together

[twin arch]

well i showed u a cool way and you said its not getting to 200m for less than 200d

u didnt like spark chieftain

[opaque sphinx]

sometimes the numbers just aren't there with certain setups, u gotta make concessions and learn efficient ways to do things if u want big number

[twin arch]

im bored

just tell me where the answer is

200m dps

big max hit

sub 200d cost

gimme

[bold kelp]

Khatals manaman

[opaque sphinx]

like if u wanna play crackling lance deadeye, u sure can! and u can even probably make it kill pinnacles
and if thats what u wanna do then more power to you
but its never gonna be as efficient as an inquis or ele

[twin arch]

link

[short prairie]

im definetely not getting regen frac again right?

[limpid prairie]

i think that my ward trickster you can craft everything for 200divs

[bold kelp]

I don't think anybody is playing khatals setups. But DB has one for a miner. I also have one for a miner

For self cast you'd need to change abit

[cobalt blade]

calamitous frac

[short prairie]

what the fuck

i always frac the non notable

[opaque sphinx]

lifestack glad

[twin arch]

okay so

im gonna let you in on a secret

lifestack glad does 68m dps

[short prairie]

i failed to fac a 2 3 notable cluster 6 times

[twin arch]

ask me how i know

[short prairie]

in a row

[opaque sphinx]

without volatiled uniques u can make my lifestack glad for like 100d

and with a little reworking u can make it a good mapper

[twin arch]

i did bossing

not profitable

took 80 dread runs to drop a charlie

[opaque sphinx]

it def is

[twin arch]

boowomp

[twin arch]

anyway

its not

and i have the data to prove it

[opaque sphinx]

i mean doing the most meta boss that anyone wants to farm is generally not the best idea

[plain remnant]

Whats the website everyone uses to share their build in #1019646743299764255 ?

[twin arch]

uber feared rotations?

[opaque sphinx]

shaper makes bank, sirus makes bank, feared makes decent money

[twin arch]

okay

[opaque sphinx]

maven is insane money

[twin arch]

gonna truth nuke you here

[cobalt blade]

you can run regular mavens and its guaranteed profitable if you really want to

[twin arch]

i was doing uber feared rotas

i think in 20 hours i made 200d

[lean urchin]

@plain remnant https://pobb.in/

[opaque sphinx]

run em faster

[twin arch]

wtf

a full rotation in 12 mins is pretty good

especially considering sirus

[opaque sphinx]

its solid for sure

[twin arch]

yea okay im bored now

[opaque sphinx]

bad rng for u i guess

[twin arch]

gimme the link to that 200d mapper with 200m dps and insaneo clear

the one you used to make 70d/h+

[opaque sphinx]

well if u add insaneo clear to the list thats not gon happen

[twin arch]

well you said

that it could happen

nothing too bad

just has to be as good or better than spark of unpredictability on a 2mir budget ish

[opaque sphinx]

im gonna go get pizza

[twin arch]

?

you're the one who told me this was possible

i was originally saying it wasnt

and you said i wasn't thinking about it from all angles

[opaque sphinx]

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oh

[twin arch]

ya

[opaque sphinx]

wow

[twin arch]

bot got him

poofie

[opaque sphinx]

fast

[stuck phoenix]

hello

[twin arch]

there was a freaky gore guy yesterday too

or was that today

idk how he didnt get automodded

[opaque sphinx]

oh i can start my loop with frostblink

lit

[twin arch]

anyway im not seeing the build you were referring to

[bold kelp]

How PoB warriored do you want this build

[twin arch]

the lifestack gladiator with spark level clear

[stuck phoenix]

our automated moderation is primarily aimed at dealing with automated rule-violations

[twin arch]

200m with no pob warrioring preferably

its not that hard iirc

[bold kelp]

200m on a spark build with no PoB warrioring

[twin arch]

no on any build

just has to be a clear build

real fast like

[bold kelp]

Well what clears better than spark other than a bower

[twin arch]

okay

[bold kelp]

Literally nothing

[twin arch]

200m on a spark build with no pob warrioring then

for 200d or less

i believe in you

[bold kelp]

I had this lying around

https://pobb.in/PPFrYvflVUSi

Soul ascension is kind of cheating one may argue

[twin arch]

these rares are kinda expensive

[bold kelp]

Are they? like the rings?

[twin arch]

yea

[bold kelp]

They were a ~30d craft for me, but that was like way earlier in the league

idk how much they are now

[twin arch]

why

without it its still doing like

120m dps

no pob warrioring

idk why you have two wasted sockets though

[bold kelp]

I just clicked stuff to adapt a khatals into a spark AM char

[cobalt blade]

more dura imbue is heavy pob warrior imo

[bold kelp]

I didnt actually play this

[twin arch]

well i mean

[bold kelp]

The idea was that even with 1 hit, the damage is good enough

[twin arch]

so far his is the best

[bold kelp]

and more duration is for coverage

[cobalt blade]

lotta scenarios especially mapping where its just doing nothing lol

[twin arch]

you could probably do better though

give it a shot

xd

200m dps giga clear build

no pob warrioring

sub 200div

[bold kelp]

Does it not make spark go further?

[twin arch]

you find pobbing fun right

i dont

[bold kelp]

Idk, I don't play spark

[twin arch]

so you should find this fun

[cobalt blade]

projectiles deactivate around 2-3 screens away

[bold kelp]

Oh

Yeah then you can probably switch it for something else

[twin arch]

ur right

without soul ascension and the imbue

its only like 50m dps

thats garbage argh

[cobalt blade]

yeah but i cba to pob it

[twin arch]

yea okay

but go do it though

[bold kelp]

its like 36m dps single hit spark without soul ascension

[twin arch]

yeah

alright

[bold kelp]

No clue how good that translates to clear in spark

[twin arch]

not a great build then

what else you got

[cobalt blade]

fairly good with 4-5x proj speed

[twin arch]

eh

i set the like

boundaries of the theoretical pretty loosely

shouldnt be too hard to achieve

[bold kelp]

its also not at all a complete build. I'd imagine you can slot in the soul gem with an AG in it

put in some jewels

use the last 2 ascendancy points and its probably fine

[twin arch]

well yeah but like i said

its like if i order spaghetti and meatballs and i get chicken alfredo

theyre both alright

but i want what i ordered

[bold kelp]

Otherwise, I dont really play any full map blasters, just SSF. So as long as the clear isnt horseshit I'm aite with it

[short prairie]

only 24 smh

[bold kelp]

Idk if this is some negativity bias or some shit

but i swear I drop infinite overqual weapons

but no armours

[cobalt blade]

personally keep dropping over qual boots

[opaque sphinx]

the build functions 😄

[bleak quiver]

i keep dropping overqual reaver axes

[cobalt blade]

yo i think i dropped 3 of those last league and 2 this league lol

no 30 quals tho i htink best was 28

[devout shoal]

cool

[bleak quiver]

i dropped 1 30, and the rest were 24-28

no idea how many, but pretty much every overqual i found the last 2 leagues were it

exceptions were a 28 es helm and a 30% bow

[devout shoal]

surely i get the 1/10 for the other one to stay

i didnt

[thick goblet]

do you still have the grasping base

[short prairie]

yes but too low qual to justify

[thick goblet]

just risk your completed es chest that you're not using

[cobalt blade]

time to not get used all league

[devout shoal]

do i split this?

[short prairie]

naca knows me

[devout shoal]

i wanna hopefully frac max life but i dont wanna lose hunter influence if i miss

[craggy fiber]

cannot split influence

[devout shoal]

oh

[craggy fiber]

nor synth

[strange moon]

question how do i bulk buy 8mod maps someone showed me how to do it earlier but im missing a step and cant remember it (not tft)

[opaque sphinx]

sumboody link me a breach tree

the autobomber is alive

[strange moon]

https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BQAaAACKAE_mh9TRoeu7TPUkl7L6sRV5d96ihymLLoa0LJKLTl2gCHr-xW2IwCoez6yrp-I8WSFgNczzW6R_xLC9V4C5YVOUg03DjEG1Zl6dfWXOWsn9176N6goLqLwqu_w3Rjq92uT3JrIKeyd1f15gv97-qgqxnVQfm3eggrCUWbTXKyTRDs-dkipe1I-HndDGDPTDeRsAUXeCp73H9DqOOVmGugBw45zHxJGCUTfjRNV_b89H8IC-DrPH56674tMOfbX7sa6qThvgDF9KyxelHV-6L6iRzhN9DvkZlMrqGIv9tcGvC3E6duXsPn1xCwPtj-UPbBQX2vozxsH7SBLVacJ2qUO1Y6BxZh8_CEBolFVvOH7rQhzQKBQAH4sIAAAAAAAAAwMAAAAAAAAAAAA=

[cobalt blade]

:3

at some point you gotta just commit to using resources in an ssf enviroment lol

[opaque sphinx]

ty

[strange moon]

btw this isnt mine its fubgun's expensive breach build

[cobalt blade]

btw if you goto export and click get minified you can get a much shorter link

[full kraken]

why is kitavas feast 40c lol

who is using this thing

[lean urchin]

is it dust?

[bleak quiver]

yes it is

its a high dust item

[cold sable]

so um

is it normal that with too much dps u can break bosses who have phases

im trying to run hivebrain gland and i oneshot the bosses and this is the third time it got bricked on phase where the boss cannot take more damage and wont activate thje next phase

[bleak quiver]

most of them dont break, you just need to stop stunning them

[cold sable]

he is not stunned

[bleak quiver]

you can tp out and in and see if it fixes it

hive brain is kinda new so

[supple moth]

Quick question, im gonna play the tyty mini league, but im not sure if i want to play a penance brand elementalist. all the pobs have it use quite a few uniques and Id imagine it would be fucked to get this early. Is penance brand elementalist playable without all the uniques or am i better off playing something else considering its only a 20 day league?

[cold sable]

doesnt fix

[craggy fiber]

report or googlesearch see if its already on bug report

[drowsy eagle]

im starting the league today

[craggy fiber]

starting late is great items are much cheaper

[drowsy eagle]

[cold sable]

and it will not fix

[bleak quiver]

that one is new

[cold sable]

he is stuck like this forever

i think so

[bleak quiver]

ive seen it lock up on white bars

[cold sable]

yeah

if i re enter

the bars will change to white

nothing else happens it still is bricked

if i re run the mission and take extra effort to not use my minion when first casting bv

my dps will be drastically lower

but it wont break

so its just a dps thing

[lean urchin]

minion pact abuser hate this one trick

[cold sable]

i must have dealt too much damage in one instance that it breaks the phase mechanics

lul

hasnt this boss been out for like a year

[lean urchin]

not even harolds had this much dps

[kindred silo]

6 months is close enough to a year

[cold sable]

i mean

i cant be the first guy whos encountered this

[lean urchin]

youre not

[cold sable]

gg

[opaque sphinx]

scarab setup for ghetto breach go

[short prairie]

i saved them 4 times today

why they suck so bad

[opaque sphinx]

ur the only boat left on the ocean

not a lot of targets

2x instability, 1x resonant, what i use for other 2?

i dont wanna do boss

lineage i guess

and invasion?

[short prairie]

mappers

[rancid sluice]

can go double lineage, or wisps

[opaque sphinx]

same thing only dif

[rancid sluice]

yeah

[opaque sphinx]

double lineage better than invasion?

[rancid sluice]

ive never tried invasion couldnt say on that

[karmic gust]

you dont get that many rares from breach so i wouldnt bother

[opaque sphinx]

ty

fuck i still need to do lycia

[karmic gust]

i ran 2x lineage 2x instability wisps

i think

[opaque sphinx]

no cascade?

[karmic gust]

tried it for a while was similar to wisps so i just went back to wisps

[opaque sphinx]

huh fair

[karmic gust]

also was running mania with 5x deli scarab for a while, its alrright too

instead of wisps

[opaque sphinx]

not sure i can do mania

still low on levels and don't even have annoint yet

[supple moth]

Anyone know any good cyclone slayer guides? Ive decided on cyclone slayer for this mini private league but dont know whos guide to follow/trust lmao

[short prairie]

[opaque sphinx]

aiight how do i get % es on kill

[karmic gust]

cinder?

[opaque sphinx]

hmm

coul do for now

might not need oriath pops

https://pobb.in/ZCx2PImBS-ss

idk this is my pob for most part

missing like 14 levels atm so pretty much all the staff nodes/wheels

might fix itself with more dam/block over time but atm im barely sustaining the self hot dmg

[full kraken]

HH is keeping me sorta functional for now, I hope my dps stays functional when I swap to accel shrine belt instead

if anyone can see any other options I can use to boost my damage a lot without giving up belt slot (planning to use accel shrine), lemme know, Im close to enough dmg but about... prolly 30% short, need just a lil bit more

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/SteffenBlake-0084/mirage/character/LeSixcanHasArrived

brutality will be better if Im not using HH for sure

[cobalt blade]

could use fogs to get brush with death on a cluster

would prob have to drop astonishing affliction tho

[full kraken]

maybe I should swap to soul eater ring instead

I go pretty dang fast with soul eater stacks and instant lightning warp

yeah you know what I might try that instead of death rush, see how my dps fairs, though I still lose marylenes

but I can get my impale gloves and crit belt back at least

[short prairie]

Can you get your curse duration low enough for that ring?

I thought it’s dead

[full kraken]

Im twisters so I off the bat have 95% reduced dur

[cobalt blade]

you can but the problem is if u deal too much damage it doesn't work lol

[cold sable]

do you count as burning while affected by righteous fire

[cobalt blade]

yes

[full kraken]

also why dont people just do Lightning Warp Hextouch to trigger the ring

cuz lightning warp adds innate 100% reduced dur

[cold sable]

if i cannot be chilled, can i still be frozen ?

[short prairie]

Ofc

[cobalt blade]

imnate 50 but it still needs to have dura

[cobalt blade]

yes you can

Freeze and chill are separate

[cold sable]

okie ty

[cobalt blade]

(cant use a 0 duration curse for it iirc) But uh once your builds good which trade league not hard to get to the point you kill shit before you curse dura expires too much to get soul

and greater devour support exists now if you rly want soul eater

its basically perma up doing juiced content

(+for bossing blinking onto the boss to get souls sounds miserable lol)

[full kraken]

works perfectly with CoC's cooldown

you know I could theoretically hit 4 pieces of crusader gear 🤔

pretty good!

[cobalt blade]

oh also actually another thing devaluing soul eater is 8% cast speed clusters lol

makes the investment into duration/ring slot/4-5l just not worth if your not doing it for your skill already

instead of being yknow 5-10x cast speed its barely double

[onyx adder]

Yer i played necro caster with greater devour this league

And i mean its totally free

But its not that good because im already wandering around with +250% cast speed

Whats the point of soul eater other than it turns my 1.5m ehp vs trash into 15m yay

[full kraken]

yeah this combo works super well for me, I shoulda tried it before

[cobalt blade]

yeah i tried it on my fross too just didnt feel worth the gem socket when i was at this

[onyx adder]

Yer hard agree

Devour support is also dogshit at stopping on death effects because its delayed

So its rly about just the numbers and i mean its okay but not very hype tbh

[cobalt blade]

as a whispers user it was doing nothing other than cast speed

:D

its okay in breach tho for life builds or for mana sustain/corpse destruction

[onyx adder]

Yea like i said its garbotron for corpse destruction

The only effect it stops is dd box because dd box is even more delayed than devour support

[cobalt blade]

it solves boxes explodes corpses rares (mostly) and explode from bosses id say thats good enough

just doesnt solve like porcupines iirc

[onyx adder]

Porcupines, ground effect zombies, all that

[cobalt blade]

ye

[short prairie]

shatter solves that too

[full kraken]

does whispers work if you hex enemies on hit via glove corrupt

though I think Id just kill enemies instantly

trying to figure out how to automate the soul eater stacks without having to manually spam cyclone

[karmic gust]

you can get asenaths and automate it for mapping like that with delay

[cobalt blade]

iirc yeah but it only rly works with asenaths so the curses persist on corpses

[karmic gust]

assuming you mean coiling whisper

[full kraken]

it works if the curse expires off a corpse?

[cobalt blade]

and even then if your too far from the corpse the curse still falls off(without duration expire)

yes

duration still counts down on corpses

[full kraken]

hmm maybe could work, I lose a lot of dmg though if I take my gloves off

but I could try it

[karmic gust]

does the gem even work properly

[short prairie]

Does the gem even work

[karmic gust]

i saw ppl say it doesnt work if its not actual consume on kill

[cobalt blade]

i feel like that was just people using explode

since explode killing something isnt a killing blow with ur skill

[karmic gust]

i mean it was for vd/desecrate

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3920260 this pretty much

[cobalt blade]

aah

[full kraken]

okay so yeah asenaths works like a charm

[cobalt blade]

that feels separate to what you said with not being actual consume on kill since it is consume on kill just needs to be a killing blow with the skill

[wheat sinew]

and alas the hardest challenge of them all

[cobalt blade]

since i did know it worked like that for vd/dd

[full kraken]

luckily I had this pretty nice set already on hand from when I was playing poison twisters too

[short prairie]

vd is a skill that plays similarly to kf, but worse

[cobalt blade]

definitely just a wording thing tho

[karmic gust]

well its not consume on kill you are not killing anything :d

but yea if you have to actually kill stuff with it to proc it then its pretty sad

[cobalt blade]

^am i reading wut u said wrong

[full kraken]

oh fuck yeah this is so goddamn fast and I just innately get the soul eater stacks asap

I cap my stacks in like, the first pack I run through

and I can jst spam lightning warp and everything detonates and I am so FUCKING FAST NOW YES

[marsh robin]

does anyone have any chromes i can may/have im trying to get my chestplate to 3 red and 1 green?

[full kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-haha-laugh-bobs-burgers-evil-laugh-gif-5258694

[karmic gust]

greater devour consume on kill = proc, everrything else = not proc

is what i meant by that

[short prairie]

are you going full psyco mode

[cobalt blade]

ye okay the way i read that was you calling greater devour not actual consume on kill

english bad or smth

but ye it has to explictly be the consume from greater devour nothing else works

its still 100% uptime in maps just means you cant automate it for bosses sadly

[karmic gust]

sad, thats not how the gem is worded at all

[cobalt blade]

ye

[marsh robin]

does anyone have any chromes i can may/have im trying to get my chestplate to 3 red and 1 green?

[full kraken]

soul eater stacks only giving up my marylenes ammy (I still one tap everything anyways)

[covert swan]

Rule 6. No trading, begging, asking for 'loans', giveaways, tips for services, etc for any game. See #trading for alternatives.

[wheat sinew]

guys any fun builds to use with diamond shrine belt

[karmic gust]

herald of thunder cope

[short prairie]

Flicker reliquarian

[wheat sinew]

smth that's not melee pls

[full kraken]

and as a reward I finally got it

copying lava lake over to strand

[wheat sinew]

got 5 melee chars skills this league

[karmic gust]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage?items=Marylene's+Fallacy%2CScreams+of+the+Desiccated can just go through this i guess

[onyx adder]

I dont know i didnt test what ur describing

I had gdevour in main links

[cobalt blade]

can also just filter by shrine buffs now btw for the few without marylenes lol

[karmic gust]

oh, how?

[onyx adder]

Im not fucking about putting arcanist brand vd on every pack for souleater lul

[karmic gust]

i tried to searrch for diamond shrine could find it

[cobalt blade]

its just there

[karmic gust]

i was more thinking about using it on bows and wands

[karmic gust]

oh, i think i saw that even lol

but it just said diamond so i skipped it and its 5am

[onyx adder]

That would work in main links

[cobalt blade]

id do it for bossing if it worked

[karmic gust]

yea but i wanted to sling or asenaths or manaforged

[cobalt blade]

idk wheter to be happy or sad it doesnt since it sounds awful

arca brand desecrate vd gdevour with cascade imbue

[karmic gust]

well for most builds you would just 4l + click runebinder and thats it right

and its self sustaining

[onyx adder]

Average deathbeam utility link setup

[karmic gust]

i wish there were actually any good utility setups left

[cobalt blade]

toss enhance empower eclipse on everything

[karmic gust]

blessing gone, all the onslaight and shit supports gone

[onyx adder]

There is no way ur complaining about blessing gone

[cobalt blade]

its still a thing if you run march+whispers of infinity

[onyx adder]

Ur entire poe existence has revolved around automating away the entire game

[karmic gust]

well im just saying there are eno strong buttons to press

if you want to slap something in your sockets

[cobalt blade]

i miss blessing it was fun when you had to actually solve the cost

but yknow most just clicked EB

[onyx adder]

I dont miss pressing the button

At all

[karmic gust]

i miss having random oos onslaught cull on builds

[gritty garnet]

isn't that just forest warrior specter

[karmic gust]

shitty version of it sure

[bleak quiver]

tyty league is already blessing me

pure skill league start

[cobalt blade]

then your dealing with the worst qol things in the game D:

[full kraken]

so.. if I save up enough I could theoretically free up my annoint

but I dunno what annoint I would want for mapping

[karmic gust]

im getting the most random ass youtube recommendations recently

[full kraken]

maybe just being tankier tbh, a fat hp notable could be goo

[tranquil umbra]

early mirage uniques are so goated

[karmic gust]

like some random ass game from some random ass dude never heard of either of those things

[cobalt blade]

same got recommended that a couple days ago

fuk u discord i clicked the msg below that

[bleak quiver]

ive not even touched a mirage

just zooming

[karmic gust]

and other half of my recommednations are kitchen nightmares so

[bleak quiver]

my youtube recomended is a constant cycle of, game ive not watched in a while, into poo2, then i start saying i dont waant to see poo2, and it just recomends another game i dont even remember existed

[tranquil umbra]

damn

[tranquil umbra]

I just check if they have a good reward or not

(good being uniques)

[cobalt blade]

:3

[full kraken]

hm much do 24% reduced timeclasps cost

I only need one

[tranquil umbra]

in the actual league mirage gave me a tabula in mud flats

shit was actually cathartic

[full kraken]

cheaper than I expect tbh

whats the odds of hitting it yourself

its a range of -20 to 20, so 1 in 41 chance of hitting -20

[tranquil umbra]

then you have to hit the big multi

which we don't know if it's weighted or not

[bleak quiver]

19 also hits 24

[full kraken]

though it rounds up so we only need to hit 23.5 or higher

[tranquil umbra]

the rounding up is so crazy

[bleak quiver]

does it? i was pretty sure it just always went up

[cobalt blade]

it only rounds on .5's

[tranquil umbra]

well it just rounds normally unlike affixes which always round down

[cobalt blade]

.49 roudns down .5 rounds up

[kindred silo]

it also rerolls the item iirc

[bleak quiver]

k, then it wont round

[cobalt blade]

ye the -20-+20 is the divine

[tranquil umbra]

yeah that part is included in the math

[bleak quiver]

1.18x to 1.22x gets 24%

[full kraken]

I know

[full kraken]

it doesnt, -19 x 1.22 = -23.18

thanks gippity

[full fossil]

are there any like omega tanky bv builds ?

was gonna do chieftain bv but only one i know is diamond belt version

[cobalt blade]

isnt it a 1/738? where did it get 51 base rolls

[opaque sphinx]

can u chance replica dragonfang

[cobalt blade]

yes

[opaque sphinx]

[full fossil]

you can divine it yes, but it also changes the +3 to # gem

[opaque sphinx]

yeah i didnt ask about divine i appreciate you though

[bleak quiver]

yeah, we concluded that bellow that message

[full fossil]

ah my bad misunderstood your question

thought you did a typo

my bad

[opaque sphinx]

u good lol im just giving u shit

[full fossil]

i dont want shit, its stinky

smh

[opaque sphinx]

anyone got a bunch of div they wanna throw at something stupid

[dusky flame]

damn not only on global eh?

[opaque sphinx]

ppl here often try to throw divs at my stupid projects and i usually say no

does herald dmg count as spell dmg to mobs or no

ie can HoT be suppressed

[pulsar ice]

damn I got 4 sacred ords dropped yesterday and I'm not even doing an expensive breach

at this rate mirror is so achievable

[opaque sphinx]

we can buy stupid stuff

[cobalt blade]

remember to imprint if your chancing

[opaque sphinx]

now we just need to chance it to a replica dfang and then divine it till its either 8% or 10% Res eff and HoT

[cobalt blade]

the real gamba is to lock volatile it to +4 hot and good reservation

[opaque sphinx]

if that actually worked i would

[cobalt blade]

it does

[opaque sphinx]

yeah but u gotta volatile it as a dif gem cuz it divines it

before it vaals

[cobalt blade]

ye

its why i said lock volatile

[opaque sphinx]

oh fair

smort

prob won't go that far tho unless i get crowdfunding

sebk i am not

[pulsar ice]

I can donate 50 chaos

[full kraken]

lol
lmao
rofl

I cant even fuckin control this shit now, its gonna take getting used to

[cobalt blade]

automation disabled

[full kraken]

yeah I think I dont need it anymore tbh

which now makes me think maybe I can try chasing the legendary 15% inc phys -3 sockets enchant on my axe

[cosmic reef]

how much aps is that

[full kraken]

almost 10

Im at 0.12 cast time I think

it varies depending on if I have various buffs up

hw many divs would it cost to chase 15% inc phys

1 in 181 lol

so like... 600 div

[cosmic reef]

ive been working on figuring out the best movement combo to put in cwdt

cause on my loopers I can switch to backbar and then be zooming, and then switch to frontbar for the normal damage 6 link when I dont want to zoom around

[tranquil sedge]

where'd you get that number

[chrome copper]

hello chat

[cobalt blade]

[full kraken]

poedb

[tranquil sedge]

hello again 😄

[full kraken]

Im assuming equal weight but thats probably not even the case

[tranquil sedge]

i c

[full kraken]

since the "vanilla" enchants seem to show up like 4x as often as the fancier ones

so its prolly something more insane like 1 in 300 lol

Ill save up to buy... 100 tempering orbs and then attempt it

then Ill truly have the #1 top phys base damage one hand melee weapon in the league

[cobalt blade]

far from equal weights

[full kraken]

Ill do mirror service for free btw, though I doubt anyone wants this thing

but if anyone ever does I wont fee it

it is technically the #1 spellblade weapon and I think dual strike ambidexterity weapon in the game atm

at least in mirage

I dont even have it top 100% perfect divined, its only like 97% divined

[thick goblet]

can you send a screenshot, i never saw it finished

[native abyss]

bannerman??

[full kraken]

I could technically attempt another ~200 div to roll the suffixes even better but they're only short by uhhh

[cobalt blade]

isnt it less flat than rebuke for the "technically #1 spell blade weapon" part lol (and def worse than eblade) but ofc works with phys as extra

[chrome copper]

[full kraken]

right now I can hit 59% crit multi, perfect scenario with veiled exalt and bench instead is... 68%

[full kraken]

eyah thats why I said phys

oh wait I didnt what

[cobalt blade]

lol

[full kraken]

I swore I typed phys somewhere

anyways yeah its #1 phys

[cobalt blade]

you did a bit further up but they were kinda disconnected sentences

phys yea definitely up there

top 5 for sure if its not top 1

[full kraken]

yeah if I unveiled crit multi and then benched it, itd be 68%, as opposed to what I have atm which is only 59% tops

or, if I slammed T1 crit multi and then benched crit multi 2, itd be... also 68 actually

even if I slam T2 crit multi it beats elder crit multi

so I an still theoretically improve it, but itll cost a few hundred div

but its risk free I just keep rerolling suffixes

cant brick it now

[cobalt blade]

the humble missclick hatred essence

[full kraken]

its like 1 in 74 chance per reroll we hit elder suffix?

and same odds to hit T1 crit multi

what Id love to do is actually unveil crit multi, then I can save up for locks 1 at a time and test out both exalt and foulborn exalt til I hit T1 crit multi

1 in 138 chance and 1 in 107 chance so thats

average of 60 locks

[nova minnow]

https://pobb.in/lnx6MEQqZjLZ

i changeeeed my build abit

[pulsar ice]

it's recomb time

[native abyss]

[pulsar ice]

12 out of 21 and 4 valid donors recovered, pretty lucky today

[full kraken]

lol wait how much dps can I make my cyclone itself do just as a plain ole 7L

[nova minnow]

Depends on ur source of flat no?

[cobalt blade]

https://pobb.in/rR6AfdeFs7T- some point shuffling around if you want an extra large lol

[full kraken]

lol, lmao even

[pulsar ice]

pretty bad

[full kraken]

Im a spell build

thats my cyclone dps literally incidental to the fact I have a gigachad axe and Im specced into impale and phys nodes

cyclone of tumult even better but I wouldnt use it cuz its too slow

[nova minnow]

still pretty bad u have 100% crit w 416% multi

So the flat is bad

[full kraken]

thats without marylenes equipped too

[nova minnow]

coc right?

heh coc

[pulsar ice]

what's yor bets?

[cobalt blade]

7 hits

[nova minnow]

Dpepends what u slamming for

[full kraken]

normally Im just using cyclone for infused channeling defense buff and CoC vulnerability yeah

[nova minnow]

If global crit multi

my guess is 3

[pulsar ice]

life reservation efficiency

[tranquil sedge]

wat u fracturing

[full kraken]

but with whispering coil I dont need vulnerability anymore and could just slap n 7 actual dps support gems for funsies

[nova minnow]

Hmm, 5

[tranquil sedge]

and more importantly where you standing

when using the orbs

[nova minnow]

true

[cobalt blade]

are you running the orbs on new players to steal rng

[tranquil sedge]

^

[pulsar ice]

oh yeah that matters, rn I'm near my stash in ho

[nova minnow]

Slam w hillock attacking you

[forest flower]

do it in lioneye's watch in act 1

[tranquil sedge]

go stand in act 1 near nessa run in a circle 3 times clockwise

then fracture

you'll hit 6

[forest flower]

steal all the beginner's luck from the new players

[cosmic reef]

type johnathan > chris in global 1 before slam

[tranquil sedge]

thats a guaranteed mute slam i reckon

[nova minnow]

Deserves a ban from #1┃general and promotion to mod in #2┃general as well

[pulsar ice]

I made an unbannable compromise message

damn, 5 hits

nice

[tranquil sedge]

act 1 works everytime

[tranquil sedge]

^ so i was closest?

[cobalt blade]

would've been 7 if you full commited 🥀

[tranquil sedge]

wat do i win as a prize

[nova minnow]

i called it

i literally said 5

[tranquil sedge]

oh

selective inability to read

[nova minnow]

winner winner

[tranquil sedge]

not my fault

[nova minnow]

[nova minnow]

He spelled Fashion wrong. Ban him

[pulsar ice]

maybe that's what got me the luck, dumb subsidy

[tranquil sedge]

if this finishes selling i'll prob end at around 110d in just fossil+resonator from reaching 1k depth

plus whatever i got from selling a few rings and minion items and stuff on the way

[nova minnow]

is that good? cant tell

[tranquil sedge]

it aint bad

and he's ssf, so its prob useful

[short prairie]

i alr have one

[nova minnow]

i wonder if i should use pure talent

[rancid sluice]

as a player of ranged spells 99% of the time i dont know if msoz is in my future. just leveling my rauder is maddening. imagine having to care about prox bubbles and mana siphoners

[short prairie]

this is for alva

[crisp obsidian]

Very

[nova minnow]

as a int stacking scion

[cobalt blade]

temple time

[short prairie]

you guessed it

xd

[cobalt blade]

eh its bad

[nova minnow]

[cobalt blade]

you can get more int from a good rare + es

[nova minnow]

But i can get that 5% ele pen

ontop of it

lmao, I'll just PoB it

[full kraken]

lol it actually works this is dumb

[cobalt blade]

would personally value the es more (especially since your spending a point for said pen)

That point+jewel socket can have higher value

albiet i will admit making a crit multi es double int jewel is alot more painful than pure talent lol

[full kraken]

now poe ninja is gonna show me as having actual dps

[nova minnow]

ew dps

we dont need that

[nova minnow]

well, currently i have emperor wit in its place

i should check a rare too

[cobalt blade]

did you check the changes i sent for your tree to get an extra large in

also +1 jewel socket cos of that

(or 2 if you lvl up to get an extra socket)

[nova minnow]

oh lemme see

[cobalt blade]

^

[nova minnow]

extra large would b crazy

[tranquil sedge]

if u play msoz u care about nothing

just go and hit enemies

[nova minnow]

dayum

[rancid sluice]

yeah i gotta get there its a skill issue i havent played melee since bruce lee died i swear

[nova minnow]

u shot the impossible escape stuff ded

[cobalt blade]

escapes still there?

[nova minnow]

oh wait u took off the es

pobb blue on blue isnt the best

[cobalt blade]

it was dropping the +1 max lightning res point and the +20 int point next to frenzy/pcharge