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ig you just stack rage with bers yeah
i wanted ot play deadeye but couldnt do acts again
it's my old bow
yoooo
that reminds me i think im gonna leaguestart bama next league
BRO I CANNOT GET ALL BLUE SOCKETS
bruh its 3 blue sockets
whats about frostblink tho
you're playing a bow build just use blink arrow
i cant even get blue 3 blue socket
another advice u might want to go dex/int gear for hel and gloves boots
you can just use the crafting bench and spend 125 chroms
im down to 34 chromes i spent all my 3k gold on chromes
i think im gonna go to bed too
tomorrow im gonna try and push a few more levels on the hroc necro
i aint giving away
no im just wondering
dunno its so cheap
dont bother checking
tbh left side currency isnt worth picking up
left of the stash tab
Does any build use this? I accidentally hit it while trying to craft a mana stacker ring. None like it on trade.
YES
the dex isnt that useful, but the rest is good for eblade
my other biuld uses it
Archmage spark is looking for dex, mana, ele res so this doesn't work for me. I feel like I should sell it and restart, but I have no idea what to list it for.
Its all t1 so probably 100+d at least.
oh so your not giving it away
No, sorry haha
Any Reddit mods here? I keep getting automodded from posting crafting showcase

I have steps and background story idk what’s going on
around 100-200 sounds about right
dex just isnt that required for builds that want that ring
Even if I go to fluff and memes i still get automodded 
Yeah thats fair =/ it is a bit goofy lol
Reddit is cooked
Thank you!
list it at like, 250 and lower it every so often
maybe someone made a brew that really likes dex
Fingers crossed haha
Wait isnt there a way roll dex to a different stat now?
I wonder if someone needs this plus a different attribute
Oh yeah it was just a reforge attribute that was added?
yeah, its swap ele dmg, and reforge for minion, attribute and drop
Someone may buy just to hit with a veiled exalt or something even lol who knows.
Def cant just keep rolling it for my needs, it has too much good stuff on it
wtf, unique dupe works on trialmaster, i guess its not considered boss loot?
Thats sick lol
why does bladefall of trarthus not cost anything with blood magic
the cost is based on 5% mana, then converted to life
okay wait so say i try to roll the 6 link and i use a auto clicker is it possible to roll over the 6 link and miss it
No, but also auto clickers are against TOS
yeah i cant even use it
You can bind click to your mouse wheel and roll that to get a bunch of click, though.
you cant roll over 6ls specifically
and yeah, dont use that, against tos, and you will probably get kicked for too many actions
U can use the click and hold fuse shortcut
Its not as fast as the uh totally hypothetical clicker macros
just bind scroll wheel to left click
But it doesnt break tos and it doesnt require fiddling to stop u from being kicked
Scroll wheel is genuinely slower than the click and hold unless u have a free wheel and if u have a free wheel u can get kicked
what the hell is the hold and click
I cant remember the shortcut
its how you are supposed to use fusings
Its like ctrl hold fusing or some shit
oh
The shortcut is in the tooltip
no it fucking isn't
its hold ctrl and left click on the item
I like cookies 🍪
and it isnt in the tooltip
Im sure it is in the tooltip but unfortunately on mobile
your name is quite something
Mr WTD
Yall just dont appreciate fine art
finished taking duelist through campaign... honestly took less time then expected
8 hrs not bad but its not fresh gear right?
tbf this was with a twink
dawg theres 8 of us now!
ah
i fuck with sex n twister time
nonetheless its good time
My next upgrade is 100 div for +10 max life looks like lol
if its all passive and labs up to uber yeah solid
yeah this is only my second playthrough of the campaign if i did it in that little time with fresh gear that would be truely insane
Youll get there 🙂
I have about a avg of 8 hrs fresh rn for campaigns but ive played ... since beta
i mean i didnt do labs yet and wdym by uber
Im on the slower end
you can honestly take this build up to like tier 10 maps
The labs for the ascendencys ?
yeah i need to level him up some more anyway. (level 85ish for my build
norm Cruel merc
yeah i left it for after campaign
hmm id think youd go faster with the power from it but maybe not
did you unlock all your scarab slots yet?
oh im not sure if ill be able to survive but maybe
if the atlas from my last character carries over then yes
assuming you're using Volcanic Fissure of Snaking, you kinda kill everything before they can kill you
fantastic
last scarab slot can be empty anyways
you can do the strat in t1 and watch your level go up like a nuclear missile
i might run normal t16s not fighting just rush boss (and look for black barya) it gives quite a bit of xp and i do need some more div to get my full build
o you didnt have seven league step that def helps a bit for speed
ill try this
well run t16s when you reach 85 then
hollow palm ain't making it to t16 without more investment lol
volcanic fissure... of snaking... ive been using the wrong skill
you've been using what, regular volcanic fissure?
also there is a xp penalty
volcanic fissure
ah
its still ok but volcanic of fissure is insane clear
also it can be expensive
i would recommend against breach until you get volcanic fissure of snaking
oh i got it im not that broke
oh wait i need to get to 80 not 85
https://pobb.in/3LDpM9FvoJXg what should i work toward the passive tree?
Theres no reason to do t16s at 66
more dex i guess
you can get that elemental damage with attack skills wheel
the one bellow flash freeze?
funny
that could be your password
no special characters
wdym🖱️ is clearly on the last row
yep
sorry i did it wrong its "duPO3KrCy🖱️ csW" thank you for correcting me
question, do mines counts as hits? because in PoB, my exsanguinate mines gain 700k dps with the elemental mastery "Hits have 15% chance to treat enemy monster elemental resistance values as inverted" but in game, none of my "used when you hit a rare or unique enemy, if not already in effect" flasks are working unless I use a separate skill like frostblink or whirling blades...
which one of the 4 t1 maps are best?
owo
Hits by mines and traps are not hits by you for purposes of flask and some other interactions. Since they explicitly say when YOU hit a rate or unique.
Give diamond belt 
I reckon the elemental resist invert works coz it doesnt specifically say by you? Poe language sometimes be a bit finnicky
I need diamond belt
Wait
I just pob tested faster attacks instead of multistrike on my 12 links
With optimal gem set up, faster attacks have less damage
Even with greater multistrike
thats a big upgrade i shoulda done this sooner

still could get another ~20% crit multi if it rolled even higher
we broke above 50mil dps now though!
What build u doing again btw
twisters :3
With diamond belt setup I can prob get 40% more damage
Transfig tornado?
twister from the bestiary bosses, avian helmet
the helmet one
hm time it takes to get a dreamfather on a "normal speed" character?
normal dreamfeather or replica?
They are pretty common in heist 
replica
replica dreamfeather is pretty common
ty
have like 5 in ssf rn and have done maybe like ~100 wings
Got a pob? Sounds interesting might try it
i have no idea what that could be lol
wtf
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/mirage/character/Versacexd-2226/JustGambleDamnation?i=0&search=items%3DReplica%2BDreamfeather%26sort%3Ddps just poeninja thinks
Thingsd also wow
Someone really wanted the plate
or max volatile
Another league it says
idk if that's worth a mirror but ok
oh yeah, you cant get them to standard anymore
how tf did they get influence and implicit mods while also volatiling
oh
it had 1k life before, +150 from enchant
standart
enchant
is it single or double influ
oh it's before they made it so you can't use tailorings on fixed socket items
during the time kaom had that stat line, probably to look cool
that was a thing still
the way you make it is chancing
you can still do it in league
ic
honestly i cant see a bound combo that would make that worth a mirror 
if it was elder id understand
right now leveling a character in maps and got a 50%xp mirage with 3 breaches in it
maybe its astrolabe
i dont see why that would get ran on a standard life stacker
its a 1mirror item, they are clearly on a budget 
i mean even being on a budget legacy defiance is just so nuts
and not like expensive at all
i forget that merchant tabs transfer over
Anyone else play through GeForce? Haven't been able to get in the game all day
found it
its for 6 crusade +1 lightning gems on agos
which isnt that good?
that isnt 6 crus
they are swapping gear
its just 2x elder for 15% life
I just realized I havent been including my culling dps
man running thru acts with 70% ms feels slow, am i spoiled?
i think i'd rather cut my own balls off
actually nah, the astrolabe users are all garbage, its just this necro and 2 templars with 6shaper for dissipation
nah it just feels slow
fr
did you ask em? it looks like their chars just dissassembled lol
7 leagues, reverse chill arkhon belt, and QS
and i still feel not fast enough
9 levels to mb 
looked at snapshots on profile
they had recent updates
also i found the one time cracklance is good
when ur in acts and using twink gear 
but i think the easiest way to see what its for is to wait fo the next snapshot and see the chest
you cant see snapshots for standard tho
cuz now im curious
90 move speed and using movement skills is fast enough 😉
its not 
poe2 must feel like a slog to you if you play it
Go too fast and you cant even control your character
its at like the 500-600% range i reeach that personally
In campaign I find like 120 feels too much in the indoor areas
Wide spaces sure 300 -500 is fine
who needs ms when you can lightning warp
no onslaugh helmet, tsc tsc, noob
accel belt+overcorrupted seven leagues+gull+other sources of ms
cant use that with arkhon belt
less u wanna get 1 tapped by literally anything
since u scorch urself
arrogance purity 
ignore that it also makes you 1 tap its fine
if i could i genuinely would
arrogance discipline to get more hp 
actually
total dps change from 27mil to almost 60mil so a bit more than doubled
and +2% movespeed as a nice cherry on top
what level arrogance do u need before a 50% rme aura
the true upgrade
22 minimum iirc
welp
i mean like
if you wanna be able to use a 50% reservation aura with arrogance
you need lvl 22 arrogance
so its 199% reservation multi
yer can't do that then
was genuinely gonna arrogance haste since im using ghostwrithe

u got one i can borrow for 10 mins till i can use MB?
no, only the other 2
smh ur uninvited from my birthday party

gah dam dude
strong stream
why is this split
? they just spilt it using beast to safely separate a mod
or this might be the fats
didn't sirgog do a vid on that early league
even now not that bad of an idea to split ilvl 86 cord belts to sell
they coulda bought one too un split and split it to have 3 different bases to craft on
didnt know split created 2 more
yeah if you beast split with black morrigan
it makes 3 splits instead of 2
only caveat is it needs 6 mods since each split takes 2
so like cant do it to the experimented jewelry with sub 6 mods
i feel like ive been reforging life on these gloves for days now
almost 60k purp juice down the drain
oh its cause ssf
so the cord is shit to farm
so probably just splitted to have 3 bases in case he fucked one or somenthing
yeah probably
@full kraken u got a pob to share im curious 
or maybe they have multiple characters they wanted to use them and didnt want to bother farming more than one since they are kinda a pain
only drop in mirage from blight and are a rarer one to get
Can you recombinator split items ?
So you can split and unsplit them
🔬
very cool
because the bases are rare and expensive
when you split, you get more bases
means more money
LETS GOOO only 95k purp juice to get here
I got kinda lucky on my gloves i guess
not gonna sell for that, but lowest left in trade
i got super lucky on the fracture so its payback ig
whats those gloves for
vfos
infernal blow shenanigans or something?
@sleek barn thanks again for the help got from level 66 to level 80 in just under an hour
I veiled 10 pairs of gloves with phys convert to element and harvest forged them all to fire and then fractered and hit 5/10
bv minion pact chieftain

?
https://pobb.in/LR2f4Fmz6FSq we're getting there. need new jewels to res cap, prolly grab some imbued to cut down on gems
need new hat couple worthless rolls
do I reject my human rights and farm it that fled until I get 8 eyes of terror in ssf
well it's either that or endless tree gamba
or do I send that shit full-force with harvest every card
can someone please help me beat this tier 14 map?
what exactly is the problem with it
nice bonus for getting last body part from fortress
its the unique boss i get one shotted and do no damage
what mods do you have on that map
is that the souleater map?
ig: Satiating_Pineapple , I'm pretty sure I can handle any mods
I also a bunch of defensive auras
on discord?
in game
and we done lets go
invited]
40% unnerve 
man I failed msoz again 
And we let’s go done
gotcha
gonna go for iginite pbrand
how hard or difficult is simmulacrums?
and hm dps would i need to have for them
early waves are cake, if they roll resistance against you obv harder, the lads tend to to be quite easy. more shit you can cover with immunity etc the better
each wave rolls different mods so builds that are well rounded fair better
ignite
ignite
or rather that burning ground, probably the latter
burning ground probably
you guys really like repeating my messages lol 
abberath pantheon does work till you can solve it another way
if image is paper, then its paper
@bright dust
What are some fun builds that use MB?
50% of fun build use MB, other 50% is accel belt, because movement speed is king
vast majority use it unless your on screams. some hh still i guess
I see so what are yall running?
mb is just basic go fast solve build issues like depending on the flask and rolls it can do a lot
Bro 😭 forget the MB I just want a fun build to run
im asking for suggestions 🙏 not what a MB does
pathfinder mageblood
that's not a build 
💀
Aura stacking spark guardian
cant you just look up whatever the fuck fubgun is doing if ur on SC
'whats fun' is an equally stupid question as it depends on the person
Spark wihtout accel belt, boo
Oh wait you're right
Issok reading is hard
Whats yr budget is a more.important question
Spark is fun, true
I have a MB and like maybe 20 divs
Okay so aura stacking guardian spark is out
You're about
1mirror short to start the build
almost any build can use a mageblood unless the belt you need very specfic to the build
ye, just do a trickster's trademark
running 3 res flasks
yo... i think we've addressed this
just look at the local fubgooner's pob for a build in softcore tbh
Tbh... 20div for the rest of the build on top of a mageblood is such an imbalance
Lmao
eh thats what i usually do
i got a svalinn before mageblood lol
we call it the osrs rebuild
Okay but thats you coz you op
nah just an osrs player
I dunno theres some real meme shit you can lean on where MB carries the build and all the rest of the gear has zero demand so its like, a buncha 1c rares
original summon raging spirits
but you can always push builds farther
meta in that game is when u reach enough money for a new upgrade, u sell ur bank and buy the item
then start from scratch with just that item
Im still waiting for your twister pob 😠
"tbow rebuild" is common phrase
bro doesnt want to hear what mb can do bro dont you get it bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TBU1BPbB8
just go here
Streaming daily:
https://www.twitch.tv/fubgun
Budget Version : https://pobb.in/XscKzc4cqob3
Mirror Gear No Original Sin : https://pobb.in/b78LeqVesn7L
Original sin setup(My character): https://pobb.in/x80lC4NQXR0f
Timestamps:
00:00 Build showcase
01:01 Hey Guuuys
02:40 Minion Pact
05:07 My Gear
08:57 My Gems Setup
10:47 Passive Skill & Je...
see BV
yeet vid out window
why is akali there
fubgun taxed 
LOL
i wanna know what the level of gamebreaking strong is to deserve a nerf midleague
cuz sometimes i feel like some skills should get the treatment
but ggg is very hesitant on that
pure bug abuse is the only real answer
I gotta fix the cluster jewels on it, one sec
the whole sheep playerbase folds like a wet noodle when they mid league nerf
i dont think that 'busted' falls under that in case of skills
timing is also important
well they nerfed that sanctum body armour in poe 2 mid league
if ur going to nerf you better nerf fast and early
yeah thats fair
otherwise you can't
i feel like there should be a level of busted that should
but I assume that was more about the unqiue "vision" for poe 2 rather than it being particularly broken
they did nerf that immortal build when jungroan made a vid about it couple leagues ago or whatever
Wondering like how do you scale the skill effevt duration? Does skill effect duration affect the avian buff switching? Coz if so you wanna scale reduced to make it seitch faster for more tornado, bur scale more duration for tornado to last longer
yeah i remember the strength of blood build
but that was the one and only time i ever remember seeing midleague nerf besides twisters
which was for server stability reasons
idk what to say ¯_(ツ)_/¯
aside from so much content being centered around whats broken you ask for help or build ideas and its automatically 'just go bv' (in this case) wears me out. but every league theres always something
i still think minion pact should have been caught bywhoever designed it
coz literally the first question anyone could possibly should* have is 'what minion has the most life that i could abuse with this'
yer
but if it managed to somehow bypass all that in qa and reach prod
not fair to players to take it away
didnt break the game economy or anything and certainly wont live next league
i get it wasn't meant to be used with like BV but bruh they should know about that shit from connor's battery staff snapshot build
and even without BV the numbers on it are silly af like mfker what u guys know how much hp minions get
any phys spell even if bv wasnt there
i feel like the intention was either giga slow big hits or smaller faster hits, either from some big minion sacrifice on a onehitting skill or repeated sacrifices like dark marionettes or zombies or spectres or smth with some faster skill
but clearly
bv go brr instead
yeah and i can get behind that if they cut the number in like half
and nerf the a9 spectre
and the bv interaction
honestly thats a lot of work just delete the gem nobody asked for it anyway
yeah you basically are forced to put Efficacy support as a -1 support gem on your helm for your twisters to function, unfortunately.
you need to ht global 95% reduced duration, and 52% CDR, to hit 15 procs/sec
(maybe people did but im biased and minions can burn in hell so my opinion matters more)
😄
I was planning for it to take me all night tonight to make, I proceeded to just slam 3/3 prefixes second try in the first 20 min, and then slammed the suffixes in like another 20 min
pixxelkick
right lol
total cost was about 250 div to make it, most of which was the suffixes cuz I saved time preflocking bench craft instead of sacrificing 1000 bears
its a digusting axe
almost 800 pdps and there's no attack speed on it lmao
about 60 div to do prefixes, then about 120 for suffixes preflocking, and then another 70div divining it
diamond shrine goes brrrrrrrr
what the fuck
Hmmmm yeah. I wonder if it can do smth on inqui with accel belt instead
I might try out accel belt for mapping, or HH might actually be better
Aight is it time for my ele hit angle
genuinely think that's the most dead i have ever seen the claw market in like 4 yrs
if I swap out brutality support, grab rampage gloves instead of impale gloves, and then slap on HH, I prolly will still crush maps no problem
but then I'll have a morbillion movespeed
fuckin ele hit uses shaper claw cuz they gotta be unique jerks
how fast is HH speed boost now
someone tell fub to go make a LS arcing video
That said my first self cook molten strike slayer build to maps would have loved that claw
"ohmygod skill still good!"
40% I believe

Yea lightning strike would use it too, any trinity based
yer
Together with yoke.. oh the nostalgia
spec throw
i was selling claws most of the league but i think every single mfker who use one bought one alrdy
Im hoping to make one
pretty sure he's the only knob in existence still playing twister after the nerf
Morning ☕
which i respect the dedication
its pretty much your classic autobomber but also it can phase skip uber bosses lol
i c
yeah but then hh would be fun
but FRICTION
and WEIGHT
and the ABSENCE OF LIGHT AND MEANING
Delete it and i use HH again.
bro someone needs to buy some my shit so i can buy a meme utmost to put on my lvl 50 char
did they just added that dogshit buff?
no
sorry mate its so over
except poeguy, dude still trucking
i like his d4 comment,
You hate d4, you will still hate it after this update 😂
MY BOI I AM RICH
I guess I can just like, take my belt off and test how my build performs with zero belt equipped lol
yeah its wild, almost like ground loot dropping so much more common and everyone being rich af made them stop playing earlier than normal 
sucky bois telling me no your strategy need good build to run ultimatum
i love it when vruuns death noise gets interrupted by some other sound so mf just grunts and dies
i was tempted, but was like.
Why spend money on something i will play for 2-3 days 😂
And still hate it.
I mean, isnt that just the noise of a man who has fallen over, after hitting his lil toe 😂
streamers need to create content. there isn't anything mysterious about it
D4 is actually pretty good, if you get it for free and only have 2 days to play and also don't really want to think too much and also don't want to trade and have atcleast 3 friends
convincing 3 friends to play that game is harder than winning the lottery without buying a ticket
I will just play RF, if i dont want to think 😂
d4 would be fun to pirate on a phone but instead we got diablo immoral on the phone
convincing 3 friends to play any game is usually kinda difficult tbh.
cant wait for poe mobile
he doesnt know
i doubt any mobile can handle the t16.5 juice on mobile
the start of league is the fun part. that's just normal league play
no not literally poe1 on mobile
make a cool puzzle build
theyre working on an actual game
Time for that Minecraft for a full year 
i'm sitting on about 100d and a couple of alts in the 60-75 range and i cbf. i'm just done for the league. and that's fine.
its got isla lore
Better finish poe2 first 😂
Taking a month free sounds good 
press X to doubt, chief
even if you take a league or two off
you'll be back
999 times out of 1000
You come back to this game eventually
pick some skill or some build at random and see if u can make it kill ubers
I was supposed to take this league off for poe 2, 0.5 and recharge batteries.
But somehow, the Mirage livestream got me 😂
Twisters 

oh shit, I would need specifically a shaper influenced rampage gloves lol
some leagues i def log in less, but vast majority im still playing up until the last week
@tranquil sedge r u selling dense fossils for 20c
I give it 2 months if it’s a good league
i listed like 100 @ 25c
Good league for me, is like that.
500+ hours
im the kind of person to undercut but i dont have any listings up 😄
have played 4 full leagues so far. at 2.4k hours now XD
New endgame rework makes this one of my most played leagues since maybe legion
Deff
No longer have to favorite one map
I did, tho the new atlas made it feel a little like my first league.
i guess but i just bought maps anyway
Or rather 11 of the same map and then the connecting map
lowkey nightmare maps is a really good fix
I did not like og conquerors expansion
what did nightmare maps fix
No need to farm t17s I guess
Which I guess you can still do with nightmare maps if you want
that poeple used them to farm juiced league mechanics
nightmare maps should have been the t17 in the first place, it should have never been the premium farming map back then jonathan in his feelings about that dogshit content
i mean yeah that was kinda the point of a higher tier of map
same reason t16 drops more than t15
It was broken in its inception but got better afterward
okay so, took off my diamond shrine scream belt, on my crit build, and I still one tap everything 
nobody's farming content in them now
so the build will still function, so I'm gonna save up for an accel belt now for mapping
Im kinda worried that mirage is kinda carrying the game rn - like scarb farming without miraged boxes is dire, ilvl84 clusters without fogs would be dire
sounds like they are broken not fixed
Gonna need some balance changes when it don't go core
only if you dont consider that this was their goal
Is there a way to filter out non XVI maps on the trade site?
Kind of reframing builds around their content because they were that profitable but also some of the deadliest maps in the game
it achieved the goal
if people use the same consumables to complete the natural progression and to farm juiced content it creates an unhealthy dynamic where people just sell those consumables and skip steps
thats such a weird goal
'not' filter on the right with shaper guardian mods
its what people asked for
so they gave it
people didn't like 'being forced' to run t17s
cord belt not going core will be a heavy kick on the balls for me that belt is so goated in ssf
bruh
why on earth would that not go core
its a new basetype for blight brother that shit is going core no doubt
so we're just not allowed to have new content that's harder and more rewarding cuz all the scrands who can't farm it will be mad
coz you can only get it in mirage 
i didnt say i agree with the premise
i see 🤔
well
if mirage doesnt go core
yeah im not directing it at you specifically
i can see that being added to blight ravaged
hell nah
We’re allowed new content
but yea im hoping mirage goes core or at least the stuff it added
It just takes 3 leagues to test stuff out before inevitably retuning them or outright removing them from the game
@tranquil sedge I'm not sure I understand
harvest bench actually feels a little more fleshed out now
cord belt is too rare already and farming blight ravage is 
but not if its harder and has more reward to go with the difficulty
reforge minion and drop and mana and attribute is nice
No necropolis graveyard because they forgot how op it would be
take it from here as you like
higher difficulty ceiling IS needed
i agree with that without any reservation at all
but they seem content to have lowered it this league
so lets see what 3.29 brings ig
i mean 4 fractured crafting and kinda deterministic is ridiculous
yeah but if its more difficult and doesn't drop more loot, why do it?
and if its more difficult but does drop more loot, the average player is mad cuz they can't do it
so how do we actually get it?
@tranquil sedge thank you
yeah but that buffs it baseline for everyone, not ppl doing the harder content
you can have both
You can profit from lower content and not just harder content
this time yes we didnt get harder content
next time i hope we get harder content
the loot rebalance is still good
Need to reward the casuals a little bit
so the sword i made is 4 mirrors?
well
its not like the casuals didnt have rewards before
its just they got spoonfed even harder this league now
give me sword bob will be happy
yeah i get that, im just genuinely asking what the solution is to the loot/difficulty issue
but sure whatever it takes to shut them up
what is the name of an unique wand with white feathery head? 😭
what do you mean
cuz i don't see one where one party isn't upset
dude
Does anyone remember the first ExileCon when there was a delay so Einhar's actor has to improvise with very bad jokes
the casuals do not matter
You want the one where the majority of players feel placated
its not some difficult thing where the solution is unknown
this is what im referring to
If not, then that sounds like a bad game responding negatively to feedback
ill give you this
casuals have an obscene amount of content already
yessss
you do not need to cater to them further
yes but if you add harder content that doesnt have better loot, nobody do it
and if it does have better loot then ppl mad that they feel "forced" to do it

most casuals in this game haven't explored even a quarter of it
that's fine
let people feel forced
they did last league too
boo hoo they only make 20d/hr instead of 30d/hr
nobody was forced to do t17s
yea but reddit whinges hard enough
Come on next league: Abyss Scarab of Endless Nightmares
Abysses shit out feared bosses
t17 was never correct in th e first place
anyone know how to put Medium Cluster Jewel to passive tree?, i cant put on there
@tranquil sedge @split maple did you see that 12link recomb earlier
outermost jewel sockets only
allocate the socket first
then put it in
i genuinely think they were fine
doesn't matter man that's not what they were meant for
i liked them too
still doesn't matter
ya i know but i cant equip it
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i thought they were meant to be a higher tier of map, ie the "uber mapping experience"
I mean, another thing you can do with nightmare maps that you couldn’t with t17s is play any build
no
u could play t17s with any build
this is just fucking wrong
rolling the map was always an option
you could play it with any build if you rolled the map
same as every single other tier of map
do you have your updated pob
some builds are better than others and that is true in t16 too
not all builds can run all mods, also true in t16 too
also did u decide to go str stack or nah
^^^^
again, doesnt change what i said earlier tho
nightmare maps weren't meant to be that in the first place
but people did bitch about it to no end
and it was almost all the time just a skill issue
thats on me then, i did assume thats what they were for
we got uber bosses so i figured they were meant to be "uber maps"
made for the best mapper builds to farm
they were supposed to be a gateway to them not outshadow em entirely
also meant more to farm frags than anything else
thats why the monsters hp got nerfed, mods got toned down, reward value of mods got diluted
yeah i think linking the frags to them was the main issue
I think that was what they were intending
took them only like 5 leagues to manage to do it

cuz then u made bossers also need to be mappers
Remember when they decided to add archnemesis 
one thing in your favor tho
i swear uber frags shoulda just dropped from their non uber versions its such an easy fix
the people bitching about it were not only walking skill issues
they were also utter morons
t17s might have been the best div/hr in the game but that didnt make t16.5 or t16 worthless
you could still reach good div/hr doing those too
exactly
but everyone loved conveniently ignoring that
sinistral and dextral were also a goated addition to the game
i had a multimirror build and made more money farming t16s than t17s last league
this literally cuts all rewards from your map my guy
unless you use them for t16.5 i guess
that is exactly what i am talking about
if you use them for nightmare rushing ur gutting ur rewards lol
why would you use them for anything other than nightmares? 😄
the only actual use is for t16.5
you roll the maps first
then you use them to increase the effect of the specific mods that give currency or whtaever
fragments scale with quant
they were good for getting ur first t17 completion done 
afaik a key use is juicing up packsize for harvest or something?
those are the main best uses
ya the same logic as the t16.5 thing
but you only run one of the two
my map blaster ass loved the ability to not need to completely rework my shit to get thru that stuff
and you roll maps carefully
what happens if you use both a sinistral and dextral btw
then ur running a scoured map lol
so, it still drops 2-3 fragments you aint gutting anything
you're wrong
if i swap to MB from HH i can get higher dps
you can still drop frags
high key kind of handy tech to exist for ppl running gimp builds league start and wanna get their clears and never touch nightmare maps ever again
but on average you will drop fewer frags
you aint gutting anything
this is what you are wrong about to be clear
i know you can drop 3 even on a scoured map, but you're more likely to drop them on not a scoured map
yeah lol i used to have a copypasted macro that told ppl how to do t17s lmao
"go shrines- all shrine stuff on tree, huck and niko"
"scarab stability, bisection, and more shrines"
"frog allflames"
there was some other shit but that was the gist
made it so easy lol
I just wish nightmare maps layouts werent so ass
Id spam nightmare maps all day long if their layouts werent garbage
only rly garbage one is citadel
others are fine tbh
zigg is great
abom is okay
like i said the map still drops fragments range between 2-3 per map, it makes rushing faster and nightmare is not even worth to run with mods it just slows you down with dogshit return
fortress is okay
i hate them all besides fortress
it is not 2-3 per map

it is 1-3 per map
I dont think its possible to run those layouts without a notable amount of backtracking
but thats cuz fort is all i ever farmed so idk the other layouts at all
is not even worth to run with mods it just slows you down with dogshit return
if your build is not good enough that's a you problem
it doesn't make your statement generally correct for everyone
like every nightmare map layout has a non trivial amount of backtracking built in
zigg doesn't
cuz its the uh, bridge problem
I’ve done each one at least once but fortress is my most played one
it definitely does cuz of the bridge problem
i think you can predict zigg boss location every time
after u reach the main outer loop
never saw a reason to farm any besides fort cuz of barrels, the others never had anything like it
making rushing faster aint about build problem why would i waste my time inside nightmare 
its incredible how you manage to miss the point
nah Im talking about actually running the map not just boss rush
i don't have patience for dumbness
we can just pretend you're right, when you're wrong, if that'll end it
bro how fucking low do i gotta drop these before some snipe bot frees me
like, actually doing my atlas strategy in the map which means I gotta run around it and do the stuff I specced into
i c
maybe itd be better to do nightmare maps specced into ultimatum 🤔
as long as ur not on citadel its ok tbh
but now the rewards got lowered
and none of them have open layouts
you know it's funny when you have to take every single reduce mana cost nodes
since there is only one ultimatum, you dont have to run all over the map, you just run around til you find it and then done
Only one I would do if nightmares weren’t ass layouts are stacked decks deli
arent u using lfetap
no
altho i dont mind that a couple of em have ass layouts
its always good to have some shitty layouts
if they're also rewarding
which they are now
what, div card?
cast on ward break makes citadel worth doing
must be hard to get lifetap in ssf
nah the exclusive gems
oh yeah exceptional gems
do you want to kill me
if i use lifetap i might as well be dead
right?

do i need to reiterate im playing reliquarian
Cast on death build

also yea what cinder said is right
its linear and tight, all of them
so stuff like decks prob works fine
why cant u get instant leech on reli
eagon has left one exceedingly long hair strand in my hideout
it undulates. why would he do that
oh wait is this like normal
do they always do that
have you actually played any flicker outside of the berserker class?
no one can sustain 1500 life leech
u dont instant leech per second
not even with that 5% instant leech
u instant leech per hit
plenty can
lifestack easily can
you can argue vaal pact
feels vaal pact 😄
im at 800 pure leech on glad flicker without any investment into it
if i spent a few passives i could cross 1-1.1k easily
sure if i dual claw then do i give up on the 12 links
if i was on slayer i could probably hit 1.5k without any trouble
glad also gets 20% insta leech
this is no vaal pact with investment of 1 leech cluster (also fixed all my mana issues with it)
senese its 385 on hit u need to cross over not per second
wat
read weapon master sir
why is scion so bright
but if u want life sustain swapping to a claw is the best way
divine cracker
i did flicker trickster with a splodey claw before and it was really comfy, lots sustain
actually might not even need to have more life on hit becuz its per cast and u hit 3 times on one cast
ok so you guys got rid of the 1500 life leech obsticle then what about your net recovery
it's taking 1400 life per second
I read that as divine stacker
so you net 100 leech
😄
sure here are the "other swords" you mentioned
nice
my claw summoner had almost similar amounts of on hit. Fucking unkillable. No boss in the game was capable of killing me as long as i could keep hitting 😄

flicker is shit skill
Its still the most fun in the entire game
Nothing comes even remotely close to it
flicker is fine but if u build for full dmg thats all u have
yeah but notably d2
this shit so wild even chris is playing d2
i'd try a es flicker but i would have to redo acts
occultist double claw flicker GO
i did it back when trickster first got changed
i seen a occult trickster in magefist
had a more upgraded version but thats the most recent pob i kept
that fucking reliquarian terminus est ascendancy is screaming at me to reroll scion flicker....
rip divine blessing
along with free lvl30 purity of elements
you can do flicker on templar
3.19 
divine blessing vertex was the BiS tech on trickster 
bro you can sustain charges with literally just multistrike now
you barely need an outside source anymore
it would enable all sorts of stupid shit, i aint afraid sustaining charges 😄
hnnnngh 56% all ele res and ele ailment immunity from a single ascendancy node sounds fun
meh
u still need to reserve the mana tho no?
oh nice
yeh thats still 25
fuck
if something has no reservation the wording is "has no reservation"
if 100% meant no mana reservation every single class in the game could do it lol
just stack a bunch of mre smalls
or at least like "reserves less"
Have u been introduced to the lord our god herald stacker
fucking weak ah ascendancy 😄
we called those people harolds
thats it these claws are going up 5d ea and im playing a game of league
if u wanna try a claw build its the perfect time
what flavor?
cardboard
pff
triple t1 eles with unveiled atkspeed and crafted crit
imagine next league reliquarian is literally all belt nodes
except there's no mageblood
you can definitely build a whole build around belts
i can imagine there being a ghetto 1 flask MB node
ok yeah that would work
1 flask mb is better than most ascendancy nodes
shit like access to those maven belt charges



